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glad moth Apr 27, 2021, 2:35 PM

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Would I need to change anything else in the value template or would the following work? - platform: template sensors: windows: friendly_name: "Windows Status" device_class: window value_template: >- {% set windows = ['binary_sensor.office_window_south_status', 'binary_sensor.office_window_north_status', 'binary_sensor.porch_door_status'] %} {{ states.binary_sensor |selectattr('entity_id', 'in', windows)|selectattr('state', 'eq', 'on')|list > 0 }}

dreamy sinew Apr 27, 2021, 2:41 PM

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should be fine, just verify in the template tester to see if its returning what you're expecting

rare panther Apr 27, 2021, 2:44 PM

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ah okay. Let me figure out whether the source can provide the full raw data - which I presume is roper JSON. Some stupid parsing is done before handing over to me

glad moth Apr 27, 2021, 2:44 PM

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Unfortunately, I'm getting this error when I put it in the template tester " TypeError: '>' not supported between instances of 'list' and 'int' "

inner mesa Apr 27, 2021, 2:58 PM

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|length

glad moth Apr 27, 2021, 2:59 PM

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This doesn't work either - platform: template sensors: windows: friendly_name: "Windows Status" device_class: window value_template: >- {% set windows = ['binary_sensor.office_window_south_status', 'binary_sensor.office_window_north_status', 'binary_sensor.porch_door_status'] %} {{ states.binary_sensor |selectattr('entity_id', 'in', windows)|selectattr('state', 'eq', 'on')|length > 0 }}

inner mesa Apr 27, 2021, 3:00 PM

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Sigh

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|list|length

glad moth Apr 27, 2021, 3:06 PM

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That fixes the sensor but it does not respond when a window opens. Does the template need to be : > instead of : >-

dreamy sinew Apr 27, 2021, 3:11 PM

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oh woops

silent barnBOT Apr 27, 2021, 3:26 PM

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@zinc fable posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/prK2mNnvqR/

glad moth Apr 27, 2021, 3:27 PM

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Unfortunately, the window sensor is staying "closed" even when I open the window

mighty ledge Apr 27, 2021, 3:29 PM

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glad moth Unfortunately, the window sensor is staying "closed" even when I open the window

that won't update on the fly

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only every minute

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if you want it on the fly:

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          {% set windows = expand('binary_sensor.office_window_south_status', 'binary_sensor.office_window_north_status', 'binary_sensor.porch_door_status') %}
          {{ windows | selectattr('state', 'eq', 'on') | list | length > 0 }}

dreamy sinew Apr 27, 2021, 3:33 PM

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ah i always forget about expand

glad moth Apr 27, 2021, 3:34 PM

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Do I keep value_template: >- It's still not updating on the fly

mighty ledge Apr 27, 2021, 3:38 PM

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Yes. It’ll update when the first window opens only

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After that, it’s always open until they all close

mighty ledge Apr 27, 2021, 3:39 PM

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dreamy sinew ah i always forget about expand

Expand is great now. I don’t makes lists anymore tbh

zinc fable Apr 27, 2021, 3:39 PM

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"{{ state_attr('weather.home', 'forecast') }} gives me lots of information, but I just want the condition cloudy, for instance. How would I go about doing that?

dreamy sinew Apr 27, 2021, 3:40 PM

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state_attr(...).whatever

glad moth Apr 27, 2021, 3:41 PM

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I still am not getting a response when I open a window with - platform: template sensors: windows: friendly_name: "Windows Status" device_class: window value_template: >- {% set windows = expand('binary_sensor.office_window_south_status', 'binary_sensor.office_window_north_status', 'binary_sensor.porch_door_status') %} {{ windows | selectattr('state', 'eq', 'on') | list | length > 0 }}

dreamy sinew Apr 27, 2021, 3:41 PM

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are any of the entities actually changing?

glad moth Apr 27, 2021, 3:41 PM

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Yes, I double checked that they are

dreamy sinew Apr 27, 2021, 3:43 PM

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put that template in the template tester and check the result

glad moth Apr 27, 2021, 3:44 PM

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the result is false even when I change the state of one of the windows

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Wait I got it, just a misspelling in one of the sensors. Thanks for the template help! All works now!

pastel moon Apr 27, 2021, 4:20 PM

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I am trying to make a template sensor to round to one decimal, but it won't. What do I do wrong please?

      hallway_motion_temperature:
        friendly_name: 'Hallway - Motion Temperature'
        value_template: '{{ sensor.hallway_motion_temperature | round(1) }}'

inner mesa Apr 27, 2021, 4:29 PM

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Your template is wrong

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/templating/#states-examples

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Best to review that whole page

pastel moon Apr 27, 2021, 4:31 PM

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Thanks, will do 🙂

pastel moon Apr 27, 2021, 5:06 PM

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This did the trick, but "friendly_name" still don't?

      kitchen_motion_2_temperature:
        friendly_name: 'Kitchen - Motion 2 Temperature'
        value_template: '{{ states("sensor.kitchen_motion_2_temperature") | round(1) }}'
        icon_template: 'mdi:thermometer'
        unit_of_measurement: '°C'

inner mesa Apr 27, 2021, 5:07 PM

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doesn't what?

pastel moon Apr 27, 2021, 5:08 PM

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It does not use the friendly name I set in the template

inner mesa Apr 27, 2021, 5:08 PM

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it might not like the "-"

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does it show up in the attribute list?

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what doesn't use it?

pastel moon Apr 27, 2021, 5:12 PM

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I think I have some leftover config I need get rid of... found some strange entrys so probably it

loud otter Apr 27, 2021, 7:22 PM

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Hi, I'm trying to convert automation from yaml to gui but everytime it is save it "produces" an error in formatting

volume_level: '{{states(''sensor.period_of_day_volume'')|float}}'

I change ' with " but at every save it is restored.

ivory delta Apr 27, 2021, 8:12 PM

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'an error'. What's the error?

sour acorn Apr 28, 2021, 4:23 AM

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trying to trigger at an input_datetime, whats the best way to write that

inner mesa Apr 28, 2021, 4:26 AM

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I’m not sure what you’re trying to do there. You can trigger directly on an input_datetime

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/automation/trigger/#input-datetime

sour acorn Apr 28, 2021, 4:26 AM

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oops

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let me try

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my mistake, sorry

grim flicker Apr 28, 2021, 5:54 AM

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@glad moth Why dont you make a group with those 3 sensors. something like:

group:
  doorsensor_group:
    name: three doorsensors
    all: false
    entities:
      - binary_sensor.office_window_south_status
      - binary_sensor.office_window_north_status
      - binary_sensor.porch_door_status

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If im correct when one of them reports open the sensor goes to open. only when all are closed the group will turn close

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I know this works with lights and booleans. never actually tested it on sensors though

frail dagger Apr 28, 2021, 12:44 PM

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grim flicker I know this works with lights and booleans. never actually tested it on sensors ...

I actually use this method with both motion and contact sensors for the alarm_control_panel integration.

frigid marsh Apr 28, 2021, 2:46 PM

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How can I validate a template based on last_changed?

I have sensor for which I have set scan_intervals at specific times in the day using automations, and it makes sense to only show those sensors during these times. Unfortunately using condition: 'time' does not validate (see https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6ZH5tY5X5R/), so I need to use another way. So since last_changed is relative to the scan interval automation, this should work...if I knew how to write it correctly.

Logic: Validate True/False if {{ relative_time(states.sensor.drive_to_work.last_changed) }} is less than 5 minutes. It don't know if using 'relative_time' is the right way to go about this, I just think it makes sense in this case - feel free to correct me.

mighty ledge Apr 28, 2021, 4:15 PM

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Relative time returns a string

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You have to calc it out yourself if you want a number without units

edgy umbra Apr 28, 2021, 5:20 PM

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Hi,

Anyone know how to get the min value from this template? {{ state_attr('climate.vicare_heating', 'room_temperature')}}

dreamy sinew Apr 28, 2021, 6:27 PM

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what is the output of that template?

inner mesa Apr 28, 2021, 6:29 PM

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I suspect that the easiest way to get a historical min/max for an attribute is to create a template sensor to surface that attribute and then use the min/max integration on it

ivory delta Apr 28, 2021, 6:35 PM

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cough statistics sensor cough

inner mesa Apr 28, 2021, 6:37 PM

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still have to get at the attribute somehow

ivory delta Apr 28, 2021, 6:38 PM

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Yes. I was disputing the min/max sensor part 😄

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Min/max exposes the min/max/mean of the current values, right? Not a rolling average based on history.

inner mesa Apr 28, 2021, 6:42 PM

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yeah, fair enough

edgy umbra Apr 28, 2021, 6:59 PM

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dreamy sinew what is the output of that template?

The output is like 19.5C. etc.

silent barnBOT Apr 28, 2021, 7:08 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/statistics/

dreamy sinew Apr 28, 2021, 7:08 PM

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Probably that then

ivory delta Apr 28, 2021, 7:13 PM

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What he said (but I said first 😄 )

edgy umbra Apr 28, 2021, 7:41 PM

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Thanks, that seems what i was looking for. 🙂

dreamy sinew Apr 28, 2021, 7:45 PM

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lol i forgot about that integration, only posting because if you mono

glad moth Apr 28, 2021, 10:19 PM

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grim flicker <@!131274849669611520> Why dont you make a group with those 3 sensors. something...

That is a great idea! I’ll give it a shot this weekend

fresh ibex Apr 29, 2021, 12:04 PM

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Hi, Im new to home assistant and ran into a this problem. When I use the round(2) syntax, it rounds the number to 2 decimal places but shows trailing zeros with 1 at end. (e.g. 72.24000000001) How can I fix this and why is this happening? thanks

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aircon_bill:
friendly_name: "Aircon Bill"
unit_of_measurement: 'PHP'
value_template: >

      {% set W = 0.56 | float %}
      
      {% set P = 10 | float %}

      {% set H = states('sensor.aircon_monthly') | float %}

      {{ W * P * H | round(2) }}

marble jackal Apr 29, 2021, 12:06 PM

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You are only rounding H

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use {{ (W * P * H) | round(2) }}

fresh ibex Apr 29, 2021, 12:09 PM

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marble jackal You are only rounding H

It works, Thanks man

marble jackal Apr 29, 2021, 12:09 PM

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Great!

oak tiger Apr 29, 2021, 12:11 PM

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Little help with proper way to handle this. I have 6 media players around the house. One one or more I usually play radio station. For each media player I need to check what radio station is playing (media_player media_title attibute). If it is specific radio station I need to call a rest sensor or url that will fetch artist and title for that radio station. And I would like to display this in lovelace. So I am brainstorming for whole day how to handle this. Maybe check for each media player if state is playing and then read the media_title from it. But what next. How to tell HA to go and fetch json data with artist and title for that specific radio station?

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This is my rest sensor that holds the data of the artist and title for specific radio station. But I do not want to refresh this sensor if nothing is playing on any of the media players.
https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZZFrvCZrp8/

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Maybe best way is to create automation for each media player that checks if it is playing. If state is playing, I would do a lot of if/else if to see what is playing. If specific radio station is playing then call service to update this rest sensor for that station every 5 seconds. Going in right direction?

thorny snow Apr 29, 2021, 12:22 PM

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I'm trying to setup a sensor in HA to display the current power of my solar panels. Huawei has this unofficial API where the data is available through a public kiosk mode XHR, but the JSON kinda sucks. Everything within "data:" is just a long string. Please see here:
https://eu5.fusionsolar.huawei.com/rest/pvms/web/kiosk/v1/station-kiosk-file?kk=oscxz8K15J

So. I tried to do a template like this:
{% set data = {"data":"the really long string here","success":true,"failCode":0} %}
{% set dict = data.data|replace('"', '"')%}
{{ dict }}

But, even though HA says that dict is actually of type dict i can't access {{ dict.realKpi.realTimePower }}

Any ideas why?

dreamy sinew Apr 29, 2021, 12:42 PM

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because top level might be a dict but values inside might not be

thorny snow Apr 29, 2021, 12:44 PM

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hm okay. Any ideas on how to get the realTimePower value then?

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This is what it looks like in HA: https://www.dropbox.com/s/yv9wpkb113jdbky/192.168.1.101_8123_developer-tools_template.png?dl=0

dreamy sinew Apr 29, 2021, 1:03 PM

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.share that instead

silent barnBOT Apr 29, 2021, 1:03 PM

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Please use https://paste.ubuntu.com/ to share code or logs. Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view.

thorny snow Apr 29, 2021, 1:05 PM

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So this is the object i get after replacing " etc: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3P6HPmcYxQ/

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and this is my idea of extracting the realTimePower value, that doesn't work:
https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/28ZpmNNxDb/

dreamy sinew Apr 29, 2021, 1:28 PM

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so the output becomes a dict, but it isn't at the point you're looking at it

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a simple replace won't turn it in to a dict

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this works

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{{ d.realKpi.realTimePower }}```

thorny snow Apr 29, 2021, 1:42 PM

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wow it did, THANK YOU! Ive been struggling with this for three days 😄

timid wolf Apr 29, 2021, 2:45 PM

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Hello everyone. I am having a problem with the output of the json table. There is a bus traffic site that can send data to a json table. I want in HA to display the arrival of the bus at the bus stop.

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platform: rest
resource: https://city.dozor.tech/iv-frankivsk/devices.json
name: bus_number
value_template: '{{ value_json[] }}'
json_attributes:
- longitude
- latitude
- route_long_name

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this returns the first bus in the list

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how to return the result with another bus?

thorny snow Apr 29, 2021, 2:50 PM

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on what criteria do you want to select the bus?

timid wolf Apr 29, 2021, 2:56 PM

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for example this

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{"imei":"353173064454000","gov_number":"197","route_id":"14B16FB795F5E70B99852BB3E0E05CFE","route_short_name":"7","route_long_name":"Тр. № 07 м-н "Каскад" - Європейська площа","route_type":8,"time":"2021-04-29 11:08:34","longitude":24.753315,"latitude":48.937415,"satellites":8,"speed":0,"spec":[true,true,false,false]}

thorny snow Apr 29, 2021, 2:56 PM

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it's an array of buses, so i guess you can access the bus by index.

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what happens if you do this for example: {{ value_json[3] }}

timid wolf Apr 29, 2021, 2:57 PM

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the same first bus from the list

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I did this option

mighty ledge Apr 29, 2021, 3:56 PM

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timid wolf Hello everyone. I am having a problem with the output of the json table. There i...

remove the .json from your url

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you aren't downloading the file

timid wolf Apr 29, 2021, 4:00 PM

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homeassistant.exceptions.InvalidStateError: Invalid state encountered for entity ID: sensor.bus_number. State max length is 255 characters.

