the-water-cooler

[glacial knot]

I pay more in taxes alone. And the other stuff is covered by mandatory insurances D:

[low harness]

The basic retirement plan is very basic, by the way. I don't envy those forced to live on it.

[glacial knot]

I don't even trust ours still being a thing in the 40 years time that I'd benefit from it
and same...

monatlich durchschnittlich zwischen 700 und 800 Euro
nice

[hushed basalt]

Childcare is a bit of a joke in Australia

It's been all rorted, so well connected people own the centres or the land and facility, and earn millions in taxpayer subsidies

And employ low skilled, a lot of imported labor, to be babysitters

[elfin marten]

Hi, i have messed up. I was playing with the HA app and tapped the “take control” for the dashboard. Now there is nothing 🙈 how do i undo it please

[velvet horizon]

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[clever mortar]

Not here, clearly, as it says so right in the channel topic

As explained when you last posted here for support

Also...

[velvet horizon]

@elfin marten Please DO NOT cross post. Read the channel description, post it and wait for folks to respond.

If you don't get any responses after an hour or more, and your message is no longer on screen, it is fine to re-post or post a link to it.

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[elfin marten]

Didn’t see it. Now where can i ask for help?

[clever mortar]

Yet... I pointed you at it yesterday and told you not here for support 🤔

#frontend-archived for all things frontend

[elfin marten]

Thank you

[low harness]

I am SO glad I bought this AC

[clever mortar]

Yeah, we had a portable AC unit in our last house and it was amazing to have

[young sigil]

I was thinking that you have your temperature set very high (it's winter here) 🤦‍♂️ I had a ducted heatpump installed for the whole house. I've been running it 24/7, comfy as. But I have no idea how much energy it is using as the electrician installed my energy meter incorrectly. Hopefully that will be fixed this week.

[bitter pawn]

portables are pretty innefficient

but comfort and convenience, they are nice.

[clever mortar]

It wasn't like where we lived we could justify anything else - it would only get nasty hot for a few weeks of the year

[dusky plank]

I only turn on mine on really hot days also, living in the top apartment and having 30C is not bearable with homeoffice.
having it turned on more often is also not worth the money as it pulls too much energy

[deft pewter]

Speaking of uncomfortable conditions... I hate leg sweat.

[young sigil]

Not as bad as sweat rolling down your back. It tickles uncomfortably, you cant reach it and it is going to end up in "no mans land".

[clever mortar]

Surely the answer is ... move to Norway 😛

[low harness]

Silly non-hyperflexibles. I can reach one hand over my shoulder and shake the one I reach behind my back. There’s nowhere I can’t scratch.

[glacial knot]

full handshake or like awkward half reach?

[low harness]

Half. My fingers overlap almost entirely, but the palms mostly don’t meet.

[deft pewter]

I pushed pretty hard on this run. Pretty sure I could sweat in the cold 😂

[clever mortar]

More a question for #integrations-archived (about connecting it to HA)

[opal flower]

Thank you!

[low harness]

Why are horrible and horrific synonyms but terrible and terrific opposites?

English is weird

[clever mortar]

Yes

[deft pewter]

Even better, some words have actually changed their 'polarity' over time.

Awful used to be positive, as in 'full of awe'.

[clever mortar]

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/694108-the-problem-with-defending-the-purity-of-the-english-language

[deft pewter]

Purity 🤣

[low harness]

Changing polarity is the shit!

[clever mortar]

Exactly

[deft pewter]

I get the French council that does the same thing... English is already a bastard langauge.

[clever mortar]

English started that way, and has been "exploring other options" ever since

[deft pewter]

We can't even keep our vowels in line. 🤦‍♂️

Requires the ability to read IPA, but this is pretty cool: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Vowel_Shift#Overall_changes

Imagine hearing 'bite' pronounced as 'beet' 🤯

At least for the Scots, 'out' hasn't changed at all... 'oot' 🤣

[clever mortar]

We're pretty damn thrawn

[low harness]

I heard you can't even decide which letters even are vowels. Like y

[deft pewter]

I don't know y

[clever mortar]

y is a vowel... sometimes

[deft pewter]

I love the classic ghoti/fish.

[low harness]

I found another one sometime that read Potato, but I can't remember it.

I think ptomaine was in the explanation somewhere

Ghoughpteighbteau

[deft pewter]

Yeah, that one doesn't work 😂

'gh' never sounds like a hard P. The 'bt' at the end is trying to sound like the ending of 'doubt' but again isn't a hard T.

[low harness]

What about hiccough?

And debt.

[deft pewter]

Hiccough? That's not even a word 😂

Hiccup...

Who broke English again? 😢

[static schooner]

it's our way of detecting invaders

[deft pewter]

That explains it...

The word hiccup itself was created through imitation. The alternative spelling of hiccough results from the association with the word cough.
Someone decided it's somewhat similar to a cough, so they fucked up the spelling deliberately.

[static schooner]

"read this sentence"

[low harness]

Gh as in hiccough, ough as in though, pt as it ptomaine, eigh as in neigh, bt as in debt, eau as in bureau was the explanation I found.

[deft pewter]

Gh as in hiccough
Again, this one doesn't work.

[clever mortar]

Yeah, but don't forget that in English, and Scots in particular, some letters may be silent, because ... why not

[deft pewter]

Can't take a made up word and use it to prove some alternate phonetics. But that blame sits with someone else, not with you.

[deft pewter]

I heard most sounds are silent in Scots. That's why you never hear them say anything intelligent.

[clever mortar]

You're overlooking the fact that what we say goes right over your head, so you just don't notice it 😉

[deft pewter]

Nothing goes over my head, I'm too fast.

[clever mortar]

I thought that was nothing gets past you, you're just too fat 🤔

[deft pewter]

I feel like you could swap out every instance of 'Irish' for 'Scottish' in this and it'd still work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJG7CIqLo9A

Now everybody's died, so until our tears are dried
We'll drink and drink and drink and drink
And then we'll drink some more
We'll dance and sing and fight until the early mornin' light
Then we'll throw up, pass out, wake up
And then go drinkin' once again

Actually, there's a few Irish-specific lines in there too... 😦

[turbid stirrup]

I have a problem....
I made my own jira to contain all my home automation ideas so I can get them out of my head / write the design considerations down while waiting to get more hardware in...

[clever mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-jordan-belfort-leonardo-di-caprio-one-of-us-jonah-hill-gif-5441859

[deft pewter]

I hope you've integrated Jira so you get alerts for every unfinished ticket.

Hourly notifications if a ticket is open for more than 7 days.

[turbid stirrup]

adds jira ticket to integrate that 😉

[deft pewter]

After another 7 days, access to Reddit and YouTube is terminated

[turbid stirrup]

oof

[deft pewter]

On all devices. No more hiding in the bathroom to doom scroll /r/popular

[turbid stirrup]

Nah. After another 7 days, have all ESPHome devices blare out reminders
Even the ones I didn't know I put any speaker components on...

[subtle pasture]

This is why it's handy to host an SSL VPN on port 443

[deft pewter]

Quick, add another ticket to terminate the VPN.

[subtle pasture]

You can't.. not without blocking the entire internet

[deft pewter]

That's fine. That'll teach them for not closing tickets.

[subtle pasture]

It'll just look like any other TCP traffic on Port 443, which is the same type of traffic as any HTTPS page

[ornate gulch]

man HA is a lot of work

i've been seeting stuff up for like 3 days lol

all fun tho

[subtle pasture]

Once you're set up it just kinda cruises, though

[turbid stirrup]

I've still got to put a mail rule in at work to ignore the weekly slew of jira's which get assigned to the next sprint and the next and the next and the next 🙂
(What is this planning thing? THe current sprint is another word for backlog)

[subtle pasture]

I only have to put in any major effort when there are breaking changes in an upgrade

[deft pewter]

And when it all crashes and you have to rebuild it, it'll take you less than 3 days 😄

[deft pewter]

Yeah... set up a filter to move that noise to a folder and mark it as read 😂 I had to do that with GH mails too, especially when I was the one to review most PR's.

Ignore that crap until you have a spare half hour (so never).

[subtle pasture]

I mean, if you take a snapshot, you can restore in under an hour usually

[turbid stirrup]

you know the kind.... at first it's just faster to hit delete that one time it happens

but you get more and more and at a certain point it becomes worth the effort to think of the exact mail rule needed

[deft pewter]

https://xkcd.com/1205/

xkcd: Is It Worth the Time?

Don't forget the time you spend finding the chart to look up what you save. And the time spent reading this reminder about the time spent. And the time trying to figure out if either of those actually make sense. Remember, every second counts toward your life total, including these right now.

