the-water-cooler

[clear ferry]

[dull chasm]

@clear ferry so you are saying he is a mutt

[forest edge]

at least my immediate ancestors didn't come crawling out from the sea

[clear ferry]

[forest edge]

we know once a year you return to your forefathers in the depths to partake in the ritual of mating with the sea creatures

[clear ferry]

Yes father Dagon

And mother Hydra

[forest edge]

probably the only time of the year your back isn't hurting from hauling that frontal load

[dull chasm]

@clear ferry dont feel bad ....folks around @forest edge are trying to get the best hybird seeds

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/banjo-deliverance-sad-guitar-gif-14638613

[forest edge]

banjo's are more of a southren thing.. he's calling you out vasiley

[dull chasm]

thats ok .....we good

[clear ferry]

We are?

This is news to me

[static schooner]

Where’s that picture of the cat reaching out for a hug?

[deft pewter]

No-one knows. We need @winter wren for that.

[dull chasm]

@clear ferry i feel sad now

[forest edge]

he feeds on misery, why feed him?

[dull chasm]

the faces of comedy and tradegy ....i guess i fall victim ....dante said we would

[clear ferry]

Il purgatori

[dull chasm]

only 7 steps

[clear ferry]

That is here with @forest edge for sure

[deft pewter]

You're more cultured than I thought 🤔

[clear ferry]

He is a man of culture

[dull chasm]

really .... @deft pewter then you dont know me

[deft pewter]

Culture and banjos.

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/culture-man-of-culture-cultured-gif-10903367

[dull chasm]

@deft pewter go fig ..... i listen to baroque peiod opera and music too

[deft pewter]

You mean soft rock?

[dull chasm]

no like right before mozart .... but i think you know that

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-love-hi-bye-cat-gif-15999080

[deft pewter]

It doesn't count if it's not Adrian doing it.

And you gotta lead with a 'peace be with you'.

[static schooner]

It’s kinda creepy, but I cannot look away

[dull chasm]

@deft pewter no no .... you should say purcell leading the way ....

[deft pewter]

It was a joke at Sonoma's expense. He thinks everything is soft rock.

[clear ferry]

@static schooner ah, you have now become furry

[deft pewter]

Of course I know what Baroque is. It's the stage name of Dwayne Johnson.

[clear ferry]

It is an arc in one piece thank you

[static schooner]

Me right now

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/come-sit-bathroom-furry-bunny-seduce-gif-3419315

[deft pewter]

Oooo... https://nerdist.com/article/henry-cavill-highlander-remake/

[forest edge]

just soft rock that some euro's think is heavy metal or whatever

[deft pewter]

Does this count as heavy metal in your eyes? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

[forest edge]

maybe you thought it was opera

[deft pewter]

@dull chasm's the opera expert. What does he think?

[clear ferry]

I prefer space operas

[forest edge]

I would guess norwegian "space" opera would be something held in a closet

[deft pewter]

You and your twileks.

[forest edge]

jesus star citizen just put up non flyable ships for 3k a pop and they all sold out instantly

[deft pewter]

Whales gonna whale.

[glacial knot]

I’ve seen Highlander recently. It didn’t hold up well

[static schooner]

I will be happy to remember it as a drunk college student

[young sigil]

Are you sure you weren't watching that abomination of a sequel they made?

[glacial knot]

Pretty sure

[forest edge]

what do you mean it didn't hold up well

[clear ferry]

And it wasn't the German dub either?

[glacial knot]

It wasn't about the language either way

But the effects that kinda worked at the time now just look like jokes

[clear ferry]

So it was the German dub then

Damn Germans, dubbing everything

[glacial knot]

I actually don't know if it was. And don't really care

[forest edge]

alot of the special effects back then are still better than today's cgi in many cases

[glacial knot]

you clearly haven't seen that movie in a while

[forest edge]

it's a classic. don't need to https://youtu.be/POU08-vJZ_U

besides some of what you are complaining about is the transition between SD to HD. like how older consoles look like ass on newer tv's etc

[hushed basalt]

The resolution shouldn't matter but if they've interpreted it into say 48fps it'll look like garbage

The sound design on that scene is atrocious

Would be 10x better with new sound design

[clear ferry]

What do you mean? Dual mono is the newest tech in Sonoma county @hushed basalt

[hushed basalt]

It's more the foley

Swoosh swish ting ting

[clear ferry]

There is a 4k remaster from 2016

So that probably has remastered audio too

[hushed basalt]

Maybe

They would have to create it from scratch

Sometimes "remastered" just means upscaling and sound tweaking

[clear ferry]

Hard to tell without seeing it

It is PAL though

[hushed basalt]

I've never seen highlander though

[clear ferry]

[hushed basalt]

Better than NTSC

59.97Hz wtf

[clear ferry]

NTSC 🤢

[hushed basalt]

25/50hz. Just the way the germans intended it

[clear ferry]

DIN

[forest edge]

should get on board with the standard. oh wait your movies are crap nm you can keep them locked on your inferior stuff

and it's more than just resolution that makes them look like crap

[clear ferry]

Turn on the TV first so you don't see your own reflection then

[hushed basalt]

Snap

[forest edge]

lol he finally admit in his country CRT's are still king

[clear ferry]

Because flat panels don't have reflections

[forest edge]

mine don't

[hushed basalt]

Shooting films in 25 and sports/events in 50 is fantastic

[forest edge]

as i said, inferior stuff

[hushed basalt]

None of this pulldown crap

24 frames into 60, gross do the math on that

[forest edge]

i dunno about you but there is no converting for that here as far as I know

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/math-calculate-confusing-figure-out-gif-6237717

[forest edge]

I guess if someone was watching a rugby game

NTSC is the standard. pretty much only europe and other countries who don't even produce stuff use something else and even then some part of europe use thier own that isn't compatible with PAL if i remember right lol

[clever mortar]

SECAM

[forest edge]

thats it

[hushed basalt]

Pal and NTSC don't really exist anymore anyways

The only major relevant stuff today is fps,

They're color encoding standards for analog televisions

[forest edge]

ATSC or whatever it is

not worried about the techs of all of that cause (arrogantly) I live in the country that pretty much defines the standard for everything worth watching (for now at least)

I cannot buy a tv that won't work as expected nor do I have to worry about any current tv I have not working.. that last bit is part of the problem in terms of progression unfortunately

[hushed basalt]

Bloody ISP

They notified me of a planned outage a week ago for this morning with a window of 4-5am

[clear ferry]

Lulz outages

What is this, middle murica @hushed basalt ?

[hushed basalt]

Internet went down at 4:07am and went back up at 4:27am

That's 40 minutes of downtime I'm robbed off

I want a refund

[clear ferry]

Uptime you mean

[hushed basalt]

No, if you plan an outage you should leave customers off for as long as possible

Because following the plan is the most important thing

Hmm maybe I've been in enterprise too long

[clear ferry]

We actually have an always on guarantee, if fiber goes down we get refunded per started hour, and if we have mobile subscription from the same vendor as fiber we get free mobile broadband for the period, with unlimited data transfer

[hushed basalt]

Lol service level agreements for customers

[clear ferry]

I've only had about an hour of downtime the last 7 years though

[hushed basalt]

If they cut you off for 3 months you have to fight for that

[clear ferry]

Because someone dug up a cable

I want the other vendor to come here though

So I can get 1000/1000 for $50

I saw something lulz the other day

Let me see if I can find it

He had downloaded 3.5TB the last month or something

https://tenor.com/view/make-america-great-again-i-cant-hear-you-trump-freedom-murica-gif-7709812

That does state upload though, which is even more lulz

But I guess he seeded too

[glacial knot]

*uploaded

[clear ferry]

Brb pay for something I'm not allowed to use 24/7

[glacial knot]

series of straws 😄

[clear ferry]

His network speed was a whopping 700/35 too

So daym filling that 35Mbit connection

[glacial knot]

gotta be hurting pretty bad with that kind of speed

but if we ask D-Telekom, that's clearly more than 3 households need

[clear ferry]

Lulz

Apparently the average internet household internet speed here was 150Mbit in 2019, median 82.5

But it says nothing about upload speed

Just download speed from the census

[forest edge]

Cox is Comcast which is the devil. They are trying like hell to put data caps on their customers but everyone is fighting them even at the law level

the whole monopoly thing on providers is certainly losing it's grip compared to what it use to be like but rural areas are and will remain fucked for quite some time

[hushed basalt]

I have 100/40 and I'm lucky

Some people can't even get 25/5

[clear ferry]

Y'all third world countries

[hushed basalt]

Hey hey hey

We spent an undetermined amount of $65-$165b and 10 years on this network

And I'll have you know it's performing very well

At funnelling public funds to our Cayman island accounts.

