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jolly narwhal
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So can probably push it to 30-35

pine swan
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Thanks. I do have a long range 2.4 GHz WiFi antenna. I think that has the right plug on for the Sonoff dongle. If I just power a dongle, will it repeat with no computer connected?

jolly narwhal
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If you have flashed it as a router and joined it to your mesh

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Yes

pine swan
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"Bad stuff" (TM) will happen if I don't replace the factory ZC firmware with ZR, won't it?

jolly narwhal
thorn bison
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(Please tell me if there's a better place to post this; there are so many channels here ...)
I'm seeing this weird behaviour when trying to change colour/brightness/temperature of a Lidl bulb. The rest of Zigbee/ZHA automations are working OK via ConBee II.

toxic herald
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I just switched from ZHA to Zigbee2MQTT and running my stuff in docker. I'm trying to get my Ikea ON/OFF switch to work in my existing automations. But I don't understand why the sensor.NameOfEntity_action is like changing state 4 times on a press. I have a automation that is trigged on state change it it fires 4 but since i have set it to single it terminates 3 of them. Seems to be very stupid. Or is this home z2m works? Or is there some setting I don't know about. ?

near echo
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@toxic herald Try with the 'click' entity of the button. I don't use entity but I use mqtt trigger. You can create the same on zigbee2mqtt/friendly_name/click and put condition for payload as on and off.
Or just use the click as indicated above

uneven ruin
hazy cradle
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Hello, a copuple days ago arrived my RF-BM-2652P2 , I paired devices and all looks good. Now are all unavailable with this in logs
new async_initialize: all attempts have failed: [DeliveryError('Request failed after 5 attempts: <Status.NWK_INVALID_REQUEST: 194>'), DeliveryError('Request failed after 5 attempts: <Status.NWK_INVALID_REQUEST: 194>'),

thorn bison
brisk pulsar
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Hello, I've added a double light switch (Legrand NetAtmo) to my ZHA setup, no problem to add and control switchs but i'm unable to handle indicator lights on the switchs (it's specifics attributes from manufactuer cluster). Zigbee2MQTT since to handle the leds https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee-herdsman-converters/pull/3832. Is it possible to set manually attributes ? Thanks 🙂

mighty river
jolly narwhal
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Lots of people

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And a bunch of people who realize they need routers too

hybrid crown
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Hey Guys, i have a SonOff 3.0 zigbee usb thing, flashed it with the latest firmware and installed zigbee2mqtt. i set the channel to 25 and had it set up a security key . i ran it and the front panel loads, i hit permit join (i disabled auto join) and i pressed the join button for 10 seconds per the ikea manual

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and the device does not show up

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i have tried multiple devices and having no luck

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there is a usb extension cord between the zigbee stick and the raspberry pi

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any advice?

jolly narwhal
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Which ikea device?

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Also, you would preferably be pairing routers first

hybrid crown
ashen scaffold
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which door sensor is perfect for home assistant (zigbee)

jolly narwhal
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Aqara @ashen scaffold

jolly narwhal
hybrid crown
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and no one on youtube demoing it did

mighty river
hybrid crown
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@jolly narwhal so it should just work at this point? so i may have a defective stick or a bad config?

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i dont see any output when its in pairing mode and its starting to become frustrating

hybrid crown
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so having a light bulb or a router would allow you to have full further coverage

warm burrow
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Hello hello! My new conbee II just arrived, and I'm trying to get it to work. I have 2 systems running Arch Linux, but no matter what I do I can't seem to get /dev/ttyUSB0 or /dev/ttyACM0 to show up... It seems to be working fine under my Windows laptop, so I don't think it's faulty hardware. I'm in the uucp and tty groups, dialout does not exist on my system, and even root can't find those ttys... Anyone got tips?

jolly python
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Have you typed lsusb into the terminal?

jolly python
hybrid crown
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you son of a bitch

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it worked

jolly python
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😂

hybrid crown
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then it said left the network, but it showed up for the second

jolly python
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try again, i had problems pairing my e1744 at the first try

hybrid crown
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Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-02-15 10:43:02: Device '0xb4e3f9fffebdedb6' joined
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-02-15 10:43:02: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/event', payload '{"data":{"friendly_name":"0xb4e3f9fffebdedb6","ieee_address":"0xb4e3f9fffebdedb6"},"type":"device_joined"}'
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-02-15 10:43:02: Starting interview of '0xb4e3f9fffebdedb6'
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-02-15 10:43:02: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/event', payload '{"data":{"friendly_name":"0xb4e3f9fffebdedb6","ieee_address":"0xb4e3f9fffebdedb6","status":"started"},"type":"device_interview"}'
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-02-15 10:43:09: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/event', payload '{"data":{"friendly_name":"0xb4e3f9fffebdedb6","ieee_address":"0xb4e3f9fffebdedb6"},"type":"device_announce"}'
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-02-15 10:43:18: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/0xb4e3f9fffebdedb6', payload ''
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-02-15 10:43:18: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/response/device/rename', payload '{"data":{"from":"0xb4e3f9fffebdedb6","homeassistant_rename":false,"to":"Bed button"},"status":"ok","transaction":"cvcpc-7"}'
Zigbee2MQTT:warn 2022-02-15 10:43:19: Device 'Bed button' left the network
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-02-15 10:43:19: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/event', payload '{"data":{"friendly_name":"Bed button","ieee_address":"0xb4e3f9fffebdedb6"},"type":"device_leave"}'

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man this is weird

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so the device number i can use to add it to the config file?

jolly python
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How far is it away from the coordinator (zigbee stick)

hybrid crown
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5 inches

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maybe two if i lean in a bit

jolly python
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does it work if you not rename it

warm burrow
hybrid crown
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Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-02-15 10:53:10: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/event', payload '{"data":{"friendly_name":"0x50325ffffe046180","ieee_address":"0x50325ffffe046180","status":"started"},"type":"device_interview"}'
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-02-15 10:53:13: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/event', payload '{"data":{"friendly_name":"0x50325ffffe046180","ieee_address":"0x50325ffffe046180"},"type":"device_announce"}'
Zigbee2MQTT:warn 2022-02-15 10:53:21: Device '0x50325ffffe046180' left the network
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-02-15 10:53:21: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/event', payload '{"data":{"friendly_name":"0x50325ffffe046180","ieee_address":"0x50325ffffe046180"},"type":"device_leave"}'

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tried a different device

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the motion sensor

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and its joining and leaving pretty frequently

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Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-02-15 10:56:00: Failed to interview '0x50325ffffe046180', device has not successfully been paired

crisp perch
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Hey guys. I currently have a few Zigbee devices and am running Deconz with a Conbee II. Is there any pros or cons to migrating to zigbee2mqtt? I also bought a Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 Plus dongle that I haven’t decided what to do with so I could swap the Conbee II with it or use it as a repeater.

hybrid crown
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if aint broke dont fix it

crisp perch
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Alright thanks. I wasn’t sure if there were any big features or customizations that Deconz doesn’t offer… or if the Sonoff coordinator offers a better signal with the +20dB antenna.

hybrid crown
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i have the sonoff, i have read that zigbee2mqtt isnt able to levage that "20db"

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but once i get mine up i'll let you know on the range

mighty river
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hi. my zigbee "smart air box" recognized as a router (because it can be a router also), but I would need it to be recognized properly. please help - type of the device: yvx5lh6k

pine swan
jolly python
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He has already solved his problem

mighty river
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If I plug a ConBee II into my Raspberry Pi, which is in the basement, what could I put on the main floor to extend the coverage?

jolly narwhal
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Mostly any mains powered device

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Routers

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You want lots of them

mighty river
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Any mains powered zigbee device?

jolly narwhal
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Mostly

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Not all

mighty river
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Good to know, thanks. Is the Conbee 2 recommended compared to say Sonoffs Dongle Plus?

jolly narwhal
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Eeeeh

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It is varied

obsidian sandalBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

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mighty river
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I was thinking of using deconz.

jolly narwhal
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I did cc2531 - cc1352p2 - zzh - tube Poe coordinator

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I've used Zigbee2mqtt throughout

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With 120+ devices

mighty river
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Hmmm

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Zig-a-zig-ah 🤣

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Spicy!

vestal atlas
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Googling "Zig-a-zig-ah" gives Spice Girls lyrics as result. Spicy indeed

jolly narwhal
vestal atlas
jolly narwhal
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Yes, i just wanted a smaller footprint

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And thought about repurposing the 1352 for sub GHz stuff

mighty river
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The Sonoff dongle is one of the cheapest.

vestal atlas
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The other once are made by hobbyists. Sonoff has economy of scale

vestal atlas
jolly narwhal
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Yes, the antenna on the launchpad was amazing, but with 80+ routers that didn't matter much to me

vestal atlas
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I've gotten my CC2652R7 devkit today, I've got z-stack and z2m running fine on it. Now hunting for tables and things that can take advantage of the bigger memory :). Would be sweet the if the coordinator could directly connect to 100+ devices

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less hops, less latency. At least in my mind 😅

jolly narwhal
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I was hoping I could repurpose the launchpad for LoRA, but maybe I'll do thread at some point

vestal atlas
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you can never have too many border routers then thread becomes a thing I think

jolly narwhal
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I have no discernible latency in my ZigBee network, even if people say the Ikea bulbs lockup

vestal atlas
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I've not noticed anything odd with my ikea lights either

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maybe it was fixed in a fw update?

jolly narwhal
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No idea, I've never had the issue at least, and I've had tradfri for over three years

vestal atlas
jolly narwhal
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Like i have ever gotten rid of anything the last 30 years of tech

ashen mountain
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new to zigbee here.. I don't 100% get this "hold the device being paired close to the coordinator" thing.. is this a real requirement due to some kind of RSSI / time of flight measured security thing or is it enough that the coordinator and device can just hear each other?

