I use modbus for WLED controller located 400m away from house @left marsh
#the-water-cooler
rare condor
leaden frost
I have a teams meeting in 6 minutes, i did the update anyway π
left marsh
Oh cool
low harness
rare condor
I also use Modbus with 9 STM32's located in my garden controlling tanks and irrigation , some also output PWM to control lights
cursive grail
https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/397426163649216512/7995435174034...
Thanks. This makes sense. So my only option is to upgrade and hope that nothing breaks.
low harness
Or you could disable all custom_components. But updating is probably better.
clever mortar
I've upgraded three boxes in the last half hour, including my production host, no issues
Production went from 0.117 to 2021.1.2 π¬
cursive grail
Or you could disable all custom_components. But updating is probably better.
I do like my custom components π
My concern is that one of them could stop working after the upgrade. I will do that anyway, of course
left marsh
I assume the docker image was updated etc. That's what I use
proven cobalt
My thermostat is one of the custom components, so it is quite important for me.
rare condor
Would a move from Home Assistant 2021.1.1 to Openhab 3.0 be an upgrade or downgrade?
left marsh
Wrong place to ask I think π€£
low harness
The update is very unlikely to cause custom components to stop working.
rare condor
No bias thanks π
cursive grail
Anyways, I have backups
clever mortar
Would a move from Home Assistant 2021.1.1 to Openhab 3.0 be an upgrade or downgr...
Clearly it would cause your house to halt and catch fire π
proven cobalt
Would a move from Home Assistant 2021.1.1 to Openhab 3.0 be an upgrade or downgr...
I never used openHab, but there will always be things beter on openhab and homeassistant
rare condor
It was more tongue in cheek, I think the consensus is these days that HASS due to popularity is more versatile thanks to large support and community base.
But certainly openhab still has some benefits and a user base.
hushed basalt
Mainframe still has a userbase
proven cobalt
Well, with all the knowledge i have built around Homassistant, i would not move to another platform and start over again
slate marsh
I do like my custom components π
My concern is that one of them could stop work...
If the custom component breaks with this extra layer of security you want to ditch that component right away
rare condor
The "makemoneyfromhome.ru" integration seems to have a security flaw?
cursive grail
If the custom component breaks with this extra layer of security you want to dit...
I agree in principle. But in the end itβs just my risk assessment between potential security issues and usefulness of a component. If the potential issue is of developers neglect, of course. Anything pure evil must be thrown out.
and these things are open source, probably could be fixed if neededβ
slate marsh
Fair enough
cursive grail
Another delight of working from home because of the pandemic: I donβt have to wait until I get home in the evening to update everything π
proven cobalt
Well you can always update remotely and hope everything works π
wraith cloak
Security flaws are mostly minor things. The commit did include filtering out some nasty injections that were possible before.
hearty depot
oh noeeezzz
clever mortar
I will say that my upgrade from 0.117.x went smoothly
low harness
- π± That must be, like, 24241 releases ago!
hearty depot
fingers crossed,
i skipped since 0.117 due to the auto discovery..
no way around now π€£
clever mortar
Admittedly with all my Z-Wave and Zigbee on other hosts, there's not a lot of critical external integrations left π
forest edge
Disclosing the vulnerable custom components could alert a potential attacker of the problem, and allow them time to attack users who are not quick enough to remove them. So does this update only impact those components and future ones and none of the others?
ember lake
@forest edge well, I saw this commit in HACS π https://github.com/hacs/integration/commit/f2b7cb711e41a94b81610f6ff96ea314e9879114
which seems pretty relevant
low harness
Please try to avoid speculation as far as possible.
low harness
We really don't like having to do it this way
low harness
`Disclosing the vulnerable custom components could alert a potential attacker of...
There really is no way to tighten all future security holes except pulling the network cable.
forest edge
I have to fumble in the dark sometimes when they update cards just to get the card back to working when there is no explicate mention of what changed to break what. most annoying thing ever so forgive me being hesitant on updating on something we know nothing about lol
low harness
And I woulnd't really trust that either
ember lake
would you be able to elaborate whether an entirely-private hassio would be vulnerable?
because mine is not reachable from the internet.
clever mortar
And I woulnd't really trust that either
Encase it in concrete, toss it into the sun, that should be safe if it gets there...
ember lake
(as are most, I'd guess)
clever mortar
Mine is reachable, but only to webhooks
forest edge
been running the same components for over a year now so I know i don't have whatever is being brought up but updating and having to fumble in the dark to fix what isn't broken would annoy me greatly
low harness
I'd rather not say. You're probably better of updating anyway - the latest release is always the best so far
ember lake
alright, so that's a yes π
clever mortar
been running the same components for over a year now so I know i don't have what...
Don't worry, I have a 0.88.6 box that's never getting updated π
hearty depot
Full blown access from the internet π
cursive grail
mine setup works fine after the upgrade, wonderful
ember lake
I always upgrade, without issues so far
forest edge
well i will update once i know what was changed lol
ember lake
clever mortar
It's even in the release notes π
cursive grail
Iβm always upgrade too. I was just concerned this could be breaking change for some components
hearty depot
lucky you you werent around for the grat migration π
stuff broke every release
forest edge
i only read what frenck posted earlier and been busy to catch up on anything posted after that
clever mortar
Iβm always upgrade too. I was just concerned this could be breaking change for s...
If it breaks, it was likely doing something shady
low harness
Those were the days. Right around card-gate too.
forest edge
and what frenck posted was vague
hearty depot
card-gate didnt hit me so bad, still were using groups and such
low harness
Card-gate 1 or card-gate 2?
hearty depot
missed probably cardgate 2 completly
low harness
First one was when npm went down and all custom cards relied on that for LitElement.
low harness
Second was when the configurations were frozen, and any card that tried to change it broke.
forest edge
ops i replied to wrong person
forest edge
If it breaks, it was likely doing something shady
not all shady is bad tho, sometimes you gotta bend some rules to achieve what you want
there
clear ferry
@deft pewter so you are the security breach π all this to spy on my teams status 
π
forest edge
uh oh incomming norwegian input
cursive grail
as I said, itβs all risk assessment. There is shady you know and can live with, and thereβs shady shady. Last one iβd probably try to avoid
cursive grail
please stand up
low harness
I'm appy as long gap card works
Best thing I ever made
I knew it'd be the perfect match for the grid card.
hearty depot
The beauty is the simplicity
β€οΈ
thanks btw π€£
hearty depot
good one
hearty depot
I gone from deepl, to duckduck straight to google sehcohrity ~= security ?
torpid oasis
deft pewter
Yeah, mine were all about the same. I'm waiting longer for some stuff from the UK π
rapid mesa
Three packages from AliExpress today
What shipping method?
deft pewter
Carrier pigeon.