[clear ferry]

[hushed basalt]

Oh you mean you measure peformance by how it meets the stakeholders needs

[forest edge]

thats sad cause you guys like norway jumped straight to fiber

it's like your whole infrastructure just took a long pause

I say that but in reality here unless you live in a city with x+ amount of population you are pretty screwed

[dawn prawn]

Australian?

[hushed basalt]

Yah

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-knifey-spooney-australia-bart-simpson-crocodile-dundee-gif-12120887

John Mellenkamp - Spoken Words was a pretty good show

[dusky plank]

classic @midnight adder

[forest edge]

rotf

that would be one dead duck in my house if it did that

[hearty depot]

Mhmm.. fire duck

[forest edge]

do not watch this if you hadn't already seen it and want to but this is fucking hilariously accurate https://youtu.be/TC1LiBBkDdo

[clear ferry]

Nice, migrated to mirrored lvm for my mini docker host

I should have had two truenas boxes so I could run cross system lvm

[last cedar]

You thinking a pair of scale systems is a good idea? @clear ferry

[clear ferry]

Well yes, for redundancy it makes sense, with zfs sync

[last cedar]

Can you run a backup of only specific shares? Cold spare of tv shows is more than enough for me. But a hot spare of important data would be super useful

[clear ferry]

Yes

You can sync any dataset

So the second box only needs to be as big as what you need to keep synced

Asynchronous preferably

And incremental

[last cedar]

Yeah. Question is

With nas disks, and scrubs etc, should a backup box be left running 24/7 or only online to do backups? Potential lightning protection if unplugged

[young sigil]

I had not watched it and now I'm not going to. Sounds like a complete load of shite.

[clear ferry]

Always on @last cedar

Cold backups are the next layer

[clear ferry]

I recommend getting kids, I had to disassemble my dishwasher yesterday to remove a rubber band on the drain motor

Good exercise to get familiar with the dishwasher

[deft pewter]

It was entertaining... you just have to be able to ignore the fact that it's a Snyder film

[young sigil]

I took my heat pump indoor unit apart today to install a wifi card. All I found was spider eggs.

[deft pewter]

Burn it.

[young sigil]

Don't be an environmental vandal. Very few people realise the Australian top soil is composed nearly entirely of spider eggs.

[clear ferry]

I disassembled one of my heat pumps a few months ago to clean it

Surprisingly simple

[young sigil]

Yeah once you realise where the screws are hidden.

[deft pewter]

That was pretty accurate. I didn't notice the glowing eyes though.

[clear ferry]

That is why you read the service manual

Thank you Google

[young sigil]

Yeah I found a similar one.

[clear ferry]

Getting my third heat pump installed next week probably

[young sigil]

I'm getting ducted.

Signed the contract today.

[clear ferry]

Murica style

[young sigil]

Easy to import into HA as a climate device except I'll have to add my own ESPHome servos on the dampers.

[clear ferry]

I was supposed to help a friend make his 80s duct system smart

Then covid happened

[young sigil]

ESP IR climate device? Or is there an integration for it?

[clear ferry]

Nah, I was going to add WiFi controlled dampers

And do automations

[hearty depot]

Lol, there is en entire subreddit for grilled cheese sandwiches..
https://scrolller.com/r/grilledcheese
Be horny for grilled cheese sandwiches with me

[dawn prawn]

I put Mitsubishi reverse cycle bulk head units throughout our place in December, coupled with their wifi controllers they’ve been flawless in HA

[dawn prawn]

I guess this is the one thing I have to be thankful for about inner city living

[young sigil]

How many bulkhead units can you connect to the one outdoor unit?

[dawn prawn]

I’ve got 4 on the one unit. I think if you need more they just get a larger and more powerful outdoor unit.

[young sigil]

And each individual bulkhead gets it's own wifi controller?

[dawn prawn]

Yep and individual remote if you need to pass the house on to normies

The app for those wifi controllers is absolute garbage - thankfully HA circumnavigates it and just uses the API

[young sigil]

I can't find the Mitsubishi integration?

MELCloud? Could polling? Thant's a hard no.

[clear ferry]

Just get Samsung and use my integration@young sigil

[young sigil]

Your integration?

[dawn prawn]

Sorry, they use Intesis Home

Samsung aircon? Wouldn’t trust that in our harsh climate. MHI or Daikin all the way

[young sigil]

Yeah Daikin is the ducted system I'm going with.

[dawn prawn]

That was the other option for us but their installer wanted something ridiculous for the install

Was almost half the price to go with MHI

[young sigil]

The one it is replacing is a 20 yo Daikin that hasn't been serviced for the last 8 years while I've owned it. Still going strong, if a bit noisy and undersized.

[dawn prawn]

Nice - split system or swampie?

[young sigil]

Split

[dawn prawn]

My parents just replaced their 31 yo swampie and put a gas ducted heating system in too. Now it’s actually comfortable in their home, unlike when I was growing up and used to freeze during winter at the far end of the house

[young sigil]

No one uses swamp coolers here. It's all split systems. Mostly for reverse cycle heating with a few days of cooling in summer.

[dawn prawn]

Tassie?

All reverse cycle here too, my parents live in a low humidity dry area so the swampie is perfect

[clear ferry]

@young sigil https://github.com/atxbyea/samsungrac

[young sigil]

Yeah.

[dawn prawn]

Gods country

Was looking at a farm out of Sheffield there last year

[young sigil]

Noice.

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-it-racoon-bite-racoon-gif-13018632

[static schooner]

Raccoons gotta raccoon

[last cedar]

CHOMP

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-stewart-mild-shock-shocked-shock-mild-gif-5292523

[vague ginkgo]

This isn't quite completely off topic, so excuse me if I'm in the wrong place 😅 But my video doorbell blew up, And I'm now in the market for a replacement, anyone have a recommendation?

Obviously local control is preferred, But reliability is of utmost importance.

I'm just now starting my search, And you guys were the first place I thought to check with 😁 going to go jump on YouTube and see if I can't find any good recommendations there too

See attached: Chip on the motherboard of doorbell is exploded

[green inlet]

#hardware-archived but I love my nest

[clear ferry]

Xiaomi zigbee switch, and Poe camera, $25 fully local

[vague ginkgo]

I don't think I'm ready to jump into zigbee yet, but that is tempting...

[last cedar]

That looks like a raccoon bite

🦝

[clear ferry]

I love watching Gino in Italy with his white pebble bitches and a bitt of piss and quiet

[deft pewter]

I wanta fock on the tayble

I wanta shiiit on the bed

[clear ferry]

[deft pewter]

Can't remember which skit that's from. Someone mocking the Italian accent.

[clear ferry]

No, I think it was mocking Chinese accent

At least it was the first time I heard it in school

25 years ago

[deft pewter]

This is the one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtvDCiHfYQ0

[real frigate]

@last cedar You need to tell these guys to knock it off 😄

[heavy orchid]

Nice cam @real frigate whats the camera type?

[real frigate]

Reolink 520

I actually scaled that down to 720p. Normally all my recordings are in 4K.

[glacial knot]

Tell michelle to come and pick up his friends

[heavy orchid]

It looks very good, thnx for reply

[deft pewter]

Michelle isn't French, so I don't think they're a guy...

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-men-dont-wear-plaid-steve-martin-carlos-carl-reiner-reni-santoni-gif-21659667

[real frigate]

Him, her, it, they... I just want to point out that the damn raccoons are getting annoying. LOL

[deft pewter]

There can never be enough raccoons.

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-cherries-family-family-odf-raccoon-gif-15617159

Ok, that's trippy...