[turbid stirrup]

exactly the one I was thinking of

[deft pewter]

Only problem with not automating up front is that you'll never get back the time you already lost to manual work.

Gotta make that judgement call early on.

[turbid stirrup]

yup

or have a clear expectation on how long it'll still bug you

[deft pewter]

Until it annoys you enough to quit your job 😂

[subtle pasture]

My company implemented KnowBe4, which periodically sends out fake spam and phishing emails, and tracks who messes up and clicks a link or opens an attachment.
I very quickly figured out some rules to send all of their phishing attempts directly to the trash. lol

[turbid stirrup]

ewwww

care to share? We've got them too

[subtle pasture]

It helps that our spam filtering solution (Reflexion) stamps a threat score at the bottom of every email. KnowBe4 was being blocked by Reflexion, so it had to be bypassed... which means all email from KnowBe4 is missing a threat score.

[turbid stirrup]

ah, that's an easy one yeah

it means you don't work at my place of work 🙂

(since we don't get the threat scores)

[subtle pasture]

I get that they wanted all KnowBe4 email to go through as training, but I disagree with bypassing spam filtering for it

I want to see the KnowBe4 messages that are good enough to get past the defenses we already have in place

[turbid stirrup]

yep.... you know, the ones you actually have to worry about

the only argument I could think of is "but you don't have that spam filter in your private mailboxes, and that's also an attack vector"

[narrow tulip]

I bought this sensor https://zigbee.blakadder.com/EFEKTALAB_EFEKTA_PWS.html and in the package was this little thing as an extra. Any idea what this might be? 🙂

[deft pewter]

Just looks like a USB breakout board. #diy-archived would have a better idea.

[subtle pasture]

Too many pins for USB 2.0

[narrow tulip]

also too small to fit into an usb port, was my first idea too

[deft pewter]

Mini-b?

[subtle pasture]

Mini-b is still only 4 pins. lol

[deft pewter]

What's this showing?

[subtle pasture]

Wait, did they put an extra ground on mini-b?

Because USB 2.0 is only +5v, D+, D-, and GND

[deft pewter]

https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/35462/why-does-micro-usb-2-0-have-5-pins-when-the-a-type-only-has-4

It's for On-The-Go, to select which device is the host or slave:

[subtle pasture]

Interesting

[narrow tulip]

mini-b could be possible

[deft pewter]

From the pitch of the headers at the broken out end, the smaller end must only be about 7-8mm across. Would that match mini-b?

That's my best guess... but I'm not a hardware nerd.

[narrow tulip]

looks correct

[crisp sapphire]

How about 300%?

[mighty nova]

how do I know which room is the right room to ask a question in?

[static schooner]

From the topics in each channel

[velvet horizon]

The topic of this channel is:

There's no support for Home Assistant here - please look at the other channels for that. If you can't work out which is relevant, start in #general-archived.

If it's a question about the HA Blue start in #330990055533576204. Install related problems go to your Installation Method channel.

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[rugged pasture]

I am brand new here - installed HA on Raspberry Pie - Have many devices automatically detected but some do not have integrations available - At home I have some devices using seetime app (switches for lights and heaters) - how do I add them to HA? Can anyone help?

will try in #general-archived maybe?

[ashen kayak]

probably #integrations-archived

[rare condor]

Does anyone else spend like 30mins each time trying to decide on a mdi icon?

Too many choices, gives me choice paralysis

[forest edge]

nope, most time I ever spent on icons was badgering the dev's here to add string lights icon through the entire holiday season one year

[tidal bronze]

So you switch them on/off every day ?@forest edge 🤔

[rare condor]

Thanks I just used it, although I feel its too simple, if you asked me what it was I couldn't tell you without knowing.

[forest edge]

the stuff i needed the string light icon for? I did a lot back then. course now everything is automated but wasn't then

[tidal bronze]

I see, using GUI is so yesterday

[forest edge]

at least I have a GUI. enjoy having eye surgery soon staring at nothing but text

[tidal bronze]

Staring at GUI in 2021?

[forest edge]

not all of us setup automations through a book or even worse, using alexa voice

[tidal bronze]

Alexa ? 🤔

[forest edge]

"alexa, How many homeless using my pool?"

oh wait you have google

[tidal bronze]

Oh it's been ages since Alexa was removed.

[forest edge]

ages.. so like a year

[tidal bronze]

Few years. The dots or whatever they were called.

[forest edge]

did you order that thinking cup?

[shy comet]

for me pretty much the moment google home the dots were replaced and moved to the garage

i think i kept 1 plugged in to do some search comparisons and after the echo continued to not know anything i chucked it

[forest edge]

sorry dave, I cannot help you with that now

[shy comet]

lol

[tidal bronze]

Yep.

I remember the time when whioe house TTS was cool 😆 now if I hear anything, cringe 😬

[forest edge]

didn't you have it set up to announce when you were on the toliet?

[tidal bronze]

No, measure distance yes.

[forest edge]

you probably went with google for the simple fact you could slow the assistants speech down way low

[tidal bronze]

Now I don't want to see anything or hear anything at all. Things change with time.

[forest edge]

you butcher that phrase cause it's always 2 years to you lmao

[tidal bronze]

Whole house TTS went silent about 3 years ago. The amount of automations commented out kills me 😆

[forest edge]

i never liked voice, not using it to make shit happen or hear it. now having the front camera popup on the tv when someone rings the doorbell.. that's a little diffrent

but only as a popup, if it ever took over the whole display I would throw the tv away

[shy comet]

TTS is critical for me lol, it serves as a good reminder for things

i even use android tv notifications to annoy me to do things like laundry lol

[forest edge]

"suppository due in 1 hour"

[tidal bronze]

Last thing I had TTS for was leak detectors. That also went on twillio

[shy comet]

ive had to change the Ring notification on my phone so many times that i now use TTS....the dogs dont know whats going on anymore 🤣

[forest edge]

lol

[shy comet]

it got to the point where thered be a ring commercial playing somewhere like in the radio in the car and they would go nuts

[tidal bronze]

My dogs know the sound of UPS and fedex trucks. No fix for that.

[shy comet]

hahahah

thats a good indicator

[forest edge]

they can hear them a qtr mile away at the gate?

[shy comet]

who knew owning fish would become an addictive hobby lol...start with 1 and end up with 6 LOL

[forest edge]

I use to have molly's, they bred like rabbits

hated flushing them lol

[shy comet]

my wife brought home a pregnant guppy and the second set of fry just came

[tidal bronze]

Oh nice.

[forest edge]

aka dinner

[shy comet]

haha you can always tell when shes popping out kids cuz all the fish go nuts looking for them

[tidal bronze]

No they recognize the engine noise

[forest edge]

well ups is going electric so you should be notified only half the time

[shy comet]

lol

[bitter pawn]

hey folks

so ive been watching youtube over this latest addition to blue iris that adds deepstack ai for video surveillance systems to do computer vision (aka recognizing people vs. cars vs. animals, etc.)

im not finding anything about deepstack ai as a company

i just know the founder and cofounder look to be from nigeria

anyone know anything else? i mean kinda sus to give a free service like that.

[forest edge]

did you look up DeepQuest?

[bitter pawn]

good idea. googling

hmmm

yeah still finding close to zero on it

idk its just weird thinking im sending images out to this server and they arent using the images for something ya know?

[wintry hazel]

Probably just stealing people's likeness like those photo manipulation apps people keep installing and then finding out it's going to the same place again

[bitter pawn]

it appears that you can run deepstack AI offline

like your own server of it.

not sure how well that works. prolly works like crap

[wintry hazel]

I guess if it's just determining those three categories it might be okay. Might need a lot of learning if it did faces, etc.

[solemn lagoon]

Random question, what skills do people who make their own integrations for home assistant have?

[clever mortar]

Python, or the ability to otherwise code

[deft pewter]

Or to Google. Or copy/paste other people's work and change small parts 😂

I guess that all falls under coding though.

[glacial knot]

Stackoverflowing

let's overflow some heaps next 😄

[deft pewter]

I don't think any work got done when SO died recently 😂

I don't know how anyone fixed the issue without SO either.

[glacial knot]

I actually haven't used SO in way too long

makes it obvious that I don't use new tech as much as I used to

[modern olive]

omg- I just tried Home Assistant for the first time ever, hooked up some of my smart devices. AND I LOVE IT!! It's so fast 😮

WAIT-

I CAN CONTROL MY TV BOXES 😮 OMGGG IM FREAKING OUT 😭

[rare condor]

Does anyone know anything about plants? I have new sensors that record volumetric water content, but I have no idea what my setpoint should be?