They could probably do it in 8 days but the labour union said they need rest breaks.
forest edge
no surprise since I imagine what most people flush end up in norway anyways
clear ferry
forest edge
shaved for the first time in like 6 months. thought my electric shaver was going to choke out a few times
clear ferry
This is not the place to talk about your asshairs tbh, that would be #330990055533576204 please mute and hide this channel @forest edge
forest edge
just because you grow asshairs all over your face don't mean the rest of us do you eskimo dwarf
low harness
Get a room you two.
forest edge
this is a room...?
clear ferry
forest edge
pandemic pounds is nothing to be ashamed of!
low harness
clear ferry
pandemic pounds is nothing to be ashamed of!
Oh no, my pp
forest edge
oh that's right you go by tonnes there
forest edge
the sheer amount of wifi hacking station guides and tutorials popping up on youtube has me alittle concerned
deft pewter
I don't think that's a new phenomenon.
clever mortar
I don't think that's a new phenomenon.
They were relatively new ... 20+ years ago when I first dabbled
deft pewter
The thing with YouTube is that you're seeing what their algorithm wants to show you. Doesn't mean the content is new, just that YT wants you to see it now.
hushed basalt
On my 56k modem
hushed basalt
Easier?
low harness
slaps mono around with a large trout
hushed basalt
/flip
deft pewter
Yeah. Cos FOSS software needs to use open source chat tools too.
hushed basalt
(β―Β°β‘Β°οΌβ―οΈ΅ β»ββ»
deft pewter
Don't you remember the lecture we got?
hushed basalt
Even sec groups use slack
And they list their talk numbers in hex π€’
When is homeassistant/core:0x78 coming out
forest edge
i dunno most of these are dated 2020
deft pewter
I mean you're seeing those now because YT wants you to see them now. Had their algorithm decided to show you WiFi hacking in 2018, you'd see a bunch of 2018 WiFi hacking content.
forest edge
it doesn't make me any less concerned considering they are dated 2020 lol
some of these are new devices just for the act, like commercial built shit
i mean wtf
deft pewter
Well there's that commercial product sold to police to hack phones... none of this is a shock anymore.
We're getting to a point now where there's not much expectation of privacy.
forest edge
that is true
clear ferry
Wardriving? Are we back in 2001?
frozen fulcrum
so..i updated to the new version, worked for a few hours and suddenly my webui stopped responding and isn't loading even after reboot. what do i do.
clear ferry
deft pewter
You... stop asking support questions in lounge.
You're not new. You know the rules.
I used to think Egon was the most intelligent Ghostbuster. Now I'm starting to think it's Stantz.
clear ferry
hushed basalt
I just watch screen rant movie pitch for movies I know will be bad
deft pewter
The next Venom movie is out in June too.
deft pewter
It was cheesy but fun.
The Marksman is out today. Liam Neeson being Liam Neeson again.
clear ferry
Gais, am I doin diz rite?
deft pewter
Are you attaching LED strips to your car? π€
hushed basalt
Aren't they illegal that low
They are here at least
And illegal if too high
Or if you install them when saturn is inline with neptune
Also, Norway police, I'd like to report a crime. They were driving a VW with JD 69708
clear ferry
The only rule here before was all lights have to be in pairs
So 2-4-6-8-10-12
Now it just has to be within certain lumen ranges
hushed basalt
Juliet Delta shutupayourface
clear ferry
@deft pewter yes, going to go full RGB for maximum acceleration and shitkid feel
hushed basalt
All I want for the world, is for recipe sites to just have recipes on them
And not 800 words of poorly written blog trash, 8 overlay banners, 2 newletter signup videos and 3 video commercials
deft pewter
I agree with you... but they do that for SEO.
Blame Google's algorithms for demoting pages without all that shit.
hushed basalt
deft pewter
I usually stick to sites I already know for recipes rather than Googling.
The BBC site isn't too bad: https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes
allrecipes ain't too bad either: https://www.allrecipes.com/
Both get straight to the point and have no/minimal ads.
hushed basalt
Start of the recipe. For reference the scroll bar is down to where kosher salt is
deft pewter
Yeah... having to scroll over two thirds of the way down just to get to the ingredients is a joke.
hushed basalt
Google search needs to be put down really
deft pewter
For a lot of things, Google search is great. For certain content types, it's a PITA.
hushed basalt
Taken out the back shed and let new worms rise up from it's rotting corpse
It's a perfect example of why organisms don't live for ever
They'd just become self sustaining blobs of tumours and open plan offices
I need to do a LinkedIn profile picture
Do you think, glasses or no glasses
I'm leaning towards glasses
deft pewter
I'd suggest posting both here for a critique but you'll probably just get a load of shit from us π
clear ferry
@deft pewter the ledbar is AliExpress btw
deft pewter
But... why?
deft pewter
And it's legal there to just add random lights to vehicles?
hushed basalt
I find number of after market lights on a car is proportional to insecurity of the driver
west sentinel
I find number of after market lights on a car is proportional to insecurity of t...
lol
Hi all, new here just making the switch from OpenHab to HA
Hi Mono
deft pewter
Guten Tag
deft pewter
I don't want to be him βοΈ
west sentinel
lol
tropic adder
I'm installing home assistant now. I don't know why it took me so long to try it. But I do know that I am an idiot, so I'll be here reading everything, and then ask questions.
deft pewter
As long as you read channel topics, you'll be fine π
Shitposting goes in here, support goes... somewhere else.
And if you like bagpipe music, I think Tinkerer's putting on a performance later.
tropic adder
I don't think I have an opinion on bagpipes so I'll judge it entirely on Tinkerer... but it's an automatic like if it spits out flames.
deft pewter
Only when it's angry... and Tinkerer doesn't like being called an it.
tropic adder
Ha, gotcha
deft pewter
Watch out for the server's pet raccoon too.
tropic adder
Of course there's a raccoon... every server has a raccoon.
tropic adder
hushed basalt
west sentinel
I'm installing home assistant now. I don't know why it took me so long to try it...
