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proud grove
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something missing..

austere patio
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Are you running Home Assistant OS or a custom docker installation?

proud grove
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HA OS. from the webiste

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i found the python3.8/site-packages under hassio_supervisor and there's no ZHA-quirks folder...

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maybe its hidden elsewhere by the software .. seems like it

austere patio
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That container uses Python but it's not the container that runs Home Assistant

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Let me try the exact steps to see what's wrong

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Do you have ZHA installed?

mellow geode
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The homeassistant container is hidden by default (when installing Portainer)

ivory hound
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lol

proud grove
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yah its unhidden

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its not there..

ivory hound
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why? is scared of portainer or why?

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😂

mellow geode
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Haha, I think frenck disabled it on purpose

ivory hound
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u mean addons in hasos?

mellow geode
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Yeah

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The Portainer addon (hides the homeassistant container by default)

ivory hound
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ah that are not really regular containers

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they are more scared

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idd

austere patio
proud grove
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and i have ZHA installed

austere patio
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Hmm. Try restarting the Portainer addon? The homeassistant container is the only one you can enter, the others won't work.

proud grove
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homeassistant container

mellow geode
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And entering ls /usr/local/lib/python3.8/site-packages/zhaquirks/ there doesn't output anything? (if that's the homeassistant container)

austere patio
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I think I see it

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deps

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Do you have the "Custom deps deployment" addon installed?

mellow geode
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I don't know how often this turned out to be the issue

proud grove
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i'm going to restart the porttainer

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and try again...

austere patio
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Or something like this in your config ```yaml
pypi:

  • zha-quirks==0.0.38
    apk: []
proud grove
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gonna restart the porttainer.. : (

ivory hound
proud grove
proud grove
ivory hound
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@proud grove now on a serious note what are you trying to do?

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ah good

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yeah 90% of problem is solved by a restart 🙂

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i know i am a sysadmin

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best fix ever

austere patio
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The other 9% get fixed by the second restart

proud grove
proud grove
austere patio
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Of course

ivory hound
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got any link? what integration you using ZHA?

austere patio
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Tuya is the source of 90% of problems these days

ivory hound
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yah i also avoid Tuya

dim shard
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Ah, that's really sweet to know. Then I can start with the 2531 and migrate to the 2652 when I get the chance. Cheers mate!

ivory hound
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i have 2 zigbee devices one works ok but reports as he wishes

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and second one have some wierd delays

proud grove
austere patio
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Try adding its model info to the TuyaSingleSwitch class

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Like MODELS_INFO: [("_TZE200_oisqyl4o", "TS0601"), ("_TZE200_tz32mtza", "TS0601")],

ivory hound
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sems to be supported in z2m

mellow geode
austere patio
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I'm not too familiar with Tuya so if your device's "zigbee signature" isn't exactly the same as that specific quirk, it won't do anything on startup

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What does the signature look like for your switch?

proud grove
ivory hound
austere patio
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That will be a bad combination

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Yeah looks like it's not a simple edit

mellow geode
proud grove
ivory hound
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god bless

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🙂

obsidian sandalBOT
ivory hound
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don't post walls pls

proud grove
ivory hound
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is ok now move on 🙂

mellow geode
austere patio
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Yes there are a lot of duplicates

mellow geode
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The first one looks like it matches

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Although I would have expected three endpoints but I guess it's because of Tuyas protocol

austere patio
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Yeah, the replacement has only one

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Does the quirk generate more or does it send events instead?

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I would have thought the quirk would generate three more virtual endpoints with OnOff or LevelControl output clusters

mellow geode
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Yeah, doesn't look like it's doing that

austere patio
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But I guess that's why it's called TuyaSingleSwitch

proud grove
mellow geode
proud grove
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because i thought it was the closest to the problem i have

mellow geode
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... if it weren't Tuya

proud grove
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thanks for helping .. will work on it - stay safe !

dusky hatch
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@austere patio I have the Aldi one which is pretty much the same from what I can tell. I have non ALDI units working with it, although the 4 button remote that comes with the starter kit needs some quirks for ZHA

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Answering your message about Lidl gateway compatibility

austere patio
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So it sounds like they do have some internet magic to pull up device info from Tuya's servers

mellow geode
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Sounds like somebody needs to buy a Tuya gateway lol

austere patio
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😦

cedar coyote
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Man, hats off to Tubes. I plugged in this zigbee hub i got from him, it was immediately recognized by home assistant. I popped batteries into my cheapo ebay iris contact sensors, and they were immediately recognized.

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easy mode.

mighty river
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do you use ZHA or which addon?

cedar coyote
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it just did ZHA out of the box and thats what i intended on using anyway

mighty river
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i just flashed some lights with tasmota does that mean that they have zigbee now?

sour shadow
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No

mighty river
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i't's only useable with mqtt then?

sour shadow
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The WiFi devices are, yes

silk lodge
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Hey

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I got a small question, i have heard that Zigbee systems are not always 100% intercompatible, both devices zigbee, different manufacturer, doesnt work, how do i know that My Zigbee Gateway / Stick / whatever is compatible with my sensors etc?

violet dagger
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there are ways 😉

silk lodge
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_>

violet dagger
sour shadow
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If you're using a "stick" then it's about your choice of integration more than the stick

silk lodge
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I know basically nothing about Zigbee, what would be the best "hub" to use?

sterile sleet
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why does my ikea bulb stay on even if automation in HA turns it off?
I can also turn it on in UI, wait 3 seconds and turn it off in UI after that.
then it turns off.

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was no issue in zha, now using z2m and this happens

obsidian sandalBOT
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@silk lodge There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended, but there are other options. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended options being the Zig-Ah-Zig-Ah!, Slaesh's stick (though be aware of the well documented communication problems with the seller), Tube's CC2652P2 based coordinators and the TI Launch-XL boards. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

Command '.zigbee' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
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IMO pick one of ZHA (part of HA) or Zigbee2MQTT (not) depending on your preferences/goals/whim

silk lodge
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ahok

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its mostly just thermostats that i would use with zigbee

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zha might sound like the best and simplest solution then

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Thanks, that helped.

sterile sleet
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why? whyyyy z2m?

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@jolly narwhal superior z2m doesn't like my superioror tradfris

sour shadow
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I've had problems with the Tradfri lights sometimes being told to turn off, telling Z2M they've turned off, while staying on

sterile sleet
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yes, exactly this happens

sour shadow
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The "answer" is to set up reporting of OnOff every X minutes so you can detect this

sterile sleet
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and where do I set that?

sour shadow
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In Z2M's reporting tab for the light

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like this

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sterile sleet
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69.... I see I see tinkerer

jolly narwhal
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No issues here with my 60 or so tradfri

sour shadow
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One, of course, is at 42

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I think the problem relates to signal strength - the one most likely to do it is in a really poor location

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However, it's really weird that the light confirms that it's off when it isn't, so I'm not ruling out crappy firmware

jolly narwhal
sterile sleet
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I have a huge mesh on a area of about 40m2... no walls in between and this affects only tradfri bulbs, was no issue with zha before 😮

jolly narwhal
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Then it is an issue of

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9️⃣

sterile sleet
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those endpoint/node settings apply immediately on "apply", right?

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I try those now, turning off / on in UI still needs a >2 second pause to sync correctly

prisma chasm
mellow geode
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That project looks very out-of-date.

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I'm pretty sure Z2M has its own GUI with a map

prisma chasm
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i know its bit old, but seems one of stuff with some info about it... will check z2m again..

dawn wagon
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i hate how you can't find any information, despite being right in front of your fac,e until you ask a question to a community

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disregard. I found what I needed. Sigh.

austere patio
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@dawn wagon depends on the integration you're using but if it's an ethernet coordinator and you're using ZHA, just plug it in and it'll work

dawn wagon
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ok. And don't need to use a network cable at all?

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just USB?

austere patio
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If it's an ethernet coordinator you do, I don't think it uses the power cable for anything other than power

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If it has only a microUSB port, it'll be like any other USB coordinator

dawn wagon
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This is the unit I picked up

austere patio
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Ethernet

dawn wagon
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ok.

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Thank you!

austere patio
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Did it show up with autodiscovery? That was merged into HA core but I'm not 100% sure if it's been released yet.

dawn wagon
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yes, shows up as both ESPHome and a ZHA zigbee controller (I think that's the right terminology)

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I'm trying to decide if I want to configure the ZHA, and if so, how I can set a static IP instead of the DHCP address it picked up

austere patio
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The .local address? I believe it maps directly to the IP address but if not, you can directly add the ZHA integration with the serial port path manually set to socket://ip.address:6638

dawn wagon
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Maybe i'm just not getting it but presumably, you'd need to ensur ethat it pulled the same IP address each time, right?

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I do see the "configure zha" and it auto-fills in the IP address and other information, I just want to ensure that it has the same IP every time

austere patio
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Unless your router is wacky, it should

dawn wagon
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I don't trust my router at all 😦 it's AT&T's stupid 2wire router that is super flaky. I've also searching for a better router and trying to figure out how to put AT&T into bridge mode, but that's a different project for a different discord 🙂

austere patio
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You can edit the path to the "serial port" after you set ZHA up (albeit not through the web UI) so in the unlikely event it changes, you can always fix it. I'm pretty sure the zeroconf setup points to a .local domain, which will always point to the gateway, but ask @tube#0783 himself if you want a better answer 😆

dawn wagon
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Right on. Just rolled with the dynamic address, and found the first thing I had handy, so this is neat!

