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dusky plank
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anyway, the docs I linked you explain it very well

jade tartan
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thx bud, this is where i give up for now, but i do thankyou for your efforts, if i was proficient in understanding and using the yaml i'd be so much father ahead, probably in life as a whole

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also ive done the whole slap in some stuff to yaml, 2 different ones

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no idea what do to after as i dont see it creating an entity to call on to make a gauge or w/e

forest edge
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lots of vids on youtube that will help with that

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I always google the living hell out of crap before asking a vet

jade tartan
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yeah it was just a buddy got his pi4 running and said it was idling at 63c, so i wanted to see what mine was at without having to rewrite the book

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it's not something i care about enough to like go out of my way to figure out writing a custom sensor or something like that

dusky plank
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it's literally just 4 lines

jade tartan
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i mean ive copy pasted 2 different things into the config yaml

forest edge
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you know you gotta reload/restart HA after adding stuff right?

jade tartan
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i just did the reload from within HA

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i didnt reload the whole OS

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or system

forest edge
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you don't ever need to restart the pi

dusky plank
forest edge
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mstone is pointing the way

sharp cypress
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Hi everyone, was wondering if anyone here knows of any alternative to philips hue light strips that would also sync with what you are watching on the TV?

dusky plank
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it's called Hue Gradient

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or Hyperion if you want diy solutions

forest edge
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the wyze doorbell actually looks like it's junk lol

forest edge
clear ferry
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Isn't all wyze stuff junk?

forest edge
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no

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the cameras are actually quite good

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and the scale

hushed basalt
cedar chasm
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Pancake-clothed Barbie? I am experiencing a complex stream of emotions.

clear ferry
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I'd tap it

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In my mouth

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Fun fact, Norwegians eat pancakes like that with either sugar or blueberries on top, rolled into a blunt form

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With pea soup and sausages on the side

forest edge
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crepes not pancakes

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insult to pancakes calling those that

clear ferry
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Ain't my fault your nation needed to appropriate the name for something with more calories ACOSP_guessillshrug

forest edge
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it is your fault your region hasn't evolved enough to distinguish the difference in food names

tawny orchid
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Morning

cedar chasm
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Hi

subtle pasture
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Mmm, crepes

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Need to make those soon. I've finally nailed cooking Eggs Benedict, so it's onto the next fiddly breakfast food 😛

clear ferry
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Whatever you do, don't start with Danish Smørbrød

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Oh lawd

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The Danes are Cray Cray

subtle pasture
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Heh, that's neat actually

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I saw herring in a cream sauce and was worried it was based on Surströmming, but normal pickled herring appears to be what's used here

clear ferry
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There are only a select few swedes, the Swedish illuminati that actually eat surstrømming

subtle pasture
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Woo, the Bond devs are nice and responsive 😄

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I really wish I had a WiFi spectrum analyzer to take a look at how noisy certain devices are...

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Too bad they're all $500+

forest edge
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isn't there an app for that

subtle pasture
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There are, but they also generally require dedicated hardware

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$799 for the Wi-Spy mobile analyzer...

low harness
dusky plank
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march... we had 24 C a few days ago

low harness
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Yep. That's "April weather" for you.

clever mortar
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Can you ship some up here please

clear ferry
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noice, my ceiling VESA mount arrives tomorrow

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now, if just my Zbook could be sent

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gotta send an angry email to some feckers

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woo, tax returns have arrived, the normal is from today to a month in the future

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apparently I'm in the front of the queue for once

noble pivot
lapis cipher
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love the view

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got some more snow up here as well. Has been a great winter for a change but could proceed to spring already

wraith zodiac
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Hey, does anyone here recommend a good PoE PIR sensor?

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I have the possibility to hardwire some sensors and I can't seem to find any good ones that are not WiFi or ZigBee connected

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PoE would be the best fit for me as it would provide both power and connectivity at the same time

lapis cipher
wraith zodiac
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You're right

clear ferry
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I should go to Innsbruck some day

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I've one been to Lugano , but that is the wrong country

lapis cipher
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My wife always wants to Lapland while i want to go to the Alps.. Those miniatyre slopes vs looooong ones..

clear ferry
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I just want to go for the food

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😄

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I'm a fat bastard

lapis cipher
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weight isn't an issue on a DOWNslope 😄 You'll be fine with any possible obstacles on your path 😄

clear ferry
lapis cipher
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i say we pop in to mstone's hoods, judge how wrong everything is done and then enjoy the complimentary ride from a restaurant to another

glacial knot
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do we just judge the HA setup, or everything?

lapis cipher
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If the setup turns not to be bad enough we can jugde anything, "shitty weather you have here.." and so forth

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i am most certain our professional opinions on anything are well received and appreciated, no invitation needed (thought address would be useful)

clear ferry
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mmmm compiling new 3d printer firmware

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just for @lapis cipher

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😄

lapis cipher
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Can you manage or should i start looking into flights? At least we'd save on postal..

clear ferry
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YES

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I AM THE TINKERER

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DO NOT QUESTION MY RESOLVE

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😄

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it has been a long time coming for me to calibrate my printer anyway

hushed basalt
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Printers are the worst

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I pretty much only print shipping labels for parcels now

lapis cipher
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I am very eagerly waiting for my printouts done with the uncalibrated printer.. No wonder the prices were cheap 🤣

hushed basalt
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I should just buy a 3d printer

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And print shippint labels with it

glacial knot
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print a stamp to stamp the labels onto your parcels

deft pewter
hushed basalt
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If he could read he'd be very upset

clear ferry
hushed basalt
clear ferry
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I have no friends on keybase

last cedar
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I have no friends 🤣

lapis cipher
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only raccoons?

last dirge
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pair programming is still a thing?

cedar chasm
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a friend of mine mentioned doing pair programming in a WFH setting over Teams as well, so yes, still going strong

last dirge
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"how can we spend twice the money and get half the results?"

cedar chasm
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maybe it's a low key way of putting an errant programmer with one that's performing up to spec, hoping the good programmer rubs off on the other, and not the other way around

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if that doesn't work out...

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Glue factory

lapis cipher
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i guess that educational work can be considered as pair programming since by definition (more or less) one writes and one reads, at least that's how we've used "it" to show how to do things

last dirge
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this place wants a "90 minute pair programming exercise" as part of the interview process

cedar chasm
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Well in that case it's more of an interpersonal test, right?

lapis cipher
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Hmm, that's actually not so bad idea, we've used to give homework

last dirge
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the recruiter can't tell me if that's how it always is or if that's just for the interview

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which seems odd

cedar chasm
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To see if hiring that person means you'll have to invest in UV lighting for everyone, so they don't get dragged in by the gloom

lapis cipher
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whoa, something stinks in that then

last dirge
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I don't think I could deal with that 100% of the time

lapis cipher
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if you are supposed to work within 1 meter of some colleague on the same screen all day.. that's something that should be told in advance, you quitting after first day doesn't exactly be good for either party

last dirge
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it's a remote gig

lapis cipher
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for now..

last dirge
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says it'll stay that way

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I've been working 100% remote for 7 years, not doing that would suck

lapis cipher
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cool, its so much different then with screen sharing or similar

cedar chasm
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If it's 100% WFH, I doubt 100% pair programming can be a thing

last dirge
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the recruiter also can't answer how the pair programming would work for the interview, if there would be a remote system I'd be given access to or if I'm supposed to have stuff set up on my machine

cedar chasm
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I can't even with these new-fangled recruitment processes

last dirge
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I haven't looked for a gig in 7 years

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it's fun to find out how your skillset's kept up after that long

subtle pasture
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They had a pre-interview where you were given prompts to respond to, and it'd take video recordings of you responding... Some questions had unlimited takes, some had limited takes, and some were single-take only.

