Me and adding features to my home automation
#the-water-cooler
wet pilot
i tend to miss the top right box too so at least my wife isn't super pissed at me for a ton of unfinished projects
lofty orchid
Just figured out I can use webhooks to make my serial terminal control home assistant. I'm gonna make a number/letter based python program on the terminal to read character input and call webhooks, for example press space to turn everything rainbow.
young sigil
Nice safety flip-flops Brian.
young sigil
YouTube is up the shit. Might have to go and do something productive.
last dirge
mine just came back
young sigil
Yeah it has been up and down like a bride's nightie
raven sentinel
Question for anyone with electric knowledge- I want to buy a battery for a portable fridge that is 10A. If I buy a 100ah battery, does that mean it will run the fridge for 10 hours?
young sigil
Unlikely. Look up what discharge rate that 100Ah is rated at. It will very likely be for less than 10A. The faster you discharge the lower the Ah rating.
glacial knot
if the battery will even provide 10A
raven sentinel
Looks like I need to do lot more research but I am looking for, how do I come up with a battery size when I know the amount of hours I need it to give power for the said fridge. For anyone curious, its the Waeco CF-50
glacial knot
Wh is a better measure than Ah for this kinda research
but if you are actually pulling 10A, you got a weird fridge. Is it pulling on 5V?
raven sentinel
No that was just an example. To make it easy for me to understand. It doesn’t actually pull 10A
glacial knot
ah, ok. It kinda matters for electronics. Since stuff behaves very different at high loads^^
it very roughly works that way. But there's issues with battery voltage not being the supplied one (e.g. for USB power banks that provide different voltages), so you first need to figure out what voltage that Ah value is for, then you can work from there
hushed basalt
Given the assumption that the battery and fridge are 12v which I believe they are
The fridge won't run constantly, and the battery: is probably rated for 100AH over 20 hours, and the suitable depth of discharge is probably only half of that
So basically you need to measure the sum power consumption of the fridge over a given period
And size that to a battery based on it's depth of discharge and discharge curve
raven sentinel
Thank you guys, I now know what to look for in the battery
last cedar
Fridges compressors (does it have a compressor or a peltier type thing) pull a lot of current when they start.
But yeah, what mono said, the Ah rating is over 20 hours. You might be able to run the fridge for 4 days on that battery, depending on how it works.
Get a maintainance free deep cycle battery for best performance, and least chance of hydrogen explosion
worldly axle
clear ferry
https://open.spotify.com/track/7KLoxhyuumzXYXKcHL8wsj?si=qZ5g6d4_S8-EigV2ytuY9w&utm_source=copy-link
Windex?
dusky plank
last cedar
Sick!!!!
clear ferry
deft pewter
Fridges compressors (does it have a compressor or a peltier type thing) pull a l...
That wasn't me 😄
dusky plank
https://x0.at/26L.jpeg
I see atx island
orchid rose
I don't know what that is but I kinda hate it
forest edge
it's a visual representation of atx's average daily thoughts. each mass's size indicates how much he thinks about the given subject marked. if you zoom in you will notice such thoughts as medicine and personal hygiene are incredibly small thus meaning he doesn't think much about his armpit smell nor the medical issues that arise from the bacteria growth accumulating to the point of forming a barrier of slime upon his skin.
hushed basalt
Thank you guys, I now know what to look for in the battery
Is the battery soley for the fridge. Is it mounted in a vehicle. How is it charged
raven sentinel
Is the battery soley for the fridge. Is it mounted in a vehicle. How is it charg...
Only get out few times a year mate, so most probably be in a battery box and charge at home before leaving. Dc-dc charger only if I can still spare some cash but can’t justify it unless I am out more often
hushed basalt
Is the fridge staying in a vehicle or being taken out
raven sentinel
Battery box and fridge both come out of the ute
raven sentinel
Hahaaa you got it
hushed basalt
You'd probably want to weigh up the cost of big battery vs small battery and solar
But to be honest you'll get much more targeted advice on exploreoz forums etc
raven sentinel
Yeh I think you’re right too
hushed basalt
People there will probably tell you exactly how long your model of engel lasts on a battery
raven sentinel
Cheers dude. I probably be buying a low end dometic hahaaaa. Engel is more serious gear
hushed basalt
I thought you said engel, nvm
If it helps, I built plenty of battery boxes in the day with pelican cases
Just make sure you get a box with a decent single top handle
raven sentinel
Probably buying one off the shelf man. I lack the skills
hushed basalt
I recommend ctek 5a chargers for SLA
I just buy them off eBay
Leave it on the charger permanently when at home
raven sentinel
Wont that hurt the agm battery?
hushed basalt
Nah
Ctek is smarter than that
Just make sure it's in AGM mode
The ones I have are 7 stage chargers
raven sentinel
Cheers dude, I just checked it out
last cedar
7 stage chargers are for charging 7 stages
young sigil
Nah
I've had nothing but trouble with Ctek chargers. They are not tolerant of mains side fluctuations. Victron Blue are much more reliable and just as smart.
hushed basalt
Ymmv
young sigil
mmdnv
forest edge
repurposed car 12v batteries or bust
hushed basalt
repurposed car 12v batteries or bust
Noppeee
dusky plank
clear ferry
I've already printed multiple cars
bitter pawn
@last cedar must have been a rough one last night. havent seen you cling to budweiser like that in a while.
dusky plank
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fItgbnuC-1E
wtf is wrong with these
fading mulch
clear ferry
9 9 9 9 9 9
low harness
"You have been in relaxation for..."
glacial knot
German? On the internet? Run!
clever mortar
Running towards the beer tents? Yes 
glacial knot
you are doing it wrong, if you can still run coming from there at least
clever mortar
Stagger is good
glacial knot
and use 3 times the usual space
clever mortar
It's not that, it's that the world keeps moving unpredictably
lapis cipher
beer mentioned
glacial knot
do you brew yours under purity law?
deft pewter
Can I install it on my Wear OS device? If so, I'm in.
brisk glen
It looks like Apple ar is leaking and they figured out how to use the Apple Watch as a controller
deft pewter
The language people use to describe things lately is so odd:
people with limb differences
deft pewter
AssistiveTouch? Sounds like something else I remember seeing in the last couple of months. Can't remember the name now.
brisk glen
Now it’s just battery life for AR glasses, they got the input figured out
deft pewter
This was it: https://tech.fb.com/inside-facebook-reality-labs-wrist-based-interaction-for-the-next-computing-platform/
If they can scale that down a bit, I'd use it.
deft pewter
Theirs is way more basic though...
Sounds like it detects physical movement rather than the intent.
Detecting the neurons firing is way better. You don't need to make a measurable movement to trigger things.
deft pewter
I read it:
Using built-in motion sensors like the gyroscope and accelerometer, along with the optical heart rate sensor and on-device machine learning, Apple Watch can detect subtle differences in muscle movement and tendon activity
brisk glen
Ah yah well, that’s hard
deft pewter
And you just agreed with me. It uses movement.
