the-water-cooler

[finite atlas]

keep in mind, that till 1 minute thats typical autobahn speed and after that, still completely legal what he does

[proven spruce]

germany is the best

[clear ferry]

Nein

[finite atlas]

Nein

[proven spruce]

gesundheit

[finite atlas]

danke

[clear ferry]

Viel danke

[shadow prawn]

Herzlichen Dank

[dusky plank]

Nein

[shadow prawn]

Atomkraft Nein Nein and Müsli Müsli mjam mjam mjam

[finite atlas]

Kohle Ja Ja !

[shadow prawn]

we will see

[clear ferry]

そのとりですか

[shadow prawn]

maybe

https://tenor.com/view/seagull-screaming-scream-seagull-screaming-meme-gif-18193351

[finite atlas]

Ein Pommesadler!

[crisp sapphire]

Thoughts?

looks hella empty ik. Getting more glassware later

[proven spruce]

nice plant

[crisp sapphire]

UV lighting coming soon

[crisp sapphire]

mhm....

[shadow prawn]

is it uranium glas?

[crisp sapphire]

Yea

im hoping to get a nice tan off the gamma/xrays. Get a real nice dad bod goin you know.

[shadow prawn]

Sounds like a good idea

[inner vault]

https://twitter.com/reductress/status/1486353378544431111?s=21

Reductress (@Reductress)

Woman’s Cry For Help Distilled Into Commenting ‘It Me’ on Several Pictures of Raccoons: https://t.co/o6HuAJ51KX

Twitter · Jan 26, 2022, 3:00 PM

[strange crag]

the speed at 180km/h looks like its only going 100km/h, however from there it gets pretty serious!!

[spare quest]

Kohler OnCue integration is perfectly timed. Just got this baby fired up! https://youtu.be/C4VK7bh5gb4

[shadow prawn]

for emergency power?

[spare quest]

Yes indeed. Which means it will never be needed.

[shadow prawn]

hopefully

[spare quest]

I shouldn't be so excited but it took 7 months to get this thing installed and now I'm just sitting here hoping for a major blackout.

[ebon plinth]

@spare quest let's hope for no emp attack

[spare quest]

At that point, I'm happy to give up.

[storm canyon]

Anyone do whole home audio and if so can you share what you use to do it? Are you able to stream different sources to different zones

[clever mortar]

Sonos

[shadow prawn]

Snapcast, there are no zones, only groups, but you can stream different sources to different clients

[orchid rose]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3DxNT6XIAMIVR9?format=jpg&name=large (sauce: https://appliednetsci.springeropen.com/articles/10.1007/s41109-019-0189-1)

[storm canyon]

Yeah I was looking at Sonos, are you using it with wireless option, so no need to get the house pre wired with speaker wire

[clever mortar]

I've only got their speakers, not their amps

(shortly to include some Symfonisk speakers)

[storm canyon]

And with their speakers are you able to play different sources in different rooms?

[orchid rose]

That's a good question to bring up. It works with Chromecast, which is what I use

[storm canyon]

Are you saying the Sonos works with Chromecast? So then you can use things like spotify or youtube music etc...? New to this audio world

I only asked here in the Home Assistant Discord because I knew this place was full of folks who do alot of DIY Automation etc...

[orchid rose]

No I mean I use Chromecast devices for multiroom audio and they support different "zones" or groups as Google calls them playing different sources at the same time

[storm canyon]

hmmmmm interesting

[orchid rose]

I suspect Sonos is similar, but I haven't used it myself

[storm canyon]

Similar but certainly more expensive I think

[orchid rose]

Not necessarily and you often pay for what yo get. Like tinkerer said there's also some Ikea stuff that are based on Sonos

[storm canyon]

What are the speakers that you use Mr. K?

Are they wired throughout the house?

To get 2 rooms pre wired for audio while doing my home build it is about 250.00 so for 8 rooms that is 1k, then would need amps and speakers and multizone connection of some type or other, not even sure all that would need to be purchased after wires are run

[orchid rose]

I have my home theater (5.1) setup connected to a Chromecast, my google assistant devices (mini, display, and some JBL speaker) and my PC speaker (chromecast audio) currently. Nothing fancy

[storm canyon]

So I am thinking that with sonos speakers in every room they are like 219.00 for the Sonos 1, I think it would still be cheaper than a wired system

aaaaah so you stream from your 5.1 to other speakers throughout the house is what you are saying?

[shadow prawn]

no

[orchid rose]

No, the other way around

I can stream most things to my 5.1 speakers, my google assistant devices (they are all speakers after all) or my PC speakers. Separately or syncced

[storm canyon]

I am an IT guy by profession, but this audio stuff is super new

to me

[finite atlas]

you have to keep in mind, that most people already drive 130-150 on the autobahn, so going 30 km/h more dosnt seem like you are that fast

[shadow prawn]

Or 90 in the middle lane

These people are called Sonntagsfahrer in Germany

[finite atlas]

xD

[fallow karma]

That's very interesting 🤔

[finite atlas]

the best one are those, that try to overtake an elephantenrennen with just 5km/h more

[orchid rose]

I digg the illustrations. Very simple to understand the different concepts

[jaunty summit]

Fyi fellas - icymi -
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/lets-encrypt-is-revoking-lots-of-ssl-certificates-in-two-days/

[clever mortar]

Thank goodness I use DNS-01

We estimate [less than] 1% of active certificates are affected. Subscribers affected by revocations will receive e-mail notifications if their ACME account contains a valid e-mail address.

Nice plug in there for Caddy though, I may have to look at that again

[jaunty summit]

lol yeah ill check my HA cert in 3 days... renew if necessary

[clever mortar]

If you don't have an email, don't worry

[jaunty summit]

yeah im not 100% sure i put a legit email in that field

its been awhile i looked at that part of the code

[finite atlas]

i use cloudflare for my SSL certs

[raven fiber]

Anyone know where to get cheap windows keys these days? I used to get them on ebay for $5 and they are all at least $50+ now

[dusky plank]

is it just me or is discord having trouble?

[static schooner]

The beta broke Discord

[fallow karma]

It's something sketchy with discord today

[median sage]

Luckily, the revocation only applies to certs issued with an obscure challenge method that's only used by large web hosts with virtual servers on the same IP. If you get your certs from certbot, or the Let's Encrypt add-on for Home Assistant, you're good to go since neither of those tools support the obscure challenge method. ;)

[orchid rose]

my discord messages have been more incoherent than usual today since only about half of them get posted

[forest edge]

that that was just how you were normally

[orchid rose]

I mean no one has banned or cancelled me today

[forest edge]

how does one get cancelled.. color me curious

[orchid rose]

I'm mostly joking, but at the same time I avoid most social media just in case as my hot takes and sarcasm can sometimes be taken out of context 🙂

[forest edge]

damn, was hoping you knew of a way to cancel @clear ferry

[orchid rose]

He's been known to cancel himself before

[edgy dragon]

This maybe a stupid question. I see a lot of aim of HA is to keep data local, use as little dependency on cloud services as possible.
However, I then see that many of the HA users and community are using such devices as Amazon Alexa and Google Home, which as far as I know send any data from HA to their respective cloud services.
What am I missing?
Does the HA integration for things like Google and Amazon media player not rely on these cloud services?
Does doing a voice query using these devices and HA not send that query through the Amazon or Google servers?
Hopefully I am mistaken.

[forest edge]

Integrating cloud based devices into HA doesn't mean convert to local only. In the case of google and alexa the integration just ties into the api both platforms supply but all the data is still flowing the same it was even if you never integrated them

as much as we would all like for companies to make their products have at least a local only option, sad truth is many don't and won't and in some cases where there is no local option alternative people have no choice but to use it as it is

[dusky plank]

almond is a alternative, works local, is free to get

[orchid rose]

There are many types of HA users. Some are hell-bent on privacy, which also means not using services like Alexa or Google Assistant, while others, like myself, are more interested in the convenience of combining multiple platforms

[edgy dragon]

I’ll check that out thanks.

[strange crag]

the 130/150 you quote still looks just like 100. Only after 180 does it start to look faster than 100. Ifigure you drive 130 or so, but over here our max speed in 99% of places is only 110 so 130 would feel fast to us.