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And everything was timed

last dirge
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haha

subtle pasture
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"This is supposed to be a job interview, not an anxiety-inducing gameshow from hell"

cedar chasm
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That sounds a lot like this one episode of 'Middleditch and Schwartz' :p

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looking for it

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Episode 3, Season 1

subtle pasture
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I can totally see how this got implemented. Someone pitched it, it sounded great because "we can just send people to a website, and watch their interviews later"

cedar chasm
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'Dream Job'

subtle pasture
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But from a potential employee's perspective, it was awful

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I've kept in touch with them... they're still using that same application process, and many, MANY more people have complained about it. lol

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And they just "can't seem to fill seats" for some reason 🙄

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Maybe they'll learn and have normal phone (or Zoom) interviews...

cedar chasm
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Netflix doesn't seem to have a share function I can pin down, but I think you would appreciate Episode 3 of the first season @subtle pasture

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Middleditch & Schwartz

lapis cipher
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[x] customer is an ass - Pfew, finally got it, that wraps the day then 😄

last cedar
deft pewter
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All my internal interviews since then have been your traditional face-to-face stuff.

last cedar
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I haven't actually done that, yet

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Great idea though!

deft pewter
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Finally got round to setting up somewhere to save all my random notes so I don't have to relearn things every few months 😄

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Like 'which bastard file do I update in Linux to do X?'

noble pivot
glacial knot
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until you got enough notes that you need to learn which info is hwere

deft pewter
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Only took a couple of minutes using Docker Compose.

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I didn't want a traditional wiki. This is a nice compromise.

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The taxonomy is sensible: Shelves -> Books -> Pages

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You're able to tag pages to make things easier to find, though I only have one page so far 😄

lapis cipher
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i have very funny way.. i use mail drafts, readily available, local and cloud-backed, searchable but most importantly effortless, i have not had any need for structure, they keywords will trigger 99,5%

deft pewter
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Fortunately, I was able to find that ddclient.conf in my bash history this time. But now I don't have to trawl through history.

glacial knot
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what's ddclient again? :probsDerp:

deft pewter
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Eh... I used to use mail drafts but there's no organisation system there and you end up with loads of drafts in your mailbox.

lapis cipher
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i mostly comment my notes / code snippets / commands so they could be moved to a wiki of some sort but they are all personal so see no need or reason to put the effort into it at this point

deft pewter
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ddclient is for dynamic DNS stuff. If I add a domain to that file, it'll update my public DNS records.

noble pivot
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@deft pewter Thanks. will deffo take a look into that. Looks good from the web page 🙂

glacial knot
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oh right, that's where I saw it. dyndns

deft pewter
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ddclient is amazing if you want to point multiple domains at your home server and then let a reverse proxy figure out the last hop.

clever mortar
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Until you get a static IP from your ISP, at which point the problem goes away 😛

lapis cipher
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But sure, mileage will vary, i've got 1600 drafts and its really not meant for that but over the years i've settled to it

deft pewter
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Yeah... Virgin Media don't do static IP's, unfortunately.

noble pivot
deft pewter
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🤔

lapis cipher
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haha

glacial knot
clever mortar
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Yeah, but any DNS will do then 😉

glacial knot
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also, I don't want a static IP for my home setup o.0

clever mortar
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Pfft, makes life so much easier 😄

deft pewter
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Nothing wrong with a static IP. You have security, right?

clever mortar
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When I did have cable I had a "dynamic" IP that changed something like 4 times over a decade

noble pivot
clever mortar
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Mobile broadband 😉

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CGNAT for the pain

glacial knot
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How would you relate static/dynamic ip with security? D:

deft pewter
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And have your DNS records expire every 15 minutes for good measure.

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No-one will access your home server.

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(not even you...)

glacial knot
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my home server isn't exposed to the internet either way
Step one is to connect to the VPN, step 2 is the server

deft pewter
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I hate bad TTL settings. In my previous role, I managed a bunch of public-facing websites. Forcing through new content was a PITA with the stupidly long CloudFlare retention policies they had in place.

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After every deploy, there was a call to IT to ask them to invalidate the cache 🤢

glacial knot
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sounds like pain

deft pewter
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Yup. I made sure to put a step in my GitHub Actions to invalidate my CloudFlare cache whenever I publish to my blog. That's one manual step I don't want to have to do every damned deploy 😂

clever mortar
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🤣

deft pewter
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I think I should encourage my current team to automate their release notes instead of the current process which involves nagging every developer individually to find out what they've worked on recently and whether their PR's have been approved and merged... 🤦‍♂️

glacial knot
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That sounds like pain

deft pewter
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Indeed. Our deployments are okay but the pre-deployment admin is the reason we all try to avoid getting involved 😂

wanton mortar
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i have a NUC coming. curious how yall would install HA. i was thinking of creating a virutal box VM and installing the HA OS as a virutal machine. was gonna create another docker contained for pi hole so then i got thinking should i just install both HA and Pihole in a docker container together?

clever mortar
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And if you want further guidance, #general-archived would be a better place than here 😛

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(personally, Container all the way)

deft pewter
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There are other installation methods? 🤯

wanton mortar
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@clever mortar ill move it. my bad

clever mortar
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That's ok, we only feed people to the dogs after the second offence

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Though, currently, they're just puppies, so you'll be licked to death...

wanton mortar
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@clever mortar shit i appreciate that

clear ferry
cedar chasm
clear ferry
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No kink shaming here

subtle pasture
cedar chasm
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Fun furry anecdote. I have one Halloween picture of myself in a cartoon frog outfit on my Facebook, and one time a person from my old scout troop came out to me as furry.
I mean, yes no kink shaming but he was barking up the wrong tree

deft pewter
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I'm not even sure furries have a kink. They're just degenerates 🤷‍♂️

clever mortar
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Eh, I've known stranger people

deft pewter
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You mean like Glaswegians?

winter wren
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for tinkerer today 🙂

cedar chasm
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I mean, in the grand scheme of things, Them playing dress-up is pretty benign compared to global warming and pointed sticks

clever mortar
winter wren
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i watched yesterday a nice norvegian movie

clever mortar
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the only upside of London is that it's not as cramped as some other cities...

cedar chasm
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Which movie, @winter wren

deft pewter
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Dead Snow? Trollhunter?

winter wren
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mirakel ...aka Miracle

deft pewter
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winter wren
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atx..u have phone number of eva rose ? getting older but sweeet

deft pewter
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Eva Rose is Swedish 😉

winter wren
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not allowed to watch horrors 😦

deft pewter
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Not allowed? Maybe when you're older 😄

winter wren
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my wife is the reason u naughty boy

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i am old enough 😦

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indeed..swedish...but she and olivia wilde....deserve romantic trips in scandinavian forrests :)))

cedar chasm
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:o

forest edge
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you people are weird

deft pewter
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That got dark.

