the-water-cooler

[forest edge]

that is not an option for everyone

and that's my point

this movement is being pushed where there is no foundation in place to support everyone equally

[umbral cliff]

My company promotes office work especially for new joiners (because meeting people, socialising, etc) especially post covid. But there’s no requirement to work in the office.

Hell we don’t even have enough room in the office for 10% of the employees in Canberra (500 or so people)

[umbral cliff]

Surprise surprise capitalism never had equality anyway

[clear ferry]

I would say almost everyone is in favour of hybrid office here, and even if I'm technically hybrid office I'm only out of my home 1 day a week at most

[umbral cliff]

Remember as well electricity & gas bills are increasing, which is going to be more at home then

Nothing is equalising there

[forest edge]

your joking right

[umbral cliff]

Ah so governments should invest more into public transport as well

[forest edge]

not even going to comment on that lol

[umbral cliff]

That electricity and gas prices are going up? Nope

[forest edge]

you don't use enough for that to be an issue to begin with

you cannot compare your laptops draw on power to the gas spent in your car

[umbral cliff]

You’re kidding right? Heaters are electric and use energy, that’s not a small amount

[clear ferry]

laughs in 35k kwh per year power usage

[glacial knot]

running an exchange doesn't count as personal use of energy

[glacial knot]

don't forget that all you are doing is feeding a troll

[umbral cliff]

Oh I know. It’s funny to tease the troll

He gets worked up

[forest edge]

regardless if it exists in your town, city, country or even if you are just unaware of it. between covid and the wth movement there has been serious negative impacts on the work force to the point where here I see it everywhere i go

[umbral cliff]

What negative impacts exactly

[forest edge]

you mean aside from companies unable to find workers?

[umbral cliff]

If they’re not paying people enough then that’s an issue

[forest edge]

that it's own ball of shit

[umbral cliff]

And if petrol is going up they should be increasing their wages

When people can have choice the shittest companies lose workers

[forest edge]

ugh i keep forgetting you live in a fantasy lol

[umbral cliff]

You mean one where people are paid fairly?

[clear ferry]

Wages are defintivly going up in most roles here, at worst they follow inflation year by year

[umbral cliff]

Lmao I forget you live in America where workers rights are about as common as free healthcare

[forest edge]

you sure about that?

maybe in norway..

[clear ferry]

here

for the US the wages have been stagnant for 25 years, we all know that

[glacial knot]

meh. don't bind wages to petrol. General (weighted) inflation basket would be nice at least. But petrol is going to/has been detached from general cost of living for a while. For political reasons. And it's going to get even more so

[umbral cliff]

Currently the inflation rate is around 5%, minimum wage went up by 5.2%. Slightly more than inflation which is good

[umbral cliff]

I agree. Just going with sonoma’s weird argument

[forest edge]

you should get out more. i serious doubt au has it's shit together as well as you claim

[clear ferry]

AU, the gold state

[glacial knot]

5%? For Australia? We have official 8% YoY now here =.=

[forest edge]

like talking to quad about california.. oblivious to everything happening around him lol

[clear ferry]

we are at 5.7%

[umbral cliff]

We held off a lot of inflation thanks to our Covid policy

We’re going to the moon soon

[forest edge]

just what we need.. roo's in space

[umbral cliff]

We have strong workers rights laws. Not a perfect country by far. But at least trying. Unlike the USA which has given up

[forest edge]

you are tailing behind, when you reach our level you'll understand

[umbral cliff]

Your level of worker hate? Of capitalism?

Things can always be fixed. It may take time. It may take effort. Just requires people who actually care

[forest edge]

lol you talking about capitalism

can you even wipe your own ass without having to pay someone by law to do it for you?

[umbral cliff]

You really hate having people get an equal chance don’t you? With these stupid comments

[forest edge]

you brought it up lol

[umbral cliff]

I brought up workers rights

[forest edge]

can you fault another country for something your own is even worse at

[umbral cliff]

Which the USA is seriously lacking

[umbral cliff]

You do it all the time

[forest edge]

that is not a cut and dry thing

you cannot compare our system to yours and vice versa

[umbral cliff]

Ah cannot compare because yours is in a mess

[forest edge]

wrong, I'll i do is show your own isn't something to brag about

[forest edge]

compared to what?

[umbral cliff]

Yours is the country where a worker can be fired for no reason at all. And also where minimum wage can be $2/hr if tips can be found

Plus you guys pay a lot of tax even on your income lol

[forest edge]

no country has an infallible system in place.. not one

[umbral cliff]

That I agree with you on

[forest edge]

you have negatives where we have positives and vice versa

that's the point

[umbral cliff]

Your positive being forcing people to work in an office and our negative being allowing flexi working?

[glacial knot]

I never get why people try to claim that things can't be compared
Most of the time the comparison is really easy. Like, one's magnitudes better than the other 😂

and when not, the comparisons become interesting because it allows to see what might be nice to have from the other side.

[umbral cliff]

Oh yeah I compare to some things in Europe and wish we had it here. Occasionally something from the USA too

[forest edge]

the wth concept originated here.. you know that right? silcone vally was the first and only place in the world who had that as an option since like the 60's

and just like many other things we have had for longer than other countries, we are seeing the long haul effects

you don't see them cause it's new to you

[umbral cliff]

So because Silicon Valley had it, the garbage people are not wanting to work

Yep can definitely see a correlation

You should get a PhD in garbage man sociology

[forest edge]

it's alright, it's your world now. your mess

turn a blind eye the reality all you like

seems to be a growing trend lol

[umbral cliff]

You just sound like a boomer who dislikes change

[forest edge]

you kidding? I get to enjoy all the positives and not have to worry about the negatives

i'

i'll be dead long before you start swimming in ewaste etc

imagine if my generation wasn't like you now.. imagine if we paid attention to the reality of things and was still young enough to work on fixing them

what the world may have been like now

you'll get blamed in your time just as we get blamed now. you cannot escape it lol

@clear ferry need to get you some buc-ee's merch https://youtu.be/XbV4XWpfMyE

[muted bay]

cool to see how temps steadily riseover teh past week, tomorrow will be a heat blast

[umbral cliff]

Pleasant temperature

[clear ferry]

[lunar sundial]

It was 46C here last saturday, wanna swap?

[clear ferry]

Pass

We are getting 24 tomorrow, it suffices

[lunar sundial]

24 is my winter highs 😛

[umbral cliff]

Yes please. It was -3 the other night

[lunar sundial]

we won't dip below 40C until about end of October/mid November 😦

[low harness]

I finally realized why win11 turns off my notifications randomly. It enters focus mode when you fullscreen chrome on all monitors.

[lunar sundial]

doesn't windows 10 do that when you're playing a game too?

or anything full screen?

[umbral cliff]

Yeah you can customise it in settings

Under focus modes

[low harness]

Stupid default. How often do you NOT run a program maximized?

[lunar sundial]

easy fix would be to not use windows anymore 😛

[peak cloud]

@forest edge I have so much Buc-ee’s merch, I might as well be a beaver…

[forest edge]

texans do like their beaver...

[umbral cliff]

I never run something like f11 full screen. Maximised yes though

[peak cloud]

Yes, yes we do. 😃🥰

[umbral cliff]

Don’t often see people run it full full screen

[peak cloud]

Is @clear ferry in Texas or something?

[forest edge]

no, he'd die

hell i bet he was sweating like a mule in north carolina

[clear ferry]

Y'all and your Texas'

[peak cloud]

Texas is my fav. Duh doy.

Thanks for sharing that video @forest edge — that was a great watch. I even teared up a little when he was talking about his dad not being worried anymore.

[forest edge]

do you go there often?

[peak cloud]

Every chance I get. My gf’s son actually just applied at the location in North Fort Worth.

