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sour shadow
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Add more routers, let it handle it

crude otter
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i just added one to see what happens

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how long does it take? and does it find/mesh on its own

sour shadow
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Well, router devices will pick parents and routes as they see fit

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End devices may never change parent, and will only have one

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Also, nothing changes instantly

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It may take 24 hours, or more, before you see any change - or it may take minutes

crude otter
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so i should just add a bunch of routers to make it more robust?

sour shadow
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I'm guessing that ZHA uses circles for end devices, and ovals for routers?

crude otter
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and perhaps remove/re-add the end devices?

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i believe so, yes

sour shadow
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If so you have a whole two routers, compared to the many that Draxter has

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Clearly you're not going to get much of a mesh

crude otter
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well, its a catch-22 thing

sour shadow
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If you want a mesh you need routers

crude otter
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i dont want to buy a bunch of routers unless zigbee works out to be a good fit

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but unless i buy a bunch of routers, it wont be good..

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lol

sour shadow
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Yup, so you get to decide

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Do you want it to fail?

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If so, don't buy any routers

crude otter
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i guess the idea is, the network only becomes stronger with more routers

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im used to wifi based stuff, and i have excellent wifi across the entire house

sour shadow
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Mostly, yes, though...

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If you add 20 routers in one room, it'll achieve little more than adding a couple in there (probably), and nothing much elsewhere

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If you spread them around so that the whole house has a strong coverage you'll be in a good position

crude otter
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im thinking 1 router per bedroom

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the bedrooms are around the outside of the house

sour shadow
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this is mine - ignore the things that claim not to be connected, that's normal for end devices

unknown.png
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My routers are scattered around, but also placed where my experience tells me they'll provide good coverage

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One, for instance, is largely central in the upstairs hall

crude otter
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anything you recommend for a router device?

sour shadow
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Depends ... where are you going to put it?

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Sockets (and lights) make good ones, usually

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Some of mine are dedicated routers (USB sticks with router firmware) because of where I wanted them

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neat pulsar
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thinking of a way to choose between speed 1 and speed 2 with my vent (and being pretty bad at electricity logic), could this work with 2 relays ?

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I draw a quick diagram to explain myself but I cant seem to find how to upload a pic to the chat

gentle flint
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Ah, this is Tuya. Tuya is a hot mess. Some tuya devices want to see the time being offered when requested and refuse to work otherwise. You also need to know what exact Data point IDs and types this particular re-branded device uses.

fiery wasp
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Posted this in #integrations-archived but told here might be better. Looks like I mightn't be alone with Tuya issues 🙂

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Hi, I'm having some weird issues with some Tuya switches (TS0041) in ZHA and not sure how to debug if it's a software or hardware issue. They've been working fine for a while but one by one they've become unavailable and the hardware flashes it's LED constantly like it's in pairing mode.
The logs show the devices rejoining the zigbee network repeatedly, and at some point that stops where the time matches the "last seen" time of the device.
I tried reconfiguring in ZHA, deleting and repairing the device, but it doesn't seem to respond D:
Lots of this:
2021-11-12 04:31:52 INFO (MainThread) [zigpy_deconz.zigbee.application] New device joined: 0x6be9, 5c:02:72:ff:fe:0a:69:50
2021-11-12 04:31:52 INFO (MainThread) [zigpy.application] Device 0x6be9 (5c:02:72:ff:fe:0a:69:50) joined the network
2021-11-12 04:31:53 INFO (MainThread) [zigpy_deconz.zigbee.application] New device joined: 0x6be9, 5c:02:72:ff:fe:0a:69:50
2021-11-12 04:31:53 INFO (MainThread) [zigpy.application] Device 0x6be9 (5c:02:72:ff:fe:0a:69:50) joined the network
2021-11-12 04:31:53 INFO (MainThread) [zigpy_deconz.zigbee.application] New device joined: 0x6be9, 5c:02:72:ff:fe:0a:69:50
2021-11-12 04:31:53 INFO (MainThread) [zigpy.application] Device 0x6be9 (5c:02:72:ff:fe:0a:69:50) joined the network

Then an unavailable and constantly flashing device.
Any ideas on what the issue could be?

dawn sable
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Anyone have a guide on troubleshooting devices that seem to keep falling off the network when using ZHA? I have two specific Sengled E11-N1EA bulbs that just will not stay connected. They are in the same room as a few other Sylvania bulbs that I have zero issues with and are less then 10ft away from a dedicated router (using an extra zzh!).

spice shoal
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Is it probable that lights connected to a hue bridge and lights connected to a zha instance are colliding and causing problems for each other? 2 separate networks in the same physical vicinity

dawn sable
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No Hue bridge (or other Zigbee devices that aren't a part of this netwrok). These are the only two E11-N1EA's I have, so I suspect it's some device specific quirk or maybe even a firmware bug that is causing issues.

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I'm pretty sure I installed the latest firmware I could find for these already... Sengled doesn't really provide public links for download of the firmware, so it's up to someone MITM'ing their app to grab the download links.

spice shoal
dawn sable
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sorry 😦

sterile sleet
dawn sable
spice shoal
sterile sleet
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yes in the app

spice shoal
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Lemme look real quick then and see

sterile sleet
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bridge settings, bottom in settings

spice shoal
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15, no to see if I can figure out what channel zha is using

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*now

dawn sable
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ZHA defaults to 15 I believe

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unless you explicitly change it

spice shoal
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Nope, for sure didn’t

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But lemme go see if I can confirm

sterile sleet
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shouldn't be that much of an issue though, I run both z2m and hue on 11

spice shoal
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I don’t see the channel in the ui..

sterile sleet
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settings - extended or sth

spice shoal
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maybe it's visible in the logs..

sterile sleet
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z2m?

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ah, zha

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no idea about that

spice shoal
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yeah, doc says it's the default and it seems highly likely to be on that channel

sterile sleet
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its fairly easy to change channel in hue app

spice shoal
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I've got some hue devices that have worked for ages without issue that have started behaving more erratic

sterile sleet
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just keep all your lights turned on

spice shoal
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(since adding a zha controller and devices)

sterile sleet
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no need to re pair

spice shoal
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right, I think I'll try that

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Eventually I think I'll move the hue devices to be controlled by zha directly

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lots of stuff in flux atm, got a new network controller showing up to replace my nortek, and currently have all the zha devices on a test ha instance

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in the interim, I'll try to switch the hue channel though and see if it makes things better

sterile sleet
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I can't, hue gradient is no-go on any other hub than Hue

spice shoal
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ah, tell me more? what do you mean exactly by hue gradient?

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is that a specific bulb of theirs?

sterile sleet
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its a adressable light strip

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you put on the back of your tv

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philips ambilight for any tv essentially

spice shoal
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ah, just that one?

sterile sleet
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yes

spice shoal
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ok cool, I'm good then

sterile sleet
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99% are good 😄

spice shoal
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yeah, wled ftw 😉

sterile sleet
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the gradient is amazing though

spice shoal
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not sure about the hdmi integration though...probably some solution out there

sterile sleet
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i don't really mind keeping the hub for it alone

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hdmi integration?

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i just use their software to control the light

spice shoal
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you don't pump your video feed through the hdmi chip to have it sync with the image on screen?

sterile sleet
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nope

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i have a 120hz tv, the sync box craps out anyways with that

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hue sync is available for pc, you can make a light show with anything connected to your hub

austere patio
spice shoal
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well they appear to be colliding in some shape or form 😦

austere patio
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It would only be an issue if the Hue network is generating a lot of traffic

spice shoal
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I've had the hue for ages and essentially never had any issues with it

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now I've got lights not turning on/off during basic time-based automations

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ie: 2 or 3 times a day and they are regularly getting in a non-desired state

austere patio
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Since you're using ZHA, can you enable debug logging to see why the request to the device failed? It's retried many times.

spice shoal
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on the zha side, I've got a particular set of lights that seem to be worse at receiving commands...I've got a enough devices floating around (in it's network) that it shouldn't be an issue

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I'm controlling the devices with some lutron picos and it's definitely not got the success rate to be a legitimate replacement for dumb lights

austere patio
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Are they densely packed in a fixture? Are they in a ZHA group or just in a light group? The latter sends individual requests to bulbs and tries to make sure they all receive the command.

spice shoal
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(the lutron events are firing without fail, solid connection)

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the room that is the worse, has 2 fixtures, 1 with 2 bulbs (a lamp) and another with 3 (fixture in the ceiling)

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each of those is grouped, so a group of 2 and a group of 3

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my automations are (should be) using the groups

austere patio
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What kind of group? ZHA groups use Zigbee group addressing, which is like a broadcast and may not be as reliable as sending a command to a specific bulb.

inner gorge
spice shoal
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Created in the integration screen under the 'groups' nav item

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are you saying I shouldn't be using group commands? my understanding is those were better to keep traffic down

shrewd pewter
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Hey,
I connected Tuya 4 gang wireless switch to Deconz with Conbee 2.
While I managed to create automations for each of the buttons, and also for long/double press, for some reason the switch has "built in" automations I can't get rid of, so even when I add my automations, it does mine and the default.

The default are turn off/on all lights, and dim up/down (each button does 1 thing)
any ideas how to solve it?

austere patio
spice shoal
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ah interesting

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what's the magical number before deciding to use groups then? 😄

austere patio
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Dunno, I don't use them 😆

spice shoal
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there are ha groups as well right?