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Darker than Nazi zombie movies.

winter wren
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oh boys..just for pleasure

deft pewter
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Yeah. We don't talk about kidnapping people.

cedar chasm
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Antidote

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Those facial expressions

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"What's wrong with these bloody humans ?"

deft pewter
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Shared that with the wife, she loved it.

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Could hear her laughing from another room.

cedar chasm
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Someone was inspired the day that was staged

deft pewter
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Staged? Do you mean to tell me they didn't dress themselves up like that?

cedar chasm
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Wouldn't dream of it

deft pewter
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Good. Cos that's the kind of evil no-one should be spreading, even Watchtower users.

cedar chasm
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Penguins make great stewards of watchtowers

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We'll take dogs in penguin -attire in a pinch

deft pewter
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Are you also a Watchtower reader?

cedar chasm
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Nah, I have seen the watchmen

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And heard that one Hendrix song they baked into Battlestar Galactica

deft pewter
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So you watch the watchmen.

cedar chasm
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Someone has to

deft pewter
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Just don't blink

cedar chasm
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The first episode with those angels was pretty good

deft pewter
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I think I've forgotten most of the earlier stuff.

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But I'm getting old...

clear ferry
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I loved the weeping angel forest in the doctor who exhibit in Cardiff

forest edge
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🥱

clear ferry
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Hey, don't post GIFs of @forest edge

clear ferry
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I suddenly found out my pi was a dhcp

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And my router was disabled

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These people should not be automating their houses

forest edge
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it's the one's who don't know what they are doing yet want to do the most complex of setups and make their whole family have to use it that make my eyebrow raise

clear ferry
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Oh, you have also seen the average HAOS user I see

subtle pasture
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My first rule of smarthome kit has always been "if all else fails, it needs to work at least as well as the original stand-alone not-smart device"

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This is mostly related to lighting, and thankfully Lutron switches and Hue bulbs have pretty foolproof fallbacks for manual/analog control

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Gotta keep the partner acceptance factor high, ya' know <_<

clear ferry
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Even better

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Just don't let the smart stuff stop

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I've had about 40 minutes of downtime the last 2.5 years

subtle pasture
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That's a given

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But the fallbacks need to work 😛

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I have HomeAssistant (and all of the various hubs it's integrated with) on a 1500vA pure sign wave UPS. It'll stay up for hours with the power out.

forest edge
subtle pasture
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@forest edge This is why all of my physical switches are Lutron switches smart

forest edge
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I wouldn't have any inside home smart lights

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just asking for pain

subtle pasture
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Huh?

deft pewter
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If you can also use them as dumb switches, there's literally no problem here.

subtle pasture
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This ^

deft pewter
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And in the event of a power cut, we're all gonna have to use candles anyway 🤷‍♂️

subtle pasture
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All of my Lutron Caseta switches function just fine as physical light switches, even if the hub is powered off

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So they're no worse than the original dumb switches, at worst

forest edge
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that thing you linked was zigbee

subtle pasture
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Yes, and?

forest edge
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but no, just in general

subtle pasture
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It also doesn't require a hub to function. The Aurora can be linked directly with multiple bulbs.

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You can use Hue bulbs and an Aurora dimmer with no Hue hub whatsoever. Pretty cool 🙂

clear ferry
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I need to replace the last two dumb bulbs around my house some day

deft pewter
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You shouldn't speak about your wife and daughter like that.

clear ferry
forest edge
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oh no you have areas that can't glow in pastel colors?

subtle pasture
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But, again, worst case? You pop the dimmer nob off the wall, and use the toggle switch that it was covering... which will absolutely turn hue bulbs on and off 😛

forest edge
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worst case is, you pop the knob off, replace the bulbs

subtle pasture
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Why replace the bulbs?

clear ferry
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ZigBee all yes

subtle pasture
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Hue bulbs function just like dumb light bulbs if they're not being controlled

forest edge
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why have smart bulbs unless you are using rgb?

deft pewter
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Colour temperature?

subtle pasture
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I have track lighting, and wanted to be able to dim each bucket individually for various scenes

clear ferry
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CT and brightness control fool

forest edge
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you can buy non smart in any range

deft pewter
subtle pasture
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And installing 4 switches per-track was... stupid...

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smart bulbs were WAY easier

deft pewter
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If you want variable... smart.

clear ferry
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Bulbs that change all day

forest edge
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ew

subtle pasture
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What is that "ew" even in response to? lol

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I know track lighting isn't for everyone, but "ew"? 😛

deft pewter
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For someone that spends their whole life on this server, Sonoma sure does hate smart stuff.

subtle pasture
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Right? 😂

deft pewter
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I think he's only here to troll atx 😄

forest edge
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just foolish smart stuff lol

subtle pasture
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I dunno how you're against it even when, in the worse-case, it behaves just like the original dumb switch/bulb...

forest edge
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you gotta rip the knob off

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but that is just that one product

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most people don't have that

subtle pasture
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Only if zigbee is completely jammed...

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But yeah, there's a fallback that involves a single plastic clip so that the toggle switch can be used

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Not a big deal when it works 99.9% of the time

forest edge
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I think it's foolish because if something were to happen to me or something in that "chain" of stuff that has to work for it all to work went wrong I wouldn't want family/friends stuck not knowing why they sitting in the dark lol

subtle pasture
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What chain? The nob talks directly to the bulbs. lol

forest edge
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reminds me of that dude who smartified his bathroom and showered in the dark

subtle pasture
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or, in the case of MOST of my lighting, they're just smart switches that work regardless

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Bathroom has Lutron switches

forest edge
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@hushed basalt watched mad max last night, good stuff lol

subtle pasture
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The only lighting in my house that's Hue is the accent lighting (corner lamps and such). All of the main lighting in every room is Lutron.

hushed basalt
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You mean the documentary about Australia

forest edge
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pretty much lol

forest edge
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@deft pewter not everyone in this server has to agree that turning everything to "smart" is a smart idea

subtle pasture
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We're not saying you have to smartify your setup, but don't "ew" perfectly functional setups 😛

forest edge
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I wasn't even ew'ing you, you just assumed i was lol

subtle pasture
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Nope, I didn't assume, I asked

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And then cracked a joke

forest edge
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and i didn't answer, then you assumed

subtle pasture
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Didn't assume, made a joke at your expense. lol

forest edge
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was actually ew'ing atx if you must know

subtle pasture
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I was rather sure you didn't mean the track lighting

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Though I'm curious how you'd solve the track lighting problem without smart bulbs. Two tracks, 4 buckets each... would you just straight-up install 8 dimmer switches?

