the-water-cooler

[subtle pasture]

You can split the waste water they produce back into hydrogen and oxygen, which will run the fuel cell all over again

But the required electrolysis uses a fuck-ton more power than charging a battery

[hushed basalt]

Yes so you can see the problem

[subtle pasture]

Power consumption, yes. I already stated that cheap hydrogen was the biggest issue...

[hushed basalt]

Why spend 3x more electricity to create hydrogen than charge an EV

[subtle pasture]

Hydrogen is energy intensive to produce at large scales

[subtle pasture]

Because you'll never need to replace the battery, it doesn't wear out

[hushed basalt]

So that wouldn't be a closed loop system in a car

[subtle pasture]

Right, most cars that run on fuel cells support hot-swapping the cell for refueling

[hushed basalt]

I doubt fuel cells last forever

[subtle pasture]

That way the original cell can have electrolysis run on it over a long period of time from solar

[subtle pasture]

Hydrogen fuel cells really don't wear out...

[hushed basalt]

Most hydrogen stuff is just pushed by oil and gas companies

[subtle pasture]

Like, Toyota says their fuel cells last the lifetime of the vehicle (which they estimate at 200,000 miles)

[hushed basalt]

Sources please

Yeah so that's just like a battery or engine

[subtle pasture]

There's no reason a fuel cell wouldn't last longer than that, they just guarantee it'll last at least as long as the car itself

There's not much that can go wrong inside a hydrogen fuel cell. Maybe corrosion on the cathode side from water vapor

It just exchanges protons between hydrogen and oxygen molecules

[last cedar]

Cars should just have mini nuclear reactors, like submarines

Nothing bad could happen

https://tenor.com/view/puppet-awkward-looking-what-side-eye-gif-15476992

[static schooner]

Mr. Fusion

Should have had that back in 2015

I will never believe Hollywood again

[last cedar]

They talked about the "hydrogen fuel station" being self sufficient via solar (how would it work at night or during winter), as an idea here in Sweden

[clear ferry]

Well, even with current extreme power prices of $0.2 per kWh (compared to normal $0.002) it's still plus with gas prices at $13 per gallon

Actually my father paid $0.0005 today for power

It's cheap up north

[forest edge]

power from burning whale oil...

[clear ferry]

If only, we eat it

[clear ferry]

Make us whole again Isaac

[static schooner]

Every so often when I restart HA I quickly flip back to the dashboard without thinking and see the utter flaming mess that results as HA loads. What happened to my system??? Oh, just loading...

[clear ferry]

You look at stuff?

[static schooner]

I do. It's the American way

[clear ferry]

Just be a regular supervised user, do random updates and hope for the best

[forest edge]

confidence is more like it these days.

[cloud otter]

I am seriously surprised that no one has adapted the old Dark Sky integration for use with MyRADAR.

They have a free drop-in replacement API.

[clever mortar]

There's also Pirate Weather

But like all things, somebody has to want to do it

[clear ferry]

I need to try my hand at python soon

Getting my Klipsch sound bar tomorrow

And there is no integration.

Outrageous

[plucky pollen]

maybe it supports DLNA?

[forest edge]

going with that good ole american made huh

💪

[clear ferry]

Don't think you can do control of subwoofer level and different modes with dlna

[clear ferry]

Yes, i went with what the wife had 15% discount on through work

[forest edge]

that company has been around for some time, it's always been considered one of the best in the world

cept for the china made lower end shit

[dusky plank]

is it hdmi?

[clear ferry]

It was between the Klipsch cinema 600 and the sonos arc

I preferred the reviews of the Klipsch

It is hdmi yes

[dusky plank]

you can do all settings via hdmi, put a rpi to it

[clear ferry]

Ew

[static schooner]

replaced my two front speakers and center channel with Klipsch a while ago and they're awesome

[clear ferry]

It has WiFi, and an app, so I'll go that route I guess

[dusky plank]

eh yeah xcuse me - put a 128core and 23TB machine to it

[clear ferry]

And try to reverse engineer it

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/yay-minions-happiness-happy-excited-gif-15324023

[clear ferry]

Which one?

[forest edge]

not sure if the sound bars are made here or in china

[static schooner]

RP280F, RP-140SA, RP-450C

fronts, atmos, center

[dusky plank]

https://www.cec-o-matic.com/
all you need to control hdmi cec devices

[clear ferry]

Specs look good roberto

[dusky plank]

i use it to control my soundbar because i want it to act as speaker without turning the tv on

[clear ferry]

What's soundbar in German?

Funkplanke?

[orchid rose]

Wunderbar

[teal token]

We just call it soundbar 🤷🏻‍♂️

[clear ferry]

Damn inconsistent Germans!

[dusky plank]

such a kindergarten

[clear ferry]

9️⃣

[restive vapor]

The one month expire for google home self setup is fake

Mine was setup on February

And it works until now

[forest edge]

thanks for notifying us. we'll have that fixed asap

[restive vapor]

You can also leave it cz it haves the word may

May not work

Instead of unable its

Sync from Google assistant fail

From homeassistant ok

@forest edge is this some kind of weird behavior

So it's not full sync fail

Homeassistant side sync ok

Just google assistant force sync fails

Yeah
Deleted a entity in homeassistant and it's gone from Google home

Added one and it came up in home assistant

Just if asked from Google it fails

The sync service in google home is working too

So you might update the docs with what I said

So that it doesn't causes confusion

[umbral cliff]

Have you realised yet this is not a support channel?

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/bobatyun-raccoon-soobin-gif-19369912

Support raccoon wishes posts were made in the right channel

[restive vapor]

I do

And it's a recommendation to update docs

[umbral cliff]

So... why did you post here

[restive vapor]

Cz the docs is wrong at this point

[umbral cliff]

You asked for help

And then complained

[static schooner]

there's a handy button at the bottom of each documentation page for that

[umbral cliff]

In a channel which is not designed for either of those

(Except complaining about @clear ferry )

[restive vapor]

I will try to update with my bad explanation

[umbral cliff]

There is #devs_documentation-archived and #general-archived (as I don't know where google assistant stuff would go)

You can use those

[restive vapor]

Email should be mine or GitHub in cla

[umbral cliff]

What

[restive vapor]

Nvm used GitHub email on cla

The non reply one

Cz I use it for commits

Frequently

Now just waiting for it to be merged

[forest edge]

Baffles the hell out of me how every so many years there is a "new" version of someone making a video about teaching how to do some super basic task

Haven't found one that teaches a person how to walk upright on two legs yet, but wouldn't doubt it exists

[desert crypt]

Don’t tell Wife, HomeAssistant now resets the thermostat after an hour so AC doesn’t run 24/7 trying to cool the house to an unobtainable temperature.

[forest edge]

I almost had to do something like that. ours has a remote we can carry around the house and it has an option to override the central thermostat to just use the temps off the remote and the woman kept taking it to the bedroom with her at night while I was still awake so the house was trying to please that one room while leaving the rest of the house and me to suffer

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/thermostat-family-guy-donttouchthethermostat-gif-14387233

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/2yj9i_kna_U

[clear ferry]

If only Dyson could work at NASA we'd be on Pluto already

[forest edge]

They are a british company, would more likely be up uranus

[clear ferry]

@dusky plank https://v.redd.it/7csolnhwt1a91

[static schooner]

I get really tired of cat hair clogging my Dyson vacuum. But it's probably 15 years old

[clear ferry]

[forest edge]

sounds about right. was probably reading a stereo instruction manual too

[clear ferry]

I sound incredibly camp if I try to speak American

British I sound normal

[forest edge]

wtf does incredibly camp mean

you mean you sound like you have cramps?

that time of the month

[clear ferry]

I sound like I'm on an episode of queer eye for a straight guy

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/cgggukb6ck0

none of that video is accurate lol

[clear ferry]

Mostly all YouTubers are not accurate

Just look at the see you next Tuesday Linus

[forest edge]

i dunno his norwegian in america accent might be accurate

[last cedar]

Who has 15 year old cat hair?

