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fossil hearth Nov 23, 2020, 5:43 AM

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just wanted to make sure

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do i have to have something included in my config yaml ? for it to be working ?

inner mesa Nov 23, 2020, 5:44 AM

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As I recall, yes. But you’d need to consult the docs

fossil hearth Nov 23, 2020, 5:45 AM

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btw whats the deal with customizer ?

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am i using something old ?

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can customizer do what am intending to do therE?

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i think i have to add this no ?

customizer:
  custom_ui: local

in configuration.yaml?

inner mesa Nov 23, 2020, 5:47 AM

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That’s part of custom_ui

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You have to follow the instructions

fossil hearth Nov 23, 2020, 5:48 AM

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sure, Just one thing.

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when i add the line this is the error ..

inner mesa Nov 23, 2020, 5:48 AM

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Ok

fossil hearth Nov 23, 2020, 6:02 AM

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where should i put this ?

  custom_ui: local

since its not mentioned in the docs.

deft timber Nov 23, 2020, 7:39 AM

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directly in your configuration.yaml

fossil hearth Nov 23, 2020, 8:14 AM

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when i do it, it doesn't work : /

deft timber Nov 23, 2020, 9:02 AM

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what's you error?

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I notice that the code of the customizer calls the add_extra_html_url method on the frontend, which was removed on this ticket https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/39799

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Didn't saw your error above. Your error says it found a customize parameter in the configuration.yaml...

fossil phoenix Nov 23, 2020, 9:13 AM

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Hi, I’m putting my question in the right channel. I want to create a custom effect for my Mi Lightbulbs, to make them flicker. I want to randomize the time they stay on/off, but I can’t make the random number generator work. Here is my configuration, can someone help me?

         flow_params:
           count: 0
           transitions:
             - TemperatureTransition: [6500, 50, 50]
             - SleepTransition: ['{{ (range(50, 1500)|random) }}']
             - TemperatureTransition: [6500, 50, 0]
             - SleepTransition: ['{{ (range(50, 1500)|random) }}']

deft timber Nov 23, 2020, 9:20 AM

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I don't know this integration, but could you test this instead?
- SleepTransition: "{{ [range(50, 1500)|random] }}"
just a guess

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are you sure templates are allowed?

fossil phoenix Nov 23, 2020, 9:21 AM

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well, except for this random part, all my other templates work

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I’ll try that 🙂

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Nope, still got the same error:


Logger: homeassistant.components.hassio
Source: components/hassio/__init__.py:407
Integration: Hass.io (documentation, issues)
First occurred: 9:23:40 AM (1 occurrences)
Last logged: 9:23:40 AM
Invalid config for [yeelight]: expected int @ data['yeelight']['custom_effects'][3]['flow_params']['transitions'][1]['SleepTransition'][0]. Got '{'. (See /config/configuration.yaml, line 59). ```

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I feel like I should be able to put a random number there, but I’m using the wrong method to do it

deft timber Nov 23, 2020, 9:27 AM

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it says it is expecting an int, and that it had a template insteadd ({), really don't think you can use a template there

fossil phoenix Nov 23, 2020, 9:27 AM

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Oh

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Is there a way I can go around that?

deft timber Nov 23, 2020, 9:30 AM

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I personally don't see any

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except create a feature request 🙂

fossil phoenix Nov 23, 2020, 9:31 AM

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Well maybe in that case 😄

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Thanks for your help

ivory delta Nov 23, 2020, 12:27 PM

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fossil phoenix Hi, I’m putting my question in the right channel. I want to create a custom effe...

Try this:

transitions:
             - TemperatureTransition: [6500, 50, 50]
             - "SleepTransition: ['{{ (range(50, 1500)|random) }}']"```
I've seen people do similar. I think your problem will be that you weren't quoting the template.

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I haven't tested it myself. Never had any need to use a template mid-list.

fossil phoenix Nov 23, 2020, 12:42 PM

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Awesome that’s it!

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It works, thanks a lot!

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Woops nevermind, I don’t know why but it had reversed to the previous file version (no idea how) but was showing the modified version. I had to restart my browser for some reason and I saw that. Still get the same error even while quoting the line.

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(The previous version had a bunch of lines where I put the result of a few random.org runs for the delay, that’s why I thought it worked)

ivory delta Nov 23, 2020, 12:55 PM

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This is the conversation I remember: #templates-archived message

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See if you can spot the difference between yours and theirs. They claim to have it working.

deft timber Nov 23, 2020, 1:26 PM

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So, I was wrong 😆

ivory delta Nov 23, 2020, 2:43 PM

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We all get it wrong sometimes

ripe folio Nov 23, 2020, 3:07 PM

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Good day everyone

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I have a question, and I am unsure if a template will solve my problem or if I should do something else

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I have a sonoff 4ch pro for my 2 garage doors, the issue is the relay is on, then turns off

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I really have not status as to what the door is in ( besides my tilt sensors)

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 3:11 PM

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make a template cover

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use the tilt sensor as the state for the cover. for open/close use the relay's service

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if you want, you can make it a template switch instead. Doesn't matter, just make it what you want to have in your UI

ripe folio Nov 23, 2020, 3:14 PM

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I guess I'm looking for the most efficient way to set it up, I guess i just don't like that i would need to create a routine to have open or close essentially just turn on the relay, does that make sense?

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I'll look into a template cover, thank you.

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 3:46 PM

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@ripe folio it's not a 'routine'. You're creating an item that represents your device that you can use to control your device

ripe folio Nov 23, 2020, 3:46 PM

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I meant in Google Home or Alexa

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basically i say open or close and it sends an on

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 3:47 PM

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Yes, you can then use this 'fake device' in those and use proper voice skills, i.e. turn on or open

ripe folio Nov 23, 2020, 3:47 PM

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I feel like there is a better way..

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 3:47 PM

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but word to the wise... if someone knows that you have the device in your house and your house doesn't have great sound proofing. All they need to do is yell really loud and your garage door will open if they know the name of the device.

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There's not a better way

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do you want to say "open garage door"?

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if the answer is yes, the only way is a template cover.

ripe folio Nov 23, 2020, 3:49 PM

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plus feed that status to a tty like at 9 broadcast duma$$ left the garage door open

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I feel like I am looking for reasons to get into templating, but am having an issue understanding what for

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 3:50 PM

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that doesn't require the template cover. In order to use alexa's or googles built in "Alexa, open xyz" or "Hey google, open XYZ" you need to expose it as a cover device.

ripe folio Nov 23, 2020, 3:51 PM

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"cover"?

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 3:51 PM

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yes... with a template cover

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a cover is an opening and closing device in home assitant

ripe folio Nov 23, 2020, 3:52 PM

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ah device class?

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 3:52 PM

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no

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domain

ripe folio Nov 23, 2020, 3:52 PM

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hmm

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ok let me look that up

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 3:53 PM

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entity_id = domain.object_id. ex light.livingroom. light is the domain, livingroom is the object_id, together they make the entity_id light.livingroom

ripe folio Nov 23, 2020, 3:53 PM

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never heard of cover, this is an mqtt switch

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which you cannot define a class for

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 3:54 PM

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you can

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you can for mqtt as well

ripe folio Nov 23, 2020, 3:54 PM

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but it is a switch

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 3:54 PM

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that's how you defined it

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/cover.mqtt/

ripe folio Nov 23, 2020, 3:55 PM

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wow, there is just so much to know

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which is good

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i like flexibility but it paralyzes me

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 3:56 PM

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So if both the relay and tilt sensor are MQTT you can just make an MQTT cover. If they are from separate platforms, i.e. one is zwave and the other is mqtt then you have to make a template cover.

ripe folio Nov 23, 2020, 3:57 PM

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The tilt is zwave binary_sensor

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Ok, then you're stuck with template cover

silent barnBOT Nov 23, 2020, 3:59 PM

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@mighty ledge posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/x68qQpvvSp/

ripe folio Nov 23, 2020, 3:59 PM

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I used to define my mqtt but switched to discovery, the prefix isn't always homeassistant which is odd

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I'll have to figure out how to change it to a cover instead of a switch

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then maybe i won't even need the tilt sensor

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 4:00 PM

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no, you can't switch it to a cover. You'll need a template cover

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in order for the cover to work, you'll need a state which comes from zwave

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which is why I keep saying template cover.

ripe folio Nov 23, 2020, 4:01 PM

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f these messages are published with the retain flag set, the cover will receive an instant state update after subscription and Home Assistant will display the correct state on startup.

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 4:01 PM

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I even wrote the code, it's in that link

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https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/672223497736421388/780462494992039937

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You just need to change your entity_ids

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plop that into your config and restart

ripe folio Nov 23, 2020, 4:04 PM

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ok, I'll give that a go, Thanks, just curious why use json to get the value rather than yaml

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just curious

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It seems easier

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 4:05 PM

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uh, what are you talking about?

ripe folio Nov 23, 2020, 4:05 PM

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garage: value_template: > {{ is_state('binary_sensor.xxx', 'on') }}

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 4:05 PM

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that's jinja

ripe folio Nov 23, 2020, 4:06 PM

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oh

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 4:06 PM

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It's required if you want to access other states from HA

ripe folio Nov 23, 2020, 4:06 PM

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right templates use jinga, service calls and others use json

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 4:06 PM

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no...

ripe folio Nov 23, 2020, 4:06 PM

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lol

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 4:07 PM

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service calls use yaml

ripe folio Nov 23, 2020, 4:07 PM

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sorry man, I appreciate the help

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 4:07 PM

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everything is yaml

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templates use jinja

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so you'll only have a combination of jinja and yaml

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you can write yaml as objects. It looks like JSON but it's not

ripe folio Nov 23, 2020, 4:08 PM

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yeah you're right, i swear i recall seeing json somewhere

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ah maybr that is it

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 4:09 PM

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my_yaml:
  my_field:
    something: 4

is eqivalent to

my_yaml: {'my_field':{'something': 4}}

ripe folio Nov 23, 2020, 4:09 PM

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{"entity_id":"sensor.thingy"} is json no?

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 4:09 PM

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that's valid JSON but yaml accepts python objects

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which is not JSON

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fine line were walking here 😉

ripe folio Nov 23, 2020, 4:10 PM

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so your equivalent is jinja

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seems easier to write

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Jinja is a language

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JSON and YAML are a format

ripe folio Nov 23, 2020, 4:11 PM

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I'm an infrastructure guy, trying to #learntocode haha

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 4:11 PM

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Ya its cool

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it takes time

ripe folio Nov 23, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Do you know of an introductory course that could help with this, and truthfully there is more of this in my new job than I thought

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Not really unfortunately

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There's basically nothing for Jinja

ripe folio Nov 23, 2020, 4:13 PM

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It would be benefifical, I want to go into it without them assuming i know python or javascript etc.

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ok

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 4:13 PM

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JSON and Yaml are formats so there's tutorials all over the place but they'll be in random languages

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python will help you learn jinja

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I've never formally learned jinja but I knew python and the syntax is similar

ripe folio Nov 23, 2020, 4:14 PM

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but you can use these formats in a language? Doesn't the language dictate the format?

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 4:14 PM

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no, the library you use in the language dictates the format

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there are python libraries that read and write yaml, json, xml, html, etc

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same goes for every other coding language out there

ripe folio Nov 23, 2020, 4:19 PM

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So to dumb this down, for me, you have an array controller(language) you can apply passthrough or raid firmware to it(libraries) the disks are managed a certain way(format)

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 4:24 PM

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Well, i'm not sure what those things are

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Think of it as plugins

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software does xyz. If you want to do abc, you get the abc plugin

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I don't do networking stuff, so the hardware & it's functionalities escape me

ripe folio Nov 23, 2020, 4:27 PM

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That is how I feel here haha but slowly

silent barnBOT Nov 23, 2020, 4:28 PM

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@crystal urchin posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fcH44cBFpF/

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 4:29 PM

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@crystal urchin take a screenshot of sensor.op8_notification in the dev tools / states page

crystal urchin Nov 23, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Sure. give me a few to mark out some of the information

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Okay @mighty ledge - https://imgur.com/a/sRYY3qh

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 4:42 PM

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use this template:

      value_template: "{{ is_state_attr('sensor.op8_notification', 'android.messagingUser', 'android.app.Person@12345') }}"

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your attributes are named 'xxx.yyy' therefore you cannot use the stateobject to grab the attribute information.

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also, your result is not in brackets, so I removed them

crystal urchin Nov 23, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Thank you, will give that a test shortly. Looks like I copied the wrong value from the line below for the [] - thanks for noticing that too!

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Tested and confirmed working. Thank you Petro!!

stone kayak Nov 23, 2020, 8:17 PM

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hi all ..i m new here i neew some help about activating themes...

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Igot this error:Logger: homeassistant.components.hassio
Source: components/hassio/init.py:407
Integration: Home Assistant Supervisor (documentation, issues)
First occurred: 1:56:25 (5 occurrences)
Last logged: 3:05:52

Component error: themes - Integration 'themes' not found.

lunar breach Nov 23, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Hey quick question: I'm trying to format a datetime helper to markdown and don't know how to get it to work.