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asking because some devices are hardwired into the wall

vestal atlas
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where did you read that? It's actually the opposite. Pair them in place, don't move them to the coordinator

ashen mountain
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in a lot of places actually.. zigbee2mqtt faq, deconz instructions etc

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for example: "If no new node becomes visible in the deCONZ GUI, power down all you ZigBee routers (except the coordinator), and move the device close to coordinator. If you cannot move the device, use a USB extension cable to move the ConBee, or use a USB power bank to move the Raspberry Pi with the RaspBee. "

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based on what you say, I am assuming it should work so that if the device can hear any router then it should pair ok in-place?

jolly narwhal
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Yes

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Always pair in place

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Pair routers first

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Then end devices

fair mountain
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Anyone have any examples of an automation that would let me track if something has been long pressed via a zha_event? The device itself only sends a button press.

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or like a double press

ashen mountain
fair mountain
fair mountain
ashen mountain
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yes, but Schneider has their own "Wiser" hub etc for zigbee so they don't really say anything about generic zigbee features.

fair mountain
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i mean about neutral

ashen mountain
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yes, no neutral needed

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well I did find a guide which implies that all 230V devices are routers

lilac wharf
ashen mountain
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always saying "try closer to the coordinator"

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nothing about routers

lilac wharf
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Sure, in a specific situation

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Not all the time

ashen mountain
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well this schneider dimmer is not causing any log messages on z2m when I try to join it next to a router

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as it is zigbee 3.0 certified I have some expectation that it should be usable..

fair mountain
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is there a way to force an entity to be available regardless of it's actual state? i can do this with Hue, but not with ZHA

ashen mountain
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I got my schneider dimmer to join whee.. so many different reset procedures and timings.

lean echo
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I've observed that my automations fail to call the light.turn_on service when I use device instead of entity sometimes... what's the reason/explanation for that? I'm re-do many automations now... lucky me I'm just starting! LOL

hybrid crown
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thanks guys, i got it to work, now i need more devices to act as routers.

vestal atlas
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New ikea OTA out, but it seems like some of the lights crashes after the update and is just flickering rapidly between warm and cold color. Rebooting the lights fixes it O.o. Out of 11 I've updated so far, 3 has done this.
40 more to update, let's see how that goes

vital ermine
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Hello. Somehow I have an ghost device +light entity. It reappears when I delete it. It's not connected to any other device when I look it up in the network topology.

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It's a device I don't own as well!

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Is there some low level delete possible?

vital ermine
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ZHA integration btw

hollow rover
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Hey, if somehow my ethernet Connection Drops, zigbee devices will still function?

jolly narwhal
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Well, yes, ZigBee lives outside of Ethernet

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But the question has a lot of whatifs

hollow rover
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I Just want it to toggle a Plug to activate my siren even if the Connection drops

jolly narwhal
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If the trigger happens outside of the network and the plug is ZigBee

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And your coordinator is usb local

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Sure, probably

hollow rover
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I got a coordinator in the usb of my raspberry and im using aqara door sensors. I assume it would be possible to toggle a zigbee plug without Connection

jolly narwhal
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Yes

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How often does the connection drop though?

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I don't think any of my servers have lost their connection unintended in the last 25 years

hollow rover
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In the last month they where working on the cables in my village. Some days i wouldnt have any internet connection for 6 hours

jolly narwhal
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Oh wow, don't think I've had internet service down for that long for at least two decades

hollow rover
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The are working really hard here to get 500-1gb Ethernet

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But sometimes they break everything

fair mountain
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Other than setting mains powered unavailable to a very high integer, is there a way to allow a device to be 'controlled' while it's offline?

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my use case is I have a bunch of zigbee bulbs behind a zigbee light switch. I have an event listener to turn the light swtich on if the light bulbs have their state changed.

lilac wharf
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Why not bypass the load on the switch?

fair mountain
lilac wharf
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So why not dumb bulbs then?

fair mountain
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so I can change temperature and brightness..?

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I use adaptive lighting on my whole house.

jolly narwhal
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Ugh switches

lilac wharf
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And how am I supposed to know that?

jolly python
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Hm but that’s not the intended use case for zigbee

lilac wharf
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Anyway, no, I don't know of a way to still "control" those bulbs when unavailable. I suppose you could create input_booleans for each of the lights and use those instead (and sync them to the state of the lights where anything other than the light being on is off for the boolean)

jolly python
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You can maybe create a slider for each state of the light thats controlled and if its changed it changes the state of the light and if the light gets available again it will be chabged arcording to the sliders

lilac wharf
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Would really recommend bypassing the load on the switch though

jolly python
lilac wharf
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They could be sengled lights though which aren't routers

limpid cloud
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You also can turn off all non-permanent smart bulbs with an automation before pairing, so devices that statically use the strongest device as routers are not confused.

fair mountain
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I have about 29 mains powered routers that are permanently on.

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I'm wondering if Leviton has a cluster command to ignore the button press to actually trigger power.

lilac wharf
fair mountain
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Ideally I'd like to bind the bulbs to the leviton switch and have the leviton just issue a zigbee command on/off

lilac wharf
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That's what I was getting at with bypassing the load (if bypassing the relay isn't an option)

fair mountain
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except there is zero docs for the leviton devices, and nobody has them in thew ild as far as I can tell except me lol

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Leviton doesn't even manufacture their own zigbee hubs, and doesnt recommend any to use.

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Leviton DG15S

jolly narwhal
limpid cloud
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@lilac wharf : the devices clever enough to find new routes are hopefully clever enough to find new ones when these go offline.

fair mountain
limpid cloud
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@fair mountain great minds (or sick minds?) think alike ;)

fair mountain
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I also dont see any way to decouple the relay from the on/off cluster command

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Leviton doesn't seem to have any public docs.

jolly python
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And if you ask them directly

fair mountain
fair mountain
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I also don't th ink device binding works on the leviton switch

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ah, group bindings dont work, but device bindings do

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@lilac wharf
You can unbind the wall switch from itself, and then bind the lights to the switch. Now curious what happens if AC power is killed ...

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And the answer is the Leviton turns itself off and you cant' turn it back on with the unbound switch 😄

idle nest
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Error Publish 'set' 'state' to 'Lightstrip TV Woonkamer' failed: 'Error: Command 0x0017880103ce03f5/11 genOnOff.off({}, {"timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":false,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":null,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (no response received)'

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im getting those errors messages alot in zigbee2mqtt.. Does anyone know what this problem is? I also experience some weird issues with light buttons which doesnt change the state while the light turns on/off..

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Also everything seems to be alot slower before i moved over everything from HUE bridge & deconz to zigbee2mqtt with conbee ii

lilac wharf
fair mountain
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im trying to do otherwise lol

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I dont think I can save the previous state of the switch, i.e. force it back on when AC is cut

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StartupOnOff is a cluster attribute, but I can't write it. And it's set to None.

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If I unbind the switch, it works exactly how I want it to .. i.e. only controls the bulbs. but, if power is cut, the lights are permanently off because the relay is off :x

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2022-02-16 12:04:03 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.api] Set attribute for: cluster_id: [6] cluster_type: [in] endpoint_id: [1] attribute: [16387] value: [0xFF] manufacturer: [None] response: [[[WriteAttributesStatusRecord(status=<Status.UNSUPPORTED_ATTRIBUTE: 134>, attrid=16387)]]]
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outer plaza
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Does this prompt in z2mqtt log (Data request failed with error: 'No network route' (205))' mean I have to pair the device again? I've integrated in in another branch that already has been removed.. Weird, because I can preview status, but cannot push anything to module

jolly narwhal
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Well, the router it worked through might be dead too

outer plaza
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Weird, everything else is working. I'll try to put it into pairing mode tomorrow morning, maybe this will help.

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I've been messing a lot lately, mainly due to preparing dev/prod tenants. Lots of changes have been made to Prod, lots of changes have been reset. I need to to workout some routine in maintaining dev/staging/prod tenants at home, but it's hard hah

blazing escarp
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Hi guys, I paired the Philips Hue Play to zigbee2mqtt but when I use the MQTT integration of Home Assistant, I can only change the brightness. The devices supports many features like changing colors and other effects. How can I fix that issue? I've used the auto-discovery feature of the MQTT integration. Thanks

hasty fable
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Hello guys, I have stupid question. What is the benefit control zigbee devices through zigbee2mqtt over ZHA.
They communicate over mqtt protocol or how its works. Becouse what I understand, when I have zigbee devices I can control them with ZHA addon, when reflash firmware on devices to tasmota, I can control them over MQTT addon in HA. Thanks.

idle nest
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maybe good to know is that i got conbee ii with usb extension cable
13 hue light
1 ikea light
3 aqara xiaomi motion sensors
2 aqara temp sensors
1 Hue motion sensor
2 aqara door sensors

This all used to work great while i used deconz & hue bridge ( for hue stuff )

limpid cloud
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Have you tried deleting and re-pairing the LED strip?

verbal shale
simple sentinel
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Above that and the heat development is liable to cause some nasty burn risks

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Not to mention whatever the fuse and cables are dimensioned for

verbal shale
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@simple sentinel I have one that supports 20A for a year now, but its wifi, and I use it for charge my car with 3,4kw/h

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wifi sucks

simple sentinel
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What you do in your own home is between you, your electrician and your national electrical safety authorities

verbal shale
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lol

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i guess

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I just want to use 16amps for my car

simple sentinel
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3.4kw only works out to 15Amps, so you are fine though

verbal shale
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and the plugs 16amps shuts downs when it goes 16.1

simple sentinel
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just if anybody gets one and magically thinks they should be able to draw 20A on an EU outlet, it might not be a good time

verbal shale
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im not, ive try several zigbee plugs with 16ams

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but what I see is, if the voltage drops, the W start to get hight and the amps get maximium 16.1a

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then it shuts downs completly

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thats why I did get a 20amp wifi plug.

