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gleaming jay
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If you can make them work

dark birch
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I had one that stopped working for me. did a firmware update on it and now it's up and running again.

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They fit quite well with knx, start dimming, stop dimming commands.

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should work with something that support transition times on dimming to, but that less supported in HA.

smoky tapir
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I was having issues with debounce, and getting it to work. I suspect a couple more hours and i would have had something working. But the use case (volume control for media player) ergonomics wasn't as nice as I was hoping. The round 5 button tradfri remote loses the "analog" feel for volume, but does include a couple extra buttons to control with, and feels nice in the hand.

vital bluff
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Is there a specific process for pairing Hue bulbs directly via ZHA (no hub)?

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Is it like Sengled, do you need the flip the bulb on and off ten times?

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Have read about needing to do a factor reset on bulbs but can't tell if that's just specifically for if you're pairing bulbs briefly paired to a Hue hub.

smoky tapir
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ikea bulbs are 6 times rapidly

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for pairing mode

molten linden
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the hue with BT you can add to hue app via BT and then factory reset to put into pairing mode. older ones you need a hub or a remote that can reset them.

smoky tapir
ocean cloak
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Anyone kinda disappointed with their Aqara FP1 sensor? I've heard such good things, but haven't been having great luck with it. Everyone was saying how good it was even when you're sleeping, but I've had it turn off on me working on my laptop on the couch or sleeping there

mellow geode
lilac wharf
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Orly

mellow geode
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I think only Bluetooth lights with somewhat up-to-date firmware. But it should even be mentioned in the Hue lamps changelog

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I might be really wrong about this but I think the "repeat three times" thing was just for older Zigbee stacks.
IIRC newer (Silabs) stacks have some kind of ACK-ing for broadcast requests too

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(Again, might be wrong though)

lilac wharf
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Interesting. Next time I do some zigbee sniffing I'll have to test it out

crude otter
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is there a way to flash the sonoff zigbee dongle plus from within macOS?

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or is it easier to use my Windows laptop?

crude otter
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ok, so i have the router firmware installed

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how do i get the stick into pairing mode?

bronze rivet
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It goes into pairing mode when it is powered on.

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I had problems with mine and it took me a few days to sort out. It wouldn't go into pairing mode. I didn't have a sniffer back then so I was debugging blind. After flashign the routing fw a ton of times and not pairing I decided to flash back to the coordinator firmware to make sure the stick still worked with zigpy, which it did, then flashed back to the router firmware and it worked perfectly the first time. No freaking clue what the deal was.

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I have since flashed two more sticks and didn't have a problem with them following the exact same process.

crude otter
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i cant get it into pairing mode

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ill try co-ord then router like you did

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ok, its working now...

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wtf

bronze rivet
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LOL. I know it isn't just us either. At the time someone told me they got it to work by just trying the flash a bunch of times. I honestly probably tried it 50 times before I tried reverting the fw. Maybe I needed 51 tries with mine šŸ˜›

gleaming jay
dark birch
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0x23080631 on the one i just updated, but have another that is still at 0x21024631

devout blade
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Has anyone used a frient smoke detector?

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specifically using the in-built siren functionality in ZHA?

wary cradle
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Still canā€™t get this stupid Ikea motion sensor into HA via ZHA

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I bought a sonoff dongle cause apparently the conbee sucked

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But I still have the same problem

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All the tutorials online lead me nowhere

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The damn device is not being found when searching

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Does anyone have any tangible advice to offer?

grim igloo
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Youā€™ve done the special dance before pairing right?

wary cradle
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Yep

grim igloo
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Sorry not using zha but someone can help

wary cradle
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I did the rain dance around it

grim igloo
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Whatā€™s the exact device?

wary cradle
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Itā€™s an Ikea Tradfri Motion Sensor

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(Zigbee)

grim igloo
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And thatā€™s confirmed working on zha? (I expect it would be)

wary cradle
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Iā€™m watching tutorials on it banging my head against the wall

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Yep it is

grim igloo
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Thereā€™s no list like Zigbee2mqtt has so you have to confirm stuff works by other means like videos or Reddit or here

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Do you have more than one of that same device unable to work? Was it previously paired with another stick?

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Have you factory reset it?

raven jewel
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There's the blakadder list.

wary cradle
molten linden
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pairing is really up to the device, when you permit joining, you are just opening up listening for new devices, it's up to the new devices to announce themselves and start the pairing.

wary cradle
wary cradle
bitter hazel
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There a good place to go for an overview of equivalent zigbee solutions for zwave things? I have hidden z-wave switches (so the light switch looks and works normally but it's really a smart switch), fan switches, external and internal plug outlet switches, a power strip, other odds and ends. Previously when I looked there weren't zigbee equivalents but now I'm starting to see a few. I kinda prefer 900MHz which isn't common but getting pretty frustrated at the Z-Wave standard making things difficult and was pondering a move.

grim igloo
grim igloo
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if so the answer is yes they call it binding here using "clusters"

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otherwise the idea is the same for both. create a strong mesh, put usb stick controller/coordinator on usb extender, buy buy buy

bitter hazel
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More like, is there a good vendor/website that has zigbee devices that are similar to Z-Wave counterparts? I recall last time I looked, I couldn't find hidden wall switches for example. For Z-Wave, Aeotec tends to have most of the things I use but I haven't yet found a similar vendor.

wary cradle
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What is that code website?

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I disabled ZHA and deleted it. I then tried disabling my Mqtt broker. Still no luck.

smoky tapir
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you need to find other logs to diagnose that

misty oasis
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just wanted to say that today i tried ikea gateway with ikea shortcut button and it does NOT work better then in Z2M or ZHA so really meh, anywhere

smoky tapir
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I was happy to validate that my tradfri 5 button remote got a firmware update with ZHA

mellow geode
gaunt flume
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Does anybody have a recommendation on good zigbee smart bulbs that work well with a wide variety of devices?
I know that hue works well but ~25ā‚¬ a bulb is a bit pricey.
I have have tried this one (https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/4058075208414.html#ledvance-4058075208414) but end devices that connect to it stop working after a while so also not a great one.
I have seen a couple of reviews but those never mention anything about the fact that some devices might not works with others or that they might not work well as routers but I have had a very different experience.

tired radish
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you can try the ones from ikea

gaunt flume
tired radish
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well i use them

gaunt flume
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no problems?

tired radish
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not really

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i use them with a sonoff zigbee dongle

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plus 2 ikea remotes

gaunt flume
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how long do they typically last?

tired radish
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the oldest ones, 2 years

gaunt flume
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so non of them died on you yet

tired radish
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nope

gaunt flume
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alright guess tomorrow I will go to ikea xD

tired radish
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xD

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well i can't explain how i got the remotes working, but they work.

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oh, it's a template you can download, and then you need to create an automatation (or what it's called)

gaunt flume
tired radish
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i use the ikea remotes.

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on/off and dimming

gaunt flume
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?

tired radish
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yes, I have these

gaunt flume
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I dont really like to look of that myself

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like the look of traditional smart switches - I am on a quest to have a smart home where nobody would know that its a smart home just by looking

twin gazelle
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is there an easy way to see a list of what the co-ordinator is paired directly with in Z2M? I may have hit the limit and so some devices are being de-paired and due to weird stuff (probably faulty firmware) i cant get them paired to other stuff easily

grim igloo
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the new inovelli blue look good they're just expensive

tired radish
mellow geode
gaunt flume
tired radish
mellow geode
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IKEA? That's why I mentioned they work for most people. I also have some lights (needed to put them on a separate Zigbee network due to multiple issues though)

gaunt flume
mellow geode
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And compared to Hues, the dimming isn't as nice. They still have a bug where you can't send commands during a transition, they use a really outdated Silabs/Gecko SDK and some other stuff

tired radish
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well as time goes by. i will need to seperate IoT from normal network

mellow geode
gaunt flume
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ohh

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oof

tired radish
gaunt flume
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Ɩsterreicher

tired radish
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passt

raven jewel
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Aber hier reden wir nur Englisch, danke šŸ˜‰

quick hare
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Is it me or Philips updated itā€™s light to completely ignore Touchlink? I used to be able to reset them using a Philips Hue remote but i canā€™t anymore. Using Zigbee2MQTT it also wonā€™t detect Philips hue products Touchlink, only IKEA ones. Now iā€™m wondering how I can reset the Philips hue products.

tired radish
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as far as i know, for ikea, you need to switch the light on 5 times to set them in pairing mode

mellow geode
clever geyser
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Hi, did any of you encountered a problem when all of devices of some kind (osram light bulb in my case) left the network? For me it is not the first time. I have to reset them and reconnect. No other devices affected, just exactly one model.

quick hare
mellow geode
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not sure what you mean with "makes my coordinator crash" (like when doing what exactly?
by default, if you remove a light from HA/ZHA, it'll factory-reset the light and most of the time, put it back into pairing mode

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(when the light is powered on only of course)

quick hare
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So I have quite an amount of Zigbee devices on my network and everything went super smoothly for a while. I have mostly LTA003 Philips Hue. Recently I had to purchase another one but came to realise that Signify does not make LTA003 anymore they changed the model to LTA010. Unfortunately, everytime I add one of this model to the network, they spam like crazy and make the coordinator crash : NCP entered failed state. Requesting APP controller restart.If I powercycle them, they also make the coordinator crash and from time to time, they just decide to do it without me touching it). Hereā€™s what ZHA see when it happens (the same message but a hundred times): 2022-11-08 15:58:00.728 DEBUG (MainThread) [bellows.ezsp.protocol] Application frame 196 (changeSourceRouteHandler) received: b'0d0000'
2022-11-08 15:58:00.729 DEBUG (MainThread) [bellows.zigbee.application] Received changeSourceRouteHandler frame with [0x000d, 0x0000, <Bool.false: 0>]

lofty hamlet
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aqara zigbee contact sensors

Do they tend to stick to the controller? I have multiple routers which would give a better path, but doesn't seem like I can get the contact sensors to route to them

mellow geode
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Removing the light from ZHA (while it's on and "working") should also reset it

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You should also be able to use a Bluetooth connection (through the normal Hue app -> Bluetooth)

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Power-cycle the light and it should connect via Bluetooth. If it doesn't, maybe try unplugging your coordinator temporarily that apparently crashes because of that light

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Also, what coordinator are you running? (And what SDK version (sth. like "6.10.3")?)

copper fulcrum
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Can you use ZigBee light groups and also control individual lights?