{{ (strptime(states('input_datetime.some_value'), '%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S').strftime('%H:%M:%S')) }}

I've tried using the value directly, passing it through strptime (as shown) and everytime I'm getting UndefinedError: 'str object' has no attribute 'strftime'. The documentation is pretty silent on datetime helpers and formatting. With now(), I don't get this error.
Does someone have a helpful hint, link or anything, that could help me?

ivory delta Nov 23, 2020, 9:42 PM

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The documentation has plenty on datetime stuff: https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/templating/

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You're probably looking for something like this (from the examples): {{ as_timestamp(states.binary_sensor.garage_door.last_changed) }}

lunar breach Nov 23, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Unfortunately, a strftime is missing there. I can either print out the full date and time including milliseconds or the UNIX timestamp. But I can't seem to get a custom format to work.

waxen rune Nov 23, 2020, 9:50 PM

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are there valid values in your input_datetime.some_value ?
I tried three ways:

{{ states('input_datetime.coffee_machine_start_time') }}
{{ state_attr('input_datetime.coffee_machine_start_time', 'timestamp') | timestamp_local }}
{{ (strptime(states('input_datetime.coffee_machine_start_time'), '%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S').strftime('%H:%M:%S')) }}```
and they all work fine

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2020-11-23 14:59:47
2020-11-23 14:59:47
14:59:47

lunar breach Nov 23, 2020, 9:53 PM

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From what I can see, the values are correct. But the output is still the same "UndefinedError".

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https://i.imgur.com/ykz9IXS.png

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oh wait

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So when I change it manually, the template works.

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So it probably has something to do with my automation, that sets the datetime

waxen rune Nov 23, 2020, 9:55 PM

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probably, yes

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I have one that sets the start time of the above coffee machine that works fine:

- service: input_datetime.set_datetime
  entity_id: input_datetime.coffee_machine_start_time
  data:
    datetime: "{{ now().strftime('%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S') }}"

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might wanna try something like that

lunar breach Nov 23, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Oh alright. I'm currently setting it something like this:

data:
  timestamp: "{{ as_timestamp(now()) + ((states('input_number.lavalampe_max_runtime') | float) * 60 * 60) }}"

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The calculation is the important part here

waxen rune Nov 23, 2020, 10:10 PM

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@lunar breach hmm.. still seems something's off in your parenthesis?

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include the as_timestamp in the float
{{ (as_timestamp(now()) + ((states('input_number.lavalampe_max_runtime')) | float) * 60 * 60) }}

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this one work fine for me:
{{ (as_timestamp(now()) + ((states('input_number.car_heater_hour')) | float) * 60 * 60) | timestamp_local }} that adds 8 hours to now()

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and input_number.car_heater_hour is 8

lunar breach Nov 23, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Weird...

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expected float for dictionary value @ data['timestamp']

waxen rune Nov 23, 2020, 10:19 PM

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when?

lunar breach Nov 23, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Either when I call the set_datetime service manually or when it is called via automation

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 10:26 PM

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@lunar breach if strptime is returning a string that means your format is wrong

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I should clarify, the erro you are getting is a result of strptime returning a string, meaning the format you are providing to strptime is wrong

waxen rune Nov 23, 2020, 10:30 PM

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I had to test a script:

test_set:
  alias: 'Test'
  sequence:
    - service: input_datetime.set_datetime
      entity_id: input_datetime.test
      data:
        timestamp: "{{ (as_timestamp(now()) + ((states('input_number.car_heater_hour')) | float) * 60 * 60) }}"

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that one works fine

lunar breach Nov 23, 2020, 10:32 PM

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Okay, the hint from @mighty ledge got me somewhere:
Doing this ... abomination ... does yield me the right results:

{{ (strptime(states('input_datetime.unlock_lavalampe'), '%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S.%f').strftime('%H:%M:%S')) }}

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the .%f in the format was required

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Although I still don't get why I have to convert dates back and forth to get this to work. Does HA store dates and times just as strings somewhere?

waxen rune Nov 23, 2020, 10:33 PM

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I'd say you don't need to. Are you mixing up datetimeand timestamp when you set your value?

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in my examples above I show both

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Gotta go. Good luck!

lunar breach Nov 23, 2020, 10:34 PM

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This is the automation step I take:

service: input_datetime.set_datetime
data:
  timestamp: >-
    {{ (as_timestamp(now()) + ((states('input_number.lavalampe_sperrzeit')) |
    float) * 60 * 60) }}
entity_id: input_datetime.unlock_lavalampe

Which works

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 10:35 PM

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why are you converting back and forth for this template anyways?

lunar breach Nov 23, 2020, 10:35 PM

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I want to have only the time being displayed in a Markdown widget

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 10:36 PM

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thats a simple split {{ states('input_datetime.unlock_lavalampe').split(' ')[-1].split('.')[0] }}

lunar breach Nov 23, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Oh... yeah I tend to think to complicated :D

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 10:37 PM

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only convert if you need to adjust the time

lunar breach Nov 23, 2020, 10:38 PM

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I didn't expect that I would just get a string back originally. I hoped that I could get any format I want.

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 10:39 PM

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are you planning on posting the date in your markdown card at somepoint?

lunar breach Nov 23, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Pardon?

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 10:41 PM

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are you planning on displaying the date in the markdown card too?

lunar breach Nov 23, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Oh

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Not for this case but I can see that I would be using it somewhere else at which point I would go back and copy-paste the code around.

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But suppose I would: What would the "right" approach be if I would need a format like dd/mmm/yyyy instead (so I also get the month name)

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 10:44 PM

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{% set y, m, d = states('input_datetime.unlock_lavalampe').split(' ')[0].split('-') %}
{{ d }}/{{ m }}/{{ y }}

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or your conversion thing

lunar breach Nov 23, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Okay the set part I should probably remember

mighty ledge Nov 23, 2020, 10:45 PM

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{{ (strptime(states('input_datetime.unlock_lavalampe'), '%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S.%f').strftime('%d/%m/%Y')) }}

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read up on Jinja

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it's the language being used

lunar breach Nov 23, 2020, 10:47 PM

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I will. Thanks for the help 👍

silent barnBOT Nov 23, 2020, 10:52 PM

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@lunar breach posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fhnFn6ZTB2/

silent barnBOT Nov 24, 2020, 12:57 PM

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@leaden onyx posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NVQdd44DxP/

leaden onyx Nov 24, 2020, 12:58 PM

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Coming from #automations-archived, thanks to @arctic sorrel I'm this far, now. See above.

silent barnBOT Nov 24, 2020, 1:00 PM

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@leaden onyx Rule #6: Spam will not be tolerated, including but not limited to: self-promotion, flooding, text walls (longer than 15 lines) and unapproved bots.

Please take the time now to review all of the rules and references in #rules.

leaden onyx Nov 24, 2020, 1:00 PM

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Sorry.

mighty ledge Nov 24, 2020, 1:05 PM

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@leaden onyx it will only trigger if the value turns from false to true

leaden onyx Nov 24, 2020, 1:13 PM

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I took down the smoke warner, so I can warm it up with my hands and let it cool down for testing.

leaden onyx Nov 24, 2020, 1:40 PM

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Deleted the automation and created it, again. Now it works. Many thanks. I really appreciate your help.

misty pasture Nov 24, 2020, 5:17 PM

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So I have a rest_command entity like this:

method: POST
content_type: 'application/json'
payload: '{"command":"{{ command }}"}'```

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Is it possible to have it evaluate a template in my command shown below somehow?

  action: call-service
  service: rest_command.my_service
  service_data:
    command: '{{input_text.my_command}}'

mighty ledge Nov 24, 2020, 6:33 PM

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@misty pasture make a script and call the script from the action

elder moon Nov 24, 2020, 8:59 PM

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i want to get an attribute (long string with shorter strings divided by comma), split it into shorter strings (like python split(',') function and then iterate through each of them

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or alternatively run a proper regexp on whole long string

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any tips how can i bite this ?

ivory delta Nov 24, 2020, 9:04 PM

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You can use .split() in templates 🙂

teal cove Nov 24, 2020, 9:49 PM

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I got a problem with a template.
using this syntax, it works fine:

    - service: telegram_bot.send_message
      data:
        target: [xxxxxxxxx,yyyyyyyyy]

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but I want to template it to sth like