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i really dont want to use 20amps, i just want to use it for my car

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at 16ams, 16.1

simple sentinel
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Well, for that manufacturer, the only thing they have on the zigbee2mqtt supported device website is not a smart plug.
Doesn't mean it doesn't exist, but no one has put it threw the process of getting it supported out of the box

verbal shale
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im trying to contact some chineses guys in shengdoo

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mas no success

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lol

simple sentinel
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Would it be drawing 16.1 constantly or is it during surges?

verbal shale
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no

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its like 1 second in 5 minuts

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but its egnouth to shut down the plug

simple sentinel
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you are on 230v?

verbal shale
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yes

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but sometimes drops to 190v

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and get 3400w

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16.1amps

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it the car demanding

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the car charger is rated to have 16amp and 3.6kw/h

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for a normal plug

simple sentinel
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sort of feels like the voltage drop is what is the biggest issue, to be honest

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if it draws 3400w even at 190v, thats 18 amps, roughly

verbal shale
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:S

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usually its faulty of my eletric instalation or from vendor?

simple sentinel
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Do you have monitoring anywhere else in the house, so you could check whether the drop happens elsewhere?

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You'd think the charger couldn't increase amp usage when the voltage falls bellow 215v though, sounds scary

barren spade
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Hey guys, I'm looking for a home assistant compatible/zigbee compatible led controller for single color analog 24v leds and I'd like to be able to connect and control at least 2 led strips per controller if possible, otherwise I'd have to buy 3 controllers for my 3 strips.

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I was looking at Gledopto, but from what I've seen I'd need 3 controllers from them, which makes them a bit pricey.

outer plaza
barren spade
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about 5 meters

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given correct power supply

vestal atlas
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5 * 10W, should be fine with a 50W+ psu

barren spade
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does it matter that it's constant current?

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I wanted constant current so I don't have to power inject on both sides

vestal atlas
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Didn't notice that, no idea what implications that has 🤷‍♂️

idle nest
jolly python
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Wich zigbee channel are you on

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Same as before or zigbee2mqtt standard one (11)?

idle nest
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Standard but I also tried zha and got same issue

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I tried couple devices on 20 on zigbee2mqtt

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But same aswell.. and changed back after 6 lights or so

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Or do the old ones interfere?

shadow valley
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i'm looking for a "mesh" network for that will basically be a string.. i want to set up something that can "propagate" through a row of street lights

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i see that z-wave only supports routing messages across 4 "hops", does zigbee have this limitation?

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(and i realize the reasoning for having this limitation)

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is there another way of hooking up light posts like this? there's probably roughly 100 posts

golden vessel
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I remember some time ago that there were some issues with the Sonoff ZB3 Dongle Plus stick with ZHA... Is it still troublesome or newer firmware is good?

jolly python
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Do you have the newest firmware?

idle nest
idle nest
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But it worked good before I moved over to zigbee2mqtt

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I’ll try clean install tomorrow..

jolly python
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If you want to keep zigbee2mqtt, maybe a change of the coordinator isn‘t a bad idea.

fair mountain
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But I flashed the latest firmware

golden vessel
limpid cloud
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@golden vessel I've got the Sonoff plus with latest koenkk fw, and it works very well. Better than Conbee II with deconz.

fair mountain
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I have probably 30 Aqara sensors, mayb emore

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oh. I have my Aqara switches on ZHA + ZB 3.0 sonoff already

limpid cloud
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I've got lots of Xiaomi on mine, only one location has problems: a door sensor on a remote steel door.

fair mountain
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Sounds like a magnet problem 😛

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I tried putting a door sensor on my mail box, no go.

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It is also a metal box.

limpid cloud
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Something like it. That it is cold probably also dos not help (battery)

fair mountain
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This is so, so, so much better than my 2x Hue bridges, 2x Phoscon bridges ...

fair mountain
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and we never get -10C..

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It survived our torrential rains

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it might be working again but I got tired of ESPhome saying it was unavailable.

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i very much want reliable outdoor zigbee door sensors. Right now I have HA setup to yell at me if my alarm is armed and its night time if it detects a person in my backyard or side of my house, but I would also like to do the same for my gates.

limpid cloud
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With all the cats roaming around nex to my house, I probably mwould goncrazy with a setup like this

fair mountain
hazy kayak
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My Z2M integration stops working every couple days, I'm using the Zig-a-zig-ah stick from electrolama and get the following error log:
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-02-17 20:31:41: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-02-17 20:31:41: Failed to start zigbee Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-02-17 20:31:41: Check https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/installation/20_zigbee2mqtt-fails-to-start.html for possible solutions Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-02-17 20:31:41: Exiting... Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-02-17 20:31:41: Error: Error while opening serialport 'Error: Error: No such file or directory, cannot open /dev/ttyUSB0' at SerialPort.<anonymous> (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/z-stack/znp/znp.ts:146:28) at SerialPort._error (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/node_modules/@serialport/stream/lib/index.js:198:14) at /app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/node_modules/@serialport/stream/lib/index.js:242:12
Help appreciated!

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Only solution is unplugging the usb stick from the 'server' it's plugged into, inserting it and completly restarting the host

fair mountain
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@hazy kayak that's not an issue with Z2M, that's the USB stick dropping from your system.

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also they recommend you use /dev/serial/by-id/... and not the /dev/tty... entries.

jolly python
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An other stick than conbee, see the sticky notes

fair mountain
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I have one bulb out of 54 Hue bulbs that will not for the life of me add to ZHA. I can even re-pair it with my Hue hub, via serial #. No problem.

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The good ol' Hue dimmer remote reset trick did it.. wtf

uneven ruin
shadow valley
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dimmer for outdoor usage? doesn't need to be anything IP-fancy, as it will be put in a box, but it needs to be able to handle temperature variations.. i want to build up an outdoor mesh network with around 170 nodes.. all nodes will be mains powered..

obsidian sandalBOT
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shadow valley
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so typically up to 50 meter between each pole

vestal atlas
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Have you done any POC to make sure 50m works? Very interesting project!

shadow valley
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no, i need some devices to test with first .)

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but this is outdoor.. 2.4 GHz outdoor should be quite doable.. and the mesh technology should help as well, no?

jolly narwhal
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I do 25 without any issue

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And without any tuning or special work

shadow valley
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25 what?

jolly narwhal
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Meters

shadow valley
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ah.. of course 🙂

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which devices?

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and what do you think about doing this in a "string" topology?

jolly narwhal
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Tradfri bulb on the outside of my house in a metal housing to a aqara door sensor on my metal mailbox, plus up to my neighbours house and inside her kitchen to a hue strip

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So I have 25ish meters two different ways

shadow valley
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are there any outdoor floodlights that has zigbee built-in?

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oh, interesting

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"The Pro version has a higher wireless range (up to 30m instead of the usual 20m), improved ZigBee Mesh function."

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hm, that won't do

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so i need a very good radio built-in

upper magnet
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Hello, i'm trying to setup another zigbee network with Zigbee2MQTT, however i already have a homeassistant running that.

What should i look out for pan_id? anything more.

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its also on the same lan network.

jolly narwhal
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Do you have two coordinators?

upper magnet
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I have 2 zigbee usb that controll the zigbee network yes.

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The device is a raspberry pi the one i want to make another zigbee network

jolly python
shadow valley
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wickedly expensive for this use case

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especially since we need 170 🙂

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we need something that's less than 100 USD/EUR

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i guess it's possible to get some discount based on quantity, but still 🙂

upper magnet
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cant you select one of these?

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or is that not what you need.

shadow valley
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yeah, i found the gledopto earlier.. but the range of just 30 meters won't cut it

thick plover
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i just deleted and re-added my MQTT integration, devices show up but the entities do not, i.e. a light bulb is there but no light entity, any idea what causes that? It’s only affecting Zigbee2mqtt devices

shadow valley
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anyone know of a zigbee dimmer for LED lights that also has an external antenna for better range?

shadow valley
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i was more hoping for 100 meter outdoors

jolly narwhal
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So you are looking for LoRA

shadow valley
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what kind of devices are available for that?

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i need a dimmer of some kind

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and how can i integrate that with anything ?

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and can i build a mesh lora network?

jolly narwhal
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No, LoRA is p2p or gateway + child devices

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But in theory 10km range

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Without LoRAWAN

slender thicket
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Hey all, been a while...!

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I'm having a problem with Z2M that i was hoping someone could help with.. I run a Tubeszb ethernet coordinator.. and in z2m i'm trying to set the pulse_configuration on my energy monitor (via the gui).. but i keep getting the below error

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Publish 'set' 'pulse_configuration' to 'Frient Energy Monitor' failed: 'Error: Write 0x0015bc001b022574/2 seMetering({"develcoPulseConfiguration":2000}, {"sendWhen":"immediate","timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":true,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":4117,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (Data request failed with error: 'MAC channel access failure' (225))'

shadow valley
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what is a gateway in lora?

slender thicket
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Googling seems to indicate to move the zigbee stick away from the pi.. but i'm actually using neither so i'm a bit stuck

vestal atlas
shadow valley
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you mean subscription service?