Facebook's just detects neurons firing. You don't need to actually move.
low harness
deft pewter
It's like those headsets that can 'read' your thoughts.
I've seen that data glove thing before. It's really neat, just too obtrusive.
deft pewter
What's to disagree with? FB's only needs the intent...
You can pretend to move your finger enough to activate neurons but not enough to move it.
brisk glen
I like the use of existing technology’s and devices to add new features
deft pewter
I'm not disagreeing that it's cool. It's just not the coolest.
brisk glen
Yah but that tech is probably years still away from real use
What happens when the watch slightly shifts
deft pewter
Sure, maybe a couple of years.
brisk glen
Going to be useful as hell controlling my tv
When one arm is trapped by your wife, gf, concubine, etc
glacial knot
you have 3 arms?
brisk glen
One arm, not an arm lol
green inlet
When one arm is trapped by your wife, gf, concubine, etc
Ohh to be young and in love. I just say, “move your arm so I can change the channel on the tv.”
deft pewter
That's pretty polite still
brisk glen
Heh
green inlet
Well....it is the discord off-topic channel.
brisk glen
I think it’s a good idea to be nice to your own personal doctor
deft pewter
Free prostate exams whenever you want one.
low harness
OMG! Hurry up and look at this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgwusaEWNuk
Moment over. They made a paint bucket tool for the slicer and use it to paint parts of a model to use different materials. Magic!
deft pewter
That's one typo away from being a fetish.
clear ferry
surreal pilot
I’m trying to come up with a Smarthome Score of sorts. It factors the household size and square footage compared to the number of devices. I have a spreadsheet with a list of device types that can be factored. Wondering if there are any other devices that people might use that I don’t have on my list. I plan on putting this into a Google Sheet to share.
My list includes: Desktop, Laptop, Smartphone, Tablet, Smart Speaker, Router/switch/AP, Server, Raspberry Pi/NUC, Smart Bulb, Smart Switch, Smart Outlet, Button, Sensor, Camera, Smart Appliance, Smart Lock
static schooner
figured that was some Britishism
deft pewter
It's late and I had a long day.
clear ferry
forest edge
I thought tesla cars had something in place to make this impossible lol https://youtu.be/pgnzK07cQkY
gleaming ridge
shot in the dark, anyone have any idea why the "Basics" colors of Bali shades cost about 1/2 of all the other colors? the price of a 69"x57" window roller shade goes from like 150->450 just by choosing any color besides the "Basics" line
are they shit material or something?
forest edge
dunno but the woman likes thier floor cleaner lol
forest edge
@clear ferrystop slacking and get to work. https://youtu.be/NewFzGoyY5I
ashen kayak
that is way more about clocks than I would be interested in
glacial knot
Never try to say that with a faulty 'L' key
ashen kayak
pretty sure if I had a bad L key id buy a new keyboard
dusky plank
clear ferry
oh boy
relearning hpux lvm and drd
haven't played much with this in a few years
what can go wrong
OS mirroring is so nice though, migrating from two old SAN systems to two new ones is just magic
or heck, redundancy across SAN without introducing bullshit on top
deft pewter
Every time I see 'Anathema', I think of Adema: https://open.spotify.com/track/6adhpSbrhat9S0WEVjf4HP?si=16e57a53a3da4b1d
forest edge
that dude in that video sure does like to repeat himself lol
hushed basalt
last cedar
LoL
clear ferry
lOl
glacial knot
pipe oh pipe?
dusky plank
theres a custom integration for that
hushed basalt
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
clear ferry
I seem to have misplaced my wedding ring somehow
quite impressive since I have 10 or so rings, that I either wear all or none, and they are stored in the same place
noble pivot
Your wife might "missplace" you shortly 🤣
clear ferry
eh, sentimentally I don't care much, but it is worth $1100ish
noble pivot
Such a romantic !!
hushed basalt
I'm sure it'll turn up immediately after you buy a replacement
deft pewter
eh, I love my wife, not rings
I haven't lost my ring, I just don't wear it... same reason. The marriage itself matters more than a piece of metal round my finger.
Hell, even being married is a stupid idea. Only makes sense for some of the extra legal benefits it brings... and that's changing as civil partnerships get more recognition.
forest edge
10 wedding rings wtf. do you end up with 10 toe rings at the end as well?
last cedar
Ooooh, toe rings!
clear ferry
I never said I had 10 wedding rings
crisp sapphire
well, took my CCNA 2. Man that exam was hard
hushed basalt
hushed basalt
I should do some certs
crisp sapphire
I thought tesla cars had something in place to make this impossible lol https://...
they have. The car "nags" the driver for steering wheel/wheel button input every 30 seconds. if no input is detected, the car slowly rolls to a stop and engages the hazards. Guy must've used a defeat device.
eager gull
help.
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
If you need help @eager gull please find the relevant channel and ask there
lapis cipher
desert vapor
After changing from a self-printed housing, for my Rpi4, with active cooling to an Argon One without active cooling (at the moment), simply drop the temperature by 20°C
bold vault
so far my favorite part of my trawling to understand the hatred of Ubiquiti is that most people in here call it Ubiquity.
@clear ferry so, your entire case is predicated on the fact that ubiquiti is bad for enterprise?
well not case but....hatred?
dusky plank
I'm here to say that Unifi is bad for consumers too 👋
bold vault
I'm here to say that Unifi is bad for consumers too 👋
Why?
clear ferry
they are a company that caters network amateurs into thinking they deliver enterprise class hardware, while having downplayed data breaches, forcing advertising on their paying customers and threatening their own users to brick their products if they upgrade their older hardware
dusky plank
too expensive, too slow, ADs for paid products
clear ferry
99% of the usebase of ubiquiti need a web-managed switch at best to do what they need
bold vault
I agree that the breach shouldn't have been downplayed. I've never gotten an ad in any of my time using their products so while I've read about it I can't speak to it, none of my friends who use their products have either. I wasn't aware they brick the products? I thought they just stopped providing updates?
Just helped a rural library get setup with 6 APs, and a cloudkey....cost about $1300 altogether (poe switch was leftover)
What would you have recommended in place of that?
