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sour shadow
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Exceptions are Sengled bulbs and most two-wire switches or dimmers

elder surge
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Hmmm. Guessing the dongle would need flashed?

sour shadow
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Yes

elder surge
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I'm using a contact sensor on my mailbox. It's a little weak signal. The plug might work.

lofty stag
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so I have a conbee II stick and thinkinf of switch to a Sonoff dongle plus-e
as I have many nodes and I don't want to configure everything from beggining I would like to ask if the migration is easy or do I have to worry about something?

sour shadow
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Do you use ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT

heavy latch
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since a couple of weeks ago, my z2m addon restarts randomly, I didn't notice until I was looking at logs when it was restarting and failing to come back up. I need some help to troubleshoot. Using tubez poe coordinator and HAOS. 44 Devices been working great for years.

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I'm a little out of date, but I have heard people talking about it yes

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I think anything that uses the 2652 chip is working well

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You could use some zigbee smart plugs as routers

elder surge
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if i get sonoff EFR32MG21 to extend my network, how do you flash it to do so?

coarse musk
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I've been trying to add support for a device in Z2MQTT. This is about as far as I could get with the time that I have. Can anyone advise how to remove the non working exposes and then do the uh, PR and pull stuff that I've got NFI how to do?

https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt/issues/21206

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Also, the issue asked for the database.db contents from that device but I wasn't able to find where that is...

formal jolt
flint nova
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I'm trying to add an IKEA Tradfri light (TRADFRI bulb E14 WS candle 470l) to HA Green with SkyConnect but it doesn't find it. It pairs with Philips Hue just fine. Any advice?

barren snow
flint nova
brazen sierra
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hello there,

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i need a little help wit my ZB-GW03. its configured for mqtt, but it streams all devices in the same topic (e.g. tele/tasmota_2D69EC/SENSOR = {"ZbReceived":{"0xCCE1":{"Device":"0xCCE1","Temperature":20.32,"Humidity":63.79,"Endpoint":1,"LinkQuality":110}}})

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how can i make it discoverable?

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my configuration.yaml:
mqtt:
sensor:
- name: "0xCCE1"
unique_id: "0xCCE1"
state_topic: "tele/tasmota_2D69EC/SENSOR"
value_template: "{{ value_json.Temperature }}"
unit_of_measurement: "°C"
- name: "0xCCE1"
unique_id: "0xCCE1"
state_topic: "tele/tasmota_2D69EC/SENSOR"
unit_of_measurement: "%"
value_template: "{{ value_json.Humidity }}"

brazen sierra
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any hints what is wrong with my config?

rapid dawnBOT
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sour shadow
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my configuration.yaml:

visual summit
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Hi all! I have a https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/BRT-100-TRV.html (or at least something that looks and works like it) attached to HA via Zigbee2Mqtt. Everything seems to work, but "programming mode" is only a free-form string field. Is there a way to get UI for it?

sour shadow
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No chance of getting a UI in HA unfortunately

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That's effectively free-form text, since every TRV does their own thing

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Personally I let HA handle all that and have the TRV just in heat all the time

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(well, that or away for when the room isn't in use)

visual summit
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Can I write my own UI? Since I'm going to buy 3 more of these it might warrant the effort...

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Oh wait

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HA can do the same weekly program, too?

sour shadow
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Sure

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Calendar or schedule, whatever you want

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With a calendar you can get really creative - list the set temperature, default to another value if there's no entry, turn it off when you're not home, etc

visual summit
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"Not being home" detection is also something to think about. Not sure if I'll be able to convince flatmate and his girlfriend to also install the app on their phones. Perhaps if it seems useful enough.

sour shadow
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You don't need apps, you can do it passively

visual summit
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Will check by there, too, thanks 🙂

dense zenith
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Grateful for any advice, as totally stuck! I've tried following the instructions for "Zigbee2MQTT LXC" here https://tteck.github.io/Proxmox/ and also the slightly more detailed instructions here: https://smarthomescene.com/guides/how-to-separate-zigbee2mqtt-from-home-assistant-in-proxmox/ Most recently with the latter instructions my yaml file looks like this: https://dpaste.org/jBF2X (note I have removed my actual username/pass - but they match my MQTT installation in a separate LXC - again created with Tteck script.) However I am getting an error after saving the updated yaml and trying to start Zigbee2MQTT as shown here: https://dpaste.org/rsn1F - any ideas very warmly recieved! thanks

sour shadow
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You've checked that the device is passed into the LXC?

dense zenith
# sour shadow You've checked that the device is passed into the LXC?

How do I confirm that the device has been passed? With my HA VM, there is a hardware tab in proxmox where I know you can "add" a usb device for pass through. But Z2M is on a LXC, and clicking onto the LXC in Proxmox doesn't have a hardware tab. I can't see how you allocate the hardware to the LXC. Thanks

sour shadow
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No idea, don't use LXC, and I certainly don't use scripts like that which hide everything from me

dense zenith
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Thanks - had a read of that. I will try on tteck's github page too.

summer thicket
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#adapter: ezsp #(uncomment for ITead Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus V2 model "ZBDongle-E version")
From the example configuration.yaml

dense zenith
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Thanks very much - starring me in the face all this time!

summer thicket
sour shadow
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Sure, but I bet that far less than 1% bother, and less than that understand it 😛

dense zenith
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Well despite the fact I can't read the YAML, I did look at the script... (how else would I know what the defaults were!) 😄

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Just thinking through my set-up here: I understood the advantage of running Z2M in its own LXC (as opposed to a HA addon) was so that if you need to restart HA, you don't lose the status of all your switches. And I'm probably going to be restarting HA a fair bit, at least at first. But is there an advantage to having MQTT itself in its own LXC? Although I've got it set-up, I'm minded to just use MQTT addon within HA to save the complexity of another LXC.

violet wave
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hi all, it seems that deconz gets stuck from time to time : 2024-02-04 07:37:33.362 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.application] Max concurrency (8) reached, delaying request (5119 enqueued)

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is there anything I can do to troubleshoot this ? seems it's since the 2024.x update

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I checked the logs but there isn't anything obvious

summer thicket
wise moss
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I basically did the same thing as xytrip and used the same guides / templates (tteck HAOS VM and z2m lxc).
Now to my problem: How do I tell HAOS to fuck off and leave the sonoff stick alone? When I shut HAOS down, the z2m lxc actually works, but when HAOS is on, it immediately fails, since HAOS "snatches" the stick... I guess...?
https://dpaste.org/ebFwQ

wise moss
jagged estuary
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Can anybody recommend me any good Zigbee receivers for motorized blinds? Should look something like this

dense zenith
# summer thicket Yes, Z2M needs MQTT to stay functional.

Thanks - guess I'll stick with the separate LXC install. Got a weird issue where I can ping the IP for the M2Z and MTTQ LXCs from my laptop - but they aren't showing up in my router (Unifi UDM Pro) control panel and can't seem to get the web interface for them. Can I just check (for Tteck script versions), do the LXC's need to be manually started on boot. E.g.: if I was to rebook the LXC from proxmox, do I need to re-type mosquitto in the console? Or does it reboot and launch automatically. Second, for both MTTQ and M2Z, if I view the console screen in proxmox for each, the screen is just black. I can type, but there is no command prompt. Is that normal?

dense zenith
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(got web interface of Zigbee2MQTT now)

frigid quartz
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On z2m website, there are the only actions available for the moment

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ight large ( top ) push on
Light large ( top ) hold brightness_move_up
Light large ( top ) release brightness_stop


Light small ( bottom ) push off
Light small ( bottom ) hold brightness_move_down
Light small ( bottom ) release brightness_stop


Arrow left push arrow_left_click
Arrow left hold arrow_left_hold
Arrow left release arrow_left_release


Arrow right push arrow_right_click
Arrow right hold arrow_right_hold
Arrow right release arrow_right_release

summer thicket
dense zenith
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Great - thank-you. Not paired a device yet, but think it might all be working! I've got a grand total of two zigbee devices to pair. These are going to be the move over-engineered kitchen lights in the area!

arctic crane
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I want to learn form a to z all about Zigbee Integration where to start? i do have HA installed in PC.

sour shadow
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About Zigbee, or the ZHA integration, or Zigbee2MQTT?

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There's a number of pinned messages, plus obviously the Zigbee spec, which can help with the first

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The ZHA and Z2M docs can help with the others

frigid quartz
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My guess would be z2m? But did not find anything there. I found a blueprint on HA which seems to have this action.

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What I don't get is if this action is not available in z2m how can HA pick up this action even if with the help of a blueprint

jagged estuary
mild mulch
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Hello! Using Z2M with a Tuya M100 presence sensor. I'm trying to adjust the radar range values but constantly get "no convert available for radar_range" ): Anyone have any insight into why this could be?

snow roost
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does yours display units in meters?

formal jolt
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So I've tried a longer cable and I'm still having the same issue where it'll register one or two (or a few) devices when scanning, and then not again seemingly until I change versions. I'm not sure what it is about changing versions that allows the scan to work again (I tried just a service restart and that doesn't do it). Additionally, the devices I'm adding right now are about 10ft away from the dongle.

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Also, is there a dongle that works better than the Sonoff-E / won't have these issues, or do you think the dongle isn't the problem?

mellow geode
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I don’t think the dongle is the problem in this case. I’m pretty sure your issue is still interference

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What values are showing up when downloading the diagnostics now?

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Channel 25 still the one with the least amount of interference? Maybe switch to that then

formal jolt
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let me check, I think last I knew 20 was lowest (in the 60s)

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actually I think you're right, 25 seems to be a bit better right now:
https://dpaste.org/tG5i5
If the issue is intereference, it wouldn't happen with zigbee devices that are literally right next to it (within 5 feet) right? It happens regardless of the distance of the device, seemingly. I can try switching channels rq though.

formal jolt
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yea, still having the issue after changing channels :/

snow roost
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dumb idea: have you tried resetting your dongle

formal jolt
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I have. Also tried flashing the firmware to the one suggested from the default SONOFF firmware, still no dice :/

snow roost
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@formal jolt are any of your devices repeaters?