[forest edge]

starting at $15 i bet that place has little trouble finding applicants

[peak cloud]

The closest Buc-ee’s to me is about 45 min away. There’s pretty much at least 1 Buc-ee’s on the way to most of my vacation destinations. My most frequently visited one is Royse City, which is only a couple years old. That one is on the way to my parents’ house.

They are one of the few businesses that I saw flooded with team members during the pandemic.

Random knowledge: they have multiple rotating shifts dedicated to covering parking lots, restrooms, and dusting merch 24/7/265.

[clear ferry]

Dusting merchandise

[forest edge]

ikea does it

[clear ferry]

I've never heard of that

[forest edge]

when you have a lot of stock, you have to

dust dosen't quit for anyone lol

[peak cloud]

Yeah, there is someone scheduled to dust merch 100% of the time, even through the night 😂

[clear ferry]

The actual boxes, or the exhibition?

[peak cloud]

The stuff on the shelves

[forest edge]

states like texas where it's dry most of the time is even worse

[peak cloud]

Dry? Guy, have you ever been to Texas?

[forest edge]

you experince a moist front?

[peak cloud]

Texas if effin humid as hell.

[forest edge]

cause texas has always been dry

didn'

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/beautifully-moist-gif-23635729

[forest edge]

didn't mean the desert although you are close enough lol

[peak cloud]

If you want dry, go to Vegas.

[forest edge]

texas is a big state, you east side north?

[lunar sundial]

perfectly comfortable

[forest edge]

cause you go west it's dry

[peak cloud]

60% humidity ruins your hair as soon as you walk out the door 😂

[forest edge]

lol hair

who has hair these days

[clear ferry]

[peak cloud]

Speaking of hair, I’ve been working on a mullet the past couple of months!

[forest edge]

texas not get the memo?

the 80's is over..

you growing out those mutton chop's as well?

[peak cloud]

I guess you didn’t get the memo…Texas was probably the one to publish the new memo that they’re back.

[lunar sundial]

texas is always a little behind 😛

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/texas-donuts-gun-fire-how-we-make-donuts-gif-16239119

[forest edge]

just do what atx likely did.. shave your head and get a tattoo of a racing stripe down the center

[lunar sundial]

flames on the sides?

[peak cloud]

This was 2 months ago, and I just happened to be wearing my Buc-ee’s easter shirt in the video.

[lunar sundial]

hair is overrated anyways

[forest edge]

wtf.. why does that video exsist? who was that for? lol

[peak cloud]

Lol, I was trying to see what my gf was laughing about when I shook my head 😂🤣

So, it was for me!

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/big-oof-size-small-medium-switch-gif-17355313

[forest edge]

you look like one of those guys who get's their jeep stuck in a tight canyon and has to call the off road rescue from this channel https://youtu.be/Git76HZKRHI

[lunar sundial]

"hold my beer"

[peak cloud]

Yeah, fuck that noise. I tried Hell’s Revenge in Moab and had several panic attacks. 😕

[forest edge]

lol

[peak cloud]

I don’t do heights.

[lunar sundial]

keep growing it out and you can just glide if you fall man 😛

[forest edge]

look like one of those Alabama hillbillies but in reverse hehe

[peak cloud]

Old man tellin’ some truths!

Maybe that is his secret of how to live long (and prosper…)

[low harness]

Still got a bit to go for a real -80s mullet like this #the-water-cooler message

[peak cloud]

I ain’t trying for a Kentucky Waterfall or anything, just something a little more modern

[forest edge]

https://i.chzbgr.com/full/4566261504/h0C24534D/style

[clear ferry]

No fair posting pictures of @green inlet

[green inlet]

Jorts…. My favorite summer attire.

[clear ferry]

A NC staple

[green inlet]

@peak cloud , can we really call 60% humidity 🤣

[peak cloud]

Not in Texas…that’s dry for Texas!

[green inlet]

Ok, good cause this is in my AC home

[green inlet]

I mean, they are comfortable, fashionable, they maintain the package, and pockets, pockets, pockets

[static schooner]

I am an unapologetic fan

Don't be a slave to fashion

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/ZkxX.gif

[clear ferry]

Doesn't count when you put your sensor under the sprinklers

[last cedar]

What sprinkles?

[clever mortar]

Chocolate. Always chocolate.

And hundreds-and-thousands

[last cedar]

Works well with ice cream too

https://tenor.com/view/donut-pink-sprinkles-face-funny-gif-8788293

[clear ferry]

https://i.redd.it/wv1hrviyqy591.jpg

[forest edge]

https://i.imgflip.com/qd7rk.jpg

[clear ferry]

I'm fine with 24c tomorrow

I'm dying at night

I prefer my bedroom at 5c

[forest edge]

lol 40

prob takes you 30 minutes to load up all those yak furs ontop of yourself every night

[clear ferry]

Btw @umbral cliff

[clear ferry]

Interesting @last cedar just had a gander at my total power cost

2020, 3400NOK
2021, 31000NOK
2022, 26000NOK ytd

[last cedar]

That shit is crazy

Most of 2021s power cost was like the last 3 months right?

[clear ferry]

The last one accounted for two

[umbral cliff]

That’s insane power money

[magic storm]

my heating (only heating) went from 1800E to 3100E between 2021 and 2022, without any increase in volume... so yes that's insane.

[clear ferry]

If this trend keeps up I'll go from 31k to 60k in 2022

But state subsidize parts of it

[finite atlas]

we pay roughly the same for power + heating, while consuming just 1/8th

[fallen mantle]

Just managed to snag 6x BNIB Philips Hue 1600lm Colour Ambiance bulbs for $200. Here in Aus they're going for $110 each at the cheapest so I'm feeling pretty chuffed.

[clear ferry]

I've given up hue, overpriced and high failure rate for me

[umbral cliff]

If you get them on discount at least it’s not the first point lol

[clear ferry]

Yeah, could still buy quite a few tradfri for that amount

Or other brands

Namron and gledopto have better rgb at reasonable prices

But I only use CT anyway

[glacial knot]

I don't have the failure rate. But yes, ikea is ilke 1-3 for the same price

[fallen mantle]

Ikea run 800lm though. I'm not bothering with dim lights any more.

[clear ferry]

I never run my lights higher than 75% if I remember correctly, and they dim down to 1% throughout the day

[fallen mantle]

Oh well, different strokes.

800lm doesn't light up my room enough for me to see things properly. 1600lm is nice though.

[clear ferry]

You don't have windows?

[fallen mantle]

You don't have night time?

[clear ferry]

I have quite good night vision

If my 1000lm bulbs are brighter then 20% on the evening I'll burn my eyes for sure

[forest edge]

why 1%? why not off?

[umbral cliff]

At the $200 aud then that’s around 10 bulbs and not the RGB ones. So not toooo different

[clear ferry]

Because they turn off when there is no occupancy? @forest edge

[fallen mantle]

I run my shower and toilet lights at 1% after midnight to avoid ruining my sleep.

[forest edge]

your lights turn on from motion even during the day?

[fallen mantle]

Why wouldn't you have them turn off during the day too?

You seen the cost of electricity these days?

[glacial knot]

atx doesn't have night. He just has winter

[clear ferry]

Are the Ikea bulbs that more expensive in Australia? I haven't paid much more than $7-10 for the CT ones here

[fallen mantle]

Breathing is more expensive here

[umbral cliff]

Yep. $20 for the e27 800lmn ones

[clear ferry]

Jesus

[glacial knot]

ouch

[clear ferry]

Y'all bonkers

[glacial knot]

down under with the price gauging

[umbral cliff]

Not terrible for what other stuff exists in australia lol

[fallen mantle]

Nope, actually AUD$30 for the 800lm CT ones now.