I'm asking because I'm genuinely interested in understanding, I'm not a heavy networking guy I work in security
clear ferry
probably any consumer mesh product would have sufficed for public facing services
the omeada has gotten a lot of good reps
bold vault
They did need two separate networks broadcast via different SSIDs
clear ferry
pretty sure mostly any consumer stuff can do that these days
bold vault
hmm, last I tried none of the prosumer stuff could even handle the VLAN portion of that very well
clear ferry
I mostly touch enterprise grade, so not sure, I've just seen a lot of people tout the omeada or whatever it is called lately
many who ran ubiquiti moved to that
I have yet to see a ubi system irl, I've just seen the users who use it and the... interesting issues they face
bold vault
I'll admit I've run into some weird stuff where I'm like "this shouldn't be a problem"
But I just bill them as being affordable compared to Meraki and better than the SUPER GAMER ULTRAROUTERs
clear ferry
I've seen one meraki install in my life, I don't think it still lives
bold vault
I'd never tell someone to deploy ubiquiti gear in the enterprise world
oh meraki is very very common in the small/medium business market
That's who I see Ubiquiti as a competitor to
bold vault
Nice! Yeah I mean, ubiquiti is great for hands-off deployments in small to medium businesses and nonprofits I think
But I only do that out of basically volunteer work, which is again their niche
I'd never tell a network engineer of a large environment that Ubiquiti is worth anything in that case
Also like for my home, I enjoy the convenience of the UDM-pro hosting my cameras, managing my switches and APs and such
I had one of my old-timer sysadmin friends go a bit bananas angry about the Unifi Talk experience as well, for me never having touched telephony it was great to plug in a couple phones and they just work $8/mo for a landline phone has been super helpful for work calls and such.
But I would never suggest that as a solution for more than like...10 users?
bitter pawn
ubiquiti does well for point to point wireless bridges when you get to their >$1k implementations
but their shitty candybar wireless bridges are just that...shit.
bold vault
They're amazing for disaster response/recovery
clear ferry
which disaster response \ recovery ?
bold vault
I mean like natural disaster rapid response scenarios
Large natural disaster affects public services in an area, need distributed communications access to a large area
clear ferry
not sure what they would do in that situation, we have country wide 4g (moving to 5g) coverage, even at sea
even in huge floods you are seldom out of network coverage
bold vault
We have different experiences responding to natural disasters then
clear ferry
because of backup towers
we have proper infrastructure you mean 😄
we stopped selling POTS in 2008
clever mortar
That's 'cos the raccoons stole all the copper 😛
glacial knot
inb4 sonoma jumps in and claims that'll all break down in the next 2 years
bold vault
No, I mean you and I have different experiences going into disaster areas
clear ferry
and my power has been gone for probably less than an hour the last 5 years
glacial knot
pots?
clear ferry
Plain Old Telephone Services
glacial knot
ahh
clever mortar
Aka copper
glacial knot
the only reason I have a landline number: they don't sell internet without one
bold vault
You're also assuming 4G/5G is accessible to everyone at this point which sadly isn't true yet
clever mortar
the only reason I have a landline number: they don't sell internet without one
It's now possible in the UK to buy broadband without phone, but it's pretty recent
glacial knot
well, scope your everyone
bold vault
I mean, feel free to insult the country I live in but that doesn't change the facts of the situation
glacial knot
I could by mobile broadband without a number, but not landline =.=
clear ferry
they stopped servicing landlines here last year
they were best effort from 2008 -> 2020
glacial knot
I include fiber and docsis in landline here .Whatever provides internet in houses
static schooner
clear ferry
wtf
Norwegian law states that every property in Norway must have a phone cable installed. This can be either an analogue line or an ISDN line. It is called fasttelefoni (fixed telephone).
😄
denied
static schooner
I believe everything I read on the interweb
clear ferry
I love that 4 of the listed providers aren't even landline providers
static schooner
lol at applying for a landline "by post or fax"
glacial knot
Fax. A relic only used by governments and healthcare providers. And ruled non-GDPR compatible. Best combination
bitter pawn
i wonder what type of fax-hacking there has been/could be developed
fax's are generally known as secure communications.
wet pilot
its all analog so "the everything" is available
bitter pawn
but its been around for a while
wet pilot
nope, fax is trasmitted in the clear
clever mortar
It's secure in that your average person can't intercept it
So, secure like letters really 😛
bitter pawn
nods
glacial knot
reasoning is that there are no dedicated phone lines anymore, thus fax should be considered transmitted over internet and doesn't have encryption built in
bold vault
Most of the fax lines I've ever seen are digitized at the port they're plugged into
Like sure it's a fax machine...but it's just using the internet
wet pilot
voip to analog boxes are a thing
glacial knot
even if they aren't the entire phone infrastructure is voip and transmitted over internet
static schooner
analog<->voip converters are often used with old alarm systems
wet pilot
faxes are dumb though and need to die. Secure email is a thing. or emailed links that require credentials to view the content
clever mortar
Secure email is "hard"
wet pilot
anyone who legitimately thinks that faxes are better needs to retire
clever mortar
Like walking and chewing is hard 😛
static schooner
it was the same thing with buying a house and dealing with lenders, but they're slowly entering the 21st century
wet pilot
yeah, i was happy that everything before closing was all docusign
just need closing to get there
static schooner
yep, I was able to do most of it via docusign from my phone the last time
wet pilot
though a bunch of that depends on your realtor
mine was good and had everything proper, theirs was bad and she had to scan in their physical docs+sigs for us to digitally sign
clear ferry
Fax you say
I did send one in 2007
But that was just to send some documents to the US branch office
I remember unused to send fax to a friend in the early 90s
Just lul drawings
bitter pawn
lolz
glacial knot
if I want to send handdrawn shit I get out my wacom 😄
I think I've never actually used a fax that wasn't E-Mail at one side of the connection
clear ferry
I think the last fax system I saw was in 2010, and that was just a PCI card in a server the had to have for compliance to some international business
clever mortar
I remember the, ummm, trick in taking a sheet of black paper, inserting it into the fax machine, taping the ends, and then sending it to somebody 😂
Oh look, you're all out of paper and ink
last cedar
clear ferry
worldly axle
Hello
dusky plank
No
worldly axle
What?
clear ferry
deft pewter
Goodbye
dusky plank
clear ferry
lapis cipher
aaaand Finland takes again some metal to the finals
lapis cipher
its actually pretty ok numetal song
the amount of shit on that broadcast... pfew
skipped 99%, peek every now and then, done
bitter pawn
https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-pizza-dj-trash-panda-raccoon-dj-trash-panda-party...
go @last cedar its yo birthday not for real real but for play play
hushed basalt
ruby osprey
how can i make an action to turn a heater on for 30 minutes or so, then turn it off again, but make it triggerable from Siri? I already have apple home integration working
velvet horizonBOT
forest edge
Made me think of <@104768700069990400>
lol i do have messed up schedules but there are reasons for it
deft pewter
It's the meth, isn't it?
forest edge
man I can be so evil, what I was to type surely would have been funny in my eyes but maybe not so much in others lol
orchid rose
Just send Stratovarius
Or Sonata Arctica
Okay boomer. The song seemed okay imo
last cedar
go <@!300242410338910209> its yo birthday not for real real but for play play
Thank you 🤣
clear ferry
man I can be so evil, what I was to type surely would have been funny in my eyes...
https://tenor.com/view/the-wokest-kids-around-pc-principal-south-park-s23e7-board-girls-gif-19502347
tidal bronze
lol i do have messed up schedules but there are reasons for it
Schedules and barns 🤔
celest gazelle
Just my kind of humor
last cedar
glacial knot
https://scontent.farn1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.18169-0/s600x600/13240115_1046714835...
