#the-water-cooler

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velvet horizonBOT
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There can be only one.

deft pewter
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You know what it does. No need to keep triggering it.

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We have #botspam for that.

tame sand
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but .... but ....

lapis cipher
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ban! ban! ban!

sleek bear
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the Z-350 is pretty easy to shut down properly, turn the output off but leave it plugged in, it will then clean itself

tame sand
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lol

lapis cipher
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๐Ÿ˜„

sleek bear
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Was not mine when it was rented out

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I got it from the guy who was doing it

lapis cipher
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some do it when they lose dmx control, many ways but they are mostly broken because the user didn't do it properly

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ie. power off, cold and blind

sleek bear
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yes, this one does the cleaning too when losing dmx, but it can also run without dmx

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the HZ-100 is more tricky... there is only one way to power it down, and that is just to kill it...

lapis cipher
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we have one nice device which screwes up the dmx network when connected to it, at some point, it kinda works over dmx but..

sleek bear
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use an isolated dmx splitter on it

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I had some scanners doing that too...

lapis cipher
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yeah its isolated alright, i think it got fixed too, can't remember, its been quite a time since last gig..

sleek bear
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Most of my stuff is something I purchased broken, then fixed them

lapis cipher
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home festival cancelled second year in a row, there is some hope for the late summer festivals still but many from the early july already cancelled

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good stuff, i would be happy to know you and live nearby to bring my shit to your workshop ๐Ÿ˜„

sleek bear
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Pretty amazed by this, I converted a moving head from HID to LED

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using some 230V 100W led's from ebay and some cheap cpu coolers from aliexpress

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needed that cpu cooler too, the air coming out was almost as warm as it was with the HID bulb in

lapis cipher
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dunno how many watts this had but it sucked big time!

sleek bear
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oh stay away from those! Just like Velcro! It's a total rip-off

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I am selling my vacuum cleaner, it is just gathering dust.

last cedar
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Nn everyone!!! ๐Ÿฆ

lapis cipher
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nn!

sleek bear
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gn

lapis cipher
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bloody hell, got stuck watching photos from festivals few years back, there is still tiny (no i'm not optimistic) chance some would actually happen this year still

sleek bear
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I am looking at pictures too...

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Gin and tonic, and a bit of mango

lapis cipher
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that, or..

deft pewter
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That sounds almost perfect. All I'd change is I'd leave the gin and tonic out.

sleek bear
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and drink the concentrated mango pure? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

lapis cipher
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think you could also drink eggs

sleek bear
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haze from the Z-350 is pretty good too, not as fine as from the HZ-100, but still pretty good.

lapis cipher
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(no that wasn't drinkable, a weird machine that made some sort of egg thingie...)

sleek bear
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I like to do cable management....

lapis cipher
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show the other end.. ๐Ÿ˜„

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but sure, have to agree on that with you, nice'n'clean

sleek bear
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it isn't actually that bad, I got different length EIC cables

lapis cipher
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a rare few people have a truss inside their apartment ๐Ÿ™‚

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whats your control surface?

sleek bear
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Always good to have a bit of fun

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I am using MyDMX 3.0

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not crazy advanced, but gets the job done

lapis cipher
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that's the main thing, whatever suits you

sleek bear
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Using a raspberry pi with pygame to run the ambient rain as a constant background music, then mixing the different sounds in on top of it

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Also added so it could control dmx, so if it found a .dmx file in the same directory as the .wav file, it would start another thread and run it in parallel of the sound file

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so it was possible to use strobe only for when the lightening sound was triggered

hollow glacier
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@sleek bear i might want to pick your brain about a project that just landed in my lap

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2 snow cone trucks that need a shitload of LEDs on the outside

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i've added them to my house before using the WLED firmware with arduinos and ws2812b strips..

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but never done a car/truck

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would i need a giant cap between battery and strips to not kill the battery?

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12v strips suggested?

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aluminum diffusers for heat dissipation?

sleek bear
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6wD-qMT-ys Here it should look like a greenhouse, filled with plants and actors in planlike clothes and plantlike makeup. When entering the light is on, sound is pleasant and nice. When an actor presses the trigger it will fade the light out while fading to a more hostile sound while the actors also gets hostile. Also a fun project... the dimmer was just so hard to control, the time it took to react changed depending on the ambient temperature

deft pewter
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I'm surprised @lapis cipher hasn't nudged people over to #diy-archived yet

sleek bear
hollow glacier
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right

lapis cipher
sleek bear
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got nothing to do with HA ๐Ÿ˜„

hollow glacier
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i know i can do multi channel with an esp32 and WLED firmware so i can figure that part out

sleek bear
hollow glacier
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just choosing the right diffusers and strips is what i could use help with

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and safely powering the strips

lapis cipher
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i actually feel sorry i made the comment to go to #cameras-archived as i am no authority here. I only said it because i felt people who would actually be interested of the talk are missing it because i think this channel is for the ones who are unable to even install that shit ๐Ÿ˜„

deft pewter
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The same argument can be made for all this DIY talk.

lapis cipher
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true, they never followed the hint so neither will we ๐Ÿ˜„

sleek bear
lapis cipher
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i should probably just shut up and go play games and become Me(tm) again ๐Ÿ˜„

deft pewter
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Let us know how many times you die.

lapis cipher
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you'll be first to know but i know it already, many

fading hedge
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Ok. Hereโ€™s off topic. Should my tomato plants be in full sun

deft pewter
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Tomatoes are vigorous growers that require maximum sun. They will need 6 to 8 hours of sun a day, so plant in the sunniest parts of your garden

lapis cipher
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that's HA-related since you are using it to monitor the variables of the growing metrics

fading hedge
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Nope. All in my head

sleek bear
fading hedge
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And after a couple beers I will lose track

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Maybe Iโ€™ll automate the drip irrigation

forest edge
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@sleek bearwhat did you use to make the light flicker with the sound? or was the sound from a relay?

sleek bear
forest edge
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yea the click. ideal click noise would be exactly like a ballast flicker sound but that is hard to replicate using anything other than a ballast lol

subtle pasture
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Finished printing both halves of a new custom split 60% mechanical keyboard shell

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Black PETG, so it's shiny AF ๐Ÿ‘€

lapis cipher
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๐Ÿค˜

deft pewter
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Good to see some more mechanical KB love in here.

subtle pasture
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Always :3

deft pewter
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I didn't go custom but I've been really happy with my Drop Alt so far.

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QMK is great fun too. I had no idea keyboards were so customisable.

lapis cipher
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just gonna grab my guns and go die..

static schooner
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My fingers don't know what to do with more than laptop travel anymore

deft pewter
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Weak.

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Your fingers, that is.

forest edge
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laptop ๐Ÿคข

deft pewter
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There's only about 5-6mm of travel if I bottom out these keys.

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I know chiclet keys are way less but 6mm ain't much.

static schooner
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the old macbook butterfly keyboard was too little, though. the current gen is about right for me

deft pewter
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Butterfly ๐Ÿคข

static schooner
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I just skipped that whole generation

deft pewter
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I have a 2018(?) MBP and hate the frigging keyboard. Can't use it at all.