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or is that only a UI thing..

austere patio
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Yes, those just group together the lights so that you can turn them all on/off concurrently but without using Zigbee groups

spice shoal
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right, but is that purely a ui thing or is it possible to create an actual entity?

austere patio
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They're combined into a single entity:

The group light platform lets you combine multiple lights into one entity. All child lights of a light group can still be used as usual, but controlling the state of the grouped light will forward the command to each child light.

spice shoal
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so I think I could be getting bitten by a combination of the zigbee groups + adaptive lighting (adaptive is configured to use the groups as well)

spice shoal
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the behavior seems worse when I have adaptive lighting on/enabled

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not sure if it's because it's flooding the network due to the groups, or because it's hijacking the on/off calls and screwing something else up

austere patio
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If it's generating a lot of traffic, that could be the case. Group addressing doesn't have acknowledgements but if the lights report state changes, those serve as implicit acknowledgements.

spice shoal
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yeah, I've got ~25 lights in 7 groups

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all the groups are currently added to adaptive lighting

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and if adaptive lighting is sending commands to all 7 every X minutes

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maybe that's a 'flood'

austere patio
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I don't think the group requests bounce around for more than a few seconds at a time

spice shoal
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but I'm guessing it's broadcasting to all 7 at essentially the same time (they are all in the same adaptive entity)

austere patio
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That might be it

spice shoal
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and it could be 'watching' for changes and triggering traffic in other scenarios as well

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I'm not sure exactly how it works internally

austere patio
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So unless you're seeing MAC_CHANNEL_ACCESS_FAILURE errors and your coordinator is refusing to send packets, try light groups for a few of these entities. Or, create an additional ZHA group with all of these lights.

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So you send only a single group request instead of seven at the same time.

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Devices can be a part of more than one group

spice shoal
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yeah good call

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I'll try that real quick

spice shoal
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yeah, I think these groups may be detrimental to my experience

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putting all adaptive lights in a single group seemed to help a bit but I'm going to add trying using the ha groups for individual control and see if that helps even more

rapid jetty
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Is it possible to run both ZHA and Deconz on the same HA with the same ConbeeII stick? Reason being I have some devices that don't work with Deconz but do work with ZHA.

austere patio
rapid jetty
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How about 2 zigbee controllers on same HA?

austere patio
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That would work. Might be easier to just migrate your existing devices to ZHA though.

rapid jetty
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I'm mostly happy with Deconz but have a couple motion sensors that don't work in Deconz but do work in ZHA.

austere patio
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Or see how difficult it would be to add support for your device to deCONZ

rapid jetty
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I don't know how to add support for devices...

inner gorge
night rain
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Best cheap ZigBee plug socket with energy monitoring?

sour shadow
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Depends on where in the world you live...

night rain
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US plugs

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Sorry for not clarifying

austere patio
inner gorge
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Thanks! pushing the fix

round basin
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Hi all, quick question: I currently have ZHA/zigpy in home assistant configured using a Phoscon Conbee II. What will happen to it if I replace the dongle with a new Sonoff 3.0 dongle? Will it keep the current network (and devices) on the new dongle or will it state the network is gone and create a new one? Is it possible to migrate? thx

hearty night
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I've got a number of zigbee devices setup, some lights and window sensors throughout the house, all the lights are responding on both floors but for some reason all of the window sensors on the second floor are showing as unavailable in HA

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all the ones downstairs are responding

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sour shadow
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☝️ So... which of them?

hearty night
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zha

sour shadow
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I'd be guessing that the second floor connects through a single router, and that router is dead

hearty night
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by router you mean another zigbee device?

sour shadow
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Yes, Zigbee router....

hearty night
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zigbee doesn't reroute if a route goes dead?

sour shadow
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Depends on the device - routers should, end devices may - some brands are known to not do so (Xiaomi for instance)

hearty night
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these are all sengled, lights and sensors

sour shadow
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None of those are routers, so ... hopefully you've got some other devices in there

hearty night
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how can you tell?

sour shadow
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Anything battery powered isn't a router

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Lights normally are, but Sengled are the exception

hearty night
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gotcha, everything is on batteries

sour shadow
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So... you have zero routers?

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That's a problem...

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If your coordinator is placed in the middle of the house, and your house isn't too big, then that may work... until you exceed the maximum number of directly connected devices

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What's your coordinator (Zigbee stick)?

hearty night
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nortek husbzb-1

sour shadow
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Not the worst... sadly I don't know what the limit is for directly connected devices

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Either way - you're past the point of needing to buy some router devices

stone halo
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I feel like my zigbee buttons are a little unresponsive sometimes, i'm using an cc2651 dongle so the capacity should be there, any tips?

hearty night
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any recommendation for a good zigbee light to use as a router?

sour shadow
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Anything other than Sengled...

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As long as you don't turn off the power

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Alternatively, buy some smart plugs, or other mains powered Zigbee devices

hearty night
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how long does a battery powered sensor usually run before a battery replacement? I got these like a month ago and the ones that are responding are showing 40% battery

sour shadow
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Depends on a lot of things, how old the battery was when you bought it, the battery size, the sensor type, signal strength, and more

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With my Xiaomi and Konke devices I expect a couple of years out of coin cell batteries

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Tuya... 6 months maybe

stone halo
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also does anyone use a hue sync setup without hub?

austere patio
night rain
austere patio
# austere patio Not automatically (yet) but you can manually transfer the network settings

Install deCONZ on any computer and start it up with the Conbee plugged in. If you open up the network settings window, copy/paste the settings into this JSON document (https://paste.debian.net/hidden/c7cedfd1/) and do a network restore to the new stick https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy-znp/blob/dev/TOOLS.md#network-backup. Make sure to remove all the colons in addresses and keys: aa:bb:cc should be just aabbcc.

night rain
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Does anyone know of a US plug ZHA compatible plug socket that has energy monitoring? All I've found is sengled

molten linden
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I have several of the Sengled's (newest version) and really like them.

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innr just rolled out a new one with energy monitoring for the US market as well. but you can get 2 sengled for the same price.

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peanut also - but you have to update the FW to get the energy and it's big.

night rain
tropic depot
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I just got 2 of the sengled ones and I have 2 more coming… they work well. I have several updated peanuts as well and those Also work well

round basin
austere patio
uneven ruin
warm totem
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Hello all,

Is there anyone else having problems with the Ikea zigbee ligths? I use zigbee to mqtt but it doesn't seem to work all the time. Sometimes I can't turn the lights off. How can I fix this issue?

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Seems like my Intel Nuc sometimes doesn't get his own USB port. I always need to select it in virtualbox

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Error Publish 'set' 'state' to 'Overloop spot 2' failed: 'Error: Command 0x5c0272fffe5c2200/1 genOnOff.off({}, {"timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":false,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":null,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (no response received)'

mystic tulip
lilac wharf
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the sengled one is good and, unlike their bulbs, they actually act as routers

smoky hornet
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After using zigbee for a couple of weeks. I almost wish some of these wireless sensors were just built into a smart plug.

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Most of the plugs are already kind of wide but it doesn't seem like it would add much more to have a sensors on the end.

blazing dagger
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Anyone with an xfinity keypad know how to "trigger" it? I want it to make a noise when the door opens, to remind people to type in the code

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However using alarm_trigger doesn't seem to do anything

hallow zinc
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Linkind PIR Motion Sensor, Wireless Motion Detector, Zigbee White, for DIY Use with Linkind Home Security System, Automation with Linkind Smart Zigbee LED Lights, LINKIND Hub Required (NOT Included) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Y9MST7Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_R6AXQAZ7NAVX00KT5RDE

Does anyone have this sensor and use it with HA? I recent purchased door sensors from this company and they work fine but wasn’t sure that this motion sensor would work.

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I’ve got the generic zigbee / zwave dongle for a raspberry pi that hasn’t had a problem with any device I’ve tried so far.

lilac wharf
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@blazing dagger depends on what zigbee integration you're using

scarlet bramble
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Beeps every second til I disarm the house when entering.

crude otter
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i just installed another Sonoff ZBMINI and its showing up as a light.. is there a way to change it to a switch?

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(im using ZHA)

crude otter
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im starting to get a bit more of a mesh going on now..

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ill add some more routers in the coming days

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ive got 2 more on hand, 5 more on order for spares

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i assume its "normal" for the battery devices to sometimes show as not connected in that view

tropic depot
crude otter
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ahh i see, i have to add it to configuration.yaml

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i also have a random sensor that keeps being added, and i dont know what it actually is

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its reporting as a eWeLink DS01 (Door Sensor) except i dont know which it is..

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i have all of my door/window sensors already configured

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ok, odd.. so i figured out what it is

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and i dont remember pairing it with ZHA, ever.

tropic depot
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Maybe it snuck in when you paired something else 🤷🏻‍♂️

round basin
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and for network_key and tclk_seed I can see a 0x.... value, so that value should go between double quotes, including 0x ? Is tclk_seed the same of TC Link Key ?

round basin
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Ok @austere patio I gave it a try without "0x", and it seems to be working! Thank you very much for your valuable direction!!! ❤️

hardy notch
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Sigh 2 first IKEA shortcut buttons connected OK to deConz, but the third won't connect. Just shows up in deconz as 0x7C0F, and it does not propagate to Phoscon and HA.

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Any tips?

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Is there a limit on how many ZigBee devices I can have in a network (ConBee II)?

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I currently have 32 ZigBee-devices connected to the network (in addidtion to the ConBee II stick)

austere patio
hardy notch
hardy notch
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Hmmm - I had to reboot the server, and then everything was OK. Happy Hippos.

trail sorrel
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Hello everyone, does anyone have any experience with connecting the tradfri button via hue bridge to home assistant? I cant seem to get it working through the tutorials on the internet.