[clear ferry]

https://i.redd.it/02ih93f5pz991.png

[glacial knot]

Full throttle in neutral. Not idle

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/truck-smoke-rev-gif-10173152

Sodoma on his way to the store, getting that sweet 3 mpg

[late gate]

Why is it always I reboot HA for 5 seconds during two weeks and hear. "WHY IS THE LIGHTS NOT WORKING"

[finite atlas]

yell back "BECAUSE I PULLED THE WIFI CABLE"

[late gate]

They went to bed in anger

now im alone in the sofa

[finite atlas]

in the sofa? damn it must be hungry today

didnt you feed it some dogs?

[late gate]

on the sofa then :p

and yes I have two hungry huskies, but they are picky on the food

[calm wind]

They are probably toggling the light every 3 seconds

[forest edge]

still better than looking like you on your way to the store. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b6/37/d3/b637d37c35fceaf99e0b6d80e90682c7.jpg

[finite atlas]

that donst ruin the enviroment nearly as much tho

[static schooner]

Horse manure was a big issue in cities pre-automobile

[brazen fable]

anyone here tied some automation into amateur radio?

[last cedar]

And now Boris Johnssons manure will not be littering the UK anymore. Wonderful

[static schooner]

I guess he realized that there was nobody left to get his tea

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/england-lol-really-three-lions-3lions-gif-5267336

[forest edge]

pretty sure that is a delicacy in norway

[static schooner]

only if it's fermented

[forest edge]

if you are gonna eat the whole thing raw anyways.. why not finish the remaining fudge

[clear ferry]

Hey, our fermented fish is produced by digging a hole in the ground and shucking it there for a few months

[static schooner]

Terroir

[forest edge]

so the same process as you treat the deceased huh

[clear ferry]

Not really, cremation is the preferred way to go

[forest edge]

creepy enough that faces can be replicated almost realistically in software but voices so much so you can't even tell what is real and what isn't

[dusky plank]

The mayor of vienna fell for a deep fake conversation with what was supposed to be Selenskyj. He got out of the conversation thinking he actually had a influence on the war. Pathetic

[forest edge]

yup i'll make sure to put in place a deepfake of myself so you guys won't even know i'm gone. i know @clear ferry will fall for it

[dusky plank]

Wait, you are not already a chatbot?

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-shocked-face-stunned-pokemon-shocked-not-shocked-omg-gif-24112152

[static schooner]

He's been gone all along...

[forest edge]

there is no spoon

[clear ferry]

How hard can it be? A fact ignoring farmer with 1500ft cat5 installations,we can emulate you on a 80386sx

[forest edge]

for you very hard since that sounds future tech you don't have access too yet

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/GSbx4yd8pV0

[clear ferry]

Considering charging most modern EVs from 0-80% is less than an hour and most of them have 300+ km range

That is pretty impressive

They appear to be using the 2018+ leaf, which is the same one I have, with either 300 or 400km range, and can charge both on chademo and type2

So wouldn't be hard to find a charge point, and shouldn't be necessary to charge during a normal day for most local forces

[forest edge]

buy a turd, drive a turd, get a turd

[clear ferry]

But I know Australia is trying to propaganda against EVs, so I'm not shocked this is from sky news AU @umbral cliff

Hard lobby against EVs, much like the US

[forest edge]

that scenario is not propaganda based, it's just common sense

[umbral cliff]

Depends on the state. Some states are pro EV, free rego, subsidies, etc. other states just have a road tax for them

Sky news AU is just anti anything other than coal/ gas/ petrol/ etc

[clear ferry]

As I expected

[umbral cliff]

Government here is slowly moving more pro EV, just hard given the distances a lot of people drive

[clear ferry]

Ev charging in the UK appears almost as plentiful as in Norway

[umbral cliff]

Yeah it’s on a lot of light poles there

[clear ferry]

Public charge points in Norway over time

[forest edge]

just because there is a lot of something dosen't make it available accessible in every location

[clear ferry]

For the UK

[late gate]

I used public parking one time driving from Oslo to Stavanger. Other than that Im charging at home

public charging I mean

[clear ferry]

Yeah, I've done out of house charging once so far in 2 months

[umbral cliff]

We’re getting there. Just a) not many EVs here, b) not many people want to spend ages charging on a long drive, c) apartments are a big deal and don’t have chargers, d) charging network slowly growing still

[forest edge]

the scenario is inevitable. one of the main reasons our police haven't switched over

[clear ferry]

Our police forces don't do EVs, but postal has done it for over a decade, and most inner city delivery service

And 85%+ of all new private cars

[forest edge]

non crucial i totally get

mail is a perfect candidate

i do laugh at the ev construction machines

[umbral cliff]

Unsure why the UK police complain about Charging, at least in London they use a lot of bmw i3s. They’re tiny battery range

[umbral cliff]

Why? Because they don’t pollute?

[clear ferry]

The i3 with range extender is quite fun

Doesn't sell in Norway

But it has a small petrol engine, that charges the battery

[forest edge]

because it's a joke

like the ev boat concept

[umbral cliff]

If they do the job what’s the issue

[forest edge]

they don't do the job

[umbral cliff]

Why’s that? They don’t run on 5km long cat6 to do 10gig?

Not true american?

[forest edge]

sure the mini versions might dig a hole but beyond that it's a waste

with that said, that's mainly a europe thing

homeowner here might be able to rent something, but you won't see them on commercial jobs

[clear ferry]

https://v.redd.it/5tt4yigdwaa91

[umbral cliff]

Do you have any sources of it not being suitable? Or just that it’s not an American V8 it can’t do it

[forest edge]

Sure there are sources but living here I don't need an article to tell me what I already see. it's not an American thing it's a limitations of the tech thing

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/jeremy-clarkson-jeremy-clarkson-haha-gif-4922337

[forest edge]

John Deere came out with an EV tractor awhile ago, noone touches it

infact electric PTO's have been around for a long time, and they been shit compared to gear the whole time

[umbral cliff]

Ah so because you don’t see it then it’s terrible. That why you think fibre is terrible? Or solar? 😂

[forest edge]

I don't see it, because it is terrible

otherwise I would see it

derp derp

[umbral cliff]

Ah @clear ferry we’ve figured out why sonoma doesn’t use fibre

And why he thinks 5km runs of cat 6 is sensible

[forest edge]

fuel for heavy machinery alone would validate them switching over but they don't for good reason

[dusky plank]

just bought my new macbook 🤓

soon I only have ARM, goodbye x86

[junior forge]

I'm still on my 2018 macbook

it's itching to be honest 😄

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/david-rose-schitts-creek-david-ew-gif-14149250

[finite atlas]

https://youtu.be/cDoRmT0iRic?t=251

[clear ferry]

Ah, the classic American commuter

[dusky plank]

Mine is from 2013 😂

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/yikes-alexis-alexis-rose-annie-murphy-schitts-creek-gif-20774183

_I need it to run legacy code _

[dusky plank]

Y‘all laughing but i sold my 2012 mbp for 400€ this year. 10 year old computer

[clear ferry]

Apple fools will be apple fools you see

Almost like audiophiles

if I cut this cable 0.04mm more I will get perfect audio

[dusky plank]

In a dream world i could have a lenovo with magsafe, touchpad and processor from apple, the speakers from B&O and factory linux. You know this is not going to happen

[clear ferry]

[dusky plank]

Ayy my playstation will still be x86

The last bastion

[clear ferry]

Only the 5 is x86, are you showing off your riches?

