the-water-cooler

[glacial knot]

which only contains 2 images

[clear ferry]

But I didn't pay anything, it was free @umbral cliff

[umbral cliff]

image of atx?

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/2OjP.gif

[glacial knot]

no

[restive vapor]

I run my Minecraft server on a vps cz of I am lazy to port forward and I am locked out of my router

[clear ferry]

ew minecraft

[glacial knot]

what are you? 12?

[restive vapor]

13

[restive vapor]

Why not

[umbral cliff]

How are you locked out of your router? Your parents?

[clear ferry]

Same as you then @umbral cliff ?

[umbral cliff]

... fuck off Atx, lest I side with Sonoma in the future 😛

[clear ferry]

Oh no

anyway

[restive vapor]

Fliped the remote access setting and accidentally save without reading the warning then get locked out

[forest edge]

I played rust with a 22 year old still living with his parents who locked down the router, they even did parental lock and shut down internet access to his lan port in his room after 10pm. was funny shit

[umbral cliff]

Remote access should've just been from internet side not local

[umbral cliff]

Tf, thats insane

[clear ferry]

Ew living home after 16

[umbral cliff]

Houses are expensive man

[restive vapor]

Idk but it blocked both site with a not authorized error

[clear ferry]

Pssh, just buy one @umbral cliff

[umbral cliff]

Both site? You tried 192.168.0.1/192.168.1.1/10.0.0.1?

[restive vapor]

My router IP is on 192.168.0.1

[umbral cliff]

Ah yes with all this money I have

[clear ferry]

[restive vapor]

Straight up

No login screen

[umbral cliff]

Also mobile data -> E? You on 2G still??

[glacial knot]

Have you tried /login?

maybe it's just dumb

[restive vapor]

It's just bad connection in my house

[umbral cliff]

Surprised your country still has a 2G network

[restive vapor]

Yes lol
If I get outside my apartment I get 4g

[glacial knot]

sounds like 20th century high iron bricks

[restive vapor]

Yes
I am on the 16 floor

[glacial knot]

D: I don't think I've ever been in a residential building that high 😄

[dusky plank]

there's this real cheap house in germany rn, you might need to be fast though. demand is high

[glacial knot]

drachelb

[shadow prawn]

Yeah that one

Haggebuttne

[clear ferry]

It at least appears to have a roof

[dusky plank]

the previous* owner is probably the most hated person in the world

[shadow prawn]

After putin

[dusky plank]

not sure

[shadow prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/drachenlord-rainer-winkler-gif-20035566

[glacial knot]

well, half the hate for him is people being idiots and memeing

[clear ferry]

Speaking of hated, isn't Fritzl supposed to be let out this year

[glacial knot]

they let him out? o.0

[clear ferry]

Thought I read it somewhere

[dusky plank]

guess they will reevaluate the penalty, or he gets into closed institution

[glacial knot]

The sentence was life. does Austria also map that to 15 years?

would still be at least until next year /shrug

I'm somewhat amused by the amount of music inspired by him https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Fritzl#Musik

the simple english page does mention that he might be released after 15 years. which would be 23 or 24 depending on when they start counting

[dusky plank]

they won't, I'm sure

[glacial knot]

How many years does he have left either way? He was over 70 when they put him in

[clear ferry]

I'm amazed how someone can look like a 1960s cartoon villain

[glacial knot]

hm? Did you look in a mirror?

[clear ferry]

I thankfully do not have a Fritzl mustache

[glacial knot]

you'd have more hair on your face than on your head then

[clear ferry]

[umbral cliff]

Who is it?

[shadow prawn]

Rainer Winkler

[green inlet]

But a bitch still ain’t one 😉

[low harness]

*1.14

[clear ferry]

If y'all though inflation was bad in 2021

just wait for 2022

Nice, the Storage pool used to be 92% full

NAME         SIZE  ALLOC   FREE  CKPOINT  EXPANDSZ   FRAG    CAP  DEDUP    HEALTH  ALTROOT
SSD-stripe  1.73T   418G  1.33T        -         -     1%    23%  1.00x    ONLINE  -
Storage     36.3T  26.4T  9.90T        -         -    12%    72%  1.00x    ONLINE  -
Storage2TB  5.44T   175G  5.27T        -         -     4%     3%  1.00x    ONLINE  -
Storage6TB  16.4T  2.29T  14.1T        -         -     8%    14%  1.00x    ONLINE  -

Cleaning helps, so I can stall buying new drives

[low harness]

"Storage6TB" "SIZE 16.4T" 🤔

[clear ferry]

It's made up of 6TB drives

[low harness]

With 9% overhead?

[clear ferry]

  pool: Storage6TB
 state: ONLINE
  scan: scrub in progress since Fri Mar  4 05:00:03 2022
    2.29T scanned at 76.0M/s, 1.82T issued at 60.4M/s, 2.29T total
    0B repaired, 79.45% done, 02:16:21 to go
config:

    NAME                                      STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM
    Storage6TB                                ONLINE       0     0     0
      raidz1-0                                ONLINE       0     0     0
        f50fb09e-16f7-11eb-b0a9-782bcb47b119  ONLINE       0     0     0
        f56b1d22-16f7-11eb-b0a9-782bcb47b119  ONLINE       0     0     0
        f5857e5b-16f7-11eb-b0a9-782bcb47b119  ONLINE       0     0     0

[low harness]

Actually, that's what I have on my array too... 8.8%. Never mind

[clear ferry]

  *-disk:10
       description: ATA Disk
       product: WDC WD60EDAZ-11U
       vendor: Western Digital
       physical id: 0.9.0
       bus info: scsi@0:0.9.0
       logical name: /dev/sdi
       version: 0A80
       serial: WD-WX72D50CPZPV
       size: 5589GiB (6001GB)
       capacity: 5589GiB (6001GB)
       capabilities: 15000rpm gpt-1.00 partitioned partitioned:gpt
       configuration: ansiversion=6 guid=f4f0ff32-16f7-11eb-b0a9-782bcb47b119 logicalsectorsize=512 sectorsize=4096

Interesting distinction between the 6TB drives and the 2 or 10 ones

capacity: 5589GiB (6001GB)
capacity: 1863GiB (2TB)
capacity: 9314GiB (10TB)
capacity: 1788GiB (1920GB)

If the threshold was below 10TB one would think the 2TB would also report in GBs

[dull chasm]

@tidal bronze any hdmi to Ethernet recommendations

Need to display cams from blue iris to another room possibly 2 rooms porch and living room

1080 would be okay 4K just a bonus

Cat 6 btw

[tidal bronze]

If you are not going for 4K most baluns / splitters on Amazon should do it.

[dull chasm]

Does 4K complicate things

[tidal bronze]

Yes the price.

[dull chasm]

https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-HDMI-Extender-Ethernet/dp/B00OZV04BK/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?keywords=hdmi+over+ethernet&qid=1646399749&sr=8-5

?

@tidal bronze should I invest in something 4K and will allow network

[tidal bronze]

If you plan to expand yes, as long as you have a dedicated switch and runs for displays

[dull chasm]

Yes on the one I listed or invest in better?