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platform: rest
resource: https://city.dozor.tech/iv-frankivsk/devices
name: bus_number
value_template: '{{ value_json[3] }}'
json_attributes:
- longitude
- latitude
- route_long_name

mighty ledge Apr 29, 2021, 4:01 PM

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if you want it based on bus number:

  - platform: rest
    resource: https://city.dozor.tech/iv-frankivsk/devices
    name: bus_number
    value_template: >
      {%- set bus_number = 2 %}
      {%- set found = value_json | selectattr('route_short_name', 'eq', bus_number | string) | list %}
      {%- if found | length > 0 %}
        {{ found }}
      {%- endif %}
    json_attributes:
      - longitude
      - latitude
      - route_long_name

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yes thats more than 256 characters

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you'll need to figure out what you want as the state

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and the JSON attributes are based on json_path, so you'll need to figure that out

true otter Apr 29, 2021, 7:07 PM

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Is this the right place for a script that uses templates?

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I am trying to both a script and templates to set the volume on selected media players.

dreamy sinew Apr 29, 2021, 8:44 PM

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worth a try

timid wolf Apr 29, 2021, 9:15 PM

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mighty ledge if you want it based on bus number: ``` - platform: rest resource: https:/...

Thanks for the answer. That is, if I want to find a bus with "imei: "12345" then ... {%- set imei = 12345 %}
{%- set found = value_json | selectattr('route_short_name', 'eq', imei | string) | list %}

silk smelt Apr 30, 2021, 10:23 AM

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Hi all! I am trying to put some templates inside a package with a utility meter but I'm having problems with the formatting. Can someone help me out? I would appreciate it 🙂 https://pastebin.com/qDNXYvPG

past raft Apr 30, 2021, 1:48 PM

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Good Morning, I am newbie at HA. Are there basic config template I can use? I got HA install but curious if there were any sample templates to referene?

ivory delta Apr 30, 2021, 2:56 PM

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past raft Good Morning, I am newbie at HA. Are there basic config template I can use? I...

There are a few examples near the bottom of this page: https://www.home-assistant.io/examples.

spiral imp Apr 30, 2021, 2:58 PM

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I have a pretty involved template that sets "when" equal to a date - a date. If it calculated to -1 I want it to return "Yesterday". Will this work?

{% elif when == -1 %}
     Yesterday

dreamy sinew Apr 30, 2021, 3:12 PM

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have you tried testing it?

spiral imp Apr 30, 2021, 3:14 PM

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just tested by tweaking a value, thanks

lucid oasis Apr 30, 2021, 3:54 PM

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Is it possible to pass variables in to packages? https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/packages/ Jina2 has a with statement - https://jinja.palletsprojects.com/en/2.9.x/templates/#with-statement

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@silk smelt - File looks ok, just include it in under "homeassistant:" config , see example here https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/packages/

lucid oasis Apr 30, 2021, 4:24 PM

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I'm trying to find how to pass variables in a package and include one package file multiple times.

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For example - packages:
sm7822b_01: "{% with index='01', var_2='value 2', var_3=500 %} !include packages/home/sm7822b.yaml {% endwith %}"

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Gives configuration validation error - expected a dictionary for dictionary value @ data['packages']['sm7822b_01']

gray loom May 1, 2021, 11:59 AM

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im making a template for a fridge magnet, which device_class should i use? is it motion

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is there a list of device classes

ivory delta May 1, 2021, 12:04 PM

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A fridge magnet? 😐

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Not sure I'd consider that a device. More a souvenir.

gray loom May 1, 2021, 12:33 PM

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is there a way to change the state of an entity, i have a door magnet and would like my entity to show "open/closed" instead of "detected/clear"

ivory delta May 1, 2021, 1:17 PM

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There we go. That's the information you should have given in your initial post... what it is you're actually trying to show.

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Here's your list: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/binary_sensor/

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The device class opening is about... opening things, so open/closed.

fresh ibex May 1, 2021, 1:34 PM

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Hi. I'm planning to monitor our device usage for the entire month but I want the sensor to start and end at the 28th day of the month. I though I already got it since i got it to work for 3 days, but now its showing me unknown reading from the sensor. This is the code that i used

platform: history_stats
name: Aircon Monthly
entity_id: switch.aircon
state: "on"
type: time
end: "{{ (now().replace(hour=23, minute=59, second=59)).replace(month=(now().month + 1), day=28) }}"
duration:
days: 30

fossil venture May 1, 2021, 10:54 PM

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Not all months are 30 days long. Also what happens in December? Month = 12 + 1 ?

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 12:44 AM

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fresh ibex Hi. I'm planning to monitor our device usage for the entire month but I want the...

History stats can’t go into the future... you should be adjusting the start time to last months 28th day or this months 28th day if the current day is greater than 28. The end should always be now()

oak summit May 2, 2021, 2:58 AM

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I'm in need of help if anyone cares to lend a hand, I'm trying to figure out how to take a two variables (inputs from a blueprint), one with a time in it (ie 06:00:00) and one with a number of minutes in it (ie 60) and I want to be able to use the time variable minus the number of minutes.

In my searching I found this, https://brianhanifin.com/posts/home-assistant-date-time-template-macros/#subtract_time, but I can't quite figure out how to use it.

I tried to do it this way, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tTkrTVMSDy/

But throwing it in devtools / Template gives me TypeError: '>=' not supported between instances of 'int' and 'str'. I'm clearly doing something wrong, but I can't tell what.

dreamy sinew May 2, 2021, 3:08 AM

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Need to convert that date string into a datetime object and use timedelta() to apply the difference

inner mesa May 2, 2021, 3:09 AM

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perhaps something like this:

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{{ (as_timestamp(strptime(time, "%H:%M:%S")) - minutes*60)|timestamp_custom("%H:%M:%S") }}

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I don't know what types you'll get from the blueprint

dreamy sinew May 2, 2021, 3:10 AM

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But if you want to compare 2 dates it's better to leave them as dates

oak summit May 2, 2021, 3:11 AM

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No dates, just a time. So I think what Rob said there should work, I'll play with that a bit and that looks was easier to deal with than that macro thing I saw on brian's site

inner mesa May 2, 2021, 3:11 AM

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ok, so {{ strptime(time, "%H:%M:%S") - timedelta(minutes=minutes) }}

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this is a helpful section of the docs: https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/templating/#time

oak summit May 2, 2021, 3:14 AM

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Yeah, I have that up, I just wasn't sure how to do subtraction part across two different formats, with one being hh:mm:ss and one just being mm

sacred sparrow May 2, 2021, 3:23 AM

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sensor:

platform: template
sensors:
timer_ric3:
friendly_name: "Timer"
value_template: "{{ state_attr('timer.cook_rice', 'remaining') }}"

How come the timer doesn't count down?

inner mesa May 2, 2021, 3:24 AM

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because the remaining attribute is only set when the timer is paused or reset

sacred sparrow May 2, 2021, 3:25 AM

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ahh I see. How can I get the count down?

inner mesa May 2, 2021, 3:26 AM

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you can't, really

sacred sparrow May 2, 2021, 3:26 AM

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when I do "state" instead it just says "active" or "idle"

inner mesa May 2, 2021, 3:26 AM

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as the docs indicate

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is your goal to display it in the frontend?

sacred sparrow May 2, 2021, 3:27 AM

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it displays in the front end but I use "tileboard" to display on a different style of front end and it doesnt work there

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https://github.com/resoai/TileBoard

inner mesa May 2, 2021, 3:28 AM

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displaying a countdown is usually done within the frontend itself

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a more universal timer is one that you maintain manually with an input_number and an automation that decrements the value each second

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there's probably no way to user a timer to do it

oak summit May 2, 2021, 3:36 AM

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The template you gave me rob seems to have mostly worked, but (at least while I'm testing it in the devtools / Templates page) it's outputting it with a date, even thought my inputs don't have a date.

inner mesa May 2, 2021, 3:37 AM

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the first one?

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this doesn't: {{ (as_timestamp(strptime(time, "%H:%M:%S")) - minutes*60)|timestamp_custom("%H:%M:%S") }}

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the format at the end just includes the time

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if you use the second one, I think you need to convert it to a timestamp and then format it like this:

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{{ as_timestamp(strptime(time, "%H:%M:%S") - timedelta(minutes=minutes))|timestamp_custom("%H:%M:%S") }}

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but maybe there's a more direct way. There's no strftime

dreamy sinew May 2, 2021, 4:05 AM

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Timestamp custom is basically strftime

inner mesa May 2, 2021, 4:09 AM

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You just have to turn it into a timestamp first

oak summit May 2, 2021, 4:34 AM

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yeah I figured out what I was doing wrong there shortly after I sent that 😅 Now I'm getting errors when trying to import it as a blueprint, but I think I'm just going to go to bed first.

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On the off chance anyone feels like fixing it for me while I'm asleep 😂 here it is. I'll tinker with it more tomorrow evening. I'm pretty sure the issue is still related to the template part, since it says the issue is on line 87 col 18 https://github.com/fortepc/My-Home-Assistant/blob/master/Blueprints/SmartNightTimeCharge.yaml

deep citrus May 2, 2021, 5:16 AM

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any suggestions on how to format a number as currency using markdown / templating ?

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ie, include commas and prepend $

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ahh, found it 🙂 {% set total_x = "${:,.2f}".format(total_x) %} {{ total_x }}

ivory delta May 2, 2021, 12:09 PM

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deep citrus ahh, found it 🙂 ``{% set total_x = "${:,.2f}".format(total_x) %} {{ total_x }}`...

If you're not re-using that variable you're setting, just evaluate and return in one step:
{{ "${:,.2f}".format(total_x) }}

silent barnBOT May 2, 2021, 1:22 PM

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@gray quail posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Dvq3jXVcvz/

silent barnBOT May 2, 2021, 2:18 PM

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@modern geode posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VwstD8zBVZ/

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 2:18 PM

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the brightness and white values are never sent unless they are what was changed

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ahh thanks hassbot 🙂

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according to the device state in developer tools the brightness and white values are kept in the state correctly

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so I would expect them to always be sent along with the payload regardless of whether they've changed

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 2:26 PM

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@gray quailThat's probably the best way to handle it but you need to worry about crossing the year line and that should be added into your configuration. You'll also want to hardcode in your timezone.

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 2:28 PM

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thorny snow the brightness and white values are never sent unless they are what was changed

sent as in, when you send a turn on command or sent as in coming from the topic to the device?

gray quail May 2, 2021, 2:28 PM

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Yeah, was thinking about how. And solved it with an if block. It does the job, but there's probably a cleaner way.

      {%- if strptime(" ".join([pickup_day, pickup_month, now().year|string, '+0000']), '%d %m %Y %z') < now() %}
        {%- set pickup_year = now().year + 1 %}
      {%- else %}
        {%- set pickup_year = now().year %}
      {%- endif %}
      {{ strptime(" ".join([pickup_day, pickup_month, pickup_year|string, '+0000']), '%d %m %Y %z') | timestamp_local }}

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Still iterating over the code

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 2:29 PM

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sent as in: when I click a colour on the wheel, neither the brightness or white_value keys are filled. When I change the brightness, that key is filled, along with whatever the colour is at the time, but white_value is not; when I change the white_value, the colour and new white_value show up but brightness is empty

gray quail May 2, 2021, 2:30 PM

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Not all colors are sent, only the ones that change

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 2:30 PM

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{"state": "on", "rgb": [190,0,255], "brightness": , "white_value": 175
} <-- when I changed the white value specifically
{"state": "on", "rgb": [190,0,255], "brightness": 255, "white_value": 
} <-- when I changed brightness specifically
{"state": "on", "rgb": [127,0,255], "brightness": , "white_value": 
} <-- when I change colour specifically

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 2:31 PM

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gray quail Yeah, was thinking about how. And solved it with an `if` block. It does the job...

there's not really a cleaner way if you're coming from a string

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You always have to play the conversion game with time when it's a string

gray quail May 2, 2021, 2:32 PM

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thorny snow ``` {"state": "on", "rgb": [190,0,255], "brightness": , "white_value": 175 } <--...

You need multiple if statements for each variable

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/light.mqtt/#json-payload

Look at this example

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 2:32 PM

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thorny snow ``` {"state": "on", "rgb": [190,0,255], "brightness": , "white_value": 175 } <--...

Yeah, you have to pull the current brightness that's reported to the device if you want to keep the current brightness

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 2:33 PM

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that's what I started with. however the doesn't solve the problem that I cannot send something that is in the state

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 2:33 PM

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you've got if red is defined... etc. You'll also need a if brightness is defined

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and you can pull from itself

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 2:33 PM

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it should just always send what it knows about those values

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 2:34 PM

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it doesn't know anything about those values

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you have to tell it where to pull the values

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 2:34 PM

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according to the device state, it does

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 2:34 PM

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yes but you have to tell it to the template

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by using state_attr('sensor.xyz', 'brightness')

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 2:35 PM

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that's not anywhere in that example?

