nocturne chasm May 25, 2021, 12:14 AM

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just got it. thanks

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so how do you add splits using states('sensor.dad_jokes')

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 12:18 AM

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same way

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{% set new_text = states('input_text.test').split("?") %}
{{ new_text[0] + " " + new_text[1] }}

nocturne chasm May 25, 2021, 12:21 AM

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noice

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ok, when you split it, it removes the ? is there a way to do it without removing the question mark

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 12:23 AM

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just add it back 🙂

nocturne chasm May 25, 2021, 12:23 AM

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damn...I ask, go try, figure it out and by the time I get back you have answered

low blaze May 25, 2021, 1:51 AM

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I feel like this is a stupid question, but how can I call the status of a binary sensor in a template ? using "states" is coming back unknown when I know it has a value of off

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not sure what my if statement should look like

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(works fine with non binary sensors, the way I have it)

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 1:52 AM

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the syntax is in the posts immediately above

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~share your template definition

silent barnBOT May 25, 2021, 1:52 AM

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Please use https://paste.ubuntu.com/ to share code or logs. Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view.

low blaze May 25, 2021, 1:53 AM

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{%- if states.binary_sensor.awake.state == on -%}

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 1:53 AM

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you need to quote the 'on'

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and please use states('binary_sensor.awake')

low blaze May 25, 2021, 1:54 AM

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{% set status1 = states('sensor.binary_sensor.awake') %}

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used that

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and then {{status1}} and I get "unknown"

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 1:54 AM

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well, that's wrong 🙂

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sensor.binary_sensor isn't a thing

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use what I gave you above

low blaze May 25, 2021, 1:55 AM

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I think I called my sensor "binary_sensor.awake"

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 1:55 AM

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you can't

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literally

low blaze May 25, 2021, 1:55 AM

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oh

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i see

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thx let me adjust

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thank you

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ugh driving me nuts 🙂 very much appreciated

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 1:56 AM

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the part to the left of the "." is the domain, and determines the type of the thing and what you can do with it. the part to the right is the "object_id", and is usually the name you provide or can specify

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and if you have two "."s, you're in trouble 🙂

low blaze May 25, 2021, 1:57 AM

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is this correct

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{%- if states('binary_sensor.awake') == 'on' -%}

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 1:58 AM

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you don't need all the "-"s, but it should be

low blaze May 25, 2021, 1:59 AM

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something's not correct

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 1:59 AM

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if you're just looking for the boolean value, you can leave off the "if"

low blaze May 25, 2021, 1:59 AM

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maybe I'm overcomplicating it

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 1:59 AM

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~share the whole thing

silent barnBOT May 25, 2021, 1:59 AM

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Please use https://paste.ubuntu.com/ to share code or logs. Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view.

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 2:00 AM

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if you only have an "if", you're missing the rest of it. but if you just want to use that expression as a boolean, you don't need the "if"

low blaze May 25, 2021, 2:00 AM

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(keep in mind my brain works best with visual confirmation on each step so I tend to echo stuff just so I know it's functional)

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Here's what I'm trying to do

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I have 2 sensors

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a value sensor tracking humidity and an awake (and a sleeping) sensor (binary)

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I want a 3rd sensor to tell me if my value is within range

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for example if it's daytime and humidity is between 2 values, then I am trying to set this "3rd" sensor to 'on'

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 2:02 AM

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you're describing an automation

low blaze May 25, 2021, 2:02 AM

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you wouldn't use a template sensor ?

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 2:03 AM

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you could, but I guess I'm taking the next step and thinking that you want to do something with the output of that 3rd sensor

low blaze May 25, 2021, 2:03 AM

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well I wanted to track that 3rd sensor with the history platform

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 2:03 AM

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ok

low blaze May 25, 2021, 2:03 AM

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I'm monitoring some temp and humidity sensors, and tracking if I am within safe range and how often

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I could use an automation and a "counter" but I figured that was sloppy and history would do a much better job

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If I use an automation (or node red generated automation) would it imply any type of delay vs a template sensor?

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 2:05 AM

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history_stats would probably work for that

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no

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this isn't a performance issue

low blaze May 25, 2021, 2:06 AM

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so if I wanted to use an automation to determine the 3rd sensor

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do I define it in my config.yaml and what platform would I use?

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wait

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 2:07 AM

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you can use a template binary_sensor for that

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as you had suggested earlier. if all you want to do is record and monitor the output

low blaze May 25, 2021, 2:08 AM

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yea I just need to calculate if I'm in range and track how often

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 2:08 AM

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"how often" is probably history_stats

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/history_stats/

low blaze May 25, 2021, 2:08 AM

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yeah but I can't use history stats until after a sensor has a value

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 2:08 AM

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well it will, won't it?

low blaze May 25, 2021, 2:08 AM

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I am going to use history_stats to track the 3rd sensor but I have to calculate and populate the 3rd first

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 2:09 AM

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and?

low blaze May 25, 2021, 2:09 AM

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?

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I'm stuck at how to create and populate the 3rd sensor

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 2:09 AM

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the logic to use?

low blaze May 25, 2021, 2:09 AM

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I thought I had it figured out but I'm spinning my wheels. I get the logic but not how to define it

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 2:10 AM

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{{ low_value < states("sensor.temp")|float < high_value }}

low blaze May 25, 2021, 2:11 AM

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I feel like I'm hopeless where are you saying I should put that, in an automation?

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 2:11 AM

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in a template binary_sensor

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/template/

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this is the new format that I haven't used personally, but somethign like this:

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template:
  - binary_sensor:
    - name: Temp Within Range
      state: '{{ low_value < states("sensor.temp")|float < high_value }}'

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should create binary_sensor.temp_within_range

low blaze May 25, 2021, 2:15 AM

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so that does the first half? creates a sensor that tells me if its in range

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but the range is conditional

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based on day or night

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(not in the real world, a separate status)

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should i modify the lines to define if statements for that ?

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 2:18 AM

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template:
  - binary_sensor:
    - name: Temp Within Range
      state: >-
        {% if is_state('sun.sun', 'above_horizon') %}
          {{ day_low_value < states("sensor.temp")|float < day_high_value }}
        {% else %}
          {{ night_low_value < states("sensor.temp")|float < night_high_value }}
        {% endif %}

low blaze May 25, 2021, 2:19 AM

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that's the demonstration one right

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 2:19 AM

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I just wrote that

low blaze May 25, 2021, 2:19 AM

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oh ok

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when I say day/night

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i'm not talking about time of day

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it's a status of my environment

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 2:20 AM

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you can put whatever you want in the "if" clause

low blaze May 25, 2021, 2:20 AM

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(based on a separate tracked value)

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k

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 2:20 AM

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I'm just showing you the syntax

low blaze May 25, 2021, 2:20 AM

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thanks for your help rob I am going to go play around with this 🙂

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 2:20 AM

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you can do "and" and "or" and parentheses and other stuff to further complicate it

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np

low blaze May 25, 2021, 2:28 AM

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{% if states('binary_sensor.awake') = 'on' %}

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This is what I'm using

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TemplateSyntaxError: expected token 'end of statement block', got '='

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 2:34 AM

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You used = instead of ==

low blaze May 25, 2021, 2:34 AM

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I think I'm functional now:

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{% set day_low_value = 53 %}
{% set day_high_value = 59 %}
{% set night_low_value = 51 %}
{% set night_high_value = 63 %}
{% if states('binary_sensor.awake') == 'on' %}
{{ day_low_value < states("sensor.tasmota_am2301_humidity")|float < day_high_value }}
{% else %}
{{ night_low_value < states("sensor.tasmota_am2301_humidity")|float < night_high_value }}
{% endif %}

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 2:36 AM

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Should work. You can play with the sensor value in devtools -> States

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You may want <= for one of the limits

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Or both. Or neither

low blaze May 25, 2021, 3:06 AM

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ok works in dev tools template test

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trying to add into my sensors-binary.yaml

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platform: template
name: humidity_correct
state: >-
{% set day_low_value = 68 %}
{% set day_high_value = 72 %}
{% set night_low_value = 53 %}
{% set night_high_value = 57 %}
{% if states('light.grow_light') == 'on' %}
{{ day_low_value < states("sensor.tasmota_am2301_humidity")|float < day_high_value }}
{% else %}
{{ night_low_value < states("sensor.tasmota_am2301_humidity")|float < night_high_value }}
{% endif %}

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configuration checker says : Invalid config for [binary_sensor.template]: [name] is an invalid option for [binary_sensor.template]. Check: binary_sensor.template->name. (See ?, line ?).

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 3:13 AM

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You need to follow the docs; https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/template/#legacy-sensor-configuration-format

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Either use the new format I wrote above, or the legacy format you seem to be using

low blaze May 25, 2021, 3:15 AM

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but where do i put your format above?

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 3:15 AM

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You have something in between now

low blaze May 25, 2021, 3:15 AM

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inside a sensors yaml?

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 3:15 AM

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Just read the docs

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See how they differ

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Note there’s no name: there

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Which is what the error says

low blaze May 25, 2021, 3:16 AM

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oh you're saying the new format does use name

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 3:16 AM

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The old format doesn’t

low blaze May 25, 2021, 3:16 AM

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but I'm trying to use the old format but keeping your "name" entry

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 3:16 AM

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Yes

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So pick one 🙂

low blaze May 25, 2021, 3:18 AM

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where would your new format go?

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I can't seem to add it without getting errors

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 3:18 AM

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Docs

blazing burrow May 25, 2021, 3:19 AM

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@low blaze are you using packages to split the config?

low blaze May 25, 2021, 3:19 AM

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I made a few yamls yes to split up the config

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maybe thats making the new format not work

blazing burrow May 25, 2021, 3:19 AM

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yes

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 3:19 AM

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It’s not

blazing burrow May 25, 2021, 3:19 AM

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no?

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 3:19 AM

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Includes are not packages

blazing burrow May 25, 2021, 3:20 AM

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ah, so there aren't packages involved? lol

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that's what i asked

low blaze May 25, 2021, 3:20 AM

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I guess i don't know what a package is

blazing burrow May 25, 2021, 3:20 AM

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ok

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then probably no

low blaze May 25, 2021, 3:20 AM

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I'm just trying to paste in the example you wrote

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and It won't accept it

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 3:21 AM

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I recommend spending some time with the docs

low blaze May 25, 2021, 3:21 AM

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k

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thanks

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I'm sure i am being annoying at this point 😉

blazing burrow May 25, 2021, 3:21 AM

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ah crap i just dropped in and didn't even really read

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my bad yall

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it is a bit annoying that name is for the new ones, but the old ones have friendly_name

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the bigger annoyance for me is that the new format doesn't work with packages

silent barnBOT May 25, 2021, 8:35 AM

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@formal ember posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BST4wNFCMT/

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@formal ember posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dnPNtmhBQw/

formal ember May 25, 2021, 8:37 AM

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woops, it was under 15 lines, dunno why it did that

formal ember May 25, 2021, 8:37 AM

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silent barn

anyway, if anyone cares to take a look, its all here 😄

nocturne chasm May 25, 2021, 11:37 AM

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So the paste itself is line numbered 🤔

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And try following this @formal ember
https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/cover.template/#configuration

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Looks like you have your first two lines reversed

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And is it passing a cli config check?

formal ember May 25, 2021, 11:46 AM

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yeah it passed

nocturne chasm May 25, 2021, 11:48 AM

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The UI config check or a cli config check?

formal ember May 25, 2021, 11:48 AM

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UI, whats the cli one?

formal ember May 25, 2021, 11:51 AM

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nocturne chasm Looks like you have your first two lines reversed

hmm which two are they?

nocturne chasm May 25, 2021, 11:51 AM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/tools/check_config/
There is a bot message if I can find it. You are better off learning how to do a command line config check

silent barnBOT May 25, 2021, 11:51 AM

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Enable the "Configuration" section of the UI by adding config: to your configuration.yaml file, visit the docs page for more info.

formal ember May 25, 2021, 11:52 AM

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you bewdy

nocturne chasm May 25, 2021, 11:52 AM

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Not that one

formal ember May 25, 2021, 11:52 AM

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oh

nocturne chasm May 25, 2021, 11:52 AM

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formal ember hmm which two are they?

Did you compare it to the docs?

formal ember May 25, 2021, 11:53 AM

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yep, looks fine to me?

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but, the switch.turn_off and on may be incorrect

silent barnBOT May 25, 2021, 11:53 AM

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Always run the configuration check command when you make changes. Don't trust the UI check - it misses some problems.

nocturne chasm May 25, 2021, 11:54 AM

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Really, as cover: is top-level in the docs

formal ember May 25, 2021, 11:55 AM

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ah sorry, I am inside a cover.yaml file

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cover.open_cover and cover.close_cover may have to replace switch

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and i didn't have the !include in my config.yaml

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sweet all has worked I think 🙂

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- platform: template
  covers:
    bedroom_blind:
      device_class: blind
      friendly_name: "Bedroom Blind"
      value_template: "{{ is_state('cover.bedroom_rollerblind', 'closed') }}"
      open_cover:
        service: switch.turn_off
        entity_id: cover.bedroom_rollerblind
      close_cover:
        service: switch.turn_on
        entity_id: cover.bedroom_rollerblind
      stop_cover:
        service: switch.turn_{{ 'on' if is_state('cover.bedroom_rollerblind', 'off') else 'off' }}
        entity_id: cover.bedroom_rollerblind```

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there we go. now, how tf do I add in the icons to that one?! haha

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read the docs

nocturne chasm May 25, 2021, 12:01 PM

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Yes, I think it is in that same link

formal ember May 25, 2021, 12:02 PM

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        icon_template: >-
          {% if is_state('cover.bedroom_blind', 'open') %}
            mdi:window-open
          {% else %}
            mdi:window-closed
          {% endif %}```

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so, it shows as Open if it is fully open, but closed if it is anything else

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and on top of that, calling the service cover.close_cover to the new entity does nothing, matter of fact any service call does nothing

nocturne chasm May 25, 2021, 12:17 PM

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formal ember so, it shows as Open if it is fully open, but closed if it is anything else

Well, what states do your blinds support? If there are other states, add them to the template.....closing comes to mind

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But you can only do what your blinds support

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And you still have your service defined as switch.turn_off

formal ember May 25, 2021, 12:25 PM

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ah will take a look

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should the service be that of cover.close_cover etc?