[umbral cliff]

We get it a lot

[fallen mantle]

So 6 806lm CT ones for $200

[umbral cliff]

I read the website and still went $20. I am blind lol

[clear ferry]

I bought 3 of them in the cheap corner at IKEA for $10 last week

[umbral cliff]

Tbh same logic I do in store anyway to pretend it’s not hurting my wallet

[umbral cliff]

Ah yeah the cheap corner. Problem is no one returns them

[forest edge]

magichome, $10 a bulb

has CT

[clear ferry]

I've bought 15 of my 80 bulbs there probably @umbral cliff

[fallen mantle]

I wanted the Gledopto 1600lm ones but they're impossible to find down here.

[fallen mantle]

80 bulbs? Do you live in a mansion?

[clear ferry]

Only 255m²

[fallen mantle]

Quadruple storey with basement?

[clear ferry]

Pretty small by norwegian standard

Three floors including basement

[forest edge]

it's a single room

[fallen mantle]

That's it.

[forest edge]

he just has them everywhere like a studio

likes to pretend he does motion capture

[fallen mantle]

You can't say 255m² without mentioning 3 storey and basement lol

That's like saying you live in an apartment but it happens to be the entire top floor penthouse suite

[clear ferry]

Most houses here these days are 350+ and 3 floors has been default since the 60s

[fallen mantle]

In Aus we like to live on the ground floor. Second floor is scary so we don't do it.

Basement? That's below ground where the bugs live.

[forest edge]

still don't get the %1 thing, is that because your automation/bulbs cannot turn off? can't automate them to do so? or is it just always a little dark in norway as God intended?

[clear ferry]

No

Because I want dim light

Until I go to bed

[forest edge]

so you do turn them off at some point

[umbral cliff]

He did say that

[forest edge]

oh did he?

[clear ferry]

I did

When there is no occupancy they turn off

That includes going to bed

[forest edge]

lol

[fallen mantle]

Speaking of occupancy, can't wait until the bloody FP1 is on bulk-sale on Aliexpress

[umbral cliff]

Just make your own

[fallen mantle]

Not with the price of parts here. Maybe back in the day when Dick Smith and Jaycar weren't all consumer based crap.

[clear ferry]

What is the fp1 ?

[fallen mantle]

Millimeter-wave presence detection

[umbral cliff]

You realise you just order the parts on AliExpress anyway right

[fallen mantle]

Basically it can detect even tiny movements so it'll tell you if someone is in the room, with way more accuracy than a standard PIR sensor.,

[umbral cliff]

The only useful thing from Jaycar or whatever is not having to wait for shipping

[clear ferry]

Oh never touched that, most obscure presence detection I've worked with was IR

[fallen mantle]

It's like PIR on steroids. No need to use bayes sensors or anything to determine occupancy any more. Unless you're dead still it'll know you're there. Good for things like TV room where you'll sit for a long time.

[glacial knot]

use presence detection to track your "workout" 😉

[umbral cliff]

It’ll still detect you being dead lol. Not until it realises that object lives there

[clear ferry]

Good thing about IR tracking was it knew if you were dead, because the tracker also saw if the person was horizontal

[fallen mantle]

I use weight sensors on the bed to detect if I'm horizontal heh

[clear ferry]

We used it to monitor health staff in a psychiatric ward

[fallen mantle]

Do health staff in psych wards often go dead?

[clear ferry]

Or unconscious

Yes

[fallen mantle]

What a killer job

[clear ferry]

Yes, i do love entering areas with dual sluices

[fallen mantle]

A channel of water controlled by a gate?

What?

[clear ferry]

We use the same word for two sets of doors where there is no passback and where the first door has to be closed before the second opens as you would use for canals

No idea if that is the English norm

[fallen mantle]

Oh right. Never heard that called that.

[umbral cliff]

Would probably be nicknamed an airlock or similar because it does the same

(Same in principle)

[fallen mantle]

Or the simple "security doors"

We're basic down here.

[clear ferry]

We just say sluse

@last cedar is British, she probably knows

https://tenor.com/view/stephen-colbert-tea-sassy-teacup-posh-gif-3535629

[fallen mantle]

Have you ever taken a laser pointer into the ward to see if you can get a reaction akin to that of a cat?

[umbral cliff]

I like to say practical with our choices of word

[clear ferry]

Well, I've had a pasient consume a calling button, does that help?

[fallen mantle]

Servo, bottleo, traino, Woolies. It's all relative.

[forest edge]

umm it don't considering you already tell us you eat anything as is

[umbral cliff]

Did the button trigger by hitting their stomach

[fallen mantle]

Or did you have to gut punch them to get help?

[clear ferry]

Hey, leave my raw meat alone

[umbral cliff]

Never heard of traino, when the word train exists lol

[fallen mantle]

Train station. Like petrol station.

[clear ferry]

Since the wire was sticking out of the wall still, sadly no

[umbral cliff]

Never heard that lol

[fallen mantle]

It's the place trains stop at to pick up passengers.

[last cedar]

Let me grab acup of tea and have a think about it

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/wanker-fuck-off-magdalen-burns-gif-14867078

[umbral cliff]

I know that silly. I said never heard traino

[fallen mantle]

Do you have your kettle licence for that there cup of tea?

[glacial knot]

is traino to the train what steve O is to normal steves?

[fallen mantle]

A bit more bogan? Yep.

Bet Google just got a small influx of people searching up what bogan means.

[glacial knot]

nah, we use DDG

[fallen mantle]

Which pulls results from Google anyway.

[last cedar]

Sluss

I think it is called a sluss

Edit I am an idiot

Sluice

[fallen mantle]

Wish the financial year would hurry up and end. I want my tax rebate so I can buy drives to fill out my server.

[forest edge]

for you oppressed who don't get to celebrate having freedom https://youtu.be/KQvpLPOOQaI

[glacial knot]

More Bing that google

[umbral cliff]

Only 2 months to go (by the time your employer chucks your pay on the system)

[fallen mantle]

Nah mine is good enough to do it first week 😄

[umbral cliff]

By the time the rest of your stuff gets processed in tjough

*though

[fallen mantle]

What rest of my stuff?

[umbral cliff]

Shares, private health insurance, interest from savings, etc

[fallen mantle]

Literally have none of that

Well savings interest I can get in 10 mins

[umbral cliff]

That makes it easy thrn

[fallen mantle]

Yep. Usually have my return by the 20th.

And then it's on to get another 64TB of disks.

[umbral cliff]

I’m unsure how long my employer will take, but I know Centrelink (from when I was on youth allowance last year) will take an age to appear lol

[fallen mantle]

2023 returns might be due before they get back, knowing how efficient our gov is lol

[umbral cliff]

The gov is surprisingly efficient when they’re given deadlines

[fallen mantle]

Just not when they have to pay money out

[umbral cliff]

Ehh the ato is very fast at paying back

[fallen mantle]

Yeah even during the busy period of July it's not bad tbh

I've seen it as quick as 5 days after submitting, in July.

[umbral cliff]

Yeah I’ve had my refund within 2-3 days after everything appears

[fallen mantle]

On that topic, hopefully I can get my server up and running within a month or two

128TB of HDD, 4TB of SSD.

[clear ferry]

NAME         SIZE  ALLOC   FREE  CKPOINT  EXPANDSZ   FRAG    CAP  DEDUP    HEALTH  ALTROOT
Storage     36.3T  28.2T  8.06T        -         -    17%    77%  1.00x    ONLINE  -
Storage2TB  5.44T   171G  5.27T        -         -     4%     3%  1.00x    ONLINE  -
Storage6TB  16.4T  2.21T  14.2T        -         -     8%    13%  1.00x    ONLINE  -
rustr1      2.17T   583G  1.60T        -         -     0%    26%  1.00x    ONLINE  -
ssdz1       14.0T  3.11T  10.9T        -         -     4%    22%  1.00x    ONLINE  -

Still waiting on customer to free me some drives

They are gonna throw away 48 4TB SSDs and 96 1.2TB HDDs

plus shelves

so I said I'll pick them up

Loving my rsnapshot backups still

eirikz@mirai /mnt/rustz1/testez
 % sudo du -hc --max-depth=0 *
189G    daily.0
4,9G    daily.1
4,8G    daily.2
4,8G    daily.3
5,1G    daily.4
4,7G    daily.5
4,9G    daily.6
738M    weekly.0
5,1G    weekly.1
4,9G    weekly.2
229G    total

[umbral cliff]

Wanna come give some to me

[dusky plank]

They get shredded where i dabble 😭

[clear ferry]

They usually do

But not this customer

[last cedar]

You don't need them all....