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that's totally out of the question

vestal atlas
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No idea what options there are, but there are lots of street lights around the word that are controlled somehow. There must be solutions out there

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😅

shadow valley
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of course, using some kind of cellular-based technology.. and then get 170+ subscriptions.. but.. no 🙂

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what is NAN communication?

eternal pawn
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looking for a good zigbee ledcontroller if possible 12 or/and 24V, germany , read that some make highpitchnoices when dimming want to avoid that and dont wanna change the elko inside it

shadow valley
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hm, what about power line communication?

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since all this is mains-powered and on the same circuit

opaque pike
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just to be sure. updating firmware on a conbee 2 in a different pc does not remove the devices its connected to right? im running z2m on a rpi4 and i just to unplug it and update it in my windows pc

jolly python
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Lower frequency = higher range

opaque pike
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i had all sorts of weird problems until i did that

vestal atlas
shadow valley
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Yeah, that's what i also found

slender thicket
shadow valley
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Also more expensive

opaque pike
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oh yeah i can totally see i misread that

slender thicket
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lol no worries

opaque pike
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sorry

slender thicket
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i've resolved it now i think

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rebooted it and it seems to of kicked in.. it might be the route it was taking

shadow valley
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Anyone used power line with several devices? Or is that p2p?

opaque pike
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yeah make sure u dont have any routers inbetween that can be powered off

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i had problems with a bunch of bulbs that were mains powered and close to my coordinator... if they were off nothing worked

shadow valley
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So basically KNX?

jolly python
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So if every device is connected directly to coordinator it would work

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Directional zigbee antenna could also be an idea

opaque pike
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what are you trying to do? connect a different building to ur zigbee network?

shadow valley
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This is in a forest, but with paths cut out under the lines made out by the points on the map. The dream is to be able to adjust each light individually. So this is like light posts/street lights, only in a forest.

shadow valley
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someone also suggested LoRa

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all are mains-powered, so power is not a problem

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that's why i was also thinking about powerline

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and stuff like KNX?

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so if LoRa has the range.. then i could maybe set up some kind of star-based topology and set up one gateway that all 170+ nodes connect to? kind of like wifi?

vestal atlas
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If you thought z-wave is expensive, wait untill you see KNX pricing 😅

shadow valley
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ah, ok 🙂

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then scratch that

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but LoRa intrigued me a bit

eternal pawn
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want to dimm it alot without noises

sour shadow
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I've got the Gledopto ones, can't say I've heard any noise from them

eternal pawn
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there are alot of them

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which one do you have ?

shadow valley
sour shadow
shadow valley
sour shadow
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Wet string

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The real answer depends on your budget and physical limitations. Zigbee is likely to struggle to build a (single) reliable mesh, and other mesh networks are likely right out. If you can deploy remote coordinators then maybe you could build multiple meshes. Wired is likely to be better here.

shadow valley
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wired as in cobber? cat? or fibre?

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and i need a switch in each pole

sour shadow
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"Yes"

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Wired as in some form of wired smart lights

shadow valley
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hm.. not convinced 🙂

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but something that runs over power line?

sour shadow
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No idea, we're back to budget

shadow valley
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cheap as possible 😉

sour shadow
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Then you are, to use the technical term, fucked

shadow valley
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we're thinking around 100 EUR per node

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incl. the light

sour shadow
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Even PoE is going to be a challenge here

shadow valley
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PoE is limited to around 100 meters, well?

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the longest stretch would be several kilometers if you want to run poe centrally

sour shadow
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Yup, 100 meters

shadow valley
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so poe won't cut it at all

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i think we need some kind of rf

sour shadow
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Which will have major issues with the trees

shadow valley
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LoRa was a bit intriguing

eternal pawn
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ty alot guys

sour shadow
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LoRa is likely one of the few wireless technologies that'll handle the environment well enough

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At least until you get into the professional stuff

eternal pawn
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yeah lora works fine for me

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if u dont need alot of datatransfere

shadow valley
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what do you mean by professional stuff?

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LoRa is star topology?

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no mesh?

sour shadow
shadow valley
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but you said "until"?

sour shadow
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Yes, because consumer stuff isn't designed for noisy/high loss environments

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So, if you go up to the expensive stuff, it'll cope better

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Your budget won't allow that

shadow valley
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ok, so you mean cheap/consumer stuff won't be able to handle this environment particularly well?

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but LoRa isn't mesh at all? it's star topology?

bright nebula
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hi. sometimes my zigbee thermometers stop reporting new temperatures for hours on end. in which order should I restart the following, to restore functionality? I have a coordinator (z-bee duo, on LAN), zigbee2mqtt, and mosquitto

sour shadow
shadow valley
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ah!

bright nebula
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I have added a crontab entry to restart mosquitto everyday and that had fixed my issues, but today nothing works 😐

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it had been working fine for weeks

sour shadow
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Restarting is a bad choice

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Try troubleshooting the problem instead

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One thing to do is replace the batteries

bright nebula
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they're reporting 100%, the devices are only a few weeks old

sour shadow
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Doesn't necessarily mean much

bright nebula
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my zigbee contact detector is reporting its state fine

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Looks like I had to pair the thermometers again

spare hinge
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Hi,
I just paired an IKEA on/off button with a ConBee II over ZHA and all seemed ok. But now whenever I press the two buttons some of the lights turn on and off even though I didn't create any automation.e emparelhado directamente com elas. It's as if they were grouped automatically. I found that some strange groups called no_name_group_0xFF0 were showing up in the logs. So I went to ZHA integration and deleted all those groups. But it's still happening. I don't know what to do.
I already tried several times to delete the device and pair it again, to no avail.
And idea on why this is happening? Please help. Thanks!

tropic depot
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what is the remote?

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some zigbee 3 ones will use a global broadcast if they aren't bound correctly

crimson dust
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Hey! So if I want to add more sensors etc to my HA and want to use Zigbee.. I just buy a ConBee II USB Zigbee-controller and then start to add the sensors? Do it have good range?

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There was a Zigbee Hub M1S - Aqara as well.. do it also have the ability add sensors to?

upper magnet
jolly python
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You have to use routers to have a good range

upper magnet
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zigbeemqtt works great with it.

crimson dust
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Ah ok so my router decides the range?

jolly python
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Routers are mains powered devices like bulbs and smart plugs

lilac wharf
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I'd consider other coordinators too though

jolly python
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To have only sensors is not a good idea and if you haven’t bought the conbee already and you do not want to use deconz see the sticky notes for a good coordinator

obsidian sandalBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

Command '.pickyourstick' was invoked by: Tediore
crimson dust
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Hm okok thanks! Will look into this

daring spear
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Hey I have and Aqara motion sensor connected to HA via zigbee2mqtt using a zzh usb dongle. This has worked great to turn a night light off, but now it suddenly just stopped working. I haven't changed the automation at all and either way the entity does not register and movement. Any ideas?

lilac wharf
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Most likely the battery died or it dropped off the network

uneven egret
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hi! i restored home assistant from a backup (on a separate server, but with the same zigbee usb/hub) and all but ~3 of my zigbee devices are unable to connect. am i missing something obvious, and can i fix this without re-pairing everything? i'm using ZHA

warped zealot
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anyone tried that tuya zigbee USB router/range extender? i'd be curious if people have had a positive experience with it as i have an always-on powerboard with USB ports already right where i'd want to put it to help some of my low-LQI devices

jolly python
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Why not use a normal zigbee stick as router?

jolly python
uneven egret
thorn bison
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I have moved some Lidl/Livarno 💡s over to HA, mostly without problems. The repairing, though, means I can't use them in the Lidl Home app any more. Q1: is that normal?
Because of this, I have another 💡 that I haven't moved over yet, as its controlled by the little 4-button remote control (also Zigbee). I need that to continue working for other people in the house. Will that need to be re-programmed through HA instead, if I move the bulb to HA?
(If it matters, I'm using a mains Lidl hub and a ConBee II stick with RPi4.)

jolly python
uneven ruin
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@thorn bison things can only be paired to one controller (your hub or HA). But once both the buttons and the lights are paired in HA you should be able to connect the light directly to the button again

reef inlet
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hi all, is there a way to force zigbee devices to reconnect to the coordinator/HA (using ZHA) I find that if there are any network issues in my network , i lose all/most of my zigbee lights. sometimes turning them off/on at the switch works, but sometimes not (and what would happen if you change all the light switches to zigbee switches instead?)

jolly python
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Is your coordinator if is usb on a2.0 extension?

jolly narwhal
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That sounds very strange

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I've never lost a light in three years

jolly python
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And have you watched out for interference with wifi

jolly narwhal
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And I have 80 lights or so

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What coordinator is this, and what lights is probably a better question

thorn bison
fair mountain
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Anyone actually get motion events out of the Sonoff SNZB-03?

fair mountain
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lol omfg. they send 'clear' events even when motion is detected.