[finite atlas]

going 200 would feel like riding a rocket then

[strange crag]

it sure does!! Especially on the road I tried it on lol

[forest edge]

lol kmh

[umbral cliff]

For those who use supervised, caddy is even a (non official) HA add on…. Tempted to swap to it ngl

[glacial knot]

There was a major API outage yesterday

[glacial knot]

160 is where diving starts to be straining IMO
Video looks a but off with speed perception to me. But that might be because he’s on an essentially empty road

[brisk glen]

Thank god for matter

I’ll be able to use my HomePods and home assistant together easily

[forest edge]

apple products 🤢

[brisk glen]

Apple products that are most likely to get local voice processing next year

They have the hardware for it and it just came to their phones, I can see it being added. Then I can voice command my lights on and off even when the internet goes out

[forest edge]

sure it will require you to replace your current devices with shittier ones to achieve that feature

[brisk glen]

Has the neural chip to do it fast… nothing to replace… will be apart of the thread network where all of my devices are promised matter updates

Should be ok

Eve and Nanoleaf are probably day 1 matter

[velvet horizon]

@strange crag posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://hastebin.com/zajaluxibu

[strange crag]

Hmm pastebin took more than the code - it took the question too!

[clever mortar]

Yup, because the bot doesn't care

It's an all or nothing deal - if you don't follow the rules, it takes it all

[strange crag]

it wasnt 15 lines!!

woops - it was - mb

[clever mortar]

It was 24 lines

I appreciate that maths is hard though

[strange crag]

it was less than 24 lines - 24 included the question!

but it was still more than the 15 for the code

[clever mortar]

Right, and the rule is 15 lines, and the bot simply counts lines

Because, 24 lines of anything is a shit experience on mobile

[strange crag]

hehehe that must mean you are getting old! I am old and anything on a phone is hard - text too small, cant easily cut/paste or "alt tab" lol

I guess I should re attempt to pose the question?

[clever mortar]

Why? It's right there

You should however check the container logs, like you would do for any other container, and see what's going on

[strange crag]

I would if I knew where to look- you dont mean logs in the container being created do you?

[clever mortar]

Both

docker logs <containerName>

Plus whatever the software spits out

[strange crag]

well I cant get the logs from the container as its only up for 1 second.

but will try what you just mentioned

[dusky plank]

then you up it without daemonizing

[clear ferry]

I constantly send unsolicited disk pics to @clever mortar not cancelled yet

https://tenor.com/view/it-support-it-crowd-office-space-floppy-computers-gif-16041769

[strange crag]

hmmm Thanks Tinkerer - it mentions an unknown protocol "tcp-client" coming from iptables, however that doesnt seem to worry the original implementation that I am trying to replace - it also doesnt terminate the log file and it carries on from there. The last line of the log is
WARNING: Compression for receiving enabled.........

[dusky plank]

logs or it didn't happen

[shadow prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/roseanne-hit-log-bang-ouch-gif-7963312

get logged

[stuck skiff]

Hey guys. Is there a German section for HA too? 🙊🙈

[clever mortar]

Not here, no

[stuck skiff]

Then I do my best with my broken English and Google 🤣

[shadow prawn]

Maybe HA is your way to better english too

[clear ferry]

https://c.tenor.com/P_IbPcNPSAwAAAAM/stephen-colbert-tea.gif

[shadow prawn]

@clever mortar I'm curious: do you make your money with HA?

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-jerry-tom-and-jerry-mouse-lol-gif-17060825

[clever mortar]

I lose sanity with this Discord

[shadow prawn]

Well i'm asking myself how it's possible to invest so much time, if one has to earn his money with other things

[forest edge]

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/29690592/broken-english-broken-english-everywhere.jpg

[proven spruce]

i'd guess pointless hope in humanity

[clear ferry]

I get paid to sit in my office all day, i hate not multitasking, and when I'm off I usually have a baby on top of me with at least one media outlet running, it's easy to find time

[proven spruce]

tinkerer is secretly selling preinstalled supervisor rpi 3's

[clear ferry]

This is an easy way to multitask more

And sometimes learn something new

[proven spruce]

and laugh

[clear ferry]

Also I hate people, and enjoy watching suffering, so really i shouldn't have muted #330990055533576204

[forest edge]

./starts to suspect atx is jobless living with his parents

[clear ferry]

Don't confuse me with yourself again, we've been over this old man

[forest edge]

i'm retired with little to do yet your still on here more than me

the only people i know who are online more than me are generally kids in school

[clear ferry]

I'm perpetually online

I've been for 31 years

[forest edge]

yea apparently these days kids get laptops or take laptops to school and are on them all through class etc

[clear ferry]

They did that in school from 2004

I rolled out the pilots for that

One laptop and one desktop per student

They had tablets from 2010

[forest edge]

yea thats nuts, when i play rust it's littered with kids in school in class playing rust while the teacher is lecturing.. that seems so dumb to me

[clear ferry]

We were online in school from 1997, sitting on IRC whenever we had the chance

This is nothing new

[forest edge]

there wasn't even cellphones or pagers when i went to school

only pc's we had access too was a limited amount of apple's in a single room

played orgeon trail

[proven spruce]

i thought sonoma was older

[clear ferry]

We had access to a shared computer in primary school from 1993 i remember

[strange crag]

looks like I might have a problem with my non-HA container entry script. When the container was built it copies data to a directory inside the container and then executes the script in the container. I have tried to map this to an external volume, but guessing I stuffed that up.
''' volumes:
- /home/pi/ovpn:/data/vpn
- /home/pi/ovpn/data/scripts/entry.sh:/data/scripts/entry.sh ro
'''
so am I on correct here?

[clear ferry]

Don't map files map directories, mapping files is known to be meh, especially if the file doesn't exist to begin with

[proven spruce]

its indeed very meh

[strange crag]

well it executes the one inside the container - I need to be able to edit it outside the container

[clear ferry]

That is how containers work

Still map the directory

Not the file

[strange crag]

but the contents of that directory in the container dont appear in the mapped volume. So how do I get access to the file ( the container wont stay up)

[clear ferry]

Create the file

Map the directory

[strange crag]

done and done - but it still executes the one in the container

unless I stuffed up the above mappings

[clear ferry]

That sounds like wrong mapping

You are probably mapping a directory it creates instead of the actual file

So you have a directory call entry.sh in the container next to a file called entry.sh

[strange crag]

are you able to tell me if those mappings are correct and point to the same spot relatively?

nope i dont have a directory called entry.sh

[clear ferry]

Then it should work, but alas it doesn't

[strange crag]

then I am stuck and dont know how to proceeed

[clear ferry]

Create any file in the folder you are mapping

Then see if it appears inside the container

If it doesn't

You done something wrong boy

[strange crag]

I cant see inside the container - it starts up and quits within 2 seconds

[dusky plank]

command: sleep 600

[strange crag]

the entry.sh is the entry point to the container - so thats the file it executes and its very long (copied down from github) and trying to put breakpoints in it to figure out what is happening, but finding it difficult

where do I pu command:sleep 600? in docker-compose file?

[dusky plank]

you can change entrypoints to whatever you like

yes, you put it in docker-compose

[strange crag]

kewl - how!?

[dusky plank]

not sure if its the right syntax let me check

ok entrypoint should get you there, depends on how the image is built with command:

entrypoint: [ "sleep", "600" ]

[strange crag]

ok - thanks - will give it a try

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze just read that union pacific might be moving it's business out of LA completely in light of 160% increase to rail robberies lol Apparently FedEx/Amazon/UPS are already in the works of pulling out of LA as well. WTF is that gonna do to your economy?

[strange crag]

thanks - starting to figure stuff out now - appreciated!

[clear ferry]

Rail robberies

What is this, the 1700s?

[shadow prawn]

in the usa yes, it's the past and the future in one place

[forest edge]

some news outlets are referring to LA as the new wild west lol

[shadow prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/wild-wild-west-will-smith-gif-12810269

[clear ferry]

Unlike Missouri that is still the old wild west?

