the-water-cooler

[clear ferry]

I just have fun at work, sitting at home

With no risk

[pale shadow]

So not much reward

Eitherway

I'm happy with my salary

I'd like double but yaknow

I'm 21

Not a grad. Low skill set

Suits are nice

[glacial knot]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[orchid rose]

Those shoes are horrendous

wingtips are neat, but just not those

That said, wear what you like and don't get stuck on other people's opinions

[bitter pawn]

those shoes. only some people can pull it off

[inner vault]

those shoes are definitely my jam haha

[bitter pawn]

i mean its unique-ish

[inner vault]

I mean, these are the last pair of shoes I bought, I am 100% that guy.

I'm also 6'2" with tattoos, a nose ring, a big beard and a shaved head. I am a caricature.

[orchid rose]

I like those better since they are a bit more casual. The first ones blend the line between formal and casual a bit too much for me. But yeah each to their own and what works for them. I hate tats and nose rings too and can't even grow a beard

[clear ferry]

I should get back into the tattoo studio soon

[bitter pawn]

you ever worry that some jackhole is going to fug around and pull on your nose ring?

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/bored-bull-gif-14855749

[bitter pawn]

thats why i dont do piercings. some fugtard would fug around, and then i have to kick someone's ass. and im lazy. i dont wanna have to.

[clear ferry]

Did you say prince Albert

[bitter pawn]

oh hell naw. mini-me definitely gets no piercings.

[clear ferry]

[cerulean ferry]

Anyone here know what happened to PoWifi? Seems like there would be lots of uses for home automation projects and managing small powered devices but it seems to have gone the way of the dodo… https://news.cs.washington.edu/2015/06/04/uws-powifi-could-power-the-internet-of-things-says-mit-technology-review/

[clear ferry]

Power over wifi

I haven't even heard of it, and I've worked with networking and Poe for 20 years

[clever mortar]

I remember reading about it and similar ideas many times over the last decade, it's been pretty consistently vapourware

I suspect the "minor" issues of power loss, efficiency, and safety concerns have got in the way

[clear ferry]

On days like this I usually use 110kwh per day @last cedar today I'll finish well below that but still

That would be €36 for power alone today

[orchid rose]

Sounds like something Tesla invented but evil corps buried

[last cedar]

My monthly usage was only 455 last month

Thanks to the pellets

Hoping to heat a little with computers once new windows are in :)

[pale shadow]

Powifi sounds like some nfc thing

[silk skiff]

Tired: Patching the dry-wall in my basement
Wired: Stupid home automation projects

^ "Hey google, turn on my christmas lights at sunset"

[finite atlas]

how do you manage to use so much electricity?

[low harness]

It's the raspberry pi cluster.

[finite atlas]

the realsitic limit is in the range of mW
you could also do it fairly easy your self without needing a transmitter, just leech power of existing radio bands

[orchid rose]

We don't question what atx uses electricity around here

Rumor says it's some sort of a life force thing but no one is sure and no man dares to ask

[clear ferry]

I still use 30% less than the average household my size

[wet pilot]

+30?

[finite atlas]

but for what?

[clear ferry]

Heating, water, cooking, servers, lights

[finite atlas]

probably more in that order

servers, heating, cooking, water, lights

[clear ferry]

I only have four full-time servers

And 4 switches

The rest are powered as needed

[finite atlas]

i have a raspberry pi b3 as my home assistant server, thats currently not plugged in

[clear ferry]

I have a dell r510 + a mini itx server, plus a hpe Edgeline 300 + a rpi 3 + 2x hp 5900af + 2x hp 2530

Running always

[finite atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/the-big-lebowski-what-the-hell-what-the-fuck-huh-what-gif-16553984

we use about 14 kWh a day, that includes my 2 grandparents and me in a 3 story house

[clear ferry]

I have a dozen other switches, a blade enclosure, a couple of itanium boxes plus a dl380 gen8 and dl380gen9 and a few other boxes in standby

[hollow glacier]

Not plugged in?

[finite atlas]

not plugged in into power

[hollow glacier]

You no like smart home?

No likey?

[finite atlas]

i'm a dumb person, so my house can be dumb aswell

[hollow glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/gone-git-gone-get-go-and-get-it-gif-9184070

[finite atlas]

i only have it, to lure my vacuum cleaner out of its hidden corner

i only need the pi for like 15 min every 2 weeks

[hollow glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/anger-management-michael-arden-just-sad-gif-13834857

[gray root]

yikes

my tp-link ks125's have a serious ntp bug

around 2000 pps, per device

[craggy drum]

Where do I get support for Ledenet cloud being down?

[clear ferry]

I'd suggest not buying cloud products

[gray root]

they seem to have some incompatibility with the ntp server, so they immediately issue another time sync request

[craggy drum]

My phone is connected to the wifi, my Alexa's are connected, and my Sylvania lights are also connected.

[forest edge]

not really keen with the new dashboard.

I understand combing supervisor and config together but putting stuff like 3 parent categories up seems too compressed and more complex

not to mention unless you have updates the new config tab looks kind of bare

[clever mortar]

Nobody here can/will help with some random cloud service being on fire again

[clear ferry]

[hollow glacier]

I’ll help but it’s gonna involve fire

[clear ferry]

[pale shadow]

you kno the r510 is notorious for power sucking

https://giphy.com/gifs/portlandia-season-6-episode-10-3o6nV3avPsONP31nQ4

Accurate image of r510

[clear ferry]

It's 250w power draw is nothing compared to my 10000w draw when I'm cooking

[pale shadow]

is the r510 a dual psu or a single

[clear ferry]

Dual, with x5660s, 128GB ram and 14 drives plus 10g add-on card

[pale shadow]

this sounds excessive

What do you host on it

[clear ferry]

My storage, 20 odd containers, two VMs plus all my cloud synchronisation from multiple sources

[pale shadow]

are you doing multi-raid?

[gray root]

there's a reason the datacenter threw it out

[clear ferry]

I'm doing ZFS

[pale shadow]

AHHHH

HISS

Software raid is my worst enemy

Wait

[clear ferry]

I don't mind, I work on multi petabyte software raid systems

[pale shadow]

Does the mobo support 14 drives from the backplane?

or is it a split backplane

[clear ferry]

The backplane supports 14 drives yes

12 front facing 2 internal

[clear ferry]

You should see my RX6600

[pale shadow]

Show me

[clear ferry]

Or the EVA5000 I threw out

[pale shadow]

I want a home data centre

[clear ferry]

Or the RX8640 I rejected

[pale shadow]

Answer me this

[pale shadow]

Management and User on same switch?

[clear ferry]

For this setup, yes

[pale shadow]

HISSSSS

[forest edge]

look at that museum

[clear ferry]

Don't worry, I have more years of network experience than you have years of speech

[pale shadow]

Final question

[strange vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/get-off-my-lawn-old-lady-sprinkler-grumpy-angry-gif-19033636

[clear ferry]

[pale shadow]

VLANs for Mgmt and User or two separate switches with vlans

[forest edge]

@clear ferrybetter take better care of those dvd r's.. wouldn't want ya losing data...

[clear ferry]

For home use, vlans, for proper environments, physically separate OOBM

[pale shadow]

i like u

[hollow glacier]

a lot of what you learned over the years is also completely useless knowledge now lol

you're old right?

shit from the 90s doesnt really help you much these days

[clear ferry]

Thank goodness I learn new products every two months then

[hollow glacier]

word

[clear ferry]

I'm even NSX certified now

[hollow glacier]

i dont want to google that time is short

too many acronyms now

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/networking-i-am-networking-socializing-on-the-phone-gif-12765090

Ewwww is that a Cisco Linksys abomination @pale shadow ?

