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hushed basalt Apr 13, 2022, 2:56 PM

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4 is probably heaps

umbral cliff Apr 13, 2022, 2:56 PM

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It’s going to be running in line with the pre-existing mains power cable/ link too so probably not a bad idea from interference issue too

clear ferry Apr 13, 2022, 2:57 PM

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It's easy to pull fiber, I've pulled fiber with two socks and a vacuum

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Was slow, but Worked

umbral cliff Apr 13, 2022, 2:57 PM

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Though honestly thinking just a 2<->2 link between the two, linking to a good quality switch inside the house to take the fibre into copper & separately from nbn to fibre

umbral cliff Apr 13, 2022, 2:58 PM

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clear ferry It's easy to pull fiber, I've pulled fiber with two socks and a vacuum

Easy but gotta love australias archaic cabling rules

clear ferry Apr 13, 2022, 2:58 PM

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Lol straya

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2022, 2:58 PM

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From a manufacturing perspective indoor fibre patch style cables are incredibly cheap

umbral cliff Apr 13, 2022, 2:58 PM

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Just don’t get caught basically

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2022, 2:58 PM

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Copper is hard and expensive

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Materials for the terminations are dirt cheap too

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Assembly is the only real cost

umbral cliff Apr 13, 2022, 2:59 PM

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Is there a way to have fibre come out of a wall socket, or do you somehow have to do fibre -> RJ45 in the wall?

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2022, 2:59 PM

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If you want to see expensive look at expanded optical connectors

feral palm Apr 13, 2022, 2:59 PM

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i just linked keystones for fiber above, they exist

umbral cliff Apr 13, 2022, 3:00 PM

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Keystones are not wall jacks though I thought

feral palm Apr 13, 2022, 3:00 PM

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you can get a keystone wall plate

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then just short patch from wall to switch

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2022, 3:01 PM

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$$$$$$

umbral cliff Apr 13, 2022, 3:01 PM

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Looks professional stuff

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2022, 3:01 PM

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Keystones is just a formfactor for modules

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So you can get LC, RJ45, RCA keystones etc etc

feral palm Apr 13, 2022, 3:02 PM

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yep

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2022, 3:02 PM

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If you have had Telstra install a socket at some point in the 2000s you'd see these Krone plates

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That's keystone

umbral cliff Apr 13, 2022, 3:02 PM

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Yeah so would have to replace the wall plate with a keystone one then

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2022, 3:03 PM

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I'd use a surface mount

umbral cliff Apr 13, 2022, 3:03 PM

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hushed basalt If you have had Telstra install a socket at some point in the 2000s you'd see th...

Ohh I think I’ve actually seen one of those here actually

umbral cliff Apr 13, 2022, 3:03 PM

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hushed basalt I'd use a surface mount

That a type of keystone jack?

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2022, 3:03 PM

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It's an alternative to a plate

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The point being the fibre doesn't come out perpendicular to the wall

umbral cliff Apr 13, 2022, 3:04 PM

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Ahh like the old Foxtel connectors

feral palm Apr 13, 2022, 3:04 PM

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yeah that's a good plus to it

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2022, 3:04 PM

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Since it is fragile and has a large bend radius

umbral cliff Apr 13, 2022, 3:06 PM

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Makes sense

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2022, 3:06 PM

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Is this going into a rack

umbral cliff Apr 13, 2022, 3:07 PM

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At the moment just learning about it

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2022, 3:08 PM

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Basic rules are
Cable runs never go directly to equipment. Always an intermediatery termination

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On both ends

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Don't kink it, don't yank it,

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And you'll want something to protect it when it's running around your roof or whatever

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Split conduit like you'd find in your engine bay can work

umbral cliff Apr 13, 2022, 3:11 PM

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hushed basalt Basic rules are Cable runs never go directly to equipment. Always an intermediat...

Why’s that? In case things break?

clear ferry Apr 13, 2022, 3:11 PM

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Don't kink shame my cables

umbral cliff Apr 13, 2022, 3:11 PM

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But yeah makes sense otherwise

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2022, 3:12 PM

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Basically you can't really tie it off with cable ties to nail clips in your rafters like you could with cat6

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And random trades or whatever in your roof etc

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Although if you're using an "outdoor" cable that's got enough protection

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Outdoor doesn't mean underground though, keep that in mind

umbral cliff Apr 13, 2022, 3:13 PM

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There special underground cables?

clear ferry Apr 13, 2022, 3:14 PM

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Rugged cables

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Yes

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2022, 3:14 PM

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Gel filled etc

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Ant proof sheathing

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Yes that's not a joke

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Made to basically be in contact with water full time

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Which a cable across a catenary or up a wall in conduit isn't

umbral cliff Apr 13, 2022, 3:16 PM

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hushed basalt Ant proof sheathing

Ants are a menace at times

clear ferry Apr 13, 2022, 3:16 PM

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Don't talk about @scenic radish that way

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He is helping @fathom sparrow move to #449717345808547842

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2022, 3:17 PM

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clear ferry Apr 13, 2022, 3:17 PM

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Ewww ground fiber patch holes

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2022, 3:17 PM

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Manholes

clear ferry Apr 13, 2022, 3:17 PM

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Disgusting

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2022, 3:18 PM

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And pits are superior to poles you savage

clear ferry Apr 13, 2022, 3:18 PM

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Disagree

fathom sparrow Apr 13, 2022, 3:18 PM

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clear ferry He is helping <@372843932096397333> move to <#449717345808547842>

I'll have @scenic radish unleashTheMarketingDude on you

umbral cliff Apr 13, 2022, 3:18 PM

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hushed basalt And pits are superior to poles you savage

Only if they contain nbn fibre and that’s it 😋

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2022, 3:18 PM

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Utility poles are for backwards third world countries like Norway

clear ferry Apr 13, 2022, 3:18 PM

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That guy is a proper see you next Thursday @fathom sparrow

fathom sparrow Apr 13, 2022, 3:19 PM

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oh yea

umbral cliff Apr 13, 2022, 3:19 PM

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hushed basalt Utility poles are for backwards third world countries like Norway

Nah their ground is too frozen to allow them to put it there 😛

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2022, 3:19 PM

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I promise you no utility would preference poles over underground when all things are equal

clear ferry Apr 13, 2022, 3:19 PM

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Why can't we have a jesus bot in here

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That tells me I'm warned

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When I say shit

hushed basalt Apr 13, 2022, 3:20 PM

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https://c.tenor.com/BRG_BFFHOGIAAAAM/jesus-take-the-wheel-jesus-drive.gif

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I need to redo my retic pits

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The one good gardening shop is like 40 minutes away each way though

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Everywhere else is like double the price for pits

shadow prawn Apr 13, 2022, 5:35 PM

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https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2022/04/13/73d77b054fcae807.mp4

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Hope you‘re well Michelle

finite atlas Apr 13, 2022, 5:36 PM

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screw you

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i wanted to post that ):

shadow prawn Apr 13, 2022, 5:36 PM

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Oh no

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Sad Oberfail noises

finite atlas Apr 13, 2022, 5:36 PM

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clear ferry Apr 13, 2022, 5:44 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/sadboixx-gif-24394050

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cunning onyx Apr 13, 2022, 5:56 PM

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finite atlas Apr 13, 2022, 6:56 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/371443628184436768/963874504159928430/Sm8HDAn9F1SdnQ46.mp4

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scenic radish Apr 13, 2022, 6:59 PM

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MY DATA!

clear ferry Apr 13, 2022, 7:01 PM

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Classic data leak i see

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Better implement end to end encryption

forest edge Apr 13, 2022, 7:15 PM

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how realistic is that 300ft 2.4Ghz range on wireless? anyone have anything that far or even further that remained stable?

clever mortar Apr 13, 2022, 7:17 PM

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Off the shelf, not very. With a little effort, quite possible (at least line of sight)

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https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/longest-broadband-wireless-connection

forest edge Apr 13, 2022, 7:20 PM

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lol 237, i know point to point will do it but talking about the average device with built in antenna

clever mortar Apr 13, 2022, 7:20 PM

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Possible, under ideal or near ideal conditions

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300 ft through a forest, not so much

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300 ft of open air between you and the AP, sure

forest edge Apr 13, 2022, 7:21 PM

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yea I was thinking it was clear los

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but would it remain stable

clever mortar Apr 13, 2022, 7:21 PM

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It should

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You may find that performance is underwhelming

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I'd not rely on it working, not without testing in the location in question

forest edge Apr 13, 2022, 7:23 PM

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the speed drop over that distance is something I didn't think about

clever mortar Apr 13, 2022, 7:24 PM

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As the signal strength drops off so will the speed

clear ferry Apr 13, 2022, 7:29 PM

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I've done wireless over fjords

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20 years ago

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Free line of sight, no issues

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Except when it rained

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Or snowed

forest edge Apr 13, 2022, 7:29 PM

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i have a clear los, but it's a camera I am wanting to put at that range so it's got me concerned

clear ferry Apr 13, 2022, 7:30 PM

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Without external antenna on it? Unlikely

forest edge Apr 13, 2022, 7:30 PM

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it does have an xternal antenna

clear ferry Apr 13, 2022, 7:30 PM

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Maybe?

forest edge Apr 13, 2022, 7:31 PM

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directional wifi antennas here in the states aren't exactly cheap so was hoping to avoid that extra expense

clever mortar Apr 13, 2022, 7:31 PM

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For a camera feed, you're likely going to find this painful

clear ferry Apr 13, 2022, 7:31 PM

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These are the kind I'm used to

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I did this in 2001

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Screenshot_2022-04-13-21-34-43-70_3d9111e2d3171bf4882369f490c087b4.jpg

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Seagulls tried killing me a few times

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Had average of about 5Mbit if memory serves right

forest edge Apr 13, 2022, 7:35 PM

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yea those antennas are well over 100

clear ferry Apr 13, 2022, 7:35 PM

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Enough for a gym filled with 350 nerds

forest edge Apr 13, 2022, 7:40 PM

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by the time i factor in the antenna cost etc it about the same price as the 4g version of the same camera lol

clever mortar Apr 13, 2022, 7:42 PM

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But WiFi is free once set up, and 4G ain't

clear ferry Apr 13, 2022, 7:43 PM

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You say that, but in muuuuuuurica

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It probably is

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For the first 3mb

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And then if someone trips inside the 4g coverage area

