Correct, it was just after the update that's what it looked like. After combining the cards into a stack it looks like this
#frontend-archived
distant phoenix
karmic tiger
Villhellm already told you the answer. If you want to take over from Lovelace's algorithms, you have to do all of the layout stuff yourself.
karmic tiger
You don't need 'mods'. Start by putting that view into panel mode. Add a single horizontal stack card. Within that, add 3 vertical stack cards. Within each of those, add the cards you want in each column.
Custom cards are awesome when there's no native solution... your problem has a native solution.
The only caveat is that it'll still be a 3-column view on mobile.
distant phoenix
You can't have badges in Panel mode though
And also it won't look right on mobile as you said
karmic tiger
This is true... but you can come up with other ways to display 'badge' info in a smaller space once you start doing proper layouts.
This sits within one of my 3 columns: http://prntscr.com/t5vhqc
And the 'button card' is even better for styling, I just haven't gotten that far yet.
distant phoenix
This seems like a lot of hoops to jump through due to Lovelace having these weird limitations. I'm trying to figure out how to work with it, but it seems like it just constantly changes it's layout rules. Why is it that HA uses Lovelace anyway??
Are there no better frontends?
wheat current
That question does not make any sense
karmic tiger
I can't say I've noticed any differences between any of the latest versions. However, I can refresh my page and have the cards be in different positions... it's just the algorithm.
And the frontend is Lovelace because the devs say so 🤷♂️
wheat current
It could be named cheese cake, it's just a name 🤷♂️
distant phoenix
Fair enough it's a name. It just seems so inefficient and I don't understand why it doesn't let you arrange the cards how you want them to be. Drag and drop them even where you want. Why is it this weird Up Down system?
karmic tiger
If you don't like it, take your pick from the alternatives (https://www.awesome-ha.com/#alternative-dashboards). Just remember that this is a community of people that love HA and whining about things that annoy you isn't likely to go down well.
distant phoenix
Is there a benefit to it over something else that's more user friendly and customizable
karmic tiger
Benefits? How about its native integration with HA? 😐
distant phoenix
Right, perhaps I'm not explaining myself properly. Why is the default arrangement option is this Up Down stacking instead of drag and drop to wherever. Is it a technical limitation? Is it just how it's been designed? I just want to understand why like this and not another way
karmic tiger
Like this card, @desert delta : https://github.com/kalkih/mini-graph-card. You can specify the units, which possibly gets around the missing units on your sensor.
desert delta
that is already open in another tab 😄
mild veldt
@distant phoenix propose a better way. A responsive layout is quite challenging to implement while still being easy to configure (the 2nd part being the more important part)
karmic tiger
@distant phoenix how do you propose you drag things in 2D space yet still have a responsive layout for mobile? That's not an easy problem to solve.
Snap
mild veldt
@distant phoenix as an FYI, drag/drop is being worked on, but it just a matter of ordering things. Screen size still changes everything
In the end though, this is a community project. i.e. things are done in one's free time (except the Nabu guys). So if something is lacking, someone needs to take the charge to fix it
white drift
anyone know if its possible to provide an array of values to graph for a mini graph card?
tight scarab
I have seen the cards get into a weird state occasionally where moving one "up" or "down" throws a bunch of the other cards into a different order.
Not sure what precipitates that state, but usually moving something that is misbehaving allllll the way down and then back up to where it needs to be seemed to work. Or just edit the YAML
desert delta
I just wonder, is there some kind of concept for the user interface or a place where a lot of brainstorming happens? Or is it more just piece by piece. I wonder what ideas are around, because while the UI makes permanent progress it still feels like there is a very long road still ahead.
odd light
so did anyone else have all of their custom cards break with the newest upgrade?
says they don't exist.
nm, they eventually came up lol weird
tight scarab
I had to update a few things with HACS first and then restart
desert delta
I have a sensor with a huge array (vacuum map). Can I hide it somehow in the state tab list? it's waaay too huge. Customizations -> Hide from UI does not work.
elder pendant
You cannot
hasty magnet
Huh... for some reason whenever I try to edit something like an entities card in my lovelace, there's no save button, just a spinning indeterminate progress indicator
kind shellBOT
regal hare
half code half a question
I saw that "Most css stuff" works with picture-element cards, but I can't get mix-blend-mode to work. Am I missing something?
ahh found someone else who had the problem earlier but he fixed it by using the keyword that's not working for me. https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/460846676358332417/597218636968493077
regal hare
no luck
green raft
Anyone know if there's a way to show an auto-refreshing image that doesn't cache? Trying to get the latest DOODs match image to display, and it's just a camname_latest.jpg output that's constantly overwritten.
vapid field
Wait you can use both state_colour and state_color?
tranquil kite
I have a sensor with a date format I'd like to change. The date is formated as MM/DD/YY. I want DD/MM/YY.
I've tried creating a template sensor like this but it's the same result. What am i doing wrong?
date_adjusted:
friendly_name: "date adjusted"
value_template: "{{states.sensor.date.attributes.date | timestamp_custom('%d%m%y') }}"
lucid merlin
morning everyone, hey on the lovelace dashboard, i am using a button card for my front door lock (not sure if there is a better choice) and i am trying to set the color to red when it is unlocked. How do i do it?
chilly drift
Hi, folks! I´m really stuck, looking for a way to display an entire group of entities in Lovelace. I believe this is possible, but i cannot find out how...
split granite
@lucid merlin You'd use card-mod with CSS
Back ticks @chilly drift 😉 Next to 1️⃣ on many keyboards
https://github.com/thomasloven/lovelace-card-mod - available through HACS
chilly drift
i am trying to set the color to red when it is unlocked. How do i do it?
@lucid merlin Normally you do this by defining av icon_color template.
templates:
# icon: 'if (state === ''on'') return ''mdi:stop''; return ''mdi:check'';'
# icon_color: 'if (state === ''on'') return ''rgb(251, 210, 41)''; return ''rgb(54, 95, 140)'';'
icon: >-
if (state === "on") return "mdi:stop" ;
return "mdi:check";
icon_color: >-
if (state === "on") return "rgb(251, 210, 41)"";
return "rgb(54, 95, 140)"";
``` 🙂i actually found a vertical card that used a custom card to do it. i just found it before i saw this message
thank you
i needed a better visual than dark grey and blue that the door was locked or unlocked
theme i am using did that. lol
bright horizon
Hi. Who can tell me? All Panels in Lovelanse Are lined up vertically. It looks strange on the computer. On a large screen, there is one column in the middle. How can I place the panels horizontally?
UI in noText mode (Lovelance.yaml)
elder pendant
bright horizon
in card i am use horizontal stack. Is it possible independent of the card is positioned horizontally?
elder pendant
You need to put any cards that you want to align horizontally in a horizontal stack
bright horizon
I need to do like here. https://demo.home-assistant.io/#/lovelace/0
I don't see horizontal stack in config
both for maps and for the page as a whole in a text editor.
how can i send here foto of my Lovelance&
elder pendant
The demo accepts the default card sorting method. If you wanted to match it you would have to use exactly the same cards in exactly the same configuration with exactly the same order
kind shellBOT
mild veldt
@bright horizon you have a single column in the middle on a large screen? you don't have all cards in a vertical-stack, do you?
bright horizon
Can someone help me?
bright horizon
this is one card
bright horizon
Second card
split granite
@bright horizon STOP doing that
bright horizon
ok.
split granite
Now go and re-read the rules
elder pendant
You have everything in a vertical stack. Don't. And your horizontal stacks are doing nothing. One has a single card and the other has no cards
bright horizon
Thank you. I found error in config.
in text editor of lovelance i found excess Vertical stack/
I apologize for the code posted earlier. This is my first time using Discord. I think it would be extremely impractical
split granite
Just use a code share site in future - as explained in #rules and the message the bot DMd you when you joined the server 😉
inland marlin
anyway i can set zoom level on a web page or iframe card?
lucid merlin
is there a way to have it when i go to a different lovelace dashboard that after so many seconds that it will go back to the main dashboard?
elder pendant
with browser_mod maybe
karmic tiger
If you mean views rather than completely different dashboards, this should work: https://github.com/ben8p/lovelace-tab-redirect-card
lucid merlin
hmmm, not sure browser mod has what i am looking for.
i know i can do it with hadashboard and been doing it that way but i am trying to use lovelace dashboard now
dusk holly
Hey, I just installed Hass on a new Pi of mine, I already had a system on a Pi 3, but now that I got a Pi 4 with 8gb ram I wanted to put hass on there.
