zigbee-archived

[grim igloo]

yep

[harsh mango]

cool, ty

[grim igloo]

if you run haos then the mosquito addon can use a haos user

[harsh mango]

i am using docker

[grim igloo]

so you can just make "mqtt-user" as a home assistant user and use that as a login for z2m

ok then yolo with mosquito container and a user

[harsh mango]

haha

[grim igloo]

same end result just more work

[low jacinth]

Guys, with say 20 devices (either aqara or sonoff), is the Aqara E1 or the Sonoff P good enough?

[harsh mango]

so far so good, but today when i plugged the dongle back into the pi, the z2m container didn't want to start because it "couldnt connect" to the dongle... it worked last night, but then when i plugged it back into the main ha server it complained that the config on the coordinator changed and I restored. that's what prompted me wanting another coordinator.

[grim igloo]

e1? is that some new stick supported by zha or z2m?

i think you're talking about a proprietary chinese hub which would be a no lol

[low jacinth]

I saw it on aliexpress, Aqara E1

[grim igloo]

https://www.aqara.com/us/product/hub-e1/ chyna dongle

[harsh mango]

I have the E and i do have some issues, though tbf idk if it is the ikea bulbs that are bad or the coordinator that is wonky. everything else seems to work great.

[low jacinth]

That's the one!

[grim igloo]

yep dont buy that

that'll work great if you want to use the aqara chinese cloud ecosystem instead of zigbee2mqtt or zha

please dont tho

[low jacinth]

I'm trying to be as basic as I can, i'm rennovating my house, planning to sell it

[harsh mango]

selling it with automation stuff????

[grim igloo]

man no one here will suggest you stand up home assistant and transfer it over

[harsh mango]

id personally avoid that.

[low jacinth]

Just to make it look pretty, then removing/dumping it

[harsh mango]

"the stuff you sold me ain't working" now you are lifetime tech support.

[low jacinth]

At the moment we have an alexa with light switches, that works great

[wild mortar]

you might run into issues with that, unless it's called out in the sales docs...

[harsh mango]

exactly. otherwise, "kiss" where you can hand it off and the user doesn't have to run a server.

[low jacinth]

It won't be in the sales docs, it's there, the light switches work as touch sensitive and that's it

[harsh mango]

showing the automation then dumping it seems dishonest imo

[low jacinth]

I'm interested in window/room sensors, nothing more than that

[harsh mango]

imagine owning a house in 2024

[low jacinth]

Not selling it as a smart home, it'll be removed before that

[harsh mango]

okay, well, back on topic .. imo the E dongle is fine.

as i personally use it.

[grim igloo]

he linked the E1 which is a totally different device not supported by zha/z2m btw

[low jacinth]

Is it a normal plug in to a pc and let HA find it?

[harsh mango]

ill give a link to be clear which i am referring to.

[low jacinth]

Awesome, thankyou mate

Used to work in IT infrastructure, but then quit the sector years ago, still playing catch up

[harsh mango]

https://a.co/d/0cmV7KbU

[harsh mango]

oo, well, it's always a catch up game. it's getting faster now. AI or get left behind lmao

and yeah it was mostly plug and play iirc.

[sour shadow]

Better: Buy Tube or SMLight sticks... the Sonoff is not the best

[grim igloo]

no lol ai is a tool you use

[harsh mango]

yes. use ai or get left behind.

[grim igloo]

for home assitant we are still on the cusp of a good ai system in my opinion. way too much manual intervention i.e. intents

[junior ridge]

Got a quick question, trying to figure out a possibility for an outdoor safe temperature humidity sensor, cheaper is better both because of budget and because higher risk of breakage, hopefully under 30 USD

Basically just something to pull ambient local conditions for calculating heat index and things like that

[grim igloo]

might end up with an inkbird bt im not sure of outdoor for zigbee

[junior ridge]

As it is I probably have to work out a case for it to keep direct sunlight off of it

[harsh mango]

if i move my zigbee usb coordinator from my HA install to z2m install, should all the devices still connect to the coordinator and kinda "just show up"?

[grim igloo]

there's a migration process

[harsh mango]

oo

[grim igloo]

oh wait

z2m to z2m?

with same config?

[harsh mango]

no

just default HA zigbee integration to z2m on the pi

[grim igloo]

that's called zha

[harsh mango]

ah, ty.

[grim igloo]

zha to z2m will be not fun

[junior ridge]

I couldn't find that on their website, but if I'm presuming that the BT means that it's Bluetooth, I'd rather avoid that because I don't have a passive Bluetooth setup and that would be a hell of a pain in the but just for one device

[grim igloo]

bluetooth can be added for liek $5-$10 btw

[junior ridge]

I do see if they make a lot of Wi-Fi stuff especially the meat thermometers, which could be a possibility

[harsh mango]

yeah then i have to reconnect devices, remake automations... ugh.

[sour shadow]

No, there's no migration. You start fresh

[grim igloo]

depends how you did them. if you automated with entities and rename the old device / entities to the same then nothing breaks

[junior ridge]

I suppose, but I'm also running HA container, so I'd have to deal with all the extra device porting into the docker and the extra coating from that, just not sure that it would be worth it

[grim igloo]

but also maybe you dont have to re-pair all- read the migration docs

[junior ridge]

Of course, I'm getting ready to replace a bunch of Tuya sensors with sonoff, so maybe I could just say screw it let these get broken

[grim igloo]

no you wouldn't you can buy a $7esp32 preflashed that can "proxy" bluetooth over wifi to home assistant with no direct connection

[grim igloo]

tuya is bottom of the barrel, sonoff is the rat standing on the other dead rats at the bottom of the barrel

[harsh mango]

so then what is top of the line?

i am guessing tube and smlite

[grim igloo]

anything hue wont disappoint, inovelli is good but seem to always fuck up firmware on new devices (and that could go on for months), third reality and innr are popular

[junior ridge]

Surprisingly enough I have not run into the problems so far that everyone keeps saying that brand has. The only real problems I've had are known feature limitations of the temperature sensor

[grim igloo]

nope just for coordinators

[harsh mango]

oh sensors. sorry.

[low jacinth]

Back! Dog needed a wee walk

[soft elk]

I bought on of the IKEA vindstyrka sensors but I can't get it to connect to my network (I have a sky connect) anyone know how to go about trouble shooting it?

[sour shadow]

Make sure that you've got the SkyConnect on an extension cable

Also try pairing via a nearby router

[soft elk]

ya its on an extension cable on a USB 2.0 port

tried doing near the router last week and nothing happened

[quartz cipher]

I just attempted to go through a Zigbee radio migration from ConBee II to SLZB06 and went through the Migrate radio wizard. Went all the way through and it said it was successful. But my ZHA integration is showing everything ConBee referenced still and no devices are working. I would of expected to see the SLZB06 referenced and everything working. Do you need to do a reboot of HA after? Remove the ZHA integration and readd\reset it up pointing to the slzb again?

[quartz cipher]

Uhg, not sure what to do now.

[molten linden]

Check logs, do you see any errors related to zha? Enable debug logging and reload zha, up load log to sharing site. Someone can take a look

[quartz cipher]

Is there a specific site to copy\paste\upload relevant logs?

[rapid dawn]

Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

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[quartz cipher]

I had a ConBee II setup via USB with everything working. Below is what that radio backup file looked like.

https://dpaste.org/LQPm2

I then went through the migrate radio process, said i was migrating to a new radio, ZNP, put in the socket address. Told it to do an automatic restore of everything. It finished, said all was completed. When looking at my ZHA integration, it still mentions everything USB\ConBee II as the device in the ZHA integration(mayne not important as i can just do a rename i guess). And when i click configure I see all the correct configured network settings on that screen (ZNP socket address, etc). Here is the radio file as of now. Looks like the IEEE address was carried over. Which is the same IEEE address that is showing in the SLZB06 interface for "Current IEEE address of the radio module". Which is different then its factory IEEE.

https://dpaste.org/1K5K6

Ive tried rebooting HAOS, reloading ZHA, restarting a bunch of my zigbee router devices, restart SLZB06. I can see the devices on my dashboard, but trying to toggle or use them HA says Failed to call service light/turn_on. Failed to send request: Expected SRSP response AF.DataRequestExt.Rsp(Status=<Status.SUCCESS: 0>), got AF.DataRequestExt.Rsp(Status=<Status.INVALID_PARAMETER: 2>)

This here seems to be the only relevant error im seeing in System logs with Zigbee.

https://dpaste.org/DJJrH

[quartz cipher]

Well that wasnt anywhere near seamless. But was able to get back to working. Right before I was about to say screw up and be redoing 60 devices fresh over the whole night, phew.

[silk vortex]

How do a start the ZHA pairing process in a automation or from a lovelace button card?

with z2m i can do ```yaml
type: grid
cards:

• show_name: true
  show_icon: true
  type: button
  tap_action:
  action: toggle
  entity: switch.zigbee2mqtt_bridge_permit_join

[forest cobalt]

Call the zha.permit service. https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha/#services

[silk vortex]

thanks a lot! how did i not find that when looking through zha services earlier ._.

[forest cobalt]

lol it was hiding from you

[silk vortex]

done :3 https://i.vgy.me/fN3rHs.png

[forest cobalt]

Looks good!

[silk vortex]

Failed to call service zha/permit. value must be at most 254 for dictionary value @ data['duration'] damn why is it restricted to such an arbitrary number

wanted to have both at 5 mins so its easier to remember

welp, 4.2 mins it is

also is there a event that gets fired when zha pairing starts/ends? wanted to make something similar to this: http://bin.christitus.com/imapafopix.less

[forest cobalt]

I don’t think there is. One way to attack this is to use a timer for the countdown and then trigger off that. So, create a script for the permit start and kick off a timer, then have an automation trigger off the timer finishing. Not elegant by any means, but it works.

[silk vortex]

i hoped atleast https://github.com/mdeweerd/zha-toolkit which is marketed towards devs and powerusers would have a event for that but apparently not. yeah i'll have to figure out smth else i think. potentially some log parsing 🤢

[silk vortex]

i had to make it a bit more complicated using a input_boolean http://bin.christitus.com/gatosapecu.yaml but now it works with this http://bin.christitus.com/vovihaditi.yaml and the button even turns yellow while pairing is in progress https://i.vgy.me/97OLiM.png

[forest cobalt]

Oh nice!!! Yeah, you said 4.2 minutes do delay. Perfect.

[junior ridge]

4.20 ... nice

[sour shadow]

tried doing near the router last week

[odd mango]

Hi. I was doing maintenance on my proxmox server: added one pci, one usb device. After restart, Z2M says usb stick not found. However I can find it on /dev: https://cloud.sutenas.com/index.php/s/TBMptWK6WTZM0AB

not sure where the problem is

[ashen bluff]

How did you give the device to Z2M?

[odd mango]

by-id

it's configure in addon options, alsl same specified in Z2M settings/serial:
port: /dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITead_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_62b6adc23139ec119b41e0680aac08d5-if00-port0

not sure what I am missing

[ashen bluff]

I'd try a reboot (not restart).

[odd mango]

hm, ok, will do a VM reboot

still the same...

[ashen bluff]

😦
Can you share the log?

[rapid dawn]

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[gritty nimbus]

Does someone know a bit about sonoff ? I have a dongle sonoff to connect devices with zigbee, but I'm unable to find this dongle's serial port. In the tuto, it says to go into integrations on HA then look for zigbee and then a few serial ports will be possible but I have nothing. It also says that I need to download a driver but there are many files in it, I just double-click on CP210xVCPInstaller_x64.exe, I don't know if I need to do something else... Or maybe I need to download the driver and then download HA. If someone knows about that !

[ashen bluff]

Where did you plug that stick into? How are you running HA?

[gritty nimbus]

my computer, Im running HA with a vm on virtualbox

[ashen bluff]

Did you pass the stick through to the VM?

[gritty nimbus]

How can I do that ?

[sour shadow]

https://www.google.com/search?q=virtualbox+pass+usb+to+guest

[odd mango]

here's the log after restart. https://pastebin.com/60ebqHTM
This time I don't get "device not found"

but nothing works

also had entires like this:
[2024-07-05 10:39:26] error: zh:controller:device: Read response to 0x847127fffe110d98 failed
[2024-07-05 10:39:32] error: zh:controller:device: Read response to 0xec1bbdfffe79ddf2 failed
[2024-07-05 10:39:32] error: zh:zstack:znp: Port error: Error: EIO: i/o error, write
[2024-07-05 10:39:32] error: z2m: Adapter disconnected, stopping

I also have a zwave, and that works

[ashen bluff]

I'd enable debug mode: https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/configuration/logging.html#debugging

[odd mango]

https://pastebin.com/uEuvTmp3

[ashen bluff]

https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt/issues/11890#issuecomment-1072525771

[odd mango]

hmmm

[ashen bluff]

Is it far away from USB 3 ports and connected via a USB cable?

[odd mango]

I've added 10G NIC. So I suspect that's my issue

[ashen bluff]

Also see here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHqZhNcFEvA

[odd mango]

thank you for helping to figure this out

[gritty nimbus]

Hi. i'm trying to add my sonoff dongle zigbee and a capter on ha. Im using virtualbox on a computer that has no internet. So I added a usb controller of the dongle in the settings of the vm, but when i try to add the integration on HA for the dongle, it doesn't find it so I need to add manually but I don't know how to do that, it propose nothing. Thanks to settings of my vm, I know that the port is "Cygnal Integrated Products, Inc. CP210x UART Bridge / myAVR mySmartUSB light [0100]" but when I put this, ofc it doesn't work I need to write differently. I also tried to add to HA my dongle and a capter but from a computer with internet and then clone it to put it on the other computer but since it's not the same port it doesn't work...

[raven jewel]

What kind of virtual machine are you using?

[flint sluice]

I have a shed which I am converting to an office at the back of my property (detached from the house).

Can I set up a second zigbee hub or do I have to run a second HA instance to cover the shed?

Note- the distance is too far to use repeaters to boost the signal.