[forest edge]

our crime has gone up some too but california is the hot spot

[clear ferry]

What is this crime you speak of? It sounds bothersome

[shadow prawn]

looting?

[forest edge]

train robberies, car robberies and store looting

[clear ferry]

What nonsense

I remember the last time a car got stolen near me, it was my neighbor and she forgot the keys inside over night

5 years ago or some

[forest edge]

they haven't released the 2021 crime stats yet but some are guessing around a 350% increase overal;l

it's not car thefts, it's breaking into cars and stealing the shit out of it lol

[clear ferry]

Yeah, I've had that happen one time when i forgot to lock my car in a shady neighborhood in 2005

They stole my cd player

Guessing some drug users out for a easy snatch

[forest edge]

what no satellite radio?

[clear ferry]

No thankfully that is a US thing

We did the sensible thing with DAB

[forest edge]

the woman got it for free on her forrester for like 6 months, she actually liked it but certianly not paying for that lol

[clear ferry]

There was a band of thieves stealing airbags here around 3-4 years ago, think they broken into at least 50 cars nation wide

It was bonkers

[forest edge]

wonder what norwegian thieves look like, could you even tell them apart from the normal every day goth lookin citizens?

do the thieves paint thier faces red while the normal people go with white?

[clear ferry]

Yes, it is either drug addled people or eastern European gangs in hoods

[umbral cliff]

Sounds like school laptops not locked down enough

[forest edge]

i don't think they are locked down at all

[umbral cliff]

It was the us military which banned the dab frequencies for NA lmao

[clear ferry]

Lulz

[umbral cliff]

They should be if they’re school property

It’s not hard to give a student non admin rights and say you’re only allowed to use this for school

[clear ferry]

We locked them down pretty well, but physical access is always full access anyway

[umbral cliff]

Or just give them a chrome book

Not gonna play games if you can’t do shit on it

[forest edge]

I doubt school laptops could play rust so I assume they let kids bring thier own thier parents bought them

[clear ferry]

Nah, they get decent laptops here

i5 based minimum usually

[umbral cliff]

Also never underestimate the determination to play games

We were playing minecraft with i5s and 4gb of ram, back when integrated graphics were genuinely shit

So a decade ago

[clear ferry]

For primary / secondary school they are covered by school, for vocational / high school they select one of multiple models in year one

[forest edge]

lol minecraft

[clear ferry]

And pay down a percentage of it over three years

[umbral cliff]

Is a good game

[shadow prawn]

we only played cs 1.6

[forest edge]

it can run on just about anything so not a good example lol

[umbral cliff]

In 2011? It struggled

It wasn’t as optimised as now. It needed more ram. And it was running on shitty igpu

[forest edge]

I see videos of minecraft playing on pi zeros and lesser hardware

[umbral cliff]

Yes. Modern minecraft went through optimisation

Alongside Java fixes

[clear ferry]

The standard for schools in my area now is a Lenovo t14s with i5 11tg gen, 16GB ram, 512SSD

[umbral cliff]

It’s still not that playable on pis

[umbral cliff]

Better than my work laptop lol. i5 10th Gen, 256gb ssd, 16gb ram (HP elitebook)

[clear ferry]

They can opt for a MacBook Pro 13" m1

[shadow prawn]

The standard here is a chalkboard

[forest edge]

why tho? don't get why students (for normal grade schools) would need such hardware

[forest edge]

exactly

[clear ferry]

All education is digital

Depending on their additional classes they could be doing cad design or similar

[umbral cliff]

Give them something that works and not something that’ll cause issues too

[forest edge]

well paperback books aren't digital lol

[clear ferry]

Hardly any books are used anymore

[umbral cliff]

They’re fading. All textbooks have digital versions here for example

[clear ferry]

They get the documentation in pdfs

My wife had 5-6 books for her 5 years of master

Everything else was digital

[forest edge]

I doubt it's fading here. too many advocate for traditional reading

[shadow prawn]

yeah master is something different

[umbral cliff]

I had 3 overall for 5 years 2x bachelor degrees. 2 digital and 1 physical (600 page book)

High school was all digital textbooks on my laptop or iPad. Could’ve used physical ones if I bothered

[clear ferry]

They have even less books on high school

[forest edge]

reading on screen strains the eyes alot quicker than reading paperback so it's silly they would expect people to swap to just everything being on the pc

[umbral cliff]

I do love textbook pricing. $60 for the 600 page textbook posted from UK to australia. Or I could’ve gotten a textbook that was 100 pages for $110 from the USA (the latter I downloaded)

[clear ferry]

I'm never going back from e-ink

[umbral cliff]

But you can change the curriculum to not need as much reading

[shadow prawn]

But reading is love, reading is life

[dusky plank]

no

[shadow prawn]

😂

[clear ferry]

I read 1-2h of books every day

[umbral cliff]

I need to read more. Never have enough time to read a fiction book

[forest edge]

https://pics.me.me/derek-zoolander-center-for-kids-who-cant-read-good-and-35311741.png

[clear ferry]

Kindle paperwhite is great

[shadow prawn]

only have real books

[forest edge]

didn't the price of e-ink displays like skyrocket after all that kindle shit?

[clear ferry]

I have shelves of real books, but I only have them for reference

[shadow prawn]

i have to read to much on displays at work, i am happy to read a real book in my freetime

[clear ferry]

Don't confuse LCD for e-ink

[shadow prawn]

yes i know but it is the feeling of a real book

[umbral cliff]

I’ve got a kobo I just have to sit down to read lol

[shadow prawn]

maybe there comes a time when i try one

[umbral cliff]

Definitely give it a go. It feels like an actual page (if backlight is 0)

And if you travel it’s one thin thing not a bunch of books

When I used to go to the uk I had 4 novels in my carry on because I got through 1.5 each way

[forest edge]

kindles was or still are a big thing

they use to be dirt cheap too, not sure what they are now

[umbral cliff]

Still are afaik

I prefer kobo because it integrated with my local public library

So I could rent ebooks

[forest edge]

i get the reason for backing up books digitally and all but paperbacks better never go away.. we would certianly lose something if society reached that point

[umbral cliff]

We have more chance of people stopping reading than getting rid of paperbacks/ hardbacks entirely

[shadow prawn]

it won't happen they will be in coexistance

[forest edge]

you also don't get the little surpise scribbles left by previous owners with ebooks lol

[shadow prawn]

i often buy used ones

[umbral cliff]

Most of the books I buy are new, since I buy them within a month or two of them going on sale usually

[forest edge]

passed down school books were always the best cause there would always be one point where many people who need a nudge in order to get what you were reading so someone before you would put that nudge in the book for you

[umbral cliff]

That’s gone now with basically yearly revisions and new editions

[forest edge]

after i saw that harry potter movie with that book that corrected the formulas it reminded me of some of the books i got in school lol

[umbral cliff]

And schools require the latest edition

(Started in the USA with the publishing houses there)

[forest edge]

they had to redo a lot of school history books here at one point

some shit was wrong that had been taught for years before they revised them

[umbral cliff]

What was wrong?

[forest edge]

I don't remember the specifics it was after I was out of school

[umbral cliff]

Do you remember on what topic it was?

[forest edge]

some of it was about the slavery stuff, and other historical things. something with the indians too if i remember right

you want to read about something funny tho, you should look up what books were banned from schools, which ones that were banned, then returned then banned again lol

[umbral cliff]

Books are banned?

[forest edge]

yea

they would be deemed inappropriate for school teachings

they weren't like history books but more books you would be assigned to read

[umbral cliff]

Yeah I don’t know whether we have any of those

Only requests to ban some books (like one where a 26 year old seduces a 16 year old - bookstores were already pulling it at the time anyway)

[forest edge]

yea I think it was more of a american drama thing cause it would be karen moms who would get it banned etc

I don't think those made it into our schools but like catcher and the rye did

lord of the flies was another book that was banned at one point or still is

that book I had to read in school but i remember hearing it was later banned

[umbral cliff]

Lol we got to read lord of the flies

And watch the movie in class

Was interesting

[forest edge]

over sensitivity in society has made several weird and funny things take place over the years

[shadow prawn]

Would be funny if it wouldn't be so serious

And most things turning up in the usa are coming here a few years later

[forest edge]

I don't think it all originates from us lol

europe had it's fair share of rioting over the years lol

[shadow prawn]

No but if it gets popular in the usa

not the rioting i mean social developments

like discussions about gender

[forest edge]

well rioting is part of the social developments

i agree with all the recent changes and corrected outlooks on things with the one exception of over sensitivity

that one still baffles me

it's why i am no longer blue if I think about it lol

[shadow prawn]

what is 'blue'

a democrat?

