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mellow geode
grim igloo
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Reply suck it then close them

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Ez

deep zinc
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glad I'm finally digging into all of this, my home setup has been a mess for so long

grim igloo
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You can’t just throw money at the problem

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Feature not a bug

deep zinc
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hell I'm running HAOS on a keyboard

grim igloo
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Yiques

deep zinc
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(pi400, only pi I could reasonably get at the time)

grim igloo
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No one with your best interest in mind suggests a pi

deep zinc
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oh I know

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it's not permanent

haughty burrow
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get a thin client

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and dump proxmox on it

grim igloo
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Mini pc not thin client

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Thin client are overpriced now

deep zinc
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may run it on my NAS (QNAP), but it's pretty far from my main meshes. the PoE ZB coordinator would be helpful there

haughty burrow
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cough cough, shhh

grim igloo
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Gross

deep zinc
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haha

grim igloo
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Idk if I’d even call qnap a nas

deep zinc
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it stores stuff and it's on my network

grim igloo
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More like a set of drives with legs

deep zinc
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been pretty happy with mine

uncut cloud
deep zinc
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except their dumb docker setup that doesn't let you update to the latest image easily

grim igloo
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Needs a longer url

deep zinc
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nah if it's a PC I'll get myself a nice minipc

haughty burrow
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you will probably need to throw more mem and higher capacity drive.

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thin client

deep zinc
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MINI PC

grim igloo
haughty burrow
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it is

grim igloo
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That’s a mini pc that hp called a thin client cuz they’re retarded

haughty burrow
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well, yess

grim igloo
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Yesnt?

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Trualse?

deep zinc
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a thin client is not made to run anything on its own except connect to a more powerful server

haughty burrow
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with crappy specs

deep zinc
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I don't wanna run crap on that

haughty burrow
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you said you have a pi4?

deep zinc
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yes, it's temporary.

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I don't wanna upgrade to something else also crap

grim igloo
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He has a pi4 that stuck its dick in a keyboard

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Even worse

deep zinc
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I also have a regular pi4 actually but it's running octoprint. well, it's off until I can get all that crap to the garage

haughty burrow
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I have no complaints on the T730

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running pfsense on one

grim igloo
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The Lenovo mini pcs are better for the price I think

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I’d have to stare and compare

haughty burrow
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and a beefed up one with proxmox, with HA, and other crap.

grim igloo
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The m910q etc

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Anyways we’re out of zigbee territory

deep zinc
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yeah

grim igloo
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If I’m ever gonna get a fun color name I gotta say that

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Although I’ve been told it’s a cool kids club they vote on so I guess I’ll never get in

haughty burrow
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guys have any messaging integration?

grim igloo
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Discord

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Works well

haughty burrow
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to text my cell if the door is open

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stuff like that

grim igloo
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No who uses text

haughty burrow
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twitter

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we all use text

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we are using text at the moment

deep zinc
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you can just have it push notifications to the app, but also this is not zigbee

haughty burrow
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chatgpt is a text predictor

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even ai uses text

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🙂

deep zinc
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hm I guess you need cloud for that? my phone is always connected home via VPN when I'm not

grim igloo
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@carmine hamlet we need to all be spanked ever so gently

haughty burrow
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I have an app called "phone link"

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that lets me text from my PC

lilac wharf
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Or a GSM modem and an active SIM card

haughty burrow
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you got it...

deep zinc
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oh I meant for you to get notifications from homeassistant while you're not at home

haughty burrow
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but got no fuck money

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for pay for another sim

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lol

lilac wharf
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You in the US?

haughty burrow
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yes

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got some free hookupz?

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uses mint, lyca, etc..

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no verizon or att money here.

lilac wharf
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Nah, but look up ultra mobile paygo. $3/mo for 100 minutes, texts, and MB of data (obviously only the texts are relevant here)

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And $0.01 for any text over 100

haughty burrow
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I'm sure there is some internet based api somewhere.

deep zinc
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google fi

grim igloo
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Like discord?

haughty burrow
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yes

grim igloo
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Then use discord

lilac wharf
grim igloo
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Discord messaging with hass integration works fine

lilac wharf
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Or a multitude of other non-SMS notification platforms

haughty burrow
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there you go

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thank you

deep zinc
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yeah pushover works ok

grim igloo
deep zinc
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lol

grim igloo
deep zinc
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I have first gen hue bulbs, I dunno

haughty burrow
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is there a discord integration?

grim igloo
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No

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Google will lie to you and say yea

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But don’t believe that guy

haughty burrow
grim igloo
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I tested it a while back works fine

lilac wharf
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I use Gotify (self-hosted) mainly. Android only though

grim igloo
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Never heard of that

lilac wharf
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No direct integration with HA but easy enough to handle with the REST notify platform

grim igloo
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Android tv too or nah

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Oh scary

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3webdev5me

lilac wharf
grim igloo
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Yea you can

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I use notifications for android tv now

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Let’s me do pop ups and stuff

deep zinc
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nice

grim igloo
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I think the only automation I have is doorbell snapshots on tvs tho

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Anyways something something zigbee

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My mailbox aqara sensor got smashed together with the other half of it by the mailman

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Had to apply new adhesive strip

deep zinc
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I gotta figure out how to make my mesh reach my mailbox

grim igloo
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I just paired to a bulb

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It’s like 20 lqi

deep zinc
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yeah mine's like two houses up the street

grim igloo
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Break out the foil

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There’s got to be some antenna design that could do a little beaming

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Smoke some meth and get creative

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man up

deep zinc
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could probably get a smart plug repeater to the far corner of the property and make it work honestly

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or just a repeater

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but smart plug already rated for outdoors seems easiest

grim igloo
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What about dressing up as a jehovas witness and put plugs in each of your neighbor’s homes?

deep zinc
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might work

grim igloo
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You just need a white shirt and black pants and a bicycle 🚲

deep zinc
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or I could just ask most of my neighbors probably 😂

grim igloo
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How do you look in spandex?

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Unrelated just curious

deep zinc
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terrible but I (used to 😭 ) wear it riding

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no time to ride anymore

grim igloo
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Title of your sex tape

deep zinc
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looks like corner of property to mailbox is ~100 ft

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and then it's inside a metal box

grim igloo
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That isn’t that bad

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Rip

deep zinc
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but I only want notification when it opens

grim igloo
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Mine is inside a metal box and prob 60 ft

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I had to pair it close to the nearest bulb but it works fast far away

deep zinc
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yeah I guess I'll try it. would be nice, but not that big a deal I guess.

still cipher
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I've searched around for a bit but no luck. I figured id ask here. does anyone have a recessed door/window zigbee sensor that they like to use?

grim igloo
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Not zigbee no but I do have a zwave Aeotec one I like

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I think you might be able to 3d print an enclosure for an aqara one though

deep zinc
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oh wow. why did I never think to do that?

grim igloo
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Drugs?

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Lack of drugs?

deep zinc
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yeah probably the latter

grim igloo
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There are neat projects on thingiverse for all sorts of designs

deep zinc
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yeah I know. just never thought of it for some reason. would love to get some of the sensors recessed

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on the other hand, they're not really that annoying

grim igloo
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Second one is a recessed option

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I might have to print one

deep zinc
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yeah I might have to too

still cipher
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thanks ill look into this, the casing on my doors dont allow for the magnet sensors to fit.

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thus why looking for the recessed option

grim igloo
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Just mash it in bro

still cipher
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yeah the wife would never let it fly.

grim igloo
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Lmao

still cipher
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but the last 3d print is actually what I was thinking of doing if I couldnt find the recessed option

grim igloo
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I searched aqara and scrolled for 20 seconds

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I am a master

still cipher
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thanks man

deep zinc
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I really need to get my 3d printer going again

grim igloo
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Just buy another one

deep zinc
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nah. the real issue now is nowhere to use it. garage being finished/cleaned and need to wait

grim igloo
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First world problems

deep zinc
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and gotta a voron kit I gotta put together

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yeah

grim igloo
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‘The help is busy there’

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Oh you rich rich

deep zinc
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nah

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if I was I'd just go buy new hue bulbs for everywhere

grim igloo
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$1000+ kit sitting in a closet says otherwise lol

deep zinc
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lol fair

grim igloo
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I know stuff and things

deep zinc
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wish I'd come in here sooner. there's so much more stuff out there now than I knew about

grim igloo
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This place has become less toxic over time

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It’s still very abrasive if you aren’t prepared or have certain background / foundation

deep zinc
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less toxic over time? weird, things don't usually work that way

grim igloo
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Adapt or die

naive summit
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Depends on the mods.

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Places get less toxic if the mods change positions, or they decide to put a concerted effort in to make it nicer.

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FYI, I see some z wave sensors on Amazon designed specifically to be embedded in the door via an easier to use drill bit. Might be worth searching more if there’s a zigbee equivalent.

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That’d be a fun project for tindie

molten linden
grim igloo
naive summit
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They sell reed switches specifically designed for this. You could simply disassemble an Aqara one and wire it up to the new switch

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But you’re missing an opportunity for a big battery.

molten linden
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This was testing.. I added a bigger battery

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Used a Konke sensor but aqara would work too. Made a pull cord light switch with one of those.

naive summit
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Yeah, that’s exactly what I expected. Uses those replacement generic security sensors.

grim igloo
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generic security sensors?

molten linden
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Something like that you just need to get the right open/closed variant

grim igloo
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where do you hide the large pcb

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and what pcb would you use?

naive summit
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I’m assuming he drilled a deeper hole and tucked the pcb and battery in there.

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He specified that he disassembled a regular window sensor and bypassed it’s built in reed switch to use the linked one. You could use any door sensor that’s reliable on your network.

grim igloo
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this is quickly becoming a suggestion to do way more work than it's worth per door

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and butchering each door in the house for what should be a simple sensor lol

naive summit
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“Butchering” is probably being over dramatic. It’s a hole in the door and in the jamb.