[real frigate]

Meh, my wife thinks they're cute. No, that's wrong. Just WRONG!

[deft pewter]

From all the gifs I've seen, I think they're funny. They're smart and dumb at the same time and seem to have personalities.

[real frigate]

Mostly because they never stay in trees. 😉

These two do. They've been coming around here for years now. My wife has pics of them when they were cubs? Babies? I don't know what baby raccoons are called.

[static schooner]

demon spawn

[real frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/this-up-gif-8606566

[clear ferry]

I should get back to posting butcher GIFs instead of raccoons you say

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-the-boys-series-amazon-tv-butcher-tea-gif-15734012

[last cedar]

They look to be having a great time though!

[deft pewter]

Looks like I finally got accepted for a product test 🎉

Got a Yale smart lock arriving tomorrow

200 quid product that I probably would've bought anyway.

[real frigate]

LOL @last cedar You say fun... I say wanton destruction... 😉

[deft pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/theyre-the-same-picture-the-office-pam-the-office-us-gif-20757621

[real frigate]

LOL

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/thewontons-gasp-all-new-gif-14723914

[real frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/space-astronaut-car-gif-11009871

[last cedar]

This is equal parts ooof and lol. Love it

[dusky plank]

dadjoke territory

[last cedar]

Yesssss

[real frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/dad-jokes-activated-gif-8303269

My kid told me that since he's an adult now, I'm to immediately cease and desist from sending him dad jokes.

Sooooo I created a routine to randomly find a dad joke from the 'net and messages it to him. It seemed like a challenge to me.

[last cedar]

He will require material too

Perhaps

So best to start stocking up

[real frigate]

LOL not my kid. He swears he's waiting until I'm too old to be sarcastic before he has kids (and yes, these are real conversations that we have).

[deft pewter]

Kids 🤢 I'd rather have pet raccoons.

[real frigate]

I have some I can send you.

[clear ferry]

I can recommend children

[deft pewter]

Always gotta have that raw meat handy.

[static schooner]

just enough to keep the raccoons busy while you run away

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/skinner-up-yours-children-simpsons-gif-10881151

[glacial knot]

are those norwegian racoons?

[last cedar]

I would take any raccoon tbh. Even a Norwegian one

[glacial knot]

grilled or raw?

[clever mortar]

Deep fried surely

[clear ferry]

That would be a Scottish one

Norwegian one would be electric and hydro powered

With salad

[clever mortar]

Scottish would be deep fried in batter, please

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/hand-drill-mixer-failarmy-baking-mixing-batter-spilled-batter-gif-18863154

[deft pewter]

Filled with Mars bars and deep fried in batter.

Have you eaten a deep-fried Mars bar, Tinkerer?

[static schooner]

that looks like some weirdo toilet

[clever mortar]

No, but I did used to enjoy pizza crunch

[green inlet]

Any chance you want to share that.....I would love to use it on my kids

[last cedar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/gadgets/comments/nk04yr/groundbreaking_smart_toilet_takes_photos_of_poo/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

What a load of shit

[real frigate]

https://pypi.org/project/dadjokes-plus-plus/ (If you're OK with Python) 🙂

I have it setup as a service in HA that then calls a notify service (Slack) (which I refuse to take my son out of lol).

Although... now I have an even better idea... random intervals when he's here at the house and have them spoken through TTS on various speakers... Holy shit, I'm evil. lmfao

[green inlet]

I don’t do Python...maybe I can figure it out. I have sms groups setup for my kids depending on whose home and who is not

[real frigate]

It's super simple. They have an API that you use in a RESTful sensor as well: https://icanhazdadjoke.com/api

[deft pewter]

Why not set up a lambda function that just does it all the time?

I have a snarky bot on reddit that just runs on a scheduled basis on AWS Lambda.

It's got way more karma than me. https://www.reddit.com/user/RatedCommentBot/

Looks like it's stopped posting. Not sure if it's banned 😂

[real frigate]

I thought about setting it up on aws, but then I was like... I want it local in case I REALLY want to annoy him.

[deft pewter]

I like the idea of automating it when he's there. You just going to do presence detection based on his phone?

[real frigate]

Yeah, he has his own user in HA so that when we go out of town, the house wakes up for him to take care of the dogs.

Hmmmm now I wonder if there's a way to get EventBridge to do random intervals to fire off a lambda... Damn you mono! lol

[deft pewter]

With how cheap lambdas are, you could always have them fire on an interval but then do a 'dice roll' to decide whether to do anything or not.

I think you get something like a million executions for free per month.

[real frigate]

Oh yeah, I'm not worried about that. I have my own personal paid plan... I'm just trying to figure out the best way to automate the interval completely within the AWS environment. I know I can do crons through event-bridge, I just want to see if I can randomize those to kick off the lambda randomly. Maybe I'll just throw a python script up on an ec2.

[deft pewter]

🤢

I know EC2's have their uses but I hate provisioning a server for something that can be done serverless.

Though I'm probably scarred from supporting a shitty legacy application across something like 20 EC2's per region.

They keep having to scale them up for load... instead of using a fucking Lambda/Step setup that scales automatically 🤦‍♂️

[real frigate]

Yeah, SAME. For work, we're in the middle of migrating ~200 crons running across 12 different EC2 into lambda/event-bridge.

[deft pewter]

Would EventBridge work for responding to S3 resources being created? My senior dev set something up with CloudTrail instead, which felt like the wrong tool for the job - especially seeing as there's a 5 trail per region hard limit.

Gah. From the docs, it looks like the only way it can tell what's happened with S3 is... via CloudTrail 🤢

[real frigate]

No, but you can trigger lambdas directly from S3 object creation.

[deft pewter]

Yeah, should've done that.

[real frigate]

Actually, I take it back... Yes, event-bridge CAN trigger off of S3 events:

But... It utilizes cloud-trail for that. LOL

We have a few of our lambdas directly triggering off of S3 object creation though... Super easy and best part is that you (thanks for helping me with that) can define the triggers in cloud-formation.

[deft pewter]

Did you have to do it manually though since the buckets already existed? We do everything via CF - at least until I can convince someone to try out CDK.

[real frigate]

It took some wrangling, but I did finally get it working directly in the template. The biggest hurdle was setting up the stack with existing resources and new resources in the same template.

[deft pewter]

You can do that? 😮

Not sure our lead would appreciate that. He's really anal about keeping our stacks pristine.

[real frigate]

We're JUST starting out with stacks, so yeah, I got away with it. Plus, we're a small dev shop, so we're defining as we go.

[deft pewter]

Ah. 10k+ employee multinational here... I can't get away with that 😂

I'd love a bit more freedom... but I put up with the bureaucracy for now because the pension and shares are good.

[real frigate]

Yeah, I was in a big government operation before... HATED it. But, same, the pension was amazing. I got laid off when COVID hit though, so I was happy I found the place I did.

I turned down a LOT of .Net jobs though to get it.

[deft pewter]

What do you mainly write in?

[wooden copper]

Anyone here speak Czech or Slovak? I need a word translation. That google is failing me on. Lol

[real frigate]

Node, Python and PHP. I still dabble in C# from time to time depending on the need. Python is pretty much my main though.

[deft pewter]

Yeah... Node here but wondering whether to start branching out. Wouldn't consider myself an expert but I'm definitely starting to plateau and think I should learn something different.

Another department uses mostly Ruby... looks interesting but feels a bit niche.

[deft pewter]

Just ask and see who answers. I don't think we have many Czech or Slovakian speakers here though.

[wooden copper]

Namahany

If anyone has any guesses would appreciate it. Sorry. Little off topic. But figured best place to ask it.

[deft pewter]

bab.la has this: https://en.bab.la/dictionary/czech-english/namáhání

[real frigate]

Eh, Ruby has never been an interest of mine... I can't really say why, it's just meh for me. Python, along with node really encompass most of the "open-source" world right now. Especially if you want to do data crunching.

[deft pewter]

Ruby looks like wonky Python 😄

What are all those end tags about?

Current employer is a business software firm and I work on services that integrate with FinTechs... so we just use Node for ease of development. But it's funny... despite JS being so popular, they can never hire 😂

Not sure what they'll do when they refuse to let me work remotely and I hand my notice in.