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/tobias-funke-david-cross-blue-myself-arrested-development-face-palm-gif-3567424

[shadow prawn]

to be blue in germany is to be drunk af

[clear ferry]

In Norway it would be depressed

[shadow prawn]

I'm blue dabe di dabe dei

[clever mortar]

Yeah, here it's either sad, or very rude

[clear ferry]

IRN BLU

Speech impediment

[forest edge]

how can blue be rude?

[clear ferry]

Wonafan Wozz

[scenic radish]

Because sometimes words mean different things depending on where you live?

[forest edge]

here comes mr rgb

blue = 🖕

[clever mortar]

The air was blue ... as in to swear a lot

[forest edge]

tediore go blue yourself

[scenic radish]

I'm afraid I just did

https://c.tenor.com/olnkZI1dcQQAAAAM/arrested-development-david-cross.gif

[shadow prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/obviously-clearly-donald-trump-eyebrow-raise-gif-12112414

[clear ferry]

[finite atlas]

i'm blue dabedidabedai

[late gate]

Im sitting with the oven on 27c, wool sweater, and a wool blanket. Why am I so cold?

[finite atlas]

corona

[forest edge]

ew wool.. itchy

[shadow prawn]

Coroni

[clear ferry]

Where is the #boneappleteeth @scenic radish

[clear ferry]

Y'all might be dying

[scenic radish]

You have a problem

[clear ferry]

I have 99 of those

But a bitch ain't one

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-aaaaaa-gif-20638663

[late gate]

@clear ferry not dead yet. you just want my unifi equipment!

[clear ferry]

So death is preferable then

[scenic radish]

https://c.tenor.com/r4TTLd5-RxEAAAAM/lotr-so-you-have-chosen-death.gif

[forest edge]

your like the poor version of those filthy rich people who eat monkey brains and what not

and because you can't afford or get your hands on monkey brains or rhino anus you substitute with the cheapest most abundant alternative

but you probably have dreams about eating rhino ass

[scenic radish]

That seems aggressive

[tidal bronze]

So the zwave shut-off valve ain't gonna fit 🤔

[forest edge]

wait, it just sits over a normal ball valve and shuts it?

[tidal bronze]

Yep.

[forest edge]

yea I wouldn't put faith in that, you need the one where that is done internally

[tidal bronze]

Gotta call the plumber to replace the valve I have. So I can close the leak detection loop.

[forest edge]

surprised you didn't just get an electric valve and hook it to whatever controller you wanted

[tidal bronze]

Not much time to tinker anymore. Gotta use time wisely 🙂

[forest edge]

not much to tinker, you control the value with a relay lol

[tidal bronze]

= time

[shadow prawn]

Wtf 😳

[forest edge]

dunno sounds like your calling a plumber anyways, they could have installed the valve and then you could have slapped any relay device on it in mere seconds.. providing you got power nearby that is lol

[shadow prawn]

He needs power for zwave thing also

The problems you may have with a not proper solution arent worth the time also

[forest edge]

internal electric shut off valve is the proper application, not a strap on servo motor lol

electric valves work by way of gates not rotating a ball in a sleeve. that's why they last for years

[tidal bronze]

Gate valves lol

[clear ferry]

This is the normal ones we have inside the houses

Usually there is one out by the street too

[tidal bronze]

That's what I need to replace with.

[scenic radish]

Yeah I'm pretty sure I've read ball valves last longer than gate valves

I want to replace the gate valve on my interior stop with a ball valve. Stupid thing takes like 20 full rotations to close

Or at least leave that alone and put a ball valve inline with the gate valve

Feels like I'm trying to turn a tiny ship around when I open or close it

[tidal bronze]

I don't want an electric only valve of any kind without manual over-ride when supplying water to the house.

[clear ferry]

I love the technique for replacing main valves, they use portable coolers that freeze the water in the pipe, the cut out the old one and put in a new one

[scenic radish]

Oh yeah, I'm taking about a regular valve

[tidal bronze]

Leak detected notification seems pointless if not around at least this will shut water without manual intervention or response to notifications.

[clear ferry]

Yeah, really helps to know there is a leak from your valve when 2000l per minute is pouring out

I'd rather just not know

[tidal bronze]

I have detectors all over, but that does not help to stop the water if there's a leak

[clear ferry]

I've actually never heard of anyone having a leak

It is always floodwater

If there is water in the house

[tidal bronze]

Unlike Norway, unfortunately we do not have Ultra Elite Living Spaces in the US.

[clear ferry]

Y'all should trademark that name

[shadow prawn]

Here leakages in houses from the 60s which are not renewed hapen quite often

[tidal bronze]

It's not common but it happens. I am mainly concerned about dishwashers and fridges

[shadow prawn]

Fridge?

Dont your dishwasher has aqua stop

[tidal bronze]

I doubt it.

[shadow prawn]

And why fridge mine has no water supply

[tidal bronze]

Water Ice etc. All my units have water supply connected.

[shadow prawn]

Well then i would be more concerned about salmonella

[tidal bronze]

lol. Where do you live?

[shadow prawn]

Germany

[tidal bronze]

oh. ok.

[shadow prawn]

We have one of the best tap water in the world

Where do you live

[tidal bronze]

LA

[shadow prawn]

Ah yes the la problem i remember 🙈

Isnt it super expensive to live there

[tidal bronze]

Well some say that.

[clear ferry]

Interesting, all EU dishwashers have aquastop i think

At least every Scandinavian I've seen

Same for washers

[shadow prawn]

Its mandatory for machines here as far as i know

[dusky plank]

we have the best. 🗻

jk we have extremely hard water

[tidal bronze]

aquastop is not going to help with any solenoid failures.

[orchid rose]

Water here is okay, so I drink Pepsi instead... I should probably stop but I can't

[shadow prawn]

Often It detects if there is water in a bowl in bottom of the machine

[scenic radish]

Get a water filter pitcher?

[finite atlas]

yeah aquastops are very common here in germany

[last cedar]

We just go outside when we need ice, right @clear ferry

[finite atlas]

lovely, i want to be able to do that aswell

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-eating-eating-ice-gif-19921852

That is atx

Eating raw water

[finite atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/apetor-russe-urss-russe-urss-glace-gif-15993277

[last cedar]

With his raw bacon

And raw mincemeat

[brisk glen]

dam cats https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/889360043760312330/936089843941900308/Front-Door_Jan-25-2022-9-53-48-PM-EST.mp4

[tidal bronze]

We usually go the fridge for ice and outside for beautiful weather & sun 365 🙂

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/ghetto-raccoon-bye-gif-9230222

Tommorow night

I'll be there

Like "lock up your daughters"

But it is actually "doormats"

[last cedar]

Would be nice tbh, doesn't need to be hot. But could live off grid

At least for everything apart from internet

[finite atlas]

adorable

[finite atlas]

where do you live, that you have such a weather?

[tidal bronze]

LA

[finite atlas]

ew

that temperature

disgusting

[last cedar]

12% humidity?!

https://tenor.com/view/palla-deserto-desert-hot-gif-6014273

[orchid rose]

And all of that probably from the Colorado lakes unless I'm wrong 🙂

[clear ferry]

No armed gunmen?

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

[hallow willow]

<@&330946878646517761> Someone is spamming ^

[clever mortar]

Yeah, we notice 😉

[hallow willow]

haha just letting you know

[fathom sparrow]

Dyno is slowly taking care of it

[shadow prawn]

Nice

[hallow willow]

Poor dyno 😄

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/nothingtosee-disperse-casual-explosion-gif-4545906

[thick crypt]

ping, ping, ping, ping, it never stops 🤣

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-ping-pong-funny-animals-cats-gif-8766860

[static schooner]

It's go time. Burn all the fake users. Spam, spam, spam!