How much do you want for the ssds?

Each

In doormats

[clear ferry]

2.56 doormats per GB

[hushed basalt]

Do you pay more or less if the doormats have human blood on them

[clear ferry]

Less, other bodily fluids, more

[hushed basalt]

https://c.tenor.com/21BcR-btBEMAAAAM/mark-wahlberg-ted.gif

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/theres-an-aroma-stinks-smells-bad-gross-smelly-gif-15844913

This you @forest edge ?

[static schooner]

The other weird part is the original tweet is not the real Neil DeGrasse Tyson, but the post is very on-brand for him

Like a parody account without the...parody

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/inception-deeper-go-deeper-we-need-to-go-deeper-leonardo-di-caprio-gif-16756828

[last cedar]

What about if your blood is on them, I guess that means they are free???

[clear ferry]

[clear ferry]

You like my fridge magnets @last cedar

[shadow prawn]

Mstone is back

[clear ferry]

He never left

He just took a fourteen year vacation

Someone actually took my reference

Jesus fucking Christ

[dusky plank]

https://tenor.com/view/exterminador-do-futuro-gif-20118743

I just recently landed in a very weird and toxic telegram bubble, its fun

[clever mortar]

Toxic, and fun

[dusky plank]

nazis fighting with other nazis, constant doxxing and live fights. it's like a car accident, you can't look away

oh and lots of rammstein https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct6sH7U1LgI

[last cedar]

I want them all!!!

[clear ferry]

Did someone say Rammstein

https://tenor.com/view/rammstein-rammqueens-gif-21322349

[dusky plank]

https://tenor.com/view/till-lindemann-dicken-titten-lindemann-dance-gif-25800902

[clear ferry]

Wife would leave me for till Lindemann in a heartbeat

Heck, I would leave me for till Lindemann

[glacial knot]

But does she have dicke titten?

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/till-lindemann-ach-so-gern-hit-gif-23795106

[dusky plank]

Why don‘t we live like this?

[gusty belfry]

Found the loudest voice assistant while replacing soffit vents.

[real tinsel]

hi, can anyone help me to mount a disk?

in proxmox

right now doing grep

/dev/sdb2 on /mnt/ext-usb2 type exfat (rw,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,iocharset=utf8,errors=remount-ro)

but I cannot do chmod on it :S

[forest edge]

no that person was way too nice about pointing out the posters mistake

[forest edge]

@clear ferryis your living room light the ikea deathstar?

[clear ferry]

Pretty sure exfat doesn't support posix permissions, so it is normal

[clear ferry]

https://i.redd.it/0tyyz4d2ea691.gif

[forest edge]

@clear ferry#the-water-cooler message

[clear ferry]

Yes

[forest edge]

I had thought so, this caught my eye because I thought you had that thing lol https://github.com/Mariusthvdb/custom-icons

[forest edge]

you don't want an ikea deathstar logo representing your light in HA?

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/-gzYtex0rMA

[last cedar]

I found something very similar in a shopping mall about 6 years ago, was equally as funny

[cedar chasm]

her brothers are down the hatch, entering the numbers.

https://tenor.com/view/back-to-blue-support-usa-united-states-of-america-i-support-blue-gif-17500483

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-computer-typing-fast-typing-anime-fast-computer-typing-gif-24911240

[gusty belfry]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/77710284621357056/987479697703206932/VID_20220617_160656.mp4

[fiery sorrel]

hello people :)
I am looking for someone who like regex, i'm sure there is at least one in here :P
I have this thing, i want it to match a space between 2 word :
(?=[a-zA-Z0-9]) (?=[a-zA-Z0-9])

But it doen't match anything in the string
aaaaaaa aaaaaaa
On the other hand,
(?=[a-zA-Z0-9])b(?=[a-zA-Z0-9])
Does match b in
aaaaaaabaaaaaaa

i need closure ! :P

[clever mortar]

https://www.debuggex.com/

[fiery sorrel]

yea i tried regex101 already :( i'll look into this one but i'm not confident

[clever mortar]