I've been running z2mqtt for 2 years and have always just used individual zigbee lights with HA light-groups
(because I used to only use the default dashboard and it wouldn't give me groups + individual light control when I tried ZigBee groups)

I'm thinking using ZigBee light groups might make my scene changes more snappy since my HA instance is underpowered

quick hare
# mellow geode well, that shouldn't happen at all. Like mentioned, you can also try power-cycli...

I will get you all that tomorrow morning because when I will put power to that lightbulb, I will get the total light show in the apartment since the sun is down and I rely solely on the Hueā€™s. Thatā€™s another thing that I find so strange : when the coordinator goes down for this issue, all the lights flash in sync different patterns. I donā€™t know why. Itā€™s nothing less than terrifying when it happens. For the coordinator, I use a generic EFR32MG21 from Aliexpress that I flashed : https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003578599189.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.46f01802MxU13p The SDK if iā€™m not mistaken is : "version": "6.7.9.0 build 405","stack_version": 8,

grim igloo
quick hare
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Unfortunately Iā€™ve spent the whole day trying to reset the light thru the app via Bluetooth or do it with Zigbee2MQTT (Touchlink) or the remote but it wonā€™t reply to any even after putting power to it (and thatā€™s for both LTA010) I don0t have that problem with LTA003.

copper fulcrum
grim igloo
mellow geode
grim igloo
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Just create a zigbee group in z2m like 3 bulbs in a chandelier then z2m will expose that group as an entity to hass which you can use in automations or whatever

copper fulcrum
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Ah I see the groups tab now

quick hare
# mellow geode the "light show" might be the identify effect when devices re-join the network. ...

I wish it was that because I deactivated it as soon as it happened the first time. Iā€™ll get you a video of it, its impressive and so different than the identification pattern, somewhat scary. It also only does it to lights that weā€™re already ON only. Iā€™ll do a nice report of all that you asked. Perhaps do you want me to put it on a GitHub issue to make it easier to follow? šŸ™‚

grim igloo
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I do it in ui but yea that would work too

mellow geode
quick hare
gleaming jay
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@molten linden what is the best method of payment for you?

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Or is it just anything except PayPal

grim igloo
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google play giftcards?

molten linden
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anything but paypal. (paypal last resort)

gleaming jay
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Dogecoin

molten linden
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paypal fees are more, paypal doesn't refund fees on refund either. only take it as some folks have issues with the Square payment processing.

gleaming jay
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alright man, ordered. Hope you know I'm counting on all my zigbee issues to go away once I've got your device

molten linden
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that's not the zigbee spirit!

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(thank you)

gleaming jay
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hah

copper fulcrum
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Odd... Kind of pulling my hair out
I created new ZigBee groups within z2m

They're not showing up as entities in HA

They have unique names
I've restarted HA
Checked the mqtt config
Checked discovery is configured in HA and z2m

I just added 3 bulbs the other day and they showed up in HA instantly with no restart

These groups don't seem to be doing that

Any ideas?

grim igloo
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Are you sure youā€™re looking for entities and not devices? They just add a new entity

copper fulcrum
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Yep, I don't see any new lights in my entities list or anything with the group names (all prefixed with z_ just to make it easier to search for while testing)

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I just listened to the messages from homeassistant/# using the MQTT integration configurator

Don't see the groups in the output
But I do see all of my lights

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cool, publishing
zigbee2mqtt/z_corner/set
{"state": "on"}
does work

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so they're working
Just HA isn't discovering them...

grim igloo
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you've done the good ole fashioned restart / reboot right?

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and updated to latest stable on z2m and hass?

copper fulcrum
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I see, the repo I installed z2m from 2 years ago is deprecated

I need to move to the new repo which involves disabling my current integration and moving my settings and files over...

Auto-group discovery was added in 1.20
I'm on 1.18

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This is because z2m is an official addon now, but it wasn't when I installed it

grim igloo
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Rip lol

copper fulcrum
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As a workaround, I got the groups added by adding them to lights.yaml manually using platform: mqtt

I got the supported settings by converting the discovery JSON of one of my rgbcct downlights and converting it to yaml

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Migrating to the new version and repo will be for another day

For now, this is a direct swap of my light groups for ZigBee groups, and it's working great!

Thanks for the pointer @grim igloo !

shy gate
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gm guys,

I'm currently getting my hardware all set for future integrations. Recently I switched to HA to unify all my Smart home Systems in use (Hue, Tuya, Switchbot)

Since I want to eliminate the Hue Gateway I am at the brink of getting a USB Gateway. Currently I'm looking at either the Conbee II or the Sonoff.

Any recommendations?

sour shadow
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Not the ConBee

rapid dawnBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

cursive crescent
shy gate
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@sour shadow Thanks for the Link, I'll dig into it.

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@cursive crescent Ok good to know. I'll check the Docs and then pull the trigger. Thank you guys.

cursive crescent
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Just FYI, if it's the sonoff with the E model, that's not the one I used. I used the P model. The entry on Amazon may not mention the model. I'm not at a PC to deep dive atm.

sour shadow
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The E is fine for ZHA, but not fine for Zigbee2MQTT, so pick your poison software first

cursive crescent
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^

smoky tapir
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FYI, The Sonoff website has direct amazon links to the P and E versions to make life easier

shy gate
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@cursive crescent @sour shadow went for the P model. Seems to be most common for Zigbee2MQTT

plush vale
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Good morning, I hope I am asking in the correct place. Does anyone know of a clean looking ZigBee keypad/scene controller that is wired and fits in a standard US decora wall plate? I have tried searching but can only find battery operated or z-wave. (I did find one but it didn't pass the wife test)

vital bluff
vital bluff
vital bluff
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Also would not need to be wired.

plush vale
vital bluff
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Totally get that but if it makes a difference, the Pico batteries are supposed to last like ten years.

plush vale
vital bluff
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I ultimately wound up just using the Caseta functionality with the remote but I did try out the blueprint with the four button Pico.

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It was responsive and seemed to support mapping basically any HA function to the four buttons.

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Also believe the blueprint support longpresses, so you could get 8 functions out of a four button Pico.

plush vale
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Do you have caseta switches?

vital bluff
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I do, installed a bunch recently.

plush vale
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Right so if I was going to go with ZigBee switches.... Caseta scene would need to be blueprinted correct?

vital bluff
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Let me make sure I understand. So your goal would be to map the scenes showcased/displayed by Zigbee switches to the button of a Pico remote?

plush vale
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Thanks for allowing me to interrogate you lol

vital bluff
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That would work, I experimented with that for a bit.

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I had a bunch of Caseta switches with Zigbee smart bulbs and rather than use Caseta scenes, I used Zigbee/HA scenes.

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And those scenes were mapped to the Pico.

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So that was essentially circumventing Caseta.

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And basically just highjacking the remote.

plush vale
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So I am looking to install this in my home and my wife just likes things to work 100% of the time.... As with most houses I assume... I'm trying to be able to have the control and enjoyment of home assistant in the most stable environment possible

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I would like to use ha for all automation etc

vital bluff
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I can't think of any reason the implementation described above wouldn't be consistent . The big issue would be if HA went down, this scene controller would be completely non-functional.

plush vale
vital bluff
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Whereas if you were using it with Caseta, the controller would always work as long as the hub was on.

vital bluff
plush vale
plush vale
vital bluff
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Caseta seems to be the industry standard for consumer installed smart switches.

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They are considerably more expensive and, in my opinion, exponentially better and more reliable.

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Caseta just works, period.

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Even if all the smart stuff shits the bed, Caseta will always function as a traditional, physical, on off switch.

plush vale
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Thats solid information

vital bluff
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It is not reliant on anything 'smart' to work, so it will continue to function as a 'dumb' switch regardless of the state of your network, Zigbee mesh, etc.

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Some will argue the price difference is not justified. I think lighting and switches are one of the most fundamental components of a home.

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I don't want a situation where someone goes to flip a switch and nothing happens and then something needs troubleshooting.

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It's a light switch. It should, and should always, 'just work'.

plush vale
vital bluff
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I'm not shitting on Zigbee switches, there's a lot of cool stuff in the space.

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I've got an Aqara Zigbee switch installed and it is good.

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Build quality is exponentially worse but the product is solid.

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I guess the takeaway is my view is Caseta is the gold standard but a lot of people might consider it overkill.

plush vale
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Understood, and as far as ha integration, the caseta components work reliably and quickly?

vital bluff
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Seamless.

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It was the first thing I did in HA.

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Hub and integration showed up, all the switches were there and it just worked.

plush vale
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Amazing!

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Ok you gave me my answers

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Thanks for all your input

vital bluff
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Yeah man, let me know if you have other questions. I'm new to a lot of this stuff but happy to assist with the bit I've learned.

plush vale
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Oh yeah, if I'm doing a lot of switches caseta has a 75 devices limit per hub, but if I use multiple hubs ha should essentially be able to bridge it all together, correct?

vital bluff
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I do not know the specifics but I have read that you can add multiple Lutron hubs to HA to circumvent the 75 device limit.

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If you think you would go well over like 150 devices, I'd say you may want to consider Lutron's RA2 or RA3 products.

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Those are even more expensive devices but are more sophisticated and can utilize way more devices.

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I'm not familiar with Home Assistant's RA integration.

plush vale
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But I don't expect to be over 150

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Somewhere between 75 and 150

vital bluff
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Then yeah, go with Caseta.

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Two hubs is a little annoying but not anything terrible.

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More than that, I'd say you'd want to think options over.

plush vale
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To simplify things

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And I was going to go with the pro hubs

vital bluff
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Read up on the hubs. There's a Pro hub then I think there was a also an update to the base hub which makes it able to do most things.

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Don't quote me on it but I think there's less of a difference with the Pro and base hub than there was.

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I've got a non pro hub and that can do 75 devices and can do the shades and all that stuff.

plush vale
vital bluff
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I just mean having two hubs taking up two wall plugs and two ethernet ports on your router or switch.

plush vale
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Once again, thanks so much for all your help!

vital bluff
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Nothing huge, just an annoyance.

plush vale
vital bluff
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I haven't run two hubs myself but I feel like that's the only downside outside of your Caseta devices being segmented on two hubs.

