Y'all can do it
#the-water-cooler
clear ferry
forest edge
gas prices in the bigger cities generally are higher and you get bonus points if it's near a coast
tidal bronze
Y'all can do it
You like ?😆
clear ferry
forest edge
wtf is up with the pinball machine surge
strange vapor
New crypto which requires proof of high score? 😇
orchid rose
I'm selling NFTs of my high scores
strange vapor
You can use it as your profile on Twitter!!! https://www.theverge.com/2022/1/20/22893502/nft-twitter-profile-picture-crypto-wallet-opensea-coinbase-right-click
umbral cliff
@jade tartan try this https://www.project-aurora.com/
Stuff using company shit
Ah unsure about mobo & GPU, don't use those rgb since I can't see them
I know it supports a bunch of mice and keyboards though
But it may, worth trying
Theres a few other programs I saw on a google too (that I haven't personally used though) so maybe one of them could do it all
Why?
Your carrier cares about what phone you run?
Weird
Just buy yourself a used phone and see what its like. Or if you want to give a challenge, buy a broken one and repair it
Budget phones exist, but also go get a broken one and try to repair it lol
Or get VR
finite atlas
i got a pixel 4 xl for 350€ in pretty much brand new condition besides some scratches at the sides of the phone
no scratches on the screen & back, battery was still at 97% capacity, best phone i ever had honestly
wispy stag
Friend gave me a pixel 3a recently
just didn't want it
I'm still looking for a Pixel 6 Pro in 256, but it's relatively hard to find one around
Trying to move off samsung being my main phone
forest edge
lol Huawei that shit is banned here
clear ferry
Yes, we know y'all Cray Cray
fallow karma
Ex president of murica was brilliant. Banned Huawei and now Chinese banned us .
glacial knot
China banned Poland?
fallow karma
Banned all of us from semiconductors and mcu's
clear ferry
On my way to Sweden to buy cheap baby stuff
Printed my digital Corona certificate
In case the internet breaks
forest edge
we banned a couple of other chinese companies since biden as well
one of them is paying us millions of dollars to try and get unbanned lol
clear ferry
Which one?
forest edge
some 3 letter one, think it was a smartphone company don't remember the name
XTE or something
clear ferry
ZTE?
forest edge
yea thats it
forest edge
not sure if it's the only company or what. I know Huawei is hurting, they were spending like 1 out of every 7 bucks buying supplies from US which is now cut off
just got done dissecting my V3 to add an external antenna
dunno why they just don't make these with sma connectors
one of the top 3 biggest complaints about wyze cams is range since V1 so why not learn from that
clear ferry
Huawei switched to their own mobile OS after the Android ban
It is supposed to be very good
fallow karma
not sure if it's the only company or what. I know Huawei is hurting, they were s...
Why the hell is cut off? Biden don't like cheaper phones or what?
forest edge
It is supposed to be very good
it's excellent..ᵃᵗ ˢᵖʸⁱⁿᵍ ᵒⁿ ʸᵒᵘ
forest edge
Why the hell is cut off? Biden don't like cheaper phones or what?
cut off cause they were caught being nefarious
clear ferry
it's excellent..ᵃᵗ ˢᵖʸⁱⁿᵍ ᵒⁿ ʸᵒᵘ
Rather the Chinese then the us
fallow karma
Btw Chinese has no reason to spying US (or other who) , they copied everything decade ago and improved it significantly
proven spruce
US has no reason either but they do 😉
fallow karma
US are known for being paranoid about spying
clever mortar
s/US/$country/
fallow karma
BTW I'm in that comfortable situation, that we own nothing, so no one spying us
proven spruce
chinese don't trust gweilo
clear ferry
except austria
You just want to make better snail pastry
dusky plank
yes, no 0days for these yet
just recently we discovered a massive leak in the vaccine database
it was a simple sql escapade specifying the table in the query.
their response was basically "well, its forbidden to do that. so its not a issue"
and they are not going to do anything about it
fallow karma
But you're rather disciplined nation. Say in Poland that anything is forbidden, people just will start do that. Because it's forbidden
proven spruce
that is how it should be
fallow karma
This year they significantly raised speeding tickets. And other trafic penalty
forest edge
Chinese are major control freaks, they spy on everyone
proven spruce
says a murican
fallow karma
Chinese are major control freaks, they spy on everyone
I've got nothing to hide
forest edge
you all not seen the linus tech tips show where they bought a chinese tv and had to use a vpn or something to even see what the features on the tv were cause it was so locked down lol
proven spruce
?
dusky plank
I've got nothing to hide
that statement is just plain wrong and not thought through enough
forest edge
chinese companies are infamous for being shady
proven spruce
if you use facebook you certainly have nothing to hide anymore 🤣
umbral cliff
you all not seen the linus tech tips show where they bought a chinese tv and had...
If it’s only intended for the Chinese market then not surprising it only worked within China. They don’t want people importing them
forest edge
What a cunt
don't talk about your dad that way
clear ferry
if you use facebook you certainly have nothing to hide anymore 🤣
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who didn't sign up for Facebook
proven spruce
netflix is like that too, spy freaks
forest edge
If it’s only intended for the Chinese market then not surprising it only worked ...
it's more than that
fallow karma
My bank account is always empty, and my porn movies preferencies aren't secret.
umbral cliff
I grew up at the age where everyone had Facebook, but no one cared about the privacy aspect, now it’s tied into communication for me so I’m unfortunately heavily locked in
forest edge
lol heavily locked in
proven spruce
my facebook use is limited to having a business page on it
dusky plank
but you dont want your insurance company to know that you were drunk 29084 times during lockdown and thus preventing a liver transplantation
forest edge
wtf kind of statement is that
clear ferry
My bank account is always empty, and my porn movies preferencies aren't secret.
You too like old milfs who try to setup docker but fail miserably?
fallow karma
Kind of
umbral cliff
but you dont want your insurance company to know that you were drunk 29084 times...
Imagine having a insurance company decide whether you could get life saving treatment
proven spruce
we have free healthcare tho...
forest edge
nothing is "free"
proven spruce
except from printing US dollars
fallow karma
Insurance? I have one, for my car, it's obligatory
dusky plank
poland funny lol
umbral cliff
Our insurance is embedded into the annual registration fee. You can’t have a registered car and not have insurance
forest edge
how the hell did this go from chinese to insurance lol
umbral cliff
(It’s only for person damage -CTP, property you need to pay for)
fallow karma
We also, but it's possible. Trick is not get caught
clear ferry
Imagine having a insurance company decide whether you could get life saving trea...
They actually started with insurance policies where you pay based on how nice you drive here, i said fuck that shit 
proven spruce
someone started talking about healthcare and there are muricans in here
clear ferry
Odb plug continuously telling them how you drive
umbral cliff
They actually started with insurance policies where you pay based on how nice yo...