[clear ferry]

        month        rx      |     tx      |    total    |   avg. rate
     ------------------------+-------------+-------------+---------------
       Oct '21      1.14 TiB |  152.91 GiB |    1.29 TiB |    4.24 Mbit/s
       Nov '21      1.79 TiB |  693.98 GiB |    2.47 TiB |    8.38 Mbit/s
       Dec '21      1.67 TiB |    1.76 TiB |    3.43 TiB |   11.25 Mbit/s
       Jan '22      2.95 TiB |    2.58 TiB |    5.53 TiB |   18.15 Mbit/s
       Feb '22      6.44 TiB |    7.69 TiB |   14.13 TiB |   51.36 Mbit/s
       Mar '22    971.69 GiB |  883.56 GiB |    1.81 TiB |   51.13 Mbit/s
     ------------------------+-------------+-------------+---------------
     estimated      8.15 TiB |    7.41 TiB |   15.57 TiB |

Need to move more data

[tidal bronze]

That's good.

[shadow prawn]

Mstone has a red benz, thanks to onlyfans

[last cedar]

The hand going up as it is falling makes this 20x better 🤣

[ocean arrow]

Do you know if the cat6 run length is by chance? under 50m you think?

[dusky plank]

dont know what you mean but cat6 spec says 100m, might easily do more

[dusky plank]

uwotm8?

[finite atlas]

https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2022/03/04/3d6912c758c348da.mp4

[dull chasm]

@tidal bronze thanks will order

[last cedar]

YEAH

🦝 colon possum colon 🐱

[dusky plank]

i always thought the the vscode server icon is a weird chinese symbol

i just realized its a cloud, a note and a bracket all in one

[junior forge]

haha

its the "code" icon

not the "vscode" icon

just to prevent Microsoft objects 😄

[glacial knot]

their naming of the various parts there is annoying

[static schooner]

It's a pretty great free ecosystem, so I'll cut them some slack

[glacial knot]

agreed

I need to annoy them about some extension API stuff though

[dusky plank]

its fugly anyway 😂

[glacial knot]

hm?

[cunning onyx]

Looks like a bunch of SVG icons threw up on each other.

[static schooner]

Semi-related, I think it's clever how the default weather card assembles its icons by overlaying embedded SVG icons

[glacial knot]

oh, the icon. not the editor. Agreed

[clear ferry]

https://c.tenor.com/eiqIv7qCLuMAAAAM/you-certainly-fixed-that-problem-for-yourself-david.gif

[thorny heron]

https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/1005003766378575.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.740345b799q4ii&algo_pvid=6743f4f8-37d4-4b82-ab4a-200ae8d6bc4e&algo_exp_id=6743f4f8-37d4-4b82-ab4a-200ae8d6bc4e-4&pdp_ext_f={"sku_id"%3A"12000027093615128"}&pdp_pi=-1%3B114.9%3B-1%3B-1%40salePrice%3BCAD%3Bsearch-mainSearch

Just ordered one of these, i'm hyped.

Anyone gave them a try yet?

[glacial knot]

oh, it can do location in room? Maybe I should get one

[thorny heron]

They are RARELY in stock

Hence why i jumped on it

15 left now

[glacial knot]

I speak neither spanish nor chinese well enough to follow that posting tbh.

[brisk glen]

I have like 10 ecobee occupancy sensors

Google translate

[thorny heron]

https://www.gizmochina.com/2021/12/31/aqara-human-presence-sensor-fp1-equipped-with-millimeter-wave-radar-unveiled/

[thorny heron]

Are those MMwave as well? 😮

[brisk glen]

Nope

No cable tho and the door ones last 3 years while the wall/shelf ones last 5

[thorny heron]

70$ seems expensive for a PIR. Aqara has some for 20$

[glacial knot]

even the phillips ones are like half that

[proven spruce]

its not a PIR

it even says in the title its a microwave radar sensor

[thorny heron]

So.. it is MMwave?

[dusky plank]

guess they are talking about michaelw one's

[thorny heron]

I am yeah

[tidal bronze]

FP1 looks interesting, will wait for ful zone support

[reef arrow]

Proxmox scripts to help with your Proxmox/Home Automation Journey.
Currently 29 scripts and growing!
https://tteck.github.io/Proxmox/

[restive vapor]

Why 3d models cost so much money

[clever mortar]

Looks like the model isn't the problem there

[restive vapor]

Just noticed it's shipping
How the heck it can be so high

[clever mortar]

International...

[restive vapor]

Is there anything to turn down the cost

I still want that model

[clever mortar]

Let me check my crystal ball...

Nope, says it hasn't any idea what you're buying or from what supplier, so you're basically fucked

[glacial knot]

CDJapan charged me ~40€ for shipping.

Only ever order there when I want enough stuff to spend 100€ on product. So I'm not scalped too badly by shipping

[calm wind]

I still see the VSCode icon in the side bar, in the supervisor I see the new icon though

[restive vapor]

Shapeway

[junior forge]

That is a mdi icon… not distributed by the add-on 😉

[calm wind]

Aah

[clever mortar]

Then ... check their site, see what they offer. Same as you'd do for any other site on the planet

Maybe shipping to your country from where they're printing it just sucks

[restive vapor]

Let me convert wrl to stl first

So I can use it with other providers

[calm wind]

Emby with hardware transcoding support would be nice 😇

[restive vapor]

Guess I am stuck to shapeway

[restive vapor]

How will a 7cm build cost if I use pla

[glacial knot]

depends on your fill%, overhands and some other stuff

[restive vapor]

Ok

Is this cool?
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/darrenmc-7765facb9a0344378ad38e19f30e5e2f

[glacial knot]

that's one wiide boy screen

[forest edge]

i dunno how people can game on that crap

[wintry hazel]

Hey, here’s a curious one: does anyone here do much smoking or other slow cooking and what smart technologies do you use or consider to help keep an eye on your work?

I’m thinking both a smart thermometer and an electric bellows would help me not go out and blow into the coals box to bump that temp up as often

[cedar chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/larry-david-curb-your-enthusiasm-disgusting-disgusted-what-gif-24867997

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/frightened-aroused-wonder-woman-gif-13486820

https://i.redd.it/z60tfyr7fhl81.jpg

[last cedar]

Okay, 30 dollars

Didn't say you couldn't write more than 15

[clear ferry]

Still quite low

[wintry hazel]

I wouldn’t mind 30, I’m on 25.25 and that only does loan repayments, groceries, and a little saving when you live alone

[clear ferry]

hides in 52 before extras

[stuck python]

Morning all,

I need a second pair of eyes on this problem. Im running a plex (Ubuntu headless 21.04) server here at home. I went from non raid to raid0 and backed up all my media before that. After backup all media is restored, but new media doesnt get added to the plex library. I did 'chmod -R 755 directoryname' to give new rights. But it doesnt seem to work. Does anyone know a workaround for this?

[clear ferry]

Well, is said folder added as a media library in Plex?

Is Plex running as a container or bare metal?

[dawn prawn]

whyd the HA amber change to yellow?

[clear ferry]

Cøpiright captialism i guess

[dawn prawn]

crazy

[dusky plank]

https://amberpro.net/de/shop/product/am1212-2-amber-plus-cloud-attached-personal-storage-2tb-2-2#attr=

https://www.myamberlife.com/

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/see-you-in-court-donald-trump-alec-baldwin-saturday-night-live-we-will-meet-in-court-gif-19311778

[dawn prawn]

please don't shoot me

[dusky plank]

they do some aggressive adertisement marketing

you can find that product on 10 different domains

[dawn prawn]

haha

[clear ferry]

So, basically it is shit and they can't get rid of it

[young sigil]

It's not even amber. It's black. False advertising.

[clear ferry]

I find that colour blindness offensive

[young sigil]

Then my work here is done.