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And not a router slot, a hole.

grim igloo
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it's not a "core" if it's also needing a square/rectangular pcb cut out

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especially the size pictured above

naive summit
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Select your pcb carefully and that’s nbd.

grim igloo
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i have one of these. i'd be willing to recreate a similar one using a cheap zigbee sensor

naive summit
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That’s the z wave one I referenced above.

grim igloo
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assuming i could drill a hole on each side and be done

naive summit
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That would be a fun small run pcb project.

grim igloo
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ah now i gotta make my own pcbs

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lol

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runs away

naive summit
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I want to make PCBs.

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You do whatever you want.

grim igloo
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i always do

naive summit
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The problem I have is “is it worth investing more in zigbee with thread/matter coming?”

grim igloo
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as home assistant users and the overall state of available hardware i think it's safe to ignore both of their existence for another year minimum

naive summit
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Yeah, but I’m looking to permanently install stuff.

grim igloo
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zigbee 2.1 devices wont just stop working when thread devices come out

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you'll be forever waiting with that mindset

naive summit
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It’s more about simplicity.

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And an ideological/aesthetic preference to only have one network.

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That’s why I don’t run z wave.

short sandal
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This is the tech world. Even the latest phone supports “obsolete” protocols etc. Its inevitable that by the time thread is established something else will be on the horizon.

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I just wish they’d come up with better names. Thread and matter are just words. Zigbee is distinctive.

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Have fun searching for “thread switch” on Amazon etc.

mighty river
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Does Thread matter? ;)

short sandal
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Well, quite. I’ll be buying zigbee things for the foreseeable future.

naive summit
mighty river
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Well, for me it doesn't. I could imagine running Thread devices in parallel in a few years when interesting devices do not use ZigBee anymore. Matter does not seem interesting at all as it just appears to be a way to allow use of multiple gateways/hubs and I have no interest in having any of those (my Ikea gateway was my first and last device of that sort)

naive summit
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Matter is interesting in that it should, in theory, reduce the need for integrations and adapters of wildly varying quality.

mighty river
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Not sure if Matter could fix that part unless it can control my tv and hifi and provide state information

naive summit
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Reduce, not eliminate.

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It provides a standard interface between devices of a type and the controller (HA here)

molten linden
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I had the zwave in jam sensor originally. Everything basically fit in the hole that was drilled there. The aqara sensor pcb is small enough to fit.

mighty river
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hey guys, i need some help by installing the SkyConnect stick. Someone might help me out there? 😦

sour shadow
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You need to explain all the stuff you posted in #installation-archived so people don't have to ask the same questions again 😉

mighty river
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all right, i try

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i run homeassistant on an intel nuc. the stick is detected in homeassistant and i can see it in the hardware section. if i add the ZHA integration it shows me the path for the stick. i submit that and after that i have to choose a radio. if i do, the connection fails, no matter what radio i choose.

sour shadow
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What's in the log file?

rapid dawnBOT
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If you're having problems with your updates to your configuration:

mighty river
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how to share it? via screenshot? the skyconnect is not listed there

rapid dawnBOT
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Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

mighty river
grim igloo
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Tinkerer can you make dpaste.org the first suggestion since that’s what most people pick and the ui / default settings seems the best?

mighty river
grim igloo
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That wasn’t directed at you just a QoL change for the server

mighty river
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ok

jovial monolith
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Hi. Anyone seen any issues with the latest few versions of HAOS and ZHA? For me it seems the Conbee dongle is not initialized in the correct order making the ZHA plugin fail and zigbee to not work on boot. If i "reload" the plugin it starts to function normally again.

sour shadow
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Are you on the beta?

jovial monolith
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Nope, plain HAOS

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Home Assistant 2023.2.5
Supervisor 2023.01.1
Operating System 9.5
Frontend 20230202.0 - latest

grim igloo
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it's probably failing due to interference

jovial monolith
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From the ZHA log i can see

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Error setting up entry ConBee II for zha
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/serial/serialposix.py", line 322, in open
self.fd = os.open(self.portstr, os.O_RDWR | os.O_NOCTTY | os.O_NONBLOCK)
FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/dev/ttyACM1'

grim igloo
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do you have a usb extender on the conbee

jovial monolith
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so the uart is not yet ready at the point ZHA tries to access it

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Straight connected on the RPi3

grim igloo
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iirc conbee fails to work if it has interference and is worse than all other coordinators in that regard

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ya that's a problem

jovial monolith
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The issue is not the RF communication, as it's been working for ~6 months. The issue is that the ZHA plugin fails to start on boot. If i reload it it starts working and everything else works as it should.

grim igloo
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ok ignore common suggestions and enjoy pain

violet wave
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@jovial monolith it looks like at previous boot, you had your dongle plugged, you tried to set it up and then unplugged it and plugged it back

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this created a second ttyACM1 interface while leaving ttyACM0

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so now your dongle is expected to be in ACM1

grim igloo
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also not using serial by id is wrong

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both are things not suggested to do

jovial monolith
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No. This was a straight boot without any unplugging/plugging.

violet wave
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I'm talking about the previous boot

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because HA expect it to be ttyACM1 while after a fresh boot it's probably ttyACM0

jovial monolith
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@violet wave Hmm.. But then why would a "reload" of ZHA make it work again.. it's not like it's been hotplugged and renamed again then?

violet wave
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no idea, maybe that message is unrelated then

grim igloo
jovial monolith
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@grim igloo It's not RF interference. I have been using this setup on OpenHAB for about ~4 years before swithcing to HomeAssistant.

mellow geode
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Wait for ZHA to load/fail, then go to the ZHA integrations page and click on "re-configure radio", then "Reconfigure current radio" and select the Conbee from that list, then "keep network settings"

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That should refresh the serial port in the config entry (and should use an by-id entry)

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Also, make sure you're actually using a USB extension on the Conbee. It can simply "stop working" because of new interference (USB 3 SSDs, Bluetooth dongles, APs, ...)

violet wave
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usb 3.0 is really bad with 2.4Ghz 😦

mellow geode
grim igloo
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but ya "it's not RF interference"

jovial monolith
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RPi3 != USB3

grim igloo
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pi3 still has a built in wifi and bt radio

jovial monolith
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And i think i would have noticed issues with USB communication over the years i have had it running. I did watch the video and that's not the issue...

grim igloo
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you might just need to change it to use serial by id

grim igloo
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but regardless the most common issue here with conbee is interference (whether usb3 or otherwise)

mellow geode
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Yeah, Conbee sticks need to be on a USB extension (and all other sticks should be too) regardless of "it works". It could simply work better by putting it on a USB extension

grim igloo
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so you can say your shit used to work all you want but we're telling you what we see daily

jovial monolith
mellow geode
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Settings -> Integrations -> ZHA: Configure -> Migrate Radio

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See the first (!) step of this: https://skyconnect.home-assistant.io/migrate-zigbee-zha-only/
When you get to step three, you want to choose "Re-configure the current radio" though
Then, select your Conbee from the list of available serial ports. (I think it won't display the by-id port there, but should stick save that one IIRC)
Afterwards, choose "Keep network settings"

jovial monolith
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Was listed as ACM0 in the reconfig so maybe ACM1 got inserted into some config and reload made it go back to autodetection or something... Going to do a few reboots and see how it behaves.

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First 2 boots seems to work, and boot-speed seems to have improved.

iron flare
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Hi! When i try to use my Sonoff usb dongle, i just get an error.. i cant find anything in the logs.. its just a black screen with Error in it.. I restored a backup on my new Home assistant Intel NUC. Since then im getting these errors.. anyone with experience with this?

mellow geode
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ZHA or Z2M?

iron flare
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ZHA

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I cant send screenshots here, but if i can DM you, i can send you some screenshots.

grim igloo
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you can send screenshots with imgur and link here

iron flare
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I can also restore a full backup of my home assistant, but then i only have the option to migrate the radio, what always fails.. https://i.imgur.com/fLWy9aI.png

jovial monolith
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@mellow geode 3'rd boot with a full powercycle too and everything seems to be working correctly.. So the issue seems to have been that in some recent update some behavior changed where it started using ACM1.

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@mellow geode So when you see the following from the logfile Error setting up entry ConBee II for zha
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/serial/serialposix.py", line 322, in open
self.fd = os.open(self.portstr, os.O_RDWR | os.O_NOCTTY | os.O_NONBLOCK)
FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/dev/ttyACM1'

mellow geode
jovial monolith
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@worn zephyr that might be it.. components/zha/core/gateway.py like 174 would be where i start debugging, if ever needed.

iron flare
mellow geode
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uh, that's not great. There will be something in your logs though

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Maybe it's a different error than the one I was expecting

iron flare
mellow geode
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Definitely a different error than the one I was expecting

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Is this a Sonoff-E or Sonoff-P dongle?

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At the top, it mentions "Silicon Labs" (which would be E), but the zigpy-znp library is used for the P dongle.