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I've seen that done before, but it's a fuckload of wiring

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And it was in a store, not a home. lol

forest edge
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what

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track lighting is x amount of bulbs off one switch

subtle pasture
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No, individually dimmed buckets

forest edge
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or do you mean seperate can lights?

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never seen an individually dimmable track light fixture

subtle pasture
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They exist, but the amount of wiring required is... prohibitive

forest edge
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how do you even control it by default?

subtle pasture
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I mean, the hard-wired ones? You install one dimmer switch per light on the track. Each switch connects to a different segment of track

forest edge
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so each light has wires that run to the same point

subtle pasture
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Some of the segments are wide enough to have multiple lights slotted in, so one switch would then control a group

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But you end up with 8 switches on the wall to control one fixture, which is a bit nutty...

forest edge
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they make multi button single gang switches

subtle pasture
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Yeah, have fun getting that wired up in a single-gang box...

forest edge
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well you bought it lol

subtle pasture
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I don't think single-gang boxes are actually rated to have that many drops terminate in them

forest edge
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said 4 lights?

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a nsingle gang can have that many

subtle pasture
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8 lights total, in my setup

forest edge
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but it's not like the wires coming off it is 12ga or anything lol

subtle pasture
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i tell you, it was a lot easier to just screw-in 8 smart bulbs

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The alternative was replacing two tracks with WAY more expensive ones, and running 6 new drops, and then figuring out the switch situation

forest edge
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maybe but again, if something goes wrong and you are not around to fix it.. it's worthless

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thats why I choose not to smart light the inside of my home

subtle pasture
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No? Just hit the toggle switch >_>

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Or use the main room light, which is on a Lutron switch

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The track lighting is accent lighting, it's not the end of the world if it doesn't come on

forest edge
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I dunno about you but if i had something like that and something happened to me, my wife or family member would see the fixture as broke and chuck it lol

subtle pasture
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They'd toggle the switch, see that the lights come on, and chuck it?

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lol?

deft pewter
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They can just use your life insurance to get it replaced, right?

deft pewter
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Sure. Why not?

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You're the one talking about scenarios where you're no longer around.

forest edge
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talking about not leaving something complex left to be dealt by someone else

deft pewter
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Well it wouldn't be complex once they pay a professional to replace it 😂

subtle pasture
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Even if it were wired up 100% analog, it'd be a complex setup

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The smart bulbs actually made it a lot less complex, tbh

deft pewter
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Yeah. There's a reason electricians cost a ton.

forest edge
#

i mean if the answer to everything was throw money at it... sure

deft pewter
#

So if your house's electrics broke, you wouldn't have to throw money at it?

subtle pasture
#

Yeah, the smart bulb solution WAS cheaper, now that you mention it. lol

forest edge
#

confused why you would even buy that fixture in the first place

subtle pasture
#

@forest edge Thankfully, I didn't have to, because smart bulbs added the functionality to my existing fixtures 😄

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The analog alternative was cost/time/effort prohibitive

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And, you should LOVE this part: you an always use them like any normal analog light fixture, because there's still a toggle switch

deft pewter
#

But what happens if you die?

forest edge
#

it seems to me you are just trying to argue for the justification as if someone saying they disagree with smart lighting the inside of thier home was somehow an insult to your decision to buy a complex fixture that required smart bulbs to dumb down

subtle pasture
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if covering it bothers you so much, use a Hue remote and leave the toggle visible at all times

deft pewter
#

complex fixture that required smart bulbs to dumb down
I can't even...

forest edge
#

they said required 8 switches

subtle pasture
forest edge
#

whjat would you call it?

subtle pasture
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if I went the non-smart-bulb route, I'd need 8 switches

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But since I didn't, I don't

deft pewter
#

Reading's tough

forest edge
#

well i don't think you would need 8 switches either for a non smart solution

deft pewter
#

For individual control over 8 lights, you would.

subtle pasture
#

How else you going to individually dim 8 lights on a track?

deft pewter
#

🤣

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The lights should just know

forest edge
#

told you they make single gang multi button switches

subtle pasture
#

Hell, most professional stage lighting rigs don't even use analog control these days, it's all wireless...

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And they're dealing with a hell of a lot more than 8 cans

forest edge
#

there is an analog for everything

subtle pasture
#

yeah, I know, I mentioned the analog option and how much of a pain it'd be to install 😛

forest edge
#

the difficulty is irrelevant

subtle pasture
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Even if you did find a single-gang switch with 8 sliders on it (yikes), it doesn't negate needing to run all that wiring or replace fixtures...

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When I could... you know.. just screw in 8 bulbs and be done...

lapis cipher
#

stage lighting is very much still hardwired all the way

forest edge
#

again, you sound like your trying to justify your decision. i don't care about any of that. lol

subtle pasture
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Not trying to justify it, just asked how you'd do it

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Sounds like you'd deal with hard-wiring everything

forest edge
#

for sure

subtle pasture
#

Which is valid, though WAY more expensive, and with very little pay-off

forest edge
#

well i wouldn't buy that fixture to begin with lol

subtle pasture
#

Also, then you can't recall scenes, you'd have to set every slider to your preference every time...

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So it still isn't at feature parity 🤷‍♀️

#

Just sounds a little crazy to replace fixtures and install new in-wall drops and switches when a bulb replacement will do the same damn thing.

forest edge
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in my situation I don't need nor want my lights to change in accordance to the day time throughout the day. i just want them to come on when someone flips the switch and at most require someone needing to screw in a new lightbulb so that's why i have ths tance i have on smart lighting the inside. as for everything else, to each thier own

subtle pasture
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i just want them to come on when someone flips the switch and at most require someone needing to screw in a new lightbulb
This is literally all of my Lutron switches. lol

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They work like normal switches, with normal bulbs

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The hub only adds features, there's no down-side

forest edge
#

you were the one who dived down this rabbit hole about this abnormal fixture lol

lapis cipher
#

Are you two on drugs or where do you get the power to this just about stupidest ever arguing that just keeps going on for nth hour already? 😮

subtle pasture
#

My fixture is quite normal, which is why I used smart bulbs smart

forest edge
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I don't argue, ever

subtle pasture
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it's two old-school tracks with 4 cans installed in each

forest edge
#

I state my opinion and thats it lol

subtle pasture
#

And I gotta say, having individual control of each light is pretty sweet

forest edge
#

individually dimmable lights on a track light is abnormal

subtle pasture
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not with smart bulbs 🤯

sour escarp
#

o.O

forest edge
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I meant the fixture itself is abnormal

deft pewter
#

Something's abnormal here, that's for sure 😂

subtle pasture
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Nope, MY fixtures are 100% normal old-school track lights, with no ability to individually dim each can

forest edge
#

yea, your breathe

subtle pasture
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Like I said, I'd need to replace them with MUCH more expensive tracks to get individually dimmable cans with analog control.