Ew like what the UK does for young drivers. And still charges them a fortune
forest edge
They actually started with insurance policies where you pay based on how nice yo...
you mean how often you don't slide off the road down a mountain
proven spruce
we do lose insurance bonuses based on the number of accidents involved in
proven spruce
bigger engine bigger trouble?
umbral cliff
Here under 25s in a bmw pay $500-600 a year for third party property & fire and theft. And comprehensive is $1200-1500 or so
Over 25 halve those numbers pretty much
fallow karma
bigger engine bigger trouble?
Except muricans cars with like 31hp/liter
clear ferry
I pay NOK800 a month for full insurance including engine and gearbox on my xc90
forest edge
31hp? you mean lawnmowers?
fallow karma
No, e.g 1991 5.0 firebird
forest edge
lol '91
fallow karma
Ok, 94 😎
forest edge
atleast your slightly ahead of Puerto Rico, think every car there is 68 and older
fallow karma
Or Havana
Nevermind, we had our car "Warszawa" years ago , it was copy of Russian copy of some Mercury or something. And it was excepted from capacity depending insurance :)
Because it was 2.4 with like 60 Hp
forest edge
a copy of a copy? lol
fallow karma
Yeap
forest edge
that's what chinese products are
forest edge
certianly looks american inspired
proven spruce
i just want an Electric Trabant
forest edge
the only thing great about those old cars was the fact they were tanks.. not this cheap flimsy metal and plastic they use now
proven spruce
not the Trabant 🤣
clear ferry
Had to outsource the Tesla production to China to make the build quality usable so
forest edge
they didn't outsource they just built a 3rd factory there
clear ferry
Oh, so your domestic models still suck then?
forest edge
from my understand tesla got can't say no kind of deal with it
win win for tesla since now your teslas will come from china since it's cheaper to ship lol
clear ferry
I was reading the news
And had to stop for a second
"Taliban has arrived in Norway"
proven spruce
and what's the actual news?
forest edge
don't your children already pop out and stamped with a taliban branding?
orchid rose
diplomatic envoy probably
forest edge
they looking to get some of that easy eu monnies
clear ferry
They are doing Talks here, just like the Clinton talks in the 90s
orchid rose
I guess they ran out of the money US spent on the country. Norway is not in the EU btw
orchid rose
imagine staying out because of some silly fish 😛
forest edge
I guess they ran out of the money US spent on the country. Norway is not in the ...
reps from all over eu are taking part of it.. they aren't just going there to talk to only the norwegian goverment lol
norway is just a rest stop of sorts
orchid rose
Have to be held somewhere and Norway is nice this time of the year
Have they gotten any of the financial support back yet? The country was mostly ran on foreign money until Taliban took over
forest edge
I take that back, it says norway invited them.. so I guess it's not just a mere rest stop
orchid rose
Maybe they want their skis back https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-0q6EMVkAEyiO1?format=jpg&name=large
forest edge
this is what atx is gonna be seeing outside his window
it's about time we are gonna hear news about terrorism in norway, just sad that a single incident would likely wipe norwegians off the map entirely
clear ferry
umbral cliff
There was even a movie about it wasn't there?
clear ferry
Think so, haven't seen it
I was on the couch sleeping when it happened, my wife frantically calling me because I usually worked in the area at the time
orchid rose
They didn't find him insane?
clear ferry
No
orchid rose
Unfortunate, 21 years isn't that much...
forest edge
uh max 21 year sentence? for murder? wtf norway
clear ferry
He will probably never get out
forest edge
he will in 11 more years lol
clear ferry
We have 3000 jail cells total in Norway, don't think we have ever had more than 50% capacity
forest edge
cause you set the max amount of prision time for murder to being only 21 years
wtf kind of logic is that
clear ferry
Noone has ever been imprisoned 21y afaik
But his case is different, they can keep him indefinitely
forest edge
oh they get out way earlier? even dumber
clear ferry
We rehabilitate people
strange vapor
"Although Norway's maximum sentence is 21 years, Breivik could be held longer under a provision that allows authorities to keep criminals in prison for as long as they're considered a menace to society."
It's right there in the article.
forest edge
you know why am i surprised.. your prisions are on a farm with a pond and the inmates leasurly sit around and fish all day
forest edge
I dunno how that hasn't bitten you all in the ass more than it has by now
I guess cause noone goes to norway
proven spruce
rehabilitation tends to be more efficient when the inmates don't have to resort to criminal behaviour while imprisoned
forest edge
rehabilitation is a myth
umbral cliff
It is not
forest edge
you carve up 77 people and stop is not due to rehabilitation, you stop cause you done got your fill
strange vapor
After a couple of nasty incidents during The Troubles in Ireland, prisons in the Republic moved away from what amounting to torturing prisoners to making them more comfortable while still restricting what prisoners can do. Outside of a certain core of assholes associated with known gangs, the amount of re-incarceration has plummeted.
umbral cliff
you carve up 77 people and stop is not due to rehabilitation, you stop cause you...
Well if they can't be rehabilitated then they stay locked away
Most criminals can be rehabilitated
forest edge
point is, just because someone stop doesn't mean they are rehabilitated. it's not some magical cure
umbral cliff
No but you can make an effort to help rehabilitate people who may have had a bad moment
clear ferry
Ssssh don't tell @forest edge he is still sleeping inside the American dream
umbral cliff
The other useless thing is the death penalty, doesn't do shit
forest edge
like alcholics and drug abuse, you think those people don't live the rest of thier lives on the edge of diving back into the bottle?
strange vapor
point is, just because someone stop doesn't mean they are rehabilitated. it's no...
I don't think anyone said is it, and in the case of Breivik, they've specifically stated he'll probably be kept in well past the 21 years as he's refused to show any remorse.
umbral cliff
like alcholics and drug abuse, you think those people don't live the rest of thi...
No they don't
(Drug abuse is also something where harm reduction such as safe inejection rooms are useful)
forest edge
The other useless thing is the death penalty, doesn't do shit
dosen't do shit? it does something lol
umbral cliff
dosen't do shit? it does something lol
Doesn't stop or reduce crime
forest edge
course not, but it still rids one bad apple
umbral cliff
And numerous others who don't deserve it (eg falsely accused or could be rehabilitated or poor legal representation screwing them over)
forest edge
falsely accused is a whole other issue
umbral cliff
Still a negative of the death penalty
forest edge
but if someone is capable of commiting a crime once, they will always be in that state. just because they stop isn't because rehabilitation "shown them the light" it's cause they know if they tell you whatever you want to hear they will be set loose
umbral cliff
Sonoma im guessing you haven't studied this stuff at all have you
forest edge
lol studied
umbral cliff
lol studied
Yes because this is a topic that needs more than the american opinion that everyone is terrible and should be locked up
forest edge
that's right up there with parents who think giving thier children suckers and pep talks is better than an old fashioned spanking
umbral cliff
that's right up there with parents who think giving thier children suckers and p...