Disgusting

[strange vapor]

Really??? When it comes down to it, lot of new stuff is friendly abstractions over old tech. See K8S as the prime example these days. It's hilarious watching K8S experts watch in awe when the old school folk can get down and dirty a few levels down when the abstraction inevitably breaks!

[pale shadow]

Its catalyst smh

[clear ferry]

Black catalyst?

Gonna need a model number

[pale shadow]

one sec

[hollow glacier]

i meant knowing the tricks of hardware and CLI shit from old systems isnt really that relevant. no argument against knowing underlying concepts is a good thing

[clear ferry]

You say that, but when that 25 year old system breaks at the bank, they are very glad I'm a savant

[forest edge]

these conversations make me convinced that most of the gear you people use was found in a dumpster

[hollow glacier]

savant? you misspelled masochist

[clear ferry]

Psssh, I like it

[pale shadow]

I have since discovered my home ones are not catalyst, those are the work ones

[hollow glacier]

hence masochist

[clear ferry]

Told you 🤢

[pale shadow]

But its not linksys!

[clear ferry]

They are from the merge

[pale shadow]

grumble grumble

[strange vapor]

A friend of Uncle has tried numerous times to quit a job maintaining a Fortran app in a fairly large finance house, and they keep getting her back. Old school knowledge tends to get more valuable!

[pale shadow]

I was going to buy a bunch of these at one point

[clear ferry]

Thankfully I've only had to touch three of those switches in my life, they all got replaced

[pale shadow]

but catalyst looks ugly;

[clear ferry]

They pull out a few pensioners here to fix zseries mainframes once in a while

[hollow glacier]

https://giphy.com/gifs/no-u-reverse-card-uno-VF5ZXlzQ8VcMpgJr1G

[pale shadow]

fite me

[strange vapor]

I maintained racks full of those once. Still break out in a cold sweat if RSTP is mentioned!

[pale shadow]

Why not do RVSTP

[clear ferry]

They behave properly though, unlike ACI that is a fucking bile infested pissbucket

[hollow glacier]

https://giphy.com/gifs/foxhomeent-napoleon-dynamite-20th-century-fox-JqEB4KkitGwhPRtC7G

[pale shadow]

Wait

I mean RPVST

[clear ferry]

Nexus is probably the creme of Cisco, after 2 years of firmware that is

[strange vapor]

RSTP was the state of the art at the time.

[clear ferry]

Mstp or gtfo

[pale shadow]

Just for that

Im configuring everything rapid

[clear ferry]

Disgusting, just do catalyst vlan propegation while you are at it then

You freak

[pale shadow]

You love me really

I'll also use GLBP on multilayer switches instead of HSRP

[clear ferry]

And do all port channels as ON

🤢

[pale shadow]

i do this at home anyways

[clear ferry]

[strange vapor]

I remember when a friend working at a competitor had their network go boom. A customer wanted two connection to two switches, which was provided....

The customer then put in a 3Com switch connected to both which dropped BDPU packets. Cue a massive meltdown

[clear ferry]

Bpdu filtering

[pale shadow]

Lets just loop everything

why not

[hollow glacier]

@clear ferry did you go to a greybeard conference and invite them all to this server?

[clear ferry]

Yes

[hollow glacier]

https://giphy.com/gifs/theoffice-yL558PFPKeCtFxkiUi

[pale shadow]

I want unifi switches

I WANT TO SCAN THEM

[hollow glacier]

i hear they're highering a lead cloud dev

https://giphy.com/gifs/laughing-giggles-hehee-ud1XSljsl4DqE

[pale shadow]

how do they higher a cloud

a cloud is the sky

[hollow glacier]

i was too excited when typing that out

cuz it was a good one

[strange vapor]

Why? You're guaranteed they're going to break in silly ways. I use Unifi for wireless,but movedto Mikrotek for switches for my own sanity.

[pale shadow]

I like the AR

beep boop

the little things please me

[hollow glacier]

i like unifi for home use

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/disgusting-disgusteng-disgust-gif-5456694

[hollow glacier]

if i was deploying for businesses then prob a bad idea tho

[strange vapor]

If they put as much effort into making the basics reliable as they did for AR, they'd be epic switches!!

[hollow glacier]

unless it's like a coffee shop

[pale shadow]

We use unifi for wifi at work

fite me

[hollow glacier]

atx only talks in thousands of dollars for equipment

unless it's his own

[static schooner]

atx's version of fighting is projectile vomit

[hollow glacier]

https://giphy.com/gifs/justin-wth-what-the-hell-is-even-that-3HxxgzWNNlHeuOPtZN

[pale shadow]

:O

HOW DARE YOU

WUMPUS IS LIFE

[strange vapor]

I had a Unifi setup go bang today when I updated the PSK... Had to remove the network and recreate.

[hollow glacier]

https://giphy.com/gifs/mrw-sidebar-6JB4v4xPTAQFi

[clear ferry]

Psk 🤢

[strange vapor]

The backup done before the change didn't work.

[clear ferry]

802.1x or gtfo

[pale shadow]

unifi controller on linux with veeam replication

just sayin

[hollow glacier]

unifi controller hosted on a pi hidden in the toilet of starbucks using free wifi just sayin

[strange vapor]

Well, my brother started calling me Ralph as I broke the internet.

[pale shadow]

lmfao

[pale shadow]

boooo

[clear ferry]

https://c.tenor.com/se5Oqg5OOBQAAAAM/ralph-wiggum-the-simpsons.gif

[strange vapor]

He shoulder surfed me while we verified the PSK, and the APs weren't accepting connections. Removing the SSID and readding worked.

[clear ferry]

Sounds like regular unifi code quality

[pale shadow]

i would've pointed them to a new controller

[hollow glacier]

funny enough, UI and their UI bugs are pretty common

[clear ferry]

Surprised you didn't brick them

[strange vapor]

Yup, their QA is crap :(

[hollow glacier]

my unifi doorbell took a shit and they warrantied but wanted me to send the old one first

a few emails back and fourth and it still took almost 2 weeks to get a new one

[pale shadow]

That tends to be how its done

[strange vapor]

When they're setup and working, they are reliable.

Scared shitless doing upgrades though! Something always breaks.