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    bedroom_blind:
      device_class: blind
      friendly_name: "Bedroom Blind"
      value_template: "{{ is_state('cover.bedroom_rollerblind', 'closed') }}"
      open_cover:
        service: cover.open_cover
        entity_id: cover.bedroom_rollerblind
      close_cover:
        service: cover.close_cover
        entity_id: cover.bedroom_rollerblind
      stop_cover:
        service: cover.{{ 'open' if is_state('cover.bedroom_rollerblind', 'close') else 'close' }}_cover
        entity_id: cover.bedroom_rollerblind```

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trying this

formal ember May 25, 2021, 1:00 PM

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right so https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/xbDrJ2PpMH/ gives me a slider like the normal cover entity to set the position, but I can only slide it to the extremes, as in 0 or 100. think i would need to put in a state attribute of the %?

marble jackal May 25, 2021, 1:38 PM

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blazing burrow the bigger annoyance for me is that the new format doesn't work with packages

I've noticed this as well.. now my configuration.yaml has an additional line 😛

formal ember May 25, 2021, 2:43 PM

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nocturne chasm But you can only do what your blinds support

so have done some reading. the finished product, although not 100% happy with it https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/YwS75tYbN8/

nocturne chasm May 25, 2021, 2:46 PM

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You should be able to define steps with your sliders

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/input_number/

formal ember May 25, 2021, 2:55 PM

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Sorted it out with the set_data_position, in particular the data field

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Think there’s a way to list the state attributes such as battery, link quality etc like the original one has?

quiet lagoon May 25, 2021, 3:31 PM

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I moved to a new house that has garbage every week and recycling every two weeks. I have been looking at examples on the forums for templates but can't get anything to work. I was hoping for a single automation with a template for the notification method that if week = odd then Garbage else Garbage and Recycling. Anyone have an example to go by?

quiet lagoon May 25, 2021, 4:09 PM

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{% if (not now().isocalendar()[1] % 2) %} Garbage Day {%else%} Garbage and Recycling Day {%endif%} Seems to work, can anyone check it. It returns Garbage and Recycling which is true for this week.

silent barnBOT May 25, 2021, 4:39 PM

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@dark sparrow posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8WgsnXPTzt/

dark sparrow May 25, 2021, 4:41 PM

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10 lines of text is a code wall 😄
Ah well. I'm trying to figure out the templating with a custom timestamp. it comes in as an integer, so the template functions don't seem to work with it. I could use a few more clues!

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If I change to {% set data = { 'timestamp':'20210510141920' } %}, the time functions work. So is there a way to convert the data to a string value?

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Found something that works, {{ strptime("{}".format(data.timestamp), "%Y%m%d%H%M%S").year }}

true otter May 25, 2021, 7:23 PM

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Hey guys I created this icon_template {% if is_state('sensor.alarm_state','Armed Home') %} mdi:shield-home {% elif is_state('sensor.alarm_state','Alarm Pendingg') %} mdi:timer {% elif is_state('sensor.alarm_state','Armed Away') %} mdi:shield-car {% elif is_state('sensor.alarm_state','Armed Nightt') %} mdi:lock-open {% elif is_state('sensor.alarm_state','Alarm Disarmed') %} mdi:shield-off {% elif is_state('sensor.alarm_state','Alarm Triggered') %} mdi:alarm-bell {% else %} mdi:lock-question {% endif %} , but now I want to have the different states show in a different colors without needing to create a new template. Is that possible

mighty ledge May 25, 2021, 9:05 PM

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true otter Hey guys I created this icon_template ```{% if is_state('sensor.alarm_state','Ar...

You can only color an icon using custom lovelace cards or integrations, meaning that it will always be a separate template

nocturne chasm May 25, 2021, 9:16 PM

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Can you .split between two characters and take what is in between them?

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 9:17 PM

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are you still trying to get the "?" back for your dad jokes?

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there's only empty space between two characters

nocturne chasm May 25, 2021, 9:17 PM

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Lmao....naw but last night got me template motivated to clean some things up

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(192.168.1.1)

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Just pull out the ip

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 9:18 PM

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extract the part between the parens?

nocturne chasm May 25, 2021, 9:18 PM

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.split between parens

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Yes

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But obviously IPs are not always the same length

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 9:19 PM

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doesn't matter

nocturne chasm May 25, 2021, 9:19 PM

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Well...for my jinja knowledge it does 🤣

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 9:19 PM

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does Jinja do slices?

mighty ledge May 25, 2021, 9:20 PM

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ya

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[x:y]

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 9:20 PM

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[2:-2]

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or that's off-by-one

mighty ledge May 25, 2021, 9:20 PM

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it would be [1:-1]

nocturne chasm May 25, 2021, 9:20 PM

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So .slice

mighty ledge May 25, 2021, 9:20 PM

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if the string is (dslkfjalskdjf)

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 9:20 PM

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sigh, changed it at the last sec

nocturne chasm May 25, 2021, 9:21 PM

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But there is more to the string than that

mighty ledge May 25, 2021, 9:21 PM

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your_string_var[1:-1]

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ah ok

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 9:21 PM

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gotta fully define the problem 🙂

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might need a regex

mighty ledge May 25, 2021, 9:21 PM

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You can lazily split on the ( and then ) and take [-1][1]

nocturne chasm May 25, 2021, 9:21 PM

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Regex🤢

mighty ledge May 25, 2021, 9:21 PM

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or regex

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regex is terrible in the HA jinja EVN

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its been on my list to change but I always forget

inner mesa May 25, 2021, 9:22 PM

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regex_search or match returns indicies

mighty ledge May 25, 2021, 9:23 PM

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my_string_var.split('(')[-1].split(')')[0]

nocturne chasm May 25, 2021, 9:23 PM

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But you can’t do something like .split(‘(‘:’)’)

mighty ledge May 25, 2021, 9:23 PM

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lasiest way

nocturne chasm May 25, 2021, 9:23 PM

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That’s ugly

mighty ledge May 25, 2021, 9:23 PM

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yep

nocturne chasm May 25, 2021, 9:23 PM

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But it errored

mighty ledge May 25, 2021, 9:24 PM

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worked for me

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check your varname

nocturne chasm May 25, 2021, 9:25 PM

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Ok, that’s different

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Thanks

mighty ledge May 25, 2021, 9:25 PM

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np

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I'm guessing you're switching to the 'new' style templates?

nocturne chasm May 25, 2021, 9:25 PM

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🤷🏼‍♂️

mighty ledge May 25, 2021, 9:25 PM

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ah just cleaning up

nocturne chasm May 25, 2021, 9:26 PM

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Yes...just fart around in template editor till it works

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Trying to template out illegal logins to replace IPs with known local devices

mighty ledge May 25, 2021, 9:27 PM

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ah, in the long run you might need regex if you get some ( that don't have closing )

nocturne chasm May 25, 2021, 9:27 PM

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Because......kids

mighty ledge May 25, 2021, 9:27 PM

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ah

nocturne chasm May 25, 2021, 9:28 PM

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{{message}} set by Ledeus I think is pretty standard

mighty ledge May 25, 2021, 9:29 PM

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ah ok, yeah you should be good then

true otter May 25, 2021, 9:57 PM

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petro, so if I have door& window/motion/humidity/temp/smoke& co sensors, I would need to create a icon_color template for each item group?

wet sail May 25, 2021, 10:45 PM

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any ideas why round isn't rounding? {{ states.sensor.upstairs_temperature.state | float | round(2) - states.sensor.downstairs_temperature.state | float | round(2) | abs | round(1) }} results in 5.200000000000003

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ah wait, maybe I answered my own question. Order of operation issue... {{ (states.sensor.upstairs_temperature.state | float | round(2)) - (states.sensor.downstairs_temperature.state | float) | round(2) | abs | round(1) }}

ivory delta May 25, 2021, 10:48 PM

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Not just order of operations. The order matters but only because you're doing it after you've performed floating point math.

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Floating point math gives weird precision in some cases.

formal ember May 26, 2021, 8:29 AM

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Can a template God help this lowly peasant out? I have a template cover in order to invert the state of a cover, however it doesn't have any of the extra info that the original incorrect entity has, such as battery life, link quality etc. Is there a way to add these attributes to the template cover i have made?

solar lodge May 26, 2021, 8:50 AM

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Hi guys. Having trouble with a template in an automation. Here is the code:
https://www.codepile.net/pile/k5j0vDYv

The idea is notify through telegram which battery is low, for test purposes im using cover position and the message either doesn't arrive to telegram or gives me a blank space in the template

I tried trigger.name and trigger.friendly_name with no luck

Any idea?

arctic sorrel May 26, 2021, 8:52 AM

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I'd bet that the problem is the device trigger

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Look at https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/automation/templating/ - device triggers aren't mentioned

solar lodge May 26, 2021, 9:25 AM

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Been doing some tests with a state trigger instead of device. Managed to use trigger.from_state.state. But trigger.entity_id not working

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I also tried trigger.to_state.attributes.friendly_name and didnt work eithrr

solar lodge May 26, 2021, 10:28 AM

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solar lodge Hi guys. Having trouble with a template in an automation. Here is the code: http...

Solved setting the optional argument "parse_mode" in telegram bot to html.

I focused too much in the template itself rather than the actual notifier

toxic dome May 26, 2021, 1:30 PM

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formal ember Can a template God help this lowly peasant out? I have a `template cover` in ord...

By extra info do you mean attributes? If so then no, there's no way to do that. Template covers don't have an attributes option like template sensors and binary sensors. That means the only way to add attributes to it is via customization and those are constant.

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But you can just break those attributes out into template sensors

formal ember May 26, 2021, 1:31 PM

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awesome, thats a shame but thanks for the clarification

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literally just for OCD'ness when you tap on the cover in the UI and see all the related entities

toxic dome May 26, 2021, 1:32 PM

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hm yea that is nice

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worth a feature request if you can't find an existing one. Template covers are part of the template platform so it could support those, just doesn't have that option right now

formal ember May 26, 2021, 1:34 PM

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might do that... that would be on github yeah?

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or the HA Community site?

toxic dome May 26, 2021, 1:34 PM

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feature requests go on the forum in the feature request category

formal ember May 26, 2021, 1:34 PM

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thanks mate

formal ember May 26, 2021, 1:46 PM

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toxic dome feature requests go on the forum in the feature request category

https://community.home-assistant.io/t/template-cover-attributes/311209

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give it a tickle 😉

pastel moon May 27, 2021, 6:12 AM

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Will a wait_template have to go in the Action part of a automation? I'd like to have it before that...

bronze horizon May 27, 2021, 6:28 AM

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It can be the first action, which fires as soon as the automation does... I'm not sure how it could be before that 😛

pastel moon May 27, 2021, 6:39 AM

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Ah, ok. Thanks. Problem I have is a sensor that isn't fully updated (after HA restart) when conditions are evaluated, so trying to wait until it is....

bronze horizon May 27, 2021, 6:46 AM

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You can put the whole template inside an if-not-null kinda thing to prevent that.

pastel moon May 27, 2021, 6:49 AM

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That is interesting... How would I write something like that?

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This is the template I want... wait_template: "{{ states('sensor.avg_illumination') | int > 0 }}"

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This is the automation btw... https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/467hXYc7d5/

bronze horizon May 27, 2021, 7:23 AM

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Ah I usually use templates in sensors... Not sure why that can't just be a condition?

pastel moon May 27, 2021, 7:26 AM

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You got me thinking! I'll try the wait template in the sensor definition... As I read it only scripts support it, but kinda hoping... 🙂

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Probably isn't that easy...

uneven edge May 28, 2021, 3:16 AM

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Hey guys, I'm working on a switch template which will run the scripts to turn on and off the curtain. However, it only manage to run the "turn on script" but the switch's state does not update to "on" state. How do I get it to update its states without feedback? I'm not using input boolean because I need the switch to be controlled in Alexa (https://community.home-assistant.io/t/alexa-toggle-input-boolean/39180/17?u=unitedgeek) . Here is my code. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CHZ7wYPyb7/ . Any suggestion and direction to go bout this ? Thanks!

uneven edge May 28, 2021, 4:27 AM

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got it. I use another input boolean to provide a fake feedback for the switch. When the switch template on, the input boolean also on. vice versa with off.

silent barnBOT May 28, 2021, 8:33 AM

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@shrewd vault posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZcgV6QNrXm/

bronze horizon May 28, 2021, 9:23 AM

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Are the brackets on the HS values necessary? I can't see how your rest command works but it looks like brackets would only complicate things?

glacial oxide May 28, 2021, 10:05 AM

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I have tried earlier in blueprints, I will try here since the problem I have is template related too...
What is wrong with this, I get unhashable type: 'list'...

action:
   - condition:
     - condition: template
       value_template: "{{ trigger.payload_json.action }} == 'toggle'"

Moving == 'toggle' inside }} doesnt help either

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I have tested the template using system_log.write, it returns True

bronze horizon May 28, 2021, 10:19 AM

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You have double-nested conditions.

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You need to make it something like:

action:
   - condition: template
     value_template: "{{ trigger.payload_json.action == 'toggle'}}"

deft timber May 28, 2021, 10:23 AM

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What do you want to do with a condition within an action:? Either your condition should be in condition: and not in action, or it should be within a choose:

glacial oxide May 28, 2021, 10:25 AM

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I grabbed it from an automation on the zigbee2mqtt website though there it was a trigger not an action

ivory delta May 28, 2021, 10:25 AM

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Conditions within sequences can actually be handy if you just want to interrupt the flow of an otherwise linear sequence.

glacial oxide May 28, 2021, 10:25 AM

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@deft timber I left out the rest of the code for brevity

glacial oxide May 28, 2021, 10:45 AM

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ok that fixed it thanks, I take it conditions is only if you are using multiple condition checks?