        target: >
          {% if yadiyada -%}
            [xxxxxxxxx,yyyyyyyyy]
          {%- else -%}
            [xxxxxxxxx]
          {%- endif %}
``` but I get an error saying `test: Error executing script. Invalid data for call_service at pos 2: expected int @ data['target'][0]`

ivory delta Nov 24, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Are the xxx and yyy numbers?

teal cove Nov 24, 2020, 10:02 PM

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yes ofc

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just censored on discord

ivory delta Nov 24, 2020, 10:03 PM

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It's probably seeing that whole row as a string. Try returning it from a template:

          {% if yadiyada -%}
          {{ [xxxxxxxxx,yyyyyyyyy] }}
          {%- else -%}
          {{ [xxxxxxxxx] }}
          {%- endif %}```

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Dumb bot.

teal cove Nov 24, 2020, 10:04 PM

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tried that already ☹️

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same error message

ivory delta Nov 24, 2020, 10:06 PM

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What version of HA are you on?

teal cove Nov 24, 2020, 10:07 PM

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0.117.2, supervised, raspbian

ivory delta Nov 24, 2020, 10:07 PM

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You'll need 0.118 to get native data types out of templates.

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Before that, every template returned a string.

teal cove Nov 24, 2020, 10:07 PM

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haha really? :D what a coincidence, that one release, just in time :D

ivory delta Nov 24, 2020, 10:08 PM

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😉

teal cove Nov 24, 2020, 10:08 PM

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okay I will update and return with my findings

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thanks

teal cove Nov 24, 2020, 11:05 PM

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It works! 👏

silent barnBOT Nov 25, 2020, 6:50 AM

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@glad moth posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tcfM7fdqd9/

glad moth Nov 25, 2020, 6:51 AM

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Would anyone be able to help correct my code here? I get an error that says invalid config for binary sensor, extra key not allowed. I want the sensor to be on when the living room stereo is on, and off when the living room stereo is off

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See code wall above or if you can see what's wrong from this snippit that's cool too - platform: 'value_template' prob_given_true: 0 prob_given_false: 1.0 value_template: >- {{ is_state('media_player.living_room','off') }}

waxen rune Nov 25, 2020, 7:05 AM

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@glad moth It seems you are overcomplicating things. "I want the sensor to be on when the living room stereo is on, and off when the living room stereo is off"
That's basically the first example in https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/binary_sensor.template/

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Like

binary_sensor:
  - platform: template
    sensors:
      power_on:
        friendly_name: "Power is on"
        value_template: >-
          {{ is_state('media_player.living_room','on') }}

glad moth Nov 25, 2020, 7:36 AM

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You’re right! It basically is. Thanks so much, I need to go to bed haha

silent barnBOT Nov 25, 2020, 8:21 AM

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@steep lava posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/j8sr6h6NzJ/

steep lava Nov 25, 2020, 8:24 AM

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I created this script for turning on some dimmers. If the sun is up, they will be set to 100 percent. If the script is called after sunset then they will be set to 35 percent. The problem is the script takes about 10 seconds to run. The relays all turn on immediately, but the dimmers are delayed until the end of the script.

nocturne chasm Nov 25, 2020, 12:33 PM

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Well, automations and scripts work in order so it depends on what you want. You could adjust each lights dimmer after you turn it in or prob even with the on event

steep lava Nov 25, 2020, 5:08 PM

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I tried placing the dimmer action at the beginning of the script and they still end up turning on 10 seconds after everything else. Then I substituted for a different set of dimmers and it still took just as long

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Maybe I should ditch HA scripts and tie a scene into node red. Too bad scenes can’t handle templates because they are fast and work great

minor crater Nov 25, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Wouldn't the scene be calling the same services as the script?

mighty ledge Nov 25, 2020, 5:30 PM

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pretty much...

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some people like node-red because it's easier

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for them

minor crater Nov 25, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Was more curious about why they were seeing a delay in their script but not in applying a scene.

mighty ledge Nov 25, 2020, 5:50 PM

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it depends on the hardware and the mode he's using for the script

slate tundra Nov 25, 2020, 6:16 PM

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in templates like this {{ trigger.entity_id == 'sensor.illuminance_1_power' }} can i use wildcards like: {{ trigger.entity_id == 'sensor.*power' }} ??

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or how do i represent any sensor that ends in the name with "power"

ivory delta Nov 25, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Something like this, HellCry:
{{ 'sensor.my_power'.split('.')[1].endswith('power') }}

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In your case, just test directly against trigger.entity_id, not the string I hardcoded in.

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.startswith(string) also works in case you wanted to check the beginning of a name (maybe you prefix all sensors with the name of the room they're in).

deft timber Nov 25, 2020, 6:44 PM

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Or you can use regex_match

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{{ trigger.entity_id | regex_match(“sensor\..*power$”)}}

ivory delta Nov 25, 2020, 7:22 PM

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Just don't use those funky quotes 😄

slate tundra Nov 25, 2020, 8:43 PM

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@ivory delta , @deft timber thank you

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will try

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if regex works then is perfect

wicked ember Nov 25, 2020, 9:18 PM

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Hello 🙂 I'm trying to extract unnamed JSON attributes into various sensors depending on nested attributes. If at all possible, I'd love to have all the values in a single sensor with attributes, but multiple sensors would do as well. Here's an example JSON output: https://hastebin.com/esifiboyox.json

ivory delta Nov 25, 2020, 9:18 PM

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Which bit are you trying to read?

wicked ember Nov 25, 2020, 9:18 PM

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FraksjonsId is the unique identifier to which I can map named sensors (or attributes)

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And then I want at least the first entry inside "Tommedatoer" for each element

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That would be the sensor state

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And the name would be specified according to FraksjonsId

ivory delta Nov 25, 2020, 9:19 PM

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The unnamed bits are just array items. Something like {{ value_json[0].Tommedatoer[0] }} would give you the first value.

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Assigning it to sensors... that's an #integrations-archived thing.

wicked ember Nov 25, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Yeah, I feared as much. I've got a solution similar to what you suggested for two sensors right now. Except it goes like this:

  value_template: >
    {% for entry in value_json %}
      {% if entry.FraksjonId == 3 %}
        {{ entry.Tommedatoer[0] }}
      {% endif %}
    {% endfor %}

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But the system changed and I need 5 sensors instead of 2. Feels wrong to send 5 separate requests for the same data

ivory delta Nov 25, 2020, 9:21 PM

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That looks... awful.

wicked ember Nov 25, 2020, 9:21 PM

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😦

ivory delta Nov 25, 2020, 9:21 PM

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You want them in order then?

wicked ember Nov 25, 2020, 9:21 PM

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I need to map FraksjonsId to manually specified names

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But they aren't always in the same order in the response JSON

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I guess if it's possible to sort the array by FraksjonsId I could use static indexes

ivory delta Nov 25, 2020, 9:22 PM

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You could probably use the built-in Jinja filter to sort: https://jinja.palletsprojects.com/en/2.10.x/templates/#sort

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Maybe... I'm not that familiar with Jinja.

wicked ember Nov 25, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Interesting 🙂 I'll play around with it in the template editor

ivory delta Nov 25, 2020, 9:23 PM

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It lets you sort on an attribute, judging by the docs. Sort by 'FraksjonsId'

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Once sorted, just pick an item by index (i.e. list[0] is the first item in list).

wicked ember Nov 25, 2020, 9:24 PM

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Sounds good! I'm gonna test that. How would I go about assigning all of those to attributes or separate sensors from the same rest sensor?

ivory delta Nov 25, 2020, 9:26 PM

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That's where you need to jump over to #integrations-archived

wicked ember Nov 25, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Fair enough. Thanks for your help so far!

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Hmm. {{ x | sort(attribute="FraksjonsId") }} just outputs the JSON as it was, with no changes

ivory delta Nov 25, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Works for me...

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Wait... Nope 😦

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I can't count 🤣

wicked ember Nov 25, 2020, 9:30 PM

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😅

ivory delta Nov 25, 2020, 9:31 PM

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FraksjonsId or FraksonId? Your original paste had the latter...

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If you put this into devtools > Templates, you'll see it sorts them: https://hastebin.com/uvukopetup.lua

wicked ember Nov 25, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Oh, you're right! I actually misspelled it

ivory delta Nov 25, 2020, 9:33 PM

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😉

wicked ember Nov 25, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Nicely spotted 😄

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Thanks again, ahead to #integrations-archived I go

gloomy bear Nov 25, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Hi guys, i've created a template sensor to mirror the value from a temperature entity from my home weather station. I want to sync it to my google assistant ecosystem via nabu casa but it doesn't appear in the list of available entities to sync. Any idea why this would be? Something related to it being a template entity instead of a real entity?

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Haha! I found the problem. I had to set the "device_class" to "temperature"

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OK new question.. The problem I was attempting to fix is that my temperature sensor, when synced to google, and I ask google "whats the temp" will say "it is 80 degrees, and the weatherstation temp is off". The part about being off makes no sense because its a temperature sensor and always on and I don't want google to say that. Is there a way to extract only the temperature data and not the on/off state from the actual entity for use in my template sensor?

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This is the relevant code now value_template: "{{ states('sensor.my_weather_station_temp') }}"

ivory delta Nov 25, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Either that's not all of the template or there's more config you haven't shared.

gloomy bear Nov 25, 2020, 10:33 PM

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`# Weather Station Template Sensor

platform: template
sensors:
weatherstation_temp:
friendly_name: "Weather Station Temp"
icon_template: mdi:thermometer
value_template: "{{ state_attr('sensor.my_weather_station_temp') }}"
unique_id: "weatherstation_temp"
unit_of_measurement: "temperature"
device_class: "temperature"`

ivory delta Nov 25, 2020, 10:33 PM

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But since that template looks good... it's probably your #integrations-archived that are the problem.

gloomy bear Nov 25, 2020, 10:34 PM

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I changed it to state_attr just now

ivory delta Nov 25, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Specifically whatever shares the info with Google.

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Yeah... that's wrong.

gloomy bear Nov 25, 2020, 10:34 PM

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yeah doesnt work lol

ivory delta Nov 25, 2020, 10:34 PM

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🪨 🪨

gloomy bear Nov 25, 2020, 10:34 PM

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I'm trying to get it to only pass through the temperature value, not the on/off value

ivory delta Nov 25, 2020, 10:35 PM

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#templates-archived message

gloomy bear Nov 25, 2020, 10:35 PM

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So theres no way to do this using template syntax?

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I'm not a programmer so this is at the limits of my abilities

ivory delta Nov 25, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Your sensor looks fine. It's nothing to do with the template you shared.

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You haven't said how it talks to Google... but that's an #integrations-archived discussion at this point.

gloomy bear Nov 25, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Well its nabu casa

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I don't think I can change anything on that front

ivory delta Nov 25, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Okay... so try #voice-assistants-archived for help. Not a template.

gloomy bear Nov 25, 2020, 10:37 PM

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I'm still thinking there is something I can do in template though. Because the state syntax returns each state sorted alphabetically

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statesi mean

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So theres two states, one for the temperature value, and anothoer for the on/off value

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I just want to return the temperature value

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hmmm but yet when I look at the state and attributes in the developer tools it only yields the temperature value so I dunno maybe ur right about the integration being screwed up, but I can't fix that sadly

ivory delta Nov 25, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Each entity in HA has a single state. In your case, it appears to be a temperature.

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It may also have attributes... but that's got nothing to do with the template you shared.

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And who knows what you can control? You haven't actually bothered to ask in the right channel yet.

gloomy bear Nov 25, 2020, 10:46 PM

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yeah, I figured that out now, the state_attr would return the attribute value

ivory delta Nov 25, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Go to #voice-assistants-archived, see what they suggest.

gloomy bear Nov 25, 2020, 10:47 PM

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I was just trying to solve it with template syntax if possible, I appreciate your help

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More of a learning project for me

stuck kelp Nov 26, 2020, 11:29 AM

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Trying to work out if any of a list of entities is on.
I worked out:

is_state("light.kitchen_2", "on") +
is_state("light.living_1", "on") +
is_state("light.living_2", "on") }}

But as expected, that sums the boolean instead of being more like OR gates.

Is there a better way without creating a new group?

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Replacing the + with and or looks to be the trick. Still wondering if there is a better way 🙂

mighty ledge Nov 26, 2020, 11:49 AM

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@stuck kelp why don't you want to create a group? it makes it easier.

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{{ expand('group.xxx') | selectattr('state','eq','on') | list | count != 0 }}

deft timber Nov 26, 2020, 11:55 AM

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or you can do {{[states.light.kitchen_1, states.light.kitchen_2] | selectattr('state','eq','on') | list | count > 0}}

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or
{{[states("light.kitchen_1"), states("light.kitchen_2")] | select('eq','on') | list | count > 0}}

stuck kelp Nov 26, 2020, 12:00 PM

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Don't want a group because I won't ever acuate it.
It's just to change another light if any one of those are on.

I do think you're right though. Logic on a group is group == 1: if any in group on

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I like the list notation. Might use that for this. (BTW this is Node Red, so Im scared to think there is a better way in NR too haha)

ivory delta Nov 26, 2020, 12:23 PM

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You don't have to actuate a group for a group to be useful.

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You're picking the harder way to do something that already has a simple solution.

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You don't build a car from scratch every time you want to drive somewhere, right?

marble jackal Nov 26, 2020, 1:59 PM

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mighty ledge ``` {{ expand('group.xxx') | selectattr('state','eq','on') | list | count != 0 }...

Thing like this is why I'm frequently visiting this channel, thanks!

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Comparison of what I had, and what I could change it to: https://hastebin.com/ayoqoquvim.pl

mighty ledge Nov 26, 2020, 2:05 PM

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@stuck kelp managing an if then template is harder than managing a group. And you can make a automation that manages the group for you.

stuck kelp Nov 26, 2020, 2:08 PM

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True, well put. I'll throw them into a group.
Was a good education in templating though

hallow mesa Nov 27, 2020, 6:44 AM

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Hi everyone, i'm using the ResRobot integration an got a sensor from it with a name that has a dynamic and static part and i wanna remove the static part. It generates a name like: "Länstrafik - Buss 123" or "Länstrafik - Buss 321" and i wanna remove the "Länstrafik - "-part. So i wrote this: {{ state_attr('sensor.avgang_b', 'name') | string|regex_replace(find='Länstrafik - ', replace='')}} which seems to work fine when i test it in the developertools but i cant seem to get it right when using it as a template

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This is the complete card where i wanna change the name:

silent barnBOT Nov 27, 2020, 6:47 AM

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@hallow mesa posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5nq25rWvVy/

north locust Nov 27, 2020, 8:09 AM

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timestamp_custom('%d-%m-%y') <--- outputting year in 20 how to get 2020 ? %yyyy ?

deft timber Nov 27, 2020, 8:10 AM

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https://strftime.org/

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%Y

north locust Nov 27, 2020, 8:10 AM

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thnks man

north locust Nov 27, 2020, 8:43 AM

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made this template but its outputting the top one constantly ?

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https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/ZV2FBR4tRZ/

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if dates match --> output which container

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else None

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the sensors. conditions are in the same date format

north locust Nov 27, 2020, 9:31 AM

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simplified it

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but not working

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https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/tXZwKzkrMX/

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if sensor reaches 0 it needs to give the name

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but remains 0

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remains None

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i mean

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1 sensor is 0

hallow mesa Nov 27, 2020, 10:08 AM

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{% if is_state('sensor.gft', '0' %} should work

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no it shouldnt, since i didnt type all characters...

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{% if is_state('sensor.gft', '0') %}

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Gft

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{% elif is_state('sensor.pmd', '0') %}

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Plastic

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{% elif is_state('sensor.restafval', '0') %}

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Restafval

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{% else %}

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None

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{% endif %}

north locust Nov 27, 2020, 10:22 AM

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forgot the '0'

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colons

untold garnet Nov 27, 2020, 1:13 PM

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I bought Tuya curtains/covers windows controllers. I want to add it to HA with slider. Does anyone know how to do it?

deft timber Nov 27, 2020, 2:46 PM

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I guess with Tuya integration 🙂

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/tuya/

sonic nimbus Nov 27, 2020, 9:27 PM

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anybody knows this type of error in my logs: ```The 'entity_id' option is deprecated, please remove it from your configuration
Home Assistant is starting, not everything will be available until it is finished.

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Integration:template

sonic nimbus Nov 27, 2020, 9:56 PM

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I want to set for my wardobe colors based on tempereture outside

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https://hastebin.com/uzorowupov.bash

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should I cast to float these conditions or to int?

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and what is correct syntax for rgb_color?

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instead of just string "violet"?

mighty ledge Nov 28, 2020, 12:17 AM

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@sonic nimbus the error message is telling you what to do

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@sonic nimbus rgb color expects a list that represents [red, green, blue] in ints that range 0 to 255

zinc sable Nov 28, 2020, 4:08 AM

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hi, I am working on a replacement/improvement of the “Alexa connect” device (https://www.pocket-lint.com/smart-home/news/amazon/142408-what-is-amazon-echo-connect-and-how-does-it-make-calls). I have developed a home assistant replacement, that will announce through Alexa, the caller's phone number, give you their number location using geocoding from Google's phonenumbers (https://github.com/google/libphonenumber), and provide the caller’s name from their phone number in your contacts. If the caller is not in your contacts, Alexa only announces what is directly provided by the callerid and the geocode information.

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I got our Google voice phone working completely with all the Alexa announcements described above using an obi202 google voice adapter and the home assistant obihai integration which provides caller callerid info. I am working on extending to wifeys and my cell phone, I have the caller’s number from our cellphones forwarded to HA by tasker. I have run into one problem which escapes me, I can’t get a sensor template for the caller's phone number in the same format to use the same programing for both cellphones and google phone.

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Ideally, I need phone number for input into my program in the following format +1XXXXXXXXXX which both the google geocoding program and my contacts dictionary lookup will accept.
I need to convert the obi phone adapter from format xxxxxxxxxx which requires adding a "+1" in front of the phone number.

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platform: template
sensors:
prefixed_caller_number:
value_template: "{{ '+''1' + states('sensor.all_caller_number') }}"

#

where sensor.all_caller_number is provided by the obihai integration and the desired formatted number is "prefixed_caller_number".

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I get the proper result from the template developer tools e.g. +18004564567, but the value of sensor.prefixed_caller_number is 18004564567, that is, no "+" in the front. I have tried all varieties of quotes, {{}}}, and \ before and around the plus thinking it’s a problem with the + not being escaped.

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I can get either cellphones or google voice phone to work but not both at the same time by doing the phone number formatting in my python script, but I need the above common format for both to work with the same script.

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any ideas why I can add a plus to the front of my sensor value?

waxen rune Nov 28, 2020, 10:45 AM

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@zinc sable It seems like HA is converting the string to a float (?) if it can be interpreted as that. Even thought it doesn't care if you set a formatting like '{0:+6d}'.format(xx).

If I put this in template and shoot that into a persistent notification:

    test_tmpl:
      value_template: "{{ '+' + (state_attr('sensor.sval_humidity_2', 'lastUpdated') | string ) + }}"

I get 1606551375.

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But if I put in the same thing twice, making sure it can't be number:

    test_tmpl:
      value_template: "{{ '+' + (state_attr('sensor.sval_humidity_2', 'lastUpdated') | string ) + '+' + (state_attr('sensor.sval_humidity_2', 'lastUpdated') | string )}}"

I get :
+1606551375+1606551375

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I'm sure there is a work around for this. If you find it, please report back.

mighty ledge Nov 28, 2020, 12:21 PM

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don't need a work around, just correct syntax. Change '+''1' to '+1'

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er wait, lemme try in 118

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Nope, the + is seen as part of the number

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if you place a space between the + and the 1 it's seen as a string

ivory delta Nov 28, 2020, 12:34 PM

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If it hadn't been for them pesky native types

mighty ledge Nov 28, 2020, 12:34 PM

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@waxen rune using | string does nothing btw, the new template changes do not look at the template at all. It's a function that's applied after you get the result back.

ivory delta Nov 28, 2020, 12:34 PM

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I've seen a few people with use cases that don't play well with the native type change.

mighty ledge Nov 28, 2020, 12:34 PM

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there are plenty

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best thing to do is to document them through an issue

ivory delta Nov 28, 2020, 12:34 PM

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Someone wanted the string 'None' back from a template. You can imagine that didn't work well 🤣

mighty ledge Nov 28, 2020, 12:35 PM

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what happened? Errors?

ivory delta Nov 28, 2020, 12:35 PM

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The usual complaints from HA about NoneType

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It saw 'None' and turned it into None

mighty ledge Nov 28, 2020, 12:37 PM

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Lol, in the template editor it returns nothing

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no complaint either

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in the 0.119 dev build

ivory delta Nov 28, 2020, 12:39 PM

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Yeah, returning nothing is the problem. I think it only blows up when it runs through voluptuous and doesn't see the type it's expecting.

mighty ledge Nov 28, 2020, 12:40 PM

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So I'm pretty sure there is a change going through with template sensors & value_templates

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where it doesn't do the typing

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because a sensors value is always a string

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I wrote this issue up a week or 2 ago https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/43397

waxen rune Nov 28, 2020, 12:54 PM

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A trade off for making it easier for most use cases is making it harder for a few edge cases I guess.

For the one question above I tested out like ten variants, while reading up on Python formats. They all worked fine showing + before the number as long as there were another template in the test box, but they all broke when I tried one by one. As you said, "It's a function that's applied after you get the result back." and it seems that also applies in the template box. Maybe by design, but not very intuitive while troubleshooting 🙂

mighty ledge Nov 28, 2020, 12:55 PM

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it's applied to the entire returned response

waxen rune Nov 28, 2020, 12:55 PM

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exactly. took me a while to see that 🙂

mighty ledge Nov 28, 2020, 12:55 PM

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so if you do {{ 'a' }} dklsjfldskj {{ 'b' }}. They are not separately resolved

waxen rune Nov 28, 2020, 12:56 PM

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a typical edge case where it would have made sense to test the templates in separate windows/boxes/instances

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just didn't think of that then

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for those, it would be convenient to have like "please resolve this natively, without making assumptions"-function

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like the other example with None and I guess there are other

mighty ledge Nov 28, 2020, 12:59 PM

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That might be nice but you'd need to know where native typing is not used. Currently it's used everywhere

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so, turning it off would actually hurt you

waxen rune Nov 28, 2020, 1:04 PM

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for the example above, I would have added a space and then trying to trim that in the next step. is there an obvious better way?

mighty ledge Nov 28, 2020, 1:06 PM

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what do you mean, trim that in the next step?

waxen rune Nov 28, 2020, 1:07 PM

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If I want the number including the leading + to be used in an automation for example, I assume I could.. no, it will still be resolved as a... forget it. not thinking all the way.,

mighty ledge Nov 28, 2020, 1:07 PM

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exactly

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its only applied at the end

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trimming it or doing anything in the template won't work

faint mural Nov 28, 2020, 1:32 PM

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i can't get my template sensor rounded
This is my sensor from the integrations
sensor.solaredge_current_power
I want to round without decimals.
This is what i created
value_template: '{{ states.sensor.solaredge_current_power | round(0) }}'
But this is not working, anyone has a clue?

waxen rune Nov 28, 2020, 1:35 PM

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"{{ states('sensor.solaredge_current_power') | round (0)}}"

faint mural Nov 28, 2020, 1:36 PM

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let's try

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yes! thx @waxen rune

faint mural Nov 28, 2020, 1:56 PM

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and if i want to divide by 1000?
"{{ states('sensor.solaredge_current_power') /1000 | round (0)}}" is not working

waxen rune Nov 28, 2020, 2:02 PM

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if you want to calculate, you need to tell it to treat the string as a float (number) before the calculation and use parenthesis to make sure the calc and round is done in correct order. I'd try something like this:
{{ (states('sensor.solaredge_current_power') | float / 1000) | round (0)}}

marble jackal Nov 28, 2020, 2:04 PM

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faint mural and if i want to divide by 1000? "{{ states('sensor.solaredge_current_power') /1...

Furthermore, the round(0) is resolved first now, so this will first round 1000 to 1000 and then use that rounded value in the calculation

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Oh, I should have read the entire message of boneheadfraggle 😎

faint mural Nov 28, 2020, 2:16 PM

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i recieve an error.
Error loading /config/configuration.yaml: invalid key: "OrderedDict([("(states('sensor.solaredge_current_power') | float / 1000) | round (0)", None)])"
in "/config/sensor.yaml", line 117, column 0

waxen rune Nov 28, 2020, 2:21 PM

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did you try it in Dev Tools?

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as far as I can see, it should work. there may be something else wrong in the sensor config so please share the complete config for the sensor, using correct formatting

faint mural Nov 28, 2020, 2:25 PM

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how can I format correctly here?

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solar_panels_current:
      friendly_name: "Current power"
      value_template: {{ (states('sensor.solaredge_current_power') | float / 1000) | round (0)}}
      unit_of_measurement: 'kW'

waxen rune Nov 28, 2020, 2:28 PM

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you forgot the "

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when not using multi-row templates, you need " around

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value_template: "{{ (states('sensor.solaredge_current_power') | float / 1000) | round (0)}}"

faint mural Nov 28, 2020, 2:29 PM

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ok let's try

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thx again

zinc sable Nov 28, 2020, 4:01 PM

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Thanks folks all for your input on my “+” templating problem, consulted with my two sons, and they came up with a solution in python which I can use the same script for both cell phones and google voice phone

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My sons were not terribly excited about my project initially when it was only with google landline-like voip phone, but when I got it working with cellphones, they thought it was great idea.

nimble marsh Nov 28, 2020, 5:50 PM

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@sonic nimbus Something like
value_template: "{{ ( as_timestamp(state_attr('calendar.stefan', 'start_time')) - as_timestamp(now()) ) if state_attr('calendar.stefan', 'start_time') else 123 }}"
should result in the value being 123 if the state of calendar.stefan's start_time is None, else if it isn't None, the value will be calculated as normal.

umbral pond Nov 28, 2020, 7:22 PM

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I am trying to template an inline keyboard of a telegram notification - which I don't know if it's even possible to do, but this is what I have so far , which seems to be syntactically correct. However I am getting an error when executing my automation:
https://hastebin.com/ohufuzibeg.php

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the error I get is Button_data_invalid

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I have also tried using | instead of > next to inline_keyboard to no avail

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I've also put the inline_keyboard part in the template and it doesn't seem malformed. The output is what you'd expect to work:

Output:
inline_keyboard: >
  - 'Living room - Override:/overrideone'
  - 'Kitchen - Override:/overridetwo'
  - 'Bedroom - Override:/overridethree'

slate osprey Nov 29, 2020, 12:24 AM

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I'm trying to play a random mp3 every whole hour, but my template doesn't work

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      media_content_id: >
        {% set address = 'http://192.168.1.10:8123/local/kvitter/' %}
        {% set birdlist = ['blames1.mp3', 'blames2.mp3', 'bofink1.mp3', 'bofink2.mp3', 'gardsmyg1.mp3', 'gardsmyg2.mp3', 'gronsiska1.mp3', 'gronsiska2.mp3', 'gulsparv1.mp3', 'gulsparv2.mp3', 'koltrast1.mp3', 'koltrast2.mp3', 'lovsangare1.mp3', 'lovsangare2.mp3', 'talgoxe1.mp3', 'talgoxe2.mp3', 'tradkrypare1.mp3', 'tradkrypare2.mp3', 'tradlarka1.mp3', 'tradlarka2.mp3'] %}
        {% set rng = range(20) | random %}
        {% set outputstring = address + birdlist[rng] %}
        {{outputstring}}

slate osprey Nov 29, 2020, 12:40 AM

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I solved it, the problem wasn't the template

sly urchin Nov 29, 2020, 1:12 AM

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Hi I've been trying to get this to work for a while now if anyone can help I'd be appreciative! In an automation to send a notification containing the value of the input.number

service: input_number.set_value
data_template:
  value: "{{ trigger.from_state.state|int - trigger.to_state.state|int }}"
entity_id: input_number_weight_difference```

wide topaz Nov 29, 2020, 1:37 AM

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@slate osprey what was it

nocturne chasm Nov 29, 2020, 5:51 AM

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@sly urchin , without seeing your whole automation, it is kinda hard. Either send me a dm or share you whole automation.

silent barnBOT Nov 29, 2020, 5:51 AM

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@sly urchin Please use https://paste.ubuntu.com/ or https://www.hastebin.com/ to share code or logs.

sly urchin Nov 29, 2020, 11:00 AM

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thanks for replying, here is the full automation.. https://hastebin.com/vafobulasa.yaml

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I now have the same "state is undefined" error from this, I will try with the actual scales though as it may have been my test counter as the trigger being the issue

autumn tendon Nov 29, 2020, 11:17 AM