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your new devices might be trying to join a repeater that doesn't work properly

mellow geode
formal jolt
snow roost
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are they all off when you fiddle with the coordinator

formal jolt
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no not usually, they're usually on

mellow geode
formal jolt
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18 >_>

snow roost
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yeah you might want to try turning those off when you fiddle with the coordinator

mellow geode
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You can see if a device is a router on the device page or in the visualization (other shape, stretched circle are routers and normal circles are end-devices)

formal jolt
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yeaaaa they're all circles 😢

formal jolt
snow roost
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it's safe to use newer firmware on the e dongle btw they actually make things more reliable

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I'm on Coordinator revision
7.3.2.0 build 212 whatever that means I forget

formal jolt
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yea that was just kind of a "known good" one @mellow geode recommended while we were figuring out this issue

formal jolt
snow roost
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philips hue bulbs?

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you're using a bunch of light bulbs anyways why not 😂

mellow geode
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Mostly Hue bulbs here, but any others should also work (except Sengled). Smart plugs are also a good option

snow roost
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what color temp are your lights? you can get a sunlight yellow open box hue for $13

formal jolt
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RGB, heh

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Phillips works for me, I can look at their offerings. It seems odd Sengled left out the repeating functionality...isn't that pretty key to how zigbee works scales? Didn't they kinda break the standard by doing that?

snow roost
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not all devices need to be routers

formal jolt
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I thought anything that was AC powered was supposed to be though

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I guess that's what I get for goin cheap amazon special 😐

snow roost
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there's the opposite issue, devices not working with certain routers

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hilarious!

formal jolt
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is it devices not implementing the spec correctly, or the spec not being clear enough?

snow roost
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nobody knows

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how do you enjoy those bulbs btw 🤔

formal jolt
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I like them but on some, the color temperature is not uniform with the others, and I think it's because I didn't buy them all at the same time

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like if I set the bulbs at my bar area to white, two turn white, one turns greenish-white

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it might also be because they're a slightly different model (still all RGB, but like one letter off the model number)

snow roost
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check out that hue model I linked if you need sunlight yellow. I don't know where all of these came from but the last one I bought was brand new unopened

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and the other one I bought came from eBay from some dude that had 200 open boxes...

formal jolt
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oof, I usually stick to RGB because I sometimes work weird hours, and having red on low brightness is wayyyyy nicer on my eyes than white

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(or yellow)

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with networking gear (I'm a network engineer) I see a lot of interoperability issues between "standardized" things (classic example: IPSec), but usually they're as a result of either $vendor doing something janky (HINT HINT CISCO), or the spec not being clear enough to prevent issues

snow roost
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you can also buy extra dongles and load router firmware on them

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only makes sense if you buy the plasticky ezsp sticks that don't cost much

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I've never used ipsec, wireguard spoiled my monkey brain 🐒

formal jolt
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oh I use wireguard everywhere now, I've just done things with IPsec. Don't. It's terrible...just don't lol

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and super complex for what it is too

snow roost
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also dumb idea: try using the dongle on bare metal

formal jolt
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Tried that, sat it on the server rack..it was actually worse. I can't think of any other big metal objects to put it on

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(on as in outside of it, on the steel case)

snow roost
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oh I mean not passing it to a VM

formal jolt
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OH, derp, I misunderstood. Yeah I haven't tried that ..that would be a bit of an undertaking since most of my stuff is virtualized, though tbh it shouldn't make any difference the way it's being done... though that does make me wonder if maybe changing the USB controller type from qemu-xhci might help

snow roost
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if you run out of stuff to troubleshoot you can also try using z2m instead, my e dongle works okay with it

formal jolt
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Yeah, I might do that. i think I'm gonna try a new cable (the one i have currently works, but I'd prefer one that isn't as crappy) and one or two of those Phillips bulbs in RGB form first though, see if that helps

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Ty for the assistance, y'all have been very helpful

snow roost
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hey look a big FAQ

scarlet gust
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is it possible to migrate between a USB radio (SkyConnect) and a network one (Tubeszb CC2652P2 based coordinator) using the migrate option in the UI?

mellow geode
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With ZHA, yes

scarlet gust
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thanks, should have mentioned that I was talking about ZHA, and great!

thin kayak
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I'm using Z2MQTT with a Sonoff P stick, all fine, except on the 2nd floor my sensors keep losing connection. Repairing will work for a short time, but then they get lost again

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Routers are either Blitzwolf Smart plugs, or IKEA GU10 spots

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Any suggestions on how to solve this?

sour shadow
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Did you pair those through the ikea spots, or let them pick, or...?

thin kayak
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First I just did a join all, but I did find the IKEA GU10 spots might not be the best routers, so I also tried with selecting a Blitzwolf plug

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But repairing them is a bit of a pain anyway, have to press and hold the button a couple of times before they get picked up

sour shadow
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Usually Xiaomi devices are happy with Ikea, but I know they changed the firmware and chips at one point

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They are very happy with Innr, which forms the backbone of my own setup

thin kayak
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okay, I might give that a try. Alternative is replacing the door/window sensors with IKEA Parasoll. For the temp/humidy sensor I still have a BT replacement in my drawer. That would leave the button

sour shadow
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If you can find them on AliExpress the Terncy door/window sensors are neat

thin kayak
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Ah, I'll have a look

sour shadow
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I've got half a dozen of them and have been very happy with them - though they wouldn't pair to my ZZH only my Sonoff P

thin kayak
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Well, got everything paired again now (the multi sensor had an empty battery)

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let's see how it goes now. Otherwise I'm going to try either adding other routers, or replacing the sensors

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Thanks!

harsh mango
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I'm going crazy. My home lights are all showing as ON in HA, but they are NOT on. They should not be on either, as the last state we left them in was OFF. In the log, it shows that they were turned on 7 hours ago while we were asleep, but it does not list who or what turned them on. I have disabled almost every piece of automation except for one that only turns on/off the outside lights. That one automation does not have anything to do with the internal lights. Someone in the #automations-archived chat said that it's the integration taking it over. Why would the lights be reporting back that they are on when they are not?

sick ridge
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Hi Guys, I have a project for our trainees in my office building where I want to build up a zigbee network with them. But we have issues to create a working mesh through concrete walls. At the moment we have 8 sonoff power outlets every few meters, but I cant reach from one office room over the hall to another office room.
The idea is now to use ethernet to connect the HA Server with several ethernet to zigbee devices. Has anyone experience with something similar? what devices work, is there a possiblity that these zigbee networks act as one connected with ethernet bridges?
or more simple: How to setup zigbee in a concrete office building?

harsh mango
proper dock
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Any else have the new Vallhorn Ikea motion sensor ? I'm getting a ton of false readings from mine. It's in a room with the door closed and no fans yet every hours or so it reads as detecting occupancy. Wanted to know if this is expected for motion sensors or I got a special one. should specifiy I am running ZHA not zigbee2mqtt. When I tried to get it setup it was causing alot of headache and no obvious benefit at the time.

storm ibex
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Does anyone have a link to somewhere that can help troubleshoot why a custom quirk wont apply?
Cannot seem to get anywhere, logs show the quirks are loading, but they just never end up on the devices and i cannot work out why

clever cedar
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Guys I need help, I’m losing it…. My zigbee2mqtt randomly disconnects from the coordinator (connected by ethernet by poe) everything is perfect, it works flawlessly but from time to time zigbee2mqtt reboots and doesn’t want to connect anymore the messaje in the logs reads :

Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms

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I’m really considering dumping all this zigbee thing

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Please is like the 4th time this week and it gets back without reason

sour shadow
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That's either a problem with your network, or the coordinator

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What coordinator and what firmware version?

clever cedar
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Its the slzb-06 with the last firmware 2.0.11

fathom hamlet
clever cedar
sour shadow
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Just post in the channel, it doesn't need my attention specifically

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Doubly so as you're running an experimental coordinator

sour shadow
fathom hamlet
rapid dawnBOT
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@fathom hamlet When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

sour shadow
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And.. there's no "work around"

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Were there one it'd be documented

fathom hamlet
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okay 😦 Thanks.

clever cedar
rapid dawnBOT
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@clever cedar When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

sour shadow
clever cedar
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I’ll reach to them first them it worked for 1 whole year

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Thanks

sour shadow
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Many possible problems - an update to the firmware, an update to Z2M, both

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Hell, the next release of Z2M will have some more fixes for EZSP

urban wyvern
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very new to setting up z2m in home assistant. i have the HA mqtt broker running, and it seems to get the devices from z2m fine. i see some people specifying a user/pass in z2m configuration, do I need to add a user/pass to my mqtt broker? is it secure if i dont?

sour shadow
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Not if you use add-ons you don't

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Then the Z2M add-on does magic behind the scenes to get the authentication details it needs

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(that's why the Z2M add-on docs tell you to leave all that blank)

clever cedar
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Oh but mine is not the experimental version, mine has a zstack firmware

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Is SLZB-06 the experimental is the M version

sour shadow
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Then you made up the version number

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Because CC2652 firmware isn't numbered like that

clever cedar
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CC2652 is the zigbee chip in the coordinator

sour shadow
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Then the firmware version isn't 2.0.1

clever cedar
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My bad it was the cordinator software version

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I’ll reach out again when i get home

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But its suposed to be the latest C2652

patent gazelle
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looking to get a 2 pack of sonoff snzb-03 motion sensors for 2 washrooms. Thoughts? Buy or avoid?