It currently reads 38.5%, no idea if that's a good level or not...

[young sigil]

Plants crave electrolytes don't they?

https://tenor.com/view/idiocracy-electrolytes-gatorade-thirsty-dehydrated-gif-14846789

[hushed basalt]

It depends on the plant

But it's not so much a level you water to

As must as a product of the soil makeup

[rare condor]

Potting Mix from Bunnings, from what I have been reading it very much depends, but I am thinking of setting the setpoint to 30%.

Also I f*cked my C++ programming, the modbus queue is assigning the wrong tokens and if I enable temp and water readings they get swapped, so I now have more programming to sort out

[hushed basalt]

Basically your soil profile will have a saturation point, and a dry point

You'd need to experiment to find that

But if it's been raining for a couple of days you can assume the peak is your saturation point

You want to irrigate when you're at about 50% of your peak

[young sigil]

It also depends a great deal on the type of plant. e.g. You would not want that sort of watering schedule for a cactus.

[proud badge]

🥰 Watching Home Assistant 2021.8 release party https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLiqDkam33k

[halcyon umbra]

Tech/AI/Robotics are advancing faster than people realize. This is "Terminator" level scary. https://twitter.com/BostonDynamics/status/1427617735765278722?s=20

Boston Dynamics (@BostonDynamics)

Parkour is the perfect sandbox for the Atlas team to experiment with new behaviors. Through jumps, balance beams, and vaults, we push Atlas to its limits to discover the next generation of mobility, perception, and athletic intelligence. https://t.co/xZRNVnhrkc https://t.co/E0ssh45ZCi

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[subtle pasture]

Finally, Zen3 Threadripper: https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-threadripper-5000-hedt-zen-3-desktop-cpus-detailed-64-cores-280w-tdp-trx40-wrx80/amp/

And AMD is bringing back 12 and 16 core Threadrippers.

[deft pewter]

30%? 😱 Your roots will rot and the whole plant will die.

[subtle pasture]

I've been begging for smaller Threadrippers for a while. This finally boots Intel out of the niche that X299 has dominated for years

[deft pewter]

Figured you all need nightmares tonight: https://www.reddit.com/r/NatureIsFuckingLit/comments/p64ngp/that_snail_is_infested_with_leucochloridium/

[bitter pawn]

tis a good move

[subtle pasture]

Right?

I was tempted to bite the bullet and build an X299 system on 10th gen intel because AMD just... had nothing in that market segment between standard desktops and workstations.

Now, buying a 16 core Threadripper seems pretty compelling. Comes with quad-channel RAM support and 64 PCIe lanes, too

[bitter pawn]

makes alot of sense

only problem ive had with threadripper is the lack of good heatsinks

but that has been resolved over time

[subtle pasture]

Yeah, not sure how well my Noctua NH-D15S will do with Threadripper...

I don't think the contact area is large enough

[bitter pawn]

i got one of these https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NH-U9-TR4-SP3-Premium-Grade-Cooler/dp/B074DXFB66/ref=asc_df_B074DXFB66/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309776868400&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17446199038665833687&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9026921&hvtargid=pla-431815303325&psc=1

[subtle pasture]

Yeah, saw that. It's weird, they only make smaller single-stack heatsinks for Threadripper...

[bitter pawn]

been happy with it but then again i have the cheapest threadripper

https://noctua.at/en/can-i-upgrade-my-existing-noctua-cooler-to-socket-tr4-or-sp3

[subtle pasture]

Yeah, saw that too

I see a lot of people going with AIO water coolers for Threadripper... never been a fan of those, though

[bitter pawn]

i mean more moving parts, more to fail

[subtle pasture]

They always seem to have pump hum, make gurgling noises, and are highly orientation dependent.

[bitter pawn]

but arctic cooling has a great one imo

no bullshit rgb, just great performance

as for orientation dependent....yes. very much so. incorrect placement will accelerate failure. just nature of that design.

[subtle pasture]

Ah, saw a review of the ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280... it technically supports Threadripper, but performs poorly

The coldplate isn't big enough

Also requires an additional purchase (bracket for Threadripper isn't included) to even make an attempt at using it

[bitter pawn]

hmmm

gamers nexus said it was a really good one

hmm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCxqITPtXXA

i guess arctic used to make one for threadripper, but no more

[solemn lagoon]

I mean I have Java and C++ knowledge, but there's a lot more that one would need to know

[clever mortar]

Sure, but the basic starting point is can code

The second step is can code in Python

After that it's just a case of follow the bouncing ball

[solemn lagoon]

fair enough, I just don't see the ball at this point

T_T

[clever mortar]

https://developers.home-assistant.io/

[static schooner]

And Home Assistant itself has many good examples of how to do things

[clever mortar]

Are you suggesting ... use the source?

[static schooner]

Luke

[deft pewter]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/p63shl/asked_my_wife_to_take_a_pic_of_me_petting_a/

[shy comet]

just learned the hard way not to use amazon brand batteries in a door lock....always kept energizer in mine and the battery low notification would last about a month

today it gave its first warning when i locked the door and i got locked out lol

[forest edge]

yea the amazon brand batteries suck

cheap enough for like holiday stuff but not good enough for anything else

[tidal bronze]

@shy comet the wonderful headaches that comes with smarrrrt stuff 😆

[amber bramble]

o.O

the Amazon batteries have been the best batteries i've used in my door lock 😂

[forest edge]

they die before you can unlock always leaving your home secure!

[tidal bronze]

So I guess they are the most secure batteries

[static schooner]

Most of all, don't buy or use the Kirkland batteries from Costco. They seem to leak almost immediately and destroy whatever they're in

I had one Kwikset lock fall victim to their corrosive juices

[amber bramble]

@shy comet Schlage Connect Z-Wave lock by chance?

[shy comet]

Ya the not the zwave plus version can't remember the model number lol

[amber bramble]

same one i have

its battery management sucks

[shy comet]

Ya it was odd I'm used to almost a month of warnings not just 1

[tidal bronze]

So glad got rid of anything battery powered a while ago other than leak detectors.

[amber bramble]

i'm lucky if i get more than a day of low battery warnings

[shy comet]

I normally use Energizer industrial

[shy comet]

You have a powered front door lock?

[tidal bronze]

No

Don't have a lock that fits, plus rarely lock anyway.

[shy comet]

Our lock is the alarm entry point so use it everyday lol

[tidal bronze]

Oh. Don't have an alarm

[amber bramble]

i'm tempted to replace my schlage lock with an electric strike and something like the ubiquiti access control system

[hushed basalt]

Electric strikes ftw

Need to know what you're doing though

Need the right matching hardware

[bitter pawn]

electric strike are nice.

[last cedar]

Step 120 or Assa EL580. Super solid. But expensive

[modern olive]

honestly- I'm super loving my HA- its literally like the best thing I have ever found.

Usually, I use Tuya Smart life for all my stuff- however, not all my devices work with Smartlife, but when I found HA, things changed 😄

however, I want to do more with HA, I don't have a lot of integrations with my ha, as I don't have a lot of smarthome devices, so was wondering, what should I do next?

[fallow karma]

Sadly i couldn't integrated my wife into HA , so i can't mute or completely turn her off

[modern olive]

I-

um

[glacial knot]

I know how to turn off people

talks

[hushed basalt]

Isn't that an electric lock. Not strike

[low harness]

Did some experiments with transparent petg

It looks better in some specific angles, but it was hard to get a good picture.

[dusky plank]

is that piece magnifying?

[low harness]

yes

[dusky plank]

thats cool… so you could make your own optics, but the visibility needs some work it seems

[low harness]

Yes. It's full of air bubbles.

But that's on a normal FDM printer, so it's much better than I expected.

[dusky plank]

as a child i got one of those overhead projector foils in my hand. that thing was mass destruction in my hands in combination with the sun 🔥

[glacial knot]

Which layer height did you picK? I printed something with .1mm couple days ago and it's barely transparent

also, which filament? I have the Prusament PETG Clear

[low harness]

Add:north transparent PETG. 0.05 mm layer height. Increased the extrusion multiplier a couple of percent to avoid air bubbles. Then sanding polishing and spray laquer.

[glacial knot]

hm, sanding might help 😂 I just hate doing that

And multiplier sounds like a good idea. I did assume the many seams make it harder for it to be transparent

[low harness]

A couple of degrees increased nozzle temperature should probably help too.

[glacial knot]

to make it a bit more fluid and build better connections?

[low harness]

Maybe 🤷

You can clearly see the seam between perimeter and infill near the left edge in my picture..

[glacial knot]

Is that solid infill?