Of course, you're looking for one character

(?=[a-zA-Z0-9]+) (?=[a-zA-Z0-9]+)
``` is possibly what you wanted?

[fiery sorrel]

would i be this dumb ...

ok no ! still nothing 😅

[clever mortar]

Do you mean ?=?

[fiery sorrel]

because i didn't put any $ or ^ it bothered by the number of letter

[clever mortar]

Is it really that you want a positive lookahead?

[fiery sorrel]

yup

i want to mach a space, and only a space

the fact that this work with a letter rather than a space make it look like space is considered special

oh, if i remove the number in the lookahead and put a number in place of a space it nolonger work ...
So it only match if the first lookahead match it ...
I'll re-read about lookahead because this doesn't fit what i've read years ago

this doesn't work as i want because i will match a space even if there is many before, but i give me something more to read about ... i'll try to understand where i'm fu*****g up :)

\b( )\b work for my usecase :)

[shadow prawn]

Time to raise michelle

[clear ferry]

https://i.redd.it/adpvz8rc0e691.png

[orchid rose]

sad

Can't we just equally distribute that temperature or is that too un-american?

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/vGPwDxQzUeY

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-crazy-selfdefeating-gif-14959452

[static schooner]

nom nom nom...brain freeze

[shadow prawn]

Oh no, my first hue motion sensor has an empty battery

[last cedar]

Fill it up then

[restive vapor]

Why can't them be wired

[cunning onyx]

@last cedar https://youtube.com/shorts/lApnqSPxQGo?feature=share

[hushed basalt]

@clear ferry lol this DIN mount

[shadow prawn]

Its over three years old and it gots it first battery. Now at 21%

[hushed basalt]

Does anyone elses kids never forget anything you promised them

Like my daughter is 3

But if you say "we'll go to the pool next week" or something

She'll ask about it a week later

She's like a lawyer

[clear ferry]

Lol netgate

What a shitty company

Horrible employees too

[forest edge]

how would you know? date some of them?

[junior burrow]

Sounds like you better have a notepad and write anything you promise 🤣

[clear ferry]

https://github.com/rapi3/pfsense-is-closed-source
https://www.hexbear.net/post/97212

Etc etc

[forest edge]

it's a company trying to make money

the whole point of opnsense was to "clone" pfsense

I have ran both, currently on opnsense but pfsense still does a better job at many things over opnsense because opnsense can't recreate everything as they continue to try

the only thing I dislike is that netgate is targeted for commercial and thus is priced accordinng so it puts them in line with unifi with under hardware at premium prices

[clear ferry]

Netgate tried to kill opnsense for years using very ..... Unorthodox means

https://www.reddit.com/r/BSD/comments/7go6i6/pfsense_slanders_opnsense_with_fake_domain_and/

[forest edge]

i mean opnsense is a complete ripoff..

[clear ferry]

It is the actual open source firewall yes

[forest edge]

a complete ripoff clone of pfsense

well not complete

they couldn't clone everything lol

your just biased cause pfsense is us based while opnsense is eu based

[hushed basalt]

I ask the court to please observe exhibit B in the subpoenaed document page 6 paragraph 12 where the accused promised me ice cream

[last cedar]

This is accurate. My daughter reminds me about that time in 1834 that I promised to play minecraft with her, but couldn't because my doormat supply ran out and I had to get more

[last cedar]

You monster

I just like that OPN doesn't make a massive fuss to deface pfsense, and isn't run by knob heads

[forest edge]

opnsense has no foot to stand on to make a fuss tho...

[last cedar]

Only had this happen at a doormat stealing convension, it was annoying with all the poo in the fur

[last cedar]

Kind of the point really! I am glad we agree on that.

[forest edge]

the point of when you ripoff someone else you have no grounds to complain? lol

try convincing @clear ferry of that..

[last cedar]

It isn't a rip off though. That would be like saying that one linux distro was a rip off from another.

They are basically the same end product, I prefer the opn ui, and the developers are not wankers, so it is fine for me

[forest edge]

technically one distro is a ripoff from another it's just both sides are opensource

and if you really boiled it down, opnsense dev's took a paid product and cloned it as much as they could then opened their own hardware store to try and compete with pfsense.. isn't that the definition of a wanker? lol

[last cedar]

We clearly seem to have differing opinions, I was unaware of what you say the opn dev did though. Probably best to talk about something else, I hate arguing.

[forest edge]

you should read opnsense's about me page if you are having trouble

[finite atlas]

The whole point of opnsense is, to have an actual open sauce firewall.
pfSense is propriotary software, falsely broadly labled as open sauce.

[last cedar]

What if I can't read, is there a "translate to raccoon" button somewhere?

[forest edge]

pfense already announced they were no longer going the route of open sorce

the open source aspect is irrelevant to the point that one is a clone of the other

[finite atlas]

If i go to pfSense's Webpage, i already get lied at twice in the webside header. "Worlds most trusted open source firewall"
Its not open source and thus also not the most trusted open source firewall.

[forest edge]

that is your opinion

so you are not being lied to

pfsense is actually very popular with many commercial buisnesses

if you read around, you'll see one trending thing about pfsense support being one of the most revered

so obviously some people think highly of them

[finite atlas]

Its not an opinion, its a straight fact.
pfSense is not open source
since its not open source, it cant be the most trusted open source firewall

a more true statement would be, "Worlds most trusted firewall software" or "Worlds most trusted proprietary firewall"

And yeah, its a great software firewall, with its fair shares of advantages and disadvantages over competitors. But being blatantly lied at into your face, is a big disadvantage to me, making the company very untrustworthy.

[forest edge]

are you confusing the CE version vs the plus?

considering opnsense started as a flat out fork.. pfense was obviously fully open source at one point lol

[finite atlas]

I highly doubt, that the CE version is fully open source aswell.

[forest edge]

don't think something has to be 100% to be considered open source

i haven't really dived down that rabbit hole, had no reason too

but i do know this blanket complaint about open source vs not is dumb. it's a for profit compnay

of course they would try and protect some of thier investment lol

[finite atlas]

Imo it has to be compliable from the open source to the same useability, as the version given to download to deserve the lable open source.

[forest edge]

well they are cutting the CE part so you shouldn't have any more reason to complain lol

[glacial knot]

MS does it properly with vscode. Even if their name shenanigans are super annoying

they call vscode based on code. And specify which changes they do for their proprietary binary deliverable. Though obviously don't do so via patches, just rough prose

[finite atlas]

Or Chrome & Chromium.
Chromium is open sauce, Chrome isn't. Yet Chrome has by far the most users.

[glacial knot]

I think google isn't quite as open about what the changes are. But it follows the same model, yes

[forest edge]

The only thing i see wrong with pfense is what I listed above about the hardware pricing. the software itself appears pretty solid, more so than opnsense. it has less features but it also has less bugs. i'll continue to run opnsense for as long as it functions but I have no beef with pfsense, hell i get more support questions answered from pfsense users than i do opnsense users for that matter lol

[finite atlas]

The software is definitely solid. The people responsible for it, not so much.

[forest edge]

that sounds very familiar to some of the stuff i read when i first came in here lol

[finite atlas]

Seing atx here, the people denfeitly are not solid :D

He is a very squishy boi

[static schooner]

I haven't been following the pfSense CE vs. Plus saga and it seems like there's no compelling reason right now to migrate

Plus seems a bit like a roach motel - a one-way migration, and then you're locked in

[forest edge]

they are going that full blown commercial target path

guess since they couldn't ditch opnsense they figured may as well leave that scene lol

[static schooner]

they claim that an image will be available for third-party hardware "soon", but not now

so you need to install and migrate from CE if you need to reinstall

for no actual benefit, at least right now

[forest edge]

i would imagine those who aren't willing to pay will just switch over to opn

[static schooner]

it's supposedly still free for home/lab use

[forest edge]

it's shame too cause pfense does so many things right in the ui that opnsense is jkust a nightmare with

[static schooner]

I dabbled with opnsense and decided that it wasn't actually any easier to use than pfSense, so just stayed with what's working

[forest edge]

i switched to opnsense because they were releasing updates faster thinking that was a good thing lol

[static schooner]

I just can't point to anything wrong with pfSense right now - it's just working

and there's quite a lot of support for pfSense online when things go wrong, or I'm trying something new

I looked into Opnsense for Wireguard, and then it came out for pfSense