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Next question. The previous owner of my house left a few of these Swann door and motion sensors behind, which appear to be zigbee HA 1.2. I went through the motions on their website to put it into pairing mode, but Tubes' zigbee controller didn't seem to find them. Any ideas?

https://www.swann.com/ca/swo-mos1pa

austere patio
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Did you click the "add devices" button and then put the sensors into joining mode within 60s?

dawn wagon
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yes

austere patio
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They appear to be standards-compliant and should work just fine with ZHA

dawn wagon
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did a full reset, clicked the internal button to put it into pairing mode, and started zha searching

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Ok. I'll keep futzing with it. Just wanted to get a second set of eyes on it, make sure it seems like it should work

austere patio
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Try permitting joins before putting it into joining mode

dawn wagon
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mind if I ask how/where to do taht?

austere patio
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So click the "add devices" before resetting your sensor (instead of after)

dawn wagon
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I'll give that a whirl.

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Thanks for the assistance. I'm sure I'll have mor equestions, but I appreciate your patience 🙂

austere patio
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If it's not showing up in the ZHA "joining" UI then the device itself is not attempting to join your Zigbee network, so either its battery is low or the reset sequence's timing is really precise.

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This sensor isn't like 50 feet away from the coordinator, is it?

dawn wagon
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I just put fresh batteries into this unit, but I can try pairing it closer

austere patio
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If it's a range issue then joining it next to the coordinator would help, but it'll lose connection when you move it back. Zigbee networks require router devices (basically anything plugged into an outlet or a bulb socket) to act as parents for battery-powered sensors. If your sensor is too far away from the nearest router (or the coordinator), it won't be able to join the mesh.

dawn wagon
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Gotcha.

austere patio
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So if your sensor joins only when in the same room as the coordinator, it's a range issue. Otherwise, the sensor isn't trying.

dawn wagon
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well, in fact, it did show up once it was closer. So, that's great! I'll just need to figure out how to brach out the mesh using main-power devices

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to get to these battery devices.

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this is exciting!

austere patio
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Exciting is good. The only other pre-installed home security system I've seen was "Zigbee" and didn't work at all with anything other than the original hub so you're lucky that yours seems to

dawn wagon
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Is there a way to check connection quality through HA?

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I had the sensor on my desk in the office, about 40' away from the coordinator, but it's final location is almost directly below it, one floor down.

austere patio
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Navigate to the device itself under the ZHA integration and the device object will have a "LQI" attribute that measures the relative connection quality (to the nearest router/the coordinator)

dawn wagon
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LQI is 106

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i'm not sure what the scale is though

austere patio
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0-255. It's hard to figure out what the "minimum" is for your specific environment but I have devices with a LQI < 50 (and a max of like 160) so 🤷‍♂️. I wouldn't pay attention to the specific numerical value unless the device itself fails to respond to requests or is otherwise unresponsive.

dawn wagon
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Right on. Thanks

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each zigbee device is part of the mesh and can relay for each other back to the coorinator, right?

austere patio
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Only if the device can stay powered on continuously

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So usually mains-powered devices, like lightbulbs and things plugged into outlets

dawn wagon
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hmm, I do have two phillips hue bulbs, but not sure how to factory reset them so that I can pair them to ZHA and HA

dawn wagon
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Anyone have a favorite zigbee compatible dimming light switch?

jolly narwhal
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You guys manually dim your lights?

ivory hound
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i do not

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got automation's for that

jolly narwhal
ivory hound
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in fact i made one that take care of all lights per room during all hours

jolly narwhal
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Adaptive lighting does everything for us, we haven't adjusted a light in over a yearCatBoppin

ivory hound
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i have zibgee hue dimmers that have some nice automations but i almost never use them

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yah i dont like that circadian thing

prisma chasm
molten linden
honest salmon
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hi, i trying to flash my cc2531 with no success. All the time i have ID=0000 . Any ideas what to do ?

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i change the cables, the Raspberry and still no ID

solid inlet
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Hm. While having installed ZHA and trying to remove addon & intergtions for deCONZ, I run into loads of issues. One being these cannot be removed... https://imgur.com/a/4jdXDht

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Are these provided by the ConBee stick and therefore not possible to remove? And will I need both deCONZ and ZHA integrations?

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I really just want/need ZHA (afaik), but if both are necessary

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Why are they shown as unavailable?

gentle flint
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What coordinator do you use?

dawn wagon
# prisma chasm That was reaction on my post?

No, but I totally see how you might think that. I had typed up a question, then found the answer literally half second later. deleted the question, but puddly had already seen it and started typing , so...

solid inlet
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Now using ZHA, but how do I backup radio data? Is that done by configure the database path mentioned in the docs so it will come along in snapshots taken?

austere patio
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ZHA doesn't do radio backups yet

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You can do them yourself depending on the radio you're using

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But the radio backup won't be of much use since the network topology changes over time and will likely break a chunk of your network if you restore it

solid inlet
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Ah... coming feature I hope? I am using a ConBee II

austere patio
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Yeah no way to do this at the moment

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Maybe with deCONZ

solid inlet
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I just left deCONZ to try something more modern, but I have not done my homework... And yes, they do provide means for backup

austere patio
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Those backups can be restored, you don't necessarily have to use deCONZ for anything else if you don't want to

solid inlet
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aha, will different integrations work simultaneously? Thought never crossed my mind...

austere patio
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Not at all 😆

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They take exclusive control over the device, so only one can work at a time. I was just suggesting you use deCONZ on a separate computer or something to take backups if you think they're necessary

solid inlet
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Ah, got it. 🙂 It's a good idea to have backups, but I have a quite small network, so not a huge issue.

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Which is the most preferred? deCONZ or ZHA?

austere patio
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Well the problem with the backup is that you can't really restore it without breaking the network

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Every device on the network has state, and the backup keeps track of only the coordinator's state

solid inlet
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yeah, have to take them often then so network don't change too much

austere patio
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So if your coordinator breaks and you restore a recent backup, that'll work

solid inlet
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or do you talk about the zigbee id's... they change all the time...

austere patio
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They can change, child devices joined to the coordinator can pick a new parent, etc

solid inlet
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messy... but something will save some time I would suppose

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its this line from ZHA doc's I was wondering about "Full path to the database which will keep persistent network data." Sounds like some kind of backup, or what network data are they talking about?

austere patio
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What devices are on the network and each device's endpoints, clusters, attributes, and current address

solid inlet
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Aha, ok... thanks

prisma shell
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sigh. latest still isn't helping my ikea button battery life

mellow geode
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Did you try the latest beta? Also, reset and rejoin the IKEA button

wraith vortex
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It's showing up as a light (and a binary open/closed sensor, for whatever reason)

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Any way to make it show up as a switch instead of a light?

sterile sleet
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so this polling workaround for the tradfris still doesn‘t do it for me Tinkerer 😢 think I will need to open a issue…

wraith vortex
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I tried messing around with the clusters but I don't really know what I'm doing there, so I didn't get far.

austere patio
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Tuya yet again...

wraith vortex
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Yeah, the price is right for a 16A relay, but the build quality leaves a lot to be desired and I don't think I'll be buying more. I won't be heartbroken if I can't get it to work.

sterile sleet
austere patio
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Most (all?) Tuya stuff needs to be explicitly supported, they don't follow the Zigbee spec

wraith vortex
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(I do really like the 4 button Tuya scene switches)

mellow geode
jolly narwhal
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@sterile sleet

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sterile sleet
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ye I won't add the rest of my devices if those ikea lamps not even work right 😄

jolly narwhal
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You guys and your IKEA problems

dawn wagon
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I'm looking for a set of dimmable light switches for the bedrooms. I usually am ready for bed before she is, so I end up laying there with the bright light in my face right now, waiting on her to come to bed so we can turn off the light. At my old house, I had a dimming switch, but don't recall what it was. We would usually set the lights to 5% via voice command (ok Google, set lights to 5%), which gave her enough light to move around the bedorom without blinding me.

I'd like to re-create that ability in HA. Can you recommend a good set of switches for that purpose?

sterile sleet
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tell me solutions @jolly narwhal !! you brought me on this track! it's your fault 😄

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lol

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it's adaptive_lightning AGAIN 😡 🤬 handgesture

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no z2m problem

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i will throw that thing out again and go back to circadian_lighting

jolly narwhal
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I have had no issues with either tradfri or adaptive lighting

sour shadow
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Same...

dawn wagon
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we also like being able to call for certain lights to be dimmed, such as during movies, or whatever. So, i'm just looking for community preferences regarding what switches will support dimming. My current light switches don't support it at all - it's either on or off

obsidian sandalBOT
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Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

  • Which country you're in
  • What your budget is
  • What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
  • Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)
Command '.what' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sterile sleet
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I just use hue remotes to do dimming, the automations are rather ugly though

jolly narwhal
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@dawn wagon Just automate it whenever a movie starts, no button nonsense

dawn wagon
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United States, not really sure what a reasonable amount would be, but ideally in teh $30-40 range per switch, zigbee protocol, and yeah, dimmable at the switch level is the real requirement. A secondary objective would be optional 3way switch support.

dawn wagon
jolly narwhal
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Oh, smart switches

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Smart bulbs yes

dawn wagon
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I don't care if you can manually adjust the brightness at the switch, I just need the switch to support dimming in some manner.