[low harness]

yep

[young sigil]

That's pretty good considering it's not even easy with SLA prints. I read this the other day: https://hackaday.com/2021/08/12/how-to-make-resin-prints-crystal-clear/

[low harness]

Yes. That was released like the day after I started, so I watched that video too. He missed the combinations, though. There's no sanding AND painting, and I think doing that and repeating is the way. There's no polishing AFTER coating is what I meant to say...

Even in the article phot you can clearly see the little bumps you get from the coating. They should be possible to polish away.

[young sigil]

Yeah for sure. French polishing isn't done with one coat.

[glacial knot]

Do you polish by hand? I just hate the feeling of sand paper, makes me physically cringe :/
I did consider getting a belt sander that I mount to my desk, just to have a way to sand things that I can tolerate...

[last cedar]

Mmm, didn't read properly :P

[hushed basalt]

You're fired

[last cedar]

Lol

Strike lock we also use step and assa

Solid 70, step 40

Electric lock is better imo, you can integrate it better

More money though

[glacial knot]

electric lock compared to? Old school locks, or trying to make something else electric?

[forest edge]

just makeshift your own magnet lock

[jade tartan]

anyone into SDR?

[forest edge]

i use one to monitor 433mhz devices

[jade tartan]

can you point me in the right direction for a good starting point?

i wana get one, preferibly one that has as many freq as possible strength isnt as important

[forest edge]

I use a nooelec usb

https://www.amazon.com/NooElec-NESDR-Mini-Receiver-RTL2832U/dp/B00VZ1AWQA/ref=sr_1_9?dchild=1&keywords=nooelec+sdr&qid=1629280449&s=electronics&sr=1-9 this one

[jade tartan]

can it also transmit?

[forest edge]

no

[jade tartan]

i'd like to try to find one that can

i have this wi-spy but it's leftover from work and i never used it

the software alone is crazy expensive

[forest edge]

price goes up when you get a transceiver. also they cannot receive and transmit at the same time unless you get one that has both in it with the double antennas

[jade tartan]

ah ok

is there a learning resource you know of so i can read more on SDR and hardware and sich?

[forest edge]

no i don't know any juicy sites or anything lol I bought one, learned enough to use it and stuck it in a closet lol

sits on a pi feeding data back to HA

[jade tartan]

hmm, i wonder what the launchpad can do

someone said to nab it, i did, never used it

[forest edge]

you would be better off asking this in #diy-archived cause there are plenty of people around here that use sdr etc for lots of stuff

[jade tartan]

oh word, thx bud

on how you use it tho

i just found this random RF dongle keychain

has a power button and 2 arrows

opened it, its got a 433mhz crystal

no idea what it goes too

but kinda curious if i could see the signal it puts out

[forest edge]

how the hell they can't get android to run smooth as butter on the rpi4 yet is baffling

[jade tartan]

you'd think right?

[hushed basalt]

What extra things can you do with it

[last cedar]

Bolt in, bolt out, handle pressed down or not.

Then there are 2 different sorts, one that always works to "escape" but not come in, and one that has solenoids on both sides for like fences etc. So you can't come in by putting something on the inside.

And they are seen as better solution for insurance, better standard of lock

[dusky plank]

whats troubling? I genuinely don't know but wonder what is lagging...

[shy comet]

I hate it when companies make stupid trends like this https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/17/22628702/google-pixel-6-charger-not-included like yea please pay $1000 for a phone oh and the hell with you if you just switched from iphone to android for the first time go spend another $10 for a charger

[dusky plank]

i dont really mind, it‘s been like 12 generations of smartphones now and at this point everyone should have multiple chargers laying around. besides that people mostly want to use fast charging abilities which most phones never included to begin with…

[shy comet]

my other main issue is that google cant decide if their phones should consistently have wireless charging

so its not like all of their phones support the same charger when they do that

the argument about too many chargers laying around is like saying a smartphone cant last more tahn 2 years when it can

its sorta valid but not really

[dusky plank]

sure they can last 2 years. they can also last 10 years. but will it be usable by then? for phone calls and text messaging maybe

[glacial knot]

I can charge both laptops, my Nintendo, my phone and other stuff on the same power brick
And only need USB-C/USB-C, and one stupid (USB-A/)lightning cable, because Apple

I'm happy without them throwing another brick in. I bought a couple good ones that support various profiles. And got like 10 cheap ones already from all stupid devices :/

I just wish it was an option. Maybe even a free one

[shy comet]

see thats the thing....back in teh day if you spent $1000 on a phone you got a bunch of accessories with it including headphones

now marketing tries to make it feel like less is more which is dumb...they just want to save $5 when they can

[glacial knot]

But the next step is going to be from USB to wireless stations
which is probably going to annoy me

[shy comet]

see i dont midn wireless.....plugging in your phone can damage the port especially if the phone drops while being plugged in....which goes back to my point about how not all phones made from google consistently have wireless charging

there was at least 1 model that they decided didnt need it while the ones before and after did

[glacial knot]

I don't mind wireless
I'm just not looking forward to wireless only

[shy comet]

i guess it woudlnt bother me as much as the whole companies following suit here

its like when you have ATT and your bill goes up because Verizon decided to up their price

its a constant game in the cell phone business

[dusky plank]

waterproofness is a big plus for me when they get rid of the remaining ports…

[glacial knot]

Main reason I'm not going for a wireless charger at my desk(s) is battery care
If it's charged to full everywhere, battery is going to hate me soon

yea, if they proper waterproof it, at least there's a reason to go port-less

[shy comet]

i remember working for ATT and after Verizon changed a per text fee from 10 cents to 25 cents everyone else did the same thing a week later

lol tell my 2 year old a phone is waterproof and hell still manage to get water damage in it 😛

[glacial knot]

water, not toddler proof

[midnight adder]

this server is for masochists i swear to christ

i've been using home assistant for a year and it somehow makes me miss regular debian linux

[dusky plank]

you can run HA on regular debian linux 🧐

there is even 3 different ways to do so

[midnight adder]

it's called a joke, dear script addict

[glacial knot]

if you include VMs, there's 4

but that's kinda cheating

[deft pewter]

Script addict? 🤔

[dusky plank]

everybody knows I‘m the script addict

need my daily bash fix

[deft pewter]

Important question (and I will judge you if you answer incorrectly): which terminal editor do you use?

[young sigil]

vi - Only because that's what I learnt first and I rarely have to use it.

Also its installed on everything.

[clever mortar]

vim, because actual vi isn't shipped by default, ed is almost never needed these days

[deft pewter]

You mean only because you still haven't figured out how to quit? 😅

Wife asked me about vim and RegEx the other day. I've created a monster.

I still haven't caught her staring at a terminal yet though.

[young sigil]

We have some old CentOS radio node controllers that definitely have vi.

[static schooner]

I think we just need shorthand, like "editor discussion #5", for these things

"editor argument #3"

I suspect that all of this was said back in 1970

[deft pewter]

There's no discussions or arguments. Just facts. vim > all.

madaoZ's opinion doesn't count though. He uses Watchtower.

[cedar chasm]

While the editor discussion is raging; am I the only person that loses control of vim over ssh?

[deft pewter]

Yes

[cedar chasm]

I don't feel like the shortcuts always connect

[deft pewter]

Try Alt+F4.

[cedar chasm]

Does that do something other than light my pants on fire?

[deft pewter]

Which shortcuts give you problems?

[last cedar]

Yes

[cedar chasm]

Good

[last cedar]

It will light your pants and tshirt on fire

[cedar chasm]

Can't remember now, but simple things like saving and quitting

[cedar chasm]

a combo to remember

[last cedar]

Especially if you are not wearing pants or tshirt

[cedar chasm]

Anyway, bearing to my experiences, real or imagined, I use nano (cue belittlement)

[deft pewter]

You know Ctrl+X doesn't work in vim, right? 😂

[cedar chasm]

its :wq for a quick save and exit

[last cedar]

Nano is a lot better

[static schooner]

its :wq for a quick save and exit

ZZ

[deft pewter]

The only times I've seen people have issues with commands in vim, it's been user error.

[cedar chasm]

or :!q for regretful quitting

I'm open to it being user error, taking the rest of my life into account

[deft pewter]

You get to blame your parents for that user error.

Didn't :q! soon enough.

[cedar chasm]

I always blame my parents; ungrateful shit that I am

[last cedar]

That is such an ungrateful thing to say 🤣

[cedar chasm]

At least I am partially self-aware

[last cedar]

I was joking ofc :)

[cedar chasm]

My joke was one of those half-jokes, as all jokes are 😄

[last cedar]

:D

[last cedar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/lordoftherings/comments/p6e5on/if_hobbits_were_trash_pandas/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[dusky plank]

is that a shaved racoon?