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Hi i'm sending a MQTT message to my HA in this format {"celcius":17.3,"co":400,"eth":18818,"h2":13510,"humid":67,"id":"Room Env Sensor","tvoc":0} i know my HA is receiving this message because when i create a sensor ```
sensor room_temp:

platform: mqtt
name: "Room Sensor"
state_topic: "temp"

the whole string is displayed. How can i manipulate this string so i can use each value separate ? do i need a REST template or do i need to split ?

naive nymph Nov 29, 2020, 11:32 AM

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Currently making me my partner's hero:

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    sensors:
      master_fan_conditions:
        friendly_name: "Master Fan Conditions"
        delay_off:
          seconds: 10
        value_template: >-
          {{ is_state('binary_sensor.magnus_sleeping', 'on')
             or is_state('binary_sensor.clare_sleeping', 'on')
             or states('sensor.master_bath_humidity')|float > 75 }}```

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the bedroom fan is a subject of contention and she didn't want me automating it. My challenge was improving on the simple on-off switch and have it running under any of the conditions that she's able to throw at me. This template will grow with her conditions.

brisk temple Nov 29, 2020, 1:28 PM

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sly urchin thanks for replying, here is the full automation.. https://hastebin.com/vafobula...

Line 10 should be data: not data_template and entity_id should be spaced in under data

haughty pond Nov 29, 2020, 2:38 PM

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Hi! Could anyone point me in the right direction to create a sensor template that does the following, take 2 different automations as input, compare the last triggered values and output the date/time of the latest of the two? I should create some kind of custom sensor I'm guessing, but any good ideas how to get started?

mighty ledge Nov 29, 2020, 2:44 PM

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@haughty pond not possible with a template sensor

haughty pond Nov 29, 2020, 2:45 PM

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@mighty ledge , gotcha, what would be your suggestions for getting the outcome I'm looking for?

mighty ledge Nov 29, 2020, 2:45 PM

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you have to create a template sensor off the sensors in the automation

haughty pond Nov 29, 2020, 2:46 PM

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So first a custom sensor for each of the automations, getting the last_triggered values, and then building upon those 2 sensors?

mighty ledge Nov 29, 2020, 2:46 PM

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or just forgo the autoomations and get straight to the information

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what do the automations do

haughty pond Nov 29, 2020, 2:48 PM

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Okay, scenarario is as follows. I've spent 2 full days trying to communicate with my new robo-vacuum unsuscessfully, ended up having to resort to triggering stuff via AssistantRelay. Meaning that I can't actually pull any info from the vacuum itself. So, what I have are one automation that starts the vacuum at certain times, and then a button as well for manually triggering the vacuum. What I want to do is get the date / time of whatever was run last, the automation or the manual trigger, and output that date/time to my Lovelace.

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Hope you get where I'm going, like the final output would be something like: "Last cleaning run: 2020-11-30 18:36"

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But maybe I'm trying to hard, because if a make the button manually trigger the automation instead, HA ignores any conditions etc. right? And it would still update the last_triggered value 🤔

mighty ledge Nov 29, 2020, 2:50 PM

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seems odd

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does the vacuum have an app?

haughty pond Nov 29, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Yeah, it's Tuya based, and I spent the time getting localKey etc and trying to communicate, but the thing is, it's some special thing, because the vacuum doesn't actually function properly in any normal Tuya app (Smart Life / Tuya Smart), only in the Lenovo Cleaner T1 Pro app

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Trying to communicate with it gives you a lot of encoded stuff with json decode errors

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Like Smart Life and Tuya Smart can't get the vacuums battery, current state or anything, can only start/stop it. Meanwhile the Lenovo app does everything including map.

mighty ledge Nov 29, 2020, 2:53 PM

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what kind of vacuum is it?

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and have you googled "<vacuum name> rest"?

haughty pond Nov 29, 2020, 2:55 PM

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It's an Lenovo T1 Pro, which is kind of a re-branded Prosenic M7 Pro. But it's hard getting good info on those.

mighty ledge Nov 29, 2020, 2:56 PM

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well it looks like there's not much

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If you have mqtt, you can publish the information to a topic from the automations, then make a mqtt sensor from the topic

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that's probably the easiest way

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there are other ways too, but they require python scripts or using the rest api

haughty pond Nov 29, 2020, 2:58 PM

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Haven't fiddled anything with MQTT before but will keep that in mind. Though as I just realized, what I could do is as I said make the manual button just trigger the same automation as is actually automatically being triggered. Because then HA ignores the conditions and runs it anyway, and still updates the last_triggered info.

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So is there an easy way to just get a sensor template running for ONE automations last_triggered value?

mighty ledge Nov 29, 2020, 2:59 PM

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nope

haughty pond Nov 29, 2020, 2:59 PM

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Ok 🙂

mighty ledge Nov 29, 2020, 2:59 PM

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last_trigger timestamp yes, but not the value that was recieved

haughty pond Nov 29, 2020, 3:00 PM

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I just want the time outputted from one automations last_triggered value, and be able to nicely format it

mighty ledge Nov 29, 2020, 3:01 PM

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then just use state_attr() and grab the last_triggered. Use as_timestamp() around it and then format it with timestamp_custom

haughty pond Nov 29, 2020, 3:02 PM

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Okay, I think I'm on the right track, thanks

silent barnBOT Nov 29, 2020, 3:44 PM

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@upper fog posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nWmVWffj22/

upper fog Nov 29, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Hi everyone, hope someone can help me. I am trying to create a template to combine my garage door opener and a smartthings contact sensor. The garage door opener is sonoff and automatically acts as a push button/momentary switch.

I have used the following code to create a 'cover'.
https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nWmVWffj22/
I can open and close the garage door using a single arrow (the other one doesn't work) but it does not seem to update the garage door icon or other arrow to show the status of the door. I don't know where I am going wrong

mighty ledge Nov 29, 2020, 3:45 PM

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binary sensors do not have a state open

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only on or off

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You're using 'open' in quite a few places

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you also don't need to make the icon_template. Just add device_class: garage

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Also, change your switch service from switch.toggle to switch.turn_on for both open and close cover

upper fog Nov 29, 2020, 3:47 PM

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Ah ok! I will try and make the changes now. Thank you 👍

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Thanks Petro! Works perfectly now

umbral pond Nov 29, 2020, 6:00 PM

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umbral pond I am trying to template an inline keyboard of a telegram notification - which I ...

hello guys , I am still fighting with this - is it even possible to template this particular thing , would be my first question , or should I give it up?

ivory delta Nov 29, 2020, 6:10 PM

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What do the Dev Tools say that template evaluates to?

thorny snow Nov 29, 2020, 6:56 PM

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Good evening, would it be possible to help me debug a expected float for dictionary value @ data['value'] error?

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action:

data_template:
value: '{{states.fan.cgs_dyson_pure_hot_cool|int}}'
entity_id: input_number.dyson_pure_hot_cool_fan_speed
service: input_number.set_value

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I would need to send a simple number to a created input_number

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any advice or help where and how I can troubleshoot this would be greatly appreciated

sweet dirge Nov 29, 2020, 7:22 PM

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thorny snow Good evening, would it be possible to help me debug a expected float for diction...

I'd always use the Developer Tools / Template. Just paste the template in there and see what it returns.

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I usually start from the state value and build to the right

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Looking at your exaple, I'd try {{ states.fan.cgs_dyson_pure_hot_cool.state | int }}

thorny snow Nov 29, 2020, 7:26 PM

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thanks, did that and it returns data_template:
value: 4
entity_id: input_number.dyson_pure_hot_cool_fan_speed

sweet dirge Nov 29, 2020, 7:27 PM

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or perhaps better {{ states('fan.cgs_dyson_pure_hot_cool') | int }}

thorny snow Nov 29, 2020, 7:29 PM

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once I got the template "wright", I tried it to call it in a service and there it fails

sweet dirge Nov 29, 2020, 7:32 PM

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I'd start with calling it with a constant number. And then replacing by template. And I think you do not have to use the data_template anymore, just use data:

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Assuming input_number.dyson_pure_hot_cool_fan_speed is an existing correct entity....

thorny snow Nov 29, 2020, 7:36 PM

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sweet dirge I'd start with calling it with a constant number. And then replacing by template...

test 1: with a number it seems to work

thorny snow Nov 29, 2020, 7:39 PM

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thorny snow test 1: with a number it seems to work

I use the developer-tools/service to test it. select service: input_number.set_value. Entitiy input_number.dyson_pure_hot_cool_fan_speed and service data entity_id: input_number.dyson_pure_hot_cool_fan_speed
value: {{ states('fan.cgs_dyson_pure_hot_cool') | int }}

thorny snow Nov 29, 2020, 7:40 PM

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thorny snow I use the developer-tools/service to test it. select service: input_number.set_...

somewhere, something doesn't work as soon as I choose value: {{ states('fan.cgs_dyson_pure_hot_cool') | int }}, while this gives me the correct number in the templates

sweet dirge Nov 29, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Did you do value: "{{ states('fan.cgs_dyson_pure_hot_cool') | int }}"?

thorny snow Nov 29, 2020, 7:45 PM

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sweet dirge Did you do `value: "{{ states('fan.cgs_dyson_pure_hot_cool') | int }}"`?

just copied your full statement and tested, no luck

thorny snow Nov 29, 2020, 7:46 PM

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thorny snow just copied your full statement and tested, no luck

just turned it full off and the value is off, could it be it expects a string?

sweet dirge Nov 29, 2020, 7:48 PM

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I do not know what the actual states of your entities are, but I'd experiment with the developer tools and you should figure this out.

ivory delta Nov 29, 2020, 7:49 PM

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thorny snow once I got the template "wright", I tried it to call it in a service and there i...

Fails how?

thorny snow Nov 29, 2020, 7:51 PM

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ivory delta Fails *how*?

always same error expected float for dictionary value @ data['value']

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wait a sec, we lost the speed attribute somewhere on the way

ivory delta Nov 29, 2020, 7:55 PM

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And if you use a simple template like {{ 2 + 2 }} it fails?

thorny snow Nov 29, 2020, 7:56 PM

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entity_id: input_number.dyson_pure_hot_cool_fan_speed
value: "{{states.fan.cgs_dyson_pure_hot_cool.attributes.speed|int}}"

thorny snow Nov 29, 2020, 7:57 PM

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ivory delta And if you use a simple template like `{{ 2 + 2 }}` it fails?

yes that also fails the {{ 2 + 2 }}

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4 hardcoded does work

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now I am lost, what's the difference between {{ 2 + 2 }} and hardcoded 4?

ivory delta Nov 29, 2020, 8:01 PM

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There should be no difference. What version of HA are you on?

thorny snow Nov 29, 2020, 8:02 PM

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ivory delta There should be no difference. What version of HA are you on?

Home Assistant 0.118.4 on RA PI

brisk nebula Nov 29, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Hi everyone, is there a way to use a template in friendly_name of generic camera? I'm using template to tweak still_image_url, but can't find a way to alter friendly name.

ivory delta Nov 29, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Then I think you should log a bug. A lot of people have had difficulty with templates since the 'native types' stuff that they added.

thorny snow Nov 29, 2020, 8:05 PM

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May I already thank you for all the help. very much appreciated.

thorny snow Nov 29, 2020, 8:06 PM

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ivory delta Then I think you should log a bug. A lot of people have had difficulty with temp...

not sure if I am the best placed to file a bug, my programming knowledge is quite limited

ivory delta Nov 29, 2020, 8:06 PM

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You don't need to know how to program to log a bug 🙂

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Just explain what you've tried and what the results were.

thorny snow Nov 29, 2020, 8:07 PM

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this said, I followed two guides and all the rest worked fine

thorny snow Nov 29, 2020, 8:07 PM

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ivory delta Just explain what you've tried and what the results were.

true, but could be a user problem 😀

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maybe a last test: how can I influence the value of {{ 2 + 2 }}. I just tested with {{ 2 + 2 | int }} and with {{ 2 + 2 | float }}

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any other that could make sense to rule out?

ivory delta Nov 29, 2020, 8:12 PM

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You can't. The template will always return a string. HA decides how to use the value.

thorny snow Nov 29, 2020, 8:13 PM

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and you can set a string to input_number?

ivory delta Nov 29, 2020, 8:13 PM

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You should be able to tell it that you want to set it to the string '4' and it should understand that you mean the number 4.

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The recent change for templates has had some side effects for some people.

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The more people that report issues, the better the devs can understand the problem.

thorny snow Nov 29, 2020, 8:18 PM

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ivory delta The recent change for templates has had some side effects for some people.

ok, will do. Will recreate same in my test environment 0.118.2 and see if I have the same behavior

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Thank you for the help! Having quite some fun with this new solution. Once all "smart" tings are integrated, I will start to integrate my KNX. that will be the real challenge 😀

ebon drift Nov 29, 2020, 9:49 PM

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How to format this into JSON?
data_template: entity_id: media_player.alfred language: pl cache: false message: >- Kinga jest na {{ state_attr('sensor.kinga','neighbourhood') }}, {{ state_attr('sensor.kinga', 'distance_from_home_km')}} od domu. service: tts.google_say

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I'm having most problem with the message part

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It doesn't read the values at all

wise mason Nov 30, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Updated age sensor
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/age-of-a-person/225241/9

deft timber Nov 30, 2020, 9:57 AM

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@ebon drift , you should now use data: and not data_template: . I'm not saying this is the problem though

ebon drift Nov 30, 2020, 9:59 AM

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This YAML is woring for the HA automation, but I don't know how to format the message for a JSON in NodeRED

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Because all that I need to pass as JSON there is the message part

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The rest is done by the node

deft timber Nov 30, 2020, 9:59 AM

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then maybe it is more a question for #node-red-archived

ebon drift Nov 30, 2020, 10:00 AM

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Hm yes its in between, but I'll try there

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Thank you

coarse sable Nov 30, 2020, 10:50 AM

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I'm having trouble coming up with a json_attributes_template for this mqtt sensor : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/stz5N5xN33/
(json payload included)

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The attributes are simply not showing up in the sensor.

deft timber Nov 30, 2020, 10:53 AM

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your json_attributes_template returns an array. I think it should return a dictionary.

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Does it work if you try with "{{ value_json.channel[0] | tojson }}"

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?

coarse sable Nov 30, 2020, 10:53 AM

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yup it does

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well...in a separate sensor

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@deft timber and your suggestion also works in the original paste

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I'm beginning to think i'd better make a sensor per array item

deft timber Nov 30, 2020, 10:59 AM

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or maybe you can try smth like json_attributes_template: "{{ {'channels': value_json.channel } | tojson }}" ?

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that way your json_attributes_template does return a dictionary

coarse sable Nov 30, 2020, 11:00 AM

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lemme test that

deft timber Nov 30, 2020, 11:00 AM

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with 1 element : channels, that itself returns an array

coarse sable Nov 30, 2020, 11:02 AM

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That looks promising enough !