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You get sued

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Better get that 4g tripping insurance

scenic radish Apr 13, 2022, 7:44 PM

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😂

clear ferry Apr 13, 2022, 7:44 PM

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Just in case

forest edge Apr 13, 2022, 7:45 PM

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clever mortar But WiFi is free once set up, and 4G ain't

in my setup the wifi would be connecting to a 4g router lol

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but the wifi version of the same camera is half the price

clear ferry Apr 13, 2022, 7:46 PM

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Just bury 1200ft of cat5e and poe

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You said it was perfectly legitimate

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forest edge Apr 13, 2022, 7:47 PM

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clear ferry Just bury 1200ft of cat5e and poe

one of these days I am going record a video of me setting that up and at the end i'll say something like, now let's see if this works and show the monitor bringing up the camera feed pointing a piece of paper that read go f yourself atx

clear ferry Apr 13, 2022, 7:47 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/on-fire-flames-burning-oh-no-muppet-gif-16586876

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I'll be waiting

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And waiting

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And waiting

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https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-tea-gif-10625213

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clever mortar Apr 13, 2022, 7:48 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-waiting-still-waiting-gif-13052487

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forest edge Apr 13, 2022, 7:48 PM

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send me a 1k and 500ft of solid copper cat5e and you won't be waiting long

clear ferry Apr 13, 2022, 7:49 PM

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You said it was cheap on eBay, you can get it yourself

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yuckdoge

forest edge Apr 13, 2022, 7:49 PM

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cheap and cheap enough to just do for the luls is two diffrent things

clear ferry Apr 13, 2022, 7:50 PM

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Just get quad to donate you the last hours crypto gains

forest edge Apr 13, 2022, 7:50 PM

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@tidal bronze is anti social anymore these days

orchid rose Apr 13, 2022, 7:50 PM

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crypto and gains, choose one

clear ferry Apr 13, 2022, 7:51 PM

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solansjokk

forest edge Apr 13, 2022, 7:51 PM

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clear ferry Apr 13, 2022, 7:51 PM

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Ain't noone got time for that nønsense

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I just get raises and stock incentives that invest themselves

forest edge Apr 13, 2022, 7:53 PM

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uh oh

tidal bronze Apr 13, 2022, 7:53 PM

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Humidity makes me antisocial 😕

forest edge Apr 13, 2022, 7:53 PM

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he's awaken

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wtf you doing in country music land?

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and why you riding shotgun? don't tell me that's an uber in a truck lol

tidal bronze Apr 13, 2022, 7:55 PM

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Had to pickup my mail

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No kale, no coconut water 😕

forest edge Apr 13, 2022, 8:04 PM

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TN is not exactly a "paradise" relaxing state, if you don't like country music, blondes with big tits and cajun food then you best exit stage left

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sorry not blondes, brunettes

bitter pawn Apr 13, 2022, 8:06 PM

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i prefer brunettes

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maybe i need to go to TN.

forest edge Apr 13, 2022, 8:06 PM

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blondes is cali lol

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TN is a toss up between redheads and brunettes

bitter pawn Apr 13, 2022, 8:09 PM

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i assume all those asics were in china

tidal bronze Apr 13, 2022, 8:10 PM

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Few more hours and back to LA, so all good.

bitter pawn Apr 13, 2022, 8:10 PM

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forest edge Apr 13, 2022, 8:11 PM

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tidal bronze Few more hours and back to LA, so all good.

just can't sleep without hearing glass shattering and police sirens huh?

bitter pawn Apr 13, 2022, 8:11 PM

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the sounds of crackheads coming down from their high can be some sweet white noise eh? xD

tidal bronze Apr 13, 2022, 8:12 PM

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@forest edge don't hear or see any of the stuff you post 😆

forest edge Apr 13, 2022, 8:12 PM

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leave your bubble once in awhile and you will lol

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making a mad dash to the airport to fly as far away from cali as possible does not count

dull chasm Apr 13, 2022, 9:14 PM

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@forest edge I think you are California jealous heck I thought you where a farm hand but you didn’t know what a pto was

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@tidal bronze at least you there is no way I could deal with cali

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Btw I bought a damn 700 dollar battery chainsaw you should be proud

forest edge Apr 13, 2022, 9:18 PM

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dull chasm <@!104768700069990400> I think you are California jealous heck I thought you whe...

lol not my fault you took pictures of your painted nails and called it a PTO

dull chasm Apr 13, 2022, 9:19 PM

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Cough bullshit

forest edge Apr 14, 2022, 3:00 AM

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Well I just tested the wifi range using two pixel 3's with one as hotspot. Showed half signal strength

bitter pawn Apr 14, 2022, 3:42 AM

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forest edge Apr 14, 2022, 4:59 AM

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last cedar Apr 14, 2022, 5:13 AM

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bitter pawn

Always on the bottom :(

glacial knot Apr 14, 2022, 5:23 AM

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last cedar Always on the bottom :(

I thought you like being a bottom

young sigil Apr 14, 2022, 7:12 AM

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last cedar Always on the bottom :(

Fixed

last cedar Apr 14, 2022, 8:08 AM

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young sigil Fixed

Thank you so much!

last cedar Apr 14, 2022, 8:08 AM

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glacial knot I thought you like being a bottom

Climbing is nice too!

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Falling isn't

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finite atlas Apr 14, 2022, 8:34 AM

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me irl

finite atlas Apr 14, 2022, 11:17 AM

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who dis Michelle?

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https://img.pr0gramm.com/2022/04/14/f3e87c1c210b2d94.jpg

bitter pawn Apr 14, 2022, 12:19 PM

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Hah 😆

clear ferry Apr 14, 2022, 12:23 PM

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Playboy bunny Michelle

finite atlas Apr 14, 2022, 12:58 PM

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👀

last cedar Apr 14, 2022, 3:31 PM

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Doormats don't pay the bills anymore

static schooner Apr 14, 2022, 3:41 PM

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Makes as much sense as a rabbit laying eggs around Easter

last cedar Apr 14, 2022, 3:42 PM

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Makes more sense than a raccoon laying eggs

last cedar Apr 14, 2022, 5:52 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/u3mmiv/blast_off/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

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Which one of you foul creatures cut my tree down?!

static schooner Apr 14, 2022, 5:56 PM

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patrex: #the-water-cooler message

forest edge Apr 14, 2022, 6:05 PM

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shadow prawn Apr 14, 2022, 6:23 PM

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ponder

clear ferry Apr 14, 2022, 6:46 PM

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yuckdoge

static schooner Apr 14, 2022, 6:46 PM

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shouldn't have worn such a distinctive plain red work hardhat

clear ferry Apr 14, 2022, 7:02 PM

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finite atlas Apr 14, 2022, 8:03 PM

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thats more my jam: https://youtu.be/kvUPgaVh8_A

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orchid rose Apr 14, 2022, 8:39 PM

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shadow prawn Apr 14, 2022, 9:21 PM

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static schooner Apr 14, 2022, 9:33 PM

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cats want you to remove the device so that they can have the box it came in all to themselves

hushed basalt Apr 15, 2022, 5:33 AM

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shudders

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My Mum's reticulation controller

static schooner Apr 15, 2022, 5:38 AM

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Had to look that up. Irrigation/sprinkler controller

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Seems very Australian

glacial knot Apr 15, 2022, 5:42 AM

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I hope that's just 5V o.0

young sigil Apr 15, 2022, 5:46 AM

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Usually 24V AC for irrigation controllers.

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Looks like a gardener installed it.

glacial knot Apr 15, 2022, 5:47 AM

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eh, 24V is also ok

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those cable shoes look a bit worrying though

last cedar Apr 15, 2022, 6:18 AM

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It is one sneeze away from a giant ploom of smoke

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 7:33 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/electrician-electric-wire-gif-12844987

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electric wires

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glacial knot Apr 15, 2022, 7:50 AM

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switch so old, my browser refuses to negitiate SSL cyphers 😂

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 8:02 AM

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Well.....

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We don't normally use webuis

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LeoLaugh

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What is the version of software you are running?

glacial knot Apr 15, 2022, 8:12 AM

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12.2(55)SE7 I assume it's ancient

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And I don't intend to actually use the web interface. Just needed to do the initial setup

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 8:13 AM

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Pretty sure 15 branch is the latest for 2960

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If that was the one you ended up getting

glacial knot Apr 15, 2022, 8:14 AM

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jup, it's the Catalyst2960

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I'm not going to seriously use it. Just to test some stuff with management interfaces
so I barely care. From what my admin said, it's hard to get the firmware without an active subscription to citrix either way

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 8:15 AM

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Which exact model?

glacial knot Apr 15, 2022, 8:16 AM

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WS-C2960-24PC-L

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 8:21 AM

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PU_PepeWhistle

last cedar Apr 15, 2022, 8:34 AM

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oh, the switch moses used on his network

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 8:35 AM

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moses parts the vlans

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let my routing table go

forest edge Apr 15, 2022, 9:26 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/nerd-rage-angry-crazy-lockers-gif-6129449

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hushed basalt Apr 15, 2022, 10:31 AM

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Straya

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If you look closely you can tell they wired in solenoid 1 first before anything else

wintry hazel Apr 15, 2022, 10:38 AM

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You can tell whoever did it should stick to garden hose

hushed basalt Apr 15, 2022, 10:55 AM

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To be fair Hunter is as much to blame for making a system like that

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Especially considering how much they charge they can afford to put in a simpler better terminal strip

umbral cliff Apr 15, 2022, 11:08 AM

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hushed basalt If you look closely you can tell they wired in solenoid 1 first before anything ...

That because of the stretched insulation?

marsh delta Apr 15, 2022, 11:39 AM

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<@&330946878646517761>

low harness Apr 15, 2022, 11:45 AM

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99.96% certainly a bot, but not enough for intervention. Feel free to press that red button, though.

crisp sapphire Apr 15, 2022, 12:09 PM

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Which one?

hushed basalt Apr 15, 2022, 12:50 PM

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umbral cliff That because of the stretched insulation?