[raven jewel]

Will you have a connection to your home network out there? I presume so as it's an office.

You could set up a small device running Zigbee2MQTT and just point the MQTT at HA

[flint sluice]

Yes, I ran a fiber line so I'd have internet out there. When you say "small device", could you clarify? Do you mean a second hub or something else?

[raven jewel]

Like a raspberry pi.

Something you can use as a server for services that you need out there. Like Z2M for example.

It doesn't have to be a small computer, I just thought smaller made sense 😉

[flint sluice]

Thank you for your help!

[sudden breach]

Hello everyone, I wonder if anybody could help me shed some light on my Z2M plugin running in docker via portainer?

Overall it works really well, except a regular (but no obvious pattern) of exiting with an error.

The error that is most common (I think the rest are a variation) is ENOSPC: no space left on device, write

I’ve googled it, but none of the results address the issue (there seems to be enough space).

Any suggestions?

[ionic locust]

Any idea why the sonoff motion sensor MS01 gets unresponsive every almost 1.5 days. I have 2 of them and they keep state as detected and then after few hours show as unresponsive until I set them up again.

Door sensors no issues

[quartz cipher]

Hey guys, ive migrated my radio in ZHA from ConBee II to SLZB06 the other night. It was less then pleasing to do. After i finally got what i thought everything working again. It seems like alot of my aqar zigbee stuff is intermittently working. Like buttons, motion sensors, water sensors, etc. Its like theyre alive and communicateable, then they go dead. Ive decided to just reset the devices and repair them in HA and reconfigure to attempt to solve. But now on some of them im seeing really strange (i think?) behavior. I would of thought if i removed a zigbee device from HA, then did a reset\repair mode on the device and repaired it, even giving it the same name as before, it basically would of came back into HA like a new device. On one device that happened. But now on two other devices, even when i remove them, and readd them, even giving them a different name, they come in, but everything is still attached to them??? Like automations, etc. Even when i do a reset on the device, then click the button, its still triggering automations???

I see these types of errors in the logs.

Logger: zigpy.application
Source: runner.py:190

Received relays from an unknown device: 0x4830
Unknown device AddrModeAddress(addr_mode=<AddrMode.NWK: 2>, address=0x4830)
Unknown device AddrModeAddress(addr_mode=<AddrMode.NWK: 2>, address=0x6F37)

Logger: homeassistant.components.recorder.table_managers.statistics_meta
Source: components/recorder/table_managers/statistics_meta.py:312
integration: Recorder (documentation, issues)

Cannot rename statistic_id sensor.lumi_lumi_sensor_motion_aq2_device_temperature to sensor.foyer_motion_sensor_device_temperature because the new statistic_id is already in use
Cannot rename statistic_id sensor.lumi_lumi_sensor_motion_aq2_illuminance to sensor.foyer_motion_sensor_illuminance because the new statistic_id is already in use
Cannot rename statistic_id sensor.lumi_lumi_remote_b1acn01_battery to sensor.foyer_table_lamp_button_battery because the new statistic_id is already in use
Cannot rename statistic_id sensor.foyer_table_lamp_button_1_battery to sensor.foyer_table_lamp_button_battery because the new statistic_id is already in use

[latent fiber]

Hey all, just installed 5 of these zigbee dimmers from ali express, I tested one before ordering lots and it worked well now I have 5 setup (10 different dimming circuits) they are pretty flakey. Firstly they seem very sensitive to electrical interference, causing slow flickering depending on how many are turned on etc. I changed the power to a different source and it improved a lot but still flicker occasionally. Now when I set all of them to a specific brightness each time atleast one goes to a random brightness

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006832261783.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.71.7d9c18025nMJm8

Are these just duds? or is this something I could possibly fix?

[sullen shore]

What are my options for 3 way switches? The way i have it wired in my house is not the same as in the manual or videos 😦

[grim igloo]

usa?

[sullen shore]

Yes

[grim igloo]

if zigbee then inovelli blue is the only switch i'd buy

even if there's no traveler wire you can control with home assistant

[sullen shore]

It is not a standar 3 way setup for whatever reason..

There is a traveler

[grim igloo]

https://help.inovelli.com/en/articles/8210030-blue-series-2-1-switch-wiring-schematics

make sure it fits the bill then

[sullen shore]

Oh that site is helpful for sure. What makes the inovrlli stand out, besided quality

[grim igloo]

sex appeal but mostly the fact that they're the only non-chinese designed and manufactured zigbee switch for usa

[sullen shore]

Sorry i just noticed that is a switch, i cant replace my switch (its in a plate with s bunch more)

[grim igloo]

you can get away with cheaper zwave light switches like zooz which i have, but i hear the inovelli blue zigbee ones have a bit of a nicer feel to them

[grim igloo]

sure you can

[sullen shore]

Could it be done with a zigbee relay

[grim igloo]

i dont liek stuffing things into walls i will let someone else jump in

the ability to use a smart switch to tap/multi tap/hold/long hold etc outweighs the ability to use your own switch and stuff a thing in a wall to me

[sullen shore]

Ugh cant post links or pictures. I have a 4 gang toggle wall plate

I'd love to get rid of it but in that 4 gang ai have 3 individusl lights and the two way one

[carmine hamlet]

Do you mean two switches in a vertical box?

Each switch is separate. Replace the ones you want

[sullen shore]

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Leviton-White-4-Gang-Toggle-Wall-Plate-1-Pack-80712-W/301647762

[carmine hamlet]

And you don't want to replace one with a decora switch?

I would just replace all of them with decora

[sullen shore]

Can you link me one

[carmine hamlet]

Just like the Innoveli link

[sullen shore]

4 of those wont fit

[carmine hamlet]

They make regular dumb switches like that

Sure they will

They're no wider

I swapped out all the switches in my house

They're designed to be a drop in replacement

Get a new faceplate

[sullen shore]

You are saying they are the same size as this? https://www.walmart.com/ip/412985009

[carmine hamlet]

Yes

It seems like you haven't ever taken off a switch faceplate

[sullen shore]

Uh you might get me to replace a bunch whole of switched lol

I have. I have a bunch of sonoff mini controlling single switches

Those rocker seemed bigger

I havent seen those in person to be fair

[carmine hamlet]

They will fit. They're designed to

[sullen shore]

So i just swap the face plate and replace my switches with 4 rocker

[carmine hamlet]

Yes

[sullen shore]

Might need something 'cheaper' those inovelli are 50 a pop

[carmine hamlet]

Ok

In the US, switches are switches. They are interchangeable.

The only issue can be the depth of the box, which can make it difficult to cram them in

[sullen shore]

That might happen, i currently have 3 zigbee mini crammed into one..

[carmine hamlet]

You can replace the box itself if you want

I just cram them in there

[sullen shore]

3 sonoff mini**

[sullen shore]

These look much nicer tho

[carmine hamlet]

You get what you pay for

I have like 60 of them

[sullen shore]

Might try leviton, they are half the price

These light bulbs are not dimmable but these switches are. They could damage the bulb if dimmed right

[sudden breach]

Error: ENOSPC: no space left on device, write
at Object.writeSync (node:fs:929:3)
at Object.writeFileSync (node:fs:2328:26)
at Database.write (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/controller/database.ts:85:12)
at Controller.databaseSave (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/controller/controller.ts:338:23)
at Timeout._onTimeout (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/controller/controller.ts:198:57)
at listOnTimeout (node:internal/timers:569:17)
at processTimers (node:internal/timers:512:7)

[rich wyvern]

I just moved and am looking to (re)build Zigbee-based home automation from scratch. Lots of end point devices I'm happy to re-use, but going from a wide apartment layout to an Amsterdam-style tall & thin house I would like to swap out my Conbee2 stick for a SMLIGHT POE adapter - more easily placed at the midpoint of the stairwell.

My concern revolves around my wanting to eventually add ZGP buttons to the mix as well. I realize support is not there from a software perspective, but since I am making the adapter purchase decision now, I would like to make sure that at least that hardware is not going to eventually stand in the way of things.

So I am looking at SLZB-06 vs. SLZB-06M and from the onset it seems the non-M is the choice option, seeing as I would prefer the decoupling offered by z2m - having quite enjoyed the same with deConz. However murmers in the corners of the interwebs sowed some doubt that perhaps the CC2652 at the base of the non-M adapter is not a good choice for ZGP support. Should that be the case, I would prefer to deal with some initial alpha-ness of the EFR32-based M variant. But should the concern be unfounded, the tried & tested CC2652 would ofc. be preferable.

I would really appreciate any insight you might have to share.

[hollow echo]

Is it my setup or did zigbee break after latest 2024.7.1 update?

[weak totem]

with a zigbee smart plug, if i want to set a sleep timer to shut it off, do i need to have the home assistant server running or does it save locally to the plug itself the way a wifi smart plug seems to do?

[vital ermine]

every now and then i get a firmwareupdate notification for a INNR light bulb. I got many bulbs but only receiving for this particular one... Clicking upgrade gets me a service-call error:
https://imgur.com/a/OUVJEsh

[ashen bluff]

HA is supposed to run 24/7. SOme zigbee devices like thermostats can store data like this but I'm not sure if there#s plugs that do this.

[vital ermine]

can i A. fix this or B disable this. Its annoying

[weak totem]

ya thats wha ti am wondering, otherwise i will be forced to buy a wifi plug to do this particular thing.. unless i can find a much smaller device to run my HA 24/7 because while the n100 i got now is great, i dont want to run it 24/7 as i would say maybe a rpi or something?

[ashen bluff]

Check the (debug) logs. It's a good idea to temporarily switch to english when sharing GUI pictures

[ashen bluff]

Why? Does the power consumption hurt you that much? They can get down to 4-8W.

[weak totem]

well its has a fan, and i dont think running long term, it will be able to last.. i have had rpi before and while they do have a fan usually, they are very tiny and made to run 24/7

[ashen bluff]

I really would not worry about that.

Really weird that you'd rather buy a new plug rather than a new fan if it would die which I doubt.

[weak totem]

actually i rather do neither (which i probably wont do either) i am just trying to find a solution for a sleep timer for my tv which it has built in for 2 hours but i need something much longer and the damn google tv assistant is not cooperating, i never knew a tv sleep timer was such a complicated issue till yesterday lol

[forest cobalt]

ZHA did not break in the latest version. What problems are you having?

[hollow echo]

All devices stopped working.

Unable te repair. Nothing.. just stopped working after the update. Really frustrating I have over 35+ devices

[forest cobalt]

Anything in the log files?

[hollow echo]

Something with Mac adresss failure

[hollow echo]

No clue what changed but it’s working again out of thin air.

[austere patio]

That would be a channel access failure

You have too much RF interference and the radio can't send data. Move your coordinator into a USB extension cable and away from SSDs and USB 3.0 ports

[hollow echo]

That is already the case.. it was working fine for the past 2 years

[quartz cipher]

Guys. Im trying to start fresh since ive been having weird issues since my ZHA ConBee II to SLZB migration over the past week. Devices intermittently arent working. Decided ill take this opportunity to clean house and try Zigbee2mqtt vs ZHA over the past 3 years. Would these steps make sense in order for me to start as clean as possible without any sort of weirdness still being left in HA or Zigbees world?

0. Document rooms and Zigbee devices in my house.
1. Export list of all Zigbee\ZHA device names in HA.
2. Power off all Zigbee router devices in house(smart bulbs, smart plugs, TubezRepeater, etc).
3. Remove all ZHA devices in HA.
4. Remove ZHA integration.
5. Factory reset SLZB06 coordinator.
6. Get SLZB06 coordinator configured to my liking.
7. Install Zigbee2MQTT & MQTT & configure.
8. Start pairing devices and naming them what they all were previously, for familiarly and automation fixing sake.

[strange charm]

connected to lan ? or usb ? @quartz cipher

[quartz cipher]

LAN. Thats why I got it, to go from USB ConBeeII to POE SLZB

[strange charm]

i had the same issues after migrating. After blocking all other vlans on the port where the SLZ was connected fixed it for me

[quartz cipher]

hmmmm you using ubiquiti gear?

[strange charm]

yup

[quartz cipher]

LOL, omg if youre the guy i needed to talk to im gonna be so happy and so mad at the same time. Let me give you my run down on whats happening to get me smarter here.

[strange charm]

happy to listen and perhaps help

after days of frustration of it not working 😀

[quartz cipher]

So i was using Conbee II USB and i wanted to migrate to slzb LAN. So basically i did the migrate radio function thinking it would all be seamless and it was lack of. After doing 100 diff things which i think what ultimately got my devices working at all after hte migration was doing a migration again, and just saying reconfigure and reuploading my manual radio backup file i did before the migration. Not sure what that did different compared to telling the wizard to restore the automatic backup itsself when i did the process, but whatever. After everything looked normal i noticed alot of my devices werent working(mainly what seemed like Aqara buttons and senors, light bulbs and other stuff was fine). It seemed like if i used HA dashboard directly and toggled a light bulb it would work 9\10. But if i tried to use a zigbee button i had it wouldnt do anything. THen an hour later it would be working. Then i realized even using the HA dashboard id get some immediate zigbee error. If I rebooted the SLZB though then its like everything was working right away, then intermittently some stuff would stop.

Because now i started thinking, is my damn brand new slzb just broken? Why would manually rebooting that seem to get everything else working immediately atleast temporarily? Anyway, thats where I am now and after waking up this morning i was asking myself why do i even put my self through all this when the Conbee II Was working jsut fine LOL. Now i find you! Perhaps the person i needed the whole time to tell me the secret sauce. So anyway, im defintely willing to try what youre saying. Youre saying on the port, for tagged vlan management, choose Block All then?

[strange charm]

Yes. i did that blocking tagged vlan traffic and block all on. Making sure the SLZB and your zigbee2mqtt are in the same vlan ofcourse. and i went back to the Firmware version: 20231030 Zigbee radio version. Because of errors i got in the 20240510 firmware.