[last cedar]

Bald

Apparently

Cute/ nightmare fuel, depending what you are into

[lapis cipher]

i see nobody missed my raccoon..

[deft pewter]

You were gone?

[lapis cipher]

"thanks" 🤣

[deft pewter]

Kidding... I'm sure someone missed you.

[clever mortar]

My aim does suck

[lapis cipher]

yeah, i'm sure too, still searching for that person (or a malfunctioning bot..)

[deft pewter]

We have a malfunctioning bot already: #the-water-cooler message

[lapis cipher]

Is Tinkerer referring to my ever-bad shoots at the games? Well, can confirm its true, i still suck thought i just got myself previewed as "best player of the second half" with my kills 😄

[clever mortar]

I just have to open the aperture ... if you use a big enough blast radius then minor inaccuracy doesn't matter

[lapis cipher]

shoots, shots, i dunno

[deft pewter]

No... it's a play on 'someone missed you'.

He aimed for you... but he missed you.

[lapis cipher]

i am surely glad to see the level hasn't changed a bit, its all bad here still 😄

[clever mortar]

When you've already perfected something, why change
||That it's perfectly terrible doesn't matter||

[lapis cipher]

well, anyways, there is only so much time for everything, winter is all the time, summer.. not so much and it shows on many areas, discord in particular

[deft pewter]

Yeah, the Great Summer Brain Drain.

Could've done with you around. Most questions have gone unanswered.

[lapis cipher]

Now come on, that's a bit too much and too obvious, could have used just "welcome back" or such 😄 😄

Sure, i tried when nobody else would, at times i succeeded to satisfy customer needs, at times i didn't, tried to not say anything when i really don't know about the things

[subtle pasture]

Pretty sure the humor here is lost on me because exposing one's self doesn't actually reveal one's gender 🤷‍♀️

The blue sign in the background works, though. lol

[lapis cipher]

umm but is it offending? sorry, as a non-native with english there are sayings that require some extra translation for the actual meaning (yeah, i googled)

(lost on me -part)

[subtle pasture]

The meme? I wouldn't call it offensive. It's just that the nudity is, at best, pointless.

Unrelated: Are there more racoon avatars here than usual, or is it just me? 🤔

[static schooner]

they were raccoons the whole time, they're just reverting to native form

[lapis cipher]

i havent't change my avatar for 6+ months but i wasn't the first, i would blame Michelle for starting it all up

let me play one game and come back in a moment again rant here how bad it went, "just like in the good old times"... ->

[deft pewter]

I get where you're coming from but to the vast majority of folk, which equipment you come with is your gender. Yes, we should all be accepting of others and their lifestyle choices... but I don't agree that any minority should get to decide how a majority acts if it's not harming anyone (which it seems we agree that joke didn't).

As an extreme example... I'm probably in the minority when I think that most people should go jump off a bridge. Doesn't mean they should actually do it.

But folk here are pretty good at either respecting or staying out of the lives of others, so I'll leave it at that.

But now for something that'll probably get me banned by Tinkerer...

I'm drinking whiskey and ginger ale.

[clever mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/animal-crazy-psycho-psychotic-insane-gif-11683683

[deft pewter]

😂

If it makes you feel better, it's not real whiskey. It's some of that American shit.

[clever mortar]

Oh, well, in that case ...

https://tenor.com/view/alright-carry-on-continue-resume-keep-going-gif-16771637

[deft pewter]

It's actually quite refreshing. Bulleit bourbon and 'full fat' ginger ale.

[clever mortar]

I have been known to mix Whisky blends and Whiskey with other things... though a rusty nail is pretty awesome with a decent malt

[deft pewter]

Whisky blends and Whiskey
Mixing Irish and Scottish? 🤢

I don't think I have any Drambuie. Will have to get some in to try that.

Oh, nice... honey, herbs and spices? Reminds me of Benedictine, which I absolutely adore.

[clever mortar]

Whisky == the good stuff
Whiskey == everybody else's attempt

[deft pewter]

I can never remember which one's which, only that the names are from those two countries 😄

You ever tried Glayva?

[clever mortar]

Yes

I have a limited edition bottle in the cupboard 😄

[deft pewter]

Saving it for a special occasion?

[lapis cipher]

"its for when i retire" (goes checking calendar... "i will never retire"..)

[clever mortar]

I have a growing collection of limited edition bottles, and non-limited edition bottles. I seem to gather them a lot faster than I drink them.

[tidal bronze]

🤔

[deft pewter]

It's tasty. Shut up.

[clever mortar]

My gran would drink Whiskey and Cola... I can't judge

[deft pewter]

Your gran was a monster.

[tidal bronze]

There's no whiskey 'and'

[deft pewter]

Sure there is. My favourite cocktails are whiskey-based.

[clever mortar]

You clearly met her then

[tidal bronze]

Bad whiskey needs 'and'

[deft pewter]

I don't mind whiskey neat. I just prefer a longer drink most times.

[clever mortar]

The nicest cocktail I ever had was Whisky, vodka, Crème de menthe, and various other things. I don't remember what it was, and the bartender basically made it up on the spot on a whim... I had a few of them and that pretty much wrote off the evening

[deft pewter]

Not that I have them any weaker... not many of the cocktails I like have mixers 😂

Mint and whiskey? 🤢

[tidal bronze]

Yikes

[clever mortar]

It worked really well. I think there was some ice cream in there too

[tidal bronze]

Oh boy

[clever mortar]

Went down smooth, and turned my legs to jelly

Or at least the three, I think, of them did

[tidal bronze]

Bourbon 🙄

[deft pewter]

I usually stick with Negronis or Manhattans. Should get some soda water in for Old Fashioneds.

[tidal bronze]

Even with ginger ale that's a tough one to swallow

[deft pewter]

You mean bourbons? What's wrong with them? I thought you'd be defending your inferior spirits.

[tidal bronze]

Never had and don't intend to. Speyside or Isle and that's about it.

[deft pewter]

Islay 😄

[clever mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/so-close-so-close-seth-meyers-late-night-with-seth-meyers-almost-nearly-gif-20031900

[tidal bronze]

Too close.

[deft pewter]

To be fair, he could probably pronounce it almost right if that's how he thinks it's spelled 😄

[tidal bronze]

Had to watch 15 videos to know how to say the names of the shit that tastes good.

[deft pewter]

So... [ˈaɪlə] or [ˈiːlə]?

[tidal bronze]

By the time you say the names can't taste anything since the tongue rolls into numbness

[clever mortar]

Can I have another of the good tasting shit please 🤔

[tidal bronze]

Only thing I need to know is Laphroaig and Lagavulin

[static schooner]

like licking an ashtray

[tidal bronze]

No Pete no go

[static schooner]

Costco always has some Lagavulin 16 onhand, finally gave away the one bottle I bought

[deft pewter]

I don't know which ashtrays you've been licking 😄

[static schooner]

just really not a fan of the smokiness

[tidal bronze]

aberlour a'bunadh would be a close 2nd

[deft pewter]

Bless you

[tidal bronze]

Was planning to visit Laphroaig in 2 weeks but we are in the orange list 🙄

[clever mortar]

If you like smokey try Smokehead

[tidal bronze]

Gotta try it out. Not available here.

[brisk glen]

Can’t believe my repair was a success on this old laptop… now I can update it to the last supported macOS… for the firmware updates and then shove windows 10 on there

Fuck the 100+ screws

[deft pewter]

I remember the last time I reassembled a laptop. I ended up with spare screws

[brisk glen]

Lol

I had… to gut the entire thing before I could get to the keyboard

[deft pewter]

Yeah, it's a pain how well secured everything is. Layers and layers of stuff before you get to the one thing you want.

[brisk glen]

Keyboard alone is… 68 screws

At least I only need to remove the back plate and 3 internal screws on HP laptops to replace the keyboards

You just poke them out through the keyboard poke it hole

[deft pewter]

I love a good game of pokey pokey hole.

[dull chasm]

@deft pewter dang we agree on something ...about floored me

[deft pewter]

Yeah, but you just mean driving piles or some other weird farm shit 😂

[dull chasm]

no the equipment remark ...and minority not forcing majority ... be respectfully and caring but it is what it is

[deft pewter]

I guess that's the idea, right? We're all different but we don't need to be dicks to each other.

[sudden sleet]

whenever i have to update hassio https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613764252913631366/877663494009413642/2e3d3415c81dc5c5.mp4

[deft pewter]

There's no 'hassio' and updating HA is simple.