Rust

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They had rust on their phillips screwdriver, most likely from unscrewing the old retic controller they replaced

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The rust deposits on the screw terminals when they tighten up the wires on 1 etc, and seeds further rust

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More gets deposited as it goes 1>2>3 etc until there is less left on their screwdriver

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Moral of the story is clean your tip after you put it somewhere dirty

umbral cliff Apr 15, 2022, 12:58 PM

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hushed basalt Moral of the story is clean your tip after you put it somewhere dirty

Sounds like a life tip not just a installer tip lol

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But that makes a lot of sense

tulip olive Apr 15, 2022, 2:29 PM

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hey all, any Linux gurus around for some help with an issue I have

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ive spent all day on it and cannot fix it, been down google rabbit holes all day and need a 2nd brain

velvet horizonBOT Apr 15, 2022, 2:30 PM

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tulip olive Apr 15, 2022, 2:32 PM

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not HA related, linux Virtual machine the OS drive is mounting "read Only" and subsequently causes services to fail to start due to no write permissions. If i run "mount -a /dev/sde2 /" it mounts after it has booted to RW, i then run init 1; init 3 and the services all start successfully. The issue is everytime i reboot it goes back to read only requiring the manual commands above. I have tried FSCK (no issues found), tried a 2nd VM and mounted the Disk to it and ran FSCK (No issues)

clever mortar Apr 15, 2022, 2:33 PM

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Check /etc/fstab
Check dmesg to see what's going on at boot

tulip olive Apr 15, 2022, 2:34 PM

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checking 1 min

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the 1st #UUID was the original line which as it has errors=remount-ro i tried creating the 2nd line with "defaults"

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doesnt help

clever mortar Apr 15, 2022, 2:37 PM

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Images of text Failed

green inlet Apr 15, 2022, 2:37 PM

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You should prob be asking in the OpenMediaVault discord. It is more than likely a UI setting that can be changed. I haven’t done OpenMediaVault for a hot minute but remember issues along these lines.

tulip olive Apr 15, 2022, 2:38 PM

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anyone know the discord for OMV?

clever mortar Apr 15, 2022, 2:38 PM

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I Googled and found https://openmediavault.readthedocs.io/en/latest/support.html for you

green inlet Apr 15, 2022, 2:38 PM

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https://discord.gg/3xP7Ty5E

tulip olive Apr 15, 2022, 2:39 PM

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thanks guys

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 2:39 PM

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Eeew

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Omv

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yuckdoge

tulip olive Apr 15, 2022, 2:41 PM

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what do you use @clear ferry as a NAS OS?

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 2:43 PM

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I ran Debian from 2003-2012, then a horrible qnap from 2012 to 2017, and free/truenas from 2017-2021

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Now I'm back full circle at Debian

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Zfs for my main pools, looking at moving the smaller pools to mergerfs+snapraid

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Kvm and docker for virtualization

glacial knot Apr 15, 2022, 2:46 PM

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I hope you are on sid 🙂

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 2:46 PM

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No, then i could run Ubuntu

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🤢

tulip olive Apr 15, 2022, 2:50 PM

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ive been using omv4 then 5 with passthrough disks to VM as ext4 with snapraid

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I am finding everytime I have a hard drive big disk failure, snapraid is useless and I end up with major issues overall with omv

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 2:51 PM

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I've had.... 3 HDD failures in the last 20 years

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Over a few dozen drives

tulip olive Apr 15, 2022, 2:51 PM

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thats very lucky, I think ive had 5 over the last 8 years

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and everytime my alleged resillience with snapraid fails to restore to a new disk

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 2:52 PM

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I've migrated my main zfs pool three times too

tulip olive Apr 15, 2022, 2:52 PM

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I just want something whereby when a disk fails, i can physically swap it out and it rebuilds

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does zfs pool work well for this?

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 2:52 PM

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Zfs is great

tulip olive Apr 15, 2022, 2:52 PM

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so debian with ZFS is your setup

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I like OMV as it has portainer / dockers for the automation downloads etc

clever mortar Apr 15, 2022, 2:54 PM

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Portainer blobcsignno
Docker Compose blobcsignyes

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 2:54 PM

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Do you have notifs for anytime someone says Portainer XD

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Also, screw TP LINK routers, terrible firmware

clever mortar Apr 15, 2022, 2:55 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/mike-wazowski-watchingyou-gif-5352035

Tenor

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 2:55 PM

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Trying to block my Tuya devices from the internet so I can control them just through Local Tuya, parental controls simply do not work.. at all

tulip olive Apr 15, 2022, 2:57 PM

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I use pfsense VM as a router

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 2:57 PM

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You can do that?

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Like if I setup pfsense in VM on my main PC connected by ethernet which is usually on 24/7 I could just use that as a router?

tulip olive Apr 15, 2022, 2:58 PM

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yea absolutely

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 2:59 PM

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Huh, I always thought you needed a dedicated PC or some hardware that you werent using

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Ill def look into that

tulip olive Apr 15, 2022, 2:59 PM

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I use a Dell T20 Xeon server as my main server which has a 4 port Intel PCI NIC

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I use port 1 as the "WAN" port from the ADSL Modem

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add your adsl username and password in Pfsense and boom it connects

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:01 PM

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I have a regular gaming MOBO, you think itll have more than 2 ports?

tulip olive Apr 15, 2022, 3:01 PM

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usually motherboards have 1 NIC port

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but you can add a PCI card with 4 ports no problem

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go Intel for compatibility

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:01 PM

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Well HA in hyper-v runs on its own IP and shows up as a seperate device in my router

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could i theoretically do the same for PfSense

tulip olive Apr 15, 2022, 3:02 PM

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depends on your broadband equipment really

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:03 PM

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Ill just dabble with it, see what happens aha, could I use my current router as an AP for wifi assuming I got it up and running?

tulip olive Apr 15, 2022, 3:03 PM

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mine is a BT (UK) white modem which has an ethernet port on it, that patches to port 1 on my 4 port NIC and I then binded that in the VM in hyperv to pfsense as Pfsense to WAN

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then port 2 = Pfsense to LAN

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pppoe

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:04 PM

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I'd probably have to connect my modem ethernet to my PC, setup pfsense and then get a separate ethernet card to use router as AP im guessing

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Wait! I have an old PC lying around, might just turn that into a PfSense machine and then use my current (expensive) router as a WIFI AP and switch

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Its only got 1 ethernet port but I could grab a network card for cheap im sure

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https://www.ple.com.au/Products/601147/TP-LINK-TG-3468-PCIe-Gigabit-Ethernet-Network-Card bingo

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I assume this old piece of junk PC doesnt even support 2.5Gb so 1Gb will do aha

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actually im pretty sure my modem only supports 1Gb anyway aha

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Oh, actually i do have a sketchy USB to Ethernet adapter and besides local transfers, my crappy aussie internet is capped at 100Mb anyway ahahaha so that might be another option 🤔

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Might have to dabble with that

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:13 PM

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tardy parrot Huh, I always thought you needed a dedicated PC or some hardware that you werent...

This is the sensible way

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:24 PM

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I have an old PC lying around, fuck it imma just dabble with it and see what happens, worst case I resort back to my current setup

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:25 PM

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Opnsense > pfsense

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Mostly anything with two NICs will do

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:25 PM

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Oh, im assuming PfSense will let me easily block internet access to certain devices whilst still allowing them on the network? specifically Wifi devices connected to the router as an AP, or would I need a wifi card of some sort connected to the pfsense computer itself

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:25 PM

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One NIC if you are desperate

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:26 PM

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clear ferry Mostly anything with two NICs will do

ignoring speeds, USB to Ethernet adapter will work?

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:26 PM

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No, *sense is the edge device, you block anything on the edge

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I would never run usb to Ethernet no

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Then rather use vlans

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:27 PM

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Why exactly no USB?

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judging from this tut video this is essentially what i would be setting up

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using my current router as a wifi AP and switch

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:27 PM

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Usb to Ethernet is... Flaky at best, its fine for connecting a laptop to a cabled network or doing troubleshooting

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The chipsets are usually not great for bsd either

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:28 PM

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What about just for tinkering? I can get a gigabit ethernet card for 18$ soon as long as I know my setup all works

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:28 PM

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Either get more NICs or use VLANs

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Supported NICs

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Preferably not realtek based

clever mortar Apr 15, 2022, 3:30 PM

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Realtek are no longer quite the dumpster fire of the past

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:30 PM

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Still not a great choice for bsd

clever mortar Apr 15, 2022, 3:31 PM

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Or anything really

tulip olive Apr 15, 2022, 3:31 PM

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make sure you buy an INTEL NIC PCI card

clever mortar Apr 15, 2022, 3:31 PM

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Intel, Broadcom, and many others

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:31 PM

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Doesn't have to be Intel, but Intel are good bets

tulip olive Apr 15, 2022, 3:31 PM

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the OS is fussy with chipsets so doubt tplink will be detected

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:31 PM

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And pro 1000 is cheap

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:31 PM

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clear ferry Either get more NICs or use VLANs

How would a VLAN work if I can only connect the modem to the router PC?

tulip olive Apr 15, 2022, 3:31 PM

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hyperv virtual switch

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:32 PM

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You would use a managed switch

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Physical ones please

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None of that hyperv nonsense

tulip olive Apr 15, 2022, 3:32 PM

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i use a tplink 8 port smart switch which has poe and vlan support

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i then tag the traffic in HyperV virtual switch with powershell commands

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:33 PM

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No my point is I need modem connection to get internet, I cant then use the same physical ethernet cable to connect to my current router as a WiFi/Switch

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:34 PM

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Sure you can

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That is how vlans work

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Especially VLAN trunks/tags

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You can have 4095 vlans on one cable

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:34 PM

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I know how VLANs work, I still need physical connections between the 2 devices..?

tulip olive Apr 15, 2022, 3:34 PM

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I VLAN tag my CCTV network / LAN etc but i use physical connections

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1 cable from BT modem to port 1 and port 2 on the nic is to the LAN switch

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patch all of your devices in to your big switch

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pfsense webgui create 2 zones and map to each interface (physical)

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pfsense to WAN

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pfsense to LAN

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port 1 / port 2

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:38 PM

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Explain how I get connection to my old router with 1 ethernet cable

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:38 PM

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With a managed switch

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:39 PM

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Where

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:40 PM

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Between modem and old router and pfsense

low harness Apr 15, 2022, 3:41 PM

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Between the modem and everything else.

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:41 PM

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So, everywhere

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:42 PM

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You mean like this?

