box quits working once I plug in two of the devices
#the-water-cooler
tame gate
Developer Tools>Events Tab>Listen to events lets you view mqtt topics doesn't it, or am I misremembering?
night zodiac
it is under mqtt's integration but no supports herez
tame gate
cheers, yeah thats seeing messages fine. I must be going daft
hearty depot
you ever tryed to fold a 1.5mx2m chroma key - thats mindf.
you ever tryed to fold a 1.5mx2m chroma key - thats mindf.
worn jasper
its so ridiculous that i use home assistant just to define controls because i never know how to build automations with them 😦 I have in my head what i want to do but when it comes to doing it i'm always stuck
light trout
Good thing #blueprints-archived was introduced then, now you can just import and reuse what other folks make 😄
shy comet
bathroom occupancy lighting....love it lol
deft pewter
Almost as good as the AI-driven autoflush
pallid path
Hi all, I am curios about your idea about one issue? Do you think that blueprints are licensable or not?
forest edge
@pallid path HA BPs? not a chance in hell
pallid path
@scenic radish I appreciate your answer 😛
@forest edge yes! and why? I thought that they are way different than configuration. 1 - they have the ability configure HA to work as a special way and they are bearing the characteristic of its author
yes they are useless without HA
scenic radish
I suppose you could sell them if that's what you're getting after but good luck finding a buyer 😄
forest edge
the issue you run into is having legal rights to sue etc people who share said BP's
pallid path
hahah no no I am not looking for a new and shiny business opportunity (am I? :P) just a hypothetical question @scenic radish
scenic radish
Ah gotcha
pallid path
@forest edge I am curious because if we accept BP's as a software (= so it is licensable) we need to add a license section to it but I can't be sure that is it a piece of software or just a non-licensable text file
forest edge
don't believe it is considered "software"
it falls under the same as automations whatever else people can share through various means
subtle pasture
I mean, nothing stops you from slapping a license in as comments within the file...
deft pewter
Blueprints are as much software as my grocery list is software.
subtle pasture
GPL, BSD, etc
I can (and have) slapped a license on a PowerShell script, which is also useless without Microsoft's runtime environment
Seems like the same thing to me 🤷♀️
deft pewter
Scripts are software. They only need the runtime to work.
forest edge
I mean, nothing stops you from slapping a license in as comments within the file...
but everything stops you from being able to act upon said entry in any legal manor lol
deft pewter
Blueprints need HA to work.
subtle pasture
@deft pewter Right, but that has no bearing on putting your blueprint behind a license
deft pewter
Trying to enforce a license for a blueprint would be like trying to enforce a license for my config. No-one cares.
There's no IP there.
Hell, there's no I, let alone P.
forest edge
powershell is not an open source project?
scenic radish
Insert see, no one cares meme here
subtle pasture
I could easily see someone making a collection of nice blueprints and assigning a license to them
subtle pasture
Like, if I'm going to share a blueprint, I want to be able to GPL it
pallid path
@deft pewter thanks for your contrib. So if script does not find any binaries which needed for work is it non-copyrightable too?
deft pewter
But putting a GPL on it is the same as saying 'do what you want with it', no?
subtle pasture
@deft pewter GPL requires attribution and sharing of any modifications made to the code
deft pewter
And I'm sure people always give attribution...
pallid path
Guys if nobody cares no one answers me 😛
subtle pasture
So you can't just rip it off, but your own name on it, and pretend it's yours
deft pewter
Gimme a minute to whack a GPL on this script I got that deletes all files in a folder.
forest edge
this is a dumb rabbit hole to dive down into lol
deft pewter
Really dumb...
pallid path
@subtle pasture the ha is not GPL hence bp's does not need to be gpl 😛
deft pewter
Something complex and original is IP.
scenic radish
No, we MUST argue about this.
subtle pasture
@forest edge Not really. If you store your blueprints on Github, you'll probably assign a license to the repository
deft pewter
Something basic like a blueprint (that depends on something complex someone else wrote) isn't IP 🤔
pallid path
YES YES @scenic radish 😄
hearty depot
@hushed basalt nope - we barly made it together
forest edge
@subtle pasture worthless license
subtle pasture
How so? I wrote something, I'm sharing it, and I'm sharing it with an agreement that requires X, Y, and Z. That's pretty standard...
forest edge
but x y z doesn't mean dick..
subtle pasture
Why not?
deft pewter
What exactly happens if someone 'breaches' a GPL? You get to sue because they 'didn't give you credit'?
forest edge
because you cannot legally enforce it
pallid path
@deft pewter I believe that being dependent or not dependent is not a requirement for an IP (at least in Europe)
subtle pasture
@deft pewter Probably small claims court, in this case
subtle pasture
@forest edge The GPL has been proven enforceable time and time again
forest edge
not in this situation
deft pewter
Or maybe if they apologise nicely, there's no penalty.
Anyway... I think we can all agree that putting any form of license on something that's public ain't gonna do squat to stop someone using it or even sharing it as their own.
And with something as generic as HA blueprints, your stuff ain't identifiable.
subtle pasture
At the very least, I'd want to assign the BSD Public License to anything I release, which is basically "do whatever you want, but attribution to all prior authors is required"
pallid path
or I can distribute this BP over my very famous (208 followers it's something :P) youtube channel and earn money from video and the owner can ask money from this video 😛
deft pewter
Give a month and there'll be dozens of similar posts.
hearty depot
i mean the menatl computing ;P
hushed basalt
If you youtube 'how to fold lastolite' you'll see a heap of vids
hearty depot
they didnt helped at all, made tacco, got stuck with penis
hushed basalt
You want the far end to come under towards you
pallid path
Give a month and there'll be dozens of similar posts.
I totally agree. I am not asking to add license or anything else. I am just curious about licenses and I want to learn about your ideas and it is friday night and I am in lockdown so...
deft pewter
If you care about serious answers, Google the types of license and the laws in your country.
If you ask in here, you'll just get a bunch of us telling you it's a futile idea.
No-one gives a crap if you have a license in your BP.
forest edge
copy paste.. delete
subtle pasture
I mean, the safe option is to include the license you want, and worry about enforcement later, because it takes zero effort to add a license 😛
deft pewter
"Here's this format meant for sharing but I'mma put a license on it to tell you how you can use it".
subtle pasture
But you can't add one to code you already released
pallid path
I have a degree in law in my country but thanks for your advice
deft pewter
I don't think anyone gives a crap what degrees you have either 🤷♂️
pallid path
yes 😛
forest edge
pallid path
so it is fun to speak with you instead of speak with anyone cares about degrees.
fun and more academic
deft pewter
Are you suggesting we're not academic? 🤔
snow canopy
pallid path
I don't give a crap how academic you are 😛
forest edge
ha bps needs it own database rather than just using links for the forums for keeping downloaded bp's updated
deft pewter
I wish I still had someone to practise club passing with.