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From what I can tell, it's a corrupted Sonoff-P dongle

iron flare
mellow geode
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Some Sonoff-P sticks are known to kill themselves randomly

iron flare
mellow geode
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(Make sure to extract the ZIP)

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I think you'll find some tutorials on how to flash Z-Stacks online if you haven't done it before

iron flare
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Yeah, i did that also when i first got it, ill find a video about it

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Thanks for the help so far, i was hoping that there was something else i could try, but re-flashing it was my last option xD

mellow geode
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If you successfully used ZHA before, it should restore an automatic backup (so you shouldn't really notice the difference)

jovial monolith
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@mellow geode 5 reboots and always working now... Thanks for the help! If i see it again, or find a way to reproduce it, i'll gather some more debug-traces/info and submit a github-issue.

iron flare
thorn cobalt
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I Bought a Sonoff dongle P do I have to flash different firmware? I have a large scale of devices ( 200 ) mainly hue lights, innr plugs and aqara sensors. At the moment im running 2 conbees with zigbee2mqtt

grim igloo
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It’s smart to update the firmware yes

rapid dawnBOT
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@celest torrent I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

celest torrent
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everything running on raspberry pi 3b+ HA OS

sour shadow
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everything running on raspberry pi 3b HA

uncut quartz
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I'm having a very hard time troubleshooting the ikea tradfri 5 button remote. It pairs consistently, but then does nothing. No events show in the listener in developer tools. I have 3. one works, the other 2 don't. I would appreciate any suggestions on what to look at

mellow geode
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Assuming you're using ZHA, can you upload the signature of the non-working one to: https://dpaste.org/
(You'll find it on the device page -> three dots on the left -> Manage Zigbee device -> signature tab)

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Also, what version of HA are you running?

uncut quartz
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Home Assistant 2023.2.5, Supervisor 2023.01.1, Operating System 9.5, Frontend 20230202.0 - latest

haughty burrow
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team, I have the sonoff donglel-p hooked up to HA as a coordinator I guess, and have a spare dongle-e, what's the process to set it up as a repeater/externder?

uncut quartz
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diff on the signature for the two remotes shows no differences

mellow geode
uncut quartz
mellow geode
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(Before restarting reconfiguration, reload the browser page. There's currently an issue where old data may still be shown)

uncut quartz
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I appreciate you taking the time to help with this.

dry tendon
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Hi, I'm a bit unsure whether I should be getting the sonoff ZBDongle-P or E. E seems to be more experimental with z2m but I am not sure whether I should use zha or z2m. Any tips/opinions?

mellow geode
mellow geode
# uncut quartz https://imgur.com/uvbzmAz

Hmm, that looks like your device didn't receive those messages at all. Did you try a fresh battery? (Also try reconfiguration again, but just repeatedly press some button on the remote, so it wakes up)

dry tendon
mellow geode
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Just connecting to your PC and reflashing. ZHA and Z2M will then automatically restore a backup

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Maybe they've fixed this corruption stuff on newer models

dry tendon
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Feels kinda weird buying the older version instead of the newer one but software support plays a huge role I suppose

mellow geode
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I think someone mentioned the "E" only existed because of parts shortage for the P (but that might be false)

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The E should also work fine for ZHA. Doesn't work very well with Z2M yet

haughty burrow
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I have a and E that I want to setup as a router, not been picked up by z2m.

dry tendon
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Saw that there has been disucssions in the Z2M github since it launched but it's still not recommended to use it yet so probably gonna be a while more and for the price of them you might aswell change later instead

haughty burrow
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Yes, I did.

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with securCRT, loaded Z3RouterUSBDonlge_EZNet6.10.3_V1.0.0.gbl

dry tendon
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Next question would then be that I'm completly new into the zigbee space, any thing I should know? Good devices to look out for? Good for the money and like which ones should I stay away from?

haughty burrow
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I'm also a zb newbie, and have learned a lot lately

dry tendon
haughty burrow
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yes, and come here for questions.

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do you have HA up and running, with some wifi sensors?

dry tendon
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Yeah, today I'm running a rather big Telldus (433MHz) and a diy MiLight system, but both systems really wasn't cutting it. Wanted to move to zigbee for a while but wasnt till I saw a zigbee bulb in the discount section at Lidl yesterday when I finally decided to start with zigbee

haughty burrow
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yup and the sensors are cool looking, small and battery powered. ..and no need to spend time with the esp board, soldering, 3d printing the case, etc.. etc..

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they are cool

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I don't have the bulbs yet, but I'm planning on getting a few since they act as routers.

dry tendon
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Cool 🙂

haughty burrow
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..and get the dongle-P

dusty musk
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anyone got the Aqara P1 motion sensor ? I am trying to understand the "no_occupancy_since" event in zigbee2mqtt it makes no sense to me, maybe someone can enligthen me...

So just for testing purposes i have the set 2 triggers for no occupancy since one at 30 and one at 60 but from the logs all i seem to get is 2 extra events when occupancy turns to true and nothing after there is no occupancy except the switch to false

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Also is there any way to change the motion sensitivity in Z2M since this setting is not found on the device setting page. ( If not how would one go about changing that ?)

{"battery":100,"detection_interval":30,"device_temperature":21,"illuminance":55,"linkquality":196,"motion_sensitivity":"medium","occupancy":false,"power_outage_count":0,"trigger_indicator":false,"update":{"installed_version":-1,"latest_version":-1,"state":null},"update_available":null,"voltage":3233}

they come with medium as a default but can't seem to find a way to change it

uncut quartz
deep zinc
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Ugh, occurred to me those innoveli switches might do zigbee binding direct to bulbs too so they'd work if HA went down. And they do. Maybe I want those instead of the zooz zwave ones 😭

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Anyone done that? Does the bulb status update instantly in home assistant?

stoic cloud
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Hi, I have a Sonoff dongle, and some Aqara thermometers rather far away, so they lose connection every few days. So I installed some smartlife zigbee light switches half way, and I was asuming they would/could perform as a repeater. But the visualisation graph in HA doesn't show the aqara's as connected via the switches. Do I need to manually force them to? Where? Or am I wrong that the switches should perform as a repeater?

sour shadow
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Assuming they're actually Zigbee routers (many two-wire switches/dimmers aren't) then you'll need to re-pair those sensors through the switches

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Aqara's Zigbee 1.2 devices are sticky and rarely change parent on their own

stoic cloud
rapid dawnBOT
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@stoic cloud When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

sour shadow
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Not even if you offer then a chocolate bar

stoic cloud
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🙂

sour shadow
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They remember how they connected, so if you want that to change you have to force it

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Also, they pair to the first thing they hear from, hence why you have to pair explicitly through the switch

stoic cloud
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But I suppose for that the switch should have some interface, that will let me force the switch to start listening to new devices?

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I am trying to find more specs of my AliExpress bseed switches, to confirm that they can repeat. But not found any yet. It is the reason that I bought them though

sour shadow
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ZHA and Z2M both have options to only allow pairing through a specific router

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Z2M lists whether a device is a router or end device, I assume ZHA does too but I've never used it

inland agate
stoic cloud
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I have managed to get Z2M to work. I installed it, but it stops after starting. I assume ZHA is the Zigbee Sonoff intergration? That works so far, and shows me a visualisation (without a mesh, everything directly connects to the sonoff only).

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Sorry: I have NOT managed to get Z2M to work.

sour shadow
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. I assume ZHA is the Zigbee Sonoff intergration
yes

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But you can't run Z2M and ZHA at the same time, using the same coordinator

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The Z2M logs would have helped you work out the problem

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(not that it matters, if you're happy with ZHA stay with it)

stoic cloud
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Thanks for that clarification. I checked those logs, but they weren't as clear as you are now.

sour shadow
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Well, they'll never say you need to stop ZHA first ... because Z2M doesn't know. It just knows it can't use the stick so throws a generic stick be dead error

stoic cloud
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Clear enough

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I found my list of devices in ZHA, but where exactly does it say whether it is a repeater or end-point?

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A, found it: Device type: Enddevice

inland agate
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I was just taking a screenshot for you

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that's the one

stoic cloud
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Unfortunately also for my light switches.

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Which brings me to an older question/struggle I had. The 'manual' says I should connect that switch to the smart life app as well. I have done that many times with my older wifi devices, but now I am exploring to replace those with Zigbee. So so far I have refused to use Tuya smart life, to configure the zigbee switches. Partly because I can't believe that my wifi-phone with the smart life app will be able to find the zigbee switch anyway. Am I right? Or do those Zigbee devices hade a wifi or other protocol for being able to reach my phone?

inland agate
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Unless you have a smart life connected Zigbee hub, you have no way of connecting the devices to the app

stoic cloud
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I assumed I would need a hub like that indeed. Then, as a work around, can that sonoff zigbee dongle be reached by the tyua smartlife cloud? It doesn't yet show in the smartlife app.

inland agate
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the dongle doesn't have internet connectivity unless it's connected to something, so it can't reach the cloud on its own.

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"connected to something" = "plugged into something"

stoic cloud
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Thanks for all your replies, really appreciate your knowledge and experience. I have two more tracks of uncertainty I wish to share: 1. using a Mi Smart Home hub, 2. Is Zigbee really a better alternative to Wifi iot? I'll clarify both:

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Question 1. 2 years ago I bought a Xiaomi Mi Hub, because it was required for 4 bulbs I bought. I assumed the bulbs were zigbee, and it would be my start to using zigbee. But recently I figured out the bulbs don't use zigbee, but bluetooth. I am not happy with the bluetooth bulbs, so I will get rid of them eventually. But I still have that hub, which functions as a zigbee coordinator as well. It used to connect to the Aquara sensors well, but now that I have that Sonoff dongle, obviously I want the sensors to connect to the dongle. What worries me, is that I have 2 zigbee coordinators in the house, probably making things more complex. My question: Is that Xiaomi of any use for zigbee in HA, maybe it can even function as a repeater to the sonoff zigbee network?

inland agate
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probably closer to 10 EUR, actually

stoic cloud
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  1. Most HA users promote zigbee over Wifi. So I dug into one more learning curve to get it up and running. But now, after 4 months with that dongle, and 1 month with the zigbee switches, I have my doubts: 1. Zigbee seems more expensive 2. Zigbee doesn't easily connect to voice commands via Google Home, 3. The mesh doesn't work as easy as suggested by many. 4. My sensors lose connections anyway
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Yes, I noticed the slower latency via the chinese cloud and full wifi networks. And I will try to disable the zigbee functionality on that Xiami devices until I can kick the whole thing out after replacing those bluetooth bulbs

inland agate
# stoic cloud 2. Most HA users promote zigbee over Wifi. So I dug into one more learning curve...

Zigbee doesn't connect to Google Home at all, actually. Some hubs provide that functionality in the absence of HA. Your HA instance connects to both GA and your Zigbee integration and forwards whatever Zigbee devices you have to Google so you can control them, but it's a multi-step approach.