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If you are anding/oring

nocturne chasm May 28, 2021, 12:05 PM

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@glacial oxide https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/scripts/conditions/

glacial oxide May 28, 2021, 12:07 PM

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@nocturne chasm Yeah I have realised my errors now

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Thanks

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Is it possible to test the state of a target in a template?

nocturne chasm May 28, 2021, 12:08 PM

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Target?

glacial oxide May 28, 2021, 12:08 PM

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The variable of a target selector

ivory delta May 28, 2021, 12:08 PM

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What's a 'target selector'? 🤔

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An input select?

nocturne chasm May 28, 2021, 12:09 PM

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You can get the state of anything in HAss that has an entity

glacial oxide May 28, 2021, 12:09 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/blueprint/selectors/#target-selector

nocturne chasm May 28, 2021, 12:10 PM

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I don’t get blueprints so, you should ask over in #blueprints-archived

ivory delta May 28, 2021, 12:10 PM

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Well that's blueprints... which have their own channel:

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Yup

glacial oxide May 28, 2021, 12:12 PM

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Yeah I have asked over there, I think the answer will be no and I will have use entities and groups

nocturne chasm May 28, 2021, 12:16 PM

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If it’s not in dev tools / states, you can’t get the state. I believe the target_selector is a drop down in blueprints though. Reference your question, loop through the state of the lights in your group

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https://github.com/skalavala/mysmarthome/tree/master/jinja_helpers#17-list-devices-that-are-home-list-lights-that-are-on-list-anything-in-a-group-with-a-specific-state

glacial oxide May 28, 2021, 12:20 PM

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Thanks

covert leaf May 28, 2021, 3:27 PM

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so i am using the sense energy monitor integration, and I am trying to create some additional sensors to track From Grid and To Grid... is there a way when creating the template sensor to only update the state/value of the sensor conditionally, in my case "To Grid" I would only update the state/value when "From Grid" is negative. "From Grid" is calculated by subtracting. energy_production from energy_consumption

fresh yoke May 29, 2021, 12:12 AM

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hi (:

I'm trying to do some automation templating is this the right channel to ask for help ?

inner mesa May 29, 2021, 12:13 AM

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yep

reef onyx May 29, 2021, 11:12 AM

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Hello
I'm trying to make a restful switch to enable/disable a rule in my firewall. The switch works but i i try to make a template to check if it it is enabled or disabled.
The switch configration looks like this: https://hastebin.com/imebunaqal.less
The output from the api call looks like this: https://hastebin.com/ufavedadaq.json
The value i want to use is status under the results section (or what you call it)

I have tried a template like this:
is_on_template: "{{ value_json.results.status == enable}}"
Any idea what i'm doing wrong?

blazing burrow May 29, 2021, 12:04 PM

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reef onyx Hello I'm trying to make a restful switch to enable/disable a rule in my firewal...

quotes on enable

reef onyx May 29, 2021, 12:06 PM

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i give it a try

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Worked!
the line ended up looking like this as there is an array:
is_on_template: '{{ value_json.results[0].status == "enable"}}'

hallow dock May 29, 2021, 1:50 PM

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is this not a valid template condition?

  - condition: template
    value_template: '{{ trigger.to_state == "on" }}'```

ivory delta May 29, 2021, 1:53 PM

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to_state represents a state object. You still need to read the right field from that object.

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/state_object/

hallow dock May 29, 2021, 1:58 PM

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'{{ trigger.to_state.state == "on" }}'

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thanks,

civic lance May 29, 2021, 5:56 PM

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Hey, can i somehow use something like
{% set sensor = { "entity": "bla bla" } %}
for a is_state like:
if is_state({{ sensor.entity }}, "bla")

ivory delta May 29, 2021, 5:57 PM

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What are you trying to do?

civic lance May 29, 2021, 5:57 PM

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that example gives me a error, and is_state("{{ sensor.entity }}" doesnt work, i couldnt find anything on google or the forum.

civic lance May 29, 2021, 5:59 PM

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ivory delta What are you trying to do?

basically setting a var with a name, and 2 entites to use in a one lined, rather complex (for my liking) template string. i would have to replace the sensor entites like 6 or 7 times in a single line of that, and i need multiple

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so i tried to just store it in a var that i only have to replace that for the other lines i need.

ivory delta May 29, 2021, 6:00 PM

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Show me the original that you're trying to make simpler.

civic lance May 29, 2021, 6:03 PM

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{% if is_state("binary_sensor.rauchmelder_buro_alarm_smoke_2", "on") or is_state("binary_sensor.rauchmelder_buro_alarm_heat_2", "on")%}{{ states.binary_sensor.rauchmelder_buro_alarm_smoke_2.room_name}} | {{states.sensor.rauchmelder_buro_temperature_air_2.state}}°C |{% if is_state("binary_sensor.rauchmelder_buro_alarm_smoke_2", "on") %} SMOKE {% endif %}{% if is_state("binary_sensor.rauchmelder_buro_alarm_heat_2", "on") %}| HEAT {% endif %} {% endif %}

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https://ibb.co/zHYSk57

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output is supposed to look something along those lines.

ivory delta May 29, 2021, 6:09 PM

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And you just want to remove the repetition of the entity ID's?

civic lance May 29, 2021, 6:10 PM

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yeah kinda

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i need like a total of 5-15 lines of that in a single template, that would be a mess to debug and change.

ivory delta May 29, 2021, 6:11 PM

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You're not going to get it much shorter. Most of your code is the logic and what you're trying to output.

civic lance May 29, 2021, 6:11 PM

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Hmm

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Yeah, i see

ivory delta May 29, 2021, 6:14 PM

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You don't even repeat the same thing often. Even where you repeat a value, you'll use a line to set a variable just to save referencing it twice - that's not a saving.

civic lance May 29, 2021, 6:14 PM

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yeah ok

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is it technically possible tho?

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bcz that line might get even more complicated, thats just the start so far

ivory delta May 29, 2021, 6:15 PM

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Everything is possible. I just don't think it's worth the time or effort here to bother.

civic lance May 29, 2021, 6:15 PM

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Yeah ok

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Thanks

ivory delta May 29, 2021, 6:16 PM

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I've started changing this, you should get the idea:

{% set smoke = states.binary_sensor.rauchmelder_buro_alarm_smoke_2 %}
{% set heat = states.binary_sensor.rauchmelder_buro_alarm_heat_2 %}
{% set air = states.binary_sensor.rauchmelder_buro_temperature_air_2 %}
{% if smoke.state == 'on' or heat.state == 'on' %}
{{ states.binary_sensor.rauchmelder_buro_alarm_smoke_2.room_name }} | {{states.sensor.rauchmelder_buro_temperature_air_2.state }}°C |{% if is_state("binary_sensor.rauchmelder_buro_alarm_smoke_2", "on") %} SMOKE {% endif %}
{% if is_state("binary_sensor.rauchmelder_buro_alarm_heat_2", "on") %}| HEAT {% endif %}
{% endif %}```

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It adds 3 ugly lines at the beginning to save almost nothing.

civic lance May 29, 2021, 6:29 PM

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maybe i could do a array with all the sensors, that would probably make it a lot smaller

ivory delta May 29, 2021, 6:57 PM

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🤔

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I have no idea why you'd want to do that. However you do it, you still have to both assign and access your variables. All you achieve by using variables is saving a few characters of typing (and only if you're actually repeating things).

civic lance May 29, 2021, 7:01 PM

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when completely done i will have about 5-15 of these lines

ivory delta May 29, 2021, 7:03 PM

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And? You'll still have crap like this:
{% if smoke.state == 'on' or heat.state == 'on' %}
because you still need to access the right part of the state objects you assigned to your variables earlier on.

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In some places you want the state, in others you want the room_name. Variables aren't the hail Mary you think they are in this case.

civic lance May 29, 2021, 7:05 PM

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lol fair

fresh yoke May 30, 2021, 2:17 PM

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hi I’d like to create a condition template to check the MQTT trigger payload of an automation

If the key “RfRaw” in payload
If the key “Data” in [RfRaw]
Then if the 2,conditions are met
If a sub string is in the [Data] string

If all 3 conditions are met run automation

mighty ledge May 30, 2021, 2:21 PM

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civic lance lol fair

You just need to think ahead a bit, you're not reusing things properly and that's making it ugly. Also, you're checking to see if smoke is on and heat is on... inside an if statement that already checks if smoke is on and if heat is on. You can't really see that because you aren't formatting the code in a readable fashion. Code isn't about being condense, it's about being readable.

{% set smoke = expand('binary_sensor.rauchmelder_buro_alarm_smoke_2') | first | default %}
{% set heat = is_state('binary_sensor.rauchmelder_buro_alarm_heat_2', 'on') %}
{% set air = states('binary_sensor.rauchmelder_buro_temperature_air_2') %}
{% if smoke.state == 'on' and heat %}
  {{ smoke.room_name }} | {{ air }}°C | SMOKE | HEAT
{% endif %}

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and if you want the 'least amount of lines...

{% set smoke = expand('binary_sensor.rauchmelder_buro_alarm_smoke_2') | first | default %}
{% if smoke.state == 'on' and is_state('binary_sensor.rauchmelder_buro_alarm_heat_2', 'on') %}
  {{ smoke.room_name }} | {{ states('binary_sensor.rauchmelder_buro_temperature_air_2') }}°C | SMOKE | HEAT
{% endif %}

mighty ledge May 30, 2021, 2:25 PM

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fresh yoke hi I’d like to create a condition template to check the MQTT trigger payload of ...

what have you tried? No one's going to write the code for you. They'll be willing to help fix your code.

fresh yoke May 30, 2021, 2:25 PM

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I’ll send the code as soon as I get back home

fresh yoke May 30, 2021, 4:05 PM

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So just as an Idea of what I'm trying to do
I have a Sonoff RF Bridge that suddenly just decided to not receive any RF codes
So my automatons stopped working ... I tried everything from resetting the bridge to re-flashing it
I then tried the new method of the Portisch Firmware with tasmota
At first nothing happened, when I triggered the PIR sensor the RF Bridge should've picked up the RF code coming from it
but when I entered the rfraw 177 command it started picking up the RF data

Now comes my current issue, the RF data picked up with the rfraw 177 always changes, except for a code in the middle

I want to write a template condition to check the MQTT trigger payload and see if there's an RfRaw key in there, then if there is it checks if that key has a Data key inside it
If there is Data key check if there's a certain string in that Data value
if there is return a value of True (:

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- id: bathroom_motion_on
  alias: Bathroom motion on
  description: Set bathroom motion sensor state to on based on MQTT trigger
  condition: "{{%if '28181818190908190909090819090908190908190818181909' in {{trigger.payload_json['RfRaw']['Data]}}%}}"
  trigger:
    - platform: mqtt
      topic: tele/RF_Bridge/RESULT
  action:
    service: input_boolean.turn_on
    data:
      entity_id: input_boolean.bathroom_motion_detected

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here's the code i've written so far

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The problem is

1 idk how to do nested IFs in jinja2
2 how do I check if the keys Rfraw and Data in the payload

inner mesa May 30, 2021, 4:08 PM

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Nested if is not different from any if

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Checking for keys usually takes the form of ‘key’ in dict

fresh yoke May 30, 2021, 4:10 PM

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that's python syntax (:
does that work for jija as well ?

inner mesa May 30, 2021, 4:10 PM

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Yes

fresh yoke May 30, 2021, 4:11 PM

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can you write an example please ^^

inner mesa May 30, 2021, 4:11 PM

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There are lots of jinja docs out there

fresh yoke May 30, 2021, 4:12 PM

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inner mesa There are lots of jinja docs out there

yeah the official jinja doc confuses me tbh 😅

inner mesa May 30, 2021, 4:12 PM

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something like {{ 'key' in trigger.payload_json }}

fresh yoke May 30, 2021, 4:13 PM

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Ok thanks I'll try it
thanks for helping (:

inner mesa May 30, 2021, 4:13 PM

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this is from a Google hit: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/27740153/check-if-key-exists-in-a-python-dict-in-jinja2-templates

pastel moon May 30, 2021, 7:28 PM

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Hm... I used to have this under sensor: in configurations.yaml just to round the digits. Can the same effect be achieved in a better way? Redefining a sensor seems odd?

#      hallway_motion_temperature:
#        friendly_name: 'Hallway - Motion Sensor'
#        value_template: '{{ states("sensor.hallway_motion_temperature") | round(1) }}'
#        icon_template: 'mdi:thermometer'
#        unit_of_measurement: '°C'

ivory delta May 30, 2021, 7:28 PM

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Better how?

pastel moon May 30, 2021, 7:29 PM

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Don't know. I just though that defining a second version of the same sensor made little sense, but if that is how to do it, then all good 🙂

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I was thinking of perhaps using customize.yaml, but don't see how

ivory delta May 30, 2021, 7:31 PM

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If you want it to display differently, some cards allow templates... but as soon as you're using it in two places, you're repeating yourself somewhere else instead.

pastel moon May 30, 2021, 7:32 PM

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The one I use now is the entity itself, but really want to round that value, so what I did wasn't wrong then?

ivory delta May 30, 2021, 7:33 PM

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If it works, it can't be wrong.

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Bit weird to have a circular reference... personally, I would've called the new sensor something else.

pastel moon May 30, 2021, 7:34 PM

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It has a different name, or had when configured...

inner mesa May 30, 2021, 7:34 PM

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As mono said, you typically only care about precision when displaying the value, and many cards allow you to round there

pastel moon May 30, 2021, 7:40 PM

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Guess I'm using too simple cards then. I have only default ones, showing entities. Perhaps time to upgrade some of them. I haven't paid much attention to where I would find such cards. Is there an official GitHub or lots of different ones I need to search for?

inner mesa May 30, 2021, 7:41 PM

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HACS?

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Or just a Google search

pastel moon May 30, 2021, 7:42 PM

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If not entirely wrong some package handler? I will try Google... 🙂

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Thanks 🙂

silent barnBOT May 30, 2021, 7:42 PM

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Home Assistant Community Store is the successor to the old Custom Updater, and can do so much more - you should check it out. They even have a Discord server for issues with HACS itself.

pastel moon May 30, 2021, 7:43 PM

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Wow, perfect! 🙂

silent barnBOT May 30, 2021, 10:55 PM

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@earnest schooner posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cqF99k6222/

earnest schooner May 30, 2021, 10:56 PM

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oops.. guess I posted a code wall :/

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I'm having a really difficult time getting a customized entity that will show the state of the garage door. Can anybody point me in the first direction? This is what I have in my configuraiton.yaml

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https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cqF99k6222/

fossil venture May 30, 2021, 11:16 PM

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Use an mqtt binary sensor instead of an mqtt sensor. Then apply the device class garage_door.

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This will not only give you open/closed states but changing open/closed garage door icons as well.