[real frigate]

lmao! Yeah, we're trying to do all of our lambdas in node and my initial response was "but I can do that SO much faster in Python!" lol

Hell, I've been remote for YEARS now... We're opening our new offices in the next month... I don't know if I'm excited or not yet.

[deft pewter]

You been told you'll have to spend time there?

I don't think employers that haven't done the whole remote thing before Corona realise how difficult it's going to be to convince people to return. I'm not the only one in my dept that would rather quit.

[real frigate]

Yeah, at least 3-4 days a week.

[deft pewter]

Ouch...

If my boss said 1 day per week, I'd still be on the fence about quitting.

I suspect they're going to say 2-3 days a week and they'll even specify the days.

They keep telling us they're a flexible employer... dictating the days I spend there isn't flexibility.

[real frigate]

Yeah, that's what I suspect they'll do with us as well. But, because we're a small team, there's a lot of benefits in being able to be in close(r) proximity. Plus, we've all had our shots.

[deft pewter]

Eh... I don't believe any of that bull about face-to-face time making collaboration better. I haven't noticed any change with our team.

Been with them about 2 1/2 years now. Half of that pre-Corona, half since. Team dynamic is just the same, productivity is up.

We're all antisocial gits that just want to do a good job. We all hate the commute and noisy office spaces.

[real frigate]

LMAO!!! EXACTLY! I've not been able to communicate that though... at least not as well.

I'm out for a bit... later mono!

[forest edge]

noice! <#announcements message> now you guys need to contact flirc and make a limited edition HA case!

[deft pewter]

HA's going to become a household name at this rate.

The core team are doing amazing work promoting it and working with other orgs.

[forest edge]

here you go @deft pewter this is about SC and addresses your reaction to it when we talked about it the other day. https://youtu.be/bYs_zn2pTZo

[clear ferry]

https://open.spotify.com/track/33LxGEXeauU6dHIVkhJH5Q?si=8hWGAOsGRzebn6MrI6zJVA&utm_source=copy-link&context=spotify%3Aplaylist%3A37i9dQZEVXcWgrbGYx0xJZ

More soft rock

[clear ferry]

https://i.redd.it/zm3fd9a126171.jpg

[last cedar]

Hahahaha

[snow hedge]

Is anyone using Frigate? I've noticed it recommends getting a Google Coral. I have 8 cameras hooked up using the 960x480 12fps substreams, all running detection, and it's barely even denting my CPU. I haven't even configured hardware acceleration... what's the point in buying a hardware accelerator if it's this fast? lol

[last cedar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/nk04ak/a_blessing_from_the_lord/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Lots are using frigate!

[snow hedge]

It's pretty awesome... like I say, seemingly too awesome

[last cedar]

I am gonna stick with blue iris, at least for now :)

[snow hedge]

I saw Blue Iris was Windows only and immediately noped out lol

[last cedar]

Mmmm, it is a high bar for entry for many

It is very very good though

[clear ferry]

Getting ready for grow season

[real frigate]

Meanwhile, we're roasting in the southeastern US. 🔥 🔥 🔥

[clear ferry]

I even put out potatoes this year

[clear ferry]

Damn hotlanta and new burnleans

[real frigate]

We're supposed to be hotter than them for the next couple days. What's funny is that just a few weeks ago, we were having freeze warnings. lol

[clear ferry]

We are 8-15c atm

Getting to 25 this weekend

So perfect for time for planting

my strawberries are thriving

[glacial knot]

Do you live in a marsh?

[clear ferry]

Mostly all of Norway is clay earth

[glacial knot]

Ah no, that’s not water. What’s the white stuff to the right?

Just rocks?

[clear ferry]

Bedrock yes

[glacial knot]

Makes sense. Zoomed out it looked like puddles

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/muddy-puddles-peppa-pig-cute-mud-playful-gif-17553276

[dusky plank]

what is this? tomatos for ants? 🤏

64 pieces at least with 256 kernels,
18L buckets

[forest edge]

it will likely kill your pc if all 8 of those cameras got motion detection and it had to determine what the object was all at the same time lol

[snow hedge]

Yea guess so, but for typical usage it seems awesome 🙂

[deft pewter]

Where's Fred?

[real frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/fred-flintstone-the-flintstones-furious-ticked-off-angry-man-gif-18118658

[deft pewter]

Now that's the Bedrock I remember.

[green inlet]

Sadly no garden this year 🥲

Didn’t get to it soon enough

And @real frigate , loving these temps

[real frigate]

Blech. We got robbed of our winter (we had ONE freaking day of snow... and that was like 30 minutes lol) and now summer is here before "official" summer... No. I'm mad. LOL

[green inlet]

Screw winter.....🤣

What part of the southeast are you in?

Only a few states in the southeast that can even think about snow

[dawn prawn]

wheres the good stuff?

[real frigate]

Charlotte... Yeah, usually at least the Blue Ridge gets a fair amount... but this past winter just sucked balls.

We even bought snow tires for my wife's Countryman last year... they're still sitting in the shed... sigh

[dawn prawn]

how good is a shed full of useless shit?

its the height of living

you made it

[green inlet]

Hah, yes, I am also in Charlotte

[real frigate]

No shit?!

LOL

I'm over in "west Charlotte" (Gaston county).

[forest edge]

snow tires? we don't even buy snow tires up north

complete waste of money

[dawn prawn]

get a room u 2

just make sure you keep control of your car on the way to the room

[real frigate]

@forest edge Yeah, true... but we wanted to actually take it IN THE SNOW! lol

[real frigate]

Shush now... just because you're on the wrong side of the planet doesn't mean you need to be all grumpy 😉 (I kid, of course lol)

[dawn prawn]

haha same

[green inlet]

@forest edge , doesn’t need snow tires, he doesn’t leave his house. I am in Union County 😉

[forest edge]

reminds me of the cali's who move here and make posts on the local social media terrified of snow and wondering how they should proceed lol

[dawn prawn]

wtf is snow?

thought it was a thing in the movies

[real frigate]

Yeah... I used to live in NY years ago... when winter was a thing. When we first moved to NC, we had "snowpocolypse" and everybody was losing their minds over 6 inches... lol

[green inlet]

You would 💯 need snow tires in the mountains here with any kind of decent snow fall.

[real frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/all-of-this-pointing-up-there-see-this-gif-14720503

Except... not this year... grumble

[green inlet]

Some of the roads are 30-45 degree slopes

[real frigate]

I did the Diamondback (NC-226A) in 2019 during a small snow "event" in my wife's Countryman... with snow tires... holy CRAP that was FUN!

Scared the hell out of her though. 😉

[forest edge]

never had an issue with the mountains in Colorado on just plain ole all terrain but then I am use to driving in the stuff

[clear ferry]

@dawn prawn you mean my apples

[green inlet]

Yes, so the only way I can even handle snow is if I can play in it. Love snow skiing in Boone. Haven’t been to sugar yet but plan on it

[dawn prawn]

nah, your plums mate

[clear ferry]

my plum tree died 😦

so I planted a red currant bush there instead

[dawn prawn]

straight over your head

[real frigate]

I would LOVE to do some Colorado mountain driving.

[dawn prawn]

doesn't Chevvy make a Colorado?

[green inlet]

Sure, if you wait for the plows 🤣. Prob here is the temps swing so wildly that snow melts and turns to ice over night

[forest edge]

drive slower

[real frigate]

Ummmm, I don't know? I don't really like American cars 😉 (You have seen my avatar, right?! lol)

[green inlet]

Drive backwards up a 45 degree incline on icy roads

[dawn prawn]

I too am cursed with owning a British car

[forest edge]

why you planting poison oak

[clear ferry]

don't diss my strawberries cunt

[forest edge]

those are strawberries?

damn foreign fruit. why is everything over seas gotta be so much smaller lol

[real frigate]

Minis haven't been "British" for years now. lol

[forest edge]

italian?

[dawn prawn]

probably Indian

like mine

[real frigate]

Since BMW bought Mini back in 2010(ish?), they've been pushing more and more German into them.