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-intensifies-gif-10591361

[hushed basalt]

Covid is finally here

Daughter got covid

Actually the first time I've actually knowingly been in close contact with someone with it

[clear ferry]

We have had it all here 6 months ago, according to the neighbor all her friends are getting second round now

[forest edge]

you bastards deserve to get it for eating creatures who had it

also found you a friend. jumped in the car and rode the whole way home

[static schooner]

Tweet: Moving to a new neighborhood. YOLO!

[dusky plank]

Really? 4 isn‘t?
In that case yes I do flex

https://tenor.com/view/dab-dabbing-kid-dab-kid-dabbing-cool-dab-gif-20792759

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/arm-day-gym-flex-muscles-gif-12157886

[dusky plank]

Its almost 2 years now since i bought it for original price though, not really a strong flex

More flaccid

[clear ferry]

My wife calls me the longest buyer ever

It took 3 months for me to decide to buy a ps3

She bought me the ps4 after I had debated for 6 months

I still haven't bought a ps5

https://tenor.com/view/ping-discord-angry-admin-discord-mod-gif-19439076

[bitter pawn]

meh. EV's the battery degrades. also if in a chase, EV's range severely decreases. so for post office, makes sense....cops not so much.

so 300-400km on a good day will be a lot less during a stressful one for coppers.

i blame it on killing harambe. if they didnt kill harambe, all of this shit wouldnt have happened.

[finite atlas]

who even are you?

[late gate]

Qwertyqwerty

Ops dns root server password

Unsee

[clear ferry]

Good thing you aren't a French sob

azertyazerty

Or them damn Germans

qwertzqwertz

Speaking of annoying stuff, American keyboards enter key

https://tenor.com/view/grinds-my-gears-peter-griffin-seth-mc-farlane-family-guy-gif-5207367

[late gate]

Jumjum

[static schooner]

that...is a lot of turtles

[late gate]

Tortoises!

[clear ferry]

_yeah I don't want kids, too much responsibility _

_gets 34 tortoises _

[forest edge]

what's your problem? works great. https://theawesomedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/huge-punchable-usb-connected-enter-key-feat-1.jpg

[static schooner]

well, if you could drop kids in a tank, feed them some leafy greens and clean out the tank every so often, it'd be different

[clear ferry]

You can't?

Worked fine with my eldest!

[finite atlas]

i have that one, its a fun gag

[eager ember]

Anyone have solar elec/panels on a rental?

[green inlet]

I have a rental on solar elec/panels….sorry…..close though

[finite atlas]

I have my own solar panels

[restive vapor]

Yay

Waiting for merge

Why discord resized my image

It's back at full size

What a interesting behavior

[dusky plank]

Got a email

Rpi 3 - For 120€

I unsubscribed

[clear ferry]

LÅL

Was it a vintage store ?

[dusky plank]

This is the mail

This is the page following

Its utter bullshit

[clear ferry]

"faster Ethernet"

Still on a pathetic bus

[dusky plank]

https://www.reichelt.de/raspberry-pi-4-b-4x-1-5-ghz-1-gb-ram-wlan-bt-rasp-pi-4-b-1gb-p259874.html?&trstct=pol_1&nbc=1

This is nice though

49€ for a 4

[clear ferry]

That is a reasonable price for a kids toy

Somebody asked me what the most nerdy thing I own is

I ended up saying the variax 300 guitar

With rj45 output

[restive vapor]

How you plug it in
Custom adapter?

[clear ferry]

Oh nice @finite atlas i see power prices are estimated to be €0.5 per kwh in q4 in Germany

France is estimated at €1 per kwh

[finite atlas]

awesome

but i dont care that much tbh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/773533547263950848/994585989014114324/IMG_20220707_144907_874.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/773533547263950848/994889343669907486/IMG_20220708_105328_523.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/773533547263950848/994889376054132736/Screenshot_20220708-105337.png

getting 400+ watts even at cloudy days from just 1/3 of my solar panels
my tiny battery not made for that usecase does 2kW pulls no problem

[dusky plank]

Sheesh

[ripe nimbus]

lingon?

[clear ferry]

Röda vinbär

[low harness]

Ours are all gone already.

[clear ferry]

Still have one bush that isn't done yet

[low harness]

We have some Krusbär coming in soon.

[clear ferry]

Mine died

[low harness]

Have you ever tried white vinbär?

It's like the difference between black and reds taken one step further. Sweet like nobodys bussiness.

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/ahhh-sweet-eric-cartman-south-park-relieved-chillin-gif-21150912

[forest edge]

foreign foods... changes channel

[young sigil]

Everyone in this country hates blackberry plants as they are an invasive weed. I like the fruit so much I was growing (well allowing to live at least, I wasn't tending it) a secret patch at the bottom of my yard. Apparently it got under the fence and into the neighbour's yard. They want me to poison the lot. 😦

[forest edge]

blackberry as in the fruit is not a weed. blackberry weed is a type of marijuana. which are you referring too? lol

[umbral cliff]

The fruit is a weed in australia. It’s an invasive species

https://weeds.dpi.nsw.gov.au/Weeds/Details/18

[umbral cliff]

Should try to save some in a pot first then poison the rest to please the neighbour lol

[forest edge]

should be called an invasive plant, not weed

[umbral cliff]

We call weeds for any plant that’s growing that we don’t specifically want to grow

[forest edge]

and that makes no sense

[umbral cliff]

Just like Americans dropping letters in words doesn’t make sense

Or still using Fahrenheit

But life still goes on

[forest edge]

really? reaching for the bottom of the bucket already?

[umbral cliff]

You’re the one saying the term we use here is weird. I’m saying what other weird stuff Americans do is weird

Weed to us is both the drug or a plant you don’t want. Just depends on whatever the context is

[forest edge]

I didn't say it was weird, i said it makes no sense. there is already a global list of "weeds". to just arbitrary add something that is not a "weed" but is a plant because it's invasive and you don't like it, makes no sense

[umbral cliff]

Funnily enough it’s on the global list of weeds too http://www.hear.org/gcw/species/rubus_fruticosus/

[forest edge]

i like how they separated it as a "European strain" lol

so if it's from europe it's a weed, if not then it's a plant. I'm fine with chalking everything up that lol

[umbral cliff]

Looks like it’s because the American blackberries are just imported plants anyway in some ways

See how some parts of N America even classify it as a weed

[forest edge]

that refers to be a specific species, which I didn't even know there was multiple

blackberries are blackberries where i am

they don't even grow wild here

still makes no sense in my mind to call one variant a plant while another a weed even if they are only calling it a "weed" because of the unwanted and growing nature of it

[low harness]

Anything can be a weed in the wrong place.

Like maple. Lovely trees, but not in my hedges.

[eager ember]

My landlord is putting solar on our house we rent and I had to sign some documents, but at first I was really uncomfortable and was trying to learn more before signing. I ended up talking with the energy company and got some clarity

[shadow prawn]

https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2022/07/09/b527a5056fb75e91.mp4

[tidal bronze]

You only have weeds in KC right? I don't think anything edible grows there!?