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/binary_sensor.mqtt/

earnest schooner May 30, 2021, 11:19 PM

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thanks

earnest schooner May 30, 2021, 11:38 PM

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that worked, thank you. Templating makes me remember how much I hate yaml 😄

formal ember May 31, 2021, 2:32 AM

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Is a template able to adjust the colour of the icon of a sensor depending on the state? i.e. a temperature one?

inner mesa May 31, 2021, 2:37 AM

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No, that would be a #frontend-archived thing

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And depends on the card

formal ember May 31, 2021, 2:39 AM

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Cheers Rob, just found something about being able to do it via customize. will head to frontend if I get any more issues with it

inner mesa May 31, 2021, 2:40 AM

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That’s custom_ui

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Sort of quasi-supported

formal ember May 31, 2021, 2:46 AM

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is that a HACS thing?

inner mesa May 31, 2021, 2:51 AM

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I don’t know how it’s distributed anymore

formal ember May 31, 2021, 3:58 AM

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hmm, just want to top my UI off after copying yours 😄 although I did make some changes and it looks quite different

inner mesa May 31, 2021, 4:02 AM

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Mine is almost entirely custom button cards, which allow for color changes based on state

stone marsh May 31, 2021, 5:12 AM

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I'm struggling to think of how to sum the last 24 hours of rainfall from the openweathermap_rain sensor. It has the rain volume for the last hour

inner mesa May 31, 2021, 5:16 AM

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I use a statistics sensor for such things

stone marsh May 31, 2021, 5:18 AM

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max_age of 24hrs? what about sampling_size

inner mesa May 31, 2021, 5:21 AM

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of samples, so 24

digital warren May 31, 2021, 1:03 PM

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Hey, I want to be able to see the state of a program running on my pc. For example, I would see that Google chrome's state is set to true

coarse tiger May 31, 2021, 1:05 PM

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and how does that relate to this channel?

digital warren May 31, 2021, 1:09 PM

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Idek

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In what channel should I write it

mighty ledge May 31, 2021, 1:09 PM

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This channel is for templates

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Probably should start in #general-archived

digital warren May 31, 2021, 1:10 PM

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Aight thnx

eternal grove May 31, 2021, 3:13 PM

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I'm finally getting around to fixing some broken templates that the mqtt.publish service uses on a vacuum lovelace card to set the parameters for it. The error from the UI pops up quickly and seems to indicate my template needs to be sending a string. It is currently set to generate a json payload based on the state of an input_datetime set in the card. So with that background, here are my questions: ```

The error that pops up in the browser does not appear in the logs. Is there a place I can go review those errors with a little more time?
What was the general date of the changes in the templating system? I've been going through the last year's breaking changes because I remember one of the releases centering on template changes but haven't been able to find it yet.
The docs say "It is strongly recommended to use 'states(sensor.temperature)'... In the dev tools, when I put my template in that form it doesn't work.
works: "start_time": "{{ states.input_datetime.vacuum_start_time.state }}"
doesn't work: "states('input_datetime.vacuum_start_time')"
What am I doing wrong here? And do I need to change this format?
Thank you.```

glacial matrix May 31, 2021, 7:37 PM

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Any advice on what is wrong with this template within an mqtt switch? it's for a tasmota ifan03. The speed controls work, but using the on and off toggle, it doesnt show as on. ever. If i switch it on using the toggle, the button switches back to the off position.

    {% if value_json.FanSpeed is defined %}
      {% if value_json.FanSpeed == 0 -%}0{%- elif value_json.FanSpeed > 0 -%}4{%- endif %}
    {% else %}
      {% if states.fan.ceilingfan.state == 'off' -%}0{%- elif states.ceilingfan.state == 'on' -%}4{%- endif %}
    {% endif %}

inner mesa May 31, 2021, 7:42 PM

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one of these? https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/switch.mqtt/

glacial matrix May 31, 2021, 7:45 PM

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Yes, my config is for a ceiling fan. my full config is here.
https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/r8YCncRSxX/
it is controlling the fan as expected, but doesnt seem to be showing corectly in HA.
in the command view on the fan when it is turned on, i can see:

20:38:58 MQT: stat/ifan1/RESULT = {"FanSpeed":1}

inner mesa May 31, 2021, 7:55 PM

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you're using the wrong values for payload_on and payload_off

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your template is reporting 0 and 4, but these are your on/off definitions:

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  payload_off: '0'
  payload_on: '1'

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looks like you followed some of this, but not all of it: https://tasmota.github.io/docs/Home-Assistant/#fans

Home Assistant - Tasmota

Everything about using Tasmota in Home Assistant

glacial matrix May 31, 2021, 8:00 PM

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I've not seen that. I'll try and figure out where i've gone wrong from there.

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thank you.

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the payload when on can be anything from 1 to 4 does that make a difference?

inner mesa May 31, 2021, 8:03 PM

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you just need to be consistent in what you report and what you're checking

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your logic sets it to 0 if it's 0 and 4 if it's greater than 0

glacial matrix May 31, 2021, 8:04 PM

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so 4 just needs changing to 1 right?

inner mesa May 31, 2021, 8:05 PM

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the easiest thing to do is to follow the docs above and use this:

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payload_on: '4'

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you can use whatever you want, just be consistent

glacial matrix May 31, 2021, 8:06 PM

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Thanks, I thought that the payload had something to do with reported state on the tasmota fen.

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fan^

inner mesa May 31, 2021, 8:07 PM

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only if you don't specify state_value_template. if you do, then you're deciding how to interpret what it reports and how to indicate that to HA

glacial matrix May 31, 2021, 8:09 PM

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ahhh, ok thank you. I assume that if i have retain: true in the config, it will keep the state after a HA restart is that correct?

inner mesa May 31, 2021, 8:10 PM

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it retains the state in the MQTT broker for HA to read when it restarts

glacial matrix May 31, 2021, 8:10 PM

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great! Cheers.

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got it sorted now. I found that using 4 meant that when i just pressed the toggle to put the fan into low speed mode, it didnt work, so changed all values to 1, and that is now working on the toggle and when the speed is set. Thank you.

shrewd vault Jun 1, 2021, 7:47 AM

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supported_color_modes: - hs color_mode: unknown
in my template light entity. how to set color mode in yaml?

patent flame Jun 1, 2021, 8:41 AM

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hello, I'm defining a MQTT Light, and I'm using unique ID, but it's not using that, can anyone help?

jagged obsidian Jun 1, 2021, 8:41 AM

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defining in yaml?

patent flame Jun 1, 2021, 8:41 AM

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yes

#

  unique_id: light_00_all
  name: "Light all"
  state_topic: "light/BBFF"
  command_topic: "light/BBFF"
  state_value_template: "{{ value_json.state }}"
  payload_on: "On"
  payload_off: "Off"```

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and it gets light.light_all and not light.light_00_all

jagged obsidian Jun 1, 2021, 8:42 AM

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then no

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unique_id is reserved for discovery as written in documentation

patent flame Jun 1, 2021, 8:43 AM

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An ID that uniquely identifies this light. If two lights have the same unique ID, Home Assistant will raise an exception.```

jagged obsidian Jun 1, 2021, 8:52 AM

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unique_id != entity_id

patent flame Jun 1, 2021, 8:52 AM

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can I set the entity_id?

patent flame Jun 1, 2021, 8:52 AM

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jagged obsidian unique_id != entity_id

I unerstand that

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what I want is to "fix" the entity_id

jagged obsidian Jun 1, 2021, 8:53 AM

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derived from the name field

patent flame Jun 1, 2021, 8:53 AM

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so I can change the name, and not change the entity_id...

jagged obsidian Jun 1, 2021, 8:53 AM

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which is derived from name so you're changing both

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once they're in HA if you set unique_id you can customize the entity

patent flame Jun 1, 2021, 8:56 AM

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jagged obsidian once they're in HA if you set unique_id you can customize the entity

I've just removed the unique_id from all devices 😭

jagged obsidian Jun 1, 2021, 8:56 AM

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feelsbadman

shrewd vault Jun 1, 2021, 9:07 AM

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why my template_light
supported_color_modes: hs, color_mode: unknown ponder

patent flame Jun 1, 2021, 9:18 AM

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I have this:

#

  name: "Light 00 all"
  unique_id: light_00_all
  state_topic: "light/BBFF"
  command_topic: "light/BBFF"
  state_value_template: "{{ value_json.state }}"
  payload_on: "On"
  payload_off: "Off"```

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and the entity it's light.light_all

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why?

shrewd vault Jun 1, 2021, 9:24 AM

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try

light:
  - platform: mqtt
    your_light_X:
      name: .....
      unique_id: ....

patent flame Jun 1, 2021, 9:34 AM

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Visual code says "property your_light_x is not allowed"

charred dagger Jun 1, 2021, 9:36 AM

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I guess you want the entity id to be light.light_00_all?

patent flame Jun 1, 2021, 9:36 AM

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yes

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no matter what is the "name" property

charred dagger Jun 1, 2021, 9:37 AM

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This is a question for #integrations-archived, actually, but I think HA checks for entities which already has the same unique_id and will use that. Try changing the entity id from the UI.

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Configuration -> Entities

patent flame Jun 1, 2021, 9:40 AM

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I have arround 80 entities... it's not pratical to do like that 🙂

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but I think it's an option... not pratical..

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if I can choose on yaml it would be better...

narrow knot Jun 1, 2021, 2:46 PM

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I want to check if the temperature in one room is at least 5 celsius lower than another room inside an automation condition

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how would I go about it? I know how to check if one number is bigger than the other, just not how to check if the difference is higher than 5

dreamy sinew Jun 1, 2021, 2:56 PM

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absolute value is your friend

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{% set sensor2 = 5 %}
{{ (sensor1 - sensor2)|abs() }}```

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that'll ensure you always have a positive number

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so then you can do {{ (...)|abs() > 5 }}

earnest schooner Jun 1, 2021, 5:03 PM

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I'm trying to use a cover template to tie together a binary sensor and a relay into an object to represent my garage door. State monitoring works fine, but when I click the UI element, the mqtt command never gets sent to the device. I've monitored the mqtt messages on the device itself, and listened to that topic from ha's mqtt broker. State works fine, but the command never gets sent. ideas?

`cover:

platform: mqtt
name: "Garage Door"
unique_id: garage_door_opener
device_class: garage
state_topic: "tele/garagecontroller_0051BB/SENSOR"
command_topic: "cmnd/garage_controller_0051BB/power1"
value_template: "{{ value_json.Switch4 }}"
state_open: "OFF"
state_closed: "ON"
payload_open: "1"
payload_close: "1"`

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ugh.. nevermind.. just figured it out. Needed to set the correct action, service, and target on the button card. /facepalm

fossil hearth Jun 1, 2021, 6:06 PM

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how to reject a state and not an attribute instead of this rejectattr while mapping

ivory delta Jun 1, 2021, 6:08 PM

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| reject?

silent barnBOT Jun 1, 2021, 6:28 PM

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@native pilot posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Tyq4rY85nk/

native pilot Jun 1, 2021, 6:28 PM

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Tried to protect this template from division by zero but it still fail, why?

inner mesa Jun 1, 2021, 7:15 PM

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states are strings, so you need |float

fossil hearth Jun 1, 2021, 9:03 PM

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ivory delta `| reject`?

reject('eq','state') ?

silent barnBOT Jun 1, 2021, 9:11 PM

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@fossil hearth When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

ivory delta Jun 1, 2021, 9:11 PM

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And if you read the docs, it'll tell you that you have to pass a test in. The docs also explain how tests work.

ancient garnet Jun 1, 2021, 10:53 PM

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Ive lots of zigbee devices which all expose the battery level as different names (and some devices even report values which fluctuate due to temp). Anyone know of a generic template which can alert me to low battery level? I found an old template on HA forums, but couldn't get it working

brazen spear Jun 2, 2021, 8:22 AM

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I'm looking to make a template sensor that updates with the delta to next x weekday (say, days untill wednesday for example), I have no idea where to start apart from a time_pattern triggered sensor.

nova ivy Jun 2, 2021, 9:16 PM

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good afternoon guys,
I use this mqtt template sensor:

platform: mqtt
name: "Room Humidity"
state_topic: "tele/Wemos2/SENSOR"
value_template: "{{ value_json['AM2301'].Humidity | float - 0 | round(1) }}"
unit_of_measurement: '%'
availability_topic: "tele/Wemos2/LWT"
payload_available: "Online"
payload_not_available: "Offline"

works fine, but it does not round up the decimals,
any clue how to do it ?
Thank you

dreamy sinew Jun 2, 2021, 9:18 PM

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Because you're rounding 0

nova ivy Jun 2, 2021, 9:18 PM

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please explain

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what I have to do

dreamy sinew Jun 2, 2021, 9:21 PM

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Order of operations

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Not really sure what that -0 is accomplishing though

nova ivy Jun 2, 2021, 9:23 PM

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corrects the value shown on lovelace, i.e. -10 will turn 50 to 40 and so on

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left it there for future calibration

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the prob is that a lot of times I have values like 50.9999666545 %

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which is not very useful, 50% or even 50.9% would be fine

dreamy sinew Jun 2, 2021, 9:24 PM

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I get why you're rounding, but you have a pemdas problem but | go first

nova ivy Jun 2, 2021, 9:25 PM

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I dont understand you, what should I correct in my code?

dreamy sinew Jun 2, 2021, 9:28 PM

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Remember how you had to group things in grade school maths? Same thing here

nova ivy Jun 2, 2021, 9:30 PM

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and...

dreamy sinew Jun 2, 2021, 9:31 PM

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And I've given you enough hints to figure it out

nova ivy Jun 2, 2021, 9:39 PM

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in here: https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/templating/
it has the same thing: {{ (states('sensor.temperature') | float * 10) | round(2) }}

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I dont see how is this different from what I posted above

dreamy sinew Jun 2, 2021, 9:39 PM

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There is one very key difference

nova ivy Jun 2, 2021, 9:41 PM

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which is?

dreamy sinew Jun 2, 2021, 9:42 PM

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I'm not going to hand hold you, you're going to need to work it out so you actually learn

nova ivy Jun 2, 2021, 9:44 PM

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added the 2 paranthesis, restarting HA...

ivory delta Jun 2, 2021, 9:44 PM

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dreamy sinew I get why you're rounding, but you have a pemdas problem but `|` go first

Random fact: it's BODMAS/BIDMAS in the UK, depending on which school you went to 😄

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Brackets, Orders, Division/Multiplication, Addition/Subtraction
The 'I' in the alternative version is for indices. 🤷‍♂️

nova ivy Jun 2, 2021, 9:46 PM

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Im from Greece, so we were taught them paranthesis, I had to look up what pemdas is

cinder tide Jun 2, 2021, 9:48 PM

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hey. I'm trying to create a binary sensor from an event, and I can see that we now have trigger based template sensors. how do I set the binary sensor based on data in the event though? the event type is too generic

nova ivy Jun 2, 2021, 9:49 PM

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Ok now !!!
Changed the code to:
value_template: "{{ (value_json['AM2301'].Humidity | float - 30.0) | round(1) }}"
restarted HA and it worked

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Thank you @dreamy sinew

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Dont know about code, Im from another field, but I am learning (painfully 😛 )

cinder tide Jun 2, 2021, 10:05 PM

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cinder tide hey. I'm trying to create a binary sensor from an event, and I can see that we n...