Well yes child abuse is bad
forest edge
it's not child abuse, it's called discipline
something children these days know nothing about
thus why crime is way higher now then it ever has been
orchid rose
lol
forest edge
all over the world, not just in the us
forest edge
ok maybe not norway but then your number decline, not climb
orchid rose
forest edge
lol 2012
orchid rose
Sure, but the point of that one was the perception of it which I just find funny
forest edge
Sure, but the point of that one was the perception of it which I just find funny
they instituted the child pampering shit long before 1996 where that chart starts at
just fyi
orchid rose
babies don't commit crimes though
forest edge
no they grow up..
orchid rose
so you would see the effects 15-30 years later
orchid rose
umbral cliff
Wow thats gone up by so much /s
umbral cliff
i call that chart bs
Because it doesn't agree with your thoughts?
proven spruce
best way to argue
forest edge
I see no source.. why would i agree with it?
orchid rose
proven spruce
cute
proven spruce
its easier to dismiss the data outright
umbral cliff
To see if you're wrong about the data being false
proven spruce
covid is also made up
orchid rose
Statista isn't exactly known for making shit up are they. Or BBC for that matter
proven spruce
anyone can be a statista
forest edge
foreigners who are often wrong about most things that happen in the US google search for proof on the interwebs and pluck any image they find then try and hold it as gold.. i mean ...
proven spruce
we're all living in a simulation
forest edge
need i say more?
proven spruce
you didn't have to say more long time ago...
umbral cliff
Also fun fact, even if youths commit crime they often stop once they reah a turning point in their life, such as when they get a job/ study/ etc (or even just age)
umbral cliff
foreigners who are often wrong about most things that happen in the US google se...
Nice except I've actually studied this stuff, and guess what people think crime rates go up, whilst they're dropping
forest edge
good for au
orchid rose
I mean, I had to use google since you didn't actually post any sources for your claim that crime is up and it's because we've stopped spanking kids
umbral cliff
good for au
No, USA
forest edge
I mean, I had to use google since you didn't actually post any sources for your ...
I am alive, been alive and in person to witness.. i am the source
orchid rose
I see
umbral cliff
Heh so when sonoma was young the crime was up
proven spruce
n = 1 statistics, my favorite
forest edge
been around long enough to actually see babies grow up and commit crimes
what about you?
umbral cliff
Cant share the article because its behind a paywall
clear ferry
Ah still asleep inside the dream i see
proven spruce
i saw a baby steal toys
umbral cliff
what about you?
I've studied youth crime demographics and the theories that help explain the statistics
Also fun, looks like poverty causes property crime. Maybe the US should look at fixing their rising wealth divide https://www.emerald.com/insight/content/doi/10.1108/IJSE-04-2017-0167/full/html
forest edge
you have read articles/opinions written by others based on thier theories and half assed statistical data
strange vapor
@umbral cliff Why are you trying to bring logic to this argument.... that doesn't work in the US...
umbral cliff
you have read articles/opinions written by others based on thier theories and ha...
So the FBI/ etc are half assed stats?
proven spruce
those are deep state drones
forest edge
you think the world has been flawless with keeping statistical data on everything all this time?
sure the isp maybe
but everything else
umbral cliff
Actually its rather accurate because they actually want to track this stuff. Stats are important
forest edge
when you read these studies do you not check the source and read how they obtained the data and what sources they dervived from?
you will always see that there are holes
so partial of what is written is "educated" guestamites
umbral cliff
when you read these studies do you not check the source and read how they obtain...
Yes official sources usually. Because the governments like to keep track on what happens
strange vapor
when you read these studies do you not check the source and read how they obtain...
So you have better data than people who's jobs is to go out and collate actual data? Sure there's also flaws in statistics, but they're a lot better than pulling figures out of your arse.
forest edge
goverment is even worse at tracking data then independent
proven spruce
i get all my data from twitter... its 100% legit accurate
forest edge
@strange vaporatleast you admited that there are flaws
umbral cliff
goverment is even worse at tracking data then independent
On this stuff, not really
Its not hard to track that x people got convicted
forest edge
btw that chart posted only listed violent crime, not all crime
that limits it considerably
orchid rose
well one of them was
strange vapor
<@!311636216590237706>atleast you admited that there are flaws
It's still far far better data than a gut feeling, and I know some of the people working in the Central Statistics Office in Ireland, and the lengths they go to in order to make sure data is as accurate as possible are extreme.
orchid rose
Besides violent crime, what crime do you feel like is going up?
strange vapor
For example, part of their mandate is to peer review stats and methods from other countries, and other countries do the same to their data.
forest edge
well for lower pop countries it's probably a whole lot easier to track such data
try and get accurate data out of india
forest edge
even the covid data coming out of that country is partial guestimates
umbral cliff
Besides violent crime, what crime do you feel like is going up?
Property thefts go up, due to rising inequality and poverty
forest edge
and thats recent
forest edge
Besides violent crime, what crime do you feel like is going up?
all crime is risen
umbral cliff
try and get accurate data out of india
The USA is a developed nation, you lot have the money and the ability to track statistics effectively. Thus it can be trusted
orchid rose
Property thefts go up, due to rising inequality and poverty
It does in theory, but overall trend seems to be downwards as well
forest edge
The USA is a developed nation, you lot have the money and the ability to track s...
too many people, too much area.. it's not possible to be as accurate as they make it seem
orchid rose
it did peak in the 90s so the graph is a bit misleading
umbral cliff
too many people, too much area.. it's not possible to be as accurate as they mak...
Except they don't do individual reporting, the prisons report in, the courts report in, then the states report in
Its all collated together
forest edge
if i started posting charts where they show data that global warming is not real.. would you all just believe it?
umbral cliff
No because most would show it is real
forest edge
but they have actual data comfirming global warming is not real tho
umbral cliff
So far you have yet to show anything more than "huh dur its going up" and "Oh the stats are fake"
forest edge
how do you explain that
umbral cliff
but they have actual data comfirming global warming is not real tho
From who?
forest edge
scientist and everything, do you not read the news?
forest edge
this isn't new that they have shows data for both sides this whole time for the past 10+ years
but the point is
just because someone shows a chart dosen't make it absolute
umbral cliff
The point is criminologists have agreed that it is not rising. Just like environmental scientists have agreed that climate change is real
proven spruce
"scientists and everything" has the best data
umbral cliff
1 chart doesn't make it absolute you're correct. Except we've done 3 or 4 charts and a couple of acadmic articles
proven spruce
i've lived long enough to see with my own eyes everything is warmer
therefore don't trust the data
forest edge
lol blakadder i think we turned you into a troll
proven spruce
nope, i always was a troll
i also lived long enough to know not argue people over the internet about politics and religion, and lately also science
too many turned science into some sort of religion
umbral cliff
Honestly im just enjoying debating a topic that I spent a couple years studying
forest edge
I really don't care what youngins believe these days.. considering the amount of weird shit that continues to keep happening I'm sure the world will end soon enough lol
umbral cliff
Criminology is a topic I can write essays about
umbral cliff
I really don't care what youngins believe these days.. considering the amount of...