The mesh works as well as the devices in it (routers, in particular) implement the Zigbee protocol stack. Aqara (of which I have way too many devices, myself) treats Zigbee as some easy Sunday lecture as opposed to a standard to follow, hence the crappy mesh coverage. Which is also why sensors lose connection, especially in noisy environments (noisy from a 2.4GHz standpoint).

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The reason for promoting Zigbee is that lack of internet exposure (excluding chinese hubs, I mean) makes it safer from getting hacked and part of a botnet and, very importantly, it's a lot less power hungry than WiFi for battery powered devices

stoic cloud
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You sound very experienced. When I started using HA 2 years ago, I chose to buy all kind of brands of IoT gadgets on AliExpress, as to build up experience in a multi-vendor environment. Slowly I am finding out, how may devices follow that - I like your words - Sunday lecture. So now it is time to focus on less vendors and less standards.

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Yes, I like the battery-design-element of Zigbee

inland agate
stoic cloud
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Cool

inland agate
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and what the implications are on my smart home. Although that should have steered me clear of Aqara devices, apparently I have some form of Stockholm syndrome and decided to fill my new home with their switches because they were the best looking alternative 😅

stoic cloud
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:-). And then checking on repeaters. We believe Zigbee is good for battery life. But does't a separate repeater that needs to be plugged in to something, disobey to that low-energy concept?

inland agate
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I don't care about overall network-level power consumption as long as my thermostats don't fail because I forgot to change the battery on a temp sensor 😄

stoic cloud
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So which repeater would you recommend? The IKEA ones?

sour shadow
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Innr's power plugs are solid

inland agate
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I have not tested as many to actually recommend anything

sour shadow
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Or you can buy a CC2652 based stick and flash router firmware to it - they support 50 child devices

inland agate
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I'm super happy with Ikea and Lidl/Silvercrest plugs, buy YMMV

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Can't say the same about Aqara, in case I didn't make myself clear so far 😅

sour shadow
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My Lidl plug would spend half the time unavailable

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I've no Aqara router devices, but all their end devices are fine

stoic cloud
inland agate
inland agate
stoic cloud
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Everything in HA is trivial once you found it

sour shadow
inland agate
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in ZHA, i mean

sour shadow
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Quite probably - I've seen problems with other devices where the Z2M equivalent isn't quite right

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Or there's been a firmware update and they behave differently with the new firmware

stoic cloud
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So should I switch to Z2M, instead of ZHA?

sour shadow
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Nah

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Use whatever you prefer

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Both Z2M and ZHA are good. Z2M has a wider user-base and support for non-standard devices tends to happen sooner.

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ZHA has the advantage that if a device is standards compliant it'll "just work"

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All four of them

stoic cloud
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Haven't explored the other yet, since I didn't get it going

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Then - maybe, but probably not - my last question: Do you use Nabu Casa, f.e. to integrate Zigbee to Google Home or Alexa? (to support voice commands)?

inland agate
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No, I use Cloudflared

stoic cloud
inland agate
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If I may divert the conversation, is it just me or is the SkyConnect utter 💩 ? My mesh was never as weak and intermittent as it's been since I switched out the Lidl Tuya Zigbee gateway, about a week ago. Would this have to do that me majority of my routers (again, Aqara wall switches) have not optimized their path to the new coordinator? Anything I can do to fix the reliability?

stoic cloud
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One more question: If my Bseed zigbee wall light switches don't have a built in repeater, is there an alternative product that you would recommend? I wish to replace my standard European manual switches. I would even be happy to find touch switches without a relay, so I can use smart bulbs.

inland agate
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I would recommend having a physical fallback to turn on/off switches in case Zigbee fails

stoic cloud
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In that case you can unscrew the bulb, right?;-p

inland agate
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yeah, or light a candle

stoic cloud
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lol

hybrid laurel
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anyone knows how to add aqara 3gang switch to zigbee2mqtt?

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not sure why on the list only 1 or 2 gang

hybrid laurel
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im trying to add aqara h1 3gang switch to HA.... any has any suggestion?

sour shadow
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Are you trying to add it to Zigbee2MQTT or HA (aka ZHA)?

hybrid laurel
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prefer to add to zigbee2mqtt since most of my stuff added in already

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just realised 3gang dun work out of box with zigbee2mqtt

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seems like someone tried adding but encountered dunno wat issue

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if add to zha ....i will need aqara hub......dunno if i should get china or global version hub

sour shadow
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Why will you need the Aqara hub?

hybrid laurel
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my sonoff already use for zigbee2mqtt

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cannot use concurrent with ZHA right?

sour shadow
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No

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And the Aqara hub won't work with ZHA

hybrid laurel
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then how to add aqara h1 via ZHA?

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sonoff?

sour shadow
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By buying another coordinator, or migrating everything to ZHA

hybrid laurel
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not sure if everything else works fine with zha

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got most of the devices on zigbee2mqtt already

hybrid laurel
sour shadow
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By buying another coordinator

hybrid laurel
jaunty maple
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Posted in the z2m discord as well but maybe someone here knows the answer. I have an Aqara E1 Roller shade that i could get into Z2M without problem and it's working fine expect for motor_state and runnig, both those report null and not their values.

dull quartz
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I am having weird bindings issues... I have an IKEA 5 button remote, three IKEA bulbs and another zigbee integrated lamp. If I bind the remote to the lamp it works, but I am unable to bind to the bulbs. If I switch it around and bind to the bulbs first, that works, but then I am unable to bind to the lamp... I'd be very interested in ideas for troubleshooting or any logic as to why this doesn't work... Using ZHA with a Sonoff Dongle-E.

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Can I see somewhere what devices are bound?

junior viper
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Hi all, I'm stuck in my troubleshooting. I have one of this siren: https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/SA100.html#cleverio-sa100

I am not able to trigger the siren off of it, since the only entity that gets 'published' throughout MQTT to HA is the "binary_sensor.blabla_alarm', which I cannot use in automations.. What am I missing? Or, is this device suitable for the bin?

grizzled kettle
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Does the siren go off if you publish that MQTT warning topic?

junior viper
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I've only tried using the UI, which seems to not do anything at all

lilac wharf
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You need to publish the appropriate payload to the warning topic

junior viper
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Are there any ELI5-text on how to do it? I feel quite newbish on these things

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HA -> Dev tools -> Services -> MQTT Publish?

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i'm using z2m in a separate docker, not in HA/supervised

sour shadow
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Doesn't matter how you run Z2M

junior viper
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https://imgur.com/ECDwY9u

{"warning": {"mode": burglar, "level": medium, "strobe_level": very_high, "strobe": true, "strobe_duty_cycle": 10, "duration": 5}}

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invalid message: null.. skipping......... says Z2M 😦

junior viper
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Could this be the reason it's not possible to send MQTT topic to it? Alarm (binary)

Value can be found in the published state on the alarm property. It's not possible to read (/get) or write (/set) this value. If value equals true alarm is ON, if false OFF.

haughty burrow
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what are the color bulb smart people are buying here?

solar monolith
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Does anyone have "tips" to properly setup ZHA for Philips Hue bulbs?
I've migrated from the hue bridge and turn on/off transition times are awfully slow and brightness and color changes are immediate without a fade-in

echo loom
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Can someone tell me if there's an easy way to migrate from zigbee2mqtt -> zha ? I really need the battery states to show up and z2mqtt does not provide those. I believe zha does, right?

grizzled kettle
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Battery states of what? z2m shows all my battery levels.

echo loom
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I don't see a single one of mine. Always shows 100% Xiaomi temp/door sensors mainly

solar monolith
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The hue dimmer switches battery levels work quite well with ZHA

mellow geode
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turn on/off transition times are awfully slow
And what do you mean with this? Are the transition times when turning on/off the bulb longer? (Because they're on-device, so that can't really be the case)

molten linden
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I know with my hue bulbs if I just do a toggle on the entity they do a slower transition vs a service call with brightness level. dmulcahey explained to me once but I forget lol.

solar monolith
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Are the transition times when turning on/off the bulb longer?
Yes, they're like 1-3s (can't measure it).

set the "transition time" from 0 to 1 to add the fade-in
Do you know if there's a way to set it to e.g. 0,3? 1s is too much again 😄

mellow geode
# molten linden I know with my hue bulbs if I just do a toggle on the entity they do a slower tr...

Yep, that's expected. Hue bulbs have a default turn_on/off transition of 1 second. When you just toggle the entity in HA, an "on" or "off" command gets sent to the bulb. It doesn't contain any transition time. The bulb just adds it.
Brightness and color change commands require a transition time to be sent though, so when changing it through the UI, ZHA uses the default one that's provided in the ZHA config panel. (By default, that's 0) (I think the Hue Bridge uses 0.8 seconds or 1 second)

mellow geode
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Yes, they're like 1-3s (can't measure it).
It should be a consistent one second (exactly like what it was on the Hue Bridge). ZHA can't (and does not) modify this behavior

grim igloo
mellow geode
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It is. Z2M's transition time setting for each bulb is like the one that ZHA uses globally.
Both Z2M and ZHA only use that for "move to level" or "move to color (temp)" calls.

grim igloo
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Controls the transition time (in seconds) of on/off, brightness, color temperature (if applicable) and color (if applicable) changes. Defaults to `0` (no transition).``` this setting in z2m does nothing?
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(in bulb settings)

finite igloo
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Is it possible with a Zigbee color light bulb (I’m thinking of using a Sengled bulb) to have a the bulb trigger to turn to different colors? For example, Window #1 opens and its open/close sensor tells the bulb to turn red and when Window #2 opens its open/close sensor tells the bulb to turn blue?

grizzled kettle
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Yes you can change the color in automations.

drifting marsh
# haughty burrow what are the color bulb smart people are buying here?