I can't do bulbs in my situation, I have to use switches

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Ah, found my shopping history. I had Kasa tp-link devices. If I udnerstand correctly, that won't work with HA in a local manner, only cloud integration

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at least, not zigbee

dawn wagon
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Maybe I'm just not understanding the issue. are there not zigbee compatible light switches that let you control how bright the room gets?

wraith vortex
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GE/Jasco has or had Zigbee Light Switches. Inovelli will have some soon.

jolly narwhal
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I have a tuya light dimmer for some old non smart bulbs

wraith vortex
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In my (friend's) experience, the Jasco ones are great Zigbee routers, too. I don't have any personal experience with them, I'm all Z-Wave for my in-wall switches

jolly narwhal
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It works fine

wraith vortex
dawn wagon
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Ok. I think I see where I was being an idiot regarding light switches vs bulbs. I apparently had it in my head that I used to have light switches that controlled the brightness, but I did not, and in fact had light bulbs. After reviewing the items I had purchased, I see what had happened

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sorry for being an idiot

gentle flint
uneven ruin
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I'm working with a lutron Aurora "dimmer" button. Its bound to zha. I've then added one bulb after another. Each time I go to the dimmer device -> clusters then bind to the new bulb.

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So far so good upto 4 bulbs

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the 5th bulb is not liking this and ignoring me

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I've messed with a second setup like this but just processed the events and its less smooth than binding to the bulbs directly

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Is there a max entity count for binding?

prisma shell
gloomy pivot
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if they fall asleep binding will fail

short valve
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I have a pretty good suspicion that rolling back the firmware on my unifi APs made my zigbee mesh stop collapsing every day or so

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Would have already migrated from conbee 2 to zzh stick if I hadn't somehow managed to kill the latter

jolly narwhal
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@short valve kill or just misflash?

short valve
jolly narwhal
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Does it appear in any other machine?

short valve
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Nope, not even in device manager on my desktop or lsusb on my NAS

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I might've flexed the PCB somewhat when reracking the NAS but I don't think it was that bad

queen bluff
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Anyone have experience with Ikea TRÅDFRI wireless LED drivers? I want to see if I can pair it with a TRÅDFRI motion sensor and have it trigger the stair way light without any hub

jolly narwhal
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@queen bluff I butchered two to run my own led strips, i don't use binding with anything, all happens via HA but should be possible

jolly narwhal
short valve
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I should probably order a new stick with a debug board and find out now that it's back in stock

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..or WAS back in stock, anyways, oof

jolly narwhal
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🤣

queen bluff
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I did see that this is 24v so I might need to buy new light strips

jolly narwhal
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Aye I use some cheap strips from AliExpress

queen bluff
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People say I can run it in series but no idea how to do that yet. Might need some research

jolly narwhal
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Used one large led driver for that cupboard

queen bluff
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Nice

jolly narwhal
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I just opened it up, soldered all led wires together

queen bluff
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With just HA right?

jolly narwhal
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The three outputs are all the same inside, there is no seperate fusing etc

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Yeah, it lives in my z2m mesh

queen bluff
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I would of thought they might use some kind of standard plug I can just buy

jolly narwhal
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And ha controls and adjust it

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It is standard plugs afaik

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But I was connecting 6 strips to 3 outputs

queen bluff
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12v strips?

jolly narwhal
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Nope, 24v strips

queen bluff
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Oh ok. JST are common, probably have lots of them from my RC stuff

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Not sure what XH is

jolly narwhal
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Google will know

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🤣

queen bluff
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Yeah will buy one first tomorrow and see

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Did you get the 10w or 30w?

jolly narwhal
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I'm gonna replace it at some point with esp + ws2812

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For lulz

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I have both, think I use the 30w in that cupboard

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And two 10w in smaller ones

short valve
jolly narwhal
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The death Star?

short valve
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yeah

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Though mine is the older model without the reflective inside

jolly narwhal
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No issues ever, had tradfri bulb in there since day one

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Did remove the RGB and replaced it with a CT though

short valve
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mmm

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flipping the switch does nothing so I'm kind of assuming that it's the socket in the fixture

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or possibly expansion/contraction in the bulb vs the socket but

jolly narwhal
#

Could just be the spring bit is pushed to far in, unplug it and pull the middle bit outwards

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The middle bit

short valve
#

yeah, just involves a ladder so I haven't quite gotten around to it yet.. 🙂

#

thanks

jolly narwhal
#

I knew it, you are a leprechaun

short valve
#

I can reach the bulb, but not the actual socket! Also I'm a cripple, there's a difference 😄

jolly narwhal
lethal lintel
indigo sigil
#

[Solved, look below for answer]
Hi , i have installed Zigbee2Mqtt into the add on, however i couldn't get it running. I'm using the Tube's ZB cc2652p2 coordinator and already setup the serial port needed by following the document here (https://github.com/tube0013/tube_gateways). But it doesn't work like it should, where am i missing? Here are the zigbee log https://pastebin.com/FPE08jG2

lethal lintel
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your antenna isnt connecting

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can you show your config

stone halo
#

Anyone did a comparison of the old rgb e27 Ikea tradfri and the new one?

indigo sigil
#

sure, https://pastebin.com/ZB5LJ4Ue here it is . I'm using the config provided

serial:
port: 'tcp://tube_zb_gw_cc2652p2.local:6638'
inside the zigbee2mqtt configuration.yaml, but couldn't get it worked tho. However, I am able access to the Coordinator ESPHOME Web based by using
http://tube_zb_gw_cc2652p2.local/

lethal lintel
#

config should be fine since u can view the webinterface

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afraid my knowledge stops there pretty early

indigo sigil
#

Thanks for the help bud. Hopefully there is other who could help tho. Had no idea what should i test out more

tropic depot
#

tube is usually around a bunch

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But you may be better off with someone who has z2m

indigo sigil
#

But what's weird is i tried to do the intergration with ZHA . it could intergrate successfully in the intergration tho. Didn't try pair any devices yet

indigo sigil
tropic depot
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did you leave zha setup?

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You can only have 1 thing active at a time

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2 things can’t use the port simultaneously

stone halo
indigo sigil
# tropic depot did you leave zha setup?

yes i do am aware only able to use 1 active intergration thing and so deleted the ZHA setup and tried on Zigbee2mqtt, but still no luck on getting it connected. Suprisingly it was easily making connection using the zha tho

indigo sigil
# indigo sigil [Solved, look below for answer] Hi , i have installed Zigbee2Mqtt into the add o...

[SOLVED]

Okay! , just got it setup. I tried using ZHA to get the device IP as i couldn't recognize the coordinator IP in my wifi router interface. But actually i had try this before and it doesn't work. The extra setup i took this time was configured the ZHA intergration then disabled it and restart the HA. Then next, i try to use the IP on the serial port int Zigbee2mqtt should look something like this:

serial:
port: 'tcp://192.168.0.XXX:6638'
Hopefully this could help other if needed. Thanks guys!

molten linden
#

Yea my suggestion was going to be to try the ip as mdns may not have been working in the z2m container

lime locust
#

was wondering if cc2531 sticks could interfere with loudspeakers , such as my 2 nest mini's which started making plopping noises lately ?

sour shadow
#

In theory... yes, but unless you've got the sticks right next to them... no

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(and even if you do, the odds aren't high)

molten linden
#

Are they gen2 nest mini’s? If so I believe that this is a issue with them. I got a new nest audio speaker and it randomly spits out crackles and pops. Google shows it’s a common issue

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Changed the plug to go straight to wall instead of a power strip and did a factory reset seemed to help.. we’ll see though.

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(So I don’t think it’s related to zigbee)

sour shadow
#

I had one of the original generation working about a meter from the CC2531 for a while, it never had any issues like that

near echo
ashen terrace
#

Hello! I just set up zigbee2mqtt on my docker home assistant installation.

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However, I can modify it using automations... what is going on? 😛

sour shadow
#

When you turn it on, does the popup show the brightness slider?

ashen terrace
#

no

sour shadow
#

And in devtools -. States it shows as a light entity?

ashen terrace
#

yes

sour shadow
#

It should also list supported_features there

ashen terrace
#

and it has the brightness attrribute

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hmm it sais supported_features: 44

sour shadow
#

You're using MQTT Discovery to get them into HA?

ashen terrace
#

yes

sour shadow
#

What does it say for supported_color_modes?

ashen terrace
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supported_color_modes: color_temp

sour shadow
#

That looks right, but interestingly it's not reporting that it supports brightness or colour temperature - which is deprecated and shouldn't matter, but clearl does

ashen terrace
#

yeah seems so

sour shadow
#

I'd open an issue in Core

obsidian sandalBOT
ashen terrace
#

I have 0 idea how to fix that though

sour shadow
#

(or possibly frontend)

ashen terrace
#

do you think its a HA bug?

sour shadow
#

Yup - but there's an easy test

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Open the Zigbee2MQTT UI and look

ashen terrace
#

wait, zigbee2mqtt has a UI? xD

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I litterally just installed it

sour shadow
#

And skipped all the fine documentation 😛

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You should see something like this

unknown.png
ashen terrace
#

Thank you, I'm going to try to get into the frontend part

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Yup, its available there.

#

Alright, I'll report the issue, thanks for the help T

uneven ruin
#

trick question should I switch from zha to zigbee2mqtt?