Yeah me to Im installing it, been stuck on the Preparing Home Assistant page now for going on 45 minutes, cant run any commands as it dont look like a normal Linux OS
tropic adder
I haven't really messed with Linux, I don't think... but the video I watched said it could take a long time getting the latest version and it automatically does that
west sentinel
anyone know the default username and password for the CLI?
deft pewter
It's not a normal OS... but you want to ask in #330990055533576204 if you're having trouble
No support in here π
west sentinel
thanks Momo
deft pewter
No problem, kc.
clear ferry
Getting EU job offers now too π€
Those are atleast more interesting than the US ones
Ability to orchestrate a pursuit team
π€’
deft pewter
That actually sounds fun
They know you're an overweight slob though, right? Pursuit is not in your nature.
clear ferry
Acknowledged leadership and motivational skills in large, cross-cultural teams.
This sounds like people responsibility
people π€’
Basically the job sounds like the same things I do today, just that I do it across 8 countries instead of 1
Should I say yes @deft pewter ? You are my guiding light
heavy ginkgo
like
you either love looking at a terminal, or you love looking at teams/$(insert collab video zoom blinkylight here)/
heavy ginkgo
I cant really thing of any cool stuff that doesn't involve some sort of terminal :p
deft pewter
Skydiving.
heavy ginkgo
thats scary
deft pewter
Oh, wait... terminal velocity. π€¦ββοΈ
clear ferry
Depends on your definition of a terminal, for me that would be a VT100 monitor with attached keyboard
heavy ginkgo
SEE!
clear ferry
I work on serial ports of devices as needed, then move over to IP based management, I seldom use a terminal, although I do sometimes when I touch 25 year old servers
heavy ginkgo
how do you work on serial ports of devices?
deft pewter
With tweezers.
clear ferry
via a wireless serial dongle on my phone or my laptop, via a serial emulator of course
heavy ginkgo
see, i'd call the serial emulator a terminal :p
heavy ginkgo
I mean, most of my life is terminal emulations i suppose lol
clear ferry
If I ever use something, I use this
heavy ginkgo
the application names for most terminal emulators are like, terminator, iterm, terminal, etc :p
deft pewter
iTerm best term.
heavy ginkgo
yeah, i so like iterm, but i also end up with zsh and oh-my-zsh so i guess im fancy lol
deft pewter
zsh is the default on macOS now. It's awesome.
I just need to introduce more people to oh-my-zsh
heavy ginkgo
surprised no one put integrations for snort in HA yet... after looking at the security filter middleware i assume it might be worth it.
better than writing your own middleware for exploit mitigation
deft pewter
You could go suggest that in the dev channels π
heavy ginkgo
just did :p
if i was feeling more adventurous i'd try writing it myself lol
ugh, just learned a lot of the tuya stuff is being mitigated
there goes my dreams of cheap wifi switches that dont beacon out to strange places
these treatlife switches are $16, next cheapest z wave is $30 but it does have a repeater.
barren hound
just gotta be patient with deals. $25 for zwave switches happens
or $10 zwave bulbs
scenic radish
A lot of stuff still has ESP82xx chips though, and those can always be serial flashed
barren hound
There's also that
heavy ginkgo
yeah, i think the tuya is moving quite a few to realtek
but the wiring of the two i put in before flashing is a cluster of wiring that i dont even want to attempt to try a do over again :p
in the future, ill probably just serial flash if i can
i'm at a place where im sure many people are, trying to decide on if i should stay with wifi or go mostly z-wave
the mesh wifi is pretty well covered in the house, where z-wave is currently just a zooz stick
barren hound
two words. Radio spectrum.
heavy ginkgo
yeah...
barren hound
Zwave operates on 900ish mhz. wifi on 2.4 and rarely 5 for iot. Zigbee operates (mostly) on 2.4. bluetooth? 2.4.
hell, your microwave operates on 2.4
heavy ginkgo
i do realize there will be far less interference with z-wave
barren hound
also, lower freqs have better range, signal through tougher obstacles (like walls)
heavy ginkgo
but also, if my house has enough EMF will it become more energy efficient by diverting solar radiation? π
i may move some things over to z-wave, i do like some of the water sensors
scenic radish
ΒΏPor que no los dos?
heavy ginkgo
ΒΏPor que no los dos?
i'll likely use both, but i'll need a few repeaters for zwave atm. I do like that zwave is local, if i cant use tuya convert.
trying to decide of i want to spend money on moving fire detectors to nest protect. right now they are reverse polarity detectors that dont have internal sounders and im in the middle of a konnected convert. As it is, they literally do nothing if the alarm system isnt monitored.
clear ferry
My Xiaomi ZigBee smoke detector
tawny orchid
are those things working fine? I'm deliberating to buy those once my old ones need replaciong
midnight adder
This looks to be viable presence detection technology
They just announced at CES and how some implementations, it is using radar for the monitoring
Actually it also does people counting
orchid rose
that could be amazing
last cedar
@tropic adder non generic raccoon pfp reporting in
barren hound
man, accurate presense/occupancy is the holy grail
last cedar
@deft pewter you monster
deft pewter
π’
tawny orchid
I would love good counting.... tried that with the motion sensor in my stairwell, one down, one up, but I can't get it to count reliable, even with 1 person in the house
barren hound
I've only seen counting work semi-reliably with gate sensors (pair of beams to detect direction)
and even then, it has it's own limits
last cedar
@deft pewter did you see I forgave you?
scenic radish
DON'T TAG HIM MICHELLE
tawny orchid
yeah... well for beams I would have to start doing esp32 or pi zerro or something.. I don't think you can buy off the shelves ziggbee ones
barren hound
hahahaha, oh man. that xandar system is $400 + $10/mo for people monitor (at least corporate)
barren hound
yeah... well for beams I would have to start doing esp32 or pi zerro or somethin...
any sensor that has two external inputs would work (there are zigbee/zwave/wifi ones out there)
heavy ginkgo
i read something on the nest protect's motion sensors having decent presence detection, although i assume this system is going to be much more robust lol
deft pewter
Aren't Google working on radar-based solutions? That seems more likely to reach consumers than the one linked above.
tawny orchid
Also... why haven't I logged in to discord earlier... it's such a delight to have this hivemind when working on HA.
midnight adder
hahahaha, oh man. that xandar system is $400 + $10/mo for people monitor (at le...
Where did you get the pricing? I am curious
barren hound
Where did you get the pricing? I am curious
the googles, they do something.
https://citybizlist.com/article/625247/xandar-kardian-advanced-technology-solutionsoffercrucial-cost-effective-covid-19-safety-compliant-solutions-to-office-reopening
clear ferry
@tawny orchid haven't played with smoke yet, need to do that
forest edge
someone say something about π« and π¦
deft pewter
Am I the only one that cringes a little when someone refers to a group of people as a hive mind? π€
clear ferry
the collective
forest edge
would you prefer the term cult?
tawny orchid
Am I the only one that cringes a little when someone refers to a group of people...
hahaha sorry I mean it very positive
deft pewter
Cult is more accurate. Yes, please.