[hollow glacier]

i love my 100% unifi home network but i also dont do a bunch of complicated shit

i have an IoT vlan and ssid and that's about it

[pale shadow]

Network isolation

dew it

[hollow glacier]

i refused to buy their rackmount PoE+ tax

so i 3d printed an adapter to make a non rackmount fit lol

[pale shadow]

I'd like to see a rackmount for the poe injectors

[pale shadow]

publicly available

[hollow glacier]

kinda fucky

[pale shadow]

oh u got aswitch

[hollow glacier]

saved like $500 tho

or something

[pale shadow]

bruh

but u bought a toolless rack

[hollow glacier]

lmao right

i figured yolo i can resell it if i dont want it

[pale shadow]

now that ive seen it

im happy i didnt get one

[hollow glacier]

it's just a baby rack

[pale shadow]

it doesnt look right

[forest edge]

should have got a wall mounted one

[pale shadow]

Or a whole ass cab

[hollow glacier]

shoulda coulda woulda

i wanted the shiny unifi silver

[forest edge]

those short ones on wheels make me think of ottoman's

[pale shadow]

spray paint

[strange vapor]

I still have the little 8 port 60w Unifi switch here at my parents place. Will be replaced with a Mikrotik when the one I want is back in stock :/

[forest edge]

so 2024

[pale shadow]

just give em a draytek router

[strange vapor]

Probably :(

[hollow glacier]

https://giphy.com/gifs/80s-movie-purple-people-eater-ned-beatty-816QOYrqg1MME

[pale shadow]

accurate

[hollow glacier]

i bought one of their new beta unifi dream router's for my mom

[pale shadow]

blegh

[hollow glacier]

the wifi2/5/6 with 2x PoE out

shit works well for fuckin $79

[pale shadow]

isnt it poe pass through

not poe out

[hollow glacier]

you are thinking of a different product

[pale shadow]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I want a pfsense box

i have an edgerouter 6p and it fried my sip phone

[hollow glacier]

$79 is a steal for all that

[pale shadow]

it looks kinda weird

[hollow glacier]

you look kinda weird

[pale shadow]

i thought the dream router was rackmount

[pale shadow]

facts

[hollow glacier]

you dont know their product line then

[pale shadow]

or is it dream machine im thinking of

[hollow glacier]

they make a UDM which looks just like above but is worse and costs $300

then they make a UDMP which is a rackmount and includes an NVR with 1hdd slot

[pale shadow]

again i prefer pfsense stuff

[hollow glacier]

that's the device in my rack above

then UDR is the $79 deal

idk why they priced it so low when it's better than their $300 UDM

very weird

then buy a netgate device or build one

[pale shadow]

because its ugly

[hollow glacier]

u dumb

[pale shadow]

more expensive than an edgerouter

i tried to convince work to give me one

and they were like

maybe

but ask in 6 month

Can we all agree Sonicwall is shit tho

[hollow glacier]

i thought they were pretty popular with sadmins

[strange vapor]

Are Sonicwall still a thing? Haven't seen then mentioned in years!

[pale shadow]

We got a customer thats stuck in a 5 year support contract

with 1 final year left

then we're giving them a pfsense box

[strange vapor]

Still haven't bothered with PFSense. Generally use Debian hosts as my gateways as I know how to make them a blackhole.

[forest edge]

been contemplating about using zigbee stuff at my mothers place for a more ease of use but holy hell as I dive down the rabbit hole of which coordinator to use with which software to communicate with HA it seems daunting and confusing lol

[static schooner]

I think that’s why folks like zwave

More expensive, but guaranteed to be local and minimal screwing around with brands/incompatibilities

[hollow glacier]

not to mention zigbee pro and 2.4ghz fight with each other..

i am very happy with the zooz stuff i've gotten so far

[forest edge]

zwave is just too pricey. wifi is same or slightly above in price over zigbee

[hollow glacier]

frankly for a parents setup something stupid simple like hue isnt a bad idea if they just need lights + motion

i got my mom a hue hub and she managed to get it working with siri and she's basically helpless

lol

[forest edge]

I want to connect a bunch of door sensors

[pale shadow]

Oh?

[hollow glacier]

to tell when door is open/closed?

the reed ones or recessed

[forest edge]

yea

too many for wired

[hollow glacier]

too many doors?

does she live in a scooby doo episode?

https://giphy.com/gifs/southparkgifs-3o6Ztqosg19BgIVpAI

[forest edge]

granparents old house, has seperate garages and workshop

[hollow glacier]

lmao that gif

https://www.amazon.com/Recessed-Invisible-Security-SmartStart-Required/dp/B082PT71MM/ i was thinking about these

for access doors

maybe not that exact one.. i want it to do tilt too

[forest edge]

i don't need recess but 35 for one is outrageous

[hollow glacier]

ur outrageous

[forest edge]

can get a 4pack of zigbee for less than that

[pale shadow]

Yeah but

daunting and confusing

[forest edge]

true dat

[static schooner]

DIY is always cheaper if you undervalue your time both before installation and followup support

[forest edge]

just watched a video on the newest sonoff zigbee 3.0 dongle that is listed as comfirmed that works with zha and zigbee2mqtt yet the review said it was a turd and wouldn't connect to most zigbee stuff lol

[pale shadow]

Im just here thinking if i want to spend £100 on a lightswitch

[forest edge]

is zigbee still considered DIY?

[static schooner]

No, but it seems that way

[forest edge]

true dat

[static schooner]

I got a device or two, controller, serial adapter, etc and decided it was too much work

[forest edge]

they need to hurry up and release the wifi meshing alternative

[pale shadow]

ew mesh

[forest edge]

if you want mesh your stuck between zigbee and zwave, one too iffy and the other too expensive.. it's bs

[pale shadow]

You have to remember smart home is still relatively stuck between where it needs to be

[forest edge]

don't confuse smart home with your stinky finger

[pale shadow]

🤔

what

[hollow glacier]

you what

the only limit with smart home is time and money

you can pretty much do anything you want...

[pale shadow]

thats not what i meant

Its not standardised yet

[hollow glacier]

which is why hass is thriving

doesnt need to be for us nerds..

[pale shadow]

Which is why you get iffy technology and expensive technology

[forest edge]

not everything smart home is one or the other

just this particular thing really

what the hell is this

https://youtu.be/Jqj9nathjkk

[pale shadow]

futuuuuure

[static schooner]

I was going to say "well, you can render anything", but then she got in

[forest edge]

can already picture it laying on it's side on the side of the road

[static schooner]

steering wheel accidentally broke off

[forest edge]

I am kind of surprised it took this long to start making battery powered UTV like Polaris etc

electric golf carts been around for years so it's not like they couldn't have made some prior to lithium lol

[umbral cliff]

I found out the other day our smart electrical meter is zigbee compatible. Just barely anything is zigbee power compatible

[hollow glacier]

which one and what state are you in?

maybe mine uses the same

[static schooner]

I think many are via the energy profile

[umbral cliff]

In Vic. I can’t remember the model name off the top of my head. All I know is the name is [name] 501

[umbral cliff]

Wish that could be easily integrated

[static schooner]

My Rainforest Eagle connects to it over Zigbee, and it has an integration

[umbral cliff]

I looked into that. Looks to be out of stock on their website for the last 6 months

[glacial knot]

does z2mqtt not support them?

[static schooner]

I'm still rocking the Eagle-100, which offers local support. The Eagle-200 switched to cloud-only

[glacial knot]

Cloud only 🤢

[static schooner]

there's a nice container solution that parses the data and makes it available via MQTT

yeah, looks like the -200 is out of stock. sigh

[forest edge]

so glad i don't have to water my lawn lol

[glacial knot]

anyways, do you ever look at your network segmentation and ip allocations and wonder if you should just re-do them for better subnets?

[pale shadow]

Can someone tell me why the philips hue bridge is not poe

[wet forge]

has anyone here ever installed soffit lighting? 😛

[wet forge]

I would guess their average client base doesn't understand PoE and it's not worth the manufacturing cost.

[umbral cliff]

^^

[pale shadow]

grumble grumble

[wet forge]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-duck-ducktales-ducktales2017-house-of-the-lucky-gander-grumpy-gif-21467702

[pale shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-annoyed-grumpy-kitty-mad-gif-17314640

[umbral cliff]

Is it worth hunting for the 100 used?