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bah i have 5 of these

jovial aspen
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Do not buy Sonoff

jolly narwhal
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And preferably not tuya

jovial aspen
vestal atlas
# jovial aspen Do not buy Sonoff

their new stuff uses cc2652p, it's not proven but I would assume that fixes any issues there was. Not sure if they already sell those or if they have old stock tho

marsh osprey
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I have some Lidl Zigbee bulbs connected via the ZHA integration. There was a power cut here, and when the power came back on all the bulbs turned on (they were off before the power cut).
Is there any way to control this - either have them be off when power is resstored or to restore the previous state?

jolly narwhal
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If they support power state setting sure

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All my hue and tradfri do

marsh osprey
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I'm not sure if the bulbs support it, but is there any documentation on how to set the default power state using ZHA? Everything I find appears to be for Zigbee2MQTT.

jolly narwhal
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If the zigbee2mqtt docs say it can be done it can probably be done with ZHA too

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But i dont know zha

molten linden
fair mountain
marsh osprey
fair mountain
jolly python
tidal frigate
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I am trying to connect a new Zigbee thermostat to HA using ZHA but it does not expose any entities, such as temperate set point and current temperature. Any reecomendations on how to debug this? Will I need to create a ZHA qwuirk?

mighty river
sour shadow
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ZHA? Zigbee2MQTT? deCONZ?

grand sail
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What motion sensors should i buy?

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Apart from hue because they are really expensive

jolly narwhal
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Aqara

mighty river
jolly narwhal
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It does not

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ZHA is the home assistant core ZigBee integration, zigbee2mqtt is another one, and deconz is yet another one

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If you don't know you are probably running ZHA

mighty river
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the last 2 sound no familiar, so I think the 1st one

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sidenote: HA can extract 3 metrics from the 5 it can monitor via tuya (maybe important, I do 't know). Via ZHA it shows up only as a router, without metrics (entities)

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any idea or procedure how could it be corrected ? maybe I shall dump something and upload that to help HA development for this ?

fair mountain
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How long can we expect ZHA to take to populate all entries as being available after a restart of HASS? I have 105 devices paired and it's taking ~2 minutes.

fair mountain
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What's "from cache"?

mellow geode
fair mountain
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This has to be a bug ..

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It loads zigpy application state for the devices

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and then proceeds to serially initialize them 😐

fair mountain
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async_initialize_devices_and_entities specifically skips using the cache (use_cache=False) for mains powered devices, which is what I assume the "restored" is .. would be nice if you could specify a delta, or.. if you could specify how many devices were initialised in parallel ..

fair mountain
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Increasing it to 4 cut the initialization time in half

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anything over has no affect as its waiting for devices to timeout before proceeding.. sigh

tropic depot
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It’s not serial

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The calls are throttled in gather calls

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the reason being the network can’t handle the traffic. You’ll see that by increasing the count in the semaphores

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and the init time will not improve much

tropic depot
tropic depot
tropic depot
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Why are there timeouts… that’s the real question

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I am working on something that will make things “better” but it will most likely require a migration of sorts

mellow geode
tropic depot
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and it’s still a ways off

tropic depot
mellow geode
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ah yeah, makes sense

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huh, I don't think I have any offline mains devices though, but I'll go through the logs later

tropic depot
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Any trace logs you can provide would be helpful

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make sure the radio lib is on debug

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so we can see what’s happening with the network traffic… 5 mins is rough

mellow geode
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yeah, I haven't had much time lately. I also still want to check the hue "failed to unpack" LightLink thinh

tropic depot
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Also, the init order is irrelevant

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nothing special there

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they’re only grouped by type (mains / battery) to reuse code w/ inverted flags

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so the init code is shared and we just change the flag that goes to cached state or live device reads

fair mountain
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I have offline mains devices.

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@tropic depot Why does then read the cached status for mains, then not use it? (And why does it need to wait for all mains devices to respond before them being available? Or is it just blocking on timed out devices before iterating through the online ones?)

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(And is there any danger in increasing the semaphore there? )

hardy crane
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When changing channels in Z2M do you need to do anything extra apart from changing it in the addon's config?

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can't tell if the error is because I should be doing something more or unrelated

sour shadow
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"the error" ... you know better than that ablobjoy

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But yes, you do, you have to delete the coordinator backup and re-pair everything

hardy crane
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hahaha

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I had to say the error to lure you here

sour shadow
hardy crane
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I'm on 3h of sleep apologies

sour shadow
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As much as that?

hardy crane
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Do omnipotent/omniscient beings sleep even?

sour shadow
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Sleep is a myth

hardy crane
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It's like hassio it doesn't exist but it does

sterile sleet
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how does hue manage to change channels without re-pair? is it coming to othe z* implementations anytime?

jolly narwhal
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guessing they use a sidechannel

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that sends a message about the new channel before it is changed

sterile sleet
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so this is a thing in the spec? or is it cheating?

jolly narwhal
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I'm guessing it is propritary

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but @vestal atlasprobably knows, he always knows what I don't know 😢

jolly python
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But all hue compatible devices seem to also could do that

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Except green energy harvest modules

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Ok the tuya gateway can‘t do it as it seems

vestal atlas
jolly narwhal
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I have a spare hue hub

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just sitting in a bin

vestal atlas
jolly python
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Is it possible to get acces to a tuya firmware update if you have the hub and update a device with it

jolly narwhal
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Yes please

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share the firmware files

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get them into zigbee2mqtt

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😄

sterile sleet
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i have a hub and a spare conbee, if sniffing is possible I can get you the output? never did that

jolly narwhal
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I should repurpose my cc1352 and zzh soon as routers, they are just in my drawer currently

vestal atlas
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I'm probably not the most quialified to figure it out. I've only used nrf52840 for sniffing, and only enought to figure out what the network is doing and to add feature to a device.
It's also a bit involved to sniff from a network if you don't know the network key as you first need to sniff out the key while pairing a deivce to the network

hardy crane
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If I pick channel 25 and have one of the APs in the house on CH11 would it still have potential issues? (assuming of course only 20Mhz on the wifi)

vestal atlas
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Those channels are as far apart as they can be so you'll be fine. Just don't have your zigbee coordinator cuddling with the AP 😅

sterile sleet
hardy crane
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I have that bookmarked haha

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Channel 25 would be interfering if I had 40Mhz enabled on channel 11 on the wifi yes

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but since it's only 20Mhz I was hoping this should be fine

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But was wondering maybe it's still close enough

vestal atlas
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oh, sorry! I read channel 1 🙈

hardy crane
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Yeah no haha

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I wish

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think that's still OK though? 🙈

jolly python
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You are only in the sideband lobe so should work

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See sticky notes

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Cant you change your aps to a channel 1 and 6 configuration

hardy crane
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There are 3 in the house 1/6/11

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was at least considering changing the one closest to the coordinator to not be the 11 one (don't remember which is which)

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Z2M was been having some issues with devices so wanted to see if it's because of interreference or not

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and this is a new coordinator / house so no mesh yet. Literally just 2-3 temp sensors

jolly python
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No mesh is bad, how far are the sensors away

hardy crane
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2-5 meters give or take

fair mountain
#

someone built a router firmware for the zbbridge to just join the mesh and repeat

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amazing

hardy crane
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can't say that without giving a link

molten linden
# fair mountain amazing

more importantly it's signed by itead/sonoff so it can be flashed over serial and doesn't need jtag/swd and a new bootloader. still wary of the possible interference from the onboard wifi.

fair mountain
fair mountain
molten linden
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have troubleshooted countless issues with customers.

fair mountain
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I think the bigger issue with zbridge is that people try to use it over wifi with the serial integration with ZHA 🙂

molten linden
#

almost always if not a bad solder joint

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it's interference

fair mountain
# molten linden it's interference

I think a lot of developers live in SFH in the middle of nowhere with zero other 2.4ghz traffic, but like .. if you're in the City, my last building there were 80 2.4ghz networks in range, and zigbee just .. worked. mostly.

hardy crane
#

50LQI next to the coordinator and failing to pair further away doesn't sound good

jolly python
#

Wich coordinator do you have

hardy crane
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CC2652P SMLIGHT

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the LAN one

jolly python
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Okay, have you already checked which channel the next ap has and do they have sufficient distance

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Coordinator to ap i mean

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Maybe you can temporarily deactivate the aps to be sure it isnt interference

hardy crane
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distance wise I think it's OK since the AP is up in the ceiling

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whereas currently coordinator is down here

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I've yet to look if the closest AP is the one on channel 11

vestal atlas
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don't base your judgement of the network quality on a single sonoff end device. Have you tried with some other device?

hardy crane
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the one I tried further away was an aqara temp sensor that wasn't pairing at all

fair mountain
oak pike
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I have a Nortek zwave/zigbee combo coordinator at the moment and about 50 total devices with a split between zwave and zigbee. Looking long term for when I inevitably have to upgrade, is there not a straight forward way to back everything up and just drop it on the new coordinator or would it require a full re-pairing of each device and full setup again? In this case I'm using ZHA.

oblique scarab
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Does ZHA allow to pair with wifi devices? I got a sonoff bridge, which originally says it supports both wifi and zigbee protocols. Flashed it with Tasmota, connected via ZHA. Is it supposed to be able to pair with a sonoff wifi plug? Or does it only support Zigbee devices now?

lilac wharf
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The bridge itself doesn't pair/control WiFi devices. You can just use the ewelink app with both WiFi and Zigbee devices if you have the zbbridge with stock firmware

oblique scarab
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ah, I guess I misunderstood what it does, thanks

fair mountain
lilac wharf
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|| Or Tasmota ||

keen jetty
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Hi All, quick question before i start doing more research/debuggng.
in the last 24 hours my ZHA switches (LUMI Connected via Zigbee Coordinator, tasmota) have been missing someevents (been installed about 6 month with no issue)
both my wife and i have noticed that we walk into a room, hit the button to turn on a light and nothing happens, we press it again and it works no poblem, pres it a few more times and still no issue. then (probably the amount of time elaped) it misses it again and we repeat the same results as above.
Home Assistant 2022.2.9, battery is at 80% on battery powered switch. i have also just noticed that its saying its a temperature device now and has a temp of 24oC (not correct as room is 19.6oC. i have tried to reconfig device but it instantly says "Device reconfiguration complete". any advise on here to go next with debug. thanks in advance. (happy to be told what room to move to if this is wrong room)

fair mountain
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Home Assistant 2022.2.9, battery is at 80% on battery powered switch. i have also just noticed that its saying its a temperature device now and has a temp of 24oC (not correct as room is 19.6oC.
Red herring. Those battery powered switches don't really report valid metrics.