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/redneck-super-powers-super-power-redneck-super-power-gif-22491688

[forest edge]

what we call the californians that show up here lol

[tidal bronze]

Wow you said Californians instead of Calis. Finally! Like a true Californian 👍 ❤️

[clear ferry]

I thought the mid westerns preferred to call you dang liberals

[tidal bronze]

Hmmm, it doesn't matter what comes out from flyover states, they are just that. Things to fly over 😆

[forest edge]

that's funny, we just call the planes that fly over things to shoot at lol

if you look out the window at the wrong time you might get blinded by the marking laser lol

[tidal bronze]

Talking about country. Crap you have to do for family. Florida 🤮 Lucky only for 8 hours. Phew

[forest edge]

do you have to use a fake id when you go there? i thought floridians beat up californians lol

like crypts vs bloods

[low harness]

Oh God. The Nvidia control panel translates stuff like "DisplayPort"...

You'd think they would know...

[clear ferry]

Skjärmpårt

It probably relies on the same translation algorithm as everything else, like the Norwegian in HA is atrocious

[low harness]

Those are actually fully community provided. But yes, the Swedish one is bad too.

[clear ferry]

It's like five dyslexic immigrants had a baby sometimes

I'm looking at you @last cedar

[static schooner]

Be the change you want to see in the world

[clear ferry]

Then my dear, the world would burn

[low harness]

It already is.

[clear ferry]

I would do a reading of Prince Prosperos speech from the masque of the red death

But it would probably offend some people

So I want you to remove it at once, and never wear it within this castle again

Also @last cedar https://v.redd.it/9oef40gmkut81

[forest edge]

@clear ferryNorwegian is atrocious fixed

[clear ferry]

It's not my fault you are monolingual

[forest edge]

it's what everyone in this channel read it as, accept it

[last cedar]

Excuse me!

[last cedar]

Hahaha

[clear ferry]

Ya proper bri'ish innit?

[umbral cliff]

8 hours is a short flight. Easy to do

[umbral cliff]

Why not participate and fix it. Your English is above American standard

[tidal bronze]

Oh lol no, I only gotta spend 8 hours there. I would never waste 8 hours flying there. 😆

[umbral cliff]

Ahh then that’s even better 😂

8 hour flights are easy, so wouldn’t think it’s strange to do that lol

[tidal bronze]

Oh long flights are amazing if destination is good.

[forest edge]

long flights are amazing? wtf is wrong with you? lol

[umbral cliff]

Why wouldn’t you like a long flight

Time to relax, sleep, read a book, all without having to do anything

[static schooner]

Even in business class it gets old after a while.

It might be better if it was easier and acceptable to walk around

[umbral cliff]

Eh I disagree. Always find it fun for a long haul

[static schooner]

I've been putting off a trip to Bangalore in part because of the two long legs + layover

[umbral cliff]

How long would the trip be in total?

[static schooner]

30+ hours

Including layover

It's crazy

[umbral cliff]

(Also found layovers are not an issue if you have lounge access - drink to your hearts content)

[static schooner]

Yes, that helps. I lost my status, but international business class usually gets you in

[umbral cliff]

Doable. But could also split the trip by stopping somewhere first for a day or two then continuing

[static schooner]

I've also had good food in business, but I kinda wish it was on demand rather than constantly coming around

[umbral cliff]

Yeah I’ve been lucky enough to fly and get lifetime gold. So even domestic trips are going to be nice lol

Some airlines have on demand eating

But yeah usually it’s when they want they’ll come around

[static schooner]

And I think they do in first

[forest edge]

not everyone likes being stuffed into a sardine fart can

@tidal bronze likes it cause LA smells like a fart can on it's own so to him it's like being home

[forest edge]

@clear ferrythey say global warming will ultimately turn your neck of the woods into a hot humid rainforest. you ready to fight off alligators and giant ants?

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/ralph-wiggum-the-simpsons-unpossible-gif-13955028

[clear ferry]

I'll just hire Vasily as a janitor then

[shadow prawn]

Thought that‘s upossible

[tidal bronze]

DND/CALL buttons FTW

[clear ferry]

Finally had time to plant my sunflowers outdoors

Slava Ukraini

[clear ferry]

Apparently I've spent $25 topping up my nissan leaf the last 2 months

With our current outrageous power prices

That would have been $450 on 3 tanks of fuel on the Volvo v70

$38 if I include the charging of the xc90 daily too

[dusky plank]

My 433 sniffer collected 20 different Renaults, 13 Fords, 4 Fiats and 1 Toyota so far

[clear ferry]

Eeew Renault

Could have been worse though

Peugeot

French cars are the utter shittiest stuff ever made

[dusky plank]

can confirm, my father has one. everything crackles and makes sounds

[clear ferry]

I get rental companies to switch me immediately if I get one

Last time I was in the UK, everyone wants to change away from the French cars the lady at the desk said

[dusky plank]

the old espace were good if i remember correctly, the new ones not so much

[clear ferry]

Saw a review of the e208 when I was looking for an ev

The only highlight in the review was that the engine was Japanese

[hushed basalt]

I want an EV Kia Carnival

I just want a minivan

And I don't want to buy a new ICE car

[finite atlas]

why a minivan tho?

[static schooner]

I don't think I've ever seen anyone excited about buying a minivan

[forest edge]

truth be told you can hardly tell the difference between current minivan's and suv's

[clear ferry]

I would buy the ID buzz, it is cool

[pulsar jasper]

Mine has one too, temperature reading is usually 80... °C GPS just says "street" and that street ends up existing sometimes depending on the mood of said GPS, sometimes you drive into a black part of nothingness on the gps, sometimes it just reboots for no reason, it takes a minute sometimes to change the volume too... but at least the engine still works 😆

[forest edge]

gross

[clear ferry]

Just have to change bulbs every three days? That's the staple of a true french car

[clever mortar]

You've never met a Lada I take it

The only car where a wheel clamp increases the value

[clear ferry]

Well, I've seen a 3 year old Lada Niva that was rusted through

I don't count Lada as a car though

Just a bike with poor build quality

The baguette people at least claim to make cars

It barely qualifies

[hushed basalt]

Philips Hue GU10s are Soooooo much better than the Ikeas

The Ikea white spectrum ones are hot garbage

[glacial knot]

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/420-Freedom-Park-Ave-Liberty-Hill-TX-78642/2078558523_zpid/ american road names never disappoint
the area map is cute

[clear ferry]

Never tried hue gu10, but notice no difference between e27/E14 hue and tradri CT

[glacial knot]

I have innr gu10 in the kitchen, they are fine

I think my Mom got the tradfri ones. And we don't have any issues with them either. Maybe not as accurate or something, but nothing that's obvious in isolation

[dusky plank]

always something extra

[hushed basalt]

I found the tradfri ones unbearable to be lit by

The individual warm and cool LEDs are very obvious

It's more like having 2 individual undiffused bare cool white and warm white led strips on your ceilings

And the colour rendering was horrible

I have tradfri e27 bulbs in other areas and they're okay

[glacial knot]

ahh. we mostly use them on the extremes, so it's not obvious

either warm or cold. Very seldom somethign else

[hushed basalt]

I got the hue ones overseas from amazon for only about 20% more

And i would of paid 100% more to get away from the tradfri

There's also different generations of tradfri GU10 white spectrum

So yours may be different as well

[clear ferry]

I have three different generations of tradfri ct

No issues with any

[clear ferry]

Ikea recently released smart pleated blinds

I should replace my dumb pleated blinds

[hushed basalt]

You're a dumb pleat

Have you had the GU10s though

[clear ferry]

6.3% inflation in June

Noise

[hushed basalt]

How much inflation has happened in 12 months

[clear ferry]

That is yoy

[umbral cliff]