[stuck python]

Hi, the folder is set in Plex, yes, and all previously backed up media is back in it again. Plex is running 'bare metal'. I was thinking of reinstalling plex maybe, not sure what that would solve

[clear ferry]

If you have presented the right folders to Plex, it should just index then

If not, read the log

[stuck python]

I have checked everything double. Download instances work under the right name:group, everything gets moved around and picked up. It just is plex. Let me go ahead and see if the logs detail anything

[clear ferry]

Also, running Plex and all *arr in containers is life

Much easier to maintain

https://github.com/atxbyea/docker-compose/blob/master/media-compose.yaml

[stuck python]

hmmm

I suppose its too late for that, i will have to start moving things around. And you know, i am one hell of a linux-noob.

Already proud to have come this far tbh... but i will certainly follow that advice when i get a fresh install

But would it make sense to reinstall plex server?

[clear ferry]

Not really

[stuck python]

😦

Its the rules, i see now that new series (being downloaded an placed) dont have any rights to them!

[clear ferry]

Make a folder propegate subfolder and file permissions

And make whatever download clients you are using use the same permissions

[stuck python]

yes

[last cedar]

Showoff :P

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/jinsoul-loona-sssh-wink-gif-11882941

[stuck python]

@clear ferry i've got it...i gave correct permissions to clients

[clear ferry]

Plex clients?

[umbral cliff]

chmod -R 777 /

Obviously

Who needs permissions

[clear ferry]

[shadow prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/peepoleave-gif-24366950

[earnest schooner]

what to do if my pi refuses my password as i try to connect via ssh?

[finite atlas]

bin it

or google the issue

[shadow prawn]

Has it ever worked?

[earnest schooner]

thing i i have not been able tof ind any issue

[earnest schooner]

yes, two hours ago before dinner xD

[shadow prawn]

Or have you set it up freshly

Okay have you tried to restart it?

[earnest schooner]

to restart a pi?

thats a thing?

[shadow prawn]

Yes

[earnest schooner]

how?

[shadow prawn]

Its lunix on it

Unplug it

[earnest schooner]

raspberry pi os lite

ohhh

[shadow prawn]

Not nice for sd card but sometimes it has to be done

[earnest schooner]

turn off and on again, okay xD

imma try that yes

why did it stop working in the first place tho

[shadow prawn]

Dunno can you plug a display to it

Then you can access the pi directly

[clear ferry]

Eww pi

[shadow prawn]

Without any access its difficult to look into the issue

[clear ferry]

It probably died

[earnest schooner]

i deco reco the pi

deconnect reconnect

[shadow prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-shia-la-beouf-flame-gif-4445204

[earnest schooner]

seems to be working

[shadow prawn]

Yeah then look into the logs what happened

[earnest schooner]

its not accepting the password

[cedar chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/maurice-moss-unexpected-reboot-it-crowd-reboot-richard-ayoade-gif-11294807

[clear ferry]

Best idea ever on SD cards

[earnest schooner]

not the one is set up, or the base one

[shadow prawn]

Yeah then you have to plug a monitor to it or reinstall the os

[earnest schooner]

openmediavautl is isntalled on it, and it worsk jsut fine, so the os or openmedievault arent stuck or not working

publickey.password (?)

what is that supposed to mean pi xD

[shadow prawn]

Dunno we‘re no raspberry os support here you should ask there

[earnest schooner]

there is a place for that?

[shadow prawn]

Have you changed the ssh password from default?

[clear ferry]

Always do that

And always move to public key auth

[earnest schooner]

normally yes, i changed it to 0000

[shadow prawn]

Kek

Best password ever

[earnest schooner]

its not made to secure the pi, its to have something simpler then the base one

[clear ferry]

Oh

So that is why we have passwords

I never knew

[shadow prawn]

Plug a keyboard and a monitor to it and look if someone changed the password

[earnest schooner]

how do i check that ?

[shadow prawn]

Look into the logs

You also can reinstall the os and do yourself a favor, use an ssd instead of an sd card

[earnest schooner]

to reinstall the os, do i just relash the same drive with pi os ?

[shadow prawn]

Installing the os freshly on the sd card. You have to set up everything new then. But as i said go for a ssd on the raspberry pi, an sd card does not live very long with home assistant on it.

[earnest schooner]

i see

[clear ferry]

SD cards don't live very long with anything on them

Gives me ulcers

[shadow prawn]

They‘re living quite well with an read only OS

[finite atlas]

alpine?

[shadow prawn]

I‘m sitting again barefoot at the piano

Oberfail and me, it was too little

[dusky plank]

my grossly underpowered pi works fine now for 3 years, the sd card gave up long ago i believe

no way you can write on that thing but it still boots and does its job fine

I used https://gitlab.com/larsfp/rpi-readonly back then,
now the raspi-config gives you options for RO overlay but I think the boot process is still r/w with this

[night zodiac]

I'm about to redo my entire HA setup. Wish my luck.

I don't think USB boot was out the last time I set up. I see an sd card in here used for boot

[clear ferry]

Eww

[night zodiac]

🙂 good day

[shadow prawn]

😂💁‍♂️

Why do you want to redo it

[night zodiac]

I went to go update it and it keeps doing a sweet loop with the database upgrade ( been a while )

I don't feel like dicking with it. It has been a long while, just going to redo it

I'm going to make it simpler without extra stuff. I just want necessities.

it = HA

[shadow prawn]

What hardware are you using

[night zodiac]

rpi 4b and an ssd

it has worked well forever, just the update wasn't happy. oh well

I'd rather start fresh than figure out the problem

get rid of this sd card while I'm at it

[shadow prawn]

And youre still satisfied with the performance

[night zodiac]

yeah, I was running influxdb and all that fine from it

no need for anything more for me

I don't do cctv stuffs or anything

[shadow prawn]

Then lets go

[green inlet]

Try updating your client. A recent ssh upgrade raised the standard.

[earnest schooner]

its been tow hours that i have been fighting with it, im reinstalling the whole thing

[green inlet]

Shame, what client are you using to connect?

Cause, once everything updates, you will prob be in the same boat

[clear ferry]

https://open.spotify.com/track/10a8GFqhp6uiNogYRBS0YH?si=6dZF7yPxR7-G2pOfaTRrsg&utm_source=copy-link

[forest edge]

Pi Master Race. Bow you peasant

[tidal bronze]

Carne Asada taco time.

[forest edge]

you shouldn't grill pickles like that

[tidal bronze]

Just warming them up.

[dawn prawn]

Pickles?

Looks like pineapple and some sort of chilli to me 😂

[dusky plank]

ffs now im drunk and hungry

[wintry hazel]

Me yesterday

[night zodiac]

I may have backed up every single thing except my automations folder and the only thing I really want is my automations folder. neat

[static schooner]

You should automate that

[night zodiac]

lol, I had an old gitignore in my folder that was a bit dumb

oh well

At some point I moved to an automations folder and my gitignore didn't allow it

[forest edge]

resetting up automations is half the fun tho

[night zodiac]

big true

[forest edge]

I cringe when I see people put tasmota or esp on shelly devices.. all that extra work for no added benefit lol

[scenic radish]

no added benefit 🤔

[green inlet]

Pineapple belongs on pizza, not tacos. 😉

[static schooner]

I thought it was mango, which I can get behind, but I guess they're a little big

[green inlet]

But I like what you are doing with the jalapeños

[green inlet]

I really liked you until now 🤣

Fruit does not belong on a taco

[forest edge]

yea.. what benefit do you think you get? the benefit of doing more work?

[clear ferry]

Of local control and any added features

Yeah, no benefits

[last cedar]

Atx had a nightmare last night. They install hass os on a pi2 with an sd card.

https://tenor.com/view/jack-sparrow-johnny-depp-pirate-spooky-magic-gif-11873823

[clear ferry]

You mean a zero

And a full unifi stack

🤢

[last cedar]

Hahaha poor you

I know this will disgust you... But....