[dusky plank]

lel

spam

at least something different from that steam nonsense

[shadow prawn]

RIP Apetor

[finite atlas]

he was so adorable, but well every legend has its end

[clear ferry]

[dusky plank]

wyd when you find a single airpod?

[clear ferry]

Crush it

Like the inferior earplug it is

[dusky plank]

i want to charge it

but i have no case

might aswell just put it back where i found it

apparently one can track them

i had no tv until 20 lel

[static schooner]

It took me and a friend to get my last CRT TV up a set of stairs. It was a beast and a half

now the biggest problem is just getting your arms around the giant flat screen without flexing it

[clear ferry]

Lol reminds me

I was supposed to find that picture

Of my 24" crts

There we go @shadow prawn

Also a picture of my hometown the 5th of June one year, i took a picture because I had to dig my car out, just for you @strange crag

[dawn prawn]

It snows here in June too sometimes!

[clear ferry]

But June is winter for you

[green inlet]

I sooooo miss my rear projection TV with wheels.

[finite atlas]

yes! with its lovely permanent high pitch noise

[static schooner]

Somebody's watching TV somewhere in this house!

[green inlet]

I paid a little extra. No high pitched noise.

[strange crag]

you can keep you snow Atx! Even in june here (which is winter in our subtropical regions) we dont get snow except at our ski resorts if they are lucky. One year that I know of it did actually snow on ayres rock/uluru, but that was a few flakes and was 20 years ago and a 1 off event.

[umbral cliff]

It’s snowed in canberra before. And a once off in the 70-90s in Melbourne too

[strange crag]

true - but I was trying to convey that snow is rarely seen outside the mountains we ski on.

[forest edge]

lol they are not the same kind of gate as the manual valves but eletric can come in ball as well if you wanted to be picky

[green cradle]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/12-year-old-linux-vulnerability-found

[finite atlas]

Again, i'm a happy windows user, i dont need more reasons to not switch to Linux

[static schooner]

you took the wrong pill

[strange crag]

linux and mac have less viruses than windows. There may be as many windows viruses as there are human viruses! Now how happy are you knowing this?

[finite atlas]

thats the joke..

[strange crag]

oh - then the joke is on me cos I thought you were serious

[fallow karma]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/809482132123811901/878270653411774504/5i76vb.png

I am really happy windows user.

[dusky plank]

yes

windows best

[shadow prawn]

Poor table 😄

[sonic jungle]

I’m trying to find ways to integrate my cat into Home Assistant, what do you guys suggest? Open to DIY solutions :)

I’ve been thinking of putting sensors on the food and water bowls to track how often he eats and drinks

I could also do an automated treat dispenser which triggers when he does certain things 🤔

[umbral cliff]

Surgically implant an esp chip with gps

Please don’t do that

[sonic jungle]

I’ll make it Qi-compatible and put the charger in his bed

Joking aside, I was thinking of putting an AirTag on his collar

[umbral cliff]

That’s probably not a bad idea if you have an apple ecosystem already

[glacial knot]

Neuralink?

[shadow prawn]

Put a camera on his collar

[dusky plank]

and make the stream public

[strange crag]

yeah some people love to watch cat video's - he will have a top youtube site and make heaps of money ( when the cat isnt sleeping of course lol)

[glacial knot]

I know a twitch channel that often streams sleeping cats

but I don't think they make terribly much money

[clear ferry]

That sounds like a very corner case fetish

But what do I know

[glacial knot]

twitch, not the other one

[shadow prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/pussy-cat-cute-gif-14360666

[dusky plank]

pretty sure he has lots of followers

[clear ferry]

They are basically the same platform, one just has less rapists

[forest edge]

make a diy cat scale but place it front of his food so it records it's weight every time they go to eat. recording a cats weight is a really good indicator of health and can spot trouble early

[clear ferry]

We should do that with you too

My BMI of 36 has nothing to do with this

[sonic jungle]

That’s a great idea!

That should be pretty simple to make, too

[dusky plank]

just had a health check, my triglycerid levels are off the chart after 2 years lockdown

[forest edge]

according to my wyze scale i hit 39 BMI when I was on high dose of steriods during lockdown. fattest i ever been and it's depressing when you have trouble tying your own shoe laces

[clear ferry]

I haven't had shoelaces for years

[forest edge]

still wearing animal fur around the feet in norway huh

[clear ferry]

I used to have off the scale cholesterol when I worked as a travelling tech still, now I have perfect cholesterol and blood pressure

[forest edge]

that's because you don't cook your meat

[clear ferry]

I've been wearing this type for a decade, all year, because my feet are radiators

[forest edge]

i would imagine when your fat those might be even harder to put on

[clear ferry]

[forest edge]

only time i ever wore shoes like that was when i went to the gym. course were lace shoes as well.. not those women sketchers

[shadow prawn]

Hopefully my coordinator is arriving today

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-thumbs-up-kid-thumbs-up-meme-brent-ramobjust-gif-19399510

[dusky plank]

which one? tube`s?

[shadow prawn]

no, zzh, there has to be room for improvement

[dusky plank]

at least not conbee, phew

[strange crag]

and hook it up to HA as well! 😉

[shadow prawn]

i had a conbee, then i returned it because of what i read here

[dusky plank]

tru ©️ stories

[forest edge]

wasn't that long ago people here recommended the conbee, i remember

[clear ferry]

I've never seen that

[glacial knot]

I bet atx would 🤢 to my coordinator as well

that's just normal

[clear ferry]

[forest edge]

so fat and blind? does norway have a disability fund?

[clear ferry]

Well yes, if I get sick,state will still pay me 100% for years

[forest edge]

4 years or for years? and what is for years even mean

[clear ferry]

I don't recall the exact number of years

Until we drop til 70%

4 years appears to be right

[last cedar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/se5ent/tuck_in_the_tail_for_optimal_cosiness/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[forest edge]

that videos makes no sense. racoons don't sleep in the open

[tender pollen]

Hi. Anyone who has experience with intercoms here?
Specifically Aiphone GT-1M3-L (https://www.aiphone.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/GT-1C7-L_GT-1M3-L-Installation_ENG.pdf)
I'm trying to figure out which wires does what, so I can connect a Nuki Opener (https://nuki.io/en/opener/)

[forest edge]

@tender pollenask in #hardware-archived

[tender pollen]

@forest edge Thought that was for HomeAssistant related hardware. But I'll try there, thanks.

[shadow prawn]

Am i stupid or isnt it possible to send gifs in discord with the iphone app

[tender pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/i-cant-deal-with-this-cant-handle-rub-eyes-fuck-this-this-is-so-stupid-gif-17425812

Sent from the app on iOS 🙂

[shadow prawn]

Okay i am stupid

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-dumb-gif-20952040

If you tap on the emoji button down on the left on the keyboard of ios then there are no gifs, but theres a second emoji button, confusing

[shadow prawn]

sadly i have still to work a few hours

[proven spruce]

🦙

[shadow prawn]

i get the feeling it will be soon time to get a 3d printer

[sharp peak]

Not sure if this is allowed, but I don't see any rules about promotion. Please let me know if it's not

I work for a company that develops an engine and visual scripting environment called Fabella.

In essence, Fabella allows you to develop interactive audio content with voice input in a graphical and intuitive way. It integrates very well with synthetic voices which makes it really useful for dynamic content.

Fabella deploys to multiple platforms including Google Assistant and Alexa, and It has been used by us internally to develop several audio games released on both the Alexa and Google Assistant platforms. But as it can do web requests and run JavaScript, I think it would be really interesting to see what this community can do with it, maybe even completely unrelated to games.

We are currently in beta and looking for more people to test and give feedback on our product. You can test the product for free, for 1 month.
If anyone is interested in learning more you can check the links below or reach out to me directly!

https://fabellacreator.com/
https://youtu.be/-hnxWMKcDc0

[brisk glen]

Try free… get that garbage out of here

Open sauce it and come back

[empty dock]

HEEHEEHEEHAA

[orchid rose]

Is that the sound you make when you make the face in your profile pic?