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:42 PM

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Modem to managed switch untagged vlan 200, old router to managed switch untagged VLAN 300, pfsense nic to managed switch tagged VLAN 200/300, two virtual interfaces in pfsense tagging each respective vlan

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Yes

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:42 PM

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Ok well in that case id just get an extra NIC lol

tulip olive Apr 15, 2022, 3:42 PM

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exactly

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:43 PM

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im talking about tinkering with it tonight, imma just use USB to Ethernet

tulip olive Apr 15, 2022, 3:43 PM

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i got mine from ebay from a parts seller in the IT Industry, it was like 25 quid for a HP Intel 4 port nic

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:43 PM

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speed is not an issue right now as aussie internet is slow and i dont transfer data local often if at all

tulip olive Apr 15, 2022, 3:43 PM

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usually quite expensive new

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yea I only have 42mb down

low harness Apr 15, 2022, 3:43 PM

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I don't feel like scrolling; can't the old router be the managed switch too?

tulip olive Apr 15, 2022, 3:44 PM

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but when we do get gig fibre then I have the dedicated interface for it

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:44 PM

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100Mb down, max usually 92Mb

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Idk could it? TP LINK firmware sucks

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:44 PM

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low harness I don't feel like scrolling; can't the old router be the managed switch too?

Perhaps, maybe, depends, wouldn't do it

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:44 PM

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but then I couldnt use it as WiFi AP??

tulip olive Apr 15, 2022, 3:44 PM

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pre pfsense I used a TPLINK c7 then flashed it with DDWRT and it was always unstable on every build

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that was my driver to move to pfsense and I converted the tplink with ddwrt into a AP only

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soon to be replaced with a Ubiquiti

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:45 PM

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I would flash mine but no one supports Archer AX6000

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if you can find suitable firmware hit me up lol

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otherwise yeah ideally I want to move to all Ubiquiti

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:45 PM

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I haven't used a consumer router in 21 years, so my experience is limited

low harness Apr 15, 2022, 3:45 PM

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tardy parrot Idk could it? TP LINK firmware sucks

Yeah, ok. I wouldn't expect that to be possible with stock tp link firmware...

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At least if it's anything like when I used them last.

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:46 PM

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Eventually when I am not renting and can have a server room etc I will probs setup OpnSense/PfSense and dedicated switches and Ubiquiti APs

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:46 PM

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Ew

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:46 PM

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oh no

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Ew what

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:47 PM

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Ubiquiti

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:47 PM

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omg -.- theres always someone who doesnt like something aha

low harness Apr 15, 2022, 3:47 PM

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Is your green face button broken, atx?

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:47 PM

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🤢 🤢 🤢 🤢 🤢

low harness Apr 15, 2022, 3:47 PM

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There we go

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:47 PM

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yuckdoge

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:47 PM

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what would you recommend, Ubiquiti seems like the tits #LinusTechTips lol

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:48 PM

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Ew Linus

low harness Apr 15, 2022, 3:48 PM

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I only have a few Ubiquiti APs, but I really like them. Solid as a rock.

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:48 PM

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low harness At least if it's anything like when I used them last.

Nothing has changed I bet aha, no matter how much you spend on the hardware, the software is trash -.-

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:48 PM

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clear ferry Ew Linus

Saw that coming lol

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OK everyone, in plainest english possible tell me your network setups aha

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:49 PM

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The biggest issue with ubiquiti is their shitty morals and milking of "prosumers"

static schooner Apr 15, 2022, 3:49 PM

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tardy parrot OK everyone, in plainest english possible tell me your network setups aha

wires that carry bits

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and sometimes without wires

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:50 PM

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tardy parrot OK everyone, in plainest english possible tell me your network setups aha

Which one? My production wired, my lab wired, my production wireless, my lab wireless, or my SDN stack? DogeWink

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:50 PM

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Ok less plain english than that aha, i am studying networking at uni I can handle a bit more aha

low harness Apr 15, 2022, 3:51 PM

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Some chinese SBC which happened to have four NICs running pfsense under proxmox (used to run lots of other stuff too, but it's single purpose now), a switch, two APs.

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:51 PM

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clear ferry Which one? My production wired, my lab wired, my production wireless, my lab wir...

Fancaay, your most used one, and then any differences from the rest

low harness Apr 15, 2022, 3:52 PM

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Some VLANs for guests (no network access) and IOT (no internet access) mapping to separate SSIDs.

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:52 PM

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low harness Some chinese SBC which happened to have four NICs running pfsense under proxmox ...

This sound about as much as I would need aha, id just scale up the switch depending on how many wired connections I need and add APs depending on size of house, in Australia probably very small

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:52 PM

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low harness Some VLANs for guests (no network access) and IOT (no internet access) mapping t...

Yes this, this sounds like what i want aha

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Ironic how your internet of things have no internet

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As of now tho, with either my flaky USB adapter (or later a dedicated PCIe NIC) ill probably just setup this old PC as a PfSense machine and use my expensive router as a AP and switch

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:54 PM

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tardy parrot Fancaay, your most used one, and then any differences from the rest

Production wired is 2x5900AF in core, plus a 2530GPOE for distribution, opnsense running on a HPE edgeline 300, lab wired is a selection of 6 different hpe/Cisco/extreme/comware switches, production wireless is Linksys velop mesh, lab wireless is 4xMSM466, SDN is a full stack of NSX-T peered to opnsense via BGP

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:55 PM

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clear ferry Production wired is 2x5900AF in core, plus a 2530GPOE for distribution, opnsense...

Im sorry do you live in a business building or something aha, is that not overkill

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:56 PM

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I live in a house with a garage and an attic

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LeoLaugh

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:57 PM

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what even is the purpose of your production and lab

static schooner Apr 15, 2022, 3:57 PM

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helps to have cryogenic temperatures

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:58 PM

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tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:58 PM

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you running websites from your home and tinkering with new things in your lab lmao

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:58 PM

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I've run websites from home since 1998

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:58 PM

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I was born in 1998 lmao

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:58 PM

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We got broadband in 1998

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:58 PM

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Also clearly overkill when 99% of the ports arent even being used 😛

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:58 PM

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That is the lab

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They are connected as needed

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:59 PM

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Fair enough aha

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you seem like your having fun 😛

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:59 PM

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My job is my hobby

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So yes

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yuckdoge

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 3:59 PM

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The dream

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What is your job if you dont mind me asking

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 3:59 PM

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It consultant

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On any product you've ever heard of, and 231 more

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 4:00 PM

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You host your own website for your services im guessing, whenever someone with IT struggles cause you assist or consult and them money shows up in your bank

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 4:01 PM

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No, i host websites for lulz

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And as needed

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Also known as spinning up a container and doing a port map

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 4:01 PM

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How do you advertise your services, good ol business cards?

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 4:02 PM

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I don't

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 4:02 PM

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Or you actually work for some company?

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 4:02 PM

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I get jobs dealt to me from management

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Yes

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https://tenor.com/view/shocked-i-know-this-unix-system-gif-14433570

Tenor

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 4:04 PM

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Fairo, well glad you enjoy your job aha, not many people do

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 4:05 PM

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Nothing better than getting paid to play

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 4:05 PM

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Im currently studying bachelor of Computer Science majoring in Software Engineering, hoping to get into game development ideally but wouldnt just programming any old thing

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And I just like tinkering on the side because i like making computers do exactly what i want them to do

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which they never do XD

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how do make live USB for OpnSense? wtf is bz2

clever mortar Apr 15, 2022, 4:08 PM

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File compression format

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 4:09 PM

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Do i uncompress it?

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How to RUFUS lol

clever mortar Apr 15, 2022, 4:12 PM

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On linux, on Windows, on ...?

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 4:13 PM

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Windows, I have a linux lapto if that is easier

clever mortar Apr 15, 2022, 4:13 PM

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7zip will do it

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 4:15 PM

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Should I change IMG to ISO like it says?

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 4:18 PM

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It makes it easier

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 4:26 PM

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welp now im stuck just trying to get this old PC to boot lmao XD

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turn it off and on again many times, works now lol

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Oof, 4GB 1333MHz RAM, Intel i5 750 @ 2.67GHz, Some Sapphire ATI GPU

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OMG this pc is so old it has an onboard speaker, OpnSense just played a little tune XD

last cedar Apr 15, 2022, 4:46 PM

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You mean it invoked beep

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 4:49 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/pc-gif-19276963

glacial knot Apr 15, 2022, 5:03 PM

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always remember, if you aren't getting further with brute force, it's not enough force

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we wanted to have our system play Bethoven's 5th via beep on signature verification error
But someone down the line sacked that idea =.= We even have an RC release that has that feature

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 5:14 PM

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I had a friend who used the internal iptele system to call his phone and play ride of the Valkyries whenever the SQL server crashed

glacial knot Apr 15, 2022, 5:18 PM

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hehe

tardy parrot Apr 15, 2022, 5:27 PM

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Ok so I tinkered around with OpnSense, pretty nifty! Seems to work fine etc. (currently using it right now so I have internet connection :D) just missing some port forwards and IP reservations etc that I had setup on my current router

...but I went from 92Mb down to 2Mb... lmao, pretty sure its that USB adapter cause the onboard ethernet port shows 1000Mb full duplex.

However as a proof of concept it definitely seems to work! Havent tested using my old router as an AP / Switch but will give that ago later.

Now I am just going to try find a nice cheap intel NIC and boom, OpnSense router B)

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That slow of a speed wouldnt be due to the somewhat slow PC?? Pretty sure its that adapter aha

zenith imp Apr 15, 2022, 6:25 PM

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Hello, i would like to report @rose crypt for scamming or trying to scam
Apparently he/she is using this platform to search for people with linked steam accounts

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clever mortar Apr 15, 2022, 6:26 PM

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Done, thanks

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Don't forget to use the Report spam button

zenith imp Apr 15, 2022, 6:26 PM

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Thank you

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sure

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 6:44 PM

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tardy parrot Ok so I tinkered around with OpnSense, pretty nifty! Seems to work fine etc. (cu...

Any Intel pro 1000 card should be good

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Should be $10 or thereabouts

tulip olive Apr 15, 2022, 7:02 PM

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Do check eBay for any intel PCI NICs from IT resellers / refurbished old kit from enterprise servers @tardy parrot

shadow prawn Apr 15, 2022, 7:18 PM

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clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 7:26 PM

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How nice of cogneto to lay down some containers that are self managed

shadow prawn Apr 15, 2022, 7:59 PM

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Oh yeah

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Time for some ouzo and bavarian beer

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clear stag Apr 15, 2022, 8:29 PM

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Greetings

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I'm one of the people jumping ship after wink switched their business model

clever mortar Apr 15, 2022, 8:31 PM

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Welcome to the freedom, and mind blowing flexibility/complexity

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(and the raccoons)

clear stag Apr 15, 2022, 8:33 PM

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For the most part everything works great, but I'm too stubborn to buy a lutron smart bridge for my lights

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 8:40 PM

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Then use something open source

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yuckdoge

shadow prawn Apr 15, 2022, 8:40 PM

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Open source is love

clear stag Apr 15, 2022, 8:51 PM

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i want to see how hard it is to reverse engineer a 433mhz protocol

orchid rose Apr 15, 2022, 8:54 PM

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shadow prawn Time for some ouzo and bavarian beer

That sounds like a terrible combination on so many levels

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 8:54 PM

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Ooof 433

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Just replace it

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yuckdoge

clear stag Apr 15, 2022, 8:55 PM

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that bad, huh?