I'm not saying you meant it in a negative way. It's just... odd.
You guys share an interest, so I'll refer to you as sharing a brain
midnight adder
the googles, they do something.
https://citybizlist.com/article/625247/xandar-ka...
It would be great if we could organise some bulk buy from the HA community and see what we could get the price down too
tawny orchid
cult it is from now on π
deft pewter
$300 + $8/hour
barren hound
Cult is more accurate. Yes, please.
one of us
one of us
tawny orchid
so next time I have a question we'll start with: Hey HA cult, can you help me with this or that π
barren hound
and we'll point you to the right channel, since this is the lounge π
tawny orchid
of course I won't post it here!
barren hound
also, if you're playing around with occupancy stuff. look into "wasp in a jar"
it adds some foolproof logic around occupancy that helps with the failures of sensors
at least until proper radar/counting is available cheaply to consumers
barren hound
https://tenor.com/view/dead-space-gif-19685056
forest edge
ignore @clear ferry he is norwegian's version of Milton from the movie Office Space.
deft pewter
And just like Milton, no-one would notice if atx was in a fire.
scenic radish
:(
deft pewter
But it's okay. He prefers to work in a basement with no-one around.
scenic radish
So my OG Pixel XL died an uneventful death overnight
At least it was peacefully in its sleep
All attempts to revive it have failed, I backed up all important data yesterday since it's been spontaneously rebooting and freezing for a few days. I was going to do a factory reset but uh...can't now
deft pewter
SlΓ inte mhath
scenic radish
Currently using my Nexus 5
deft pewter
Every time a new Google phone comes out, I debate getting one. But since I never leave the house now...
tawny orchid
I recently moved to a oneplus 8T. very nice and dual sim
scenic radish
Loved the Nexus 5, but it had the "fun" issue of the touchscreen becoming partially unresponsive when the phone is plugged in
wet pilot
i'm still on the 2XL because nothing has interested me. I'm technically dual sim because i'm using the e-sim for Google Fi
scenic radish
@wet pilot I was using the OG XL for the same reason
There's one new on Amazon for $169, and I seriously might buy it
Or renewed for $119
wet pilot
its starting to show signs of failing so i'm not sure
scenic radish
Problem is the battery has been sitting for 4 years
wet pilot
i just don't know what to replace it with
scenic radish
Same
subtle pasture
Still rocking an LG v35 here, great little phone
barren hound
nah, startac > razr
wet pilot
lol get the new razr
subtle pasture
The new RAZR actually looks pretty nice (the 2nd version, not the original launch version)
scenic radish
I like stock Android too much
wet pilot
yeah new razr2
subtle pasture
Also, the song in the ad is a total bop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI4sP1uwBk4
barren hound
foldables are cool, but every one i've seen gets an ugly crease after a few months
wet pilot
oh, i don't do vzw so i guess i can't get it
new hinge on the 2 makes the radius looser so its less likely to crease
subtle pasture
@wet pilot The launch exclusivity deal with Verizon is already over
wet pilot
ah ok
clear ferry
I think my favourite modern smartphone so far is the Huawei Mate 7
The P20pro was good too though
subtle pasture
Also, the Verizon version is a "world phone" and has a SIM slot, so you can take it to any network you want
wet pilot
i think they're banned in freedomlandistan though
wet pilot
woof still 1.2k
subtle pasture
Yeah, that's some expensive nostalgia
clear ferry
Lololol
The mate 7 was $550 when I bought it
Then again, I haven't paid for a cell phone in 13 years
subtle pasture
I do love the idea of getting to use my old flip-phone muscle memory again, though
gets call, flicks wrist to open the phone and answer
Yeah, I never buy new phones on contract. I get last-year's flagship phones for under $200, outright, on Amazon π
barren hound
I haven't paid for a phone in 8 years. work does that for me
speaking of. i need to see if the new S21 Ultra is up on the portal
subtle pasture
This LG v35 I'm using now was $120 (brand new, in box), and was still so new that it got two major OS updates even though I'd already purchased it over a year into its lifecycle
Came with Android 8, got 9 and 10
Probably won't get 11, though
heavy ginkgo
If someone tries to make me drink kool aid im out
glossy inlet
i'm still on the 2XL because nothing has interested me. I'm technically dual sim...
I switched form P2XL to Pixel 4a and am extremely happy.
wet pilot
nice, that's what i was thinking. Wife is on a 3 that isn't doing well and i gotta figure something out for her too
glossy inlet
My wife also has a 3 and is frustrated. She'll probably move to either a 4a or 5 if it gets worse.
To me, the main difference between the 4a and the 5 is wireless charging. I bought a usb wireless charging pad that fits inside my case and it's working fine for me. No need to upgrade to the 5 now.
subtle pasture
+1 for wireless charging. Love that feature
Also slightly funny how many of my friends have phones with Qi charging who don't even realize it...
"Yo, do you have a charger I can borrow?"
"Yeah, but not with the right connector for your phone... wait... try the Qi charger on the kitchen counter"
da-ding!
subtle pasture
Yeah. There was like one generation where it was hard to find (metal backs were popular)
wet pilot
i think the p5 is the only one with a metal back that has wireless charging
subtle pasture
But then everyone went to glass (or plastic, or in some cases even wood/leather)
I distinctly remember LG releasing a phone with swappable plastic / leather / wood backs, that had Qi charging, while everyone else was using metal
Might have been the G4
Oh yeah, it was the G4. lol
clear ferry
I had wireless charging in 2010, it was great, I actually miss it
glossy inlet
clear ferry
Palm Pre 2 was a great phone, although not much more
subtle pasture
My first phone with wireless charging was my Nokia Lumia 920
heavy ginkgo
but i have to take my pop socket off my phone to charge it :/
subtle pasture
I still use the Nokia Qi charger that came with the 920. lol
clear ferry
I donated my palm wireless chargers to people with the 920 when it came out
heavy ginkgo
webos was pretty great when it came out
barren hound
i had a touchpad or two for a while when HP totally bombed them
subtle pasture
Yeah, it's on some smart TVs
barren hound
at least it's not Vista Sync (or whatever garbage GE used for a while)
clear ferry
I should download that Danish kids show with a guy with the world's longest penis
wet pilot
ford used whatever blackberry was for a bit
clear ferry
It looks fun
wet pilot
honda is just ancient android
barren hound
ford used MS Sync as well
clear ferry
barren hound
at least the ancient android in my pilot works with Android Auto. That's literally the only thing i need it for.
wet pilot
yeah
fathom prairie
trying to integrate smartthings ... any one have luck ?
barren hound
@fathom prairie -> probably #integrations-archived
fathom prairie
ill try there thx
barren hound
i wonder if the honda android used in infotainment would run the homeassistant app
cedar chasm
clear ferry
night zodiac
#755367578381058178 squirrel cam
night zodiac
these squirrels are thicc
night zodiac
oh shit, squirrel gang fights are starting
nvm, they didn't want no trouble right now
oh, they back
deft pewter
Is Bu trying to scare people off in hangout?
barren hound
snow and squirrels are scary, yes
kind forge
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/06/john-dillermand-denmark-launches-c...