I like the Sengled bulbs because they are not repeaters. Bulbs often are on a switch or in a lamp - so it's better if your Zigbee mesh is not disturbed when someone turns off a bulb. But this means you need enough other repeaters - like smart outlets or zigbee repeaters. Note I'm not claiming to be particularly smart - but this is working well for me.

mellow geode
grim igloo
mellow geode
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If they're turned on/off using a simple on/off call, they will default to the bulb's default transition time

grim igloo
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Sorry I meant zigbee scenes

mellow geode
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Ah, uh

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Not sure. I think the transition time is optional for reactivating scenes according to ZCL, but Z2M might always send that value

grim igloo
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googles ZCL

dire owl
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Picked up one too many aqara door window contact sensor.... any idea what to do with it? All my doors and windows and fridges and some interior doors are taken care of...😂

dire owl
grim igloo
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sucks

dire owl
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I was thinking my toaster but not sure my wife would like that

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Tell you if the toast is burning

mellow geode
deep zinc
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lol years ago I printed and had that zcl spec bound at Staples while I was working on something... that I never finished.

grim igloo
naive summit
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You can disassemble those door switches and use them with any electric switch, not just the internal reed switch.

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One person on the internet stitched a car seat presence detector (used to arm airbags in new cars) into their office chair, then wired that into the guts of a disassembled door switch.

glossy lintel
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so I got that nice skyconnect in the mail yesterday, but I finally got my sonoff usb key to work "OK'ish" with Z2M

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so I'm like, damn, I have the skyconnect and I don't want to re-pair everything if things just works

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also I do not really know the added value as all my sensors, buttons, and light bulbs are zigbee ones

sour shadow
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Using the SkyConnect with Z2M is not recommended anyway

inland agate
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you don't have to re-pair everything, but you will have to go to ZHA easily migrate

sour shadow
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If you wanted to use it you'd want to migrate to ZHA

glossy lintel
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well, I also don't see the added value swapping to ZHA

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its all integrated and that's nice, but Z2M works now

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so, I guess I have a skyconnect on the shelve

inland agate
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then don't. as far as I can see, the Skyconnect is not that good

glossy lintel
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I keep it, just in case

inland agate
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it introduces dropouts, worse radio signal, unavailability

glossy lintel
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wow, not nice

inland agate
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maybe it's just me and a handful of others, but my Zigbee network has been crap since I switched over

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I need to find a bit of time to replace it with my old coordinator and migrate back

glossy lintel
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well, only looking at its form factor, compared to the sonoff dongle, it has no antenna, looks so small...

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I don't get how its signal could be better than the one of the sonoff device

naive summit
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That was my take as well.

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The silicon labs chip that can do Thread is interesting, but the newer sonoff dongle has a nearly identical chip.

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I’m very happy with my zzh!

inland agate
naive summit
inland agate
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and that's what I'm going back to as soon as the wife can forego lights, plugs and heating for an hour in the evening 😅

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skyconnect has put a very serious dent in the WAF

naive summit
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Interesting, didn’t know the zzh can do thread too. Is this an either or thing, or could it do both at once?

sour shadow
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It'd depend on the firmware, but I'd expect either at this point in time

tepid arrow
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somebody ever noticed on that Philips Hue Dimmer Switch ( 929002398602) you need to press two times to light up a group which is directly connect via zigbee2mqtt? But if you press shortly after it reacts instantly, it seems to be a kind of wakeup?
But the first press shows up as well in the logs of Home Assistant?

twin bronze
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just trying to update from zigbee2mqtt from 1.181 to 1.3xx. does anyone know, where my configs are located? can't find any "shared" or "zigbee..." folder

twin bronze
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okay, found out how to find. needed to install a different filebrowser. now everything shows up

short condor
floral scarab
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Hey I have been having issues with Ikea Buttons disconnecting from zha after 1-2 days. I then have to re pair them and set them back up. Anyone else been having the same issues?

mellow geode
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What coordinator are you using?

floral scarab
mellow geode
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Sonoff-P or Sonoff-E dongle?

grim igloo
floral scarab
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I guess P?

grim igloo
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That’s the p

mellow geode
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Make sure the IKEA buttons have a fresh battery in them and reconfigure the buttons through the UI.
Go to the device config page of the IKEA button -> three dots -> reconfigure UI. As soon as you click on "Start reconfiguration", press a button on the remote (maybe even multiple times)

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That should also reconfigure the checkin events in case that’s the reason the remotes drop off

terse prairie
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Maybe a stupid question: are zigbee battery devices polled? (And if so, is the polling interval configurable?). Or do the devices themselves determine how often to push data back to the coordinator?

steep anchor
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have some thirdreality plugs and plugged it into my sump pump but it doesn't recognize the current fast enough before the sump pump shuts off. Is there a way to change the rate of status updates?

floral scarab
sour shadow
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Maybe a stupid question are zigbee

hybrid laurel
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Anyone know how to manually link end device to router instead of sonoff dongle? my z2m network now is a star network ....all end device and router connected directly to dongle....its there any way to manually arrange?

sour shadow
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Use the option in Z2M to pair the device through a specific router

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Devices may still change parent afterwards

mellow geode
steep anchor
crystal hull
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I just added a Ikea E1743 remote to Z2M and i got a notification for a new firmware for it. After trying to update it several times i got the same error (Device didn't respond to OTA request). I have tried to repair it multiple times and ive tried at least 3 new batteries. This also happend a few days ago with a Ikea E1810 remote. Anyone know how to solve it?

grim igloo
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i've never done updates for remotes just heard that suggested before

crystal hull
jolly geode
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Hey guys, trying to work with Aqara H1 (with Neutral) in "decoupled" mode and have a major problem:

Action Sensor Entity never gets updated when pressing one of the buttons, always refers to "none"

https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/WS-EUK04.html

[...] Action (enum)
Triggered action (e.g. a button click). Value can be found in the published state on the action property. It's not possible to read (/get) or write (/set) this value. The possible values are: single_left, double_left, single_right, double_right, single_both, double_both. [...]

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Is this because of the "It's not possible to read (/get) or write (/set) this value" part?

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@junior reef Did you get the Aqara H1 to work in decoupled Mode?

floral scarab
jolly geode
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I'm now trying in relay mode with no Light connected to the switch (lights always powered) and it works when pressing the switch from Z2M, but if I press the same switch physically I have to update the status manually..

jolly geode
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Can anyone suggest a working Wall Switch? I want to connect only L and N (for powering the Switch), Switch should expose entities for button presses on which I can react via Automation..

short sandal
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I’ve stuck with the battery ikea dimmer/switches or relay modules that attach to the old switches. Curious about powered switches as well, but OTOH I don’t want my lights entirely reliant on the HA server.

junior reef
jolly geode
rapid dawnBOT
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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

junior reef
jolly geode
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Trying to change my settings

junior reef
jolly geode
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For example press Left Button -> HA catches the button press and turns on a Zigbee Light..

junior reef
jolly geode
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Damn, trying for hours now but automation never triggers..

junior reef
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Does the event come through? You can check in developer tools

jolly geode
mellow geode
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After re-pairing that IKEA remote, try another reconfiguration

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Note: you don’t have to delete the remote from ZHA for either step

junior reef
# jolly geode https://i.imgur.com/gLJESfz.png

Not sure what action does tbh. I think you want to track left and right to see the state of the switch. So you track it in the same place where you see action and if you see that changes upon pressing the switch then use that in your automation to toggle the light state

jolly geode
junior reef
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Hm, and is the switch visible in z2m tab?

jolly geode
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I have to pres the Update Buttons to read the current state (while taken the screenshot, both side were already switched off but still showing "on").. If I press the switch in HA the state shows correct..

https://i.imgur.com/J5pVuRK.png

junior reef
#

Maybe force delete and re-pair the device?

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I don't think I have any ideas how to debug it, sorry

floral scarab
jolly geode
jolly geode
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@junior reef I got it to work, had to update firmware of my zigbee stick 😅

swift frigate
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which one is best?

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oh well got aquara one because it looks best and doesn't go to sleep if button not pressed for long

swift frigate
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let's go I contacted amazon to return my old hub and the old knob switch and I got to keep the switch because it was so shit they didn't want it.

grim igloo
#

Where are we going?

gusty lantern
#

Hey guys after the update today, my skyconnect stopped working with ZHA Im getting this errors:
https://imgur.com/hRgYv2M
any ideas what is the problem?

mellow geode
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At the moment, this is expected behavior, but completely crashing ZHA when a custom quirk fails load might not be the best idea

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Custom quirks aren’t really meant for permanent use though. More of as a temporary workaround

gusty lantern
mellow geode
gusty lantern
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@mellow geode Hey, im not sure if that's all the logs you need, if you need anything else let me know

dusky edge
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probably a very stupid question, but do i still need MQTT broker if i migrate to ZHA?

gusty lantern
dusky edge
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thank you 😁

dawn quest
#

Trying to set up Sonoff ZBDongle-P with ZHA but at the Serial Port Settings dialog box it says “Failed to connect” any ideas?

dawn quest
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Running plain vanilla HA with ZHA on a Raspberry Pi 4, e.g. no docker

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I have also the zigbee2mqtt add-on installed

lost stump
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PSA: If anyone else besides me struggled with the IKEA STYRBAR (E2001/E2002 remotes and Zigbee2mqtt, the latest version of Zigbee2mqtt fixes this.

mellow geode
mellow geode
cedar patrol
#

Hi,
I have a zigbee remote and zigbee lamps. I want the remote to the controle the light (on and of). The remote is active in HA and also the light and sockets. In the log i can see the remote fires a on event. How to use this? Any help please. I am new to HA... The remote and light is from the brand LEDISONS

gray fog
long pilot
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I've only used them through the Hue hub though

gray fog
long pilot
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Hue themselves follow the pattern method to reset first

gray fog
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yup with the channel 11

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tried resetting, move all the way close etc, getting crazy xD

hollow marsh
#

Any idea why my (unflashed) lidl silvercrest smart plug (with zigbee) suddenly stopped working with zha? I have the cc2531 zigbee dongle and I hope this is the problem. It worked for over a week without flaws and suddenly stopped working. Haven’t done any updates (until this morning to hope it fixes itself)
I tried yesterday to implement the plug with z2m but it couldn’t interview. It this due to the dongle that is just crap or are there other problems?

jade mirage
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good morning fine people.