Could never find a good partner and definitely no-one willing to play with fire.
pallid path
I am sorry my english is not good as you I mean I can learn much more from you then academic people.
so no offense
anyway I asked because in oracle vs google, Google claims that (very very reduced) headers are not copyrightable because they are worthless without actual code and it depends on actual software and Oracle said that there could be sophisticated solutions or scripts etc in headers which we can say that is copyrightable. I wonder that if its fits to BP's too
deft pewter
This is why I made the distinction between complex and simple solutions.
forest edge
placing "bluprint" in a automation yaml is not sophisticated code
deft pewter
Something complex is the product of someone's skill and experience. Something basic can be done by (and is likely to have already been done by) many people.
Just like you can't trademark commonly used phrases, why would a license be enforceable on something basic?
forest edge
did they succeed in trademarking the dance moves in Fortnite? I don't remember
in know the people who did those moves were trying to sue lol
deft pewter
Basically they tried to copyright and then immediately file suits.
They didn't have a copyright yet.
No basis for a suit 🤷♂️
pallid path
do you need to register a copyright in us?
deft pewter
Apparently
umbral agate
I think I'm about to piss a few people off by asking this.. but what do y'all prefer? WiFi, ZigBee or ZWave?
For me, it's WiFi.
- zwave is stupidly expensive, also there's less Sonoff / tuya / other cheapo AliExpress devices which support it.
- ZigBee is cheaper, but still not as readily available as WiFi
- WiFi devices are more often than not esp based. Wooo, esphome / tasmota!!
deft pewter
Zigbee here too... but take this to #hardware-archived
And take the time to read the topic in here.
pallid path
we have a battle ongoing here 😛
deft pewter
Not a witch unless they weigh the same as a duck 
What else floats?
Really small stones...?
Python is genius.
tidal bronze
@subtle pasture what's with all the fire?
forest edge
quad is always in the dark
tidal bronze
Twice a day most days. 😝
Monkey shoulder kinda Friday
@forest edge so did you try out frigate?
forest edge
not got around to it yet lol.. had a few things pop up so priorities
tidal bronze
Copy. Rolling that hay.
obsidian ibex
I think I'm about to piss a few people off by asking this.. but what do y'all pr...
There is no question, zigbee 3.0 is king
scenic radish
@umbral agate why not...all of them? I have devices that use all three protocols
obsidian ibex
Imagine a zigbee based esp32, why isn’t there one? Lol
Does the underscore in entity names annoy anyone else? It feels unclean. All dots would please my ocd.
obsidian ibex
sensor.temperature_outside
sensor.temperature.outside
The latter is so much easier to type lol
scenic radish
But...the period separates the domain and object ID
So domains could only be one word if it were all periods
Or they'd need to be CamelCase
obsidian ibex
No I know there’s logical reason for it, I’m wondering if I’m the only one it annoys, it’s an ocd thing
storm summit
is atx famous ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40X5EX6Us7c
hushed basalt
0.05% is too low for @clear ferry
Being sick with a toddler who isn't sick is not fun
clear ferry
clear ferry
Lol Cisco servers are now in the "rest of market" pools for servers
last cedar
@hushed basalt make your toddler sick too, then
last cedar
Sharing is caring
umbral agate
<@546996442015727654> why not...all of them? I have devices that use all three p...
Well.. yes.
But it's nice to keep most devices on the same protocol, just to simplify integration with home assistant
umbral agate
Imagine a zigbee based esp32, why isn’t there one? Lol
THIS EXACTLY. This is why I love WiFi, because so many products are ESP based, making them super easy to flash. I have a lot more control with custom firmware then I ever will with stock ZigBee firmware. With custom firmware I can turn the status light on the devices off, disable any onboard buttons it has if I want, or even (if it's a sensor) enable deep sleeping every five minutes.
last cedar
Wifi is what happens when someone is too lazy to put a socket onto things. And now we have wifi everything. Global warming is actually caused by all the microwaves, it has nothing to do with carbon dioxide.
clear ferry
forest edge
Racoon farts.. begin the culling
last cedar
I will get me one of those injections that australian cows get
No farts no problem
Nah, but like, if the device moves in an out of an area, wifi is fine. Also if there is no way to get a cable to it. Beyond a certain distance, microwave link may be an option. I only have wifi on phones and a single lab laptop atm
Unfortunately everyone and their racoon has wifi, super congested band where we live
forest edge
lora is probably norways "fiber" lol
marsh scaffold
you first @last cedar - farts are one of the great pleasures of life...
last cedar
@marsh scaffold especially in the bath
subtle pasture
last cedar
Slightly related tangent....
Would be fun with an air quality meter in the cats toilet, to trigger an automation to push a notification to clean it
I know a motion sensor is the real answer
Can probably pull it into my alarm system 😂
Can use a partition not used for fire or burglary
subtle pasture
@last cedar Air quality sensors actually work really well for this, as long as you get one that's sensitive to ammonia (Most are sensitive to a specific range of VOCs, so you'll need to check the specs)
subtle pasture
I've honestly considered setting up an air quality sensor near the catbox, because it would be able to detect the presence of ammonia long before the levels get high enough for a human to smell it
You could get a notification to clean the litterbox long before it becomes an awful nightmare
last cedar
@subtle pasture thanks for the tip, sounds like a good solution to be honest. I guess I need to plan in cabling for sensors to the cat boxes when I pull cable.
And to stuff like under dishwasher and washing machine, etc
last cedar
Yes, for the trash sensor
subtle pasture
@last cedar Or just use a zigbee air quality sensor. There are a few about
Or build your own on an ESP8266 module, using pretty much any air quality sensor you want
velvet horizonBOT
clear ferry
I wish it was -30 and snow 🤕
subtle pasture
Hmm... I have an ESP8266 module in the garage monitoring the garage door, occupancy, temperature, and humidity... I should add a VOC sensor
clear ferry
.c2f -30
velvet horizonBOT
subtle pasture
A garage is probably one of the best places for a VOC sensor, you know, with all the exhaust fumes...
clear ferry
That is why I open the gate before turning over the engine, and I'm only in the garage for 1 second after that anyway
subtle pasture
You could set an upper limit for VOCs that forces the garage door to open itself to vent the room. I'm actually kinda surprised that's not a safety feature on modern garage door openers...
last cedar
@subtle pasture I am a bit allergic to wireless if it doesn't need to be, but at the same time, I would love to get more into diy my own boards (soldering from a kit)
subtle pasture
@last cedar I get that, but ESP modules are fun to play with in-general (and cheap AF)
clear ferry
Yup
subtle pasture
You basically get a mini Arduino (with bult-in wifi) to play with
clear ferry
I bought a 35 sensor kit from AliExpress, need to start playing around with them
It even came in a plastic compartment box that I can reuse for other parts
This one
Only $18
With the box
subtle pasture
Niiice, time to break out the breadboard
turbid stirrup
Wow
subtle pasture
I will say, any time I wind up using an ESP module, I load it up with a ton of sensors
Because... well, why not?