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sour shadow
trail sorrel
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@obsidian sandal sorry

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I thought this would be better, since I cant get it to connect anywhere

austere patio
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If anyone is interested in migrating from a Conbee/Raspbee to a CC2652 coordinator (or vice versa??), send me a PM. I'm testing out some code to do this.

smoky hornet
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How does the migration work?

austere patio
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Reads the network state from one, writes it to the other

smoky hornet
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So you have them both plugged in at the same time

austere patio
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Not necessarily, one at a time will work too

smoky hornet
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Can it migrate back as well?

austere patio
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If you're migrating to a CC2652, you can take a backup of its current settings before migrating and then restore it. For the Conbee, backup hasn't been implemented yet but the settings are merely copied so it's not modified in any way.

jolly narwhal
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all conbee users should be willing to do this upgrade

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🤕

smoky hornet
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I'd be willing to give it a try again. I have to take off for a bit but tomorrow might work.

austere patio
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It took two USB extension cables for me to get mine running 😅

smoky hornet
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A guy on reddit had the same problem as me where the sonoff 3.0 dongle wouldn't pair. He ended up removing the antenna and taking each device and physically touching the sonoff to pair it and then afterwards he added the antenna and they all worked fine.

austere patio
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🤔

smoky hornet
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Yeah...

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That's what I was thinking

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"Try joining them without the antenna attached. If you can get them close to each other, try to shield em from everything else while joining. It was not pairing for me either until I put the stick and each single zigbee device into a almost closed metal drawer one at a time. Like this joining the network worked on the first try every time."

austere patio
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How is the network supposed to work if the (likely defective) Sonoff stick can't even receive the device's join request?

lilac wharf
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Sounds like nothing more than a very strange coincidence

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Or... a lie 🤣

tacit steppe
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I am in need of some cheap ZigBee repeaters and in my haste grabbed a 4 pack of Sengled bulbs which are end device only apparently. I am looking to get a few repeaters for as cheap as possible to get from my server room in my basement to my home office in my attic. Any suggestions?

inner gorge
tacit steppe
smoky hornet
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Amazon has s31 zb lite for $10 if you're in the u.s.

tacit steppe
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haha, was just linking that to ask

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thank you for the confirmation!!

smoky hornet
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Yeah that's it. I think you have to buy them one at a time to get that price

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But you can place as many orders as you want

tacit steppe
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the 4 pack lists them at $10/unit

smoky hornet
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There you go

tacit steppe
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thanks again, this will be perfect

inland coral
crude otter
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are the ikea tradfri signal repeaters ok?

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ive heard some stories of those little tuya usb ones causing some issues

jolly narwhal
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I use almost exclusively tradfri, so yes

crude otter
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cool, they are $20 AUD

jolly narwhal
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That sounds expensive

crude otter
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welcome to Australia.

jolly narwhal
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I usually paid USD 7-10 per bulb

crude otter
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yeah, the 806lm bulbs are $12 AUD

jolly narwhal
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Mine are set to never go above 75%

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If I remember correctly

crude otter
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but we only have 2 'bulbs' in the house, and they already have some wifi ones in there

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i could replace them with zigbee ones i guess

jolly narwhal
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ZigBee >wifi

crude otter
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it depends

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i have a solid wifi network

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my zigbee network isnt so solid yet

jolly narwhal
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ZigBee will always be better since it meshes and can operate even without a coordinator if needed

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Need to look at why it doesn't show all my devices

jovial aspen
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because zigbee is the work of the devil

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✟

inland coral
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Are wall switches not always working on the first press a signal strength issue? Or could it be dodgy routers?

sour shadow
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What wall switches?

inland coral
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(Wall switches are battery operated end devices)

sour shadow
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Brand?

inland coral
sour shadow
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So, Tuya...

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Yes, fairly normal

inland coral
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Hmm, i have a few of these. In another room it works fine. Should be fine in this room as there are 4 router devices nearby

sour shadow
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The device is likely sleeping, and not sending the message when it wakes

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Not uncommon for battery powered remotes

inland coral
#

Interestingly in the room where it works perfectly i have the automation set to be triggered by the raw zha_event rather than device > first button pressed. Maybe that makes a difference (probably placebo)

sour shadow
#

Well, try it and see - it shouldn't make any difference since it's all the same under the hood

inland coral
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Yeah, that one must have better signal

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@sour shadow Do you have any recommendations for a reliable battery powered wall switch?

sour shadow
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I don't use any, but apparently the latest generation ofXiaomi are better

inland coral
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Ah ok. Thanks

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I wonder if the philips hue ones are good

mighty river
#

Anyone experiencing problems with deconz conbee II after upgrading to core 2021.11.3? It stopped working for me

sour shadow
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If you're using deCONZ then updates to HA Core makes no difference

jolly narwhal
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If you are using zha on the other hand

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If you can with Conbee 💩

sour shadow
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Sure you can, it's just not a good choice 😄

jolly narwhal
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But two bad choices (both coordinator and integration) make a good one right?

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-1 + -1 = 1

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🥳

tropic depot
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Lol

inland coral
#

What’s your recommended coordinator for ZHA?

obsidian sandalBOT
#

Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Command '.pickyourstick' was invoked by: Tinkerer
mellow geode
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Maybe TI/Silabs sticks should be put before deCONZ-based sticks?

sour shadow
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There's links at the bottom of the page you can use

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IMO I'd put ConBee last, EZSP first, and order TI based carefully

mellow geode
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So CC2530/CC2531 first 😆

ivory hound
sour shadow
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I'd really love a decent list/resource that allows you to see how old the chipset is - for TI stuff it's easy enough, but for EZSP not so much

austere patio
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And apparently GitHub explicitly disallows crawlers from indexing wiki pages so the zigpy wiki is effectively useless for anyone trying to find info 😅

mellow geode
reef aurora
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Hello again. I recently purchased a CC2531, only to realize it doesn't support too many devices and generally is worse than its adversaries. I now have Conbee II with zigbee2mqtt configured. Is there any way to use the CC2531 along with with an SBC as a range extender?

austere patio
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You can flash the CC2531 with router firmware so that it doesn't require anything but power to act as a router

reef aurora
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ty for the quick response

jolly narwhal
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Preferably with an external antenna

reef aurora
jolly narwhal
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Then it is good

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I use one to reach my greenhouse

gentle flint
# lilac wharf Sounds like nothing more than a very strange coincidence

That guy could have a strong interference from something else he didn't bother to mention, like an SSD, or some wireless keyboard dongle, and antenna was picking all that noise, drawning the signal from the device. Without antenna, picking the noise and device in very close proximity they finally were able to hear each other.

austere patio
lilac wharf
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And/or cable

gentle flint
# sour shadow I'd really love a decent list/resource that allows you to see how old the chipse...

Because for Silabs, the chipset doesn't matter much. Even the ancient HUSBZB-1 was an ARM 32bit and gets the job done. The difference in SDKs though is significant, but event husbzb 1 could get 6.7.9.0 SDK which isn't that old. And in grand schema of things there were no major updates to ZigBee network between 6.7.0.0 EmberZNet and the latest one. Most changes were focused at the application level, meaning the ezsp protocol has little to none changes related to network functioning

glad tendon
#

hey, is there someone that use zigbee micro module as toggle switch ?

inland coral
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Can you link to the specific hardware?

tulip tartan
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Is there a way to update which USB port my dongle is plugged into in ZHA?

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Just migrated to an SSD and had to change ports. Lost control of everything

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Running dedicated HA OS, not docker

austere patio
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Your radio should have been setup with a /dev/serial/by-id/... symlink so that doesn't happen

tulip tartan
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I sshd in using the ssh web gui plugin and lsusb just lists numbers, not what I was expecting

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The radio was auto detected and I just hit ok, it's a zzh

austere patio
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Do you have more than one serial USB device plugged in?

tulip tartan
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Yes a zwave stick as well

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That one is working

austere patio
mighty river
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is there any smart usb zigbee switch? the equivalent to the sonoff usb but zigbee. ZHA compatible please. thanks in advanced

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or any zigbee switch that works at 5v

raven jewel
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I would love Zigbee ones, though I have to say, my WiFi ones have been rock solid

mighty river
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which ones are you using?

raven jewel
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Sonoff WiFi USB

mighty river
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my wifi network is already too crowded..

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hopefully 2 more devices won't make things too worse ^^

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thanks

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how have you integrated them?

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did you flash them or whatever?

tulip tartan
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Can I uninstall and reinstall the zha integration without losing all my devices?

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My path in .storage/config_entries for the zzh is /dev/serial/by-id/, so maybe changing ports isn't my issue

austere patio
tulip tartan
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Ok. May hold off on that then. Going to swap back to the SD card for the time being. Ran out of weekend time unfortunately

clear breach
#

ZHA: To change the channel for an existing network, radio has to be factory reset
What steps exactly should I do?
My CC2652P has a "reset" button on it, should I press that after adjusting ZHA conf + HA restart?

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Also, while I'm experiencing issues with Danfoss Ally, I noticed that when I tried to re-pair a Sonoff SNZB-02 sensor, the Ally that was silent for a while joined the network again, by itself

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Even though it was already paired and did report its status during the night, though not reliably

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What could explain that?

jolly narwhal
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Do you have a strong mesh with lots of routers?

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And little interference?

clear breach
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With its +6dB antenna

jolly narwhal
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And no mains powered devices?

clear breach
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All the devices are within 5 meters

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No

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Though from what I hear, having the stick in the Pi4's USB3 port with wifi connection enabled could cause some issues

jolly narwhal
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And you live rural with no neighbours with WiFi? (No interferences)

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Yes, it can

clear breach
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Apartment 😄

jolly narwhal
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So

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The worst possible scenarios

clear breach
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Oh, yes

austere patio
#

The first step to forming a good Zigbee network is to move out of your apartment and into the woods

clear breach
#

But this "joined the network" message in the zigbee log could just be the device thinking that it's lost the network and saying hello again?