[umbral cliff]

Could see if there’s something that converts poe to whatever the hue wants

[static schooner]

I got mine years ago, no idea if there's a used market

[pale shadow]

oh there is

ive looked

but it should be native

[static schooner]

the -200 surely isn't an upgrade

[glacial knot]

Just get https://www.amazon.com/why-is-this-so-long/dp/B0964R1KFW/

[pale shadow]

i kno but it should be native

[umbral cliff]

The $5 extra cost to be used by <1% of customers is pointless to them

[pale shadow]

i think its like 2 jumper wires

[umbral cliff]

Until Poe starts being a consumer level thing and not just a prosumer level then it wouldn’t happen

[pale shadow]

i am now opening my hue bridge

[glacial knot]

it's a bit more than that to do it without being a hazard

[pale shadow]

please hold

ahhh torx screw

[umbral cliff]

Should have that bit. It’s not uncommon for anything nowadays

[pale shadow]

its one of those in the garden shed bits

[umbral cliff]

Especially something that shouldn’t be opened by an average consumer

[pale shadow]

but its reaching 2am and i dont want to go outside

[umbral cliff]

(Plus torx just doesn’t strip like Phillips)

[pale shadow]

i still like my flatheads

[wet forge]

Bubbling up old question -- anyone have experience with soffit lighting? I'm curious if anyone has ever seen adjustable rgb lights for gable ends.

[pale shadow]

Does HA support multiple network interfaces

[glacial knot]

gable ends?

[glacial knot]

That's off topic on #the-water-cooler 🙂 but yes

I think? Now I'm not sure anymore o.0 worst case slap nginx in front /shrug

[pale shadow]

Just trying to direct connect huebridge to it

[scenic radish]

There's a handshake involved with PoE. It's more than just "2 jumper wires"

[pale shadow]

too late

https://tenor.com/view/madagscar-penguins-kaboom-gif-9833865

shit

i forgot my ssh password for edgerouter

oh nvm

[static schooner]

I believe that "Passive" 24v PoE, like Unifi uses, is really just power that's on all the time. 802.3af/at involves a handshake

[pale shadow]

ngl didnt look into the standards for it

just looked at some rano circuits on google images

[scenic radish]

Yes, good point: I was talking within the context of 802.3xx

[static schooner]

Unifi was in the process of transitioning everything to 48v 802.3af/at, so there may not be passive 24v-only devices anymore

[wet forge]

triangle ends

[clear ferry]

Passive Poe

🤢

[umbral cliff]

Is there anything you don’t 🤢

[clear ferry]

You?

[brisk glen]

Passive Poe was a massive mistake

[clear ferry]

Unifi in general is a massive mistake

[glacial knot]

atx likes HP servers. And raspberry pies. They have the same quality 😉

[forest edge]

don't diss rpi's like that.. far superior over HP

[brisk glen]

Ehh, HP has worse quality

That or we get the low bin stuff

[glacial knot]

Can’t diss HP too much, we are partnered with them

HPE though 😉

[last cedar]

@clear ferry seems there is an XC40 recharge option from work (but believe it is only for the people who work in the office)

420km on a charge though 🦝

The V60 T6 was a flat out no for me, because I didn't work in thr office, and wouldn't gain me any electric range over the octavia either

I don't get why we have different vehicles either.... But y'kno. Office politics

[brisk glen]

Their quality control is shit…. One of our batches of thin clients….

[forest edge]

just wait till they upgrade you to this #the-water-cooler message

[glacial knot]

I hope you used their new OS option 😉

[brisk glen]

Let’s just say that we had to open them all and do something stupid

[forest edge]

Big comp manu's go through phases every decade or so. they will have a short stretch of producing well then go back to being shit, and they alternate between one another.. a whole conspiracy working together to sell more garbage than non

[brisk glen]

Because most failed to boot

[glacial knot]

one of the option modules on t640/t540?

[clear ferry]

Don't confuse hp for hpe

[forest edge]

yea there is a thin bed sheet seperating the two.. duh!

[clear ferry]

Xc40 is interesting, but way to small, great couple car though

[glacial knot]

it's fun with 400HP electric

[brisk glen]

There may or may not have been a chip we had to push down to push it into place

That fixed the dead clients

[clear ferry]

Eh, the Tesla is fun to drive for 10 minutes, then you realise the car is shit to drive, I'll take my 407bhp hybrid

[glacial knot]

😂 I assume it's the option modules. They are finicky. Took us a day to find out that they don't connect properly when we try to plug them in without screwing them down. Because they appear socketed when they aren't =.=

[forest edge]

ugh i really hope i didn't make a mistake going down the zigbee path

[clear ferry]

Seriously, Tesla is like driving in a bread box, with wheels

[brisk glen]

Ah fuck it you can FOA the email with the info and NDA

[forest edge]

wut? wtf tesla you been in that is like that? lol

[glacial knot]

we had the XC40 with 400HP. It's still Volvo quality. Not Tesla

[brisk glen]

Yah it was a stupid chip you just pushed down with your thumb and all was good to go for the life of the unit

[clear ferry]

I've driven 2x model s and one model X, based on that the model 3 must be horrible

[forest edge]

the 3 is the only one worth getting

[brisk glen]

Everyone had a f you HP face that day

[glacial knot]

t640 powered and fully connected over the USB-C is fun though

[clear ferry]

It will probably be good yes, haven't tried it, only v90, XC60 and xc90

[forest edge]

er not the 3. the model S

[clear ferry]

Model s is shite

Build quality is horrible, the seats are like bricks and the suspension is very American

[glacial knot]

my dad just goes up to our usual dealer and asks him to borrow cars. Though he tries not to drive the ones he wouldn't want to afford too much^^

[clear ferry]

I'm looking forward to the xc100

[glacial knot]

oh, they are making one even larger than the 90?

[clear ferry]

Apparently

[forest edge]

S is not shit, although I don't like the new steering wheel in the plaid

[glacial knot]

might as well buy an american brand at that point

[forest edge]

suspension is very american? wtf does that mean lol

[clear ferry]

Did I not tell you about the American car review I was reading, where one car won because it has 19 cup holders instead on 18

Muuuuurica

[forest edge]

tabloids ftw

[glacial knot]

sounds about right

[clear ferry]

Narrator : it was shitty

[forest edge]

dunno our roads are generally smooth.. never been in one off road

[glacial knot]

feels like being on a boat, but still not comfortable

yea, if you only go straight for hundreds of kilometers, it doesn't matter /shrug

[clear ferry]

[glacial knot]

it's not about road quality and even out bumps. It's about how it feels on curved roads

[forest edge]

it's not suppose to be a Cadillac. don't buy a sports car for the smoothness

[forest edge]

I kind of want to get one these https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/42UcecHgE4KMTgSjG_9glsZIQrU=/0x0:1186x778/1200x800/filters:focal(499x295:687x483)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/67041211/Screen_Shot_2020_07_10_at_8.29.13_AM.0.png

[glacial knot]

You should drive a car with active suspension once 😂

[forest edge]

been driving full size trucks for long enough lol

lol don't need a vehicle to make me feel i'm not driving as fast or taking a turn as hard as I am

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/ck8car-driving-truck-gif-8597792

Looks about right

[forest edge]

plus i got a motorcycle.. wtf would active suspension do that would be any better than leaning? lol

[forest edge]

kind of what I pictured all your roads being like to complain about the suspension on a tesla lol

[umbral cliff]

Yeah build quality is a huge issue. Seen so many photos/ videos of panels just not matching

Tbh Tesla makes me think it’s the apple of cars. Wants to be super exclusive, make everything secretive, pay extra for anything, lock you in, sometimes a horrible design

[last cedar]

Ooof :/

[clear ferry]

Have a friend who had two s and now a 3, he said the build quality has improved immensely after they moved production to China

The S was horrible

[umbral cliff]

Who the heck thought putting the wipers buried in the menu was a smart idea

[last cedar]

Are you only saying that because you are 8 meters tall?