Is that inflation for Norway? Or inflation of your ego

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[forest edge]

6.3% yet still pays 3-5 times more than the rest of the world

[sand agate]

Anyone here familiar with keepalived? More particularly this container https://github.com/osixia/docker-keepalived

[clear ferry]

Yes, y'all topping 9% soon

[fallow karma]

https://fb.watch/ec2XuEol19/

[clear ferry]

vrrp and bfd in a docker container

What in tarnation

What is your actual end goal @sand agate

[sand agate]

Currently I have 3 VMs that are in a docker swarm that run all my services for high availability/failover and I want my reverse proxy to be able to do the same. Currently I am running nginx proxy manager, which does not support swarm mode, so I have to limit it to one of the 3 docker machines.
Basically I just want my reverse proxy to be able to be high availability or have failover as well. Considering moving from NPM to HAProxy since I am running pfsense

[clear ferry]

So, you want to actually run kubernetes instead tbh

And expose the services that way

Swarm is... Pretty useless for almost anything except playing arounda

[sand agate]

hmmm... I was hoping not to have to redo my entire set up

[clear ferry]

Deploying a small kubernetes setup will be less than an hour till the first service is deployed

With VMs as kubernetes workers and managers

[sand agate]

ok, I will look into it. How does kubernetes handle high availability stuff?

[forest edge]

yea we are it's nuts.. but yours seems to act a multiplier to what we got lol

[clear ferry]

It is made for it

The entire ecosystem exists for HA and failover

Pure docker is a kids toy in comparison

[clear ferry]

But we are less than you

[forest edge]

that's why i said yours acts more as a multiplier to us. you pay like 6.3x more for shit than we currently do lmao

[clear ferry]

Sounds very likely

[clear ferry]

https://i.redd.it/w91y04ly6xa91.jpg

[static schooner]

so...you need to quit and come back?

that's the kind of thinking that deserves double your salary 🙂

[clear ferry]

Yeah, that is what a lot of people are doing

Pretty sure I'm the best paid in my role in northern Europe tbh

[static schooner]

#1 pizza place in this strip mall

[clear ferry]

What about the other one?

[dusky plank]

interface is a little overwhelmed

[orchid rose]

Whenever I read German I think the sentences/words should end with a !

[clear ferry]

Überlasted!

[haughty plaza]

@static schooner this is an example where i'm working on. the white boxes tells that the light should be on

[static schooner]

please don't use this channel to post pictures from other channels

[velvet horizon]

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

Command '~images' was invoked by: RobC

[forest edge]

yea DM them all to @clear ferry instead

[clear ferry]

[static schooner]

Whoa: https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/goddard/2022/nasa-s-webb-delivers-deepest-infrared-image-of-universe-yet

If I didn't know better, I would say that somebody overdid the Photoshop job

[late gate]

I should sleep. Discord on ambien is a bad idea

[forest edge]

pretty sure I had a poster of that picture back in the 80's

[static schooner]

right next to the ubiquitous mushroom cloud

[forest edge]

found of a video about norwegian behavior https://www.instagram.com/p/Bz9GMybFU9N/

benedictpolizzi

if guys were dogs 🐕

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[lapis pike]

i wanna know who THE FUCK. decided to make the google home remote NOT HAVE A PAUSE BUTTON????

[forest edge]

like with most minimalist remotes the select button also acts as the play/pause

direction d pad left and right for fast forward/rewind etc

[lapis pike]

yeah but it’s just not the same. i click it once all the menu options come up. i have to click it again.

i’d much rather have that than a netflix button

[forest edge]

well can't have a tiny remote with more buttons..

that netflix button helps keep the cost of the device down, same with any future replacement remotes etc

roku is the same way

[umbral cliff]

A roku remote (branded from a telco - telstra) that has play pause

You could make play pause small, stick it between power & source on the chromecast remote

[clever mortar]

A lot of setups have the play button also the pause button, which works

[dusky plank]

Good morning

[clever mortar]

[umbral cliff]

Morning!

[clear ferry]

Exactly what I said to my wife

Wow, a pause button on a minimalist remote

[forest edge]

where's the select button tho?

[clear ferry]

On the touch plate itself

[forest edge]

is that why there is 2ft of blank remote?

[clear ferry]

Yes, the top is a touch plate

[forest edge]

was referring to branded buttons.

[clear ferry]

The Roku remote is the ultimate capitalism wet dream

[forest edge]

gross

[clear ferry]

Buttons locked to apps that might not even exist anymore

Because someone paid to have it there

[forest edge]

it lowers the cost of the device so meh

[forest edge]

don't think i have ever seen one with a blockbuster shortcut before

[umbral cliff]

This remote is definitely a better style. Still has a play/pause button though

[clear ferry]

Eh, i prefer the one I have, I find that design archaic

[forest edge]

the play/pause and select are generally the same on most remotes

the only thing missing from the google remote is the play/pause icon sticker on the button lol

[dusky plank]

I only use my lg remote, mapped all the smart app buttons to select the respective apps on the apple tv except for youtube where I use the adfree smart app

[forest edge]

apple tv gross

[dusky plank]

is that how you spell great?

[clear ferry]

Only good apple product

[forest edge]

why not just move to norway as well.. complete that transformation to sucksville

[clear ferry]

I've had three generations of apple tv, not even tempted to change to anything else

[forest edge]

people need to really stop supporting that hot trash

[clear ferry]

Yeah, we are trying to get rid of Missouri all over

[dusky plank]

Theres multiple versions of the black remote

[forest edge]

must be why you purchased something that was shipped from here huh...

[clear ferry]

Yeah, trying to get everything out of there so we can flatten it

[forest edge]

adding a white ring around the menu button was it's own "version"? lol

[dusky plank]

just bought 3 apple machines @forest edge , how mad are you?

[clear ferry]

I like the design of the Klipsch soundbar

The sub fit perfectly inside the cabinet

[forest edge]

congrats on purchasing ewaste

i remember when soundbars were considered a joke

now it's like the norm

i still prefer to just have semi decent tv speakers and no additional crap

[glacial knot]

Is that actually good for sound? I thought subs need some space around them

[forest edge]

the house rattles and drowns out any sound regardless so may as well hide the woofer

[clear ferry]

It works fine for 95% of the viewing, it does just as good a job there as in the corner of the room @glacial knot

For movies I'll open the door

[forest edge]

ha automate that door opening

ugh reolink is gonna make me jump through hoops before accepting my warranty replacement

[umbral cliff]

Except in YouTube the select button opens the menu first then press again to pause which is annoying

[forest edge]

dosen't it do that on the roku as well?

[umbral cliff]

Yeah but roku has a play pause

[forest edge]

youtube on devices like that is weird

[umbral cliff]

So does apple

So you don’t need to worry

[clear ferry]

YouTube is great on TV boxes

[forest edge]

i meant when you press the play/pause button dosen't it open the menu on the roku as well?

[clear ferry]

Heck, I probably watch more YouTube than tv

[umbral cliff]

Nope?

[clear ferry]

Not on Apple either

[umbral cliff]

Play pause pauses/ plays without menu as the intermediate step

Chromecast you have to press twice

[clear ferry]

Like a sane remote you say

[forest edge]

according to google the select button on the google remote is the play/pause so any additional steps needed for the youtube app is app based

althought i thought for sure the play/pause button the roku remote also brought up the menu in the youtube app

if i hadn't lost the roku remote for the tv i have in here that i use for my camera feeds i would test it but not about to bother using the phone app lol

[umbral cliff]

It brings the menu, but also pauses in one button press, if I press the select button then it brings up the menu first like the chromecast

[umbral cliff]

Chromecast wins for cost though, so much cheaper

[forest edge]

did you check in the app settings to see if there is a feature to change that behavior?