Current core firmware version: v2.3.6

[quartz cipher]

Ok, were all on the same page then. but for Zigbee firmware im on Your current firmware revision: 20240315

[strange charm]

i would try that firware first. You can always go back

LOL ... tried them all before the blocking part.

[quartz cipher]

I dont even see your firmware in the list. What slzb variant do you have?

[strange charm]

6 M

[quartz cipher]

Ahhh yea i have the normal, not matter one

[strange charm]

SLZB-06M

i didn't dare touching on the matter part. House becomes "dumb" without zigbee working

ow

and i set ip static in the SLBZ. no reservation in ubiquity

[river sapphire]

Following up on the group binding issue I was having with an Aurora dimmer switch, I just tried out a Hue Tap&Dial and it bound perfectly to the Z2M group 😁

[austere patio]

Radio migration migrates just your network settings. If some devices work, it was 100% successful. It's likely that in addition to migrating your coordinator you also moved your coordinator across the house. If you had Aqara sensors that were children of the coordinator, they are likely still trying to communicate with what they think is their parent: your coordinator. If it's across the house but just barely audible, they'll still keep trying to talk to it, unfortunately. You will have to re-join them to your network via a nearby parent router.

[quartz cipher]

Coordinator is in same spot, just went from USB to PoE type. The only thing that has changed that i noticed is the channel was 15 with my usb and when i did the migration to the slzb it references 20 now.

THe situation is lets say i have 5 button, each one simply toggles a light bulb. Button 1,2 may work right now, but 3,4 isnt, then 30 mkins later i try them all again and maybe they all work, maybe only 1 isnt, maybe none work, its all random and intermittent.

[austere patio]

The channel definitely should not have changed 🤔

[quartz cipher]

Think its worth manually changing it back to 15 then in ZHA?

[austere patio]

Yeah, I would do that

[quartz cipher]

I only diidnt try that yet cause it basically said it was "tempermental" to do so

[austere patio]

It's hit or miss if you have Aqara devices. Other stuff is usually fine

[quartz cipher]

Ok, well at this point id rather feel comfortable that my steup is "clean" and working. Meaning i dont mind spending the day repairing everything new. And would give me a chance to move to zigbee2mqtt and try that out. With that being said. Do my steps above seem like a clean way to basically set all this up like it was new?

Document rooms and Zigbee devices in my house.
Export list of all Zigbee\ZHA device names in HA.
Power off all Zigbee router devices in house(smart bulbs, smart plugs, TubezRepeater, etc).
Remove all ZHA devices in HA.
Remove ZHA integration.
Factory reset SLZB06 coordinator.
Get SLZB06 coordinator configured to my liking.
Install Zigbee2MQTT & MQTT & configure.
Start pairing devices and naming them what they all were previously, for familiarly and automation fixing sake.

[austere patio]

I would first try the channel migration back to 15. It's a single button click and waiting for half an hour for end devices to rejoin. If that works, then you know your new coordinator will work fine. If not, you can start looking at ways to optimize the connections between your Aqara devices and their parent routers.

[topaz tendon]

I'm considering Inovelli Blue switches for a new (to me) house. I'm pretty sure the electrical wiring in that place predates the American Civil War, so no neutral wires. Would I be able to use the light switches for basic on/off/dimmer functions and have them in Home Assistant via the SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 Plus-E dongle?

Also it seems that their Aux switches for the multi-way setups are sold out everywhere. From what I understand, those are simply dumb switches with some extra bells and whistles. What alternatives are there for those?

[grim igloo]

Can’t they be paired with a second blue or third etc for multi way setups?

[grim igloo]

Yes a sonoff e dongle would should fine that’s your cheapest option on Amazon I think. I prefer PoE zigbee coordinators like tubes

[topaz tendon]

According to the manual that requires a neutral wire, while pairing with an Aux switch does not.

[grim obsidian]

i'm trying to figure out why my zigbee Aqara Contact sensor isn't working. My mesh should be fine, my coordinator is 10ft away in the same room, and a zigbee repeater (about 10ft on the opposite side) all show fine. I replaced the battery, and nothing. It's been down for about 2 months, so not something that happened this past week.

Any thoughts on what I should test/try?

I'm using ZHA

[mellow geode]

Did you try to "add device" again in ZHA and reset the sensor during that?

[formal kestrel]

Thankfully I don't have much devices. So the question is can i migrate from ZHA to Z2M with just one coordinator or do I have to buy another for that reason? Because as I mentioned I'm going to get the soil moisture measurement tool and It needs blue proxy which to my understanding works on Z2M. So that's where I am at.

[raven jewel]

BLE proxy has nothing to do with Zigbee, or Zigbee2Mqtt

[sudden breach]

Anybody? Happened again

[raven jewel]

This is more of a docker issue than an Zigbee2MQTT issue.

• You said there's space left on the device, but is there space in /var?
• How did you map the storage for Z2M?
• Have you run docker system prune recently? (https://docs.docker.com/reference/cli/docker/system/prune/)

[harsh mango]

set up z2m with sonoff E conductor. i put it in join mode, set my button to join mode, but nothing shows up in the list. what might I be missing?

nvm fixed it.

[sudden breach]

Thanks! Obviously ideally I’d run the command just before it crashes, but immediately after crash and sometime after restart, /var is at 15%.

Z2M is mapped to physical folders on the drive.

I had done prune recently, and when looking at the problem previously myself. Short of deleting unused images it’s had no input - not a lot of pruning.

I suspect its a temp folder that fills up somewhere, but I don’t know which one or how - because every time I check the results are the same

[raven jewel]

docker prune -a is also a good idea, make sure it gets all the unused things, not just dangling ones.

[harsh mango]

joined my button to z2m, but it is "disabled"? I don't see a way to enable either..

[sudden breach]

Thanks. Had done it. The problem still recurs

[harsh mango]

fixed this too. but now it doesn't show any attributes (button press, double press, long press) just shows something about temperature(?) with no value

[grim obsidian]

Thanks, that did it

[harsh mango]

Figured this out after I got back home. Google says I have to press the actions at least once (single/double click, click+hold) to make them show up so I can use them. Works now. This is exciting.

Hopefully I don't have problems with bulbs.

[rich wyvern]

Oh hey do you happen to know if the chip in that unit supports Zigbee Green Power? I'm trying to make a purchase decision between SLZB-06 vs. SLZB-06M and want to make sure I don't lock myself out of eventual ZGP support.

[rich wyvern]

Duh. Just realized I should have sent off a pre-purchase support question to SMLIGHT as well. Will notify here when I hear back.

[outer kraken]

Hi everyone, I got some issues with my ZigBee devices as of the last update of z2m a few days ago:

The main problem for me is, that the devices are not shown any longer in HA, it shows "entity not available" instead.

In z2m dashboard it shows all devices.

In the add-on log it shows an error for some devices only:

Zigbee2MQTT:error 2024-07-07 11:25:28: Failed to configure 'Heizung Wohnzimmer', attempt 1 (Error: Bind 0xcc86ecfffec3b795/1 genBasic from '0x00124b0026b87735/1' failed (AREQ - ZDO - bindRsp after 10000ms)
    at Timeout._onTimeout (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/dist/utils/waitress.js:46:35)
    at listOnTimeout (internal/timers.js:554:17)
    at processTimers (internal/timers.js:497:7))

Right after the update I had the issue that the usb port was wrong, and I updated to the by-id format. This issue is there since then...

Anyone got any ideas how to solve it? Unfortunately I didn't find any help on the GitHub issues or forums

I searched in this thread and found the tip to reconfigure the devices, but that gives me an error as well. I fear there is something messed up underneath

[rich wyvern]

Quick response from SMLIGHT re: Zigbee Green Power support: "Currently, EFR32 with its firmware supports GP, while Texas Instruments CC2652x does not.

SLZB-06M is based on the EFR32 chip. SLZB-06/06p7 are based on CC2652x chips."

So it is definitely as I suspected.

[rich wyvern]

This might be worth a pin in here.

[outer kraken]

How do I fix the ZigBee devices not being updated to HA? All devices are not available

[quartz cipher]

Where does Zigbee green power come into play? Tons of adopting using that? Can the 06 still talk with the device just not benefit the lower power capabilities or it cant leverage the device at all?

[austere patio]

ZGP is used mainly for energy harvesting/batteryless buttons. It's a completely separate protocol. I don't think you need coordinator support to use it, however, it just means that you need a router on your network that can talk to the green power device and translate its messages into "normal" Zigbee (most 3.0 devices can).

[rich wyvern]

See above. Also absolutely not tons of adoption - it is still a fairly new protocol. However seeing as I was buying a new coordinator anyway, I wanted to make sure it would not stand in the way of eventual support or have to rely on additional hardware for it. I don't have ZGB buttons yet (generally they are quite expensive unless you DIY it), but do plan on adding some to my setup in the not too distant future.

[quartz cipher]

Does it make sense when setting up a a new instance of a zigbee network. Starting from the coordinator, work out in a radius, pairing router type devices first, then come abck and do all your battery devices

[outer kraken]

I would really appreciate any help here...

[outer kraken]

It seems the devices do exist but the naming changed?

Name before was:
binary_sensor.bewegung_flur_occupancy

Now it is:
binary_sensor.bewegung_flur_bewegung_flur_occupancy

So the name of the device is put into the attribute as well?

Is there a way to change this back?

[raven jewel]

It doesn't have to be, you can rename it

[outer kraken]

How?

Do you know why this happened?

[raven jewel]

I guess you renamed the device. But you can edit any entity by clicking on it and then change the ID

[outer kraken]

Well I didn't do it on purpose.all my devices are renamed just since the last update

In the z2m dashboard?

[raven jewel]

Renaming the entities can only happen from within Home Assistant.

But if you renamed the devices in Z2M, that might explain some of it.

[fallen forum]

there's a checkbox to rename in HA too when you rename in Z2M

or toggle maybe

[glacial oxide]

I have an Philipp SML002 motion sensor making problemlos....
Weeks ago I had a Sonoff zigbee 3 dongle running on HA, everything worked without problems, now I have switched to a Sky-Connect, completely new installation on a RPi5, no backup restored, no zigbee migration, since then the Philipp SML002 has been causing problems, it is always unavailable, regardless of where I place it, directly at the coordinator, or somewhere in the mesh, always unavailable, multiple resets, no changes, of course the battery has already been replaced. Does anyone have any ideas.

[outer kraken]

Again: it happened to all properties of all devices. I didn't do this manually.

I can fix it bY renaming ever single entity, that would be 70 times..

The rename stuff I just checked, it doesn't work it gives me an error that the name is already in use...

[fallen forum]

maybe roll back to a backup

[outer kraken]

That would be an idea

But that also refers the last z2m update doesn't it?

[outer kraken]

With an old backup I got it working after creating a new user for z2m. I don't know how this broke.
Thx anyway

[harsh mango]

been messing with z2m and things are going well except for transitions. if i set transition time in HA automation, the light just turns on instantly.

If I set transition times in z2m and toggle the lights, they instantly turn on, but transition off.

Transitions seem to work "fine" in zha.

Any thoughts?

[mellow geode]

(Zigbee) transitions aren't easy to implement perfectly. Does it make a difference if you provide a brightness in the same turn_on call with the transition?

Also, what light bulb model are you using?

[harsh mango]

I am specifying the brightness and transition values, yes.

[harsh mango]

They are the ikea bulbs. getting model now.

TRADFRIbulbE26WSglobeopal1100lm

[mellow geode]

Ah yeah, IKEA bulbs have issues with transitions, so Z2M disables them partly

[harsh mango]

hmm

[mellow geode]

I think ZHA currently doesn’t do it correctly, but it doesn’t affect all bulb models

[harsh mango]

I know there are issues (where if I transition them to off, they will appear "on" hours later without actually being on) but otherwise it's functional via zha

[mellow geode]

Uh, that shouldn’t happen

[harsh mango]

😄 exactly.

it's sporadic when it happens, but it "works"

regardless, through z2m, the bulbs transition into the off state, but instant on. It's strange.

I wish I could fix it, but if it's not fixable it's not the end of the world right now. I am not exactly happy with zigbee overall, and am looking to transition to zwave eventually.

I have a zwave dongle and a few outlets, might test with a few bulbs or whatever (if zwave bulbs exist? maybe I need in-wall light switches? idk, didn't research too much tbh)

[harsh mango]

what zigbee bulbs don't have problems with transitions? May give one or two a try. idk yet.

[mellow geode]

Philips Hue definitely works, I think most other brands like Innr should too

Tuya maybe not so much

[harsh mango]

oh, all expensive stuff 😄

oh oh oh! is there an "easy" way to control a pull chain ceiling fan wiht zigbee? (chains change their settings on the ceiling fan itself)

[wild mortar]

basically most fan controllers depend on the chain being set to the fastest setting, and the switch or canopy controller just send more or less "power" to control the speed

[harsh mango]

hm, idk that it's possible to do that in my apartment unfortunately.

[wild mortar]

yeah you'd have to change the actual switch or open up the fan canopy and change out the fan remote module (in your case the switch)

[harsh mango]

hmm

What would the zigbee module be called?

[wild mortar]

https://inovelli.com/collections/smart-home/products/blue-series-fan-switch-zigbee-3-0

other brands have versions of this

[harsh mango]

sweet, thanks!

ohh, switch

the electric goes straight to the fan, no wall switch, chain only.

[wild mortar]

You can open the canopy of the fan, you may be able to use this: https://inovelli.com/products/zigbee-blue-series-smart-fan-light-canopy-module?pr_prod_strat=pinned&pr_rec_id=f1f6698bb&pr_rec_pid=8301876740261&pr_ref_pid=8111778398373&pr_seq=uniform

typically you'd use these if the fan was controlled via a remote, but it may apply here.

[harsh mango]

okay thanks again. I have to research if it's viable! 😄

May just have to hold off, or maybe get little fans to help circulate or something.

idk how long I'll be in this apartment.

[wild mortar]

It does seem a bit weird that there is no switch to control power to the fan in addition to the pull chains.

[harsh mango]

yeah, older apartment building.