[clear ferry]

Long you mean @last cedar

[last cedar]

Probably

https://tenor.com/view/raise-eyebrow-sexy-flirt-gif-6116268

But like, is it that bad?

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/new-girl-max-greenfield-winston-schmidt-just-say-when-are-you-serious-gif-5320616

[clear ferry]

You should see the etron, subscription to have matrix headlights and navigation

[glacial knot]

(better) rear stear assist on the new Mercedes S class is a subscription as well

it's dumb

[clear ferry]

Lol

On a fucking premium car

[glacial knot]

that's normal. Premium hotel will have everything minor thing as surcharge as well

if you are already shelling out that much money, you either don't care or have someone else pay. Why not milk you a bit more?

[clear ferry]

My wife said I can buy another A8 when I'm 50

[glacial knot]

20€/d hotel? Free wifi is a given
200€/d? Yea, gotta fork over 20€ extra for that wifi

[forest edge]

think your friend just has bad luck, I rarely run across quality complaints when it comes to tesla just bitching about subscription and previous owner headaches

[glacial knot]

Americans just aren't used to production quality
It's been a constant issue with Tesla. Their quality is far from the production quality of established manufacturers in the price class

[clear ferry]

No, Tesla is one of the most popular EVs in Norway, I know close to a dozen people who have had to replace the engines on their Tesla's, some more than once

The doors sag terribly

[forest edge]

maybe cause the transport to there predamaged them?

I mean no wonder shit falls off lol

[clear ferry]

More likely because the Americans have to sign NDA when the get their Tesla's repaired

So you don't hear about it

[forest edge]

lol nda

your just mad cause you only got to really experince the cheaper tesla's and not the better ones

[clear ferry]

Yeah, the one Tesla model s ludicrous was so cheap

Also because we have 50% off EVs here they are actually quite cheap

[forest edge]

there is a cheaper variant of the s lol

not to mention not sure what changes have to be made to pass your road laws

what you get may be something entirly diffrent all together

[clear ferry]

Actually make them safe for road use you mean

[forest edge]

may say S or 3 or X but is much like how imports here are not the same as they are in thier home country

[clear ferry]

https://c.tenor.com/t8rhJofwGD8AAAAM/ok-mickey-mouse.gif

[forest edge]

well it's true and your a fool to not believe it

look at cars from like japan etc

radical changes

[clear ferry]

You mean putting the startling steering wheel on the right side

[forest edge]

it's way more than that

some of the cars don't even look the same from the outside

[clear ferry]

That is true for American > rest of the world for all cars

Audi looks the same in all countries, except America

[forest edge]

I doubt there is 0 changes made from something coming out of sea to eu

[clear ferry]

Heck the Audi 200 us edition is horrible

[umbral cliff]

Small things like mirror and firmware changes though. Wouldn’t be motor or door stuff

[glacial knot]

looks like the differences are purely for better standards in the EU https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/3m92gp/what_is_the_difference_if_any_between_a_us_spec/

[umbral cliff]

That’s stupid. Glad bmw changed their mind doing subscriptions for CarPlay

[forest edge]

it could be many things.. laws tend to have fine print thus messes with alot of stuff

[umbral cliff]

Oh also the fact the USA allows same coloured taillights as indicators

Which is weird

[glacial knot]

.s/weird/dumb/

[clear ferry]

[forest edge]

I mean we had cars before there was even lights..

must be nice to suddenly get cars only after they evolved years later lol

[glacial knot]

you do know that cars aren't an american invention, right? 😂

[clear ferry]

he didn't

[forest edge]

you do know we mass them before other right?

[glacial knot]

yea, some americans think Ford invented them 😂

Yes? Your comments still don't match with history in any sensible way

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/audi-snow-schnee-audi-mit-dem-schnee-auf-der-haube-sehr-viel-schnee-gif-20234445

[glacial knot]

optimized air resistance

[clear ferry]

Normal winter in Norway

Which is why I loved my 100 quattro in Northern Norway

[glacial knot]

it helps

[forest edge]

you still get that much snow?

[forest edge]

Ford was only 10 years behind. a decade is nothing in the 1800's

[clear ferry]

[forest edge]

also the problems with the tail lights and turn signals being the same color was more of a eu and italy thing and not us

guess you all don't look at the vehicles in front of you

which that bean emoji is so fitting lol

[clever mortar]

Turn signals in Europe are amber, tail lights are red

[forest edge]

yea since the 60's

and article I just ran across broke it down about the studies conducted over there which lead to the change and addition of the ambre color

[clever mortar]

Got a link?

(I love that kind of weird history stuff)

[forest edge]

https://autouniversum.wordpress.com/2018/03/22/the-germans-arent-just-cutting-corners-on-emissions/ history isn't showing me the main one I found

I had found a much older article that went indepth, trying to find it

[clever mortar]

Thanks

[glacial knot]

love how the article just bashes the "American style" turning indicators every second sentence

[forest edge]

it's 2018

so yea modren views are going to be biased

the older article wasn't like that, it was more unbiased

I don't get why chrome hand picks what it adds to your history list

[glacial knot]

youmean, the other one didn't read the data the decision was based on?

[forest edge]

makes no sense, had this issue the other day trying to hunt down something i already opened

so even that article talks about an "international" study.. which means non-us

that was done in the 60's

at the beginning it talked about ours being around 2008 etc

at this point it's a whole diffrent breed of drivers so what is considered "best" now wasn't always the case then etc

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/mmm-what-wtf-wow-omg-gif-9553636

[glacial knot]

😂 yes, you guys can't be arsed to use the indicators. So it doesn't matter much

[forest edge]

and there is truth in that, but i am sure every country has thier lot

[clear ferry]

Are you calling the muricas for BMW users @glacial knot ?

[glacial knot]

I wonder if there are stats. I bet tesla collects them. Our drivers ed is vastly different from the US after all

[glacial knot]

Nah. Ignorant.

[forest edge]

don't think it would tell you anything.. the system in every country is too diffrent. sure everyone has roads etc but the layout and everything is diffrent

we didn't even have circles or whatever roundabouts as they call them till more recently

Look kids Big Ben

[glacial knot]

and you talk about decades behind 😂

[forest edge]

thats not a behind thing

[clear ferry]

7900 roundabouts in the US, that is how many i have to pass to get from Oslo to Fredrikstad

[last cedar]

No one has invented circles yet, where you live?!