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 2:35 PM

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or light in your case

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that's part of templating in general

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to get the current brightness of any entity, you have to grab it from the state machine

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to access the state machine, you have to use the methods that exist

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 2:35 PM

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it's also not mentioned anywhere in hte linked template documentation

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 2:35 PM

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Yes it is

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 2:36 PM

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I'm looking at it

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 2:36 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/templating/

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 2:37 PM

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that is very unclear then

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 2:37 PM

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it's coding, you need to read it like an api

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there are so many possiblities that the docs can't cover it. It would be impossible

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so you have to 'read the api' and figure out the fringe cases

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this example here covers grabbing attributes https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/templating/#attributes-examples

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 2:38 PM

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I'm messing with that now yes

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 2:39 PM

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attribute's are literally limitless. You can name an attribute anything. Covering all examples would be impossible, that's where you have to read the method to get an attribute then figure out how to use it in the scenario you are trying to provide

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 2:39 PM

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but why don't I have to do that with the colour values then

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they always seem to work fine

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 2:40 PM

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because you have them in an ifstatement

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 2:40 PM

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..w.hy does that matter

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 2:40 PM

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you're always providing brightness and whitevalue

gray quail May 2, 2021, 2:40 PM

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"rgb": [190,0,255]

You've hardcoded this line

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 2:41 PM

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ah yes, that too

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 2:41 PM

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yes, I would also always provide colour

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so ideally I'd rip out all the if statements

gray quail May 2, 2021, 2:41 PM

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So when no color is provided "rgb": [190,0,255] is sent. That's why you always see rgb

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 2:41 PM

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and just get a bare json template

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okay yeah that is a good point

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you're right

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 2:41 PM

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I'd do it this way... (give me a sec to write it out)

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 2:43 PM

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  command_on_template: |
    {
      "state": "on",
      "rgb": [
        {{ state_attr('avea_proxy', 'rgbw.[0]') }},
        {{ state_attr('avea_proxy', 'rgbw.[1]') }},
        {{ state_attr('avea_proxy', 'rgbw.[2]') }} 
      ],
      "brightness": {{ state_attr('avea_proxy', 'brightness') }},
      "white_value": {{ state_attr('avea_proxy', 'white_value') }}
    }

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so in theory something like this should work

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provided I got the key structure right

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which I can check in the developer part

gray quail May 2, 2021, 2:44 PM

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You could test it on the template page

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 2:44 PM

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  command_on_template:
    state: "on"
    rgb: >
      {%- if red is defined and green is defined and blue is defined -%}
        {{ [ red, green, blue ] }}
      {%- else %}
        {{ state_attr('light.avea', 'rgb') }}
      {%- endif %}
    brightness: >
      {%- if brightness is defined -%}
        {{ brightness }}
      {%- else %}
        {{ state_attr('light.avea', 'brightness') }}
      {%- endif %}
    white_value: >
      {%- if white_value is defined -%}
        {{ white_value }}
      {%- else %}
        {{ state_attr('light.avea', 'white_value') }}
      {%- endif %}

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super simple, then you don't need to deal with json

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 2:45 PM

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would be nice, however the other end kinda expects it

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but yeah I got they key names all wrong so I'll fix that first

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 2:45 PM

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FYI this json:

{'a': {'b': 1 }}

is the same as:

a:
  b: 1

in yaml

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What I wrote will work based on your first template

gray quail May 2, 2021, 2:46 PM

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😱 I didn't know you could do it that way XD

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 2:46 PM

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if your first template worked as json, which it seems like it does

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json and yaml are interchangable inside yaml

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you just need to know how to change json to yaml

gray quail May 2, 2021, 2:47 PM

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Oh my,, got some work to do XD

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 2:47 PM

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listed items foo: [ 'a', 'b', 'c' ] are this in yaml:

foo:
- a
- b
- c

gray quail May 2, 2021, 2:48 PM

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Yeah I worked with JSON and Yaml for years... But didn't know it would convert the command_on_template, etc to JSON when sent

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 2:48 PM

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it should

gray quail May 2, 2021, 2:48 PM

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Let's test

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 2:48 PM

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okay that is very good to know actually

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because yes, that would make typing it out a lot less annoying

gray quail May 2, 2021, 2:50 PM

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It has to be a string according to the docs

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/light.mqtt/#command_on_template

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 2:51 PM

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I use this an an MQTT payload in my own automations:

    payload:
      args:
      - nodeId: "{{ node_id }}"
        commandClass: 112
        property: "{{ parameter }}"
      - set
      - "{{ [ parameter, value, bytes ] }}"

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so it definitely has to work

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 2:51 PM

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well, in theory YAML is basically a string

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so it should work the same as sending straight JSON

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 2:52 PM

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try it, if it doesn't work I can help you with the JSON version

gray quail May 2, 2021, 2:52 PM

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What schema are you using?

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 2:53 PM

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it does make it seem like it will fail validation

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 2:53 PM

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I'm having some trouble extracting the rgbw_color entries but I'll post what I came up with

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 2:53 PM

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gray quail What schema are you using?

That's in a mqtt.publish service call

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 2:53 PM

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yes

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ah there we go

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command_on_template: >
  state: on
  rgb:
    {{ state_attr('light.avea', 'rgbw_color') }}
  brightness: {{ state_attr('light.avea', 'brightness') }}
  white_value: {{ state_attr('light.avea', 'white_value') }}

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 2:54 PM

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does that work?

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you're missing a >

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and quotes

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 2:55 PM

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I'm plugging it into the config file now so I guess we'll see

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 2:55 PM

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command_on_template: >
  state: on
  rgb: >
    {{ state_attr('light.avea', 'rgbw_color') }}
  brightness: "{{ state_attr('light.avea', 'brightness') }}"
  white_value: "{{ state_attr('light.avea', 'white_value') }}"

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 2:55 PM

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yeah exactly, I caught that newline as well and it's really not necessary

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 2:56 PM

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FYI that won't work if you provide rgb, brightness, or whitevalue

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the version I posted should work with that

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worse case is you have to convert the template I gave you above into json

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this template <#templates-archived message>

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 2:57 PM

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ah okay, commas are still necessary and apparntly it did not convert to JSON

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state: on rgb: "(255, 72, 118, 100)" brightness: "99" white_value: "100"

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values are there though 🙂

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 2:59 PM

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aright, then:

  command_on_template: >
    {
      'state': 'on',
      'rgb':
         {%- if red is defined and green is defined and blue is defined -%}
           {{- [ red, green, blue ] -}}
         {%- else %}
           {{- state_attr('light.avea', 'rgb') -}}
         {%- endif %},
       'brightness':
         {%- if brightness is defined -%}
           {{- brightness -}}
         {%- else %}
           {{- state_attr('light.avea', 'brightness') -}}
         {%- endif -%},
       'white_value':
         {%- if white_value is defined -%}
           {{- white_value -}}
         {%- else -%}
           {{- state_attr('light.avea', 'white_value') -}}
         {%- endif -%}
    }

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 3:00 PM

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why all the ifs, btw

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 3:01 PM

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because if they aren't provided in your service call, then you add them yourself

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for example, if you just change the color... they aren't provided in the service call

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and vice versa

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so on the surface you just change the brightness but under the hood it sends the color brightness and whitevalue

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 3:02 PM

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ah small change

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 3:02 PM

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now you rpobably need to change the logic for the rgb and the whitevalue

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and use one or the other

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 3:02 PM

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the key containing the colour information is rgbw_color

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 3:02 PM

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ah

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ok

gray quail May 2, 2021, 3:02 PM

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command_on_template: >
  { "state": "on"
  , "red": {{ red|default(state_attr('light.mqtt_dmx_right', 'rgb_color')[0])) }}
  , "green": {{ green|default(state_attr('light.mqtt_dmx_right', 'rgb_color')[1])) }}
  , "blue": {{ blue|default(state_attr('light.mqtt_dmx_right', 'rgb_color')[2])) }}
  , "dimmer": {{ brightness|default(state_attr('light.mqtt_dmx_right', 'brightness')) }}
  }

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 3:03 PM

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ah yes, that would also work

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using default over the if statement

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probably a more condensed route

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 3:03 PM

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heck if that is the case I can just rip out white_value altogether since it's in the array already

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ohh that's a nice trick 🙂

silent barnBOT May 2, 2021, 3:08 PM

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@modern geode posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zyYs53M2mP/

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 3:08 PM

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wait for the link

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there we go

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that's the result for now I think

gray quail May 2, 2021, 3:08 PM

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You don't need the - in {{...}} blocks

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 3:09 PM

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yeah, probably. it came from the examples

gray quail May 2, 2021, 3:09 PM

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I think this still does not work as you wanted

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 3:09 PM

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I need to read up on jinja wrt the minuses everywhere

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 3:09 PM

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depends on what characters are between the {{ }}

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{{ }} , {% would require the -'s

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 3:12 PM

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ah yes that was to strip whitespace

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there we go

gray quail May 2, 2021, 3:14 PM

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@thorny snow RGB will never be sent. Because white_value and ( red, green, blue) are never sent in one message

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 3:14 PM

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a missing |list was all that was needed

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well, funny thing is, it will, because the light works in rgbw mode

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so the white value is automatically in that same list of rgbw_color

gray quail May 2, 2021, 3:15 PM

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Ah offcourse

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 3:15 PM

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therefore I can move the check into that section

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of course now I have to rewrite the parser, but I had to do that anyway

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{
  'state': 'on',
  'rgb':[255, 0, 191, 110],
   'brightness':199
}

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but that looks very neat

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and parseable, which is nice 😄

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okay now you're just showing off 😛

gray quail May 2, 2021, 3:18 PM

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Nah made an error 😉

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And I'm bored 😉

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Wouldn't it be easier to parse when sending all the values as a separate key/value pair?

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 3:22 PM

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doesn't really matter

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I need all four values together anyway

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        let bulb_color_w = that.settings.color[3] && that.settings.state;
        let bulb_color_r = that.settings.color[0] && that.settings.state;
        let bulb_color_g = that.settings.color[1] && that.settings.state;
        let bulb_color_b = that.settings.color[2] && that.settings.state;

I suppose this makes for some more consistent reading

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that.settings.state here is a bitmask btw

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just in case you were wondering what the hell was going on there

gray quail May 2, 2021, 3:24 PM

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let r, g, b, w = that.settings.color

JS is not my thing, but would this be possible?

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 3:24 PM

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in python I think so, but not in plain JS

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although EMCAscript 6 might have added something like that

gray quail May 2, 2021, 3:25 PM

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const [red, yellow, green] = foo;
console.log(red); // "one"
console.log(yellow); // "two"
console.log(green); // "three"

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 3:25 PM

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but my programming days are a bit behind me 😛

ivory delta May 2, 2021, 3:31 PM

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Depends if you're working with an array or an object but both can be 'destructured'. The syntax is just a little different for each.

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And yes, I believe those were introduced with ES6, so there's support for them on pretty much every platform/browser.

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 3:32 PM

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okay so yes, I guess I can do that 😄

dusty sluice May 2, 2021, 3:58 PM

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im finely get my rely to work, but dont like the card in HA. just have a button. I wolde like to have 2 arrow one for upp and one for down, but dont know how to creat it. i just have 1 entiy of it

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 4:07 PM

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you can create a vertical stack with two buttons in it

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and give each an icon and an action

silent barnBOT May 2, 2021, 4:09 PM

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@modern geode posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KqrKWtW4pZ/

thorny snow May 2, 2021, 4:09 PM

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something like that.

mighty ledge May 2, 2021, 4:22 PM

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dusty sluice im finely get my rely to work, but dont like the card in HA. just have a button....

#frontend-archived

weary drift May 2, 2021, 6:09 PM

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Don't know if this is the correct place. But if i have blinds (cover) that wont work with open/close but position works. Could i modify the entity card so that up sets position x and down sets position z?

astral pebble May 2, 2021, 6:14 PM

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Maybe #frontend-archived would be better for the card stuff, but if you want to create a new entity here is the right place

weary drift May 2, 2021, 6:15 PM

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Oh there's "Template cover". Didn't know that existed. I'll look into it first and see if it works.

weary drift May 2, 2021, 7:27 PM

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Works pretty good. Still the problem with if i open the cover the Up button is greyed out when i press stop. I guess i want it to say opening and closing until the position is reached. Now i set position 100 and if i press stop in the middle it's still at 100.

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Template looks like this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9F79RPr5rd/

ivory delta May 2, 2021, 7:41 PM

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It can't know whether it successfully opened all the way or not if you don't give it a value_template 😉

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It has to guess. You told it to go up, so it must have gone all the way up.

weary drift May 2, 2021, 7:42 PM

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Yeah that's true.

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I was thinking about making an ugly solution and set the values at 99 and 1 instead of 100 and 0.

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But since i'm giving it the "go to 100" how would a value_template check the position if it still thinks the position is 100?

ivory delta May 2, 2021, 7:45 PM

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Forget the template sensor for a moment. How does HA know the position of the cover?

weary drift May 2, 2021, 7:47 PM

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I guess it gets it from the device from the Local Tuya integration. If i set a position with the entity created by the integration it'll go there and i have it as an attribute at the entity.

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The original problem is that it's stuck at opening/closing and wont change the position status if i use the open/close commands instead of position.

ivory delta May 2, 2021, 7:48 PM

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Ok. Go check that. See if HA can read the position value.

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If HA can... use that in a template: #templates-archived message

weary drift May 2, 2021, 7:50 PM

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Aah right. I don't think HA can i'm afraid.

ivory delta May 2, 2021, 7:51 PM

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Then that's your problem. Computers are amazing but they need information to work.

weary drift May 2, 2021, 7:51 PM

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I checked the integration where the "current position" is supposed to be. But just "0" when i've set a value.

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I might get different result by flashing it with Tasmota.

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But the TuyaSmart app have the information. So it's the integration that does not get it.

ivory delta May 2, 2021, 7:55 PM

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The integration can only get what it's allowed to get. Lots of these cloud-based apps don't expose all the same information and functionality for other things to see.

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Tasmota/ESPHome is usually a better idea where possible, then you have full control.

weary drift May 2, 2021, 7:57 PM

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Yeah i need to read up on that. And if it works on the devices I've got.

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Thanks a lot anyway! At least i know in what direction to look.

hybrid spoke May 2, 2021, 10:41 PM

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Hello everyone!
I am trying to configure a Modbus device into HA and I am receiving messages in "ASCII"} for example, which need to be converter to decimal to show the real value 112510 could someone help me?

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I was trying to convert it first to hex because then i knew how to convert it to decimal and the best I came up with was {{ value_json.encode('ascii') }} but is not entirely converting the payload b'\x01}'

astral pebble May 2, 2021, 10:55 PM

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does from_bytes work?

hybrid spoke May 2, 2021, 10:57 PM

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as {{ value_json.from_bytes }} ? no

astral pebble May 2, 2021, 11:58 PM

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Do some research on the function to find how to use it and then see if it works

paper root May 3, 2021, 1:08 PM

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why am I getting a million template variable warnings

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    name: "APDS-Right"
    state_topic: "tele/OpticalUnit_F041D4/SENSOR"
    value_template: "{{ value_json['APDS9960'].Right}}"
    payload_on: "1"
    off_delay: 3
    device_class: moving```

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if its some helper feature like I saw how can I disable that

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Since its really annoying

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No I cant change it to be multiple topics so dont recommend me that, im using tasmota

paper root May 3, 2021, 1:30 PM

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The problem I have is that tasmota has 2 modes for the APDS-9960

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Gesture mode and rgbc+lx mode

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so if I change modes the gesture message basically dissapears in the next message

viscid vigil May 3, 2021, 1:44 PM

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Hey, afternoon. I'm using a command_line switch to control a wifi switch via an API. I can get the Command on and command off to work fine as it uses a PUT request and passes "data" -d. however, the state command requires data from a GET request. Short version is, can I use home assistant attribute values in a GET request (within the URL) ? The put is working but the GET isn't (the put doesn't require the attribute value in the URL, the GET does)

pastel moon May 3, 2021, 2:08 PM

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Is there a better way to define this? I basically want "sensors" for 'Day, Soft & Night'

Day: condition: "{{ states('sensor.daylight'), 'golden_hour_1' | 'solar_noon' | 'golden_hour_2' }}"
Soft: condition: "{{ states('sensor.daylight'), 'sunrise_start' | 'sunrise_end' | 'sunset_start' | 'sunset_end' }}"
Night: condition: "{{ states('sensor.daylight'), 'dusk' | 'nautical_dusk' | 'night_start' | 'nadir' | 'nautical_dawn' | 'dawn' }}"

paper root May 3, 2021, 2:19 PM

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im giving up this is impossible

dreamy sinew May 3, 2021, 2:35 PM

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@pastel moon what are you trying to accomplish? What is the expected output of this?