Truenas "apps" look pretty sweet

But a very hands off solution

Saw a video last night and it looks great, but not actually played with it

[clear ferry]

Concept looks good

Implementation is so so

It will get better

[last cedar]

Yeah

When you say implementation is bad, do you mean kubernetes in general, on the scale way of using it?

I know you are allergic to extra layers of stuff when you don't need it

[clear ferry]

The scale way

They swapped from k3s to k8s pretty late in the release

So they have some changes to get fixed

And they need to get multihost support running at some point

[last cedar]

25.04 🤣

"there is always next year"

[umbral cliff]

Don’t shelly’s get you local control anyway?

[clear ferry]

Shellys have the option yes

But primarily they are cloud still afaik

And if you block them from the internet I'm not sure if you can update them

[last cedar]

But, all the cool kids use cloud implementations

[clear ferry]

Disgusting

[last cedar]

🤣

[umbral cliff]

Looks like cloud but the HA integration is local, so not terrible. Just connect to internet for update

But yeah fully local is a benefit of tasmota then

[last cedar]

Would be cool if the integration made a fake internet for them to update from

[clear ferry]

Cloud is disgusting, best regards a cloud certified consultant

[last cedar]

Does that make them a meteorologist?

[clear ferry]

https://youtu.be/pllRW9wETzw

Ah, my hacktoberfest 2021 shirt has shipped

[umbral cliff]

No meteorologists deal with the useful types of cloud

[umbral cliff]

It’s good for the average person who doesn’t want hubs unless matter comes by and actually completes its goal of being fully open to everything to connect and not being locked down as it probably will

[clear ferry]

And have to buy their whole infrastructure new every 14 months because the cheap cloud company they bought either went bankrupt or closed down the service for said cloud product

Or just suddenly started charging for it

[umbral cliff]

At least with Tuya surely they won’t close down. The data is too important

[forest edge]

that is awful. like really. wtf?

[forest edge]

stock firmware has all of that lol

[clear ferry]

It's not my fault you are musically inept

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/okily-dokily-okie-dokie-ok-kay-nerd-gif-11941985

[forest edge]

I think a russian bomb went off near your house and your hearing is all screwed up

[clear ferry]

Maybe, maybe not, they might retire individual products though

[forest edge]

another thing you should probably go see a doctor about

[clear ferry]

When should we spin up your first free cloud vm ?

[umbral cliff]

Surely Tuya wouldn’t be retiring bulbs though which is what the majority use

[clear ferry]

It happens all the time for different vendors

Osram has retired at least two generations of smart home stuff

[forest edge]

Pretty likely it just goes to a diffrent company relabeled

[clear ferry]

I had a weather station from a cloud company, their only server died and all users got money back from the reseller

Unifi even retired some access points and stated if you tried updating them they would brick

[umbral cliff]

Yeah but Tuya specifically. Thought all it needs is Tuya cloud and that’s it

[clear ferry]

[umbral cliff]

But yeah local is definitely far better

Just thinking for people who don’t/ can’t set up HA

[clear ferry]

I don't buy Tuya unless I can flash it

[umbral cliff]

I have to change a chip on one of the Tuya devices I have

[clear ferry]

Teddi loves doing that Frankenstein stuff

[umbral cliff]

Since they’re not esp32/etc

Its on the blackadder website how to do

Just de solder and re solder

And cut one trace

[clear ferry]

I would never bother

[umbral cliff]

Not that bad

[clear ferry]

I can still find old Tuya stock

[umbral cliff]

Its rapidly going here

I also wanted an LED strip, nice quality but wrong chip lol

[forest edge]

so buy the strip and then pick up some cheap controllers

[clear ferry]

Lots of nice ZigBee controllers

[forest edge]

I did that, got some stupid cheap tuya strips and then bought some magichome controllers. combined it was still cheap

[clear ferry]

Ew magichome

[forest edge]

i dunno why ew.. they are awesome

even more so now they make it retarded easy to go local only right out of the box, not internet needed or account or anything

only downside is the change in chips so I guess an mqtt nerd couldn't get his rocks off

[umbral cliff]

Will also try that. Just couldn’t find the recommended zigbee controllers

[trim abyss]

Setting up tuya local is a pain

[forest edge]

not even an option with modren stuff

[trim abyss]

Keeps changing how it works.

You can just about do it, if you use an old android app and bluestacks

[forest edge]

yea no thx

[umbral cliff]

It is

[forest edge]

if i wanted to beat my head against a wall i'd just listen to the crap atx keeps posting

[umbral cliff]

Just have to get the code from setting it up online first

Then kill it’s internet access

And dns access

[forest edge]

I tried with the tuya controllers that came with my strips.. could not get it to work

course this has been a couple years ago

[trim abyss]

I need to find a decent tutorial on how to flash my stuff.

[umbral cliff]

I have it running with that Tuya strip that I want to change the chip on. Works perfectly fine and that’s the modern Tuya stuff

[trim abyss]

Unless it's a soldering job, CBA with that shit.

[forest edge]

so did they readd a local option? confused

[umbral cliff]

Basically get the serial to usb adaptor. Connect the ends to the right parts on the board. Run the website/ terminal based tool

[umbral cliff]

It’s a HACS integration for local Tuya

[trim abyss]

Oof.

[forest edge]

oh

[umbral cliff]

Which depending on your individual device may need soldering

Some have holes you can put pins through. Others are solder

[trim abyss]

The most wonderful thing happened recently. We haven't had internet connection since Thursday

So the long stupid progress of making everything local has finally paid off.

[umbral cliff]

@forest edge https://github.com/rospogrigio/localtuya

[forest edge]

find out there really is such a thing as the sun and experince it for the first time?

[umbral cliff]

Ouch that’s a long time. What happened

[trim abyss]

Mistake by the company.

[umbral cliff]

What did they do that caused it though

[trim abyss]

Honestly no idea. Don't think I'll ever know.

[umbral cliff]

Did they just not connect you? Or is their infrastructure down

[forest edge]

so you gotta block the devices from internet?

[umbral cliff]

I say change ISP though

[trim abyss]

Infrastructure down.

[umbral cliff]

Yes. Because it’s not a flash. So they can still operate

[trim abyss]

I get 900 Mbs down, I can't go back.

[umbral cliff]

Surely there’s another provider who can provide a similar level of service

[forest edge]

I use to do that with my magichome bulbs but tested the newer firmware with them and found they do not call home when set to local mode so stopped

[restive vapor]

Sad I only have 100

[forest edge]

100 is plenty for many things

just don't go dl'ing the entire season of buffy the vampire slayer

[trim abyss]

@umbral cliff nope they ran a custom line to the house. I just have to bare it.

It's okay, I'm not moaning. I should have reported the problem earlier.

[restive vapor]

They ran a fiber cable into my house lol
(Not the big one, the small and flat one)

[trim abyss]

Yeah this is cityfibre.

[restive vapor]

I live in a apartment
They got that all the way to my floor
Which is 16

[umbral cliff]

Well you could manage it, it would just take a while

[clear ferry]

What is this? Internet downtime?

[umbral cliff]

Even shitty australia internet doesn’t have internet downtime for 4+ days

Not unless it’s something super major and even then it’ll be resolved relatively quickly

[clear ferry]

I don't think I've had more than 6h in the last 24 years

[umbral cliff]

Does Norway have idiot tradies with backhoes?