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Mine report 26C in the house,a nd it's like 20C 🙂

jolly narwhal
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My aqara door sensor is solid

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Sitting outside on my mailbox

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Reporting down to -15c so far this winter

keen jetty
sour shadow
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Yeah, the devices with internal temperature sensors are only reporting their internal temperature, which is going to be hotter than the room

keen jetty
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or 2 seperate devices we noticed it on so far

fair mountain
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both my wife and i have noticed that we walk into a room, hit the button to turn on a light and nothing happens, we press it again and it works no poblem, pres it a few more times and still no issue. then (probably the amount of time elaped) it misses it again and we repeat the same results as above.

I also have this problem.

keen jetty
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at least im not the only one

jolly narwhal
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I've never had problems with any aqara buttons

fair mountain
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I had zero button press drops with deconz + phoscon, but I am just migrating to ZHA w/ a Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 and now I am having problems.

jolly narwhal
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Running zigbee2mqtt and a proper mesh in place

sour shadow
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My button has worked first time every time. The "wall switch" is more hit and miss

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Xiaomi WXKG06LM

keen jetty
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to be clear, im talking about 2 wall switches sorry

jolly narwhal
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I have 9 aqara and tradfri switches around the house, 11 if you count the symfonisk rotary ones

fair mountain
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yes those are the ones I am using @sour shadow , it was fine with phoscon not so great with ZHA

fair mountain
keen jetty
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mine are the aqua d1

jolly narwhal
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You'd be surprised at how many people come in here with a Conbee and 3 end devices on either side of the House

fair mountain
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lol

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I am at ~113 devices, and will be adding another 9 when my Leviton zigbee switches show up (=

jolly narwhal
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I have around 120 these days, still a few in boxes

keen jetty
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my switch has RSSI: -63 to the controller and my controller -30 to router so not out of range

jolly narwhal
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-63 is pretty low

sour shadow
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I have devices with an LQI down around 10 that work reliably

keen jetty
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from what i read its not
-50 dBm Excellent, -60 dBm Very good, -70 dBm Good

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and i would imagin if this new issue was anything to do with signal it would be more of an issue than the odd time on first event

jolly narwhal
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I would guess rssi for ZigBee is the same as rssi for wifi

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I might be wrong

keen jetty
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will have to see how it goes and if others who can do much better debugging than myself get and see the issue

jolly narwhal
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Anything below 65 we would call useless and employ more access points for wifi at least

keen jetty
sterile sleet
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rf has a bit more science to it, it's not always reporting correctly and does not always reflect reality

jolly narwhal
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I can only go from personal experience working with wifi deployments for 20+ years

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On small and large scale sites

keen jetty
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i fully accept your experience and dont want to sound like i am questioning it, but i wonder why are you thinking the issue may be signal when for the last 6 month its been fine, and still fine 99% of the time and only issue on first press every now and then.
to me seems very funny the issue started the same day the system upgraded to 2022.2.8 (could well be a coincidence, also node red upgraded the day before to 11.0.2)
just fyi the controller and the switch are on the other side of the hall from each other with a hollow wooden door in between (about 2.5 meters apart) in checking this detail I note that the switch is in fact connected to another controller (SA-003-Zigbee) directly below but this is via floor to garage (is there a way to test by forcing it onto the ZigBee hub

sterile sleet
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do you have lots of snow now? far fetched but water also resonates with 2.4ghz

keen jetty
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none at all, and why would it work every other time, to me its more like deep sleep wake up if i didnt know better, but the software on switch has not been updated nore the hub

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thanks for your thoguhts anyway guys, at least im not the only one started getting this issue, if i have it and pfak also said he has it im sure others will 🙏

tardy tapir
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Hi! Thinking of migrating from deConz. Using Conbee 2 stick. What is recommended now?

jolly narwhal
obsidian sandalBOT
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@tardy tapir Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

Command '.pickyourstick' was invoked by: atxbyea
tardy tapir
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Thank you 🙂

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so, if I already have the stick I want - what software should I use? ZHA?

lilac wharf
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Whatever you want

tardy tapir
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so, no reason to switch from deCONZ to ZHA? I have two conbee 2 sticks so I can migrate slowly

lilac wharf
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I don't have any experience with deconz so I can't speak to that

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I've read development with deconz moves at a glacial pace though

uneven ruin
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typical recommendation around here is ZHA or zigbee2mqtt

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they seem the best supported and support the most devices

jolly python
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Seems there are some things zha isnt able too, that deconz and zigbee2mqtt is

sterile sleet
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there are some edge cases yes

tardy tapir
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thank you very much!

jolly python
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Green energy module, power on behavior, properly treatmeng of power plugs with energy measurement

tardy tapir
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it is a bit weird. i popped in my second conbee2 stick and it discovered a lot of devices connected to the old conbee2 stick on deConz. is this expected? can the devices report to more than one stick?

vale surge
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Does anyone know how to stop an Ikea Switch outlet from being a repeater/router? I have a few that get moved around the house randomly (every week or so) and there are sensors that attach themselves to the switches, when the switches get moved the sensors lose connectivity. Alternately, is there a way I can force a route for the sensors? Im using Z2M

sterile sleet
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no

twilit narwhal
tardy tapir
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thank you

twilit narwhal
# vale surge Does anyone know how to stop an Ikea Switch outlet from being a repeater/router?...

if a router is disconnected/moved the end devices should find an alternate route by themselves. That's how Zigbee is supposed to work. It's known that some Xiaomi devices won't switch routers on their own though as they don't respect the zigbee standards but for others that should be seemless. Have you tried to wait a few hours to see if the devices rejoin the network on an alternate route?

tardy tapir
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Thank you!

wind marlin
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Hey everyone,

I am building a new house in australia and want as many smart home automation options as possible.

Would Zigbee provide a large portion of products that I can control directly through a Home-Assistant attached to my wall in the kitchen living room? The main dashboard type thing.

tacit salmon
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Hey guys - Recently started my migration from the Xiaomi gateway to a CC2531 using zigbee2mqtt. So far, I like it and it has been quite stable.
I'm having a hard time removing the devices from the Xiaomi gateway integration after migrating them to z2mqtt. I tried calling the Xiaomi remove device service from home assistant - call the service, hear the chinese prompt, but the device fails to delete. I've tried pressing/holding the button on the device after calling the service too, but it doesn't seem to work in removing it. I searched for quite some time and can't find a straightforward method to remove these entities from the Xiaomi integration individually, so I have just been disabling them for now. Any help is appreciated!

jolly python
jolly narwhal
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Probably the worst currently

balmy fossil
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what is the best way of swapping zigbee sticks when running zigbee2mqtt? Will it be possible to run two instances of zigbee2mqtt (one for each stick) and slowly migrating nodes from one to the another?

sour shadow
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Sure you can

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It's even covered in their docs

half schooner
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I have an Aqara/ Opple 4 button switch. However some of the buttons trigger other Zigbee devices. Like switches and lights. How can I trace what is happening?

sour shadow
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That sounds like a binding - which Zigbee integration do you use?

half schooner
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Deconz

half schooner
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Can I reset it somehow. Or check in Deconz what is wrong?

sour shadow
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I know nothing about deCONZ - their Discord should know more

midnight robin
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i just found this visualization map of the zigbee network in ZHA, any idea what to colours and numbers represent?

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and, for some reason, the devices are mostly connected to my E27 light bulb instead of my zigbee coordinator, which i thought would make a stronger signal.

Granted, I did the pairing when my dongle was in the storeroom, before I moved it out with a 3m USB extension wire.

Do I have to delete and repair them or something

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or is it actually okat?

sour shadow
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Do they work?

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If they work, don't worry about how they're connected

midnight robin
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yeah they do. just wondering if it affects latency or anything

sour shadow
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I mean, it will, but a single hop is unlikely to be a thing you can measure

midnight robin
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i see. if things work and I do have a spare dongle to use as a repeater/router, does the zigbee network automatically adjust itself?

sour shadow
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The answer is complicated, since it's up to the manufacturer of each device

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Generally speaking devices that are routers will be likely to re-route as they need, and most Zigbee 3.0 stuff seems to. Xiaomi are one brand known for their end devices being sticky (won't change parent).

midnight robin
sour shadow
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For the LQI?

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0 is really bad, 255 is usually really good (or may mean that the system has no idea)

midnight robin
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not sure what LQI means. but the mesh network inside ZHA, under visualization

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it doesn't say LQI or anything. would be nice if they labelled, haha

sour shadow
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No idea, don't have ZHA, but the numbers are generally either LQI (a positive value between 0 and 255) or RSSI (a negative value)

midnight robin
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those refers to zigbee signal strength?