[clear ferry]

JAWOHL

[forest edge]

gross

[real frigate]

Eh, it's not all that bad. The B48 in my 2015 is a really good engine.

[forest edge]

yea it's all fine till you talk to a mechanic who's honest with you lol

[real frigate]

I have one of those 😉 My Mini is by no means "stock" heh

@dawn prawn That thing is bad ass!!! lol

[clear ferry]

german cars are great, in a european setting, the moment they are sold in the US the problems arise because they are defaulted with bigger engines and more extras, that make them extra unreliable, we've been over this 😄

because murica == bigger better

[dawn prawn]

the germans fucked the land rover pretty badly

[real frigate]

Totally agree... One of the things I love about American-sold Minis is that they haven't fallen into that trap too much.

[clear ferry]

atleast with the BMWs if I remember correctly they default to the v6 engines, which also pull in air suspension etc

[forest edge]

they are overpriced and intentionally built to keep you investing money into it, not to mention the latest crap with subscriptions but like BMW has been charging out the ass for the simplist of shit for decades

[clear ferry]

which is hardly ever seen on a european model

[real frigate]

True. BMW in general in the US is WAY overpriced, WAY oversized and yeah, like @forest edge said, they are charging extra for shit that should be standard. The subscriptions thing is just insane.

[forest edge]

pretty sure it's the same everywhere it's just people like atx are use to getting it in the butt with no lube so they don't know any better

[real frigate]

LMFAO

[clear ferry]

I just never buy new cars 😄

[real frigate]

I actually refuse to buy anything newer than 3-5 years.

[clear ferry]

newest car I ever owned was a 2 year old one, after that, 5 years, but most I've owned have been 10-20 years old

[dawn prawn]

do u have a volvo or a saab?

[clear ferry]

I have both currently

plus a VW

[dawn prawn]

how patriotic

[clear ferry]

eh, the volvo is my daily, the saab is my fathers vacation car (250bhp on a 2.0 i4) and my wife drives the tiguan because I care about the kids 😄

[dawn prawn]

bloody volvo drivers

[clear ferry]

the v70 is actually 1000l more cargo space than the v90

which is impressive

since the v90 looks huge

[dawn prawn]

I would like an S60 T8 R-Design one day

[clear ferry]

still contemplating changing the volvo or the tiguan to an X5 \ Touareg or a XC90

will have to revisit it when crotchmonster #2 is here

[dawn prawn]

oh u also have number 2 on the way?

[clear ferry]

apparently

[dawn prawn]

#metoo

need a new job to pay for a new car

[clear ferry]

if my wife gets a job after her masters that would be great 😄

currently supporting three on one income, soon four

[dawn prawn]

phd after that

my wife is breadwinner, but i need more money to pay for more unnecessary toys

[clear ferry]

eh, I make 4x the average, so we do fine and I have spending money, but it helps with more

[dawn prawn]

can i have some money?

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/8pOE.gif

[forest edge]

i mean you all eat raw meat and grow miniature veggies and fruit. couldn't you support another 8 kids at least?

[clear ferry]

hey, that raw bacon can be expensive

I only buy the premium stuff

for extra chewiness

[dawn prawn]

its why i have a gun, so i don't have to pay for meat

[forest edge]

why not just buy and breed pigs then you can make it a family event chasing one down and eating it while it's still alive

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/80xJ.gif

https://open.spotify.com/track/7bjFwBrDbaafJRwqYpodD7?si=dae5b1ab338f4293

[hushed basalt]

We don't need to see your self portrait

[real frigate]

I thought they only did that in Alabama?

[forest edge]

american's do not eat raw meat unless it's sushi

even the most back wooded hillbillies know how to make a fire

[glacial knot]

yea, they throw a gender reveal party

[forest edge]

That is a Gen Z specific thing

[clear ferry]

General USA you say

[deft pewter]

Yes. The Z stands for zombie.

🇺🇸

[forest edge]

zombies are more productive and less dramatic

[deft pewter]

This is true, zombies are better for the economy than your average Murican.

[forest edge]

yea american's haven't done nothing to stimulate the economy.. ever

[glacial knot]

I wonder, is looting an economy booster, or does it hamper economy?

[forest edge]

it balances things out from other countries who don't contribute jack

[deft pewter]

I don't know this Jack you speak of. Is he handsome?

[forest edge]

I think he wears a monocle, does that sound handsome to you?

[glacial knot]

or a pirate?

[deft pewter]

The third person in as many weeks has handed their notice in within my department. All of them are leaving because the new role is remote. How many more need to leave before our director changes his stance? 🤣

[clever mortar]

It doesn't matter

All of you can leave, and they'll still stick their head in the sand

[forest edge]

caving doesn't exactly help them either

infact could make things worse

[last cedar]

I hate management like that

[clever mortar]

Eh, admitting you were wrong isn't a bad thing

[forest edge]

to a degree it is

[clever mortar]

[forest edge]

and dependant on situation

[clever mortar]

If you were wrong, admitting you were wrong isn't a bad thing

If it's only a disagreement, sure

But, if everybody else says A and you say B... odds aren't in your favour

[deft pewter]

If he didn't answer to someone higher up, I'd expect him to do exactly that.

I think his boss will wonder why his is the only department losing people.

[forest edge]

caving on a drastic job changing scenario could have all sorts of negative impacts not just for that one thing, but would raise the notion that anything is now up for grabs

[deft pewter]

Other depts are attracting talent. His is losing it.

[clever mortar]

There's a difference between caving and we fucked up

But... whatever 😛

[forest edge]

well my initial response said caving

[clever mortar]

And nobody here was talking about caving but about admitting when you're wrong

You know, being adult...

[forest edge]

changing his stance indicates caving to me

[clever mortar]

Not simply pretending that if you keep denying it the world will change 😛

https://tenor.com/view/james-spader-desperate-help-the-blacklist-you-need-help-gif-12305438

[forest edge]

still indicates caving lol

[deft pewter]

🤦‍♂️

[clever mortar]

You still need help

[deft pewter]

Raymond knows best.

[forest edge]

I see this is one of those, agree with me or get out situations lol

[clever mortar]

I have a lot more respect, and time, for people who can admit when they were wrong, than those who want to pretend they know best and worry about "caving"

Eh, you can call it caving if you want, but it worries me that you think that way

[deft pewter]

Pride before all else = bad.

I can be stubborn but even I'll listen to reason.

[forest edge]

I have had my fair share of leader type roles over the years, just how it comes across to me

it's not pride

[clever mortar]

Then people have failed to communicate/adult

[forest edge]

the fact that you think it has anything to do with pride is why you don't understanbd what I was saying

[deft pewter]

Sounds like being afraid to admit you're wrong 🤷‍♂️

[forest edge]

it's a job

not a daycare

[deft pewter]

Leaders that insist they're always right aren't leaders.

[clever mortar]

They're managers

[deft pewter]

[forest edge]

right

[deft pewter]

If someone's role exists only so they can spend their whole time telling someone else how to do a job, they're not important. Managers aren't important.

Leaders inspire. Leaders support. Leaders train.

Leaders know when they're wrong and listen to their team.

[forest edge]

leader/manager is basically the same thing in most cases

unless you actually have "leader" roles

team leader i guess?

[clever mortar]

Well, a leader is somebody that others want to follow

The job description and the behaviour aren't the same

[forest edge]

you guys must have some way diffrent job structure

[clever mortar]

Managers are those that fill a functional task role
Leaders are those that people will change jobs/employers for

Or possibly we've found people that we want to work for

As the saying goes, people don't leave jobs, they leave managers

People will also leave a job to go work for a leader they trust

[forest edge]

I feel like this perception is really limited to one specific type of job lol

[clever mortar]

Nope

[forest edge]

yea well none of that exsist or atleast it didn't exsisn in other job types

[clever mortar]

"Other"... yeah, sure

[forest edge]

there was no uprising and mutiny

[clever mortar]

What "other" are you talking of?

[forest edge]

due to one person "leader"

[clever mortar]

I've seen teams get gutted when a leader leaves, and most of the team follows them

[forest edge]

managers have a specific role to maintain what the company wants regardless what the employees think. they take input and pass it on but they don't generally have the authority to drasticly change things even if they wanted to

but a manager who can or does start to change things uisually ends up starting a ball rolling down a hill effect

[deft pewter]

they take input and pass it on
Can I refer you back to my earlier point about them being unimportant? An email takes input and passes it on and it's far cheaper.