Do youngings to you mean anyone younger than 80?
proven spruce
debating should involve both parties being knowledgeable about the topic, innit
glacial knot
It gets annoying when the other party can't even read your data =.=
proven spruce
younger than 69
umbral cliff
debating should involve both parties being knowledgeable about the topic, innit
Oh yeah, else you get a headache
proven spruce
i get a stomachache from all the laughing
glacial knot
depends on whether it's someone I have to talk to, or someone I can just ingore
my brother being an idiot is a different kind of annoying than a caricature of the clichée boomer being an idiot
forest edge
I don't find it annoying, I get a kick out of hearing people from other countries be so mislead on what really happens in the states lol
especially about dumb shit
umbral cliff
I don't find it annoying, I get a kick out of hearing people from other countrie...
Yet don't you do the same with norway?
forest edge
what i do with atx is special and nothing what these debates are
if you take anything i say to atx as being serious then I am sorry you been thinking that all this time, but that in itself is hillarious
umbral cliff
if you take anything i say to atx as being serious then I am sorry you been thin...
Oh I don't think anything you say is serious
forest edge
you sure? cause you kept going on about studying criminology in au for 2 years and tried to apply it to US seemed a little serious
i can post charts too!
proven spruce
i love that documentary
umbral cliff
you sure? cause you kept going on about studying criminology in au for 2 years a...
Lol 2 years. But also yes I got serious about presenting data, because I enjoyed that shit (finding and analysing data)
forest edge
honestly I take every study I read with a grain of salt till it's something that cannot be refuted at all and basically most everything can be refuted
was easier to believe stuff I read in text books and newspapers when i was young but then as I got older and you learn they had to redo much of that shit cause it was "proven" wrong now when it was "proven" right then is just a setup for a really bad joke
and shit now that is "proven" right now will likely be "proven" wrong later, history does repeat itself.. they "proved" that
you'll understand when you get older
umbral cliff
was easier to believe stuff I read in text books and newspapers when i was young...
The stats don't change though, the scientific view does. Eg smoking and cancer, fossil fuels and carbon emissions. Stats existed for that stuff
Anyway im off to go crimp cat 6
forest edge
stats do change, sources from which those stats derived from can be debated extensively, not mention accuracy is highly debatable
finite atlas
EU every year to Norway
its norways best choice to stay out of the EU
forest edge
cancer is a good example fo that
dawn prawn
He was not let out
Ah well only 11 years to go
dawn prawn
So why don't you go look at the FBI crime data yourself?
its too confronting
forest edge
is remote start for vehicles illegal in europe?
clever mortar
Is it illegal in the USA?
Remote start has been a thing here since at least the 80s
forest edge
no, but ran across a youtube video where a dude used remote start and acted like it was something brand new and people in the comments were saying it was cause they were illegal in europe
thus why i asked
clever mortar
Europe is a big place, laws vary
Also, imagine idiots on YouTube not having a clue
forest edge
Europe is a big place, laws vary
I mean this right here suggests that it could be in parts of europe lol
proven spruce
albania is in europe, so yeah
clever mortar
So is Russia
proven spruce
shhh, we don't talk about russia
we pretend they're another continent
until they invade
then i'll be all: "Privyet!"
forest edge
can't even search for what parts of europe everything just brings up laws regarding working remotely
proven spruce
try Bing
forest edge
no thx
clear ferry
Who needs remote start
I just start my car
Then go in
And watch some TV
It's not like we live in a crime cesspool
clever mortar
Yeah, it's pretty normal here for folks to leave their car warming up/cooling down on the drive
forest edge
what does crime have to do with remote start?
oh i see you leave your doors unlocked as well
clear ferry
Yes
forest edge
clear ferry
You are finally contemplating getting kids then
forest edge
why? so they can grow up and come on discord and deal with norwegians? who would ever wish that on a child
clear ferry
finite atlas
why? so they can grow up and come on discord and deal with norwegians? who would...
me
its far better than a tiktoker
shadow prawn
Jeg skulle ønske meg det for barna mine
clear ferry
umbral cliff
@clear ferry what do you use for adaptive lighting? (Like the changing colour temperature based on time of day)
shadow prawn
umbral cliff
Adaptive lighting
This thing? https://github.com/basnijholt/adaptive-lighting
clear ferry
Yes
shadow prawn
Up to now i have considered the adaptive lightning thing as a gimmick. Is this relly something that has an added value
clear ferry
Yes
I control all lights in my house, except bedroom
Every 3 minutes
It is really helpful for eye strain imo, and sleep patterns
Best regards someone with 20 years of sleep disorders
shadow prawn
I have defined different scenes for different times in the day
clear ferry
Also living north of the Arctic circle this would be even more helpful
shadow prawn
Maybe i will look into this, now coming from a solely hue system, which is pretty limited regarding the possible automations lol
finite atlas
oh yeah, people in the arctic circle let their light run all the time
the light pollution is horrible in cities there
shadow prawn
I am considering a travel to Norway this year
I have allready heard that they all have big windows and nonone has curtains
clear ferry
We love curtains
Only houses without curtains are polish / eastern Europe people who buy houses in Norway
Or pretentious design houses like this
glacial knot
so. much. glass.
glacial knot
is that not default in the civilized world?
shadow prawn
Three pane glass? No, it doesn’t pay off if the sun is up long enough
clear ferry
And drafts in roofs
shadow prawn
Here we mostly have three pane glass if its needed because of noise reasons
finite atlas
i havent seen any house without curtains when we traveled through sweden, finland and norway
shadow prawn
Okay i heard it from a podcaster from norway living in oslo
To let as much light in as possible, sounded logical
clear ferry
You can bet we have a lot of curtains in summer in the north
I used three blankets on every window
short knot
2gig sensor are not zwave right
umbral cliff
<@448110501696897025> will tell you all about Australian houses
I can too
Except the place im renting is double paned I think
And very nicely insulated
dusky plank
a dumb switch basically just hands vlan through, right?
glacial knot
jup
though I'm not entirely sure if it messes with the switching tables. Might broadcast it more than switching it
clear ferry
a dumb switch basically just hands vlan through, right?
No
It strips the VLAN header
If the uplink port of the switch is untagged vlans all ports of that switch will end up on said vlan upstream
Any tags will be discarded
late gate
Finally the front door doesnt look like camera heaven with 3 cameras
got mounted a 24v trafo so now I can stream locally
dusky plank
Any tags will be discarded
thats what I see, thanks. will buy a managed then 🙂
iron bolt
Hi all! any regex experts here?