[sudden sleet]

for some reason it takes 2 or 3 tries in my pi

[deft pewter]

If you have trouble with it, try a support channel.

[sudden sleet]

nah i only update it like every 3 months anyway

[static schooner]

68 screws is better than a thick layer of glue when it comes to disassembly 🙂

[deft pewter]

A quick rinse with H2SO4 and it'll come away easy.

[dusky plank]

googling that stuff will get me on a surveillance list 😄

[hearty shell]

hi everyone, anyone has problem with fas.com sensor?

mine is stuck with the same data for days

[young sigil]

Updating three versions at once is probably half your issue. Three versions of breaking changes is a lot to deal with.

[sudden sleet]

maybe, idunno, i just wanted to turn my opsie into something funny

but apparently i failed

[subtle pasture]

I feel your pain on that one. I recently tried to upgrade HomeAssistant OS on my Pi 3, and discovered that any version newer than hassos 4.19 would fail to boot.

Upgraded to a Pi4, which is now running the latest version without a hitch.

[sudden sleet]

ye i only update when the power consumption sensors start getting iffy, really. which is around like 3 months. This because I only use basic stuff like lights and such so no human interaction at all for the whole time

but the point was just to try to make someone giggle, really.

wasnt trying to complain or diss

[glass sky]

Hello everyone, My HA in a R-Pi4 with a microSD card just crash after 1.5 Yrs, So, now I want to try on an external USB SSD (240Gb), with microSD I use the etcher, but what I will do with the SSD? Thanks!!

[dim blade]

You could probably still use etcher, rufus or even the official Pi Imaging tool.

[inner lava]

Company got Starlink for backup purposes, speeds aint bad at all and that was just over WiFi from phone with a thick wall in between

[last cedar]

Pretty damn respectable tbh

@inner lava

[deft pewter]

That ping 😂

[clever mortar]

I've seen worse

[last cedar]

300ms on dialup, not bad at all

[glacial knot]

I'm already annoyed by may way too high 19ms

First node outside my net is over 10ms away. I suspect that docsis is just not made for low latencies :/

[deft pewter]

Anything around 20 is fine. You couldn't tell the difference if it was any lower.

[low harness]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eyFDBPk4Yw

[mystic kraken]

my obs setup so far

[lyric birch]

Why there is TV?

[static schooner]

The people need entertainment?

[hushed basalt]

Try living 4000km away from the nearest aws/gcp data centre

Then you can talk to me about latency

[mystic kraken]

I have it set to automatically play the local news when it's on. Mostly interested in the weather lol

[hushed basalt]

Weather channel is in the same spot

[deft pewter]

The super inflatable tit? 🤔

[static schooner]

Lol, wtf

[hushed basalt]

https://c.tenor.com/yu2mxxpbb7gAAAAM/back-to-the-future-michael-j-fox.gif

[mystic kraken]

Haha that's awesome. Glad I'm living in the future

[subtle pasture]

Dialup actually tends to have really good ping times, it's just low-bandwidth...

[dusky plank]

tvheadend is the bomb for tv>ip

[shy comet]

im a fan of tivimate, interface is real nice

[deft pewter]

Is that another way to view TPB/Usenet?

[shy comet]

iptv

[opaque girder]

I knew firefighting helicopter/plane pilots have skills but this is some next level shit I've seen

[wet pilot]

some of them have buckets they fill from nearby lakes

that's all sorts of nope from me

[opaque girder]

we have those too

they are more like made out of something soft that then expands when filled with water and shuts off

I've seen them fill up they are definitely not a set shape

the one above apparently is made for carrying shipping containers or sth I was told

[wet pilot]

still, the thought of intentionally grounding a part attached to an aircraft just screams "wrong" to me

yeah, it has the shape for it

[opaque girder]

so imagine the canadair planes that come down to take water often in close proximity 😅

[wet pilot]

hahaha

[opaque girder]

just hope they finally manage to put out the fire

3 days now burning 😔

other side of the mountain from where I am

[dusky plank]

our fire fighters are mainly in north macedonia and greece now

[opaque girder]

Saw some pictures of Australian helicopters as well in our area

[deft pewter]

Were they flying upside down?

[opaque girder]

I thought they looked off

wait a minute???

[deft pewter]

Wait a wee minute, ye scoundrel

🥃

[opaque girder]

trying to pass for a scots will never work

[deft pewter]

Yer ma's yer da

[wet pilot]

Lol

[forest edge]

well now we know what you all do when you get bored

[deft pewter]

🤪

Managed to make a mess of my face while wet shaving today for the first time in... months.

Not used to wielding that claymore.

[wet pilot]

I guess you aren't the one

[velvet horizon]

There can be only one.

Command '.raccoon' was invoked by: mono

[wet pilot]

I'm not committed enough to change my pfp

[deft pewter]

Slacker.

[forest edge]

so now phnx has Infectious mononucleosis

[deft pewter]

Well this is interesting: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/08/onlyfans-bans-sexually-explicit-content-to-appease-banks-and-payment-services/

They're banning, what... 99% of their content?

[wet pilot]

Definitely a large majority depending on what their final rules end up being

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze https://www.clipartmax.com/png/small/35-356792_view-samegoogleiqdbsaucenao-b7d-think-emoji.png

[tidal bronze]

That's too much thinking

[static schooner]

Thinkception

[hushed basalt]

Poor atx, he'll lose his revenue stream

[restive vapor]

Is using hass for minecraft and tracking my phone battery seem too overpowered

[dusky plank]

nah its fine, just leave your display on all the time

[halcyon umbra]

The ultimate evolution of Home Assistant.

[glacial knot]

For a moment I was confused by tinkerer’s colour

[ornate gulch]

should I be concerned? lol

my fire tablet might actually light on fire

[glacial knot]

living room fire 😅

[last cedar]

174F is way too hot

[deft pewter]

We don't judge people on their colour here.

[glacial knot]

I do know that some here do
At least for the background colour of others discord clients

[glacial knot]

Though I do judge people by the units they use

[deft pewter]

SI or bust.

[hushed basalt]

How many Mustangs to a big mac?

[restive vapor]

Instead of using home assistant to automate real word task, I also connected it to minecraft in game

[deft pewter]

No sexism please

You go to gulag.

Dr T! I'm shocked! 😱

[mystic kraken]

They funded my home assistant hobby lol

[silent nexus]

@proven spruce
#general-archived message
Has that left beta?

[proven spruce]

no clue but i can use it

[silent nexus]

How's it working for you?

[proven spruce]

doesn't know what i want like google 😆

[brisk glen]

What beta?

[deft pewter]

https://search.brave.com/ presumably.

[silent nexus]

Brave search beta, I used a message link so we weren't talking in a support channel.

[brisk glen]

Oh brave…

Didn’t they inject ads for a time?

[silent nexus]

I've been using brave for a while, the only ads I get are the ones I consented to because they weren't obtrusive.

[last cedar]

Can I get the "badtelcotech" purple then please. It is amazeballs 🤣

[glacial knot]

Can I be yellow? Just so it looks horrible on both brightness modes?

[deft pewter]

Yellow = server admin. Unlikely 😄

[glacial knot]

Ah, gosh

Magenta then

[static schooner]

I think ‘puke color’ is available

[glacial knot]

Sounds good

[last cedar]

Purple!!!!!!!!!!

[static schooner]

Seems like you’d want striped

[last cedar]

Ideally yes

But discord is what it is

Raccoon discriminating discord

[twin anchor]

How does home assistant discover different smart services and devices on my network?

[deft pewter]

Using #integrations-archived

[twin anchor]

I’m working on a nest hub like device for my friend and want to automatically discover smart devices like in the setup process in home assistant. Is there a good way to do this without getting api keys for individual lights/hubs? I want the software on the device to automatically discover all smart things on their network.

[clever mortar]

There's a channel called #integrations-archived

The answer would be for your device to support something like SSDP, but that's not for this channel

[twin anchor]

Thank you

[deft pewter]

You're welcome

[dusky plank]

bruh playstation is a lifesaver

friend passed out, I could hear him having trouble and called the ambulance

[clever mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/colin-mochrie-whos-awesome-you-are-whos-line-isit-anyway-you-are-awesome-gif-11655828

[tidal bronze]

What's the latest pi out there and any model that supports nvme boot ?

[subtle pasture]

Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 supports native NVMe boot

Needs a carrier board with an m.2 slot, though

[tidal bronze]

Thank you 👍

[forest edge]

looking to upgrade?

[tidal bronze]

Yep HA is struggling with Pi2

[forest edge]

you need HA lite

[tidal bronze]

Dude you made me drop my pretzels 😠

[forest edge]

lol

[subtle pasture]

I will say, a regular Pi 4B with a USB to NVMe adapter, or USB to SATA adapter, will also perform just fine.