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so thats a no then lol

sour shadow
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There's mixed (at best) results with Sonoff's devices - many of the sensors fall off the mesh, and some of their mains devices are downright terrible routers

patent gazelle
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my aqara first version of p1 is rock solid, I'm replacing another cus my eve motion just died. I'll get the upgraded aqara p1, but i need 2 more for low traffic areas and id like to go as cheap as possible

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any thoughts on thirdreality?

clever cedar
sour shadow
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I know that’s why I’m reaching again

sour shadow
patent gazelle
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oh nice, ill have a look then thanks!

olive stag
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Hey all,

Immediately after updating to the latest HA OS all my ZigBee lights have become unresponsive.

I've tried the buttons on my dashboard but also the motion based automations arent working

My tado thermostat is working so I believe it's just ZigBee.

I've tried restarting HA and also do a quick reload.

I'm running HA over Proxmox and my ZigBee stuff is controlled with a conbee2 stick (with 0,5m USB cable)

Any advice?

olive stag
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Meanwhile I'll look into how to downgrade an addon

grim igloo
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if you're using the z2m addon then it's the addon lol

olive stag
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Aaah sorry I interpreted that differently

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I think I've got it running again.

I've restarting the z2m add-on individually... Twice..
Then all the motion based lights that were on switched off and my buttons are working again.

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Strange that a full HA restart didn't solve this too, right?

grim igloo
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Do you mean an haos reboot?

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Home assistant restart doesn’t restart the addons it restarts ‘home assistant core’

raven jewel
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You can restart the individual add-ons in HAOS, it's right there on the add-on page.

opaque helm
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Why some connections between routers got higher first number(106/64)and other 2nd number(120/170) in z2mqtt map?
What's the difference?

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Is this received/transmitted signal between them?

undone quail
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Hello everyone i wonder to home many zigbee bridges i can connect with the ZHA integration in HA, Thx !

raven jewel
sour shadow
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One "bridge" (coordinator hopefully) can handle hundreds of devices

undone quail
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Thank You Tinkerer ,just 1 bridge? ....a friend of mine bought a huge house and live with parents etc, one bridge for the garden , one for house 1 and one for the other side of the building

sour shadow
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What is "huge"?

raven jewel
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He needs routers, not extra bridges.

sour shadow
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And even then, ZHA supports one, and only one

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You'd need multiple Zigbee2MQTT installs - one for each additional coordinator

undone quail
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bridge 1 can't "see" bridge 2 , the distance is sadly the isssue there

sour shadow
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Well, unless you're talking 100 meters you just put (Zigbee) routers in

undone quail
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and connect the local zigbee devices to each router ?

sour shadow
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Zigbee is a mesh, routers connect to routers, end devices connect to routers too

undone quail
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yes indeed

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thx both !

snow roost
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anyone have this first world problem

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im pretty sure my ham radios occascionally knock my zigbee devices offline

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i rag chewed, ran some errands came back and my porch light was just disconnected

snow roost
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flashed emberznet 7.4 on my ezsp, nothing interesting happened yet

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i noticed there's a firmware with a 230400 baud rate, does that improve anything?

clever cedar
# clever cedar Guys I need help, I’m losing it…. My zigbee2mqtt randomly disconnects from the c...

I think I've found the issue for those experiencing the same problem. The SMLight SLZB-06 usually auto-generates the Z2M or ZHA config for easy copy-pasting. The issue arises because (I don't know since when) the 'adapter' value in this image: https://ibb.co/JrG5bwj changed from 'zstack' to 'Unknown.' So, I went to my Z2M config file and simply removed the field, leaving just the address:port and baud rate, and everything worked again. I have contacted SMLight to get more information about this.

I had been experiencing random disconnections all week, and I hope this fix resolves the problem.

ashen bluff
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Do people not check what they paste in their config?

clever cedar
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It was working since last year, the problem began this week, the file was already there why does the coordinator config had to change suddenly?

elder surge
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i have a ZBDongle-E,EFR32MG21 coming tomorrow. how do i flash it to extend my network? and will it use the same channel as my main skyconnect dongle?

snow roost
elder surge
snow roost
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shouldn't matter

elder surge
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oh okay cool

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my mailbox is just out of reach so i wanted to put it closer

austere patio
#

Where are you able to plug in the Sonoff stick that a normal bulb or outlet can't go?

snow roost
#

uhhh if I had to use my imagination back of a monitor with usb ports

elder surge
#

cant i just run it off an USB charging block once i flash it?

snow roost
#

yes

elder surge
#

im going to put it in the living room

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which has a line of sight to my mailbox

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and i didnt want to use a light bulb or outlet because the sonoff would be stronger signal

elder surge
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is that just metal

snow roost
#

yes tinfoil in the shape of a corner

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🤪

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site has SSL issues so I pulled up the archive

elder surge
#

what if i unscrew the antenna on it and screw in a bigger one that i have?

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would that work

snow roost
#

would work too

snow roost
#

do you really need to use a yagi on a mailbox 😂

carmine hamlet
#

that's definitely gonna be an extra base hit for mailbox baseball

elder surge
#

maybe ill aim it down the street

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i also have one of these

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maybe i should plug it into that

snow roost
#

I've gotten 10 RSSI units of gain cladding this USPS box in tinfoil to make a corner reflector it's nutty how well it works

elder surge
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did you maintain the box shape?

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or did you cut it

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i dont think my wife would like a usps box in the window

snow roost
#

pop it open like a trifold

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the gain is related to how big the sides are

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and the angle of the corner

barren snow
#

at that point you should invest into LoRA ;D

ember raven
#

I'm running into a small problem that I can't remember how to fix. I have some TRVs on my radiators, and I use external sensors to give them a temperature. Both Aqara. Basically I have an automation that publishes the temperature from the external sensor every time it changes. But for some reason, the TRV isn't picking up the "publish" anymore, and I can't find out why

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I have no idea how to troubleshjoot

#

Hmm, this just popped up on the screen while in z2m... 2024-02-06 09:22:19No converter available for 'sensor_temp' (17.38)

ember raven
#
service: mqtt.publish
data:
  qos: "1"
  retain: false
  topic: |
    {{ "zigbee2mqtt/Small Study Radiator/set/sensor_temp" }}
  payload_template: |
    {{ trigger.to_state.state }}

I'm guessing somehow the payload is a string and it should be a float? Is that correct? And if so, how do I change it?

untold cipher
#

Hi all! I'm having issues with zigbee on the Home Assistant Yellow since i updated something recently. About once per day, i have to restart home assistant because there is an error with zigbee. Anyone else having similar issues?

undone quail
#

hello everyone i am trying to flash my sonof zigbee pro with tasmota or EspHome, which allows me to connect zigbee devices and make those devices visible in Home Assistant (using MQTT) . is there someone who successfully achieved this ?

undone quail
#

Yes , it's amazing , i really like Zigbee2MQTT , downside is that i just can connect 1 Coördinator , or i could run more Zigbee2MQTT containers and connect each to their own coordignator .....hmmm

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and in my weird case , i need 3 or 4 Coördinator with their own zigbee clients in HA

#

you brought me on a idea 🙂

sour shadow
#

Though normally you only need that for distant buildings, or many hundreds of devices

rapid dawnBOT
#

@visual estuary I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

visual estuary
#

hi guys! im moving my old supervised install over to HAOS and im setting up seperate containers, now my zigbee2mqtt container wont work:

(see above)

rapid dawnBOT
#

@visual estuary I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

visual estuary
#

the light on my adapter isnt on either

wanton ember
#

Hello! Looking for some device recommendations for my new (to me) house. I'm a little overwhelmed and could use help. I have Inovelli zigbee motion switches coming soon™️ and would like zigbee downlights as well.

Does anyone have any dimmable RGBW lights that they recommend that won't break the bank? Looking for power on behavior option too for when they are turned on and off

I'd also love to get some smart blinds too. I'm getting the electrical grounded anyway and would like to run power to the windows, but not sure what kind of power I would need.

Local control is preferred if possible! TIA for the help.

sour shadow
visual estuary
# sour shadow What adapter?

Zig-Zig-Ha! but i got that part working now. im repairing all my devices, and they're showing up in my z2M frontend with the right names etc. (by repairing i mean powercycling once and they're rejoining automagically)

#

i do have an issue tho, they're not being updated in HA it seems

#

im tinkering, once i have a solid question i'll be back

sour shadow
#

Check your broker settings

visual estuary
#

mqtt is running in a addon still

rapid dawnBOT
#

@visual estuary I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

visual estuary
#

DVES are all tasmota devices it seems

#

is the homeassistant part in my config correct if its not running as an addon?

warm parcel
#

Silly question, just making sure my own research is right before I buy anything. I want to be able to monitor when my clothes dryer is done; it's not a smart dryer, but my idea is to buy one of these and then use HA to ping me when it sees the usage drop back down. Is this the right product for that, and can it do this? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BPY2KRHH/

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I THINK it's the right one, and it's not like it'll be that expensive if it's not

sour shadow
#

Does your dryer use a standard 110V socket?

warm parcel
sour shadow
#

Then it should work

warm parcel
#

❤️ thanks my friend

#

you rock

sour shadow
#

As long as the plug fits, and the dryer doesn't need more than 16A you're fine

tropic depot
#

If the dryer is really old / not super efficient you may pop the plug when the motor starts

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A lot of these devices are meant for resistive loads

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And they don’t handle the surge of a motor starting well

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That said, it should be fine

warm parcel
#

Yeah, oooof, having a hard time finding how many amps it needs

tropic depot
#

The plugs are cheap

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I say try it

warm parcel
#

yeah, unless I'm reading this wrong, this dryer is 30 amp. Dang. I can at least hold on to the plug itself once it gets in

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oooh, my washer is 10 amps though, so that's something!

tropic depot
#

30 amps? On a std 110 plug?