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 8:55 PM

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Reverse engineering? Probably not, the protocol, yes

orchid rose Apr 15, 2022, 8:55 PM

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433 has very few upsides these days

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I still use some switches since I happen to have them, but I wouldn't bother unless you have/want to

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 8:56 PM

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It is as desirable as Conbee with zha and HAOS

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atx

clear stag Apr 15, 2022, 8:56 PM

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im mainly going with sub ghz to avoid 2.4 interference

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and our internet is already pretty slow

orchid rose Apr 15, 2022, 8:57 PM

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I honestly wouldn't worry about 2.4 interference

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 8:57 PM

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2.4ghz interference isn't really an issue unless you live in an apartment block

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Or have ancient hardware at home

clear stag Apr 15, 2022, 8:58 PM

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its ancient hardware at home

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 8:58 PM

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50+ 2.4g devices of old software?

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If not it isn't an issue

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And even then you'll probably be fine

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ZigBee will cope just fine if you select your channels right

last cedar Apr 15, 2022, 9:02 PM

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clever mortar (and the raccoons)

Come for the flexibilty. Stay for the raccoons!

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https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-pizza-dj-trash-panda-raccoon-dj-trash-panda-party-gif-20643339

Tenor

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 9:04 PM

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surprisedeyes

clear stag Apr 15, 2022, 9:05 PM

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hmm so over about 20 devices run on 2.4 on channel 8

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ig the charts say that i should be fine if i use 11-17 or 22-26

wintry hazel Apr 15, 2022, 9:11 PM

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tardy parrot Im currently studying bachelor of Computer Science majoring in Software Engineer...

Ayu CompSci! I did that but majoring in Networked Systems

clear stag Apr 15, 2022, 9:12 PM

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comp sci majors

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yo

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im planning to do a concentration in networks

wintry hazel Apr 15, 2022, 9:13 PM

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Nice

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 9:13 PM

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Eww school

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LeoKek

wintry hazel Apr 15, 2022, 9:14 PM

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I left the industry for an electrical apprenticeship, which kinda helps with exploring automation

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 9:16 PM

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I gave up on school after vocational training, tried one year at college, didn't like it, did an exam and started my apprenticeship in ICT systems, so i hold two certification of apprenticeship, but no higher education

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Started working 5+ years before all my friends though

wintry hazel Apr 15, 2022, 9:17 PM

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Is certification of apprenticeship what you call your trade qualifications after finishing the apprenticeship?

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 9:17 PM

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Yes

clear stag Apr 15, 2022, 9:17 PM

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kinda wish i did trades

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 9:17 PM

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I have one in ICT and one in electronics repair

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I work in neither today tbf

clear stag Apr 15, 2022, 9:18 PM

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but a few nice cars into debt, might as well finish the degree

wintry hazel Apr 15, 2022, 9:19 PM

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Yeah in electrical, once we finish we get a supervisor licensed that lets us perform electrical installation, maintenance, and repair as well as supervise and train others in the above.

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But yeah sticking with a tertiary degree helps you in certain types of companies to show that you stick with things for a few years. Means if they train you in their business they might make the money back

clear ferry Apr 15, 2022, 9:22 PM

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Thought about going back to school to do a bachelor or a master's

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But I doubt I would gain any financial advantage from it

clear stag Apr 15, 2022, 9:30 PM

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i read up on some people's attempts at reverse engineering the protocol and pretty much nothing has been done

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but there is stuff you can put on a rooted wink hub to make it work with ha

forest edge Apr 15, 2022, 11:33 PM

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clear ferry But I doubt I would gain any financial advantage from it

not to mention it would be a whole new round of people throwing cans at you

umbral cliff Apr 16, 2022, 1:32 AM

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clear ferry Thought about going back to school to do a bachelor or a master's

You could be that annoying mature age student correcting the lecturer

young sigil Apr 16, 2022, 1:47 AM

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clear stag hmm so over about 20 devices run on 2.4 on channel 8

You should look up why you should only be using channel 1, 6, or 11

hushed basalt Apr 16, 2022, 2:21 AM

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https://blog.crunchydata.com/blog/announcing-postgres-container-apps-easy-deploy-postgres-apps

Announcing Postgres Container Apps: Easy Deploy Postgres Apps

With Postgres Container Apps you can, from directly inside Postgres with a simple function call, spin up a container that is running right alongside your Postgres database!

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🤢

static schooner Apr 16, 2022, 2:36 AM

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young sigil You should look up why you should only be using channel 1, 6, or 11

I had an algorithms class in college with a couple of folks who had been in the industry for a few years (not that old) and they blew the curve for the rest of the class

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It was no fun

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They would score 20+ points higher than the next highest test score

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It wasn't a 'correct the prof' thing, but they definitely knew some stuff

velvet horizonBOT Apr 16, 2022, 3:09 AM

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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

young sigil Apr 16, 2022, 3:09 AM

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That is how you share images in #hardware-archived

pure ravine Apr 16, 2022, 3:09 AM

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Oh ok tyty

young sigil Apr 16, 2022, 3:12 AM

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pure ravine Oh ok tyty

If you can't tell if you have a neutral you shouldn't be messing with it. It really does have the potential (no pun) to kill you or your loved ones. Call an electrician.

clear stag Apr 16, 2022, 4:07 AM

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young sigil You should look up why you should only be using channel 1, 6, or 11

?

young sigil Apr 16, 2022, 4:08 AM

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https://www.metageek.com/training/resources/why-channels-1-6-11/

clear stag Apr 16, 2022, 4:09 AM

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oh you mean like that

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thx

young sigil Apr 16, 2022, 4:22 AM

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This relies on your neighbours also only using 1, 6 or 11 though. I have one bastard neighbour using 40MHz on Ch3. 🤬

static schooner Apr 16, 2022, 4:23 AM

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There oughta be a law

young sigil Apr 16, 2022, 4:26 AM

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Heh. I've just noticed that someone has an open AP for a device called "livingroom speaker". What to do, what to do...?

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Random cricket (insect) noises between 1 and 6 am?

forest edge Apr 16, 2022, 4:30 AM

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young sigil You should look up why you should only be using channel 1, 6, or 11

but https://wireguided.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/wifi_an.jpg

static schooner Apr 16, 2022, 4:31 AM

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I have a bunch of Unifi APs spread across 1/6/11 and an Arlo camera system that creates its own 2.4GHz network and tries to align on the channel with your existing 2.4Hz AP. It sees all my APs and invariably picks the channel in the middle (like 3)

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dumbass

forest edge Apr 16, 2022, 4:36 AM

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makes me think of those people who constantly switch out their routers/ap's claiming they came bad or went bad in short time all while enjoying thier popcorn from their 50+ old microwave

umbral cliff Apr 16, 2022, 6:37 AM

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I’ve never actually experienced interference from a microwave before funnily enough, even the one at my parents house which is older than me and the wifi is still fine

hushed basalt Apr 16, 2022, 7:50 AM

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Ideally a microwave shouldn't leak

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But there's always some leakage

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But there's a lot of factors if it will even be perceivably noticeable or even have any effect at all

clear stag Apr 16, 2022, 7:55 AM

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bought an sdr and it should arrive in about a week

hushed basalt Apr 16, 2022, 8:03 AM

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SDR?

clear ferry Apr 16, 2022, 8:08 AM

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umbral cliff You could be that annoying mature age student correcting the lecturer

I was that at the first round of school anyway

young sigil Apr 16, 2022, 8:25 AM

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hushed basalt SDR?

Software Defined Radio.

forest edge Apr 16, 2022, 8:34 AM

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lol does the discord support for up to 4 alt's bypass server bans?

umbral cliff Apr 16, 2022, 8:56 AM

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Presumably, but you’ve only got 4 alts then. No different than logging in through the web browser to avoid bans

last cedar Apr 16, 2022, 9:41 AM

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young sigil This relies on your neighbours also only using 1, 6 or 11 though. I have one bas...

Living in your own house is amazing for this

clear ferry Apr 16, 2022, 10:00 AM

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And not living in rekkehus @last cedar

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LeoKek

young sigil Apr 16, 2022, 10:09 AM

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But I like living in the neighbours houses. Only the ones with crawl spaces big enough though.

clear ferry Apr 16, 2022, 10:27 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/juon-toshio-grudge-gif-5508449

Tenor

Juon

▶ Play video

hushed basalt Apr 16, 2022, 10:29 AM

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Easter tomorrow

shadow prawn Apr 16, 2022, 10:33 AM

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#the-water-cooler message

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https://tenor.com/view/no-steve-carrell-michael-scott-the-office-gif-5910275

Tenor

last cedar Apr 16, 2022, 11:02 AM

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hushed basalt Easter tomorrow

hell yeah

fallow karma Apr 16, 2022, 11:45 AM

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BB egg

hushed basalt Apr 16, 2022, 1:33 PM

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shadow prawn https://tenor.com/view/no-steve-carrell-michael-scott-the-office-gif-5910275

https://c.tenor.com/D2o-RaOjbWgAAAAM/you-mad.gif

shadow prawn Apr 16, 2022, 1:35 PM

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Yes

hushed basalt Apr 16, 2022, 1:35 PM

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fallow karma

Why would you paint a perfectly good chocolate with that creamy colour,

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Like some sort of weird shell

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Cadbury uses foil to cover their eggs have you tried that

fallow karma Apr 16, 2022, 2:03 PM

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It's regular egg, not chockolate one ;)

static schooner Apr 16, 2022, 2:39 PM

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It only counts if it was laid by a bunny

clear ferry Apr 16, 2022, 2:41 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/happy-easter-chicken-easter-egg-baby-cute-gif-16861328