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added to all relevasnt groups... was working til my docker host crashed. installing on a new docker host

violet wave
gusty lantern
tropic depot
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puddly already approved it. Rebase it and I'll take a look at it when I have some time later tonight

violet wave
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@tropic depot thanks !

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and rebased 🙂

tropic depot
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I'm in EST i'll try to look at it later tonight. Work has been very busy for a bit

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hopefully 8pm ish tonight

violet wave
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I appreciate it, thanks ! I'm in CET so I'll be sleeping by then 🙂

dull bramble
gusty lantern
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Hey guys I really need help, after the update yesterday it seems like my SkyConnect just died

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anyone else having problems like that?

molten linden
#

Did you try unplugging it and re-plugging it in? did you enable multi-protocol by chance?

mellow geode
molten linden
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if you enable multi protocol are you using it?

dull bramble
gusty lantern
molten linden
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then you need to reflash the ezsp fw to the sky connect

gusty lantern
molten linden
gusty lantern
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ok ill give it a try and let you all know

mellow geode
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Before you reflash it, please send me the whole log file (via DM)

gusty lantern
gusty lantern
molten linden
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matter is a layer on top of other things wifi or thread.

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multiprotocol enable zigbee and thread concurrently on the skyconnect (and other efr32 radios) but use a different fw then just the plain zigbee use.

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when you enabe multiprotocol it will flash the MuilProtocol RCP FW to the skyconnect. and the addon will then need to start and zha be repointed to the addon to continue to function. I think this is all done in the back ground, but I've not done it first hand to know for sure

lavish widget
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Hi, I am trying to get Z2M to work wth SkyConnect with Multiprotocol. But when Zigbee2MQTT is starting up I get an error about "Error while starting zigbee-herdsman" + "Error: Connection not initialized".
Anyone who can support on this?

#

I try to connect using:
port: socket://core-silabs-multiprotocol:9999
adapter: ezsp

mellow geode
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Do you have to use tcp:// for Z2M maybe? (and otherwise, try to add .local or use the IP?)

molten linden
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z2m uses tcp://

lavish widget
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Sorry! My mistake, I agree tcp:// is correct. That is what I have been using all day. I recently switched to socket:// o see if I get another error.
Now I have changed back. But I get the same error.
So under "Serial" I have the following:
port: tcp://core-silabs-multiprotocol:9999
adapter: ezsp

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In the logs for Silicon Labs Multiprotocol I can see the following:

Default: mDNSPlatformSendUDP got error 99 (Cannot assign requested address) sending packet to ff02::fb on interface fe80::e05c:c3ff:fe5a:7989/veth29a2825/31

But I am not sure if it is related. But maybe a clue or should it be like that?

mellow geode
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Are you running both Z2M and the Multiprotocol stuff as HA addons?

lavish widget
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Yes only as addons

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I also disabled the ZHA device

mellow geode
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"Remember/copy the hostname of the add-on (e.g. c8f00288-silabs-multiprotocol)."

lavish widget
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it says core-silabs-multiprotocol

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is there any way of manually testing if the hostname is correct?

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From my computer I can actually ping the hostname core-silabs-multiprotocol. It resolves to my local IP of my HAOS server.

lavish widget
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Now I think I got further.....
I changed port on "Silicon Labs Multiprotocol" to 7777
And now I get the following error:
Error: Failure send version:{"type":"Buffer","data":[1,0,1,0,0,10]}

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In "Silicon Labs Multiprotocal" I see the following log:

Accepted connection 7.
Restarting
[21:07:07:250433] Info : Endpoint socket #12: Client disconnected. 1 connections
[21:07:07:250455] Info : Client disconnected
[21:07:08:268215] Info : New client connection using library v4.2.1.0
[21:07:08:276783] Info : Endpoint socket #12: Client connected. 2 connections
Reusing socket from previous instance.
Socket connection has been closed, restarting...
Listening on port 7777 for connection...
Accepting connection.

swift frigate
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how far away does my zigbee stick have to be from the pi 4

lavish widget
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Adaks> Not an expert, but I use a 50cm extension cable

dull bramble
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I'm not familiar with that.

deep zinc
#

innr smart plugs work well as extenders?

sour shadow
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They form the core of my mesh, working really well.

deep zinc
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Great

sour shadow
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The only downside is that they don't do power monitoringg

deep zinc
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Oh no

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cancels order

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Looks like the 15A ones do.

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I've got some securifi peanut plugs that seem great according to my visualization but are a lot more expensive now than when I got them. Had to upgrade the firmware to get energy monitoring but it works.

lilac wharf
swift frigate
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ppl say it causes interference if close but idk i dont think that is so true

ashen bluff
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Check the pinned message in this channel

dull bramble
#

This seems like a fairly serious usb 3.0 design oversight.

naive summit
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Gotta but nice cables

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Preferably shielded ones.

dull bramble
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Just use shielded 3.0 cables.

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Or don't use 2.4ghz devices near active USB3.0

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I expect usb3.0 won't cause interference if nothing's plugged in there.

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The problem appears to be radio noise from USB3.0 data lines. Emanating from the USB3.0 data lines in the usb 3.0 cable, or maybe even the connector on the board.

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I would expect decent motherboard manufacturers to be aware of this and shield the mobo 3.0 data lines.
Then you are just responsible for using shielded cables for the 3.0 🙂

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The alternative, would be an extension for the USB 2.4ghz line.

mellow geode
ashen bluff
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It's in the pinned messages on this channel I referred to

mellow geode
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yep, but nobody ever checks the pinned messages 😆

grim igloo
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checks the pins

molten linden
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or don't make zigbee coordinators that are made to plug straight into usb ports. 🤷🏼‍♂️

final kestrel
#

Hey now, let us take a pi zero and run a tcp stream back to ha

sour shadow
#

Keyboard troubles latelyy

violet wave
#

@tropic depot thank you !

tribal sparrow
#

After migrating my SkyConnect to Multi-PAN (and removing ZHA, recreation of ZHA with the socket connection as migration just returned unknown error) none of my ZigBee devices are reacting to commands and none of the sensors are reporting back to Home Assistant.

How would I go about troubleshooting this issue?
Nothing in the logs are indicating errors.

tribal sparrow
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Okay, correction - ZHA logs shows a bunch of 'Failed to deliver message: EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102' errors and has marked all devices offline by now

dull bramble
cedar patrol
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The remote have 6 buttons en 4 zone...

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how for example use to check witch button is pressed?

rigid onyx
#

Anyone know how to have scenes slowly fade into their colors with hue lights? I’m using a Pi 4 (4GB) with Raspbee II

final kestrel
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set transition time?

mossy gyro
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If you really just want to check which button is pressed, you should be able to add all switches to the history and see in the graph which one changes it’s state/value.

violet wave
tropic depot
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HA PR has test failures

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they both do actually

violet wave
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ho right I didn't notice 😦

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I'll fix, thanks !

crystal hull
#

Has this happend anyone else? I tried to add my second ikea E1743 button after not getting the first one to work and when i try to check the battery there is just a flashing red "%" even tho i changed the battery multiple times. And even tho im only a few meters from the coordinator and have great signal, the buttons on the switch doesnt do anythin when i check its entities. I use zigbee2mqtt btw

grizzled kettle
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ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT?

crystal hull
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Zigbee2MQTT

thorn cobalt
#

Which firmware is best / do i need to run many devices on sonoff dongle P and zigbee2mqtt?

mellow geode
thorn cobalt
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i can't find any details about the amount of devices running on what firmware

mellow geode
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What amount of devices are you trying to run?

thorn cobalt
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200+

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currently running 2 conbees but the networks aren't stable

#

I also tried skyconnect but running around 90 devices it completely got stuck

mellow geode
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SkyConnect should work fine. IIRC (might be wrong) current Z-Stack firmware has a limit of 200 Zigbee 3.0 devices. Silicon Labs based sticks (like SkyConnect) shouldn't have this limit, as they use a hashed link key (and TI saves them individually).

mellow geode
mellow geode
thorn cobalt
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devices randomly stopped working / not reporting taking ages to pair devices

mellow geode
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Did you migrate the network to SkyConnect from a Conbee or did you set it up freshly?

thorn cobalt
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fresh

mellow geode
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USB extension was attached to the SkyConnect, right?

thorn cobalt
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yes its around 5 meters away from any interference and also on channel 15

mellow geode
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Like, my main network is not running on SkyConnect at the moment, but I've migrated to it once before and it was working without any issues with ~120 devices back then. (with ZHA though)

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Ah, I forgot you're running Z2M. Support is still somewhat experimental there

thorn cobalt
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maybe i have to try it again but it took me a whole day to reset all devices and a angry wife 🙂

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zha is also no problem for me it just has to be stable

wet socket
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@thorn cobalt i would suggest to wait a little with SkyConnect. I am with 100+ devices here and I was not able to stabilize my network with SkyConnect and ZHA as well. No matter what i've tried. But maybe you will have more luck then me. 🙂

thorn cobalt
wet socket
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if you have many "old gen" aqara end devices (motion/door/temp sensors) be careful with SkyConnect... 🙂

thorn cobalt
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Mainly hue lights and yep a lot of aqara sensors

wet socket
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...for time being... i guess/hope those issues will be resolved soon...

mellow geode
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Old gen Aqara devices work very well with ZHA and EZSP.
EZSP is the longest supported and likely most stable "coordinator protocol" for use with ZHA. I think all main ZHA devs even run EZSP networks (at least some even with old Aqara devices and no issues whatsoever).

wet socket
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As I said, I guess I am the unlucky one. 🙂 same setup with cc2652 and z2m running stable. but you know the story. 😉

gentle sage
#

hey, i have a skyconnect stick and it didn't connect since 2023.3:

mellow geode
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Ah, so you enabled experimental multi protocol. Make sure the addon is still running (try to restart it maybe) and check that ZHA is using the correct URL for that.