#

I'm getting some iffyness occasionally with the mesh quality not sure if the intigration can help with that or if its just a wifi vs zigbee thing

#

just last night 2 battery sensors that have been flawless for weeks went offline

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but yesterday I added 2 shellys in the general vicinity as well

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I'm using the Nortek stick

ashen terrace
#

i dont think z2m fucks with the meshing capabilities of the zigbee network

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it just translates between the zigbee signals and mqtt

uneven ruin
#

I went with deco m5 wifi which is a bit simplistic in its configuration so I can't even manage channels. Thats what happens when you make decisions on painkillers recovering from surgery

fleet lodge
#

Anyone have experience with Aqara Smart Plug (US) ZNCZ12LM?

indigo sigil
uneven ruin
#

@indigo sigil been running it for a couple years now, but moved and my zigbee network has expanded from 2 devices to 35 and growing

fleet lodge
#

I have a large network of Aqara devices, have IKEA Tradfri Smart Plugs provisioned and recently got hit with the SI Lockup bug that took down a good amount of my sensors. I am thinking about moving to ZNCZ12LM since they are in the ecosystem. I am also having this crazy idea where Aqara end-devices would actually join other ZNCZ12LM's if their parents went down since they share the same bastardized version of Zigbee 1.2.

uneven ruin
#

@fleet lodge haven't tried that one

indigo sigil
# ashen terrace wait, zigbee2mqtt has a UI? xD

Yep it does, should not need to do anything on the configuration by default if not mistaken. I just installed just now and could open the UI straightfoward . Add it to the sidebar for easy access and u can check all your device lists and features there too, very helpful! . dont know if using ZHA got this kind of UI tho have not explore more

uneven ruin
#

ZHA interface/feedback is lacking which is part of my thought on switching

indigo sigil
#

If your working fine for couple of years then should troubleshoot from when u make changes, Mine was like not working perfectly out of box had to make a refund lol

uneven ruin
#

might as well do it now before the network gets even bigger

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@indigo sigil well the changes where moving to a much larger house and changing everything

indigo sigil
#

should also plan things neatly. I just grab myself a Tube's ZB coordinator to handle up to 100++ devices. What's your coordinator if u dont me asking

uneven ruin
#

the Nortek stick running on a odroid n2

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might do the usb extension cable and hang it in the ceiling

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thats probably a good first step

indigo sigil
#

yeah, larger house always have issue on range. Need to alot of testing, before i was just using it in 1 room. Now i'm expending it, the hassle of testing the range is just wow.. so much work lol

uneven ruin
#

I've added plugs around the house to ensure good repeaters

indigo sigil
#

yep try that mate, i do also get a 3meter cable for my first CC2531 usb stick. it works well

uneven ruin
#

and I just started adding bulbs so I would think the mesh would be pretty rock solid

ashen terrace
#

okay zigbee2mqtt is awesome

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Anyone want to buy a conbee2? xD

jolly narwhal
#

Zigbee2mqtt 4 lyfe

fleet lodge
#

Z2M til' I die

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Or @subtle glen dies.... We need to keep him alive.

worthy vortex
#

Something has suddenly happened... I have not touched anything. But today my z2m is down...

# 
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-05-02 17:04:44: Failed to start zigbee
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-05-02 17:04:44: Exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-05-02 17:04:44: Error: Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms)
    at ZStackAdapter.<anonymous> (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/dist/adapter/z-stack/adapter/zStackAdapter.js:94:31)
    at Generator.throw (<anonymous>)
    at rejected (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/dist/adapter/z-stack/adapter/zStackAdapter.js:25:65)```
austere patio
#

What adapter are you using?

worthy vortex
#

Electrolama zig-a-zig-ah! (zzh!)

sour shadow
#

What firmware?

#

The pre 2021 firmware has a known lockup bug

#

The easy fix is to flash the 2021 firmware

austere patio
#

I had a lockup the other day and am running the most recent build

sour shadow
#

I've had none... yet 🤞

austere patio
#

Solution is to unplug it and plug it back in

worthy vortex
#

Do you mean CC2652R_coordinator_20210120.hex?

austere patio
#

Yes

sleek portal
#

Good afternoon. I'm using deconz successfully with a light and a motion senor, and am now adding my first switch. I have it paired OK throuh the phoscon web app, and in the deconz log I can see events being triggered when I press buttons. Now I need to find events to set up automations. The advice at https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/deconz/ as to use the Developer Tool Event to listen for deconz_event, but when I do that I see no events, even for my other deconz devices. For example no event is shown when the motion sensor state changes (even though the automation attached to it is run correctly). Does anyone have any suggestions, please? Hass was installed a few days ago, and deconz installed as an add-on.

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Hass was installed as a the downloaded official RPi image

mellow geode
#

The non-blocking multicast requests (zigpy_znp) aren't in Home Assistant dev or beta yet, right?

uneven ruin
#

what do you guys like about zigbee2mqtt vs zha?

#

thinking about switching before things get too messy

jolly narwhal
#

Decoupling

worthy vortex
austere patio
ivory hound
#

want to ask some stuff before i buy it

fast talon
#

For some reason I keep loosing my devices in HA. I am using a Silicon Labs EmberZNet protocol: Elelabs, HUSBZB-1, Telegesis and HA is on in VMWARE instance on my mac that is on all the time. Basically, I can connect them and they work for awhile then (maybe around a restart of the computer or maybe not) it losses connection and stops responding. Any help on where to look for troubleshooting would be great.

austere patio
fast talon
#

do I need to set it back up and wait for it to die again.. I am assuming

austere patio
#

Yeah

prime saffron
#

I need help. I have tried to connect to my Raspbee II running on my Pi 4 (ha on docker). I have installed and run deCONZ and confirmed it works perfectly on there. I have tried to connect to it via every single path I heard mentioned, S0, AMA0, etc. Still nothing, turned off Bluetooth, nothing. All I get is the unhelpful "Failed to Connect". At this point I am ready to throw in the towel and buy a usb addapter. Any further suggestions or advice on how to get more information on the issue?

austere patio
#

What integration are you using?

prime saffron
#

ZHA

austere patio
#

If it's a docker install you likely have a permission issue

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You're not concurrently running deconz, are you?

prime saffron
#

Let me check. The window is not open so I assume it isn't but is it a background task? (Used to windows, sorry)

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It is not running.

#

(I'll get those logs in a second)

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raise SerialException(msg.errno, "could not open port {}: {}".format(self._port, msg)) serial.serialutil.SerialException: [Errno 2] could not open port /dev/ttyS0: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/dev/ttyS0

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deCONZ is able to connect to the Raspbee 2 through that path, I am not sure why ZHA won't accept it.

#

Is this an issue with file paths on docker?

austere patio
#

If you didn't map /dev/ttyS0 from the host to /dev/ttyS0 in the container, it won't exist

prime saffron
#

Yeah, oof. looking through stuff in the thread above I think that lightbulb just came on... Will do that. Thanks!

mighty river
#

Hi all! I've opened a ZHA issue (https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/49985) yesterday and it was kindly pointed out to better ask here. I have some lights for which I use the mains power to turn them on and off. When I turn them off I'm stuck with the last state the light had and it takes about two hours before it's changed to unavailable. There seems to be a constant CONSIDER_UNAVAILABLE_MAINS, but I assume changing it is only a temporary workaround since it's most likely overwriten on updates? Is there anything else I can do about this? If someones willing to discuss this in more detail I may even be able to create a PR for this?

sour shadow
#

IMO the correct answer is don't cut the power

mighty river
#

@sour shadow Thanks for your opinion on the issue. Would you mind to elaborate why it's best not to cut the main power in a spontaneously self-reorganizing mesh network?

sour shadow
#

Because:

  1. Some devices won't reconnect to a new parent ever
  2. It takes time for devices to pick a new route - "spontaneous" is very very far from the truth
  3. Devices that can't reach the mesh for over a given length of time will never reconnect - and that can be as short as an hour
mighty river
#

Thanks for the explanation, I now get your point.
However, for me this seems to be no issue at all since I run this setup for like 3 years using deCONZ (mostly IKEA and Xiaomi stuff).
Would it be a solution to give the user an option to override the unavailable timeout on a per device basis - and also pointing out the risks you mentioned?

sour shadow
#

ZHA can do whatever it wants, the problem is with the devices

mighty river
#

I totally agree. Therefore my question was (and still is) if somehow I can make ZHA work the way I like it to work 🙂 Me creating a PR would be an acceptable solution, but this would require someone willing to discuss the details.

stone halo
#

can i add lamps to my z2m setup using the styrbar?

novel crown
silver stump
#

Hey guys,
I accidently ordered zhh! stick twice from tindee.
So I have two extra. Anybody intrested in one maybe?
Cause I only need two, not four.
I am located at Central Europe, Hungary.

silk lodge
novel crown
#

They are decent! Not sure if these are the whitelables one.