Tenor

young sigil Apr 16, 2022, 3:25 PM

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fallow karma It's regular egg, not chockolate one ;)

https://tenor.com/view/superman-joke-gif-7319521

Tenor

hushed basalt Apr 16, 2022, 3:29 PM

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fallow karma It's regular egg, not chockolate one ;)

Funny. Next you'll tell me milk comes from animals or something

low harness Apr 16, 2022, 3:35 PM

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Nasty

hushed basalt Apr 16, 2022, 3:38 PM

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https://c.tenor.com/uL5Orbbx91UAAAAM/chocolate-milk-cow-chocolate-milk.gif

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https://c.tenor.com/e3qBLwCE9Y4AAAAM/गाय-दूध.gif

fallow karma Apr 16, 2022, 3:54 PM

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hushed basalt Funny. Next you'll tell me milk comes from animals or something

Sure it is not. From refrigerator

last cedar Apr 16, 2022, 4:31 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/megopigs-udder-cow-udder-legs-gif-14130704

Tenor

clear ferry Apr 16, 2022, 4:37 PM

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I just saw the most PC babies bullshit I've ever seen

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The little mermaid on Disney plus

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Started with a warning

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"inneholder tobakksskildring"

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"contains stuff that looks like tobacco"

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In other words, Sebastian smoking a water bubble pipe

static schooner Apr 16, 2022, 4:47 PM

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sounds more like a bong

clear ferry Apr 16, 2022, 4:48 PM

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Screenshot_2022-04-16-18-47-43-32_4641ebc0df1485bf6b47ebd018b5ee76.jpg

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It was actually a real pipe

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Oh no, think of the children

static schooner Apr 16, 2022, 4:49 PM

#

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it might have scarred me for life

clear ferry Apr 16, 2022, 4:50 PM

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You were 45 when it was released though

static schooner Apr 16, 2022, 4:50 PM

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well, that seems unlikely

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I'll go with "an older teenager"

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definitely not the LM demo

clear ferry Apr 16, 2022, 4:54 PM

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Only 29 then

feral ivy Apr 16, 2022, 5:00 PM

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anyone got a second to give some input on a pcb repair I am working on

fallow karma Apr 16, 2022, 5:01 PM

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feral ivy Apr 16, 2022, 5:05 PM

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think thatis enough trace left lol

clear ferry Apr 16, 2022, 5:15 PM

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What on earth happened there

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Shelling?

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A fire?

feral ivy Apr 16, 2022, 5:28 PM

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trying to alvage a board had saltwater corosion

clear ferry Apr 16, 2022, 5:30 PM

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What is the board?

feral ivy Apr 16, 2022, 5:32 PM

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is a old 8266 magichome controller

clear ferry Apr 16, 2022, 5:34 PM

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So you are trying to salvage a board worth $3 ? Yeah with that damage I'll just order five of them and still save money based on time

feral ivy Apr 16, 2022, 5:34 PM

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i'm cheap and hate throwing out stuff lmao

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plus it was working up until 3 days ago so figured was worth a shot

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and have had very little luck sourcing the pree BL led controllers so figured I would see if i could save this one rather than trash it

clear ferry Apr 16, 2022, 5:36 PM

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I ordered a "magichome" controller two months ago that is currently flashed with tasmota Shrug

feral ivy Apr 16, 2022, 5:37 PM

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got a link? everyone I seem to order has the new BL chip in it

clear ferry Apr 16, 2022, 5:42 PM

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scenic radish Apr 16, 2022, 5:43 PM

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Athom has preflashed ones

feral ivy Apr 16, 2022, 5:43 PM

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cool thank you that should work ill just have to move the board over into the harness for the old one

clear ferry Apr 16, 2022, 5:44 PM

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That's the one I ordered in January at least

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Exact same posting

feral ivy Apr 16, 2022, 5:45 PM

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thank you

fallow karma Apr 16, 2022, 6:20 PM

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Guys, which software do you use to backup your HA storage raw copy?

clever mortar Apr 16, 2022, 6:22 PM

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#general-archived message

forest edge Apr 16, 2022, 6:32 PM

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clear ferry I just saw the most PC babies bullshit I've ever seen

least it was a warning. in some games if the character had a cigar or cigarettes they just straight up removed it and patched the game. totally killed off the whole characters defining trait

static schooner Apr 16, 2022, 6:39 PM

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Should have replaced it with a lollipop ala ET

fallow karma Apr 16, 2022, 6:40 PM

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And imagine some movie characters without somoking

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#

#

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clever mortar Apr 16, 2022, 6:43 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/the-mask-smokin-gif-14216700

Tenor

fallow karma Apr 16, 2022, 6:44 PM

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#

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Ok, it was.last one i remember

orchid rose Apr 16, 2022, 7:02 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/draper-don-mad-men-gif-18015147

Tenor

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(not a movie, but I'll let it slide)

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And no Audrey Hepburn? Smh

forest edge Apr 16, 2022, 7:13 PM

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static schooner Should have replaced it with a lollipop ala ET

i remember candy cigarettes. never cared for how they tasted but they use to be all over, now you can't find them anywhere.

static schooner Apr 16, 2022, 7:13 PM

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Yeah, I 'member

forest edge Apr 16, 2022, 7:38 PM

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does anyone in here use tasker to run sh scripts?

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they want like 4 bucks for that app and not sure just how well it can run custom sh scripts

clever mortar Apr 16, 2022, 7:40 PM

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Run shell scripts on the phone?

forest edge Apr 16, 2022, 7:44 PM

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yea

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one thing i read said you could either enter the code directly in tasker or call to a file

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but not sure what the limitations are if any

clear ferry Apr 16, 2022, 8:11 PM

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Mad men almost made me start smoking again

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Because damn, they lit the new cigarette with the old one

orchid rose Apr 16, 2022, 8:17 PM

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I wanted those aviator glasses instead

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Then I looked in the mirror and decided I probably wouldn't look quite as cool as Jon Hamm anyway

static schooner Apr 16, 2022, 8:20 PM

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Few do

clear ferry Apr 16, 2022, 8:20 PM

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Jon Hamm makes me question my heterosexuality

midnight adder Apr 16, 2022, 8:55 PM

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Greetings. Is there any robot vacuum that has opensource software or that can work without accessing internet past the LAN? Anyone has experience with this?

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privacy preserving robot with lidar or vision

clever mortar Apr 16, 2022, 8:58 PM

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https://github.com/Hypfer/Valetudo

forest edge Apr 16, 2022, 9:01 PM

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clear ferry Jon Hamm makes me question my heterosexuality

that's just the mix up of estrogen you been taking

midnight adder Apr 16, 2022, 9:02 PM

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clever mortar <https://github.com/Hypfer/Valetudo>

thanks

midnight adder Apr 16, 2022, 9:22 PM

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this is amazing

orchid rose Apr 16, 2022, 9:29 PM

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forest edge that's just the mix up of estrogen you been taking

Perfectly normal mancrush

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If you've never had one you're hiding something from yourself

clear ferry Apr 16, 2022, 9:42 PM

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Hey, don't talk about men above the age of 50 repressing their feelings

forest edge Apr 16, 2022, 10:03 PM

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orchid rose Perfectly normal mancrush

I disgree with that statement whole heartedly but then kids born these days are a little ... off

scenic radish Apr 16, 2022, 10:04 PM

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ok_boomer

orchid rose Apr 16, 2022, 10:04 PM

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I won't be arguing on that point. It's not the right place

forest edge Apr 16, 2022, 10:06 PM

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lol @scenic radish you still fall within that range so understandable reaction

scenic radish Apr 16, 2022, 10:06 PM

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Within...what range

forest edge Apr 16, 2022, 10:07 PM

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the range when the world started going touchy feely

clear ferry Apr 16, 2022, 10:07 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/ok-boomer-the-office-old-man-michael-scott-gif-15530652

Tenor

scenic radish Apr 16, 2022, 10:07 PM

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I'm 29 😂

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But okay

forest edge Apr 16, 2022, 10:08 PM

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about 12-13 years too young

clear ferry Apr 16, 2022, 10:08 PM

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By that statement you agree that the world went touchy feely at one point @scenic radish

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at_det_var

forest edge Apr 16, 2022, 10:08 PM

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rip

scenic radish Apr 16, 2022, 10:08 PM

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MindBlown

clear ferry Apr 16, 2022, 10:09 PM

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But yes, when the world corrected itself for most would be a better term

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Most of the world that is

forest edge Apr 16, 2022, 10:10 PM

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eh...

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that's a stretch lol

clear ferry Apr 16, 2022, 10:10 PM

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But damn Disney warning me about cartoon people smoking pipes

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yuckdoge

forest edge Apr 16, 2022, 10:11 PM

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they didn't want to be sued for the kids taking up crack after watching it

clear ferry Apr 16, 2022, 10:11 PM

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But suing is an American problem

forest edge Apr 16, 2022, 10:11 PM

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and real bad one at that

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and it's only gotten worse

clear ferry Apr 16, 2022, 10:11 PM

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So you are the touchy feely people then

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atx

scenic radish Apr 16, 2022, 10:12 PM

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Sonoma...admitting something is wrong with the US? What have you done with the real Sonoma?

clear ferry Apr 16, 2022, 10:12 PM

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He's dead

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In my basement

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Feeding my racks

forest edge Apr 16, 2022, 10:12 PM

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current us = shit, past us = awesome

clear ferry Apr 16, 2022, 10:12 PM

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With at least two brain cells of AI

scenic radish Apr 16, 2022, 10:13 PM

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Past US meaning...when exactly?

forest edge Apr 16, 2022, 10:13 PM

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yea remember that thinking emoji when someone steals your bike

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80's was awesome

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but anything prior to the 80's was good

clear ferry Apr 16, 2022, 10:13 PM

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When he got rejected by Lilly-Ann Bojanls @scenic radish

forest edge Apr 16, 2022, 10:13 PM

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people still "worked" for a living

scenic radish Apr 16, 2022, 10:16 PM

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what

clear ferry Apr 16, 2022, 10:16 PM

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yuckdoge

forest edge Apr 16, 2022, 10:16 PM

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can't believe you guys pay for nitro lol

scenic radish Apr 16, 2022, 10:16 PM

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forest edge but anything prior to the 80's was good

So by that logic, segregation was good...interesting take

clear ferry Apr 16, 2022, 10:17 PM

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goaSagiriJudge

forest edge Apr 16, 2022, 10:18 PM

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isn't segregation still a thing? the news says it is

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atleast name something that has actually gone away lol

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and i'm not talking about the 1800's

scenic radish Apr 16, 2022, 10:27 PM

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You can't seriously tell me you don't know that

forest edge Apr 16, 2022, 10:27 PM

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know what

scenic radish Apr 16, 2022, 10:28 PM

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forest edge atleast name something that has actually gone away lol

This

forest edge Apr 16, 2022, 10:28 PM

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are you implying segregation is actually abolished?