Might as well improve my occupancy monitoring with another PIR sensor, or get more-granular temperature information from another room in the house, even if the original purpose of the device was to be an LED light strip controller 😂
hushed basalt
Garage vents are common in some areas
So when the door opens a powerful extractor fan runs to the outside on a timer
subtle pasture
heh, never had that in any home I've lived in here. California building codes are weird sometimes, though
hushed basalt
Car exhaust is worse when the catalytic converter is cold too
So your drive out is the worst by far
You also have the risk of garages underneath bedrooms in multistorey homes
subtle pasture
That's also when you're most-likely to have left your A/C on the defrost/defog setting, which uses outside air
Gotta love getting a nose-full of exhaust fumes first thing in the morning
hushed basalt
Just another reason to go full pedal to the metal for EVs
Some states here are bringing in EV tax per km
🤢
I've never seen an AC with a defrost setting
But we rarely get below freezing
subtle pasture
Still waiting for battery tech to improve (and for the resultant waste from the production and disposal of batteries to be a LOT cleaner)
Lifespan of the vehicle and batteries needs to be long enough to offset the carbon footprint of the production of the vehicle + the production of all of the replacement batteries it consumes over that lifespan, otherwise you're still net-positive on CO2 production (potentially more net-positive than just keeping an existing non-EV car on the road, burning gasoline)
last cedar
Kerosine right?
clear ferry
No idea what is in it
Just love the smell
But I grew up on an airport, so probably related
last cedar
You are a runway?!
Most seems to be kerosine after a quick google. It does smell good :)
hushed basalt
Biggest problem with ICE cars isn't the carbon imo
It's the particulate matter pollution
That's what kills people now,
deft pewter
Climate change is going to kill people too
It's probably already started.
I'm not disagreeing that pollution is already a known killer, just saying CO2 isn't less important than particulate matter.
hushed basalt
Getting fixated on CO2 can be dangerous
Because it can take peoples attention off non CO2 emissions
An emphasis on CO2 is therefore justified, but the near-exclusive attention to this single contributor to global warming has had the unintended consequence of directing attention away from the other GHGs, where some of the most cost-effective abatement options exist.
https://www.c2es.org/document/multi-gas-contributors-to-global-climate-change/
deft pewter
I don't think anyone's thinking about CO2 exclusively.
The switch away from ICE to EV is evidence of that.
In the UK, there's a lot of attention on NO2 levels in inner cities too.
scenic radish
@umbral agate ehh, but home assistant is designed to bring everything together regardless of protocol. I like WiFi for stuff like smart switches since they're so cheap and there are lots of options that can be flashed with Tasmota, but I like Zigbee for smart plugs and sensors (contact, motion, temperature, water leak, etc.) because of good battery life. I also prefer Zigbee for lighting because I don't want tons of extra WiFi clients and Philips Hue has some of the nicest hardware PWM I've ever seen
Oh I also like WiFi for smart plugs that control seasonal things like Christmas lights so that I don't mess with my Zigbee mesh when I put the decorations away
deft pewter
Just keep the smart plug in situ all year round and plug something else into them the rest of the year
last cedar
Yeah
scenic radish
I wouldn't have anything else to plug into them, otherwise I would
last cedar
Plug in ir lights instead
So you can't see them
All the moths will be like
"tediores ir light, brings all my friends friends to their yard, damn right, it's brighter than yours" etc
clear ferry
hushed basalt
IoT devices really don't like having their internet access firewalled
They squark so much when they can't call the mothership
Actual footage of my firewall logs
clear ferry
scenic radish
Depends on the device tbh
low harness
Who said that? But it's kind of annoying when the GH won't resolve my <secret>.se url for TTS.
low harness
Nothing a port 53 rerouting won't fix, but still.
deft pewter
LOL. Someone's actually set up http://prolap.se (SFW, just funny)
deft pewter
I'm going to try to say this in a way that isn't considered too political... but there are certain groups that support the US government's methods and handling of Corona. I think that's where the 'controversy' comes from.
Certain people's inability to accept science 🤷♂️
night zodiac
Say that to my face /s
clear ferry
Mmmmm prolapse
I'll keep my hemmoroids and fistulas thank you
Doing a 6minute 3d print is so loong to wait
deft pewter
Mini dildo?
deft pewter
Filament used: 2cm
last cedar
Anyone know of a wired outdoor motion sensor with a built in lux meter that gives data, not 230V relays?
Or is this one of those esp projects that @subtle pasture was recommending? :)
Thinking I could add a temp sensor and humidity sensor whilst I am at it, that makes it #diy-archived I think :)
last cedar
This is for flu though?
last cedar
I don't get why it should be different for anyone though, it should be mandatory, or not.
bitter pawn
^kinda the point of mandatory vaccines
either its so bad it has to be addressed or naw
last cedar
That large institutions open themselves to be attacked, by pulling stuff like this is amazing tbh
deft pewter
Institutions like the Brazilian government? 😄
They're going to pull welfare for anyone that doesn't accept a vaccine.
tidal bronze
@last cedar Diy PIR is not great for outdoor use. Better off using a commercial 12v PIR like DSC and use contact closure with ESP. You can add temp to the same housing as well. You need all the filters you can get with outdoor PIR use.
clear ferry
scenic radish
Ffs atx lmao
orchid rose
I fact checked your meme atx: In FY 2021 total US government spending on welfare — federal, state, and local — is “guesstimated” to be $1,137 billion According to wiki, the US ranks 22nd in public social spending and 2nd in total net spending
As always with the US, it's not that they don't spend money on stuff, just that they are extremely inefficient at it 🙂
clever mortar
That's what happens when "overheads" turn your $0.20 bandage into a $5,000 billable item...
night zodiac
You get what you pay for /s
last cedar
@tidal bronze I am aware of the limitations of outdoor PIR, but thank you for the idea. It is probably a LOT easier to modify an existing device. Question is, would a temp/ hygrometer be accurate in an enclosed PIR?
pure estuary
Hi guys, I can find out how to add user to home assistant (username password)
night zodiac
nice!