[forest edge]

lol email

well if you can email the head hanhoo then do it

[clever mortar]

I know somewhere that removed an entire layer of what you describe as management, and got a performance and morale boost

[deft pewter]

If all they're going to do is parrot stuff, they're just a mailman. Get with the times and just send out email bulletins.

[forest edge]

but guess you never watched star trek.. they frowned by passing chain of command on that show lol

[clever mortar]

[deft pewter]

We had a ruthless CEO come in for a couple of years. He restructured a global business and sacked a load of middle management. The whole business is better for it now.

I used to be about 15 levels away from the CEO. I'm now no more than 6.

[clever mortar]

Shocked to hear that, just shocked...

[forest edge]

again this is limited to computer jobs i guess?

[deft pewter]

No...

[clever mortar]

And many other things

[forest edge]

i never heard of someone bypoassing the manager and going straight to the ceo

[deft pewter]

No-one said they're doing that. But you don't need managers and deputy managers and supervisors.

[forest edge]

you said that

[deft pewter]

You don't need regional managers and regional VP's. It's all bull.

[forest edge]

you specifically said that lol

[deft pewter]

I did not 😉

I said if your management just pass messages down to their staff, that could've been an email.

[forest edge]

this

[clever mortar]

Somebody needs to go gain some reading comprehension skills

Nothing there said bypass management

It said that person's job is pointless

[forest edge]

was that sarcasim? you you guys do not relay sarcasim for shit lol

[deft pewter]

If the person in the middle of that chain of communication adds no value to the message, that person is pointless.

[clever mortar]

Or at least the job is

[deft pewter]

Nothing stopping a CEO (or their PA) from writing a bulletin to the whole business.

But if they do all the bull with cascading things and rolling them out in morning briefings to each team, that's just a waste of everyone's time.

[forest edge]

I explained the typical managers role

[clever mortar]

That happens regularly where I currently work, it's refreshing

Hell, before lockdown they'd come to all the offices and everybody was invited to come and meet them and raise anything they wanted

Somebody legitimately did raise the issue that the tea in the office had been swapped for a cheaper, less pleasant, brand...

[deft pewter]

They've got their priorities right

[clever mortar]

The tea was changed... which I thought said a lot

[deft pewter]

Our complaints tend to be about the lack of cutlery in the dining areas.

[clever mortar]

Cutlery? You get trusted with sharp things?

[deft pewter]

Not in the new building. They aren't even trusting us with a gym, a cafe, a desk each...

[clever mortar]

😂

[deft pewter]

You know where I work. Take a look at the old HQ if you're interested. Custom built for us about 15 years back, still in good shape, has great facilities.

We're moving into a rental now. There's fuck all in it.

[clever mortar]

It's cheaper to rent something, sadly

[deft pewter]

Enough desks for 70% of us at once, and that's after removing all the things you need when you can't just nip home.

[clever mortar]

Actually, having had long chats with our facilities team, even renting is a PITA

[deft pewter]

It depends somewhat on how many people go in but the capacity is going to be something like 1400 people. The seating in the coffee shop has about 30 seats... 🤦‍♂️

[deft pewter]

If only there were an alternative to expensive HQ's...

[clever mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/shush-themask-gif-18438239

[forest edge]

so essentially Tinkerer could never work for another company cause the grass wouldn't be green enough and almost anything would be an improvement for mono. if you both got laid off mono could easily start a new job somewhere else but tinkerer would probably starve jobless lol

[clever mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/missed-missed-the-point-missing-the-point-gif-15504611

[forest edge]

but i wasn't wrong lol

[clever mortar]

Don't think I have too much to worry about in the employment stakes...

[deft pewter]

I'm pretty sure both myself and Tinkerer could easily walk into other roles.

But yeah... #the-water-cooler message

[forest edge]

i mean.. he would turn into you while you would just complain alittle less possibly

just be glad your not game dev's from all the shit i read

[clever mortar]

T-37 and counting

[deft pewter]

Hah. I'd never get into game development. Sounds fun but not worth the toxic culture, long hours or low pay.

[clever mortar]

And conditions that make sweatshops look like an upgrade

[deft pewter]

If I described my work, you'd think it's boring... but I'll take solving difficult corporate stuff over making pretty games.

[forest edge]

web design was about as close to "programming" for money as I ever or would ever want to get

[deft pewter]

🤢

I hate anything visual. I can do it, I just don't enjoy it and find it tedious.

[forest edge]

today it is 🤢 but back in the day it was pretty good

[deft pewter]

Give me abstract stuff any day. Proper problem solving.

[clear ferry]

I often talk 3-4 manager levels above me 🤣

[forest edge]

but not the ceo

right?

[deft pewter]

My bosses wanted a way for us to easily handle file formats we hadn't seen before without having to get the engineering teams to write a new processor for each format. I recently designed a system for them that accepts templates and processes files based on the mappings in those templates. Someone else can write the template and I can work on something more fun than yet another processor.

[forest edge]

but then dosen't your work place have like 50 managers?

[deft pewter]

Really enjoyed solving that, came up with something clever.

[clever mortar]

That sounds like the fun stuff for sure

[clear ferry]

There used to be 14 levels from me to the CEO, now it is only 6

[deft pewter]

Because managers are pointless.

[clear ferry]

Most of the US ones were

Those are the ones that are gone

[deft pewter]

Before Vasiley comes storming in, I don't think atx is explicitly stating that all Americans are bad managers.

[clear ferry]

Aren't I?

[forest edge]

I have a irl friend that works for one of those online gambling companies, he does shit involving geo fencing and has to deal with people who work in the same company at different branches in different countries and it's like in one discord channel i have to hear complaints how people do thier job etc in the USA and then in another discord i hear the same shit but about every other country lol

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/kramer-seinfeld-comedy-gif-7906146

[forest edge]

if everyone views everyone else as lazy.. who's the real culprit?

[clear ferry]

I don't view everyone else as lazy, just the muricans, and the French, and the Greek

The British are just sarcastic cunts

[forest edge]

and they probably view you the same way

[clear ferry]

The Australians are just cunt cunts

The Germans are just nnnnn, very thorough

[forest edge]

i think aussies have alittle bit of reason to be bitchy after learning thier out of pocket costs lol

[clear ferry]

The swedes are stupid, everyone knows that

And the Finnish are drunk

The Danes are just horny and drunk

[last cedar]

The cat sat on the lap

Swedes are stupid yes

[clear ferry]

That's a big pu.. KITTERCATTER

Flaunt it like you own it

[orchid rose]

Even Denmark's Coat of Arms is horny

[forest edge]

after some of the swedish videos i've seen i honestly thought that was her hairy legs..

[clear ferry]

BAP @last cedar

[forest edge]

american's are not use to women who let the hair grow out on armpits and legs unless you were living in the 70's

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/quarantine-stay-home-hairy-coronavirus-covid19-gif-16782036

[forest edge]

it freaks us out.. honestly

well most of us.. there will always be those fetishes

[clear ferry]

Thank goodness for the second amendment then

[forest edge]

pretty standard look for norwegian women isn't it? https://youtu.be/uHWJJ4BsHQw

[glacial knot]

appreciated

[clear ferry]

Nein

[glacial knot]

but yea, I talk to my CTO on a semi regular basis and if I felt like it, I'd call my CEO /shrug

which reminds me, I wanted to schedule a meeting with our CMO...

[clear ferry]

Chief medical officer?

Bones?

https://tenor.com/view/rainn-wilson-prank-theoffice-jimhalpert-dwight-gif-8301030

[glacial knot]

Chief Marketing Officer

they like to invent weird titles for people

[clear ferry]

Working in an American company which used to have 350k employees it would probably be weird talking to the CEO

[deft pewter]

VP of Poster Production

[clear ferry]

But I regularly talk to CEOs in Norwegian companies

[glacial knot]

More like VP of zoom workshops 😂

[deft pewter]

That's not marketing 🤔

[forest edge]

our ceo's in those companies don't work in the same building much less same state. you probably run into yours at the same interestion every other norwegian hits just to go from a to b

[glacial knot]

my CEO doesn't even work on the same continent as me 😄

[deft pewter]

Important question... which kind of liquorice allsort is the best?