#

Is the dryer 220?

ashen bluff
#

The manual says to use a 30 amp cord but best to check on the machine's itself.

sour shadow
#

Seems highly unlikely you've got a standard single phase 110V socket at 30A, based on what little I know about NA electrics

warm parcel
#

Yeah, I'm gonna go double check, I gotta be wrong on this

#

Well I am right on the number, it is definitely not a normal plug though

austere patio
#

What does it look like?

warm parcel
#

More of a triangle formation with the pieces angling together to form an acute triangle

#

with the piece at the top looking like a capital J

rapid dawnBOT
#

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

warm parcel
#

I...I haven't seen any power monitoring smart outlets like that. Unless I'm oblivious, which I've already proven is the case

ashen bluff
warm parcel
#

Well, in a month I may have a different dryer; my partner is moving in with me and is bringing their washer and dryer, so here's hoping!

#

Regardless, you all rock. Thank you so much

#

I want to really start getting into smart home stuff, but I rent, so I can't do anything too drastic and I want to try to come up with neat ideas at least

molten linden
#

just get a heat pump dryer and it will run on 110, and save a bunch of energy too. 😂 (but maybe wait for tax credits hopefully)

ashen bluff
#

I totally forgot that there's different kind of dryers.

molten linden
#

They appear to be slowly coming into the US market.

wanton wave
#

Is it possible to add Xbee S2c as router in ZHA?

austere patio
#

ZHA doesn't care what devices join the network. If you can get it into joining mode, it'll join.

#

You'll probably have a better time using a proper router device though, XBee devices are rare

wanton wave
#

my xbee has been flashed with router firmare but its not been recognized when searching for devies in zigbee integration

austere patio
#

ZHA doesn't search for devices: it allows devices to join if they try to. If your router doesn't, it isn't trying. Make sure you're following the reset procedure for it. Maybe it requires a button press or only does so for a few seconds after boot.

harsh mango
#

So I checked 2.4ghz wifi in my area, saw that channel 11 is relatively quiet. I made sure my AP was not auto changing to channel 11. i switched the coordinator to 26, turned everything off and went to bed. this morning, HA was once again showing my bedroom lights and a few others as "on" yet they were in fact off. i do not have any automations running that would do this. my wife and i were sleeping, we do not have any devices that would be pressing buttons or causing triggers. i was fairly certain that it wasnt due to interference since the coordinator is in the same room as the bulbs that were showing "on" when they arent. any other thoughts to try?

tropic depot
#

No errors in the logs?

harsh mango
tropic depot
#

Also, integration, coordinator type, devices that are impacted: manufacturer + model

harsh mango
tropic depot
#

Hrm. I’d enable debug logging and try to catch it while debug is on

bold nymph
#

Is there such thing as too many routers?

tropic depot
#

Yes but doubt you will hit it in a house

bold nymph
#

So how many is too many?

tropic depot
#

and too many is subjective

#

There is no hard limit

bold nymph
tropic depot
#

No

#

In general (really to the individual circumstances)

#

Generally have only seen commercial lighting applications complain of issues

#

Why are you asking?

#

Is there some specific problem you have?

bold nymph
#

even though almost more than half of my Zigbee devices are routers, I still have some dropped connections on some device

tropic depot
#

It’s nearly always device mix

#

Some devices just aren’t good

bold nymph
#

It shouldn't be interference since I got that handled

bold nymph
#

I bought them since I've never heard anyone complaining about them

tropic depot
#

There is a pinned message on this channel about older Aqara devices

#

Read through it

#

If you have any of the routers mentioned remove them as a test and see if things get better

bold nymph
#

This one?

tropic depot
#

Yep

bold nymph
#

Already read it

#

Router isn't listed

tropic depot
#

Figure out what they are a child of

bold nymph
tropic depot
#

Just because they aren’t listed specifically doesn’t mean they aren’t an issue

#

What are the routers?

#

Manufacturer/ models

bold nymph
tropic depot
#

So Tuya

#

Good luck

bold nymph
#

That bad huh?

tropic depot
#

Not all Tuya is but figuring out what is and isn’t is a full time job

#

Do you have any routers that aren’t Tuya?

#

If it were me I’d start removing the parents that are not working 1 by 1 and track what happens

bold nymph
#

The only one is Ikea bulbs

tropic depot
#

Those should hold Aqara just fine

bold nymph
#

Unfortunately I don't have neutral wires

tropic depot
#

IKEA should work… pull the Tuya plugs as a test and see if the issue goes away

bold nymph
#

the ikea bulbs are far from the aqara devices

tropic depot
#

May not matter though

#

It’s worth testing

bold nymph
#
  • it's a wall socket, so "pulling" isn't an option
tropic depot
#

Remove it from the network…

bold nymph
#

sure

tropic depot
#

You don’t need to physically remove it to do that

bold nymph
#

Can't I just pair it to the bulb directly

tropic depot
#

You can… but they can migrate on their own

#

Aqara tend to be sticky but 🤷‍♂️

bold nymph
#

I heared older Aqara devices would stick to their firs parent

#

sure then, I'll try

#

but just to clarify, it doesn't totally drop connection saying device offline

instead the devices doesn't update it state, like when the door closes, it stays as open, I have to press the button on the device to force refresh its state

bold nymph
tropic depot
#

Looks like no routers have links to them

#

I can’t offer any more guidance beyond what I have already

bold nymph
tropic depot
#

Is that after you push the button on it?

#

The maps aren’t realtime

bold nymph
#

Before

tropic depot
#

It either updates its state or it doesn’t?

bold nymph
tropic depot
#

The map is not real time

bold nymph
#

even though it's reporting its state normally

bold nymph
tropic depot
#

It’s updated at set intervals and is not indicative of the exact moment you look at it. It is Last known state

bold nymph
#

then why does it takes time to load every time you press "Load Map"?

tropic depot
#

I don’t use z2m so I have no idea… is there any sort of refresh button on it?

bold nymph
#

yep

#

I did press refresh

bold nymph
tropic depot
#

It’s not instant… the network topology needs to be read from all the routers

bold nymph
#

it took like a minute to refresh

tropic depot
#

Anyway… the map is not gospel. You are free to troubleshoot however you would like to

#

I have shared what I would try. I can’t help beyond that

bold nymph
#

So how would I know to what router it is connected to?

meager abyss
#

My z2m stoped 3 days ago anyone know the issue? I click the start cpu %34 and its gone %0

#

Addon not starting

sour shadow
#

What do the logs say?

graceful root
#

Hi everyone, since 3 days my Zigbee Network is totally unresponsive and EXTREMELY slow. With that I mean that switching a simple plug can take up to 15 minutes, sometimes HOURS and they happen way later.

I now enabled debug logging and it generated a 50MB log with over 140.000 rows within 3-4 minutes. Is anyone here that can give me assistance? This might started after updating home assistant, I'm using a Pi4 and a Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 stick. I can upload the log if anyone can take a look at it

#

I have 26 devices, this shoudn't be too much right?

austere patio
#

Do you have Tuya devices?

graceful root
#

yes

#

I have about 15 plugs

austere patio
#

Update to 2024.2.0b9 when it comes out

graceful root
#

so it was related to the latest HA update?

austere patio
#

It's possible. There were a few fixes that should help with Tuya devices.

runic condor
#

I have the LINKOZE Tuya Smart Wireless Switch (Zigbee) and it was working fine until yesterday when the buttons automation suddenly stopped working.

Looking at HA the sensors no longer show battery or anything and says ‘Action - None’ or ‘Action - Unknown’.

I have restarted HA and removed/re-added the device but no success.

Can anyone help me understand whats happened and how to fix it, please?

ember raven
#

I'm having some problems with an MQTT publish from an external sensor to my TRV. This is what I do in the automation:

service: mqtt.publish
data:
  qos: "1"
  retain: false
  topic: |
    {{ "zigbee2mqtt/Small Study Radiator/set/sensor_temp" }}
  payload_template: |
    {{ trigger.to_state.state }}
#

And it seems something changed with the formatting, because I get popups saying No converter available for 'sensor_temp'

#

I can't seem to figure out how to troubleshoot it

carmine hamlet
#

I doubt that it's the problem, but specifying the topic as a string in a template is weird

#

In fact, using MQTT directly for Z2M is weird

#

It supports discovery and exposes entities and services for that stuff

ember raven
#

How would you suggest that I achieve this in a more "normal" way?

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They are both Aqara devices, but I don't have an Aqara hub

sour shadow
#

The topic for the E1 changed in Z2M 1.35.2

ember raven
#

Ah, so that's one part of the problem, other than me doing the whole thing in a "weird" way 😄

sour shadow
ember raven
#

Thanks Tink, that should solve it!

carmine hamlet
#

It's just a string, so just provide the string

#

Unless you have some other reason to use a template

ember raven
#

You mean a different action altogether for my automation?

carmine hamlet
#

And usually you find the entity corresponding to the device you want to control and make a service call on it

#

No

#
topic: zigbee2mqtt/Small Study Radiator/set/sensor_temp
#

Exactly the same

ember raven
#

Ahh, gotcha. No idea why I used the string formatting, it's a while ago and I think I followed a guide

ember raven
carmine hamlet
#

That's the point, you don't worry about publishing

#

Find the entity that it exposes and call a service on it like everything else in HA

ember raven
#

Oh, like that. Yeah guess that makes sense. But is there a benefit/downside to either option? Seems just like different ways of doing it.

carmine hamlet
#

Yes, you wouldn't have had this issue

ember raven
#

Yeah that's true 🙂

carmine hamlet
#

It abstracts the whole communication path away

#

Who cares where the entity comes from or how it gets there?

ember raven
#

Indeed. Guess that doesn't matter

#

I actually didn't realise I can force a sensor setting within HA. Since I'm not changing a target temp but I'm giving the TRV an external sensor reading. I think that's why I did it this way. I believe back then I envisioned that I should even be able to let the temp sensor publish directly to the TRV whenever it publishes, even without using an automation and bypassing HA entirely.

carmine hamlet
#

You don't 'force a sensor setting'. The device should be exposed as something that can be controlled through services, like a climate entity

stiff crow
keen geode
#

Hello,
I do have zigbee switches in zigbee2mqtt but they appear in HA with entity sensor. instead of switch.
Is this normal? I wish I could change the entity but I dont know if this is possible...

sour shadow
#

Are they actually switches, with relays, or just buttons/remotes?