[forest edge]

that's the other thing, majority of the plugins for opnsense are just ones created for pfense

[clear ferry]

I less than three this comment

[clear ferry]

This

[clear ferry]

Why should anyone recreate the wheel? Most packages for Debian are just repackaged for Ubuntu or any other apt based distribution

[glacial knot]

rebuilt and sometimes with their own backported patches

[clear ferry]

Sometimes

[glacial knot]

ubuntu also has a bunch of stuff packaged in different versions or that aren't in debian at all

[clear ferry]

Yes, and vise versa, but for general stuff, it overlaps a lot

This one made me actually laugh out loud

https://v.redd.it/m3hxwjfzcb691

Reminds me of too many movies I have wasted my time watching

[forest edge]

that was pretty much how i pictured most norwegian movies being like

[clear ferry]

But... That is the plot of 80% of American dramas

[forest edge]

no just all the one's you have access too lol

[dusky plank]

I registered a free domain at https://nic.eu.org/ but it seems they don't support TXT records... so a DNS Challenge for LE is not really a option or do I miss something?

[clever mortar]

They don't support TXT ... is this the 70's?

If you can point to your own/other DNS services (like Route53) then you can solve that problem

[dusky plank]

is Route53 free?

[clever mortar]

No, but for low volume use it's peanuts

I pay about £0.50/month for it

[dusky plank]

I don't really get what that .eu.org service is about, my records should already be propagated but I don't get any A records replied. maybe they ONLY want a NS chained to it and outsorce all of it. Will have to try...

[clear ferry]

That webpage sure looks like Netscape navigator

[dusky plank]

yes sirs, the EU is stuck in the past

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/ich-liebe-dich-gif-20703883

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/yikes-david-rose-david-dan-levy-schitts-creek-gif-20850879

[dusky plank]

yup, it only supports different NS servers. weird but interesting

[finite atlas]

i pay <2€ / year for my .de domain
which i linked to my cloudflare account, where i can set any records i wish to

[dusky plank]

yeah my domains at hetzner are also very cheap, I just wanted to try and get a free .eu.org domain 😄

[finite atlas]

which ones do you have and what do you pay for them?

i see the .de domains, cost over 6 times as much at hetzner, as i pay for mine

[dusky plank]

I pay 10€ for .at / year but have 10 additional free domains to that account

(including .de, .com, .at and the likes)

[finite atlas]

aight, for that price its totally fine

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/-EgrjKh3P4Q

[glacial knot]

Which registrar do you use?

[finite atlas]

he said it 1 message prior

[glacial knot]

oh, Hetzner acts as registrar? I didn't even know that

[fiery sorrel]

i was looking for a 4g box

would you care from 256 sim card ?
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/4G-Sms-Box-256-Multi-Sim_1700003605474.html
What the fluff is that thing

[forest edge]

it's cell carrier distribution box for Norway. that one unit is enough for the current population with room for growth and those little antennas are more than enough to reach from one side of the country to the other

[low harness]

Did you hear the one about watching Hallmark movies backwards? Where a woman leaves her useless boyfriend in some town in the middle of nowhere and becomes a successful lawyer in New York.

[clear ferry]

[young sigil]

Ha WTF?

[finite atlas]

ggwp

he tried his best

[forest edge]

was waiting for the old dial up modem sounds to start

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/abell46s-reface-grito-abell46s-terror-niño-gif-18782949

[clear ferry]

@last cedar

https://gfycat.com/flashyunlawfulape

[static schooner]

from the size of them, it looks like that happens...a lot

[orchid rose]

Those raccoons queue more politely than most humans

[clear ferry]

:%s/most/any

[orchid rose]

Well they don't follow the covid guidelines of giving space. That was the best thing about Covid, you can now often queue without someone breathing on your neck in my Finnish sized personal space

[clear ferry]

Just move to Norway

We queue like you have your adaptive cruise control on five cars distance

[orchid rose]

Sounds like paradise. The only way it could get better is to go with the Hawaiian style queuing where you don't even have to do it but your flips flops do it for you. Might be an urban legend, who knows

[last cedar]

❤️

[last cedar]

That would be all the local raccoons, if we have raccoons

I would be like raccoon grandpa

https://tenor.com/view/mobbed-raccoons-raccoon-sausages-man-gif-19231249

[clear ferry]

https://i.redd.it/42mvx3rqkr691.png

[forest edge]

@clear ferrywhy aren't you making these? https://youtu.be/POdbe-_bYbs

[clear ferry]

Who says I'm not?

[glacial knot]

Mass * Speed = Right of way
so the heaviest goes first. It's obviously true, just look american cars

[clear ferry]

But American cars only come in xl-xxxxxl

[glacial knot]

so they are heavier than others by default

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/fat-bender-futurama-human-wooh-gif-19919438

[forest edge]

video or bs

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze how you liking those $7/gal gas prices?

[clear ferry]

Only 7?

Still at 2014 prices then

[forest edge]

we are talking us dollars.. not norwegian wood chips

[clear ferry]

You mean the general price level in the western world, except the us

[forest edge]

exactly, so you know when prices soar here your in trouble

[umbral cliff]

Also except Australia too. Only recently have we gotten close to those levels

[clear ferry]

I said western world

[forest edge]

the earth is round, everything can be west of you

[clear ferry]

I would have said first world countries

But that would have excluded the US

[forest edge]

typical response from an angry 3rd world country

[tidal bronze]

Well, don't know. Only pump gas every few months. 😆

Uber prices have gone up for sure

[clear ferry]

Now that I only have a hybrid and an electric I pump roughly once a month

[tidal bronze]

I still don't believe in electric, perhaps one day in the future.

[finite atlas]

whats your problem with it?

[forest edge]

https://i.redd.it/5hizt9qp56u51.png

[tidal bronze]

Not worth the money

[umbral cliff]

I only have a petrol car and I only fill that up once a month. Usually only half tank top ups too

[tidal bronze]

Unless you offset all charging with solar, with LA electricity prices, I will stick to good ol gas.

[umbral cliff]

What are the electricity prices for you guys

[tidal bronze]

TOU can range from .21 to .47

[umbral cliff]

Per kWh?

[tidal bronze]

Yes

[umbral cliff]

Also ew TOU

I pay flat rate AU$0.25/kWh, and just got an email saying the price is dropping 1.3%

So I’ll take the tiny saving

So that’s 0.17/kWh usd

[tidal bronze]

That's low season price here.

[umbral cliff]

That’s what I pay all year round

[forest edge]

that's cause california is one big air conditioner going 24/7

[umbral cliff]

Expensive for australia. But thanks to it being all renewable we’re not going up in cost, and instead going down

[umbral cliff]

You say that like australia isn’t

We’re also going through one of our coldest winters on record. So electric heating going crazy

[forest edge]

I would honestly be interested in seeing the total consumption of just the state of california vs the entire country of au

[tidal bronze]

Lol you can compare LA to AU

[umbral cliff]

Well yes there would be a population difference in energy usage, doesn’t mean you can’t compare energy pricing

[forest edge]

does au constantly have grid problems?

cause California does lol

all of that impacts price

[umbral cliff]

We had minor issues a week ago, the government stepped in and forced generators to run

[forest edge]

lol

[umbral cliff]

And also capped the energy price too

[forest edge]

well those poor saps on the west coast have it multiple times a year every single year with no breaks

[umbral cliff]

Sounds like a state or federal government should step in

[forest edge]

they do, but there is only so much that can be done

[umbral cliff]

Is there not enough generation for California

[forest edge]

I dunno what the stats are exactly but they sure do push the limits

all these new fangled technologies and everyone going all in on eletric etc etc

[tidal bronze]

Now they are complaining about too much solar and net metering is going to end soon.

[forest edge]

I just read something the other day that you guys are now hating both wind and solar due to bird deaths

[umbral cliff]

These new fangled technologies include solar & wind which is what is reducing my energy bills

[forest edge]

I didn't even think about solar farms insta cooking birds in the air lol

[forest edge]

death ray lol

[umbral cliff]

@forest edge you ever gonna get solar on your house?

Cut your energy usage

[forest edge]

that's that thing where they direct the heat to melt sodium salt or whatever isn't it?

[tidal bronze]

Yep

[forest edge]

I read they are closing or that thing is closed down

[tidal bronze]

Microwave for birds.

[forest edge]

on my house? no.. I did debate wind for the farm tho

[umbral cliff]

Why no solar?

[forest edge]

panels are a pain

[tidal bronze]

Solar is good but not the battery crap though

[forest edge]

between tornado type weather, solar panel life, added costs to deal with damaged roofs with panels etc

no thanks

wind though, that is possible on the farm but not here at the house