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But with both hubs integrated to HA, there should be no downside.

plush vale
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My concern is stability and affordablilty

vital bluff
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So Caseta is a positive check on stability and a negative on affordability.

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Like I said, I don't think you can get more stable and reliable switches than Caseta but you can absolutely get cheaper.

plush vale
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Compared to ra2

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I understand it's considerably more expensive than generic z-wave ZigBee

vital bluff
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I have not read anything to indicate the RA line would be any more reliable than Caseta.

plush vale
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But for reliability and lutron backing it, its a justified expense perhaps

vital bluff
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I will say, their support is pretty incredible.

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Calling their number gets you a human being on the line in like two minutes.

plush vale
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šŸ‘

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Great I think I have my plan

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Now I gotta lay it out and order the parts šŸ™‚

vital bluff
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Keep in mind a lot of Caseta stuff is currently backordered.

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They came out with new switches and dimmers a few weeks ago that have been going quick.

rapid dawnBOT
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@wary cradle I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

šŸ“Ž message.txt
sour shadow
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The reason the bot moved your post is because it was over 15 lines - with all those blank lines. Please don't simply post it in parts to "get around" the rules @wary cradle

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Also, we can all click and expand on the bot message

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spawn udevadm ENOENT
Says that it can't find the coordinator

wary cradle
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So itā€™s unable to find my device?

sour shadow
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I'm not seeing a path, which suggests that the add-on isn't configured correctly

wary cradle
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Thatā€™s odd

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Itā€™s also odd it keeps being ā€œdiscoveredā€ thru ZHA

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Even though Iā€™ve disabled Zha

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The configuration is default @sour shadow , I havenā€™t touched that tab yet.

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Mqtt and serial lines are empty

sour shadow
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Found your problem at least

wary cradle
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How would I fix that though? In the tutorials I was following it didnā€™t mess with configuration

sour shadow
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The add-on does weird stuff, but if the configuration.yaml for Z2M doesn't have any config for the adapter or MQTT then Z2M won't work

wary cradle
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I am lost cause others use this device with these add ons

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@sour shadow do you have any suggestions?

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Or am I just screwed and canā€™t use any Zigbee devices anymore

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Or ever I should say

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(Cause I never got one into to system) its becoming extremely frustrating that for two weeks and two products I canā€™t add a simple Zigbee device

sour shadow
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Fill in those empty lines?

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At the very least the one for the adapter

lavish vault
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I use the aqara p1 motion sensor but am unable to change the sensitivity for motion. Does anyone else have the same issue?

sour shadow
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Are you waking it after you change the setting?

lavish vault
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Didnā€™t know I had. I thought I could just change it in homeassitant and it would push/update when it connects the next time

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Wake it as in pushing the button on the back?

sour shadow
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Yup, that's it

lavish vault
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Okay, will try. Thanks!

sour zenith
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I cant understand how to set TRADFRI ON/OFF switch button as a trigger in automation. Home assistant. Via Home Assistant entity

tropic depot
#

what integration

grim igloo
#

if you are migrating from zha to z2m do you have to flash firmware on the stick (like a sonoff) before it will work?

austere patio
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No, they all work with the same firmwares. I think Z2M may not support older EZSP firmwares, but the Sonoff stick should have something more recent.

grim igloo
#

it was an e dongle with improper config params cuz thought it was p

austere patio
#

Do the two differ externally in any way? Or are they identical?

sour zenith
#

haha sorry, i use zigbee2mqtt šŸ˜›

grim igloo
molten linden
#

The Sonoff p/e have identical housings

grim igloo
#

i'm helping someone on discord and just assumed it was the P without looking at the device ID

austere patio
#

They need a sticker or something...

grim igloo
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/dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITEAD_SONOFF_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_V2_202208

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V2 = E series

mellow geode
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I can compare them quickly

austere patio
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No worries, I was just curious

molten linden
#

Well they šŸ‘€ the same lol

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Fun fact Olimex increased the size of the esp32-PoE by 6mm in their rev K version šŸ˜­

mellow geode
grim igloo
#

says where?

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etched in the metal or on the board?

mellow geode
#

on the back of the metal housing

grim igloo
#

i see

mellow geode
#

the boards should also visually differ a bit. The P still has the physical (flow control) hardware switch (which I'm pretty sure the E doesn't have)

molten linden
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Yea no switch. It has a bare pad too for alternate serial chip too

grim igloo
molten linden
#

I had about 25 cases printed for the older version. went to start packing orders at like 11 last night and they didn't fit.

grim igloo
#

shit lol

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good excuse to get more printers to print cases faster?

smoky tapir
molten linden
grim igloo
#

damn

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$$

#

voron are really neat i just cant justify the build cost or the time and energy to actually build them

austere patio
mellow geode
molten linden
#

gee wonder how to prevent this confusion?

austere patio
#

You're the only one selling coordinators that can't be plugged in without a microUSB cable/Ethernet

mellow geode
molten linden
#

not sure I'm the "only one" but if it looks like it should be plugged in directly I'm not sure that's the best approach

grim igloo
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ya but dont like half the active users here end up here because they followed some bad guide or manufacturers docs?

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maybe it's a good thing.. for us? lmao

smoky tapir
#

2.4ghz and usb2 ports work fine last I remember

sour zenith
#

Can someone help me how to add a ikea onoff switch as trigger in automation? ( zigbee2mqtt )

smoky tapir
#

did you install a blueprint for it?

sour zenith
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Yes that works, but i need to add one button as trigger fron another automation.

smoky tapir
#

i assume you've paired it, and can see button presses in the logbook for it?

sour zenith
#

for*

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yeah

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i can

smoky tapir
#

then you need a blueprint, and automation is easy

sour zenith
#

so not possible without blueprint ??

sour shadow
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There's no need for a blueprint

smoky tapir
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not sure, it took me about 5 minutes to pair a tradfri remote to ZHA add a blueprint and make it play music when i pressed a button

sour shadow
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Blueprints are just automations other people wrote for you

sour zenith
#

Same here panzer, i dont want to use a blueprint..

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yeah

sour shadow
#

If you have an entity, you can write an #automations-archived - and that's the channel for getting help with writing them

sour zenith
#

okii šŸ™‚

rapid flume
#

can't help but notice that most Zigbee smoke detectors aren't sold in the USA... is there some fire code wrinkle that makes them a bit harder to use legally here?

quick hare
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@mellow geode hereā€™s a post I created in the forum with the information you asked! šŸ™‚ I also did more tests to confirm things. I can get the coordinator to crash when I add an IKEA bulb as well so it does not seem to be linked to the new Philips bulb after all. Strangely, if I get an old device offline and put it back online, it does not crash. But if I do the same for any new device, it crash : https://community.home-assistant.io/t/coordinator-crash-when-adding-a-device/486798

upper delta
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How does one see the state changes for devices using Z2M? I'm using motion sensors that don't seem to be working using the attribute I would have assumed

raven jewel
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You can see it in Z2M on the device page

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If it doesn't correctly report the state I'd guess that it's not properly paired

sour shadow
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Motion sensors typically use the entity state for reporting motion/no motion

gleaming jay
#

I wish blueprints were just wizards that spawned a traditional automation

rapid flume
rapid flume
#

yeah, I literally can't find anything with both a Zigbee radio and a 120V input

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I could do the auxiliary relay thing with modified door sensors, but what I really care about is battery levels

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on the other other other hand, do I really care? Hmm.

sour shadow
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Many "smart" smoke detectors are really bad smoke detectors

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The UK consumer advice group Which did a review of many of them a year or two back and found that other than Nest all the smart alarms they tested failed to work as expected

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(which to be fair is a common issue across many smoke detectors, not just the smart ones)

raven jewel
#

I got a fairly dumb "smart" smoke detector which just happens to send the battery level and if it's alarming over Zigbee

long girder
#

I had mine on top of an entertainment center about 4 meters away facing the couches in my living room head on.
It kept turning off on me when I was lazily scrolling on my phone, so I tried to put it side on in a windowsill literally an armā€™s length away

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When it works, it works well, but in my experience itā€™s definitely not ā€œcan detect your chest rise and fallingā€ level like some people have said (and I do have it on ā€œhighā€ sensitivity and ā€œfarā€ range)

ocean cloak
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It seems particularly bad if there's like something in the way of the movement. So like typing behind a laptop with the screen blocking line of sight. Or like if you're sleeping and breathing it's not going to be detected because the blanket won't really move with your chest

grim igloo
#

im curious if this is a zha or z2m only thing with fp1 sensors?

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i thought everyone loved them

tropic depot
ocean cloak
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I haven't tried it in my bedroom yet, but falling asleep on the couch caused it to deactivate

smoky tapir
#

yeah, was looking at trying the fp1's, but this chat makes me just want to order some more hue sensors šŸ™‚

ocean cloak
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I'd still give one a shot

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I might try one of the DIY ones next

smoky tapir
#

I've got hue motion sensors in every room, and really only have an issue in the office, may be a placement issue

ocean cloak
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Motion sensors are much different than mmwave though

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I have 3 hue motion sensors as well and they're great for their purpose though

smoky tapir
#

I'm using them to link lights everywhere, i can track "in/out" of hosue with phone wifi connections

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(but not in/out of rooms)

grim igloo
ocean cloak
#

I dunno there was at least one thread on the forums about an ESP based one I think

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I kinda figured the aqara one would be better though cuz I think it's like ~60ghz and those DIY ones were ~20Ghz

livid harbor
#

And then there is this aswell

sour shadow
novel cove
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Hey, I have a dumb question. I have a quite big zigbee network, with more than 60 devices, running with zigbee2mqtt. 27 of them are lightbulbs (Philips hue and Ikea tradfri) that are not always on. Problem, some devices such as xiaomi motion are connected to them but have a known issue, if their router is offline, most part of the time, they don't reconnect to the network using another router. To prevent this issue, everytime I add a device, I turn off all the lights, add the device and turn on the lights after that. But sometimes, they switch their router to a bulb. My question is, is there a way to turn off the router feature of the lightbulb?

sour shadow
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No

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The only solution, other than not turning off the smart bulbs, is to buy ones that aren't routers - like Sengled

mellow geode
#

Yeah, you really shouldn't turn off routers ever. That's not how Zigbee was designed

#

Any reason why you turn those lights off by cutting mains (instead of sending a command to HA)?

fallow warren
#

Anyone have recommendation for something I could use to check if my dog is home or not? I want to add a check for the robot vacuum that normally starts after Im away for >15 mins but do not want it to start if my dog still is there. A pressure mat on the crate would be easiest, door magnets would not mount well onto the crate unfortunately

sour shadow
#

BLE tag on the collar?

fallow warren
#

Thank you will check out that, I did some resaerch for others but only found big clunky solution so maybe BLE is more useful šŸ‘ checking

sour shadow
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I use one for detecting if the car is in the garage or not, one would work fine on a dog, assuming it's robust enough for your dog

novel cove
# mellow geode Yeah, you really shouldn't turn off routers *ever*. That's not how Zigbee was de...