pure estuary
How?🧐
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
☝️
night zodiac
clever mortar
You've been here long enough to know better - ask in the right channel 😉
(hint, authentication is an integration)
night zodiac
lucky you, hints are rare in here. Memes are the language of the channel
clear ferry
Ffs atx lmao
U no liek?
night zodiac
clever mortar
I was there today, and managed to escape without buying a load of kit
night zodiac
I have to show up in person to get some of the motion sensors, apparently
but I don't live anywhere close. I am visiting my girl's parents during xmas so will try to stop by to get the motion sensors
They let you add to cart and right before checkout it says, "we can't ship this online"
mean people
clever mortar
clever mortar
Yeah, turned up in 1.15
clever mortar
Yeah, I quickly ditched Zigbee2MQTTassistant
night zodiac
Before this house, I only had a couple of devices so it wasn't too big of a deal. 'never tried assistant
I'm setting up these repeaters all over the place. I'm finally ditching belkin wemos. trash devices from before I knew anything about this stuffs
I normally keep everything cleared off of my desk but keeping this sim card poker on my desk has been very useful lately.
It would definitely disappear into a black hole if I tried to organize it somewhere
last cedar
@night zodiac why do those white boxes have sad faces?
night zodiac
US power defaults us to this state
last cedar
They look so sad :(
tidal bronze
Pretty happy with CC26X2R1 range with external antenna. No repeaters.
night zodiac
I have the zzh. not sure the range but wanted repeaters just in case.
scenic radish
Might as well
clear ferry
The murica plug, such feeble plugging
night zodiac
I'm going to deliberately place the repeaters and then everything else I will avoid buying things with repeaters built in so it doesn't get too wild
clear ferry
Schuko crew representing
clever mortar
ZZH gets me a stable signal across the entire house, just. CC2531 with antenna doesn't come close
last cedar
Just make sure you don't repeat your repeaters. It will be like owning a zigbee parrot
tidal bronze
Didn't want to use repeaters at all. I don't have any wall powered zigbee stuff. This thing is amazing.
night zodiac
nice
clear ferry
No Christmas for the Brits I see
clever mortar
Eh, we're fine up here
last cedar
Same, but using trådfri hub atm.
clever mortar
Not that we're bothering...
clear ferry
@last cedar disgusting ⛹️
last cedar
Santa won't be visiting anyway, because of corona
@clear ferry I have to sell more valves before I can afford a zzh
deft pewter
Satan is immune, he can visit anyone he wants to.
clear ferry
Buttvalves?
tidal bronze
Didn't want to use repeaters at all. I don't have any wall powered zigbee stuff. This thing is amazing.
night zodiac
buttholes are the ultimate valve
deft pewter
Eh, we're fine up here
Not so sure about that. I'm half expecting a u-turn over the 5 day grace period...
last cedar
👀
clever mortar
Not so sure about that. I'm half expecting a u-turn over the 5 day grace period....
Well, it's one day now
deft pewter
😮
clever mortar
Ms Sturgeon says all of the Scottish mainland will move to level four restrictions from 26 December.
That too
deft pewter
Hah... I missed that.
last cedar
Good think corona knows when 26th is and will not be dangerous until the 26th
deft pewter
I'm very tempted to still follow our usual traditions. We spend two nights at the in-laws so we can be there for the full day on Christmas.
last cedar
Same with these x people restrictions
deft pewter
After the year we've had, and given the limited extra contact that means, I think we'll still do the same. Fuck the rules.
last cedar
Corona is good with algebra, x+1=attack
deft pewter
We've deliberately avoided any contact with people for the last week and have no plans to even step foot in a shop before Christmas Day.
last cedar
Walk on your hands mono?
deft pewter
🤣
last cedar
200IQ move
deft pewter
I'm glad they've finally admitted London has it worse than most of the country.
night zodiac
I have seen mostly food delivery people. I have probably seen 10-15 people in the last 10 months, lol. Most of those are definitely door dash.
deft pewter
London got special treatment the whole time.
last cedar
Same with Stockholm here
deft pewter
It's annoying. The mayor of London keeps crying and bitching about the damage it'll do to his city's economy. It's like he's totally oblivious to the damage it's done to the rest of the country.
last cedar
They said a few months ago that other regions had done better if thry hadn't followed the advice tailored for Stockholm.
night zodiac
that sounds like the relationship between Chicago and Illinois, lol
deft pewter
speshul
It needed stricter measures from the outset. It's got a huge population, a huge number of which live in densely packed areas and use public transport.
I'm normally not one to worry... but the extra measures for this don't-worry-about-it-it's-just-a-new-strain strain are quite strong.
last cedar
Reminds me of the
"don't worry about corona, it is like the flu"
That was thrown around in the start
deft pewter
Yeah 🤦♂️
clear ferry
clever mortar
Well, it is
Like a blowtorch is like a match
deft pewter
But the thing with this new strain is that they didn't make a fuss about any of the other dozens of strains they've identified so far.
Why make a fuss about this one if they're saying it's no more harmful? Why the strict measures to contain it?
clear ferry
What would be interesting is if the new strain is not beaten by the newly injected vaccine
😂
last cedar
Yes
deft pewter
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
clear ferry
deft pewter
They haven't had opportunity to test the vaccines against the new strain and they're worried it may not be as effective.
clever mortar
I'm sure it'll be ... interesting
last cedar
I am glad I am not a risk group, so I can let everyone else be guinea pigs first.
clear ferry
I'm in every risk group
last cedar
Racoons are going to be the last to get vaccinated
clear ferry
Fat grumpy old fucker
deft pewter
I intend to spend most of my time hermitting in my house, just like the last 10 months.
last cedar
😂
deft pewter
Can't catch it if I don't go near people
night zodiac
deft pewter
I loved it when the streets were like that.
When they first told people not to go out for anything but exercise, I could've literally run up the motorways blindfolded.
clever mortar
Yeah, we do supply runs for the old folks, and the motorways in the first few weeks were great to drive on
deft pewter
I'm royally pissed off about this news 😐
Brother in-law lives alone in another city, so sister in-law was going to drive and collect him. We now get the choice of bending the rules or leaving him out of our Christmas plans completely.
clever mortar
Yeah, they should have called this ages ago
deft pewter
Yup.
And I know the government don't really give a crap about our grocery shopping... but households have now either bought in too much because they were going to have guests or not bought in enough because they planned to go somewhere else.