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After that it responded again to the commands, too

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I'm having a weird issue where the Danfoss Ally doesn't react to commands

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Yet it does send in data reports

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And seeminly responds to pings

austere patio
#

If you're reading the ZHA debug log, the periodic pings every 30s are to make sure the coordinator is still alive. If you want to change the channel, you'll have to either re-flash the firmware to clear NVRAM, or use the command line tool to directly change it by doing a backup, editing the backup JSON, and doing a restore. If you do it the latter way, you can also run a scan to see what Zigbee channels are noisy and see how much having the coordinator plugged straight into a USB3.0 port in a Pi is impacting the Zigbee radio: https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy-znp/blob/dev/TOOLS.md#network-backup (scroll down for the energy scan tool, up to the top for setup instructions)

clear breach
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Can I do that scan directly on the Pi?

austere patio
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That would be the best place to do it, since that's where the stick will be

clear breach
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How would I go about doing that?

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I see some console commands, but how/where do I enter them?

austere patio
#

The link in my earlier comment contains setup instructions for Home Assistant OS at the top

clear breach
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Ah, ok

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Is the energy scan tool endless?

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Ie, runs until I stop it?

austere patio
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Yeah, it'll just keep showing the average of the last five scans

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ZHA default is channel 15

clear breach
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Good/bar?

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bad*

austere patio
#

Doesn't look like you have any serious sources of interference but a USB extension cable wouldn't hurt

jolly narwhal
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Think I have my stuff on 20, need to check

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That said, my zzh is directly connected to my rpi3b+ without extension cord either

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Should probably fix that

short elm
#

im gonna start complementing my system that is mainly zwave with some zigbee aswell now... i got an CC2652RB that i bought a while back, just wanna ask now before i start everything, is the CC2652RB still a good board or is there some newer stuff on the market that i should go with instead? might aswell make sure i got the "best" i can before i start

obsidian sandalBOT
#

Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Command '.pickyourstick' was invoked by: Tinkerer
crimson raft
#

does anyone know any zigbee temp commercially available sensor solutions that I could query whether through bridge or HA rest api?

sour shadow
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Sure, anything that HA supports through ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT

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There's lists of known working hardware in the pinned messages

crimson raft
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oh nice, I read but I was afraid that I'm reading wrong so wanted to double check

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thx!

sour shadow
#

Generally speaking with HA you only have to ask Does HA support X - if HA supports that device then it's just another thing in HA

crimson raft
#

and whatever data HA receives it exposes through rest aswell?

sour shadow
#

Sure

crimson raft
#

that's so sweet..

sour shadow
#

Though if you're using Zigbee2MQTT all that data is in your MQTT broker

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At that point you can cut HA out of the loop

crimson raft
#

right, well onto the list I go then! thx for the help

vestal atlas
jolly narwhal
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Think I'm still on 20210120

uncut cosmos
#

Hi, I've been using HA for a while now, and am getting mixed results when trying to work out my RGB bulbs.
I started with ZHA, with a hacked silvercrest controller. The LIDL/Livarno RGB bulbs did not work, and only displayed some color temperature and intensity. I eventually bought a CC2652, and installed zigbee2MQTT and a MQTT broker (All on synolgy nas btw). Now I was able to send a color signal to my christmas lights, but am still not able to send working color commands to my RGB bulbs. Also, google assistant cannot send the color command to the christmas lights.

My system is based on the Docker HA image on the Synology NAS. (So no supervisor, and no zigbee2mqtt app). Would it make my life easier if I swap to a raspberry pi, and use Supervisor? (I have no clue what it will bring, and if it's worth setting up a new system)

In short: I can't set my Lidl/Livarno/Tuya bulbs in RGB mode, how would I be able to do that?

inland coral
#

Swapping over to supervised HA should not make a difference with controlling your lights.
What does make a difference is that some Zigbee coordinators (usb dongles or hubs) don’t work well with some devices and some integrations (ZHA/Zigbee2MQTT)

sour shadow
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I've got one of their LED strips, works fine with Z2M on a CC2652 and HA. However version numbers of both will matter.

silent path
#

hi i am all new in this home assistant, do anyone now where or know someone who can help me connect with zigbee to danfoss ally thermostat.
I have a Popp ZB shield on a Raspberry pi

sour shadow
#

Are you using ZHA?

uncut cosmos
clear breach
clear breach
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Is LQI >50 <70 too low for reliable communication?

sour shadow
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No

#

LQI is also just a number, different devices calculate it differently

clear breach
#

And is it normal to never see an RSSI value?

sour shadow
#

Depends on the integration you're using too

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Z2M doesn't expose it at all AFAIK

clear breach
#

ZHA + zigpy-znp (CC2652P)

sour shadow
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Not sure about that, but it may not be exposed by all devices

clear breach
#

I just don't get why my Danfoss Ally won't respond most of the time to commands

silent path
#

is it only me there get 502: bad gateway when try to zigbee2mqtt

vestal atlas
austere patio
mellow geode
#

Wasn't 1527 IEEE_addr_rsp responds with corrupt IEEE address a long-standing issue?

austere patio
#

It might be a fix for the NVRAM corruption bug that caused them to be stored that way in the first place

mellow geode
#

That would be nice

azure tinsel
#

Im looking for a small nice looking device that shows temperature and humidity and can control like a thermostat. the only problem is. i want it to work as a seperate device so not connected to a heater but just report the temp to HA. the only zigbee devices i can find are all regular thermostats. Do these things exist as a standalone device?

inland coral
#

So, you want an on/off switch with a thermometer?

sour shadow
#

There's some with a local display in the pinned lists

azure tinsel
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i want a device like thishttps://www.amazon.nl/Xiaomi-elektrische-thermometer-temperatuur-luchtvochtigheid/dp/B083Y1D8WB/ref=asc_df_B083Y1D8WB/?tag=nlshogostdde-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=454824867481&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6176704290688385243&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9064814&hvtargid=pla-1090269309992&psc=1 but with a temp up and down button that only reports these states over zigbee

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basically a normal thermostat but one that dont need to be connected to a heater

inland coral
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You don’t need to connect a thermostat to a heater. You can just have it connected to a power cable

azure tinsel
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If thats the case then i could use any of them. as long as they dont give an error when they dont get communication back

inland coral
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Heaters dont communicate back. All a thermostat is, is a thermometer and a switch that switches the heater on and off 😄

azure tinsel
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well thats not really true our CV even communicates the state back and when an error occurs or when it is on and off. its with the opentherm protocol there is a communication back and forth between thermostat and the heater. in dutch called CV. not sure if thats heater in english

inland coral
#

Thats some advanced stuff right there

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I have dumb heating thats either on or off 😛

azure tinsel
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you could search for opentherm to learn more. basically almost all nefit and remeha heaters in holland use this protocol

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but now i need one that does what you have lol

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preferable zigbee

inland coral
analog lark
#

Pulling my hair out. Novice to MQTT. Switched to a CC2652P adapter and now I have a pile of older Jasco GE Enlighten dimmers that refuse to complete interviewing. I flashed the most recent firmware to the coordinator but no joy. Does anyone have any suggestions?

stable bough
#

Hello! I've connected an ikea tradfri through Zigbee2MQTT, but when i set the lowest temperature it is still yellow and not cold white, how can i get the lamp goes lower on home assistant?

sour shadow
#

What if you control it using Z2M's UI?

stable bough
sour shadow
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Zigbee2MQTT has its own UI

#

If you can get the white you want there, then that tells us the problem is between Z2M and HA

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If you can't, then there's nothing HA can do

stable bough
#

how can i access the z2mqtt interface?

sour shadow
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Enable the frontend and connect to the port?

analog lark
#

@sour shadow Any thoughts at all on my above question?

obsidian sandalBOT
#

@analog lark Generally, don't tag people to ask for help - it comes across as bad manners, you’re demanding somebody answers you. It’s different if you’re thanking somebody, obviously. If you do tag somebody keep it polite and respectful. Remember that everybody is a volunteer, and nobody has to help you, and people may block you.

Similarly, please don’t DM (direct message) people asking for help. It also comes across as demanding, and means that others can’t learn from what you do.

Finally, please keep tagging people in replies to a minimum. That too can become annoying very quickly and should be used only when it's necessary (such as if it's been a long time, or there's multiple conversations going on). When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

Command '~tagging' was invoked by: Tinkerer
analog lark
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10-4.

sour shadow
#

If I was going to answer, I would have...

analog lark
#

My apologies. I wasn't aware of that piece of etiquette.

austere patio
#

Do they join the network at all?

stable bough
#

@sour shadow Invalid config for [frontend]: [port] is an invalid option for [frontend]. Check: frontend->frontend->port. (See /home/homeassistant/.homeassistant/configuration.yaml, line 34).

analog lark
#

I can see them. They get the red X ad say the interview wouldn't complete.

sour shadow
austere patio
#

Not too familiar with Z2M but check out the debug logs, there should be more information as to what exactly failed. Have you tried powering the switches off completely before joining them again?

analog lark
#

But they were working fine prior to changing adapters.

austere patio
#

Check out the debug logs. They should say why Z2M thinks they're unsupported.

stable bough
sour shadow
#

If you're using add-ons then you may have to do other things to make it work

#

I don't use them, don't know

stable bough
#

Ok now it’s working

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The color temp default minimum is 250

#

I tried to put manually 100 inside, but it’s still 250

#

But the thing is, the isn’t still at maximum cold white as I see on ikea shop

#

Any idea?

austere patio
#

Mine don't go lower than ~250 mireds

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And this is sending a raw ZCL command to the bulb. Are you sure you weren't looking at RGB bulbs?

stable bough
#

Yeah I’m sure that not was RGB

sour shadow
#

My Tradfri bulbs go from 250 to 454, and 250 is pretty cold

stable bough
#

Can you send me a photo of your tradfri 250?

sour shadow
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Not right now... maybe tomorrow

mellow geode
#

My TRADFRI lights also go from 250 to 454.
250 is cold (but also a little green-ish?)

stable bough
#

I have one question I have the bulb with the remote if I connect the remote, the bulb disappears from zigbee?

austere patio
#

If you connect the bulb to the remote by bringing them too close together, the remote resets the bulb and they form a separate network. You should instead join the remote to your Zigbee network as an end device.

stable bough
#

It is also possible to connect the remote to zigbee?

austere patio
#

I've only used the old dimmer but if you hold the button for a few seconds, it does the touchlink reset (the thing you don't want). If you press it quickly five times, it searches for a network as a normal end device.

stable bough
#

Anyway I tried with the remote and seems the same white of home assistant but I’m pretty sure that in the shop the white was similar to a white/blue 😅

austere patio
#

It may have been an RGB bulb that they put in by accident. I believe they also are color temperature controllable, in addition to RGB.

stable bough
#

Ok they have the RGB also? Are good also?