A couple of those don’t look like they’ll stay edible for longer times
Others are fine for years to come
hushed basalt
clear ferry
I found my wedding ring
As expected someone had "borrowed" it and put it somewhere
I printed a fucktopus for rings in the bathroom
You'll love this one @last cedar
forest edge
why am i not surprised you wear a lot of rings lol
clear ferry
You should see my prince Albert
forest edge
no thx
clear ferry
hearty depot
Already seen Solar Opposits?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8910922/
When youre into Rick and Morty chances are youre into it too
deft pewter
Hate Rick and Morty... loved Resident Alien though, which is a similar 'alien trying to fit in' story.
I'll avoid Solar Opposites 😄
hearty depot
well, one is with actors the other is animated
deft pewter
Exactly. Anime 🤢
hearty depot
deft pewter
I watched a lot of Bleach when it was first out but that's the only animated series I could get into.
Anime's just so over the top and full of the same old memes every time.
Not to mention the borderline paedophilic representations of girls in it.
hearty depot
important lesson for animes, dont overthink it
dusky plank
i have my photos in icloud since ~iphone 6
just did a local backup to clear out the icloud
hearty depot
isnt that like super expensive?
dusky plank
backup via photos app on mac os -> 160gb
backup via iphone -> 90gb
wtf
something like 2€/month
deft pewter
Storage is cheap..
hearty depot
not to bad, but f. expensive compared to google potos the last 10 years
due to the "always and forever free photo storage" change finnaly have to finish up my storage at home to be still able to take photos like a madman
dusky plank
I just use cloud backups to a certain degree, then download all of it at a certain point and store them locally
hdds are stupid cheap
hearty depot
meh
200€~14 TB
deft pewter
Why not use something like NextCloud? All the benefits of having a 'cloud' service to copy stuff off a device but still get to use local storage and be in control.
dusky plank
I actually tried nextcloud in the first attempt but the app crashes with > 30.000 photos to sync
deft pewter
Oof. I haven't got that many 😄
I don't take too many snaps on my phone. If I'm going to take real photos, it's with a DSLR and I edit/store them myself.
dusky plank
icloud got in really handy when I was snorkeling in honduras
jumped in the sea with my phone in the pocket
got my photos back later
deft pewter
Today's snap:
hearty depot
awwww
deft pewter
Had to get pet supplies, saw a clip on tie for his collar 😄
forest edge
wtf even your cat looks british
deft pewter
Yes, he's got way more culture and style than your US cats.
He's working from home today though, so he's not wearing his 3-piece suit.
forest edge
your cat would get beaten and mugged and you know it
deft pewter
Just means he's got something your cats want.
He's a total pussy too. He hides from spiders 😂
forest edge
lol
deft pewter
He did try to play with a bee that got into the house last night. Had to get out of bed to free it before it stung him 😐
Our spiders aren't venomous and he doesn't like them. Something with a poisonous sting though... he wants to be best friends.
young sigil
Is that VSauce?
dawn prawn
anyone seen the new roborock s7 ?
glacial knot
It’s the same guy at least
dusky plank
anyone seen the new roborock s7 ?
my s6 maxV is nicely docked, no idea where your s7 cruises around
hushed basalt
I'll be waiting for the s7 maxV
Scrubbing mop, dust bin and machine vision would be my guess
dawn prawn
Scrubbing mop, dust bin and machine vision would be my guess
scrubbing mop, nice
when will that come out do you think?
dawn prawn
clean your room up dude
dawn prawn
yeah i have one 😄
dusky plank
make that tv backlight
forest edge
pretty sure atx had a lamp passed down from his great great grandma that was converted from stuffing sticks and lighting the end to electric requiring a 700w halogen bulb behind that tv at one point. what happened to that thing? did time finally kill it?
dusky plank
how does hyperion even grab image? is it hdmi input?
dawn prawn
yes needs to read the image
dusky plank
ok my hue works fine 🤷♂️
deft pewter
Doesn't have to be HDMI, you can stream data to it.
dawn prawn
its the same as the hue one but cheaper
deft pewter
I have Hyperion running on my server and stream my PC's monitor content to it.
last cedar
You can't skin a raccoon though
deft pewter
You can, it'd just make you a really horrible person
deft pewter
The raccoon scene in What We Do In The Shadows was great 😂
dusky plank
I kind of need the hue sync app for linux
for now I just grab the image in a mac machine with a hdmi usb grabber
forest edge
don't they make tv's with built in ambient lighting now?
dawn prawn
yeah the philips one
forest edge
as cheap as tv's are just upgrade to one of those lol
dusky plank
nah, philips + 4k + 120hz ain't cheap
and it's crap too compared to lgs
although it's just a LG panel
dawn prawn
would not buy a philips panel
well yes
but not like a CX
I have the Sony A8H and have been really happy with it
dusky plank
wonder how the matrix 4 will be
forest edge
that sony tv was on a hot sale through the amazon deal thingie they do once a year for 800
was a really good deal and it went really fast lol
dawn prawn
bloody hell
i bet
RRP was $5000 AUD here, managed to get it for $3400 through Sony with my works partnership program
clever mortar
dawn prawn
my work was big on returning to the office, and didn't even want to have people at home, even with something like 20 odd cases in the building haha
hearty depot
yea, so me
Now they want us back in the office. For me, that's a loss of 2 hours daily sitting in traffic, plus the getting ready in the morning. That comes at the cost of losing sleep and personal time. I finally had a healthy work-life balance.
prepping for bargaining, I love this job I got now. but when its coming down I'm ready to quit. As sysadmin/engineer I'm not required in the the office.
But currently 1d/w - this is ok, but fucks my sleeping scedule sideways
deft pewter
Even 1 day a week is too much if your job can be done from home. Time in office should be optional now unless a role demands it.
clever mortar
Official line here is that while they expect roughly 50% attendance, they don't require it (come in if it's better for you) and have admitted that it's going to be months to years before that's normal
deft pewter
I'll be handing my notice in when I'm asked to go back.
inner vault
I've been 100% WFH for almost 7 years... I would love optional office days haha
clever mortar
Yeah, there's a balance for sure 😄
There are things I miss about the office, but that's as much to do with the people and the way we work as anything else. It's hard to have spur of the moment chats with folks if you're not physically there.
deft pewter
I want the option to go in if I choose to. Just to occasionally see people and grab lunch together.
inner vault
but mandatory office? that's gonna need to be like a 1.3 salary demand multiplier at least
hearty depot
not paying for offices is defenitly a sweet deal for an employer
clever mortar
Or paying for less office space
deft pewter
not paying for offices is defenitly a sweet deal for an employer
My employer signed leases for new buildings right before the pandemic. You can bet that's part of why they're going to force us to attend.