Food waste on one side, panic buying on the other 🤷♂️
clever mortar
Thankfully, we've been putting off buying the food for Christmas dinner 🤣
We'd already decided ages ago however that we weren't doing anything big - no get together, just the household
deft pewter
We'd normally do finger food on Boxing Day, so we've got a freezer full of M&S party food at the moment. I know it'll last... but it'll take forever for 2 of us to eat 😄
You have kids living with you, right?
clever mortar
Aye, and (when permitted) neighbour's kids that also raid our food supply
deft pewter
I suppose at least it's handy that you have more than one person to talk to on a regular basis. Also that you still get a 'family' Christmas.
clever mortar
Well, we talk with the family all the time - face to face is just a little limited
deft pewter
Me and the missus have done pretty well at not getting on each other's nerves this year, which I'm honestly surprised at 🤣 But Christmas was going to be our one chance to unwind and finally spend some quality time with the rest of her family.
I won't see mine at all, they live abroad.
clever mortar
😦
Ironically we actually see both sets of parents more this year since we're doing most of their food shopping 🤣
deft pewter
(I don't miss them, it's okay... 😄 )
Her parents are still pretty mobile, so they haven't needed any support from us. Unfortunately, that means that the only excuse we've had to go round to each other's places is to drop off birthday presents on the doorstep and sing Happy Birthday from halfway down the driveway...
So yeah, 3 driveway visits this year and one meal back when households were allowed to mix.
clever mortar
Both ours are "somewhat older", and all have health issues, so we're doing our best to keep them in
If that means we have to take more risks, I'm good with that
deft pewter
Definitely. And I'm sure you'd hate to see them starve 🤣
clever mortar
Well, it would get the inheritance sooner 🤔
night zodiac
I may have overdone the zigbee routers
oh well, if I have poor signal, I'll blame the Swedish
deft pewter
Just blame the trash panda.
night zodiac
yay, I updated and broke. lol
last cedar
@deft pewter excuse me!
deft pewter
I will not
night zodiac
lol
night zodiac
I avoided clicking the button until I had some free time
midnight adder
hello everyone
last cedar
Hello!
midnight adder
i have some trouble with installing homeassistant. after install latest version nothing not working
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
AKA - please read the channel topic 😉
tough vault
@midnight adder hope you saved some snapshots amigo
velvet horizonBOT
midnight adder
<@456226577798135808> hope you saved some snapshots amigo
not working recovery also already try
tough vault
Fuck it then, just install RetroPi and wash your hands of the whole mess.
or try one of the installation method chanels 🙂
Anyways, so how's everybody's second wave going?
last cedar
2nd wave? Corona?
orchid rose
Down 📉
Christmas will likely give a little spike but looking quite good overall in Finland
tough vault
Seven blessings upon you.
orchid rose
There's finally some light at the end of the tunnel so I hope people are not too down
tough vault
This is true, so far I guess the vaccines aren't making people sick either, they just need to start pumping it out
tough vault
True - Most vaccines showed all their adverse side effects in the first two months of testing
tough vault
in all likelihood by the time it becomes available to "regular people" most side effects will be characterized
worldly imp
i just installed a new homeassistant server, and i noticed the Supervisor tab is gone on the left side panel, is this a thing from some update or something?
tough vault
True, but if it doesn't work in the people getting it, more people won't get it
like the Alpha Romeo -
last cedar
There is enough "there are so many strains" for them to wing it atm
I am sure they know what they are doing, but the whole idea of being first is about making money
But anyway, not for me to worry, got about 7 months to wait by the looks of it
tough vault
they got shit-loads of cash to do this job, which is one of the reasons they said it was able to go so quickly
Anyway, that's the light at the end of the tunnel
I'll take it
last cedar
Hopefully yes
tough vault
I've been at home with my two kids since March, I love them, but man......
orchid rose
One of them was not-for-profit at least do it's not all for money
orchid rose
Pfizer maybe?
tough vault
LOL
yeah maybe 😛
I guess they figured the vaccine production would be a loss-leader for Viagra
last cedar
Astrazenica was non profit for developing countries it looked like
tough vault
Rigor Mortis doesn't count as an erection
frozen fulcrum
if I want to propose an addition to an existing addon, do I open a thing on github or use the feature request forum?
obsidian ibex
Yes then buy the dev a really nice Christmas present too
orchid rose
yeah that's the one Michelle. This was the article I read: https://www.lse.co.uk/news/update-1-astrazeneca-must-prove-it-wont-profit-from-covid-19-vaccine-msf-gyk3f4sjt1ebegq.html
frozen fulcrum
wut
tough vault
ooooh.... that's a DNA vaccine....
orchid rose
The Oxford one. EU has ordered 300 million of them
tough vault
that shit's scary compared to mRNA
But it'll probably work fine
and has easier storage requirements
last cedar
Will it fit on an sd card?
orchid rose
it's also cheap if the numbers I found the other day are correct: Oxford/AstraZeneca: 1,78 € (EU has reserved 300 million doses) Johnson & Johnson: 8,50 $ (6,94 €, EU has reserved 200 million doses) Sanofi/GSK: 7,56 € (EU has reserved 300 million doses) CureVac: 10 € (EU has reserved 225 million doses) Pfizer/BioNTech: 12 € (EU has reserved 200 million doses) Moderna: 18 $ (14,7 €, EU has reserved 80 million doses)
not that any of these are expensive for EU, but could be a thing for poorer countries
tough vault
I wonder if the prices include cold-chain transport costs?
last cedar
Pfizer were apparently going to make 13bn dollars from the vaccine :/
tough vault
Yeah, it seems expensive until you realize how much you miss GOOD Chinese food. Fuck, do I miss Chinese food...
Dim-Sum drone delivery
maybe they could steam the Cha Sui Bao while in flight in special payload bays
Everything has gone completely to shit in Los Angeles. Every hospital bed is full, people are dying in the waiting rooms
orchid rose
oof
tough vault
We were expecting a big spike in march, but it never happened. The doctors said it was like waiting in the train station for a load of explosives to arrive, but then the train never came in
But now it's here! I'm predicting we'll start to slow down by February, after every asshole who breaks lockdown for christmas and new years gets sick and gets their families sick.
OK everybody, stay safe, stay home, stay positive
deft pewter
But now it's here! I'm predicting we'll start to slow down by February, after ev...
As someone willing to 'break lockdown', your ire is a little misguided here.
Not everyone that wants to see their family is going to spread anything. I've been under self-imposed isolation so that I can safely see my family.
tidal bronze
Anyone using generic thermostat with Google assistant?
clear ferry
Not everyone that wants to see their family is going to spread anything. I've be...
I do that all year, but preferably to not see family 😂
deft pewter
Yeah, I hate people too. But this time, we've even switched to getting groceries delivered.
clear ferry
I have considered that, but I'm too picky
Don't want someone else to pick my groceries
clever mortar
For some things I don't mind, for fresh food though, I do
Can make the difference between something that "expires" tomorrow, or in 6 days...
deft pewter
I'd normally prefer to get it myself and just mutter obscenities at anyone getting too close or not wearing a mask.