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But there exist a whitelabel version of these exact trvs that may save you some bucks

silk lodge
#

Whats a normal realistic range for Zigbee? i could get some problems with range...

novel crown
#

that depends on a lot of factors. Lots of WiFI nearby can cause issue. Thick walls can cause issues. Your coordinator and position of your coordinator is also important. I would say 50 meters.

sour shadow
#

50 meters ... is unrealistic

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In open air, sure, but in a house expect up to 8 to 10 meters in reality

silk lodge
#

German house, so relatively thick walls, router would be nearby, in a basement, server nearby. sounds like the worst factors combined to me

sour shadow
#

Put the stick on an extension cable - that'll help

#

Or, run it remotely using something like a network connected coordinator

silk lodge
#

i could probably get a stick which is ZHA and Zigbee2mqtt comatible, and if the range really doesnt work plug them into a RPI with a Zigbee2mqtt and Zwave2mqtt docker running on it, somewhere in the middle of the house.

novel crown
#

8 to 10 meters seems week af. I am bridging 20 meters here, inside my flat. But in your case I would go with a lot of routers distributed in the house

#

I like using the Tradfri repeater from ikea. Works nice and can also be used to power usb equipment

silk lodge
#

USB Extentions longer than 10m will probably also just introduce interference and issues, would probably need 5m+ to get out from where there the server is planned to be onto a relatively open space.

silk lodge
sour shadow
#

Yup

silk lodge
#

most devices would be in the upper floors, so they would all run over such a repeater hmmm

sour shadow
silk lodge
#

that looks pretty cool

#

does something like that exist with maybe zigbee and zwave built into one?

sour shadow
#

Unlikely, Z-Wave is regional and really only made by commercial manufacturers

#

Your other option is a Pi with Zigbee and Z-Wave sticks

silk lodge
#

wouldnt be a optimal system setup wise, but would probably work the best

stone halo
#

my zigbee config looking like a pentagram🤔

sour shadow
silk lodge
#

so i would run a zigbee2mqtt server on a RPI, how would homeassistant interface with that? would i have to add all the stuff manually then or can ZHA interface with a zigbee2mqtt server and let me manage it nicely in the normal webinterface then?

sour shadow
#

MQTT, and everything will just magically appear

novel crown
#

ZHA is easier to use and simpler, z2m gives you more control and usually has a few more supported devices

silk lodge
#

ah, so just the normal mqtt discovery i'm already running for some stuff?

novel crown
#

yes

silk lodge
#

thats cool

#
  • and kinda makes sense lol
dry fossil
#

If you're already using MQTT, Z2M is probably going to be the better option. ZHA takes some of the setup steps away but you've already done them for your other MQTT stuff.

#

Device support is pretty equal. If one supports something and the other doesn't, it's usually pretty easy to adapt.

silk lodge
#

im using mqtt for sending usage data from my pc to HA, and some custom arduinos. so yeah mqtt is already running and im fairly familiar with it.

novel crown
#

then just use z2m

silk lodge
#

and it would probably be better for the range stuff anyway

dry fossil
#

Yeah, it's handy for having another Zigbee network somewhere else that still interfaces well with HA.

#

You could have any number of different meshes, each with their own coordinator.

silk lodge
#

great, now i need another RPI lol

novel crown
#

You can't have enough RPIs.

silk lodge
#

true true

#

would a Zero W be enough to run a Zigbee2mqtt server and a z-wave js2mqtt at the same time?

#

optimal bcz wifi tho :/

#

planning homeautomation do be complicated tho >_>

violet dagger
#

sure if you try to run it on multiple rpi's

sour shadow
#

A Pi Zero can run Z2M, whether it could run both that and the Z-Wave option... not sure

#

You're about 2000000% better off with something with wired networking though

silk lodge
#

yeah

#

now i need a rpi and a small switch more

#

ur making me poor

sour shadow
#

Wait until you start buying all the Zigbee gear 😄

silk lodge
#

haha

sour shadow
#

Oh, there's another £100 spent on AliExpress

violet dagger
#

you're gonna be even poorer when you get fed up with rpi and buy a NUC

silk lodge
#

OOPS

#

HEY DAD COULD I PLZ USE UR PAYPAL REAL QUICKKKKKK?

novel crown
sour shadow
#

Or any second hand PC that's not Atom based

novel crown
#

Currently considering getting a SuperServer E200-8D for a home server

silk lodge
#

im just running a old pc with proxmox on it rn

sterile sleet
#

i get lenovo m93p tiny for 29 bucks @ my workplace 🤗 with i5, 8g ram and ssd

silk lodge
#

woah

sour shadow
#

I'm running on an 8 year old i5 laptop 😂

silk lodge
#

my dad might be able to get a old server from his workplace to use :))

#

that will be interesting

novel crown
#

never underestimate the power usage of servers @ home

sour shadow
#

Newer hardware is more power efficient than old hardware, and old servers may chew power like there's no tomorrow

novel crown
#

I always laugh a little when I see the people on r/homelab with their 4U Servers and then late be like "my power bill is so high"

dry fossil
#

I'll take my 10W consumption on my NUC over any server.

#

Was previously using an old workstation and that was still 160W.

sour shadow
#

Eh, my Xeon server peaks at well under 100W 😄

silk lodge
dry fossil
#

NUC! NUC!

silk lodge
#

50w average lol

dry fossil
#

Ah, 50W is nothing. I used to leave my gaming PC running 24/7...

silk lodge
#

with our energy price that will be like 150€ on electricity cost extra per year

silk lodge
#

150w average on that thing lol

novel crown
#

btw just asking here: There is a esphome discord, right? Can somebody like it to me, as I am unable to find it

sour shadow
obsidian sandalBOT
novel crown
#

thanks!

oblique root
#

Hi everybody,

I can't seem to find out what happened here. About 3 weeks ago, my ZHA devices stopped reporting the correct battery status. They are only reporting the last value. here's a screenshot of my grafana panel: https://imgur.com/a/HlX5LdJ. I'm running HassOS 2021.4.6 with a ConBee-II on a RPi4. The only one which still worked was the Eurotronic thermostat. The last value was 15%. I changed it's batteries today and it did not update the value either. Does anyone have any hints/ideas?

Thanks!

novel crown
#

How long ago did you change the battery? Battery status is usually reported like once a day.

oblique root
novel crown
#

All eurotrinics TRVs?

oblique root
#

only one eurotronic thermostat, the others are all aquara window sensors

novel crown
#

I would give it a bit, like a day or so.

#

Did you open and close the windows once or so? These window sensors usually only send on change and once in a blue moon to the report the battery status

#

you can even see that they report the status like well every 1.5 days or so in your grafanda screenshot

oblique root
#

I did, I have one next to me, did it multiple times. That is true, although, you can see, some of them reported the same value starting a few weeks ago

novel crown
#

The batterys inside didn't leak? This is really a weird behavior.

#

I would try to repair a device next. But honestly no idea besides this. Does the log say anything?

oblique root
#

nothing in the logs. Good Idea, I'll try repairing a few

blissful adder
#

Hi guys! I am getting nuts. I have new Ikea Tradfi and i can pair with no issue. I also have older ones... and those are a nightmare... I tried the on/off 6 times many times with no lucks on 2 different bulbs.
The model is LED1650R5.
Any tips to help me please?

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I am trying to pair it with phoscon

#

ConBee II

silk lodge
#

When using Zigbee2mqtt, how would you pair new devices, since you are not using ZHA anymore, there is no interface for that, right?

novel crown
blissful adder
#

Thanks. Will do.

novel crown
#

you do thjat by setting permit_join: true in the config

#

you then just go ahead and start the pairing at the device (how ever it is done depends on the device)

#

afterwards dont forget to turn of permit_join again!

silk lodge
#

ohhhh ok

#

Thanks

jolly narwhal
#

@silk lodge there is a web frontend for a while now

#

And it works great

silk lodge
#

oh ok

jolly narwhal
blissful adder
#

guys, i went overthe top maybe with this Zigbee. I got an ikea gateway for ikea lamps, philips hue for my 3 philps lamps and also the ConBee2 for all Aquara...
But would you keep all HUBS or centralize in the ConBee2

novel crown
#

Centralize!

blissful adder
#

I mean 3 gateway now (IKEA, PHILIPS and CONBEE2).

#

thanks cpid

#

That is what I am tryging to do

#

with ConBee

#

is taht a good move you think?

novel crown
#

You can use the conbee2, for the start. People here will tell you to use other (better) gateways later on such as zzh!

jolly narwhal
#

Buy a zzh and move to zigbee2mqtt

#

The conbee isn't... Great

novel crown
#

^there is the first 😄

blissful adder
#

i want simplicity

#

I am only worried for the ZBMINI i put behind my plugs....

novel crown
#

I am more for the motto of: try the conbee first and iif you run into issue switch the coordinator

blissful adder
#

I do not want to lose pairing there as those devices are super hard to reach

novel crown
#

I currently have a conbee2 running zha and have no issue. But I do have a zzh! here now

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and I dont have sooo many devices. I bought an zzh! for the antenna port so that I can install an antenna in a good spot and plan on moving from temporary setup with conbee and rpi to a more long-term solution

blissful adder
#

How long it takes to update an IKEA lamp??