Yes, I have other routers (shutter modules, plugs etc), I don't want to turn off these routers, just those not relevant to me. These lights are turned off using the wall switch (which is not connected yet), we don't use HA to turn on/off lights manually (and I wont use my phone just for that, a switch is way easier). All my bulbs are connected (for specific case, to automatically adjust the brightness during the day, and because I had to replace all of them so I decided to add HUE and tradfri), and most of them are groups on the same ceiling. Even if the power consumption is very low per bulb, it's way more efficient to have 5 connected switch modules than 27 bulbs (which are never turned on/off individually)...

sour shadow
#

Don't connect smart bulbs to dumb switches

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You either make the bulbs smart, and ensure you don't cut power to them, or make the switch smart and leave the bulbs dumb

novel cove
# sour shadow Don't connect smart bulbs to dumb switches

Yeah, that's the best practice I know. As I said, the aim was to control the brightness and the temperature, not to turn on and off. The only problem I have is with the zigbee network. I'm sure I'm not the only one with smart bulb, dumb switch, and power off. So, this why I'm asking if there a way to prevent some devices to be a router, when that kind of issue raises. Thanks for the answer, that's a no, the only solution is to add smart switch and ensure lights are never powered off (or change the bulbs but solution 1 is way cheaper).

mellow geode
#

(Yeah, another option is to just have switches/remotes that control the smart lights)

novel cove
mellow geode
#

You'll need to make sure that the smart switch you're buying is able to send a command to HA (instead of cutting mains)

#

I just use Shellys in the walls for this, but there are also Zigbee smart switches that can do this in a "decoupled mode"

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Philips Hue also has the "Wall Switch" module. (Yes, it works with a battery but should last more than 5 years)

sour shadow
sour shadow
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Whether it's a good idea or not... that's personal

novel cove
novel cove
grim igloo
storm compass
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NOOB needs zigbee2mqtt assistance. Have a Sonoff zigbee 3 dongle which I flashed with the latest firmware, plugged into a RP4 with usb extension cable. Have msquitto broker setup and everything working fine until recently. Now am unable to get zigbee2mqtt running again. Have checked an rechecked, but unable to resolve issues.

sour shadow
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What's in the log file?

storm compass
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only a portion of the zigbee log file, doesn't show any errors that i can see. Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-11-10 09:44:46: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/B_BRM_Tmp', payload '{"battery":100,"humidity":53.36,"linkquality":3,"temperature":24.14,"voltage":3000}'
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-11-10 09:44:46: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/MBR_Tmp', payload '{"battery":100,"humidity":57.72,"linkquality":83,"temperature":23.44,"voltage":3000}'
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-11-10 09:44:47: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/FamRm_tmp', payload '{"battery":100,"humidity":54.18,"linkquality":21,"temperature":23.98,"voltage":3100}'
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-11-10 09:44:47: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/Kit_Tmp', payload '{"battery":100,"humidity":56.5,"linkquality":116,"temperature":23.38,"voltage":3000}'
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-11-10 09:46:02: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/BSM_Mot', payload '{"battery":100,"detection_interval":30,"device_temperature":22,"illuminance":44,"linkquality":47,"motion_sensitivity":"medium","occupancy":false,"power_outage_count":0,"trigger_indicator":false,"update":{"state":null},"update_available":null,"voltage":3026}'
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-11-10 09:47:26: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/MBR_Tmp', payload '{"battery":100,"humidity":57.72,"linkquality":65,"temperature":24.89,"voltage":3000}

sour shadow
#

Well, that suggests it's alive and working

#

What makes you think it isn't running?

storm compass
#

unbale to open web UI, doesn't show up nor the restart gui

sour shadow
#

How are you running Zigbee2MQTT? Add-on, Docker, something else?

#

The frontend isn't enabled by default, and a common oversight is to not enable it

storm compass
#

mosquitto

sour shadow
#

Mosquitto is the MQTT broker, not how you're running Z2M

#

That's like asking what you want to eat, and naming the car you arrived in

storm compass
#

as noob not sure what you are asking

sour shadow
#

Which of those did you follow?

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Or, if you followed something else, what?

storm compass
#

HA addon

sour shadow
#

Check the add-on settings and see if you've enabled the frontend:

storm compass
#

sorry to be so dense, but don't understand how to get this going

sour shadow
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Open the add-on settings

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Make sure that you have the line