Don't worry - figured it out by creating an event trigger in the UI, then viewing the resulting yaml 🙂

true otter Jun 3, 2021, 2:38 AM

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hey guys I am trying to create a icon_color template icon_color: > {% if is_state('group.security_sensors', 'on') %} return 'rgb(0,255,0)' {% elif is_state('group.security_sensors', 'off') %} return 'rgb(0,0,255) {% else %} fas:alert {% endif %}, but I am getting this error Invalid config for [sensor.template]: [icon_color] is an invalid option for [sensor.template]. Check: sensor.template->sensors->doors->icon_color. I would like to have the icon change color based on the state of the sensor. Can anyone help me sort out what I am doing wrong?

inner mesa Jun 3, 2021, 2:44 AM

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There’s no ‘icon_color:’ option for template sensors?

pliant patrol Jun 3, 2021, 7:49 AM

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Hey guys! I'm having a pretty frustrating issue. I've been trying to get an automation working for months now, and just FINALLY discovered the problem. Some lights have the brightness attribute, while others don't. I have no way to explain this. They're exactly the same type of dimmer switches. Can anyone help me? I'll send the attribute lists of each

silent barnBOT Jun 3, 2021, 7:51 AM

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@pliant patrol posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3H3tXgX9Dt/

pliant patrol Jun 3, 2021, 7:52 AM

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That was like 12 lines but ok :p

charred dagger Jun 3, 2021, 7:52 AM

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As far as the bot is concerned, that's 21 lines.

pliant patrol Jun 3, 2021, 7:53 AM

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I see, I assumed it would account for formatting syntax

charred dagger Jun 3, 2021, 7:53 AM

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The name "code wall" is missleading.

pliant patrol Jun 3, 2021, 7:53 AM

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gotcha

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You know what, I just realized the brightness attribute disappears when the light is turned off. Durr. So I still haven't found my issue.

night mural Jun 3, 2021, 8:02 AM

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Would someone be willing to help me out? I'm trying to template an InfluxDB query in configuration.yaml. The date-part should be evaluated and enclosed by single quotes. I've been trying different things, but can't seem to manage. https://pastebin.com/xnH27sK8

bleak cipher Jun 3, 2021, 4:50 PM

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Can a template be created using y=mx+b ?

dreamy sinew Jun 3, 2021, 4:51 PM

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gonna need more context

bleak cipher Jun 3, 2021, 4:53 PM

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I have a receiver that measures in (-) dB and the media player cards use 0-100. I'd like the media player card to reflect the same as the receiver. Easy to derive slope intercept from.

dreamy sinew Jun 3, 2021, 4:54 PM

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you can do math in a template

bleak cipher Jun 3, 2021, 4:55 PM

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can the templates use variables?

silent barnBOT Jun 3, 2021, 4:56 PM

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Jinja is used by Home Assistant's template engine, see the Jinja Template Designer Documentation

dreamy sinew Jun 3, 2021, 4:56 PM

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need to fix that. here's the template docs
https://jinja.palletsprojects.com/en/3.0.x/templates/

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you can do basically anything there

bleak cipher Jun 3, 2021, 4:57 PM

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yeah lol. thanks

ivory delta Jun 3, 2021, 5:03 PM

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dreamy sinew you can do basically anything there

Can they run Crysis?

dapper aurora Jun 3, 2021, 5:43 PM

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Can someone help me create a "time since last restart" template sensor using the uptime sensor? not sure where to start

inner mesa Jun 3, 2021, 6:40 PM

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there's a forum thread about it: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/uptime-in-days-hours-and-minutes/180916/4

brazen spear Jun 3, 2021, 6:50 PM

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how do I manage file splitting with template?

silent barnBOT Jun 3, 2021, 6:52 PM

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@brazen spear posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nbDmpkQvYD/

inner mesa Jun 3, 2021, 6:54 PM

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you can't use the new template format in a package

brazen spear Jun 3, 2021, 6:54 PM

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So, I add template to configuration.yaml and include from there?

regal sail Jun 3, 2021, 7:13 PM

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Are attribute_templates only calculated when the parent template sensor is evaluated based on the value_template or whenever any of those templates change?

ivory delta Jun 3, 2021, 7:15 PM

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That's more of a question for #integrations-archived but I believe it's when any of them change. It wouldn't make sense for attributes to only update when the state updates, otherwise you'd never get things like battery level updates for contact/motion sensors.

patent shore Jun 4, 2021, 2:30 AM

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So.. I’ve been trying to do this myself for weeks but I need help: I’ve managed to get my Nest camera’s showing in HomeKit using the integration but it doesn’t recognise the sensors (motion sensor, person sensor, or the doorbell). I understand that this is because they fire events rather than have sensor entities but, as I want homepod integration I need those. Decided to try to make a template sensor but I’ve never made one based on a trigger!? I’ll post what I’ve got so far but it might be embarrassingly bad… would also welcome suggestions of any other methods….

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I made this by editing the trigger sensor off the template page.. but didn’t know what to put next. Also, I don’t know how to post this properly (I’ll go and find out now), so, as it’s only small, hope it’s ok to just c&p!

trigger:
- platform: device
  device_id: not sure if I need to censor this so have just in case
  domain: nest
  type: doorbell_chime
  binary_sensor:
- name: Doorbell Pressed

bronze horizon Jun 4, 2021, 2:43 AM

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I think you might wanna take a different approach - use an input boolean rather than a template sensor to track states within HA, and use an automation with an event trigger to update those automations.

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My use case is a little different - I have PIR sensors firing MQTT events, and the automation is handled by NodeRed, but tracking these with input booleans works great.

patent shore Jun 4, 2021, 3:19 AM

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bronze horizon I think you might wanna take a different approach - use an input boolean rather ...

Thanks for the reply. I did this actually! I set up a select (options for doorbell: pressed, motion, sound, person, nothing) but it’s not very reliable and I’m not sure how to make it reset? I told it to just go back to “nothing” after 10 seconds because there doesn’t seem to be a trigger available for this… but this is obviously quite inaccurate because the motion might still be there. It also limits the possibility of setting any “if motion is detected for more than ____ do ____” automations 😞

bronze horizon Jun 4, 2021, 3:24 AM

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Is there not an event when the detection ends?

patent shore Jun 4, 2021, 3:25 AM

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Perhaps.. sorry, I’m still pretty new… I just know that the available triggers are just the detection “states”

bronze horizon Jun 4, 2021, 3:27 AM

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I'm no genius with HA myself so I'm not quite sure I know what you mean... I thought you were able to trigger off the events? (which aren't represented by a state in HA without this automation?)

patent shore Jun 4, 2021, 3:31 AM

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I could be using the wrong word but I think they’re “events”. Basically, all I know about this integration is that it doesn’t have separate entities for the sensors as I expected (apparently this is by design) and that the only way HA seems to even recognise the sensors/button is if I set up an automation to triggered by “device”… and then I get the options motion detected, sound detected, person detected & doorbell pressed.

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I tried to find something in the logbook but if I select the camera entity it says there are no entries. I understand that’s because that is just the camera… but is there a logbook for devices?

bronze horizon Jun 4, 2021, 3:34 AM

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Hmm, yeah looking at the integration doco there's no mention of an end event.

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You know how to see these in Dev Tools > Events right? That's where you'd see an end event, if it existed.

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But someone else who actually has one would probably have way nicer advice 😛

patent shore Jun 4, 2021, 3:39 AM

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It’s not something I’ve used tbh, as far as I was aware that was for firing an event… which I thought was to fake an event… but yeah.. not used it 🙈

patent shore Jun 4, 2021, 3:39 AM

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bronze horizon But someone else who actually has one would probably have way nicer advice 😛

Your attempts are much appreciated anyway!

bronze horizon Jun 4, 2021, 3:40 AM

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It's both for firing and listening to events.

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If you just type # in the listening field then click the button, you'll see everything, including the nest events (I think)

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Wait, I'm getting totally confused with MQTT events, I think you just want nest_event in that box

patent shore Jun 4, 2021, 3:48 AM

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In the “listen to events” bit?

bronze horizon Jun 4, 2021, 3:49 AM

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Yup

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So * (not # ) will show you everything for HA, nest_event should show you the Nest-specific ones. That's how I pull zha_event for my Conbee

patent shore Jun 4, 2021, 3:54 AM

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Ah yes.. Thanks very much! I can see it change from motion to person… but when there’s nothing it doesn’t seem to change at all

bronze horizon Jun 4, 2021, 4:03 AM

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Hmm, does the proper Nest app show this in any way?

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Could be a device limitation.

I just checked, they don't even sell Nests in Australia haha

floral river Jun 4, 2021, 6:49 AM

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I've previously used the legacy sensor templating to create entities from other entity attributes and states. I could then use a friendy_name_template to set the name based on the data.

I have started to use the new way of creating template sensors as described in https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/template/
If I set the friendly_name under attributes in the new configuration, it doesn't affect the name of the new sensor entity. Am I doing this wrong or is the name not possible to update using a template using this new way of creating sensors from templates?

fossil venture Jun 4, 2021, 7:05 AM

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use name not friendly_name

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/template/#name

nimble copper Jun 4, 2021, 8:05 AM

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In templating / jinja is ther a way of converting a list like this ['item 1', 'item 2, ...] into a list like this:

item 1
item 2
...

deft timber Jun 4, 2021, 8:16 AM

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What are you trying to do ? When a template is expecting a list to be returned, the template can return either

- item 1
- item 2

or [ "item 1", "item 2"] so I don't see the point of trying to convert one to another. The first representation is yaml, the second is jinja. But maybe I'm missing something?

nimble copper Jun 4, 2021, 8:19 AM

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It's purely for stylistic reasons. I was using an automation to output a list of entities that are currently unavailable or offline and then send that to myself in an email.

It's easier to read the list of entities in an email if it's in the YAML format rather than the bracketed format.

deft timber Jun 4, 2021, 8:20 AM

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{% set l = ["item 1", "item 2"] %}

{% for item in l %}
  {{"- "~item -}}
{% endfor %}

nimble copper Jun 4, 2021, 8:21 AM

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deft timber ``` {% set l = ["item 1", "item 2"] %} {% for item in l %} {{"- "~item -}} {%...

Thank you.

deft timber Jun 4, 2021, 8:22 AM

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Or, shorter

- {{ l | join('\n- ')}}

patent shore Jun 4, 2021, 9:34 AM

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bronze horizon Could be a device limitation. I just checked, they don't even sell Nests in Aus...

Other than sending a notification, no… or at least I don’t think so. I guess I’ll give up and cry 😭

ruby pollen Jun 4, 2021, 12:15 PM

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Trying to diagnose this new error message "Invalid config for [automation]: invalid template (TemplateSyntaxError: expected token 'end of statement block', got 'integer') for dictionary value @ data['action'][3]['data_template']. Got None. (See /home/homeassistant/homeassistant/configuration.yaml, line 4)." .... line 4 in configuration file is "group: !include groups.yaml", the next line is automations include.

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The error message isn't really helping much.

fossil venture Jun 4, 2021, 1:10 PM

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It's the 4th action in one of your automations.

dreamy sinew Jun 4, 2021, 1:26 PM

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deft timber What are you trying to do ? When a template is expecting a list to be returned, ...

fyi this is kinda moot anyway, yaml accepts ['item', 'item2'] natively for lists and current HA versions will output it as a list type for yaml to consume

ruby pollen Jun 4, 2021, 2:40 PM

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fossil venture It's the 4th action in one of your automations.

Hmm, I have about 70 automations and my automations file is 1600+ lines long ..

fossil venture Jun 4, 2021, 2:44 PM

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What was the last one you changed? Otherwise you'll have to do a binary search. Comment out half the automations, reload. If the error persists it's in the uncommented half, divide that in two with comments and try again. It will take you 7 tries to locate it at most.

fast mason Jun 4, 2021, 3:13 PM

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what can be a reason I can filter an entity with regex on the template editor but once I create a template sensor I just get unknown ?

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what can be a reason I can filter an entity with regex on the template editor but once I create a template sensor I just get unknown ?

ruby pollen Jun 4, 2021, 3:19 PM

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fossil venture What was the last one you changed? Otherwise you'll have to do a binary search. ...

Thanks, that was a useful approach. Found the error ... seems it decided it didn't like the leading zero in the comparison ... {% if now().hour < 07 %}

fossil venture Jun 4, 2021, 3:22 PM

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Yep. That will do it.

fossil venture Jun 4, 2021, 3:24 PM

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fast mason what can be a reason I can filter an entity with regex on the template editor bu...

Regex has issues with the type of quotes. Can you show your expression?

fast mason Jun 4, 2021, 3:24 PM

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False alarm. Damn typo 🤦‍♂️

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I remember that with the quotes. Needs to be reversed

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took me ages the first time I played with regex

floral river Jun 4, 2021, 4:22 PM

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fossil venture use `name` not `friendly_name`

Thank you

fossil hearth Jun 4, 2021, 5:08 PM

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how to sort mapping alphabetically ? |list | sort ?
output:
['S1', 'S2', 'S3', 'S4', 'S5', 'U10', 'U9']

dreamy sinew Jun 4, 2021, 5:10 PM

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as it sits that's sorted

#

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https://jinja.palletsprojects.com/en/latest/templates/#jinja-filters.sort

mental hamlet Jun 4, 2021, 5:16 PM

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Is it possible to format an entity output inside of the ui-lovelace.yaml . Something like entity: floor(sensor.temperature_1) ?

dreamy sinew Jun 4, 2021, 5:16 PM

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that would be a #frontend-archived question

mental hamlet Jun 4, 2021, 5:17 PM

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oh, sorry, mixed them up. I'll ask there

fossil hearth Jun 4, 2021, 5:17 PM

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dreamy sinew as it sits that's sorted

so how to arrange so that U9 come first ? alpha-numerical sort ascending .. i checked the link.. its abit too much for me hehe...