This is my regex:
^binary_sensor.*(deur|pir)(?:(?!deurbel).)*$
It matches the following: (which is good)
binary_sensor.ol_deur*```
But it may not match: (The problem is that it does)
`binary_sensor.deurbel_motion_sensor`Maybe you wanted
^binary_sensor\..+(deur|pir)(?:(?!deurbel).)*$
Hmm that does the trick, just not understanding why
It can't match
binary_sensor.deurbel_motion_sensor_deurbel
either, which it does now
clever mortar
umbral cliff
So for a UPS, when it says 750w that means 750w in an hour is all it can support?
clever mortar
That's the max power it supports, which isn't really 750w
You need to look at the kVA rating, and take the power factor into account
umbral cliff
How would I best calculate that
Say it says 1200VA roughly how many hours would say 250W (at 240v) last for?
Very rough estimate of course
clever mortar
Assuming a PF of ~ 0.95 (probably better) you've got 1,140W to play with
Call it 4 minutes
umbral cliff
Oh wow
clever mortar
You were hoping for more?
umbral cliff
Yeah I guess I didn’t do the maths right
I guess if I cut the server off then it’ll just be firewall and poe switch and poe AP, so <50w. Buying a little bit of time lol
(Fibre box itself is already on a pre installed battery backup)
clear ferry
My 2200va lasts about 10 minutes
With core switches and my truenas box
My 1400va one last 12 minutes with a switch on it
Poe switch that is, with 8 or so Poe Devices plus 10 other ports in use
iron bolt
<https://www.debuggex.com/>
Thank you, i see it now, "if not followed by", but i need a regex where it doesn't matter in what position
"deur" is a match, but "deurbel" is not a match
last cedar
I guess if I cut the server off then it’ll just be firewall and poe switch and p...
My APC SMX1000i says 2 hours 50mins on 56W load
It will never do that long, but that is what it says. I guess maybe 2 hours
raw cedar
Any recommendation for cheap zigbee or zwave thermostats?
raw cedar
thank you 🙂
junior python
It would be great if the Automations menu had some sort of folders
proven spruce
For?
clever mortar
There's a feature request for that kind of thing, go add your vote
proven spruce
To make finding it more difficult?
junior python
To make it easier
proven spruce
Make what easier?
proven spruce
Use the search bar Luke
junior python
I think I'm more of a folders person
junior python
There's a feature request for that kind of thing, go add your vote
good idea
proven spruce
Cool
finite atlas
So for a UPS, when it says 750w that means 750w in an hour is all it can support...
if it said 750Wh, it would have that electrical capacity, but 750W means it can supply that amount of power for an unknown time
last cedar
^^^
To futher complicate things, there are both VA ratings and W ratings based on power factor
But rarely an issue
And also proper sine wave and simulated sine wave outputs
Best with proper sine wave
finite atlas
Baisc UPS's are also horrible for long-time use. They pretty much always use lead acid batteries and keep them overcharged the whole time, so they degrade over time.
Anything for a long time above 13.5v is basically a death sentence for lead acid batteries.
last cedar
I took those out of a battery backup unit for door entry system
finite atlas
sealed ones are even worse
last cedar
The 45s don't swell up too bad tbh
umbral agate
hey guys. no idea where to ask, so why not try here.
I'm looking for a battery backup / UPS hat or module of some sort for my pi 4b running home assistant. But specifically, I want something which can survive somewhat harsh conditions without deciding to go up in flames. So li ion or lipo is probably not gonna be the way to go. I was thinking maybe NiMH? All I need is like 5 minutes running off the battery, to be able to warn the user and shut down properly. Any ideas?
finite atlas
I took those out of a battery backup unit for door entry system
if you want to, you could replace them with LiFePo4 batteries, they last much much longer
clever mortar
hey guys. no idea where to ask, so why not try here.
I'm looking for a battery ...
#hardware-archived would be the obvious place to ask about ... well ... hardware
Your challenge will be if you're running HAOS
last cedar
if you want to, you could replace them with LiFePo4 batteries, they last much mu...
Customers system!
4x 45Ah
But... Are there direct replacements for ups batteries that are lifepo4?
That cope with the current draw I mean
I have 2x 45Ah in my alarm/ door entry system (don't ask!) and 4x7Ah in my UPS
finite atlas
Customers system!
so lead acid it is, alright :D
finite atlas
4x 45Ah
none that i know of, but i could find you one if you tell me what you search for
finite atlas
Standby, not deep cycle afaik
they are all the same +/- 10% difference in the life-span
last cedar
Those are not really that much of a concern at 45Ah yet
By the time I replace mine there might be some available.
Mine has 2x 45Ah, so 45Ah at 24V.
Current draw is small. Theoretically the PSU maxes out at 10A at 24V though
finite atlas
easy
last cedar
I will have to throw a clamp meter on it. But I would guess my system will be closer to 500mA at 24V
finite atlas
rule of thumb is: capacity = max current draw with lithium based batteries and LFP in general
last cedar
230V in
finite atlas
I will have to throw a clamp meter on it. But I would guess my system will be cl...
12w power draw? that little?
last cedar
Most door entry system stuff is 24V
last cedar
12w power draw? that little?
Detectors are 10 to 20mA at 12V each, 1 keypad is like 55mA at 24V.
finite atlas
ooooooooh
last cedar
I might be off with the 500mA
finite atlas
i'll ups our whole house soon
last cedar
All our lock stuff is 24V. Even the motorised ones
But every system is different
They have high draw for short times
Solenoid based locks use less power, and move less, of course
Our worst ones have 3
And it is an emormous mess
Lots have old shitty alarm and more modern door entry
When the door entry caan also do the alarm
Means double the administration, painful
The old alarm system uses modem for data transfer over distance
45 minutes to bring home the log from the alarm 🤣
Want to download the current prom programming? 45 to 75 minutes
finite atlas
ouch
last cedar
Yeah
finite atlas
but if you were to ever replace a ups battery for your home, i could help you out
i get them for pretty much next to nothing and they can be pretty usefull to replace other kinds of batteries
last cedar
18650?
last cedar
The purple ones look lovely!
last cedar
It is a great colour
finite atlas
they are even good ones, too bad i dont have more of them
clear ferry
https://open.spotify.com/track/1MGJNqN1rUBl7bcNgBaQcD?si=v1i5_oXgQSG6xKi7eWTavg&utm_source=copy-link
What
finite atlas
havent started to measure them yet, but the highest labled one is 2900mAh
those are mostly 10+ year old laptop batteries, so dont expect high tech stuff
finite atlas
well, at least i will have dirt cheap electricity soon and a ups for the whole house
clear ferry
You should see the battery rooms we have at some DC's
With diesel generators the size of two boats
clear ferry
finite atlas
i've paid 600€ for about 20-30kWh capacity, you could ask the guys who made the battery room, how much they paid for the batteries
clear ferry
They definitely paid more, but can also run a whole DC for 10 minutes until the generators kick in 
finite atlas
mine will be able to run the whole house for a day
dusky plank
cat5
forest edge
It's alive!
dusky plank
whats the highest amp?
tidal bronze
It's alive!