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or... just install smart bulbs

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Which is what I did...

forest edge
#

wtf that isn't what you said earlier lol

subtle pasture
#

yes it is...

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Dude, read >_>

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I said I'd need to replace the fixtures to do it without smart bulbs. lol

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I've repeated it multiple times, in fact

forest edge
#

yea not scrolling up

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anyways, so the fixture is normal you just wanted to create your own monster. got it

lapis cipher
#

you both have said same stuff so many times i already can predict pretty well what the next lines will be 🤣

subtle pasture
lapis cipher
#

my bad, opinions, we saw last night too some opinions, it was close to bloodbath 😮

deft pewter
#

Oooo, what did I miss? 😄

subtle pasture
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What happened last night? O.o

lapis cipher
#

just regular opinions, or arguing, just different topic than today 🙂

forest edge
#

was some misunderstanding and communication on both convos that lead to this lol

lapis cipher
#

things tend to heat up when nobody stands back on their opinions

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hmm bad english.. sorry, dunno what that means even myself..

dusky plank
#

windows is best

lapis cipher
#

NO!

forest edge
#

windows does own, i gotta admit

dusky plank
#

windows owns my surface book now for sure

forest edge
#

that picture would be even better if that were an actual bikers vest

hushed basalt
forest edge
#

so was mad max like blown up around au in the 80's when it came out or do you know?

#

I know shits tons of people here recreated that interceptor

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we even have a car around here that is mad max themed still driving around lol

deft pewter
#

Post-apocalyptic themes fit well in the US smart

forest edge
#

well we gotta pretend we are like other countries from time to time or else we forget there are less fortunate people out there

hushed basalt
#

😂

short lion
#

Mild fever

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RIP me

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GF made jello for me

last cedar
#

Its the rona!

cedar chasm
#

I've been in for a test 4 times since the crisis began. Hasn't been rona yet.
As bad as it is it's not the twelve monkeys virus yet

molten osprey
#

raspberry pi and m.2 ssd mounted side by side on a tray for a 3.5-inch drive slot

#

invert the pi so that the power and hdmi can also be plugged in (i hope)

#

first time i've seen an m.2 stick

#

"thats crazy! 2TB in the size of a stick of gum!"

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was my response

forest edge
#

should see how short some of the b key ones are

#

another dumb thing, the invention of drives in every size you can think of

#

I mean come on

forest edge
#

just edited an automation in a long time and holy cow the UI has changed for that hehe

clear ferry
#

UI edits 🤢

forest edge
#

it's getting more complex. not bad but way more complex

deft pewter
#

Imagine getting angry that you have a choice of products. 🤔

#

Let's go back to the days of the Model T. None of those fancy schmancy colours. Black or black.

forest edge
#

what you ranting about now?

#

anyone know the name of those clips that have like a long alligator type end but only the very end of the alligator is the connection part? for like spanning across a circuit board

clear ferry
#

what

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oh

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I think I know what you mean

forest edge
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they like clamp but not alligator, non teeth only the very tip has the connection while the rest of it is just long so you can span across a small board

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i saw them in a video once and forgot to look to see if the name of them was mentioned

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and now i want them lol

clear ferry
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Like this one, without teeth in the middle

forest edge
#

yea kind of, think they were alittle longer and less bulky too

clear ferry
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I've seen ones like that

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maybe 15 years ago

forest edge
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i need a name so i can try and find and buy them lol

#

everything is grabber or hooks and that is not what i want

lapis cipher
#

Not this kind?

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oh, nvm, you got comment in between already

#

i know the feeling, i was yesterday looking for a component but couldn't remember the name..

forest edge
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picture that being a clamp but the very end curved down to make the connection and everything else inbetween was plastic

lapis cipher
#

perkele, i started to google around because i am now bothered by the clips 😄

#

but at least i found needle piercing probes 😄

lapis cipher
clear ferry
#

Songs about git

#

WTF

cedar chasm
#

Bah bah , what I was typing on my phone didn't pan in to a worthy sentence but #the-water-cooler is for shitposts so let the good times roll

clear ferry
lapis cipher
#

I see your hassio booting up there on a pi with sd card 🤣

#

but, nice office you've got

clear ferry
#

Don't you HASSIO me

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ya fecker

subtle pasture
#

They're mostly empty space these days

dusky plank
#

714 kb/s ? what is this atx? vdsl?

clear ferry
#

Reminds me of the 3.5" replacement drives we have for legacy systems

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Contains a 2.5" drive and an adapter

#

Both on FC and SAS drives

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@dusky plank rpi0w

winter wren
#

need more displays atx?

clear ferry
#

Yes, would like 2 more

winter wren
#

24 or 32 inch?

clear ferry
winter wren
#

magenta...fucsia...purple..

low harness
#

ubuntu-color

winter wren
#

paint walls in pink for alternating colours

clear ferry
clear ferry
#

Gonna run screenly on the top screen

#

let's see if I can get my calendar showing, stats on services on my network and video feed based on movement

clear ferry
#

I should change the background of my laptop, but to what

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not pictures of my daughter, that is just tacky, I hate people who have family photos as background pictures 😄

glacial knot
#

When I get home, I can share the one I’ve been using for the last couple years
It’s just very slightly weeb

clear ferry
#

There we go

lapis cipher
#

Have you tried pictures of other families, neighbors and so on, that would be really tacky?

clear ferry
#

noice

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good idea

#
[Intro]
[Phone rings]
"Hello?
Well, well, how are you?
Uh.. who is this?
Who do you think this is?
Stop it.. who is this?
You know very well who I am..
You almost got away from me, didn't you?
Oh my god.. you can't be.. you can't be!
Ha ha
Oui, oui, mon amour... c'est moi."```
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That cover was so good in 4K I had to pick up my 12 string for the first time in two months and play Pigs (Three Different Ones) for a bit

#

SORRY ABOUT THAT

#

AI upscaling is amazing

lapis cipher
#

can we expect a live stream tomorrow evening from your upper floor basement?

clear ferry
#

Last time I tried to stream some piano @forest edge just was angry SadCat

hushed basalt
#

Using python to write 70 million rows of fake random data

#

Such misuse of power

clear ferry
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was it you who called me @hushed basalt ? some fecker has called me twice from OZ

hushed basalt
#

Yes, there is only me

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I am Australia

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Population me, and your mum

clear ferry
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😦

lapis cipher
#

i haven't been playing anything for quite some time now.. I've got drums at home but.. actually two kits, just no inspiration of any kind, also left all the band stuff

clear ferry
#

I have digital drums

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my daughter loves it, and we don't disturb anyone