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I didn’t see it on shop

austere patio
#

I found them not very bright compared to their color temperature and dimmable bulbs

jolly narwhal
#

Ikea RGB was horrible in my experience

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CT is great though

mellow geode
#

Yeah. I have one of the older RGB lights. Doesn't even accept "color temperature commands"

#

Oh, and the colors are all way off too.

stable bough
#

I have buyed the new one with 1055 lumens

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Also I have a problem now after I set the lamp to the remote controller I want to connect it back to zigbee but when I reset the lamp they blink but doesn’t appear on zigbee or home assistant the permit join is enabled

stable bough
#

Ok solved

#

There is a way to show or set the bulb in Kelvin instead of mired?

sour shadow
#

You can in the service call, but otherwise no

smoky hornet
#

Not sure about which space to ask this in, but can you only have one light group?

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I guess I can use regular groups

austere patio
#

You can have multiple. If you re-order the keys to put name first, it might make more sense:

light:
  - name: Kitchen Lights
    platform: group
    entities:
      - light.kitchen_ceiling_lights
      - light.kitchen_under_cabinet_lights
      - light.kitchen_spot_lights
      - light.pendant_lights
smoky hornet
#

Ah got it. The platform: group is what I was missing.

stiff void
#

Does anybody know why my zigbee devices(ikea switches and lights) are visible (and working) in de deconz add-on but I can't see them in the entity or devices tab in home assistant it self?

I tried restarting the add-on and even a full restart of my raspberry pi but no luck.

tiny timber
#

Hey all, my lock appears to no longer be communicating properly lock.frontdoor: Error with unlock_door: [0xcf0f:1:0x0101]: Message send failure. It still appears in the network map fine however.

#

Anyone got any ideas why this would be? The battery on it has just dipped below 20% for the first time since we've owned it in almost 2 years. Could it be going into some deep sleep mode?

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Additional details: ZHA, Yale YRD-256, Conbee II controller.

austere patio
#

Have you tried changing the battery? Some devices don't communicate as reliably when the battery gets low.

tiny timber
#

Not yet, no. Just wasn't sure if that error message indicated something specific.

austere patio
#

It just means that the Conbee sent a message to the lock and the lock did not respond

tiny timber
#

Cool, definitely sounds like could be a battery issue then. I also currently still run both Hue and ZHA networks. Would it be worth getting rid of Hue and moving it all to ZHA to prevent comms issues?

austere patio
#

I don't think having two networks will cause interference issues that won't be present with one large network, you'll just lose out on the routing and range benefits of having one large network

tiny timber
#

OK, good to know. I don't really have routing issues as I picked up 3 sockets for the Conbee network in a fairly small house.

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While Hue is all routers, being all bulbs (and a few dimmers).

stable bough
#

There’s is a list of zigbee lamp with recovery state?

austere patio
#

Zigbee 3.0 defines power-on behavior attributes so you should be able to control power-on state of switches and lights that are 3.0 certified

crude otter
#

got myself some tradfri bulbs today, and they are connected and working with ZHA... the bulbs came with some remotes though. are they usable also?

clear breach
#

Which remote is it?

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Most likely it should be usable, yes

#

Since it also uses Zigbee to connect to the gateway/coordinator

daring spear
#

Hey, I currently have a philips hue bridge and some lamps and switches. I want to expand my home assistant with even more bulbs, sensors etc but I do not want to limit myself to only philips hue.

So, my question: If I want to buy Aqara door sensor, what do I need to buy in addition to this?
Bonus question: I don't really understand the difference between Conbee ii, Zigbee2mqtt, deConz, ZHA etc.... Can anyone explain it like I am five?

sterile sleet
#

where do you live?

crude otter
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@clear breach some 4 button thing included with the bulbs

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if i put it in pairing mode, ZHA finds it, but has "unknown" for the battery, and it doesnt seem to fire off zha_events

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I see its using a quirk... Quirk: zhaquirks.ikea.fourbtnremote.IkeaTradfriRemote

clear breach
daring spear
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@sterile sleet I live in Sweden

sterile sleet
#

so first off: you need a manufacturer independet „coordinator“

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your coordinator until now is your hue hub

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when you buy a generic zigbee stick it usually can handle all the zigbee devices you throw at it

clear breach
#

Can be both a generic USB stick or a flashable separate device (some are flashable using Tasmota, for example)

sterile sleet
#

but be careful, there are poor choices when deciding on which stick to buy

clear breach
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After which they are also "independent"

crude otter
#

cheap, and seems to work well

sterile sleet
#

anything CC2652 based should be fine

jolly narwhal
#

TI 👍

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Conbee 🤢

crude otter
#

i was impressed by the price of the sonoff one

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it seems to have gone up to $10.99 now.. i paid $9.90

jolly narwhal
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I've bought two sonoff products in my life, they are still in boxes

crude otter
#

this stick doesnt come with ewelink firmware or anything though

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its... odd

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hmm, just plugged in one of these ikea signal repeaters, and things have pretty much instantly routed to it

daring spear
#

thanks, I understand it a bit better now. What do you think would be the easiest setup for me? I have tech knowledge but time is limited so ease of use is kinda important

vestal atlas
#

@crude otter +shipping. And 1 month delivery to the nordics via the cheapest shipping option 😅

crude otter
#

@vestal atlas i paid DHL for.. whatever it cost

daring spear
#

I want to buy aqara or Ikea sensors etc and just have them work within 5 minutes

crude otter
#

still better than other options for me in Australia

jolly narwhal
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With zigbee2mqtt it takes me 15 seconds to unbox and pair a aqara or tradfri 🙅‍♀️

jovial aspen
#

Similar with ZHA

crude otter
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im going to try and pair these 4 button remotes again soon

jovial aspen
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Have never tried tradfri stuff

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Aqara and Sonoff kit is generally pretty reliable

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Though the SNZB-03 motion sensors seem to chew through batteries compared to their Aqara counterparts

crude otter
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thinking where to place this other ikea signal repeater

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@jovial aspen ive yet to replace the batteries in my motion sensors

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(sonoff)

jolly narwhal
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Yeah, I have hacked my aqara sensor for 1s motion, and it still has the same battery 18 months later

jovial aspen
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I’ve replaced 3/4 of mine and they’re only a few months old

jolly narwhal
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I've replaced 2 batteries in the last 3 years

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In 40 or so end devices

crude otter
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hmm, actually.. how is that still working? i removed the old sonoff hub..

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and i havent repaired the motion sensor with ZHA

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hmm, perhaps i did.. zigbee is black magic anyway.

daring spear
#

So Zigbee2mqtt and ZHA are just two different ways of connecting the zigbee controller I ultimately chose to Home Assistant, or?

jolly narwhal
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Yes

crude otter
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ive never touched MQTT

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so i use ZHA

daring spear
#

Cool, thanks. So now I just have to pick a controller that can work with these and that I can buy in Sweden

crude otter
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you'd be able to get IKEA stuff so easily, yeah? 😛

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just pop down to the factory lol

daring spear
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Oh yeah, I can get to IKEA in 4 minutes haha

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#SwedePerks

sterile sleet
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take note of the supported devices, zha and z2mqtt do not support all of them

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a conbee certainly does not work with z2m and also has poor support in zha so stay away from that

vestal atlas
daring spear
sterile sleet
daring spear
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No fiddling around with code just to get the actual stick to work before I add it in HA?

sterile sleet
#

it sure works plug n play with z2m, not sure about zha

daring spear
#

A million thanks for the help all of you!!

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Order has been placed

inland coral
sterile sleet
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did they fix the driver issues?

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anyways, I can only recommend conbee for deconz, thats what it was always intended to work with

inland coral
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Not sure, mine worked fine out of the box. I have a bunch of different devices from aliexpress. I recently updated the firmware on the conbee too, but havent noticed any difference in performance

stable bough
#

Any alternative instead of buying tradfri? I don’t like the cool white I will like to have one more blueish. Also with low consumption

clear breach
#

Huh? Don't like cool white, but would like to have even cooler white?

inland coral
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Haha, well the philips hue lightbulbs are really good, if you can afford them

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If not. Most zigbee bulbs on aliexpress work fine

crude otter
#

i cant for the life of me get this ikea "shortcut button" to work with ZHA

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whenever i add it, i get "Unknown" as the battery percentage.. and no events fired with zha_event

vestal atlas
stiff void
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Does anybody know why my zigbee devices(ikea switches and lights) are visible (and working) in de deconz add-on but I can't see them in the entity or devices tab in home assistant it self?