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@paper root is that key flipping in and out of that payload? If so, seems like a poor implementation on the other side and you're just kinda stuck with it

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might be able to hack around it but its still a hack

paper root May 3, 2021, 2:37 PM

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yeah its flipping in and out of payload

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APDS_9960 has 2 modes in tasmota

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Gesture and sensor

dreamy sinew May 3, 2021, 2:38 PM

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you'll have a bad time integrating directly then

paper root May 3, 2021, 2:38 PM

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any other way I could do that?

dreamy sinew May 3, 2021, 2:38 PM

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create a sensor from the full payload, an automation that posts to new mqtt topics for both keys, sensors that watch those new topics

paper root May 3, 2021, 2:39 PM

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yeah nevermind

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seems like a shoddy implementation to me so ill figure something out

dreamy sinew May 3, 2021, 2:42 PM

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the shoddy side is on the end device

pastel moon May 3, 2021, 2:45 PM

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dreamy sinew <@!830759003134099467> what are you trying to accomplish? What is the expected o...

I want to reuse these in different automations and simply wonder if it can be defined in one place and the called, as a sensor for instance

paper root May 3, 2021, 3:04 PM

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dreamy sinew the shoddy side is on the end device

I am using a rule that publishes the gestures to another topic, its probably fixed now

edgy umbra May 3, 2021, 5:24 PM

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Anyone see whats wrong with this template? 🙂

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    if (states['light.designlamp'].state == "unavailable") return 'Niet Beschikbaar';
    else return 'Helderheid: ' + [Math.round](states['light.tvlamp'].attributes.brightness / 2.55) +  '%';
  ]]]```

dreamy sinew May 3, 2021, 5:26 PM

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its not a template as it sits

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also you're mixing things all over the place

inner mesa May 3, 2021, 5:26 PM

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I'm not a JS guy, but this looks weird: [Math.round](states['light.tvlamp'].attributes.brightness / 2.55)

edgy umbra May 3, 2021, 5:27 PM

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Yep there is a problem but can't seem to figure it out

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This is the original which works fine but i want to add a else state...

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  [[[
    var bri = states['light.tvlamp'].attributes.brightness;
    return 'Helderheid: ' + (bri ? Math.round(bri / 2.55) : '0') + '%';
  ]]]```

ivory delta May 3, 2021, 5:28 PM

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The problem is that it's not valid JS 🤷‍♂️

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Math.round(number) is a function. That backasswards syntax you've written isn't even JS.

edgy umbra May 3, 2021, 5:30 PM

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I want to have the brightness but if the state of that light is unavailable i want to have "Not Available" instead of the brightness

ivory delta May 3, 2021, 5:31 PM

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We know.

edgy umbra May 3, 2021, 5:31 PM

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🙂

ivory delta May 3, 2021, 5:31 PM

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Your intent is clear. Your JS is... terrible.

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return (states['light.designlamp'].state == "unavailable") ? 'Niet Beschikbaar' : `Helderheid: ${Math.round(states['light.tvlamp'].attributes.brightness / 2.55)}%`;```

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That's a one-liner, btw. Don't go adding line breaks.

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I don't know how the cards handle random line breaks.

edgy umbra May 3, 2021, 5:32 PM

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I have added this but now it says brightness: NaN%

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  [[[
    return (states['light.designlamp'].state == "unavailable") ? 'Niet Beschikbaar' : `Helderheid: ${Math.round(states['light.tvlamp'].attributes.brightness / 2.55)}%`;
  ]]]```

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It's for the custom:button-card

ivory delta May 3, 2021, 5:34 PM

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Then you need to break it down and see why Math.round(states['light.tvlamp'].attributes.brightness / 2.55) isn't a number.

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I'd guess if the light is off, it has no brightness...

edgy umbra May 3, 2021, 5:35 PM

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Normally it says brightness: 0% if it's off, just tested with the light on but still give NaN%

ivory delta May 3, 2021, 5:36 PM

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🤷‍♂️

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states['light.tvlamp'].attributes.brightness can't be a number or that would work fine.

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Forget the UI. Check the Dev Tools.

edgy umbra May 3, 2021, 5:36 PM

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Thanks going to check it there. 🙂

ivory delta May 3, 2021, 5:38 PM

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edgy umbra ```label: | [[[ var bri = states['light.tvlamp'].attributes.brightness; ...

Looks like you already had this issue judging by the ternary expression in your first attempt...

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Makes me wonder why you didn't just write the rest with ternary too 🤷‍♂️

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Or this for simplicity:

return (states['light.designlamp'].state == "unavailable") 
  ? 'Niet Beschikbaar' 
  : `Helderheid: ${Math.round((states['light.tvlamp'].attributes.brightness || 0) / 2.55)}%`;```

edgy umbra May 3, 2021, 5:40 PM

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To be honest, i have zero js knowledge and just trying to build on excisting code, that's also the reason why i strugle so hard with this. 🙂

ivory delta May 3, 2021, 5:40 PM

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Default the brightness to 0 so it doesn't explode Math.round()

hybrid spoke May 3, 2021, 5:41 PM

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Hello everyone!
I am trying to configure a Modbus device into HA and I am receiving messages in "ASCII"} for example, which need to be converter to decimal to show the real value 112510 could someone help me?
I was trying to convert it first to hex because then i knew how to convert it to decimal and the best I came up with was {{ value_json.encode('ascii') }} but is not entirely converting the payload b'\x01}'

edgy umbra May 3, 2021, 5:43 PM

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ivory delta Default the brightness to 0 so it doesn't explode `Math.round()`

Just added it and it don't give any errors but the brightness keeps at 0%.

ivory delta May 3, 2021, 5:45 PM

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I told you already. It's because states['light.tvlamp'].attributes.brightness isn't a number. You need to figure out why.

edgy umbra May 3, 2021, 5:46 PM

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Ok i'm going to try find out how i can solve that. Thanks for your help.

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Got it working with this, now i only need to figure out how to round the brightness. Because now it's at 55% and it shows like 140. 🙂

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    if (states['light.designlamp'].state == "unavailable") return 'Niet beschikbaar';
    else return 'brightness: ' + states['light.designlamp'].attributes.brightness;
  ]]]```

ivory delta May 3, 2021, 5:58 PM

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Well... that's just maths again...

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But if it's not a number, it's likely to blow up 🤯

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Humour me... use this as your template instead:
return typeof states['light.designlamp'].attributes.brightness;

coarse blaze May 3, 2021, 6:03 PM

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@hybrid spoke i would be interest to know how you gonna figuer out to decode ascii to decimal, im assuming thatyou will need to convert to hex and then dec {{ value_json.encode('ascii') }}
wondering why you get those b'\x01}'

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dont think that would be easy to do it

edgy umbra May 3, 2021, 6:18 PM

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ivory delta But if it's not a number, it's likely to blow up 🤯

Got it working! 🙂

ivory delta May 3, 2021, 6:27 PM

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Would you like to share how?

dreamy sinew May 3, 2021, 6:27 PM

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nah, gotta go full stackoverflow in here

frank gale May 3, 2021, 6:29 PM

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@edgy umbra in which programming language is that?

dreamy sinew May 3, 2021, 6:30 PM

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this is JS

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not anything to do with "templates" as used by automations etc

edgy umbra May 3, 2021, 6:32 PM

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Sorry about that, i thought this was also a template.

dreamy sinew May 3, 2021, 6:32 PM

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this stuff typically goes in #frontend-archived

edgy umbra May 3, 2021, 6:34 PM

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Thanks i will post anything related to this in frontend next time.

frank gale May 3, 2021, 6:34 PM

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So I have a MQTT topic /this/that/there
The: /this/that is always the same, only /there changes. Can I use a template that listens to /this/that and add a list o attributes to a sensor like:
`- there1 : attributes

there2: attributes `
etc ?

ivory delta May 3, 2021, 6:35 PM

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Templates don't listen to topics. Integrations do.

frank gale May 3, 2021, 6:35 PM

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then i got to integrations 😄

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*go

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or where I ask about a sensor template question?

ivory delta May 3, 2021, 6:43 PM

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If it's about the sensor, #integrations-archived. If it's about a template that the sensor uses, #templates-archived

frank gale May 3, 2021, 6:47 PM

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Then I'm in the right place, I need a template for my sensor, I already wrote that 😄

ivory delta May 3, 2021, 6:53 PM

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🤦‍♂️

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Templates don't do what you're asking for.

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Templates don't fetch information from MQTT...

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Sensors do that 😉

inner mesa May 3, 2021, 6:57 PM

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perhaps this will help: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/mqtt-sensor-how-to-load-attributes/212523

ivory delta May 3, 2021, 6:58 PM

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You mean they should use a sensor? 🤯

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#integrations-archived, thanks. Off you go, @frank gale

frank gale May 3, 2021, 7:10 PM

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thanks!

marble trench May 3, 2021, 8:20 PM

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I could use some assistance. I am trying to add the workday sensor, and I am getting this error when I validate my config "Platform error sensor.workday - No module named 'homeassistant.components.workday.sensor'"

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I added the following to my binary_sensors.yaml

platform: workday
country: US

ivory delta May 3, 2021, 8:25 PM

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It sounds like you added it to your sensors, not binary sensors.

inner mesa May 3, 2021, 8:25 PM

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It looks like you put it under sensor:

marble trench May 3, 2021, 8:27 PM

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Wow, thanks so much. I had originally put it in sensors and then moved it to Binary after realizing that it needed to be there. Apparently never saved the sensors.yaml to commit the changes. Guess that was an hour of googling wasted.

ivory delta May 3, 2021, 8:29 PM

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It happens

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I don't want to admit how many hours I've spent troubleshooting typos.

true otter May 4, 2021, 12:59 AM

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hey guys is the such a thing as an input_select template?

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I am trying to create a single Input_select template entity for all my sonos players. I have come up with this template: media_player: - platform: template media_players: current_source_template: "{{ states('input_select.media_player') }}" data_template: > {% if is_state("input_select.media_player", "Office Sonos") %} media_player.sonos_connect {% elif is_state("input_select.media_player", "Kitchen/Dining Sonos") %} media_player.kitchen_dining {% elif is_state("input_select.media_player", "Patio Sonos") %} media_player.patio {% elif is_state("input_select.media_player", "Denon AVR-X4500H") %} media_player.denon_avr_x4500h {% elif is_state("input_select.media_player", "Jeffery") %} media_player.googlehome1790 {% endif %}, but I don't know how to test it an make sure it works and it is not showing up in Dev-Tools.

thorny snow May 4, 2021, 1:32 AM

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Good evening all. Looking for assistance on a template This pulls the condition from NWS. I'd like to evaluate this to see if "rainy" = true. Not quite sure how to achive that. {{ state_attr('weather.korh_daynight', 'forecast')[0].condition }}

ivory delta May 4, 2021, 11:11 AM

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thorny snow Good evening all. Looking for assistance on a template This pulls the conditi...

{{ state_attr('weather.korh_daynight', 'forecast')[0].condition == 'rainy' }}

warm isle May 4, 2021, 12:55 PM

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I always forget how to handle timestamps.
I try to get a sensor up wich is showing me in how many hours I got until the lights turn on (in the hope that I see the number and go into the bed out of fear of the short night. but I currently fail to get a timestamp (where I can substract ``now()` from) out of my sensor.
currently so far

{{( ((now()+timedelta(days=1)).strftime("%Y-%m-%d ") ) + strptime( states('sensor.alarm_time1'), '%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S.%f') ) }}```
== 2021-05-05 06:36 
  (i know, adding a day to it is'nt even a good idea, but currently the only one I got)

adding `.timestamp()` after does not work as expected

fast mason May 4, 2021, 1:53 PM

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The filter option for logger: uses regex right?

copper seal May 4, 2021, 2:01 PM

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Hello guys, quick question: regex_search("<enabled>true</enabled>\n<normalizedScreenSize>") is it the break line correct?

dreamy sinew May 4, 2021, 3:35 PM

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i always find it useful to test regex via regex101.com

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make it work there and then use what you work out

main vortex May 4, 2021, 7:07 PM

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Is there a generic way to get the parent device of an entity? e.g. the parent camera entity for a binary_sensor. Use case is to setup a motion trigger for a camera's binary sensor motion entity and resolve the related camera to send a push notification.

ivory delta May 4, 2021, 7:09 PM

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Not directly. The information you're after can be retrieved via the API but that's a faff. Are the names of your entities similar enough that you can just match them by patterns?

main vortex May 4, 2021, 7:09 PM

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Probably, but I was hoping for something more robust.

ivory delta May 4, 2021, 7:09 PM

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If they follow a systematic naming convention, that's going to be simpler.

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I'd say this is the robust way. Fewer pieces to get wrong.

main vortex May 4, 2021, 7:10 PM

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I'll give that a shot 🙂

oak summit May 4, 2021, 9:01 PM

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How do I combine these two seperate true false checks into a single one that only outputs true if they're both true?

{{ state_attr('media_player.living_room_tv', 'app_name') == "Netflix" }}
{{ is_state('media_player.living_room_tv', "playing") }}

gray quail May 4, 2021, 9:10 PM

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I've got a webscraper that gets the day and month the trash is collected. I've extracted the value and constructed a DateTime. Would I save this as the state, or am I missing something?

ivory delta May 4, 2021, 9:10 PM

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oak summit How do I combine these two seperate true false checks into a single one that onl...