[wild mortar]

but apartments can be weird

[harsh mango]

maybe I'll just have to ... automate the hvac fan instead.

I already have the ecobee fan on 15 min per hour, but the air quality still gets pretty poor over time.

[wild mortar]

there's an interesting conversation in hardware right now about air purifiers that may apply

[harsh mango]

hmm, just a thought off the top of my head-- is there a zigbee MOLD/MILDEW sensor? Not just AQI/VOC

[wild mortar]

#hardware-archived message

[harsh mango]

actually using 3 air purifiers too.

[wild mortar]

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/mold_indicator/

[harsh mango]

hmm, that's not quite what I imagined, though I suppose a warning is better than nothing.

[wild mortar]

yeah I'm not sure otherwise

[harsh mango]

hmm

I know hvacs vary a lot, but, do you know if just running the fan is generally a lot of electric use?

(compared to running it on heat/cool)

[wild mortar]

I know on my system it's not, but yeah you're right-- can vary a lot

[harsh mango]

because if running the fan is like, 10-20% of the energy usage, then it makes sense for me to use it more frequently.

[harsh mango]

what is your estimated % of energy as compared to heat/cool?

[wild mortar]

heat it's <5% because I'm using natural gas for heating.

haven't bothered to break it out for cooling.

[harsh mango]

ah okay

[wild mortar]

https://diy.stackexchange.com/questions/21090/how-much-energy-will-continuously-running-a-furnace-fan-use

[harsh mango]

ty

[gritty nimbus]

virtual box

Hi. I'm trying to add my sonoff dongle zigbee and a capter on ha. I'm using virtualbox on a computer that has no internet. So I added a usb controller of the dongle in the settings of the VM, but when i try to add the integration on HA for the dongle, it doesn't find it so I need to add it manually but I don't know how to do that, it proposes nothing. Thanks to the settings of my vm, I know that the port is "Cygnal Integrated Products, Inc. CP210x UART Bridge / myAVR mySmartUSB light [0100]" but when I put this, ofc it doesn't work I need to write differently. I also tried to add to HA my dongle and a capter but from a computer with internet and then clone it to put it on the other computer but since it's not the same port it doesn't work... Any suggestions ?

[raven jewel]

There was zero need to re-post when you'd just replied to a message trying to help you with your problem.

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha/#configuration---gui
If you go to Settings > System > Hardware > dot menu > All Hardware, what do you see?

[gritty nimbus]

ok I can see the sonoff dongle, I will copy and paste the port, thanx a lot 🙌 now it's "loading next step for zigbee home automation" it's taking a lot of times i hope it will work...

[gritty nimbus]

yeah it doesnt work, it takes too much time and then say " error" 😩

[sweet imp]

Hi Everyone, would you know why couple of my Sonoff SNZB-03 motion sensors exhibit an issue? They were fine for over a couple of months and now going offline but the battery says 100%.

[sour shadow]

Try replacing the battery

Yes Merlin, battery reporting is often not very accurate 😉

Also, Sonoff's end devices are well known for this behaviour

[dusky flint]

I know 🙂 Same with IKEA devices (or most devices I assume)

[wanton fractal]

Hi, anyone here that uses Ikea E14 lights and ZHA. I have a problem if i or HA by some reason turns off a Ikea E14 with transition on and bulb already being off, if goes on IRL but only IRL as its seen in HA as off. Would be nice if someone could test below so i know im not the only one:
when light already off

service: light.turn_off
data:
  transition: 3
target:
  entity_id: light.your_ikea_e14_bulb

[rapid dawn]

@wanton fractal To format your text as code, enter three backticks on the first line, press Enter for a new line, paste your code, press Enter again for another new line, and lastly three more backticks.
```yaml
example: here
```
Don't forget you can edit your post rather than repeatedly posting the same thing.

[sweet imp]

ok, thanks so it seems the battery that was in Sonoff originally was drained already

[quartz cipher]

I been using 3 of them for about 6 months now without issue. The whole time i was using a conbee II stick as my coordinator. It seems like as soon as i migrated radios to a SLZB ive been having issues throughout my entire zigbee network with random devices. But (coicidently?) 2 of the t1ms have been turning on randomly. It seems to me that it looks more like a power loss\reset as when they turn on it has the default values in that case. Did you end up learing anything else?

[muted meteor]

Hey. So, I sent it back and got a replacement. When the replacement arrived, I did some digging and noticed my earth lead was flapping and was ~100V (UK, 240V mains), I grounded the flapping earth wire and fitted the new light and I've not had any issues since. Sadly, there were two variables so I don't know which was the cause, but I'd wager the wiring was the cause in my case.

I'm using SkyConnect (ZBT-1)

@quartz cipher

[quartz cipher]

Ahhh, so youre that guy on the HA forum, with your scientific approach! 😛 I will have to double check my wiring i guess, but find it odd two separate lights would encounter that situation randomly at the same time.

[muted meteor]

Ha, I'm an (Electronic) Engineer, so I take scientific method seriously 🤣

[quartz cipher]

WHat coordinator and zigbee integration are you using?

Nvm, just saw your answers above

[muted meteor]

I'm using ZHA (the integrated/default HA one)

[quartz cipher]

Gotcha, ok.

[muted meteor]

but, I unpaired the first light entirely from any ZigBee network and it still came on by itself, so I'm sure it's not a software issue

and my new/working light is NOT on the latest firmware; i've kept it on the older one to be sure the firmware isn't the issue either

it's been fitted for a week or some now and hasn't come on by itself

[quartz cipher]

Wait....how would it of still been coming back on randomly if it wasnt zigbee managed at all? You would of then had to of cut the power off to it completely, it wihch it would of been impossible to come on...

Unles youre saying you gave it hard power, then turned it off using ZHA\HA. THen removed the device from ZHA?

[muted meteor]

Yeah, so I have a physical light switch, I left that turned on; turned the light off using Home Assistant, then deleted it from my ZigBee network; few hours later, it was on again

[quartz cipher]

I wonder even in that scenario though, if the coordinator is still able to send packets\communication to that device since it was paired? In other words, does removing it from ZHA actually break\disassociate that device from the zigbee network entirely or does the coordinator still know of it? (my lack of full understanding zigbee protocol)

[muted meteor]

theoretically, the light should be back in the "pairing" state, but I didn't check to be honest

as soon as I saw the light back on after that, I took it down and returned it, before I had a chance to test any more

[quartz cipher]

Thats interesting. I tohught you had to always perform a reset procedure on each device to get into pairing mode

I am over being jolted awake at 2am though because the lights coming on LOL. Making me think the power went out or something

[muted meteor]

I might be wrong/mixing it upwith Z-Wave so don't take my word for it; hopefully someone else here knows better

Yeah, its a bright light and it can be quite annoying at night

[austere patio]

It's not unheard of for lights to have two unfortunate problems:

1. The firmware crashes, causing the light to reboot.
2. The light has no configurable power-on behavior so it just turns on to full brightness after the crash.

[muted meteor]

The second one is certainly an issue; the default power on behaviour for this light is "always on", from what I've read, it can be set if you're using an Aqara hub, but no way to do it in HA at present.

[austere patio]

Actually, which light is this?

[muted meteor]

Aqara T1M

[austere patio]

Ahhh. That light hard crashes every time we broadcast an OTA update check in notification, about once every 4 hours (though it depends on the size of your network)

No other device I've ever seen does this ☹️

[muted meteor]

Interesting. I've not had an issue with the new one since I had it replaced.

This new one has been connected to an Aqara hub though, which the old one never was; the UK distributor send me a free hub so that I can update the firmware in case there are issues in the future

it's not currently connected to one, and I didn't change any settings or update the firmware when it was connected

[austere patio]

It's definitely a (critical) firmware bug so it's probably fixed in the newer version

[muted meteor]

The other guys on the forum that were seeing the same issue were already running the latest firmware and it hasn't solved anything

since mine hasn't given me an issue since i fixed my wiring and got a new light, I imagine there is more than one issue at play

[quartz cipher]

What I find odd is only 2\3 of mine started doing this. From what i can tell, twice a day. And they were running fine for 6 months. Maybe coincidential, but it only just started AFTER i did a radio migration to another coordinator. And im seeing other weird network device behaviors intermitently not talking all the time. So im redoing it all this week.

[muted meteor]

it certainly sounds like your're suffering from the firmware bug @austere patio mentioned.

I'll update mine in a week or so when i've made sure it's not having an issue

[quartz cipher]

But a firmware bug wouldnt magically start being a bug 6 months later is what im not understanding. It would of been a bug since day 1

[muted meteor]

maybe whatever the OTA check (that puddly mentioned) was doing was different and something they changed causes it to crash?

bugs need things that trigger them; it's possible they (Aqara) are parsing a payload incorrectly in their firmware and if something changed in the payload, the parse error is fatal, which causes a crash

the thing that causes the parse error may not have been in the payload before, but now is

(this is a speculative example based on being a professional software engineer/electronic engineer; not saying this is what's actually happening)

[austere patio]

We only got OTA updates in the frontend a few releases ago

[surreal rune]

anyone use Aqara H1 EU Wall Switch on ZHA ? it's seem supported on Zigbee2mqtt https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/WS-K01D.html, i'm able to pair it with ZHA, but the sensor power is 0.0 kWh , not counting. this is know bug on ZHA ?

[austere patio]

There have been zero changes to the structure since the feature was introduced. It's pretty rigid and works with every other device except for this one 😄.

[muted meteor]

Fair, who knows what Aqara is doing then.

I haven't stripped the light to see if there's anyway to access a debug/JTAG/etc port, I've got better things to do 🤣

[quartz cipher]

I was thinking of adopting their hub just for these t1m devices. Will be nice to be able to use the addressable functions of the led rings too. What hub did you get?

[muted meteor]

They gave me an E1

You do get some flashy features for the ring light, but I don't think I'll use them really; I've written automations to let me do things like flash it different colours for notifications etc

If it wasn't running some weird voltage (I don't recall; 50V or something?) I'd just replace the built in controller with a WLED one

[quartz cipher]

Haha, i thought of that on day 1. I got so many Quin boards laying around.

The strips on mine are being fed 12v

Im in the US

[muted meteor]

the strips are 12V yeah, but the WW are 50V or something; I remember looking at it and thinking it's not a standard voltage you can get controllers for, and I can't be bothered building one

I mainly got this light to fill my home office which was just too dark to work in cause the ceiling wiring is in the corner and I can't get above it in the loft to move it (low roof, area too small for me to crawl in)

[quartz cipher]

Oh, yea. I was only talking about throwing a digUno in the mix for the addressable strip, not the main white leds.

[muted meteor]

definitely an idea; the controllers I have are a little too big though to fit in the fixture and would probably mess with the white lighting by causing shadows

i think i'll get some aqara switches next, they can apparently be set to software mode, so i acn stop people physically cutting the power to the lights and F'n up by ZigBee network

they seem to be the only brand that can do this; replace a wall switch, have a physical toggle and do software mode that I can find in the UK

they're a bit pricey though, and I need to replace about 20+ light switches

I don't think they have an 4-way ones either, which I'd need for my kitchen

[quartz cipher]

Get the ZooZ ZEN32 scene controllers man! I have 3 of them. Two of them is what i use to control the T1M in question. THeres like 40 different button combos

[wild mortar]

must be zigbee? zooz has some decently cheap zwave switches.

[quartz cipher]

You can put it in smart bulb\no relay mode. So theres constant power to the light, and youre just doing automation calls

[muted meteor]

Those won't fit out light switch boxes in the UK unfortunately

[quartz cipher]

They are ZWave switches

ahhh

[muted meteor]

our options are limited here

We need something like the Aqara H1 Smart Wall Switch

https://www.aqara-shop.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/WS-EUKNNG_2.jpg

"Perfect for traditional British homes" in their product description 🤣

[gritty widget]

Jumping in here because the current conversation relates to exactly what I logged in to ask... I have some aqara D1 switches. Bought them so I could do what hamido describes above and have powered switches that acted as smart buttons. Had them working, ish, in zigbee2mqtt but the decoupled mode was hit and miss. Have now transferred them to my zha coordinator but struggling to find a quirk that enables all of the functionality. Has anyone had any luck?

[forest cobalt]

You can use a cluster command to switch decoupled mode on. I don't remember off the top of my head WHAT the cluster is, but it should be listed under Manage Clusters.

[muted meteor]

I'd be interested to know if you find out, 'cause I'd want to use these exclusively through HA with ZHA

[grim otter]

hello guys, i want to buy a cheap mmwave sensor zigbee, but i want a sensor what dont detect pets <20 kg can you suggest some?

[forest cobalt]

Most of the Zigbee mmWave sensors are not able to be tuned that well and you’ll have to use placement to avoid pets.

[grim otter]

what you mean "have to use placement"?

[forest cobalt]

Place them higher so that your pet(s) don’t trigger them.

But that doesn’t always work, so sometimes you need to get creative.

[grim otter]

Okay, I understand, but I would like to install some sensors in ceiling, and I'm not sure how to avoid that.

[forest cobalt]

You might be able to tune some of them to only detect to above the floor in that case. Some of them have settings for distance, so that could work.

[raven jewel]

Unless you have cats, which will somehow always manage to be in the place you think they wouldn't/couldn't/shouldn't be 😛

[grim otter]

Yes, I have a dog and a cat, my cat is quiet and always walks on the floor.
I just wanted to make some automations to turn on lights when humans are present and not animals.
Okay, I'll buy a sensor and try it out. There aren't many that work at 230v for ceilings, and I only know of one from tuya.

[carmine hamlet]

my cat is quiet and always walks on the floor.
I think you may just have another small dog 🙂

[grim otter]

I have a shi tzu its small

[forest cobalt]

My two 14# dogs sometimes sets my mmWave sensors, but I’ve tuned mine to pretty much ignore them. But I also place my sensors higher.