frontend:
``` in the Z2M `configuration.yaml`
storm compass
#

yes it's there as frontend:
port: 8099

sour shadow
#

Then it should be accessible on port 8099

#

I know that the add-on does odd stuff, but ... shrug

storm compass
#

any suggestion about how I might go from here?

sour shadow
#

I'd check the add-on settings to see that it's exposing port 8099

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Check the log file too for a line like

info  2022-10-25 06:47:50: Started frontend on port 0.0.0.0:8099
storm compass
#

yes log file shows that frontend was started on port 0.0.0.0:8099

sour shadow
#

Then Z2M is fine, and the add-on is the problem - check the settings for it

quick hare
#

@mellow geode I forgot to mention that I have those configurations for ZHA : ezsp_config:
CONFIG_SOURCE_ROUTE_TABLE_SIZE: 150
CONFIG_APS_ACK_TIMEOUT: 8000 Could that be an issue?

storm compass
#

thanks to all have some investigating to do

ocean cloak
#

And if so how do you like it in general or compared to an FP1 if you have one of those

sour shadow
#

I haven't, I have the FP1 and like it

#

If I can find a source of the Tuya that ships to the UK I'll be buying one

ocean cloak
sour shadow
#

Well, it seems (based on that review) to be a bit faster at detecting motion, plus it's a bit smaller, so it'd be good to try out for some locations

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I do like the FP1's stand though

ocean cloak
#

Thanks, didn't actually know about that feature

#

Yeah thought it was odd that it didn't have a stand

civic lynx
#

Hey guys!!! I have a few questions about zigbee integration. I have zigbee2mqtt installed and running but some of the sensors I have arent able to be picked up with mqtt, but are able to be added with the "native" zigbee when you go to add ons integrations and zeebee. My questions is, am I able to have both zigbee2mqtt and the "native" zigbee to add devices?

molten linden
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one integration per coordinator.

civic lynx
sour shadow
#

Aka, sure you can, but you need a second coordinator, and to build out both meshes

civic lynx
#

So whats the fix if this sensor doesnt work with mqtt

sour shadow
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Add support?

civic lynx
#

second coordinator would require a second device correct?

sour shadow
civic lynx
sour shadow
#

Good news, Zigbee2MQTT isn't anything to do with HA šŸ˜›

civic lynx
#

So sorry if im asking questions that are already anaswered

sour shadow
#

Everybody starts from nothing

civic lynx
#

I do understand its a completely different project that just integrates

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Oh so this is super interesting!!!

#

So I can use herdsman converters to communicate with the device just add it myself

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Very cool

sour shadow
#

Yes, this is one of the really neat things about Z2M - you can build your own converter and add it in the UI

civic lynx
#

So a converter is just a file that is able to communicate with the device in question?

sour shadow
#

Well, it's a file that tells Z2M how to talk to the device

#

Zigbee is a standard, but it's one that manufacturers often are pretty relaxed about following, so the converter "fixes" all the things that the device does "wrong"

civic lynx
sour shadow
#

No

#

Devices pick whether they're a router or end device (technical terms for repeaters and non-repeaters)

#

Sengled behave that way because people like turning off smart lights, and this avoids breaking your mesh

civic lynx
sour shadow
#

Yes, and yes

rapid dawnBOT
sour shadow
#

Generally speaking, any mains powered bulbs other than Sengled will router, as will any power plug and most three wire switches (that have their own life and neutral)

civic lynx
#

And when it says "mains" that just means a plugged in power

sour shadow
#

Yes

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Battery powered devices are always end devices

civic lynx
#

If I found a .js that works for my sensor "sylvania", where do I put that file

#

Z2M has it own config.yaml correct?

#

So thats where I would add the external converters line

sour shadow
#

You can add it through Z2M's own UI

#

Settings -> External Converters

civic lynx
#

Oh even better

civic lynx
sour shadow
#

I think you just add it there, but I've never done it

#

I only buy stuff that works already, I'm lazy

civic lynx
#

Lets see what happens

#

It bricked it

#

node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:959
throw err;
^
Error: Cannot find module '../lib/exposes'

sour shadow
#

Remove it, fix the problem, try again?

civic lynx
#

Name of the game lol

#

So how do I know if it works? I can add the device?

#

It was just a syntax error, its back and running with the converter file

sour shadow
#

You know it works if you add the device, it shows up as supported, and it works

civic lynx
#

I couldnt even get the device to show up

#

Its still not showing up but it did with deconz

#

So I know it can be added

sour shadow
#

It should pair regardless of support

civic lynx
#

Oh!! The only time I got it to be found and discovererd was with deconz or the devices - integrations - zigbee home automation

sage plume
#

werid, I got a Aqara door sensor thats fallen off the zigbee network, cant get it to re-connect and removing it wont allow me to readd it (just doesnt seem to join)

#

Hard to know what might be going wrong, it doesnt seem to be 'doing' anything. I can hold the reset button down on the device and it'll flash but thats about it

raven jewel
#

Did you try replacing the battery?

sage plume
#

Not yet, not even sure what battery is in it but this sensor would see the least activity and there ws no low battery notfication

raven jewel
#

If the battery is too low it won't pair

sage plume
#

Mmm.. it seems unlikly but a easy enough thing to test

lapis gyro
#

Do zigbee devices rely on the cloud?

raven jewel
#

No. Zigbee is a local protocol

lapis gyro
#

thank god

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is there any good places to buy them (uk)?

raven jewel
#

You can't buy Zigbee the protocol. You'll need a coordinator (check the pins), to choose which connection method you want to use (ZHA, Zigbee2MQTT or Deconz), and then pick some hardware which will depend on what you want or need

lapis gyro
#

ooh, I see

#

thank you

fickle fossil
#

Hello! I just bought and received a cheap door sensor from AliExpress expecting it to be compatible with ZHA coordinator, but I can't see the entities working. While looking at the blakadder list of compatible zigbee devices, it looks like ZD06 manufactured by Tuya https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Tuya_ZD06.html. What else can I do if I want this device to be working correctly?

molten linden
#

Try and remove and repair it - failing that create an issue over on the quirks repo. Of most tuya things Iā€™ve tried the contact sensors have all mostly worked as spec compliant zigbee. https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers

fickle fossil
sour shadow
#

is there any good places to buy them uk

quick tartan
#

Hello , I have question about zigbee device in ZHA . I found device status is not change until have someone walk through sensor. How I can fix it?
(I check signal is 65 but connect from repeater)
Ex: PIR Sensor have status : ON more 1 hr

sour shadow
#

What make and model is that sensor?

quick tartan
uneven pumice
#

Hello, do you know how to see all details of device's action with z2m like with zha ? With zha it's in event in HA but with z2m, I don't know where is it. (It's to create a blueprint).Thanks

fallow citrus
#

Can anyone recommend me a Zigbee Radiator Thermostat from Ali?

wide grotto
#

Had to reinstall HA on a new VM and deleted the old one but now i cant add my conbee 2 stick? Anyone know how to reset a conbee 2 stick or how to fix it?

quick hare
#

Is there such a thing for a firmware to be too recent for ZHA? For example, a EFR32MG21 with 6.10.3 EZSP firmware.

molten linden
#

ZHA/Bellows support up through version 9 of ezsp (current release 7.1.3)

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I've used 6.10.3 for quite some time and it's very stable

#

actively shipping new coordinators with that version too.

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only think I'd be cautious about is itead/sonoff compiled versions as the don't tell you what options they are using

quick hare
#

I think my mistake might be there.. I migrated to a Sonoff E with their firmware and I canā€™t add new devices anymore. Iā€™m note sure why.

#

What is your favorite place to pick firmwares?

molten linden
mellow geode
#

EFR32MG2x-768k/NCP_USW_115k2_S2_F768_6103.gbl from the link that tube sent might also work (but I didn't test that)

quick hare
#

Is this what you use personally @mellow geode ? šŸ™‚

mellow geode
#

Heh, at the moment yes. It works "fine". Iā€™ve switched to it a week ago from a CC2652 because the latest dev firmware (SimpleLink SDK 6.20 and now also 6.30) always crashed after a while. Previous stable versions had some issues with many lights changing at once (and ZHA doesnā€™t yet support scenes for groups easily)

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It seems to work okay. I also have some other test networks running with different SilLabs coordinators, but on my main network (with the E dongle over ser2net), Iā€™ve noticed that after a restart, some mains-powered devices are unavailable for a bit. Iā€™m guessing because the stack restarts when HA restarts and routes are deleted on restart with newer EZSP versions

tropic depot
#

interesting

#

what do you mean unavailable?

mellow geode
#

The unavailable thing only seems to affect one device in my garden (which never had issues otherwise) and it also recovers after an hour or so, still weird though. It was always fine with TI coordinators

mellow geode
#

Not unavailable in ZHA

tropic depot
#

aight that makes more sense

mellow geode
#

But I did have two separate devices weirdly turn to unavailable for exactly one second a couple of days ago

tropic depot
#

what kind of device is it? I have one device that does this and it is the only Tuya device I own

#

it's a shutoff valve from moes

mellow geode
#

GLEDOPTO Pro RGBW controller (running 6.7.7 SDK last time I asked)

#

But there are multiple controllers with different chips

#

The newer ones (exactly the same but different firmware) didnā€™t have any issues

quick hare
#

Ahh I see. To be honest, I donā€™t know where to throw myself anymore, the fact that I canā€™t add new devices made it worst from the previous, adding new devices makes the coordinator crash momentarily.

tropic depot
#

weird... i swear we do route disco if a src rte fails...

#

ooh is the older one ZLL by any chance?

mellow geode
#

Yeah, Iā€™ve looked through quite a few bellows commit (thatā€™s also where I saw that the stack resets routes on restart)

mellow geode
tropic depot
#

like did they change profiles w/ the newer firmware

#

that means nothing... unless it is actually certified šŸ˜„

mellow geode
#

Nah, itā€˜s just using different firmware because of a chip update I think

tropic depot
#

ahem... ThirdReality

mellow geode
tropic depot
#

do you have a sniffer?

mellow geode
#

Yeah, Iā€™ll see if I find some time to test what actually happens when it times out

tropic depot
#

i am more curious if on your next restart you see mtor requests from the coord as soon as we spin up

storm compass
#

Noob looking for some help configuring a Zigbee sonoff dongle using MQTT and Zibdee2mqtt. Managed to get everything installed, but when I start Zigbee2Mqtt get the following message in the log:Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-11-11 10:49:31: Connecting to MQTT server at mqtt://core-mosquitto:8123
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-11-11 10:49:32: MQTT error: connect ECONNREFUSED 172.30.33.2:8123
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-11-11 10:49:32: MQTT failed to connect, exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-11-11 10:49:32: Stopping zigbee-herdsman...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-11-11 10:49:33: MQTT error: connect ECONNREFUSED 172.30.33.2:8123
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-11-11 10:49:34: MQTT error: connect ECONNREFUSED 172.30.33.2:8123
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-11-11 10:49:35: MQTT error: connect ECONNREFUSED 172.30.33.2:8123
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-11-11 10:49:36: MQTT error: connect ECONNREFUSED 172.30.33.2:8123
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-11-11 10:49:37: MQTT error: connect ECONNREFUSED 172.30.33.2:8123
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-11-11 10:49:38: MQTT error: connect ECONNREFUSED 172.30.33.2:8123
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-11-11 10:49:39: MQTT error: connect ECONNREFUSED 172.30.33.2:8123
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-11-11 10:49:40: MQTT error: connect ECONNREFUSED 172.30.33.2:8123
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-11-11 10:49:41: MQTT error: connect ECONNREFUSED 172.30.33.2:8123
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-11-11 10:49:41: Stopped zigbee-herdsman

violet dagger
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Your broker doesn't allow the connection for some reason

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Maybe try the IP first for the address

storm compass
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?? sorry how do I do that

raven jewel
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How did you install Mosquitto and Z2M?

storm compass
raven jewel
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OK, and Mosquitto is running? What appears in the addon logs for Mosquitto when you start Z2M?

storm compass
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what I have posted

rapid dawnBOT
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@storm compass I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

šŸ“Ž message.txt
raven jewel
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I said when you start Z2M, not when you start Mosquitto šŸ˜‰

kind rapids
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Is there a reason why a sensor suddenly become unavailable ?

raven jewel
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It could be the battery died, it lost its route, the signal was blocked, or that a router along the way dropped the packet

kind rapids
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I'm sure it's not the battery

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Is there a way to see some logs ?

raven jewel
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Depends on your system, but usually yes.

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The problem is finding the logs before it became unavailable to find the trigger

kind rapids
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It's an aqara sensors, and I'm using a nortek zigbee stick

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maybe I should buy a dedicated aqara hub

raven jewel
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I have no problem with the Aqara sensors and my Sonoff Plus with Z2M

grim igloo
quick hare
mellow geode
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(That firmware also works on the Dongle-E)

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Should be able to flash back to the ITEAD one too

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(Just donā€™t flash any 7.x firmware for now)

quick hare
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Everything is back to normal except that iā€™m still with that issue where the coordinator crash when I unplug-replug the Philips Hue bulb. šŸ˜¦

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ControllerApplication reset unsuccessful: TimeoutError()

viscid dawn
fast sentinel
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hi! hope everyone having a lovely day. trying to troubleshoot some zigbee network issues (some devices stop responding), seeing warnings like this:
2022-11-11 01:27:00.301 WARNING (MainThread) [bellows.zigbee.application] NWK conflict is reported for 0x4ff1
2022-11-11 01:27:00.303 WARNING (MainThread) [bellows.zigbee.application] Found 00:17:88:01:0b:ec:e7:e0 device for 0x4ff1 NWK conflict: Philips 1741930V7
2022-11-11 02:26:22.130 WARNING (MainThread) [bellows.zigbee.application] NWK conflict is reported for 0x1e3b
2022-11-11 02:26:22.132 WARNING (MainThread) [bellows.zigbee.application] Found 00:17:88:01:09:5f:bb:2f device for 0x1e3b NWK conflict: Signify Netherlands B.V. LCD001