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it take 3 parameters ?

dreamy sinew Jun 4, 2021, 5:18 PM

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you don't. that's how it works for strings

fossil hearth Jun 4, 2021, 5:18 PM

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ok ..

dreamy sinew Jun 4, 2021, 5:18 PM

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you'd need to 0-pad the single digit numbers to avoid this

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"09" < "10"

fossil hearth Jun 4, 2021, 5:21 PM

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ok

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thanks

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🙂

steep kiln Jun 5, 2021, 12:03 AM

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mixed #templates-archived and #automations-archived question but I ask here first: I try to send the last time a sensor updated to a retained mqtt topic. Is {{ ((as_timestamp(now()) - as_timestamp(states.sensor.esp32_03_temperature.last_changed)) / 60) | round(0) }} min the best solution for that?

fossil venture Jun 5, 2021, 3:26 AM

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As it will always be in the past you can use {{ relative_time(states.sensor.esp32_03_temperature.last_changed) }}

mighty ledge Jun 5, 2021, 9:28 AM

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steep kiln mixed <#672223497736421388> and <#672220450977349653> question but I ask here fi...

I just store the timestamp

steep kiln Jun 5, 2021, 1:25 PM

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Hm thanks

heady robin Jun 5, 2021, 5:09 PM

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Apologies if this is the incorrect channel, I'm very green to HA and am struggling to understand if I've set something up incorrectly. I'm trying to extract the temperature from a weather object so that I can graph it together with my indoor temperature in a card on the lovelace interface. Googling suggested that my correct way to do this was to add a template to my configuration.yaml, and it does seem to properly create an entity with just the temperature, but when added to the history graph card it gets put as a new graph tracking 'degrees' instead of '°F', despite it being set to °F in its config

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I would share a couple screenshots, but I appear to be unable to post images

inner mesa Jun 5, 2021, 5:11 PM

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don't post images, post text

silent barnBOT Jun 5, 2021, 5:11 PM

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Please use https://paste.ubuntu.com/ to share code or logs. Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view.

inner mesa Jun 5, 2021, 5:11 PM

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specifically, the template definition

heady robin Jun 5, 2021, 5:11 PM

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sensor:

platform: template
sensors:
weather_temperature:
friendly_name: "Weather Temperature"
unit_of_measurement: '°F'
device_class: 'temperature'
value_template: "{{ state_attr('weather.thermostat', 'temperature') }}"

inner mesa Jun 5, 2021, 5:11 PM

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#templates-archived message

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I don't see anything obviously wrong with that

heady robin Jun 5, 2021, 5:13 PM

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/379l7v8q2snpbid/Screen Shot 2021-06-05 at 1.13.12 PM.png?dl=0

inner mesa Jun 5, 2021, 5:13 PM

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maybe the unit_of_measurement and device_class are fighting each other. You can try to remove the device_class

heady robin Jun 5, 2021, 5:14 PM

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I'm not sure where it's getting 'degrees' for the graph

heady robin Jun 5, 2021, 5:14 PM

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inner mesa maybe the `unit_of_measurement` and `device_class` are fighting each other. You...

I'll give that a try now

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when I initially put in this template, the unit_of_measure was 'degrees', and I switched it to '

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'°F' after seeing that it was showing up differently on the graph

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but the change to °F never seemed to propagate. Would some dependent property have been written when I initially added the template and not updated when I changed my template in configuration.yaml?

heady robin Jun 5, 2021, 5:17 PM

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inner mesa maybe the `unit_of_measurement` and `device_class` are fighting each other. You...

No change after removing and restarting HA

silent barnBOT Jun 5, 2021, 5:17 PM

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inner mesa Jun 5, 2021, 5:18 PM

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I'm not sure where it's getting "degrees", then

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actually, it is possible that it's getting it from the recorded history of that entity with the old unit, as you suggested

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that's probably what's happening

heady robin Jun 5, 2021, 5:19 PM

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is there a way to clear that? or perhaps I need to make a new entity?

inner mesa Jun 5, 2021, 5:21 PM

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there's no straightforward way to remove the history for a single entity. removing the template definition, restarting and adding it again may help. Or reloading template entities in place of the restart

heady robin Jun 5, 2021, 5:22 PM

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I'll give that a try, thank you

inner mesa Jun 5, 2021, 5:24 PM

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actually, there is this: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/recorder/#service-purge_entities

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I wonder if that's recent 🙂

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Ha, 14 days ago: https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/48069

heady robin Jun 5, 2021, 5:30 PM

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ahh, ok, I'll have to give that a try, as removing the template, restarting, adding the template, restarting left me where I started... probably picked the same data right back up from the DB

inner mesa Jun 5, 2021, 5:32 PM

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you might have to manually delete the entity from -> Entities if it still shows up as "Restored" when you remove it from your configuration. eventually the old data will age out

heady robin Jun 5, 2021, 5:35 PM

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If I'm understanding what you're suggesting correctly, manually removing the entity from there doesn't seem to be possible in the GUI; the checkbox I would use to select it to disable/remove an entity is greyed out, as it's read-only

inner mesa Jun 5, 2021, 5:36 PM

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the steps would be to remove it from your config, restart HA, see if it's still in configuration -> Entities, delete it if it is, add it back to your config

heady robin Jun 5, 2021, 5:41 PM

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ahh, well I checked my entities after removing it from my config before and it didn't show up in entities anymore, so that didn't seem to do anything. I think I've puzzled out how to purge the weather_temperature entity, and there's not a second graph showing now... though there's no outdoor temp data either, but I wouldn't expect it to have anything until it polls some new data

inner mesa Jun 5, 2021, 5:50 PM

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you can use homeassistant.update_entity to force it

thorny snow Jun 5, 2021, 7:20 PM

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has the friendly_name config option been removed from the new template sensor config? Am i suppose to set it in the UI?

dreamy sinew Jun 5, 2021, 7:29 PM

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#templates-archived message

fossil hearth Jun 6, 2021, 1:39 AM

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hi how to get last changed by name ... in template

dreamy sinew Jun 6, 2021, 1:40 AM

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on what?

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gonna need more context

fossil hearth Jun 6, 2021, 1:40 AM

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in HA it says last changed to xx by yyyyyy ...

dreamy sinew Jun 6, 2021, 1:41 AM

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for what?

fossil hearth Jun 6, 2021, 1:41 AM

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i need the last changed name of the person ( in the example that am trying is input_number)

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log says for example: Changed to 9.0 by Linn

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input_number.h8_mh this is my input number helper

dreamy sinew Jun 6, 2021, 1:43 AM

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i don't think that's stored on the state object

fossil hearth Jun 6, 2021, 1:44 AM

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so can it be extracted by template ? :/

fossil hearth Jun 6, 2021, 1:45 AM

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dreamy sinew i don't think that's stored on the state object

yeah i haven't seen it either anywhere , its only last changed and updated as in time ...

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can it be detected in events ? so an automation can pick up and say who updated last and what maybe ?

inner mesa Jun 6, 2021, 1:48 AM

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Should be in the context

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You can see the event in dev tools

fossil hearth Jun 6, 2021, 1:48 AM

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aha

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i have no idea ho to extract from context :/ but anyways if u can show me how to do it for an input_number.h8_mh as an example .. that would be great .. otherwise its fine i might be asking too much hehe thanks 🙂

dreamy sinew Jun 6, 2021, 1:55 AM

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it won't be on the entity, it'll be in an event that fires

fossil hearth Jun 6, 2021, 1:55 AM

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yes..

inner mesa Jun 6, 2021, 2:14 AM

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There are threads on the forum about extracting the user ID from the event

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Didn’t realize you were waiting for me to write it for you, since you suggested it in the first place 🙂

fossil hearth Jun 6, 2021, 2:26 AM

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Thanks alot man am looking into it ! ❤️

strange pond Jun 6, 2021, 5:44 AM

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Hello 🙂 Can someone please help me figure out why this simple code doesnt work? I'm just trying to apply a ratio to a sensor...

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platform: template
sensors:
ppfd_ubi:
value_template: '{{ ((states.sensor.light_ubi | float * 0.0014574)) | round(0) }}'

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the sensor it creates only returns 0

inner mesa Jun 6, 2021, 5:45 AM

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Your syntax is wrong

strange pond Jun 6, 2021, 5:46 AM

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i think that may be my bad copy paste job one sec, cant remember how to use the \ or //

inner mesa Jun 6, 2021, 5:46 AM

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unlikely. it's quite wrong

strange pond Jun 6, 2021, 5:46 AM

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https://hastebin.com/teqacefiwo.yaml

inner mesa Jun 6, 2021, 5:46 AM

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yep, still broken

strange pond Jun 6, 2021, 5:47 AM

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i basically copied it from one of the home assistant tutorials and modified it, i know almost nothing about code :

inner mesa Jun 6, 2021, 5:47 AM

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{{ (states('sensor.light_ubi') | float * 0.0014574) | round(0) }}

strange pond Jun 6, 2021, 5:47 AM

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ty ❤️

inner mesa Jun 6, 2021, 5:48 AM

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I see that kind of mistake a lot. states(xxx) is a function, you don't add filters in there

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you'll need to change the quotes

strange pond Jun 6, 2021, 5:48 AM

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remove the ' ' marks?

inner mesa Jun 6, 2021, 5:49 AM

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  - platform: template
    sensors:
      ppfd_ubi:
        value_template: "{{ (states('sensor.light_ubi') | float * 0.0014574) | round(0) }}"

strange pond Jun 6, 2021, 5:51 AM

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Thanks so much RobC, its working !!

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https://tenor.com/view/swordfish-hack-hacker-funny-gif-19079280

abstract tapir Jun 6, 2021, 3:45 PM

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strange pond - platform: template sensors: ppfd_ubi: value_template: '{{ ((...

Another way is states.sensor.light_ubi.state | float

inner mesa Jun 6, 2021, 3:45 PM

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so I get to correct people all the time 🙂

abstract tapir Jun 6, 2021, 3:46 PM

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inner mesa but not recommended: <https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/templatin...

Didn’t know this, I though it’s more straight forward. thanks!

silent barnBOT Jun 7, 2021, 12:08 AM

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@swift hill posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/42HbHKCCXt/

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Rule #6: Please do not post codewalls (text longer than 15 lines) - use sites such as https://paste.ubuntu.com/ (just not Pastebin).

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inner mesa Jun 7, 2021, 12:18 AM

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first, the templates should look like this:

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value_template: "{{ state_attr('light.family_room_family_fan', 'brightness') | int < 130 }}"

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it already returns a boolean

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second, those triggers require a transition that makes that template true. simply being "true" isn't enough

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third, it would help to have more detail on what's not working

swift hill Jun 7, 2021, 12:24 AM

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@inner mesa Thanks for the reply. I thought that the template evaluating as TRUE would be enough to act as a trigger.

inner mesa Jun 7, 2021, 12:24 AM

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Home Assistant triggers all work on state changes

swift hill Jun 7, 2021, 12:24 AM

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What do you mean by transition? Changing from one value to another? Because that's what I'm after.

inner mesa Jun 7, 2021, 12:25 AM

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you can trigger on any "brightness" change and then use a condition or template in the action to take instantaneous action based on the value

swift hill Jun 7, 2021, 12:25 AM

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Any time the fan speed (brightness) moves above 130 or below 129, I want it to trigger.

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Yeah, I think we're saying the same thing.

inner mesa Jun 7, 2021, 12:25 AM

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that template needs to start false and change to true for it to trigger

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so what's not working?

swift hill Jun 7, 2021, 12:26 AM

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Let me try your revised templating. Maybe that's the problem (though if it is, I don't understand why the template editor woudln't catch it). Hang on a sec while I try it out.

inner mesa Jun 7, 2021, 12:27 AM

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if might return "false" if it fails the "if" test and there's no "else" clause, but it's not great

swift hill Jun 7, 2021, 12:31 AM

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Yep, it was just my template that was the problem. Yours works.

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Thanks very much!

clever fable Jun 7, 2021, 1:13 AM

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Can anyone give me pointers on how to learn to get an automation for example to both turn a light on and off in a single automation?

silent barnBOT Jun 7, 2021, 1:14 AM

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@stark hare posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wf9drK3Mb3/

stark hare Jun 7, 2021, 1:17 AM

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If you have a MyQ garage door opener and want to add a sensor to display the status, I made a quick template for your to use. It's the link above this post.

keen sky Jun 7, 2021, 3:54 PM

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hello gents. Can I ask you for your help. I have raindrop sensor , which is connected to my NodeMCU on analog input and return me value in V - 1.0V . I want to have string for example when it is 1.0 to have 100, when it is 0.45 to return me 45

mighty ledge Jun 7, 2021, 3:56 PM

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keen sky hello gents. Can I ask you for your help. I have raindrop sensor , which is conn...