I bet he doesnβt need wireless remotes to control his smarthome...
low harness
Some would argue if you do it's not "smart"
barren hound
Would you rather be smarthung or have a smarthome?
wise trout
Is here someone who would like to help me with installing? π
deft pewter
Read the topic and think about that question again.
night zodiac
I usually check my temp sensors or a weather service
barren hound
you're outside the standard operating parameters for the Human integration.
white radish
anyone delt with rasbpis much? im trying to have communicate with one through mqtt. and getting connection refused but cant find any firewall and npin command showed the port open and connecting
barren hound
read the topic
white radish
k
last cedar
scenic radish
deft pewter
https://tenor.com/view/the-big-lebowski-coen-brothers-joel-coen-ethan-coen-jeff-bridges-gif-14873466
tidal bronze
scenic radish
ffs
clever mortar
I have also seen directional network cables, for connecting your NAS to your smart speaker
scenic radish
i had a guy at best buy tell me how the $50 HDMI cable will provide a better picture than the $5 one. i said that's not how a digital signal works
deft pewter
Oh, I have low expectations. I'll just have to lower them even more.
fiery sorrel
i bought one like that when i was 12 ! though it was very fancy
clear ferry
scenic radish
lol wtf
deft pewter
That's just a CAT cable, right? wtf?
tidal bronze
4 used for $400 now that's a deal.
clear ferry
deft pewter
Prostupid.
barren hound
i had a guy at best buy tell me how the $50 HDMI cable will provide a better pic...
there are cases of more expensive ones being better, but it's usually stuff like active cables, fiber , etc
scenic radish
build quality could certainly differ too, but still
i wouldn't buy a more expensive cable unless i was doing a long run behind a wall or something heh
tidal bronze
Been saving up to buy this usb cable for months now.
https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lisa57ff-synergistic-research-galileo-sx-usb-cable-sets-a-new-bar-for-usb-cable-performance-digital
tidal bronze
Audiogon is a pretty interesting site. π
scenic radish
Make Offer
$5
night zodiac
lol, who the fuck is buying that
deft pewter
atx is
tidal bronze
Spend some time on that site you will be amazed. @night zodiac
deft pewter
To put in his box of junk in the garage.
clear ferry
deft pewter
Or to put in his junk. Who knows?
scenic radish
i'm sure his car is fine mono, damn
deft pewter
Yeah... his car...
tidal bronze
Speaker cables anyone?
https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lisa65h9-masterbuilt-signature-bi-wire-speaker-cable-3m-speaker
tidal bronze
Funny all that for a bi-wire π€£
blazing dune
how much gold can u buy for tha tmoney
deft pewter
About this much: #the-water-cooler message
night zodiac
https://squirrels.donger.in/ lol, by the time I completed this, they are all gone
night zodiac
siiick
night zodiac
I didn't think you had to open them
night zodiac
yee, I thought you just opened a website with your phone and connnected to it
clear ferry
clear ferry
well, you don't have to solder, you can tape the connectors to the pads
tidal bronze
tacit plover
you can flash these here https://github.com/pvvx/ATC_MiThermometer
night zodiac
I was just about to ping quad
tidal bronze
Pair and flash.
night zodiac
atx is making things up
I think he saw the USB to UART instructions for when you brick it
last owl
Anyone have a good recommendation for ceiling fan control?
night zodiac
girlfriend
tidal bronze
@night zodiac should be done in less than a minute
last owl
I got the Treatlife ones but can't flash tasmota via OTA updates.
night zodiac
quad, I don't have mine yet. atx was just talking about he had to solder them but I didn't think so
last owl
Thanks! I've had good experience getting sonoff to work
tidal bronze
@shy comet no write permissions on shield pro smb mount ?
shy comet
umm not sure lol i use kodi with mysql for all my local media consumption
night zodiac
I guess quad has to buy dsh a new one now. thems the rules
heavy ginkgo
ugh i dont want to disconnect them lol
luckily, i dont have to worry about solder , tape or glue. I just use the logic analyzer clips
shy comet
@tidal bronze checkout reddit and maybe reach out to hte dev...the dude is pretty responsive from what ive seen
scenic radish
@heavy ginkgo does tuya-convert not work with them? Worth a shot if you haven't tried already
vernal socket
quick poll, what is the current preferred install, rpi4, docker, vm? Any reason to pick one over the other?
barren hound
quick poll, what is the current preferred install, rpi4, docker, vm? Any reason ...
VM on a high available cluster
vernal socket
what about not SD card but a USB flash drive instead?
barren hound
be sure you have some sort of snapshot/backup schedule as well
clever mortar
Good news, USB flash drives are worse than SD cards π
vernal socket
yikes, so not an RPI
clever mortar
SD/USB thumb drive < eMMC < HDD/SSD
barren hound
you can do rpi4 with a SSD over USB3
clever mortar
Pi4 +SSD works fine
barren hound
but NUC > pi all day every day
clever mortar
Or old laptop
vernal socket
have had an instance running in docker to play, but thinking it is time to just load up a VM and get serious
clever mortar
Docker rocks
hushed basalt
Docker all the things
clever mortar
Except Docker
vernal socket
is docker better than VM then?
clever mortar
Generally speaking... 200% yes
A Docker container is a lightweight little thing
A VM isn't
vernal socket
generally yes, buut what about for home assistant
clever mortar
A VM is a bloated whale, compared to the Docker's bowl of petunias
Well, HA is HA, however you run it
vernal socket
yeah, love me some docker
clear ferry
vernal socket
OK, so maybe I spin up a new container and make it clean.