what does it mean? how do I remedy? should i remove/re-add the devices?

austere patio
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Did you migrate your network?

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Or did you add every device, one by one?

mellow kiln
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I just setup Home Assistant with a Sonoff Zigbee USB stick. I so far two different switches have randomly disconnected.
Is they show up in the Visualization tab on the zibgee config. but there is no line (assuming that means connection) to the coordinator
is there something i am missing or a way to solve this?

fast sentinel
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i have about 118 devices on the network, generally everything works really well, with the exception of 2-4 devices

austere patio
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Always the same brands?

fast sentinel
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90% of devices are HUE bulbs/downlights. about 16 inovelli switches, and a mix of motion sensors (smartthings)

austere patio
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The ones that stop working, I mean. Are they also just a random mix of devices from your network or are they usually a specific brand?

fast sentinel
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so far there are 2 devices that stop responding, both are hue downlights. its so strange though. one of these lights is bound directly to an inovelli switch. the light will not respond to on/off through home assistant, but if i hit the physical switch, it works. makes no sense. then i saw those warnings in the logs

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but not random, these specific devices giving trouble. i have reset & rejoined them

austere patio
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Did you have problems before installing the Inovelli switches?

fast sentinel
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that is a great question, not sure they are related, but one of the inovelli switches also showing this warning:
2022-11-11 06:34:02.733 WARNING (MainThread) [bellows.zigbee.application] Found 04:0d:84:ff:fe:05:f4:76 device for 0x80cf NWK conflict: Inovelli VZM31-SN

austere patio
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Hmm. Which coordinator are you using?

fast sentinel
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ZHA with a "
SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus V2"

austere patio
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Hmm, another one of the new Sonoff sticks

fast sentinel
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is this a thing? šŸ˜®

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happy to buy whatever 100% works šŸ‘€

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but just curious, what does that "NWK conflict" msg mean? i can at least try and troubleshoot

austere patio
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When the stick tried to send a request to a device with a short address of 0x4ff1, the firmware noticed that two different devices had this same address

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So on your network, you have exclusively Hue, Inovelli, and SmartThings sensors? No other brands?

fast sentinel
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Philips/Signify Netherlands B.V (hue lights)

Samjin (smartthings branded button)

Smartthings motion sensors

CentraLite motions sensors (2)

Inovelli blue switches

GLEDOPTO light strip controller (2)

grim igloo
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Rip

fast sentinel
grim igloo
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Blues still have issues right? And non pro gledopto controllers?

fast sentinel
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blues have been awesome for me - i think they had a bad batch, i got one of that - other 16 are solid

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"GIDEALED Zigbee 3.0 LED Controller Pro"

austere patio
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In theory you can just re-join the offending device but there's some reason the coordinator or some router on the network is confused about network addresses

molten linden
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usually this is sengled with certain mix of devices. šŸ¤”

fast sentinel
fast sentinel
austere patio
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Does it just keep happening if you re-join the listed devices?

rapid dawnBOT
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@fast sentinel I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

šŸ“Ž message.txt
austere patio
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Eight devices? That's really strange.

fast sentinel
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driving me nuts, thanks for thinking it through with me. only suggestion would be to remove all these devices and rejoin?

austere patio
fast sentinel
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yeah i turned off HA, unplugged the dongle for 1 hour and let the network rebuild

quick hare
quick hare
fast sentinel
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yes sir

quick hare
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Was Puddly replying to you or me? Iā€™m confuse now. šŸ˜„

grim igloo
fast sentinel
fast sentinel
grim igloo
# fast sentinel lol can you elaborate?

i remembered reading inovelli blues having issues in the past week but maybe it was specific to a batch of them. and for the gledopto non pro thejulianjes suggested not to get them in the past

grim igloo
fast sentinel
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oo i like that layout, looks clean

tropic depot
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I am working on a new one for ZHA

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it will be similar

fast sentinel
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love it, looking forward to it

grim igloo
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i dont love the idea of z2m requiring mqtt as a middle man i just liked the idea of a control panel and better documentation

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seems zha is going that direction

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Anyone find good deals on zigbee stuff on Ali e for their sale today?

quick hare
fast sentinel
cedar marsh
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ts011f

quick hare
fast sentinel
fast sentinel
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oh and firmware is whatever came on the dongle.. any suggestions on firmware? šŸ˜®

quick hare
opal trail
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I'm having issues with my zigbee thermostats where I can't change the set temperature, even though they are reporting back the current temperature just fine. does anyone have suggestions on how to troubleshoot this kind of issue? the last time this happened, I just rejoined them to the coordinator, but it is happening frequently and I can't figure out why

rough quest
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Hi, i'm looking for Co2 sensor working in zigbee any got a reference for this ?

fast sentinel
molten linden
final pawn
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Does anyone know where you can learn how to configure Zigbee2MQTT options? It is probably a problem of my incompetence but they give me a lot of problems especially sonoff

last ruin
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Should I re-pair a Zigbee power plug if I move it 10 metres through a couple walls to another socket? Z2M.

grizzled jetty
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what can i do to solve the "Data request failed with error: 'No network route' (205)" error? Already replaced the slaesh stick and a longer antenna

last ruin
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I have a bunch of battery powered Aqara devices. Would they behave well when moving power plugs like that?

floral ridge
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Have anyone else this behaviour? Have 2 philips motions connected to zha, one fires events there other not. both still update if motion is cleared or not in sensors overview. getting zha_events in automations is more accurate, because it updates more often.

grizzled jetty
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i've re-added an Aqara Temp/Hum Sensor to Zigbee2mqtt but all sensors exposes are "N/A"

quick hare
fast sentinel
fast sentinel
# austere patio Eight devices? That's really strange.

does this add to the strangeness? seeing like 500 lines like this when i reboot HA:

2022-11-12 10:59:10.827 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.channels.base] [0x4A8E:11:0x0006]: async_initialize: all attempts have failed: [ControllerException('duplicate 164 TSN'), ControllerException('duplicate 242 TSN'), ControllerException('duplicate 214 TSN'), ControllerException('duplicate 249 TSN')]

floral ridge
fast sentinel
gaunt flume
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@mellow geode @tired radish Just in case you guys are interested I ended up buying some Ikea bulbs and they work perfectly so far - the transition issue you mention (TheJulianJES) does not seem to be present anymore.
The only remaining issue I have now is that I have an aqara motion sensor and when I connect that thing to anything but the coordinator it needs to be re-paired every 1-2 days. I have one theory: The placement of the sensor would make the coordinator the best path but I forced it to join the lamp which is technically a detour for the signal, so maybe at some point the sensor tries to rebind to the shorter path and that does not work for some reason - that or I got a dud.

tired radish
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Maybe another Motion Sensor would work better? I donā€˜t use Motion Sensors.

gaunt flume
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yeah the hue one is better in every aspect but twice the price

vast yoke
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can I get a recommendation for a decent zigbee smart plug or wall socket for UK? Trying to top up my aliexpress cart for some extra coupon

sour shadow
vast yoke
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forgot to say: that is a zigbee extender too.

vast yoke
gaunt flume
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arent the sonoff once good as well?

sour shadow
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The Sonoff get mixed reviews in terms of their functioning as a router

gaunt flume
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I only used wifi gear from sonoff so far but that stuff is good

vast yoke
sour shadow
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The Innr however are really good routers

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Good rule of thumb - if it mentions Tuya it stands an excellent chance of being utter shit

vast yoke
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even if it just says "compatible with Tuya"?

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Is Tuya a brand, or a standard of sorts?

gaunt flume
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Tuya kinda produces stuff and sell it to companies which in turn rebrand it and sell it as their own product - thats how I understand it

sour shadow
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Well, companies build stuff and apply Tuya's firmware

gaunt flume
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ok I thought it was hardware as well

sour shadow
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So, some of the stuff is really well built, and some ... not

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Some "10A" sockets will catch on fire at 8A

vast yoke
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ok...

gaunt flume
grim igloo
sour shadow
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Yup, hence why many people advise caution when buying anything Tuya - you've got to do your research

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Some of the Tuya stuff is great, some is ok, and lots you just shouldn't buy

vast yoke
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yeah but I just thought anything Zigbee would be compatible with Tuya, as they just use Zigbee. So anything Zigbee will show Tuya compatible. Or is it not like that?

grim igloo
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it's crazy to me you hear about fire hazard 5 lines up and you're still considering them lol

vast yoke
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I'm not lol. I'm trying to understand the connection xD

lilac wharf
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Tuya does some shitty manufacturer-specific stuff with some (most?) of their Zigbee line of devices

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Some Tuya routers apparently even drop traffic from non-tuya devices

sour shadow
gaunt flume
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The product page does not say its from Tuya but it says its "compatible with Tuya" which could either mean its a Tuya product or it just means that its zigbee and compatible with other zigbee devices

vast yoke
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ok, is this Tuya? https://aliexpi.com/IKUV To me it doesn't look like. But it mentions Tuya as compatible in some places. Good or bad?

vast yoke
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Do I have to stay away from anything that's compatible with Tuya, or only from Tuya branded products? That's the question.

grim igloo
sour shadow
mellow geode
vast yoke
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tbh I still don't get it. It's like saying anything that has the Google Assistant logo is shit, avoid. Does it really say anything about the product? Sorry for being so dense. :S

sour shadow
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TL/DR: Yes

austere patio
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I don't think they let any product use their logo and say "compatible with Tuya" unless it was made with the Tuya firmware builder. It doesn't necessarily mean the product is going to be bad (and compatibility with Google Assistant may mean it's more standards-compliant than other Tuya products), it's just something to be aware of.

gaunt flume
mellow geode
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Do you know what firmware the coordinator is running?

vast yoke
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what about this one? https://aliexpi.com/Jr3K
Doesn't mention Tuya anywhere. However the product design is identical to the Tuya branded. :S

I'm really out of options in Ali. Everything else mentions Tuya.

mellow geode
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(Oh and btw., I think Z2M works around the IKEA transition issue some way)

grim igloo
gaunt flume
mellow geode
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You can try the latest dev firmware (separate branch). The latest two versions might have an issue with crashing but itā€™s mostly been ZHA users that reported that

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But if the Aqara sensor is jumping to the coordinator, it disconnecting might have been fixed

gaunt flume
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No I think it tries to jump to the coordinator but cant and that is whats happening - I mean in the future I will just enable join on all devices and let the end device decide which router it wants to join but I forced it to join the lamp to test something else so I guess I will get one more sensor and use the room furthest away from the coordinator and see what happens then.

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But the thing I wanted to report is that the IKEA bulbs seem to work perfectly with everything else and its like half the price of the hue stuff - the only question is if it will have the same durability it terms of build quality and firmware updates but I guess only time will tell.

sour shadow
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I have some of their CCT bulbs, and I'm happy with them - they've been in place for a couple of years now without issues

gaunt flume
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cct?

sour shadow
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Adjustable white - cold to warm

gaunt flume
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aaahhh

sour shadow
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CCT is the technical term