Sunk cost fallacy. They think we need to use it because they already spent the money. Fuck what's best for us.
hearty depot
round about the same, we had a new office for like 4 monts 🤣
inner vault
we had a main office for C-level and meetings with high level clients, even though the whole org is techincally WFH, we let the lease lapse and now have a PO box instead.
deft pewter
we had a main office for C-level and meetings with high level clients, even thou...
This is the way.
I opened myself up to recruiters again on LinkedIn and I'm not even responding to anything that doesn't state the job is fully remote in their opening pitch.
Having an office I can go to once in a while, sure. Any minimum expectation around days spend there is a solid no from me.
inner vault
I'm a bit sad that I never got to go, it was in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letterman_Digital_Arts_Center sharing space with ILM and there was a ton of star wars stuff all over the place
deft pewter
This past year has been amazing for work/life balance, even in the midst of a pandemic. I'm not going back to a commute and being distracted constantly in an open-plan office.
clever mortar
I do plan on going back to the office, but only a couple of days a week, and some weeks maybe only once 
I'll get less work done those days though 😄
inner vault
WFH was a lot easier before I had two kids < 4 years old
deft pewter
I enjoy being productive and find myself most productive when I'm left alone. Going back to an office any number of days is going to result in lost productivity and less happiness with my role.
inner vault
I also miss public transit commutes where I could read in peace
deft pewter
I've stayed this long because I'm happy with my role. I won't stay if that changes.
inner vault
I'd never do a driving commute though, fuck that.
clever mortar
I've lost about 90 minutes of reading time a day since lockdown started 😂
deft pewter
I'd never do a driving commute though, fuck that.
My options for the new office location are either 4 hours a day on public transport of 2 hours a day driving. Neither are acceptable.
inner vault
oof
glacial knot
I'd never do public transport commute. Did that as student. That's enough
clever mortar
Trains are great here
deft pewter
The old location... 7 minutes each way. I didn't mind that as a commute.
glacial knot
well, outside maybe long distance train to munich (~30min) because those aren't local public transport sucky levels
last cedar
You can, it'd just make you a really horrible person
A terrible person
low harness
We weren't even testing for that.
deft pewter
For how horrible I am? No need, it's already well known that I'm awful.
Trying to learn some Ruby in case an internal move comes up to a department I'd like to be on... it was initially really weird working with Ruby syntax but it's so powerful 😮
hushed basalt
I enjoy my part wfh part office
Commute on the train is pretty easy and cheap,
It's also nice to just sleep in and stay in shorts
But going into the office is great too. It's good to be around other people, and have free drinks
Webex can't replace in person communication
wet pilot
don't miss it and haven't for years. Been full WFH since before all this started
deft pewter
In-person communication is overrated. We've gotten our jobs done just fine without sitting in the same room. If I want to socialise, I'll choose who to spend time around, not be forced to fake politeness with all the jerks in the office.
glacial knot
y'all wear different clothes to the office than at home?
wet pilot
i never have my webcam on so i just throw random shit on at home
t-shirts and shorts aren't typically good office attire
wet pilot
depends on the company
bitter pawn
whats up mah trash pandas
glacial knot
we were talking about the right dress code to make money
clear ferry
Part WFH
Full wfh or customer site 
Dress code, what is that? I wear shorts and sandals
My coral discovered an interesting bird pose
glacial knot
have customers ever tried to have you follow their dress code?
opaque girder
is that midfly or actually the leaning bird of pisa?
clear ferry
have customers ever tried to have you follow their dress code?
I've never heard of that in civilized countries no
clear ferry
is that midfly or actually the leaning bird of pisa?
I think it was mid jump before it spread it's wings
glacial knot
I've heard of banks being incredibly stupid about their dress codes
clear ferry
I was in a bank yesterday, with my Rick and Morty t-shirt and shoddy sneakers
🤣
I need to buy new ones, the seams are coming apart
glacial knot
shirt or sneakers?
clear ferry
Sneakers
I often work at financial institutions, hospitals, universities and other upper class areas, I've never had anyone comment on my dress code atleast
🤣
glacial knot
all the university professors I know are just alcoholics that hide well 🤣
and I should check who serviced the big computer at my Uni. though I think it was the associated company
hm, IBM built it. So i guess they also got some IBM guys in when there were issues /shrug
And it dropped to spot 15 😮
clear ferry
IBM doesn't do any interesting hardware anymore anyway
Just their mainframe bullcrap
glacial knot
¯_(ツ)_/¯
clear ferry
The Lumi system will be interesting
Also the UK Isambard
Not sure if that is up and running yet
And the Lumi successor in Italy
bitter pawn
https://tenor.com/view/posh-peter-rich-british-penis-gif-19919427
this is me in call of duty multiplayer
celest pine
last cedar
Baby steps. It will eventually
deft pewter
What do you mean it's not an instantaneous process? 😮
Deepstack is unsupervised, right? Takes a while to tune it.
last cedar
I am really not sure. It doesn't seem to be as evolved as googles
But stuff still seems to use it
deft pewter
DeepStack is an Open-Source AI API engine that serves pre-built models and custom models...
Supervised then, I guess. Odd that it takes a while to work.
But ML is basically magic, so I won't pretend to understand it.
dusky plank
just upgraded to http/3 🥳
deft pewter
🎉
hearty depot
Internet Story time
Freenode has been taken over? Freenode is dead?
https://hackaday.com/2021/05/20/freenode-debacle-prompts-staff-exodus-new-network/
forest edge
think i may have found atx's youtube channel https://youtu.be/SuCohvn0wqA
clear ferry
Just do lead based
hushed basalt
It's sad that all these amazing substances are toxic
Like asbestos. Pretty amazing stuff except for the fact that it's deadly af
forest edge
well deadly under specific circumstances
clear ferry
I'm deadly under specific circumstances
forest edge
only within smell range
hushed basalt
well deadly under specific circumstances
Yeah, only when it's being mined, processed, stored, transported, transformed, cleaned, sanded, modified, repaired, removed, disposed
deft pewter
Yeah, only those times 😄
clear ferry
So just like me
glacial knot
getting hot, or too cold
deft pewter
The Russians have rebranded asbestos so they can keep trying to sell it 
glacial knot
well, I guess it'd be deadly when atx gets hot
deft pewter
Chrysotile not only sounds less scary, it really is, said Mr. Kochelayev, skimming over the fact that it is a carcinogen.