[forest edge]

most americans hate the roundabouts and want the 4 way stops they replaced back

[glacial knot]

yes, worse is better. Because we always did it that way

[forest edge]

just diffrent drivers

[clear ferry]

I love the British roundabouts, with 5 lanes and stop lights

[forest edge]

our 4 ways aren't small enough to fit in someone's living room

[last cedar]

People who don't indicate when leaving a round about need to be shot, IMO

[forest edge]

that's another thing.. we don't have roundabouts where people can just stay in them lol

[last cedar]

Have gun turrents on every one, shooting people who don't indicate

[forest edge]

seen one two lane roundabout but most are single lane

[clear ferry]

Hardly any are one lane

[forest edge]

that sounds more dangerous then anything

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/flying-car-crash-roundabout-funny-gif-17925885

They are super dangerous

[clear ferry]

Most in Oslo are three, but the five or more British ones are great, when I remember I'm on the wrong side of the road

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/iAgX6qlJEMc

f that lmao

[umbral cliff]

Hey I’m a bmw driver and I use my indicators!

[clear ferry]

You need to change brand

[umbral cliff]

Nah I like my German money eater

Surprisingly not an oil eater

[forest edge]

that's another thing.. car manufactures aren't required to make the tail turn indicators the same as the brake lights yet most of import one's make it that way for their us variant lol

that's kind of a not our fault thing there

[clear ferry]

Hwat

[glacial knot]

Why would it be an oil eater?

[umbral cliff]

It’s a 21 year old bmw

[glacial knot]

Ahh

[last cedar]

50/50 oil fuel mix

[umbral cliff]

My car however does love to piss coolant every few thousand kms lol

[glacial knot]

go get it fixed?

[clear ferry]

I love that the Audi manual says that 1L per 1000km is normal oil use

[umbral cliff]

I do. It just breaks

Old plastic

[forest edge]

sounds like older american cars

[umbral cliff]

Hot pressurised coolant

[forest edge]

80's sports car use to eat through oil like candy

[glacial knot]

because they drove with mixture, or because they sucked?

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/fcb-fcbayern-bayern-bayernmunich-bayernmünchen-gif-13118164

[forest edge]

older carb and efi engines just always burned through oil

[clear ferry]

Mmmm carburettor

Love them

[forest edge]

it was normal.. you would wonder if something was wrong if it didn't.. now that was just for like mustangs and camero's etc

the 4 bangers didn't do that

i would say all v8's but that isn't true.. the 305 and 350's in trucks etc didn't eat through oil

[umbral cliff]

Newer cars now do it when their seals go

[forest edge]

yea but that is usually a defect issue

[umbral cliff]

Or age

[forest edge]

how can it be newer if it's age?

lol

[umbral cliff]

Newer cars (aka made after the 80s) when they age have seals go

[forest edge]

i have a v6 half size truck parked in my barn that hasn't been started in like 15 years and it dosen't leak lol

[glacial knot]

age leads to defects

[clever mortar]

Clearly the answer is maintain your car

I've never had an oil consumption issue, even with cars that have seen better years

[forest edge]

v6 and v4 cars and I guess in eu there is even 3 and 2 piston cars? wouldn't really see an oil issue

[umbral cliff]

4 cycl can definitely have oil leaks

[forest edge]

yea but that isn't common. atleast not here

[clever mortar]

I've been behind enough with leaks here 😄

The smell and colour of burning oil is quite obvious

[umbral cliff]

Here being American made or cars sold in America?

[forest edge]

and that just isn't any oil.. it's whale oil

[glacial knot]

jup, burned oil is a very specific smell

[forest edge]

you refering to my comment or tinkerers?

[glacial knot]

A guy here still drives a Trabant. Easy to smell when he just left^^

[umbral cliff]

Yours

[forest edge]

all, even the imports that had v8's ate oil but the v6's and v4's rarely leaked any for both domestic and import

infact there was a styretch there in the 80's and 90's where import cars were deemed better at most things (aside from speed)

but since amercian mau's have caught up

[umbral cliff]

At least when bmw had the shitty engines mid-late 2000s there were plenty of oil leaks. Even the 4 and 6 cycl. Most people on the forums are American so taking it from there

[glacial knot]

with your limited max speed, max speed doesn't matter either way /shrug

[clear ferry]

All of VW 4cyl tfsi eat oil

BMW 4 cyl are just terrible between 90 and 2003

Audi V6 from 86-03 were horrible too for oil consumption

[umbral cliff]

Hey the 1.9L one for the 318 is fine. Pretty strong and sturdy engine

[forest edge]

Honestly I always thought foreign car manufactures cheaped out on quality when selling the specific american variant. that may be true, may be true in reverse too, dunno

[umbral cliff]

It’s the later year ones that caused issues

(We have my 00 bmw and a 04 bmw, 04 has 3 leaks mine has 0)

[clear ferry]

The biggest issues with the EU vehicles in the US is that they are only sold with with V6 or v8 which introduces other premium options that make them less reliable

Which is why EU cars are reliable in EU, but unreliable in the US

[forest edge]

I do know BMW is an asshole company.. always has been. plenty of youtube videos of american bmw mechanics talking about thier practices and proceedures etc

[umbral cliff]

The biggest issues are parts are just expensive

[forest edge]

then they go and put out that subscription shit

[umbral cliff]

Otherwise no different than any other European car really

[forest edge]

they all assholes? lol

[glacial knot]

Nah, I'd say BMW is a bit worse than most of VM conglomerate

[umbral cliff]

I don’t mind subscriptions because when buying a used car I’ll be able to get the features I want (assuming they also come with a buy lifetime option - which bmw does now)

Or just wait a bit till they hack the software the dealer uses and then use that anyway

[forest edge]

exactly what I am talking about and was talking about when it came to the tesla.. I think other countries fuck over other countries in those ways lol

[clear ferry]

No

You just don't want the smaller engine cars

It isn't the manufacturers fault

[forest edge]

how can you feel that way.. never feel good about paying monthy for something installed on a car just to access it lol

[umbral cliff]

Notice how I said lifetime sub

Aka pay once and never again

[forest edge]

i mean.. who does?

[clear ferry]

Every other country

[umbral cliff]

People who don’t need to go fast and want to save on fuel

Or be more economical

[forest edge]

so then when you sell it the next person get's fucked? lol

[umbral cliff]

Why? If you buy once then it stays with the vin

This isn’t Tesla

[forest edge]

oh? it carries over?

[umbral cliff]

As far as I understand

Means the next owner can then buy heated seats if they want it and you didn’t too

Don’t have to replace the entire seat for it

[forest edge]

I mean that is better.. stiull shit compared to buying a car and just getting what you paid for at the dealership rather then to pay extra on top of sticker price lol

[umbral cliff]

I’m sure you would be able to bundle it in at the dealer. They love deals

And saying “oh we can add 3 years of xyz for free”

Or whatever

[forest edge]

oh i am sure but it's still a stupid concept

[umbral cliff]

I also wouldn’t ever buy a car brand new. So I look at it from a used concept

Where now you just buy the engine and colours

[forest edge]

just sell cars with and without and only stick to the price. if someone wants it "added" they pay to have it added permantly.. not software unlock

[clear ferry]

Gotta love that 7 year warranty is the norm for cars now

[forest edge]

the fact that it's already in the car makes the price auto go up even if you don't want to pay to unlock it

[clear ferry]

5 years was just too short

[umbral cliff]

What if the base price stays the same and then they only charge the same to permanently add it

[umbral cliff]

Apparently will save bmw money because they don’t need to retool

[forest edge]

yea sounds convient but is it true?

[umbral cliff]

Hell with my car the only difference for cars with or without on board computer is a single checkbox in their dealer tool and a different indicator stalk

They would charge $5k for a indicator stalk with a button

I’m sure they can keep the same price and make money off it

[umbral cliff]

The kms is where it’ll get you anyway

[clear ferry]

For my daily driver, sure

I do 150k in 4 years

But for the family car, not so much

[forest edge]

don't you have to pay for the warrenty?