Because that’s most of the outages here lol

[last cedar]

You might be right

[dusky plank]

your last outage was almost a whole day atx

[clear ferry]

I did my own digging for the ftth in 2004

[restive vapor]

U notice that flat small cable?
That's the fiber cable

[clear ferry]

Wait what

[umbral cliff]

So you should be able to get over 100 then

If you pay for it

[dusky plank]

you whined about using your mobile to talk to us

[clear ferry]

Yes, but was it that long?

[restive vapor]

I got the speed cap 100mb plan
Unlimited data lol

[umbral cliff]

Maybe that’s why it’s only 6 hours. Only what he can remember

[last cedar]

Flat cables are capped at 100.the waves can't go high/ low enough. You need a wavy cable to get more than 100

[umbral cliff]

Data caps are a selling point? Haven’t had those in australia for years now.

But yeah if you only want to pay for 100 that’s fair

[clear ferry]

Datacaps were cool for six months in 1998

[restive vapor]

Oh
So maybe if I get my dad to upgrade to 1gb we will need to rewire it?

[umbral cliff]

Average household doesn’t need more than 100, as long as Infrastructure can support faster for the future

[umbral cliff]

No it was a joke lol

[last cedar]

And the reason you can't bend fiber cables is simple, if you bend too much, the dataa can't make the turn, and it crashes out of the cable

[clear ferry]

That is actually true

[last cedar]

It goes too fast

[trim abyss]

Here's my 900

[restive vapor]

Hmm I coilled the cable in circles
Is that bad

[clear ferry]

Fiber cables have a maximum coil angle

[dusky plank]

thats… copper, innit?

[restive vapor]

Internet still works

So I guess no problem?

[dusky plank]

this fiber

[last cedar]

It was actually a joke, but coiling too tight is bad, you can break the inside of the fiber cable

[umbral cliff]

Eww double extender

[clear ferry]

Visual example

[trim abyss]

Angry fibre

[dusky plank]

double extender?

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/hissing-viralhog-feisty-angry-mad-gif-23581498

Angry fiber

[dusky plank]

snek

[trim abyss]

Right I can see what your problem is

[umbral cliff]

On the right looks like one of those things that takes 1 plug and converts to 2

[dusky plank]

ah yeah

[umbral cliff]

Yeah there’s no light coming out of the cable 🤣

[restive vapor]

Hmm mine is a small flat cable and the mini connector

[dusky plank]

i need to get rid of that crap sometime

[last cedar]

That looks like two thin cables, next to each other?

[clear ferry]

I should try to get rid of the gpon and just connect it directly to my Switch

[umbral cliff]

I dislike them because they don’t have surge protecting built in, whilst power boards do

[last cedar]

We called it shotgun cable when we ran coax like that

[restive vapor]

I use a gpon lol

[dusky plank]

eh, just the isp modem and a hue iris, couldnt care less 😄

[restive vapor]

Mine just a gpon and a router

Nothing more

[dusky plank]

what is gpon

[umbral cliff]

G-piece of network

[clear ferry]

I've started doing some documentation @last cedar

https://github.com/atxbyea/Network-setup

[umbral cliff]

Compared to g-string

🤣

[umbral cliff]

Yeah just my personal dislike lol

[restive vapor]

Idk it says gpon terminal on my Huawei device

[dusky plank]

oh its just the connector and passive spec

[restive vapor]

Yeah

[restive vapor]

Wait it's a technology
https://us.hitrontech.com/learn/what-is-gpon-and-how-does-it-work/

[umbral cliff]

Oi where’s my recognition. I give you the Aussie humour

😛

Also what’s Mirai

[clear ferry]

みらい

[restive vapor]

Btw I wish I could reset my router to get access back to my admin panel of my router

[dusky plank]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-blue-bluesclues-booty-shake-gif-7607163

i made it to the credits

[clear ferry]

Like and subscribe, my patreons get nsfw material

[restive vapor]

I accidentally messed up remote settings and locked myself out

[umbral cliff]

Do you need admin parts though. As a 13YO you probably shouldn’t be fiddling too bad

[clear ferry]

New style firewall material that is

[umbral cliff]

Yeah if you lock yourself out maybe shouldn’t be doing that

[restive vapor]

I port forwarded before

[restive vapor]

I accidentally switched on one more tonggle and updated it accidentally due to pressing on wrong bittons

[forest edge]

to be 13 in this day and age..

|| would suck ||

[umbral cliff]

So @clear ferry do you have opnsense doing dns then?

[clear ferry]

Yes

[umbral cliff]

I doubt it’s locked out completely. You tried using Ethernet directly then?

[restive vapor]

Yes

[forest edge]

not all that fond of unbound

[restive vapor]

Just a not authorized at the login screen

[forest edge]

it works, but I think it's a little sluggish

[umbral cliff]

Is there another program that is good that can run dns since I’m not too keen on running opnsense on what hardware I currently have

[dusky plank]

i run adguard on my opnsense, like michelle

[clear ferry]

Lots of noobs run pihole I've heard

[restive vapor]

Wish my parents could give me the pppoe creds so I can reset my router and fix it

[clear ferry]

I actually had to unblock a site in my DnsBL list the other day

Wife couldn't deliver lottery tickets

"gambling"

[forest edge]

what does that mean? deliever lottery tickets?

[clear ferry]

The national lottery service was blocked

[umbral cliff]

I wanted something slightly better quality but without running a firewall. Want more dedicated hardware in case my server breaks down, old hardware & only one device means I’m not well set up for failure yet

[clear ferry]

Opnsense can run on a tincan

If you want

[forest edge]

not messed with modren lotto so no idea how that works online. if you say lotto ticket i picture the scratch cards and the pick tickets they print at the gas stations lol

[restive vapor]

I wish I could block ads and still be using 1.1.1.1 with warp

[umbral cliff]

Yeah but more worried about failure than hardware usage

[umbral cliff]

Just setup pihole and do thag

[dusky plank]

i need to upgrade my tincan, it doesnt manage all that bandwidth + ids/ips

[umbral cliff]

It’ll send dns via pihole then to 1.1.1.1

[clear ferry]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norsk_Tipping?wprov=sfla1 @forest edge

[clear ferry]

I do, and use DoT

[umbral cliff]

Pick tickets can be issued online. They just generate the number/ you chose the numbers and then check online

It’s all digitalised now

[dusky plank]

psssh Dnssec is a thing, i like quad9

[restive vapor]

But that's only forwarding requests to cf dns

But no Dot and WARP

[umbral cliff]

Then install a local ad blocker

Like browser extension

[clear ferry]

I block all DNS requests from clients internally, send them to unbound and block advertising and tracking cookies, then forward requests to cloudflare via DoT and use dnssec

[forest edge]

lol 1 in 5 mil.. that low pop really turns in your favor lol

[restive vapor]

But how
Pihole only have a option to forward request to another dns

[umbral cliff]

In your opinion is pihole okay then for a basic setup?

[clear ferry]

Yes, even i have won $15k once, and i only bother playing a few times a year

[restive vapor]

Erm tv

[clear ferry]

🤢

[dusky plank]

all dns in house except internet resolvers, ping goes brrrrrrrrrr

[umbral cliff]

Do you need warp/ etc for your tv

[clear ferry]

Proper router

[forest edge]

was about to ask what the pot's were but I would imagine those being relatively low

[restive vapor]

No but Dot
Dns over tls

[umbral cliff]

I’ll take that as yes. It’s your answer for that stuff

[umbral cliff]

Pihole does that iirc

[clear ferry]

The weekly stuff is usually $2m-40m

[umbral cliff]

Can’t remember 100%

[dusky plank]

adguard does for sure

[umbral cliff]

Reminds me i should’ve bought a ticket for the 120 million draw the other day

[forest edge]

40mil? that's gotta be rarely?