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correlated colour temperature

gaunt flume
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I learned something today

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or should I say TIL to keep with the theme? :D

unborn orbit
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anyone else have issues with the ecosmart bulbs that were originally sold at home depot dropping off network?

lean echo
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I'm a bit desperate here.... I changed my zigbee channel a few days ago and after having everything working fine, a few hours after, one of my sonoff mini L looked like wasn't in the network so I ended up removing it from Z2M.
I tried to add it again but it won't show up, I thought I might go with the physical button on the relay, but same behaviour, it won't show up. I've checked if I accidentally banned this device to join, but my block list is empty.
Any idea if what could it be? Anyway of clearing cache in z2m or anything like that?

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I completely ran out of ideas šŸ˜”

sour shadow
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What version number of Zigbee2MQTT?

tropic depot
sour shadow
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There's a bug in old versions where if you remove something it won't show up in the UI until you restart Z2M, but it was fixed ages ago

lean echo
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I think I have the last one, let me confirm, but I restarted even the host

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1.28.2-1

sour shadow
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Yup, that's current

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A lot of people running the add-on are stuck on 1.18, which is why I asked

lean echo
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I have sometimes weird behaviours with the other sonoff relay that only get solved if I restart everything, starting to think it could be some bad automation or behaviour with some node red

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Why are they stuck?

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I used the zigpy tool to change channel, not sure if that is something relevant though

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Just to try to discard is a problem with the device... How could I test it outside of my current installation?

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Maybe just backup, delete and reinstall z2m and try?

unborn orbit
grim igloo
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It would be nice if zha/z2m popped up with a warning about adding a device with known issues

tropic depot
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a lot of times issues are mix of situation specific

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I mean if it were up to me Iā€™d blacklist all Tuya lol

opal trail
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I'm having issues with my zigbee thermostats where I can't change the set temperature, even though they are reporting back the current temperature just fine. does anyone have suggestions on how to troubleshoot this kind of issue? the last time this happened, I just rejoined them to the coordinator, but it is happening frequently and I can't figure out why

grim igloo
jaunty flame
sour shadow
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How are you powering the Pi, and do you have any other USB devices connected?

jaunty flame
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It's powered by the official raspi 4 power plug (usb c).
Only one other usb device is connected, the usb stick on which the os is running.

sour shadow
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USB sticks tend to be even worse than SD cards for write life

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It might be that there's not quite enough power, or it could be a fault with the USB extension cable you're (hopefully) using

grim igloo
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Youā€™re using ZHA not z2m correct?

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That v2 stick is the E model which is experimental for z2m still

jaunty flame
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My raspi just ripped 4 sd cards because of many writes lol, so I decided to try with an usb.
But no, I'm not using a extension cable. Why would it make anything better?
@grim igloo no, I'm using ZHA.

grim igloo
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And yeah you definitely need the usb stick on an extender due to interference issues with usb ports

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It fucks up zigbee and zwave

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And bt probably

jaunty flame
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Alright, I will try with an extender cable. Could be the interference with wifi (2.4GHz) be a cause too?

grim igloo
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Apparently the usb spec allows the ports to just emit all kinds of noise

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Sure but not likely

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You can look up a chart to see where 2.4ghz and zigbee overlap

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TLDR- unless youā€™re using ht40 band width itā€™s not a big issue but I used zigbee channel 25 and put my channel 11 2.4AP furthest from it to be safe (youā€™ll see why on the chart)

jaunty flame
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alright, I will try. Thanks guys šŸ˜‰

grim igloo
sour shadow
austere patio
opal trail
jaunty flame
grim igloo
jaunty flame
raven jewel
lilac wharf
raven jewel
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My shortcuts buttons in particular seem to run into this.

jovial aspen
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so which is the more reliable usb coordinator, the Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 Plus-P or a slaesh stick?

jaunty flame
# grim igloo when you eventually move it to a vm or whatever make sure the usb extender takes...

So, I tried with an extension cable, but he problem still persists.
Is 50cm away from the pi enough? Currently, I am trying with about 2m distance.
I already used the usb 2 ports as usb 3.0 seems to be a problem though.
Might the OS usb stick on the other usb port be a problem tough?
Per default, Zigbee seems to use channel 15 on 2.4GHz which is a free channel in my area, so I don't think that is a problem.
Still any ideas?

jovial aspen
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OS USB stick?

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Oh I see youā€™ve been chewing through sd cards

jaunty flame
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yep...

jovial aspen
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I see you have the v2 stick

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I know youā€™re using ZHA, but thatā€™s marked as experimental on the Z2M adapters page

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I donā€™t know enough about ZHA vs Z2M to know if that makes a difference

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This could be what they mean by ā€œdonā€™t use it in a production system if you value stabilityā€

jaunty flame
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I see, could be, yeah

sour shadow
jovial aspen
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I'll try my luck with the Sonoff for a bit. I've been having some weird issues and I'd like to know if it's the Slaesh stick causing them.

odd mango
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hi. I'm having some latency issues, and my network looks like this.

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is this normal?

sour shadow
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That's just a small part of your network, do you only have three routers?

odd mango
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30 devices in total. I wanted to show that lines are red

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what does the color indicate?

sour shadow
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I don't use ZHA, somebody else will have to answer that

violet dagger
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Mr Google: The lines between those representions show all the possible paths through Zigbee mesh. Any path with a LQI over 192 is shown as green, LQI 129-192 is shown as yellow, and anything 128 and lower is shown as red. "

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Red doesn't mean bad here, only no lines sometimes are

odd mango
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and LQI is?

lilac wharf
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Link Quality Index

mellow geode
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if your network works properly, don't worry about LQI/line colors

sour shadow
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LQI is a rough, and often meaningless, indicator of the signal

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If things work, the number doesn't matter

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If things don't work, they also don't matter

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At most you use it to work out if you put something in the wrong spot, by looking at how the value changes when you move the device, but even that's often pointless

lilac wharf
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I'm almost convinced that some manufacturers use 0-40 as the scale instead of 0-254

sour shadow
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I have one sensor that reports anywhere from low single digits to just below 200, with no apparent reason

lilac wharf
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The vast majority of my LQIs are <100 with some as low as 21, but everything works fine

sour shadow
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My mesh is currently spread from 7 to 193, but if I check in 5 minutes it'll be wildly different

lilac wharf
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Same

sour shadow
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The average is likely in the 50-150 range

lilac wharf
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I have one at 196 and that's in the same room as the coord

sour shadow
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Yeah, the one that's currently reporting 193 is in the same room

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The other devices in the same room report anywhere down to 112

molten linden
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I tend to think LQI should only be considered if you have a homogeneous network where every device has same radio chip and fw based on same sdk. šŸ˜‚

violet dagger
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That's some hyper utopian sci-fi

mighty river
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Hello, is there a way to tell a Device to reconnect if it is positioned elsewhere in the house and it can connect via a different better path. Or does this happen automatically?

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with zha

lilac wharf
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it should happen automatically, but some devices (notably Aqara) are known to be "sticky" and tend to stay connected to whatever parent they were originally paired with

mighty river
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can I enforce a reconnection in this situation?

lilac wharf
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no

mighty river
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tnx

lilac wharf
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you would need to unpair the device and re-pair it via whatever router you want

mighty river
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Via "Manage Zigbee Device" I can read and write many properties of a device.

  1. How to make an entity from this property?
  2. how else can I use such a property e.g. in an automation?
lilac wharf
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but there's always the possibility that it will choose a different parent eventually

alpine cipher
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I've bought 5 Aqara P1 motion sensors - correctly paired with Z2M however not getting any readings (Occupancy, illuminance, etc...) - only battery, voltage and LQI are visible. Anyone had the same problem and sorted it ?

mighty river
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IĀ“m very new to discord.
Is there a concept of threads here?
how can different questions with their answers be grouped together?

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Via Manage Zigbee Device I can read and

lean echo
lilac wharf
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I've found restarting z2m in that situation usually fixes that

lean echo
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It didn't I tried even restarting the host

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Now that I have the device paired in a fresh instalation, if I recover a z2m backup will it disappear?

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Or is there anyway I can extract the data from this installation and add it to the old one?

lilac wharf
lean echo
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In the old installation I have a dedicated devices.yaml, on this one is part of the configuration.yaml

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So just adding it there will do all the interviews and all?

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Well, I have backups so ill just try to recover the z2m backup on the fresh installation and let's see what happens šŸ˜…

lilac wharf
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If the network settings are the same, then adding it to the device list might make it appear in z2m

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Or simply power cycling the device might also work, no clue

lean echo
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Yes, they are, I just copy pasted the config from the addon

lean echo
lilac wharf
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I mean when you restore the backup, power cycling the Sonoff mini might make it appear in the z2m UI

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I'm not entirely sure though. The network settings would match, but I'm not sure how z2m would handle a device it doesn't know about attempting to talk on the network

austere patio
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I believe it only allows them to "join" when joins are enabled

lilac wharf
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Ah, I could see that

lean echo
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let me try

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btw @austere patio I noticed that after changing the channel with your tool it didn't somehow change the channel in the config from the addon in the UI even if I changed manually both in configuration.yaml and the backup of z2m

austere patio
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I'm not really all that familiar with how Z2M's addon and settings all sync up but I can totally see that happening

lean echo
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umm interesting... even if I added the config in the addon I had, it got configured to channel 11

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so I'm restarting first after changing it to 20 and let's see if I can pair it again

austere patio
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So it looks like you changing the channel worked, but Z2M changed it back when you started it šŸ˜†

lean echo
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no no, I'm on a fresh installation now

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just backed up everything, renamed the z2m directory and deleted the addon and installed it back

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adding it to devices with the previous configuration didn't work

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I even tried setting it in pair mode again, but nothing šŸ˜¦

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I just replaced the z2m directory with the fresh installation... so it has to be that device id being rejected somewhere somehow?

lilac wharf
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Probably not