Just make sure the adapter supports UASP mode for the fastest possible USB 3.0 storage.

It'll significantly outperform a MicroSD card

[tidal bronze]

This is going in extreme wx conditions outdoor. Out in nowhere

[forest edge]

then why nvme? that's a horrible idea lol

[tidal bronze]

Need to run 3 to 4 years

[subtle pasture]

Why would NVMe be a horrible idea?

[forest edge]

this for HA?

NVME generates heat

[subtle pasture]

So do SATA SSDs

[forest edge]

not as much

[subtle pasture]

So does the Pi's SoC

[tidal bronze]

You crazy ? Why on earth would I run HA on a pi.

[subtle pasture]

I've had SATA m.2 SSDs get hotter than NVMe ones...

[forest edge]

and I wasn't suggesting ssd lol

you need something with emmc

[subtle pasture]

I mean, if you want emmc, the answer is still "Pi Compute Module 4"

emmc is available on a number of its models

[tidal bronze]

Looking for least power consumption as well. It's been a while since I messed with Pi

[forest edge]

they make orange pi's or whatever with built in emmc

depends on what you are using this for lol

[subtle pasture]

@forest edge Still haven't had great luck actually using Orange Pi's or Rock Pi's... there's very little support for them...

[forest edge]

depends on what he's using it for. he hasn't said

he's mysterio the cali leaf eater

[subtle pasture]

No, I mean, good luck running the latest mainline Linux kernel on an Orange Pi and having all the hardware even work. lol

[forest edge]

can't be that bad lol

[subtle pasture]

But if you don't mind running old distros, I guess they're fine...

[forest edge]

go with the CHIP lmao

[tidal bronze]

Transfer some gateway data from pore pressure transducers

[forest edge]

so need wifi/lan

[tidal bronze]

Just lan

[forest edge]

there is certainly an orange pi that can accommodate that.

[tidal bronze]

Found my pretzels 😄 I was so mad looking at my gin without the pretzels

Will do some digging 👌 orange pi huh

[forest edge]

look up banana pi as well

one of them had nothing but a lan and emmc with like 1g of ram.. was a tiny thing single purpose. should do the one job you want it to do

[subtle pasture]

How much RAM and storage do you need, anyway?

[tidal bronze]

Not much. Txt to mqtt and gpio to mqtt

No need to retain anything.

[subtle pasture]

https://www.canakit.com/raspberry-pi-compute-module-cm4.html
https://www.dfrobot.com/product-2196.html
Not a bad combo, tbh ^

emmc storage and a minimal carrier board with ethernet 🤷‍♀️

[forest edge]

you know all the previous pi's can boot off a emmc to sdcard adapater

that be super cheap if you had a pi laying around already

[subtle pasture]

Not very well, no

I've had that not work more often than I've had it work

[forest edge]

but I think the orange pi's still suck less power

really?

[tidal bronze]

Lead time unknown @subtle pasture 🙄

[subtle pasture]

I've had MicroSD to emmc adapters work on the Pi 1 and Pi Zero, but never could get them working on the Pi 3 or 4

[tidal bronze]

Need about 20~30 any thoughts who would have stock ?

[forest edge]

well 4 i think is still sketchy but 3b+ and down it should work on all

[subtle pasture]

wtf are you even doing with them? lol

[forest edge]

20-30? ew

[subtle pasture]

Because this sounds like a job for an ESP8266, or ESP32, not a Pi

Waaay cheaper, more reliable, and less complicated

[tidal bronze]

Need to pull via ftp from a proprietary node

[subtle pasture]

No reason an ESP32 couldn't do that. Some of them even include a built-in ethernet port now

[forest edge]

yea

i agree sounding more esp territory

[subtle pasture]

https://www.digikey.com/catalog/en/partgroup/esp32-poe-development-boards/93557

ESP32 with onboard ethernet and PoE support ^

And it's Digikey, who are always good with bulk orders

[tidal bronze]

Pi easier / faster to deploy. Not worried about the cost.

[subtle pasture]

Eh? An ESP module is WAY faster to deploy O.o

You flash it and it does what you programmed it to do

There's no operating system to deal with. No Linux, no updates, no bootup

It just runs code

[tidal bronze]

Need ssh as well. Can't be dumb

[subtle pasture]

https://www.arduino.cc/reference/en/libraries/libssh-esp32/

[forest edge]

https://www.aliexpress.com/i/4000366124345.html

[subtle pasture]

You can SSH into an ESP32 with the appropriate library loaded onto it... see link above ^

[subtle pasture]

Even better, as long as you don't need PoE to power it.

[tidal bronze]

Zerotier runs on esp32?

[forest edge]

believe there is a poe one as well

you will have to do some manual work quad, but you can make them work perfectly. they would actually do a better job than x number of pi's

[subtle pasture]

This ^

[forest edge]

checks every box and then some. the ONLY downside is you will have to get everything to make one work, then clone that to all 29 others lol

[tidal bronze]

Ok let me look into it. As with anything it's always something that was supposed to be deployed 8 days ago 😀 thanks for all the insight, appreciate it much.

[forest edge]

if money is no problem and you don't want to do it, there are tons of people out there willing to do it for a penny

[subtle pasture]

I thought you just needed MQTT?

Throwing Tasmota on it will do that

[tidal bronze]

Lol. Zerotier is a must.

[dusky plank]

why?

[tidal bronze]

I wish I could say why

[subtle pasture]

I'm looking into ZeroTier, and... it looks like you only need one system to run it

All your sensors can be ESP modules

You don't need ZeroTier running on every module in the swarm

[dusky plank]

mqtt and tls? or yeah, just put them all on a switch and handle the data from there

[subtle pasture]

So one Pi and like 30 ESP modules, and you're golden 😛

[tidal bronze]

They are individual modems and gateways and multiple locations. ZT running at individual locations.

[forest edge]

why you gotta complicate this shit

[tidal bronze]

My life is complicated by default. So gotta pay it forward

[subtle pasture]

Can I just say, I'm not seeing the difference between a ZeroTier server and a VPN server...

Like, literally everything on their homepage is just describing various VPN configurations

[dusky plank]

https://github.com/martin-ger/MQTT_VPN
that is… interesting

[tidal bronze]

My goal is not to find what's best or what's most technologically savvy way .... 😆 meeting deadlines and getting stuff done with least effort is the goal.

[subtle pasture]

VPN over MQTT? That's... weird... the packet overhead would be atrocious

[brisk glen]

windows 10 or debian 11

hard to decide

[forest edge]

Husarnet

[dusky plank]

i imagine the likelihood of a pi failing in these 3 years being quite high… the other boards even higher maybe 😄

[forest edge]

really depends on a some stuff

[subtle pasture]

I'd say the same for a NUC, so... I guess buy some old military spec hardware?

[tidal bronze]

Not expecting not to fail. Looking for least trouble. Oh don't even go there about PIs failing. Lmao

[forest edge]

quad is just being difficult to the point he won't find anything lol

[tidal bronze]

Oh no nothing like that.

[brisk glen]

Pis are fine with proper drives

[forest edge]

esp is still your best bet

[tidal bronze]

Pi is the way to go for this.

[forest edge]

how hot do these areas get?

[brisk glen]

gah, linux or windows for my laptop

[subtle pasture]

For a laptop? Windows...

[dusky plank]

macos

[tidal bronze]

Last recorded temp 141f

[forest edge]

uh

[brisk glen]

windows = 4 more years of support

[forest edge]

yea, no pi

you need to make the esp work

[brisk glen]

@dusky plank macos will not run on this 2012 macbook pro

[forest edge]

pi zero may work in those temps

but no onboard emmc

[brisk glen]

windows 11 drops support for bios booting and no tpm

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge pi 3 was running there for last 3 years. 😆

[subtle pasture]

Yeah, those temps rule out ARM and x86 systems for the most part. You're going to need a microcontroller

[forest edge]

was it fan cooled?

[subtle pasture]

ATMegas are rated up to 85c

[forest edge]

141F ambient is fucking hot

[tidal bronze]

No mounted to aluminum heat sink. Pretty large box.

I never go by specs. That's for kids.

[subtle pasture]

Espressif ESP32 modules are rated to 125c

So yeah... they'll survive...