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I have....about a dozen guitars, and a few bass guitars, and a synth and some midi stuff

#

I did buy a slide guitar over a year ago

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haven't learned to play it yet

#

awwww yeah, google maps now has dark threme as a default option

#

fuuuck yes

dusky plank
#

converted a qcow2 to vmdk... went from 61gb to 24gb, could that be valid?

clear ferry
#

probably just 0 blocks padded on the end

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because people who made the image are tools

dusky plank
#

so... I take that personally. I'm a tool 🦶

lapis cipher
#

good stuff ^@clear ferry Been involved with music and shit all my life, now a bit quiet..

clear ferry
#

I usually play alone

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because I have terrible rythm

#

I just love music

#

😄

#

I did have a band at work for 2 years, and I was in a band in high school, and in secondary school

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but that is about it

lapis cipher
#

i was on a company house band as well, we played on summer and winter/christmas parties

#

it then kinda died of away and some players left to other companies over the time

#

also was on party band but that died away as well (for multiple reasons)

clear ferry
#

I should share my neighbours keyboard collection..

#

reminds me, I still need to fix her Rhodes amplifier

hushed basalt
lapis cipher
#

that's some serious collection

dusky plank
#

why is esxi 7.0 u2 not free to download for me 😢

lapis cipher
#

its not for poor

dusky plank
#

oh man, 6.7 here we go

lapis cipher
dusky plank
#

I see that

lapis cipher
#

Good to know my pictures can be seen 😄

dusky plank
#

great, after installing esxi to usb my debian on ssd became unbootable, it was unplugged while setting up on usb 😮 wth

hushed basalt
dusky plank
#

they all look like linux users tbf

lapis cipher
#

the look "my kernel isn't compiling" 😄

dusky plank
#

if it was at least some error... but o/s not found

lapis cipher
#

good times, family left to cottage, all options are open, should plan for something fun.. ok i'll just stay at home then

short lion
#

I'm still alive

#

Doc thinks it's a cold

#

Lucky me

mint estuary
#

@clever mortar apropos of nothing, do you use smokeping with PiHole in the same stack? I hit a bug (it has a long github thread) where smokeping doesn't even load the webui if you're using an internal DNS

lapis cipher
#

huh?

mint estuary
#

hmm weird. I've had so many DNS issues the last week or two with PiHole, I dunno wtf is going on

clever mortar
#

I've run internal DNS pretty much since I first got a home internet connection - dialup days

mint estuary
#

I've certainly been running PiHole without issues for years

#

all my docker contains seem to have dns issues all the time now

#

and docker daemon stopped being able to write to syslog this week, because 'localhost' no longer resolves inside containers, so the syslog server couldn't be found

clever mortar
#

I had an issue the other day where one of my PiHoles stopped responding

#

Showed up as 2.5 minute delays in nmap_tracker and a 5+ minute delay in HA's startup

dusky plank
#

where is the resolv.conf of a host with pihole (on it) supposed to point at?

#

as soon as I install pihole it directs to itself (because I set my router with dhcp otion 6 to set all clients to the pihole host)
I need to chattr the resolv file

mint estuary
clear ferry
deft pewter
#

Alpine, you say? You just deployed a more complicated Docker container 😂

glacial knot
#

lxd does have container instances these days iirc

mint estuary
#

actually i'm running docker inside the alpine instance 😉

#

ehhhh, I could never get on with lxd's and lxc's in proxmox

glacial knot
#

erm, proxmox. Lxd is containers =.=

#

lxd >>> docker

mint estuary
#

right, and portainer supports LXCs

#

I'd rather have a VM running alpine + docker + pihole, than an LXC in Proxmox running PiHole, is what I mean

glacial knot
#

Why?

mint estuary
#

dockerhub has 99.9% of images I need, and stackexchange has 99.9% of the answers to issues

#

plus the mental segregation of knowing a VM is a VM...i dunno, prefer knowing that stuff is completely split

#

I tried an LXC for something simple and it was a pain in the ass

clear ferry
#

Proxmox no

#

Lxc no

glacial knot
#

old lxc, or lxc2/lxd? Because old lxc was quite the pita

mint estuary
#

no idea, and thats half the problem isn't it - if you want to kill a technology, make sure you name it something confusing

#

and then evolve it into a fork, that is called almost the same

#

so that by the end of it nobody has any idea what you're talking about 👏

mint estuary
#

please check out my fork of docker, flopper 😄

burnt cave
#

USA is banning mail order vape stuff

#

very lame

#

back to ciggies ig

#

/s

last dirge
#

balloob just posted that Nabu Casa "owns" ESPHome now

mint estuary
#

cool, prob makes sense

clear ferry
#

@last dirge time to migrate to tasmota you say JodieScronch

deft pewter
#

All dem layers.

#

I like abstraction as much as the next software engineer but that's just whack.

dusky plank
#

you don't do that. go in your corner!

clear ferry
#

But @deft pewter

deft pewter
#

They'll never get past the third firewall!

#

Even my wife mocked a line in a show recently. They said they only had one more firewall to get through... 🤔

#

How on earth do you know it's the last one until you're through?

clear ferry
#

My wife always mocks any show that mentions mainframes

deft pewter
#

But why? 🤔

dusky plank
#

odd, my m92p mini lenovo cutie apparently forgot how to boot from internal sata. how safe is booting esxi from usb stick?
afaik it loads everything in ram and barely writes stuff to usb?

brisk glen
#

And before it’s a firewall routing loop

#

Hey, we seen this firewall before

last cedar
clear ferry
#

@dusky plank redirect logs

last dirge
#

webcam recommendations, whatcha got?

clear ferry
#

@last dirge I'm very happy with my AliExpress camera

last dirge
#

something I can get in less than a month

dusky plank
#

rsyslog?

clever mortar
#

I have a Logitech StreamCam - it rocks

#

Not cheap, but really good

last dirge
#

they're proud of that thing

deft pewter
clear ferry
last dirge
#

wonder if I can use my mirrorless camera like a webcam

#

HMMMMM

clever mortar
#

I know Nikon released an update to do exactly that with the SLRs

last dirge
#

SLR is for CHUMPS

#

I'm calling your $180 webcam expensive

#

then saying "hey, I wonder if my $400 camera with a $800 lens will be good"

#

LOL

clever mortar
#

Eh, the camera was a lot more than that 😛

#

I haven't tried it as a webcam though, maybe I should 🤔

last dirge
#

I bought one that's 2 generations old

#

Fujifilm X-T2

clever mortar
#

Mine is.... not recent

last dirge
#

bought it used

#

I was wrong, it was $600

clever mortar
#

Mine is about a decade old now

#

Still, being a DSLR it does produce rather nice photos regardless

lapis cipher
#

image quality is the last thing i am looking from a webcam but if it integrates with Other(tm) stuff then its good 😄

#

boss has been pushing me to buy one for the meetings, i keep laptop cover closed as it otherwise screws external displays and refuse to open the lid

last dirge
#

SAME

#

recruiter "are you available for a zoom call?"