[clear ferry]

I bought it with 50k and 4 years, so still 100k or 3 years left

[clear ferry]

It's included

Lots of Koreans do 8 years now

Think I've seen 9 too

[forest edge]

ours is still 5 years

but you can add extra

[clear ferry]

VW defaults to 7 now too

[forest edge]

you pretty much have to have a lemon to need any repairs in 5 years lol

[umbral cliff]

Ehh not really. 5 years is when small stuff can start breaking

[forest edge]

i guess if you are rough

[clear ferry]

Like modern cars that don't even have bulbs

[forest edge]

the eletronic shit only lasts about 15 years before that crap starts taking a dumb

[umbral cliff]

It’s peace of mind if shit does go wrong with your new car though. Especially when they can just tack it on for free

[umbral cliff]

Usually easily repairable yourself though

[forest edge]

my truck is fully loaded 2006 and I already have eletronic issues

[clear ferry]

Especially with a car that costs $150k

[forest edge]

nah not when the buttons on the steering wheel start operating stuff they aren't suppose to etc lol

[umbral cliff]

My 2000 bmw has 0 electrical issues. Sounds like dodgy connections or a broken board in the wheel

[forest edge]

I did buy my truck used so there is that lol

[umbral cliff]

(Or god forbid, American engineering)

[forest edge]

humidity, can be lots of things

your au right? i mean do you even know what humidity is?

[umbral cliff]

….

[forest edge]

lol

[umbral cliff]

I also lived in Singapore for a bit

We had a Volvo there. No issues at all

[forest edge]

just saying there is no telling what causes the issue.. just for some reasons the eletronics are around the first things to go

[umbral cliff]

Your issue is probably replaceable though. I’m guessing it’ll be a dodgy connector, cable, or board that’s broken

[forest edge]

like they say.. don't buy appliances with all the bells and whistles if you want to keep it for awhile lol

i am sure

but f that.. i just reach the less than 1 foot from the radio and use the knobs lol

[umbral cliff]

If you have an aftermarket radio then it could even be that

[forest edge]

nah it's stock

[umbral cliff]

Average owners and electronics should never mix

Found out the previous owner of my car cut the antenna wire and just twisted it into the roof antenna. Instead of the actual radio signal amplifier

[clear ferry]

I need to get my energy dashboard set up in ha

[umbral cliff]

Had to connect it back up using PAL tv connectors because it’s the one connector bmw doesn’t sell by itself

[forest edge]

use one of those old meter image with the rotating disc as a card so you just watch it spin really fast

you have a tv in your bmw?

[umbral cliff]

Radio = fm/am

[forest edge]

oh

[umbral cliff]

But that was an option for the car yes

Alongside gps

[clear ferry]

Yeah, I had a TV tuner in my A8 too

[forest edge]

you see parents with tablets and dvd players etc in cars here but actual TV in the car is not really a thing, factory, aftermarket.. it just isn't a thing here

[clear ferry]

But Norway had already killed the TV by air distribution years ago

[umbral cliff]

How do you get free to air tv then?

Cable for all?

[clear ferry]

Lots of free TV over IP here

[forest edge]

but atsc 3.0 just came out.. your missing out!

[clear ferry]

Even you can watch Norwegian tv over ip

[umbral cliff]

Eww atsc

[forest edge]

its what we use lol

[umbral cliff]

DVB like what most of the world uses

[forest edge]

we do our own thang

[clear ferry]

Norway killed the TV distribution over air in 2007, just like they killed fm in 2018

And landlines are now fully dead

[forest edge]

I wonder if dvb is as advanced at atsc 3.0 tho

atsc 3.0 is 4k

[umbral cliff]

Yeah like instead of the open standard for digital radio you guys have to use a proprietary standard for that instead

Thank the us military

[clear ferry]

Sirius?

[forest edge]

alot that has to do with control issues lol

we just don't trust you people

look at atx.. case dismissed

[umbral cliff]

Yeah DVB-T2 has 4K

[forest edge]

how long has that been out?

[umbral cliff]

A few years

[forest edge]

OTA here isn't really a priority to the masses I have to say

so advancments in it would be slow

[umbral cliff]

Here it is. Most say fuck it to paying for the singular pay tv company

No surprise that australia was the number 1 country in the world for piracy

[forest edge]

lol in au I would probably say f you to the cable providers as well considering everything you guys get is way over priced lol

[umbral cliff]

$100/ month for pay tv is average

So fuck it completely

[orchid rose]

we've had 4k on terrestial for 10 years or so now according to wiki

[forest edge]

yea thats way over priced

[umbral cliff]

Plus we all hate the company that owns Foxtel (news Corp)

Filthy American shit

[forest edge]

it costs me less than that for tv and internet

[clear ferry]

We just do TV over IP for 15+ years, no limits

[umbral cliff]

$100/ month for 100/20 here 🙃

[forest edge]

nice.. I think atsc 3.0 came to light here about 3-4 years ago but only just started being put into devices within the last couple of years

[clear ferry]

$75 for 600/600 here

[umbral cliff]

Lucky. But also australia has always been very expensive for internet

Cloud flare hates us lol

[forest edge]

he pays 75 for internet but then has to shell out 150 for a burger

[clear ferry]

You can watch Norwegian tv for free if it makes you feel better @umbral cliff

[umbral cliff]

Yeah we watch free to air crap for free too

[clear ferry]

https://tv.nrk.no/

[umbral cliff]

Online or in person

[forest edge]

lol

[umbral cliff]

Got plex using free to air over IP using their streaming links someone compiled

[forest edge]

vpn and internet.. you should have access to everything

wait you don't need vpn, only we do lol

[clear ferry]

Lol vpn

[forest edge]

region lock is bs

[umbral cliff]

It’s what I do love Netflix for. Their shit is region free released worldwide at the same time

Not drip fed over 10 years

[forest edge]

that is not true lol

[clear ferry]

Just subscribe to my Plex @umbral cliff

[forest edge]

there is a diffrence between what you get on your netflix vs mine as well as released dates for content on it

I looked that shit up not too long ago

[umbral cliff]

Yeah I’m talking Netflix produced shit

[forest edge]

another thing that is bs

[umbral cliff]

Since Netflix can’t control what xyz company want

[forest edge]

infact half the movies that ever released are released in everywhere but the US like a week or so earlier then we get it

[umbral cliff]

I’ll just download whatever I want at home 😛

[forest edge]

can torrent shit before it's sold in stores lol

makes one wonder what is on atx's plex aside from 60 minutes

[clear ferry]

Other liberal nonsense you see

[forest edge]

I bet 99% is in a language I cannot understand

[clear ferry]

You mean English

Understandable

I've seen your education system

[forest edge]

british english.. just as bad

[clear ferry]

[forest edge]

I've seen mr bean.. there is a reason he rarely talks lol

[orchid rose]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Yp0u0UlnRg

[forest edge]

lol

I wish wireless was as reliable as wired

[late gate]

$160 for 1000/1000 here :/

[strange crag]

definitely not region free - the US gets stuff we cant get. As for releasing all at once - yeah they do it, but not sure thats entirely a good thing or not. Cos once you binge watch it youi have to wait an entire year (or more) before the next season.

[umbral cliff]

I’ve not seen a single Netflix made show that was us exclusive only

[late gate]

I am SMART! S-M-R-T!