#

bulb sorry

novel crown
#

long

#

OTA updates are slow

blissful adder
#

🙂

#

what is thi sZZH you are mentioning guys?

novel crown
#

zzh! is a zigbee coordinator

blissful adder
#

ok

novel crown
#

it's regarded to be the best, bugfree and stable coordinator among the hivemind here

blissful adder
#

another communication system then...

novel crown
#

it's basically always sold out

blissful adder
#

well... is there a way to back up a comminication to a device?

novel crown
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it would replace your conbee, but again, just try to stick with the conbee and see how it works out for you before you spend another 30-40€ for a coordinator and shipping

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in the sense that you dont have to repair the devices with a new coordinator? I am unsure.

blissful adder
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I mean... I told you earlier that my ZBMINI are a nightmare to install. Each take 2 hours... I do not want to dismantle all my wall mount things jsut to press a reset button

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That is why I am asking if there is a back up for a pairing kind of

novel crown
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Somebody else may be able to answer that question. I never changed coordinators so far.

austere patio
blissful adder
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Nice Nice!!!!

austere patio
#

Deconz is able to read the network settings so in theory something else can but nobody has put in the effort to do this (yet)

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Not 100% sure if everything is available though

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So try it out first. Mention me if you have any questions, the Conbee is the last stick without backup support so it'd be interesting to know if it's possible

blissful adder
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@austere patio possible to?

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YOu mean to migrate from conbee to

amber gull
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It exposes frame counters? Or just jack it up to artificial levels?

austere patio
#

Probably the latter 😆 , though they apparently don't seem to matter to a lot of devices if you aren't using APS encryption

austere patio
# blissful adder <@!652580495892152331> possible to?

🤷‍♂️ in theory. I know deCONZ has a network information dialog that exposes the low-level information, like the EPID, the PAN ID, channel, the coordinators IEEE, and a key. That's about all you need. In theory.

blissful adder
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All you need to do what?

austere patio
#

To copy network settings from the Conbee to the Zzh and have the ZZH take over.

blissful adder
#

ok

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thanks puddly

austere patio
#

It's low-level stuff so if you're not very familiar with Zigbee I wouldn't recommend it. But it might be possible.

blissful adder
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I need to wait hours now to update this tradfri thing! Crazy

austere patio
#

Is it a bulb or a button?

blissful adder
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bulb

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and also a button

austere patio
#

Bulbs shouldn't take more than 10-15 minutes, though if it's far away that may slow down. Dunno how Z2M handles it.

#

Buttons you have to furiously click or shake, they update very slowly otherwise

blissful adder
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i put all them close to each otehr

austere patio
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That may make it worse, at least for the button

blissful adder
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sorry i meant remote control . not button

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Hope you meant the same 🙂

austere patio
#

It has a parent router and if you move the button far away, it'll probably keep trying to communicate with it

graceful canopy
#

When did Xiaomi OTA's get added to Zigbee2MQTT just noticed updates appearing for my Xiaomi devices?

molten linden
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They were added a couple months ago then pulled after some people reported them bricking devices reappeared in a new pr a few weeks ago 🤷🏼‍♂️

graceful canopy
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Do you have the PR reference?

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I am updating as we speak so... 😬

unborn copper
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Hmmmm... in my "Zigbee" integration, I still have a few entries that show "Phoscon" and also "The device is disabled by Config entry." (even though they're still working), while most of those that I've re-added properly show "Zigbee". I've stopped the deCONZ add-on a while ago, and completely deleted it yesterday. But only now do I realize that something doesn't look quite right.

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My ConBee II is actually one of the devices showing up as supposedly disabled, and with "Phoscon" in the upper right instead of "Zigbee" 😕

jolly narwhal
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@graceful canopy which devices? I see none

graceful canopy
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@jolly narwhal Xiaomi ZNCZ02LM

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I tried a few all failed, so not promising

jolly narwhal
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Oh, I have no outlets

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Mostly battery Xiaomi

graceful canopy
#

Yeah my network went to sh*t after that

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Two devices dropped off

jolly narwhal
#

Lulz

obsidian sandalBOT
unborn copper
#

Well, that didn't go as expected 🙂

#

I see this in my core.config_entries file, now that I'm using the recent Zigbee integration, is this what I should try removing? (and all associated entries that have this entry_id) (see link above)

#

It has "domain": "deconz" and "disabled_by": "user" and I have no idea how to get rid of it from the web interface.

dry fossil
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If you aren't 100% sure what you're doing, don't edit those files.

jolly narwhal
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And even then

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Don't

unborn copper
#

So how do you suggest I get rid of these problematic deCONZ leftovers?

jolly narwhal
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They should remove themselves when you remove the integration, but I've never touched deconz

unborn copper
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Yeah, well, they didn't, and now I get weird things when trying to re-add the same devices using the new Zigbee integration. It seems like what I did initially caused this, as I ended up with most of my Zigbee devices being tied to both the old and new Zigbee integrations. Even deleting and re-pairing doesn't fix it because those files contain all of those leftovers.

jolly narwhal
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See, this wouldn't happen with a superior zigbee2mqtt implementation

unborn copper
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I don't know enough about zigbee2mqtt to know if you're trolling or not 😅

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I actually like MQTT and am using the Mosquitto add-on for my Tasmota based devices.

dry fossil
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He's not trolling. He really likes Z2M.

molten linden
sour shadow
#

Z2M FTW BTW

jolly narwhal
#

@dry fossil I really really really really do

unborn copper
#

I went to https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/ and... there's no introduction whatsoever. What is it? What does it do? Why use it vs. alternatives?

dry fossil
#

What introduction does it need? It's a way of connecting Zigbee to HA.

#

Well, to MQTT... but most people will use it to talk to HA.

unborn copper
#

Well, I did edit the .storage files to remove the leftoever deconz entries. No big deal... since jsonlint is available inside the homeassistant container 😅 (man, do I hate json and the last element not having a trailing comma!!!)

dry fossil
#

Trailing commas 🤢

unborn copper
#

I still got 4 of my ~15 Zigbee devices showing up as "disabled_by": "config_entry" so I've just set that back to null... 🤞

#

I'm NOT looking forward to migrating my Z-Wave devices to the new integration 😩

dry fossil
#

Which one? There are several, right?

#

Could always do zwave2mqtt... smart

unborn copper
dry fossil
#

I know that exists, that's why I said it...

unborn copper
#

Ah ok, I thought you were joking... 😅

dry fossil
#

Nope. If you're using MQTT for at least one thing, it makes it more attractive to run other things through it.

#

The main reason I can see for someone not using MQTT is having to go to the effort of setting up a broker. If you have one, you're halfway there already.

unborn copper
#

Anyway, I managed to get all of my Zigbee integration cleaned up. No more traces of deCONZ inside my core registry json files, and all looks good in Home Assistant so far. I must be one of the few who survive editing those files manually... or I just haven't gotten around to see the problems I've caused 😉

#

But for zigbee2mqtt, the website seems to indicate that I need to flash my Conbee II USB device, and that it's beta... not reassuring. Then everything I already have in my automations with the HA "events" coming from Zigbee devices needs to be adapted, right? Not super motivated to go through that either.

#

FWIW: ZHA FTW (at least for me, today 😆)

dry fossil
#

Conbee 🤢

#

And technically, you're doing things the 'wrong' way by using events. The HA way is to use entities.

unborn copper
#

Yeah... no idea... I just remember spending a lot of time gathering all of the different events that my Aqara cube sends. Not sure that can easily be an entity like normal sensors are. Same for my Mi buttons with their press, double, triple, long...

dry fossil
#

Z2M exposes those things as sensors 🤷‍♂️

#

The state momentarily becomes the type of press. Easy to write automations using state triggers.

#

This is a Zigbee button:

- to: 'single'
  entity_id: sensor.0x00158d000401926f_click
  platform: state```
cedar coyote
#

Running zha using tube's zigbee hub. I bought these used iris contact sensors off ebay. 3 of the 10 of them show up "closed" when I pair them and don't trigger a change in variable when i put a magnet near them, despite the light indicating it picked up the magnet. (1 of the 10 shows up "open" but also no change when applying magnet). I've checked the battery voltage and they're all north of 2.9V. I try it within 10 ft of the hub, direct line of sight. No dice. Is it likely these sensors have a 40% dud rate? or is there some additional trouble shooting I should do?

austere patio
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Repeatedly trigger the sensor and click the "reconfigure device" button once

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It's likely the sensor never got configured properly during setup

stone halo
#

how does one get the functionality of the ikea styrbar to work on homeassistant

cedar coyote
austere patio
#

Before and after, give it like 10s

#

It's to keep the sensor awake so that requests to it succeed

cedar coyote
#

ahh

austere patio
#

Did it do anything or is the sensor still not behaving properly?

cedar coyote
#

i am gonna go try now

#

the other thing im seeing is, one of the "working" contact sensor is correctly reading this sensor as closed, but it fails to bind the power or temperature. i will try your reconfigure approach and see if it helps

gentle flint
cedar coyote
cedar coyote
#

powered everything down for 10 minutes, swapped the zigbee hub to a 3A wall wart, powered it all up, removed and attempting to re-add devices, 4 of them added, but the sensors dont actually send new values when i put magnet near them. reconfiguring does nothing. theres gotta be something else f'ed up here.

#

i wonder if my 2.4 ghz/5gh wifi router is interfering or something

sour shadow
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See the pinned messages on interference

dusk bough
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got one of these, doesnt seem to be updating

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says it still has signal, i can read it's data, but it hasnt changed at all, which is not right as i walked through 3 rooms and put the sensor in with our hot peppers and no change

dry fossil
#

Your... hot peppers?