[glacial knot]

the one you avoid buying

[forest edge]

dependent on the company type it is very rare for general employee's to just call up and talk to the ceo

here anyways

[glacial knot]

yea, if you have people whose only job is playing buffer, that's not a surprise

[forest edge]

yea managers, regional managers etc

[deft pewter]

Jobsworths.

[forest edge]

now for smaller companies where maybe there is only a few hundred branches or something it may be diffrent

[deft pewter]

Branches? You work in retail? 🤢

[forest edge]

branches is a general term we call seperate locations

[glacial knot]

must be. Since they have structures set up to deal with the cheapest people. Not good people

[forest edge]

you know we call the cheapiest people those we outsource from other countries right?

that is a thing

a legit thing

just fyi

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/assistant-to-the-regional-manager-assistant-regional-manager-the-office-gif-19269609

[glacial knot]

yea, outsourcing sucks. Needs even more manager type positions 😪

I'll leave that to other people

[clear ferry]

The good thing about working for an American company, if I change my job to the one they are offering me now, they said I could make up my own title 🤣

[midnight adder]

HA discord still has no vanity url?

[forest edge]

@clear ferrydo you have a fall back norwegian owned and operated job? because one of these damn days this whole cheaper going abroad is really going to blow up here more than it already is lol

[deft pewter]

Sure it does. This is memorable enough, right? https://discord.gg/5RfTCUhn

[forest edge]

didn't even know discord had vanity url's for servers at all

[deft pewter]

Governments will protect against too many jobs going abroad.

The US loves sanctions. A lot of that is to keep money within your borders and protect industries.

[forest edge]

it already happened and it's already an issue mono

but people are fighting to pull it back

[midnight adder]

Doesn't bother me tbh, just wondering why a 70k server isn't taking advatage of it

[forest edge]

and if they ever do, many companies like the one atx works for will go poof

[clear ferry]

Also, working with military, that isn't a concern of mine

[midnight adder]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[deft pewter]

Because who cares? No-one's going to join the server just because it has a vanity URL. They'll click a link, as links are intended to be used.

Raise it on the forums if you're bothered.

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-stewart-mild-shock-shocked-shock-mild-gif-5292523

[midnight adder]

My god, remind me not to ask anything

[deft pewter]

Reminder: don't ask anything

[glacial knot]

and not to mention HA when mono is near this channel

[midnight adder]

Reminder: no need to reply to everyone, just ignore

[forest edge]

they have pretty dry responses in here

damn euro

wait till you see thier sarcasim.. it's even more dry

[deft pewter]

What's a reply?

[glacial knot]

is that your attempt at sarcasm? I took it for a typo earlier o.0

[glacial knot]

I think this is. You can even ping with it

[midnight adder]

I don't know, you tell me

[deft pewter]

We got a feisty one here. I like 'em already.

[forest edge]

oddly enough @midnight adder they aren't intentionally trying to sound rude but it's hard to tell lol so just brush it off

[midnight adder]

Yeh, I gathered. I tend to ignore situations like this lol

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-leonardo-di-caprio-prevalent-mind-snowflake-sad-gif-12171235

[glacial knot]

says the one covered in snow half the year

[deft pewter]

That just means he knows a snowflake when he sees one.

[forest edge]

this is why we have ambassadors, to help with the language barrier otherwise we may have nuked so many other countries by now lol

[glacial knot]

Communication is hard D:

[forest edge]

it really is and you'd think we would have come so much further by now then we have

[clear ferry]

But unfortunately we have to deal with you @forest edge

[forest edge]

mono can only speak british english, we only speak american english.. atx can only speak whale

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/dory-pixar-finding-nemo-i-can-speak-whale-fish-gif-15725317

[glacial knot]

a true dori wouldn't have remembered that scene

[deft pewter]

Which scene?

[glacial knot]

I'd make a joke about your short term memory

but if I split it into multiple message, you'll never get it either way

[clear ferry]

[deft pewter]

I'd tell you a joke about UDP but you might not get it.

[clear ferry]

Four of the next six weeks are training, hello home office

[glacial knot]

training? AKA tinkering with HA while pretending to listen?

[forest edge]

back to your attic with the low ceilings huh?

[clear ferry]

no?

[deft pewter]

atx's study looks great.

Doesn't have quite enough LEGO for my taste but I still like it.

[glacial knot]

does he have a desk made of 3 19" racks? To small ones for the feet, and a large one as plate?

[forest edge]

while the camera is pointed down sure

[clear ferry]

@glacial knot

[glacial knot]

oh, that was from you? I remember seeing that setup

[clear ferry]

I have a cleaner wide angle picture somewhere 🤣

[deft pewter]

The ceiling mounted monitor is a bit odd 😄

[glacial knot]

it's a bit too small I guess

should be a 48" there

[tame cove]

omg cool setup!

[clear ferry]

I have a electric desk, so a 24" is perfect when my desk is all the way up

[glacial knot]

How many years are between those photos? Looks like at least 2 years worth of layers of stuff on that deks

[forest edge]

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/HdAq1ClRtYaC-I8hgPiLfKcl_ifKafoIcMynZk0S6JASb-tnkDnu0s4nJpdCJ1JZKOc0ruQ_zhqa3s--wRcql_3bbFd3TFt2ysLTp6J503el3Q

[deft pewter]

How organised are you that you don't recognise 3 days worth of desk junk?

[glacial knot]

I decided to get my shit together and keep my desk clean-ish

because otherwise I just drown in random stuff I never clean

[forest edge]

that chair.. was that taken from a bicycle and stuck on a rod?

[clear ferry]

Yes, ergonomic, murica probably hasn't heard about that

[forest edge]

i mean we put them on bicycles

[glacial knot]

that'd be good for employee health. European Heathens

[forest edge]

I need my back support

I lean back way too often

[orchid rose]

Funny fact, people nowadays have a shorter attention span than goldfish

[glacial knot]

I can barely concentrate long enough to read that word

[forest edge]

this a Gen Z comment?

[orchid rose]

https://www.cnet.com/news/goldfish-the-actual-fish-not-the-crackers-may-have-a-better-attention-span-than-humans/

[deft pewter]

Millennials are just as bad.

[forest edge]

that is no surprise to me at all

[glacial knot]

I have no idea which of those dumb generations I'm in /shrug

[forest edge]

anyone who was alive before smart phones can clearly see the effects lol

[deft pewter]

And since atx is older than the dinosaurs and Sonoma is older than atx...

[forest edge]

atx is like 20

closer to 30 in whale years

[deft pewter]

atx is almost 40 😂

[forest edge]

would be kind of funny if the destruction of our species was somehow directly related to the effects of smart phones

[glacial knot]

the 5G 'rona already tried

[forest edge]

probably why the military don't allow cell phones in nuclear buildings

[deft pewter]

Corona isn't related to smart phones. The vaccine's what gives the 5G signal.

[deft pewter]

Or... security? 🤔

[forest edge]

they are allowed outside the buildings a believe

[glacial knot]

You mean, they don't want tinder to have data on when they change guard duty?

[deft pewter]

Yes. But you can't bring electronic devices in without screening. They're not going to screen your cell phone every time you go in.

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/quiet-shaggy-scooby-doo-gif-5031765

[forest edge]

but why not just ban them throughout the whole complex from the get go

[clear ferry]

You mean like the sites I go to where I turn off my phone 30km before I reach the site?

[forest edge]

yea

it makes the most sense

[deft pewter]

Because it's not the signal they care about. It's easy enough to have X-ray scanners or metal detectors at entrances to catch the devices themselves.

Nuclear sites are a massive target for hackers. They don't want electronic devices inside.

[clear ferry]

Did you say stuxnet?

[forest edge]

well smart phones will be the end of us one way or the other regardless i am sure

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/wall-e-humans-lazy-eve-disney-gif-5471514

[glacial knot]

yea, someones going to bludgeon you with

[forest edge]

why the hell would someone make that

[deft pewter]

Because it's indestructible?