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or maybe just what you deem as the meaning of segregation?

scenic radish Apr 16, 2022, 10:30 PM

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Racial issues definitely still exist, but you certainly don't see "whites only" facilities anymore

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You saying "anything prior to the '80s was good" is a bit of a dangerous statement

forest edge Apr 16, 2022, 10:30 PM

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yea see, you are plucking what you deem as the meaning of the word, but that isn't it's entirely

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according to the news segregation is still happening, just not that part of you are refering to

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like jobs, treatment etc etc

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so yea my statement was accurate

scenic radish Apr 16, 2022, 10:32 PM

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Okay lol

forest edge Apr 16, 2022, 10:34 PM

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American's have lost the meaning of a lot of core values people use to have, unless you were alive to see it then it's impossible for you to understand. You see the world as it is now, with no experience of what it was prior.

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reminds of that part in back to the future when those kids were trying to figure out how to operate that arcade machine and then when marty shows them they say it's a babies game cause you had to use your hands

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that was a perfect analogy

hushed basalt Apr 16, 2022, 10:36 PM

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scenic radish I'm 29 😂

https://c.tenor.com/6Armfx18KqAAAAAM/baby-girl.gif

orchid rose Apr 16, 2022, 10:38 PM

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How old are you Sonoma?

forest edge Apr 16, 2022, 10:38 PM

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a lady never reveals her age

clear ferry Apr 16, 2022, 10:39 PM

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69

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yuckdoge

orchid rose Apr 16, 2022, 10:39 PM

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nice

forest edge Apr 16, 2022, 10:40 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/69-gif-21938768

Tenor

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I will say up till the Ukraine invasion I was a little concerned that if the US would get into another war we'd get our asses handed to us but after seeing Russia being just as sloppy and unprepared I now know the rest of the world has grown fat and lazy as well, well cept maybe N Korea

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the pandemic really showed us that we just fall on our butts lol

hushed basalt Apr 17, 2022, 12:13 AM

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You just wait until Australia activates the dropbear special forces

forest edge Apr 17, 2022, 3:31 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/dropbears-gif-22887135

Tenor

glacial knot Apr 17, 2022, 3:32 AM

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hushed basalt You just wait until Australia activates the dropbear special forces

Do they ssh into your servers?

last cedar Apr 17, 2022, 5:31 AM

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forest edge I will say up till the Ukraine invasion I was a little concerned that if the US ...

It seems a large horde of flies could do a lot of damage, I am sure the US would do just fine

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I just really dislike all the threats of nuclear retaliation if Finland (and Sweden? Not seen that written down) went with Nato.

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 6:13 AM

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Ooof, Google photo reminded me of a networking issue I had to solve 10 years ago

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Screenshot_2022-04-17-08-11-27-81_965bbf4d18d205f782c6b8409c5773a4.jpg

last cedar Apr 17, 2022, 7:01 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/brutus-beef-cake-brutus-brutus-the-barber-grass-cutter-gif-12014344

Tenor

last cedar Apr 17, 2022, 7:02 AM

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clear ferry Ooof, Google photo reminded me of a networking issue I had to solve 10 years ago

It was DNS right?

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 7:03 AM

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We don't use nameservers that much in fibre channel

last cedar Apr 17, 2022, 7:31 AM

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Lies. You can clearly see that "Bengt" cable shouldn't be plugged into "Torbjörns" port. Ffs

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 7:38 AM

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yuckdoge

low harness Apr 17, 2022, 8:07 AM

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I also think it was DNS. Something you did probably caused it to reset so it "fixed itself" and you just missed it. Happens all the time.

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 8:09 AM

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PU_PeepoLeaveExit

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 11:42 AM

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https://i.redd.it/nl7lvkmxh1u81.jpg

glacial knot Apr 17, 2022, 12:22 PM

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I have a colleague who insists that his wifi is fine
And then gets confused when we tell him his call quality is ass

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 12:28 PM

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glacial knot I have a colleague who insists that his wifi is fine And then gets confused when...

Wouldn’t call quality be the isp reception? Or is he using wifi calling

glacial knot Apr 17, 2022, 12:32 PM

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zoom 😉 Who still uses normal phone calling?

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 12:34 PM

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Me? It’s convenient to call my parents or companies

hushed basalt Apr 17, 2022, 12:35 PM

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clear ferry

This is why all work sites need a chief person in charge

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Who's responsible for this shit

glacial knot Apr 17, 2022, 12:35 PM

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My parents have both zoom and teams 😄

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 12:35 PM

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Even calling my parents is wifi calling these days

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when I call their mobile phone

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 12:36 PM

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It would be wifi calling except international links are shite

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 12:36 PM

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I can't remember the last call I had that was over a phone line, except wifi calling my parents

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all job calls go via teams

hushed basalt Apr 17, 2022, 12:36 PM

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I recommend just using Runescape DMs to talk to people

glacial knot Apr 17, 2022, 12:36 PM

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I don't call international with my phone at all. The online native alternatives don't have this misconception that it should be more expensive

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 12:36 PM

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all friend calls go via messenger or facetime

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 12:37 PM

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glacial knot I don't call international with my phone at all. The online native alternatives ...

It’s all free for me so same cost

hushed basalt Apr 17, 2022, 12:37 PM

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Google has built and removed like 14 chat services since Runescape has been alive

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It really is the one universal medium

glacial knot Apr 17, 2022, 12:38 PM

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the phone contracts here that include international calling are stupid expensive

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 12:38 PM

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If they’re not free here it’s $10 a month for fully unlimited international calls

late gate Apr 17, 2022, 12:38 PM

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Is it currently Fedora that has the best CUDA support? Im going to run a quattro GPU for frigate/doubletake etc and proxmox/debian and ubuntu is using really old runtimes, where fedora has at least officially supported newer cuda runtimes

glacial knot Apr 17, 2022, 12:39 PM

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self host XMPP at home 🙂

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 12:39 PM

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glacial knot self host XMPP at home 🙂

And that easily rings a work mobile phone? Like what my mum uses

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 12:39 PM

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you can install any cuda versions you want on any linux version

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so not sure what the limitations you mention are

glacial knot Apr 17, 2022, 12:40 PM

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I'd have 0 issues getting my mom onto it. But it was mostly towards badtelco's comment

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 12:40 PM

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My mum doesn’t want to install non work stuff on her work phone (understandably) so being able to ring my parents mobiles or their home phone (and my grandma who struggles to use the internet generally) is convenient

late gate Apr 17, 2022, 12:40 PM

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Im referring to this chart, https://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/cuda-installation-guide-linux/index.html @clear ferry

Installation Guide Linux :: CUDA Toolkit Documentation

The installation instructions for the CUDA Toolkit on Linux.

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 12:42 PM

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which part, it just tells you the prereqs for the os', and how to install cuda after meeting said prereqs

late gate Apr 17, 2022, 12:44 PM

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I see. Currently running proxmox on the computer, and I dont find it the most stable install. Used LXC for frigate, and worked fine, until the IP stack started to malfunction (scattered ping out of the LXC etc). Strange behaviour in other words

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 12:46 PM

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ew

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proxmox

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ew

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lxc

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then you are probably best of running a vm and passing through the cuda device and doing everything in said vm

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but ew layers of abstraction

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 12:49 PM

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clear ferry proxmox

Proxmox is great

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 12:50 PM

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🤢

late gate Apr 17, 2022, 12:50 PM

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well everything is ew for you. Though with proxmox im semi agreed. Never seemed to have super luck with it. With my super simple setup / requirement I guess the cleanest is bare metal linux with docker and docker cuda support with nvidia drivers and google coral drivers on the host. With LXC I need to duplicate the drivers to the containers, and for nvidia that can be a pain even if quattro support being shared by several instances

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 12:50 PM

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it's advertised as just being software on top of debian, but in my eyes it is still an appliance with limitations

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lxc is also ew

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docker makes more sense for 99% of cases

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 12:51 PM

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I like using proxmox to split the usage of one computer

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Convenient for me

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 12:51 PM

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then you can just learn something in the process and run debian + docker + kvm

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you just learned three skills

late gate Apr 17, 2022, 12:52 PM

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but that ends up bein metal -> lxc -> docker as its "bad" to run docker on the metal on a proxmox install

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 12:52 PM

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I just run 3 Debian installs running docker on each (doing separate tasks) and my main desktop OS (popOS) so virtualising works for me

glacial knot Apr 17, 2022, 12:53 PM

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why do you run 3 debians with docker instead of one with docker? o.0

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 12:53 PM

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Because it makes it easier for me

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 12:53 PM

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does it ?

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DOES IT ?