#

me "do I need a webcam?"

lapis cipher
#

"sure" (joins without video) 😄

last dirge
#

exactly

clever mortar
last dirge
#

nothing says professional like some headphones with RGB

#

I really hate video chat

lapis cipher
#

i do understand the "need" for seeing other people, especially now while i still don't so much fancy being live on tv..

last dirge
#

most implementations are horrible and it murders bandwidth

#

I kinda get it for an interview

clever mortar
#

Bandwidth doesn't bother me that much, but Google Chat kills CPU more than any other I've used, and that's what we use 🙄

last dirge
#

otherwise, not so much

#

Meet?

clever mortar
#

Aye, that one

last dirge
#

isn't that what they're calling Hangouts now?

clever mortar
#

Ish

#

I lose track of their changes to names, rebranding, starting new things, killing old ones...

lapis cipher
#

given my sucky internet i at times even close the incoming video to keep the audio bearable, some old farts on each show..

clever mortar
#

I have many colleagues who have terrible internet, and still try to join video chats

last dirge
#

well, I guess I better figure out if I need a camera

#

I've got gig synchronous

#

but my wifi's fuckin hammered

#

if they're going to require video I'll have to pull cable

#

BOOOO

clever mortar
#

I use wired for work, partly to avoid that problem

last dirge
#

I used wifi because laziness

#

the builder put in a conduit that runs from the basement to the attic, I just haven't been bothered to pull cable yet

lapis cipher
#

haha, i know the feeling 😄

last dirge
#

looks like it works fine, it's just way off to the side

#

doesn't let me mess with the F-stop either

deft pewter
#

How you gonna look professional without that sweet bokeh?

deft pewter
#

Anyone ever tried Googling 'emacs'?

noble pivot
#

Well I have NOW

#

And got exactly what I expected, I was thinking something exiting might show up given the question.

subtle pasture
#

Time to move to 5GHz

last dirge
#

I'm on 5GHz

#

my access point is 10 years old tho

subtle pasture
#

Is it 802.11A? lol

last dirge
#

a/b/g

#

no n

subtle pasture
#

Damn, called it...

#

Yeah, time to upgrade to a dual-band b/g/n/ac unit

last dirge
#

no wait

#

it does n

#

doesn't do AC

#

had those mixed up

deft pewter
subtle pasture
#

I was about to be REAL surprised that you were able to join an 802.11A network

#

Not much supports that

last dirge
#

I have another Access point that's PoE

#

but I don't think it does AC

#

and I only have one device that can even connect using AC

subtle pasture
#

What really sucks is when you need to accommodate 5GHz N devices

#

because they restrict what 5GHz channels you can use

#

AC devices support more channels + dynamic channels

#

I had that problem at one point. All my AC devices worked great, but my N devices couldn't even see that 5GHz WiFi existed

#

Had to move 5GHz to a more congested channel so that N devices could get the hell off 2.4GHz

#

And it was actually a fair number of devices that moved, once they could see that a 5GHz network existed. Roku, thermostat, every Echo Dot in the house, etc.

last cedar
#

Oh oh oh

#

I guess that is what happened to sons old phone

#

Only worked on certain 5Ghz channels

#

For something that the average consumer is meant to get working, wifi is very complicated

subtle pasture
#

Yeah, especially when vendors love to enable performance features by default, which ultimately reduce compatibility

#

"DFS Channels"

#

THAT was the problem

#

AC supports all of the channels in orange, and can even share airspace with weather radar

#

N can't, and won't even see a 5GHz network on those channels

forest edge
#

so does this mean esphome will be further baked into HA in future releases?

deft pewter
#

Does it need to be? It integrates flawlessly already, despite being decoupled.

#

I think they just saw a chance to ensure its longevity.

forest edge
#

nothing needs to be anything, was just curious

deft pewter
#

I guess we just wait and see.

#

I can't imagine them making any big changes. They just noticed that a project might otherwise get less attention than it needs, and it happens to be a project that a lot of us use.

forest edge
#

all the more reason to ask the question

deft pewter
#

🤔

clever mortar
#

Well, if there was more to know it'd likely be in the blog post, or the post by Otto

#

As it is... patience

forest edge
#

too early for any of that, but I am sure someone entertained the idea

deft pewter
#

Hence 'wait and see'

lapis cipher
#

I can only say this much that esp8266 will be only supported platform in the future for ha

forest edge
#

yea no shit

deft pewter
lapis cipher
#

well, i know he is busy printing esp cases but as we saw he was also installing/upgrading pi-based ha..

#

maybe he knows already and is repurposing the pi for some dunno, virtualization platform or something they are useful for

#

supposed to be away from here this evening and watch movie(s) but seems my internet does not carry the stream so..

deft pewter
#

You could just grab a rental from Blockbuster.

lapis cipher
#

if i only knew where is the nearest.. oh, i could play with console, too.. Just thought to steal the big tv for a movie as family is away and i can put volume to the max for once but no..

last dirge
#

anybody know if Wafa is a man's name or woman's name?

forest edge
#

neither my cousin's dog carries that name

deft pewter
#

Wafa, meaning 'Palestine News Agency', also known as the Palestine News Agency and the Palestinian News & Info Agency, is the news agency of the Palestinian National Authority, and was "the P.L.O.'s news agency" in the years before the formation of the PA.
Seems non-gendered to me 🤷‍♂️

last dirge
#

not helping

deft pewter
#

I sincerely apologise for the fact that it's a gender-neutral name. I hope you can forgive me.

dusky plank
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bruh, I had to update my bios and literally change every boot setting and also toggle it back to where it was until that lenovo beast recognized the ssd as boot device again

deft pewter
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You wouldn't have those problems if you ran everything off a Pi.

dusky plank
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true that

forest edge
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whats with that fascination on the pi? i miss something

dusky plank
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pi is superior in any way! just like windows

forest edge
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windows is lyfe

last dirge
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called a recruiter and had an "It's Pat!" situation

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name was Wafa

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couldn't tell from the voice one way or another

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🙂

dusky plank
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call him Waifu

ivory terrace
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i'm getting tired of this Pi Hype. Same like iPhone Hype. Common, there are 100 flavors of cheese and they are all good.

forest edge
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there was an iphone hype?

dusky plank
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banana pi, orange pi, ... lots of fruit. all great!

forest edge
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there are 100 flavors of cheese and they are all good. = negative

ivory terrace
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i missed it too, but people around me are annoying.

last dirge
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@lapis cipher Frenck posted on the blog that he and others are trying to keep the ESPHome platform and Hass more in-sync

dusky plank
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i put a 3770k once in that 70 watt lenovo mini... it started... and crashed as soon as I apt-get updated

forest edge
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just let the poor thing die already

ivory terrace
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the cheeses are all good. They sell al of them. That's what i'm saying. everyones taste. No cheese is superior. No Pi is superior. Anoyance is superior

dusky plank
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so we agree that Pi is the best?