silent barnBOT Nov 30, 2020, 11:12 AM

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@sly urchin posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gbP8F77vJt/

sly urchin Nov 30, 2020, 11:13 AM

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I'm having issue with this template:

      value: >
        {{ (trigger.from_state.state | float - trigger.to_state.state | float) | round(2)  }}
      entity_id: "{{ input_number.ashley_weight_difference }}"```

With more info above, any ideas much appreciated

shell ferry Nov 30, 2020, 12:31 PM

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Hi, does someone know if one could use state attributes in History Stats? I mean like, currently I have a history stats sensor, which check how long has the state been as playing on my PS4, but I'd like to have two different sensors, divide them with media_content_type being game and app. Or rather, to have two sensors, both state=playing + media_content_type=game and state=playing + media_content_type=app.
Let me know if I should ask this on some other channel

shell ferry Nov 30, 2020, 12:40 PM

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shell ferry Hi, does someone know if one could use state attributes in History Stats? I mean...

I think I might have got it; create a new sensor, such as:

- platform: template
  sensors:
    ps4_media_content_type:
      friendly_name: "PS4 - Media content type"
      value_template: "{{ state_attr('media_player.ps4', 'media_content_type') }}"

...and then create a History Stats sensor based on this new sensor/entity

coarse sable Nov 30, 2020, 12:43 PM

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You do look like you've got it...

shell ferry Nov 30, 2020, 12:47 PM

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yup, appears so :)

deft timber Nov 30, 2020, 12:58 PM

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@sly urchin, strange, it says that trigger.from_state.state | float and trigger.to_state.state | float are strings. Which can not be... No idea why. Bug? Could you try with float(trigger.from_state.state) instead, for testing purpose ?

sly urchin Nov 30, 2020, 12:59 PM

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I believe I've tried this along with many other tweaks but I will check this one now, thanks

mighty ledge Nov 30, 2020, 1:00 PM

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@sly urchin make a persistent_notification and output the results of trigger.from_state and trigger.to_state

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the | float should always convert it to a float regardless of the results of .state

deft timber Nov 30, 2020, 1:02 PM

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or call the service system_log.write

mighty ledge Nov 30, 2020, 1:02 PM

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- service: persistent_notifiication.create
  data:
    title: From State
    message: "{{ trigger.from_state }}"
- service: persistent_notifiication.create
  data:
    title: To State
    message: "{{ trigger.to_state }}"

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You'll get 2 notifications with the objects in question

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Also, how are you firing the automation? If you're pressing the test button, that automation will not work.

sly urchin Nov 30, 2020, 1:04 PM

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No, I'm using a counter and incrementing the value, so it should return the difference of 1.

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Thanks I'll try this now

naive nymph Nov 30, 2020, 1:46 PM

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wise mason Updated age sensor https://community.home-assistant.io/t/age-of-a-person/225241/...

that's cool. I placed a comment in the thread, too, suggesting some thought around HA having more instrumentation on the people it serves. It's a little surprising to me that for all of the fine-grained entities and attributes we have to work with on devices, there's surprisingly little to work with on the people that our systems and devices are meant to serve.

neon wave Nov 30, 2020, 3:56 PM

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Hi there !

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I'm trying to sort a list of entities by value (int).
Right now i have this, but it doesn't sort by int value but by string (100 is BEFORE 80) :

{{ "group.zigbee_batteries" | expand 
  | sort(attribute='state')
  | map(attribute='entity_id')
  | list
}}

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someone told me to map(attribute=state)|int|sort but that would give me a list of values, not a list of entities.

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Is there any way to do this ?

sly urchin Nov 30, 2020, 4:23 PM

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mighty ledge <@!380116413399957508> make a persistent_notification and output the results of ...

I managed to get the notifications to only contain the value necessary, but when writing them to the input_number it logs an undefined error, any ideas?

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Error rendering data template: UndefinedError: 'input_number' is undefined

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https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FyTxYK4zhR/

deft timber Nov 30, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Be carefull, in the service call you wrote from_state.attribute.weight instead of from_state.attributes.weight (missing s at attribute)

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and you miss the template parenthesis for entity_id:

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entity_id: "{{state_attr('input_number.ashley_weight_difference', 'entity_id')}}"

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you also miss quotes for the template of the last service call (notify.mobile_app_ashley_phone)

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And you miss the "s" at the end of state, it should be states.input_number.ashley_weight_difference. Or states("states.input_number.ashley_weight_difference")
message: "lost {{ states.input_number.ashley_weight_difference }}kgs this weigh in."

mighty ledge Nov 30, 2020, 5:09 PM

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@sly urchin there's a bunch of errors in that

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https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SQBGPKkZRn/

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Also, just to forewarn you, there's a chance that the automation moves too fast and the weight_difference is older than the previous calculation

sly urchin Nov 30, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Thanks but I still get the same error, automations reloaded for sure

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Error rendering data template: UndefinedError: 'input_number' is undefined

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input number is set at 19.3

mighty ledge Nov 30, 2020, 5:15 PM

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it's not coming from this automation

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input_number is not referenced in any template.

sly urchin Nov 30, 2020, 5:15 PM

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No i've manually set it incase that was what was causing undefined

mighty ledge Nov 30, 2020, 5:16 PM

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you need to explain what you're doing better

sly urchin Nov 30, 2020, 5:16 PM

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    data_template:
      value: '{{ (trigger.from_state.attributes.weight | float - trigger.to_state.attributes.weight | float) | round(1)  }}'
      entity_id: input_number.ashley_weight_difference```

mighty ledge Nov 30, 2020, 5:16 PM

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input_number not defined is a templating error

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yet you aren't referencing an input_number in these templates

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you're referencing an input_number entity

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you're confusing the 2

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1 is a variable name "input_number"

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the other is an entity inside home assistant, which happens to be a domain of 'input_number'

sly urchin Nov 30, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Okay I get what you're saying but not sure how would I go about writing the result of that template to the input number?

mighty ledge Nov 30, 2020, 5:19 PM

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how are you editing this automation?

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we have to step back because you're doing something wrong somewhere else

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and you're focused in this area which the error is not located

sly urchin Nov 30, 2020, 5:22 PM

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you're right I must have read the previous log when slamming down your code, apologies, i just got a notification so it seems to work. Did you just edit the formatting in your version?

mighty ledge Nov 30, 2020, 5:27 PM

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I corrected all the errors

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@sly urchin

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sly urchin Nov 30, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Thank you @mighty ledge 👍

marsh lynx Nov 30, 2020, 7:33 PM

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could someone help me translate a date format into a tts readable format, eg. 2020-11-30 00:00:00 into "The 30th of November Twenty Twenty" ?

deft timber Nov 30, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Format it using strftime notation “The %e of %B 20 %y”. But the “th” is not possible that way

mighty ledge Nov 30, 2020, 8:29 PM

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@marsh lynx

{% set t = as_timestamp('2020-11-30 00:00:00') %}
{% set d = t | timestamp_custom('%d', false) | int %}
{% set suffixes = {1:'st',2:'nd',3:'rd'} %}
{% set d = d ~ 'th' if 11 <= d <= 13 else d ~ suffixes.get(d%10, 'th') %}
The {{ d }} of {{ t | timestamp_custom('%B 20 %y') }}

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marsh lynx Nov 30, 2020, 8:30 PM

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OMG

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I didn't expect someone to practically do it for me, thats awsome. Thanks @mighty ledge . I just assumed someone would just point me to a docs page or something, lol. Thats the typical response I'd expect in discord rooms. 😄

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if the format was 2020-11-30T15:59:02.549354+00:00, what would be the best way to do the same thing, could I strip everything to the right of the "T" or would there be a better way? I'm not sure if this format is a valid "timestamp" value.

wheat pawn Nov 30, 2020, 8:35 PM

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that looks like a format that is parsable with datetime

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is that ISO 8601 ?

mighty ledge Nov 30, 2020, 8:36 PM

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@marsh lynx just change the false to true in the 2nd line

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the same template will work

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the difference is, you now added a timezone to it

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so we don't have to assume UTC

marsh lynx Nov 30, 2020, 8:37 PM

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ah i see.

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your help here was gratefully spoon fed and received 😄

mighty ledge Nov 30, 2020, 8:38 PM

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actually, no keep it false

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so, don't even alter the template

marsh lynx Nov 30, 2020, 8:40 PM

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thats great, it works either way, but no need to change the template makes it even better.

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2020-12-01 16:15:00 seems to translate to "The 0th of None" - have i made a typo?

mighty ledge Nov 30, 2020, 8:49 PM

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@marsh lynx seems like it

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works for me

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The 1st of December 20 20

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marsh lynx Nov 30, 2020, 8:51 PM

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let me try again

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apologies, i used the wrong variable

boreal fiber Dec 1, 2020, 12:12 AM

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Can anyone take a look at this automation.. it used to work great until i updated to the new template version.. now it doesnt work and I included the error. I think its a simple fix just adjusting the template to the new format.

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this is basically the error: Error rendering data template: UndefinedError: 'trigger' is undefined

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https://codeshare.io/G7klWo

inner mesa Dec 1, 2020, 12:14 AM

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are you testing it by hitting "execute" or something similar?

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and what is the "new template version"?

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if you're manually executing the automation, there is no trigger, and you'll get that error

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you should also change data_template: to data: while you're there

misty pasture Dec 1, 2020, 12:49 AM

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Hey all, how can I parse the trigger data for an automation as JSON and read a property? The following shows me a JSON object, but I can't figure out how to access it inline (I'd like to notify trigger.event.data.my_property, for example)

  - service: notify.mobile_device
    data:
      message: 'data: {{trigger.event.data}}'

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Nevermind, it seems like it's already parsed and I was reading a property that didn't exist 🤦‍♂️

boreal fiber Dec 1, 2020, 12:57 AM

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your right that i was hitting the execute button. however the automation doesnt run on its own either

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and i was just referring to the changes they made to templates in .118

mighty ledge Dec 1, 2020, 1:12 AM

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@boreal fiber your first trigger never works

boreal fiber Dec 1, 2020, 1:14 AM

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The one with three entities?

mighty ledge Dec 1, 2020, 1:14 AM

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yeah

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binary_sensors only have an on/off state

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the cover would still work

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but not the other 2

boreal fiber Dec 1, 2020, 1:33 AM

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ah your right! i recently changed those from sensors. i will change that and keep testing. since nothing seems wrong with the syntax or templating

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that seemed to have worked. thanks!

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fresh pair of eyes sometimes

mighty ledge Dec 1, 2020, 1:38 AM

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that's all it takes!

fleet tinsel Dec 1, 2020, 8:29 AM

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Can someone tell what the Home Assistant sensor is that tracks who enters a zone. I want to be able to do a template that triggers the google TTS service to welcome home the person/s that entered the zone. I am correctly picking up users entering the zone I just want to use the person attribute name in the template code.. IE Welcome home "Person"

arctic sorrel Dec 1, 2020, 8:35 AM

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The zone trigger can do that

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If you look at the docs linked in the channel topic it tells you what the template variables are for that trigger

fleet tinsel Dec 1, 2020, 8:38 AM

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Thankyou for telling me exactly where to look 🙂

wary horizon Dec 1, 2020, 10:27 AM

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Where to start with a template that displays what a sensor's value was an hour ago?

deft timber Dec 1, 2020, 10:49 AM

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I don't think you can do that 😦

wary horizon Dec 1, 2020, 10:57 AM

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Oof. See, I can see the forecast for road condition in a REST response, but not the current condition. So the previous hour's forecast would be a highly likely current condition. This data updates every five minutes.

fossil venture Dec 1, 2020, 11:11 AM

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An SQL sensor should be able to pull it from your database. https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/sql/

wary horizon Dec 1, 2020, 11:32 AM

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Will take a look

waxen rune Dec 1, 2020, 11:47 AM

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@wary horizon Or you set up a helper like an input_text where you store the previous value with an #automations-archived

deft timber Dec 1, 2020, 12:49 PM

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Indeed, an sql sensor is a good idea:
select state from states where entity_id = 'your_entity_id' and last_changed < addtime(current_timestamp(), "-1:00:00") order by last_changed desc limit 1;
But you will be able to get the state only, not the attributes

wary horizon Dec 1, 2020, 2:02 PM

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That's fine I can make a separate template sensor for that item only

subtle raft Dec 1, 2020, 2:07 PM

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can i use logical operators in templates?
eg: value_template: "{{ is_state('light.bedroom_ceiling', 'on || off') }}"

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or would this syntax be correct?
{{ is_state('light.bedroom_ceiling', 'on') or is_state('light.bedroom_ceiling', 'off') }}

rugged laurel Dec 1, 2020, 2:11 PM

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Second would be correct, but does not make any sense, since it only has those 2 states it will always be True

subtle raft Dec 1, 2020, 2:12 PM

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well, there is also unavailable

rugged laurel Dec 1, 2020, 2:12 PM

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"{{state('light.bedroom_ceiling') in ['on', 'off']}}" is a shorter variat,

subtle raft Dec 1, 2020, 2:14 PM

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perfect, thank you

subtle raft Dec 1, 2020, 2:30 PM

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@rugged laurel that shorter one doesnt work for me. it makes the template switch unavailable. my longer version seems to work, however

rugged laurel Dec 1, 2020, 2:32 PM

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There is a typo there state( != states(

subtle raft Dec 1, 2020, 2:32 PM

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oh, i missed that

marble jackal Dec 1, 2020, 2:47 PM

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or {{ not is_state('light.bedroom_ceiling', 'unavailable') }}

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BTW, how do you create an inline code segment here?

rugged laurel Dec 1, 2020, 2:49 PM

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1 ` instead of 3

marble jackal Dec 1, 2020, 2:56 PM

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Ah, thanks!

marsh lynx Dec 1, 2020, 7:50 PM

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I thought I got the hang of the Jinga2 indentation nuisance but I cant figure out what I'm doing wrong

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can I paste an image here?

brisk temple Dec 1, 2020, 7:51 PM

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if indentation is your issue then paste.ubuntu.com would be better

marsh lynx Dec 1, 2020, 7:51 PM

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ok, although I ideally wanted to let you see the vscode error markup

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https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DgCVMvSCgj/

silent barnBOT Dec 1, 2020, 7:54 PM