[winged coyote]

Anyone know how to update the polling frequency for devices in Z2M? I have a smart plug with power monitoring on it, but the power entity wasn't updating. I was able to update it by manually hitting refresh in Z2M, but I want it to update in real time

[icy blade]

Easy: put a ble beacon on the cat and exclude it from automations 🙈

[grim otter]

Ehehhe nice solution or put the cat outside 😂

[icy blade]

Nerd version: why tune one sensor if you can add two more instead

[grim otter]

Like as i Said i gonna buy One or two to test.

[raw rain]

Hi! I wand to tinker with HA a bit, and I need some advice on which USB zigbee stick would work best out of these. Sorry for them not being in english. Here they are https://prnt.sc/hc1LrUKCflCl

[sour shadow]

Not all Zigbee sticks are created equal. The ZBT-1 (skyconnect) is good along with others like the SMLight SL-ZB06

The Xiaomi is a hub, not a stick

CC25xx sticks are utter shite

The only one on that list that's decent is the Skyconnect - the one already mentioned 😉

[raw rain]

Is there a huge difference between the sonoff zbdongle-e and the skyconnect one?

sorry if I sound anoying, I just want to know more

[wheat shell]

Hey guys
I have a few ZigBee light bulbs, but they are connected to an actual light switch, meaning they do not receive electricity when the power is cut

The problem I face is that when the power is off for a long enough time, these light bulbs disappear from ZigBee2mqtt

Is there a way to keep them permanently joined?

[sour shadow]

The E is ok, not great, but ok

[forest cobalt]

Yes, put them on a smart switch/relay. What's happening is that when you cut power to the bulbs, you are trashing your mesh. Don't cut power to the bulbs. Smart bulbs are not meant to be used that way.

[wheat shell]

What is the point, though?
A smart switch like ZBMINIL2, for example, will cut the power all the same

And I frankly don't want to use a battery powered scene switch because in my case it will just look bad next to the actual switch :/

Is there a mains-powered switch that can work as a scene switch?

[sour shadow]

Smart switches sometimes have a smart bulb mode, so they don't cut the power

[wheat shell]

That would work, yeah
Thanks

[quartz cipher]

Does anyone know if u can change the channel on the aqara M3 hub? @muted meteor

I bought a M3 hub just to accommodate specific aqara t1m devices to pair to the hub then I'm gonna integrate the hub in my HA with my already present slzb controled network.

But issue 1 in seeing, I setup the aqara M3 hub and it's choosing to be on zigbee channel 11 for whatever reason. Seems I can't change it?

[sour shadow]

If the hub has no option to change the channel then you can't change the channel

[quartz cipher]

Got it. Seems like it determines it at setup.

Uhg, having such a difficult time with all this. Trying to add it to HA via homekit integration, its complaining. Now im trying to use matter integration....not getting far

[sour shadow]

Ditch the hub, go direct. Problem solved 😉

[quartz cipher]

Lol....cant with this device.

TRust me...my other 60 zigbee devices are directly on the slzb...

We had a good convo around the Aqara T1M product all yesetrday above

[bronze harness]

Have a rather strange issue since upgrading HA and zigbee2mqtt. All devices are there and are reported correctly from zigbee2mqtt to HA. The funny thing is I can not control or send any commands from HA to zigbee2mqtt. It just does nothing/times out. If I toggle the switch in zigbee2mqtt the status gets updated in an instant.

After downgrading from z2mqtt version 1.38.0 to 1.30.4 everything works fine again...

[winged coyote]

More details from my post yesterday. I'm using a Sengled smart plug that says it has an energy tracker. I added it directly to Z2M but the energy tracking doesn't update unless I manually refresh it.

Not sure if anyone has used this plug before, but is there an extra configuration step involved maybe?

[split parrot]

It seems that the battery information for one of my sensors is being sent correctly via MQTT to the zigbee2mqtt topic. The issue I am seeing is that in Home Assistant, the value of last_reported is not updating when the value is the same. According to the docs, it should update anytime a new value is received (https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/state_object/). I am thinking this is an issue with home assistant or mqtt and not zigbee2mqtt since I can see the message come through appropriately.

[quiet mural]

What are the most luminous zigbee bulbs?

[sour shadow]

What fitting?

What country?

[quiet mural]

B22 or E27

[quiet mural]

UK

[sour shadow]

https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/tradfri-led-bulb-b22-1055-lumen-smart-wireless-dimmable-white-spectrum-globe-70517641/?

[sullen shore]

any "cheaper" alternative to inovelli blue 2-1 for a 3 way switch? I was trying with a sonoff mini but couldn't get it to work

https://downloads.intercomcdn.com/i/o/799248046/0324fe1f9c6a68c95465d368/Inovelli-2-1-Blue-Series-3-Way-Pole-Neutral-Installation-Load-In-Both-Boxes.png?expires=1720550700&signature=bd12d25165c60999d93070812ed0bf9efc0b6f75bce497152c854e7de30d524b

that is my wiring

[gritty widget]

I was planning on doing this when I first transferred to zha, but some of the other entities aren't quite right either (three switch entities for a one-gang switch, for example) , so leant towards a custom quirk instead.

[forest cobalt]

Yeah, TBH, I really want to like ZHA, but I have some devices that don't work outside of Z2M very well. But, I get what you're saying.

[gritty widget]

Maybe I have a crack at doing decoupled mode in z2m again. So frustrating that half the features work in each!

[full cave]

I’ve successfully added my Sonoff S60TPF smart plug to my Home Assistant via the HACS Sonoff integration. How do I use this smart plug as a signal extender/booster?

[forest cobalt]

Yeah, I know. BUT, I've never had a problem with decoupled mode in Z2M.

[forest cobalt]

That's a WiFi smart plug. It won't work with Zigbee as a routing device.

[gritty widget]

Interesting! Every time I turn a bulb on without using the switch the relay triggers and turns it off again.

[full cave]

Thanks for the quick reply! I appreciate it.
So which device would act like a signal extender for my zigbee network via HA?

[forest cobalt]

You're UK based IIRC?

[forest cobalt]

Any smart plug that is Zigbee would. Or most smart bulbs. Where are you in the world?

[gritty widget]

I am indeed.

[forest cobalt]

So, I seem to remember that for whatever reason, outside of the 110V (US) markets, some sort of capacitor was needed because the switch wasn't getting enough energy with a bulb inline. Let me search for a second.

[full cave]

Denmark. So a sonoff bulb would do the trick?

[forest cobalt]

Argh. I can't find it now, but there was a topic on the forums about the Aqara switches not getting enough power. When I have a chance, I'll try to do a deeper search.

[forest cobalt]

No, Sonoff stopped selling Zigbee bulbs. But, you could go with Ikea bulbs.

[gritty widget]

No worries, thank you for your help 🙂 Interestingly I've just switched to decoupled mode from the z2m add on rather than the hass front end and I'm not getting the same problem.

[forest cobalt]

Huh... interesting 🤔 Maybe a difference in the cluster commands between ZHA and Z2M?

[gritty widget]

Maybe. I'll transfer the other three switches back in to z2m and see if the same thing applies for the 1 gang and 3 gang variants.

[quick pier]

yoo, i was wondering if anyone could help me out abit, im trying to help a buddy with a "LIXEE - TIC module to Zigbee 3.0 for LINKY meter" and he would like a gauge with the current "power usage" in KWh. but.. im also hitting a dead end ;P i think i need to change some reporting stuff, but unsure if i should post here or in energy channel

[sour shadow]

Reporting is here

You don't want reporting of a few seconds, or even a few tens of seconds, that could cause mesh problems

[quick pier]

yea, waiting on a "readable" log bit from the device, before i continue my question ;P the pic i got is hardly readable ;P

some info pages that i found thusfar that seem usefull.
https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/ZLinky_TIC.html
https://github.com/fairecasoimeme/Zlinky_TIC?tab=readme-ov-file

from what i can see/understand from the state page,
oh darn no pics here? hmm sec

trying to get current power usage from a "LIXEE - TIC module to Zigbee 3.0"

[rapid dawn]

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

[golden vessel]

attributes like the PowerFactor in the ElectricalMeas cluster are not reportable (according to the spec), which means that the device does not automatically report them when they change, right?
how does ZHA deal with them? polling?

[quick pier]

posted some more stuff in the thread

im learning as i go here ;P

[austere patio]

Yeah, they're polled

[golden vessel]

is that on the HA entity update() call? or do the attributes have some specific timer?

[austere patio]

I believe both

[golden vessel]

thanks!

[quartz cipher]

@muted meteor - Got a M3 hub integrated via homekit into HA. Paired one of the T1M to it. Going to pair my second and also update that firmware on it from v17 to v26. And the third one im going to leave alone as is native in HA and see how all or any of hte 3 react(turning them selves on or not over hte next few days).

[mellow geode]

There's a ZHA specific "timer" now that polls them regularly, but you can also use homeassistant.update_entity if you need to poll them in an automation for example.

[muted meteor]

Nice, I'll be interested to see your results

[junior ridge]

Does anyone have any input on this issue? I got in two ThirdReality humidity/temp sensors, installed and added to the mesh. Both had firmware updates, but one of them is being stubborn about taking the update. Keeps starting, then ends with Failed to call service update/install. Update was not successful: <Status.FAILURE: 1>

I've tried like a dozen times, and the manual doesn't give any insight https://3reality.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Temperature-and-Humidity-Sensor.pdf

Temp and humidity are still tracking, so it's working, just ... I don't really like notifications for updates if I can help it

[latent hatch]

are there any good alternatives to TubesZB ethernet coordinators that are available in europe? or any other suggested HUB that can be placed far from the HA server (for use with z2m)

[sour shadow]

SMLight

[latent hatch]

thank you

[split parrot]

Are any other users of zigbee2mqtt seeing this or similar issue. Trying to diagnose if it is a wide spread issue or just me.

The issue is that the last_reported value is not updating when the value is the same from zigbee2mqtt.

[forest cobalt]

If the update fails, try keeping the device awake (and close to a routing device). So, try pushing the pairing button every second or so while the update is being pushed. Might help.

[gritty nimbus]

Hi, I'm trying to connect a dongle zigbee (sonoff) to HA. I downloaded the driver and put the dongle in the settings of my vm (virtualbox). HA discovered my dongle so I clicked on "CONFIGURE" but now I need to choose the Network Formation, I have 3 choices : "Keep radio network settings", "Upload a manual backup" and "Erase network settings and create a new network". Does someone know what I need to choose ? facts to help : I don't have a DHCP network, I had to put the IP of my vm manually and I don't have internet on this computer... Any suggestions ?

[forest cobalt]

You want Erase network settings and create a new network.

[gritty nimbus]

okay thank you, I'll try that !

[limber snow]

Got an issue trying to connect Sonoff Zigbee 01MINIZB to ZHA. it pairs but the switch function is "unavalible". if i try and reconfigure it just comes up with "The device reconfiguration failed" any ideas why this isnt working?

[heavy cedar]

I've had that happen a couple times. The only things that have worked for me are power cycling the ZBMini by flipping the breaker off/on or, if that doesn't work, delete the Mini from ZHA and then re-add.

[limber snow]

Will give that a go cheers

[gritty nimbus]

After that, it's "Loading next step for zha" but it's been 3 hours that this windown is open... I don't know what to do. But my vm discovered the right port with the right name, HA discovered also the right port. But maybe, HA discovers it thanks to the settings of the VM but can't acces the dongle 🧐

[mild bough]

MY Z2M shows now devices in the front-end. But they all work in HA

How can I fix the webui?

I've restored a backup from 7 days ago to no avail

The issue appeared today

[forest cobalt]

I would ask in the Z2M discord as this isn't really a HA issue I don't think. I'm assuming you are running it as an addon?

[mild bough]

Ye

[forest cobalt]

What happens if you try it in an incognito window? Same results?

[junior ridge]

will do. I've been working it remotely, but i'm going over there later today and can poke it manually

[gritty frigate]

Howdy folks 🙂

After HA restart I noticed that z2m and HA got out of sync, meaning: a few devices report "unavailable" in HA, while I can see & control them in z2m.
I tried restarting the individual components (running HAOS for now), with no luck.

I tried removing the actual topic from HA, which after restarting z2m gets recreated under mqtt/homeassistant - but it's still unavailable 🙂

Any experience with weirdness like this?

The device in question is a hue light bulb

[gray fog]

Are Sonoff dongle-p still a good option for HA?

[mild bough]

Fixed by removing all the image:// data in the devices.yaml

[forest cobalt]

No. The E is better-ish. Not great, but passible.

[forest cobalt]

Try unpairing and repairing the bulb.

[forest cobalt]

Interesting... glad that worked. I never saw that before.

[mild bough]

https://github.com/nurikk/zigbee2mqtt-frontend/issues/1477

known issue apparently

[gray fog]

better-ish? so if I allready got a P the cost of an E is not worth it?

[forest cobalt]

Huh... Yeah, I've never encountered that at all.

[forest cobalt]

The E > P. If you already have a P, it'll still work, but it's not the greatest in terms of range and the number of routing devices it'll support. But, you can still use it.

[gritty frigate]

LIke delete it from Z2M and let it rejoin?

[forest cobalt]

Yup.

[gray fog]

how about zha vs z2m at this point they both support OTA?
I'm about to make my skyconnect matter only as recomended elsewhere

[gritty frigate]

z2m def does, I'm actually in the process of updating fw on some devices

did you connect skyconnect with z2m?

[forest cobalt]

They do both support OTA, but ZHA and Z2M can support devices differently. Z2M usually supports more devices and sometimes more features on those devices (without having to deal with cluster commands). Case in point: some Aqara switches and decoupled mode.

[gray fog]

yeah using skyconnect with z2m atm

[gritty frigate]

how is it? I'm considering making that move

[gray fog]

yeah got some aqara roller

[gray fog]

stable for me never had any issues but only 41 devices atm

[forest cobalt]

Z2M might handle those better. I have the Aqara E1 curtain motors.

[gray fog]

gonna stay on z2m then, tnx

[modern surge]

noob question thinking about starting HA using a pi 3 or 4 but to get it to work with Phillips hue and Ikea wireless what dongle should I get any recommendations? (have tried to looked in pinned posts for before asking here)

[forest cobalt]

So, depending on where you are in the world, the Sonoff Dongle E can be bought pretty easily. Avoid the Conbee II/III. The Sonoff Dongle P, while cheaper, will probably not perform very well.