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Fortunately, I always have a real keyboard.

static schooner
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waited until they swapped out the keyboard and returned the physical esape key

deft pewter
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If I have to start using the MBP on the go, I'll have to get work to replace it.,

lapis cipher
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i think i am abusing my mac, its mostly a stand for crisps and candy while its rather mint condition device, a bit old but at least it has connectors, maybe keyboard also, haven't opened for a while

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should probably sell it, haven't really used much at all, they are still paying some 500-600 eur for those

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nice, i was dead tired earlier today and now its 3am and i feel no hurry to bed..

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need to count animals also, i think i've lost one. Not bad considering i had 12 on the start

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mac is alright, its just my fault for not knowing all the fancy shortcuts and stuff, its beautiful machine

forest edge
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@tidal bronze are you at the vax concert?

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really don't understand the point of it to be honest

forest edge
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doh openweather finally took a dump lol

bitter pawn
hushed basalt
clear ferry
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sometimes even the big shot companies advertising looks like aliexpress advertising

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Samsungs The Terrace

forest edge
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worse part about that image is that there are people out there who watch tv around others and gab the whole time. I mean wtf.. aliens

daring jolt
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Besides who even puts their tv outside without a roof or anything

clear ferry
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It's meant to be outside

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but yes, who does that

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it is definitivly a thing for the 5%s

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$4000-$6000 pricetag

forest edge
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not even 5% alot of people actually put tv's outdoors. they just buy those covers for tvs

clear ferry
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I have seen one outdoor TV in my life, and it was at the house of the richest man in norway ๐Ÿคฃ

forest edge
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neighbor pulls out a projector to watch football games during the summer on his back deck. how he can stand to watch that shit being thrown on his siding is beyond me lol

forest edge
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finally moved away from the bar card. had that since the start. feels weird lol

hushed basalt
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I've seen thousands of outdoor tvs here

clear ferry
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But the specs only say up to 50c

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It would explode in Oz

forest edge
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the moment you realize norwegians never seen life without snow

clear ferry
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Actually we haven't

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wherever you live in the country we will have snow in winter

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from 2 weeks to 6 months a year

last cedar
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Snow is proof that global warming is a myth

forest edge
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I wonder how long you all would survive if the average temps stayed around 30c

green inlet
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30c......so still winter?

last cedar
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I would just transform into a bald raccoon

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And raw meat would almost be cooked at 30C

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almost

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I was meaning that with a giant /s by the way. I noticed in just the last 12 years how mild the winters have got here in Sweden

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We always recycle, try to use car as little as possible, green electric, feels like it isn't enough

clear ferry
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30? We have that in summer

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But I'm more worried about the sea temperatures at that point

clear ferry
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We are doing almost everything possible, but with 0.1% of the world population it doesn't matter much

deft pewter
hollow glacier
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yep

deft pewter
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Wasn't something recently published that shows that China are responsible for 70% of emissions?

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I know they're quite populous but not 70% of the world's population.

hollow glacier
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quick google found this

deft pewter
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Yeah, it's nuts how skewed it is.

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Basically the pareto principle on steroids.

hollow glacier
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dude i went down a rabbit hole on youtube a while back

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the shit companies get away with in other countries is so sad

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like clothing manufacturers that put all kinds of shit directly into rivers

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and other places that have to farm rice in fields littered with all kinds of crazy heavy metals

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it's really fucked up

deft pewter
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That's disgusting. Russia had that chemical leak/dump recently that polluted a massive river.

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China do the open mining of lithium.

hollow glacier
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didnt mean to link a political article

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but that city.. asbest russia is fucking insane

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doctors in the hospital will see asbestos related illnesses and legally cant say anything is wrong with them

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one doctor had a big piece of asbestos on his shelf and touched it bare hands saying it's fine

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fuckin crazy

deft pewter
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๐Ÿคฏ

hollow glacier
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and they sell it to india and other countries that cant afford to ban it

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and their government is too busy wanting to be cheap

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shit's whack

deft pewter
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Yeah, the way some countries punish people so harshly for speaking the truth is worrying ๐Ÿ˜ข

hollow glacier
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a la america?

deft pewter
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We have to find a way to lift everyone else up out of that.

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Haha. As much as some Americans would claim otherwise, they have free speech.

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Russia, China, North Korea. All authoritaran, and speaking out against the regime gets you in trouble.

sleek bear
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Smoke machine recap... It is now working as intended... And less smelly

last cedar
lofty orchid
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We are making good progress on the automated computer museum, this will be part of the desktop ui.

hollow glacier
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Thatโ€™s a neat project

lofty orchid
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We have scripts to turn on/talk about (tts) each computer. so the automated tour runs them in order with a wait for the media player to change from playing in between.

green inlet
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Are the waits configurable? For say, if someone has a question and you donโ€™t make it to the next station in time?

lofty orchid
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idk, we also have dash buttons for each computer to trigger the turn on/talk scripts. the goal is to have many options for giving tours.

green inlet
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Nice.

deft pewter
lofty orchid
green inlet
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Not ๐Ÿ’ฏ familiar with what you are doing. I just know defined waits can cause issues when the human factor is involved. Just a suggestion. If you have buttons, I wouldnโ€™t even use waits. What if someone skips a station.

lofty orchid
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skips are fine with the buttons, they each trigger a specific script

green inlet
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So, it sounds like you have already solved the problem I raised with buttons

lofty orchid
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your point about if people have questions during the automated tour is something im gonna work on

green inlet
lofty orchid
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that is true with the automated tour script, im gonna try to add pause

lapis cipher
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good stuff

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dunno how the space is, first thing that came to mind was a motion sensor in very front of the machine to trigger things also. But, i read its all work in a progress and in a very good progress so not really worried here ๐Ÿ™‚

bitter pawn
deft pewter
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That's a very generous tip. The average raccoon earns less than $5 a month.

clear ferry
last cedar
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@deft pewter you clearly have no idea about the black market for doormats

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Which I can't disuss here....

dull chasm
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we have a place for doormats that is safe

last cedar
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|| in my doormat stash ||

deft pewter
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And if you want to buy one, she'll keep it safe again soon after.

last cedar
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Absolutely

lofty orchid
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@green inlet success! the automated tour is now pauseable

brisk glen
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why

subtle pasture
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So you can run your browser on linux in a browser on Windows ๐Ÿค”

brisk glen
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Yes, letโ€™s docker in docker and run homeassistent supervised in that

glacial knot
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good thing that atx is still asleep with that kind of comment

midnight adder
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Yo

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where is everyone

clear ferry
hushed basalt
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Funny but sad

clear ferry
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Just like when frenck DMs me, I always suspect it is tinkerer who has hacked him

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And trying to honeypot me

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Today it will be decided if we will use the Janssen vaccine or not

clear ferry
forest edge
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wtf is the janssen vaccine? is that like the walmart version or something?

clear ferry
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The Johnson and Johnson one

forest edge
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ah, never heard of that refereed as janssen here