Alive without a matching whip ? How sad.
finite atlas
> whats the highest amp?
7
forest edge
Alive without a matching whip ? How sad.
matching whip? what do you think this is? Trump Tower?
tidal bronze
Tower I understand, what's a Trump?
static schooner
Don't we all wish...
frosty vapor
Greetings all i am trying to figure out my best options for HA without having a ton of different computers
I currently have tried a portainer docker (i think) on open media vault 5 and the os in a vm
The container seems limiting but the os takes up some resources any advice
frosty vapor
Not sure i can because that's what amv5 users but i am novice
green inlet
You can learn docker-compose in a couple hours, enough to spin up a container.
And literally spin up a container without any knowledge and come back later and read what you did. Although I wouldn’t suggest that, it can be done
Unless you want #330990055533576204, there will be a learning curve.
And even homeassistant_os needs a bit of reading.
frosty vapor
What about hardware i haven't found much on recommended memory or anything
green inlet
Decide what install you want first. Home assistant can run on a raspberry pi. Even better, a 5-10 year old laptop / desktop.
frosty vapor
I currently have a test install on an old desktop running open media vault but i have not done much in a while
Let me finish dinner haha and i can look into a few things and get back to you. Thanks for yor help btw
static schooner
That's no pizza rat!
vague estuary
is there an easy way to just run a simple program in a hassio addon container? do I need to form it as an addon? or can I just make basically a tiny VPS inside hassio for my own nefarious purposes
static schooner
it depends on whether it's a one-and-done or something that you expect to stay running
and what the "simple program" is
vague estuary
it's a discord bot to be exact
I don't really want to erase my Home Assistant instance for it
but it needs persistant storage
(an SQLite file)
and basically no resources
NodeJS
frosty vapor
ok sorry for the delay @green inlet the system I currently have it on is an old desktop with an AMD Phenom II x4 940 and has looks like 6GIGs of ram
subtle pasture
Wow, that's an oldie
I used to have that same CPU
That was actually my last AMD CPU. lol
I went Athlon XP > Athlon 64 > Athlon 64 X2 > Phenom II X4 > i5 2500k > i7 3770k > i7 5960x > i5 12600k
glacial knot
old people D:
scenic radish
glacial knot
also, why do you buy CPUs so often?
subtle pasture
I don't... that list spans 2001 to 2021
glacial knot
In that time, I've bought 1 😂
subtle pasture
Excuse me for upgrading 8 times in 20 years...
glacial knot
granted, that was in 2011ish
subtle pasture
Also, the 3770k and the 5960x were bought used on eBay well after their original release dates, for about $100 each. Cheap upgrade, that.
glacial knot
and the main reason I'm planing to upgrade is max RAM capacity o.0
I should look at ebay for cpus...
ebay does tend to have some interesting deals there
subtle pasture
What CPU socket you on?
forest edge
how the hell do I use alias in containers in portainer? I have read 4 diffrent things that state that containers name is the alias you use when you network containers but that isn't resolving. I know my containers are networked cause the ip works just fine but portainer keeps changing the ip of the containers anytime you restart and it's driving me nuts
forest edge
nm figured out the problem
forest edge
portainer auto sets that up, i just didn't know the default bridge dosen't use dns
clear ferry
Kurwa!
forest edge
thank god that was simple enough. was driving me nuts forgetting that portainer changes the ips every time and stuck sitting there wondering wtf for 20 mins before it dawns on me
clear ferry
Well, docker does that
Which is why you need to use hostnames for internal traffic
Or just use host networking
And don't care about it
glacial knot
I'm missing the distributed part 🤔
forest edge
ugh i hate that lg is cloud api
clear ferry
Lol cloud
shadow prawn
ugh i hate that lg is cloud api
Also in their tvs?
forest edge
I would imagine anything that is ThinQ is cloud
clear ferry
My LG TV isn't cloud, but I don't use the apps anymore anyway
umbral cliff
I would imagine anything that is ThinQ is cloud
Imagine actually connecting your TV to the internet
forest edge
My LG TV isn't cloud, but I don't use the apps anymore anyway
is it older? does it even say ThinQ on it?
clear ferry
I've never seen thinkq in Norway at all tbh
forest edge
@clear ferrydo you know of any issues with unbound dns when you set a static ip to a device and the device itself is set static to the same ip?
clear ferry
It's a 2017
Opnsense doesn't care if you have a static ip, unless you intercept rogue dns
forest edge
half my shit is still set with static ip's cause I been too lazy to change them and I set that shit in the router so I can just reference and keep things and I not had any issues till I started using unbound
it's almost like it causes pauses or something
but not always
clear ferry
Lol static IPs 🤢
forest edge
I can't do alias's. i always forget the names
forest edge
atxsucksballs/
clear ferry
If you can remember it
forest edge
I even named my docker machine by it's model and forgot what I named it lol
clear ferry
That is a great hostname
forest edge
just use to using ip's only gotta remember 1 number lol
clear ferry
I used to do bleach characters for my primary site and naruto characters for my secondary site
After merging they just both survived
forest edge
how could you keep straight what was what
clear ferry
Based on character skills
kakuzu was a esxi host logically
shino is a mosquitto server
forest edge
yea I can't do that, noway I could keep it straight
dusky plank
fits 👌
dusky plank
i wouldn‘t trust a pikachu.lan for my data, or a snorlax.lan
glacial knot
i wouldn‘t trust a pikachu.lan for my data, or a snorlax.lan
mario holds my data, and yoshi is my settop box
birdo does z2m 🙂
I need to find out whether there's software for linux yet that allows me to have the firewall have a different hostname on the internal nets to external. And rename it as well
forest edge
you probably call these devices by those names outloud too
honey can you reset yoshi!
clear ferry
We do yes
I even called my father and asked him to restart shikamaru once
He knew which one it was
glacial knot
do you have them labeled?
glacial knot
I've labeled the ports on my switches. Easier to do with single row desktop ones than your zoo of hardware
clear ferry
I do description on switch ports
clear ferry
umbral cliff
Just name your devices the name of the switch port
clear ferry
last cedar
I mean
clear ferry
Some freaks don't
last cedar
Remembering which one is Terrence and which is Bertil is annoying
clear ferry
If it is the CNC bot, call it Eeeeeeeeeeemiiiiiiiiil
last cedar
Haha
clear ferry
And if it controls your roof windows call it Karlsson!
clear ferry
And if it controls tunnelbanan, don't call it Göteborg
last cedar
Oooof
clear ferry
I'm currently watching an anime from 1968
The animations are really good tbh
ゲゲゲ軒ラロ
glacial knot
gegege
shadow prawn
NANI?
fallow karma
And if it controls your roof windows call it Karlsson!