#

A link to the Z2M product page will help us help you

sour shadow
#

Those aren't switches - they can't turn the power on or off to anything

#

They're remotes, buttons

keen geode
#

AAh.. True my bad

sour shadow
#

The name isn't helpful

keen geode
#

hehe indeed, thanks

#

Is there a way though so I can control a light with them either by pressing the button or directly on the HA UI via a toggle?

sour shadow
#

That's kinda the point of HA 😉

keen geode
#

Yes.. I reformulate..

sour shadow
#

Pretty easy to call whatever.toggle when the button is pushed

harsh mango
#

am I able to use a generic 2.4ghz wifi antenna on my sonoff zigbee coordinator?

keen geode
sour shadow
harsh mango
#

Is it normal to see my zigbee device availability changing a lot (debug logs)?

2024-02-06 16:02:01.372 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.device] [0x80CE](TRADFRIbulbE26WSglobeopal1100lm): Device seen - marking the device available and resetting counter
2024-02-06 16:02:01.372 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.device] [0x80CE](TRADFRIbulbE26WSglobeopal1100lm): Update device availability -  device available: True - new availability: True - changed: False
2024-02-06 16:02:06.341 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.device] [0x56D3](TRADFRIbulbE12WScandleopal450lm): Device seen - marking the device available and resetting counter
2024-02-06 16:02:06.341 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.device] [0x56D3](TRADFRIbulbE12WScandleopal450lm): Update device availability -  device available: True - new availability: True - changed: False
2024-02-06 16:02:11.349 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.device] [0x685C](TRADFRIbulbE12WScandleopal450lm): Device seen - marking the device available and resetting counter
2024-02-06 16:02:11.349 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.device] [0x685C](TRADFRIbulbE12WScandleopal450lm): Update device availability -  device available: True - new availability: True - changed: False
2024-02-06 16:02:15.403 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.device] [0x071D](S31 Lite zb): Device seen - marking the device available and resetting counter
2024-02-06 16:02:15.403 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.device] [0x071D](S31 Lite zb): Update device availability -  device available: True - new availability: True - changed: False```
sour shadow
austere patio
keen geode
sour shadow
#

Then use it?

#

Doesn't matter

#

Pick your platfom and have fun

keen geode
#

I will once I figure out how to tweak the frontend so I can simulate phisical button clicks via HA UI

sour shadow
#

Well, you don't

#

That'd be crazy

keen geode
#

Yes I better switch to the other chanel once I clarified the initial doubt, Thxs.
I dont get why you think is a bad idea though

sour shadow
#

I'll tell you over there 😉

carmine hamlet
#

After these brief messages...

steady coyote
#

Hello, I buy zigbee Woox siren R7051.
Now I want to add it to my alarmo and I can't. I can't also make working button card to dashboard because there's no binary.sensor_turn.off/on. Can somebody help me?
I have entities like:

binary_sensor.syrena_ac_connected
binary_sensor.syrena_alarm
sensor.syrena_battery
number.syrena_duration
sensor.syrena_volume

harsh mango
#
2024-02-06 16:19:43.394 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.device] [0x243B](SWITCH-ZR03-1): Update device availability -  device available: True - new availability: True - changed: False
2024-02-06 16:19:43.411 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.device] [0xC47D](lumi.remote.b1acn01): last_seen is 62817.49312925339 seconds ago and ping attempts have been exhausted, marking the device unavailable
2024-02-06 16:19:43.411 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.device] [0xC47D](lumi.remote.b1acn01): Update device availability -  device available: False - new availability: False - changed: False```
#

Will a 2.4ghz wifi antenna work for my sonoff usb coordinator? I have a high-gain antenna that might do better.

steady coyote
harsh mango
#

hopefully I can get some additional info with debug. It's so stupid that my lights keep showing "on" when they're not. It seems to mostly happen in the middle of the night, random nights.

#

now I just have to wait for it to happen.

elder surge
mellow geode
#

You'd need to flash router firmware then. I think only ITEAD has made router firmware for that device so far

elder surge
elder surge
elder surge
mellow geode
elder surge
#

ah okay let me try

elder surge
#

i would assume I hit CHANGE FIRMWARE here?

mellow geode
#

yeah, should work. Then upload the Z3RouterUSBDonlge_EZNet6.10.3_V1.0.0.gbl file

elder surge
#

hmm. so what do i do once thats flashed? lol how do i access it to tell it what to do

#

oh. i just interview it like normal i guess? lol

mellow geode
#

Yep

lean oar
#

Every time I reboot HA zha starts back up with “debug logging enabled”. Is there away to turn of debug on reboot?

mellow geode
#

Did you ever add something with debug logging to your configuration.yaml?

#

Otherwise, debug logging for ZHA also gets enabled when pairing a new device.

elder surge
# mellow geode Yep

is there a way to reconfigure the network or force my device to use the router (sonoff) instead of the main?

mellow geode
#

You want to force another Zigbee device to route via the new Sonoff router instead of directly connecting to your Zigbee stick/coordinator?

elder surge
#

yeah. the mailbox is too far

#

and its stuck on the skyconnect

#

if it can hook onto the sonoff we'd be in business

mellow geode
#

Is it an Aqara sensor?

elder surge
#

yeah

mellow geode
#

Go to the device page of the Sonoff router, click the three dots and click "add via this device", then reset the Aqara sensor by holding the button

elder surge
#

ohhhhhh

#

thats possible?

#

okk

mellow geode
#

It should connect through the Sonoff router and will likely not switch parent (although it technically can, but most Aqara sensors don’t)

elder surge
#

its an aqara contact sensor in a tictac box 3M taped to the mailbox

mellow geode
#

Also note that the ZHA visualization/map isn’t live. It may take hours to update, but you can force a refresh using the button (then refresh the page 15 minutes later)

mellow geode
#

It should re-appear in the device screen, but keep all settings

elder surge
#

well i figure its not paired to sonoff because the RSSI is showing very bad and its physically next to the sonoff right now

#

RSSI -79 dBm

#

yeah ill reset it

elder surge
mellow geode
#

The "add via this device" button

elder surge
#

that seems dangerous lol

mellow geode
#

Read the full name by clicking on it, it’s not the electrical current

elder surge
mellow geode
#

Yeah, that’s the brightness level it assumes when turning on (after a power loss)

#

255 is "remember last brightness", 254 full brightness always on

#

Everything below will turn it to another brightness level when turning on

#

the Zigbee (ZCL) attribute is just named "startup_current_level" because the brightness attribute is named "current_level"

elder surge
#

oh okay

#

weird naming scheme

#

lol

placid raft
ashen bluff
#

Does it look the same in incognito mode or after you cleared the cache?

placid raft
#

Let me check

#

Must be indeed a cache issue, it doesn't happen in icognito mode

#

It's solved

#

Thanks a lot

steady coyote
ashen bluff
#

Visit the device's overview page and see if there's entities that are disabled.

steady coyote
sour shadow
#

The docs tell you how to use the siren feature

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To be 100% clear: you need the mqtt.publish service

steady coyote
#

I have all me ZigBee devices in mqtt integration.

sour shadow
#
service: mqtt.publish
data:
  topic: zigbee2mqtt/FRIENDLY_NAME/set
  payload: >-
    {"warning": {"mode": VALUE, "level": VALUE, "strobe_level": VALUE, "strobe": VALUE, "strobe_duty_cycle": VALUE, "duration": VALUE}}
#

Replace VALUE and FRIENDLY_NAME

steady coyote
#

I go to dev tools/service and choose mqtt.publish but don't know how to fill that fields. Can You help me?

sour shadow
#

I gave you the YAML

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How much more do you need?

#

Here's the visual version:

#

There's not really much more I can do to help you short of coming over and doing it for you - and you're never going to learn what you're doing that way

steady coyote
#

Can You tell me if that ok?

#
service: mqtt.publish
data:
  qos: "0"
  retain: false
  topic: zigbee2mqtt/syrena/set
  payload: >-
    {"warning": {"mode": VALUE, "level": VALUE, "strobe_level": VALUE, "strobe": VALUE, "strobe_duty_cycle": VALUE, "duration": VALUE}}
  
#

I'm sorry but I really don't understand that 😐

sour shadow
#

Replace VALUE and FRIENDLY_NAME

#

To understand what those values are, do read the docs that have been linked to many many many times already

#

"mode": "fire" for example

steady coyote
#

Ok, thanks. So after that I will get entities for alarmo?

sour shadow
#

No

#

If you want a switch for Alarmo to turn on, create a template switch that calls the publish service to turn the siren on and off

#

First you need to get your working service calls 😉

steady coyote
#

Maybe I will return that siren and buy other that works out of the box 😐

sour shadow
#

Then you need to read the Z2M pages carefully, looking for ones that create switches for you

steady coyote
steady coyote
rapid dawnBOT
#

@steady coyote When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

sour shadow
#

Those are lists of options

#

Clearly you pick one

#

Unless you think the level should be all four at the same time?

steady coyote
#

so I have to make that mqtt.publish service for every VALUE separately?

service: mqtt.publish
data:
  qos: 0
  retain: false
  topic: zigbee2mqtt/syrena/set
  payload: >-
    {"warning": {"mode": stop, burglar, fire, emergency, police_panic, fire_panic, emergency_panic,
    "level": low, medium, high, very_high, 
    "strobe_level": low, medium, high, very_high,
    "strobe": true, false, 
    "strobe_duty_cycle": 10, 
    "duration": 10}}

That's wrong?

sour shadow
#

Everything?