Put an 'and' between them 😄

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{{ state_attr('media_player.living_room_tv', 'app_name') == "Netflix" and is_state('media_player.living_room_tv', "playing") }}

trail ginkgo May 5, 2021, 2:00 AM

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I'm trying to create a reusable "battery level" icon_template, but when defining this as part of a sensor configuration ... how do i refer to the value of the sensor itself inside the icon_template ?

night warren May 5, 2021, 8:19 AM

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Quick question....I want to use the current time in a notification

data: message: 'Test at {{now().hour}}:{{now().minute}}' data: timeout: 20

But the minute doesn't show as 02, 03 etc. When it is single digit minutes of the hour.

trail ginkgo May 5, 2021, 8:21 AM

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I believe you should look at strftime

night warren May 5, 2021, 8:21 AM

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Ta!

pastel moon May 5, 2021, 2:50 PM

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I need a condition for a template sensor and have tried this

condition: "{{ is_state('sensor.period_of_day', 'dawn' | 'night') }}"

which did not work. I have tried to search for a hint... Please help

charred dagger May 5, 2021, 2:55 PM

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Try is_state(..., 'dawn') || is_state(..., 'night')

pastel moon May 5, 2021, 2:56 PM

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Ah, thanks! Will do

dreamy sinew May 5, 2021, 2:58 PM

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or states(...) in ['dawn', 'night']

pastel moon May 5, 2021, 2:59 PM

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That is niice! Like it! Thanks! 🙂

bleak trail May 5, 2021, 4:01 PM

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How to format date object to dd-mm-yyyy, currently in HA it is showing in ISO format yyyy-mm-dd?

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I'm using config-template-card to create the graph

mighty ledge May 5, 2021, 4:03 PM

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Depends where you see that date

bleak trail May 5, 2021, 4:05 PM

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type: 'custom:config-template-card' variables: DATE: 'states[''sensor.eloverblik_energy_total''].attributes.metering_date' card: type: 'custom:mini-graph-card' name: '${"Strømforbrug d. " + DATE}'

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I would like to do date formatting on DATE variable

mighty ledge May 5, 2021, 4:07 PM

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You have 2 options, format the date using js or make a template sensor that pulls the date from the attribute and formats it using python/jinja

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In both cases you’ll need to make a datetime object or timestamp then convert that to a date string

bleak trail May 5, 2021, 4:09 PM

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Do you have a link on how to add JS in template ?

ivory delta May 5, 2021, 6:34 PM

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You already know how:
name: '${"Strømforbrug d. " + DATE}'

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This is template literal: ${}. Anything you do inside those curly braces can use JavaScript.

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@bleak trail https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Template_literals

patent flame May 5, 2021, 7:24 PM

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How to avoid 0 value when unavailable entity?

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It should not have dot instead of 0 value...

jagged obsidian May 5, 2021, 7:25 PM

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0 value in lovelace or ?

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what's the use case?

dreamy sinew May 5, 2021, 7:29 PM

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"unavailable"|float -> 0

patent flame May 5, 2021, 7:45 PM

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jagged obsidian what's the use case?

History graph

patent flame May 5, 2021, 7:45 PM

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dreamy sinew `"unavailable"|float` -> `0`

How to avoid that?

ivory delta May 5, 2021, 7:46 PM

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You want to skip that datapoint instead of treating it as zero?

stiff fjord May 5, 2021, 7:59 PM

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hey, is there any possibility to iterate in a template only over the entities of a specific integration?

dreamy sinew May 5, 2021, 8:03 PM

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integration is not typically known by the state object

bleak trail May 5, 2021, 8:39 PM

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Thx @ivory delta , I have changed my lovelace mode to YAML and added following code to name:
name: > {% set date = as_timestamp(strptime(state_attr('sensor.eloverblik_energy_total', 'metering_date'), "")) %} {{date | timestamp_custom('%a, %d %b %Y')}}
But the result is just code and when I try it in Developer Tools it shows correct out -> "Tue, 04 May 2021"

ivory delta May 5, 2021, 8:41 PM

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Well that's Jinja... you can't use Jinja in the frontend.

bleak trail May 5, 2021, 8:42 PM

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doesn't Jinja run in templates?

ivory delta May 5, 2021, 8:43 PM

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In the backend, sure.

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In Lovelace... nope.

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Your browser doesn't understand Jinja. Browsers basically only know HTML, CSS and JavaScript.

bleak trail May 5, 2021, 8:44 PM

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I thought it would convert Jinja before sending to the browser.

ivory delta May 5, 2021, 8:44 PM

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How would it do that? The states change.

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Anyway... this is a discussion for #frontend-archived. Either way, go figure out the JavaScript you need for what you want.

bleak trail May 5, 2021, 8:46 PM

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Ok, thx - I will hop over to #frontend-archived :).

patent flame May 5, 2021, 9:03 PM

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ivory delta You want to skip that datapoint instead of treating it as zero?

Yes

ivory delta May 5, 2021, 9:06 PM

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I don't think you can do that with the built-in history graph card. You probably need to look at custom graph cards or use something like Grafana.

inner mesa May 5, 2021, 9:07 PM

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the best you can do is remember the last value and repeat it if you don’t want a discontinuity

patent flame May 5, 2021, 9:07 PM

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ivory delta I don't think you can do that with the built-in history graph card. You probably...

😫

ivory delta May 5, 2021, 9:07 PM

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Which is still a guess and therefore bad data... arguably the better option is to find better graphs.

patent flame May 5, 2021, 9:08 PM

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inner mesa the best you can do is remember the last value and repeat it if you don’t want a...

I rather discontinity instead of 0

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0 ruins the graph scale...

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If you have a value arround 50.000 and then you get a 0...

inner mesa May 5, 2021, 9:09 PM

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That’s why I recommended repetition. You can’t pretend that a state change didn’t happen

patent flame May 5, 2021, 9:11 PM

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I have other graphs that simply dont have a value to that point.

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If you repeat the value and the entity id always unavailable then you wont know...

inner mesa May 5, 2021, 9:12 PM

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I have no solution, then

ivory delta May 5, 2021, 9:12 PM

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This? #templates-archived message

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If your current tool doesn't work for what you need, use a different tool.

patent flame May 5, 2021, 9:22 PM

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Ok then...

thorny snow May 5, 2021, 10:08 PM

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if entity > 0

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value_template: >-
{% if value_json.entity|int > 0 %}
{{ value_json.entity }}

inner mesa May 5, 2021, 10:31 PM

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is that an answer to something?

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it's not a good one 🙂

ivory delta May 5, 2021, 10:33 PM

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My favourite part is that when it doesn't satisfy the if, it'll return None instead and still be treated as zero.

thorny snow May 5, 2021, 11:05 PM

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NaN

inner mesa May 5, 2021, 11:06 PM

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what are you trying to do? you just posted a broken template with no context

plain zinc May 6, 2021, 12:47 AM

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Finally got around to making a PR on this one:
https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/50137

Been running a hand patched version for about 2 weeks now and it's working great.

inner mesa May 6, 2021, 12:49 AM

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that's great!

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it'll be a breaking change, though

dreamy sinew May 6, 2021, 12:50 AM

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yeah, that might cause a lot of pain

inner mesa May 6, 2021, 12:50 AM

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the good kind of pain?

dreamy sinew May 6, 2021, 12:51 AM

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no, the bitching kind

inner mesa May 6, 2021, 12:51 AM

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should have been that way from the start

dreamy sinew May 6, 2021, 12:51 AM

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its a good change but this would break a lot of people

plain zinc May 6, 2021, 12:54 AM

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I've flagged it as such

dreamy sinew May 6, 2021, 12:54 AM

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right, but that could be a barrier to acceptance

inner mesa May 6, 2021, 12:54 AM

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could add "typed_xxx" like I was suggesting for the input_xxx, but that gets messy when there are a bunch of existing attributes

dreamy sinew May 6, 2021, 12:55 AM

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i was thinking of just adding them under a sub_dict

plain zinc May 6, 2021, 12:55 AM

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I'd be happy with a separate set of attributes, it's a non-issue from my perspective

dreamy sinew May 6, 2021, 12:55 AM

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state_attr('thing', 'time_objects').next_dawn

inner mesa May 6, 2021, 12:56 AM

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yeah, could do that

dreamy sinew May 6, 2021, 12:56 AM

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that way you could have both for a while

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and start a deprecation process

plain zinc May 6, 2021, 12:56 AM

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I'll start that conversation on the PR.

bright quarry May 6, 2021, 12:58 AM

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In the previous release, we introduced a trigger-based template sensor. This release extends on that features by adding support for trigger-based binary sensors using templates.
can someone simplify this for my pigeon brain

plain zinc May 6, 2021, 1:41 AM

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inner mesa could add "typed_xxx" like I was suggesting for the `input_xxx`, but that gets m...

thanks for the link on the PR.

I'll find some time to implement it later this week/weekend hopefully

inner mesa May 6, 2021, 1:43 AM

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it's a little different in that it's duplicating the state in a typed attribute, but it might be nice to have a common way to represent typed attributes

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it's kind of a mishmash now

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plus, I guess all attributes are "typed", just not always to what you want or expect 🙂

plain zinc May 6, 2021, 1:44 AM

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String is a type 😛

silent barnBOT May 6, 2021, 2:58 AM

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@wide widget posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cnqwMYf7g2/

wide widget May 6, 2021, 3:02 AM

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Can anyone tell me why this template returns "Unknown" instead of "None", yet every other status works fine?

      value_template: >
        {% if is_state('sensor.brodie_occupancy', 'Home') and is_state('sensor.sarah_occupancy', 'Home') %}
          Both
        {% elif is_state('sensor.brodie_occupancy', 'Away') and is_state('sensor.sarah_occupancy', 'Home') %}
          Sarah
        {% elif is_state('sensor.brodie_occupancy', 'Home') and is_state('sensor.sarah_occupancy', 'Away') %}
          Brodie
        {% elif is_state('sensor.brodie_occupancy', 'Away') and is_state('sensor.sarah_occupancy', 'Away') %}
          None
        {% else %}
          Failed
        {% endif %}

inner mesa May 6, 2021, 3:03 AM

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‘None’ is a special term now that templates return typed values

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It ends up as ‘unknown’, and I think your only easy option is to choose a different word

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Change it to ‘Nothing’ and see if that works

wide widget May 6, 2021, 3:05 AM

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yep. that did it. thanks

marsh lynx May 6, 2021, 8:45 AM

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Good morning -

In my lovelace UI I have added a simple on/off switch for my switchbot, however i need to improve it by incorporating some logic whereby the binary_sensor.heating_power_state value is read first, before toggling the switch respectively.

If the binary_sensor.heating_power_state is already on, the switch in the UI should be in the **ON **position, and clicking the switch will turn it **OFF **(which will subsequently set binary_sensor.heating_power_state to off too.

My thinking is that if I can get this logic working, I'll prevent turning off the heater when it is already off (and inadvertently turn it on by accident).

If this makes sense to anyone, is anyone willing to help me put together an automation or script?

mighty ledge May 6, 2021, 12:01 PM

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marsh lynx Good morning - In my lovelace UI I have added a simple on/off switch for my swi...

Make a template switch

marsh lynx May 6, 2021, 12:37 PM

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mighty ledge Make a template switch

Thanks, this is a starter for ten, so I'll see where I get 🙂

silent barnBOT May 6, 2021, 12:47 PM

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@wide flame posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9Yt9qFTsmh/

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@wide flame posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MbDvzD9PQF/

wide flame May 6, 2021, 12:50 PM

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Hi all...

I'm having problems templating roller blind position inside an automation. If temperature goes above 21 degrees the position should be 100, else 0.
{{% if states("sensor.aeon_trisensor_balcony_temperature" | float > 21) %}}

Complete automation is here:
https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4BxrJGHzQZ/

In developer tools i get TemplateSyntaxError: unexpected '%'.
Any ideas are welcome. 🙂

jagged obsidian May 6, 2021, 12:54 PM

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its {%

wide flame May 6, 2021, 12:58 PM

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Oh man... thanks! 🙂

wide flame May 6, 2021, 1:16 PM

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HA is still not happy.
After removing the excess { I get

AttributeError: 'bool' object has no attribute 'lower'

fossil venture May 6, 2021, 1:19 PM

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That error is not from the automation you posted. It has no |lower filter.

wide flame May 6, 2021, 1:24 PM

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But why do I get that error from Template under Developer Tools when I paste the automation?

wide flame May 6, 2021, 1:39 PM

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Solved it! 🙂
{% if states.sensor.aeon_trisensor_balcony_temperature | float > 21 %}

jagged obsidian May 6, 2021, 1:40 PM

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{% if states("sensor.aeon_trisensor_balcony_temperature") | float > 21 %}

silent barnBOT May 6, 2021, 1:41 PM

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@marsh lynx posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/23xpRjMXJc/

plain zinc May 6, 2021, 1:41 PM

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inner mesa could add "typed_xxx" like I was suggesting for the `input_xxx`, but that gets m...

Paulus closed the PR with a thing I didn’t consider. Guess the hard way it is. 😥

wide flame May 6, 2021, 1:41 PM

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That works even better, blakadder.com... Thanks. 🙂

mighty ledge May 6, 2021, 1:43 PM

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@marsh lynx your value template should get the state of the sensor, not the switch

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You should be using states method, not state_attr

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On the binary sensor

marsh lynx May 6, 2021, 1:46 PM

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My binary_sensor has these attributes: https://imgur.com/vWC9yeB

mighty ledge May 6, 2021, 1:47 PM

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And?

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None of that matters

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Use the states method in the value_template. Don’t use state_attr. Only provide it the binary_sensor entity_id

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Also, you’ll have to change your toggle service to switch.turn_on and off inside the respective areas in the switch template

silent barnBOT May 6, 2021, 1:51 PM

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@marsh lynx posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/K6nykKVtFh/

mighty ledge May 6, 2021, 1:51 PM

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Please stop posting code walls, use a code sharing site

silent barnBOT May 6, 2021, 1:51 PM

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Please use https://paste.ubuntu.com/ to share code or logs. Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view.

mighty ledge May 6, 2021, 1:52 PM

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And yes, that config looks like it should work

inner mesa May 6, 2021, 2:23 PM

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plain zinc Paulus closed the PR with a thing I didn’t consider. Guess the hard way it is. �...