tidal bronze
@shy comet thank you.
clear ferry
docker > VM for home assistant, best regards from a VCP-DCV
blazing dune
i started repurposing an unused i7-6500u laptop for HA
its a bit overkill but nobody else needs the thing
clear ferry
It's a fine docker host and more
blazing dune
although makes sense to sell it off and buy something else
clear ferry
It has a built in ups
barren hound
a callback to the earlier discussion about audiogon, i found something worse: https://www.thecableco.com/optimism-emm-st-toslink.html
lyric panther
I tried the docker install, but ended up with the OS install for ease of use
night zodiac
sweet
blazing dune
I tried the docker install, but ended up with the OS install for ease of use
i've been the opposite for 2 years or so, I run containers for everyhing now. HA was the first docker, only had LXC stuff before
but LXC is more like VM light
subtle pasture
I have a VM for running docker containers, but I still opted to run HA separately
scenic radish
VM Liteβ’οΈ
lyric panther
lol, so many emojis
subtle pasture
I have more than enough resources to run an additional VM for HA. lol
lyric panther
Hell, i'm still trying to figure out how to use HA. Docker can wait a bit.
hushed basalt
Straya
night zodiac
I have no idea what i am looking at
sturdy jewel
hi
clever mortar
sturdy jewel
where can I find which integrations are problematic, security-wise?
sturdy jewel
i don't get it. it just says to update. I've received that notification 3 times
couple of emails, discord notifications
scenic radish
Also it's only some custom integrations (at least per the blog post)
sturdy jewel
which integrations?
it says
"certain custom integrations have security issues and could potentially leak sensitive information. "
which ones?
clever mortar
And that's it
Nobody is saying right now
There's no point in asking again and again π
night zodiac
If you run it and you get a warning in your logs, it is that one
deft pewter
If there was more information, it would be in that thread.
There's not, so stop asking
clever mortar
It'd be in the blog post anyway π
deft pewter
And now, it's time for the classic piano piece, Girls All The Bad Guys Want:
https://open.spotify.com/track/36x30CV8ISbiBoIYYTH3FO?si=69s1LoPvRzGDfow-BX3ysg
scenic radish
They're not saying which ones and what the specific vulnerability is because then people with malicious intent could potentially take advantage of it
night zodiac
lol, middle school music time
scenic radish
At least not until it's patched
night zodiac
oh, haha
well shit
plays
I got a part list together for a new door bell that can take mp3s. my blues clues mail time song is incoming
sturdy jewel
They're not saying which ones and what the specific vulnerability is because the...
thank you for providing an answer
that makes sense
btw, is there a mechanism for persons who have HA installed but are not registered on the foruns (or on this Discord server) to be notified of these urgent updates?
just curious
deft pewter
Yeah, watch the website.
sturdy jewel
hah
clever mortar
The blog has an RSS feed
odd kindle
There's also a "update" notification you can get right in HA
sturdy jewel
i have a friend like that but I called him
clever mortar
Well, they should subscribe to either the RSS feed or join Discord and sub to #announcements
sturdy jewel
I'll tell him to register on the community website that will ensure he receives the emails at least
odd kindle
I'm sure this have been discussed already but as far as I understand this isn't actually a direct problem with HA. So unless you're using 3rd party code you haven't read it should still all be good.
fiery sorrel
didn't they post on twitter or something ? i had someone that isn't here or on the forum that already knew when i read the annoncement
odd kindle
I got an email a little while ago
fiery sorrel
didn't, but that's nice
sturdy jewel
I'm sure this have been discussed already but as far as I understand this isn't ...
sorry, I don't know that. it says "certain things" which for me means nothing. I know for a fact that he has the Tuya integration and a few others. but to know if it's 1st, 2nd or 3rd party code is impossible
fiery sorrel
i haven't upgraded yet, and i am using custom component, but i'll do next morning.
sturdy jewel
yep, also got it on twitter
fiery sorrel
the fact that they don't specify which also help reduce the chance of an automated attack
clever mortar
This only applies to third party - custom - integrations. If they're using things listed on the HA site itself it doesn't apply
Tuya is a core integration - this does not apply
odd kindle
@clever mortar there's 3rd party Tuya plugins as well
clever mortar
Yeah, but if they're using https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/tuya then ... not so much
Hence my first statement there π
Also, the sky isn't falling. If it takes you a day or two to update I doubt the world will end...
I'd not be shocked if >80% of HA's userbase is months outdated
night zodiac
Anything that is loaded from custom_components. If you use HACS, installs go to custom_components as well. This is why they said you can change the name of the custom_components folder until you update.
sturdy jewel
i know, i'm really only preocupied with the users that install and have no mechanism to be called back for these more urgente security updates
odd kindle
From all I can understand it's not really a HA issue either. People pulling in 3rd party code is always a risk
tawny orchid
I try to stay up to date. just never install the .0 version
clever mortar
The thing is, there's been things like this before - this isn't the first
odd kindle
@sturdy jewel honestly, if you install 3rd party code and don't follow along you probably should rethink that.
wet pilot
HACS has its own blacklist for that reason
clever mortar
Many folks just don't update, ever. They'll always be outdated, and vulnerable 
Assuming you update HACS π
sturdy jewel
<@!483645029492064256> honestly, if you install 3rd party code and don't follow ...
but what's exactly third party code? I have the web+ssh add-on made by someone that required some protection flag to be turned off
is that 3rd party ?
odd kindle
I've updated to the latest version now AND moved out the two custom_components I'm using.
@sturdy jewel 3rd party code is anything that is being installed outside of the normal HA.
night zodiac
aight, this is zzz. can we talk shit or look at trash pandas
deft pewter
I love that you can finally scp from Windows.
Gonna make an effort to actually document/blog my projects but wanted to get a bunch of images from my PC to my server.
tawny orchid
aight, this is zzz. can we talk shit or look at trash pandas
or danger noodles
deft pewter
Danger noodles are creepy. Raccoons ftw.
heavy ginkgo
<@719588654913159190> does tuya-convert not work with them? Worth a shot if you ...
I assume since I just got them theyβll give the psk error, but I have to try first.
Just preparing myself lol
ivory haven
I'm sorry if this was previously answered or not (I tried looking above but I can't see it specifically). If you have a docker version of home assistant, you're not going to see the supervisor menu option, correct? Is there anything else we'd need to do to protect ourselves from this recent vulnerability?
deft pewter
Did you check the topic?