[orchid rose]

How interesting

[clever mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/that-was-sarcasm-anti-mixtape-i-was-being-sarcastic-i-wasnt-serious-gif-24122833

[velvet horizon]

@gilded remnant Rule #6: Spam will not be tolerated, including but not limited to: self-promotion, flooding, text walls (longer than 15 lines) and unapproved bots.

Please take the time now to review all of the rules and references in #rules.

For sharing code or logs use https://www.codepile.net/ (pick YAML for the language) or https://paste.debian.net/ (pick YAML for the language).

Command '~rule6' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[clever mortar]

Thou shall not spam

[orchid rose]

Yet they spameth

[clever mortar]

That's ok, I walk not very softly and I carry a really big banhammer

[orchid rose]

Praised be the spam free zone

I'm still unsure if these are bots or not. I guess they must be

[clever mortar]

Given that they've posted normally before, ... who knows

[orchid rose]

Apparently people who fall for these have their accounts reused to spread the exploit. It reminds me of some of those fungi that alter the behavioral patterns of their hosts 😬

[pallid depot]

hello

someone can help me I have some problem to install homassistant on raspberry

[clever mortar]

See the relevant install method channel

[last cedar]

I sleep when I am tired

[torpid loom]

hey folks been using HA for about 1.5 yrs now took a while, but I love it

Whats the correct channel for help with reverse proxy? I am using nginxproxy manager in an unraid container, and cloudflare for DNS, but im having issues with websockets, home assistant loads, and says 'connecting' but then errors out

I am close, but I know Im missing something

[craggy onyx]

Somebody should turn this Lovelace theme into somekind of a "click and install" theme.. would be instant the most used theme of all HA installs

https://github.com/matt8707/hass-config

really looks like a professional finished product

[dusky plank]

no

[shadow prawn]

Phew, short a little into home assistant and chill, an now already some hours have gone past

[hollow glacier]

https://giphy.com/gifs/stone-cold-acIy5aKe4nryg

[lusty bison]

HA!!! just found this today and was in AWE! I started trying to replicate it to no avail...

[craggy onyx]

Why not? is it for ubernerds only or?

[dusky plank]

do you really want to know?

because this channel is for 💩 posting

[green inlet]

And UIs are for the unautomated

[last cedar]

You can't automate everything

https://tenor.com/view/theodoros-gif-18371963

Like clicking the UI can't be automated

[static schooner]

I would have thought that too until I saw what our test teams do with something like AutoIt

It would be funny to automate the clicking of a button in Lovelace 🙂

[craggy onyx]

so your autism got triggered..

[forest edge]

oh 700+ mi range on a single charge.. that is pretty good for an electric vehicle

[strange crag]

is that city or country driving?

city driving allows a lot of regenerative braking, whereas country doesnt

also what vehicle it that?

[forest edge]

highway

[hollow glacier]

i'd bet money this has already been done lol

[forest edge]

it was a tesla converted with a new battery

https://youtu.be/fWj2YCdoc9A

[strange crag]

very impressive! looks like electric vehicles are nearly there. Wonder what the price is for the car and the price to replace the battery?

Nearly there meaning that the car is ready, but what if I put a heavy trailer on it, whats the range then? will it blow up due to the extra current required for the load?

[forest edge]

been curious what the range numbers on the ev ford truck hauling loads will be once they come out.

[finite atlas]

its not all just about how many miles you can do with a single charge, its also about how many miles the battery lasts
you can charge lithium batteries up to 4.4v and have an extra 30% more capacity / range , but also quarter the cycle life of those batteries

and by throwing out the liquid cooling and reinforcements of those tesla batteries, you can easily put 30% more batteries into the same size
doing both together, will make a 100kWh Tesla into a 170kWh where 750 miles are realistic

[green inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/classic-cars-colorful-cars-gif-16778789

[finite atlas]

wroom wroom!

[forest edge]

those analog gauges are sick https://www.evga.com/articles/01544/EVGA-E1/

[finite atlas]

neat

[strange crag]

but your cars life expectancy is limited and so is the drivers!

[odd anchor]

quick question what channel should i post for esphome based questions

[static schooner]

https://discord.gg/x3FA5zsC

[odd anchor]

thanks

[last cedar]

You don't want to know!

[strange crag]

so nowhere near parity with petrol guzzlers?

[last cedar]

Not yet, I can't imagine so anyway

And unless you are looking at a model 3, a tesla is more porsche money, than renault money anyway

My Volvo was 1650 euro back in 2013, so everything is relative!

[strange crag]

yup - here in australia the basic mercedes was considered a luxury car back in the day.

[last cedar]

Realistically, I want an electric car now. An ID4 or a Enyaq would be fine (although I would really want a V90 like fully electric car really)

I don't travel enough to worry about the range, and can charge at home

But a lease on one is like 1/4 of my wage after tax

Buying outright would be 60% of what my house cost, for base model

So not really realistic either way

[strange crag]

I have been saying that for the city they are perfect, but not for country since the range isnt there - or the charge stations. But the car above is good unless it dies in the arse when you put a horse float behind it or it costs an arm and a leg.
yeah - until they can bring the cost down so average joe can buy it its going to be aniche market

[last cedar]

Ordered a hybrid company car, will cost me about 5% of monthly wage instead

I think your last sentence is the issue

Here in Sweden they are raising the diesel and petrol prices to curb car usage

And forcing everyone else to electric, at the same time as the electric prices have soared

[strange crag]

hahaha poor timing on that

I knew they were going to raise prices on fuels and they are also going to phase out fuel cars by 2030 I think I saw, but with covid that may be put back a bit

that was in EU area - not over here tho

[last cedar]

Mmm, my hybrid was ordered in april, might have it by april this year

[strange crag]

hehehehe it caught a case of covid and had to be isolated for a while 😉

[last cedar]

Mmmm!

[dusky plank]

‘scuse me, do you need help setting up a skin that looks like homekit? we‘re here to help you 😉

[forest edge]

the base model ford lightning is only 36K so I wouldn't say niche, just not a whole lot of options in the cheaper side

[strange crag]

as long as it does the 700mi/1100 km and half that with a decent load on its would be kewl

[forest edge]

lol not for 36k

but 300 mi for 36k is not bad

[strange crag]

482km - still less than I get in a crappy ute

[shadow prawn]

how can i change the transition time of groups without restarting zigbee2mqtt, i have changed it in the group.yaml through a file editor but it has not been applied til a restart (home assistant addon)

[forest edge]

you should know better than to ask that in here

[shadow prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-really-oh-really-well-gif-7605661

[shadow prawn]

seems you couldn't reload it without restart anyway

i hate the philips motion sensor

[fallow karma]

Covid test. Looks legit 😆

[finite atlas]

yeah, but by setting the upper charge voltage to 4.4v, you'll only have to charge it 100 times from 0 to 100% and you only have 80% useable capacity left. Thats btw how phone batteries are treated, so you could guess the life expectancy of your fancy 15.000€ car battery.

[finite atlas]

My brothers and my pocket felt that when we drove through sweden ;-;

[shadow prawn]

one plug left and then my first room is moved from the bridge to the new zigbee coordinator

[weak lance]

I just tore out control4, not dealer installed control4. I DIYd it. I want to move to HA. I just want to know if its worth it or should I put my DIY c4 back

[clear ferry]

Proprietary stuff 🤢

[weak lance]

:(

i got rid of it dw

[fathom sparrow]

hangout is the most accidentally clicked channel

every day you see someone pop in and out multiple times

I don't know if anyone uses it

[scenic radish]

I thought its only purpose was to trick people into clicking it

Just like the #hassio-in-docker channel (RIP in peace)

[shadow prawn]

One time in hue bridge moving til new coordiantor and chill and one knows why backup making is so important

[clear ferry]

I have been in hangout multiple times

When i made a docker presentation

And when I was discussing stuff with leapo

[fallow karma]

I'm gonna sell all my vehicles and buy LPG propelled one.
Wanted to convert my Volvo , but it costs almost half value of the vehicle itself. Prices of gas raised too, but still LPG is about 3.20 while petrol is 5.80

It's very popular fuel in Poland, and every gas station has LPG pump

⛽

I've got one car with such conversion, but the tank expired, it's valid only for 10 years

Now i am waiting for revalidation

[hallow willow]

haha that's a huge meme in The Netherlands

[shadow prawn]

In germany also

There are already a bunch of songs that have sampled that

[hidden flax]

Hello everyone. I am looking to make my bedroom smart. I know basically nothing about smart homes and stuff so i am looking for something simple with things like plugs and bulbs. I am trying to stay at a budget of around 300 canadian but could go higher. Feel free to dm me some info

[orchid rose]

There's a reason Netherlands is called swamp Germany and Germans seem to have difficulty recognizing the difference every few decades

You're probably asking a bit too much here Dalton. Start simple and go from there. Think about what you want to achieve and start small - really small

[hidden flax]

Thats what im going for just something small

[orchid rose]

I'm just saying that if you don't want to be more specific than that, people can't really help. If you are looking for suggestions for what to buy, you can ask in #hardware-archived

[dusky plank]

zigbee_night_light.jpg

[hidden flax]

I can be more specific, i was just looking for someone willing to help

[orchid rose]

Lots of those people here, but usually not in DMs but rather openly so other people can see and find it later as well

[hidden flax]

Makes sense.