Boo. I’m pretty sure I have datetime objects in the attributes of 2 of my integrations, so I wonder what havoc I’ve been causing

fading bear May 6, 2021, 2:52 PM

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So i've got a scrape sensor which pulls a verbal date from a website (it's bin collection time again) for example "WASTE + FOOD WASTE Saturday 8 May". I'm struggling to work out how to translate this into a date and type which i can interact with via automations etc. I'm guessing it'll turn into a sensor with the bin type, and the date as an attribute. Anyone willing to help me with this? I just can't seem to work it out

marsh lynx May 6, 2021, 3:37 PM

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mighty ledge And yes, that config looks like it should work

Got it working. Thanks for your help.

pastel moon May 6, 2021, 5:13 PM

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I really would appriciate some help. Been at this value sensor for hours and havn't got it working... The if's are now just place holders of what I'd like to achieve

        value_template: >-
          {% set cTime = now().hour %}
          {%- if cTime cTime is between 6 & 8 -%}
            state1
          {%- elif cTime is between 9 & 10 -%}
            state2
          {%- elif cTime is between 11 & 15 -%}
            state3
          {%- else -%}
            state4
          {% endif %}

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Any pointers/help much appriciated

dreamy sinew May 6, 2021, 5:18 PM

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6 < cTime < 8

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<= if you want inclusive

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cTime in [9, 10] with just the 2 values

pastel moon May 6, 2021, 5:19 PM

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Yes, I forgot that, I have tried to read on this... Thank you! Will try this 🙂

pastel moon May 6, 2021, 5:37 PM

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Hm. Using this

      value_template: >-
        {% set cTime = now().hour %}
        {%- if 6 <= cTime <= 8 -%}
          stage1
        {% endif %}

I get the error

Error: Testing configuration at /config
Fatal error while loading config: argument of type 'NoneType' is not iterable
Failed config
  General Errors: 
    - argument of type 'NoneType' is not iterable

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if commenting it out "ha core check" completes successfully...

dreamy sinew May 6, 2021, 5:47 PM

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likely unrelated

pastel moon May 6, 2021, 5:49 PM

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Agreed it seems unlikely to be related, but as it works without this part... Well, which channel should I post a Q about this?

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Yep. found it. An indentation issue. Thanks for the help!

acoustic arch May 7, 2021, 12:40 PM

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hello all. Count anyone point me in the right direction for the following?

I would like a notification IF a window is still open when i leave home. I would also like to know which one.

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I think i need a template for that, but im unfalimiair with the syntax of it

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i got a group going which gives me ON/OFF if any sensor is open

pastel moon May 7, 2021, 4:05 PM

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How can I test if any light is on using templates?

dreamy sinew May 7, 2021, 4:06 PM

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states.light|selectattr('state', 'eq', 'on')|list|length > 0

pastel moon May 7, 2021, 4:08 PM

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Wow 🙂 Interesting! Will try. Thanks!

silent barnBOT May 8, 2021, 12:36 AM

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@unique gyro posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nXKmwPHMp7/

unique gyro May 8, 2021, 12:37 AM

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Woops a bit longer than I taught.

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I’m trying to debounce a noisy ZigBee sensor using the new binary sensor template in HA but i’m not sure how it should be formated, i’ve come up with this but is does not seem to work : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nXKmwPHMp7/

ivory delta May 8, 2021, 1:07 AM

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That's... not a template 🤔

unique gyro May 8, 2021, 1:27 AM

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Woops there’s a line missing. Here’s the full code : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vzq2dJSj4n/

unique gyro May 8, 2021, 2:32 AM

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There doesn’t seem to have any documentation either about it outside the 2021.05 release. 😕

wet pulsar May 8, 2021, 4:23 AM

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Is it possible to use a template reading an input slider to adjust an entry in the config? Specifically the confidence level for an image processor.

fossil venture May 8, 2021, 5:25 AM

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The options documentation for the integration will list if they take templates or not.

jagged obsidian May 8, 2021, 9:49 PM

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is there a way to know which unit for temperature homeassistant is using that can be used in an automation or template for a true/false result?

mighty ledge May 8, 2021, 10:13 PM

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jagged obsidian is there a way to know which unit for temperature homeassistant is using that ca...

elaborate please, your question could mean a few different things

jagged obsidian May 8, 2021, 10:18 PM

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can an automation know in any way whether the instance of homeassistant the automation is ran on uses Fahrenheit or Celsius because if for example the automation sends a number value somewhere where only one unit is accepted

mighty ledge May 8, 2021, 10:19 PM

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it's not accessible through templates

jagged obsidian May 8, 2021, 10:19 PM

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oke

mighty ledge May 8, 2021, 10:19 PM

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but just hardcode it

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it's not like it's going to change

jagged obsidian May 8, 2021, 10:20 PM

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blueprint

mighty ledge May 8, 2021, 10:20 PM

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check the sensor / device it's coming from

jagged obsidian May 8, 2021, 10:20 PM

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its a number entity with no unit

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making 2 blueprint seems to be the way

mighty ledge May 8, 2021, 10:21 PM

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or a blueprint and a sensor template

jagged obsidian May 8, 2021, 10:21 PM

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you cannot simply import or add a template sensor using UI

mighty ledge May 8, 2021, 10:22 PM

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is that a requirement?

jagged obsidian May 8, 2021, 10:22 PM

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i'm not making it for myself, i'm trying to make accessible blueprints so beginner users can just import it and it runs

fluid thorn May 9, 2021, 10:07 AM

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Hi guys, is there an easier/better way of doing this? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Vw83pzgKD9/

jagged obsidian May 9, 2021, 11:32 AM

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That looks simple enough

acoustic arch May 9, 2021, 12:23 PM

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hello!

    'eq', 'on')|map(attribute='name')|list|join(', ') }}```

How can i put these group items on seperate lines each? Some kind of linebreak thing?

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also. is it possible to exclude one by name of do i need to make a seperate group for it?

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@fluid thorn thats exactly what im doing with this template lol

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im trying to get a notification with open doors/windows.

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i can remove |join(', ') but that will print ugly brackets

nocturne chasm May 9, 2021, 1:05 PM

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Make a group without the entity you want and go to dev tool / templates to play with your template.

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here is a hint:

{{ expand('group.deurenraamsensor') | selectattr('state', 'eq', 'on')|map(attribute='name')|list|join('\n') }}

acoustic arch May 9, 2021, 2:13 PM

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Oooooo /n is the line break?

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I'll check when home

inner mesa May 9, 2021, 3:23 PM

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{{ expand('group.downstairs_lights') | selectattr('state', 'eq', 'on')|map(attribute='name')|list|join('\n') }}

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other slash

burnt zephyr May 9, 2021, 4:17 PM

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how would i do a wait template for a variable called input_boolean.pause_tour for the off state?
i tried a few things based off of examples and I cant seem to get it to work.

solar lodge May 9, 2021, 4:20 PM

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Any idea why this automation to change brightness doesnt work?:trigger:

platform: state
entity_id:
- light.recibidor
  to: 'on'
  for: '00:00:5'
  condition: []
  action:
service: light.turn_on
data:
entity_id: '{{ trigger.entity_id }}'
brightness: 69

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If I do turn_off instead it does work

plain zinc May 9, 2021, 5:08 PM

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@inner mesa So I'm back to working on getting my template the "hard way" to work via {{ strptime(states.sun.sun.attributes.next_setting, "%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S") - now() }} but am getting TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for -: 'str' and 'datetime.datetime'

Am I crazy or is strptime busted?

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I could be using it wrong, but I'm not thinking so...

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It's gross, and I don't feel it matches what the documentation suggests strptime does, but I've worked around it to the same result shakes fist

https://hatebin.com/hwmaflhvpb

inner mesa May 9, 2021, 5:23 PM

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I've been playing with strptime and I haven't been able to get it to return a datetime either

plain zinc May 9, 2021, 5:26 PM

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Maybe I'll focus my efforts there to simplify my template

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Thanks for the "i'm not crazy" check.

inner mesa May 9, 2021, 5:27 PM

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I think it's a problem with the format string, but it's not easy to debug in devtools -> Templates. It claims that everything is a string

plain zinc May 9, 2021, 5:31 PM

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oh possibly jinja2 needing a literal % modifier?

inner mesa May 9, 2021, 5:39 PM

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this works:

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{{ strptime(as_timestamp(state_attr('sun.sun', 'next_setting').split('.')[0])|timestamp_custom("%H:%M:%S"), "%H:%M:%S") - strptime(as_timestamp(now())|timestamp_custom("%H:%M:%S"), "%H:%M:%S") }}

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strptime() returns the string if it can't parse it

ivory delta May 9, 2021, 5:40 PM

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Or a neater way:

{{ sec//3600 }}h{{ sec%3600//60 }}m```

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You just need both to be the same type. Make both timestamps.

inner mesa May 9, 2021, 5:41 PM

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timestamps generally seem easier to use

ivory delta May 9, 2021, 5:42 PM

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Everything is just timestamps. Dates and string formatted dates are just eye candy.

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Epoch time ftw.

plain zinc May 9, 2021, 5:42 PM

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yeah I went with |as_timestamp above ^ https://hatebin.com/hwmaflhvpb

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it's just frustrating that the docs don't line up.

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b{{ strptime(states.sun.sun.attributes.next_setting, "%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S.%f+%Z") }}```