So the issue I got right now is the History tab, as soon as I open it up, my browser tab freezes, the fans on my pc go haywire and the page dies on me. When I open up any other tab on the webpage it works just fine
Is there a setting that is wrong or have I discovered a bug
elder pendant
Sometimes history can take a long time to load depending on how much data you're trying to pull
Check the log for any errors
dusk holly
how much data
There isn't much, it's a clean system
mild veldt
@dusk holly could try the beta. History performance is improved a lot
dusk holly
@mild veldt How does one do that? 😅
mild veldt
Supervisor > System > Join Beta
dusk holly
Oh thank you!
regal hare
couldn't get mix-blend-mode working in my picture-elements card, but I finally got dynamic lighting working with my floorplan 🙂 https://gfycat.com/sneakyscornfulblowfish
open adder
hello?
waxen dirge
is there a problem with "mini-graph-card" custom card? i can't visualise anymore line graph
rustic aurora
Not sure if this belongs here, but is there any way to find exactly what is connecting via the websocket API? I added the websocket_api sensor, and it currently shows that there are 103 connected clients. However, this seems high as I normally have a maximum 2 browsers (Chrome on desktop and Chromium on Raspberry Pi acting as a kiosk) and 3 mobile devices (2 Android and 1 iOS) connected. But the sensor will only show how many are connected.
shell torrent
I often create a template sensor just because I want a specific number format, typically to show 1 decimal place in the GUI instead to the sensor's actual 10 decimals.
I just realized I now have 115 template sensors, about 600 rows, with no other purpose than to do just this. is it possible to accomplish the same this in another way?
My first guess would be using customize, but that doesn't seem to support that. Other suggestions?
Maybe there is a card that support changing number formats that I haven't found yet?
polar kelp
This, perhaps? https://github.com/thomasloven/lovelace-template-entity-row
Normally, I strongly suggest using template sensors for things like small calculations or extracting an attribute into a sensor value, because then you can also use that for automations and stuff, but when it's pure presentation it makes sense to do it in the frontend.
shell torrent
Well, that looks.. lovely!
Exactly what i was looking for! And I agree totally, for automations I still use the original sensor (or create a template when needed). I just want this for presentation like when a sensor reports 1233.380000000000045474735089 kWh
copper geyser
I'm sorry to ask such a basic question, I've searched around the forums a lot... How can I use attributes to configure Lovelace elements? In the template editor, {{ state_attr('media_player.kitchen', 'entity_picture') }} gives me a useful string but trying to set picture card "image" property to that doesn't work at all. I've tried a lot of combinations of quotes 🙂
split granite
Template sensor 😉
There's very few cards that support templates in any way, and if they do it'll be clearly documented
If you look at those docs:
image
(string)(Required)
You'll note that it takes a string there, not a template
copper geyser
That makes sense. There must be a way to get a useful string, right?
split granite
Custom cards are likely the only option
copper geyser
I'm definitely misunderstanding something - thanks for your patience - in the attributes I can see the exact string I want to use as an image URL. Can I really not cram it into a picture card?
copper geyser
Is there a better way to access a state attribute? Or is all hope lost? 🙂
polar kelp
The thing is, the image property is static. It can't change.
Unless it's a camera image, e.g. a Generic IP Camera with a templated still_image_url.
rustic aurora
Try my Lovelace Card Templater custom card - that can be used as a wrapper around any card to allow you to use Jinja templates. After wrapping the card in that card, you change any option name to add a suffix of _template to allow you to use a template (e.g. image_template).
copper geyser
I think I understand. Thanks for all your help!
severe fox
I would like to start a counter from now. Till I manualy reset it. I made a sensor but there I have to define start and end. For end I stated : end: '{{ now() }}'. But what do I have to set for start?
Or am I in the wrong channel again?
karmic tiger
What are you going to do with the timer? Tell us the problem you're trying to solve, not your solution.
severe fox
I would like to count the amount of logins from blue iris. So every time the state is sent to the MQTT server " on" it adds 1. The counter is working. Every time I login in Blue Iris the counter is counting. But it resets at the end of the day to zero. I would like to continu counting till I reset it manually
It has to start counting today and ends never
karmic tiger
Then you want to go over to #integrations-archived
severe fox
I would like to add the config part but I don't know how. Its juist 7 lines or so
Oke. Thanks.
dusk holly
Okay, so I tried to put the new Pi 4 8gb with Hassio on beta, hoping that my issues with the history tab would stop. But so far it keeps bugging out
I think there is a big loop going on when I open up the history tab
Oh fml youre kidding me, it was my Brave Shield (Brave browser)
split granite
What?
alpine dagger
let me think before i type!
split granite
HA doesn't have a built in password manager
alpine dagger
ignore me completely... im sure i saw "password manager"
but i think i did not .... now
wheat current
alpine dagger
Oh
Hmm that looks cool
I wanted somewhere to store passwords locally
so i could access them through mobile or any computer i'm on
(for free)
split granite
There's plenty of free password managers, see #the-water-cooler 😉
alpine dagger
mfw when i thought i was in lounge 🙂
heady mulch
ahoy folks, im new here, please be gentle. Is there any way to display a list of recordings/images/files on the frontend? I have got my cameras all set up, and am currently setting up motion triggers to record, just couldnt find a way to view them after
split granite
There's not really a (native anyway) file browser
heady mulch
i had thought i could snapshot when the motion happens, then use the local_file as camera to just display that last event
split granite
If it saves to the same file, yes
heady mulch
There is also a change file path option I spotted too 🤔
Maybe if I could get a list of the files, and add buttons to switch to the next file in the list
summer sluice
Would anyone be able to tell me why all of a sudden nothing works for State history, like nothing is being recorded, even though the domain is not excluded in the recorder?
- these all sensors, that is not showing any history all of a sudden
split granite
Check your log file
tough quiver
Hey lads, wondering about icons I want to use a found something better anywaymdi:lightning-bolt as an icon for something but this is not available in the version of mdi hass uses, but i've definitely seen lightning bolts in UI before, any idea what i should be putting for that?
summer sluice
I think I figured it out. I modified the recorder slightly and added Domain under included and put in Scene and did not realize if that if I didn't put "Sensor" as a included domain it would not show up, even though I added the sensors by each Entity. I just tookout the domains part and it seems to be working again.
include:
domains:
- scene
elder pendant
It even spells that out in the docs 😉
summer sluice
I didn't look at it when I made the change, once I realized that is what I did I started to think that was probably it.
somber forge
Hi i have a problem with the following configuration. So i have a sonoff mini in the wall that switches the head rgb lamp.
If i change the type light to button, it works except i have no brightness slider anymore. Is there a way to solve this?
type: light
entity: light.mi_arbeit
name: Arbeit
hold_action:
action: more-info
tap_action:
action: call-service
service: switch.toggle
service_data:
entity_id: switch.so_arbeit_so_arbeit
I don't think you actually stated a problem
What do you want to do vs what is happening?
mild veldt
@somber forge you can not redefine the tap_action for a light card, only hold/double tap
somber forge
@mild veldt to sad. Is there a option to have the brightness slider with a button type. or some other type?
mild veldt
no
somber forge
uff. would it be possible via node-red? Im pretty new to the whole home assistant world.
mild veldt
not that I can think of
somber forge
what and button cant do double_tap, why?
mild veldt
what?
somber forge
Expected a value of type undefined for double_tap_action but received {"action":"more-info"}.
type: button
tap_action:
action: toggle
double_tap_action:
action: more-info
hold_action:
action: more-info
show_icon: true
show_name: true
entity: switch.so_arbeit_so_arbeit
aaah maybe if you want to press it fast. mmmh
elder pendant
double tap works fine, I don't know why the UI card editor shows that warning
somber forge
does it show that warning for you too?
elder pendant
Yes, but the card functions as expected
somber forge
ok testet it. i agree
mmh this should be a bug? Will you report it, otherwise i would, i think?