[umbral cliff]

Yes. There isn’t

[clear ferry]

Eh, i paid $100 for an unopened appletv 4k, which has a lot more features

[umbral cliff]

Lot more features? They’re the same though except gaming I guess

$100 is good

[forest edge]

locked to strict ecosystem is something i wouldn't call "features" lol

[umbral cliff]

Chromecast is also locked to a strict ecosystem

[forest edge]

chromecast is not google tv tho

or android for that matter

[umbral cliff]

Chromecast with google tv. Whatever you want to call it

It’s still you can only use the built in store to download apps

[clear ferry]

In my experience the Chromecast has poor codec support compared to the Apple TV, so had to transcode more, also couldn't do pip notification with Chromecast and older Chromecast where you had to do everything on the phone was a hassle

[forest edge]

not true, i saw a video that shows the ability to side load apps

on the new chromecast with google tv

[umbral cliff]

Ah fun. Not that it’s ever needed since most apps exist there

[forest edge]

it's not fair to compare chromecast to apple tv, you would compare android to apple tv for a more level playing field comprasion

[clear ferry]

Android TV is usually rubbish since the hardware it is running on is a mobile phone from the early 10s

[forest edge]

pretty sure they updated it lol

[clear ferry]

I've only tried it on Sony though

[dusky plank]

You can also sideload on apple tv, just saying

[umbral cliff]

No tvs are usually crap with it. Have a cheap TCL, it’s slower than the chromecast with google tv

[forest edge]

also some companies like sony run thier own hacked version

[umbral cliff]

But bearable

[forest edge]

no diff than non google phones with android

[clear ferry]

Barely bearable, if you are patient

[umbral cliff]

Nah it’s better than that

[forest edge]

google tv and android on tv is still two diffrent things

[clear ferry]

Apple TV > Roku > Chromecast > Android TV

[dusky plank]

This is the wae

[umbral cliff]

Google tv is android on tv

[proven spruce]

nope

[forest edge]

google tv is like an app running on an os

[umbral cliff]

So the chromecast with google tv is an app even though it’s an entire os

[clear ferry]

Google Chromecast 4th gen apparently has Google TV, but costs as much as a cheap apple tv

I know which one I'll choose

[forest edge]

yes

[umbral cliff]

How is an app an OS then

[forest edge]

android tv is pure android os on tv, everything else is something running on a diffrent os underneath

[dusky plank]

Put kodi on it, call it a day

[forest edge]

there isn't many, but they still make android tv's

[proven spruce]

i put kodi on my google tv 😛

[clear ferry]

I haven't used XBMC/Kodi since 2009

[umbral cliff]

Yeah but you get chromecast on chromecasts at least vs only airplay on atv

[clear ferry]

I don't need to use casting at all since everything is available in apps I can scroll

Heck , i don't think I've used casting at all since 2016 at least

[forest edge]

wish the roku's casting wasn't complete garbage

[forest edge]

@clear ferryjust saw your apple tv video.. understand the touch part you were refering too https://youtu.be/FLGBnVi_IjI

[dusky plank]

I see someone having a stroke

[clear ferry]

Can't take people who can't spell piece correctly seriously

Who also looks like they live in their moms bedroom

[clear ferry]

Now that I'm moving my office into the garage, another discord user was worried about the noise levels in my new office

20cm in front of the rack is 60db, where I'm sitting is 50db, that is when I'm running all my production systems plus my lab

Now to just clean up and make room for my desk where the keyboard is

[quartz ether]

@fringe wave do you still develop the esp milight hub?

[finite atlas]

i see so many unwired ethernet ports

[clear ferry]

Yes, my network lab is connected as needed

Still haven't had time to connect it to ha for webhook power up as needed

[clear ferry]

@last cedar gotten your phev yet?

Just got an appointment to fix all the annoyances with my Volvo, i love 7 year warranty

[last cedar]

Leave me alone, stop bulling me!

Of course I haven't got it yet

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/bully-soccer-gif-9249976

[last cedar]

I believe they were starting manufacture week 32 this year

I think it was this year

[clear ferry]

I heard the ID3 is now 14 month lead time on

[last cedar]

I hope it was this year

[last cedar]

I can believe that

[clear ferry]

XC90 is apparently 10 months now

[last cedar]

So with a bit of luck I may have it before christmas

[clear ferry]

Christmas 2023 you say

[last cedar]

Not sure which christmas

Hahaha

Exactly

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/santa-claus-reindeer-seasonal-christmas-xmas-gif-23935674

[last cedar]

I am very frustrated by the whole thing, not only have I not got a car yet, it will also cost me nearly dubble what colleages are paying for theirs

[clear ferry]

Hwat

[last cedar]

After a certain date last year, they raised the tax deductable from like 3500 sek to 4900 per month

We pay 30% of it, ish

So they pay 900 sek ish, mine was over 1600 sek

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-enraged-outrage-panda-rude-gif-5707949

[last cedar]

Yeah, but at this rate I will never get the car, so no worries

Looking at chargers now, we have 3 to choose from via work, where we get money back for the electric

[clear ferry]

At least it isn't an Audi

Brb $2 a month for adaptive headlights

[last cedar]

So looking at a charge amps aura and halo

[clear ferry]

Brb $2 a month for rain sensor

[last cedar]

I do believe this car has extras to pay for

[clear ferry]

Lål

[last cedar]

But more like extra colours for the leds inside

[clear ferry]

CaaS

[last cedar]

Rather than steering wheel, windows etc

I wouldn't want a car with lots of pay for extra useful things though

[clear ferry]

"sorry your brake payment was declined"

"have a steep downhill"

[last cedar]

Haha

It may come to that at some point

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-tales-capitalism-scrooge-thats-capitalism-gif-16461232

[last cedar]

Mmm

So yeah, have my 2018 octavia now as works car, and 99 V70 that hasn't been used for a month

[clear ferry]

We have average price of NOK3.70 per kWh some places today

Still cheaper with an EV than petrol

[last cedar]

Ouchies

[clear ferry]

Was 27.53 per liter yesterday when I was out driving

[last cedar]

I will need solar before my cheap electric contract goes out

Is that for 95?

[clear ferry]

I've considered solar, still on the fence, it will increase house value even if I choose to move

Yes, 95

[last cedar]

Wowzers

Diesel is about 26 sek here, closer to 23 for 95

I need 10 liters for my lawnmower

[clear ferry]

It shifts between 22-28 on a daily basis

[last cedar]

Will be cheaper to buy a sheep

Ours has been fairly steady, strange that your prices are so volatile

[clear ferry]

Sheeper to buy a cheap

[last cedar]

Yes

[clear ferry]

Sorry, was practicing my American English average grammar

[last cedar]

And get to eat it when it dies

Win win

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/shishiro-botan-head-banging-vibing-jamming-grooving-gif-25075454

[last cedar]

Everything is just so expensive!

[clear ferry]

Norwegian Central bank expects pay raises for everyone next 12 months

I'm gonna nag for 10% this year

[dusky plank]

me: please send me a api key

2nd level support: sends screenshot

with shortened api key

ffs

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/maybe-i-will-eric-cartman-south-park-s21e2-put-it-down-gif-20402265

[clever mortar]

Could have been worse, they could have used a phone to take a picture of the screen...