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not even sure they lifted the ban on that one here yet or not

clear ferry
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The official name for it is Janssen afaik

forest edge
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johnson and johnson is more well known here which is why it's likely just called that

clear ferry
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Feeble minds and all that

forest edge
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more like just makes no sense to refer to it as just janssen

clear ferry
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According to your own government it does

forest edge
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sure they do, they have to be technical but when it comes to news reports etc it's just called johnson and johnson lol

clear ferry
forest edge
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so norway hasn't gotten vaccines yet?

clear ferry
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we are sticking with moderna and pfizer so far

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astrazeneca got blocked

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and probably janssen will too

forest edge
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thought astrazeneca was still in like phase 1 or some shit

clear ferry
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it's been distributed widely for a long time

forest edge
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scary

clear ferry
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y'all see when international news don't get any airtime in the US

forest edge
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currently being polluted with india dropping the ball

hushed basalt
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We have astrazeneca

clear ferry
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Delivered from the motherland

hushed basalt
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The PM didn't get that brand for some reason though

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For himself personally

low harness
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Good thing your syntax highlighter caught it, or you could spend WEEKS debugging that.

forest edge
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maybe the next pandemic will fair slightly better with covax being put together

clear ferry
forest edge
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these japanese mini autonomous robot tournaments are starting to show up in my youtube feed. things are pretty neat!

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makes me thing of those robot fights in big hero 6

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cept these things are not fighting

clear ferry
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So apparently Janssen and Astra are exempt from our vaccination program now

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but people who want can voulounteer to get those vaccines if they accept risks and read pampflets

forest edge
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so that pretty much leaves the ronald mcdonald one right?

clear ferry
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Pfizer and Moderna yes

forest edge
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moderna is the most used one here so far. pfizer seems to be what the cheaper places use as well which is weird

clear ferry
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Pfizer is the most used one here by far, probably 80\20

forest edge
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two shots a year can kiss my ass

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wish the other didn't have the blood clot thing, altho it was a rather small number of people who got it

clear ferry
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Might be behaving differently based on genetic makeup too, since everyone I've heard in the US who got the Pfizer got bedridden for atleast a day, while here in Norway I haven't even heard of anyone being home from work after getting it

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So maybe bloodclot would be less likely in the US population

forest edge
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yea the after effects of the vaccines are all over the place from no reaction to feeling like you got the flu

clear ferry
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I still only know one person who has had it knowingly here

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he still has no sense of taste or smell 14 months later

forest edge
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yea but with your all's diet aren't you born like that?

clear ferry
glossy gazelle
glossy gazelle
forest edge
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they debunked that whole which is better thing

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they are all pretty equal

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moderna and pfizer had started months earlier so the testing pool is much bigger than what like the johnson and johnson had when they started telling people what the rates were

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as time goes by they are pretty sure all the numbers for those 3 atleast will equalize out

opaque girder
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the blood clot side effect was more prominent in older people not younger

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although it's still far far less likely compared to the likelyhood of getting a clot from smoking, birth control pills etc

low harness
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Or from covid, as I understand it?

tender lotus
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Depends on how much COVID is in the population

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Some areas you be more likely to die of a clot from the vaccine, than to die from COVID

clever mortar
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Moonbase Alpha doesn't count

low harness
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Short term, maybe. It's an infinitely complex question because humans are involved.

clever mortar
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Humans are pretty much a sure way of messing up any confidence level

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Except where a button is marked do not press, when the confidence that it'll be pushed is 100%

low harness
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Last words ever spoken: "What does this do?"

clever mortar
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And that's why Atlantis sunk

late gate
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I got the pfizer vaccine in norway already

low harness
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> ./run_export
sh: 1: ./export.sh: Permission denied
> chmod +x ./export.sh
> ./run_export
sh: 1: ./export.sh: not found
clever mortar
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Magic

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I love that error message, technically correct and utterly unhelpful

lapis cipher
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thank you internet, you seem to be having a great monday, too!

clever mortar
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You should try something better than 3G 2G mobile connections

lapis cipher
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i'm still yet to get my vaccine so kinda limited with the options..

clever mortar
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I'd try upgrading to some wet string and a couple of cans

lapis cipher
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i really appreciate you all putting the effort to help me with the connection with your ingenious suggestions

clever mortar
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I mean, it's that or try RFC2549, which replaced the problematic RFC1149

green inlet
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Or really, just say no to Internet

clever mortar
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Cry bandwidth and let slip the fibre seeking backhoes!

lapis cipher
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must confess i can't remember those out of my head, no point googling since my bits ain't reaching the docs

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ups, used all the bandwidth for say that, and this

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was really fun working today over that, called it quits few hours early, especially those two video conferences were great, "i can see you pixeled guys but can't understand what you are saying" and yet todays most important agenda was me not having camera..

clever mortar
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RFC1149 - POAC
RFC2549 - POAC with QoS

||PoAC == Packets Over Avian Carrier||

lapis cipher
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i suppose shooting pigeons isn't the right approach to start with this? Its just.. the only way for me to get them..

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uuh obs added official virtual camera support, i wonder if can abuse that to get me some video presence..

tame sand
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Even down at my obligatory doormat stash

lapis cipher
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i almost already got a time for the 5g but others were quicker it seems..

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doormats.. so even raccoons have better internet..

last cedar
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Or I will steal your doormats

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And pee on your stuff

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Hi btw

lapis cipher
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i am trying to suck bits from your country but looks very much like your raccoons are squeezing the cable..

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right on, spare connection is better, should make it primary

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not great, not terrible

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should check the bands and figure out what gives out the best performance, also to upgrade to better carrier aggregation device but every fsck'ing piece costs..

last cedar
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I have no use for data

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I have doormats

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Actually

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If I took doormat enterprises inc online I would make more

bitter pawn
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@last cedar im tempted to get this one...

last cedar
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Yes please do, I can then add that one to my portfolio

lapis cipher
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hmph, can't get streams work with obs ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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should be almost plug'n'play or at least used to be..

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vlc doesn't like the streams anymore either, what the heck

lapis cipher
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did everybody lose their inttternets or why so silent?

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sorry, i might have stolen your bits while struggling with mine but hey, it was for a good cause!

brisk glen
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Nooo everyone is out of stock of the Coral USB Accelerator

lapis cipher
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sorry, i had to have them all to boost my pi 3b+ WITH sd card to get frigate run nicely

brisk glen
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You just need one for frigate and thatโ€™s what I need it for

lapis cipher
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should have said that before i ordered them all... no wonder its not like 10000 fps

brisk glen
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22 weeks out when ordering

lapis cipher
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in theory it should but its not

brisk glen
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I may as well buy a M1 Mac mini and use the Apple neural engine

static schooner
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Cats are fast

lapis cipher
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not sure if i clicked all of them as well, need to check, ordered quite a few things

brisk glen
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Cats are indeed fast

deft pewter
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Have you tried running off multiple SD cards? That way, you can use RAID and have backups.

lapis cipher
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i btw applied for the crew position on country's fastest boat, lets see, meeting them tomorrow

brisk glen
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Raid on SD cards ๐Ÿคข

lapis cipher
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NO, you leave that shit for atx!