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@marsh lynx Your message has been deleted as it contains a link or a domain name 'pasteboard_dot_co' that is on the blocked list because of: 'Virus detected!'.
Please re-post by removing/changing the domain name/link. Your original message has been DM'ed to you.

marsh lynx Dec 1, 2020, 7:55 PM

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https://imgur.com/zcF2nCi

hollow bramble Dec 1, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Remove all of the entity_id entries. That option has been deprecated.

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And the device_class error should be pretty self explanatory

silent barnBOT Dec 1, 2020, 7:57 PM

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@languid trellis posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CPCPdq6DTq/

marsh lynx Dec 1, 2020, 7:57 PM

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thats the thing, the vscode error markup claims this is an error, but the HA docs show that "problem" is valid

hollow bramble Dec 1, 2020, 7:58 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/sensor/

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where?

languid trellis Dec 1, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Hello. Can anyone tell what is wrong with this template:
https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CPCPdq6DTq/

marsh lynx Dec 1, 2020, 7:59 PM

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@hollow bramble https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/binary_sensor/

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Oh, thats binary_sensor. 😛

fossil venture Dec 1, 2020, 8:01 PM

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@languid trellis too many ( and not enough )

hollow bramble Dec 1, 2020, 8:02 PM

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no, it renders a number when I paste that template

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What is the problem you are having?

languid trellis Dec 1, 2020, 8:05 PM

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@fossil venture hm, it worked before I added filters:

hollow bramble Dec 1, 2020, 8:05 PM

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You can't put filters directly on template sensors.

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/filter/ https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/template/ they are different integrations

fossil venture Dec 1, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Oh just saw that, looks like a jinja to ESPHome mashup. 🙃

languid trellis Dec 1, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Can I use the filters" on the template's output in some way or do I have to recreate filter functionality within the template?

hollow bramble Dec 1, 2020, 8:15 PM

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You can make a filter sensor entry that references the template sensor you've created

languid trellis Dec 1, 2020, 8:24 PM

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@hollow bramble how do I reference the template in the sensor? Tried to search but found only templates referencing sensors.

hollow bramble Dec 1, 2020, 8:25 PM

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You reference the template sensor with its entity_id

earnest cosmos Dec 1, 2020, 8:26 PM

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What type of sensor template would I use to set the state for my vacuum (Charging/not charging)?

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I was looking for something like this

value_template: >-
  {%- if state_attr('vacuum.albertinne', 'Charging') %}
    false
  {% else %}
    true
  {%- endif %}

hollow bramble Dec 1, 2020, 8:27 PM

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binary_sensor

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You would just need "{{ is_state_attr('vacuum.albertinne','Charging')}}"

earnest cosmos Dec 1, 2020, 8:29 PM

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@hollow brambleAh! .... and then it sets on/off?

hollow bramble Dec 1, 2020, 8:29 PM

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It doesn't "set" anything, but it will automatically change the state of the binary_sensor based on your vacuum's charging status

earnest cosmos Dec 1, 2020, 8:30 PM

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So like this:
value_template: "{{ is_state_attr('vacuum.albertinne','Charging')}}"

hollow bramble Dec 1, 2020, 8:31 PM

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oh wait

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it's missing the attribute name

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What is the attribute?

earnest cosmos Dec 1, 2020, 8:31 PM

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Its actually the state, so

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is_state ?

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Thanks a million, @hollow bramble

hollow bramble Dec 1, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Are you sure the state is "Charging"? I didn't think that was a state for vacuums

fossil venture Dec 1, 2020, 8:34 PM

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The state is "Docked" iirc.

earnest cosmos Dec 1, 2020, 8:35 PM

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True 🙂

hollow bramble Dec 1, 2020, 8:36 PM

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It's also likely docked (lower case)

earnest cosmos Dec 1, 2020, 8:37 PM

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for sure 🙂

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It seems I still have to do a ha core restart to update the binary_sensor. Correct?

hollow bramble Dec 1, 2020, 8:40 PM

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You can reload template sensors now

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call the service template.reload

earnest cosmos Dec 1, 2020, 8:42 PM

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Had to change langage from Norwegian to English to find it

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... in the GUI

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😂

rugged laurel Dec 1, 2020, 8:43 PM

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That should be your default, it's way better!

earnest cosmos Dec 1, 2020, 8:43 PM

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I know...

rugged laurel Dec 1, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Try googling "Home Assistant utløser not working"....

earnest cosmos Dec 1, 2020, 8:52 PM

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What am i looking for there?

rugged laurel Dec 1, 2020, 8:53 PM

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It was a joke...

earnest cosmos Dec 1, 2020, 9:03 PM

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😉

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Why is it that

{{ states.vacuum.albertinne.attributes.status }}
{{ states.vacuum.albertinne.state }}

returns

Returning home
returning

inner mesa Dec 1, 2020, 9:07 PM

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That’s what the integration provides?

hollow bramble Dec 1, 2020, 9:08 PM

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status != state

rugged laurel Dec 1, 2020, 9:12 PM

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In the Norwegian translation it probably is the same

earnest cosmos Dec 1, 2020, 9:29 PM

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So both these values kind of has the same meaning, but I would have to be careful to use the correct value when templating, though

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BTW: What would you guys use to save the state for eg. light (on/off). Use a binary_sensor for that too? I would use this to check if several lights (in several groups) are lit or not, and displaying it´s status in a button in lovelace

hollow bramble Dec 1, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Why not just use the state of the light?

earnest cosmos Dec 1, 2020, 9:34 PM

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I have three groups of light (for now)

hollow bramble Dec 1, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Groups also have states

earnest cosmos Dec 1, 2020, 9:35 PM

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.. and some of these groups are dimmables

hollow bramble Dec 1, 2020, 9:36 PM

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They are still either on or off

earnest cosmos Dec 1, 2020, 9:36 PM

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which mean I canot turn them on at brightness: 5, because then all the lights don´t turn on sufficiently

silent barnBOT Dec 1, 2020, 9:36 PM

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@earnest cosmos posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JMg9CJHc4y/

earnest cosmos Dec 1, 2020, 9:37 PM

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      - service: homeassistant.turn_on
        entity_id: group.lys_grunnbelysning_dimbare
        data:
          brightness: 50
      - delay: 0:00:03
      - service: homeassistant.turn_on
        entity_id: group.lys_grunnbelysning_dimbare
        data:
          brightness: 5

hollow bramble Dec 1, 2020, 9:37 PM

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all that information is in the link the bot posted, no need to repost

earnest cosmos Dec 1, 2020, 9:38 PM

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That´s why i ended up calling this script to make sure all the dimmables are lit, then dimmed down

hollow bramble Dec 1, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Well your first mistake is using homeassistant.turn_on instead of light.turn_on, and your second mistake is using a group instead of a light group

earnest cosmos Dec 1, 2020, 9:40 PM

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This script works, though 🙂

hollow bramble Dec 1, 2020, 9:40 PM

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But what is it accomplishing? You're saying setting them to brightness: 5 doesn't work?

earnest cosmos Dec 1, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Anyway the dimmer thing is coming to play if I use the physical dimmer on the wall at a too low level too

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I am telling you this because it does not seem to work properly just turning them on using group on/off

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so I have to turn these on by this script at some brightness in order to have them all lit, then dim them to desires starting brightness.

hollow bramble Dec 1, 2020, 9:44 PM

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I still don't understand why that would be necessary. It sounds like a broken integration

earnest cosmos Dec 1, 2020, 9:45 PM

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Two things here: Get the state of the light groups, and the fact I cannot turn the dimmable spot lights on at too low brightness.

hollow bramble Dec 1, 2020, 9:46 PM

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That's the part that doesn't make sense.

earnest cosmos Dec 1, 2020, 9:46 PM

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If I do that (even when using the dimmer on the wall) not all the light bulbs are lit.

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To accomplish this I must dim up the lights

hollow bramble Dec 1, 2020, 9:46 PM

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What is "too low brightness"? What do the entities report as the state/brightness?

earnest cosmos Dec 1, 2020, 9:47 PM

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It´s not the entities or the Fibaro dimmer.

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It´s the lights itself that cannot turn on properly when the dimmer is sett at the lowest value

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they need more power to make all six spots to turn on at the same time

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therefore I have made a work-around to have all 6 LED spots in the cieling turn on by the script

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and at a brightes that gives all six spots enough power to lit

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That is (as far as I know) the reason turning on light groups will not work. I can, however check the state for the groups, and that idea, @hollow bramble might solve my initial issue

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Kind of complicated to explain here, though. But i need to turn those spots on at brightness: 50 to get them all lit

silent barnBOT Dec 2, 2020, 12:50 AM

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@azure whale posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DRGjqkwnw3/

mighty ledge Dec 2, 2020, 12:44 PM

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@azure whale where did you get temperature_f from? Your json does not contain that key. Your value template should be "{{ value_json.data.val }}"

    ______________________value_json___________________________
   /                                        val                \
  /                                          |                  \
 /                                           V                   \
{"up":22255,"id":"2","data":{"type":"temp","val":67.77499,"pin":4}}
                        ^---\___________data_____________________/

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{ } make up a dictionary. To accesss items in a dictionary you use .xxx or ['xxx'].

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value_json is a dictionary, it contains 3 keys, up, id, and data. data is a dictionary, it contains 3 keys type, val, and pin.

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so... value_json.data.val or value_json['data']['val']

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items in a dictionary are noted by "KEY":"VALUE" and separated by commas

brisk temple Dec 2, 2020, 1:58 PM

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solid ascii work there

mighty ledge Dec 2, 2020, 2:39 PM

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I took a class in ascii art

brisk temple Dec 2, 2020, 2:46 PM

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seriously? ha

mighty ledge Dec 2, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Lol na

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just messing around

royal rampart Dec 2, 2020, 3:50 PM

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so... can I template templates?

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I have 7 fans and I kinda don't fancy doing this by hand https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/np2P8Jgqjk/

hollow bramble Dec 2, 2020, 4:17 PM

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Not really, no. Though you could clean some of that up a bit. Are you planning on having only one speed control for all of your fans?

deft timber Dec 2, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Maybe you can look at yaml anchors

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https://support.atlassian.com/bitbucket-cloud/docs/yaml-anchors/

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I personally use it in the following scripts, to avoid repeating the url, headers, ... : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MNKGqGDnW4/

brisk temple Dec 2, 2020, 5:01 PM

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would that have to be done in the same .yaml file, or a package?

mighty ledge Dec 2, 2020, 5:07 PM

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definitely cannot do that with yaml anchors

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only if the templates were identical

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then you can use anchors

inland hazel Dec 2, 2020, 5:13 PM

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royal rampart so... can I template templates?

No, but kinda. You can write a template to generate your template sensors. Here's an example: https://github.com/dale3h/homeassistant-config/blob/b040f17bc66a47f3f884d8360ed225d7f3a3e8f3/packages/network_devices.j2 -- this is a template I used to use to generate Template Sensors for each of my network devices so that they'd have a state of online or offline (instead of on/off), as well as an icon to denote that state.

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@royal rampart Also, I want to say that your templates are the prettiest I've seen in a while. Your formatting is 💯!!!

mighty ledge Dec 2, 2020, 5:17 PM

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they could be optimized a bit

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"{{ not is_state('switch.dining_fan_off', 'on') }}
and
"switch.dining_fan_{{ states('input_select.speed') | lower }}"

inland hazel Dec 2, 2020, 5:19 PM

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I agree, but you have to admit his formatting is gorgeous. 😉

mighty ledge Dec 2, 2020, 5:19 PM

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He actually uses spaces and doesn't write the result at the end of the line... makes it %100 easier to read

inland hazel Dec 2, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Exaaactly. And he uses is_state instead of relying on the states collection.

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And makes use of the folded block syntax.

obsidian cypress Dec 2, 2020, 6:15 PM

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Is there an equivalent to this template:
{{states.sensor.picnic_delivery.attributes.delivery.window_start}}
In the “other” format eg. {{state_attr('sensor.picnic_delivery','delivery','window_start')}} <— That doesn’t work as it’s too many arguments...

brisk temple Dec 2, 2020, 6:18 PM

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{{ state_attr('sensor.picnic_delivery','delivery')['window_start'] }}

obsidian cypress Dec 2, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Ah that’s perfect! Thank you, I was trying [0] etc. but didn’t even think to try the actual name 👍

umbral pond Dec 2, 2020, 7:58 PM

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hi guys , I am fighting with this automation for some days now and I think that my actual question in order to solve my issue is , is it possible (without using python scripts) to manipulate a YAML list into adding and removing entries dynamically based on a multi-line template with if conditions ?

mighty ledge Dec 2, 2020, 8:14 PM

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what

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gonna need some context

silent barnBOT Dec 2, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Please use https://paste.ubuntu.com/ or https://www.hastebin.com/ to share code or logs.

umbral pond Dec 2, 2020, 8:48 PM

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@mighty ledge so for example if I had a telegram bot inline keyboard which in order to prin keys it uses a list

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would I be able to do this dynamically ?

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say print a number of buttons in some conditions and another in some other conditions ?

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because in all my attempts I get either syntax error because I put the dashes inside the multi-line template which is obviously wrong

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or if I put the dash outside and template below if the condition goes to false then the dash is left empty (without a button) thus resulting in an error fro mthe telegram api

mighty ledge Dec 2, 2020, 8:53 PM

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With the recent typing changes, all you need to do is return a comma separated string.

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The dashes Are YAML notation only

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@umbral pond

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@umbral pond if you share your code i can hlep...

royal rampart Dec 2, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Aw shucks, you're going to make my head swell. You can put my formatting down to a lot of Google and being a Dev as a day job. Will have to try those shortcuts tho.

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I won't show you any of the config from our old house lol

umbral pond Dec 2, 2020, 9:26 PM

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@mighty ledge i am trying to re-syntax it because after so many attempts and tries it doesn't look as I describe , bear with me

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@mighty ledge these are my last 2 main variations:

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of course i've tried other syntaxes with | instead of > in case it made a difference

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and removing whitespaces from various points by putting dashes here and there in next to the % symbols