[clear ferry]

No

Weekly

[forest edge]

our state lotto sits around 300mil

[clear ferry]

That is part of the Scandinavian and European ones though

The national only one is $2-3m every week

[forest edge]

but I only really hear of people winning the lower pots like 10mil etc

[clear ferry]

For top price

Then there are a few other big ones

[forest edge]

I should have been doing like monthly lotto

I keep saying I should but i always forget lol

[dusky plank]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-throw-window-money-cash-gif-16491349

[forest edge]

my luck if I ever won I would have to split it with like 30 other people and then after taxes I would end up shelling out more for gas to the big check picture than the big check is actually worth

[umbral cliff]

Picture?

What

[forest edge]

you never seen the lotto winners holding those huge checks?

[umbral cliff]

Nope. Illegal here

[restive vapor]

How can I get a device to advertise himself as a dns server and overide routers default

[umbral cliff]

Because you can’t name winners

[forest edge]

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5a592834692ebee780d0eea9/1559855270886-Z173KTKNXP60G4FD9VS8/iu-17-2.jpeg

[clear ferry]

We have no tax on lottery winnings

[umbral cliff]

You have to configure it either device by device or on the router to issue it as the dns

[clear ferry]

Start by understanding basic networking

[restive vapor]

I can't Access the router interface lol

[restive vapor]

I don't have an environment to test to my own desire
Hope I have one lol

I just Wana learn with making router changes

[umbral cliff]

Making changes on prod is not gonna end well

Your family will not like you

[umbral cliff]

Then individual configuration is how it goes

[restive vapor]

True
Lucky is I only locked the admin panel

[clear ferry]

Legacy network equipment for learning can be had for spare change

[last cedar]

Nice!

I can help.

Step 1 rent a steamroller

Step 2 take all your raspberry pi and machines with less than 1TB ram outide

Step 3 run steamroller over them all

[restive vapor]

But u can't just buy a tons of equipment to emulate pon

[last cedar]

Atx can

If in doubt, get more servers

[umbral cliff]

After this kidnapping they made it so winners stay anonymous here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Graeme_Thorne

[clear ferry]

Good enough to learn basic L2 and more

https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-ProCurve-2626-J4900B-24-Port-Switch-/224869892956?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=707-127634-2357-0

[umbral cliff]

I wish that was a thing here. I need a network rack first

[last cedar]

I ended up making my own

[dusky plank]

Funktionsfähig

[last cedar]

Then a close friend got rid of his 24U rack

Guess how many U my rack is

I wasn't pleased

[restive vapor]

I don't need to learn this
I just want to make a exact replica of my home network so I can make a network to mess up and know what I can't do

[umbral cliff]

4

[last cedar]

So I ended up now with 10U for printer and 14U of space, and because I have a supermicro fetish, most of it is occupied, but not yet in service

[last cedar]

Almost

[umbral cliff]

Look on eBay then. But also the principles are the same for both

[clear ferry]

That is the wrong approach

As the ISP infrastructure doesn't matter

[last cedar]

Ignore the pile of nucs

[umbral cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/6m-rain-wallstreet-make-it-rain-gif-8203989

[restive vapor]

I can't just setup a l7 switch just to emulate my home network right

U know it costs much

[dusky plank]

u can, you just dont want to

[last cedar]

One is the first gen 3217U, the other I was given for free!

[umbral cliff]

I feel you’re a rack stealing raccoon rather than a doormat stealing one @last cedar

[last cedar]

NUC6i5

[umbral cliff]

Well that’s tech. It’s not cheap

[clear ferry]

Hello Michelle

[last cedar]

846 was also free, but "faulty". It wasn't

Omg you tidied up atx

[clear ferry]

[last cedar]

Is it a tape robot below the ups?

[restive vapor]

I think I can start off with a rpi running router software and acting as a ap

And make my network bigger one by one

[umbral cliff]

No

Just no

[clear ferry]

Yes

[umbral cliff]

Use a proper AP not a rbp

[last cedar]

You no longer have anxiety inducing hard drives sitting on stuff at least

[restive vapor]

So first I need to buy a l7 switch to connect to my ap

[clear ferry]

No

[last cedar]

And your 520 has all the disk bays. It is so beautiful

[clear ferry]

You don't need anything above L2 for your switches tbh

[umbral cliff]

Hey atx & Michelle where best place to get nice networking gear. Also where should I store a network rack without pissing off housemate or partner lol

Racks seem huge

[clear ferry]

At work?

[last cedar]

Mine is in my computer room. You need a computer room

need

[restive vapor]

Hmm if I buy a l2 switch and make a rpi cluster using it

Is it called learning networks?

Or no

[umbral cliff]

Once housemate moves out I have a spare room for that

[umbral cliff]

It’s called hell

[clear ferry]

[restive vapor]

Ok what should I do first @umbral cliff

[last cedar]

Awesome! Budget for the heat and electric use.

I just traul ebay /local auction sites.i know what my upgrades are, so keep an eye out. Want to move router to lower power, and main server to ddr4 ideally, but that isn't free

[dusky plank]

y‘all with your racks

[clear ferry]

You'd love the EL300 @dusky plank

[restive vapor]

U have a rpi cluster

How's the experience

[last cedar]

I started with 1 shelf of an ikea kallax

And it kind of got out of hand

[dusky plank]

is that the nsfw? ok i should get one

[shadow prawn]

Have you tidied up?

[clear ferry]

I use it as my opnsense box right now

[dusky plank]

nope. they both run a dozen different containers

[dusky plank]

nope. its my electroboom room, always gets messy either way

[clear ferry]

Electro BOOOOOM

[restive vapor]

Oh ok

Do you recomend that I cluster two rasp zero

[dusky plank]

lol no

[restive vapor]

Or run them separately

[umbral cliff]

Yeah I’m pretending electrical isn’t a thing I have to pay lol

[dusky plank]

don‘t take my example. start proper like the others told you to. learn networking 😉

[last cedar]

I am expecting everything to pull less than 120W including the cameras, so it doesn't have to be insane

[umbral cliff]

Ooh ikea kallax a good idea

[last cedar]

Pulling 56W from one UPS atm

[clear ferry]

Learn networking, start small, expand, learn more, expand, learn more

There is no 1-100

[dusky plank]

my setup uses 50w, thats the whole infra for the house including switches and stuff

[last cedar]

Any electric used is free heat into the house though, heats the room and then recycled into the house via ventillation

[dusky plank]

in idle ofc. that i7 can go up 120w

[last cedar]

So it pays to use as little power as possible, and recycle the heat

[restive vapor]

Hmm so how should I start my network
The only place to put things is my room and I can't extend Ethernet from my PC next to my dining room to my room

[clear ferry]

1. Get a switch
2. Integrate it and play with it
3. ???
4. Profit

Then
Get a random laptop or minicomputer with two network cards, install opnsense and play with it

Then bridge the ISP hardware

That would be pretty much what I did in 1998

And I was 14

[restive vapor]

My room is far from my router

[clear ferry]

Improvise

Adapt

Overcome

[umbral cliff]

Get a long Ethernet cable

[clear ferry]

That's what I did

[restive vapor]

Plus I can't modify the house or put long cable on the floor

Could I just have a machine connect to wifi and proxy the Ethernet traffic from my network through it

[dusky plank]

yes you can

[umbral cliff]

Run a cable alongside the floor/ doorways? Tucked out of the way too

[dusky plank]

but you need networking experience 🤓 and wifi is shite

[shadow prawn]

Parents will be really excited by that

[restive vapor]

Seems good

Or bad

[clear ferry]

10/100 isn't great unless it is for labs

[dusky plank]

dude that el300 is a thousand money

[restive vapor]

It is

Just Wana make a small network lab

My room is not big either

[clear ferry]

And that switch is limited in features

If you want to learn anything useful

[dusky plank]

im not going to buy a 1000€ firewall, did you see my cheap ass setup?

that lenovo was 25€

[restive vapor]

Ermmmm

Gonna make some sacrifice

[clear ferry]

This sounds horrible

[restive vapor]

True

Any non horrible recommendations

[umbral cliff]

Do you need the usb to Ethernet? Didn’t you say you have a desktop

[dusky plank]

i guess he wants all the shown parts come together

this is one ugly combination

[restive vapor]

I have one but I can't carry it into my room

[neon flower]

https://youtu.be/FaSG1ux5miA frighteningly I share this experience 😂

[dusky plank]

that guy installed a fake version of homeassistant earlier. dont be like him

[umbral cliff]

A fake version??