We just wanted to make sure it's safe to see family.
clever mortar
I got quite shirty with somebody the other day who felt it was appropriate to stand right behind me in the queue, trying to push forwards.
deft pewter
You mean you tutted loudly?
clever mortar
In the typically sarcastic loud manner of really, is that what you think two meters is?
unreal canyon
Couldn't start ha after update to 0.58, hater running supervisor repair on the command line, all was well
clever mortar
I nearly continued with did you not realise your husband has been lying to you - but stopped in time
To 0.58 ?
unreal canyon
*After running supervisor repair
clever mortar
Please read the channel topic 😉
unreal canyon
Where
velvet horizonBOT
unreal canyon
Thanks @clever mortar
cedar chasm
Just dropped by to proclaim my love for chilling at home with a smart led bulb, music and hue essentials Disco program while poking around in my Smart home setup
Good times, Saturday night of kings
last cedar
And racoons
cedar chasm
Do you know any Racoons?
Do you think they would be interested in some disco-action?
night zodiac
My girlfriend was watching a video of a guy feeding raccoons a whole tub of hot dogs, yesterday
she sat in silence and watched it for like 30 minutes
subtle pasture
Lol, "indoor balcony world" is now a VRChat world. Coopertom strikes again:
https://twitter.com/thecoopertom/status/1338420602303115267
Apparently the original photo that was circulating around the internet is from a Virginia Tech dormitory
last cedar
@night zodiac she sounds like a keeper
tropic hedge
I went to schedule a paid covid test by this for-profit place for $145. Halfway through the application it tells you the $145 is for swabbing you, and the lab will charge some other unspecified amount they'll tell you after the test. So I nope out. That was an hour ago or so. I just got an email from a random lady who was filling out the same application and all of my info appeared on her page. WTF
I'm asking the lady if she managed to get a screenshot. I filled in all my health details before I backed out. Guess who might have a HIPAA lawsuit?!
clever mortar
So, lawyer gets 90%, you get 10%, less tax 🤔
tropic hedge
fine. by. me.
I'll take the lawyer on 100% contingency and just let him go to town, because screw those money gouging testers
deft pewter
Ah, yes. America, where the national sport is suing people.
tropic hedge
a hastily prepared web app dumping people's health info to strangers seems like a reasonable reason to sue someone
deft pewter
Meh. Sounds like an honest mistake.
deft pewter
The litigious culture you guys have got going on just reeks of trying to earn a quick buck.
clever mortar
I'm no coder, and I'm pretty sure I couldn't screw it up that badly
tropic hedge
I just said I'd do it for 100% contigency, I have no desire to make money off of it, it's the principle
clever mortar
I'm with the leak my private data, I hit you in the pocket group myself
tropic hedge
if it were a non-profit or a governmental agency I'd send them an email pointing out the issue and let it go. These people are gouging people for tests
deft pewter
I'm with the _leak my private data, I hit you in the pocket_ group myself
Except we have the ICO for that.
clever mortar
Yeah.... well...
At least they're finally actually doing some enforcement
Historically they're a little much like the parent going oh, don't do that darling
deft pewter
Pics or it didn't happen
clear ferry
The camera on this Samsung is a let down
My last three generations of Huawei have had 3x better cameras
low harness
Why does your tree have a hula hoop?
low harness
In civilized countries...
hushed basalt
The real question is, why doesn't your tree have a hula hoop
low harness
Fair enough
clear ferry
$145?
tropic hedge
$145 for a swab, wtf
yah, I've just been out of work for 6 weeks now and my work would (probably) refund me the cost
hushed basalt
Medical costs tied to employment
umbral agate
So. I'm now at a point where I really don't fucking know what else to smartify.
- Smart plugs. Check.
- Smart light switches. Check
- Smart light bulbs (for standing lights / bedside light). Check.
- DIY smart thermostat. Check. It's currently just a relay, but I'm working on some OpenTherm jazz.
- smart speakers (Google home minis)
- smart garage door (work in progress)
- motioneye raspi CCTV system (work in progress)
Any ideas or what else to waste money on smartify?
hushed basalt
What could go wrong
wild scarab
Strontjes
tropic hedge
So. I'm now at a point where I really don't fucking know what else to smartify.
...
Bed sensor, Frigate for human detection instead of motioneye, window shades, window & door sensors (both for alarm and informational), outside weather station
towel warmer (they're great)
ocean mirage
thats like trying to think of a solution before a problem
umbral agate
Bed sensor, Frigate for human detection instead of motioneye, window shades, win...
human detection
Meh. Not that important to me.
Window shades aren't a bad idea actually. Windows and door sensors are pretty unnecessary. Live in a small bungalow.
Outside weather station. Maybe. Although weather forecast is pretty accurate
tropic hedge
as soon as I get a nice weather station I'm setting up an automation to tell me to open the windows if the temp outside more comfortable than the inside temp, if its not raining and if the windows aren't already open
calm crow
Wondering how smart can i make my light bulbs i feel Motion sensors are pretty much the 'must-have'
so they can turn off if no detection
last plaza
You don’t need a weather station. You can do it with weather component.
Simpsons did it already 😝
umbral agate
^ exactly
deft pewter
Wondering how smart can i make my light bulbs i feel Motion sensors are pretty m...
So they can turn off when you sit still for too long? 🤔
calm crow
haha
deft pewter
Bluetooth is better for presence.
tropic hedge
I just want a weather station because they look neat 8(
calm crow
But who really sits still for 2hours!
deft pewter
Motion sensors are for... motion.
umbral agate
How long can you sit your stupid ass still for lmao
clear ferry
Patterns are better for detection
calm crow
😂
calm crow
haha
umbral agate
Bluetooth is better for presence.
This. I'm using monitor.
deft pewter
Yeah... base everything on behaviour, not gadgets.
clear ferry
Motion detection I only use for image processing outdoors and for my office actually
umbral agate
But who really sits still for 2hours!
I can't even sit still for two whole minutes 🤣
clear ferry
Should do something better for my office
calm crow
I find it mad people can sit still for so long
calm crow
yeah just general chit-chat
Oh okay what would you like to talk about?
Excited for christmas?
deft pewter
Like... who's gonna tell BoJo to feck off and see their families anyway? 😄
umbral agate
Oh okay what would you like to talk about?