[glacial knot]

have you heard of this thing on the internet, called a meme?

or are you too boomer for that?

[deft pewter]

Is that America?

[orchid rose]

Florida

[clear ferry]

Yes

Real time footage

[forest edge]

yea we're already in space. don't worry maybe another 30-50 years you guys might make it

wtf is a meme

is that one of atx's side dishes

[deft pewter]

It's pronounced 'mee-mee', thank you.

[clear ferry]

Mei-mei

[glacial knot]

it's a little octopus in the 3DS Zelda game

[forest edge]

wonder why the royal caribbean is avoiding europe like the plague

i hope someone films the first voyage when they reopen

[clear ferry]

You mean the Norwegian started cruise ship firm?

[forest edge]

yea and they only have one boat for uk and uk only lol

[clear ferry]

One might almost think the secret was in their name

[forest edge]

nah wasn't looking at that

they own off branches like the norwegian cruise line etc

but was talking about thier main line

i wonder if quad bought stock

[clear ferry]

https://i.redd.it/o4w97sa7iidz.jpg

[clever mortar]

Help! I'm trapped in a PDP 11/70!
From the old fortune program

[clear ferry]

That's even older than anything I've ever seen

Or, I saw one in the British science museum

[deft pewter]

You saw Tinkerer there? Which exhibit?\

[clear ferry]

Woolly mammoth

[clever mortar]

Yeah, that's our pet, we call him Tiny

[tame cove]

i have a stupid question probably

[static schooner]

I sure hope it’s off topic

[clear ferry]

[static schooner]

Perhaps about wooly mammoths

[tame cove]

i just saw the supervised installation of HA, and it has this great addon-store , i wonder why we would NOT choose this version of HA?

[static schooner]

Doh! I award 0 points

[clever mortar]

Well, that's a topic for #general-archived

[clear ferry]

Locked in appliance hell

🤢

[clever mortar]

But the TL/DR is ... because there's choice

[velvet horizon]

The topic of this channel is:

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No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

If you found this server and want to know what it's about, start with the web site: https://www.home-assistant.io/

Remember when reporting spam to include a screenshot of the spam and the user's handle (eg @spammer#123)

Command '.topic' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[tame cove]

O.o goes to other

[static schooner]

Feel free to return with questions about wooly mammoths

[deft pewter]

How many hungry adults could a woolly mammoth braai feed?

[clever mortar]

One

[deft pewter]

🤔

I know you Scots are renowned for your hearty appetites but that's madness.

[clever mortar]

You never said what the timescale was...

[static schooner]

Mammoth jerky

[deft pewter]

Yeah, yeah. One bite at a time.

But the braai doesn't last forever. It's a single meal.

[clever mortar]

Sure, but a meal can last many days if done right

[deft pewter]

I don't want to go to your barbecues. 🤢

[clever mortar]

If you remember it later, other than through the fact that you lost a weekend, or so, and put on a few pounds, something went wrong

[forest edge]

heh disney+ added ice road rescues a national geographic series on norway's icey roads and the services mandated to pull vehicles back up onto the road from flying off the cliff

there is like 5 series of it with like 8 episodes each. someone liked watching that

[deft pewter]

The days where I drank so much I'd have gaps in my memory are long gone. I enjoy the occasional cocktail or short drink now.

[forest edge]

wonder how many contain pulling atx out with a pancake and brown cheese smeered on the windshield

[deft pewter]

Brown cheese 🤢 Toxic waste.

[orchid rose]

Just the word makes me taste it in my mouth and it's been like 20 years since I tried it

it's truly disgusting

[cedar chasm]

It's all well and good not liking brown cheese outside of Norway. I had to grow up with the risk of having to use a cheese slicer with brown cheese residue IN MY HOME!
WHERE I SLEPT!

[real frigate]

WTH is "brown cheese"? Wait... I'm not sure I want to know now.

[cedar chasm]

It's goat's cheese but in the most horrific way

[real frigate]

omfg... just no.

all sorts of no.

https://tenor.com/view/lulu-gifs-bb-classics-bb-legends-neil-patrick-harris-nasty-gif-15715813

[cedar chasm]

Many swear by it here and to it's credit it's not particularly pungent

but yeah, you can all have my share

[real frigate]

So, it basically ranks right up there with livermush then.

[cedar chasm]

the wikipedia image for fried livermush looks intriguing, to be honest, but seeing as this is the first I'm hearing of it I'll assume it's an acquired taste for most

[real frigate]

It's a southern thing (in the US) and yeah, absolutely an acquired taste... and really gross too.

[cedar chasm]

There are a lot of liver-based foods I enjoy but some aren't as good, like goose liver and such

foie gras 🤢

[deft pewter]

I think the only liver-based foods I dislike is: all of them

[cedar chasm]

some liver pate spread on toast? come on now

[deft pewter]

🤢

[cedar chasm]

If you don't support Leverpostei, as seen in this image, the child on the can is put to death: https://images.app.goo.gl/C5s4JD1jADd3Zfwo6

Stakes are too high

[deft pewter]

And nothing of value was lost.

[real frigate]

I'm sure he'll be missed.

[cedar chasm]

another will take his place

it's been this way since the 900s

[deft pewter]

Cut off his head and two more will take its place.

[cedar chasm]

hail orkla

(big consumer goods company, it was a really good joke; promise)

[deft pewter]

Some traditional Austrian tunes for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUO9SNCBL6U

[dusky plank]

pleeease https://youtube.com/watch?v=ynrt1MQUFLg

[deft pewter]

That's awful.

Like... one of the worst things I've heard and I grew up in the time of the Spice Girls and Steps.

This was a popular German song, right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmlshlqXD54

Well, the original, not the much-improved cover by Feuerschwanz.

[dusky plank]

yep, i know the original

[deft pewter]

I quite like the cover. The video's amusing too.

Love the way they half dance, half march into the village.

[dusky plank]

seed is from germany though

[deft pewter]

Yes... #the-water-cooler message

aus Deutschland, nicht auf Deutsch

[dusky plank]

i think the last great artist from austria was falco

[deft pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/never-ending-story-excited-yeah-happy-fist-pump-gif-3821570

[dusky plank]

vienna calling

[deft pewter]

Oh, Falco. I prefer Falcor.

[dusky plank]

he’s my profile picture 😉

[deft pewter]

That's not you? I'm disappointed.

You must be as ugly as I am if you're also hiding behind a fake face.

Oh, Rock Me Amadeus was him? Noice

[dusky plank]

multiply that by 10

[dusky plank]

in other news we did manage to hit the top spot in controversial topics yet again, the majority of pornhub is owned by a austrian…

he occasionally drives a tractor on his fields in austria but lives in london

[hushed basalt]

Part of me wants to go to the office

But part of me wants to wfh

I wish the office was closer so I could just ride in for a few hours

[green inlet]

My Christmas flag....proudly displayed 😁

[chilly nymph]

I'm hiring if anyone wants to find me an employee 😳

[green inlet]

Flag is missing in this one 😤

@real frigate , I ordered some brown cheese because of talk here. It is not bad. I ended up shipping it to ATX though. It tastes like dulce de leche cheese if you ask me.

[green inlet]

What’s the pay?

[chilly nymph]

Haven't gotten approval yet. But it's entry level, so I'm going to guess 50 or so.

Financial analysis.

[green inlet]

Where?

[chilly nymph]

Suburbs south of Boston

Close to the Brockton area

[green inlet]

Ouch....50k and winters......can I work from gods country 🤣

[chilly nymph]

I was mostly joking, but I really am going to be hiring.

[green inlet]

If I can double dip jobs, I am your man

[chilly nymph]

Had bad lick with multiple people in a more senior role, so repositioning it as a junior role and hiring multiple. Hope is to hit on at least one of them and fast track them to a more senior position if they can prove they have a head on their shoulders

[green inlet]

I can easily prove that from sunny NC.

[chilly nymph]

@green inlet hah. Honestly, I don't care what you do as long as you get your job done. But it's a highly regulated industry and the company is going to require a couple days a week in person

[green inlet]

Banking I am guessing

[chilly nymph]

Yep