I tried restarting the add-on and even a full restart of my raspberry pi but no luck.

stable bough
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Yes I don’t like the cool white of ikea tradfri it’s still yellowish

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For my personal opinion ofc

clear breach
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Ah, so it's too warm

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Not cool enough

stable bough
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Yes exactly

clear breach
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What's the temperature, if you happen to know?

stable bough
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I tried osram smart+ they’re really nice but doesn’t have the resume state after goes offline and also they’re Consuming a lot

clear breach
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Low lumens per watt?

stable bough
stable bough
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8.5W for 1055 lumen

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Something like that the tradfri

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And consume around 0.5W in standby mode

clear breach
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Ah right, it only goes to 4000K

stable bough
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Yeah exactly

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For my opinion I really prefer from 5000k or better from 6000k

clear breach
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Yeah, on the contrast, I only use ~3000K bulbs at home

static spear
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the trafdir motion sensors cost only 10€ by ikea

clear breach
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Sure, they look slightly too yellow during the day, but at night it's just right

static spear
stable bough
clear breach
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That's entirely up to You

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But if You do take that route, I also recommend tuning your displays too

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Otherwise every display will look very cold

violet dagger
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forcing yourself to like something.... not really a solution

clear breach
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Color temperature is a relative thing, if everything surrounding is using warm, your eyes/mind will adjust and it will look normal in a bit

stable bough
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Yeah I’m just asking because seems is impossible to find a zigbee lamp that have almost the same consumption of tradfri but have 6000K and support zigbee power state after off

violet dagger
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in my home, bathrooms have 6000k lighting everything else auto adapts with adaptive lighting

stable bough
violet dagger
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not zigbee 😄

stable bough
#

Shit 😂

violet dagger
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standard lamp with a smart switch

stable bough
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That’s a pretty cool system also

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I should think about it

violet dagger
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better availability but you lose out on color temperature adjustment

stable bough
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Yeah of course

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What about Müller-Licht Tint as lamp?

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The only thing that seems they are 806 linen

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Lumen

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It is enough to light a room?

violet dagger
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rooms do come in different sizes

inland coral
#

Weird how some of these lightbulbs have E/F energy ratings, while some have A+. They are all around 10W and give out around 1000lm. What gives

short elm
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im trying to get started with zigbee.. what does "Ext Pan ID" and "network_key" do? i'm useing zigbee2mqtt addon but i think this is general zigbee stuff right?

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also is there anything i should think about or do before i start adding devices?

austere patio
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Make sure to randomly generate the PAN ID, Extended PAN ID, and network key. You do not gain anything by using the Z2M default network key.

short elm
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thanks, that perfectly awnsers my question, because the default network key and pan id looked abit to "easy" or how you wanna put it and it said devices need to be repaird if changed so

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best to do it before i start adding 😄 thanks alot!

ocean cloak
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Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but how does zigbee compare to wifi devices in terms of reliability? I'm just getting into smart stuff and got some bulbs that are wifi and they've been a little flaky

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I know a big benefit of zigbee is power consumption so I'd probably go with zigbee for other devices that will be running on battery

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But bulbs are powered so that doesn't really factor in there

inland coral
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Zigbee creates a mesh network between devices, so the more mains-powered devices you have, the better and more reliable the network

stable bough
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Why this one is G

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And is 8.5watt like ikea tradfri?

ocean cloak
inland coral
#

Similar in my experience. Works 98% of time 😛

brave cedar
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hi all, quick question. Is there a way to force a zigbee mesh update so that the mesh is rebuild?

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I'm using ZHA with a tx coordinator. The one with the lama (can't come up with the correct name)

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I have over 25 main powered devices and 25 battery powered devices

#

but the last 2 days a lot of my main powered devices have no connection

#

and I have a lot of errors in the core log that devices can not be reached

austere patio
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Try rebooting the mains-powered routers

brave cedar
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and warnings that main powered sockets are taking over 10 secs to retrieve the data

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ah easier said then done, most of them are Niko socket that are in wall mounted

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I'll power cycle the few zigbee lamps I have

austere patio
brave cedar
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okay I'll enable debug and do a reboot

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okay debug is speewing debug messages, most of them are retries whom then fail like:

#

2021-11-16 20:17:39 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.channels.base] [0xA32C:11:0x0006]: failed to get attributes '['on_off']' on 'on_off' cluster:
2021-11-16 20:17:39 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.channels.base] [0xA32C:11:0x0006]: async_initialize: retryable request #2 failed: . Retrying in 0.8s
2021-11-16 20:17:39 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.channels.base] [0xA32C:11:0x0300]: failed to get attributes '['color_loop_active', 'current_x', 'current_y', 'color_temperature']' on 'light_color' cluster: Request failed after 5 attempts: <Status.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>
2021-11-16 20:17:39 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.channels.base] [0xA32C:11:0x0300]: async_initialize: retryable request #3 failed: Request failed after 5 attempts: <Status.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>. Retrying in 3.0s
2021-11-16 20:17:39 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.zcl] [0x3f96:1:0x0b04] ZCL deserialize: <ZCLHeader frame_control=<FrameControl frame_type=GLOBAL_COMMAND manufacturer_specific=False is_reply=True disable_default_response=False> manufacturer=None tsn=116 command_id=Command.Report_Attributes>

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or

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2021-11-16 20:20:34 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant] Error doing job: Task exception was never retrieved
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/zigpy_znp/api.py", line 435, in request_callback_rsp
return await callback_rsp
asyncio.exceptions.CancelledError
During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/zigpy_znp/api.py", line 435, in request_callback_rsp
return await callback_rsp
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/async_timeout/init.py", line 55, in aexit
self._do_exit(exc_type)
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/async_timeout/init.py", line 92, in _do_exit
raise asyncio.TimeoutError
asyncio.exceptions.TimeoutError

austere patio
#

Those are for ZHA. If you can, filter out the ones that look like Request failed (...), retry attempt ... of .... .

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Or upload your log somewhere/PM it to me

brittle summit
#

Hi! I have used ZHA and ConBee II on VMware ESXI for some time. Suddenly ZHA says "Failed to set up". All devices are offline. Have tried to restart vmware-host, change usb-port, remove and add ConBee as USB-device on the VM - no luck. Did a clean installation of HA, just added ZHA, and it works. As soon as I restore backup, its broken again

austere patio
brittle summit
short elm
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the zigbee2mqtt settings advice to use channel 11, 15 or 20... i thought wifi channels only ranged to 14?

austere patio
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Zigbee and WiFi don't use the same channels

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Their frequencies overlap but that's about it

short elm
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oh, couse i was told to use a wifi scanner to see wich channel where least traffic

obsidian sandalBOT
brittle summit
#

auto-move to hastebin was pretty awesome 🙂

austere patio
austere patio
short elm
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ooh ok, i took 15 wich should be good then couse wifi channel 1 - 6 where pretty low traffic so

brittle summit
austere patio
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What does /config/.storage/zha.storage look like? Should be something like this:

{
    "version": 1,
    "key": "zha.storage",
    "data": {
        "devices": [
            {
                "name": "dresden elektronik ConBee II",
                "ieee": "00:21:2e:ff:ff:07:57:8e",
                "last_seen": 1636517720.828483
            },
            ...
        ]
    }
}
brittle summit
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The file is a mile long

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22514 lines

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is that normal?

austere patio
#

Hmm. Can you zip it up and PM it to me?

brittle summit
#

sure

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Didn't see any sensitive data in it so .. 🙂

short elm
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"While pairing, keep the bulb close to the coordinator (adapter)." how the hell am i supposed to do that, the light is mounted in the kitchen and the zigbee dongel is 1 floor down -.-'

austere patio
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Where'd you read this?

short elm
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the pairing guide for my ikea tradfri light on zigbee2mqtt io page

austere patio
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You should be able to permit joins for your entire network and join it in its fixture

short elm
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ok so if i understand correctly i should put "permit join" to true on zigbee2mqtt and then press the pairing button on my zigbee light?

austere patio
#

You'll have to do the annoying off/on procedure six times but yes

short elm
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and once im done with adding my devices i turn off permit join again

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wait what? on/off 6 times?

austere patio
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IKEA bulbs (at least the ones I've seen) don't have any buttons. You turn them off/on six times to reset them. There are videos online.

short elm
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that will disconnect my remote wont it? so i have to repair the remote after its been added to zigbe2mqtt then?

austere patio
#

If you joined the remote straight to the bulb, they form a separate network. You can instead join the remote and the bulb to your Z2M network.

short elm
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my god this is messy maby i should just stick with zwave only 😅

crude otter
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none of my ikea remotes work properly

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they all report "Unknown" for their battery, and dont seem to generate any events when pressed

jovial aspen
#

Turns out one of my Sonoff contact sensors crapped out two days ago and now it won’t reconnect

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Zigbee is a fickle mistress

austere patio
#

Have you tried changing its battery?

jovial aspen
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Yep

jovial aspen
#

I think my coordinator is just in a mood

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It gets this way sometimes

sonic orbit
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Hey all - having an issue with zigbee2mqtt. I had a network working previously but my HASS box had a catastrophic failure. Since setting everything back up, I can't get any of my battery devices to connect to the network. All my outlets work fine, but battery sensors don't appear at all when allowing join. I've tried factory resetting the sensors, as well as replacing batteries. Any idea on a starting point here? This is all on the original zigbee stick (sonoff zigbee 3.0 dongle plus) and all Sonoff zigbee sensors, SNZB-01 02 03 etc

jolly narwhal
#

😆

azure tinsel
#

i have around 48 router devices and 56 end devices on my zigbee network at the moment. Im planning on buying 13 more smartplugs (routers) and around 20 more end devices. will my CC2652P2 with ethernet from tube's website be able to run all these? What would be the max?

jolly narwhal
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zstack firmware expected limits are documented

azure tinsel
#

ok thanks so around 200 devices

jolly narwhal
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at least

sour shadow
#

200 Zigbee 3.0 devices, 100 normal routes to many devices, 200 source routes to many devices

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You'll run out of money first

azure tinsel
#

😅

#

thanks for the info. i will buy some more then 🙂

crude otter
#

so i have an IKEA "FYRTUR" roller blind here... i believe it comes 'paired to the remote' out of the box

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so in pairing it with ZHA, that pairing to the remote will be lost, yes?