Use the compensation integration.

silent barnBOT Jun 7, 2021, 3:56 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/compensation/

keen sky Jun 7, 2021, 3:58 PM

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okay

thorny snow Jun 7, 2021, 4:50 PM

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what's the best way to test a "trigger"?? I am having issues testing automations in the template editor

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for example: {% if trigger %} FIRE ALARM!! {{ trigger.to_state.attributes.friendly_name}} reports {{trigger.to_state.state}} {% else
%} Unknown Fire Detector Alert {% endif %}

dreamy sinew Jun 7, 2021, 4:52 PM

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there would always be a trigger or the automation wouldn't fire

thorny snow Jun 7, 2021, 4:53 PM

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yes, however I am trying to test. what's the best way to test a "trigger" in the template editor

dreamy sinew Jun 7, 2021, 4:54 PM

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{% set trigger.to_state = states.domain.entity %}
Then add the rest in the template tester

thorny snow Jun 7, 2021, 4:55 PM

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interesting

dreamy sinew Jun 7, 2021, 4:55 PM

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where the domain.entity is the entity id of your thing

thorny snow Jun 7, 2021, 4:55 PM

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I've been attempting this: {% set trigger = 'sensor.time' %}

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so {% set trigger.to_state = sensor.time %}

dreamy sinew Jun 7, 2021, 4:56 PM

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no, states.sensor.time

thorny snow Jun 7, 2021, 4:58 PM

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hmmm I'm getting "cannot assign attribute on non-namespace object"

dreamy sinew Jun 7, 2021, 4:59 PM

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oh, {% set trigger = {'to_state': states.sensor.time} %}

thorny snow Jun 7, 2021, 4:59 PM

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oh, so this is setting an attribute of a "fake" object to a real one?

dreamy sinew Jun 7, 2021, 5:00 PM

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simulating the trigger object with the bits you care about

thorny snow Jun 7, 2021, 5:01 PM

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How can I add the from_state also?

dreamy sinew Jun 7, 2021, 5:01 PM

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add it to the dict

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but they would be equal

thorny snow Jun 7, 2021, 5:01 PM

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{'to_state': states.sensor.time, "from_state": ...}

keen sky Jun 7, 2021, 5:10 PM

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@mighty ledge i'm not sure , that can understand this compensation. I did try on template but not any changes

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https://prnt.sc/14k4oyn

mighty ledge Jun 7, 2021, 5:12 PM

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1 can’t be compensated to both 4 and 100.

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If the voltage is 1, what should the output be? 100?

keen sky Jun 7, 2021, 5:13 PM

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yep

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and if it is 0.77 to be 77

mighty ledge Jun 7, 2021, 5:14 PM

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Alright, then your second datapoint should be [0.77, 77]

keen sky Jun 7, 2021, 5:14 PM

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i don't know how they can be

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that is idea. In normal state is 1.00 v. if going down to 0.5 i have to recieve alaram

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but it can drop from 1.00 to 0.45 as well

mighty ledge Jun 7, 2021, 5:15 PM

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Just change the second datapoint in the configuration for compensation

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To [0.77, 77]

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It wasn’t working before because you gave it invalid data

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And there were errors in your logs but you ignored or missed them

keen sky Jun 7, 2021, 5:17 PM

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okay.

fallen oyster Jun 8, 2021, 6:23 PM

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how can I use a template to parse this json data from a MQTT payload to see if error: true https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pXcFyKTpkX/

jagged obsidian Jun 8, 2021, 6:36 PM

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value_json.state.flags.error is true

fallen oyster Jun 8, 2021, 7:13 PM

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but how do I integrate that template into an automation?

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under condition? use {% trigger.payload_json.state.flags.error == true %}

jagged obsidian Jun 8, 2021, 7:19 PM

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That's a completely different question now :)

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You use {{ }} for parsing

dreamy sinew Jun 8, 2021, 8:02 PM

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{% %} logic statements
{{ }} print statements

fallen oyster Jun 8, 2021, 8:13 PM

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so can I just put that logic statement as a value template in the condition of the automation, or do I have to do it differently?

inner mesa Jun 8, 2021, 8:14 PM

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You need to output something

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That something can be a {{ }} that returns a value like a boolean, or you have to use a string or {{ }} for each logic branch

fallen oyster Jun 8, 2021, 8:16 PM

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What do I need to output?

ivory delta Jun 8, 2021, 8:16 PM

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What do you want to output?

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A template with only {%%} around it outputs nothing.

fallen oyster Jun 8, 2021, 8:16 PM

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I don't need it to output anything

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I just need it to check if that condition is true in the json payload

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and then do the actions if it is

ivory delta Jun 8, 2021, 8:17 PM

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If it's for a condition, a condition template must output a boolean.

inner mesa Jun 8, 2021, 8:17 PM

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If you just want the boolean above as the output, use {{ }} instead of {% %}

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I just need it to check if that condition is true in the json payload

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Then do that 👆

fallen oyster Jun 8, 2021, 8:18 PM

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So I can just do {{ trigger.payload_json.state.flags.error }}

inner mesa Jun 8, 2021, 8:18 PM

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If that’s a boolean (true/false), yes

fallen oyster Jun 8, 2021, 8:18 PM

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yea, it is

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ok, thank you

bitter lagoon Jun 9, 2021, 1:06 AM

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Hey guys, so I made a helper input Boolean but it’s not letting me control it from Alexa

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Are input Booleans able to do that?

inner mesa Jun 9, 2021, 1:07 AM

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yes: https://www.nabucasa.com/config/amazon_alexa/

bitter lagoon Jun 9, 2021, 1:36 AM

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Thanks

cedar sequoia Jun 9, 2021, 2:05 PM

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.

inner mesa Jun 9, 2021, 2:07 PM

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!

cedar sequoia Jun 9, 2021, 2:10 PM

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sorry, was writing something on top of my laptop
anyway I want to set up a template that takes the the time remaining from Octoprint and tells me when the print should be finished. I feel this should be possible, i just have no clue what the math for that is

inner mesa Jun 9, 2021, 2:12 PM

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Depends on how it reports time remaining

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/templating/#time

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Probably something with timedelta

cedar sequoia Jun 9, 2021, 2:21 PM

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i... was expecting something more complicated, thank you

bright quarry Jun 10, 2021, 2:27 AM

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{{ trigger.payload_json.device == "1P7U5" }}
i have this condition template for this.

it's an mqtt payload trigger for a value "1P7U5" - is there any way to include multiple OR values (ex: 2P7U5, 3P7U5) alongside that in the same one liner?

inner mesa Jun 10, 2021, 2:32 AM

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Sure

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Xxxx in [‘xxx’, ‘yyy’, ‘zzz’]

pastel moon Jun 10, 2021, 9:10 AM

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I have this simple template https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/75thPk3grh/. Works fine, but can it be made to return both a value and a string? Like ['30', 'on'], and if so, how would I access the map(?) in scripts/automations...

mighty ledge Jun 10, 2021, 10:42 AM

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pastel moon I have this simple template https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/75thPk3grh/. Works fine, ...

You’re better off creating 2 template sensors or making the numerical value an attribute

pastel moon Jun 10, 2021, 10:44 AM

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Aha, ok. How would I go about creating an attribute then?

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This info will be used to feed a runtime-scene, so would be practical to have all info in same sensor/place...

daring shell Jun 10, 2021, 11:41 AM

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Hello, maybe I am not able to see the simple solution for what I want to achieve. I have a solar heated swimming pool with a couple of temperature sensors attached to it. I am interested in the efficiency of the system. Is there any way to show the temperature difference of sensor.temp1.now() vs sensor.temp1.oneHourBefore(). Any ideas on how to implement that?

jagged obsidian Jun 10, 2021, 11:44 AM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/statistics/

daring shell Jun 10, 2021, 12:06 PM

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jagged obsidian https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/statistics/

statistic.change - great, thanks!

trim leaf Jun 10, 2021, 12:42 PM

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Is it possible to, from inside a sensor template, do similar calculations like what can be done in state triggers for things like time to/from a state? I am trying to self contain something totally within a template sensor but this seems like it might not be possible

pulsar iron Jun 10, 2021, 1:57 PM

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Hi

inner mesa Jun 10, 2021, 2:01 PM

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@trim leaf If you define a trigger. See here: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/template/#trigger-based-template-sensors

pulsar iron Jun 10, 2021, 2:09 PM

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so i created a list of scenes in helper

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for lights to be set at specified colors

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now I think I need to create a template?

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i basically want to be able to use a philips hue dimmer switch, to cycle through the color scenes

inner mesa Jun 10, 2021, 2:11 PM

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You want an input_select

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There are forum threads with solutions for this

pulsar iron Jun 10, 2021, 2:13 PM

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i was having trouble finding a useful solution

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im a total n00b to all of this

wicked lance Jun 10, 2021, 2:16 PM

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can i make a template sensor which calculates the time a device was used on this day

inner mesa Jun 10, 2021, 2:17 PM

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Sounds like you want this https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/history_stats/

wicked lance Jun 10, 2021, 2:18 PM

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the thats exactly what i need

wicked lance Jun 10, 2021, 2:44 PM

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can i also get the time since the device was turned on?

inner mesa Jun 10, 2021, 3:00 PM

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last_changed: https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/state_object/

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and relative_time: https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/templating/#time

wicked lance Jun 10, 2021, 3:05 PM

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thx

sick orbit Jun 10, 2021, 5:12 PM

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Can anyone help with getting the syntax right to create a template (or template sensor) that returns a single value from a list in a sensor's attributes?

inner mesa Jun 10, 2021, 5:13 PM

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from a weather forecast, perhaps?

sick orbit Jun 10, 2021, 5:13 PM

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Precisely, sir

inner mesa Jun 10, 2021, 5:14 PM

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do a search here for forecast

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from me, even

sick orbit Jun 10, 2021, 5:15 PM

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Hmm, is there a trick to searching? I had already done that and I don't get any results from #templates-archived...well, I do now. The two lines from you just now.

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I've tried "from: RobD forecast" and get no results

inner mesa Jun 10, 2021, 5:15 PM

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#automations-archived message

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I'm "RobC"

sick orbit Jun 10, 2021, 5:15 PM

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Err, typo

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still no results, oddly

inner mesa Jun 10, 2021, 5:16 PM

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my search was: from: RobC#5132 forecast

sick orbit Jun 10, 2021, 5:16 PM

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Ah, didn't realize you had to include the number. Should have.

inner mesa Jun 10, 2021, 5:17 PM

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once you start typing the name, it gives you a list with the IDs

sick orbit Jun 10, 2021, 5:21 PM

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Awesome, got it. I was beating my head against it trying various of {{ states.weather.station_daynight.attributes.forecast }} throwing index(n) or [n] in along with the list item I was trying to grab. I haven't used/seen state_attr before.

inner mesa Jun 10, 2021, 5:22 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/templating/

narrow knot Jun 10, 2021, 7:37 PM

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how do I reload templates without restarting the entire server?

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https://community.home-assistant.io/t/what-happened-to-reload-templates/311357

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pretty much this issue i guess

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mine doesn't have it either: https://s.woet.me/cv3AcLF5uH.png

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and now after a server restart it does

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curious

inner mesa Jun 10, 2021, 7:42 PM

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You have to have at least one for the option to show up

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Otherwise the platform isn’t loaded

narrow knot Jun 10, 2021, 7:48 PM

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yea, i realised

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thanks!

fossil hearth Jun 10, 2021, 10:10 PM

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how to make this work? when the json has a dash inside . DS18B20-988FEF has a "-"
my_test_json.sn.DS18B20-988FEF.Temperature

inner mesa Jun 10, 2021, 10:10 PM

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["foo-bar"]

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specifically, my_test_json.sn['DS18B20-988FEF'].Temperature

dreamy sinew Jun 10, 2021, 10:11 PM

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or .get('foo-bar') or |attribute('foo-bar')

fossil hearth Jun 10, 2021, 10:11 PM

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i tried that ..

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lemmi try again

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get('DS18B20-988FEF') worked ! ❤️

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thanks

grand prism Jun 11, 2021, 1:32 AM

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Is there any documentation on things like selectattr or map?

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I cant seem to find anything, and google searches are proving to not be very helpful

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At the moment, I'm trying to join together a list of modified device trackers, changing their domain for their notification counterparts. I've got the list of device trackers, like so:
{{ states.device_tracker|rejectattr('entity_id','eq','device_tracker.silly_iphone_hub')|selectattr('state','eq','home')|map(attribute='entity_id')|join(',') }}

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I'm getting output similar to: device_tracker.a,device_tracker.b but I am trying to transform that into notify.mobile_app_a,notify.mobile_app_b

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Thoughts?

dreamy sinew Jun 11, 2021, 2:43 AM

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{%- set trackers = states.device_tracker|rejectattr('entity_id','eq','device_tracker.silly_iphone_hub')|selectattr('state','eq','home')|map(attribute='entity_id') -%}
{%- set ns = namespace(notify = []) -%}
{%- for tracker in trackers -%}
{%- set ns.notify = ns.notify + ['notify.mobile_app_{}'.format(tracker.split('.')[-1])] -%}
{%- endfor -%}
{{ ns.notify }}

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@grand prism

grand prism Jun 11, 2021, 2:45 AM

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Niiiice, I was actually almost there after figuring out how to use jinja.

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tyvm

dreamy sinew Jun 11, 2021, 2:45 AM

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np

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loops get funky with namespacing issues, the ns = namespace() gets around that problem

grand prism Jun 11, 2021, 2:46 AM

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Yeah, I was trying to get it to work with append a bit ago, but found a github issue where it is explained that it isnt possible by design

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End result works a treat, thank you again!

data:
  object_id: mobile_app_home
  entities: >-
    {% set list = namespace(notify=[]) -%}
    {%- for item in states.device_tracker|rejectattr('entity_id','eq','device_tracker.silly_iphone_hub')|selectattr('state','eq','home') -%}
    {%- set list.notify = list.notify + ['notify.mobile_app_' + item.entity_id.split('.')[1]] -%}
    {%- endfor %}
    {{ list.notify }}

dreamy sinew Jun 11, 2021, 2:54 AM

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np!

oak quail Jun 11, 2021, 12:38 PM

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How can I use a variable that is passed to a script in an if statement? Basically, I want to have one script that I can call with different parameters to let it do different things. I tried both https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rbGSZwQZJK/ and https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tRyGJk9cy7/ but without success, I guess because the state of the attributes isn't actually set when you call the script. How could I make this work?