forest edge
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especially pumpkin

last dirge
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pecan tho

deft pewter
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Pis are kids' toys. @clear ferry just loves them.

ivory terrace
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NO, Pi is good. and Intel core is also good. AMD is also good. it's a matter of personal choice.

deft pewter
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Paulus Schoutsen

dusky plank
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frenck in the off-topic house 🎉

last dirge
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someone asked about keeping ESPHome more up to date with the Hass integrations

dusky plank
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now go back to work and make some more youtube streams!

junior forge
forest edge
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we need ya to do a freudian slip frenck that answers our esp question

junior forge
deft pewter
junior forge
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😂

junior forge
forest edge
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that down arrow circle they added in chrome at the top is distracting

junior forge
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so let me pull a Sigmund out of my pocket

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I have no idea what you are talking about

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😄

forest edge
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lol

junior forge
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hehe no, of course we want HA & ESPHome to integrate well

deft pewter
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They already integrate well 🤷‍♂️

junior forge
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we all want that, as HA users, right? 🙂

deft pewter
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API and MQTT integrations are amazing.

junior forge
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Sure, they do 🙂

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But that has to stay that way 🙂

deft pewter
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I think some people will be curious if the acquisition means there will be sweeping changes. Given how well aligned they are already, this just seems like changing ownership to ensure the project continues to live.

junior forge
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The latter

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indeed

forest edge
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baking something is dosen't mean major changes, just more simplistic means of access

deft pewter
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🎉

junior forge
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In the end, ESPHome is awesome

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and fit to HA really great

deft pewter
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It's already simple. ESPHome's API integration is already there.

junior forge
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of course we want it to stay that way

forest edge
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mono almost sounds worried

deft pewter
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Uh, wut?

junior forge
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Otto has made an awesome piece of software. As per blog post; Combining was hard for Otto. Which is also visible in the project itself in the past year or so. This way, we can help moving the project forward (or alive, or whatever you want to call it)

clever mortar
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Props to everybody for finding a way forward that works

junior forge
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Its really not complicated 😄

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as in; it just goes on as is, unlocking some potential

dusky plank
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good guy otto

junior forge
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100%!

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I love the guy and hope he will be around more again in the future

forest edge
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HA/Esphome branded products like light bulbs...

junior forge
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💡 🤔

forest edge
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there are alreadt tasmota ones

junior forge
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There are?

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Awesome, that means they are flashable with ESPHome 😄

forest edge
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yea, individual companies make them but they come pre flashed

junior forge
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haven't touched tasmota myself in ages

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been pretty much using ESPHome only since it came out

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(nothing against Tasmota btw, I just don't like MQTT that much, personal brain damage I guess 🤷‍♂️ )

forest edge
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prob why people are asking about esp's future with HA cause right now they both equally integrate well but in the future one might be easier than the other etc

junior forge
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🤷‍♂️ I don't see how that relates

clever mortar
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Eh, there's always easier and "harder" options

junior forge
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yup

clever mortar
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No big deal

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I mean, some folks skip both ESPHome and Tasmota, and roll their own MQTT integration in the ESP

forest edge
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well it seems like they are paths one choose to take, many seem to go all in on one or the other

junior forge
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Ooh right

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there was I time I wrote my own firmware

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damn that is long ago

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seemed to be the normal thing back in the day

brisk glen
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I just started to use mqtt

junior forge
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LOL

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still there 😄

brisk glen
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I’m having massive regrets as it forces me to use the ha template system

deft pewter
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a.k.a Jinja

junior forge
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Man 250 lines of code providing: MQTT, Wi-Fi, LED controls and HA discovery, OTA updates and async. haha that was cool

junior forge
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We all have worked really hard to make is as complex flexible as possible

brisk glen
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I can’t figure out how to pipe a variable to base64 decode lol

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In bash? 10 seconds lol

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Idk it’s my brain and the syntax

junior forge
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{{ var | b64encode }} ?

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Not sure if we have that enabled actually

brisk glen
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Are you joking? It was that easy?

last dirge
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them pipes tho

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wooo, project $1400 webcam is a go

brisk glen
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I was trying to do shit like {{var}} | b64decode

forest edge
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the million vlan man is stumped? i do not believe it ||jk||

last dirge
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that'd just print the pipe

junior forge
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Nope

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doesn't work

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right

brisk glen
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({{ test }} | b64decode)

junior forge
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pipes are part of the var 🙂

last dirge
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gotta keep it in the jinja context for it to interpret it

junior forge
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{{ var | func }}

last dirge
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angular's pretty heavy on the pipe usage in their syntax too

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mostly for formatting though

brisk glen
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Ah

junior forge
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but nope

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we have no base 64 encoding

brisk glen
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Does not work?

junior forge
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nope

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just looking at the template engine

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its not there

last dirge
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couldn't you add a base64 plugin to the engine?

junior forge
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(it is part of Jinja though, just not enabled on our end)

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Oh

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it is renamed

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ok

brisk glen
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Dam, I have this jpg on base64 in mqtt that I need to convert to an image

last dirge
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lol

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you're putting binary shit on mqtt

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what a madlad

junior forge
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so they are there 😄

brisk glen
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Ahh, it changed, and yes I am, I’m sending camera snapshots in mqtt

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Thank you

junior forge
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sorry for helping with HA in off-topic

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please mods... forgive me 😦

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🙏

brisk glen
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It’s ok, I forgive you

forest edge
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how frigate does it, base 64 through mqtt

brisk glen
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Yes

junior forge
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I always get hungry from that tool

brisk glen
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Frigate? I was going to go back to an image and then to doods

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I wanted the original image for my Dashboard

junior forge
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frygate... fry me anything, some chicken wings or something

dusky plank
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F I'm late

brisk glen
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But yes I’m sending a lot of images over mqtt

dusky plank
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. topic

forest edge
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fail

brisk glen
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Why else would I use mqtt 🤔

junior forge
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Hey mstone

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question

dusky plank
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I won't run away

junior forge
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just really quick, to get this channel to a different subject

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How are you doing @dusky plank ?

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😄

forest edge
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those big HD images Micheal?

brisk glen
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HomeKit snapshots @forest edge so no

dusky plank
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difficult question. I'm always feeling like a piece of trash

junior forge
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Oh nice, good to hear

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haha

last dirge
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do you ever feel like a plastic bag?

forest edge
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sending images through mqtt is not efficient and you can just see it lol

junior forge
dusky plank
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well, it's better than those z-wave cameras people search for

brisk glen
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It is vs watching the API again via another integration

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Less load on the nvr

forest edge
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you using the mqtt camera on ha end to see the images?

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or just dumping them

brisk glen
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I was trying but could not view because I need to convert first

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I was planning on using doods for processing