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can i then pair the remote back to the blind, or do i have to pair the remote to ZHA also?

sour shadow
#

You either pair the remote to the blind, or to ZHA

crude otter
#

so i can pair the blind to ZHA, and the remote to the blind?

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or do both have to be paired to ZHA?

sour shadow
#

Up to you really - do you want the remote to do more than control the blind?

crude otter
#

and i assume there is a way to set the 'limit' for the up/down?

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nah, i just want the remote to control the blind

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i guess the question is.. does pairing the remote to the blind remove the blind from my ZHA network?

jolly narwhal
#

yes

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I would guess

crude otter
#

so that sounds like i should pair both the remote and the blind to ZHA

jolly narwhal
#

I do no binding in any devices

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Everything is connected to z2m

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and I do stuff in HA

crude otter
#

you can also 'bind' devices in ZHA in groups... is that kinda the same thing?

jolly narwhal
#

same but different

crude otter
#

will i need to make an automation or similar to make the remote control the blinds?

jolly narwhal
#

yes

crude otter
#

ok, i can deal with that i think.. so the last thing will be setting the 'top' and 'bottom'... but i assume thats done on the blind itself, not in HA

jolly narwhal
#

No idea

crude otter
#

i guess im going to find out soon enough

crude otter
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so if i wanted to control the blind with the remote, should this be an 'automation' or a 'scene', or a 'script' ?

jolly narwhal
#

Why not all of them ?

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It can for sure be both an automation and a scene

sour shadow
#

Likely you'll use an automation unless it's going to be driven from the UI

jolly narwhal
#

I only use scenes one place currently, to switch light modes in my wifes office

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other than that it is all automations

sour shadow
#

I use none - if I ever need to snapshot the state of entities then I'll use them then

jolly narwhal
#

or to be fair, it is automations calling scenes

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😄

jovial aspen
#

Interference from my Aqara hub

jolly narwhal
#

the Aqara hub has really good coverage, but I'm still glad I got rid of it

jovial aspen
#

I use mine for visual cues for my alarm system

jolly narwhal
#

Eh, with 80+ smart bulbs, I have better ways of doing that

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😄

jovial aspen
#

I haven’t got any coloured ones yet

jolly narwhal
#

Don't need colour to alert

jovial aspen
#

They seemed unnecessary when I can just use my hub

#

Well we do red for triggered

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Yellow for pending

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Blue for arming

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Green for disarming

jolly narwhal
#

#overlyverbose

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😄

crude otter
#

the blind is working well

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the top/bottom limits are hardware-based.. as in, its set on the device, nothing to do with the zigbee side of things

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i also got the open/close button added, and using an automation with multiple triggers (with ids) to open/close/stop the blind

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so it acts as the wife expects it too.. it doesnt seem to show its status too well in HA though

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it seems to always report its "current_position" as 100

crude otter
#

thats a problem for tomorrow i guess.

supple falcon
#

i just installed one of these 2 days ago and both nights it went unavailable. Might that be related to day/night sensor? Any known way to disable that?

stable bough
#

Which one is best for you?

#

I see that they're 9W for 806 lumen

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Innr from 2200K to 5000K

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the other from 2200K to 6500K

stable bough
#

what's the best zigbee stick for raspberry t obuy?

obsidian sandalBOT
#

Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Command '~pickyourstick' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
stable bough
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what's difference between 2562 vs 2562p

sour shadow
#

Basically, an amplifier

scarlet bramble
#

Talking about that, have electrolama's zoe2 ever been in stock or is it a coming product?

stable bough
#

Any idea where to buy on Germany? For fastest delivery?

#

What’s about this

inland coral
#

That’s pricy

stable bough
#

Ok 😬

#

Any cheaper alternative that ship in Germany?

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This?

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I’m not sure which type of antenna to choose 1-2-3 or 4

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This is 37€ with shipping

vestal atlas
#

You can find some cc2652p on ebay from Germany too

ivory echo
#

Anyone here that by chance is using the Zigbee2MQTT addon?

stable bough
# vestal atlas You can find some cc2652p on ebay from Germany too

https://www.ebay.de/itm/224675740329?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item344fb7baa9:g:J7cAAOSwOkBhhA98&amdata=enc%3AAQAGAAACkPYe5NmHp%252B2JMhMi7yxGiTJkPrKr5t53CooMSQt2orsSvtkx670Z0mbyfWqmxLFLYbdamvgLj0wYd2Q%252F%252BRqgVLyGouE7v3AG6TfJrcJhW4%252Fzuqn2UuQriPK4JLqw0PEoXZKVQ%252BmNYv1utGhAJC%252B7DbmIoiWIGgbDObArmV4ihCfyJec47HHWsiyKX1ngzwUVMOy%252FM1ajY66H18BP4LWnHUL0LO4zd7xKDTg%252FMrrKN7Q96IBgfACVrCjXh5upfYAQdsHSH2z%252BXRnTqAwkWV%252BSxbc%252FKWd0i8m4M6zU%252F6CjJlZJQlVXYH2hPYEIdFwoP23VhMAbix5GdKkvt7%252Bkag2NpW9Mi2%252BJ89YSJPdVlYPgHLqoPt%252F27LuRnhWfK6RbnXgXk3Yxp802pBNtO3yEEUutMl2CpqgkgOVenlE5iJZmyyxoNUvlnD3VnRdyNXSkkxIn%252FDrK2IMPBzvrMcEBygCobjt%252BSwFowW7ssrgLbRttx%252F8ikNPDrxAx9XpK3h5xncaMz6tlp5M9RuiDPPSjyhu7ff2KKC62BOV083hom4F157eF8dDN9%252FCLkebI6QhNfRZu04W9LwZpVcVUR8DEOvq996bm0O3fTCOisD1c07kXEj1QroiE47d%252B4n%252BSg1kI0LWl1jrflpWbYSfyUXsnMOtr%252Bx%252BIFkI0jOu1%252BbkslRch%252F0qvHnRABqSBFKbPK%252FBdwdAXlBAzj5qlEIq2bQZEIqyeg6XuootlSwxg56WKcARpS4RXrzrhGo3cfsyHdyHDdHwCeFfO6MeeVgiyUQ4Bc8nt8uXyoqa3baxB2zHuIEYkcXoEqK6Afg%252BqFXbIXpn5z0VtEx0QSo0yhcuPZ4JT0B68l69IJY7S3OJQpaVJ8Nkhf7O4|clp%3A2334524|tkp%3ABFBMpInW6aVf

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i found this cheaper, but will be enough without external antenna?

ivory echo
#

I tried it now, but it does not seem to work (cant get access to USB even the config is correct)

gentle flint
#

New aqara door sensor comes with a ZB3 Install Code inside. Wow

molten linden
vestal atlas
warm sonnet
#

The z2mqtt documentation for the Tuya 601 TRV suggests its possible to control how open the valve is, but in ZHA (which I use) is it also possible to send such commands to these devices?

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Force (enum)
Force the valve position. Value can be found in the published state on the force property. It's not possible to read (/get) this value. To write (/set) a value publish a message to topic zigbee2mqtt/FRIENDLY_NAME/set with payload {"force": NEW_VALUE}. The possible values are: normal, open, close

plush latch
#

Hello. Im using cc2531 chip as a usb dongle and zigbee2mqtt. I have variois sensors, buttons, motion detectors etc

#

But I have an issue with couple of products (maiy aqara sensor tempereture, motion detectors etc.)

#

I can connect them to my zigbee network but after a while, these sensor just not any longer available (in status column shows N/A)

#

I tried again to connect them, but after an hour or two they again disconnects from my zigbee network. I tried also to switch battery and put new pne, still the same.

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Any hints? Should I try with cc2651?

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Also I can mention that my ap unify is realy close to my zigbee stick, but I dont have any problems with majority of sensors (they work year and a half with no disconnections)

austere patio
plush latch
#

Zigbee routers?

jolly narwhal
#

Yes

plush latch
#

None

#

I have just usb zigbee cootdibator cc2531

#

And then I found this page

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Where they said that this chip cc2531 is not recommended?