[dusky plank]

do you really want to see?

schmutz, will delete later

[neon flower]

Well I thought it was accurate to n a few things, some persons, same 4-5 ppl actually helped me with stuff over the years, and everyone that got something working is overly smug about it 🙂 at least it was a giggle

[restive vapor]

Erm

[umbral cliff]

Jesus wtf

[dusky plank]

exactly

[restive vapor]

What is that

Hass on windows??????

[umbral cliff]

A fake HA

[restive vapor]

Holy moly

[umbral cliff]

Why not just run docker on windows if you wanna stick with windows

[dusky plank]

yeah, why follow official links when you can have the china version

[proven spruce]

youtubers be doing youtuber things

[umbral cliff]

Given the yandex links I say Russian

[restive vapor]

Is raspberry pi 1 a real thing

[umbral cliff]

Why

Unsure if that’s what the first version was even called

[restive vapor]

I found this

[dusky plank]

thats not a 1

[umbral cliff]

Why do you have to use that app? Can’t you use something more legit

[dusky plank]

at least the picture isnt

thats the original

[restive vapor]

My mom only uses this store app

[restive vapor]

The pic looks like a rpi 4b

[umbral cliff]

Can’t order off the website?

[restive vapor]

Can but hard to pursuade her to buy

I really want this thing

@umbral cliff

[shadow prawn]

Raspberry zero 2w is hardly overpriced atm

[restive vapor]

Yeah but hass will not work on it I think?

[shadow prawn]

It will but not more than that, too less ram

And HA on sd is not a great idea too

Maybe second hand buying is an option

Then you could get some used hardware locally, thats cheap but sufficient

[restive vapor]

U could enable USB boot by flashing new firmware

[clear ferry]

Eww pi

Also

Ewww YouTubers

[umbral cliff]

Also ewww Norwegians

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/skam-vilde-cries-in-norwegian-crying-gif-11876994

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-norwegian-emperor-palpatine-star-wars-norwegian-gif-21073847

[finite atlas]

eww a norwegian disliker

[young sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/neil-hippie-youngonce-gif-5024634

Cant we all just like get along, man?

[shadow prawn]

😂

[clear ferry]

[dawn prawn]

Local FB page post from today. @last cedar ‘s cousin

[clear ferry]

Need to clean my desk

[scenic radish]

1. Consistency since I'm already using tasmota on 60+ devices
2. More configuration ability (for example, on-device automations which are very handy)
3. Tasmota device groups which are awesome. Easy way to link a smart switch with smart bulbs, relays, etc. It's so fast you'd think it's hardwired

[fluid zephyr]

Done completely? As in no more CORE no more SCALE? Curious what you switched too. I'm going to continue using docker-compose until they break it on SCALE and probably switch to straight Debian at that point... If there's still ppl using my community plugin I might switch back to CORE but using Docker now, I'm getting spoiled 🤣

[last cedar]

It is so cute! Omg. I need at least 23

[last cedar]

You think they will remove docker compose?

[fluid zephyr]

I hope not but if they switch from using docker a s Kubernetes back-end, it's possible.

[last cedar]

Will be interesting tbh

Proxmox doesn't do "proper" docker

[fluid zephyr]

Using docker-compose is considered a "hack" on SCALE as it is

[last cedar]

And scale is also a bit janky

Kinda interesting. I don't really feel super 100% comfortable with debian, but I have 4 test dockers working and stable

[fluid zephyr]

ATM SCALE is working perfectly for me, with docker-compose and macvlan

I run Linux on my daily so not much of a jump for me to switch

[clear ferry]

Pure Debian, and proper kvm support ;-)

Clean!

[last cedar]

Mmm, I am definately not in that position. I need to replace my old freenas core install. Would be nice to be like all the cool kids and go with zol.

Been playing with debian after @clear ferry recommended I played, but I am yet to buils the nas part.

And tbh, finding files etc is super janky IMO, and when you do make a conf or yaml you end up with the wrong permissions and can't write to the foler and stuff, very frustrating. But it does actually run

"clean" :P

[clear ferry]

I can't do an online proctored exam

That is for sure

[fluid zephyr]

I think, on my daily comp I'm still using the same samba config from 2008, when I first switch to Linux

[clear ferry]

It was great to be back on Debian after 5 years of truenas

My changes persist

I can do whatever I want

[fluid zephyr]

still using zfs?

[clear ferry]

Yes

5sec import after installing

Then just changing some mount points

And removing 6000 snapshots that truenas had forgotten to remove

Didn't understand why my zfs list was so slow

[last cedar]

Forgotten haha

Souvenirs

[fluid zephyr]

Is zfs easy to install on Debian? I use it in another Linux distro (everybody loves to say they run 😉) and it's stupid easy

[clear ferry]

Yes

[last cedar]

It is built in afaik, so it should be easy

[fluid zephyr]

nice... /rethinks life's decisions

[clear ferry]

You need to install it

It isn't mainline kernel @last cedar

Because Linus doesn't trust the see you next Tuesday Larry Ellison

https://tenor.com/view/linus-torvalds-fuck-you-the-middle-finger-middle-finger-linux-gif-13642702

Just found the stack of DC access cards I haven't returned yet

[fluid zephyr]

I keep one hotel key from every work trip I take... Here's the last four years of my life

[clear ferry]

Looool

That's a great idea, i should do that

[dusky plank]

I do that with every holiday trip

shows nonexistent card stack

[fluid zephyr]

I just saw this on github from the main TrueCharts developer

Anyway, docker-compose on the host is being more actively disabled next release anyway (and replaced by another alternative)

Looks like Debian or a switch back to CORE may be happening sooner than I thought...

[clear ferry]

Debian baby

[fluid zephyr]

I'm thinking I agree

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-pitchfork-kill-burn-stake-gif-11227021

[fluid zephyr]

Yes... that about sums it up 🤣

[clear ferry]

So

Y'all need me to help Y'all

https://tenor.com/view/real-life-batman-gif-22192997

[fluid zephyr]

atxbyea -- On your Debian box, do you have root on zfs, or just using it to store data?

[clear ferry]

Just storage

Boot volume is on lvm mirror

[fluid zephyr]

I made my zpools back on FreeNAS 11.0, I wonder if there are any weird flags I'll have to contend with

[clear ferry]

I started on 11.1

So probably not

[night zodiac]

day 1 of HA redo wasn't too bad. I only had one light stay on when I tried to go to sleep.

'fixing that now

[brisk glen]

Docker compose v2 ….