elder pendant
I'll let you do the honors
somber forge
🙂
mild veldt
issue already known. it is just a warning to indicate that the UI editor does not support double tap actions
mild veldt
yes
somber forge
can i add a screenshoot of this chat with your username?
nova bloom
anyone have advice for someone new. Looking yo use my ipad as control panel. I dont think the deualt app on iPad will do us justice. Not sure which addons to look at and also which can be easily installed on a raspberry pi installation
split granite
Well, generally speaking if you're using #330990055533576204 there's no chance of a local UI
Beyond that, running HA and a UI on the same Pi is "optimistic"
elder pendant
Also not sure what's wrong with using the ios app
nova bloom
ok I could move to docker on an always on PC later.
mild veldt
I'm confused. What does the install method have to do with a UI?
split granite
Because running the UI on another device is ... hard?
mild veldt
That's not how I interpreted their question, I guess. The question is a bit unclear
There are other UIs beyond Lovelace such as HomePanel and HADashboard
nova bloom
per the response i thought it may not be possible. but agree it being hard my be an issue 🙂
mild veldt
There are also iOS apps beyond the official app
split granite
Tileboard
IMO - you're running HA on a server. Put a touch screen UI on some other device
That other device could be another Pi, but keep the duties separate
nova bloom
yes that is the intetion
split granite
That other system doesn't run HA, so no add-ons 😉
nova bloom
to have my ipad or another device be a "remote"
split granite
Absolutely possible
That is how 99.99999999999999999999999999999% of folks run it 😉
nova bloom
any good dashboard suggestions for iPad?
nova bloom
isnt lovelace what is in the ios home assistant app?
mild veldt
HomeKit is an option as well
nova bloom
thank you
elder pendant
If you haven't even tried configuring Lovelace yet I would recommend trying it before going straight to looking for alternatives. It's a very versatile UI
split granite
You can even use things like the Floorplan card to create a very custom UI
elder pendant
Or good old fashioned picture-elements
karmic tiger
@nova bloom Here's an example of a simple card with two kinds of actions (tap and hold): https://hastebin.com/dokanicequ.makefile
In that example, the action is to call a service, and the service specified is timer.pause (other uses might be light.toggle, for example).
If you want to send additional data (like with your remote control), you'll have to add a bit more information to your card's config.
There's more information on button actions on the various card's documentation. E.g. https://www.home-assistant.io/lovelace/button/
nova bloom
thank you!
polar kelp
New release of layout-card! 🎉 https://github.com/thomasloven/lovelace-layout-card/releases/tag/14
Lots of tweaks in that one. Grid is useful, and break should work again.
stoic solstice
Awesome @polar kelp will try it right now! 🙂
break not working 😦 or it's cached somewhere...
2 devices + incognito still does the same, @polar kelp
updated using hacs
civic stream
Is the green colored under the curve thing in this graph something you can do in HA or is it edited afterwards? https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cTEUtYqZipk/XvX5_-aFOJI/AAAAAAAA-7U/VxtsZWmRNUU1hUPGr19sb2wq0Kn6_UuQgCK4BGAsYHg/s602/ac.png
Can do in a history graph card, that is..
polar kelp
@stoic solstice What does your browser console say about layout-card?
stoic solstice
This is all that is specific to layout-card:
LAYOUT-CARD 1.3.0 IS INSTALLED
But i also see this as an error:
NotFoundError: The operation failed because the requested database object could not be found. For example, an object store did not exist but was being opened. mwc-ripple-base.ts:203
But you get a red card?
stoic solstice
yes
polar kelp
Could you show me your configuration?
polar kelp
The view
stoic solstice
Here you go: https://pastebin.com/1UZyXuYq
polar kelp
Dude!
stoic solstice
yo?
polar kelp
Those breaks are not even in the layout-card.
stoic solstice
What?
polar kelp
They're in the vertical-stack inside the layout-card.
stoic solstice
doh, i see that now. Sorry man
Why is there even a vertical stack there? So confused now
Someone hacked me and put it there
I really am sorry about that... I have no idea where that stack even came from. Can't recall putting it there at all
Well, glad to say it works now
polar kelp
Great!
dark dirge
"horiztonal" layout used to essentially turn into "vertical" on a mobile screen and now it tries to cram a bunch of columns in side-by-side (probably what was expected in the first place)
"auto" fixes it, so good to go
with my layout of 3 vertical stacks, at least
polar kelp
If that's the only configuration, then it should behave well on mobile.
I.e. yaml type: custom:layout-card layout: horizontal cards: ...
If you also have column_num or something like that, it will make that many columns.
dark dirge
It's a pretty simple layout, just like that with 3 vertical-stack cards, and using "horizontal" now puts my first and second vertical stack side-by-side and the third directly beneath the first
no column_num: or min/max
the change in behavior is directly correlated to the updated layout card
no change in behavior on the desktop - still shows 3 columns either way
gusty wing
@polar kelp Just wanted to say thanks for all your hard work
ive been working on my lovelace ui and your cards have been awesome
here is some screens, i looks odd on my desktop but its really meant to be viewed on my tablet
odd light
fancy
white drift
so i have two cards showing side by side, but they are simply in the middle of the dashboard. How can i set it up so that the first column takes up 1/3 and the other column is 2/3 of the page?
you know, kind of like bootstrap grids
trying to make better use of space
silver oasis
did anything change on the lovelace 'view' row? since very recently the bar with all the different views just shows up for 1 second before it kinda scrolls up into nirvana and cannot be revealed again. so I cannot go to another view anymore. any ideas?
finite pond
Are emojis supported as names or icons?
vapid field
#hadashboard
vapid field
Does lovelace support gamification integration as well? For example, a smiley if you consume less energy than previous day something. Is it possible to configure front end customly with this logic?
karmic tiger
No. Yes.
You can display almost anything you want in the UI.
But I'm not aware of anything you can just plug in that takes care of gamification for you.
vapid field
But I'm not aware of anything you can just plug in that takes care of gamification for you.
@karmic tiger can I develop an UI myself? Is it open for users?
kind shellBOT
karmic tiger
The Lovelace UI is already very flexible. You use 'cards' to display information. If a built-in card doesn't do what you want, you can install custom cards.
Once you start and you have specific questions, the channel is the right place to get help.
vapid field
ok cheers
vapid field
Is it possible to change the size of an icon in the picture-elements card?
fierce jetty
if i want to display a weather radar map, and put my own marker on it that shows where my house is on the map, the best bet i assume would be to use picture element?
yeah it worked perfect nice
lyric harbor
I'm trying to set up a vertical stack card where I have a drop down input, a text input and then a button. What I'm having an issue with is getting those input values into my button service call
not sure what the best way to share my setup is, an image? Or if there is a proper way to share code.
mild veldt
@vapid field try mdc-icon-size
kind shellBOT
mild veldt
@lyric harbor
lyric harbor
I hope that worked
My issue is the entity_id inside of the service_data tag and needing to link it to the input selection from the first card
I have tried wrapping the entity_id value in {{}} as well but it replaces it with '[object Object']: null
Not sure if what I'm doing is possible with inputs, all the examples I see are in uses with Automations.
karmic tiger
I have tried wrapping the entity_id value in {{}} as well but it replaces it with '[object Object']: null
@lyric harbor Only {{}}?
fierce jetty
i dont see in these docs (https://www.home-assistant.io/lovelace/picture-elements/) unless i am missing it, how can i set my picture element radar map to auto refresh?
also is it possible to have it show the image larger when i click/tap it? i dont see that in the docs either
fathom vault
I updated HA core and HA OS, then updated HACS. But Im still seeing issues with a giant HACS SVG appearing on some pages.
muted inlet
clear browser cache
dark dirge
Clear the cache
fathom vault
On the Community tab, there are various plugins waiting to be updated. Is there any way to update these automatically, or at least update them all en-masse rather than individually>
muted inlet
make some cache cash
fathom vault
yeah cleared the cache, I think this is a diff problem
dark dirge
It’s not
fathom vault
maybe outdated lovelace components which is throwin a spanner in the works
i've cleared my Chrome cache several times though
using from 'All Time' each time
dark dirge
Use shift-reload or control-reload, or similar on your machine
And you need to update manually, one at a time
fathom vault
ok thanks, fixed it. I was previously using Clear Browsing Data -> Advanced -> Cached images and files
this did fix the Configuration tab
at the time
but now I just used Clear Browsing Data -> Basic Tab -> Cached Images and Files
dark dirge
Get in the habit of doing shift-reload
fathom vault
and its fixed it
yeah I do anyway, that didn't help much
Chrome is kinda funky about cached resources sometimes, especially if a redirect was involved
ok.. will update individually thanks
after updating everything, it still says "You have 2 Lovelace elements that are not loaded properly in Lovelace."
is there a way to find out what its referring to?
fathom vault
thanks for the help. I see them in red in frontend section
split granite
lyric harbor
@karmic tiger it was: entity_id: '{{ states(''input_select.player'') }}'
karmic tiger
And what was your attempt without the braces?
lyric harbor
in the link above from hastebin and I get the following log error
this is the code again
karmic tiger
It doesn't appear to be complaining about the entity_id either. It even says media_content_id in the error.