clear ferry
forest edge
Yeah, only when it's being mined, processed, stored, transported, transformed, c...
only when inhaled or ingested would be a much shorter description
hushed basalt
You're not seriously downplaying asbestos
glacial knot
you don't have to snack on it, for it to be deadly
forest edge
you have to inhale or ingest it..
hushed basalt
That's like saying you have to breath water into your lungs for the ocean to be dangerous
forest edge
and not small quantities either
forest edge
That's like saying you have to breath water into your lungs for the ocean to be ...
umm no, asbestos don't contain sharks
deft pewter
That's what you think.
glacial knot
That's what it wants you to think 😄
forest edge
been around the stuff my whole life, considering the original shingles of this and many other houses in the US are made of it not to mention many businesses have a coating of it in the structure it's hard to not be around. as long as you don't play with it and eat it, your fine lol
more likely to get cancer from the sun
clear ferry
If you want to renovate a house with asbestos plates in Norway you have to call specialists, and it has to be handled as dangerous waste
deft pewter
Being around it doesn't mean it's safe. It just means you haven't had problems yet.
forest edge
the fact that you CAN have it says it all
it's banned here for residential use but not sure about commercial
clear ferry
It's been banned for all use here for 30 years
deft pewter
the fact that you CAN have it says it all
Says what? That are innumerable studies showing how dangerous it is. You telling us that it's not doesn't mean shit.
forest edge
at what point did i say it wasn't?
I'm just not agreeing with the up playing it's dangers by simply being in proximity of it lol
deft pewter
No-one claimed that simply being around it is dangerous. We all know it's the dust that's dangerous.
The trouble is that it's so easy to create dust when doing almost anything with it.
forest edge
thus why it's banned
dusky plank
came here for some bans, got disappointed
forest edge
or in atx's scenario, can only be installed by a specialist
clear ferry
Or removed
deft pewter
I think atx means removal...
forest edge
well which is it? removed or installed?
clear ferry
Since it hasn't been installed for over 30 years, I would say handled
forest edge
lol
pretty sure it's still used by military here. it's benefits to cost ratio is far too good to be completely shelved. just don't know if commercial can install it or not
deft pewter
Militaries aren't known for doing what's best.
clear ferry
Atleast ours are sensible enough to not use it
Yada yada proper healthcare and veteran treatment
forest edge
Atleast ours are sensible enough to not use it
wouldn't exactly call your mace toting bicyclist military..
glacial knot
yea, that one isn't exactly an example of organizations that care about human health
forest edge
don't worry, i'm sure they will link something that's present or about to be common to all kinds of illness sooner or later
gotta keep that scare train a rollin
forest edge
well with your 3d prints...
deft pewter
That dihydrogen monoxide is pretty terrible.
glacial knot
yea, all of the known cancer patients consumed vast amounts of it
hushed basalt
There's plenty of guys in their young 20s in hospital with permanent lung damage from working with stone benchtops etc
Lots of shit is very dangerous,
Sometimes it kills you that day. Sometimes it kills you slowly
green inlet
Wow, this was news to me, I thought asbestos was banned in the U.S. also
https://www.asbestos.com/mesothelioma-lawyer/legislation/ban/
Of course that link is from a lawyer who does asbestos suits but......
static schooner
Didn’t know that either. I do see a ton of mesothelioma lawyer ads on tv
They pick up every last slot in a commercial break
clear ferry
I remember 10\15 years ago here, they found some asbestos in a school
they closed it down until sanitatizion
think it took a few weeks to get the crews to fix it
green inlet
So, that is the same scenario that I believed. In the walls, absolutely. Major project and has to be removed by specialists
clear ferry
this was just some stray asbestos in a attic or something, in one part of the school
green inlet
Yes, same scenario here
clear ferry
usually if older houses from the 50s are sold here with asbestos plates on the sides, people buy the house, then tear it all down and build a new house
green inlet
Well, a house here wouldn’t pass inspection if it had asbestos in the walls. You would be stupid to buy it unless you were going to tear it down.
That link says
Although it is highly regulated in the U.S. today, asbestos continues to be used in hundreds of consumer products as long as it accounts for less than one percent of the product.
glacial knot
and they wonder why we make fun of their regulators...
green inlet
I didn’t say I agreed with it
And @glacial knot , would you like me to google your country and find multiple things that are dangerous and not regulated?
glacial knot
have fun o/
green inlet
ONE PERCENT OF CANCER ISN'T DANGEROUS HONEY
And one percent of cancer != less than one percent of the product 😉
clear ferry
Nothing is dangerous in Germany, they are regulated like n.... Nery regulated people 🤣
glacial knot
if there's no ISO, there got to be at least one DIN
green inlet
Yes, after a bit of googling, I can see why ongy is jealous of American freedom. FFS, talk about regulation.
glacial knot
Yea. You can't even get recent headlight tech with all you freedoms. Great freedom 😂
green inlet
right, because I need tech in my headlights....I need my headlights to be bright. Although, I am not sure what you are referring too? The headlights on my 2003 Durango did the job. I will gladly give up this headlight technology you reference to be able to use a hammer on Sunday.
But you do you
glacial knot
I know that you don't know. Because you've never seen good ones
hm? I can use a hammer on a Sunday. You must have read that wrong. I'm just guaranteed to not have loud neighbours on my days off
green inlet
So I misunderstood the way things actually are? Maybe you should read that again 😉
glacial knot
Read what?
glacial knot
Why? Because it's Latin? https://www.etymonline.com/word/leviathan
glacial knot
Nah, Frank's my boss. Sorry, you got the wrong one
clear ferry
Frenckly my dear
glacial knot
nah, I think none of us got freckles
low harness
All affischering utom affischering om affischering förbjuden förbjuden.
They missed an opportunity
opaque girder
Wow an albino racoon
glacial knot
with slightly long ears
opaque girder
a common genetic mutation in albinism
lofty orchid
Still a work in progress for the Lear Siegler ADM-31. There were 4 or 5 other methods to read character input that didn't work on the adm31 but worked on my vt220. when you turn the terminal outlet on for 5 seconds it runs a shell command to the terminal pi via ssh to launch the tour selection program. When you press a or s it launches a webhook to home assistant to start that tour. 1 minute after a tour is selected the terminal outlet turns off.
lofty orchid
The terminal outlet will end up being activated by a motion sensor
tame sand
Just took a closer look at homeassistant analytics: there are 11 people running 1970.1.0
and one guy running 1970.1.0.dev19700101
wondering whats up with those
low harness
Epoch fail!
tame sand
i know... but the dev version?
clear ferry
Epoch fail!