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there's also something like, 60/98, whatever that means

sour shadow
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Those are likely LQI values then

midnight robin
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ahh okay

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higher better? oo

sour shadow
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0 is really bad, 255 is usually really good (or may mean that the system has no idea)

midnight robin
crimson drum
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hey guys, I've got a lot of ikea tradfri buttons, switches, etc. Like E1743. Is it worth updating them OTA? Any benefits?

jolly narwhal
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stability, battery consumption, features, zigbee 3.0

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updates aren't released just for fun

crimson drum
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I get that, but like my batteries are good for a year, I won't waste 20% for an OTA to get 3% better battery life for example

balmy fossil
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Ive got quite a lot of Zigbee devices, so if possible i would like to avoid "switch off zigbee, change the dongle, re-pair all the devices, switch back on" approach

sour shadow
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If you're using the Z2M add-on you'd need both standard and dev

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I've migrated from CC2531 to CC2652 simply by shutting down Z2M, swapping sticks, updating the path, and then starting Z2M

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Copying the IEEE address is good to do, but depending on your devices you may not have to

night slate
sour shadow
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Why not just use Z2M's native UI?

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It's had one since ... 1.15?

night slate
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I think it wasnt available when i set this up like 2 years ago

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Ill have a look at that

sour shadow
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That has a nice little option when you rename an entity in the native UI

tacit salmon
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@jolly python appreciated, but it was sitting in a drawer and seems to be working just fine for me right now. I see the new ones in the bot suggestion, so will definitely start looking for a new one if this one takes a dump.

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still can't figure out a "clean" way to remove the devices from a xiaomi gateway after migrating them to z2mqtt. The mi home app doesn't work anymore, presumably because I have had it firewalled off for so long lol

fair mountain
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So, I've been looking more into the ZHA startup timing issue. I think the real kicker is the init of the devices takes place in the startup phase of the integration, so ZHA doesn't report itself as finished startup (and thus can't use the cache) while it iterates over all mains powered devices.

midnight robin
inner bay
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is z2m broken with latest HA core and OS ?

fair mountain
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and ZHA integration isnt available until every device is initialised or times out

sour shadow
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Yup, working fine

inner bay
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i had to restart z2m manually 3 times ....trying a restart of HAagain

sour shadow
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I just started HA and everything was working

inner bay
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maybe it takes a while for everything to settle after the update

sour shadow
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Once MQTT has fully started it should just work

fair mountain
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Does z2m stop working until all devices are initialized at startup? I am loking at alternatives to ZHA.

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Because, while I can fix ZHA by forking it, I doubt the changes will be upstreamed (based on previous conversations with someone who seems like one of the maintainers.)

sour shadow
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Not as far as I can tell, but startup is fast

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Also, being separate from HA means that HA restarts don't impact it at all

fair mountain
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Nice.

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The only issue being that nobody has written a migration tool from ZHA to z2m, so I'd have to re-pair everything.. or write a migration tool?

inner bay
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guess it was isolated to the startup after updating HA. sorry for stirring things up

molten linden
midnight robin
dire field
#

Hi Trying to flash a Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus. Using the Texas SmartRF Flash Programmer 2, pressing the bootloader button (closest to the USB ) before pluging in and relaeasing a while after) I get the error ">Connecting over serial bootloader failed: No response from device. Device may not be in bootloader mode. Reset device and try again.
If problem persists, check connection and baud rate.

Failed to create device object." When using Python method with cc2538-bsl.py I get an error "ERROR: Timeout waiting for ACK/NACK after 'Synch (0x55 0x55)'" Have I bricked the Sonoff dongle? I can't get back into bootloader

fair mountain
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(But the issue isn't limited to Conbee II)

night slate
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450LM seems a bit too good to be true

sour shadow
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WiFi Smart LED

night slate
sour shadow
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Not Zigbee

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(look at the channel you're in)

night slate
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Oh sorry i was looking at the same product in zigbee version a moment ago, didnt realize this one is wifi

sour shadow
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Hence why I quoted from the description...

fair mountain
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Hue (=

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I bought some Hue Calla over the weekend.

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my original Hue bulbs from 2013 are still going strong

opaque pike
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Anyone that can help with setting hue_power_on_behavior with z2m? im just getting a "Invalid message 'null', skipping..." so i guess my syntax is incorrect?

sour shadow
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Is it not supported in Z2M's UI?

opaque pike
sour shadow
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You can, but generally it's supported in the UI

opaque pike
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where in the UI would i find this? Under Exposes on the device?

tropic depot
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we'll definitely take a look

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my previous comments were around the fact that this isn't consistent as I have never experienced it myself

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if the issue is due to mains devices being physically powered off I am not too sure what we can do other than adding a setting to skip getting state at startup (which could result in the UI not matching the physical state of the devices)

jolly python
opaque pike
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I cant find it anywhere in the Z2M addon

jolly python
opaque pike
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yeah thats what im trying but failing at

vestal atlas
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can you post the topic and payload?

opaque pike
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topic: zigbee2mqtt/Hue white E27 LED bulb filament giant globe 1/set + payload: hue_power_on_behavior=on

jolly python
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You have to use the ieee adress

opaque pike
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This device allows you to set the power-on behavior. Note that this requires at least November/December '18 firmware update of the device. Send a MQTT command to zigbee2mqtt/FRIENDLY_NAME/set with the following payload.

jolly python
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Payload: {
"hue_power_on_behavior": "on",
}

opaque pike
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Im using the Developer Tools

jolly python
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You have to go to devices -> mosquito -> configure

opaque pike
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debug Received MQTT message on 'zigbee2mqtt/Hue white E27 LED bulb filament giant globe 1/set' with data 'Payload: { "hue_power_on_behavior": "on", }'
error Invalid message 'null', skipping...

jolly python
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You have to use the ieee adress as the friendly name as far as i know

opaque pike
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how do i find that?

hybrid crown
jolly python
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In zigbee2mqtt ui

opaque pike
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ah nvm

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its not under the device itself its only in the devices overview

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maybe that should be a feature request

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oh it is

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fucks sake im blind

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but still it gives me the same error

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debug Received MQTT message on 'zigbee2mqtt/0x001788010b08fe87/set' with data 'Payload: { "hue_power_on_behavior": "on", }'
error Invalid message 'null', skipping...

hybrid crown
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do you guys have recommendations on zigbee lightbulbs in the states? multi coloured preferred

jolly python
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You do not have written ‚payload‘ into the payload field, right?

opaque pike
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Payload: {
"hue_power_on_behavior": "on",
}

jolly python
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Drop the ,Payload:‘

opaque pike
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debug Received MQTT message on 'zigbee2mqtt/0x001788010b08fe87/set' with data '"hue_power_on_behavior": "on",'
error Invalid message 'null', skipping...

vestal atlas
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You can use friendly name in the topic, but the payload sure has to be valid json. We are getting close now 😅

jolly python
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Drop the „,“ at the end

jolly python
opaque pike
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debug Received MQTT message on 'zigbee2mqtt/0x001788010b08fe87/set' with data '"hue_power_on_behavior": "on"'
error Invalid message 'null', skipping...

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sorry kids are screaming and im afraid my wife might kill them so i have to go attend that situation

jolly python
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You have dropped the {} they have to stay

vestal atlas
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service: mqtt.publish
data:
topic: 'zigbee2mqtt/0x001788010b08fe87/set'
payload: '{"hue_power_on_behavior":"on"}'

jolly python
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io is tired of our shit 😅

fair mountain
vestal atlas
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trial and error is fun and games, but fun time is over 😅

tropic depot
fair mountain
opaque pike
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alright homocide averted

opaque pike
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fucks sake just setting power on behavior and then publishing the brightness wont work

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is the payload template option from the developer tools broken? im trying to send

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{
"hue_power_on_behavior": "on", // default, on, off, recover
"hue_power_on_brightness": 125, // same values as brightness
"hue_power_on_color_temperature": 280, // same values as color_temp
"hue_power_on_color": "#0000FF" // color in hex notation, e.g. #0000FF = blue
}

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but it says

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debug Received MQTT message on 'zigbee2mqtt/0x001788010b08fe87/set' with data ''
error Invalid message 'null', skipping...