Karlsson from the roof, somehow i know that
And Emil from Loneberg or something i know too
glacial knot
i've been around for a while atx
sterile adder
Is there any way to see what will be included in the next beta ?
wintry hazel
I missed half the references made; but I also made my internal domain something non-standard based on my initials, and named everything intrinsically so I reach everything off of console.<domain>, homeassistant (obviously), r1, ap1, ap2, and then mendicant-bias
glacial knot
Mario has a bunch of containers, and hostname routed nginx.
I set up cnames for all the names services
wintry hazel
I worked in IT at a company where all the older servers were named after rich people suburbs and it soured the whole creative naming of IT things for me.
One customer named all their stuff after moons of other celestial bodies, another used Sesame Street characters. A religious school used stuff I didn’t get the significance of.
When you’re jumping between naming conventions to do work for all of these people, you get sick of their cleverness
glacial knot
the chair I idled at had Azkaban. A server inside a prison
forest edge
I'm currently watching an anime from 1968
just released in your country?
welp just stuck an antenna on a v2
was omfg so much easier than the v3
wintry hazel
One would think 3 would improve on 2 lol
glacial knot
that's why engineering is fun. Every improvement of one metric is a detriment to another metric
umbral cliff
welp just stuck an antenna on a v2
A V2/3 what?
wintry hazel
I dunno, i like cat6 more than cat5
umbral cliff
The metric is cost
glacial knot
it often is
young sigil
I'm going to assume a V2 rocket until told otherwise.
glacial knot
I think they haven't been built in ages
wintry hazel
And I sure wish that by now someone had improved on cbus and grandfathered that junk
glacial knot
just use dbus then 😛
forest edge
A V2/3 what?
wyze cams
umbral cliff
Ah
young sigil
Boo
wintry hazel
I’m going to need like a jbus before I get my hopes up
young sigil
And I sure wish that by now someone had improved on cbus and grandfathered that ...
Ugh I remember dealing with cbus in 2010 it was horrible.
wintry hazel
Ugh I remember dealing with cbus in 2010 it was horrible.
Yeah funnily enough, still the same thing, and businesses who work with it aren’t very consumer friendly here.
I’m potentially going to get certified in it so work doesn’t have to go to some outside person involved on fault finding
Unfortunately it’s not easy if they didn’t get a proper asbuilt when it was put in
forest edge
wtf hong kong claims 11 hamsters were covid positive with delta so they are culling 2k hamsters because of it
wintry hazel
Wait what
forest edge
I watch this dude from time to time. https://youtu.be/v5Pa3abjxoA
orchid rose
Have you forgotten the Danish minks? 🙂
forest edge
Have you forgotten the Danish minks? 🙂
no that was so sad
wintry hazel
That feels like there’s more to that story, like using covid panic to get through the idea of culling hamsters they wanted to cull
wintry hazel
Someone really didn’t enjoy hamtaro
orchid rose
China is absolutely mad continuing with the zero covid strategy...
forest edge
I really think every animal needs to be taken out of china, they have done nothing but screw things up involving animals
wintry hazel
I didn’t realise other creatures could carry covid. I just thought it was a human issue
umbral cliff
China is absolutely mad continuing with the zero covid strategy...
There’s like 5-10 countries left doing that strategy. All of them are interesting (two I know of being NZ and China)
forest edge
I didn’t realise other creatures could carry covid. I just thought it was a huma...
really? they proved animals could catch it right off the bat lol
umbral cliff
I didn’t realise other creatures could carry covid. I just thought it was a huma...
Remember it was an animal based disease
umbral cliff
really? they proved animals could catch it right off the bat lol
Lol bat
orchid rose
Yeah and with Omicron all of them are struggling right now
umbral cliff
Badum tish
forest edge
some animals can even transfer it to humans
orchid rose
All kinds of pets have gotten it too. I remember dogs, cats, tigers etc
wintry hazel
Aside from us getting it from bats
umbral cliff
Yeah and with Omicron all of them are struggling right now
NZ & China are going okay just no travel really
forest edge
Lol bat
was thinking more of the tiger that was in the zoo that gave it to a trainer lol
umbral cliff
We’re not following Covid 0? Nor getting screwed
wintry hazel
Like we got asked to vaccinate, and told how to protect ourselves and other people. Nobody told me how to protect the puppies
umbral cliff
Well delays for parcels, delivery, and postage but that’s really all
umbral cliff
Like we got asked to vaccinate, and told how to protect ourselves and other peop...
Obviously it’s kill them
(Okay that hurt me to write)
orchid rose
Australia changed the strategy after the vaccines I suppose, but the cases did skyrocket with omicron
wintry hazel
Yeah, the deaths are starting a bit too
umbral cliff
Unless you’re WA, the most restrictions are can’t sing/ dance/ etc in clubs and density limits (and masks indoors)
orchid rose
There's another version of Omicron but it seems to be similar. "B2" iirc
umbral cliff
It’s pretty low restriction wise
forest edge
There's another version of Omicron but it seems to be similar. "B2" iirc
maybe that's the deltacron
orchid rose
maybe. Let me try to find the graph I saw
wintry hazel
Yeah I’m in western Sydney and my club is all good to visit but I gotta mask to move between spaces
umbral cliff
Honestly glad that we’re getting back to normal. Want to get on with life too
Triple vax now let me go function
Wfh can stay
wintry hazel
Yeah you can’t wfh in electrical maintenance
forest edge
lol back to normal
orchid rose
umbral cliff
https://twitter.com/JosetteSchoenma/status/1484190295453581314/photo/1
Wonder what that’s like in regards to hospitalisations & deaths
orchid rose
both going down iirc
umbral cliff
Huh that’s good
wintry hazel
I’m fine if we normalise people wearing masks without stigma though.
forest edge
deltacron originated on some island near italy, makes me wonder if that denmark one is yet another new variant
umbral cliff
I know here we’re mostly omicron cases but mostly delta in hospitals
young sigil
Unvaxed at that.
umbral cliff
Yep, The stats don’t lie about delta & unvaxed is very bad
orchid rose
I stand corrected, hospitalizations are up. However like 40% or something of those are secondary reasons. Deaths are slighly on the rise too
umbral cliff
I’m fine if we normalise people wearing masks without stigma though.
Agreed. Also wfh/ staying indoors when badly ill. So the flu and all that are reduced in spread
orchid rose
But Denmark is shutting down restrictions so it can't be that bad
umbral cliff
Unfortunately I don’t think there are statistics but I’m curious what hospitalisations in general are like here. I think I read in the UK hospitalisations for Covid are up, but total hospitalisations are stable from a minor increase over previous years
And yeah australia is weird with WA wanting to remain closed forever lol so they’re gonna suffer with covid when that gets in
orchid rose
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations is good for quickly checking some data between countries
has a lot of data points but not everything for every country
umbral cliff
Ah inequality….
forest edge
yea india is fucked
umbral cliff
yea india is fucked
India is doing better than a lot of countries though
orchid rose
It's not just inequality but many of those countries have high vaccine hesitancy
umbral cliff
Looks like 66% single dose for their population in India
forest edge
thats not good at all lol
umbral cliff
It's not _just_ inequality but many of those countries have high vaccine hesitan...