But once you fix that, chances are it'll complain about the entity_id too.
lyric harbor
it shows for both
karmic tiger
Ah, at the top. So it does 😄
split granite
(string)(Optional)
karmic tiger
I always read those traces from the other end, since it's more important.
lyric harbor
yeah I'm not sure why the media_content_id isn't a string
split granite
☝️
sand flame
can someone help me understand what I'm doing wrong installing custom card templates from HACS?
I've seleced and installed custom cards, reboot, then when calling on any of the new templates I always get errors telling me that custom card does not exist.
I know this is little to work from, but does any of my stated process sound wrong?
dark dirge
Either the resource for your card wasn’t added (HACS should do this automatically) or your card definition is wrong
karmic tiger
So the next step is to share your config...
kind shellBOT
sand flame
this is also occurring with integrations via HACS. Download, reboot, then they do not show up in the "add integrations" window.
What's the best approved method to share my config here?
dark dirge
Look up
dark dirge
Your card config
sand flame
gotcha, thx
dark dirge
Are you using the UI to configure the dashboard? As opposed to editing the YAML directly?
sand flame
YAML directly
dark dirge
Ok, then you need to add the resources manually
sand flame
in ui-lovelace.yaml correct?
dark dirge
No
sand flame
oh..
karmic tiger
It's that reading thing again 😄
sand flame
Sorry, didn't mean to annoy you guys. I'll just dip out. Thanks
dark dirge
I'm happy to help, just need to see your config
sand flame
It's here, just started this whole thing. coming from homebridge world so currently this is relatively empty: https://hastebin.com/korowufoxu.makefile
dark dirge
right, so you didn't move your resources from ui-lovelace.yaml to configuration.yaml, as in the docs
that's why it's not working
sand flame
Ok, I've read through the doc and I'm not fully understanding the syntax I should use to move between ui-lovelace to configuration. Is it just:
Lovelace:
resources:
- url: /local/ex_1.js
type: module
dark dirge
it's the same as what you had in ui-lovelace.yaml
sand flame
just about to type, got it!
dark dirge
keeping in mind that you need to use the paths that HACS provides with /hacsfiles/ as the endpoint for plugins that you add via HACS
some of mine:
lovelace:
mode: yaml
resources:
- url: /hacsfiles/lovelace-hass-aarlo/hass-aarlo.js
type: module
- url: /hacsfiles/weather-card/weather-card.js
type: module
- url: /hacsfiles/lovelace-card-tools/card-tools.js
type: module
this is all done for you if you manage Lovelace through the UI, so the manual instructions are scattered and not entirely clear
sand flame
I have no /hacsfiles/ directory, hacs auto installs these straight to "local". Youre saying I should change this?
lyric harbor
I have pivoted to an automation and I'm still stuck on using my inputs... https://hastebin.com/bifihuhoxe.coffeescript
dark dirge
/hacsfiles is just config/www with no caching
wheat current
You do not have a local directory
sand flame
oh, awesome
sand flame
that makes perfect sense, thank you guys. I'll change this now
dark dirge
@lyric harbor #automations-archived
lyric harbor
lol, okay! thanks
mild veldt
@fathom vault there is no mass update as you should be reading release notes on each thing before you update
fathom vault
@mild veldt ok, fair point
mystic jetty
Hey, anyone aware of an "Up Next" type card. Something that lets you queue up a bunch of items and have them pop off the top when done. In my case it is for a smart sprinkler that lets you run a sequence (program) of sprinkler zones one after another but it would be similar to queuing up a box set for some plex binging. I have the program functionality in my integration but just looking for a nice way of presenting the queue through the UI.
honest coyote
My project for today is getting some pretty weather happening in Lovelace, I can find surprisingly little by Google (probably pebcak) but https://github.com/Villhellm/lovelace-animated-background seems like the best option so far. Any other recommendations?
earnest elm
Hello, how to display entity attributes in lovelace UI, example xiaomi motion has temperature attribute how to make it visible in lovelace? I am using mini-graph card but from docs I didn't notice any support for the entity attributes https://github.com/kalkih/mini-graph-card#entities-object
split granite
Looks like there's no direct option there
You can create a https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/template to extract the attribute into an entity state
earnest elm
@split granite I was thinking same approach, wanted to ask if there are any alternatives before doing that
split granite
From the docs of that card, I'd say not
split granite
It's the https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/conversation/ integration @daring bay
daring bay
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nova bloom
is there an easy way to add tiles that i already made to a horizontal or vertical container?
daring bay
That's really cool, and looks like a rabbit hole and a half.
tacit cave
@nova bloom Get a text editor like visual studio code. It has the ability to insert text in a column and auto formatting rules as well
Ctrl+alt click on the column, drag down. Add 2 spaces
Yaml mode only. Nothing for the UI editor
nova bloom
@tacit cave what file am i trying to edit?
just chose raw configuration
then copy and pasete?
tacit cave
Your Lovelace file. You’ll have to edit the page in raw
FYI, if you’re getting into complicated card combinations, it would be worthwhile to switch to yaml mode for that dashboard.
The frontend UI is super nice for beginners but it’s really debilitating for experienced yamlers
nova bloom
so see where i have the cards.
tacit cave
In yaml mode you just reload the page to view your changes. It’s extremely quick
nova bloom
is there any other way to access the yaml file? i dont see it in config. I only see it in the UI when i go configure ui > raw config editor (Im installed on raspberry pi)
split granite
That's not really YAML, so no 😉
nova bloom
what if i make a mistake in there and save it. will i have problems getting back to it to adjust and remove the errors?
split granite
It won't let you save invalid configs
nova bloom
oh
split granite
That's not to say you can't save something and regret it 😉
I'd suggest you copy the raw config editor view and paste that into a text editor
Then if you're unhappy you can use that to revert
nova bloom
i am trying to add the plex recently added card. and i need to add the line:
resources:
- url: /local/custom-lovelace/upcoming-media-card/upcoming-media-card.js?v=0.1.2
type: js
tried to add in raw config editor and got msg "Resources should no longer be added to the Lovelace configuration but can be added in the Lovelace config panel."
where is that?
split granite
Look in 
You'll find something called Lovelace there 😉
In there you'll find Resources - assuming you've enabled Advanced mode in your user profile
nova bloom
yes i saw config then lovelace dhasboards
did not have advnaced mode on
ok got it. thank you!
wanton jolt
Is it somehow possible to change the profile picture of the user? https://i.imgur.com/Uzxcaz5.png
So instead of the F?
split granite
No
wanton jolt
ok, bummer
tidal yew
how can use my own personal weather icon on Weather Forecast Card
shell torrent
I am tryingout https://github.com/thomasloven/lovelace-template-entity-row, but I'm stuck at this part:
"In evaluated templates the function _(<key>) (underscore) will localize the <key> to the current language. E.g. _(state.binary_sensor.motion.off) will be replaced with Clear if your language is set to English."
My state is state: '{{ states(''binary_sensor.motion01'') }}' which works fine, but as the documentation states, wont translate.
The problem is, I can't figure out how to do to make it work as described above.
I have tried every combination I can think of, like state: '{{ _(states(''binary_sensor.motion01'')) }}'and so on.