I lolled irl
hearty depot
I lol'd hard, Austrian again
hushed basalt
forest edge
don't get why anyone would want a arm based windows on a 2 in 1.
crisp sapphire
Can someone tell me why every damn UPS uses a lead acid battery?
i find this laughable
forest edge
lots of reason
mostly cost and saftey
reason why cars still come with lead acid batteries
raven sentinel
Anyone switched from iPhone to Samsung? Did you regret?
hushed basalt
Can someone tell me why every damn UPS uses a lead acid battery?
Because it's far cheaper, less volatile and UPSes don't need to move
Why is your toilet not made out of carbon fibre
It's far lighter
crisp sapphire
Anyone switched from iPhone to Samsung? Did you regret?
Me. No regrets, only moderate dissapointment
hushed basalt
Samsung is the worst
crisp sapphire
how come?
hushed basalt
Shitty OS, bixby buttons, spyware force installed, can't root
crisp sapphire
Because it's far cheaper, less volatile and UPSes don't need to move
I dont buy this. Modern LFP's are superior in every way. I dont see how a 300$ lead acid UPS with a runtime of 30 mins at 200W is usable
hushed basalt
What are you basing that opinion on
crisp sapphire
Shitty OS, bixby buttons, spyware force installed, can't root
Most of the above is enforced on alot of vendors. eFuses & enclaves come standard with snapdragons since 2018
crisp sapphire
What are you basing that opinion on
looking around on yt, google and reddit. Cyberpower, APC.. etc.
hushed basalt
Internet is full of a lot of armchair experts
hushed basalt
A 12v 7aH SLA battery retail $25
crisp sapphire
i need NUT aswell. But it isnt a dealbreaker
hushed basalt
A LiFEPO4 battery would be way more than that retail
crisp sapphire
and im ready to pay for that. I just dont see why the option is missing
hushed basalt
Most UPSes aren't made for sustained runtime
They're made for tiny interruptions and safe shutdown
200W is a lot of power
I know how much power 80-100W cameras use with lithium batteries
crisp sapphire
might just build one. I need big boi bank that can keep my stuff online for 10 hours or more
hushed basalt
Why though
crisp sapphire
Never ending construction, regular and prolonged power cuts
hushed basalt
If your grid power is that bad you probably want to look at a charger inverter system
crisp sapphire
Iv lost stuff because of the random cuts. Mid write, poof, 5 machines down
hushed basalt
You're going to spend a lot of money to go from 30 minutes to 10 hours
static schooner
That doesn’t require 10 hours to fix
crisp sapphire
the real bummer is that i live in an apartment. If i had a house, it wouldnt be a prob. Solar glass roof and 2 powerwalls, done.
static schooner
Keeping it up for that long implies that everything that uses it also stays up, including all infrastructure
crisp sapphire
That doesn’t require 10 hours to fix
Eh, a little bragging rights aswell lol. 10h is overkill. But like atleast 3h
static schooner
If you just want to prevent corruption, just shut stuff down
hushed basalt
If you just want to prevent corruption, just shut stuff down
This
If you want to do this, just be real
It's a hobby not a necessity
hushed basalt
Like people who spend $100k and 10000 hours working on hobby cars
crisp sapphire
It's a hobby not a necessity
Well ofc it is. Its a first world annoyance
never said it was mission critical stuff. I mean im gonna be upgrading to enterprise networking.. for my 60 m² apartment
but it sure is annoying. Mid shit, power goes to shit
considering building my own frankenstein solusion.
With poor safety and all (jk)
hushed basalt
Just get a used rack mount UPS for $100, make sure your Network UPS setup and procedures are right, and then move on
crisp sapphire
perhaps
hushed basalt
Then spend that time and effort you would have wasted on something else. A hobby, upskilling
hushed basalt
Then spend that time and effort you would have wasted on something else. A hobby...
And money *
crisp sapphire
engineering is my hobby
hushed basalt
Building home built power systems for a hobby?
crisp sapphire
building a solusion and spending 10x the money and 100x the time is right up my alley
crisp sapphire
Building home built power systems for a hobby?
All things computers, electronics and science. From collecting random elements to deep diving into how differential signaling works
oh and, i love batteries. Probably more time spent researching batteries then almost anything else.
crisp sapphire
THIS
glacial knot
There’s enough about differential signaling to deep dive? I felt like it’s a cool but simple thing
forest edge
lipo's aren't commonly recycled either
lithium is great for some things, like your phone, watch etc.. but I wouldn't waste my money on them for bigger applications
watched some video where dude swapped out his sla for lithium batteries for a solar battery bank and omfg the cost about made me choke but the lifetime on them is also less so it's like why in the fuck would you do that lol
last cedar
Re ups discussion earlier. I ended up with an SMT1000i for my rack. :)
The new lithium ones are currently eyewateringly expensive
forest edge
lithium wasn't really made to replace sla in every scenario. just small stuff. lithium battery in a power tool is way lighter than sla etc
last cedar
Mmmm, seems that thry are pushing lithium tech for UPS too now, though
Talking of ups, what is the apc software used for configuring a modern unit via usb?
Powerchute?
Want to setup battery test interval. And such
forest edge
lithium will always be pushed for two reasons
they make more money and the batteries average life spans are lower
apc was powerchute eons ago, not sure if it's still the case
last cedar
I will give it a look. Gonna use NUT for shutdown
forest edge
yea should work fine. nut works for my old apc lol
forest edge
I had to turn something off through the nut command line for my apc cause it would constantly give some kind of battery alert which was annoying
I don't remember what it was exactl;y
something with FSD
if you happen to run across that
last cedar
Cheers!
clear ferry
last cedar
It is apparently powerchute business
It seems like pretty ok software I think
Time will tell if it does what I want it to do though
Need to grab myself a switch so I can get the router running in the new rack
but at least I can start with the blue iris machine
clear ferry
Blue iris 🤢
last cedar
We have had this discussion before 😛
glacial knot
atx is blue on my side. So maybe that's a reason to avoid blue /shrug
last cedar
You are okay as long as you are not raw meat
forest edge
atx is the buy no brand queen of tech. always take his opinions with a truck sized grain of salt
clear ferry
glacial knot
because he doesn't buy stuff. He just lets his employer have the truck priced version delivered to him
clear ferry
last cedar
Buying stuff through work is under rated tbh
forest edge
really feels like the international news is bouncing all over the place anymore
forest edge
at least sweden gives more for foreign aid than norway. you got that much going for you lol
glacial knot
hey, they have contributed as control group
last cedar
at least sweden gives more for foreign aid than norway. you got that much going ...
It clearly isn't doing shit. People infecting each other. People killing each other. People destroying the planet.
So much fun in the world
forest edge
yea well that's why there are a wide variety of views on the matter from wasting money/aiding the shit to it's not enough yada yada.