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Some people seem to change their stick path to the SkyConnect one, although they need to use the hostname:port of the addon

inland agate
#

Using ZHA and back to my trusty ol' Lidl Zigbee Gateway. I have a suspicion that migrating forth (to Skyconnect) and back + relocating the coordinator is generating a lot of noise from loosely-connected, initial-parent-loving devices (many of which are Aqara). I also want to change the Zigbee channel. Is there any way to unpair all devices at once and make sure they are not on the network at all anymore, and just start fresh?

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And can that be achieved without having to rename all entities in HA again?

mellow geode
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If you really want to start with a fresh network and ZHA, you could do the following:

  1. Backup HA (+ download a Zigbee radio backup)
  2. Delete zigbee.db (HA Core probably shouldn't be running at that point)
  3. Re-configure radio and "erase network and form a new one"
  4. (maybe delete zigbee.db again at that point + restart HA)
  5. Download a Zigbee backup (for the fresh network), change the channel from 15 to 25 (or whatever) and restore that backup
  6. Verify the new channel is displayed on the ZHA config page (and the nwk id/key is different to your old one)
  7. Re-pair all devices to the new network

You could even spin up a second HA instance with an old coordinator and your old backup. Then, on the new/fresh instance, allow joins whilst removing mains-powered devices one by one from the "old HA instance". They would join the new network then (as that is allowing joins).
After that, you just have to re-pair all battery-powered devices maually.

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But, if you want to keep entity settings, never delete the ZHA integration. The entity settings are stored in the HA entity/device registry (``/config/.storage/`) and should not be modified by hand. As long as you don't delete the ZHA integration, they should be kept.

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Deleting zigbee.db is also an optional step probably. If you want a new network, just erasing + re-forming a network would be enough. Deleting zigbee.db just gets rid of all "old stuff" too (but optional)

deep zinc
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had first gen hue bulbs out front in garage sconce... couldn't get them to pair up at all. replaced with current gen, paired right away. communication on the old ones is just terrible.

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even after I replaced one, and home assistant could see the others it only got as far as "starting interview," never could actually add them

drifting vortex
#

Hey having a sudden problem with all of our Tuya TS0601 thermostats, these have been working fine for the better part of a year, suddenly today found can no longer turn them on by clicking the flame icon. If I click this while I have Zigbee2MQTT open, I see this message.

Publish set system_mode to DAVE-RADIATOR failed. Value heat is not allowed, expected one of auto, off, on

Any ideas why this is suddenly an issue?

gentle sage
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@mellow geode thanks i reinstalled the firmware... and it worked partially... some devices need some time apparently

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the manufacture doesn't matter it occurs with Lidl Livarno Lux, aqara opple, osram and others.... but i had the same issue with deconz and ConBee II

mellow geode
gentle sage
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hmmm ok i did't know that....

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i have some devices i can't access without crawling through the attic. it would have been nice if i could have reconnect them after disconnect without physical access

mellow geode
gentle sage
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what do you mean with "remote"? the device?

mellow geode
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Yeah, battery-powered "switches" (from your screenshot) are often called remotes, because that's essentially what they are. (Switch being a relay)

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Or is your Opple Switch not one of these Aqara Opple battery-powered "remotes"?

inland agate
#

Luckily, i even have 2 identical coordinators plus the skyconnect, i could probably spin up another HA instance just to keep devices connected and not interfering with the new network

mellow geode
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Yep, that would work. (just make sure to migrate the devices to the coordinator that you don't want to use in the end first, so you can join them directly to your new coordinator (SkyConnect))

gentle sage
inland agate
mellow geode
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SkyConnect should be really good. Did you have it on a USB extension?

inland agate
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Yup, 3m extension cable, ~2m and one drywall apart from the wifi router

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I have 30+ mains powered devices and the entire responsiveness was simply better (not perfect) on the old coordinator

mellow geode
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and the old coordinator was an EZSP based reflashed LIDL hub, right?

inland agate
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Exactly

mellow geode
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and you migrated to the SkyConnect using the ZHA feature?

inland agate
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Yup

mellow geode
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Do you remember checking some box where you overrode the IEEE (which can only be done once)?

inland agate
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I did, yes

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I remember and i overrode it

mellow geode
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Weird, EZSP to EZSP migration (with IEEE override) should be just fine. I had no issues with ~120 devices or so on a SkyConnect

inland agate
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The migration itself was a breeze, far easier than expected

mellow geode
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Was the SkyConnect in the same place as the LIDL hub? (And the LIDL hub was turned off?)

inland agate
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Not the same place and the old hub was off

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My troubles started with a bunch of aqara motion sensors which i couldn't pair. Suspecting radio issues, apart fom Aqara being Aqara, i moved the Lidl coordinator from right next to the wifi router to a quieter place on the 1st floor

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I re-paired devices fanning out, but to no avail

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So i got the skyconnect, placed it close to the server running HA, which is in the rack the router is sitting on, but ran the usb extension wire through a drywall for some isolation

mellow geode
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What 2.4 GHz channel is your WiFi AP running on?

inland agate
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And that's when the WAF started decreasing heavily, as changing a diaper with no way to turn on one of only 3 lights with no physical switch almost got me divorced

mellow geode
inland agate
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Zigbee was on default. The neighbor is using wifi channel 11, so i'd rather stick to 1

mellow geode
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Maybe just for testing if the issue "fixes itself" then? 😄

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Also, you could try changing the orientation of the SkyConnect, but it didn't matter that much for me

inland agate
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I double-sided-taped it to a wooden shelf to keep it out of sight, but i can try moving it

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Although i switched back to the Lidl hub today

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I will also try channel 11 for wifi

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Tbh, it's not that trafficked, as mostly IoT stuff uses the 2.4GHz band

mellow geode
inland agate
#

Any good reason to try and update the EZSP firmware?

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On the old hub, i mean

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I think i've read a bunch of comments on Github from @quick cliffestb saying that updating EZSP is not that crucial if you have 6.7.8.0 installed

mellow geode
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Should be fine, but it's an older version now. For other devices, EZSP 6.10.3 was used quite a bit. SkyConnect is now on 7.1.x / 7.2.x

inland agate
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Thanks. I'll see where I can find some instructions to update

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Thank you for your time! I really appreciate your help

fast bay
#

Hey all. At some point recently a number automations within HA stopped working, all of which linked to Zigbee2mqtt devices in some way. Looking at the Devices list they (motion sensors and buttons of various makes) are all listed, but having now opened up the 'Map' tab they all appear with green circles around them, but with no links to any other devices. Floating orphaned icons.

I can't help but think it's linked. Any clue how to debug or hints as to why they have no connections?

(Sorry for the question, new dad, tired and trying to fix as soon as possible for the family!) thx

grizzled kettle
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Are the entities all still connected and updating?

fast bay
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I see them as entities in the HA screens yes

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Updating, would that be on an action or software wise?

grizzled kettle
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Ok lets be specific, and focus one thing that is not working, and go from there. What specific is not working?

E.g. If you have a motion sensor triggered activation that is not working, is the entity for your motion sensor still reporting motion?

fast bay
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Got you. So next to me I have an Ikea 5 button remote. It's hooked to z2mqtt with a HA automation built from a blueprint found in the community forum pages.

The blueprint allows the 5 buttons to be triggered in various ways, but simply the main big button should toggle two lights on and off. This is something that now isn't working

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The two lights are also on the Zigbee network. Management of the lights directly is ok (e.g dashboard screens)

grizzled kettle
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Yes I have that same remote. So it should create a sensor called sensor.<name>_action. If you push a button, does that sensor change? (Check the logbook).

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it should flicker briefly from None-> (some action name) -> None

fast bay
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Let me check

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So click and no records on the logbook when filtered on the _action entity

grizzled kettle
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how about go to the z2m console and look at the logs. when I press mine, I see this:

 2023-03-03 15:49:24MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/Ikea Round Remote/action', payload 'toggle'
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does z2m see anything when you push it?

fast bay
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Ok, yeah that does return a list of events on click

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Something lost between Z2m and HA maybe?

grizzled kettle
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perhaps, I don't really know

#

you're running Mosquitto in HA?

fast bay
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I am, well I think so. It's not running in it's own docker etc. A while since I set it up initially. It's been pretty solid for a long while

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I'll give it a restart as a whole and see what happens. I did it when I first saw the problem, but didn't have time to look into it. A hit and hope

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I think maybe restart again and check logs post boot up, see if I can spot something

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Thanks for pointing towards the logs though, I was going straight to the map and a potential rabbit hole

grizzled kettle
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Yeah I'm not really sure what's going on. Maybe check if you have duplicate devices under MQTT integration or something.

fast bay
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Ah, interesting angle. Will do. I know that devices often lock into the node they first registered with. Have you found this, I wonder if something like a smartplug or bulb has been moved and cast devices far from the original connection source?

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Hoping they just find the closest node on the network and route that way instead...?

grizzled kettle
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Well if Z2M is seeing the events on button press, I assume the basic zigbee networking is working fine.

fast bay
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Very true

acoustic berry
#

I have a question was thinking of ordering one of the skyconnects but haven’t used zigbee yet. How do I know if my stuff will work with it or not? Also was looking at getting some Aqara accessories can this be the hub rather then needing to get the aqara hub

mellow geode
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It depends on what integration you're using with SkyConnect. You likely want to go with ZHA (Home Assistant's Zigbee integration), as Zigbee2MQTT still only has experimental support for SkyConnect (EZSP-based adapter).

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Most Aqara devices that you buy should just work with SkyConnect now. Do you have any specific devices you plan on buying?