#

You want that to produce all those different sounds at the same time, at every volume level at the same time?

#

You also want it to strobe, and not strobe, at the same time?

steady coyote
#

I really don't understand that and documentation is horrible for person who don't know coding

sour shadow
#

Rosemary can explain it to you... I'm done ablobjoy

steady coyote
#

OK, thanks

peak ocean
#

does anyone have the aqara smart cube in here?

rapid dawnBOT
#

@peak ocean Don't ask to ask, just ask your question. Then people can answer when they're around.

When you do ask a question, try to provide as much background detail as possible. Ask yourself these questions first so that others don't have to:

  1. What version of the Home Assistant are you running? (remember, last isn't a version)
  2. What exactly are you trying to do that won't work?
  3. Is the problem uniform or erratic?
  4. What's the exact error message?
  5. When did it arise?
  6. What exactly don't you "get"?
  7. Can you share sample code, ideally with line errors where the error occurs?
rare sorrel
#

Does anyone use Aqara water leak detectors? I can get them to pair but they will not update their status after joining, even being a foot from the hub and in a glass of water, i've got tons of aqara temp/humidity sensors that work flawlessly but i cannot for the life of me get the water sensors to function. I'm using a Sonoff zigbee 3.0 usb stick for my zigbee hub and ZHA integration, was running home assistant 1.6, now i'm in the beta build to see if that fixed it

sour shadow
#

Lots of people do, including me

#

Are you pairing them through a chosen nearby router, or letting them fuck it up pick themselves?

rare sorrel
#

I only have one router, no extenders.

sour shadow
#

Oof

rare sorrel
#

I see there is another beta release out today so i'll give that a shot tonight when I get home, what version of HA are you running with yours working and what hub were you using?

sour shadow
#

Sonoff P, Zigbee2MQTT

rare sorrel
#

Maybe I should try using Zigbee2MQTT instead of ZHA?

sour shadow
#

Not that Z2M matters here, the problem is 100% with the mesh - not the software

#

99% likely you've got a weak signal or interference - or both

austere patio
#

Devices being able to join won't ever be impacted by software releases unless something is very broken. If the device in any way tries to join, you'll know.

rare sorrel
#

They join fine to be clear

#

They just don't update after joining

sour shadow
#

Also devices join at higher power than they use in normal operation

#

So, what you're seeing would point to weak signal or interference

rare sorrel
#

I did my test 1-2 feet from the antenna

sour shadow
#

So... interference

austere patio
#

Have you changed its battery?

rare sorrel
#

Tried that as well

#

Battery shows as 100% when it initially joins

sour shadow
#

Doesn't mean anything

rare sorrel
#

And i'm testing 3 different sensors, not 1.

#

All were working on the Aqara hub before i setup HA

sour shadow
#

Fresh battery Check_mark
USB stick on a USB extension cable Check_mark
Checked ZHA diags for interference Check_mark

rare sorrel
#

Did the fresh battery, usb stick is on an extension cable to get it up high away from everything, i'll see what the ZHA diags look like but not sure if i can even interpret them

austere patio
#

If you paste a link here I can take a look

rare sorrel
#

Just enabled debug logging, i'll let it run for a bit and paste a link

austere patio
#

ZHA diagnostics are downloaded from the drop down menu. Debug logging is something else (but also useful)

rare sorrel
#

Wasn't sure if debug logging added more to it, is there a preferred website to upload the logs to? pastebin?

#

In that debug log i do see lines saying a wleak.aq1 sensor is communicating with HA so it looks like it's at least attempting to talk

sour shadow
#

Channel 20 may not be your best channel, but it's not the worst

rare sorrel
#

Does it look like an interfierence issue? I can change my wireless AP channel if needed, 99% sure it's on "Auto" as well as the zigbee antenna

austere patio
#

It looks like it's on channel 1

#

You can try migrating your Zigbee network to 25 though, it's much clearer

rare sorrel
#

Noted, i'll give that a shot tonight. Will i need to repair all the sensors?

austere patio
#

Aqara is hit or miss if you use the channel migration feature

rare sorrel
#

Understood.

#

I'll also upgrade to the newest beta that was released, are either of you running 1.6 or the latest beta or are you on older versions?

austere patio
#

I run dev. There are a few changes that may help with your Sonoff stick but only if you're having communication issues with it, which according to the log doesn't seem like a problem.

#

I would also skip the beta, as the 2024.2.0 release is currently building and should be done in an hour or two

rare sorrel
#

Noted. Any ideas I should try if they still won't function?

austere patio
#

Is the stick near any USB 3.0 ports or SSDs?

rare sorrel
#

Negative, I ran the usb extension cable up out of the 4 post rack it was in.

#

The other sensors had no issues with the stick when it was inside the rack, my HA is running on a VM, host is inside a 4 post rack.

#

Tried the extension cable just in case

#

The Aqara hub is still up on the shelf by the stick so I guess I could try powering that off tonight as well but like I said the other sensors are all working fine just not the water leak detector ones

#

I'm also going to delete one sensors and repair it again tonight and test it 2 feet from the antenna

#

After I jump to 2024.2.0

#

Get a "fresh" start and see if the issue persists

storm compass
#

As noon need help with zigbee2mqtt error when attempting to add new device. Have screen capture of message, but don`t know how to upload here.

sour shadow
#

There's a log that's text, share that

rapid dawnBOT
#

@storm compass Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

sour shadow
#

Says it supports 100V so you should be ok

sudden yarrow
#

The Danfoss Ally TRVs don't support the HVAC mode off in ZHA. Is there a way to disable that mode, so it isn't selectable by accident?

lime locust
#

euhm latest update of z2m kind of messed up the webui ? anyone else have this problem ?

#

also in logs i see

Zigbee2MQTT:info  2024-02-07 18:10:21: Configuring 'Keuken Lamp'
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2024-02-07 18:10:21: Successfully configured 'Keuken Lamp'

its configuring all devices again ? never had this happen before ... ?

#

ah nvm , switching darkmode on/off did fix layout webui

storm compass
#

This is the log from zigbee2mqtt, running from zigbee dongle separated from Pi by approximately 2 meters
debug 2024-02-07 11:21:40Received MQTT message on 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/request/permit_join' with data '{"device":null,"time":254,"transaction":"49qde-1","value":true}'
Info 2024-02-07 11:21:40Zigbee: allowing new devices to join.
Error 2024-02-07 11:21:46Request 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/request/permit_join' failed with error: 'SRSP - ZDO - mgmtPermitJoinReq after 6000ms'
Debug 2024-02-07 11:21:46Error: SRSP - ZDO - mgmtPermitJoinReq after 6000ms at Object.start (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/utils/waitress.ts:63:23) at /app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/z-stack/znp/znp.ts:312:45 at Queue.execute (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/utils/queue.ts:35:26) at Znp.request (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/z-stack/znp/znp.ts:300:27) at /app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/z-stack/adapter/zStackAdapter.ts:206:28 at Queue.execute (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/utils/queue.ts:35:26) at ZStackAdapter.permitJoin (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/z-stack/adapter/zStackAdapter.ts:203:26) at Controller.permitJoinInternal (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/controller/controller.ts:246:32) at Controller.permitJoin (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/controller/controller.ts:234:20) at Zigbee.permitJoin (/app/lib/zigbee.ts:242:33)
Info 2024-02-07 11:21:46MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/response/permit_join', payload '{"data":{},"error":"SRSP - ZDO - mgmtPermitJoinReq after 6000ms","status":"error","transaction":"49qde-1"}'
Debug 2024-02-07 11:22:04Saving state to file /config/zigbee2mqtt/state.json

mighty river
#

Is anyone aware of a ZHA Quirks 101 guide? I have some devices where the cluster attributes exists in the HA manage device menu but are not exposed on the HA dashboard itself and vice-versa some entities that show but are not required to.

frank copper
sour shadow
#

euhm latest update of z2m kind of messed

rare sorrel
#

@austere patio @sour shadow Got home, installed the latest stable release 2.0, tested all the water sensors, all of them work flawlessly now, i didn't even remove/repair them or make any other changes. Thank you both for the help.

spare pulsar
#

i recently was using Zigbee2MQTT but moved to ZHA so I could make use of the Home Assistant Connect USB (Dual radio protocol for zigbee and OTB)
However the device is lacking values in ZHA (they exist and likely need a custom quirk which i'm exploring) but the interesting thing is the distinct lack of speed in the response in ZHA.

Is ZHA the preferred Zigbee method? Is there any reason not to make Zigbee2MQTT the default (which was done with ZwaveJS?)

austere patio
#

Different goals and different hardware support. Responsiveness should be identical between the two integrations, however. Any differences are due to the Zigbee channel in use.

spare pulsar
#

ok good to know, thanks for the reply @austere patio - i had to use the same channel to utilize OTB/Zigbee dual radio. I'm wondering if i should have moved to 25 not 15 - will experiment.

Turns out there is also a Z2M add-on (I was previously using a separate docker) so that should allow me to use the HA Connect USB still on the same VM

sour shadow
#

You could have done that anyway

#

The Multi-protocol piece uses network communication between Z2M and the add-on

spare pulsar
#

i couldn't share the USB between a docker and a VM

sour shadow
#

You didn't need to

spare pulsar
#

it shows up as a dual radio single device

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(when the dual radio firmware is flashed)

sour shadow
#

Multi-protocol add-on talks to the stick, everything talks to it

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Unless it's Z2M when lately it hasn't supported the add-on

#

You're about 200% better off not using multi-protocol anyway

spare pulsar
#

oh really?