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Like... spicy hot or really warm hot?

sour shadow
#

🤣

dry fossil
#

If you really want to check if your temperature sensors work, you should smear them with wasabi.

sour shadow
#

Nah, stick them in the freezer, then the microwave

dusk bough
#

hot peppers like we got hot banana, jalapeno of 2 kinds, cayenne and 1 other i dont remember

#

we always start them inside before it gets nice enough out

dry fossil
#

Sure. But how does that help test a temperature sensor? 🤔

dusk bough
#

well i walked through about 3 different temp's and humiditys

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with no change and i stoped in each room for a min

sour shadow
#

It can take more then a minute

#

And wandering around makes it hard for the device to stay connected to the mesh

amber gull
#

One does not simply walk....into the hot pepper room

#

Those devices in particular don't handle network or physical roaming well

dusk bough
#

ok i went in and reconnected it while its in it's location, and then blew in it to see if it changed, it did

#

there a way to force it to update at all by chance?

amber gull
#

No, it's initiated from the device itself -- usually min reporting interval or significant change, which ever comes first

dry fossil
#

No, you don't force sensors to update 😄

sour shadow
#

Well, you may find that the manual wake action causes it to report everything

dry fossil
#

They try to conserve battery by only reporting rarely, just like Walt said.

sour shadow
#

It does on the Xiaomi devices, and then does a few minutes of rapid updates to drain the battery faster for you

#

If you want fixed interval updates I'd point you at Z-Wave sensors that are USB powered

dusk bough
#

would you have a recommended one?

#

im looking at getting like 3 or 4 temp/humidity sensors

amber gull
#

Those ones are great, they will work fine

#

My hot peppers love them

dusk bough
#

wait till sept when weeds legal mmwwwwaaahahahaha

amber gull
#

Don't forget your ESP32 and MiFlora sensors too then, lol

dusk bough
#

im horrible at homebrewing things

sour shadow
#

The Xiaomi sensors all work fine for normal use

dusk bough
#

to offtopic?

amber gull
#

the russians have a home brew open source zigbee plant sensor posted if you really want a challenge

dusk bough
#

nope, lol

#

im looking at 3dprinting a parastolic pump to automate nutes tho

#

i just need to get a PH PPM meter that would link into the automations

amber gull
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now have to say I've never seen a zigbee PPM meter 😆

dusk bough
#

lol, to offtopic

cedar coyote
#

ok. moved the zigbee hub 25 ft away from the wifi router via an ethernet cable, connected it w/ a longer usb cable. the sensors are all within ~10 ft and line of sight to the hub, but it nothing will connect. my 2.4 ghz home wifi is on channel 1 which by my understanding should be the farthest away from where the zigbee tries to operate. tried uninstalling and reinstalling the esp home and zha integrations. it recognizes the hub right away, but still cant pair. im flummoxed.

sour shadow
#

WiFi channel one is far away from Zigbee channel 26, but right down where channels 11 through 14 (and up to 17) sit

cedar coyote
#

i can try to disable 2.4 ghz wifi entirely and see if my issues persist

sour shadow
#

Well, check what channel you use for Zigbee first

cedar coyote
#

huh. this might be a problem. when i go to the network visualization tab on my zha integration screen, it says the device is offline.

molten linden
#

I've seen that before - and think it's not accurate. so you are not able to get anything paired at all?

austere patio
#

That's just a UI bug, yeah

cedar coyote
#

hi tube. it was pairing earlier today, but some of my sensors were not communicating back *when triggering the contact sensor to close. this started down a path of trying to troubleshoot, reconfiguring devices, reconnecting, ultimately reinstalling.

#

now nothing will pair

molten linden
#

can you enable debug logging and post some logs when trying to pair to paste.ubuntu.com?

#

do you have anything else beyond the iris sensors to try?

cedar coyote
#

nope just them. some of them were working correctly yesterday, updating when i open/shut the door

#

how do i enable debug logging? running the home assistant rasberry pi OS

molten linden
#

really just zigpy and zigpy_znp logs

cedar coyote
#

are they gonna show up under configuration > logs?

molten linden
#

Errors and warnings will but you’ll want to look at the home-assistant.log file in the config folder

#

Are you still able to connect to the hubs web interface? Just to check that it’s still online and nothing funky going on with the esp32

cedar coyote
#

whats the url path? just port 6638?

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i dont know if any of this is useful but this is what i see in the log that mentions zigpy

molten linden
#

the url no port needed to reach the web FrontEnd

cedar coyote
#

i can reach "tube_zb_gw_cc2652p2 Web Server"

molten linden
#

I’ll take a look at the log shortly - cooking dinner now. So attention span limited

cedar coyote
#

i wonder if i did something stupid like... put it into firmware update mode or something. if that's a thing. I used the toggle to try to "Restart the Gateway" earlier. i dont know if i should have done that. I didn't click the "prepare for firmware update" toggle itself

fleet lodge
#

PSA: I've got the Aqara Smart Plug to parent 15 devices. Had to purchase the device to find this out.

#

By the grace of god, maybe I'll have my Aqara end-devices make the hop from one dead parent to an alive parent.

cedar coyote
fleet lodge
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omfg they're hopping on the new parent

molten linden
#

@cedar coyote I do t think that would irreparably harm anything.

cedar coyote
austere patio
#

Log shows nothing unusual

#

You permitted joins and nothing joined

prisma shell
#

my Aqara env sensors were a pain to pair the first time

cedar coyote
#

well im out of ideas. earlier i had hit the top switch toggle here thinking the fact it was in the "off" position meant the device was off. that might have f'ed something up. https://i.imgur.com/PYSESdl.png

molten linden
#

If you restart it it should be fine, I’d go into those entities in esphome integration device page and disable them.

#

Do you have a link for the sensors you are working with? I may have one I can test with.

cedar coyote
#

iris il06-1. some of them were working fine yesterday and even this morning but now nothing will pair

austere patio
#

Have you tried removing their batteries for a bit?

cedar coyote
#

Yes I just did that. Unplugged zigbee hub for an hour, and all devices removed batteries. Removed esp and zha integrations and did fresh install of them. When I try to pair my first device I get these messages

austere patio
#

"These" being the ones you posted earlier?

#

The network is open for joins, your sensors seem to be not wanting to join it

cedar coyote
#

This is from the "show logs" on zha add device screen

austere patio
#

That's nothing to worry about

#

Do you live in an area with deployed smart meters?

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I have a few sensors that refuse to join my network unless they're physically unable to scan for other networks in the area by being put in a metal pot with the coordinator... About 80% of my power company's grid of smart meters permanently permit joins and steal newly-joining devices sometimes.

cedar coyote
#

Yes. But they're whatever proprietary version of zigbee

#

But yesterday I literally connected everything

#

I don't understand why nothing can connect now

#

The sensor is still flashing blue

austere patio
#

The sensor is what decides to join a network, the coordinator only broadcasts that its network is open for joins

#

So either the sensor is not trying to join your network, or it's joining some other network

molten linden
#

Is the reset on those to pop the battery and hold the tamper button while inserting it?

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Pretty sure that how all the centralite variant contact sensors work. I pulled apart my not in use iris one when I was trying to modify one to make a recessed sensor.

#

I have some slyvania branded ones that reset that way

cedar coyote
#

There is a button if I hold down when installing battery the led is red for a few seconds

#

10 different iris sensors all failing to connect

#

theres something systemic wrong

molten linden
#

Hmm 🤔

#

I pulled out a centralite sensor and get the red light as well but not joining.

#

Try this

#

Reset the device (push button while inserting battery)

#

Once it flashes red pull the battery

#

Wait about 10 seconds

#

Enable joining - Re-insert battery it should start flashing green or blue to join 🤞

cedar coyote
#

It sounds like you're making yours go into demo mode and then back into pairing mode?

molten linden
#

I re looked up pairing instructions

#

That’s what I found

cedar coyote
#

When i hold the button and insert battery, the light turns solid red for like 3-4 seconds, then i release the button and it starts flashing blue

#

which sounds like pairing mode

molten linden
#

Mine didn’t do anything after the red until I pulled the battery and re-inserted

cedar coyote
#

Trying

#

Device flashing blue, zha searching, no dice

#

last seen like 4 hours ago too i just notice

#

Im going to uninstall it, change the reserved ip address, and reboot the pi, and try again

#

@molten linden is there a way to force the hub to get a new ip address? It seems to have remembered the previous one even though i changed the reservation on my router

#

Maybe it doesnt matter

molten linden
#

You router should handle that on a reboot of the hub

#

So I’ve had no luck resetting and rejoining the sensor I have since I got it to work the 1 time

cedar coyote
#

RIP

#

you think its weird my zigbee device shows as last seen ~4.5 hours ago?

molten linden
#

Idk - the logs looks good from the coordinator side. Puddy is the dev and would have seen something if they were off there.

cedar coyote
#

maybe i will ask the guy on ebay if he has any troubleshooting suggestions and if not ask to return them

molten linden
#

After about a dozen tries I got the one I was working with joined to a different network. It was NOT super straight forward and just feels random that it finally reset

#

^not straight forward

austere patio
#

Sounds just like my random eBay motion sensor

#

Yeah, if there was anything wrong with ZHA <-> hub communication you'd see big scary error messages printed every 30 seconds to your log until it was re-established, which isn't the case. Unless there is some RF problem (unlikely since it was working earlier in the day), it really sounds like these devices are shipped with in some "easy join" mode from the factory and are a PITA to actually get into joining mode a second time.

cedar coyote
#

Well, the hours ive spent trying to get it to go, plus the hours yall have listened and helped troubleshoot, i would be way far ahead if i just had originally bought new sensors for $20 a pop if they were just reliable and not mysterious

austere patio
#

Is there any paper user manual for the device or something that definitively explains how to get it into joining mode?