[hallow willow]

I started out with having my PC turn on / off by voice, from there on I bought some smart sockets so I could have the lights I already have turn on/off with voice control, then I bought a Google Nest Mini to make the voice control more intuitive + they have good sound. This can all be done for under 100 😄

Something like that could be an easy and fun start to smart-home stuff, from there on you can start expanding

[hidden flax]

That was one thing I would like for the pc on and off

So is it like a new power button or something

[orchid rose]

I have my Windows PC turning off with a MQTT message that HA sends every time I leave home or go to sleep and then turn back on when I come home or wake up

You can do a whole lot of things, which is why you should start with something simple and go from there. What is often marketed as "smart" really isn't that smart, it's just a button on your phone instead of a switch on your wall. Automations are what make things smart

[clear ferry]

I ordered a esp based humidifier / aroma diffuser before Christmas, I'm gonna integrate it in my home office setup

[dusky plank]

"smart" - anybody tried the "AI Thermostat" integration yet?

[orchid rose]

my diffuser works with IR 😦

[clear ferry]

NOK 206.74 22%OFF | Smart Wifi Wireless 400ml Aroma Essential Oil Diffuser Air Humidifier Compatible with Alexa and Google Home amazon Voice Control
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOUkNzQ

[hidden flax]

Cool, so you have to install a new switch or something? And then control it on your phone?

[clear ferry]

I don't control a single thing on my phone unless it is a manual override for some odd reason

[orchid rose]

Like I said, it's automated. Nothing is controlled by me if I can help it. When I wake up and get out of bed, the weight sensors on the bed know that

When I get outside the location tracking of my phone knows it and I use that to turn off the lights/PC and turn on the vacuum cleaner

[hidden flax]

Wow. Obviously im gonna start way simpler than that

[hidden flax]

Arent you worried about privacy

[orchid rose]

It's mostly local actually outside of the Google voice assistant

[hallow willow]

You can do it for free aswell 🙂

[clear ferry]

Cloud

[hidden flax]

Wdym?

[hallow willow]

I do have an automation to start my PC but I have no automations to turn it off, as I have to render video projects sometimes lol

[hallow willow]

The PC startup

[hidden flax]

I know but what do you mean by “free”

[orchid rose]

you could technically do conditions for that BeanX

[clear ferry]

Anything that requires stuff to be on happens on my servers

I store very little on my laptop

[dusky plank]

or use normal standby, where the machine decides its time to sleep

[clear ferry]

It all happens over network shares

[orchid rose]

Ha, as if that works with Windows

[dusky plank]

lol

[clear ferry]

Lol windows

[hidden flax]

So true

Maybe goes off after 5 hours

[dusky plank]

i do like windows on my raspberry pi

everything else, not so much 😄

[clear ferry]

🤢

Double disgusting

[orchid rose]

I don't like Windows but I hate everything else more

[hallow willow]

I'm not advanced enough for that yet 😄

[hidden flax]

Lol im not advanced enough to understand what he said

[orchid rose]

It's probably trivial if you can think of a way to know when the encoding is on

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/liar-liar-jim-carrey-blabbing-shut-up-attorney-gif-14256312

[clear ferry]

WMI can read out GPU load

[dusky plank]

everyone starts with 1 simple entity

[orchid rose]

Figure out how to know when it's rendering, make a MQTT switch that it turns on and use that as the condition

[dusky plank]

and ends up with 34209 unknown entities

[orchid rose]

I started well before HA, probably in the late naughties. HA just makes everything so much easier

Americas had a lot of the home automation stuff in the 80s already from what I've read, but it really wasn't common in Europe

[clear ferry]

Late 90s

You kid

[orchid rose]

mate I'm as ancient as you. Just not as nerdy

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-birthday-happy-friend-hbd-gif-20194201

[hidden flax]

Anyone got suggestions for a smart speaker

And plugs

And bulbs

[hallow willow]

smart speaker either Alexa or Google

[hidden flax]

Obv

Just i didnt know if i should go with like sonos or smth or like the actual alexa speakers

[orchid rose]

I've heard people recommend Sonos (which includes Ikea) stuff. Whatever the choice, just pick one and one only (I use Google)

Got my second Chromecast Audio today. 16€ including postage, pogchamp

[tidal bronze]

16? Nice!

[hidden flax]

Yeah i also was wondering if i should get alexa or google. And if 3rd party plugs are good or not

[orchid rose]

I assume you haven't set up Home Assistant yet? The beauty of it is that mostly whatever you buy doesn't really matter that much

[hallow willow]

yea I started with google and you are so limited to products that say "Works with google", I started with home assistant a week ago and I already love it, you can quite literally almost connect anything

I still actively use the google stuff though, as speakers and voice assistant 😄

I have it connected to Home Assistant

[hidden flax]

Nope dont even own a voice assistant

[hidden flax]

Cool

[orchid rose]

With audio (output) you want to pick one standard because they have to be synchronized for it to work properly

[dusky plank]

do we need #showoff or #showroom or sth like that?

[orchid rose]

We probably could use one honestly

[dusky plank]

i randomly see cool ha stuff on /r but not here

[hallow willow]

No it will just make me feel even more like a noob

😂

[hidden flax]

Lol mee too

[orchid rose]

Since #the-water-cooler is often used for that stuff and it quickly disappears with raccoon memes and boomer talk

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/sof-cat-cute-cat-cat-confused-confused-cat-gif-23902414

[orchid rose]

Showing off HA things isn't exactly "support" either so it's more suited here

[finite atlas]

is that you?

[umbral cliff]

Don’t forget @clear ferry vs sonoma

[orchid rose]

boomer talk

[clear ferry]

If I said it was, would you rub my belly @finite atlas

[finite atlas]

yesw!!!!

[tidal bronze]

@orchid rose where did you find CCA for 16?

[orchid rose]

tori.fi

[clear ferry]

You mean common sense Vs badly programmed ai

[umbral cliff]

I feel you’re both badly programmed ai

[orchid rose]

or bad caricatures in a sitcom 😏

[clear ferry]

Can I be Kramer?

https://tenor.com/view/kramer-seinfeld-comedy-gif-7906146

[shadow prawn]

Snapcast! Why does no one here wants to use that 😂

[orchid rose]

I haven't watched the show but isn't he supposed to be the comedic relief in a show that is mostly built around Seinfeld. You're more the Seinfeld I'm afraid atx

[hidden flax]

I’ll definitely have a look

[clear ferry]

I'm the deadpan Jewish humour, no say it isn't so

At least I wasn't Jason Alexander

[shadow prawn]

At least it is fully open source

[orchid rose]

I didn't want to be rude

[umbral cliff]

It’s atx he’s rude to us so it’s fair game back

[orchid rose]

I prefer to (very) thinly vail my sarcasm

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/schitts-creek-alexis-rose-rude-thats-very-rude-gif-16124053

[tidal bronze]

Didn't atx invent Rude ?