Yep. And no one wants to educate them
umbral cliff
thats not good at all lol
It’s a hell of a lot higher than 9%
orchid rose
mrna vaccines are a pain to distribute as well in poor conditions
umbral cliff
@forest edge remember that 66% of indias population is around 2.5x the entire population of the USA. It’s a decent effort given the inequality and hesitancy
umbral cliff
mrna vaccines are a pain to distribute as well in poor conditions
Also that not many countries are spending the money to help them buy the vaccines either
forest edge
<@104768700069990400> remember that 66% of indias population is around 2.5x the ...
the accuracy of the data coming out of india is pretty far from accurate so gotta keep that in mind
they flat out said that rural india is pretty much not even counted at all in anything, cases or anything
orchid rose
forest edge
11 doses lmao
umbral cliff
they flat out said that rural india is pretty much not even counted at all in an...
So the vaccine rate is still fine then, since if it’s not counted then it’s showing good stats. Population even if being an estimate is still a large number
umbral cliff
Wait till we all have 11 booster shots
forest edge
I mean yea.. india was pretty much looking like they were going to be wiped off the earth. there was massive aid from many countries to try and curb the spread
umbral cliff
And you know full well the aid would never have gone to those who actually needed it
It’s a corrupt country
Even more corrupt than the USA
forest edge
nah there was people there controlling that
thier goverment was too afraid to leave a building.. corruption wasn't possible lol
course i wouldn't go outside either if people were burning bodies in the ally's
clear ferry
I mean yea.. india was pretty much looking like they were going to be wiped off ...
You mean just like the us with the mass graves and freezer containers ?
forest edge
did they? only ever saw the images of them burning people outside thier homes
umbral cliff
They did
glacial knot
You mean just like the us with the mass graves and freezer containers ?
you live in a mass freezer
umbral cliff
Source: friends family who live there
clear ferry
you live in a mass freezer
forest edge
so few norwats noone would even notice if many keeled over
umbral cliff
Same with the USA, especially those old republican ones
forest edge
atx would be thankful he hasn't heard or seen his neighbors in years
clear ferry
Good thing Norway only has 0.02% fatality rate compared to 0.3% of the us then
forest edge
could be worse, could be like china where they sent hazmat crews to drag you out of your home if you were suspected covid positive to never be seen again lol
forest edge
Good thing Norway only has 0.02% fatality rate compared to 0.3% of the us then
so you guys learned to outrun the wolves.. go you
clear ferry
Swedes aren't much better with 0.15%
strange crag
Good thing Norway only has 0.02% fatality rate compared to 0.3% of the us then
Australia looks like 0.0014%
unless i screwed the maths
umbral cliff
Australia looks like 0.0014%
Hey we come first in something good for once lol
Also lol
strange crag
what is china's?
umbral cliff
0 of course
glacial knot
Nah, that’s NK
orchid rose
The excess deaths graph is a nice comparison between countries as well. Australia is actually on the negative, while countries like Russia seem to have people dying for unknown reasons 🤔
forest edge
'Russia seem to have people dying for unknown reasons ' what else is new? i mean it's been like that since forever
umbral cliff
The excess deaths graph is a nice comparison between countries as well. Australi...
Can’t record KGB deaths there 
clear ferry
umbral cliff
Hi atx
orchid rose
Australians have been saved by not going out at all. Which isn't surprising since everything there has evolved to kill you
forest edge
feel bad for atx having to go out in public with those glasses
orchid rose
Covid is the least of their concerns 😛
glacial knot
can't be as bad as emus
clear ferry
Emusanuspenis
Denmark appears to be opening up now
Guessing Norway will follow suit soon
umbral cliff
Honestly these are the worst in australia
They’re friendly but too large
Also manage to move at the speed of light
strange crag
looks like a huntsman
umbral cliff
Yep huntsmen
young sigil
Fuzzy friends!
umbral cliff
Fuzzy friends!
They’re your only friends in tassie? 😛
strange crag
they are fine, although their speed can give you a fright
young sigil
They're reasonably harmless. I just pick them up and throw them outside.
umbral cliff
Depending on my mood I either trap them, or I vacuum them
young sigil
At least you don't squeal and stand on a chair.
strange crag
i just take em outside and far away - cos they can find their way back otherwise
umbral cliff
At least you don't squeal and stand on a chair.
Oh yeah I’m not that bad. They give me the creeps not scare the shit out of me
young sigil
Ha. Yeah. I reckon I threw the same one out a few times.
umbral cliff
I’ve fed a huntsman to a magpie before
strange crag
I did too - till I took him about 100 metres away - didnt come back afgter that
young sigil
The circle of life. Now the magpie eats you.
umbral cliff
Wouldn’t surprise me
young sigil
Wait till spring.
strange crag
they dont eat you but they sure hurt when they dive bomb you!
umbral cliff
By feeding the maggies they don’t swoop you
strange crag
yes, but you cant always do that or rely on it either
umbral cliff
True
strange crag
If youi are riding a bike in Australia and its magpie season you gotta stick spikes all over your helmet to stop them attacking you
or paint eyes on the back of the helmet too
umbral cliff
It was funny watching everyone ride through uni and get swooped
strange crag
its funny till someone gets hurt - even less if the buggers get you while watching the others!
umbral cliff
At campus it was the ducks which were worse
glacial knot
you had ducks on your campus? o.0
well, so did we. Just never noticed them outside the pond now that I thinka bout it
umbral cliff
Ducks, couple swans, rabbits, kangaroos right nearby, and apparently a platypus too
Never saw the last one
clear ferry
I remember campus, i was there at least 3 times during my one year at college
My wife was 5 times on campus for her 5 year masters
Just for exams
And that was just in the three first years
glacial knot
we did exams distributed over multiple locations. Not even centralized to the campus
clear ferry
Last two years were all Home exams
glacial knot
I wonder how that could have happened atx
clear ferry
We did direct streamed classes in 2004 at my college, but I think we were one of the first five
clear ferry
I only bothered one year, and i knew a lot of them already, and met more hosting big LAN parties in the area
strange crag
we had thousands of sulphur crested cockatoo's flying over the wagga campus at 6am in the morning. No sleeping thru that!
umbral cliff
Oh true we had those buggers too
One of my friends lived in a res hall right below a giant tree of them where they nested
He got no sleep ins
glacial knot
just get good at sleeping
clear ferry
I can sleep through anything
Sleeping in cars, no issues, sleeping while visiting people, no issues, sleeping in datacenters, no issues, sleeping with two kids, no issues
strange crag
challenge - set your wake up noise to 1000 cockatoos. all screeching !
strange crag
harsher than engine noise!!