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anyways, summer seems to be arriving finally, +20 should be for the many days coming this week, a great weather to be out on the sea

brisk glen
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Guess itโ€™s going to be a Mac mini for HA

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Stupid chip shortage

lapis cipher
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i'm sorry

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nice url you got there

brisk glen
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Yahโ€ฆ

lapis cipher
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they rarely exceed the size of the caption.. ๐Ÿ™‚

brisk glen
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The markup on these things right now

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Time to join the Bitcoin miners with a sock monitor

lapis cipher
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just install the addon to haos, that's how i do my millions

bitter pawn
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wtf is a usb accelerator?

deft pewter
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It's a device that makes your USB really fast.

lapis cipher
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magic

deft pewter
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Apple don't want you to know about this one simple trick.

lapis cipher
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i should probably move from my gigabit to usb-accelerated network to get the speeds up again, ridiculous today..

deft pewter
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ML stuff.

bitter pawn
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might be time to buy direct

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ebay rippin ya off my dude

deft pewter
dusky plank
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ori is such a nice game! ๐Ÿ‘Œ

chilly nymph
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I inherited an imac. Now to determine if I want to even keep osx on it...

bitter pawn
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i mean different strokes for different folks

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no judgement here

deft pewter
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I'm judging. Apple ๐Ÿคข

bitter pawn
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ok ngl

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im silently judging

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its kinda ghey

late gate
forest edge
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i7 for HA is overkill imo. sure there might be some addons or other things you may want to install along side HA that could/would need a beefier cpu but in general I7 is just overkill

lapis cipher
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that's what coral is made for?

late gate
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Its more general video processing, ha etc. its that or nothing i was sbout to throw it as i dont use it. Was thinking the cuda cores would help

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Its overkill for plain ha yes but thinking proxmox

lapis cipher
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if you mention ha here we recommend you with raspi with sd-card ๐Ÿ™‚

late gate
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Lol no

lapis cipher
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but you already did ๐Ÿ˜„

late gate
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Im way over rpi

lapis cipher
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hiding it in proxmox ain't helping ๐Ÿ˜„

forest edge
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video processing is a broad term. depending on what you are doing the onboard gpu may not even be used or helpful for that matter.

late gate
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Frigate that use coral and second take that use cuda and avx2

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It would be a small lab i was thinking

forest edge
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there is plenty of talk about frigate in this server. i would suggest doing some searching. I dunno how many cameras you have but if you got a coral already you could plug that into a rpi and it would handle a good chunk of cameras just by itself

lapis cipher
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cameras/frigate -> #cameras-archived and as a bonus you've got the resident Frigate creator around as well

late gate
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Rpi will never run ha in my home

lapis cipher
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but it could ๐Ÿ™‚

late gate
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I have no issue with frigate

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Been running it since release

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Im.running nuc today

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And its fine

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But if i can upgrade why not

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A laptop is built in ups, can move it etc

lapis cipher
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sure, go ahead, computers get old despite they handle the workload now

chilly nymph
opaque girder
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Talking about Frigate I started on it last week. It's growing on me quite a lot

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No Coral yet but running 4 cameras on an Odroid N2+ not bad at all

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Obviously not hiiting anywhere 10ms of course

bitter pawn
#

overkill? whats that?

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i think the word you are looking for is "futureproofing"

forest edge
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everyone likes pi what can i say

tidal bronze
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You should work on getting electricity to your barn so you can run other things.

chilly nymph
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I mean...I may have accidentally added 32 gb of ram to my HA machine ๐Ÿ™„

forest edge
#

we're not restricted to windmills and solar panels and exercise bikes hooked to generators here so we've had power the whole time

chilly nymph
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If we are talking about overkill

tidal bronze
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@forest edge but do you have zero emission lawn care?

forest edge
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that is the dumbest thing I ever seen

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and yes, we have goats if you want to be technical

tidal bronze
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Lmao. Saw it over the weekend and thought you would find it VERY interesting

forest edge
#

I bet they charge more for that too and I bet you cali's eat that shit up lol

tidal bronze
#

I would go for it just for low noise.

bitter pawn
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i have an electric mower

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its not bad

forest edge
#

get better insulation for your house

bitter pawn
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i have a really small yard so it works out very well

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i want to let it overgrow with mint so all the insects stay away

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and when you mow it smells like christmas

forest edge
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then you find out that those mowers can't be recycled and end up creating more trash than normal gas ones lol

bitter pawn
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who says im a tree hugger? could care less about the environment

tidal bronze
#

But 3 or 4 guys running gas things is pretty loud.

bitter pawn
#

but its quieter than a regular mower

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and does a decent job

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but batteries wear out quick

forest edge
bitter pawn
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so you might have a point on its longevity

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batteries get stupid hot after being run for only 15-20 minutes

opaque girder
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That's what AC powered mowers are for

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Quiter than gas ones yet run as long as you want

tidal bronze
hushed basalt
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2 stroke garden tools are terrible at emissions

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Likely far worse than your car

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Actually I looked it up

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It's far far far far worse

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Tldr if you care about air don't use petrol tools

forest edge
hushed basalt
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Yeah how dare households that work 120 hours a week between them outsource undifferentiated heavy lifting

static schooner
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AcharEsc

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Or, ya know, Google

dusky plank
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open file, get into edit mode โ€œiโ€œ, add char, quit with escape and โ€œ:wqโ€œ

minor nexus
#

anybody here have experience decompiling android apks?

surreal pilot
#

Me with a brilliant idea: Let's replace the fan on the RPi PoE adapter.
Forgets that AdGuard is running on it and I take my internet down...

forest edge
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pi's are cheap. get another to dedicate to adguard and you won't have those issues

surreal pilot
forest edge
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don't have a pi2 or 3 laying about? 8gb pi4 for adguard seems a little.. wasteful lol

surreal pilot
#

agreed. all my Pis are 4s. Just started getting into them last year. Have 4 of them at the moment. 2 not in use. Agreed that it is overkill but I will think of some other stuff to put on it. Maybe a transmission server sharing Linux images or something.

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one Pi for Home Assistant, second has NextCloud and Plex (don't want to put too much more on that one but that is the one that has all the storage space for the network)

deft pewter
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I only realised there were upper case I and A commands quite recently ๐Ÿ˜ข

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Reckon I use o more often though to insert extra lines of code after the current line.

clear ferry
dusky plank
hushed basalt
clear ferry
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when listening to american pronounce technical stuff I'm always amazed how it differs from my own

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etcd -> ETSYDEE

late gate
#

Any linux gurus here? I am as i said yesterday going to use a poweful laptop for a ยซhomelabยป with ha and others, and wanted this scenario: create a virutal eth, if cable plugged in, use eth, if eth unplugged use wifi without the consumer (docker, ha, proxmox etc) knowing if its wifi or eth. Is that possible?

clear ferry
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while I go

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etcd -> E T C D

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why on earth would you ever let your homelab switch from wired to wireless

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Just don't @late gate

late gate
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In general it should not be something i ever use, but if for example i have a zigbee or so thing that i cannot move it would be easier to just bring the laptop closer

clear ferry
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you don't want to move your coordinator to your end device