[brisk glen]

sounds like you need to steal the CPUS nasa uses

[dusky plank]

if you go with pi, use pi2 at most.
anything else produces a lot more heat on top of that and pi2 can handle all you need in this case

[forest edge]

isn't there a site where you can hire a programmer to do a job online? there use to be shit like that

[tidal bronze]

Trust me I am not worried about heat

[forest edge]

just pay some dork to do all the programming then slap that on some esp's

[dusky plank]

then make him responsible for fails

[tidal bronze]

Not an option due to **** reasons

[forest edge]

reasons?

it isn't anti-slavery

you got a dough, they got the need for green.. what more do you want

[tidal bronze]

Can't say it. Lol. Just not possible in the time frame

[forest edge]

your involved with some loan sharks aren't you

some dude in a jogging suit and sweat band is holding a gun to your head?

[tidal bronze]

Yep and me squeezing the Vin of a pore pressure transducer with all of my might.

[forest edge]

the only other thing i can think of is try and find you a wholesale of rpi1b's and some cooling fans lol

[brisk glen]

meh, linux and wine it is

[dusky plank]

why not also just attach LTE modules to the esp and ditch the vpn? you said money doesnt matter

[tidal bronze]

I have to piggyback on exiting infrastructure

[mental gust]

Hi guys can anybody help me ho I could watch Thee Hook up’s, Snazzy labs and LTT stream? The url in the tweet doesn’t look like it’s working https://twitter.com/snazzyq/status/1428745681385099268?s=21

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[forest edge]

you said a pi is already doing this job? for the last 3 years?

[tidal bronze]

Doing something else in a different zone.

[forest edge]

but it's running all the stuff you need?

all these "requirements" you are throwing about

[tidal bronze]

Hmmm running something else but almost yes. Runs ZT and all that shebang

[forest edge]

and it's running what for storage?

[dusky plank]

this is some dark site and air gapped systems level stuff 😅

[tidal bronze]

Microsd dies every year. But application runs mostly on memory. Some drive activity but minimal.

[brisk glen]

so use a dam external ssd?

issue solved?

[forest edge]

at this point, I would just clone that setup and then replace the sdcard with a emmc sd card adpater

[dusky plank]

lol, reminds me of my pi which has been running now for over four years in read-only without trouble 😅

[forest edge]

atleast it will be what you have just with better storage

[tidal bronze]

They are for 2 different things. Running 2 totally different sensor systems.

[forest edge]

check Hard Kernel for the sdcard emmc adapater. they come in diffrent size flavors

[dusky plank]

it‘s even underpowered with a crappy 1A power supply, doesn‘t die… the sd card may not even be writable at this point but it still runs and runs..

[forest edge]

lol

till power loss

[dusky plank]

it reboots every day

[forest edge]

hey just do network booting lol

[subtle pasture]

I mean, if you're really serious about running a lot of Pi's long-term... net-boot

[tidal bronze]

Wait for LTE modem ?

[forest edge]

?

[tidal bronze]

Only network is LTE modem

[forest edge]

believe it can be done

all these on the same network or does each connect to a diffrent modem?

[tidal bronze]

Different modem

[forest edge]

30 diffrent lte modems?

[tidal bronze]

Some areas LTE sucks

Yes.

[forest edge]

you really are trying to make this a pain lol

just go with the emmc adapater

[tidal bronze]

No pain this is real life. 🤣

[forest edge]

bulk buy ya some rpi1,2,3,3B

[dusky plank]

at this point I‘d just buy some tp link mini router (maybe they have some with SIM now too), put openwrt on them and use the serial port or usb on them for the esps

[forest edge]

at this point I would tell whoever you are doing this for to find someone else to deal with it

the esp is the hand down better long term solution for this project. using pi's is throwing away money and creating more e-waste lol

[tidal bronze]

What's e-waste ?

[forest edge]

what people call the shit you grow tired of after 2 years lol

[tidal bronze]

Oh now I get it.

I never understand how come there's shitty internet coverage in the middle of the country.

[forest edge]

"Johnson I need you to row boat up river 2 miles, climb the tallest tree you find, pluck an eagles egg, climb down the run back here with it... but before you go we need to tie your left arm behind your back and cast your feet in concrete.... and make it snappy"

[tidal bronze]

What smoke are you talking about? Crystal clear skies over KC. Just made up BS huh 🤔

[forest edge]

you talking about the smoke your state is spreading over the US?

I haven't looked lately to see if that is still happening

[tidal bronze]

Nothing to double check I can see clearly

[forest edge]

more interested in this geko or whatever is that is taking refuge in my garage since I decided to automate my garage ac unit lol

you flying over KC now? lemme grab my high power green laser

[tidal bronze]

Lol. Yep in the vicinity

Why not red ?

Honestly there's a thin layer of smoke. 🙄

You telling me all this is from west coast ?

[forest edge]

green blinds the pilots better

yea all of it

[tidal bronze]

Oops. Sorry.

[forest edge]

not just here, it reaches the east coast lol

your the only person in denial.. try watching the news

[tidal bronze]

If you can't see it, then it's not true right ? I don't see it, usually.

[forest edge]

so you don't believe air exsists?

i'll come fart in your face and you can tell me that since you don't see shit, it can't possibly be true

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-fart-meg-peter-gif-8122927

[tidal bronze]

You got some good selection of restaurants

[forest edge]

wait, your on the ground here?

there are some real gems around KC

if you are here you gotta try Joe's BBQ

just be weary of inner city people. people that live within KC limits are pretty delusional and bias

[tidal bronze]

No just did a Google maps search.

I will very soon through drop by just for food.

How about Eddie V's Prime Seafood

You mean Joe's KC bar B que right ?

[forest edge]

yea

there is only one Joe's.. two locations but only one place called Joe's

[tidal bronze]

3 locations. 4700 reviews and 4.7 🌟 right on 👍

Added to my to visit list.

[forest edge]

oh i guess another was added then lol

they actually do a deal with the Minsky's pizza places around here so every so often Minksys will have joe's bbq pizza

that is some omg good shit lol

[tidal bronze]

Will stop by next month time permitting. Damn so many good ones. I pick places on food nothing else.

You give me shit about plant stuff what about "Kind Food" WTH?

[forest edge]

if you like the upper class stuff McCormick & Schmick's on the plaza should be right up your ally

it's all fancy and stuff lol

use to be a place called the melting pot down there too that was neat. was all fondue style

not sure if that is still there or not

[tidal bronze]

The Tree Hugger Truck? Really GTS?

[forest edge]

there is a tree hugger truck?

I don't go into the city much so couldn't tell you anything about the food trucks

[tidal bronze]

I mean really?

[forest edge]

does it serve cali food?

i have been telling you i been seeing more and more cali plates here.. maybe someone started a new food truck lmao

[tidal bronze]

The Tree Hugger Truck
[phone]
https://maps.google.com/?cid=9780824907792649894&entry=gps

[forest edge]

https://www.thetreehuggertruck.com/

looks like one of your people have moved here to try and start a food truck lmao

[forest edge]

at least now you know when you get here you need to go tell them hello lol

[tidal bronze]

So all above from cali?

[forest edge]

how did you come to that conclusion

EAT FUD looks like a good candidate rotf

[tidal bronze]

canihaveabite only in KC 🤣

[forest edge]

I am sure there are some decent food trucks but you'll be too busy going to the actual places in buildings to have time for food trucks lol

KC and the surrounding area have more food options then just about anywhere. NY is the only place that beats us

hell just in my little area of the world there more food places then I have been able to eat at lol

and people wonder why amercians get fat

[tidal bronze]

More food places the better. Never enough.

[forest edge]

I think quality goes down with more

you would think more competition would strive to force better quality but I think all it does it force price drops and the inherit problem with low quality

[brisk glen]

flatpaks are amazing

[sand agate]

Did anyone else tune in to the Facebook live audio group with Linus Tech Tips, The Hook Up and Snazzy Labs?

[forest edge]

dear God no, why would anyone subject themselves willingly to that?

[glacial knot]

Sounds like a torture lab

[golden isle]

Hello,
Is it worth to use 2 *2 to hard drives(raid 0) as normal storage or better to go SSD ?

[deft pewter]

Yes

[golden isle]

Yes for first choice or second ? X)

Or both are more or less the same thing ?

[deft pewter]

They're totally different... and you haven't given any information about how they'll be used 🤷‍♂️

Boot drive for a personal PC? SSD. Media store? HDD's.

[golden isle]

I mean, normal storage, as for pictures videos etc (replacing my hard drive ) and keeping an nvme for gaming

Yhea pc, my bad

[deft pewter]

Personally, I wouldn't even bother with RAID. Just get a massive HDD and back things up to S3/Backblaze.

[golden isle]

Ah ?
I've got a personal server to store and backup my data, just thinking of what what would have the best price to speed ratio ... Or just eat the bullet and go for 2 TB nvme