[gray fog]

not recommending skyconnect?

[sour shadow]

That one's fine too

[forest cobalt]

lmao I completely forgot about the skyconnect. I'm a bad helper today. 😉

[gray fog]

wrote you a PM with config I use

[gray fog]

maybe I should just go for 2 SC then 😛
they talked about firmware updates though HA but never seen it?

[austere patio]

They're distributed via https://connectzbt1.home-assistant.io/firmware-update/#from-skyconnect for now

[gritty frigate]

Well, that didn't help it seems - the interesting thing is that it's not with all entities.
The control switch is unavailable, but Power-on behavior is 😕

[forest cobalt]

Huh... can you share what the light looks like in the MQTT integration?

[muted shard]

anyone have luck pairing a Keen smart vent with a zigbee dongle?

it finds it when i try to add it, but the configuration never completes and reconfiguration always fails

[sour shadow]

Do you have any Zigbee routers?

Do you have other devices paired ok?

[muted shard]

other zigbee devices are functioning fine

not sure what a zigbee router is though

30 other devices (ikea smart blinds, repeaters, and hue lights) are functioning fine

[sour shadow]

Check the second pin for a bunch of terms, but Zigbee routers are your bulbs and repeaters

[muted shard]

got it, thanks

open to any troubleshooting steps y'all can suggest

[forest cobalt]

Try pairing it to the closest routing device instead of allowing the mesh to choose.

Might get better results.

[gritty frigate]

Like in mqtt info?

Or a screenshot 🙂

[forest cobalt]

A screenshot of how the device page looks when you select the device in the MQTT integration..

[gritty frigate]

https://imgur.com/a/fUq9GWz - two screens

never seen anything like this before 🙂

[forest cobalt]

Yeah... that's weird. And it's completely normal in Z2M?

[gritty frigate]

yeap, can control and everything looks normal

[forest cobalt]

Ok, so you deleted the topic from MQTT, re-paired the device... hmmm 🤔

[gritty frigate]

added the images to the same link for z2m

exactly, the homeassistant/... topic

well, topics as the HA one splits it up per entity domain, i.e. sensor, light, etc

didn't touch the z2m as that looked all ok (in mqtt)

[forest cobalt]

Actually... that might be the trick here.

[gritty frigate]

klll it off from z2m?

[forest cobalt]

Worth a shot? Everything else has failed.

[gritty frigate]

not everything 😄

[forest cobalt]

lmao... fair fair

[gritty frigate]

my suspicion is that there's something in .storage/ whatever entity cache that has these wrong

but yeah, let me give that a try, nothing to lose 🙂

[forest cobalt]

Yeah, I thought about that too, but that's dangerous. I'd rather kill the topic from Z2M than go mucking about in .storage/

[gritty frigate]

agreed, pretty easy to f that up and hard to restore

[forest cobalt]

Yyyuuuppp

[gritty frigate]

the trick is that I can see this in mqtt with mqtt explorer

the topic is there under home assistant

homeassistant/light/0x0017880110420fd7/light/config

{"availability":[{"topic":"zigbee2mqtt/bridge/state"},{"topic":"zigbee2mqtt/Étkező/Lámpa/Asztal/availability"}],"availability_mode":"all","brightness":true,"brightness_scale":254,"command_topic":"zigbee2mqtt/Étkező/Lámpa/Asztal/set","device":{"identifiers":["zigbee2mqtt_0x0017880110420fd7"],"manufacturer":"Philips","model":"Hue white and color ambiance E26/E27/E14 (9290012573A)","name":"Étkező/Lámpa/Asztal","sw_version":"67.101.2","via_device":"zigbee2mqtt_bridge_0x00124b0021b7802e"},"effect":true,"effect_list":["blink","breathe","okay","channel_change","candle","fireplace","colorloop","finish_effect","stop_effect","stop_hue_effect"],"json_attributes_topic":"zigbee2mqtt/Étkező/Lámpa/Asztal","max_mireds":500,"min_mireds":153,"name":null,"object_id":"étkező/lámpa/asztal","origin":{"name":"Zigbee2MQTT","sw":"1.39.0","url":"https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io"},"schema":"json","state_topic":"zigbee2mqtt/Étkező/Lámpa/Asztal","supported_color_modes":["xy","color_temp"],"unique_id":"0x0017880110420fd7_light_zigbee2mqtt"}

so the best treatment: unplug that bulb, remove it, give it 15 mins 😄

[forest cobalt]

That's weird though... I mean, sure, it'll kick it out, but that's still just strange.

[gritty frigate]

I'll have to dig into the entities stuff tomorrow if this doesn't help, unfortunately

thanks for the tips tho, much appreciate the help here!

[forest cobalt]

Anytime! Wish I had better answers, but I'll muck around a bit tonight and see if anything clicks.

[gritty frigate]

We wiill figure it out, like we always do 💪

[barren snow]

is there a smarter way to refresh state of all exposed settings of a device in Zigbee2MQTT than doing a hack like this? Naturally clicking manually isn't really a good way 😄

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[grim ravine]

Hey guys, I have an old cc2531 laying around and would like to to put it to use as a router with my sonoff 3.0 (coordinator)

Where can I find the latest firmware/instructions?

Also would like to confirm if it's useful to use it as router?

[sour shadow]

I'd not even use those as routers these days

[dusky flint]

Is there a way to hide the z2m device updates from /config/updates?

[sour shadow]

You can disable the update entities

[dusky flint]

Ah! But then I suppose I wouldnt be able to update it from the device screen either?

[tired ocean]

The SLZB-06 or SLZB-07 one?

[rapid dawn]

@tired ocean When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

[sour shadow]

Yes, either

MGM24 based ideally

[tired ocean]

If we are talking about the SLZB-06 one, just connect it via USB to the main host (HA) right?

[sour shadow]

USB or LAN

[tired ocean]

Sweet. How can i extend the range? Is that done automatically by any (powered by outlet) device?

In case that would be needed

[sour shadow]

Yes, check the second pinned message

[tired ocean]

Since im going to order one, which one would you choose if you had to,,, SLZB-06, SLZB-06M or SLZB-06P7?

[sour shadow]

https://smlight.tech/product/slzb-06mg24/

[tired ocean]

Thank you, ordered 😄

[quartz cipher]

@muted meteor Im landing on updating the light to v26 of firmware that actually fixes the random reset\crash\turn on behavior of the T1M. All 3 lights would do this behavior 2-3 times in a 24 hour period.

Light 1 - I paired to M3 Hub, updated firmware, left paired to hub and adopted light into HA.
Light 2 - I paired to M3 Hub, updated firmware, unpaired and joined back directly to SLZB into HA.
Light 3 - I didnt touch, still running older firmware, directly paired to SLZB into HA.

Its been 24 hours and only Light 3 has exhibited the behavior.... Giving it another 24 hours, but seems straight forward to me.

Since i already bought the hub, might as well be the only 3 devices i pair to it. For the sake of being able to update FW on them in the future as well as gaining the extra functionalities from the hub like the accent ring addressable led effects as well as power on\off actions.

[muted meteor]

Nice find. I've still not had any issues with mine on the older firmware but it seems reasonable to update it anyway. Since I'm only using 1 device I'm not seeing any real value in using the hub, so I'll keep it paired to HA and move it over for updates.

[mellow geode]

Did you check this on mobile or on a desktop/PC?

[orchid ore]

Looking for good reliable Zigbee Hub?

[sour shadow]

https://smlight.tech/product/slzb-06mg24/ or https://tubeszb.com/product/efr32-mgm24-poe-coordinator/ are the current best

The ZBT-1/Skyconnect and Sonoff E sticks are also ok

[orchid ore]

which one would you get?

[sour shadow]

Either of the first two

[orchid ore]

brillant

[broken coral]

What's the deal with PoE? Seems like quite the hassle if you don't already have it?

[sour shadow]

But for those that do, it's awesome

PoE rocks for power + data

[strange lance]

App and chrome and ff on phone

[orchid ore]

wait.. the smlight is POE???
nice

[forest cobalt]

PoE FTMFW

[broken coral]

Sure, I agree in principle, just one more thing to get into before I can finally make lights blink

[sour shadow]

You don't have to use PoE, and the SMLight also supports USB connection

[orchid ore]

Having POE such a plus!

i have a unifi system so the POE will fit right in!

one less power adapter

[broken coral]

I was thinking about the tubeszb one, because everybody here seems to consider it the best and it looks like there it isn't optional?

Oh, picture from another direction helped, nevermind

[orchid ore]

why do people think the tubezb is the best over the SMLIGHT SLZB

[sour shadow]

PoE switch or Injector required to power

Tube is in this channel, and helps people

So... you know... that counts for a lot 😉

[orchid ore]

wait the owner of tube is on this channel?

super easy LOL

[sour shadow]

SMLight also do decent stuff, have good support, and are very honest about their devices

[forest cobalt]

tube is hands-down a community favorite and a really good guy. One of the first people to really help me out when I started with Zigbee.

[orchid ore]

again too easy ... i assume the only place to order is here? https://tubeszb.com/product/efr32-mgm24-poe-coordinator/

[forest cobalt]

Yeah.

[orchid ore]

any idea the turn aorund time?

[forest cobalt]

Most of his stuff is out of stock, but he's pretty quick with building when he gets parts in.

[orchid ore]

Thanks

[sour shadow]

And if you ask him then he can usually tell you

[orchid ore]

will do.

[sour shadow]

Though he often appears as if by magic when his products are mentioned 😄

[orchid ore]

Nice! "Possibly upgradeable to Thread/Matter with concurrent Zigbee in the future, currently not advised and experimental, buggy"

[austere patio]

I wouldn't count on it. You'll have a better experience with separate radios for Zigbee and Thread.

[carmine hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/meerkat-hide-hello-peek-a-boo-peek-gif-7988957

[orchid ore]

LOL

[forest cobalt]

Kinda half tempted to ping him to lure him out 😉

[silk crest]

can someone help me with Zigbee2MQTT, was working great a year, and now it cant find the Gateway, I have restored HA and have even installed a fresh OS. Still cant get my zigbee network back up.

[sour shadow]

What's the error message?

[molten linden]

who me?

I'm a little late today. I am a bit behind in orders as the week progresses but usually catch up on the weekends.

[forest cobalt]

lol yeah, bit slow there @molten linden 😉

[molten linden]

I'm making some more MGM24's today (hopefully) so I will add some more stock lol

[silk crest]

502 Server Gateway if i rememeber correctly

[molten linden]

an hour ago I was driving home from "day job" office. then after dealing with son who didn't tell his sister where I was like I asked him too, I had to hop on a call. another one in a few minutes so poof I'll be gone again 😂

[forest cobalt]

Ha! Yeah, that sucks... but hey! Still good to see you man!

[silk crest]

502 Bad Gateway

[sour shadow]

Check the logs

[rapid dawn]

If you're getting a 502 from an add-on then the add-on isn't running.

On Zigbee2MQTT a common cause is having only one Zigbee coordinator/stick and also having enabled ZHA or deCONZ.

[silk crest]

[2024-07-11 11:30:05] error: z2m: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman
[2024-07-11 11:30:05] error: z2m: Failed to start zigbee
[2024-07-11 11:30:05] error: z2m: Check https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/installation/20_zigbee2mqtt-fails-to-start.html for possible solutions
[2024-07-11 11:30:05] error: z2m: Exiting...
[2024-07-11 11:30:05] error: z2m: Error: NCP EZSP protocol version of 12 does not match Host version 13

[sour shadow]

Firmware update time 😉

[silk crest]

I have flashed this thing 100 times

i have both a sky connect and a sonoff

[sour shadow]

But not with the right version by the look of that error

https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt/issues/22635

You need the firmware from https://github.com/darkxst/silabs-firmware-builder

To keep things simple, this driver currently only supports EmberZNet firmware 7.4.x (EZSP 13), older versions will not be supported. Initially, multi-protocol will also not be supported as this is not considered stable yet.

[silk crest]

https://darkxst.github.io/silabs-firmware-builder/

yes ihave used this webflasher on the SOnooff

so flash to just Zigbee firmware

right

[sour shadow]

Check the top pinned message

[silk crest]

Zigbee (EZSP) 7.3.1.0 build 176

thats the lastest verison, some site read to flash to 7.4

[sour shadow]

You NEED 7.4.x

[silk crest]

yes ty! flashing now\

zbdonglee
/ncp-uart-hw-v7.4.3.0-zbdonglee-230400.gb

I flashed my Sonoff Dongle with the above firmware and same error.

[sour shadow]

Then the flash didn't flash

[proven pelican]

Hey guys, is there a go to recommended zigbee range extender? I found an article about the Tuya USB Signal range extender that got decent reivews but wasn't sure if there is like a defacto standard for using with ZHA

[forest cobalt]

Depends on where you are in the world, but generally, there's no such thing as a "range extender". Routing devices in a zigbee mesh will extend your mesh.

[proven pelican]

so my issue is that my mesh isn't very big right now, I don't need any new devices, and many of the ones I have (looking at you sengled bulbs) are not repeaters themselves

so I'm having reliability issues

https://www.amazon.com/Booster-Amplifier-2-483GHz-Extender-Repeater/dp/B09VPGCNJR?crid=2FYYEU0OYB8GO&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.icIiwNzxmhPQQ54hV9Mlm30DMTaCsZzFDQvqt4LafrWfLvVBbS8EjdUmQKeTrvs2QUOjmYkdckzZYnDPEHjZ6oAoVs4L1sC5ML2Rw2mhJcUenFPOvYHwchv0NsVU1_LTExqUqOCEmWu6WxWcnMPr4Xq93ZQxZ-O1Pe0TpqkypdWuYrPfF9Yq20gsl2OpHkg8JNkex8ANzbrC7_JvNC5yB7WGgtVGbTGdUowEYGw5KwG4gLhL5IfiiKELw6wudpTccH6sO6YLdkIFIR3T9WwaTye9d1V1330uQaUwJdt9WLo.b-DS0xzUVPWJgZkC2IoKJDTNavNhlZr8PVfzPBRtV0Q&dib_tag=se&keywords=Zigbee+signal&qid=1709899644&s=electronics&sprefix=zigbee+signa,electronics,186&sr=1-6&linkCode=sl1&tag=smarthomescen-20&linkId=8ccefd8d92c01e2b08569a52b4cf60f7&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl

that's the one this review says works well

sorry for the huge link

[forest cobalt]

Yup. That's common with Sengleds.