There are a ton of support channels. And this subject is getting rather oooooold.
wet pilot
vuln topic. this is fine. @ivory haven just update to latest and you'll be fine. If you're super tinfoil hat, rename the custom_components folder in your config dir (if it exists)
scenic radish
@heavy ginkgo probably, but you never know. i've gotten lucky before
thankfully those aren't difficult to serial flash if needed
last dirge
is it known since what version the vulnerability was introduced?
scenic radish
it has to do with some custom integrations
last dirge
yeah, I got that much
scenic radish
not a home assistant version
last dirge
but is it something that's always been a problem?
or was there a "door" opened in a version that wasn't made known until recently?
night zodiac
from the commit, the middleware function was entirely new so I imagine it has always beeen able to be done
last dirge
looks like I got rid of whatever custom stuff I had
so it doesn't matter
yay
laziness++
odd kindle
it's not a at all weird really, you pull in 3rd party code and give it access to your system and internet. It's not really a vulnerability imho
deft pewter
Is he even frisking them? π
clear ferry
There are no ghosts surrounding them atleast
deft pewter
I thought maybe he was using a wand but whatever that is in his right hand isn't big enough and there's nothing in his left hand.
atx is used to small things in his right hand.
deft pewter
Why would I block you?
last plaza
Inside joke π€£
deft pewter
π¦
last plaza
lol
deft pewter
I only have about 4 people blocked at the moment. You could probably guess half of them π
last plaza
Yup
night zodiac
π¦
bitter pawn
@clear ferry doesnt block because he's a glutton for punishment
bitter pawn
^
night zodiac
photoshopped
deft pewter
I've actually only blocked a single person
At least you unblocked me again.
clear ferry
storm summit
any news on the security thingy?
tidal bronze
@forest edge reminded me of you π
forest edge
@tidal bronze you have a stroke?
deft pewter
No, he always talks like that.
bitter pawn
idk i mean he could be in a perpetual stroke state?
scenic radish
barren hound
fun take: the POE Hat on the RPi is the easiest way to get a locking power connector for it.
forest edge
stroke effects more than just ability to speak. short term or memory loss all together is very common
he's obviously thinking about @dull chasm not me lol
tidal bronze
Pretty sure it's you.
amber bramble
where is vasiley anyway, haven't seen him around for a while
forest edge
fukkin Tediore lol
scenic radish
Vaseline
tidal bronze
@forest edge was thinking about grass, sand rabbits and you.
forest edge
astroturf, desert hare you mean
tidal bronze
No astroturf gotta keep the rabbits happy.
night zodiac
one thing at a time. he just learned that some people have humidifiers instead of dehumidifiers.
hushed basalt
@night zodiac Australian broadband. Street cable "joints"
forest edge
one thing at a time. he just learned that some people have humidifiers instead o...
this aimed at me? I have both in this house
night zodiac
no, quad. haha
night zodiac
he was questioning the purpose of a humidifier because he lives without winter
tidal bronze
Sinus and humidifiers π€
bitter pawn
the workday goes so much faster when listening to sonic the hedgehog 3 OST
night zodiac
badtelcotech, which side do you light
hushed basalt
I'd burn the whole thing down if it was up to me
hushed basalt
I believe you have my stapler
night zodiac
one time I ran into an australian that told me that ausi network was fine. the other 60 people I have asked about it have said it is dogshit
the one that said it was fine was the one trying to convince me the most though
hushed basalt
That Aussie is either lying or misinformed
forest edge
imagine Milton in goth makeup and clothing and you would be looking at @clear ferry
hushed basalt
Probably reads Murdoch press exclusively
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, as long as it's not contrary to mine
night zodiac
big if true
dull chasm
@clear ferry beyond my budget
@forest edge nope
@amber bramble I work goverment and this viris has had me working 70 hour weeks on average .....i am just so damn tired of the protest and viris details
forest edge
what do you mean nope, you always ask him about his hares
dull chasm
oh then yes
barren hound
ugh, cold wet.
night zodiac
only if you're outside
barren hound
i live in the swamp so it's hot and wet, not cold and wet
forest edge
what the hell am i looking at?
dull chasm
damn i live in swamp and its cold and wet @barren hound
forest edge
is that your driveway?
forest edge
oh, shared?
night zodiac
there is a fence between us and neighbbors
dull chasm
damn a little shorter than my driveway
barren hound
y'all have short driveways
night zodiac
https://share.busheezy.dev/3PSJgo.png this is from an hour ago
dull chasm
mines about 1k foot
forest edge
vasiley dosen't count the half hour swamp boat ride in between the main road and his "driveway"
night zodiac
I can hold like 5 cars without touching concrete. good enough for me
barren hound
my driveway also wraps behind my house, so there's that, too
dull chasm
well nobody comes knocking on door @forest edge
forest edge
lol
inland wigeon
one time I ran into an australian that told me that ausi network was fine. the o...
Probably like me, on FTTP with a decent ISP.
"I dunno what you mob all complaining about, I get a nice fast gigabit connection"
night zodiac
my ISP is really new and their stuff hooks straight into cogent annd I love it
tracert to a box in chicago which is 160 miles away
barren hound
nice. I like cogent a lot. no frills services, cheap as hell, good support.
hollow bridge
Whats up with the security advisory today?? Does anyone know what HACS modules were the source of the problem?
night zodiac
https://www.amazon.com/5G-Radiation-Blocker-Tested-Certified/dp/B08BG3V186 Can I use this with my blueberry pi?
night zodiac
there is a rabbit at my squirrel feeders
hushed basalt
You have to put the sticker on your forehead for it to work
night zodiac
will that affect my tinfoil hat?
hushed basalt
That's where everyone gets it wrong
Bill Gates is the one who needs to wear the tinfoil hat
To stop him using his brain chip to turn on everyone elses
toxic zodiac
Any recommendations for the best channel, to get advice to "back door' into your server if SSL has gone tits up?