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so that makes no sense

late gate
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Sometimes its no choise

clear ferry
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sure it is

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buy more mains powered devices

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ifenslave can probably do what you want but it is a horrible idea

late gate
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When i paired hue last time they refused to pair unless the coordibator was close. I managed to reach 4 lights in the garden, but the 5th i could not reach even if the 4 others was 3m apart.

clear ferry
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what coordinator ?

late gate
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Slaesh

clear ferry
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strange

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I haven't had a single pairing issue, and I have never moved my coordinator

late gate
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Im planning to start migrating to z2m again you see

clear ferry
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there is your problem you see

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running a subpar zigbee implementation

late gate
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I thought you was z2m fan

clear ferry
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I am

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but you are in your wording not running z2m at the moment

late gate
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Im running zha

clear ferry
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exactly

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๐Ÿคข

late gate
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But not looking forward to re pair all

clear ferry
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easy peasy

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I spent about 45 minutes for 60+ devices

late gate
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Did you migrate or just started fresh?

clear ferry
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that was a move from hue \ tradfri \ xiaomi -> z2m

late gate
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Ah

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Its a theoretical migrate route from zha to z2m but it didnt work fir me as my zha pan is 5 digits. Z2m via ha wanted max 4

clear ferry
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just moving around the house is easy

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pressing stuff, done

late gate
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My plan was to copy nvram from sleash, put it on the zzh! Then start fresh with slaesh on z2m and start slowly. That way i should be able to have no downtime

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I prefer slaesh over zzh!

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I ordered a eth version of the round version but mostly for play

forest edge
clear ferry
worldly axle
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hi

forest edge
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wish the generic thermostat intergration had a secondary option that just turnmed the device on and ignored the temp/target

late gate
#

Power wrongly priced heatit remotes yesterday @clear ferry

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300 each

clear ferry
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noice

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I have no floor heating anywhere though

forest edge
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why not line the floor with electric blankets?

late gate
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No like button with 4 or 8 scene controllers

forest edge
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thought you didn't care how much power you used..

clear ferry
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you jest @forest edge

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but a lot of houses from the late 80s have electric floors in every room

forest edge
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gross, would hate to see the tech those are using lol

late gate
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I have electric floor in the hobby room, but cant use it. You have to raise everuthing or you breake it. House from start of 90s

worldly axle
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is there a windows app?

late gate
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For?

worldly axle
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Home Assistant

low harness
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not yet

late gate
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No

worldly axle
low harness
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There's rumors...

clear ferry
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I hope not

late gate
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I hope the ios app will have access to the apple tracker thingy

low harness
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Some people use something called IOT Link for sensor data from a windows computer, if that's what you're after.

worldly axle
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just a simple app

clear ferry
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your windows system probably has something called a browser

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it works similar to an app

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just use a bookmark

worldly axle
low harness
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Yeah, besides the sensors, the apps are just browser wrappers.

late gate
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Good with sensor data though

worldly axle
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I have a shortcut

clear ferry
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congrats, you have an app

late gate
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Isnt it better to use nabu casa link and choose the app option?

clear ferry
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nabu casa no

worldly axle
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I cant pay for that

late gate
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Oh then i guess as long as its ssl / https you can do it

low harness
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An IP is perfectly cromulant if you're on a desktop.

clear ferry
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CROMULANS

forest edge
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just use rainmeter with windows, can create a crafty looking perma opened iframe that will show any website you want

worldly axle
low harness
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A word made up by the Simpsons.

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I'm saying there's absolutely nothing wrong in connecting to your HA instance by an IP. Not everyone needs a domain.

clear ferry
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but having internal dns is never a bad thing

low harness
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Everyone needs to start somewhere.

forest edge
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damnit someone made a duel thermostat integratiion that would work but dumped it

umbral zenith
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What's everyone running for CCTV? looking at swapping

clever mortar
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I run cameras ๐Ÿ˜›

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Seriously, it's a vague question... are you asking about camera hardware, the NVR, how it integrates with HA (or not), or ...

umbral zenith
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Yea general question must of missed the cameras channel

clear ferry
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frigate + coral + random intel host

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win

forest edge
hushed basalt
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Seamless

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You can barely see it

clear ferry
hushed basalt
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What are you talking about

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It's the most elegant solution I've ever seen

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Certainly not hacky

low harness
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I got one of those cheap HDMI to USB capture devices that's built on. I'm impressed, really.

hushed basalt
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I should get one of those

forest edge
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there is pi-kvm which is cheaper. diy but that voyager is an all in one. still think it's price tag is alittle retarded but we

hushed basalt
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I have a crap of old VHS home videos my mum wants me to digitize

low harness
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Great for little troubleshooting tasks where you can just barely fit your laptop.

hushed basalt
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I have a VHS player with hdmi

low harness
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Oh it's NOT for digitizing stuff.

hushed basalt
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Is it potato quality

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Vhs is pretty potato

low harness
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It's like $10. What did you expect?

forest edge
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how the hell did you get a vhs player with an hdmi?

hushed basalt
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Perfection

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Combo DVD / VHS player

forest edge
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ah

hushed basalt
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Quite common back in the day

forest edge
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for the combo, not the just vhs

low harness
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There were some HDMI VHS players made in that weird short period...

forest edge
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atleast not around here

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most common around here was component not hdmi during those days

low harness
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I've heard they're actually the best way to digitize tapes. Potential for way better quality than converting it to DVD first.

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SCART ftw!

forest edge
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I just bought a cheap usb capture dongle and hooked it up to a cheap vhs player

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knew i was only going to use it once so was not about to invest. 20 bucks ws my limit lol

sand badge
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@low harness I saw that you started working on 2.0 for the hass-fontawesome component and the change on how to load the pro icons. With fontawesome 6, they're adding thin icons as well to the pro set. How are you planning on distinguishing between the thin and light pro icons later on if we have to use the fapro prefix for 2.0?

low harness
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Filenames

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It will be up to the user to add the icons they want and name them however they want.

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You could e.g. have unicorn-duotone.svg and unicorn-thin.svg and use them with fapro:unicorn-duotone and fapro:unicorn-thin.