#

better to keep them separate

sour shadow
#

See all the recent blog posts etc that have said don't do that

spare pulsar
#

radios is not my strong point

#

ah - will have a read

#

thanks for the tip

mellow geode
#

Btw., if you already have an Apple device with Thread (HomePod mini, Apple TV), HA automatically supports Thread if they're on the same network.

sour shadow
#

Also, with Z2M you want to stick to TI (CCxxxx) coordinators

spare pulsar
#

i had the HA Connect running really smoothly on Z2M

#

just for human occupancy (mmWave) in ceiling devices

sour shadow
#

I assume you really mean the Sky Connect

spare pulsar
#

yep that one

sour shadow
#

Which is EZSP and so experimental in Z2M

spare pulsar
#

which is HA approved hardware and yet works better (for my devices at least) in Z2M

regal pumice
#

Any suggestions for thermostat control?

#

I would like to take Raw inputs/output from my furnace and AC

#

Humidifier

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Gas fireplace

#

And in floor heating

#

All currently on separate thermostats

#

Is there an open source project that can control these systems and integrate with Home Assistant

#

So I can control the hvac from a wall tablet or the HA interface in general?

#

Oh and are there any AI heating control integrations or is automations the best way to do so?

regal pumice
barren snow
# regal pumice Maybe, sounds like a possibility. Are there zigbee based pid controllers?

I honestly don't place low-level control in HA hands, just on a principle of not centralizing too many things. Over the years ecoBee was pretty intelligent in controlling my heating & cooling. What I do is connect ecoBee to HA for "higher level" controls (i.e. changing setpoints based on people's location etc); however the smarts of low-level control are in the hands of the dedicated device

regal pumice
#

I do want to do Decentralization

regal pumice
#

Having something independent from HA but also still independent from the cloud would be the most beneficial I think

carmine hamlet
#

you can control the Ecobee through Homekit in HA for local control

#

but it is still connected to the cloud and that can cause issues, but often Homekit avoids any downtime when their servers don't work

regal pumice
#

Wasn't there a project for low level control of hvac control boards?

regal pumice
#

I've worked so hard to implement independent systems

#

And mostly open source stuff or compatible hardware

barren snow
#

Ecobee works 100% without the cloud and still performs its smarts. The only thing that doesn't work without the cloud is weather and thus some more advanced adjustments based on upcoming weather cannot be perofrmed. It's 100% locally controlled via HomeKit

barren snow
# regal pumice Wasn't there a project for low level control of hvac control boards?

with this one thing I would ask yourself two questions:

  • do you really want to tinker with low level thing that ensures your house is at a safe temperature and that equipment operates within safe parameters (e.g. compressor duty cycle)
  • can you even use your HVAC with non-certified control equipment (many home insurances and equipment warranties will be void in such a case!)
#

while Nest is way cooler looking and possibly smarter than ecobee, it is more a cloud-dependent solution. This, and the fact I can get local HK control, were the reasons I actually went with ecobee (ignoring that Nest thermostat hardware is prone to failures as I learned later)

barren snow
regal pumice
#

And I don't mind tinkering

regal pumice
#

But I'll take your advice on that one

#

Stability is important

regal pumice
grim igloo
#

+1 for ecobee fuck nest anything

#

just dont waste your $ on their sensors. buy zigbee ones instead

regal pumice
#

Where they can shut off your hvac during usage peaks to aid the grid 💀

#

Maybe I'm thinking of Honeywell but that's the only thing that scares me about closed source

shadow tartan
#

I got an Aqara motion sensor to test. The range is very short though.

#

I'm using ZHA, can I improve the range from there?

carmine hamlet
barren snow
barren snow
barren snow
regal pumice
#

All very neat

#

Echobee is on my radar but I still feel like tinkering

#

Currently I'm using a Honeywell efi board

#

That "talks" via wireless to my "dumb" Honeywell thermostat

#

The furnace control board is a surelight

#

So I could probably tie right in and replace the efi board

barren snow
#

You can use the project I linked before for control. Commanding HVAC is simple really (you need 2 or 3 low voltage relays) + temp sensor really.

regal pumice
#

And chuck the honeywell thermostat

regal pumice
#

What's your thoughts on this one though that I talked about with someone in this thread 9 months ago

barren snow
#

HVAC boards accept analog signals:

  • call for cool/compewsor
  • turn fan on (sometimes low/high is supported, often tied on the board to heat/cool modes)
  • call for heat
  • call for humidifier

All of them are just bridging 24V to respective wire. No pwm, no digital, simply bridge two wires 😂

barren snow
shadow tartan
#

No, it's the original. I notice the P1 has drop down options. This one doesn't.

#

Another thing, the range is actually fine. I think it's due to how I'm pointing it though.

#

It's facing straight down from the ceiling. I guess it has good horizontal range, but no vertical.

mellow geode
#

Ah ok, the P1 has some hardware versions that have issues with the range.

regal pumice
regal pumice
#

24v

#

AC

#

There's a Fan, AC unit on the deck, Furnace, and humidifier

#

All shre the same ducts

mellow geode
#

The P1 sensors are good generally, but half of the ones I have all seem to have a way shorter range. There's also multiple posts on reddit, the HA forum, and so on about this.

shadow tartan
#

Seems the P1 also has more control options, at least within ZHA.

#

The original is as basic as it gets as far as I can tell.

tropic depot
#

Options don’t always mean better

#

The FP1 and FP2 (WiFi not zigbee) are the best IMO

mint hatch
#

Hello, I setup my 1st Home Assistant 11.5 on my VMM (hypervisor). I just inserted a Zigbee USB stick and installed MQTT. I'm unsure how to add the Tuya Zigbee thermometer sensor? I used a SIM pin to reset the sensor, a red LED blinked, I assumed is pairing mode, but nothing on Home Assistant?

mint hatch
#

I also added the Home Assistant integration Tuya. Tuya asked for my phone app's User Code, which I entered into Tuya.

sour shadow
#

Hello, I setup my 1st Home Assistant 11.

finite hare
#

Hi guys, I use a few Ikea Tradfri devices, I have an option in HA settings to (Firmware) update these....they work so haven't updated...what do you guys do as a rule? update or just leave them be? Tks in adv.

sour shadow
#

Generally for ZHA and Z2M you don't want to update unless you know the update won't break support

#

Some Tradfri updates have done odd things, like add a default binding between buttons/sensors and lights

#

3Reality are the only ones you know to be safe (for Z2M) since they actively support Z2M

#

Personally I've had no problems after updating Tradfri lights, or any Xiaomi device

finite hare
#

in...my settings there are 8 devices always telling me about these updates ... its like that red button that says "Do not PUSH" but I want to push it so bad! hahaha but as its FW ... and everythings working ... I have resisted!

#

Is there a way to ignore these updates/remove ? possible?

sour shadow
#

Same as for any other update in HA

#

||Click ignore||

finite hare
#

Ahh 😂 soz new to HA as you probably noticed just seen it !! "RED DO NOT PUSH BUTTON" - REMOVED

#

@sour shadow Thanks

regal pumice
vocal vigil
#

Feeling Zesty, I upgraded and tried to OTA Update a ThirdReality plug. This has of course hung at 33% overnight. Should I... do anything?

ashen coral
sour shadow
#

To be fair all my Innr devices bar one updated smoothly, and the last one just needed a second shot. My Tradfri all worked first time, as have my Xiaomi.

ashen coral
#

My hue dimmer remotes take hours and hours and hours to determine the update failed.

#

And yes. I am waking them

#

repeatedly

sour shadow
#

Yeah, that one I tried a few times, had to put a new battery in for it to work

tidal lynx
#

Elmine — heute um 16:38 Uhr
Hello together, Is there someone out there to help me find out why my mqtt is going to cut connetion several times a day to my devices ?? I m new to this and I have already the USB (ConbeeII) at USB extention ) all othe thins like omematic and apple integration works mormal?
Any Ideas ?

sour shadow
#

Assuming that you actually mean Zigbee2MQTT... check the log

tidal lynx
#

Hi Tinker where to find?

sour shadow
#

Depends on how you run it really

#

Look in the Z2M config folder

tidal lynx
#

ok found it aktually only infos inside so w have to wait untill it happens again

#

what does 255/54 in the map mean? 255 is full link what is the 54

sour shadow
#

You have all the old logs there too, you can look for the time you had a "cut connection"

tidal lynx
#

yes but did not know exactly the times.

sour shadow
#

Then how do you know it's happening?

tidal lynx
#

I mean not sure when it happens mostly when i am out so my devices are not working and i cant load the map

sour shadow
#

Turn on availability and last_seen

tidal lynx
#

in the devices ?

tidal lynx
#

this put in the config.yaml in the for zigbee right

#

availability: true

sour shadow
#

Yes

#

You can also do that in the UI, same for last_seen

tidal lynx
#

ok does this men when a device gets offline it can only be restartet by restarting the Zigbee2MQTT

#

?

sour shadow
#

No, it means that:

  1. You can see when they last checked in
  2. HA gets told when a device goes offline
  3. HA gets told when Z2M goes offline
tidal lynx
#

Ok lost now if Iput availability: true in my yaml wher to the the info ?

sour shadow
#

Just do that in Z2M's UI

#

100% less chance for you to get that wrong

tidal lynx
#

found it its already in the setting you can swith it on over th UI

#

ok now we see how long it will last

#

so far thx for your help I ll try to find the root cause hopefully

sour shadow
#

You need to find a time that it happens, and then check the logs

tidal lynx
#

yes clear

sour shadow
#

When you come back you also need to tell us more about how you run Z2M - what hardwarer, whethe you use a VM, Docker, add-on, etc, as well as what coordinator, whether you use a USB extension cable, and ... more, lots more

tidal lynx
#

Coordinator conbeeII all runing on Intel nuc Gen7 i5 32 GB 1 TB Harddrive

#

cable yes I use one

#

1,5 m away from nuc

sour shadow
#

Ah

tidal lynx
#

how do I quick find the version of the stick is it possible in HA

sour shadow
#

The firmware version is shown in Z2M's dashboard

#

The problem is that 1.35.2 (and .3) don't work well with the ConBee

#

Downgrade to 1.35.1

tidal lynx
#

ok i check it

#

fxxk I have 1.35.3

#

do you know which of the firmwares is 1.35.1

carmine hamlet
#

That's the version of Z2M

tidal lynx
#

how do i roll back

sour shadow
#

How do you run Z2M?