[tidal bronze]

What's a tornado ? Why do you allow them to mess with your roof ?

[forest edge]

like an earthquake but above ground and you can see it

[tidal bronze]

Oh 🤣

[forest edge]

wind farms will most likely go bye bye in many places i am predicting

they keep chopping up eagles and shit and that's not gonna fly

[umbral cliff]

Not in aus. There’s not really a concern here about that stuff

[umbral cliff]

Oh true. Forgot about you guys getting tornados

[finite atlas]

its crap because the companies selling solar stuff (especially batteries) overcharge by a ton

if you want a fair price, you need to get to the sources of the supply chain

you can get <200 usd / kWh new LFP batteries

[tidal bronze]

Natural gas generator is my backup, runs forever and don't need to deal with battery crap.

[clear ferry]

Considering petrol is $12.5 per gallon here, and power prices are average $0.14 per kWh and going down now electric cars is basically free

[tidal bronze]

@clear ferry what's your max daily consumption?

[clear ferry]

Power?

Currently for June

[forest edge]

shit goes off the scale

atx uses more power than vegas

[clear ferry]

I still use 30% less than the average household my size

[tidal bronze]

Damn. 70 aveage

70 to 100 is my summer months.

[clear ferry]

This is summer

Let me give you monthly

Winter is usually 3-3.5 per month, summer is 2-2.5

This winter was mild, so 2.5 max

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/oANmIYaoaG8

[clear ferry]

I've been there

It's nice

You aren't allowed to die there either

[forest edge]

one of the first things she debunked in the video lol

[clear ferry]

It is in their regulations

[forest edge]

the citizenship part is interesting. while governed and controlled by norway, babies born there are not norwegian by default

[clear ferry]

https://polarpedia.eu/en/dying-is-illegal-in-longyearbyen/

[forest edge]

yea same with pregnant women 1 month prior to due day

wonder how power is supplied there

wonder if they only got 4g as well lol

[clear ferry]

They have quite good broadband there

They have a dual fiber connection to my hometown

Think it was 155Mbit in 2004 already

[finite atlas]

they burn coal

[clear ferry]

Fun fact for you

My great great grandfather

Was the first to ship coal from Svalbard to Norway

[finite atlas]

i wonder how the russian settlement there is like

[clear ferry]

Mostly abandoned?

[finite atlas]

Didnt they have two settlements?
The abandoned coal mine city and another one where still some people live?

[clear ferry]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramiden

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barentsburg

[last cedar]

Pain

[static schooner]

there's no way out of that without making a mess

[last cedar]

I know right

Need to get a longer spoon, clearly

[static schooner]

you're definitely going to need to get off the couch

that's the tragedy

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-ice-cream-ice-cream-girl-silly-gif-14793112

[finite atlas]

the frick is that?

[forest edge]

puke bucket?

see red in there, might wanna see a doctor

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-ice-cream-ice-cream-cone-ice-cream-day-gif-21659969

Ii ended up drinking it

[finite atlas]

Thats how i'd have done it aswell to be fair

[static schooner]

The ultimate in laziness. No scooping, just let it melt 🙂

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/think-smart-gif-22411928

[finite atlas]

@static schooner is that behavior appropriate?

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-i-need-an-adult-fit-peter-gif-23683915

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/safemoon-adult-mr-adult-gif-22726823

<disclaimer: not my actual cat>

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/started-blasting-gun-eyeglasses-so-anyway-i-started-blasting-gif-16955226

[dusky plank]

no intentions at all, sharing is caring

[glacial knot]

ah yes, glasses for 115€

[finite atlas]

do they cost more or less in freedom land?

[static schooner]

Depends. There are more online stores now that cost about that, but retail is often much more expensive

[glacial knot]

the lenses in my glasses are already 300€ D:

[static schooner]

Glasses in the US are largely a monopoly of Luxxotica. It's quite the scam

[finite atlas]

i got mine for 80€ in germany and a 2nd pair for "free"

[hushed basalt]

High end optics can be very expensive

But I doubt bulk supplier costs for finished spectacle lenses are in the double digital

Per unit

[finite atlas]

i went with a cheap chassis but good glasses which are extra made

my ex gf however works there and can give me 50% off coupons

links: sph -5,50 cyl -0,50 achse 165 
PD rechts 31,5 PD links 30,5```

[clear ferry]

I paid €500 for my last pair, but that includes 2x glasses (one regular with uv changing glasses and one sun glass pair for driving)

It's gone up a bit, but I used to pay €300 for that combo

[finite atlas]

oh yeah i have the uv coating aswell

[clear ferry]

I used to have +6.25 \ +2.75 when I was younger, these days I have +2.75 \ -0.50 and a lot more astigma

[finite atlas]

ouch

[clear ferry]

Let's just say, I have no natural depth perception

[finite atlas]

i feel you

without my glasses, i can maybe see sharp for 20cm before stuff washes out

[clear ferry]

Eh, I can probably drive without mine, but it isn't great

since one of my eyes is pretty ok

the other eye is just periphial vision

[finite atlas]

i could too, but dont ask me to read any signs even if i pass them

[clear ferry]

I got some terminal glasses last year through work

that helps a lot in the office

[finite atlas]

neato

[clear ferry]

especially with 2x 4k screens

[finite atlas]

yeah i feel u :D
i took a week to get used to my 1440p screen being 30cm further away from me

[clear ferry]

lål

I wish my dock supported 3x 4k

Only 2x4k and 2x1k unfortunatly

I guess I'll upgrade this fall \ next spring

[finite atlas]

why not use a normal pc?

[clear ferry]

Because I haven't bothered building a computer for 14 years, and my work pays for my laptop, that doesn't even run corporate image

[finite atlas]

læl

[clear ferry]

The laptop itself can run 4 4k displays I think

it is the dock that is limiting

but I love the hands free speaker built into it, bang olufsen baby

[finite atlas]

for what do you need so many screens?

[clear ferry]

I love multitasking, and I can easily work on 10-20 servers at once

[umbral cliff]

HP?

[clear ferry]

Yes

HP Dock G2

with the top hands free module

[umbral cliff]

HP are the only laptop/ dock manufacturer who use B&O

[clear ferry]

It has great audio quality, both for mic and speaker

I use it often when I do presentations that I record for customers and partners

Now that I am building my light board I need to use an in ear piece I guess, since the plexi glass will be between me and it

[glacial knot]

They don’t have it In the newer docks :/

[clear ferry]

There is nothing on the G5 dock at least

Not sure about other ones

[glacial knot]

I know that the TB Gen4 doesn’t have one either

It’s almost identical to the USB-C Gen5, just more bandwidth

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/supernatural-jensen-ackles-dean-winchester-dean-spn-gif-5661558

[clear ferry]

Fun fact

I can't cross my eyes

because my brain believes the bad eye is the same as the good eye

so it just follows the good eye

[forest edge]

everyone has a dominate eye while the other mainly provides peripheral/depth perception etc but you have to learn how to control each eye which most people do automatically when they are growing up

[clear ferry]

when the eye doesn't work that doesn't happen

[forest edge]

in the case of eye damage or even severe difference in vision in each eye the dominate eye becomes more apparent

if your vision is so bad in the one eye then it just becomes lame, like you said, it just follows what your good eye does. but that's only because it's not able to be balanced with your vision

I took a toothpick to my left eye when i was a kid, went down that trippy road till it healed and even after than for a long time i had a major difference in vision between each eye

thankfully it healed and was able to be corrected with glasses but the damage is still there so as i get older, i can actually see the diffrence coming back

[clear ferry]

You had toothpicks in 1924 ?

[young sigil]

Can you do those magic-eye 3d thingys? I can't. I suspect it is due to a very slight hypotropia.

[forest edge]

of course.. where else did you think your home building materials came from?

[clear ferry]

I can do it if I force myself for a long period, for 3d movies it has to be the extreme effects for me to see anything @young sigil

[young sigil]

I have been trying for years. Years!

[forest edge]

Amblyopia @clear ferry?

[clear ferry]

Not really

[umbral cliff]

I’ve had lazy eye since I was a child, so one of my eyes is weaker and can sometimes just drift inwards. Makes for some funny photos where that happens

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/crossed-eye-i-see-no-problem-here-gif-16787916

[forest edge]

many kids do, but it's fixable while you are still a kid providing your doctor isn't an idiot. however if ignored it can become permanent

[umbral cliff]

I had it mostly fixed, was a lot more than just many kids do. Was a bit genetic too

Even after trying to train my left eye is still a lot weaker. And even now if I’m tired it’ll drift

[forest edge]

yea well it's all about training the brain so many things can cause it to come back or slip up etc

[umbral cliff]