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I called the scripts using this:

data:
  parameter: "test"``` in the dev tools service panel btw

inner mesa Jun 11, 2021, 1:52 PM

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You’re providing parameter as a string in the script. Remove the quotes around it to use it as as a variable

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@oak quail

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And value_template in the second one is missing the {{ }}

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And then further down you used parameter properly 🤷‍♂️

oak quail Jun 11, 2021, 2:08 PM

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I must say I'm a bit confused as to when to use ", ', or no quotes. Do you mean I need to remove the quotes around parameter in the is_state_attr('script.test_script', 'parameter', 'test') part, or around the parameter value in the service call? Because I tried both and they still don't seem to work

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I also put "{{ }}" around the value_template like this, as I saw in the docs that single line templates must be surrounded by quotes https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mrRgQwgP7K/. Could you confirm this is the correct syntax?

inner mesa Jun 11, 2021, 2:30 PM

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strings are surrounded by quotes, variables are not

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no, you're still not consistent

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alias: Test script
sequence:
  - choose:
      - conditions:
          - condition: template
            value_template: "{{ parameter == 'test' }}"
        sequence:
          - service: notify.persistent_notification
            data:
              title: Ja
              message: "{{ parameter }}"
    default:
      - service: notify.persistent_notification
        data:
          message: Werkt niet
          title: Nee
mode: single
icon: mdi:test-tube

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both are attempting to use the variable parameter, but you referenced them in two different ways

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actually, I have no idea what you're doing there

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edited above. is that what you're after? the parameters you pass don't end up as attributes on the script, they're just variables

oak quail Jun 11, 2021, 2:38 PM

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inner mesa actually, I have no idea what you're doing there

Okay basically, I'm trying to make a script that can get called with one variable, and depending on the value of that variable, different sequences are initiated. The code I have now is just to test out how to get this to work

inner mesa Jun 11, 2021, 2:39 PM

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ok, so does the above make sense?

oak quail Jun 11, 2021, 2:39 PM

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inner mesa ``` alias: Test script sequence: - choose: - conditions: - con...

gives me the error Message malformed: invalid template (TemplateSyntaxError: unexpected ')') for dictionary value @ data['sequence'][0]['choose'][0]['conditions'][0]['value_template']

inner mesa Jun 11, 2021, 2:40 PM

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oh, there's an extra paren

oak quail Jun 11, 2021, 2:40 PM

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check

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I'll try

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That works, awesome!

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Thanks a ton!

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The reason I added the ' ' around parameter in the value template is because it says so on the docs https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/templating/#states. Is this information incorrect then? @inner mesa

inner mesa Jun 11, 2021, 2:44 PM

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what part of that? None of those are variables

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that's the distinction

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string vs. variable

oak quail Jun 11, 2021, 2:46 PM

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Ahh okay then I think I don't really understand what variables are. Aren't they the same as attributes?

inner mesa Jun 11, 2021, 2:46 PM

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no

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variables (anywhere, in any language) represent some value

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attributes are specific to HA and are essentially additional data provided by an entity beyond the state

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https://jinja.palletsprojects.com/en/3.0.x/templates/#variables

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the use of "attributes" there is confusing in this context because those attributes aren't the same as HA attributes

oak quail Jun 11, 2021, 2:54 PM

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Gotcha! Thanks again, I thought they were basically the same (also inside Home Assistant) so that's were the confusion came from

inner mesa Jun 11, 2021, 2:55 PM

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it kinda helps to have written an integration or at least looked at the code for one

oak quail Jun 11, 2021, 4:21 PM

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Hahaha I don't have that luxury quite yet I think 😂

sonic nimbus Jun 11, 2021, 9:01 PM

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I have somw weird warning in my logs regarding rendering param input as template variable

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Template variable warning: 'source' is undefined when rendering '{{ source }}'

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here is my automation: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DKYp2YmM3D/

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I think is maybe a problem here at value_template:

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      - conditions:
          - condition: template
            value_template: "{{ not is_state(speaker,'on') }}"
        sequence:```

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can I actually do like this? speaker is avariable that comes into a script as field param

oak quail Jun 11, 2021, 11:46 PM

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sonic nimbus can I actually do like this? speaker is avariable that comes into a script as fi...

Using what I learned today, and provided that speaker is indeed a variable, I think you could use value_template: "{{ speaker != 'on' }}"

dreamy sinew Jun 11, 2021, 11:58 PM

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What is the value of speaker?

sonic nimbus Jun 12, 2021, 1:02 AM

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Just an ordinary string

dreamy sinew Jun 12, 2021, 1:38 AM

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What is the value specifically?

marble jackal Jun 12, 2021, 7:01 AM

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oak quail Using what I learned today, and provided that speaker is indeed a variable, I th...

That should be "{{ states(speaker) != 'on' }}"

mighty ledge Jun 12, 2021, 9:15 AM

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sonic nimbus here is my automation: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DKYp2YmM3D/

You actually have to provide speaker and you can't rely on default to populate it without providing it to the script.

rancid copper Jun 12, 2021, 9:50 AM

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Hi, I have a rain sensor that is linked to the irrigation system, if for example today it rained more than 5mm the irrigation does not start, the problem is that the irrigation is activated at 5 in the morning, so it does not take into account the rain since at midnight it resets, so I am trying to create a sensor that before midnight does a check of the rain that has fallen and activates it if it exceeds 5mm, but which then remains unchanged, is it possible to do such a thing? Thank you

neon laurel Jun 12, 2021, 12:57 PM

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is there a way I can reference the entity_id in the action field entity_id property for an automation?

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I need to grab the saturation for a light

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- '{{state_attr("light.desk", "hs_color")[1]}}'

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this works but I'd like to replace light.desk with a reference to the entity_id property so that I only need to change it there

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doesn't look like that's an option, the only documentation I can find is for trigger properties

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the issue is that I'm using a mqtt remote to control a HA light, so the trigger is not related to the light at all

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I think I can assign the entity_id in the trigger tho, I'll test that

regal valve Jun 12, 2021, 3:06 PM

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I'm trying to use an input_number in a scene to control brightness but it keeps telling me that it's expecting a float

  entities:
    group.lights:
      entity_id:
      - light.light_1
      - light.light_2
      order: 0
      friendly_name: Lights
      state: 'on'
      brightness_pct: "{{states('input_number.brightness_low_power') | float}}"```

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I've tried with "{{states('input_number.brightness_low_power') | int}}" and without piping it into int or float.

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always complains.

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Ok, I guess scene definitions don't support this kind of templating, never mind.

fossil venture Jun 12, 2021, 3:17 PM

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Yeah, templating is mostly reserved for script and automation services. There are a few places you can use templates in integration configuration, but they are explicitly documented as such.

regal valve Jun 12, 2021, 3:21 PM

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I didn't realize, seemed like you could use it almost anywhere from the examples I've seen.

inner mesa Jun 12, 2021, 3:25 PM

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The only universal truths are if you have a service call in an automation/script, the service can be a template and anything in a data: block can be templated. Anything else requires a specific support

teal cove Jun 12, 2021, 4:01 PM

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I'm confused about how timestamps work in HA. I live in Germany.
When I access a state object such as {{ states.device_tracker.dd.last_changed }} it returns 2021-06-12 13:39:42.516698+00:00.
However, when I request now() it spits out 2021-06-12 17:56:00.063892+02:00.
I get that both are compatible with each other in terms of calculation, but still: why?
Is something wrong with my setup?

inner mesa Jun 12, 2021, 4:07 PM

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All times in the state machine are UTC, while now() is intended to return local time

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/templating/#time

teal cove Jun 12, 2021, 4:10 PM

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Okay, so that's how it's intended to be.
I see, I could've noticed myself if I read properly lol. Thanks Rob!

inner mesa Jun 12, 2021, 4:11 PM

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Date/time stuff is my nemesis. I ask similar questions often and only manage by reading the docs and trying things

teal cove Jun 12, 2021, 4:27 PM

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😅

edgy umbra Jun 12, 2021, 9:35 PM

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Just created this template for my doors, anyone know how to change the history colorbar to a history log (open and closed).

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    sensors:
      custom_deuren_icon:
        friendly_name: "mdi custom deuren"
        value_template: >-
         {% if is_state('binary_sensor.voordeur', 'on') and is_state('binary_sensor.achterdeur','on') %} Alle Deuren
         {% elif is_state('binary_sensor.voordeur', 'on') %} Voordeur
         {% elif is_state('binary_sensor.achterdeur', 'on') %} Achterdeur
         {% elif is_state('binary_sensor.voordeur', 'off') and is_state('binary_sensor.achterdeur','off') %} Alle Deuren ‍ 
         {% endif %}```

inner mesa Jun 12, 2021, 9:37 PM

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make a binary_sensor instead of a sensor

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but you can't if you're returning strings like that

mighty ledge Jun 13, 2021, 10:15 AM

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edgy umbra ``` - platform: template sensors: custom_deuren_icon: friendl...

{{ expand('binary_sensor.voordeur', 'binary_sensor.achterdeur') | selectattr('state','eq','on') | list | length > 0 }}

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that template will be on/off if any doors are open

edgy umbra Jun 13, 2021, 10:17 AM

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Thanks Petro! The thing is i made a custom:button-card to show which doors are open. Because I want the Open/Closed states below the doorname i can’t use a template like that because it will show the state of the door instead of the name. So now I have a card that shows front door open, back door open or all doors open. 🙂

mighty ledge Jun 13, 2021, 10:18 AM

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{{ expand('binary_sensor.voordeur', 'binary_sensor.achterdeur') | selectattr('state','eq','on') | map(attribute='name') | list | join(',') }}

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that'll be the list of names

rancid copper Jun 13, 2021, 11:11 AM

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rancid copper Hi, I have a rain sensor that is linked to the irrigation system, if for example...

any idea?

fossil venture Jun 13, 2021, 12:13 PM

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rancid copper any idea?

You could just use the statistics sensor to get the maximum rainfall in the last 24 hours. If you need help with that pop over to #integrations-archived

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/statistics/

rancid copper Jun 13, 2021, 12:27 PM

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Thanks

rancid copper Jun 13, 2021, 1:17 PM

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fossil venture You could just use the statistics sensor to get the maximum rainfall in the last...

I was thinking that the real time rain sensor updates every 60 sec if there are changes, otherwise it does not update, maybe a statistics sensor would not be accurate, I also have a sensor directly from the weather station that automatically accumulates the total rain, it would be maybe more opportunun to find a way to take a data at a specific time of this sensor, what do you recommend?

fossil venture Jun 13, 2021, 2:40 PM

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Why do you think it would be inaccurate? Use the total rain accumulated sensor with the statistics sensor configured for a max age of 24 hours. That way you can always get the maximum value (it is the max_value attribute of the statistics sensor) over the last 24 hours. Be careful with the sample size. What is the minimum update period of the accumulated rain total sensor?

edgy umbra Jun 13, 2021, 4:57 PM

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Will adding Device_class: None to my template add a history log to a card (more-info)?

grim obsidian Jun 13, 2021, 5:29 PM

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  name: "Sun inside living room (Azimuth)"
  upper: 180
  lower: 80
  entity_id: sensor.sun_azimuth

- platform: threshold
  name: "Sun inside living room (Elevation)"
  lower: 25
  upper: 35
  entity_id: sensor.sun_elevation```
What would be the best way to combine these two binary sensors into one?

fast violet Jun 13, 2021, 5:49 PM

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hello. i'm looking to do an iteration loop in a script. i have a light that changes color based off of how many times you turn it off and on, and i'l like to automate that. i tried to create a script using the jinja tempate's {% for %} loop, but it errored on me: while scanning for the next token found character '%' that cannot start any token in ...

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is it possible to perform a loop N number of times in a script?

silent barnBOT Jun 13, 2021, 5:50 PM

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Please use https://paste.ubuntu.com/ to share code or logs. Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view.

inner mesa Jun 13, 2021, 5:50 PM

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you can't do that with a template. you can with a repeat: loop

arctic sorrel Jun 13, 2021, 5:50 PM

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And of course, now you've explained more, see https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/scripts/#repeat-a-group-of-actions

fast violet Jun 13, 2021, 5:51 PM

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sorry, @arctic sorrel. there's always more, isn't there? thanks for the link

arctic sorrel Jun 13, 2021, 5:52 PM

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It's why we have this bot message:

silent barnBOT Jun 13, 2021, 5:52 PM

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The XY problem is asking about your attempted solution rather than your actual problem.

This leads to enormous amounts of wasted time and energy, both on the part of people asking for help, and on the part of those providing help.

The problem occurs when people get stuck on what they believe is the solution and are unable to step back and explain the issue in full.

fast violet Jun 13, 2021, 5:55 PM

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i wonder if sometimes the reason why people are so hesitant to give any extra details in chats like this is because they know they're going to be chastised for something

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but thank you for the link. i can work with it

arctic sorrel Jun 13, 2021, 5:55 PM

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Taking 30 seconds to summarise your goals is rarely something you're going to get chastised for - unless you're in #the-water-cooler

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Everywhere else you'll just get told there's a channel for that, maybe with overtones of how did you miss it

fast violet Jun 13, 2021, 5:56 PM

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yeah. to be honest, i was more focused on picking the right channel to ask the question in. and i still missed it

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i didn't see a #scripts, and #templates-archived didn't stand out to me

arctic sorrel Jun 13, 2021, 5:57 PM

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The channel topics... are worth a read 😉

fast violet Jun 13, 2021, 5:57 PM

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i'm still learning, though. thanks for being patient.

ivory delta Jun 13, 2021, 5:57 PM

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Admittedly it can take a while to learn what's what, especially with such a complex application.

arctic sorrel Jun 13, 2021, 5:58 PM

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And then another release comes out and changes things 😄

fast violet Jun 13, 2021, 5:58 PM

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yep. and i don't plan on scanning every channel and memorizing the topics

ivory delta Jun 13, 2021, 5:58 PM

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But there's no chastising so far... not until you make the same mistakes repeatedly.

fast violet Jun 13, 2021, 5:58 PM

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i'm already in trouble with the wife for spending time trying to hack together a simple script to make our lives easier 😛

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so i removed the {% for %} stanza and worked with the repeat. saved the file. tried to reload the 'scripts' from the server control page, and it's erroring with the same error on the same line. there is no "%" on that line. is it possibly cached now somewhere?

silent barnBOT Jun 13, 2021, 6:06 PM

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Always run the configuration check command when you make changes. Don't trust the UI check - it misses some problems.

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Please use https://paste.ubuntu.com/ to share code or logs. Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view.

arctic sorrel Jun 13, 2021, 6:06 PM

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More a topic for #automations-archived though, if you're not using templates any more

fast violet Jun 13, 2021, 6:06 PM

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heh. ok. thanks again

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perhaps it might be templating afterall... it seems to be erroring on a line that is expanding a variable: Error loading /config/configuration.yaml: invalid key: "OrderedDict([('color', None)])" in "/config/scripts/colorsplash_lxg.yaml", line 166, column 0 (line 166 is line 53 in this paste): https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8CpPYz6cX5/

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i've copied the inovelli_led script and trying to make one for my new pool light

arctic sorrel Jun 13, 2021, 6:50 PM

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Quotes... you're missing quotes

fast violet Jun 13, 2021, 8:03 PM

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gotcha. i cleared it up a bunch, quoted, and got it working. thanks again