night zodiac
wet pilot
probably to the channel for your install method
hushed basalt
Plug in keyboard and monitor
alpine spear
green inlet
Hmmmm....if only I had a 3D printer π€ ||as if I clucking had chickens||
hushed basalt
hushed basalt
Oofph my brain hurts
Learning aws-cdk, graphql(appsync), dynamodb and react auth simultaneously for the first time
wet pilot
graphql seems like a good idea until you actually have to use it
hushed basalt
Why's that
wet pilot
some of the behaviors are oddly anti-pattern
hushed basalt
The Naming conventions are pretty sloppy
wet pilot
that too
but yeah, ran in to some "fun" recently where a resource was double paged
but if you try to page through the sub resource you get errors everywhere because the thing is too dumb to process that properly
also, if you post a query and something behind graphQL fails but not graphQL itself you still get a 200 but then have to check for the errors
and it'll mangle the format of the response so have fun with that
is salty
hushed basalt
wet pilot
noice
but yeah, cool idea, not implemented well at all
also, beware your request limit setting on the server. Had some fun with the system rate-limiting itself because even though you're making one request to GQL the GQL layer might be making thousands of requests to the next level
night zodiac
I would write the worst SQL in the world if I started to use graphql
not that it is a problem with graphql, lol
wet pilot
yeah the syntax is hot garbage too
"what if we make it almost like json but not quite!"
night zodiac
one time I was tutoring a guy in JS and he started to try to convince me why I should be using graphql one day, lol
I was like
wet pilot
lol
night zodiac
He had barely been able to code two weeks prior and suddenly had an opinion on APIs and such
was super confusing
wet pilot
rest is still best in my mind
night zodiac
I love REST and never really switched away. I have just learned over and over how to write better REST apis
wet pilot
yup
night zodiac
I wrote my own clients most of the time I am writing the API so graphql doesn't help me a ton
I usually design my databases first and then implement the API around 'er.
like, db in full
not just what I think I need at the time
wet pilot
i tend to use flask + sqlalchemy to do both at once
night zodiac
I use objection.js
wet pilot
but i draw out my tables before i get started
night zodiac
I'm a JS boy though and you are python so only our client tech will probably overlap
night zodiac
nice. Vue.js is my home
wet pilot
only connection from the frontend to the backend is via the rest api
and they run in separate containers
night zodiac
I work with Nuxt.js quite a bit because I like it
with objection.js, it lets another library knex pretty much do all of the queries and then objection.js just does the ORM stuffs
wet pilot
we wrote our own connector for flask since we use couchbase
though we're debating writing a dialect for sqlalchemy and then open sourcing it
night zodiac
ahh, I try to use postgres or mysql for most things and only really use nosql if I don't think I will know the data structure in the future
even then, I might make a relation between the RDM and the nosql, lol
wet pilot
everything we do fits well in the document world
night zodiac
I pretty much always know my data structure so I can just stick to RDB and migrate if needed
lucky me
wet pilot
its great when that works
night zodiac
I use elasticsearch for our logging aspects
wet pilot
but we're storing a lot of json data so it didn't make sense to break things out
night zodiac
gotcha
I have been trying to think of a fun integration I need for HA for days but everything is already implemented that would motivate me
wet pilot
haha
hushed basalt
I used to use devcontainers but I'm just using wsl remote now
But for portable dev environments it's pretty sweet
To be honest package.json does a lot of the work for js environments
I've found js to be a lot less hassle than python for setting up the environment.
night zodiac
I'm using WSL remote at the moment and love it
hushed basalt
Make fun of node_modules all you want, but it works
hushed basalt
I'm using WSL remote at the moment and love it
Make sure your workspace is inside your linux filesystem and not /mnt/c
night zodiac
yeah, haha. I used wsl1 and have been using it nonstop since wsl2
hushed basalt
Wsl2 is great
Especially when I learnt to not use the windows filesystem in wsl remote
night zodiac
https://github.com/lextm/windowsterminal-shell here is a great shell script for windows terminal
hushed basalt
Which is shitty that it's the default behaviour
night zodiac
hrmm, I don't remember it being default behavior
hushed basalt
You know what shits me off. When i hit windowsKey and type terminal
wet pilot
the new term is pretty great
hushed basalt
50/50 chance it brings up cmd.exe
hushed basalt
Same but I like using the super key to launch things haha
Then I don't have to touch the mouse
night zodiac
fo sho
wet pilot
super + 3
hushed basalt
But I love things that have different outputs for identical inputs
wet pilot
would launch it for him
hushed basalt
Hmm. True
night zodiac
very nice. I didn't use that before but will now.
hushed basalt
I do like commands that are transportable to any computer though
That has it installed of course
night zodiac
that is why I want to do the devcontainer stuff
I want to have like the full env everywhere I go ezpz
hushed basalt
I found it a bit abrasive,
Having to rebuild the container and reload the window all the time
night zodiac
maybe I will save it for the project after next then
wet pilot
it can be but doesn't have to be
night zodiac
hrmm, I don't imagine I'll have to change the container much after it is done
wet pilot
depends on how it is configured. In most cases you only rebuild the last layer
hushed basalt
I just sync my vscode settings to gist and lean on .vscode settings
wet pilot
but you could also pre-build the container and host it on dockerhub
hushed basalt
Yeah it's just local build and I try and structure the layers,
wet pilot
i had to hack the python one because one of our required packages had some wonky requirements
night zodiac
I don't even go anywhere at the moment
not sure why I am worried about devcontainers for the projects only I work on
hushed basalt
I mean you could put your requirements outside the container, but then you run the risk of config drift
If you're not prudent
wet pilot
it was container base os issues
if you pick the python3 base image in vscode you get alpine and that package required py3.6 on deb buster
pita
hushed basalt
Yeah alpine is a false economy
hushed basalt
For a dev environment though, size isn't that important
wet pilot
meh, might as well keep your container close to the prod env. our product is containerized already
hushed basalt
I understand the reasoning behind that
But to be honest I haven't had huge benefit from that
I try and KISS for dev,
Then staging/prod is handled by CI and they can be in parity with each other with dispoable cloud environments
This mirrors my thoughts
wet pilot
i get that and i actually have everything locally for me. But getting that set up is a pita and some of our content devs are too scruby to be trusted
night zodiac
the barrel plug that came with this power supply was trash. It was super hot and everything else was cool to the touch. I bought another one off of amazon and nothing is warm at all. much bettah
scenic radish
Was there a short somewhere with the barrel plug?
Speaking of which, I let the magic smoke out of something yesterday. It was already dead before though so I guess it's now super dead
night zodiac
no, it was one of the ones where you screw in the wires
I bought some proper ones that don't have any screw pinch shit
night zodiac
lol, the new ones are much better. soldered and heat shrinked
clear ferry
Mmmm woke up to -18 on my temp gauge, that means -25 down by the road
night zodiac
I thought you checked voltage drops
clear ferry
Let me check
clear ferry
It is actually high now, because most people are sleeping
night zodiac
my UPS reports voltages in ints intead of floats and gets wild on teh graph
last cedar
Do you get more than 230V during the summer?
clear ferry
213v
last cedar
Oml