How about... Geckos
clear ferry
I'm looking forward to fixing my rectal fistula @deft pewter
calm crow
Geckos are nice
deft pewter
I don't wanna know where you put your fist.
umbral agate
👀
calm crow
is that a home assistant joke?
calm crow
nice gif
deft pewter
Mouth open. You can see his lower incisors too.
calm crow
yeah but looks like the tongue is flickering over his lower teeth
clear ferry
subtle pasture
❤️ Jojo
calm crow
Speaking of anime really wanna get into 3d printing
calm crow
haha can only imagine the anime grunts
deft pewter
atx makes some pretty interesting grunts.
Other noises too.
Check his OF for more 😉
hushed basalt
tame granite
Not the MEMES!
west glen
which would be a good channel to ask a question about powering Christmas lights 🙂
I have a set of lights that are 240v powered into a box that converts to 31V DC and then to a control box that converts to 31V AC
240VAC --> 31V DC --> 31VAC
if my multimeter is to be believed
yet the lights are LED's
I'm wondering if mu multi-meter is confused with the output
storm summit
never heard of AC LEDs but 🤷♂️
green inlet
And I have never heard of converting AC to DC, just to convert it back to AC. You would just step down the AC
scenic radish
Maybe rube goldberg designed it
obsidian ibex
pics or it never happened
green inlet
Meter......🤔
west glen
Multimeter
obsidian ibex
possibly a confused Farsonic
ashen kayak
Traeger ....is there an integration
storm stump
Something has gone terribly wrong with my HA setup. I had it running just fine but after attempting to update the OS & Core last night it stopped responding. I tried rebooting the Pi it's running on and nothing. Now when I hook the Pi up to a monitor and reboot it it gets to a point where it's asking for a "homeassistant login:". I've tried using my owner login and it just keeps telling me it's the wrong login. I'm not sure what to do next. Any one have any ideas?
last kiln
Yeah I've never been able to use an actual account on that prompt
I think admin: works.
storm stump
I tried that but I'm not sure what the password would be. It's not mine.
last kiln
admin:admin?
last kiln
I've only really been using it for like two months. So don't trust anything I say. They can probably help you better in the dedicated support channels.
storm stump
If I type root it doesn't ask for a password and skips directly to a warning that reads:
"[WARN] Home Assistant CLI is not running! Jump into emergency console..."
last kiln
That's good information
storm stump
I don't see a dedicated support channel. Can you point me to the right one? I'm happy to go there.
last kiln
"ha start" maybe? If not, try to make a backup of your config folder and just re-install everything.
scenic radish
last kiln
storm stump
Ah, ok
scenic radish
Not other
last kiln
OK, refer to my earlier message.
storm stump
Ok, I will switch to that one. Thanks for the help!
last kiln
This is the room where they tell you to go to a different room.
storm stump
🙂 I figured that might happen. Just wasn't sure where to go so I appreciate the direction.
I've moved my question over there 🙂
last kiln
I don't think I've ever had a question answered on this discord server. So back it up with the forums.
storm stump
😦 Ok
last kiln
I have been told to go to a different room about a half-dozen times, though.
storm stump
Ha ha. That sounds like 80% of the IRC of old, so not that surprising. But every once in a while you'd find a place where people were actually helping one another and the internet felt magical.
last kiln
Oh yeah, I mean root not admin
storm stump
But there has always been a lot of RTFM you N00b. Even after learning how to program and writing ones own manuals 🙂
last kiln
Have you tried RTFM?
storm stump
I have 🙂
last kiln
PEBCAK?
storm stump
Probably
I've never found gatekeeping technical information to be particularly appealing though. It undermines what I love best about open systems.
scenic radish
This is the room where they tell you to go to a different room.
This channel is for non-support talk. Having multiple channels for specific topics is helpful for something like home assistant where support people might need could vary wildly
There is of course always the chance that you won't find the answer to your question here or on the forum, but this is also free support so that shouldn't be too surprising
You can also look at the topic for each channel to determine where it's best to ask your question
last kiln
I can go into a chatroom that hasn't had any activity for six months and ask a question and there will be someone replying in thirty seconds "we need to keep this channel open for other topics"
scenic radish
What?
last kiln
Like aljaben said, old as time.
I just thought it's funny.
Here's a question: Are there any commercial products that use MQTT out of the box?
subtle pasture
Also lots of consumer ones, but they run MQTT over zigbee rather than over wifi 😉
last kiln
Oh, is that how that works? I talked to a Zigbee engineer at a show once and he said zwave has the protocols built-in, and zigbee requires you to implement your own software layer. Or something like that.
This was like in 2014
subtle pasture
I mean, you don't have to use MQTT on a zigbee network, but it lends itself well to the wireless protocol with its small packet/header sizes
last kiln
Is that a young John Pinette?
last cedar
Time to see if I can get my borrowed optiplex windows 10 working. Can't check my ssd firmware or health via USB. Thanks Intel :)
deft pewter
I love waking up to 5 screens of bitching about the support on this server 🤨
last cedar
People who don't read that lounge is only for racoon talk?
deft pewter
My favourite bit is 'I regularly ask in the wrong channel and don't know why I don't get answers'
last cedar
😂
clever mortar
I dunno
I don't see a dedicated support channel
That's a good one
last cedar
Actually it is accurate. There isn't "a" dedicated support channel. There are like 42 different ones. Depending what you need support with.
clever mortar
And even a catch-all 😄
orchid rose
there's a group of channels called "support" though
last cedar
Yes absolutely
umbral agate
What software do y'all recommend for turning a pi zero into a CCTV camera? Motion? Or something else?
Also, does motioneye support mdns? I can't be asked to give all my cameras static IPs
deft pewter
mDNS 🤢
DHCP reservations every time.
And I think Frigate is usually recommended... but you probably want to head over to #cameras-archived , as this is bound to turn into a support discussion.
hushed basalt
@umbral agate you just need to use fully qualified domain names
And have your router add dhcp leases to it's dns service
Add a domain to your router, then it's just hostname.domain.tld
deft pewter
Joke's on you. The server farms AWS and GCP are based on Pi Zeros.