#

Docker? Add-on? Something else?

tidal lynx
#

Addon

sour shadow
#

Then you'd have to restore a backup from 1.35.1

tidal lynx
#

no 😦

carmine hamlet
#

if you updated the addon, it probably made a backup for you

sour shadow
#

And if you haven't already set up routine backups then now is a good time to fix that

tidal lynx
#

I have one an just rolled back

#

resatring system

#

thx for all you help Have to go ff but will sure come back not bad for 2 Days of HA 🙂

#

cu

fallow warren
#

Can anyone recommend me a switch touch screen panel (zigbee) I was looking at Aqara Scene Panel s1 - is that any good?

finite quest
#

any tips on some trafardi bulbs that will not pair

#

tried adding in a motion sensor and it kicked them off and now they won't resync

#

using yellow

tacit grail
#

Hey there. Question about HA and recents and new versions and support of device using zigbee2mqtt.
Should I remove the check on this parameters in z2m ?

Home Assistant legacy entity attributes
Home Assistant legacy triggers

I don’t know why I have these checked.

sour shadow
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You can, it may impact your automations

tacit grail
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Because the names of entities could/will change ?

sour shadow
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Behaviours will change

finite quest
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motion sensor from ikea had bound them and was stealing them...

red cedar
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What does it mean when a Zigbee device is online and seems to be functional, but the map shows it as having no line connecting to a router? I’ve tried repairing it to the main router, tried redoing it via a different router. Same result each time with ZHA

red cedar
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Thanks for the quick response. I was going nuts with this one 😅😅😅😅

red cedar
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100% unrelated 😛 but I can try (and fail) to assign blame though

mighty sage
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I just added a new Zigbee device this morning (Third reality motion sensor) and I noticed it stopped working at some point today. The device's LED is blinking red, but can't find online what that means.

My guess is that it's out of range; anything I can check in zigbee2mqtt to validate that before I try adding another Zigbee router?

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I'm basically wondering if anyone has any good troubleshooting steps 😁

tall wyvern
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got home assistant set up with ZHA today. got some devices connected as well. worked perfectly! so cool

silver lily
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Anyone tried using two Z2M Instances? I successfully configured both Addons using different datapath, mqtt topic, pan id and ports, but the MQTT Mosquitto went crazy and is only showing some coordinator stuff, all my entities in HA are gone. I Tried reinstalling, both Z2M uses the same login/pass and are correct.
I'm out of Ideas

regal pumice
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Do zigbee receptacles with switching usb ports exist?

sour shadow
grizzled lichen
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I moved to a bigger house and started to have problems with zigbee network coverage. Already bought 2 sonoff switches to repeat signal but they are weak and only extend network for about 5 meters.
I am thinking about migrate from sonoffzb bridge to sonoffzb pro, seams that pro range is 200m vs 80m. What to you think? I planning to convert the current zbbrigde to a router and add it to the network.
Plus, there is a better way to migrate the coordinator than break the current network and recreate from scratch? Do I need to open the plugs inside the wall to press the pair button?
Thanks in advance!!

sour shadow
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The range of the coordinator is irrelevant - but decent routers such as Innr plugs

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Also, there's no hope in hell that either of those figures represent reality

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Eight meters is reasonable

grizzled lichen
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The current coordinator range is sometimes impressive, the real problem is when they need to cross the walls with metal..

sour shadow
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That's why routers exist

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Sonoff's routers, like most of their end devices and coordinators, are known to be sub-par

grizzled lichen
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Yes.. but the sonoff mini switches are very, very week

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6meters in open space, maximum

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I've tested and get disappointed

sour shadow
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decent routers such as Innr plugs

grizzled lichen
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A have a lot of plus already (shelly wifi), I don't really need more. Any other type of device?

sour shadow
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You can flash CC2652 sticks with router firmware

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Or replace the current crappy plugs with good ones so that you actually strengthen your mesh

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Leaving in bad routers is likely to cause you more problems than they're worth

grizzled lichen
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Is cc2652 a coordinator? Or just repeater?

sour shadow
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Depends on the firmware

grizzled lichen
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My coordinator is with tasmota.

sour shadow
grizzled lichen
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I prefer not have usb coordinator s.because and running ha from hyper-v vm

sour shadow
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Tasmota coordinators that are WiFi connected are known to be not great

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Ethernet connected ones seem to be ok

grizzled lichen
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I know.. but they have been working fine until now..

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I moved from a 90m² house to a 260m², with 3 floors, and de attached garage 15m distance outside

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They said the problem with wifi is usually related with poor wifi networks, but for me shouldn't be a problem, I have unify network with 3 uac-pro access points

sour shadow
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They worked before because you had such a small range that interference etc didn't matter

grizzled lichen
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Very good coverage

sour shadow
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Also you misunderstood about WiFi

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Good coverage isn't necessasily good for Zigbee

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Check the pinned image

grizzled lichen
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Where?

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(Sorry, I am new on discord)

sour shadow
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Top right

grizzled lichen
sour shadow
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No, but you can ensure that they're on different frequencies

grizzled lichen
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Found it!

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Ok, i will check when I arrive home

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But I believe that my wifi is on a high channel and zigbee coordinator is on 11

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They shouldn't collide

sour shadow
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You have neighbours?

grizzled lichen
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I need to double check

grizzled lichen
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It coult interfere.. but with weak signal

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Thank you for all your suggestions! 🙂

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That usb device that you metion seems to have a good range, at least have external antenna

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Just one more question

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There is any "elegant" way to migrate the coordinator if I chose that path?

sour shadow
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Depends on whether you use ZHA or Z2M, and what you're migrating between

grizzled lichen
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Or do I need to break everything and start to open wall switches inside the wall to press the pair button to pair everything again?

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Zha

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I am using zha

sour shadow
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ZHA's pretty good at migrating

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You should be fine

grizzled lichen
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Ok

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Thanks

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My bad.. 😖I see that ha have official documention about migrate radio ( coordinator) on zha section.🙃😄

solar horizon
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Has anyone tried those cheap $10 motion sensors on AliExpress they say ZigBee and use ZigBee logo in marketing but it also says the dreaded Tuya.... Or do you reckon is purely Tuya on the device

sour shadow
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Without a link nobody can answer

solar horizon
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Pretty sure it's just Tuya

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Or maybe not idk, seems to say ZigBee alot

sour shadow
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Tuya Zigbee 3.0

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Maybe ok, maybe utter junk

ashen bluff
# solar horizon https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOJw7iK

These short links suck. Better link to it like this: https://aliexpress.com/item/1005006350301590.html
Yours linked me to this abomination (arguments replaced to highlight): https://MYLANG.aliexpress.com/item/1005006350301590.html?srcSns=sns_Copy&spreadType=socialShare&bizType=ProductDetail&social_params=BLABLABLA&aff_fcid=BLABLABLA&tt=MG&aff_fsk=BLABLABLA&aff_platform=default&sk=BLABLABLA&aff_trace_key=BLABLABLA&shareId=BLABLABLA&businessType=ProductDetail&platform=AE&terminal_id=BLABLABLA&afSmartRedirect=y&gatewayAdapt=BLABLABLAMYLANG
Not only does it have a million stupid params, it also resets my preferred language to my country's locale.
Back to the topic. I can't find any mention of CS-SSN-ZPIR in the Z2M repos. Or whole github for that matter. Tuya and zigbee don't exclude each other. I have a lot of zigbee devices from tuya. Including motion sensors.

river hatch
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In z2m do I need to set transition time on all devices individual or is there a global option

regal pumice
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Also how can I figure out of my current furnace has wired sensors or would temperature be done on the EIM or thermostat boards themselves?

reef inlet
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is it at all possible to group zigbee entities together to turn on/off if any of the group members are turned on/off?
I've tried using zigbee groups and that seems to be only device based, not entity based
for context I have 1/2/3 gang light switches which i want to also be turned on if any of the light bulbs are turned on .. (because the power is off on the bulb until the light switch aspect is turned on)... with zigbee groups it turns both/all gangs on/off.

(yes i know this is a horribly clunky way of doing it but I dont think i have any other option with decoupled modes not seeming to be possible when there are no neutral wires in the switch socket here in the UK)

sour shadow
reef inlet
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which isnt much use because the light wouldnt be 'available' for a few seconds after turning the socket on. could it be done with bindings rather than groups in zha?

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or would that be again per 'device' rather than entity

sour shadow
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No idea

reef inlet
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ok

solemn tangle
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Hey, can I use my Philips Hue Bridge in combination with home Assistant as a Zigbee hub for other devices from other manufacturers?

reef inlet
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you can use it to pair other devices, but its useless to home assistant unfortunatly

sour shadow
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The Hue bridge supports a limited set of other brands, and frankly there's no reason to use it given the existence of ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT

reef inlet
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where has the "manage clusters" and 'view children' buttons gone from the zha device page?

lofty stag
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so I was to migrate as well. (ZHA from conbee II to Sonoff Dongle E)

tropic depot
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3 dots menu

lofty stag
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the procedure completed sucessfully. without error

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but under zigbee devices

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i still see the old device

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with nodes connected to it.
the new device (sonoff) is there standing ...orphan

tropic depot
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The map will take a bit to update

lofty stag
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ok