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And since the cat is out of the bag, I guess...

sand badge
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Ah, good to know.. Was just curious ๐Ÿ˜„

forest edge
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pay for icons? gross

clear ferry
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paicons

hollow glacier
#

@forest edge hey we spoke before about the silica gel diffusers. can I friend add you and PM to discuss a bit more?

clear ferry
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menage a trois

hollow glacier
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you wish atx

forest edge
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@hollow glacierI don't have any of those and atx there is a resident led strip dude. I think i only said something about how bad they look when they have low led counts lol

hollow glacier
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yeah you did

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funny enough- the guy actually wants the led circles to show up through diffusers

clear ferry
forest edge
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why

hollow glacier
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it's for a snow cone truck and he already has one like that...

clear ferry
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I printed my own diffuser for the wifes teams cube

hollow glacier
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and the fleet all look the same

forest edge
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why would he want them diffused just to to be shown through lol

hollow glacier
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i dont think he has much choice in the matter

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well atx can i do the same with you

clear ferry
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even printing it very thin with a cloudy filament I can't see the individual leds

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using a regular clear filament that would probably be easy

hollow glacier
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yeah i've done that with my 3d printer for lights on it but i dont print in asa or abs to be able to print stuff for outdoor use in texas..

clear ferry
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y'all

forest edge
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if the led count is low enough you can see them regardless cause the other emitters are not close enough to "blend" in the light

hollow glacier
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that should highly depend on type of diffuser material and other factors

forest edge
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course atx primarly uses pastel colors which is kind of pre-diffused colors to start with lol

hushed basalt
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About to start an enterprise project on gitlab, in particular ci/cd

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Any landmines i should be aware of?

low harness
late gate
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homelab server with proxmox or vmware?

last cedar
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Run vmware under a hyperV that is running on a vm on proxmox

late gate
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im referring to ESXi

last cedar
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Mmm

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I run esx free as my hypervisor, but it is homeprod

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Not homelab

clever mortar
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VMWare > Proxmox

deft pewter
last cedar
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No, wrong quote, ffs

late gate
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does the free version of esxi support gpu passthrough?

deft pewter
#

Google says no.

late gate
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some say yes on google so a bit confusing

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they say just add "hypervisor.cpuid.v0 = "FALSE" and nvidia will passthrough

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I will just try

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isnt it if you join wmug you get license for cheap?

last cedar
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It does do passthrough

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My HBA is passed through

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Tried a GPU about 5 years ago and it was a pain, I gave up

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Was a GT710

winter wren
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peace be with you all

dusky plank
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yep, esxi free does gpu pass through as does every other hypervisor except hyperv?
you canโ€˜t pass through a mouse or keyboard except you have a whole second usb controller

glacial knot
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really? Does it not have usb-passthrough capabilities?

late gate
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I will try with proxmox first as I can run portainer directly on the host and not mess with passthrough for things that need cuda etc

dusky plank
dusky plank
brisk glen
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lol wow, and considering iPhones needs to be on 14.5 for the tracking, thats impressive

low harness
#

๐Ÿคท forced upgrades makes people upgrade

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And the iphone has always had very very fast adoption of new oses.

dusky plank
#

it's not forced though

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you can disable automatic updates and skip as long as you wish

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it's mainly people "needing" the new emoji sets...
you know, kind of like that nitro fix

hot roost
#

i really wish there was something like Brilliant in the UK

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Tablets etc are fine if you have power but not easy to flush fit etc. Light switches is the logical place with some form of screen as well as physical control

surreal pilot
brisk glen
#

you want to know something cool?

static schooner
#

I'll be the judge of what's cool

brisk glen
#

Keepalived

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and a load balancer

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1 virtual ip and have all of the piholes you want

deft pewter
#

You really love your clusters ๐Ÿ˜„

hearty depot
#

Loadbalancer.. Good idea to throw one in front of gunicorn?

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will have to find this out tomorow ๐Ÿคฃ

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"news" out of my bubble - unfriendly livestream ๐Ÿคฃ
Edward Snowden got invited to do a talk for a guy who started some ponzy sceme and brings the topic up. uff critical hit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv3UC4lz3oQ&t=467s

Intervention of Edward Snowden at Private Investment Club Zoom Meeting on April 24th 2021.

After talking for just a few minutes, Edward Snowden exposes his host being involved in a $4.4M Ponzi scheme.

Sorry about the sound quality and volume, these have been issues during the entire meeting, not just Snowden's intervention.

Enjoy! :-)

A...

โ–ถ Play video
low harness
#

"How to order pizza from vscode".
Starts by saying he can't even eat pizza because he's lactose intollerant.
There's no lactose in cheese (except semi-cheeses like mozarella). Literally unwatchable.

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Normally, I'd assume the allergic/intolerant person knows their needs best... but from the rest of this guys videos I say it's more likely he just never bothered to look that up either...

balmy swan
#

Not sure of the best place to ask this question: I have HAASKA working and controlling devices with Alexa. I want to utilize this same integration, to have automation trigger notifications and have Alexa say whatever the notification is that I want it to let me know about.

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I've added some "Intents" to the configuration .yaml. And it seems to like however it is written, so now how would I call that intent to test it with Alexa?

static schooner
balmy swan
#

Thanks. Rob I'll try there.

hushed basalt
#

Gitlab is quite nice

forest edge
#

netherlands using bee's to test for covid. rip

hushed basalt
#

@last cedar

dusky plank
clear ferry
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I installed bind on my lab network because I was tired of doing the DNS on the domain controller

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and wow I really missed bind

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I haven't used it in probably 15 years, but it is so damn handy

clever mortar
#

I've run bind for my home DNS since forever. It "just works"

forest edge
last cedar
#

Well I guess you all know how I look

umbral zenith
#

Hey trash panda, turn on the fire

hushed basalt
umbral zenith
#

so did anyone else have fun with outlook app today

forest edge
clear ferry
#

wonder if I should build a DIY lightboard

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Handy for presentations

hushed basalt
#

Business internet prices are not comparable to residential though

forest edge
#

atleast you obviously don't have a monopoly issue lol

clear ferry
#

don't bring murica into this!

clear ferry
#

interesting

umbral zenith
#

you would just need a constant current and heat sink for it

umbral zenith
clear ferry
#

laughs in FTTH since 2004

clever mortar
#

We only got FTTH 6 months ago, and there's a lot of the UK that doesn't yet, and may never

umbral zenith
#

for $400 NBN will give you a yes or no answer if you can have ftth here

forest edge
#

always throws me off when you guys talk about fiber cause I keep forgetting your fiber is not the same as ours lol

deft pewter
#

It keeps you regular.

tame sand
forest edge
#

we don't refer to to our connection in the same terms.

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we have had fiber since like the 70's or so

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but that connection point has always remained relatively the same

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we don't use FTTx when we talk about it. the term fiber for us is anything 1gup/dn+ and cable/broadband for anything lower than that

deft pewter
#

So you use fiber as a marketing term instead of to talk about the material used?

forest edge
#

pretty much

deft pewter
#

Fiber's been around here for ages, just not as far as the home.

forest edge
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I guess we all been on FTTC since like forever, but a few optional choices would bring it to FTTN but again it's murky because for residential coax can bring the same speeds so it would be FTTC to coax but with gig+ speeds.

deft pewter
#

I'm finally on FTTH after a long wait. It's funny... BT can't be bothered upgrading the area but Virgin Media came round and did fiber (they used to do coax only).

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I don't need the best tier, so I get a pretty cheap deal for 350Mbps. Could probably go past 1gig if I paid more.

forest edge
#

that is pretty much our cable speeds lol

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unless you pay for more

#

our biggest issue was monopoly but then after google fiber came around and shaked the tree that's when additional shit start cropping up

deft pewter
#

Yeah, your monopolies on telecoms are nuts.

#

Not everywhere here has a great choice but it's still choice.