Suggestions?
potent nova
how do you quickly disable big cards in lovelace.yaml mode?
nova bloom
Is there any way to stop the iOS app pages from moving when you press them.
tepid carbon
Hello, I'm having an issue with the sensor card, I have it monitoring an open hardware manager sensor to get my cpu temp. It displays the current temp but instead of the graph it displays "No state history found"
dark dirge
Are you running the latest HA version?
tepid carbon
Yes
dark dirge
Because that was an issue: https://github.com/home-assistant/frontend/issues/6161
tepid carbon
So it's an issue with the latest version?
dark dirge
No, it was fixed
tepid carbon
Then any other ideas?
idle turret
Anyone got any ideas on this. Sorry to repeat, but I am a complete newb on all of this. If I asking in thw wrong place, please let me know where I should be going with this kind of request.Hi all. Wondering if anyone can help with a custom button card using icon spin and blinking dependent upon various states. Trying to get the Tesla integrtions to show an icon colour (sorry to the US) dependent upon the level of charge (which I have working), then blink if the charge is below a certain level, an spin if the charger is charging. What I have so far is:
kind shellBOT
arctic stump
An efficient and dynamic timer configured with Node-RED for the Home Assistant
https://github.com/orickcorreia/timer-homeassistant
mild veldt
@arctic stump nice
wispy portal
I am confused on something, I have a function in yaml ui template that returns value of the state.
If i call it like return states['sensor.some_sensor'].state it properly shows and updates
If I call it like return states[sensor_name].state it properly shows ( at time of refresh ) state, but never updates
dark dirge
Is this in a button card?
There’s a section on triggers exactly describing this
Like, exactly
wispy portal
custom button
dark dirge
Then find the section on triggers
dark dirge
Np
wispy portal
i wonder if I can somehow put variables as list to triggers_update would be kinda boomer to have this on all ( assuming this triggers on every entity update ever ? )
triggers_update:
- '[[[ return variables.motion ]]]'
something like that
dark dirge
It lists everything that can take a template
Probably wouldn’t look like that
Need some formatting at least, but you’re probably screwed
‘All’ is your friend
wispy portal
or take a shot and just list it two times
one under variables one under triggers
aha!
so you can actually access _config
this._entities.push(variables.motion);
this solves the issue
well config/entities
opal light
Anyone know if it's possible to have a sensor show the last known value instead of NaN when a device goes to deep sleep?
wispy portal
make a new template of the same sensor and only update its value if its state != unavailable
Not sure if there is better way
not sure if that's even gonna work 😄
opal light
That actually might. I'll play around with that. Thanks
vapid field
Can I change the size of an state-icon icon in the picture elements card?
mild veldt
@vapid field yes. mdc-icon-size
vapid field
So what would that look like?
- entity: binary_sensor.updater
icon: 'mdi:lightbulb'
style:
left: 42.2%
top: 27.8%
type: state-icon
mdc-icon-size: 150%```That doesn't work
And the indentation is correct in my config
neat bronze
Hi all, is it possible to build frontend in python package and install it in hassos?
split granite
The frontend is already there...
neat bronze
@split granite I'm asking about installing custom frontend build
split granite
Given the nature of #330990055533576204 I suspect you're out of luck
The dev docs however would be a good place to start
Worth too searching the history here and in #devs_frontend-archived as somebody was asking about this the other month
neat bronze
@split granite thnx I'll look into them.
kind shellBOT
vapid field
@mild veldt Did you see my message?
wispy portal
is there a custom plugin to template entire cards chunks ( like vertical stack with contents etc )?
sort of like !include of yaml mode
mild veldt
@vapid field variables start with --
vapid field
ooh okay
sacred lily
i have this hacs-image as a background on my frontend since an update... how can i get rid of it?
split granite
Clear your browser cache
muted inlet
sacred lily
i also cleared the browser cache, after a restart from hassio it is gone now
thank you very much 🙂
elder pendant
You have to restart for any HACS update to take effect
lyric iris
I'm sure this is a common question. Whats the best way to make cards larger in lovelace? For example I have a history graph card that I'd like to occupy the whole space.
karmic tiger
If by 'the whole space' you mean the view, put it into panel mode.
It's such a common question that it's explained on the Lovelace documentation.
lyric iris
Thanks @karmic tiger . I figured it was an obvious answer but when I searched online for "Large history graph home assistant" I got nothing 😦
karmic tiger
Well that search was a bit... vague 😄
If in doubt, check the docs. If still in doubt, check here 🙂
lyric iris
Cheers, is there a way to make the graph zoomable, or a larger height?
I've adjusted it to panel mode which provides more horizontal space but it doesn't occupy the vertical space
karmic tiger
There are custom cards that allow greater control over aspect ratios.
Not sure about anything that'd let you zoom.
lyric iris
Np, I'll look into it
karmic tiger
Not sure how you'd get a graph into it but this one's highly customisable and exposes aspect ratio controls: https://github.com/custom-cards/button-card#aspect-ratio
Ah, it has native graph options. We have a winner.
nova bloom
Is there a gallery of HA Icons that can be used in cards?
split granite
See the 📌
nova bloom
bravo!
do i need to add something to used these because I added the line" icon: mdi-power" inside a glance card and it shows blank now
mild veldt
mdi:power
nova bloom
oh ok so replace dashes with :?
actually just replace the dash between mdi and the rest of the text so mdi-arrow-up-bold would equate to mdi:arrow-up-bold
gritty frost
Hello. I have a pretty big issue. Last night I installed the GIT pull addons and started it. This AM, I can no longer login to HA. My usual username and password is declined. I can however login using SSH.
Is there a way to recover from this ?
kind shellBOT
split granite
See the relevant channel for your install method ☝️
gritty frost
thanks
elder pendant
Define a tap_action for your card of choice
Or make a script and put the script in an entities card
elder pendant
define tap_action as call-service, then define the service https://www.home-assistant.io/lovelace/actions/#tap-action
untold lark
type: button
tap_action:
action: toggle
entity: hassio.addon_stdin
data:
addon: core_rpc_shutdown
input: main
not working with this
split granite
You need to call-service
And then call the actual service
What you posted there doesn't look like the link posted 😉
untold lark
how
elder pendant
read
untold lark
type: button
tap_action:
action: toggle
call-service
hassio.addon_stdin
entity: hassio.addon_stdin
data:
addon: core_rpc_shutdown
input: main
i am noob at this
elder pendant
That's why you need to read the docs 😉
untold lark
i am dutch 14 and my english is bad
karmic tiger
And to be less 'noob'...
kind shellBOT
split granite
You need to put the data for the service call in there
type: button
tap_action:
action: call-service
service: whatever.core_rpc_shutdown
service_data:
input: main
That won't work, since whatever.core_rpc_shutdown isn't a valid service
You need to use the actual service
untold lark
Kan service whatever/core_rpc_shutdown niet aanroepen Service not found.
karmic tiger
Uh. It's not actually 'whatever'. Find out what the service is, use the real name.
untold lark
lol
split granite
If only I'd actually said that
elder pendant
type: button
tap_action:
action: call-service
service: hassio.addon_stdin
service_data:
addon: core_rpc_shutdown
input: main
maybe
muted inlet
Ender pearl, nice
untold lark
yes it works thank for help everyone
no is my computer turning off see you soon
back
nova bloom
Is there any way to stop the iOS app pages from moving when you press them? Some way to freeze them so the cards don’t move when you swipe?
karmic tiger
Sure, don't use Lovelace.
nova bloom
Ha. Ok. What else would you suggest?
glass panther
hey peeps, not sure this Q is best in here or integrations ?? ...
but question is on iframes... trying to use a local webserver within HA using iframe...
so using 127.0.0.1 to keep within SSL rules (127.0.0.1 is trusted as local as its loopback.. https://letsencrypt.org/docs/certificates-for-localhost/ )
which works 100% locally (this is using my SSL domain).. But when using it from the app (android) is does not..
Which i have worked out is because the iframe works going out from the device its being viewed on, so here 127.0.0.1 is your phone, and not based on HA local address !! ...
is there a way to use HA to display a website that IT renders from ITS point of view, and not have my device render it, from that POV.... ??
karmic tiger
It's nothing to do with rendering. Even if you used server-side rendering, content security policies still apply based on the source of the content.
What are you seeing on the Android?
glass panther
within the app i get webpage no available header, with "webpage at address could not be loaded because : net ::ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED"
karmic tiger
Then your SSL isn't working.