@clear ferry is not as fit anymore, sadly. Too much "gjemmekontor"

[forest edge]

my fans are controlled through lutron switch and what they call canopy the wires hooked to before running into the fan to control dimming functions and fan speeds by sending pulses over the live wire. surprised they haven't made a smart switch that controls a "smart rgb bulb" in the same way so only one of the devices needs to connect to a network.

[low harness]

Remember when headphones used to have wires, and the immense feeling of unreasonable rage whenever those got stuck on something?

I just had that happen with a head mounted display. Oh. My. God!

[forest edge]

lol

[late gate]

Good news for you is that headphone wires are is the fashion trend again 😉

[clear ferry]

I actually haven't gained any weight on home office

I stay at the same weight for over four years now

[strange crag]

lol thats cos you are only watching AU stuff. Its already been filtered out. If you manage to get a vpn to the US to work - try netflix thru that. But I hear that most of the streaming platforms are actively stopping incoming clients that originate from vpns.

[umbral cliff]

I use a VPN, Netflix exclusive and own made I’ve not noticed any differences. Anything that is not Netflix made then sure there’s a difference

(And it’s gotten a lot better recently for what aus has)

[strange crag]

well I should hope its getting better, cos what AU gets is pretty crappy and is so far behind the US releases when they do get it and there is no reason for it that I can see.

[umbral cliff]

Yeah well you get to thank shitty media companies for that. Disney+ seems to be releasing Disney movies around the same time too. They can do their own stuff because they can, harder to get other companies to cooperate especially with older films

[late gate]

The weirdest thing happened last night; One outside camera has not been working for two months, and last night it just started working again, like normal. It didnt even pull POE when it was dead

[pale shadow]

Dell best

[glacial knot]

😂

[pale shadow]

Kek

I just don't like ilo

[turbid stirrup]

🦝 A raccoon was spotted near my home. (within 1 kilometer)
Is Home Assistant luring them, Michelle?

[late gate]

I think that could be my camera issue! Michelle is pulling the cable!

[clear ferry]

Ilo 4 lyfe

None of that idrac bullcrap @pale shadow

[pale shadow]

Idrac9 is sexy

[clear ferry]

🤢

[brisk glen]

HP, sexy… 🤢

[clever mortar]

At least it's not Compaq...

[clear ferry]

Hey, Compaq did some good stuff

Proliant was one of them

The rest they got from DEC

[clever mortar]

Some of their kit may have been good, but a lot of it was utter shit

Including the ones with the "tamper" switch on the case, that failed all the time and cut the power to the motherboard

[clear ferry]

Their desktops were great if you were into self harm, i looked like a triple suicide attempt after replacing a dimm

[forest edge]

lol

never heard of a tamper switch that cuts power to the machine

not for anything residential anyways

[clear ferry]

But you don't even know the difference between a UK and EU socket

Y'all can't be trusted

[forest edge]

there was a diffrence? I thought they were all just pushing two bare wires into a hole

[last cedar]

Yes! Post it to me!!

[last cedar]

No. I Fixed it

[late gate]

Great. I will skip racoon roast this christmas

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/going-down-slide-weee-raccoon-having-fun-sliding-down-gif-14154063

Weeeeee

[last cedar]

Thank you very much

[last dirge]

that's not a normal thing?

are trash pandas not worldwide?

[clear ferry]

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Current-distribution-and-general-prevalence-rates-of-B-procyonis-in-raccoons-throughout_fig1_233770109

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/European-distribution-of-raccoons-Procyon-lotor-Aster-isks-indicate-deliberate_fig1_257496786

[finite atlas]

no

they are a florida issue

[last dirge]

wannabe norse raccoons

[glacial knot]

oh right, I forgot that mericans cut through asia on their maps

[glacial knot]

sometimes I wonder if you want to make your side of the puddle look stupid. 2 Writes 😂

[clear ferry]

Nothing beats the flimsy us two prong anyway

[glacial knot]

british plugs are pretty nice

with their fuses

[clear ferry]

They are so bulky

[glacial knot]

that they are. Fun to step on

[clear ferry]

It's like plugging in a 63a plug

[glacial knot]

ehhh

I don't think the british one locks into place

[clear ferry]

Just going to charge my phone in London

Bonkers innit

[glacial knot]

😄

[clear ferry]

This is what it feels like plugging in a us plug when I travel

[static schooner]

I very rarely see that with a grounded plug, and only with older, worn out sockets used with 2-prong plugs

[clear ferry]

Since this exists in guess it must be a problem somehow

[static schooner]

It’s more of a problem with big wall worts that want to pull themselves out

It’s not an epidemic

I’m glad that some folks are making money on a tiny piece of plastic, but I’ve had no need for it

[clear ferry]

At first I was like

Wtf

Then I realized it was plastic

[static schooner]

More often, plugs require more force than I expect to remove

[clear ferry]

The EU plugs are so snug that you have to use two hands some times to remove them

Which is troublesome

[glacial knot]

you must have flimsy arms

it's not like you got to worry about pulling the socket out of the wall here either

[clear ferry]

No, it's when using an extension one

No problem when in the wall

[glacial knot]

now I'm confsued. Are there extension cords lose enough to just yank them one handed? o.0

[clear ferry]

No, when using one of these, I have to use two hands to remove the plug

[static schooner]

It’s nice that they provide little bowls to pour water into

[clear ferry]

[low harness]

Are we still doing this?

[static schooner]

Little jello molds

[orchid rose]

On more than one occasion I have used a hammer to plug in something because the safety feature with these refused to work

[turbid stirrup]

No no
You have to daisy chain these

[tidal bronze]

Glad HP spent time innovating servers while the rest of the world was hell bent on making a 2 hand plug.

[clear ferry]

The child proofing is.... Eh on some

[glacial knot]

Socket safety features suck

[orchid rose]

Yeah... With a hammer you can just go through it

[glacial knot]

Just make sure to use a nice screwdriver to do it one by one while it's plugged in 😉

[finite atlas]

agreed

[wet pilot]

just used HA to determine Time of Death for my HVAC system

[tidal bronze]

Google sends an email for this already for nest devices

[wet pilot]

the control board failed so the thermostat wasn't getting the right signals back to figure it out

[tidal bronze]

Funny the email includes HVAC pros to fix issues as well. Pleasantly surprised.

[wet pilot]

but the blower motor fried out but the furnace was still on. So that safety check on the controller failed. Also it cut the common line for a bit. My ecobee powering off was my first tip off that something was wrong

[clear ferry]

Oooof

That sounds really safe

[wet pilot]

oh yeah, super bad

[tidal bronze]

I had to replace the blower as well. Medium speed was dead

[clear ferry]

Reminds me, I need to get in touch with my friend with the only HVAC system i know of in Norway

I was supposed to help him smartify it

[wet pilot]

we made a call at 1am, they promised a call back at 6a, called on time. Truck was at our door by 9

system is FUBAR though so we're getting the whole thing replaced

heat exchangers were cracked

[tidal bronze]

Going for forced air or heat pump?

[wet pilot]

since the gas lines are already there we're going to continue with forced air

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/ダンス-屁こき-おなら-ガス-fart-gif-15787704

[wet pilot]

replacing the AC too

[last cedar]

That sort of forced air?

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-fart-bear-fart-blowing-you-a-kiss-cute-gif-16459303

[tidal bronze]

Are you going to play the SEER game ? 🙂

[wet pilot]

lol