[last cedar]

I got 1000 sek on 34500

So no where near inflation

[clear ferry]

I requested 6% got 7.2% this spring

[last cedar]

I need to get an interview at another place, and squeeze their balls

[finite atlas]

they might like that..
got bored with your new job?

[finite atlas]

because supply decreases and demand increases, the hard working people are slowly getting to old to keep working

[last cedar]

Everyone else needs to stop buying stuff, to make my life easier and cheaper then

[finite atlas]

Yes!

[turbid stirrup]

What is this "stop buying" thing you're talking about Michelle?

never heard of it

just figured I'd take a look to see if amazon prime days had any decent offer
ewwww
what a sucky sucky webshop
no filters whatsoever

[clear ferry]

I currently work 50%, working 20% next 5 months, then working 80% for the next 2 years @turbid stirrup

With 100% pay throughout of course

[clear ferry]

Excuse me

[static schooner]

Looks like something from a Dick Tracy comic from the 1950s

[orchid rose]

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52211883534_15fc4894e2_k.jpg

I'm sure a lot of people have seen these already, but NASA released the first pics from the Webb telescope

quite a difference to the older ones https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/main_image_stellar_death_s_ring_miri_nircam_sidebyside-5mb.jpg

[forest edge]

why does this space look more and more like cluttered shit every time you post it?

dead serious, i am willing to bet money anyone willing to go back through chat history and post every one of his pictures of this space in order it will get more and more cluttered with each picture

[clever mortar]

Better cameras == more detail

[static schooner]

eventually he'll have to stand outside and poke at stuff with a long stick

[clever mortar]

After all

(Pluto, for reference)

https://petapixel.com/2015/07/16/this-is-how-our-photos-of-pluto-have-improved-over-the-years/

[forest edge]

that's not a picture of pluto in 1996, that's the wireframe without the texture pack from the moon in Wolfenstein

[cunning onyx]

New Wolfenstien game set on the moon confirmed.

[clear ferry]

Well, they already were at the Nazi moon base in The Old Blood

And i loved that mission

[floral folio]

Any good Amazon Prime day deals?

[finite atlas]

Saving your money, thats the real deal.

[floral folio]

Hah.

[forest edge]

the samsung and wd 1tb nvme are decently priced for today only

the 2.5ssd 1tb wasn't bad either

[orchid rose]

According to a local tech forum, from .de apparently some good deals are Nvidia Shield, Flir One, Braun electric razors, 32" QHD samsung, MSI 32" QHD, WD Black, Sony Dual Sense, 16TB external WD HD, Crucial 16/32 gigs, Echo Dot,

[forest edge]

shield is still shit priced imo

[floral folio]

That reminds me, I really need to get around to selling my Nintendo Switch.

Also is there a forum somewhere to sell off/market place used smart home stuff?

I've got a bunch of Zigbee things I don't need anymore and some Athom bulbs I haven't been super thrilled with the warm white side.

[clear ferry]

I just give away older stuff I don't use anymore

To friends and family

[forest edge]

ebay. or better yet, check if you have a craigslist option where you live

[clear ferry]

getkilledbyrandolist

[forest edge]

@clear ferryprime day has hemorrhoid treatment cream at 72% off, you can stock up now

[clear ferry]

Don't need to, have it already, both cream and suppositories

[forest edge]

you would have suppositories

[clear ferry]

sudo apt-add suppositories missouri/sodoma

[forest edge]

norwegian butt stuff..

wish the amazon fire crap wasn't crap. they do such good deals on thier own stuff

[forest edge]

these ev youtube videos where these youngins praise their experience with their ev's over th course of 3 or so years and then talk about all the warranty crap and out of warranty crap they had to pay for as if the "number" of shit needing repair or replaced was some good low number for that amount of time cracks me up

meanwhile my gas guzzler goes like 15 years before I have to replace anything

[finite atlas]

what crap did they had to replace?

[umbral cliff]

The car

To be fair if the ev was a Tesla it makes sense

[finite atlas]

xD

just buy a cityel

[umbral cliff]

I’ll buy an ev when my current car dies presuming there’s a decent charging network

My car is just at 95,000kms and is 22 years old. It’s got time left in it

[forest edge]

just odds and ends, what you would kind of expect from a more modern car. control switches and what not

charger door was one thing

[finite atlas]

oh yeah, so modern nonsense stuff

[forest edge]

windows switch was another, and some kind of cpu for something

[finite atlas]

its a shame that the majority of modern cars come with such crap..

[forest edge]

as the old saying goes.. the more bells and whistles the shorter it lasts

needing to fix/replace something on a vehicle every year, multiple times a year is not a good sign

course this person also talked like the ev's lifespan was only 10 years so maybe that's why they think it was "good" lol

[finite atlas]

life is fun when stuff is so expensive you cant buy anything useful anymore

[clear ferry]

This is why we love 7 year warranty @forest edge

That said, for example EVs being cheaper then ICE the choice is usually easy

[turbid stirrup]

Meh
With conventional cars there were also some people who were shit out of luck and needed many repairs
I'd be interested to see statistics.

[clear ferry]

Tesla definitely pull down the EV quality overall

Biggest problem in Norway with the EVs being as subsidized as they are, if there is any collision damage they just get wrecked because repairing them isn't financially viable

Speaking of

I'm insanly impressed by the auto pilot in the Volvo, I can drive for miles not touching the accelerator or breaks, and only hold my hands in the wheel while watching two whining kids

Also very good in traffic jams

[forest edge]

only because norwegians are a glutten for punishment putting themselves in a corner being electrical dependent

[clear ferry]

Sorry, can't take electrical service advice from a country with coal power plants

[forest edge]

technically though, if you really crunch the numbers and factor in repair cost and reliablity as well as average lifespan, fuel vehicles would be cheaper

[clear ferry]

In 2021, coal provided 74% of Missouri's electricity net generation, the second-highest share of any state, behind only West Virginia

[forest edge]

the real question is, once enough people buy these throw away ev's would the pollution either offset or ultimatly make evs more polluting

[clear ferry]

The recycling should be better, EU should enforce being able to reuse parts from EVs

Because the manufacturer mostly denies it

[forest edge]

depends on just how much of it actually is recycled

but even still, most fuel cars (can't speak for more current models) will dramatically outlast any ev

that's less waste

[clear ferry]

I'm gonna bet EV sales will be 100% in Norway (for consumers) by 2030, so there is no outlasting to be done

It might even be 2025 as previously announced

But I doubt it

[forest edge]

well of course, your goverment is pushing you to it

then down the road when something happens and electricity goes away you all will be back to riding yaks to work

[static schooner]

Electric yaks

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/kMvMrVRGiag

[clear ferry]

I'd rather buy one of the Chinese EVs over the Tesla that is for sure

The Byd Tang is nice

So is the Nio ES8

And the Honqi ES9

[forest edge]

the chinese battery is completely inferior which is the most important part of the vehicle lol

[clear ferry]

Oh yeah, the batteries are inferior

You are so right

[forest edge]

talking about their mass produced generic, not the one's created for specific purposes

[turbid stirrup]

Meh
It will be much more environment-friendly when there's carbon based batteries rather than lithium ion

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-alter-the-deal-empire-strikes-back-star-wars-gif-15971205

[turbid stirrup]

And hopefully my next ev in a couple of years will have bidirectional charging

[clear ferry]

Apparently the Nissan ev i have will support it

And my charge box is slated to support it

[forest edge]

stop being so polluting just flinstone it

[clear ferry]

But I think only one power vendor does it so far

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/yabba-dabba-doo-car-flintstones-gif-14618105

[clear ferry]