returns:
```A2021-05-10T00:36:07.625034+00:00
b2021-05-10T00:36:07.625034+00:00```

Just both strings.

inner mesa May 9, 2021, 5:43 PM

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but my example above proves (I think) that if you format the time in a known way and then parse it with that string, it returns a datetime that can be used in math

ivory delta May 9, 2021, 5:43 PM

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plain zinc ```A{{ states.sun.sun.attributes.next_setting }} b{{ strptime(states.sun.sun.att...

It's not a fault of Jinja. HA will cast the returned value of any template to a string.

inner mesa May 9, 2021, 5:43 PM

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devtools -> Templates says a datetime is a string

ivory delta May 9, 2021, 5:43 PM

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Both work as expected until HA casts the types.

inner mesa May 9, 2021, 5:44 PM

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{{ now() }}

plain zinc May 9, 2021, 5:44 PM

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``` Doesn't work though :/

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I wouldn't expect a pre-cast to happen in the math operations

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|as_timestamp works.... it's just annoying

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ok my kid just woke up, time to give my SO a break.

Thanks for the "i'm not crazy" check

swift summit May 9, 2021, 6:17 PM

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I'm trying to get the state out of a helper called input_text.announcement and put it in a message: {{ trigger. .what? }} I have tried so many combinations now and always get '[object Object]': null which makes me think it is not getting recognised. I'm assuming from the examples trigger represents the trigger of the automation. If I do it in VisualCode instead it just makes the script unavailable in the editing so is suspect causes it to break.

ivory delta May 9, 2021, 6:24 PM

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You still haven't done what Rob asked... share what you're doing.

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There's a whole lot of guessing on your side already and you're expecting us to guess too.

swift summit May 9, 2021, 6:24 PM

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not really. I'm trying to figure out what the bot means by paste using ubuntu! not intuitive at all!

ivory delta May 9, 2021, 6:25 PM

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🤔

inner mesa May 9, 2021, 6:25 PM

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go to the link 2. paste what you're trying and isn't working 3. share the link

swift summit May 9, 2021, 6:26 PM

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https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/w7CwDJ3gJm/

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got it

ivory delta May 9, 2021, 6:26 PM

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Your code is not the same as the examples.

inner mesa May 9, 2021, 6:26 PM

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you need to surround the template in quotes

ivory delta May 9, 2021, 6:26 PM

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message: {{ trigger.to_state.state }}
is not the same as
message: '{{ trigger.to_state.state }}'

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Hence HA telling you it's an object (curly braces mean an object).

swift summit May 9, 2021, 6:29 PM

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Makes sense. I had tried "" but not go. You are 100% right though. Now working. Ta for the help. Quick question in the example it uses message: > then has the message on the next line without speech marks. Does the > tell yaml this is a string.

ivory delta May 9, 2021, 6:30 PM

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No, it tells it that it's a multi-line entry (and therefore will always be treated as a string and needs no quotes).

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YAML cares about whitespace and linebreaks.

swift summit May 9, 2021, 6:30 PM

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Awesome, that could come in handy. When it is multiline does it then treat the line ends as \n or just ignore as one big string no matter how many lines?

silent barnBOT May 9, 2021, 6:31 PM

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YAML is the mark up language used by Home Assistant, consistent indenting (two spaces per level) is key. Here is a primer, and this explains multi-line templates. For validating YAML see YAML Lint.

ivory delta May 9, 2021, 6:31 PM

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More info there. It's not specific to HA, so there's plenty of into on the internet.

swift summit May 9, 2021, 6:32 PM

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Ta mono. Today was the first time I've got around to playing with Yaml for anthing other than config so lot to learn. My missus wanted something to allow her to message me hence the automation attempt 😉

acoustic arch May 9, 2021, 6:46 PM

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inner mesa `{{ expand('group.downstairs_lights') | selectattr('state', 'eq', 'on')|map(attr...

it still puts it in a single line on Android notification. bummer

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i well its working. Ill separate it with a slash i think

carmine stag May 10, 2021, 2:46 AM

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Hey there! I have a lovelace card that shows a historical graph of a utility meter, but I'd like to change the actual value that's shown with a value template. Is it possible to do this? The graph history seems to be lost when I create a new value template sensor

inner mesa May 10, 2021, 2:46 AM

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You need to add a ‘unit_of_measurement’

carmine stag May 10, 2021, 2:48 AM

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The utility meter already has a unit and doesn't seem to like me adding a unit_of_measurement

inner mesa May 10, 2021, 2:49 AM

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I’m commenting on your last sentence

carmine stag May 10, 2021, 2:50 AM

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Gotcha, yeah the new template sensor has a unit of measurement already, but acts as if the first point on the graph is a few minutes ago, which honestly makes sense. If I lose the past few days of data on my utility sensor for the front-end, that's fine, I was just curious if there was a cleaner way to do things in one place

inner mesa May 10, 2021, 2:51 AM

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No, you’re now graphing the historical state of your new sensor

carmine stag May 10, 2021, 2:52 AM

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👍 Sounds good, thanks!

oak summit May 10, 2021, 4:39 AM

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I want an automation to output some things about tomorrow's weather forecast, I'm wanting a template for these three values out of the weather.kgus_daynight I have.
https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/y6rCBg8ZkK/

I do know how to get normal attributes, but I'm not sure how to output things inside the forecast object, at the time this automation will be firing it should be the second item in the forecast object, I've added #this 1 #this 2 and #this 3 to the three places I need to know how to template for, but if someone can help me with one of them I'm sure I can figure out the other 2 fairly easily.

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oh, I think I just figured it out!

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but I'll wait to see what rob is typing lol

inner mesa May 10, 2021, 4:43 AM

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{{ state_attr('weather.xxx', 'forecast')[0]["temperature"] }}

oak summit May 10, 2021, 4:44 AM

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I got {{ state_attr('weather.kgus_daynight', 'forecast').2.precipitation_probability }}

inner mesa May 10, 2021, 4:44 AM

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and [1] and [2] etc.

oak summit May 10, 2021, 4:44 AM

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is there any particular need for the brackets?

inner mesa May 10, 2021, 4:44 AM

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that's how one indexes into a list

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the ".2." might work, but it's ambiguous

oak summit May 10, 2021, 4:45 AM

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well, the one I put there actually worked, so I was just wondering if there was an edge case where i shouldn't do it that way.

inner mesa May 10, 2021, 4:45 AM

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whatever works

oak summit May 10, 2021, 4:46 AM

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~~oh wait, adding the brackets breaks it in the /templates... I guess I'll go without then 😅~~ it didn't break anything, I did it wrong. kept the period, did .[2] instead of just [2].

inner mesa May 10, 2021, 4:46 AM

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I'm used to more Pythonic syntax

oak summit May 10, 2021, 4:46 AM

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Sorry for the dumb questions if they are dumb 😅 I'm just excited I'm finally starting to understand templates more

inner mesa May 10, 2021, 4:46 AM

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np. play around in the dev tools and see what works

silent barnBOT May 10, 2021, 8:35 AM

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@mystic bobcat posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6hbS88KtP3/

thorny snow May 10, 2021, 8:36 AM

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Hi to all,

i'm trying to make a button to show his entity state on when clicked navigate to another window, and when holding the button toggle another entity switch

the state is ok, the navigation is ok, but when i make the toggle to the switch it gives me an error failing to toggle the switch to turn on. Can anyone give me an hint to what i'm doing wrong

https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6hbS88KtP3/

nocturne chasm May 10, 2021, 10:24 AM

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@thorny snow , this would be a #frontend-archived question

nimble copper May 10, 2021, 10:30 AM

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With the new template trigger binary sensors, is it possible to create a binary sensor that checks if a numerical state is true for X number of minutes? And then turns off the binary sensor when it's no longer true?

nocturne chasm May 10, 2021, 10:42 AM

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The template trigger just updates the state of the binary sensor when the trigger value is satisfied.

nimble copper May 10, 2021, 10:44 AM

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It looks like the new delay_on keys in the template sensors might do the trick.

waxen dawn May 10, 2021, 11:52 AM

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Hi,

I'd like to upgrade my game from:

    google search, cut and paste, 
    fiddle with the code, 
    and see if it works```
to a little actual programming in Home Assistant and ESPHome.

Is there some sort of outline or tutorial that can start me off?
Or is my request kind of like asking a doctor to give you in 15 minutes what took him 10 years to learn?

Thanks in advance.

jagged obsidian May 10, 2021, 11:52 AM

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first: its not programming

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learn yaml structure, learn jinja templating

waxen dawn May 10, 2021, 11:53 AM

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I've got yaml structure (at least at a novice level) so I'll look into jinja templating. Thanks

jagged obsidian May 10, 2021, 11:54 AM

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and don't try to understand HA docs, understand them first

waxen dawn May 10, 2021, 11:55 AM

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I get the don't "try" just "do" concept. Maybe the jinja templating will get me closer to that goal.

jagged obsidian May 10, 2021, 11:56 AM

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it will let you understand what all those {% if and | int things do

waxen dawn May 10, 2021, 11:56 AM

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👍

acoustic arch May 10, 2021, 12:35 PM

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i also have a forecast data extration question with this one:
https://pastebin.com/E202Vkdj

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how can i get the weather the TODAY date?

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since it changes every day?

jagged obsidian May 10, 2021, 12:36 PM

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i'm not sure what's pasted in the pastebin

acoustic arch May 10, 2021, 12:38 PM

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its a forecast sensor accuweahter

jagged obsidian May 10, 2021, 12:38 PM

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not a weather entity?

acoustic arch May 10, 2021, 12:38 PM

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is an entity yes, sorry

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this is spit out in developers tools

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i need datetime today

jagged obsidian May 10, 2021, 12:39 PM

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well you get the current weather with states(weather.name)

acoustic arch May 10, 2021, 12:40 PM

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mmm. I would like an early morning of the weather that day

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not current...

jagged obsidian May 10, 2021, 12:40 PM

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why do you need early morning of today if its noon?

acoustic arch May 10, 2021, 12:40 PM

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sorry... i need the weather of the day, given to me in the morning

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so current doesnt cut it

jagged obsidian May 10, 2021, 12:41 PM

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date comparisons get very complicated

acoustic arch May 10, 2021, 12:41 PM

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thats why i was thinking parsing that datetime:

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thats why im here lol 😉

jagged obsidian May 10, 2021, 12:43 PM

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perhaps {{ state_attr('weather.name', 'datetime' ) | timestamp_custom('%Y-%m-%d') == now().strftime('%Y-%m-%d') }}

acoustic arch May 10, 2021, 12:43 PM

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holy!

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hahaha. damn son!

jagged obsidian May 10, 2021, 12:44 PM

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the timestamp formatting might need adjustments

acoustic arch May 10, 2021, 12:44 PM

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ill go paste this in develop

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{{ state_attr('weather.huis_2', 'datetime' ) | timestamp_custom('%Y-%m-%d') == now().strftime('%Y-%m-%d') }}

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is giving me False

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gotta go. Youve given me a good direction. Found some on the site with this sting

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thx

formal ember May 10, 2021, 1:15 PM

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I have an average temp sensor, it reports in 2 decimal places, is there a way to force it to report as only 1 decimal place? (OCD kicking in...) have read the template docs and cannot figure out an example to use

formal ember May 10, 2021, 1:49 PM

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solved.... for future reference...

    home_temperature_average:
      friendly_name: "Home Temperature Average"
      unit_of_measurement: '°C'
      value_template: "{{ (states('sensor.home_temperature_average') | float ) | round(1) }}"

warm beacon May 10, 2021, 2:35 PM

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Where is the mistake?
Just one line in the Template editor results in 5 {{ "%.2f" | format(5 | float) }}
Several lines or a comment add up to 5.00 Ahhh: {{ "%.2f" | format(5 | float) }} How do I have to format a number so that 2 decimal places are always displayed?

inner mesa May 10, 2021, 2:52 PM

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The |float isn’t doing anything there

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{{ "%.2f"|format(5) }}

warm beacon May 10, 2021, 3:11 PM

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inner mesa `{{ "%.2f"|format(5) }}`

{{ "%.2f"|format(5) }} still 5 instead 5.00?!

inner mesa May 10, 2021, 3:13 PM

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Not for me

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5.00

warm beacon May 10, 2021, 3:28 PM

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inner mesa 5.00

Only with this single line in the editor?? {{ "%.2f"|format(5) }} nothing else.

inner mesa May 10, 2021, 3:44 PM

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it did on my phone, but trying it again on my desktop machine it's returning a number and "5"

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weird

flint crown May 10, 2021, 3:47 PM

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Is there a possiblity for a template SQL Sensor ? A SQL Sensor which is evaluate at state change.

fair verge May 10, 2021, 3:55 PM

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is the document for templates up to date ? https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/template/ the example there for averaging temperatures errors with Invalid config for [template]: required key not provided @ data['trigger']. Got None.

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seems you have to have - trigger: even if empty

inner mesa May 10, 2021, 4:09 PM

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@warm beacon It looks like you need to have something in addition to the format string to get it to evaluate to a string, like {{ "$%0.2f"|format(5) }}. Other characters also work, but a space does not

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this is "true": {{ "%0.2f"|format(5) is string }}, but this returns a number: {{ "%0.2f"|format(5) }}

pastel moon May 10, 2021, 4:39 PM

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Could something like this

- scene: scene.hallway_"{{ state('sensor.period_of_day') }}"

be done? I want to create this in a script which will dynamically build the name of the scene to call based on the time of day ('day', 'night' etc)
I was looking at this page and hoping something similar would work in a script... https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/template#multiline-example-with-an-if-test

inner mesa May 10, 2021, 5:01 PM

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I think that will only work in a data: block

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but you can use the scene.turn_on service and do it that way

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states('sensor.period_of_day'), BTW

pastel moon May 10, 2021, 5:03 PM

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True, and thanks! More digging to do... 🙂

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but how will what's in the data: block affect entity_id?

inner mesa May 10, 2021, 5:17 PM

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because you put the entity_id in the data: block

pastel moon May 10, 2021, 5:20 PM

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getting close?

sequence:
  - service: scene.turn_on
    data:
      target: scene.hallway_{{ states('sensor.period_of_day') }}

inner mesa May 10, 2021, 5:21 PM

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I don't know how target: works. I would use entity_id: there

pastel moon May 10, 2021, 5:22 PM

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lol. ha core check didn't protest, but agree... Were too hasty

pastel moon May 10, 2021, 5:55 PM

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Well, this works nicely, but could the value of the sensor be captured in a variable somehow? As is it could theoretically change while running the script (will add more entities_id's)?

  sequence:         
    - service: scene.turn_on
      data:                 
        entity_id: scene.hallway_{{ states('sensor.period_of_day') }}

distant plover May 10, 2021, 5:56 PM

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Can I use templating somehow to get brightness level of a device on line 47 of this automation? https://pastebin.com/BQyMvQHe

inner mesa May 10, 2021, 5:58 PM

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@pastel moon Yes, you can store it in an input_text

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But it seems like you would want to use whatever is current

pastel moon May 10, 2021, 6:00 PM

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I will add the list to a few more and would like to make sure all are set to the same value...

inner mesa May 10, 2021, 6:00 PM

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@distant plover yes

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Ok

distant plover May 10, 2021, 6:04 PM

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Basically just replace it with {{ states.light.bad_led_over_speilet.attributes.brightness | int}} ?

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Or... I have to do something clever to convert range 0-255 to 0-99

ivory delta May 10, 2021, 6:05 PM

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number / 2.55

inner mesa May 10, 2021, 6:06 PM

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state_attr('light.bad_led_over_speilet', 'brightness')

distant plover May 10, 2021, 6:06 PM

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Thanks. I guess I used the old method.

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But / 2.55 will become 100, not 99

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And if I do {{ (state_attr('light.bad_led_over_speilet', 'brightness') / 2.55 -1)|int }} I will get 0 when brightness is 1 😛

ivory delta May 10, 2021, 6:10 PM

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So subtract 1... 🤔

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If something expects a percentage, it will accept 100.

distant plover May 10, 2021, 6:11 PM

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Hmmm... I can try.... it's a zwave parameter

ivory delta May 10, 2021, 6:11 PM

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The reason you'll often see 0-255 is that those numbers can all be represented by an 8 bit number. 256 would take it into a second byte. 0-100 has no such problems.

distant plover May 10, 2021, 6:14 PM

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Didn't work. It wouldn't change the parameter if I chose 100

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Just reset it to its current state

ivory delta May 10, 2021, 6:16 PM

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If you need an integer value, divide by 256 instead and then floor the resulting number.

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You might get some values that are off by one but it'll fix 0 and 99 for you and still be a linear scale.

distant plover May 10, 2021, 6:18 PM

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Thanks, I can live with 256 🙂

pastel moon May 10, 2021, 6:20 PM

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this is so fun! Can't believe I didn't got involved earlier! 😄

distant plover May 10, 2021, 6:37 PM

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What's a good way of getting a template trigger for changes to brightness? I need on to off, off to on, brightness up and brightness down.

inner mesa May 10, 2021, 6:39 PM

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just trigger on brightness changes and sort it out in the action: with a choose:

distant plover May 10, 2021, 6:42 PM

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I actually don't care what trigger it is. I need to do an action on any change to the device 😛

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But what's the best way of doing a trigger on brightness changes?

inner mesa May 10, 2021, 6:43 PM

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it's just a state trigger

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/automation/trigger/#state-trigger