But that's not a #frontend-archived issue. If you used the #add-ons-archived for SSL, go ask there.
glass panther
i presume its because the iframe is just a embededed browser, and thus its like entering 127.0.0.1:81 for eg in your phones browser would give same results....
karmic tiger
Correct. So it's not frontend, it's SSL.
This channel is for help with the UI itself.
glass panther
i understand that, what im asking is there a way for the HA to render and display a page that IT can see, and not from the POV of my device i am connecting to HA ... as in it render the page, and displays it to me ...
karmic tiger
No, because that's not how browsers work.
Even if HA 'made' the page, how do you think it gets to your browser? Oh, yes... across HTTP.
HTTP + SSL = HTTPS.
You're trying to use HTTPS without properly configuring your SSL, so it blocks you.
glass panther
i know, let me rephrase the question then, is there an alternative to iframe, that instead of acting like a local browser on the device being used to connect to HA.. but a rendering html panel ? (edited to make the correct pov!!)
karmic tiger
It would still be a browser and it would still use HTTP(S).
What you are asking is impossible. Solve the actual problem instead of trying to imagine magical ways around it.
elder pendant
I'm not even sure what is being asked
karmic tiger
For content to be 'rendered' by HA and magically transmitted to the other device whilst circumventing all established rules about browsers and security 🤷♂️
glass panther
dont get me wrong i understand WHY its not working ! .. let me try rephrase the question better ...
if i used teamveiwer and connected to my PC, i would be connected securly withthat type of socket and transmission... then i use a brower thats on my PC to display the a local website that is not secure...
karmic tiger
So use TeamViewer 🤷♂️
You're not going to find a way to embed that into Lovelace.
A VNC is not a browser. Pick one.
And, uh... good luck VNCing into HA 😄
glass panther
i am using that as a example to convey that using a rendered local type browser, and have HA render that site which doesnt exit that network all remains secure and doesnt ruin SSL :)
but of course isnt iframe !!
karmic tiger
If only there were a simple way to solve this problem. Like getting your SSL configured correctly 🤷♂️
Anyway, this is going nowhere. Good luck and goodbye.
glass panther
i was asking ultamatly if there was a different command than iframe that does this ...
elder pendant
no
glass panther
yes... but that involves getting and implimenting SSL to a thing that does'nt support SSL and even once achieved, granting that access to the internet !!
@elder pendant thankyou... pretty much waht i was really looking for !!! .. sadly, that is kinda what i thought 😦
glass panther
sadly people use workaround like this https://community.home-assistant.io/t/how-to-deal-with-non-ssl-panel-iframe-pages-inside-ssl-hass-io-environment/55469/25
which i dont think they realise is actually opening access without any login/limits ...
but does actually work !
elder pendant
If it's still tied to a local_ip then it doesn't matter
glass panther
@elder pendant hows you mean ?? ..
elder pendant
iframe src='https://your_local_ip'
if someone tries to open that through the internet nothing will happen
glass panther
yeah it wont will it, hmmm they saying they got it going... so he can access his local thermstat externally ... hmm
glass panther
just beeen looking around for anything similair again .. the Hass.io Ingress ?? can this be implemented manually ?
dark dirge
no
glass panther
ok worth an ask ! 🙂
coarse zodiac
is there any easy way to remove the toggle from the more info box I don't want to accidentally turn something off?
dark dirge
I think you can customize the more-info popup with browser_mod
but there's no simple option for that
coarse zodiac
ok thanks!
vapid field
Hello everyone, I'm looking for the best way to make a dashboard for my wall mounted tablet. I'm kind of lost on what the best way is because there's so much options like appdeamon. What would you guys recommend? (I'm using an ipad if that matters)
split granite
Best is personal
vapid field
Hmm okay
split granite
Start by working out what you want. That kind of thing will help people suggest things
Or, just go and try out various options 🤷
vapid field
Not really looking for buttons or something
Mostly an actual dashboard that displays data
split granite
Then that's probably Lovelace
vapid field
So just Lovelace and make it look pretty with custom cards?
vapid field
Grafana frames?
split granite
vapid field
I know what Grafana is
broken marsh
Are there any floorplan integrations being worked on that allows for drag and drop switches and lights onto the floorplan etc? I'm converting from Domoticz and that is one of the few things missing in HA I think.
limpid apex
You can press f12 and change the values on the go, then you just need to copy the desired value and paste it in your code
nova bloom
anyone use "artem-sedykh/mini-climate-card" and know how to get the tray items under the ellipse (...) to always stay open and visible?
dusk holly
How does one use a frontend button to activate a script? I'm looking for a 'press' button, rather than an on/off switch
hardy zealot
I'm looking at the custom icons support. All examples I've seen return a single SVG path. Is it possible to return a set of paths?
I'm referring to this: https://developers.home-assistant.io/blog/2020/05/09/custom-iconsets/
karmic tiger
I'm looking at the custom icons support. All examples I've seen return a single SVG path. Is it possible to return a set of paths?
@hardy zealot That page suggests so, yes. The example at the bottom isn't very user friendly in the sense that it only implies that you can do more with it... but you wouldn't justreturna static object, you'd have a slightly more complex function that returns a different object based on the input parametername.
If you're looking to write one yourself, just set it up to use a switch statement or a dictionary of some kind.
hardy zealot
All the examples I've seen appear to use a single path. In fact, they accept the data and wrap that data with a path. Could be that the data does not need to be wrapped on a path if the data contains a path (or more than one path)
karmic tiger
Oh, have I misunderstood? You don't mean selecting between multiple icons? You mean multiple paths within a single icon?
hardy zealot
Multiple paths within a single icon.
Code appears to not support that. https://github.com/home-assistant/frontend/blob/364096048691c66762a2f3948c7e1b2aee60995d/src/components/ha-icon.ts#L122
I want to be able to colour one of the paths, for example when a light turns on.
karmic tiger
Yeah, appears you're right. You can do pen up/down but not multiple paths.
Time for a feature request? 😄
Or even better, a PR if you're the techie type.
hardy zealot
I would PR it if I knew the frontend code better. I do better on the backend stuff.
karmic tiger
You know... it doesn't look that tricky. I don't know what the contribution guidelines are for HA though.
Adding many paths would be a pain. Adding a secondary path looks trivial.
elder pendant
There are docs for that 😉
karmic tiger
Yeah, taking a look now.
I feel like I could actually do a PR for this, and it'd be cool to see two-tone icons.
And if I can work this one out, I want to improve my Teams status checker, which probably means writing an integration... may as well share that too if I get that far.
@hardy zealot Could you PM me an example SVG with two paths that'll work as an icon? I'll try to do this tonight.
karmic tiger
Man, setting up a dev environment for the frontend is a ballache. And it looks like you have to run it on the same host as a HA installation. As a Windows user, this is looking like a big 'nope'.
hardy zealot
Window 10 latest? Can create a Linux environment.
Or if on Windows 10 Pro can use HyperV to create Linux VMs -- as many as you want.
karmic tiger
Unless I'm missing something, using WSL to get at Linux commands isn't the same as running a true Linux environment.
hardy zealot
WSL is Linux
karmic tiger
Oh. So I can run anything there?
hardy zealot
Same same, and pretty fast. Assuming you have the 2004 Windows update.
Yes, can run anything.
HyperV is different. Its a general VM environment. Can have multiple of them. I acutally run my Home Assistant in a HyperV Linux VM.
dark dirge
only MSFT can make things better by going back to 2004 🙂
yes, I know it's April 2020 🙂
karmic tiger
Wrong, it's July already.
ruby onyx
is there any way to have multiple yellow ranges in a gauge?
ruby onyx
the conditional seems to only do things based on equal or not equal. Is there a way to do it based on a range? Maybe somehow creating another entity that looks at that entity and changes values based on range
dark dirge
a template sensor could do that
sacred onyx
I have started over with a clean install of HA. And now I've forgot the name of my frontend weather card. It was a beautiful card with animated icons. Does anyone know it's name?
sacred onyx
That's the one! How could I not have found that... Must have looked over it. Thanks a lot RobC!
dark dirge
Np
It has both static and animated icons. For what it’s worth, I prefer the static ones because the animated icons crank up my CPU usage
ruby onyx
@dark dirge thanks! Template sensor is perfect. I can use one to hide and show gauges that have inverted colors
dark dirge
I can always tell that I have the dashboard up because my laptop fan turns on
ruby onyx
to fake having green in a range
dark dirge
Yep
sacred onyx
Ooh, that's one of the reasons I have started over with a clean install. My walltablet sometimes froze HA for 2 seconds when I awakened the screen.