Go look it up, the setup is different

[fluid zephyr]

You're saying that's the proposed replacement on scale?

[brisk glen]

Ah true nass bullshit

[fluid zephyr]

I thought they were just making kubernetes pod to run compose

[brisk glen]

Lol what?

[clear ferry]

They probably won't expose kubectl going forward either

[fluid zephyr]

Yea, I saw a hint that might be happening... Don't take my word, I've not kept up well

[brisk glen]

For scaling across nodes… they better not be using docker

[clear ferry]

They use k8s now

Used to be k3s

[brisk glen]

I wonder why the change

[fluid zephyr]

No TrueNAS is using kubernetes... but I want to use docker-compose

[clear ferry]

Because k8s is more enterprise friendly

[brisk glen]

I know k3s uses a lot less resources and longhorn is nice

[clear ferry]

In regards to sla and scaling

[brisk glen]

Ah well yah

K3s is more for home use

[clear ferry]

For n00bs yes

[brisk glen]

And on underpowered hardware

[fluid zephyr]

TrueNAS CORE seems to be the "home" use version now, while SCALE if for enterprise

[clear ferry]

Core is definitely the enterprise high availability version

Scale is for the modern customers

Neither is home tbh, but enthusiast rather

[fluid zephyr]

I thought TN CORE worked great at home... My biggest reason to switch away from CORE was having to compile the platform.io toolchains for esphome.

[clear ferry]

It works great, but for regular users... They hardly understand how zfs works nor use any middleware functions

[fluid zephyr]

True

[clear ferry]

The primary focus of developers is enterprise customers

With support contracts

[fluid zephyr]

Well this is at least promising...

Hence it's time to disable the binary by default, to make clear it's not an included feature of TrueNAS SCALE, while still allowing advanced users to enable it on purpose.
Source: https://jira.ixsystems.com/browse/NAS-115010

[brisk glen]

Am I the only one who thinks a NAS should only be a NAS?

[static schooner]

I run things on my NAS that actually use the storage in the NAS - Crashplan for backup, Transmission for downloading

Channels DVR for TV recording

MariaDB for a centralized database

[glacial knot]

My homeserver/nas is the always on system with good storage and some cpu/mem headroom

[night zodiac]

my nas does torrents/plex with docker

[finite atlas]

yes

[brisk glen]

Well besides backups

I guess I’m the only one who uses a NAS as a NAS and then uses a server

[finite atlas]

the less devices you have running, the less power you waste

[night zodiac]

my NAS would be using 0 resources 99% of the time if I didn't have some other jazz running on it. I bought my NAS with the intention of using it for media though. My NAS isn't used a whole lot outside of media.

I have jackett, sonarr, radarr, rutorrent, and plex. All of my non media related server stuff are on other machines.

it still just sits at 3% CPU until someone uses it

[last cedar]

I am in this picture and I don't like it

[last cedar]

If there are unused resources then might as well do something with it 😄

[clear ferry]

Storage as storage is very old thinking, even in enterprise most storage systems have different services the last decade

Hyperconverging has been a thing for a decade or more already

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/dry-heave-throw-up-vomit-gross-ew-gif-4726988

[static schooner]

at least the tape matches the wall color, I guess

[clear ferry]

Also, what freaks buy twisted pair cabling in OM2 orange

[green inlet]

I hope that is from the internet 🤞🏻

[night zodiac]

great deal on tape

[finite atlas]

hmm, where have i seen that jank before

[dusky plank]

given the fritzbox, power plugs and dsl it could potentially be from patrex

and it even looks worse than my trash setup

[static schooner]

the bits don't care

[clear ferry]

I have no sentimental care

I will lash out

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-retsuko-aggretsuko-ahh-mad-gif-18081751

[shadow prawn]

Sadly i do not have ethernetcables to my other rooms

[dusky plank]

whats that poe injector even doing? just hangin around

[green inlet]

Hot standby.

I have a couple raspis on hot standby. Like OMV replaced with a NAS….Pi just sitting there waiting for it’s next task. Huge FOMO. 🤣

[clear ferry]

Hot standby, what is this, the strange datacenters of the 00s

I have a customer who has had a hot standby site since 2006

He still hasn't used it

[umbral cliff]

Why the power board taped below but every plug covered😂

[restive vapor]

WTF

mount it properly pls

all thoose equipment have mouting holes

[forest edge]

Ok I get it, since you have so many you want to keep everything under the same umbrella but to be fair, the stock firmware does all of that as well.

[bleak mantle]

hi all, i’m totally new to HA but very interested in exploring HA. i have a simple question that is, if HA crashed, will the automation still works? as in thru the Alexa’s skill linked to Smart Life (assuming the smart life and the HA are basically doing the same automation routine). Thanks.

[glacial knot]

It’s used as usb power brick for the Poe injector that powers the switch

[glacial knot]

Depends on what you set up. If HA itself is involved in the execution, it being down will prevent the execution.
If you have only used it to set up connections that live in this other series, it’ll work

No idea about the possibilities with Alexa. But I haven’t seen HA crash either

[umbral cliff]

You’ve obviously never read #installation-archived or #general-archived and the Pi SD card failures 🤣

[glacial knot]

Nope. Pi SD card setup sounds like an self inflicted issue though

[shadow prawn]

It‘s not my setup 😅

Sadly my fritz!box does not even have mounting holes

[restive vapor]

What is it used for

[shadow prawn]

As Cable modem and router? 😅

[umbral cliff]

I’ve also never heard of a fritzbox tbh

[glacial knot]

AVM brand consumer router/modem/AP combo boxes

[umbral cliff]

Ahh

Unsure if they’re used in aus

[shadow prawn]

☕️

[clear ferry]

Fritzlbox

https://tenor.com/view/moustache-in-the-wind-gif-19964803

[last cedar]

Still looks better than my old homeprod setup

[elfin cairn]

Well it's a German brand based in Berlin and I'm unsure wether they have an international focus

That being said, I prefer a fritzbox over everything in the consumer market. It has so many options, you can even use it as a SIP server with custom users for calling with your landline using a soft phone on your PC. Or plug-in a storage medium and use it as a NAS...

[shadow prawn]

atxbyea rant incoming

[dusky plank]

vlan is missing on mostly of them.
they all have very good radios and good components but the fritz software is something you either hate or love, there is no in between

i flashed mine all to openwrt

[glacial knot]

I didn't find an image for mine. But that might have been an issue with me being stupid

[elfin cairn]

Uhh, saw that quite a few times but never tried; i really like the fritz os so 🤷

[sand ibex]

ok...

[dusky plank]

i still dont know if that is really a poe injector, would be 5v only then which makes even less sense. the switch itself has a barrel plug to it so its got to be some kind of cloud key or management for the tplink

[clear ferry]

Ewww ISP hardware

[sand ibex]

^ This

Fritz!Box is not that bad tho imo

[umbral cliff]

Surely you have something ISP to terminate your fibre before your equipment. Or do you have a custom NTD

[clear ferry]

just the ONT box, and I hate it

[glacial knot]

can't you throw an SFP module in a switch for that?

[clear ferry]

I've considered it

just haven't bothered investigating yet

I need to put the SFTP server outside my lab

currently I'm backing up my lab inside my lab

that isn't great

😄

[umbral cliff]

Why do you hate it. Surely it just directly translates with nothing in between

Like takes fibre puts out rj45

[clear ferry]

It requires a power outlet

and is prone to failure

[glacial knot]

I thought you backup off site?

[clear ferry]

not my lab

[umbral cliff]

Get a better box that doesn’t fail

[clear ferry]