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Here's a list of some devices: https://zigbee.blakadder.com/index.html
If it's "confirmed working with ZHA", it should be supported. If it doesn't mention it, it can still be supported though (it depends on how well the device implemented its features).

acoustic berry
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Had just thought to save on the hub and get this instead I’ll look at a list of devices for zha when I get home then thank you

inland agate
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I can confirm that the Aqara water sensors and switches work with skyconnect and ZHA if it helps

dull bramble
acoustic berry
ashen bluff
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Hub/bridge = coordinator

acoustic berry
# ashen bluff Hub/bridge = coordinator

So that would mean my bulbs that are just wifi no hub required wouldnt be able to be switched to free up stuff on the network? Sorry just wanna@make sure I understand

ashen bluff
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You can't just convert WiFi bulbs to speak ZigBee if that's what you mean

acoustic berry
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Ok ya that’s what I meant, not just anything will be readable with it

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Thank you

hybrid laurel
#

anyone able to help adding Aqara h1 no neutral with 3rocker to z2m?

lime locust
#

zigbee2mqtt bug or feature ? adding all light bulbs with a do_not_disturb switch in HA ?

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as far as i know lightbulbs dont make noise...

violet wave
#

@tropic depot I've fixed the unit tests on both PR, however there is some code coverage failure for one of them I don't know how to fix. IMHO it's not a big deal but I'd like to know your opinion

mighty river
#

What zigbee dongle do you guys recommend best?

restive cave
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https://pastebin.com/MSJKwBYq If anyone has the gen2 symfonisk remote this works for me so you may copy it, submit to z2m and take all the credit! 🙂

mellow geode
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like, set the number entity and see if the proper attributes are written

noble arch
#

Hi all 🙂 I hope everyone is doing well 😄
I have a quick question, one that I've been looking to solve for a while now, and didn't find a solution for yet.
Let me shortly explain what is happening:
I'm having 8 GU10 Tradfri WW - CW in my kitchen (Zigbee of course), connected via a Conbee II via ZHA, and I'm turning them on with a script (Using the Mushroom Light card to call the script). Now I also have the possibility to toggle them (so no script calling here) from a "main button" (custom button from hacs), to turn them just on or off. This is important for the issue at hand.

I've run in to the issue, that when I turn them one (calling the script), they sometime just don't go to 100% brightness, and when I press the same button again, the message gets send and they are then behaving as intended according to the script. However, I've also seen the same behaviour when I simply toggle them. I first though it's an firmware issue, so updated that, didn't solve it. Then I checked and I've seen that OOTB they have startup behaviour, so I checked my other IKEA lights, and they have the same options, but do not show that behaviour, so I started playing around with that, lowering their delay to full brightness, turning just that behaviour OOTB completely off, etc, still no solution.

Then I've checked the connections off all the lights to the Conbee II stick, but those where all green, however, I did re-pair all off them, first in a group, then lamp by lamp, directly via the stick and also via routers, still that behaviour exists. It even has that behaviour directly via the IKEA bridge.

I'm running out of ideas as of now, so any thoughts, help or even sharing of the same "pain and issues" is welcome 😄

Sorry for the lengthy post, but I want to be clear on the steps taken so far 🙂

EDIT: The scripts are in place as I'm also having Nabu Casa, and I call them via our Alexa's 🙂

finite igloo
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Created two scenes so far - one with bulb turned on red and one with bulb turned on blue. Then created automations one of which activates the red bulb scene when the front door lock is unlocked; another automation calls the blue bulb scene when the back door opens. Have additional automations that turn the bulb off when the front door locks and when the back door is closed. Using Sengled bulb. Not working consistently so far. Think I may need one or two Zigbee repeaters. Anybody have any Zigbee repeater recommendations?

noble arch
# finite igloo Created two scenes so far - one with bulb turned on red and one with bulb turned...

Depending on the budget, you could look at this: https://www.ikea.com/at/de/p/tradfri-signalverstaerker-10400408/ (I'm in Austria, so sorry, German link), or basically any mains power device you can think off (GU10 spot, another E14 Bulb, Zigbee LED stripe, etc)

EDIT: I personally have my zigbee network build out with mains in every floor, and preferably every room, so being it a socket or a lamp, at least something to have a routing connection ;-), just keep in mind that battery powered devices are not routers, and therefore will not help with your coverage 😉

tiny timber
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Does the FP1 work in ZHA? Can't seem to get it to become unoccupied. Initial occupancy triggers, but never seems to clear.

paper gale
noble arch
# tiny timber Does the FP1 work in ZHA? Can't seem to get it to become unoccupied. Initial occ...

Don't have the device, but this is what I found with a quick google search:

ZHA
The Aqara FP1 Human Presence Sensor does NOT work on ZigBee channels 21-24, so you may have to change the channel to successfully pair this device. Unfortunately, this means repairing all your existing devices. To pair the FP1 to your coordinator, press and hold the button under the magnetic base for ~5 seconds until the blue LED starts blinking. The device enters pairing mode and will join your network. If you are having issues, try short-pressing the button while it’s being added.

Link to the page: https://smarthomescene.com/reviews/aqara-human-presence-sensor-fp1-review/

carmine hamlet
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Those channels shouldn't be used anyway, as they overlap WiFi channel 11 and many devices don't support them

tiny timber
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I'm not using those channels. To be clear, everything works - it just never changes state back to unoccupied.

mellow geode
tiny timber
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Conbee II on December fw (I think).

mellow geode
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hmm, firmware 0x26720700 or newer should be fine

steel bay
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A couple of weeks ago I installed Sky Connect and moved my 16-device zigbee network to it. Everything works fine, but it appars debug logging is on by default? I don't set any debug levels in my logs, but I see:

2023-03-04 15:40:40.271 DEBUG (MainThread) [bellows.zigbee.application] ...
2023-03-04 15:40:40.273 DEBUG (MainThread) [bellows.ezsp.protocol] ....
2023-03-04 15:40:40.274 DEBUG (bellows.thread_0) [bellows.uart] ...
2023-03-04 15:40:40.291 DEBUG (bellows.thread_0) [bellows.uart] ..

Is this expected?

austere patio
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tiny timber
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Anyone got any tips on removing false positive detections with the FP1? The one in the bedroom seems pretty fine, but the lounge room one pretty much never clears occupancy unless it's facing directly at the floor.

mellow geode
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Is there anything in the room that moves? (fan or whatever?)

tiny timber
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No. Even sitting it facing a cupboard doesn't clear it. I was reading somewhere that if the "leaving" event doesn't trigger, it never updates the state?

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Have temporarily fixed it with an automation to clear presence every minute. It detects totally fine, just clearing state is flakey.

violet wave
mellow geode
violet wave
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ok I think I understand the zha tests now, shouldn't be too hard

mighty river
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My Zigbee Addon is no longer connecting to my Sonoff / Tasmota Coordinator - the addon fails to start.
Seemed to be working only a few days ago - since had some network reshuffle (new ISP).
I can get to the front end of the Sonoff Coordinator and it can see the zigbee devices in the house.
Ive tried restarting the addon and the log just shows ....
[08:48:18] INFO: Starting Zigbee2MQTT... Zigbee2MQTT:info 2023-03-05 08:48:19: Logging to console and directory: '/config/zigbee2mqtt/log/2023-03-05.08-48-19' filename: log.txt Zigbee2MQTT:info 2023-03-05 08:48:19: Starting Zigbee2MQTT version 1.30.2 (commit #unknown) Zigbee2MQTT:info 2023-03-05 08:48:19: Starting zigbee-herdsman (0.14.96) Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-03-05 08:48:40: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-03-05 08:48:40: Failed to start zigbee

Where might I go next to solve this?

thorn cobalt
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I want to change adapter and start new is it possible to remove / factory reset a device through zigbee2mqtt or do i always have to factory reset the device manual?

sour shadow
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You can remove through Z2M - if it's a end device you'll need to wake the device for it to work

thorn cobalt
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So moving from one z2m instance to another is just as simple as removing devices from conbee (old z2m channel 11) to sonoff ( new z2m instance channel 15 )

sour shadow
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Well, mostly

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You'll obviously have to put the new install in pairing mode

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Some devices will automatically go into pairing mode when you remove them but most won't so you'll need to put them into pairing mode

thorn cobalt
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I was afraid of that 😀

random lily
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Hi. I'm using a Sonoff-Stick as Zigbee-Gateway in Home-Assistant.
Aqara humidity sensors are not detected - known issue?

sour shadow
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You're using ZHA?

random lily
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yeah

sour shadow
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Then ZHA supports those just fine

random lily
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maybe I need to upgrade the firmware of the stick....
Is it possible, to upgrade fw in hass?

sour shadow
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Not in HA itself, no

random lily
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do you have this sonoff?

sour shadow
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Sonoff have released at least 6 different sticks

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Two different ones called the Plus

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Three different Zigbee 3 sticks

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(maybe four)

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We really need to know exactly which one you have

random lily
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usb-ITead_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_f8e612ac9529ec1

sour shadow
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Which Plus

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P or E

random lily
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how can I check?

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diagonistics in hass?

sour shadow
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Possibly

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Certainly the box it came in

random lily
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"name": "Texas Instruments CC1352/CC2652, Z-Stack 3.30+ (build 20210708)",

sour shadow
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The P then

random lily
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I've red, that TI = P, right?

random lily
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Is it required to re-learn every zigbee-device after flashing?

sour shadow
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No

random lily
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cool

sour shadow
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You do have Zigbee router devices? You're not relying on everything directly connecting to the coordinator?

random lily
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no router

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just bulbs and some devices mostly motions sensors

sour shadow
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Well, some bulbs are routers, unless they're Sengled

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A lack of routers is going to cause you problems, lots of them

random lily
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Philips HUE

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aah - and some Plugs

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Plugs are also routers, I think

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if a problem, then just re-attach?

sour shadow
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Aqara's Zigbee 1.2 devices will try to connect through the first device that they hear from - you should use the option to pair through a chosen router - one near them

random lily
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okay...

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THAT'S IT!!

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got the sensor

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no FW-Upgrade required 😄

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thanks a lot