#

Should I migrate to cc2651?

austere patio
#

You have no mains powered devices at all? Only battery powered sensors?

plush latch
#

I have 70m2 apartment

plush latch
austere patio
#

How many devices do you have in total?

plush latch
#

But weird thing is that majority if my sensors/buttons from aqara is working ok for 1+ year

#

Just some devices are disconnecting constantly..

jolly narwhal
#

No routers 🤢

plush latch
#

I have one roiter that is actually a 220v switch

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But on my map I can see clearly that none of devices is connected to it

#

Maybe I need to open join on that router and then re-add some devices to it

#

But still I think, that wont fix my problems with other devices

austere patio
#

Start with a USB extension cable

plush latch
#

I hve usb extension cable 🙂

#

But too close to my unifi ap

#

I tried to change wifi channels

austere patio
#

What 2.4GHz channel is it on?

plush latch
#

Both

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2.4 and 5

austere patio
#

5GHz doesn't matter, Zigbee is 2.4GHz

#

If it's on channel 1, that isn't going to help your Zigbee network

#

If you're in an apartment, your neighbors may have a strong AP on that channel

plush latch
austere patio
#

Wifi and Zigbee channels have similar numbers but different frequencies

plush latch
#

Maybe I should try to move away zigbee dongle to other spot in my apt

#

this is how it looks my settings for 2.4 Ghz wifi

austere patio
#

Run an energy scan to know 100% what your coordinator is seeing. Maybe you have a USB3.0 SSD nearby. Or the neighbor below had their WiFi router switch to channel 1.

supple falcon
#

I am getting frequent disconnects with E1745 which I believe is gen 3. Any tricks for fixing this? I like the price, but don't like the results so far (about 3 days in)

vestal atlas
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I've not had any issues (apart from the occasional battery change) so no idea 🤷‍♂️. I got cc2652p and lots of routers nearby

night surge
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Hi guys, I just added an Aqara mini switch button to my ZHA install, I understand that I have to listen to events to capture the button press, but I am not sure which event to listen for, how can I find this out?

lilac wharf
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zha_event

night surge
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I tried listening for that but nothing shows up when I hit the button

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I re-paired the button and it works now, thanks

visual locust
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I have a device that Zigbee2MQTT has OTA support for, however I run ZHA. According to the docs I can place a FW file manually on HA and have ZHA update my Zigbee devices.
My question is where can I find the FW file? Perhaps I can rip it from Zigbee2MQTT?

austere patio
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What's the device?

pastel pendant
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Hi, I'm trying to pair my new sonoff zbmini to zigbee2mqtt, but I won't get any message in the log file. I tried the steps from the documentation(https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/faq/), but no succes. does anyone have an idea on what could be wrong here?

inland coral
crude otter
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so this IKEA FYRTUR is annoying me now.. it wont update its position/state in the UI unless i call homeassistant.update_entity on it

austere patio
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Reconfigure the device. It likely fell asleep before attribute reporting was correctly setup for every attribute.

warm sonnet
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The z2mqtt documentation for the Tuya 601 TRV suggests its possible to control how open the valve is, but in ZHA (which I use) is it also possible to send such commands to these devices?
https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/TS0601_thermostat.html
Force (enum)
Force the valve position. Value can be found in the published state on the force property. It's not possible to read (/get) this value. To write (/set) a value publish a message to topic zigbee2mqtt/FRIENDLY_NAME/set with payload {"force": NEW_VALUE}. The possible values are: normal, open, close

austere patio
warm sonnet
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thanks for looking into that for me, I have not ventured into "manage clusters" before, I assume I need to go into there and have a look around ?

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ok cool, managed to open the valve 🙂

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so now that you find the attribute and the relevant value, how does one now use this in an automation or script?

austere patio
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You can use zha.set_zigbee_cluster_attribute

warm sonnet
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thanks! ummmmmmmmmm, where? 🙂

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ah.... developer tools \ services \

warm sonnet
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Does this seem right? or close to right?
{"ieee":"60:a4:23:ff:fe:a0:f2:bd","endpoint_id":1,"cluster_id":61184,"cluster_type":"in","attribute":1130,"value":0}

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(trying to use a node red call service node)

austere patio
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You should be able to use the attribute name directly instead of its id for readability but that seems like it should work

warm sonnet
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its not, do you think I am supposed to have "" around the numbers? or maybe I also need to specify the entity in the call service node

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it works in the dev tools \ service area

austere patio
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No, they're supposed to be integers. What throws an error when you try to call that service?

warm sonnet
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the call service seems good, it just doesnt do anything

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ah it is working 🙂

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I was just setting it to the state it already was mindblown

warm sonnet
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@austere patio when you say I would be able to use the attribute name instead of the ID... are you referring to the ieee part ?

hallow zinc
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Has anyone else had problems with motion sensors being stuck in the "detected" state? I connected some new ones earlier and they worked fine for a couple motion triggered automations. Now after factory resetting them, restarting HA, and resyncing they are still stuck. I'm not sure if this is a device problem or HA problem.

austere patio
warm sonnet
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oh ok thanks

uneven ruin
austere patio
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Some only send a "triggered" message and without a quirk, they never reset

hallow zinc
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hmm, they did reset earlier and I was able to trigger a couple automations with them. They now seems stuck. I guess it could be the devices but it seems odd both would do the same thing at the same time.

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I also thought he detected -> cleared state was handled by the device itself. I thought after 1 minute they started to detect motion again.

tiny timber
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What does it mean when some entities/attributes of a device are updating, but others aren't? I have a contact sensor that is firing contact events, but battery status hasn't updated in 3 days.

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ZHA, Conbee II.

uneven ruin
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how much do you think the battery changes?

jovial aspen
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Cannot add binary_sensor.lumi_lumi_sensor_motion_aq2_ab071004_occupancy as this would exceed the 150 device limit. Consider using the filter option

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what's this 150 device limit now?

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Oh it’s something to do with HomeKit. Never mind!

short elm
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does anyone know if the cord dimmers from HZC Electronics work with zigbee2mqtt?

sour shadow
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There's a published list of known working hardware - if it's not on that list it doesn't currently work with Z2M

crude otter
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how can i get a device added to ZHA supported list?

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but i have the E2002 which is white

sour shadow
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Though most devices will likely work without that

crude otter
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well ZHA adds it

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and says its using a quirk

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but i get unknown battery level, and no zha_events when pressing the remote

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Quirk: zhaquirks.ikea.fourbtnremote.IkeaTradfriRemote

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im wondering if its a battery issue

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just asked the wife to grab a pile of batteries on the way home

jovial aspen
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Is it just this one button, or all tradfri buttons?

crude otter
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ive got it to work, sort of

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so with the 'hold' how can i have an automation keep running until 'stop' action is recieved?

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for example, holding "down" produces "move" event, and when you release, it produces "stop"

jolly narwhal
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for philips that would be easy

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as it has "on-press" and "on-release" exposed

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no idea for tradfri buttons as I don't use them

crude otter
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it produces "move" and "stop" for holding the down direction

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it produces "move_with_on_off" and "stop" for holding the up direction

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hmm, left and right produce "on", "press", "hold" events

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i might have found a blueprint

sour shadow
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Repeat is what you're after

rigid shuttle
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I'm having issues with a TV01 TRV, temp isn't updated in HA. Any ideas on how I should start troubleshooting?

jolly narwhal
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has it ever worked? how are you integrating it ?How strong is your mesh ? Have you re-paired it ?

rigid shuttle
# jolly narwhal has it _ever_ worked? how are you integrating it ?How strong is your mesh ? Have...

It has not. Connected directly to the zzh z-stack coordinator (to which I have 14 devices connected in total).
Mode, target temp, etc works both ways (to and from HA).
I can get the temp value, but as mentioned it static and wrong. If I use the temp offset for fine calibration on the TV01 device, temp is updated in HA but still static and wrong (also the offset value is not 1:1 to the temp reading)

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I've tried re-paring it. Also tried to manually change via 'Manage cluster' setup (I was planning on setting up an external temp script). Works for mode, target temp, etc. but not temp.

fallow pasture
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I just started with HA. Bought a CC2652RB to replace my hue + aqara hubs. Installed HA everything seems to work but can’t get zigbee2mqtt to work at all. Busted my balls for days now. It just doesn’t want to work. Any pointers ?

obsidian sandalBOT
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Please don't say I have an error or describe an error. Share the whole actual error message so we can help you.

Command '.error' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
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I'd start by providing details...

fresh mulch
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I am getting a "Config flow could not be loaded" python error when attempting to install "Zigbee home automation" https://gist.github.com/JohnMcLear/494014e1d883817eb8a1d9227717bfc2 -- Environment is Ubuntu with Home Automation installed with Snap -- Can anyone understand what the error output is pointing at? It looks like the error is bubbling from HA but perhaps it's an OS level issue as it seems to be enumerating devices?

austere patio
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The error is being thrown by pyserial when enumerating serial ports

fallow pasture
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Failed to start zigbee. Network commissioning timed out.

austere patio
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What is your coordinator plugged in to?

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Only time network formation times out is when the energy scan fails, meaning too much interference. Use an extension cable if you aren't already.

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Or the error message is generic and your stick may not have firmware.

fallow pasture
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It’s directly plugged into a raspberrypi4. The other plugged in device is a usb3 harddisk enclosing with 2 harddisks. Let me search for an extension cable I hope I have one

austere patio
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Yeah that's probably it: USB 3.0 and next to SSD (or HDDs).

fallow pasture
fallow pasture
fallow pasture
austere patio
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They gotta start selling them with the sticks tbh

fallow pasture
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How can that be the solution. I checked the voltage one time if it would show something but nothing out of the ordinary

austere patio
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It's not the voltage. The stick's firmware performs an energy scan of the Zigbee channels you're asking it to form a network on. If there's too much RF noise, it refuses to form a network.

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Active USB 3.0 ports generate 2.4GHz interference, as do SBCs like the pi

fallow pasture
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Learned something new didn’t know that 😩 How far away should I put the stick from the HDDs and router ? (They are next to the r4)

austere patio
fallow pasture
sour shadow
jolly narwhal
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🤢

fallow pasture
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Text of images

sour shadow
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Good news, they're harder for others to work with - you're assuming that they have the same eyesight as you, that they don't use a screen reader, that your colour choice works for them, etc

crude otter
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i have a device listed in ZHA and i cant remove it