Says the guy with sub 50mpg vehicles

[forest edge]

if your house wasn't made of mud I could at least pull it

my nearly 20 year old truck will still be running long after your second ev dies

[clear ferry]

Doesn't help much when you'll be long gone after not affording an ambulance ride

[forest edge]

ambulance? pssh we aren't norwegian and decalre emergency for a paper cut

wouldn't call for an ambulance now.. fuck that charge

[clear ferry]

You mean 0NOK

[forest edge]

Ambulance = 0NOK
Taxes = 200KNOK
sounds about right

[clear ferry]

Yes, sounds plausible

That said, I do have 300k NOK taxes

[forest edge]

must be to cover the 0NOK peanuts they provide you

[clear ferry]

Damn 30% taxes, but don't have to pay health insurance or sidewalk insurance

[forest edge]

if we can just convince our homeless to move to norway our taxes would be even cheaper

[clear ferry]

That's no way to treat veterans, although it would be an upgrade

[forest edge]

it would be an improvement to norway i agree

lets make it happen

[shadow prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/shhh-shush-silence-nose-gif-17895433

[forest edge]

omg there is a usb mouse jiggler on prime day lightning deal

[lavish scaffold]

it seems like tubeszb ethernet coordinator is out of stock. Do you know of any alternative? Or maybe if he'll restock?

[forest edge]

there is an email listing on the bottom right of his store page, you can always send one and ask

[sand agate]

I had to do that for mine, and I was surprised at how fast he responded and had one to send me

[clear ferry]

We can just ask @sterile ferry directly

Talk about Norwegian overclass stupidity

Due to sas cancellations, a couple took up a loan of $55k

To drive to their vacation destination

And then will sell it when they get back

[sand agate]

https://tenor.com/view/what-huh-wtf-stunned-dumbfounded-gif-7658627

[glacial knot]

sas?

[clear ferry]

Scandinavian airlines services

So they bought a Tesla model 3 to drive to Spain and back again

[glacial knot]

😂

[finite atlas]

in hopes of selling the model 3 for at least the same money?

[clear ferry]

Yes

[finite atlas]

they now have the media attention i guess.. so its not that unlikely

[clear ferry]

Lots of articles lately about _had to spend $15000 extra to get to their vacation destination _

[clear ferry]

Also EVs rise in price $1000 per week for some models

[finite atlas]

dang

i hope you northerns will be able to pay for all the electricity that you need to warm your houses, drive your cars and sell to other european countries

[clear ferry]

My friend up north with the same size house/family as me paid €30 for power in June, including EV charging

I paid €550

[finite atlas]

yeah, the southern parts are really screwed currently when it comes to electricity
have heard that from many so far

[clear ferry]

We get subsidized back though

I'll probably get €300 or so back

Still a huge difference

[sterile ferry]

I think he did. 😀

[clear ferry]

[finite atlas]

add milk!

[clear ferry]

Usually we do cream

Or vanilla sauce

[orchid rose]

ice cream and strawberries are a match made in heaven

[forest edge]

that makes no sense

you saying the dealers raise the price 1k a week?

scratch that

I literally watched the value of my bike raise over the last few years so I guess shit can be weird

[finite atlas]

even better

[clear ferry]

Market demand = higher price

With 9-14 months delivery time for a new car, used cars are very popular

[forest edge]

the gas prices is the one caveat to making that possible

which is why my bike rose in value

[clear ferry]

Gas prices are surely fueling it to some degree, state subsidizing changing at new year does too, and power prices are quite helpful

[last cedar]

Holy shit

[clear ferry]

[last cedar]

My electric bills are like 1300 sek

Without car charging

[clear ferry]

Since August last year it's been 2100-6300

Per month

[last cedar]

I would imagine an increase of about 300kwh, which would be about 600 sek

With hybrid. 13kWh a day

[next pond]

Hey guys.. Can I use a Zigbee Smart Plug for my Washing Machine or will it kill the plug?

I have 16A Tuya Plugs..

[clever mortar]

Depends on the washing machine, and what country you're in I suspect

[next pond]

I'm located in Germany and it has an Inverter Motor.. I guess I'll try..

[forest edge]

once he said 16A i knew it wasn't the US lol

eastern countries and their weird power

[clear ferry]

Is 16a weird?

We have traditionally had 8/10/13/16/20/25/32/64

[forest edge]

yes that is weird.. why so many steps?

[clear ferry]

Because it makes no sense to put a 64a fuse on a washer

[forest edge]

but a 20A fuse works just fine

[clear ferry]

20/25 is for ovens usually

[forest edge]

a 30A would work just fine

[clear ferry]

Most are 10/16 the last 20 years

Like in my house 16a covers four rooms, 10a covers at least two room

[forest edge]

we have 15A(which quite frankly could be discontinued imo) 20A, 30A and 50A as the main. I think there are 40A breakers for some use cases but those top 4 are pretty much the only sizes in the majority of US homes

[clear ferry]

Yeah, 110v is some subpar nonsense

[forest edge]

yea normalizing and standardizing devices with current is subpar

more like you guys saw what we were doing and instead of actually thinking it through you thought more would somehow mean better lol

the more complex means more advanced right?

[clear ferry]

Usually yes

[forest edge]

you probably gotta click through a 10 minute series of button clicks just to get your kettle to turn on too

[next pond]

We have 230V here..

[clear ferry]

The superior voltage yes

[static schooner]

For...dying!

[clear ferry]

That sounds like some Westinghouse propaganda

[static schooner]

The only solution is DC

[cedar chasm]

The size of fuses is relative to what the cabling can handle in terms of heat production or the other way around

not sure what the codes are in the states

[clear ferry]

Probably just fuck it, I've seen their knot and tie wiring

[cedar chasm]

my prejudice suggests an NRA-style organisation causes a stink so there are barely any

[forest edge]

I mean compared to your..

https://miro.medium.com/max/1200/1*C4lmNlVYI9N7hGDCMzM6DQ.jpeg

[cedar chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/westworld-dolores-itdoesntlooklikeanythingtome-gif-18393363

[clear ferry]

Someones found a picture from Vietnam

[forest edge]

https://www.familyhandyman.com/list/cable-and-wire-basics/#:~:text=Wire Gauge&text=The most common sizes you,or even 6-gauge wire.

i don't have a single 14ga strand of wire in my house

[glacial knot]

now I wonder how good the resistance would be if I tied my wires together with a good knot o.0

[finite atlas]

now calculate it in german 45c/kWh prices 🥰

we are so screwed

[orchid rose]

Same market, similar prices. We're all on the same boat here

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/well-yes-but-actually-no-well-yes-no-yes-yes-no-gif-13736934

I got a fast price for 3 year contract, so I pay about 5/9ths of the average hourly price

So I have it so much better than most

[static schooner]

they converted to Celcius?

[orchid rose]

I'm currently paying 3.99c/kWh while the market price is 50c/kWh. I'm not complaining

[last cedar]

My plan is to have panels before that contract runs out, depending on 2 factors ... if the improvement of the north south electric link in Sweden is started and/ or new nuclear is in the pipeline

[orchid rose]

I was surprised to read about the north-south-divide in sweden. It works for us I suppose

[clear ferry]

I think the ratio to fixed / spot price here is like 3/97

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/psLm_Uwh3oc

[forest edge]

funny all this time I was unaware the full self driving for tesla required a monthly subscription

that doesn't even sound right. tesla is using people as free beta testers and data collection... how do you charge someone for the data you collect from them? lol

[static schooner]

and imagine when your subscription runs out when you're only halfway there!

[forest edge]

i always thought the basic self driving came with the car

thought the subscription was for the beta features