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Got a couple of cities that have their own networks but it's rare. Hull is the only big place that comes to mind.

forest edge
#

thankfully over the past 15 or so years thier grip isn't as firm as it once was. I remember a time back when at&t owned everything, you couldn't have a phone or anything without going through them and they use to "rent" the actual phones out

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one good thing that came out of this pandemic was the governments involvement to push broadband out to rural areas. those poor people been on dsl this whole time lol

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my farm would be dsl lol

deft pewter
#

Yeah, we're trying to improve rural areas too. It's expensive to add the infrastructure but the telecoms providers get government grants to help.

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We want to move out of the city if I can keep working remotely, so I hope some of the villages have fiber by the time we move ๐Ÿ˜‚

forest edge
#

our providers have no excuse. it was pure greed

clever mortar
forest edge
#

we have fiber main lines buried all over the US since it's invention and the ONLY reason they never carried them out on the poles was because the fuckers wanted to keep that money and price gouge a shit service like adsl

clever mortar
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I've a colleague who lives in the city centre and can't get anything above basic ADSL

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FTTP runs past their building, but as a block of flats it wasn't on the list... so it and their neighbours got skipped

deft pewter
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Our BT line tops out at 34Mbps still ๐Ÿ˜ข

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Virgin are slightly more expensive but at least they're here.

forest edge
#

we have some rural places like that and one place made the news cause a homeowner managed to talk the provider in dropping a single line for him which he rents out (to help pay for his outrageous bill) that access to all the other people. using point to point dishes lol

clever mortar
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Yeah, on my "80Mb/s" service I usually topped out around 40...

forest edge
#

34, gross

clever mortar
#

So glad to upgrade to FTTP and get what I'm paying for

forest edge
#

google fiber and at&t fiber and veriozon fios are that FTTP. everything else for us stops at the pole

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I wanted google fiiber so bad when they came out mainly just to tell time warner to fuck off but I did not want to have them running a fiber line in through my house lol

dusky plank
#

my friends usually go nuts when they see <5ms ping while playing online on playstation

#

they are all dependant on the state's telecoms which also uses fiber as marketing term for their shitty phone lines
thank god I have a residential provider which gives me ftth

green inlet
#

I like spectrum. I have 5 people in my house and our internet hasnโ€™t even balked during the pandemic with 4 of them doing tons of online stuff. I think I have 200/25 or maybe 300/25

forest edge
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yea spectrum aka time warner got better ONLY because of google fiber lol

green inlet
#

I have had them for prob 15-20 years. No issues except maybe customer service about 15 years ago.

forest edge
#

you are one of the lucky ones

green inlet
#

Now, if you need a service call....you can see where their truck is on a web based app

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I usually just go to their store and pickup new equipment though

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Of course, me neighbors arenโ€™t cows and goats ๐Ÿคฃ

forest edge
#

well if you have to go get new equipment then you have had issues lol

green inlet
#

No, just upgrades every couple years

forest edge
#

wtf there are no upgrades lmao

green inlet
#

New modems...yes

forest edge
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they literally recycle the same shit

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ok yea i guess they did change the modems but that was like 6+ years ago

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had to support docsis 3.1 or whatever

green inlet
#

For all the non east coast US of A people.....you missed some really cra cra with the gas pipeline ransomware issue.

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I am surprised they werenโ€™t giving out free toilet paper for every fill up.

forest edge
#

not heard of that

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did see something about people stealing those backflow valves for water off people's homes lol

clever mortar
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It's been all over the news even here ๐Ÿ˜„

green inlet
#

For fuck sake. Gas lines for blocks for stations that still had gas

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And me on empty

forest edge
#

oh the woman had said something about that. i wasn't paying much attention lol

#

I thought you meant natural gas

green inlet
#

I saw a picture of a guy with a trailer and one of those like 100 gallon water things pulled up to a pump just taking all he could

forest edge
#

lmao

#

that shouldn't have been legal even during non gas shortage

green inlet
#

Freakโ€™n idiots. Selfish.

#

If everyone went about their normal day and filled up as normal, things more than likely would be just fine

forest edge
#

thankfully if that were to ever happen here I would just hook @clear ferry to a buggy and whipped him for speed

hollow glacier
#

Why not just get him addicted to uppers?

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Less work on your end

forest edge
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when he gets stubborn i just dangle a piece of raw meat in front of his face

hollow glacier
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Thereโ€™s a dirty joke there somewhere

forest edge
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people are shit

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still like that one dude who bought like 1000's of toilet paper during the shortage in hopes of trying to sell it and then tried to return it back to the store and they told him to fuck off lol

hollow glacier
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Yea lol

forest edge
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2021.5.2 part duex

green inlet
late gate
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what is the benefit of volume image vs directory storage on docker?

clever mortar
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Knowing where things are

late gate
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I never used volume images, but was thinking to try it on the new setup. Just didnt know if it was any benefit

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I usually had /docker/regulardirforcontainer

static schooner
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If youโ€™re not on Linux, the difference between dog slow (bind mounts) and fast (volumes). Whether it matters for your use case is up to you

forest edge
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@green inletah i see it's just the lower eastern states impacted currently. Florida has been having so much news come out of it lately even big news like the shortage gets missed lmao

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like that dude who not only stole one cop car but managed to take off in another cop car after they ran him off the road in the first lmao

last cedar
#

Skills!

late gate
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so volumes is the way to go thats set. when asking; anyone know how to get docker-copose 3+ on portainer stacks? I read something about need to use swarm or something

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found it; just running docker swarm init enables v3+

dusky plank
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portainer is only good for webui cli access, and not even that works properly on windows with shortcuts

late gate
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im using it on linux so no worries for me there

dusky plank
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stay away from it until you know how the cli works

late gate
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cool made a swarm between my homelab docker and synology. dunno what I can do, but I guess something useful

last cedar
#

What do you call a blind dinosaur?

|| a doyouthinkhesawus ||

What do you call a blind dinosaurs dog?

|| a doyouthinkhesawusrex ||

:raccoon:

young sigil
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How could it see us if it's blind? Even dad jokes should be logically consistent.

last cedar
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Yes

forest edge
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so glad to hear that movie has finally made it to your country

inner vault
#

those dino jokes work better with a British accent

deft pewter
#

They're just as awful with a British accent.

#

Noice. An achievement that'll mean nothing to the rest of you... but I finally got my 5k times back under 30 mInutes ๐Ÿ˜‚

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Down from... 40ish a couple of months ago? ๐Ÿคฃ

noble pivot
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Hey all, what do you guys use to monitor your stuff at home? Any recomendations? Been meaning to get round to it but a bunch of stuff failed today an I only noticed when I could not get to HA (proxy was down). Looking for something to monitor basic stuff like if urls are available, are containers running, results from sql queries, output from scripts etc.

deft pewter
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monit here

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Runs on the host, so the only thing that'll stop it sending to me is if the host/internet go down completely... in which case, there's not too much I can do without setting up external redundancy.