Maybe it was just the time it needed to load the animations?
dark dirge
Mine just ends up in a steady state of excessive CPU usage
Could be related, I guess. Seems unlikely
You have to grab the static icon set from the repo and manually copy over, so not super convenient
sacred onyx
I saw it, I'm currently reading the github page. I'll give it a go and see if this fixes my problem. Thank you very much for your assitance!
dark dirge
Np
median sage
Not really a support question, but people who are doing panel mode on, what did you substitute your badges for? Looking for inspiration (particularly to show people home/away)
Trying glance card, but not loving it
median sage
Interesting
dark dirge
You can do practically anything in a button card
dark dirge
I don't know how to get the badge "look", but I decided that I didn't care and actually like this better
badge styling is so restrictive that you basically have to take what you get
I was apprehensive at changing at first, but now I'm all in
median sage
I like it
karmic tiger
You can use the CSS radius properties to make 'badges' if you're using something like button-card
50% radius is a circle.
dark dirge
I am. I found that in the forum and considered it, then moved on to other things
Maybe I'll revisit
karmic tiger
I like yours. Badges don't have to look like the default Lovelace ones.
dark dirge
I think it didn't work for me right away, but I gave up quickly and worried about other stuff
median sage
I wanted panel, so badges had to go 😂
But I quite liked badges, so am looking at alternatives. Imagine people have different ideas, so wanted to try it
Well at least see it
dark dirge
there's a forum thread with that CSS radius idea that mono mentioned, and you can give it an outline like a badge. You can probably also overlay the status/units like badges do with the button card
it's crazy customizable
median sage
Thanks - is there any way to create 'blank' spaces? To help with the distribution. I guess maybeI could use a blank horizontal/vertical card
dark dirge
button card that displays nothing? go crazy with layout_card
median sage
Ooh ok
dark dirge
if you also use a mobile device or smaller screen, you need to keep that in mind, too
the button cards looked like garbage on my phone when optimized for desktop, so I need to use state-switch to have a desktop and mobile "badge" section
I wish more cards supported user-agent in templates
or even user, which is what I switch on now
median sage
Don't use HA on my phone thankfully... primarily iPad (for control, view, dev everything 😂)
ruby onyx
I want to make a button that runs something for n milliseconds
should i make a timer and just make an automation that turns the switch on while it's running?
karmic tiger
Milliseconds? I don't think timers can go any lower than seconds.
ruby onyx
seconds is fine probbaly
ruby onyx
is there a way to create or edit timers from the UI?
dark dirge
Doesn’t look like it
ruby onyx
so the correct way is to add it to configuration.yaml?
dark dirge
Yes
ruby onyx
thank you
If i want to make a button that triggers a script, what is the preferred method? Creating some kind of software device and change its state?
dark dirge
ruby onyx
thanks again
seems like timers are the wrong way to do this if you have to reload home assistant every time you want to change the duration
I guess I should ask the full question: I want to turn a plug on for n seconds, where n can be set through the interface, be it a slider or something
and I want to click something to make that happen.
I made a timer and an automation based on that timer that works, but now changing the timer duration is a pain
so now i'm considering making a button that runs a script that starts and then stops after a delay
dark dirge
You don’t
You can set the duration when you start the timer
Looks like you want an input_number that sets the timer duration
I recommend reviewing the docs if you came to that conclusion
ruby onyx
the docs for timer?
ruby onyx
how do you do something when an input_number changes?
dark dirge
In the service data for the service call
I’m sure there are some excellent examples on the forum
ruby onyx
ok i will look, I was going to create an automation on event state_changed
but i will look for service data service call stuff
dark dirge
From a quick Google search: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/slider-to-set-minutes-in-a-timer-not-a-delay/64182/4
I don’t think you need an automaton, just a slider to control the duration and a button to start the timer
ruby onyx
yeah I didn't know how services worked so I was going to use an automation to control the duration with the slider
I also used an automation to run the switch when the timer is going, which also seems wrong now
dark dirge
I think you’re probably making this harder than needed
You’re not the first person to ask for it 🙂
ruby onyx
Almost certainly
I think there's a much more direct way to make a button turn a switch on for input_number long that uses delay instead of a timer
dark dirge
You can have a button turn on a switch and then have an automation trigger when the switch turns on, with a for: clause
And an action that turns the switch off
ruby onyx
I think I don't understand the home assistant way of doing things yet. I would want to make a button in the interface and then write a bunch of code to make it do things
ah ok
dark dirge
That’s probably the better way to do it. I was focused on the timer
A typical HA strategy is to trigger when something turns on for some period of time of time (the for: clause), and then turn it off. Better than a delay
ruby onyx
oh for is how long
i was hoping for was like the button that launched it
because I don't want it to turn off everytime anything turns it on for n seconds, just when a particular button does
dark dirge
Yes. When something switches to a state and stays there for a while
ruby onyx
i was thinking like <label for= kind of thing
dark dirge
You can use a condition in the automation for that
Or use a script with a delay. Many ways to do it
Tackle the problems one at a time. The slider, the button, the sequence of steps when the button is pressed
ruby onyx
is there an easy way to make a button that runs a script?
dark dirge
Now you’re back at the beginning again
Go look at the docs
I already mentioned call-service
ruby onyx
ok sorry
I read https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/scripts/service-calls/ three times trying to figure it out
dark dirge
I pointed you to the button card docs
ruby onyx
but I don't even know where you make your own
dark dirge
Look up ‘button card’, and follow tap-action to here: https://www.home-assistant.io/lovelace/actions/#tap-action
You want a button to do something, so start there
ruby onyx
yeah and you said to do call service, so then I was trying to figure out how to write a service
dark dirge
Start here: https://www.home-assistant.io/lovelace/button/
I didn’t just tell you to do a call-service, I pointed you to the docs
ruby onyx
I did, and then it seems like tap option is the way to go, so i clicked tap action and read that form there it seems like of the possible actions call-service is the right one and to use service and service_data
ruby onyx
ah ok thanks
now I understand what you were saying, to call service timer start and pass duration as service data
dark dirge
Yes
ruby onyx
sorry i thought services were a special thing
dark dirge
But that’s not necessarily the best way to solve your problem. Look into the script/delay for that, and call the script via call-service
ruby onyx
ok thanks, that seems much better
dark dirge
Integrations offer services (like timer), but every script is a service
Or turn on an input_boolean via call-service and trigger an automaton on that
Many options
green cargo
anyone using https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ljmerza/light-entity-card/master/card.png not via HACS? as in adding thru HA the URL under Resources? for some reason I cannot get it to be loaded. Have tried creating a sub-folder /community_plugin under /config.
green cargo
so if i download the full file... i unpack i see /dist/, /src/, /webpack... how do i install it without HACS?
the card seems to be in /dist folder
split granite
I'd guess you copy the contents of the dist folder into /config/www/light-entity-card/ and reference it as /local/light-entity-card/light-entity-card.js
But... why not use HACS?
green cargo
new to HA. nvr had to install HACS before so have never done it though.
let me have a look at HACS
kind shellBOT
split granite
You're likely to find it a lot easier than reverse engineering missing documentation 😉
green cargo
lol ok. i'm one of those stuck in the middle kind. stuck because most of the stuff on the net refer to manual edit examples thru yaml files. and yet some of these are already in-built in recent versions.
thru UI
green cargo
isnt that wonderful 😄
green cargo
half the fun is discovery. so i'm good with HA 😄 kinder suprise kind
green cargo
HACS is not listed under the list of integrations within HA
green cargo
yes i am looking at that page
In your Home Assistant UI go to "Configuration", then click "Integrations"
split granite
Have you done all that, and all of https://hacs.xyz/docs/installation/manual (or https://hacs.xyz/docs/installation/manual_cli)?
green cargo
i saw the clear browser cache step i missed. let me try it.
that did it.
thanks mate and @kind shell
honest herald
what ya guys using for clock/date in lovelace?
halcyon laurel
Since updating to 0.112 the header on my main view is coming and going, seemingly randomly on refreshes, regardless of browser and even after clearing cache. The header is also completely gone on iOS app (I'll head over to #ios_and_mac-archived to discuss that, just didn't know if they're related).
wheat current
update custom-header
tranquil grotto
I've been using the fully kiosk app on my amazon fire tablet, and after an hour or so of idle time the home assistant UI turns into a small blue bar at the top with a white bar below it filling up the rest of the screen. Is home assistant timing out? Or is the app my issue? After a webpage reload everything goes back to normal for an hour or so but the problem persists. Additionally, Fully Kiosk will randomly crash while loading home assistant and cause my tablet to reboot.
halcyon laurel
@wheat current worked perfectly -- odd since I'm not using custom-header in the default view, but I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth
hallow spruce
is it possible to use a template in a tap action?