I appreciate you trying to tell me how my medical condition that I know about & deal with goes

🙄

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/UoH1.gif

[forest edge]

sorry was unaware that condition was just exclusively to you

[forest edge]

@clear ferry norwegian country music huh? https://youtu.be/O81XldQHApg

[clear ferry]

Thought that guy was Swedish

[forest edge]

can't even tell yourselves apart you say?

[static schooner]

Northmen

[orchid rose]

Surprising for an american 😏

Swedes and Norwegians are basically same, just like americans and canadians. They just act like they aren't for some reason

[forest edge]

shows how little you know if you think american's and candians are anything alike lol

[orchid rose]

Hehe, it's just that our views are a bit skewed by the distance (cultural and geographical)

[forest edge]

yea but my remark was in direct response to a local not knowing his own breed lol

[orchid rose]

Can you really tell canadian artists from US ones?

unless they use the word about

[forest edge]

the second a candian opens thier mouth to even cough you can tell

without a doubt

[orchid rose]

without about

[forest edge]

watch some youtube videos, it's unmistakable

[orchid rose]

What gives it away then?

[forest edge]

accent, words as you say and overall attitude

[orchid rose]

Accent and words sure. In the case of that video it's a bit of a moot point since it's in English. What would you say is the difference in attitude? I don't really notice that despite the stereotypes

[forest edge]

there is more diffrence between a candian and an american then a british to an american

[orchid rose]

Hmm, I guess that depends on what you use to measure

[forest edge]

the three things i listed above lol

[orchid rose]

Have you heard the bri'ish accents. You probably wouldn't understand a word Tinkerer said, and I can't blame you

[forest edge]

that's because the skirts flips up in the wind and gets caught in his mouth

[static schooner]

and Scottish is a different thing again

[orchid rose]

I could have used scouser as an example but don't know anyone here

[clear ferry]

Scousers haven't gotten online yet

https://tenor.com/view/scousers-scouser-liverpool-mersey-merseysiders-gif-21510687

[orchid rose]

Who knows, they might have but we just didn't understand them

[static schooner]

TIL:

Definition of Scouser
: a native or inhabitant of Liverpool, England.

AKA The Beatles

[clear ferry]

Americans, don't know British terms

Especially when they don't watch doctor who

[static schooner]

meh, only so many brain cells, gotta prioritize

[cedar chasm]

Important to know the very mainstream term: wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey

[clear ferry]

Ya fookin cu....

[cedar chasm]

I think that one is better studied by watching: The Thick of It

https://tenor.com/view/malcolm-tucker-peter-capaldi-glare-turn-smirk-gif-11814127

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-who-peter-capaldi-slow-dont-be-lasagna-lasagna-gif-5065791

[sleek dove]

hmm, did I just post a picture in here that got deleted? I thought I had posted a picture here, but it isn't here 😉

[tawdry brook]

anybody also having trouble with there Aqara TVOC air quality monitor ? mine keeps dropping of the zigbee network and telling me the batteries are depleted then there on 50% then there on 63% it changes like all the time.

[shadow prawn]

Have you already changed the battery

Aka no support here

I knew you were trouble when you walked in, so shame on me now

[tawdry brook]

not looking for support 🙂 just asking if some of you guys maybe had the same troubel with the sensor 🙂 don't think there is a support channel for zigbee device troubel there is for zigbee do 🙂

[clear ferry]

Mine has been running for 8 months or so, no issues

[tawdry brook]

so guess i beter return it

[clear ferry]

Or you have a poor ZigBee mesh, or a bad parent

[tawdry brook]

it's standing 1 meter away from my zigbee coordinator

[clear ferry]

Doesn't mean it is connected to the coordinator

[tawdry brook]

when i map it says it is

[clear ferry]

Then it should be

What is the coordinator?

[tawdry brook]

tubeszb-cc2652-poe-2022

[clear ferry]

Should be great

[tawdry brook]

other devices that are in a other room concrete walls and so on have beter connection

and that one is in line of sight

[clear ferry]

Mine has a link quality of 102, at the other side of the house, with 100% battery still

[tawdry brook]

yeah mine is between 3 and 20 1 meter away line of sight

and most of the time 0

[clear ferry]

Try to pair it to a specific router

That isn't the coordinator

[shadow prawn]

A router that isnt the coordinator

[tawdry brook]

no

routers extend the network of the coordinator

[shadow prawn]

Why not try it

[clear ferry]

[tawdry brook]

changed connection point and it does not even connect anymore

wait il run to the room with the router and try there

[shadow prawn]

Wiggle wiggle wiggle

[shadow prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/justdoit-gif-4618831

[tawdry brook]

nope does not connect to the router

[clear ferry]

[tawdry brook]

ill try a other router one sec

[clear ferry]

Tried finding it somewhere in there

[tawdry brook]

is that yours ?

or just some picture of the internet

[clear ferry]

It's mine

[tawdry brook]

well tbh i have 2 zigbee coordinators 1 is a Hue setup do

and does not want to connect to the other router aswel so it only connects to the coordinator

witch is strange

[shadow prawn]

2 zigbee coordinator?

[clear ferry]

One mesh to rule them all

And in the darkness local them

None of that hue nønsense

[tawdry brook]

wel one is called a Hue Hub but its practicly a zigbee coordinator

[shadow prawn]

Why not get rid of it

[tawdry brook]

i have it

[clear ferry]

It complicates stuff

[tawdry brook]

why would i get rid of a working device

[clear ferry]

Two meshes give no real advantage

And can interfere

[tawdry brook]

yeah had to change the channel on the hue one

once i installed the one of tubes

the hue one i have for like 5 years now i think

[shadow prawn]

But why

[tawdry brook]

only recently bought tubes one

[shadow prawn]

That does not make sense at all

[tawdry brook]

it does if you think non lights

[clear ferry]

My aqara, tradfri and hue hub are all in a box in the basement

[tawdry brook]

i wanted to connect other devices sensors and so on that you can't do with hue hub

[shadow prawn]

Yeah but why not connect all hue bulbs to the tube coordinator

[clear ferry]

If you only connect non mains powered to the tube

It will be horrible

[shadow prawn]

Horrible!

[tawdry brook]

i have 50 hue lights

50

[clear ferry]

I have 80 tradfri lights

[tawdry brook]

it's gonne be a hell of a job migrating them all

[shadow prawn]

Oh no

[clear ferry]

It took me 45 minutes to migrate ~100 devices when I did the move

[tawdry brook]

but but

[shadow prawn]

But but but

[tawdry brook]

how in H* did you do that ?

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-birds-funny-butt-bum-pig-gif-20011568

Very easy, turn the lights on and off 5 times, or use the hue dimmer button next to the light or push a pin on the sensor for five seconds

At worst it takes 5 seconds per device

Then I just need the time to move

And I'm a fast bastard

[tawdry brook]

and a mobile computer ?

[clear ferry]

No

The mesh is open

Why do you need a computer?

[tawdry brook]

to rename devices so you know witch one is witch

[clear ferry]

Mobile phone

Typing and renaming every 5-10 devices

[tawdry brook]

guess ill start migrating

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/digibyte-dgb-fall-stairs-falling-down-the-stairs-gif-16093199

[tawdry brook]

yeah just finished programming all my hue lights in HA

[clear ferry]

If you just name them the same it will just continue working

Long live zigbee2mqtt

[shadow prawn]

As long as he has connected the bridge to home assistant 😂, ah ok he said that

Shower time

[tawdry brook]

yeah i noticed if i give them the same name it keeps working

[shadow prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-lets-go-turbopolyp-man-bijt-hond-gif-22691504

And if it’s necessary i help your cat into the tree

[tawdry brook]

tested one automation and it's broken

cr*p

cant turn my outdoor light on anymore

okay that's fixed

[tawdry brook]

do enteties that no longer exist stay in home assistant or do you have to delete them manually

so it's done all the lights are moved

now the sensors and the buttons

okay all the indoor sensors need a reset

great

[clear ferry]

See, it was fast

[tawdry brook]

sensors not included have to reset them all

[tawdry brook]

but what you said is true the mesh really increases connection to all devices

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-stewart-mild-shock-shocked-shock-mild-gif-5292523

[tawdry brook]

its funny to see the mesh do

devices that are close to router 1 witch is in line of sight NOOOOO it takes router 2 thats behind a concreet wall in a other room

like my greenhouse sensor

there is a router next to it no it connects to a router that is 2 rooms away inside

[tawdry brook]

gues they will reroute over time

ive seen enddevices jump routers before

[covert birch]

Hey! Any way to use an old Ipad mini as a wall panel for HA? I think its the ipad mini 1

Or is it to old and I need to buy a A7 or something like that?

[umbral cliff]

If it can open a web browser (and specifically your HA site) then yes it can work

[covert birch]

It wont load the login form :/ And the ios is too old to download other browsers. No way to jailbreak it? The ios is on 9.3