NO. That's Tuya crap.

Are you US based?

[proven pelican]

yea

[forest cobalt]

Get these: https://a.co/d/6d0su8W

Very reliable, has power monitoring and are great as routing devices.

(Also, TR is a HA partner as well).

[proven pelican]

wow, 10 bucks each too

how is that so cheap haha

[forest cobalt]

Yup

They do all of their manufacturing in-house and are able to source chips on the cheap.

[proven pelican]

that's awesome, thanks! Now i can put them throughout the house and really get this mesh going

[forest cobalt]

I have 11 of them scattered around my house.

[proven pelican]

I don't need to smart control on any plugged device right now that I can think of but I can get some power monitoring i guess

glad I stopped in, thanks so much for your help

[left warren]

I’m thinking of installing 3 LED strips (RGB+W COB) on my bedroom, which LED controller do u suggest to use?

since there are 3 wall switches, I need to have the possibility to turn on/off (maybe even dim) each strip from each switch, is that possible without cutting the electricity completely?

[forest cobalt]

Out of my 11, only 2 are actually used to control things. lol I just use them for power monitoring mostly and routers.

[forest cobalt]

Anytime! Happy to help!

[forest cobalt]

For Zigbee LED controllers, I'm not entirely sure. I prefer WLED with ESP boards for that. But, for the switches, if you don't want to cut the power to the strips, you'd have to use either smart switches or smart relays at the switch themselves.

[sour shadow]

Gledopto to great controllers

[nocturne geyser]

I'm using Conbee II with ZHA
Can anyone suggest a light switch for UK?
Ideally one with dimming option

[rotund night]

SNZB-06P Presence sensor has apparently just stopped reporting occupancy. It's only a couple of weeks old and it used to be so sensitive (even on low) that I put it inside my desk so it would basically just notice my feet. Now, the last time it detected occupancy was last week. I've power cycled it plenty of times. It did report the light change two hours ago.

Any thoughts?

[tidal sundial]

Does anybody knows a good chip and IDE for programming my own zigbee sensor?

[forest cobalt]

So, there are the ESP32 C6 chips that are supposed to be pretty good. But, AFAIK, ESPHome doesn't support those yet. I think the Z1 Mini is supported though, but I'm not sure. You might want to ask in the ESPHome discord (https://discord.gg/vCvKp29T)

[broken coral]

Seeed Studio sells a nrf25840-based module that I'm looking at right now, seems pretty solid
Z1 Mini seems discontinued, also based on the TI chip, which I find to be non-viable
Haven't tried it myself yet tho

[tidal sundial]

I was looking into the cc2652r but there is not really a good program for it that is free the only program is PTVO but the downside is when you want to do something on battery you need to pay for it

[broken coral]

Yup, and that payment is PER DEVICE. This is my concern exactly and if you want to develop yourself your bound to IAR Studio, either with a shitty trial version or you shell out 5k$ for a single license.

[tidal sundial]

yeah exactly that

[molten linden]

Some work on an ESPHome type set for the Nordic radios: https://github.com/ffenix113/zigbee_home

Some other nordic examples https://github.com/stanvn/zigbee-plant-sensor and https://gitlab.com/homrepo/applications/multisensor-lite

@tidal sundial finally some replacement firmware projects for tuya telink base sensors etc could give insight on using the telink chips and sdk. https://github.com/doctor64/tuyaZigbee

[grim otter]

Hi guys i am looking for a nice Lux zigbee sensor, about your experience what model is recomended to use with z2m?

[molten linden]

https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Xiaomi_GZCGQ01LM.html

[grim otter]

Thanks

[wind finch]

Hi, I have a Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 dongle and wanted to try Zigbee2MQTT. I installed it, but now I want to go back and use ZHA instead. How do I deactivate Zigbee2MQTT and activate ZHA?

[tidal peak]

should just be a matter of deleting the add on

[meager cliff]

Hi everyone. Hoping someone can help with my conbee2 zigbee usb connection. Old HAOS version running in a truenas scale VM worked fine perfectly. Now upgraded to Unraid, using a VM and a restored back up. All items seem to be working fine in the new installation except for ZHA. I can see the USB in unraid and in the hardware list for HAOS. But I cannot connect to the USB. Tried by-id, ttyACM0, all result in some type of connection error. Have updated firmware and no chage. Any suggestions?

also, tried a new VM install from scratch, and a docker install which gives the same result with a "failure to connect" even though HA sees the device.

[nova plume]

I am using Z2M and added an outlet. This outlet supports Power, current, voltage. However on HA those values are not exposed. How can I get these values to show in HA?

In HA it says "This entity is disabled"

[mellow geode]

You can enable the entities then

[nova plume]

Ah, its that simple. I found the option. Sorry still new to all of this.

[mellow geode]

All good!

[stoic linden]

Im habing trouble adding my new SLZB-06p7 to HA. I get to the part to setup and new network and it says error.

[stoic linden]

Got it. Checked the log in HA. Seen the log error for high interference for the zigbee device. I relocated it and added it just fine

[lime drift]

Hi. 18 months later, I'm having some strage zigbee LQI values. Some zigbee routers have low LQI values even on the same room. I though all those players were on the same team... may be not. I started to unplug everithing i could, to try to find out wich device(s) were "faulty"... Do we have some "best practices" on how to add those devices? Do we have to follow a sequence to help zigbee to find out the "best mesh topology" ? or do i lose my time doing so? Thx

[lime drift]

Hi @stoic linden , I'm also trying to "debug" the zigbee . Where did you retreive those info? Some log level on some components ?

[carmine hamlet]

Are you experiencing any actual issues?

[lime drift]

I started to have some error about "delivery error 102" ... so i went to display all LQI info on all devices, and found some odd values.

Zigbee mesh seems bad. My home has an "L" shape. HA is on the TOP left area of this "L" shape. With 30 zigbee devices most of them "router", netwoork is bad.

even Hue bulbs, in my living room( open space ), have very differents LQI values: kitche 244, living 136, TV 132.
Kitchen being the lower left area of this "L" shape . I would think: PERFECT, the hardest is done, zigbee will self heal/optimize. => NO!

[rich wyvern]

Anyone aware of any Zigbee pull-string buttons?

[sudden yarrow]

Maybe something like this? But not used or tested it myself.
https://www.samotech.co.uk/products/zigbee-ceiling-switch-pull-cord/

[lime drift]

Should i flash my sonoff usb dongle ? Could it help ?

[rich wyvern]

That looks very interesting! Thank you 🙂

[faint vine]

I've got SM323 Samotech dimmers, one thing I've noticed that creates confusion, if the bulb is dimmed, when you press the power button, it'll restore that dimming state, so what keeps happening is:

1. Person dims bulb
2. Person turns light off
3. Person returns, presses light switch
4. Seemingly nothing happens, because bulb is at absolute minimum brightness

Any way to make it not do that, and always turn on at a given brightness when the button is pressed?

[lime drift]

automation: when state from off to on, force brightness ?

[faint vine]

Was tempted, but likely to be a tad slow to respond, and also a bit jank. Was hoping there was some zigbee settings magic I could do

[lime drift]

well, for what i have see with zigbee... if it's not available in the settings of your device, NO.

[faint vine]

Also would cause an annoying edge case, turn dimmer to get a non-bright light, home assistant sees it turn on, sets it to 100% 🤣

Guess I will try and rig up some convenience automations

[lime drift]

if your zigbee is strong and solid, it's instant.( <0.5 second I would say)

[faint vine]

My current 25/89 offline devices perfectly reflects the state of my zigbee network 🤣

Part of the reason why I'm rolling out the SM323s is to make the network strong and solid though, so hopefully it'll get better after I've done that

[lime drift]

Well i wonder how people manage to have a solid zigbee covering more than 2 rooms and 10 devices. ...

[faint vine]

It better be me, I'm too far invested now. Gotta get the reliability sorted

[lime drift]

me too

[faint vine]

89 devices, and I have another box of door / window sensors to go in, and more zigbee dimmers 🤣

To be fair, I do think it is signal related. Some of my devices drop off, some have been rock solid since day one. But they are the same hardware, so logically, it's signal.

eg I have door/window sensors dropping off like flies, but the ones in my garage have never ever dropped, because they are line of sight to the coordinator.

[lime drift]

I think i'll try to change my mind and have some kind of "wifi to zigbee converters" and split the zigbee per area ( starting with 3) .... may be ending with one converter per room....
Never saw any zigbee on prefesionnal environment... I know why now!

[faint vine]

I'm gonna try and do it properly, so I guess watch this space. I'm rolling out SM323's to every room, and then pairing everything in those rooms direct to the SM323. Making a backhaul basically.

Never saw any zigbee on prefesionnal environment... I know why now!

Afaik, control4 uses zigbee. They are just careful about signal and stuff.

[lime drift]

I already have multiple zigbee on all rooms.... that Mesh (mess???) can't cope

[faint vine]

Yea, mains powered devices (typically) act as routers, which form a mesh network

[lime drift]

80 % of all zigbee links are RED!!!!! tha's not physically possible... they are all 4/5 meters away from the previous/next one

[faint vine]

I think another problem that plagues as well is battery. Like, this device has gone offline, is it battery or is it signal? The battery state reporting is inaccurate at best, I think the network would be so much more reliable if I didn't have batteries everywhere, but what can you do 🤷

[lime drift]

I'm lucky all battery powered devices works fine here (indoor and outdoor).... the issue IS the mesh!

[faint vine]

LQI also doesn't seem like a useful indicator (which I am guessing is what ZHA shows as red?), some of my lowest LQI devices have been the most reliable, while others, some with a LQI of >100, have issues.

[lime drift]

Anyway i'm not trusting zigbee anymore. I'll try to add something like zigbee over wify coordinator.

[faint vine]

That would still be zigbee though, and in theory still have the same issues?

[lime drift]

my loft has an "L" shape. => that's why i have zigbee plugs on all rooms/sockets... That's not working as i expected

[faint vine]

🤣 My house is great fun for wireless comms, concrete floors, underfloor heating, some rooms even have metal plated ceiling.

Might as well live in a faraday cage.

[lime drift]

i have 9 devices in my living room... 2 next Home assistant (just to make sure), 2 on my room, 2 extra on the hall, 1 in the WC, 1 in the bathroom... and some lights here and there ...

still facing "ember errr delivery 102"

[faint vine]

🤷 Suppose I'll find out how reliable it is once I've got SM323's in every room, at that point, there's not really any excuse for it to not work

[stoic linden]

In HA under system. Im still trying to figure out the channels. I have it on 25 but i have the m so no meter

[faint vine]

that's another thing that could be not helping me, access points everywhere and I've paid no attention to channels, flip side is I have no neighbours within WiFi range

I have crappy smart plugs that cause all kinds of problems too I'm convinced, getting them out (or ideally to not act as routers) could also help \o/

[lime drift]

The problem is/will be.. when ther are in the wall/ceiling. It's hard to find out where is the problem ...

That's why i'll try to "split" my whole zigbee in smaller one. One per area. at the beginning.

I already replaced 2 zigbee powermeter plugs.... with 2 tuya wifi plugs. I moved those 2 zigbee in the "problematic area"... no improvements

Oh, i also moved from channel 25 to "auto". I'm now on channel 15. nothing really changed

[odd mango]

anyone tried this? https://github.com/pvvx/ATC_MiThermometer

mine is MHO-C401 (non-N version) and I don't get offered to flash zigbee firmware

not sure if it's supported

[odd mango]

figured out, N not supported

[proven pelican]

Is there a way to "optimize" your Zigbee mesh after adding new routers?

[forest cobalt]

No. The mesh takes care of that itself over time.

[turbid ledge]

Has anyone tried paring an Aqara A100 Zigbee Smart Lock to Zigbee2MQTT ?

https://www.aqara.com/en/product/smart-door-lock-a100-zigbee/

[grim igloo]

re-joining devices is the only surefire way depending on your mesh. puddly has said in the past that even zigbee 3.0 end devices will rarely choose a new parent if their last routes are working fine (summarizing)

[proven pelican]

thanks guys

[junior ridge]

repost from #integration at Jorg's recommendation: Um ... I have a problem. I'm setting up an 'SOS' zigbee button as a medical alert button and apparently it's reading into HA as a panic button for home security. So the button is stuck in a 'triggered' mode and wants a code to disarm it. But I don't have the alarm integration

[sudden yarrow]

The exact type of the button might help

Does it show up in HA as alarm_control_panel entity?

[junior ridge]

alarm_control_panel.tuya_sos_jaide_alarm_control_panel

[sudden yarrow]

Are you using ZHA?

[junior ridge]

yes

using a sky connect

[sudden yarrow]

In that case, if you select Zigbee Home Automation on the integrations page (the logo or >, not the blue text below) you can select to configure the SkyConnect. There should be Alarm Control Panel Options for setting the PIN.

[junior ridge]

Okay, I see the option. Is there a way to disable it completely?

[sudden yarrow]

And after that you should be able to disarm the alarm button with the service call:

service: alarm_control_panel.alarm_disarm
target:
  entity_id: alarm_control_panel.tuya_sos_jaide_alarm_control_panel
data:
  code: "1234"

The code has to be changed accordingly.

[junior ridge]

the trick would be: can the alarm button trigger that itself?