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I haven't had an issue with not being able to pair a device to z2m that wasn't solved with restarting z2m. Zigbee sniffing would be potentially helpful here but not necessarily practical

lean echo
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The fact that it paired so quickly while being on channel 11 makes me quite suspicious

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But it's funny that it was working on channel 20 for a few hours

austere patio
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This is a Sonoff device?

lean echo
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Yes mini L relay

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But I hace another one working

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I don't dare to buy any more sonoff stuff tbh šŸ˜…

lean echo
austere patio
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Just keeping track of which devices aren't working well. I have one sitting around, I will have to try and see if it has channel issues.

lean echo
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As I mentioned I have another one of those working "fine"

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Anyway, I'll see if I can give it a try later as I had to restore my backup because I need to leave home now

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I'll keep you posted in case specially if I manage to solve it in case someone else has a similar problem

grim igloo
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<@&330946878646517761> the spammer's messages werent deleted from all channels after he was banned

jagged geyser
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Yeah cleaning up

grim igloo
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thanks

restive tartan
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Is there something I can use to make a solenoid valve, like this https://a.co/d/iDR1ROU open and close with zigbee?

upbeat egret
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Folks, I'm using a Sonoff stick (updated firmware) with ZHA and I bought a couple sonoff temperature sensors.

They were working fine until they all became unavailable at the same time.
I tried restarting HA, reloading ZHA, removing the stick and plugging again. Nothing.

How can I bring the sensors back to life?

austere patio
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What other devices do you have on your network?

upbeat egret
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@austere patio Sengled light bulbs also connected to the same stick. They are all working fine.

austere patio
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So no routing devices?

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How close are the Sonoff sensors to the stick?

upbeat egret
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Less than 10 meters apart.

austere patio
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Is the Sonoff stick on a USB extension cable and not plugged into a USB 3.0 port or straight into a Pi/other SBC?

upbeat egret
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It's plugged in the server on a 3.0 port. No extensions.

austere patio
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Move it onto a USB 2.0 extension cable. USB 3.0 significantly interferes with 2.4GHz devices, and with Zigbee being so low-power, it's likely significantly negatively affecting the range of your stick.

upbeat egret
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oh
Didn't know that. I'll try it on one of the 2.0 ports.

austere patio
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You can just hot plug it, ZHA will reconnect within a few seconds

upbeat egret
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@austere patio Plugged it into a 2.0 port. Restarted the whole thing. Lamps are working. Zonoff still shows as unavailable.

austere patio
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They'll be unavailable until they send something to the coordinator, which can sometimes take an hour. Poke a button on the sensor or remove and re-insert their battery to speed it up.

fossil hull
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Anyone know if there's a way to force a quirk when using ZHA? I updated firmware on one of my devices and it's no longer applying any quirks (after removing / readding to HA). I suspect the original quirk from before the firmware update will still work, but having trouble finding how to manually set the quirk value.

austere patio
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Which quirk?

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Can you also post the current device signature?

fossil hull
# austere patio Which quirk?

zhaquirks.xiaomi.aqara.roller_curtain_e1.RollerE1AQ_2

I updated the device to the latest firmware version and doesn't seem like the quirk automatically applies any longer.

austere patio
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Quirks match based on the device's reported model name, manufacturer name, and the reported clusters. If one of those changed, the quirk won't apply.

fossil hull
fossil hull
austere patio
fossil hull
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Got it, just a sec, comparing with another one on the previous version

fossil hull
austere patio
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What cluster was added/removed?

rapid dawnBOT
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@fossil hull I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

šŸ“Ž message.txt
fossil hull
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Sorry about the formatting, didn't realize it would convert to a file

austere patio
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So clusters 0x0001 (PowerConfiguration) and 0x0006 (OnOff) were removed, and the XiaomiAqaraRollerE1 cluster was added

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I believe all you have to do is copy/paste the existing quirk, remove those two clusters, and then it'll work. Call it RollerE1AQ_3 and it will load.

fossil hull
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Thanks a lot, will give that a try. Is that something that hasn't been merged to the main release channel yet?

austere patio
austere patio
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If it matches and works, please submit a PR!

fossil hull
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I absolutely would, but cannot unfortunately

austere patio
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In that case I'll submit one if you post the custom quirk code that ends up working šŸ˜†

fossil hull
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ha, thanks

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I'll give it a go and report back

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appreciate the help!

fossil hull
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That did the trick, although I didn't need to add a new device class. The v2 class already in that commit was a match. When I went to add in a new version myself, I cross referenced the cluster_ids to double check and found that one already matched. So, once that commit is in release, it should be fine for other users.

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@austere patio (sorry for the wrong @ initially)

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Thanks again for the help, opened my eyes to how this works a bit more, so hopefully I can solve stuff like this myself in future!

molten linden
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this isnā€™t the first time an Xiaomi/Aqara firmware changed a deviceā€™s signature. I know the e-ink display with temp/hum/voc also did this šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø

silk wasp
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Do you guys know of a smart plug that wouldn't burn down the house if I plugged a Vornado VH200 into it so we could control it remotely and schedule it to shut off at night because my dad always forgets to do so? Maybe doubling that with a temp sensor would work?

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I looked at the WeMo Mini, but I think Belkin has switched over to their WeMo Thread, which won't work for us because I'm the only one with an iPhone.

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We're using a SmartThings hub, but we also have Nest and Alexa hubs.

jaunty maple
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Iā€™m thinking of buying a zigbee stick. I run HA on an ubuntu server through docker. What would be the preferred way? Buy a Conbee stick and run deconz in docker as well? Or Zigbee2MGTT in Docker?

sour shadow
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Not the ConBee

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See the pinned messages on sticks, but the TL/DR is to buy something CC2652 based if you're going to use Zigbee2MQTT

jaunty maple
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Alright. So if I buy conbee i run deconz then? Conbee seems to be the easiest to buy in Sweden.

sour shadow
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Sure, if you want to limit yourself

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It should be pretty trivial to get a hold of a CC2652 based stick, if not in country then importing it

violet dagger
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Europe is full of Sonoff sticks

sour shadow
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P stick is good, E stick not so good (for Zigbee2MQTT)

violet dagger
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Hehe... p sticks

jaunty maple
smoky tapir
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at the price of the sonoff sticks, buy both šŸ™‚

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-E stick on ZHA, with sonoff buttons, sengled power monitors, and ikea buttons, all is well so far with that, including auto upgrading the ikea firmware

sour shadow
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The ConBee range are also very sensitive to RF interference

jaunty maple
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I guess i gotta find a swedish retailer selling a sonoff stick then

primal spire
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if I bought a light that is zigbee compatible, and it is not in the list of supported device of ZHA, can I add support to it manually? If yes, is there any guide for it?

livid harbor
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But yeah as already mentioned there is newer hardware out there for the same or cheaper price

jaunty maple
sour shadow
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It's just not a great stick

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But ... you do you, you don't have to listen to me šŸ˜‰

jaunty maple
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I'll keep an eye out for a black Friday deal and maybe snag a sonoff stick. Was looking through the docs for how to configure z2m and it seems to be a lot more daunting than my homey. But hopefully more stable as well.

violet dagger
sour shadow
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I've been running Z2M for years, other than when I had a crappy coordinator I've had no issues

jaunty maple
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Yeah I'm beginning to think more and more that homey is a crappy coordinator unfortunately. Devices keep dropping off the network. Mostly aqara but every now and then a sonoff or Ikea device as well.

jaunty flame
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So I tried with an extension cable but

tropic depot
clever geyser
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I've recently paired 2 hue lihtbulbs. LWE002 dashboard says. One of them got entities startup behaviour and startup current level secondary not. Wierd šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

mellow geode
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Itā€™s likely that the initial configuration on pairing failed to read the specific attributes

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livid harbor
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But if i would buy a stick now i'd go for the cc26..

raven jewel
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Conbee is really not great. If it works you're lucky.

tropic depot
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Hi @mellow geode since you were so helpful with the Hue Sensor last time (thanks for the pr in the update btw), maybe you can help here:

I am tryng to figure out if its possible to calibrate Lumi Weather Sensor in HASS (WSDCGQ11LM, Quirk: zhaquirks.xiaomi.aqara.weather.Weather2).

In the Temperature and Humidity Cluster theres an attribute called 'tolerance'. However I cannot figure out which values it takes to write and if its actually a way to calibrate the offset.

mellow geode
# silent anchor Hi <@773609067264344105> since you were so helpful with the Hue Sensor last time...

In my experience, those sensors are quite accurate, so I never needed to "calibrate" them. I'm also pretty sure that a "on device-calibration" isn't supported by the Aqara sensors.
The only thing you could do is to use Home Assistant and then a template sensor (or similar) to offset the value sent by the sensor.
(IMO, HA should support something like a simple offset to sensor natively or at least make it do-able via the UI, but I think you still need a template sensor atm)

thorn kelp
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Adding Zigbee devices to my network, for some reason devices will add as "unk_manufacturer" sometimes. If i reset the device again, it adds fine. Happened on 2 identical devices. odd...

gaunt flume
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Just FYI the Z2M page of the Hue Tap (https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/8718696743133.html) says that you need a Hue device in your network to pair it but that is not true - I just paired it with all the hue devices (even end devices) removed. (I unplugged them and removed the batteries from the end devices)

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Since I can only test with what I have at hand I can only say that if you have Ikea stuff you can pair "Green Power" devices without issues.

gaunt flume
shadow valley
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i have a philips hue light and also the remote that came with it.. both are identified by my zigbee controller

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i see some mention about binding.. so that i can control the light directly with the remote (in addition to using h-a)

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how can i do that?

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coordinator? and source endpoints?

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it just says 11 and 242 in the source endpoints.. i have no idea which is which and what it means

austere patio
shadow valley
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this is a four button remote

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but i only see two endpoints?

fast sentinel
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hope everyone is having a nice day! quick question: my zigbee network is working well now, however, i am seeing 250+ occurrences of this message anytime i reboot HA/ZHA:
[0x1BD9:11:0x0300]: async_initialize: all attempts have failed: [DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>')]

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something i should ignore? or a time bomb waiting to go off?

shadow valley
thorn kelp
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i had 2 on my desk, one connected fine, the other connected but had no entities attached. reset it again and it worked.

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i've had to do it a couple times so far. just weird.

lean echo
lyric mortar
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Does anyone have recommendations for ZigBee sensors to use with a ConBee II? I just got some Aqara sensors that disconnect daily and from what I've seen on forums it's likely due to me using the ConBee rather than an Aqara hub.

sour shadow
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I use Aqara sensors on a CC2652 without issue - issues are usually down to unsuitable routers

lyric mortar
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As in my wifi router?

lean echo
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@lyric mortar what aqara sensors?