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 12:53 PM

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Yes

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 12:53 PM

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wtf

glacial knot Apr 17, 2022, 12:54 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 12:54 PM

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https://tenor.com/5ZJw.gif

Tenor

glacial knot Apr 17, 2022, 12:54 PM

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maybe they aren't just upside down, but also backwards down under 😂

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 12:54 PM

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I prefer having things separated for that stuff. Just makes sense for me

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 12:54 PM

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https://tenor.com/bEqXn.gif

Tenor

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 12:54 PM

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Not that it really changes anything being split vs all in one

late gate Apr 17, 2022, 12:55 PM

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I prefer less work

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 12:55 PM

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three OS' to maintain

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the definition of overhead

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😄

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 12:55 PM

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Not really that hard to do

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Once a week do an apt update/ upgrade and that’s all

glacial knot Apr 17, 2022, 12:56 PM

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docker is the separation 😄

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 12:56 PM

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Works perfectly fine for me so Im happy with it

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 12:56 PM

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you could just seperate them into three different docker networks \ docker stacks 🤔

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 12:57 PM

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I like how I do it

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 12:57 PM

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it makes sense in a test \ dev - qa - production sense

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but Shrug

glacial knot Apr 17, 2022, 12:57 PM

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QA 😂

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 12:57 PM

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yes, the bit HAOS does least

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KEK

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and also why I never run less than .3 of HA giggle

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 12:59 PM

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I’m surprised you’re running HA from 2022 ngl

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Thought you would’ve gone 🤢 to the move away from yaml

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 1:00 PM

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I update at least once a month

glacial knot Apr 17, 2022, 1:01 PM

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I should update mine. And need to take a look at the move away from one of the most annoying formats 😄

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 1:01 PM

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I'm not surprised yaml would be killed, gotta cater to the people who actually pay for the product without knowing what they are doing

late gate Apr 17, 2022, 1:02 PM

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I see no issue moving more to the GUI

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 1:03 PM

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I open the GUI maybe once a week, if that, so yes, it would be an issue if I would have to do five clicks to do three lines of yaml

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 1:03 PM

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Allowing more people to utilise HA seems only advantageous tbh

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 1:03 PM

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it is the path forward of any product that developers want to make money off

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 1:03 PM

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Given people like us who know how to self host don’t make them any money, not surprising

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 1:04 PM

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https://tenor.com/bhetU.gif

Tenor

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 1:04 PM

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I’m happy to keep HA running tbh

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Given how useful it is

late gate Apr 17, 2022, 1:05 PM

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As long as they do the GUI nicely caugh Homeseer caugh

glacial knot Apr 17, 2022, 1:05 PM

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just make sure atx uses the supervised gui

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 1:06 PM

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just waiting for supervisor to be mandatory

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so I can jump the ship

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LeoKek

late gate Apr 17, 2022, 1:06 PM

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where would you go?

glacial knot Apr 17, 2022, 1:07 PM

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openhab 😂 it's enterprise. It's java!

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 1:07 PM

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clear ferry just waiting for supervisor to be mandatory

If that happens they would lose a lot of people, even those paying

late gate Apr 17, 2022, 1:08 PM

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java...

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 1:08 PM

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I'd run HASSWP ofcourse!

late gate Apr 17, 2022, 1:10 PM

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Im actually running HASSOS on the NUC as I just want it to work. I dont want to tinker the home automation system. Never been a problem except the lack of mounting ext4 on the OS

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 1:11 PM

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ew

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 1:11 PM

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A lot of people unsurprisingly don’t want to tinker

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Even if it may shock you

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 1:12 PM

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yes, the reason I have a job

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the world is full of n00bs

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😄

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https://tenor.com/bvosF.gif

Tenor

glacial knot Apr 17, 2022, 1:13 PM

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clear ferry https://tenor.com/bvosF.gif

k.

late gate Apr 17, 2022, 1:16 PM

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I guess thats why homey is so popular, though never been a fan after trying it 2-3 times

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 1:24 PM

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tried to get a friend to use ha

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he bought a homey

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just 4500NOK

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for a limited product

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gr8 value

late gate Apr 17, 2022, 1:24 PM

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no wonder how much homey is advertised here in norway

glacial knot Apr 17, 2022, 1:24 PM

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450€ for an app? o.0

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 1:25 PM

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That was the homey pro

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now they only sell the cloud hub I think

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 1:25 PM

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What is the homey

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 1:25 PM

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so you only have a radio locally

late gate Apr 17, 2022, 1:25 PM

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homey pro is so weak you have to put pause in your automations to wait for things like zwave reply

glacial knot Apr 17, 2022, 1:25 PM

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cloud only 🤢

late gate Apr 17, 2022, 1:28 PM

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homey you have to pay subscription for taking a backup or all lost in hw failure or update error

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 1:30 PM

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Lolololol

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I hope their servers crash

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Pulling an insteon

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Just vanishing

late gate Apr 17, 2022, 1:31 PM

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If homey go bankrupt you have a brick

clever mortar Apr 17, 2022, 1:31 PM

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So, a Wink special

late gate Apr 17, 2022, 1:31 PM

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Its pretty though, box and UI

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thats the only positive thing

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 1:32 PM

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Sounds like it had good intents but failed badly

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 1:32 PM

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Yeah, I've always wanted a globe in my living room

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 1:32 PM

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By going cloud only

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 1:32 PM

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clear ferry Yeah, I've always wanted a globe in my living room

You guys only use candles in Norway?

late gate Apr 17, 2022, 1:32 PM

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the cloud only is the new thing

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 1:32 PM

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umbral cliff You guys only use candles in Norway?

https://tenor.com/view/holoomen-globe-hololive-earthglobe-gif-22728909

Tenor

late gate Apr 17, 2022, 1:33 PM

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even the box itself is just 2,4ghz wifi and no ethernet, so in my house, when I tried it, then it had issues keeping connected so had to write an automation to reboot it when connection was lost

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 1:33 PM

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Oh ew wifi

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 1:33 PM

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Lol disgusting

late gate Apr 17, 2022, 1:33 PM

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Home Automation should use cable

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 1:34 PM

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I understand including it for those who just want a set and forget hub, but should have 100mbps Ethernet at the least

late gate Apr 17, 2022, 1:35 PM

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Yeah. I like what yellow does though. Offering a POE ethernet.

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Im going to try it at least, if just to support HA dev

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Just would hope CM5 will fit as I think CM4 got a tad to little power

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 1:36 PM

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Yellow sounds like a great alternative if you already use a pi, useless otherwise

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 1:36 PM

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You lost me at the first part, but got me at the second part

late gate Apr 17, 2022, 1:36 PM

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In the big picture an old NUC can sound fast, but old CPUs get slow too

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 1:37 PM

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Modern minicomputers run very low power, low heat

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And offer a lot more options and headroom

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 1:37 PM

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Some people just wanna run HA and that’s it

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Let them have basic if they want

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 1:38 PM

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You mean the same users that install 4000 add-ons

umbral cliff Apr 17, 2022, 1:38 PM

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Yes

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They can learn the hard way

late gate Apr 17, 2022, 1:39 PM

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Im an advanced user, but would not mind a yellow in the living room with a zwave dongle in it to keep it as one unit. But I run most addons (influx, mysql etc on a nas)

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so its not much resource drain on the home automation computer

finite atlas Apr 17, 2022, 2:41 PM

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glacial knot I have a colleague who insists that his wifi is fine And then gets confused when...

my biggest issue is bufferbloat, besides that, my wifi works just fine where i have coverage
but i do prefer a ethernet cable

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 3:06 PM

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WiFi is fine, for mobile devices

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I deployed my $100 Linksys velop system 3+ years ago

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Haven't touched it since

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It just works

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Just had to bridge the nonsense

late gate Apr 17, 2022, 3:27 PM

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Linksys 🤢

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 3:33 PM

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Three access points for a few Caffe lattes, covers my whole house and driveway, haven't touched them in 3+ years, no Cloud nonsense or low moral company behind it

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Can't argue

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And gets me 600Mbps without any tinkering

finite atlas Apr 17, 2022, 3:39 PM

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after touching openwrt, i'll likely never get a router again thats not supported by it

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 4:01 PM

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yuckdoge

finite atlas Apr 17, 2022, 4:18 PM

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smile

cedar chasm Apr 17, 2022, 5:31 PM

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Are they actually killing off yaml or are we just extrapolating from groups being doable from the GUI now?

clever mortar Apr 17, 2022, 5:32 PM

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There's an ADR about it, and some really long forum threads, please don't resurrect this...

The short answer is no. The long answer is complex.

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https://community.home-assistant.io/t/the-future-of-yaml/186879/

cedar chasm Apr 17, 2022, 5:33 PM

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dessurecting, no problem

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 5:34 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/addams-family-kill-gif-8807052

Tenor

static schooner Apr 17, 2022, 5:35 PM

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cedar chasm dessurecting, no problem

Back into he cave

cedar chasm Apr 17, 2022, 5:36 PM

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Oh damn, we got easter-topical somehow

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I feel like I need to do penance now

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 5:36 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/what-up-its-ya-boy-jesus-motoki-moretoki-hey-there-whats-the-deal-gif-24930291

Tenor

cedar chasm Apr 17, 2022, 5:37 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/save-save-me-simpsons-cartoon-gif-5436549

Tenor

save

▶ Play video

gritty crescent Apr 17, 2022, 5:48 PM

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I have an... applied home automation problem Im phishing for opinions on

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Moving across the country with a uhaul and I'm gonna need to stay overnight 3-4 nights at hotels along the way and I want to have it constantly monitored

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Best idea that's stuck around is airtags. Everything else seems to require some sort of wifi. Trail cameras would get me close but the distance is still probably too far

clever mortar Apr 17, 2022, 5:52 PM

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What do you mean by wanting it constantly monitored?

clear ferry Apr 17, 2022, 5:53 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/oakdice-runescape-gif-18004007

Tenor

clever mortar Apr 17, 2022, 5:53 PM

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If you really want that you'll need some form of 4G hotspot device, assuming you get connectivity in the truck

fiery sorrel Apr 17, 2022, 6:06 PM

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i haven't seen anything chocolate related yet, how many of you are sick after eating to much ?

clever mortar Apr 17, 2022, 6:10 PM

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What is too much chocolate?

fiery sorrel Apr 17, 2022, 6:11 PM

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when your bank call you to ask if the 5000€ spend in switzerland are normal

gritty crescent Apr 17, 2022, 6:12 PM

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clever mortar What do you mean by wanting it constantly monitored?

Wanting some sort of detection/notification at night when I'm in the hotel

clever mortar Apr 17, 2022, 6:13 PM

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fiery sorrel when your bank call you to ask if the 5000€ spend in switzerland are normal

Cadbury used to do 1.5 Kg bars of Dairy Milk... ablobdrool

fiery sorrel Apr 17, 2022, 6:13 PM

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oufff

clever mortar Apr 17, 2022, 6:13 PM

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I mean, that's a bit much for a single sitting

fiery sorrel Apr 17, 2022, 6:13 PM

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I laid on my back for 30mn this afternoon, i over did it

clever mortar Apr 17, 2022, 6:14 PM

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I'm waiting until tomorrow, when the stores will have all their eggs on sale for half price (or less)

fiery sorrel Apr 17, 2022, 6:14 PM

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smart

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i usually do that with the small sugar egg and the hard-marshmallow like candy they sell here for easter, but i need my egg hunting on time

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i'm a grow up ok 😠

clever mortar Apr 17, 2022, 6:16 PM

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Age is a state of mind...

midnight adder Apr 17, 2022, 6:17 PM

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Good evening, Im new here 🍞

clever mortar Apr 17, 2022, 6:17 PM

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Another Insteon sufferer?

midnight adder Apr 17, 2022, 6:18 PM

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Not really (~~of course~~)