Where I am headed is a button card that when tapped uses the text of a input field in a service call
mild veldt
@hallow spruce not in core. the custom button card can
hallow spruce
ok cool - will check that out
vapid field
hi. can anyone explain when I try to create a custom card by extending htmlelement, how to bind click events?
I just slam everything to innerhtml, but i have problems understandinh how to bind the clicks then
gritty frost
Hello. I have a few entries in my side menu I added to me configuration.yaml file. For some reason, they all work except the one for Octoprint. When I use the URL directly, I see my Octoprint pages just fine but when I click the link from HA, I get a Google Chrome gray page that says 192.168.0.129 refused to connect. My code is : panel_iframe: 3dprinter: title: Octoprint icon: mdi:printer-3d-nozzle-outline url: http://192.168.0.129
Any idea why ?
compact nexus
Any way to turn off this "Automatically disconnect if a tab has been hidden for 5 minutes" feature from .112?
ruby onyx
is it safe in a "delay" time field to do like 00:00:553
like specify just the seconds
and more than 60
compact nexus
@ruby onyx try
delay:
seconds: 553
if i'm doing a delay from an input number in a script
is it `delay:
delay: \n seconds: {{ input_number.the_name }}
i dunno how you format things haha
seconds: {{ input_number.the_name | int }}```This looks like more of an #automations-archived question
ruby onyx
apparently you can't put a template in a delay for some reason
cedar parrot
Why cant you filter stuff in history when you can do that in logbook 🙂
split granite
Because .... nobody has submitted that feature
cunning wolf
Hi everyone, I'm trying to learn the hass. I am currently running on RPI with docker. But I cannot access any web server files (html or js etc). I couldn't even figure out what kind of web server architecture working in the background and broadcasting from the 8123 port. Is this normal or is it my lack? My academic advisor suggested that I use the platform in my MSc thesis. But I need to make visual additions especially on login page and home page, such as adding university logo, adding my name and surname and student information. But I couldn't even change the theme, especially for the login screen. I would be very happy if you could support me.
cunning wolf
Do you have a chance to summarize the working principle?
muted inlet
cunning wolf
Actually, I have reviewed this document but for example, it is not possible to make changes on the login page with the information here.
muted inlet
right. as tinkerer said you'd need to make a custom frontend
there's no stock tool to customize those things
cunning wolf
ok thx
muted inlet
@elder pendant balloob posted this in here a week or so ago: https://gist.github.com/balloob/580deaf8c3fc76948559c5963ed4d436
elder pendant
Nice, thanks!
(may or may not shamelessly steal that and stick it in custom sidebar)
muted inlet
Heh
Between those two things my sidebar is much nicer now (since I hid calendar)
inb4 "my eyes"
And having my custom server controls link on the bottom feels more stock
That OEM feel
Note the lack of HACS...I hardly use custom stuff so I ended up removing it
elder pendant
What I really have been meaning to do is recreate dev tools the way it used to be, with all the links immediately available
elder pendant
ha yeah. I remember being pretty 
about it at the time. Now I hardly remember how it used to be
muted inlet
The recent developer tools change has definitely thrown me off, but I understand the reasoning
Not totally sure logs belongs in configuration though
Sorry @wheat current 😂
elder pendant
hopefully that gets addressed eventually. I don't see a problem with adding panels in dev tools for integrations that require dev tools, but I can see both sides
or come with dev tools is probably more accurate
muted inlet
Moving ZHA and Z-wave to integrations also still gets me. I get the consistency aspect but I feel like those could stay as their own special things in configuration
elder pendant
I understand wanting to keep some menus "pure" in the sense of the core experience, but making them dynamic was better imo
but I rarely submit PRs outside of docs grammar/example edits, so I don't really have an informed opinion
mild veldt
zha/zwave are integrations, are they not?
muted inlet
Yeah they are
mild veldt
so it makes sense, you're just not used to it
elder pendant
yes, but they are more complex than other integrations
muted inlet
I'm just saying I think it made sense that they had their own spot in configuration since they're sort of special
I'm not complaining @mild veldt , I'm just providing feedback
muted inlet
Any thoughts on my last message? @mild veldt
elder pendant
I use zwave2mqtt anyway, so it doesn't really matter to me personally 🤣
mild veldt
@muted inlet were we not talking about your last message?
split granite
It's one of those where I both like it, and hate it... 😄
muted inlet
I'm just saying I think it made sense that they had their own spot in configuration since they're sort of special
split granite
I see why it was done, and I agree with it. However... it's different and confusing until I get used to it... 😛
muted inlet
That's what I mean. What's done is done and that's fine, I just need to get used to it
elder pendant
While info should have been moved, I still think logs belonged in dev tools. don't @ me
mild veldt
it makes sense that they have their own special functions inside Integrations, but I don't think having their own slot in Configuration is necessary
muted inlet
Hmm. I disagree but that's ok 😄
muted inlet
Fite me irl
mild veldt
bike racks, 3pm. be there or be square
elder pendant
tbh just like the change from individual dev tool links, we're all going to forget how it used to be in 4 months anyway
mild veldt
I personally think Developer Tools is all wrong to begin with. It is not for developers, it is for testing. Saying developer makes it seem scary, which it is not. The logs, they are not for testing, they are related to the health of your system and being in with other system stuff makes sense to me
elder pendant
I agree with the "Developer" is scary sentiment, but testing and log errors go hand in hand all too often. It was nice having them together
but I can't think of a better way, and I know it's annoying to just hear "I don't like that way"
muted inlet
yeah having dev tools > services and logs in the same section was handy. i know there's the toast message if something goes wrong with a service call though
mild veldt
i wouldn't be opposed to them being in both locations
mild veldt
no comprendo
muted inlet
why not both?
elder pendant
@muted inlet ah true, the toast is probably good enough now that I think back
I pretty rarely use the services tab anymore, just states
muted inlet
@mild veldt these changes are bad and you should feel bad
runs away
(joking, for anyone who might be concerned)
elder pendant
ow, my heart
muted inlet
I'M SORRY I DIDN'T MEAN IT!
split granite
elder pendant
@mild veldt has the "Developer Tools" name been discussed at all?
muted inlet
yeah that's a good question
elder pendant
because that does make sense to change it. Convincing people they don't need to be a dev to use HA, but they need to use dev tools to automate seems like conflicting statements
muted inlet
indeed
split granite
What would it be called instead 🤔
elder pendant
"Creation Tools"?
elder pendant
"Place where the stuff is"
muted inlet
i was just trying to think of an alternative name
split granite
Oh, I agree, it makes sense...
elder pendant
I think keeping "Tools" is a good idea at least. That's a non-threatening word
mild veldt
@muted inlet yeah system tools seems like a nice balance. Want to open up a FR in frontend?
muted inlet
sure thing. on the forum?
mild veldt
no, github
muted inlet
ah, will do.
mild veldt
I never look at forum FRs, I don't know why they are pushed over there. It's a mess
mild veldt
I suspect it was to limit github issues, but you filter on labels and you're golden and is why I pushed for them in frontend 🤷♂️ I guess core could get out of hand asking for new integrations?
elder pendant
even making a repo for FRs would be better
mild veldt
we used to have that for frontend, hated that as well 🤣
elder pendant
trying to track progress via the forum is.... 🤦