#

I probably should, I'm just too lazy.

noble pivot
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Thanks. I was thinking of something external to any server without the need for installs on each machine (cos i'm lazy). So no "agent" on each box. Was going to try out zabbix. Thought I would see what others use.

deft pewter
#

Something external won't help you figure out if containers are running or SQL queries work ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

#

I'm sure you could do monit on just one box, since you can give it custom commands to reach things on your network.

clever mortar
#

Zabbix works well, but anything requires some form of agent for effective monitoring

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"agentless" usually means that it SSHs on and runs commands ๐Ÿ˜„

deft pewter
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Sounds safe.

clever mortar
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Eh, if it's a problem you've got bigger problems ๐Ÿ˜›

#

Also, that's pretty much how Ansible works

noble pivot
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Was wondering whats wrong with ssh

deft pewter
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But you run Ansible knowing that it can provision anything. I wouldn't want a monitoring tool to have the same capabilities.

clever mortar
#

It's more fragile since things may not work the way the monitoring tool expects

glacial knot
# deft pewter Sounds safe.

it's best when they then call sudo -S on the target system, because they got no idea how to properly escalate permissions

clever mortar
#

Agents are more likely to behave in expected ways

glacial knot
#

which reminds me, I need to tell my PM that I'm throwing out that software, if they haven't fixed that yet....

clear ferry
#

Don't mind me, I fat fingered a random gif

deft pewter
clever mortar
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I do it all the time, but I blame history and the su command...

deft pewter
#

I just don't know any better ๐Ÿ˜„

clever mortar
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I technically know better, but I'm lazy

glacial knot
#

if you don't put that in scripts that are going into production, have fun

#

but don't sell a solution that uses it internally

deft pewter
#

People use that in scripts? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

clever mortar
#

Well, yes, of course

#

Because... that's easier than sane options

noble pivot
#

Ha, peeps will use whatever works (no matter how bad it might be)

deft pewter
#

What's the 'sane' option? Assign the script the right user/group?

clever mortar
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Still, at least it's better than writing a script and making it setuid and group writable

glacial knot
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have a service, or work with polkit pkexec or similar

#

is script setuid a thing now? last I knew shebang resolution doesn't work with setuid

clever mortar
#

SUID scripts have been around for as long as I've been using *nix

#

So.... "a long long long long time"

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I "may" have used that kind of oversight to escalate accesses in the past... like when running a printer driver installer ||HP||

static schooner
#

it's like the Fisher Price version of hacking

glacial knot
#

ah right. solaris does it. Maybe atx's loved hpux does. But it's not portable to do that

#

Does the kernel clear (or the shell solaris uses?) stuff like PATH on suid?

static schooner
#

get in, make SUID script that's writeable, get out, modify, profit

#

Young Rob got in trouble for such things in college

midnight adder
#

daily reminder to unlock global emotes

#

ajit pai and the rest of these are a disgrace

velvet horizonBOT
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clever mortar
#

No politics

midnight adder
#

it's about emotes

#

does that count as political discussion in your eyes?

clever mortar
#

ajit pai and the rest of these are a disgrace
Yes

midnight adder
#

get a life ,man

clever mortar
#

~rule4 @stoic canopy

velvet horizonBOT
#

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static schooner
#

"Thor's Hammer was invoked by: Tinkerer"

clever mortar
#

Sadly they left before I could

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Though, I'd prefer to invoke Grabthar's Hammer

deft pewter
#

Every time they join, they're odd...

deft pewter
#

Unfortunately ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

last cedar
#

Meep meep

clear ferry
#

Yes, now we are stuck with you

last cedar
#

As long as there are doormats, I will still be around

clear ferry
#

You know your wife might be pregnant when you get sent to buy random food all of a sudden

last cedar
#

Depends how random

deft pewter
#

My condolences.

last cedar
#

If it is like deep freezed turnips or fresh artichoke hearts or something

#

Only cravings for weird stuff

clear ferry
#

Halloumi burgers out of nowhere, in late evenings

last cedar
#

Congrats though? I guess!

clear ferry
last cedar
#

Oh

#

I would ask you to get me some

clear ferry
#

My crotch goblin army is growing, I might have enough for a band soon

last cedar
#

Give your wife a high 5

bitter pawn
#

so many trash pandas up in here

#

#squadgoals

deft pewter
#

I only see one

bitter pawn
#

but in chat its just you and @last cedar

deft pewter
#

But:

velvet horizonBOT
#

There can be only one.

deft pewter
#

The rest are imposters.

bitter pawn
#

naw you two now have to fight to the death

#

like highlander

velvet horizonBOT
#
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deft pewter
clever sail
#

Gotcha sorry about that

deft pewter
#

Just learned a new trick for video calls:

static schooner
#

smelling the wine is part of the experience, so you're not only putting on a good show, but also properly enjoying your beverage

#

it's a win-win

green inlet
brisk glen
#

Even the cheap China market wants $$$

#

$60 normally

forest edge
#

yea prob gonna be another year before things start to return to whatever normal was

brisk glen
#

Frigate is on hold for a year then ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

#

I really like how it auto crops

#

I could possibly get it for $100 but then I would have to pay us tariffs

forest edge
#

lol the little mini pci one is in stock

#

i think atx went through the process of finding an adapter card for pcix1

brisk glen
#

Yahโ€ฆ that would be a pain

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But if I knew what he ended up with

wild grove
#

the community thread mentions people using them, there's an issue on the edge tpu github about the topic of adapters too, and there's a discussion on the frigate github about it. It sounds reasonably straight forward if you dont want to wait

late gate
#

Im waiting for 3 more coral from mouser

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Should be here in a couple of weeks

static schooner
#

you'll have a whole reef

forest edge
#

3 more? as in you have 4? why the f would you have so many lmao

static schooner
#

I hear crypto is hot

forest edge
#

lol that would be so dumb

brisk glen
#

3 more?

#

Wtf are you running?

green inlet
#

He is planning on selling them to you for a good price ๐Ÿคฃ

brisk glen
#

๐Ÿ˜‚ I only need 1

#

I guess I could get a Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 and add it to the swarm

#

Naa i really want the stick so it will follow to the next host

green inlet
#

Kismet == 36,798 devices ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคช๐Ÿคฆ

clear ferry
#

@green inlet lord of the gifs

clear ferry
forest edge
#

buy the time you got the card and paid for an adapter card you would be right at the 60 buck mark lol

clear ferry
#

Nah, the adapter card was $7 and shipping time for both were less than 14 days

forest edge
#

yea but you bought aliexpress stuff which means your stuff in tainted

last cedar
#

Poor seal

clear ferry
clever mortar
feral eagle
#

Forgive me ๐Ÿ™‚

hushed basalt
forest edge
#

remember. don't invest in 2.5gb junk. wait for the 5gb junk to come out next

glacial knot
#

10GB it is

clear ferry
#

10Gbit? What is this? 2005?

glacial knot
#

it's called "using my own money"

clear ferry
#

Oh, you are flaunting your $40 I see

hushed basalt
#

10gb probably costs $80/year in power

clear ferry
#

In third world countries yes

glacial knot
clear ferry
#

Actually you can get 40Gbit cards for $35 now

#

I see

#

It is over a decade old anyway

glacial knot
#

my main issue would be switches that take modules

clear ferry
#

Well they aren't expensive either, looks to be $100-150