[sudden yarrow]

As workaround you could create an automation making that service call, whenever the button gets triggered (I'd add a second delay before calling the service)

[junior ridge]

The original goal was pushing the button once starts an 'alert' script of sending phone notifications and flashing a lamp, then a second press stopping the flashing lamp

[sudden yarrow]

Maybe it sends zha_event events when pressing it in triggered mode. The alarm_control_panel entity will not reset on a second triggering

[junior ridge]

Okay, I'll do more exploring later on, I'm getting ready to head out in a half hour or so, but now that I know what to look for, I should be able to sort the coding myself. Thanks for the help!

[sudden yarrow]

In the dev tools you can see the received data, if you listen to zha_event in the events tab

[junior ridge]

true, true

eventually I'm going to put a wall panel in using an old tablet or something, which would give another option, but i have to find the tablet and mounting hardware first

[proven pelican]

man I've had it up to here with these damn Sengled bulbs lol, they are such crap. Anyone have a good recommendation for zigbee bulbs?

[forest cobalt]

Hue or Ikea. I ditched most of my Zigbee bulbs and went WiFi.

[grim igloo]

hue bulbs are the way to go man

[hybrid cloud]

is thre any way to check if a light uses tunable white or just approximates it with rgb?

[hybrid cloud]

Also, I set up these new sengled E1F-N5E lights and put them in a zigbee group and they aren't coordinated when I turn them on and off. I use other bulbs from the same brand and I've never had this issue before. Is there anything I can do to fix this?

[ashen bluff]

coordinated
What do you mean by that?

[carmine hamlet]

You have to control the zigbee group to control all the devices in it simultaneously. Just controlling one of the group participants won't affect other group participants

[hollow venture]

Continuing my discussion from #hardware-archived message here

Should I get a sonoff USB to zigbee adapter for 20 eur or wait and get the home assistant skyconnect for 38 eur?
*check the linked message for photos and details, can't send those here

[forest cobalt]

Skyconnect (ZBT-1) > Sonoff.

[hollow venture]

Will wait then

[weak dirge]

Looks like my Zigbee Shield is dead, is there a 'best recommended zigbee coordinator to buy' for zigbee2mqtt or just HA in general?

[hybrid cloud]

Yeah I have them set up in a zigbee group and am controlling them via the group and they're just inconsistent, but I ended up returning them anyways cause they were just poor quality so it's probably a bulb issue

[grim igloo]

either cc2652p7 or the newer chipset efr32 (like skyconnect, sonoff e dongle use altho e dongle uses older variant iirc) is what is suggested these days. the latter more suggested for people willing to beta test in z2m

[weak dirge]

SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus Gateway, Universal Zigbee USB Gateway with Antenna for Home Assistant, IoBroker, Wireless Zigbee 3.0 USB Adapter?

[grim igloo]

that doesnt specify which dongle it is but it's prob the e

https://tubeszb.com/product/cc2652p7-zigbee-to-poe-coordinator-2023/ i have and suggest this non usb device

[sweet imp]

Hi again, I said it was the battery but before the new batteries arrived I re-seated the old ones in the affected Sonoff motion sensors and it works so far. I mean these sensors were in operation for about 2 months no more. How long do these batteries last I mean CR2450?

[forest cobalt]

My CR2450s used to last from 2 months to 6 months depending on the sensor and the temperature around the sensor.

[magic vessel]

Hey all! I'm using a Ring alarm system currently and while I like it, I'm trying to get less cloud dependent. Ring has a device called a Retrofit kit which you can wire existing contact sensors into, and it'll report those zones back to Ring. I'm looking for something similar that operates on Zigbee or Zwave but don't know what search terms to even use. Any help would be appreciated!

[sour shadow]

Hey all! I'm using a Ring alarm system

[sweet imp]

do you mean it will last longer indoors than outdoors?
so 2-6 months looks expected, they report 100% but I reckon this is a dummy figure that never gets updated in these sensors

[forest cobalt]

Typically, yeah. Higher heat will cause a battery to drain faster. As for the battery reporting, it's hit or miss with Sonoff devices and others have the same problem as well. MY solution is that I typically replace batteries on a schedule regardless of what they report.

[sweet imp]

ok, cool so the idea is to keep it away from heat sources e.g. radiators and sun facing windows

[sour shadow]

I just replace the battery when the device goes offline

[forest cobalt]

Or, get devices that have better batteries and aren't Sonoff. 😉 For instance, I have an Aqara contact sensor in my mailbox that has been on the same battery since December. The temp in my mailbox goes above 140F easily. Battery is still going strong.

https://imgur.com/a/FNQYTk0

[sweet imp]

does the battery maker make any difference?

[forest cobalt]

It could? Maybe?

[sweet imp]

I think it's basically Duracell and others

[forest cobalt]

IIRC, I was using cree batteries for the longest time. They seemed to do pretty well.

[supple moat]

Does anyone have experience with IKEA smart blinds?
I have one blind which is paired but will not report position. No matter which position it is in, it reports 50% to HA.
Open/close commands work, but the correct position is not available in HA

[austere patio]

If you're using ZHA, click "reconfigure" on the device

[supple moat]

I reconfigured several times and nothing appears to have changed - also repaired a few times, no change

I cannot see an option to delete the cover in HA, otherwise I would delete it and repair as well

[austere patio]

Does any part of reconfiguration succeed?

[supple moat]

Yes, the reconfiguration succeeds but then the issue remains

[austere patio]

Expand the dialog and take a screenshot, it'll show you exactly what is configured

It's up to the device to send updates when its position changes. If that reporting subscription fails to be set up, you won't receive the updates

[supple moat]

ok thanks - just went to reconfigure again to get the SS and reconfiguration failed. Gonna try again to get a SS

[austere patio]

You may need to try a couple of times. Maybe even trigger the blind to start moving and then click the button

[supple moat]

Ok thanks - I cant post screenshots but I can see a Window Covering Attribute with current lift position. Im assuming this is what needs to be properly configured / seen by HA

[austere patio]

Yep

[supple moat]

Reconfiguring isnt working now - tried 4 times in a row. Im going to repair, but is there some way to manually delete the device from HA? I dont see any options to remove it

[austere patio]

To the right of the Reconfigure button is a three dot menu. In it is a "Remove" button. Note that this won't actually work as you expect if your device is unreachable, you can only ask a device to leave the network, you can't kick it

[supple moat]

Thank you! My theming made the three dots hard to see, I see it now

the device shows up, so hopefully the remove works. Much appreciated!

[austere patio]

Another thing to try is to pull the battery and put it back in, to reboot the device and cause it to re-join the network

[supple moat]

if the repairing doesnt solve it, I will do that! Thanks for the tip

[supple moat]

hmmm... resetting and repairing didnt work, now I have no controls.
Removing and re-inserting the battery doesnt seem to help either.

Anyone have any further ideas? at this point I guess I'll just leave it alone and hope it resolves itself on the network?

[lime drift]

After reset, did you pair it using the closest router available ?

[austere patio]

It sounds like the device isn't able to communicate properly. Is your coordinator on a USB extension cable and away from USB 3.0 ports, SSDs, networking cabinets, wifi routers, and so on?

[supple moat]

I’m not sure how to choose which router to pair it through, it’s in the same room as the zigbee dongle (which is away from any interference, there’s a pretty robust zigbee network throughout the home)

Its connected to ZHA again, but still cannot read current position or battery % (previously it was reading battery %). Gonna take the battery out and put back in, then wait and see if it can update itself

[lime drift]

Do you see the atributes of your device in ZHA?

[supple moat]

When looking at the device page I can see Battery % but it lists as unknown
position also lists as unknown

controls appear on the device tab (up/down/stop) but do not work

[lime drift]

Do you have LQI value ?

[supple moat]

Nope

[lime drift]

Have you enabled it first ?

[supple moat]

How do I do that?

(its enabled in device settings if that what you mean, unsure of how to specifically enable LQI)

[lime drift]

It's on the "main" screen of the zigbee device with other info like 'Device Info", "controls"... you should see a value beween 100 and 255

[supple moat]

yes, LQI is an option under entities but does not report a value

[lime drift]

Zigbee devices only connect from time to time... some are very slow

I restarted HA 25 minues ago, and my IR sensors have not yet sent anything, so LQI is "unknown"

[supple moat]

Sounds good, thanks. I am gonna wait a few days and if it still doesnt connect I'll probably just exchange it and hope the new one connects.

[lime drift]

there is no physical button on your device to move up/down ?

[supple moat]

There are physical buttons on the blinds for up and down. You push them both at the same time to enter pairing mode.

[austere patio]

Your issue is likely with your Zigbee network, not the device. If the device is able to join but you can't communicate with it, it sounds like there is RF interference near the coordinator.

[supple moat]

Coordinator = the zigbee stick? (Sonoff 2.0 USB)

I'll move HA and the zigbee stick and see what shakes

[austere patio]

Is it on a USB extension cable?

[supple moat]

It is not, it hasnt needed it until now. Its connected to about 60 devices with no issues so far

[austere patio]

You 100% need one

[supple moat]

I moved the HA box and put the Sonoff on an extension cable with no change

[supple moat]

Okay I think its resolved - when pairing, it needs the Zigbee repeater that it came with (theyre factory paired)
Once its paired with HA, the repeater can be unplugged and removed. But it needs to be on and active when you initially pair.

I dont believe RF interference or repeater location mattered, its an IKEA factory pairing thing

[weak dirge]

hi, i just added a device to zibee2mqtt i am using hassos and the built in mqtt server. the device shows up in z2m and i can control it from the z2m dashboard, but i am not seeing the device in home asisstant, am i missing something?

i see it in mqtt using mqtt explorer, but it seems ha is not picking it up?

nevermind i forgot the mqtt broker

its been awhile since i set it up last

[surreal harbor]

Im thinking about buying some zigbee sensors. If I buy a Sonoff zigbee bridge, will that work with any zigbee device no matter what brand, or do I need a bridge for each brand?

[weak dirge]

any zigbee device

at least as far as i am aware. i bought the sonoff without regard to devices and have used it for sensors, blinds, lights, switches, etc.

[surreal harbor]

I’m torn between zigbee and z-wave. I’ve been using mostly wifi devices but I would like to get away from them

[peak bramble]

what is the difference between the CC2652 P2 and CC2652 P7 version of the TubesZB coordinator? is there a downside to choosing the (seemingly) newer model? [https://tubeszb.com/product/cc2652p7-zigbee-to-poe-coordinator-2023/]

edit: whoops should have read further.

[grim igloo]

The 2652P7 has double the flash storage and SRAM compared to the CC2652P2

i think this translates to bigger routing tables - i have the p7

[peak bramble]

I jumped the gun, should have read further. ultimately says stuck on a FW from 20230507

[grim igloo]

ya

but the recommended fw for cc2652p2 is the previous version

if you want the new chipset buy the efr32

~~@molten linden maybe worth removing (Possibly upgradeable to Thread/Matter with concurrent Zigbee in the future, currently not advised and experimental, buggy) since that's been abandoned for now for https://tubeszb.com/product/efr32-mgm24-poe-coordinator/~~thx

[peak bramble]

I'm ultimately looking to get a PoE coordinator. was looking at tubesZB over zigstar since it wasn't shipping from china. do you have any other recommendations?

[grim igloo]

i like and use the tube's p7 😛

[peak bramble]

even if the p7 is stuck at 5dBi, I would imagine that's still an improvement over my current conbee II usb coordinator

[grim igloo]

the guys are all suggesting the efr32 even for z2m these days or zha

i still wouldnt use it myself but maybe a better option

[peak bramble]

and of course I'm on z2m..

[surreal harbor]

So if I bought Aqara zigbee door sensors, they would connect with the Sonoff zigbee bridge?

Even though it says requires Aqara hub?

[carmine hamlet]

yes, they will connect to any Zigbee coordinator

[surreal harbor]

Okay awesome!

[weak dirge]

I have some blinds in zigbee2mqtt that I am controlling with HA. I have a set of 3 blinds for example in my hallway which has 3 windows, and I want to setup something in the UI so that all 3 blinds are operated by the same buttons (up, down, 50%). i dont need to control them individually but that would also be nice

is that a question for grouping in z2m or something more with uI in lovelace?

[wild mortar]

You just want a helper group. https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/group/ You’ll still be able to control them individually, but the helper can be added to your dashboard and let you control all 3 at once.

Go to settings>devices & services> helpers

If you have more questions #frontend-archived @weak dirge

[weak dirge]

what are the groups in z2m used for then? are they essentially the same thing?

[wild mortar]

i don’t use z2m to be honest, I use zha, so I’m not sure.

But reading through some of the documentation, yes. The built in method I linked seems way simpler though.

[short galleon]

Has anyone gotten the Aqara E1 blinds to work nicely with HA? I can’t figure out how to set a open and close state since like 1% difference on the slider is half the blinds

[wild mortar]

Check the Aqara documentation for instructions on setting the upper and lower limit of the blinds. This is usually a setting done on the hardware itself.

[gritty nimbus]

Does someone know a bit about ZBDongle-P from Sonoff ? I'm trying to reset it by flashing a firmware but I'm not able to put the dongle in Bootloader mode... I choose the second method of https://sonoff.tech/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/SONOFF-Zigbee-3.0-USB-dongle-plus-firmware-flashing.pdf. It says to use Serial Port Assistant to put the dongle in Bootloader but I don't know how to use it...

[sour shadow]

Keep pressing the Boot button, restart the device, and release the Boot button after Dongle enters the serial port
That may be easier

Personally, use cc2538-bsl

[forest cobalt]

Groups in ZHA/Z2M create a separate entity like groups in HA do, but they are different in that the coordinator handles the commands to the devices instead of HA.

[forest cobalt]

I can help if they are like the E1 curtian motors (should be very similar). Are you using ZHA or Z2M?

[short galleon]

Pretty sure ZHA

Thing is I can’t configure it via the buttons anymore as they no longer work to set presets once connected to a hub

Manual says to use the Aqara app to set it

[forest cobalt]

When you say you can't configure it via the buttons, are there errors in the logs when you try that? Ignore the manual as they want you to connect them to their hub.