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like there is no topic sent

forest arrow
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Greetings ll

hidden pebble
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how do i decide what to use between ZHA Zigbee2mqtt or deconz?

forest arrow
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all

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I have a Sonoff Zibgee controller that I use and I see it in HA

sour shadow
forest arrow
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and I a couple of devices showing as eWelink DS01s that show they have no entities but I cannot figure out where to remove them from

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any assistance you can provide?

opaque pike
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also avoid ZHA

sour shadow
# forest arrow all

After that, it's a question of ... do you want it integrated in HA, or separate from HA.

opaque pike
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way too much stuff that isnt supported

sour shadow
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Both ZHA and Z2M are solid choices, some people just have issues with either

opaque pike
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Z2M is imo more difficult but has better device support

sour shadow
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ZHA actually supports more devices than Z2M

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(I run Z2M)

opaque pike
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i had too many devices that wasnt supported in ZHA

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like the Aqara temperature sensors

hidden pebble
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ok great so im a noob, i think i might have more luck with ZHA

sour shadow
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You can always switch

opaque pike
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if u havnt bought any devices yet just go with ZHA and buy devices that are supported

forest arrow
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I am just not sure what the devices are as I changed all my sensors to Aqara door and window sensors.

hidden pebble
forest arrow
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months ago

opaque pike
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device support is key imo

forest arrow
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and everything that should be seen is seen

opaque pike
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check if they are supported by ZHA

molten linden
opaque pike
forest arrow
hidden pebble
opaque pike
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ah okay

limpid cloud
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@opaque pike All my Aqara Temp sensors are supported by ZHA. All mainstream devices are.

opaque pike
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i started out in zha where some devices didnt work. then moved to deconz where other devices didnt work and ended up in z2m where everything works but i dont know how to make them work

fair mountain
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(in ZHA)

opaque pike
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maybe it was in deconz they didnt work

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i dont remember anymore

fair mountain
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they work in deconz, @opaque pike. I just finished migrating them from my two Raspbee II sticks.

opaque pike
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maybe it was zha back then? its been a few months

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I have Hue Lights (about 50) Aqara Temp sensors (8) and EnOcean switches (4) and Danfoss thermostats (6) and only in Z2M are they all working

fair mountain
forest arrow
hidden pebble
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So i have homeassistant up and running again on Unraid in docker. i plugged my sonoff zigbee dongle plus into the server. i read that i should automatically appear in HA, but i dont see anything... now what? is there a guide i can use to help me?

fair mountain
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I have Hue Lights (about 50) Aqara Temp sensors (8) and EnOcean switches (4) and Danfoss thermostats (6) and only in Z2M are they all working

What is not working?

fair mountain
opaque pike
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in ZHA something was working, in deconz something else wasnt working

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i honestly dont remember anymore

vestal atlas
opaque pike
hidden pebble
fair mountain
fair mountain
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The only thing not supported by ZHA so far I've encountered are green power devices (i.e. Hue tap.)

vestal atlas
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idk.. Have you seen the sensors ever connect via a hue light? I spent a lot of time trying to pair aqara water leak sensors, the when I enabled pairing via a ikea outlet they seem ti pair immediately 🤷‍♂️

opaque pike
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mine connects via hue lights

fair mountain
vestal atlas
fair mountain
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they're garbage. they stick to a particular device. i have tons of them. they're so damn cheap, though.

mellow geode
# opaque pike like the Aqara temperature sensors

Not sure if this was already answered, but ZHA supports the old and new types of Aqara temperature sensors just fine.
Z2M needs to explicitly support all devices, while ZHA only needs to add "quirks" for devices that don't behave according to spec. (Both are great and have their pros and cons)

But that's the reason why sites like https://zigbee.blakadder.com/ sometimes say many things aren't supported by ZHA. It's possibly that devices are already supported without any kind of special handling.

hidden pebble
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what are the most cost effective zigbee repeater devices?

molten linden
#

You linked Home Depot earlier so assume you are in the US I like the Sengled plugs. Or my own dedicated routers/repeaters 😂

hidden pebble
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what are your own repeaters?

analog isle
#

I have hue, tradfri, and sonoff motion sensors running zha on a raspberry pi with conbee dongle. I'm brand new to HA. The sensors seem to be going unavailable at various times through the day and my automations to toggle light switches arent' working. Anyone have any ideas to get started troubleshooting? I'm not even sure how to setup logger to see what's happening.

molten linden
daring zenith
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My aqara d1 is connected to homeassistant and cannot automatically recognize the button state

我的aqara d1 接入到homeassistant 无法自动化识别到按钮状态

hidden pebble
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is there a way to diagnose if i need more repeaters, my server is on another floor and some of my lights arent working as expected. Is it a range issue or something else?

tacit salmon
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I'm sure tube is biased, but quick opinion on the recommended Z2M controller sticks - which one do you like best?

daring zenith
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Excuse me, how to use zigbee2mqtt aqara D1 can't recognize the automatic button?

molten linden
fair mountain
hidden pebble
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is there somewhere i can see signal strength for each device?

molten linden
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On a recent ha version you can enable the lqi and rssi entities they are diagnostic and not enabled by default

ripe hazel
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is there a limit to how many devices you should try to join at once?

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for zha

fair mountain
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@ripe hazel that would be a limit of your coordinator

ripe hazel
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i have a CC2652 and i have 5 lights

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it fails

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to join 2 of the 5 lights in the same room and coordination is in same area

molten linden
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try doing them 1 after the other not all at once.

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I've done up to about 8 devices within the 60 seconds joins are open

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you can also user the service zha.permit or something to specify a longer joining time. the max is like 250 or 300 I can't remember.

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(seconds)

fair mountain
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gah

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I bought a Hue outdoor kit. The bulb is a different brightness at the highest kelvin vs. the other 4 extensions that I purchased.

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I hope Amazon takes this return. Ridiculous.

ripe hazel
dire field
harsh zenith
tacit salmon
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@molten linden Thanks! - I meant biased in a good way, of course!😀

vestal atlas
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@molten linden what kinda if ping time do you get to your poe coordinator? Thinking of repurposing old pi1's as socat coordinators and wondering what's ok latency for a znp..

drifting sparrow
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Is it enough to just pop in a USB2 ZigBee transmitter?

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And what's more reliable? I presume the one with lower frequency? My smart doorbell that has both wifi and some 440MHz radio loses connection to wifi all the time but has good range on the lower frequency radio.

limpid cloud
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@hidden pebble Ikea Tradfri dedicated router devices (look like phone chargers), Ikea Tradfri power sockets, Sonoff 3 plus USB dongles with Koenkk firmware, if younwant external antennas

opaque pike
night slate
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Hi, any ideas how to unpair a set of Hue lights from a conventional zigbee network to add them to a real Hue bridge please?

jolly python
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hold on and off button of a hue dimmer switch for over ten seconds in close vicinity to the hue bulb to reset

night slate
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Don't have a hue dimmer switch unfortunately. Only two lights

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Can i send some reset command over zigbee or something?

daring zenith
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hi

jolly python
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Hi

daring zenith
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Aqara Smart Wireless D1 not working in homeassistant

jolly python
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well you have to be a bit more precise to get help

brazen carbon
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Hi everyone,
does anyone of you have experience with the Phoscon FLS-CT lp via ZHA in Homeassistant? I am planning to install a LED band in the kitchen and use in my smart home so far only ZHA and do not necessarily want to switch to another protocol. According to the Zigbee Device Compatibility Repository, the Phoscon FLS-CT is not strictly compatible with ZHA. If one also has good experience with another LED strip controller please also contact me.

jolly python
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gledopto maybe?

gusty pendant
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I'm using the ZHA integration. If I have a problem with a specific device (power metering always showing 0.0 for a specific Tuya plug), do I report this as a Home Assistant issue or a zigpy issue?

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Actually, energy metering. Power metering shows some realistic values, but energy stays at 0.0 all the time.

jolly python
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i think it's a known issue

gusty pendant
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Huh. I've just looked again, and now it has jumped from 0.0 to 2.5 kWh. That's the consumption of the last ~3 days.

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May be related to the fact that I rebooted my HA machine an hour ago. So maybe it's only updated on reboot?

gusty pendant
jolly python
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which one do you have

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"Yes, if that’s the case. We currently only support 1 sensor per cluster. This is currently a limitation in ZHA." dunno if this limitation is still in place

gusty pendant
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@jolly python Model "TS011F", manufacturer "_TZ3000_w0qqde0g"

jolly python
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would assume that it works in zigbee2mqtt, so probably a home assistant problem

gusty pendant
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Thanks. I'll try to reproduce whatever has caused it to update once and then file a bug.

tropic depot
fair mountain
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Does ZHA receive an event when a device is powered back on and available on the network?

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(I think not ..)

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I have a use case where I want to unbind a zigbee switch from itself, so that the load attached to it stays on (Detached relay), but if the zigbee switch loses power, it defaults to off, so I need to attach the switch to itself, and power on the load again.

fair mountain
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Or, is there a way to see if a Zigbee device can be communicated with?

twilit narwhal
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Zigbee devices can be dormant for long periods of time, specially end devices. So the protocol is not suited for keep-alive. You can use availability feature in Z2M on mains-powered devices but I don’t know if it’s reliable enough to automate upon.

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That being said if what you want is that switch to always be on detached relay and on, you can automate every x minutes a check of its status and an update if needed.

fair mountain
fair mountain
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yep. I can use read_attr. Fail after 1 try. If success is false, then I can force the relay on and retry

narrow current
# fair mountain (I think not ..)

Any Zigbee device should send "device announcement" when it power up and rejoin your Zigbee network. This is a ZDO message. Its reliability may not be perfect. I am not sure ZHA framework will pass this message to the specific device handler for HA to consume.

tropic depot
tropic depot
narrow current
# tropic depot if this is for battery powered devices you may eat the batteries by doing this

the ZDO device announcement is typically single broadcast message for any zigbee device. This is not a message that is sent on regular interval. The power usage is negligible compared to power consumption needed for the re-joining process. If you use stacks from nordic, z-stack and other major zigbee provider, the stack will automatically send the announcement for you upon joining a network.

tropic depot
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they also get sent when devices rejoin the network

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so in a power cut scenario as mentioned above... I would expect a ZDO announcement when the device is powered on and joins the network again

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they also get sent for address conflicts

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and for several other scenarios

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as an example

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note the "or rejoins" parts of the bulleted items in that answer from SI

tropic depot
narrow current
# tropic depot they also get sent when devices rejoin the network

yes. it is correct. In the case of re-joining, prior to sending the device announcement, "re-joining process" is already significantly much more expensive compared to a single device announcement message. If you buy devices that built upon stacks like syslab, ti and nordic, most likely, you will get the device announcement when a device is power up and rejoin its network.

fair mountain