I think conflict is just natural and it's the one's who don't like it that are the rarity. sure we all have conscious between right and wrong but telling you right now sending a fart bomb to norway will make more people feel good than those who feel bad
last cedar
I really wish no one had had thr idea of bullets and bombs
And we actually were friendly with each other
forest edge
well if there are any truth to Hollywood movies.. one day aliens will annihilate most of europe and the remaining part of the world will come together as one unity
last cedar
I believe it will probably take something like that happening to make change
For like 5 minutes till someone tries to take over and a fight breaks out
glacial knot
Gah. Grower lamps are way too expensive
clear ferry
Fun fact @forest edge we never see Europe in the alien invasion movies, so for all we know they just invaded the easy to invade country and left the rest of the world alone 🤣
I just had an epiphany, instead of rsyncing volumes between my nodes, I can just do lvm mirrors
forest edge
@clear ferryyou never see europe invaded in your ONE alien movie? lol
or was it more like a drama theater
last cedar
I just had an epiphany, instead of rsyncing volumes between my nodes, I can just...
You can do what
clear ferry
lvm gurl
Just present a iSCSI volume from my Nas to any client
Then copy data from the client to the lvm lv
Then mirror the local drive in the vg
clear ferry
One virtual iSCSI volume from an arbitrary source
One physical drive in a server
Create a lvm group
Mirror the two
clear ferry
deft pewter
Nice, you've memorised some shapes.
forest edge
it's always the weirdos like him that play that shit too
deft pewter
Nothing wrong with Duolingo...
You'll never learn the whole language that way but it's a great intro.
forest edge
chicken scratch.. get it right
glacial knot
日本語は難しい
deft pewter
I got stuck after the kanji for nihongo. My Japanese is really rusty after 10 years of not studying it.
I remember signing up for a Japanese social media thing while I was studying. Couldn't figure out how to unsubscribe again because I couldn't read the bloody links. 😢
glacial knot
:’D
clear ferry
I need to study before travelling though
It will probably 5-6 weeks when we first go
forest edge
don't worry, even knowing the language thoroughly won't stop you from coming across as a cunt
deft pewter
What's the best Charlton Heston movie and why is it Soylent Green?
green inlet
worldly axle
hi
coral birch
@halcyon dawn hi
slate seal
<@417380548986667010> hi
hi
coral birch
hi
clear ferry
deft pewter
Yeah... Americans thinking they're international when they don't even have a passport 😂
glacial knot
I assumed they are saying they are from a different part of the country 😂
deft pewter
No. Americans have this whole thing of proclaiming that they're 'half Irish and half Spanish' or whatever bullshit sounds good. If you ask them about their heritage, someone six generations ago stepped foot in those countries for 5 minutes while changing boats or something.
Like, we get that the USA is a 'melting pot' but just because your great great great great great grandpa once visited somewhere, doesn't mean it's an integral part of your identity.
tidal bronze
So grandma counts 🤔
deft pewter
Personally, I'd say so, yes. If you have a close relative that actually lived somewhere else and migrated, you at least had some contact with someone with a different culture.
3+ generations back? That's a stretch.
glacial knot
also depends on whether they keep any customs, or try to mostly "if in rome, do like romans"
deft pewter
Another exception would be if you live in quite a close-knit community. No idea what it's like over there but in the UK, some cities have quite large minority communities. They'll identify as Indian even if they've lived here their whole life, because their whole community, and therefore culture, is Indian.
glacial knot
I know people (2nd generation immigrants) that get feisty if you imply they aren't just normal Germans
deft pewter
If they feel more strongly about their German culture than that of their grandparents, that's cool.
deft pewter
They look like something you'd find on /r/teenagers
And I can't stand /r/showerthoughts. They all think they're so clever.
last cedar
Tripplites?
bitter pawn
js
last cedar
Aha, UPS
bitter pawn
they do a shit ton better than those consumer grade UPS'
last cedar
I already got my APC though!
bitter pawn
😦
last cedar
But thanks for the tip
bitter pawn
i had a cyberpower rackmount worked great too.
until the wire burnt up connecting the battery
clear ferry
The 2200va was $140
bitter pawn
replaced the wire, was back up and running
last cedar
bitter pawn
redirected me to a shit apc box.
last cedar
Yeah, nothing is plugged in hahahaha
clear ferry
Plug it in
bitter pawn
like the ones you plug into office computers.
last cedar
I have a cyberpower tower too. Same line as the apc (small business)
I am downsizing and modernising, expecting about 120W load on the UPS
200W ish today
last cedar
Yeah
bitter pawn
suspiciously low.
last cedar
I am not trying to break rsa encryption Atx
last cedar
I just keep inventory of all my doormat sales
last cedar
If you are using internet explorer, yes
deft pewter
IE's finally got a retirement date. 🎉
clever mortar
Yeah, but what's the odds that IE Mode in Edge is really just IE... 😄
static schooner
poor junior engineer assigned to that
forest edge
No. Americans have this whole thing of proclaiming that they're 'half Irish and ...
i mean if you have a whole back history showing your ancestors are from somewhere or a DNA test showing you are part this or part that.. not exactly wrong to say.. I'm half whatever
deft pewter
Ancestry and culture aren't the same thing though. I'm sure I'm like one-sixteenth viking or something but I don't tell people I'm a viking.
forest edge
but that's you
deft pewter
Yes, me. A sane person that doesn't make ostentatious claims.
forest edge
and plus after seeing @clear ferry who would want to say they part whatever he is
it's not a "claim" if it's fact..
deft pewter
'I have Irish ancestry' isn't the same thing as 'I am Irish'
forest edge
we don't say I am irish, we say we are part irish
well unless you are actually irish cause we have those too lol it's very common for people to move here from other countries.. just look at our southren border lmao
clear ferry
I'm 100% a wanker
deft pewter
Nothing to do with heritage, just your culture.
forest edge
social status
deft pewter
He doesn't have any of that 😄
I forgot how childish gamers are. Joined a server for a game, hoping to pick up tips - instead, it's just a bunch of 12 year olds insulting each other.
dull chasm
culture and heritage can be and often is two different things.... a child will grow up in his enviorment none the less of and completely seperate of his roots(cultrue)
deft pewter
That's pretty much my point.
forest edge
dosen't make them any less than part whatever when thier dna indicates as such lol
dull chasm
completly vailid .... i dont understand any or all types of hate of a race ...we are are a product of our enviorment
clever mortar
Eh... if we worry about that I'm part Skandi... can't say that it's exactly significant 😄
clear ferry
"his great grandfather was Irish, he must love drinking"
dull chasm
@forest edge does not matter
clear ferry
@clever mortar you've got some Scandinavian in you ? Want some more ? 
dull chasm
no it does not ....we are people that should become a better than where we started
clever mortar
I hear the banned the rack though... 🤔
The only other option I have for becoming taller would be a press...
forest edge
in most cases heritage does filter down. rather it be some exterior feature or taste or whatever
dull chasm
@forest edge is still typing ... is that genetic