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best, read the whole page

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the trick is that I believe that the brightness attribute only exists if the light is on, so you'd also need to trigger on a state change to off

distant plover May 10, 2021, 6:46 PM

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Brilliant! Thanks.

elder quarry May 10, 2021, 7:34 PM

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hey folks, i'm trying to get a state template for my thermostats, but i am always getting "heat" rather than "off"

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surely i am missing something here

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2nd_floor_hvac_state:
friendly_name: "2nd Floor HVAC State"
value_template: "{{ states('climate.2nd_floor_thermostat_mode') }}"

inner mesa May 10, 2021, 7:37 PM

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that's a weird template sensor. why not just use climate.2nd_floor_thermostat_mode?

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what's the point of replicating that state?

elder quarry May 10, 2021, 7:39 PM

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i just realized what i think i actually want is the attribute hvac_modes

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i want to display the current status and setpoint without using the full climate card

inner mesa May 10, 2021, 7:40 PM

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I figured 🙂

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hvac_modes is a list of all the modes. also probably not what you want

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hvac_action is what it's doing now

elder quarry May 10, 2021, 7:42 PM

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right, that returns an array, though it does indicate 'off' in the state tab

inner mesa May 10, 2021, 7:42 PM

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the state of climate.xxx is what it's currently set to

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then it's off

jagged obsidian May 10, 2021, 7:42 PM

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If it's always in heating mode you might need idle as off

elder quarry May 10, 2021, 7:42 PM

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ahhh, thank you

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action is indeed what i want

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i wonder why it "highlights" off when it is on heat

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in the modes, that is

jagged obsidian May 10, 2021, 7:44 PM

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If it's off in states then it's off, otherwise it's on but in different climate mode

elder quarry May 10, 2021, 7:45 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/lDp1dG7

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heat just turned on a minute ago

inner mesa May 10, 2021, 7:45 PM

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you're asking why off is quoted?

elder quarry May 10, 2021, 7:45 PM

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right

inner mesa May 10, 2021, 7:45 PM

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so it's recognized as a string, rather than a boolean

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it's just an artifact of YAML

elder quarry May 10, 2021, 7:45 PM

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thanks, that makes sense

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man, everything is so easy once you figure it out

pastel moon May 11, 2021, 4:17 AM

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Is there a better way than using 'system_log.write' service to debug a script? I'm having an issue reading the input_text... https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vcFB2d5trZ/

inner mesa May 11, 2021, 4:19 AM

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You can’t just use the input_text directly. It has to be a template

rocky vapor May 11, 2021, 4:19 AM

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https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/D8Wv5DQRTn/

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Supposedly supplying a trigger is optional however I can't seem to declare a template without it..
Invalid config for [template]: required key not provided @ data['trigger']

inner mesa May 11, 2021, 4:20 AM

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Put the entity_id in data: and use a template as you did with the scene

inner mesa May 11, 2021, 4:21 AM

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rocky vapor Supposedly supplying a trigger is optional however I can't seem to declare a tem...

@rocky vapor what are you trying to do?

rocky vapor May 11, 2021, 4:21 AM

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declare a template without a trigger

inner mesa May 11, 2021, 4:22 AM

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What are you want the state of the template to be?

rocky vapor May 11, 2021, 4:22 AM

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not important at this stage

inner mesa May 11, 2021, 4:23 AM

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🤷

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- platform: template
  sensors:
    roomba_status:
      friendly_name: Status
      value_template: "{{ states('vacuum.taileater_2_0') }}"
      icon_template: mdi:robot-vacuum

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same as this: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/template/#state-based-template-sensors

rocky vapor May 11, 2021, 4:24 AM

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anything declared under the "template:" key in config requires a trigger?

inner mesa May 11, 2021, 4:25 AM

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all of mine are like this: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/template/#legacy-binary-sensor-configuration-format

rocky vapor May 11, 2021, 4:25 AM

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right, declared under "sensors:"

inner mesa May 11, 2021, 4:25 AM

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but the first example from the docs does not have a trigger

rocky vapor May 11, 2021, 4:25 AM

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or "template:"

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the example you've shown me appears to be a sensor declaration if im not mistaken?

inner mesa May 11, 2021, 4:26 AM

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as is yours

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just different ways to write it

rocky vapor May 11, 2021, 4:27 AM

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no, i'm specifically declaring these under "template:"

inner mesa May 11, 2021, 4:27 AM

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are you saying that the example in the docs is wrong or doesn't work?

rocky vapor May 11, 2021, 4:27 AM

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the docs say a trigger is optional.

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if i declare a template without a trigger, i get an error: Invalid config for [template]: required key not provided @ data['trigger'].

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so either the docs are wrong, or i'm missing something painfully obvious

inner mesa May 11, 2021, 4:28 AM

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yours doesn't look like the docs

rocky vapor May 11, 2021, 4:29 AM

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OK..

inner mesa May 11, 2021, 4:29 AM

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first, you've commented out the first line. second, you have a second sensor: block

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from the docs:

rocky vapor May 11, 2021, 4:30 AM

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i've commented out the first line because its a linked file.

inner mesa May 11, 2021, 4:30 AM

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template:
  - sensor:
      - name: "Average temperature"
        unit_of_measurement: "°C"
        state: >
          {% set bedroom = states('sensor.bedroom_temperature') | float %}
          {% set kitchen = states('sensor.kitchen_temperature') | float %}

          {{ ((bedroom + kitchen) / 2) | round(1) }}

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yours:

rocky vapor May 11, 2021, 4:30 AM

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thats beside the point

inner mesa May 11, 2021, 4:30 AM

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#template:
  - sensor:
    name: "Test"
    state: "Test"
  - trigger:
      platform: time_pattern
      minutes: "/1"
    sensor:
      icon: mdi:update
      name: "Docker cloud backup"
      state: "{{ relative_time(strptime(states.sensor.rclone_timestamp.state|int|timestamp_custom('%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S.%f%z'), '%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S.%f%z')) }} ago"

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note the second "sensor:"

rocky vapor May 11, 2021, 4:30 AM

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yes im declaring two seperate templates

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the second of which, is using the trigger

pastel moon May 11, 2021, 4:42 AM

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inner mesa Put the entity_id in data: and use a template as you did with the scene

🤔 You mean something like this? Still missing something tho... https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wnP7szNkth/

inner mesa May 11, 2021, 4:44 AM

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- sensor:
    - name: "Test"
      state: "Test"

- trigger:
    - platform: time_pattern
      minutes: "/1"
  sensor:
    - icon: mdi:update
      name: "Docker cloud backup"
      state: "{{ relative_time(strptime(states.sensor.rclone_timestamp.state|int|timestamp_custom('%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S.%f%z'), '%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S.%f%z')) }} ago"

rocky vapor May 11, 2021, 4:45 AM

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yeah.. unfortunately same error. I've tried declaring

  - sensor:
      - name: Sun Angle
        unit_of_measurement: "°"
        state: "{{ '%+.1f'|format(state_attr('sun.sun', 'elevation')) }}"

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by itself, same error

inner mesa May 11, 2021, 4:45 AM

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that one works for me

rocky vapor May 11, 2021, 4:45 AM

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the hell is going on here..

inner mesa May 11, 2021, 4:45 AM

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sensor: presumably wants a list

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anyway, I just followed the docs closely

rocky vapor May 11, 2021, 4:47 AM

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you were able to declare a template without a trigger?

inner mesa May 11, 2021, 4:48 AM

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@pastel moon Yes, your indentation is all over the place

pastel moon May 11, 2021, 4:49 AM

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its is... forgot to mention that before pasting... It is correct in the actual script tho

inner mesa May 11, 2021, 4:49 AM

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I can't help debug something that's only in your file

pastel moon May 11, 2021, 4:50 AM

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Understandable... 🙂 Here's the whole thing https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5y7qHCKgK3/

inner mesa May 11, 2021, 4:52 AM

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this is not an entity_id: "{{ states('sensor.period_of_day') }}"

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and you didn't tell it what to set it to

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/input_text/#services

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test:
  alias: New Script
  sequence:
    - service: input_text.set_value
      data:
        entity_id: input_text.scene
        value: scene.hallway_{{ states('sensor.period_of_day') }}
    - service: scene.turn_on
      data:
        entity_id: "{{ states('input_text.scene') }}"
  mode: single

pastel moon May 11, 2021, 4:58 AM

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Thanks! I had corrected the entity_id and was reading... perfect 👍

rocky vapor May 11, 2021, 5:23 AM

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if anyone can confirm outright they can declare a template without a trigger, please tag me in the post. cheers

inner mesa May 11, 2021, 5:25 AM

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I did

rocky vapor May 11, 2021, 5:26 AM

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what version of home assistant are you running @inner mesa ?

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I'm running Home Assistant 2021.4.6

inner mesa May 11, 2021, 5:27 AM

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2021.5.2

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From your definition

rocky vapor May 11, 2021, 5:27 AM

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alrightttt

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im not going insane

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thank you!

inner mesa May 11, 2021, 5:29 AM

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There was a change in 2021.5, but I don’t recall the details

rocky vapor May 11, 2021, 5:29 AM

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pulling the latest images now

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working fine now, thank you @inner mesa

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that was driving me up the walls

inner mesa May 11, 2021, 5:37 AM

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I haven’t used that feature, so the 2021.5 changes didn’t register with me, or that it would affect you

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This doesn’t seem template related

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Please stop posting everywhere. It won’t help

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Stop tagging me

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Chill out and Google ‘home assistant locked out’

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Blocked

bitter atlas May 11, 2021, 5:45 AM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/locked_out/

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never had to do it, can't help you with that. that page pretty much covers every scenario so you must be missing something or doing something off. also this issues belong ONLY in #330990055533576204 and NO other channel so please stop posting in this one and after you have THOROUGHLY tried everything then post for help in #330990055533576204

inland hazel May 11, 2021, 5:57 AM

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@worthy tangle That was completely uncalled for.

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Ghost spamming the mods is not allowed, and therefore you are no longer allowed here.

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1 simple “atMOD” message is fine when someone is breaking the rules and we need to be directed toward it. However, sending 4 messages, each consisting of multiple mod tags, that’s completely uncalled for.

winter belfry May 11, 2021, 6:02 AM

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yes, none of this deserves the mania you are applying to it.

plucky oyster May 11, 2021, 6:03 AM

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https://c.tenor.com/CH-J366fbSkAAAAM/tenor.gif

pastel moon May 11, 2021, 7:47 AM

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This script acts on a sensor than can return 'day', 'night', 'morning' & 'evening'. When the latter two happens I would like it to return 'soft' instead. Am I on the right track with this value template? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3BdrHYFrCj/

inner mesa May 11, 2021, 2:04 PM

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Close, but not quite

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There no value_template: key for input_text.set_value and you can’t return a key: value pair from a template

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Use value: instead of value_template: and just return the value you want in the template

pastel moon May 11, 2021, 2:08 PM

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Thanks, been at it a while... Still no joy, but this is what I've come up with https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HqhtFj9cSZ/

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Template checks out in Dev Tools, but when enabled in the script, I get a warning when trying to run it (flashes past) something about template generating an unknown entity_id...

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Don't understand that, tried googling a lot

inner mesa May 11, 2021, 2:17 PM

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You probably need data: instead of target:

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Like in my example from last night

pastel moon May 11, 2021, 2:22 PM

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Oh!! I knew I was missing something... You did say data was needed for templates... 😊

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this flashes past real quick when manually running the script (no idea which log it ends up in if any): "failed to call service script/hallway_lights_on. not a valid value for dictionary value @plucky token['entity_id']". This is after changing target -> data. Any idea? What is returned by the template looks identical to what I typed on the line above...

inner mesa May 11, 2021, 2:31 PM

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What is the state of the input_text?

pastel moon May 11, 2021, 2:40 PM

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You know what... You're a genius... !! I had forgot to define it in the Helpers... I thought of it as a kind of variable, not an entity... Thanks!! This unlocks much I have planned... 😄

ruby crane May 11, 2021, 8:29 PM

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I have a sunset sensor with the state 2021-05-11T21:12:55.988118+02:00, how do I extract the hour and minute from it?

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{{ as_timestamp(states('sensor.sunset')) | timestamp_custom('%H:%M') }}

jagged obsidian May 12, 2021, 9:23 AM

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in short don't use the old states definition

restive flume May 12, 2021, 9:23 AM

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does anyone know if it is possible to prevent a template from triggering this sort of warning in the logs?

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2021-05-12 18:20:49 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.helpers.template] Template variable warning: 'None' has no attribute 'state' when rendering '{% if states.media_player.yamaha_receiver.state %}{{ states.media_player.yamaha_receiver.attributes.source }}{% endif %}'

jagged obsidian May 12, 2021, 9:24 AM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/templating/#states

restive flume May 12, 2021, 9:25 AM

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ah! well that solves it.. no longer need the if either hopefully

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nice.. {{ state_attr('media_player.yamaha_receiver', 'source') }}

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easier to read

dark dome May 12, 2021, 3:33 PM

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Ok so I think I'm getting close to my goal finishing my light api project

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I used an api to monitor crypto prices and change the lights accordingly

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But now I need to get the hour to hour change from them

drowsy field May 12, 2021, 3:34 PM

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May I ask why I tried to access to my MQTT device sensors and get "Instance is not a number"?

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This is my snippet for MQTT part:

sensor 1:
  platform: mqtt
  name: "analog"
  state_topic: "M1"
  qos: 0
  unit_of_measurement: ""
  value_template: "{{ value_json.a }}"

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I just want to show it in a gauge in lovelace.

type: gauge
name: Usage
unit: '%'
entity: sensor.analog
min:0
max:100

fossil venture May 12, 2021, 4:19 PM

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You need a unit of measurement for it to be regarded as a number. Use a space instead of null, unit_of_measurement: " "

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It will still look like there is no unit.

grim flicker May 12, 2021, 4:48 PM

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Is there a way to make a template trigger which triggers when a entity_id is above a sensor value? On the Home assistant docs i only read examples about when it reaches a specific value

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I made a condition that should work: ``` condition:

"{{ state_attr('climate.tstat_3a71c8', 'current_temperature') |float < states('sensor.tstat_temperatuur_plus_1')| float }}"```
now i would like to make a trigger which actually almost does the same thing

inner mesa May 12, 2021, 4:51 PM

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The exact same thing

grim flicker May 12, 2021, 4:52 PM

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can i use that line also in a trigger

inner mesa May 12, 2021, 4:52 PM

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It’s a template that you can use in a template trigger

grim flicker May 12, 2021, 4:53 PM

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maybe a stupid question but would something like this work:

trigger:
- "{{ state_attr('climate.tstat_3a71c8', 'current_temperature') |float < states('sensor.tstat_temperatuur_plus_1')| float }}"

or does this way of coding only works with conditions

inner mesa May 12, 2021, 4:56 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/automation/trigger/#template-trigger

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Shorthand only works in conditions.

grim flicker May 12, 2021, 5:06 PM

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Just to be sure... and then im out of your hair... this should work:

  - platform: template
    value_template: "{{ state_attr('climate.tstat_3a71c8', 'current_temperature') |float > states('sensor.tstat_temperatuur_plus_1')| float }}"

i cant test the automation until the room temp is 1.5 degrees higher then the set temp.

inner mesa May 12, 2021, 5:08 PM

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You can. Set the state manually in devtools -> States

grim flicker May 12, 2021, 5:09 PM

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ok thanks

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ok it works! never knew that the defining state button overrides the values to test automations. When do they reset back? when the state is updated?

ivory delta May 12, 2021, 5:17 PM

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When the integration next sets it.

grim flicker May 12, 2021, 5:18 PM

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ok thanks. i learn something every day 🙂

ivory delta May 12, 2021, 5:18 PM

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Just wait until you hear about the API

grim flicker May 12, 2021, 5:26 PM

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i some apis to calculate the amount of rain and let google tell me if its going to rain. and show messages of home assistant on my lametric clock using local api's. I LOVE api's 😅

dusty hawk May 12, 2021, 7:58 PM

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Do areas have states like groups? I'm getting errors using groups as entities for light.turn_off. I have the following script I could use to use, but the wait_template needs a state to wait for. Do areas have states? ``` - condition: template
value_template: "{{ is_state(entity, 'on') }}"
- service: homeassistant.turn_off
data_template:
entity_id: "{{ entity }}"
- wait_template: "{{ is_state(entity, 'off') }}"
timeout: '00:02:00'

ivory delta May 12, 2021, 8:00 PM

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No

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Areas and groups aren't the same thing though. Use the group.

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What errors are you getting?