#

To rule out UI issues, are you joining these within 30-60s of opening the ZHA "permit joins"/"add devices" page?

molten linden
cedar coyote
#

Hmm those are different

#

i will try those

austere patio
cedar coyote
#

I dont know which version it is, model number is il06_1

#

so im guessing v1

austere patio
#

The exact manufacturer and model name from when it joined your network seems to be how they're identified

molten linden
#

the one Iris I have left in service identifies as a centralite 3320-L

austere patio
#

The IL06_1 on Z2M's page apparently says its manufacturer is iMagic by GreatStar

cedar coyote
#

^ that is it

molten linden
#

🤦‍♂️ 🤷‍♂️

cedar coyote
#

That link is sketchy af

austere patio
#

"Iris has Shut Down: Thank you for including us in your search for ways to make your home smarter and safer, and for letting us be a part of your lives."

#

Looks like your instructions are gone 😆

cedar coyote
#

Im going rogue

#

i deleted my zigbee db file

#

i dont care if i have to nuke my hass setup and start over

#

That did nothing.

austere patio
#

Won't do much, unfortunately. If the radio says nothing joined then nothing has joined

cedar coyote
#

i was trying to wipe out where it said “Last Seen: 2021-05-03T14:21:05” for the zha device

austere patio
#

That's probably the time you last started up HA

cedar coyote
#

i have reset HA like 25 times since then

austere patio
#

That I don't know then. Your debug log will contain zigpy or zigpy_znp in it every 30s to indicate that communication with the Zigbee radio in your hub is still working

#

Anything weird in the ZHA user interface is likely just a bug

cedar coyote
#

I contacted the seller of the iris sensors to ask if they have any troubleshooting tips. Maybe i should use this opportunity to buy some other zigbee devices, for research purposes

austere patio
#

You'll likely need routers anyways if you plan on installing this lot of sensors in a large enough house so maybe try lightbulbs or something that plug into the wall

#

Anything on this list (https://zigbee.blakadder.com/zha.html) has been confirmed working by at least one person to the owner of that website. While it isn't exhaustive and accuracy is user-reported, it'll give you a reasonable place to start.

cedar coyote
#

By router you just mean devices placed around the house to help build the mesh?

austere patio
#

With a few rare exceptions, anything that's always powered, like a lightbulb

#

Sensors are asleep most of the time so they can't route messages for other devices

cedar coyote
#

How do i set what zigbee channel it runs on?

austere patio
#

No way to do it at the moment in ZHA without CLI tools

cedar coyote
#

Different from the zigby-znp reset you shared earlier?

austere patio
#

Same toolset

#

But if they joined previously on channel 15, they should continue joining on 15

#

And for the few devices that are picky about Zigbee channels, 15, 20, 25 are the safest picks to begin with for both that reason and because they sit between the common WiFi channels that would cause RF interference.

cedar coyote
#

Should I switch my wifi to channel 11 then? It's on 1 currently. Or stop worrying about it

austere patio
#

99% sure it's not WiFi

#

But WiFi handles channel changes better than Zigbee so it probably won't hurt the Zigbee side of things

cedar coyote
#

puddly, tube, thank you by the way.

graceful canopy
#

Half of my devices in my zigbee network have stopped working, how do I go about debugging this?

#

I am using zigbee2mqtt

sour shadow
#

Probably they're all connected through the same problem router device

#

Start by using the Z2M UI to check what's going on - look at the map and the logs too

graceful canopy
#

Map looks as expected only have two routers and tried unplugging both with no luck

#

Going to update coindinator firmware and repair devices see what happens

sour shadow
#

Only two routers? I hope that's a small/open space

noble bison
novel crown
noble bison
#

@novel crown Not really sure how. I have enabled discovery of new devices in zigbee, but normally you have to put a zigbee "device" in pairing mode which i don't know how to do for this one.

novel crown
#

Lets see and ask google. What is the device name? The NIC ist just the module on top of the meter, right?

#

It's probably done via the light interface thingy in some way and we kinda have to consult the docs of the meter I assume

noble bison
#

Yes, the NIC is used to transmit the data to the power company. The meter has the optical port as well. The meter model is a Landis + Gyr E350

novel crown
#

I can't find any info about the NIC you mentioned and this meter

#

meh, there isn't really any information available. I would go ahead and directly as silverspring. I assume a technican can only activate the pairing

mellow geode
#

Your USB coordinator arrived today, will test it out later 🎉

cursive bobcat
blissful adder
#

Hello everyone! I Have a question regarding Phoscon.
Should I do all the scenes/manageligns/schecurles... in Phoscon UI or you recommend I do it in HomeAssistant somewhere else?

ivory hound
blissful adder
#

Thanks HellCry

ivory hound
blissful adder
#

I am trying to find info on all this

#

I would like to make it simple for me... dont want to spend hours

cursive bobcat
# ivory hound use ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT

that's not a solution, all systems have their pro en con's, I'm staying with phoscon, works ok, not perfect, but ok, mqtt was a disaster on my mi flower sensors

sour shadow
#

Have you asked the folks over on the deCONZ Discord?

ivory hound
#

i know that sensor works very well on ZHA and on Zigbee2MQTT

#

i have them also

#

also this advice was given also becuse most ppl that come here with some issue is usually about deCONZ

cursive bobcat
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ok, thx for the advice, deconz is bad maintained, for me it's the best solution because it's clean, no gateways, no soldering, no flashing, no nothing, just put stick in, add deconz integration to ha, add lights, sensors and switches and go, it's the first sensor I've trouble with adding

jolly narwhal
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Z2M involves flashing a stick once every few months, or just flash it once then run it, the additional step is not calorie-killing 😄

ivory hound
jolly narwhal
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And if you must run it in an addon 🤢 that makes it as simple as deconz probably

ivory hound
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but appart of that you dont have to solder or so stuff

jolly narwhal
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but spinning up a second container somewhere to run z2m, that also is quite easy to maintain tbh

ivory hound
jolly narwhal
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not all people should automate their home either

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😄

ivory hound
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🙂

cursive bobcat
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the discussion for me is really not what's the best system, like I said, all three of them have pro's and con's, I just would like to get my mi light sensor working in deconz

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and I can get a docker running, deconz is running in a separate container from HA

ivory hound
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@cursive bobcat what you must understand from all this is: you need a level of knowledge to do a minimum amount tinkering for you to have a good smart home

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you can't have a good solution without tinkering a bit because there isn't one

jolly narwhal
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if you want a tinker free solution, buy a homey, and be at the will of developers or a cloud service shutdown

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had a technical inept friend of mine do that after asking me about HA, because "he had no time to tinker" but he has had nothing but problems 😄

ivory hound
jolly narwhal
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I'm just honest Shrug

ivory hound
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🙂

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@cursive bobcat the thing is we can not recommend you to go deCONZ way willingly

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but if you do

cursive bobcat
ivory hound
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all I can recommend is try to get the device added in deCONZ

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by that i mean ask devs to support device

jolly narwhal
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Interesting choice to keep the cameras in the cloud, that would be some of my most sensitive data and I would never have that in the cloud

ivory hound
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those are your solutions: go with a better system ZHA or z2mqtt (you cant go wrong with any of those) or add support for your sensor in deCONZ

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btw if you go with latter

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gl with it

cursive bobcat
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i've tried and after 6 months of waiting i gave up

ivory hound
cursive bobcat
ivory hound
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you trust google?

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our discution just ended here 🙂

sour shadow
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To take all the data and run 😛

ivory hound
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lol

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so true

jolly narwhal
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google already knows everything about me at all times, but I'm damned if I'm gonna share my video and pictures from surveilance with them

blissful adder
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LOL!

ivory hound
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this went wrong fast :))

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all it was needed was someone to say google

jolly narwhal
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I should get a mic blocking device at some point tbh, the one our government agencies use is nifty

cursive bobcat
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I've no problem with Google,, it's one eco system and they know everything about me, they yet have to abuse my trust by the way, they've never done that, but I'm aware they've lots of data on me and some data is backupped locally on my nas

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we're way off topic right now by the way 🙂

stark remnant
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Hi everyone, newbie here with a first-time setup to be done in around a week when my NUC arrives.
Before then I'd like to pickup some hardware here in the UK, to start with I was going to pick up a mixture of Ikea Tradfri bulbs, white and coloured and a Conbee II stick. I've taken these from a number of video / forum / blog suggestions that might be completely out of date.
Since then I've heard there can be issues with the Tradfri, and am also now considering smart dimmers for some rooms and bulbs for others where I want colour.
My questions are:
1 - are my choices still decent?
2 - are there better alternatives I should consider buying here in the UK?
3 - is there something I should have thought of / should start thinking about now when doing my first setup that may hamstring me later if I don't?

jolly narwhal
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Tradfri bulbs are great in my experience, some users have a lot of issues, I have 60+ of them and have never had issues

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the conbee is probably one of the worst choices for coordinator, look at TI-coordinators @stark remnant

obsidian sandalBOT
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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended, but there are other options. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended options being the Zig-Ah-Zig-Ah!, Slaesh's stick (though be aware of the well documented communication problems with the seller), Tube's CC2652P2 based coordinators and the TI Launch-XL boards. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

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