[orchid rose]

Dutch are still worse

[clear ferry]

My Dutch accent is quite good

[tidal bronze]

Never tried Sonos

[orchid rose]

Tinkerer and some others say it's good and I haven't seen people cry about it so it's probably is fine. I'd be surprised if any of the audio standards were bad tbh, but mixing and matching is going to be pain

[tidal bronze]

I was thinking about Sonos before spotcast but pretty happy with CCA and external amps.

[clear ferry]

I do love my ikea symfonisk

It's Sonos inside

[tidal bronze]

They do sound good. Never messed with groups and mix/match.

[orchid rose]

Good is somewhat arguable here. There's no way of connecting non-sonos speakers to the system, right?

[tidal bronze]

Sonos amp

[orchid rose]

Oh, then nvm

[hallow willow]

I'm dutch 😦

[orchid rose]

oof

[tidal bronze]

I've deployed many but never used it at home.

[shadow prawn]

But hell expensive and if sonos says your speaker has to be recycled it is what it is

[umbral cliff]

IKEA symphonsk is cheap

For a wifi speaker

[hidden flax]

Hows the quallity and what voice assistant does it have

[orchid rose]

The fact that Google straight out screwed people by cancelling the Chromecast Audio is the only reason I don't openly recommend it. That and the fact that Google is rather evil these days

[tidal bronze]

Tell me about it.

[umbral cliff]

Doesn’t have a mic so no assistant. Nice quality though

[tidal bronze]

Pretty disappointed in free Google suite

[hidden flax]

Oof I already have a bluetooth speaker I am looking for a voice assistant now

[orchid rose]

Google assistant is pretty great ngl

[umbral cliff]

Then what’s your preferred voice assistant

A google mini or whatever they’re called would do that

Or something larger if you wanted

[tidal bronze]

GA for me as well.

[umbral cliff]

Or if you have an iPhone/ apple system then a HomePod is an option

Good quality but Siri sucks

[last cedar]

Alternative here would be E85, but that is also expensive, and you need more than you do need petrol (liter for liter) effectively

[orchid rose]

Right, depends on your phone as well as that will work as an assistant as well

Somehow I always assume everyone just uses Android, but that doesn't seem to be the case 🙂

[umbral cliff]

Google assistant works better with iPhone than HomePods with android too lmao

[orchid rose]

shocking. It's almost like one of them is actively against combining the functionality

[shadow prawn]

Well who could that be 🤨

[clear ferry]

It understands Finnish? Just that makes it impressive

Kaksi prosesseri hyvää

[tidal bronze]

Don't know about Sonos but CCA + 18" subs do sound good 😆

[hidden flax]

I disagree

[umbral cliff]

With which part

[orchid rose]

I know you kidd but Finnish is actually perfect for voice control since it's a phonetic (?) language. And the recognition part works pretty much perfectly. Unfortunately Google screws us so none of the assistant features currently work is Finnish. Because of reasons.

[hidden flax]

siri sucking

[clear ferry]

Ooof cerwin Vega, that brings me back to edgy kids in the 90s

[crisp sapphire]

Someone tell me im delusional.
Are there really no flourecent tube fixtures with built in ballasts?
(Other than tiny portable ones)

like really?

[tidal bronze]

Can never part with them

[clear ferry]

They have their place

But they Butcher a lot of music

[tidal bronze]

These are for those loud moments. Driving 2 qsc 2k

[hidden flax]

What smart speakers have good sound with bass and voice assistant

[clear ferry]

None

[tidal bronze]

Bass and smart anything does not go together

[clear ferry]

Cure 25th concert is worth checking out @tidal bronze

[tidal bronze]

But all depends on how much of a bass addict you are.

[clear ferry]

They did the audio very well

[tidal bronze]

DTS or ATMOS?

[clear ferry]

Mine says DCA but it feels like DTS

Blu-ray doesn't mention anything either

The Cure - 40 Live Curaetion 25 + Anniversary [Blu-ray] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VW3ZH99/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_K6X67BMP5Y0Y1H0DARVM

[tidal bronze]

Yep nothing on Audio

[clear ferry]

It sounds incredible though

[tidal bronze]

Will checkout tonight. Thank you.

I wonder if they make any lan controlled crossovers

Welp they do https://www.minidsp.com/products/accessories/wi-dg

[clear ferry]

It is the 40th live in Hyde park bit that I'm watching though

Since the BD is a double feature

Being a hobby musician for 30 years music dvds are something i watch a lot

[tidal bronze]

This was mind blowing https://www.amazon.com/Hans-Zimmer-Live-Prague-Blu-ray/dp/B0757G5PXW

[clear ferry]

downloading purchasing now

[orchid rose]

ngl I took atx as someone who'd despise electronic

[tidal bronze]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TetmPdNkXo this on ATMOS will make toes curl

[clear ferry]

Electronic music? No

Dubstep? Yes

That is some adhd RGB nonsense

[proven spruce]

but... dubstep is electronic music

[tidal bronze]

Dubstep and/or chill-step

[orchid rose]

I don't approve of dissing chill-step

[clear ferry]

Give me house any time of the day

Robert Miles is great

[tidal bronze]

Chill-step is my current fav

[proven spruce]

norwegian folk music?

[tidal bronze]

@clear ferry you have ATMOS right?

[clear ferry]

No atmos

[orchid rose]

Pretty sure he has a wife instead (kappa)

[tidal bronze]

DTS X?

[clear ferry]

Yes

[clear ferry]

Norwegian blues has been big for a few decades now

[tidal bronze]

Zimmer I would force DTS X if you don't have ATMOS

[orchid rose]

Really? With the overhead nerd stuff and everything?

(I'd install those in a heartbeat btw if I didn't leave in a rental)

[tidal bronze]

ATMOS is life changing 🙂

[orchid rose]

I just thought atx was more oldschool than that

[last cedar]

Well, not cooking meat would imply that

[clear ferry]

Oh no, I don't have DTS x

[orchid rose]

that is quite oldschool indeed 😂

[clear ferry]

Just regular dts

[proven spruce]

atmos is too op anyway

[tidal bronze]

Force DTS or NEO then.

[clear ferry]

My main living room is 5.0 and my upstairs living room is 2.0 with some nice schnell e-5s

[orchid rose]

Quad, you're alone in this it seems. Just be glad we all don't use soundbars

[tidal bronze]

LMAO.

No soundbars. What a POS is that.

[orchid rose]

future apparently

[clear ferry]

I bought the schnells for $100 5 years ago

[tidal bronze]

Nopes

[clear ferry]

They are amazing

[proven spruce]

POS that appeases the cable hater and saves a lot of space in the room

the cable hater being the wife

[tidal bronze]

No cables here. All equipment is in the garage, nothing but TV and Speakers in rooms.

[orchid rose]

It can be done but it takes a lot of work

[tidal bronze]

I agree.

[proven spruce]

in europe it takes a lot lot lot of work

[clear ferry]

Only in brick Europe

The Scandinavians laugh in wood houses

[proven spruce]

welcome to my part of europe then

[orchid rose]

I thought we burned most of the wooden parts

[clear ferry]

That was the Russians

Or the Germans

I don't remember

[orchid rose]

I see, just Finnish things

[clear ferry]

Scorched earth tactics

[tidal bronze]

I run 7.4.4 for ATMOS

[orchid rose]

Are you sure that's enough of speakers?

[tidal bronze]

LMAO

REW + loads of time.

[proven spruce]

WHAT! no floor speakers?

[tidal bronze]

Or and 6 bass shakers in the chairs

[orchid rose]

What if the plane flies under your seats?

[tidal bronze]

Mucho problemo

[orchid rose]

and by plane I mean the plane in that one demo that actually supports any of this crap 😛

[tidal bronze]

ATMOS was eye opening but tactile transducers gave it a whole new meaning. Under 40hz is simply crazy

[shadow prawn]

I‘m a fan of the good old stereo triangle

[orchid rose]

Honestly Atmos is pretty nice, but I'd expect it to be similar to 5.1 that it's seldom used to its potential

Stereo vs mono is just huge, while everything since has been rather minor

[tidal bronze]

Most of them call ATMOS but not mastered properly. But when come across the right track it's just amazing.

I would recommend bass shakers for anyone. '