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in case that was the problem

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the use case is that input_booleans will never all be on at the same time , so there may be buttons in the keyboard needing to be ommited and that's where the problem starts

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for all booleans on , the 2nd link , seems to work (and pass validation tests too of course)

mighty ledge Dec 2, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Yeah, so... I can help with that exact template but it won't get what you want with other templates

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you'd have to edit it yourself and this will probably be above your head

umbral pond Dec 2, 2020, 9:44 PM

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i understood the second 'above my head' part , that probably it will be code difficult to understand , but what do you mean it won't get what I want with other templates?

silent barnBOT Dec 2, 2020, 9:46 PM

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@mighty ledge posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fjvbbShGGF/

mighty ledge Dec 2, 2020, 9:46 PM

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I tried to make it easy so you'd understand the code

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you can change the last line to {{ ns.items }} too and it will work.

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granted, this only works in 0.118+

umbral pond Dec 2, 2020, 9:49 PM

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cool , I kinda understand how it works already , one question tho. the if...else logic.
the way it's typed right now , it checks if one is 'on' at a given time , where there are cases that test1 will be on , test2 off and test3 on again , so consequently I 'd need the first button and the third on the keyboard.

mighty ledge Dec 2, 2020, 9:50 PM

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yeah, but you can just remove the elif and add and enif

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endif

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{% if %}... {% endif %} {%if %} .. {% endif %}

umbral pond Dec 2, 2020, 9:50 PM

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ah yes of course , just making sure of the edits I have to make

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and making sure I don't get anything wrong

mighty ledge Dec 2, 2020, 9:51 PM

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instead of {% if %} {% elif %} {% elif %} {% endif %}

umbral pond Dec 2, 2020, 9:51 PM

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also where would I add the - dash that is required for the inline_Keyboard: list to be built ?

mighty ledge Dec 2, 2020, 9:51 PM

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so, are you expecting 'test3' to be a field undert inline_keybaord?

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like

umbral pond Dec 2, 2020, 9:51 PM

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should it be my delimiter?

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in join

mighty ledge Dec 2, 2020, 9:51 PM

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inline_keyboard:
  test1: \test1

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?

umbral pond Dec 2, 2020, 9:52 PM

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i think the inline_keyboard should be syntaxed:

inline_keyboard:
  - 'test1: /test1'
  - 'test2: /test2'

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etc

mighty ledge Dec 2, 2020, 9:53 PM

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ok, so it's definitely a list and not a set of keys

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i.e. when you write it out non-dynamically it looks like what you posted

umbral pond Dec 2, 2020, 9:53 PM

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yes that was my main issue all along , in fact , that I couldn't put the dash anywhere "safe"

mighty ledge Dec 2, 2020, 9:53 PM

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the dash is for yaml notation

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the notation for objects is a list notation

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inline_keyboard: ['test1: /test1', 'test2: /test2']

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that is identical to what you wrote

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yaml interprets both without a problem

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to make it work with jinja, that's the format you should use with the new typing

umbral pond Dec 2, 2020, 9:55 PM

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I see , ok good to know! one less thing to worry about

mighty ledge Dec 2, 2020, 9:56 PM

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you don't need the | join(', '), it should work without it

umbral pond Dec 2, 2020, 9:56 PM

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great thank you I'll get on it

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see how it goes

mighty ledge Dec 2, 2020, 9:58 PM

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You'll need a condition that checks for an empty list and to not fire it off

royal rampart Dec 3, 2020, 1:34 AM

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mighty ledge `"{{ not is_state('switch.dining_fan_off', 'on') }}` and `"switch.dining_fan_{{ ...

It didn't like that
Received invalid fan is_on state: True. Expected: on, off
Received invalid fan is_on state: False. Expected: on, off

inland hazel Dec 3, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Interesting! I guess that’s a new thing since adding native template types.

royal rampart Dec 3, 2020, 4:36 AM

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I actually looked to see if there was ternary operators or bash style foo && x || y

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but, time to start looking at lovelace... cos my ui is a bombsite... tracking aircons, dynalite, switches, solar, ups, printers... so much stuff lol

mighty ledge Dec 3, 2020, 12:41 PM

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@royal rampart if true/false doesn't work, that's a bug and it should be reported linking the integration.

warm isle Dec 3, 2020, 2:28 PM

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the moment when you head over to #templates-archived because you cant remember a jinja filter for ansible 🤣

royal rampart Dec 3, 2020, 3:16 PM

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mighty ledge <@!302370874252853249> if true/false doesn't work, that's a bug and it should be...

Borderline abandoning that method, if I turn the fan on it goes to high, if I change the speed it turns off

mighty ledge Dec 3, 2020, 3:17 PM

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royal rampart Borderline abandoning that method, if I turn the fan on it goes to high, if I ch...

the template fan or the simple template?

silent barnBOT Dec 3, 2020, 3:21 PM

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@mighty ledge posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qpP9pn4Pgb/

ornate wraith Dec 3, 2020, 3:44 PM

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System log documentation (https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/system_log/) contain:

  data:
    title: Something bad happened
    message: '{{ trigger.event.data.message }}'

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It doesn't work any more, probably because trigger.event.data.message become an object.

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I found a way: service" in trigger.event.data.message[0]. Is any better way convert object to string?

mighty ledge Dec 3, 2020, 3:47 PM

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nope, that's the best way. The result should be that anyways

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{{ trigger.event.data.message[0] }}

ornate wraith Dec 3, 2020, 3:52 PM

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How to update documentation?

mighty ledge Dec 3, 2020, 3:54 PM

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Well, message should always be a string regardless of it's contents. Before changing the docs, might want to create an issue.

ornate wraith Dec 3, 2020, 3:58 PM

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will create issue

queen meteor Dec 3, 2020, 4:26 PM

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@mighty ledge also, I've excluded you from the code wall check

hollow bramble Dec 3, 2020, 4:29 PM

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Role exclusion or just petro?

mighty ledge Dec 3, 2020, 4:30 PM

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queen meteor <@!372843932096397333> also, I've excluded you from the code wall check

Thanks!

queen meteor Dec 3, 2020, 4:35 PM

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hollow bramble Role exclusion or just petro?

I did the lazy way of checking. I should really use role based check.

little hazel Dec 3, 2020, 4:48 PM

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is there a way to changethe icon from on and off switch to a toggle in switch.yaml?

timid osprey Dec 3, 2020, 4:58 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/switch.template/ Have you looked through here?

little hazel Dec 3, 2020, 5:25 PM

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yes when i follow that i have a on and off button i want it to be 1 toggle button (like the rest of the switches that work with ha)

mighty ledge Dec 3, 2020, 5:27 PM

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template switch will do that

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you still have to define those values

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otherwise it doesn't know what to turn on or off

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to be clear, it creates a second switch with a dynamic icon of your choosing. You hide the first switch in the background.

stoic cedar Dec 3, 2020, 6:04 PM

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How do i make a switch to just trigger an alexa routine?

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Do i need an input boolean to trigger during the on part?

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Oh i just need a bool with the switch!

grim flicker Dec 3, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Im trying to use a template in a condition in which i want to check if android tv attribute 'appname' is: Netflix but im not sure if value template is right. I cant seem to find how to do this right on the template pages https://hastebin.com/fuwewiheme.yaml

hollow bramble Dec 3, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Take out the if from the template and you should be fine

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{{ is_state_attr('media_player.android_tv', 'app_name', 'Netflix') }}

royal rampart Dec 3, 2020, 9:16 PM

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mighty ledge the template fan or the simple template?

Fan one

craggy shoal Dec 3, 2020, 10:21 PM

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I have a noob question. I have a custom entity, which uses a value template. Where do I actually put it? I initially though it would go into sensors, because it is supposed to be a sensor, but IntelliSense warns i need a platform. Here's my entity battery_consumption: value_template: '{% set batter_cons = sensor.powerwall_battery_now | int %} {% if batter_cons > 0 %} {{ batter_cons | int }} {% else %} 0 {% endif %}' device_class: power unit_of_measurement: W

hollow bramble Dec 3, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Did you read the template sensor docs? https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/template/

craggy shoal Dec 3, 2020, 10:22 PM

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UGH, I was reading the wrong Template docs (automation templatng)

hollow bramble Dec 3, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Yeah there are quite a few pages with that heading. It can get confusing when you're starting

craggy shoal Dec 3, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Lol, true. every time I venture into a new part of HA, it is a windy path

hollow bramble Dec 3, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Eventually you'll get used to it

ivory delta Dec 3, 2020, 10:26 PM

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It has a steep learning cliff.

craggy shoal Dec 3, 2020, 10:27 PM

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I'm a seasoned dev (15+ years professionally), I cant imagine what it is liek for someone not used to having to navigate obscure API references

hollow bramble Dec 3, 2020, 10:27 PM

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If you need docs for integrations it's a pretty straight forward path. If you need docs for any other part of HA.... god speed

craggy shoal Dec 3, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Indeed, the past 12 months of HA improvemnts have drastically improved the "normal" user experience.

ivory delta Dec 3, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Did you recently comment on a Reddit post about HA, Lance?

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I won't say when or which post, to allow you to have some privacy 😄

craggy shoal Dec 3, 2020, 10:31 PM

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nope (I'm Lancelot Software on Reddit), but I have seen a lot of buzz about Core 1.0 making the rounds on Twitter

ivory delta Dec 3, 2020, 10:32 PM

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It's interesting seeing different people's views on difficulty/complexity. It's obviously not a plug and play tool but people all pick it up at varying speeds.

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Even more interesting to me is that some non-devs take to it fairly quickly while some devs struggle.

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You probably saw a discussion along those lines already if you spotted the v1 chat.

craggy shoal Dec 3, 2020, 10:37 PM

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That is interesting, but I'm not too surprised. Devs can sometime get stuck in a rut of a certain way of thinking.. especially devs around the 5 year mark. They'll tout a specific language/platform as the best in the world and everything needs to be done with that thing (I was guilt of that too). then as you gain more experience, it becomes less about a thing and more about the concepts/approach.. you belive in 'the right tool for the job'.... not to go off on a tangent, my point being that the single-mindedness resticts you taking on new ideas

ivory delta Dec 3, 2020, 10:38 PM

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You have me worried now though. I'm just coming up to the 5 year mark... albeit with fewer of the traits you described 🤣

royal rampart Dec 3, 2020, 11:49 PM

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mighty ledge the template fan or the simple template?

Think I've figured it out, I don't need to check the state of the input select just the variable called "speed"

mighty ledge Dec 3, 2020, 11:51 PM

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royal rampart Think I've figured it out, I don't need to check the state of the input select j...

Yes, I posted the templates above that used the speed variable

mighty ledge Dec 3, 2020, 11:52 PM

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royal rampart Think I've figured it out, I don't need to check the state of the input select j...

#templates-archived message

royal rampart Dec 3, 2020, 11:53 PM

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mighty ledge https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/672223497736421388/7840767519699...

Ah sweet, I didn't notice, sorry. This is what I got currently so I'll move to that 🙂 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SbPwMwKTCQ/

mighty ledge Dec 3, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Yeah it got moved into that link

royal rampart Dec 3, 2020, 11:55 PM

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just trying to make it go to the last set speed when I turn it on too 😄

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having mixed results

royal rampart Dec 4, 2020, 12:03 AM

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mighty ledge Yeah it got moved into that link

argument of type 'NoneType' is not iterable...
brb figuring out what I broke

mighty ledge Dec 4, 2020, 12:03 AM

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Did you remove the input select?

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If you did, just replace it with a list. [‘High’, ‘Medium’, ‘Low’]

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if speed in [‘High’, ‘Medium’, ‘Low’]

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Sorry on mobile

royal rampart Dec 4, 2020, 12:17 AM

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mighty ledge Did you remove the input select?

https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hqCdm4nCZv/ is what I got

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sorry, I got interrupted by actual work lol

mighty ledge Dec 4, 2020, 12:21 AM

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Do you actually have the input_select.speed?

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Your speed template is wrong too

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Unless your switches don’t have a state

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And if they don’t have a state, you need to a second service to set the selection for the input select

royal rampart Dec 4, 2020, 12:23 AM

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umm, I'm just using a default widget in lovelace if that's what you mean? the one it chose

  - type: entities
    entities:
      - entity: fan.dining_fan

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the fans are rendered as 4 switches each with on, off. if you switch fan_medium to on it turns the other 3 off

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"fans by dynalite"

mighty ledge Dec 4, 2020, 12:24 AM

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Ok, so the switches show on when you turn them on?

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They are not “momentary”

royal rampart Dec 4, 2020, 12:25 AM

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yes

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and yes, I see I need t make an actual input_select

mighty ledge Dec 4, 2020, 12:25 AM

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Ok then you don’t need the input select at all

royal rampart Dec 4, 2020, 12:26 AM

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oh then nevermind 😄

mighty ledge Dec 4, 2020, 12:30 AM

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{{ ([ states.switch.master_fan_high, states.switch.master_fan_medium, states.switch.master_fan_low ] | selectattr('state', 'eq','on') | map(attribute='object_id') | first).split('_')[-1] | title }}```

royal rampart Dec 4, 2020, 12:30 AM

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wow, where's that go?

mighty ledge Dec 4, 2020, 12:36 AM

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Man, that took me a while to format... coding on mobile sucks

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Anyways that’s your speed template

royal rampart Dec 4, 2020, 12:39 AM

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yes, mobile sux (I use my phone almost exclusively to ssh into things, or type on slack to pretend to work)

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but thanks for the help, it's not easy guessing what I've got and typing on mobile

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I still screwed something up. I might wait till you're not on mobile and try again 😄

mighty ledge Dec 4, 2020, 12:47 AM

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royal rampart I still screwed something up. I might wait till you're not on mobile and try aga...

https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6XFC2jWWfq/

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I just noticed your turn on is turning the dining fan on high though

royal rampart Dec 4, 2020, 12:59 AM

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yeh I'm working on the dining room (As I'm itting under it) don't worry I've been translating since I noticed you were working on master 😄

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Error rendering data template: TypeError: argument of type 'NoneType' is not iterable

royal rampart Dec 4, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Oh, I just found you in the forums, seems you've been fighting fans for a while @mighty ledge

mighty ledge Dec 4, 2020, 2:19 AM

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they aren't that bad, it's just everyones hardware is different