Hundreds and hundreds of Pi Zeros.
hushed basalt
Dozens of them
clear ferry
I knew it
low harness
*sigh Things were so much simpler when the kids were still afraid of the robot vacuum and avoided it.
deft pewter
Have they started riding it around the house yet?
orchid rose
my robot vacuum seems to be slowly dying after two years... 😢
It hardly has power to push itself forward. Wouldn't be able to have kids riding on it
deft pewter
Are you not able to replace the battery?
orchid rose
I haven't figured out what the issue is yet, but battery sounds plausible
clear ferry
Just put a 12v car battery on top
orchid rose
True
clear ferry
orchid rose
looks like I could just get a replacement battery from Ali for fairly cheap. Might as well try I guess
deft pewter
Yeah, new battery seems sensible if you're seeing low power after 2 years of power cycles.
orchid rose
it could be a sensor issue as well, it just gets stuck on walls sometimes
but I think it's because it doesn't have the power to push the collision sensor all the way
last cedar
@clear ferry a my racoon is broken channel sounds very useful
clear ferry
Sounds like an interesting euphemism
last cedar
👀
clear ferry
Ya, went to da doktah, he telled me my racoon be broken
clear ferry
🦝
last cedar
heavy breathing
last cedar
If anyone is feeling generous, a racoon would really make my Christmas complete. Just sayin'
I can pay postage
I should make a racoon import company tbh
clear ferry
A 3d printed racoon you say
You never realize how much realestate 4k is before you get a 4k monitor
deft pewter
4k is nuts for a desktop. Next time I upgrade my TV, I'll go 4k but I don't see the need for a PC.
3440x1440 is plenty for everything I do.
clear ferry
I have run out of space a long time ago
So gonna find one more 4k monitor
I got it used for $150 so
clever mortar
My current laptop is 4K... I hadn't realised how much nicer 4K is
My work laptop's mere HD screen is now ruined for me
scenic radish
Literally unusable
clear ferry
Actually
yes
I just wish I could run 3x4k off this
but apparently 2x4k is the limit
scenic radish
What does lumber have to do with this?
clear ferry
@last cedar https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3879819
last cedar
Hahaha that is amazing!!!
orchid rose
The new nvidia DLSS looks so good that 4k gaming might not be too far off even for budget builds, so 4k monitors are definitely the near future for most people
For non-gaming applications I wish they made 16:10 4k that wasn't super expensive
Actually there doesn't seem to be any 16:10 higher than 2560x
last cedar
27" 1440p 16:9 is a good PPI imo
scenic radish
Why is there no chest hair emoji
last cedar
Omg lord no
clear ferry
There probably is on proper discord servers 😉
last cedar
We just have weird 4 letter word acronymn starting with b ending with m stuff for santa, jesus etc
Nothing to do with chest hair
Sorry
last cedar
@clear ferry ok to PM?
clear ferry
Yeah, you can PM tediore whenever you want
last cedar
😂
clear ferry
last cedar
"woops, misclicked"
last cedar
I am far less elegant
clear ferry
I love how stuff pops off a glass bed of the 3d printer, compared to having to peel it from a magnetic bed
where is this DM @last cedar ?
last cedar
Difficult to make an emoji of, you will agree?
clear ferry
well, I could try
🎅 🍆 ⚾ 👩 🍆 🍆 🍆 🍆 🍆 🔥 🏏 🧦
something like that ?
@scenic radish will bring out his ✝️
last cedar
That is very accurate
clear ferry
I'm usually quite precise
last cedar
Maybe I should send the pic to Tediore so they can check the likeness of the emoji?
last cedar
That pic could change his whole outlook on life
clear ferry
🤣
just wait till he comes back, he'll be intrigued and disgusted and will not want it
green inlet
What is this BDSM Santa nonsense 🤣
Brings a whole new meaning to “I saw mommy kissing Santa Claus”
scenic radish
🎅 🍆 ⚾ 👩 🍆 🍆 🍆 🍆 🍆 🔥 🏏 🧦
The socks stay on during sex
clear ferry
@last cedar I know @green inlet is interested, it is right up his (dark dusty pirate covered) alley
last cedar
Send it to them :)
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
- Re-read #rules ;)
- Re-read the channel topic
That said, battery and Z-Wave/Zigbee is no big deal, you'll get months to years out of most sensors
scenic radish
Yeah a hue dimmer switch I've had in service for almost 4 years is at 24% battery lol
Motion sensor in service for about three years, 54%
clever mortar
My five year old door sensor is only down to 50% - pretty much bang on target for the 10 year lifespan
#hardware-archived is where to ask, though without the wall of text 😉
long quiver
Is there any difference in using the HACS Shelly integration and the HA Shelly integration?
clever mortar
Please read the channel topic 😉
You want to ask that in #integrations-archived - not here
obsidian ibex
Do we have any port masters in here? I’m trying to find out of it’s safe to run Ha on a port under 1000? I keep asking in #330990055533576204 but no luck lol
clever mortar
Well, it's not specific to the OS, and not on topic for this channel
It'd be a question for #integrations-archived
obsidian ibex
Well, it's not specific to the OS, and not on topic for this channel
Old articles indicate HA needs run as root for ports under 1024, surely that’s not an integration question?
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
It ain't a question for here either 😉
And yes, but no, but yes, but no
HA on Docker can use any port - because Docker manages the ports
obsidian ibex
Yeah that’s obvious, why do you think I specifically said I already tried asking in the OS channel lol
I don’t use Docker
clever mortar
Sure you do
obsidian ibex
Not directly
clever mortar
But, once more there's no support in this channel
obsidian ibex
Ok can you tell me the relevant channel for port questions on HA OS? Integrations really doesn’t seem relevant.
clever mortar
obsidian ibex
Wasnt so difficult
deft pewter
Nor is reading topics.
clever mortar
It's even mentioned in the channel topic here
obsidian ibex
I know you guys get a lot of people spamming support stuff in here but you don’t need to be so awkward with us who still make some effort to do it correctly
Channel topics don’t pop on mobile
clever mortar
obsidian ibex
Topics only appear when you swipe over to the user list on iOS, which isn’t often
clever mortar
And I summoned the bot to post it in channel 😉
obsidian ibex
You were also unnecessarily awkward.
clever mortar
I directed you somewhere, you argued it wasn't on topic there
So yes, I may have got deliberately awkward
obsidian ibex
Ok Tinkerer, you have a nice Sunday.
clever mortar
I am 😉
clear ferry
Running on port 1000, that sounds like a horrible way to circumvent poor networks
night zodiac
1025, ez
clever mortar
I like port zero
night zodiac
what are ports, DNZ for life
That doesn't sound right
what is it called, lol
DMZ, whoops
clear ferry
Who needs a firewall, just run your router in bridge mode and watch the fireworks
night zodiac
hell yeah
scenic radish
i just only ever use a single device wired directly to the modem
night zodiac
That used to be my gamer mode when I was a kid
scenic radish
bit of a pain always moving the patch cable between devices
night zodiac
I couldn't remember the name of "DMZ" but I remembered WRT54G to look up what it is called
scenic radish
do you have BOFA enabled too?
obsidian ibex
What you need is multiple phone sockets throughout the house and a belt strap for your 56.6k dialup modem.
night zodiac
BOFA deez nuts in your LAN
scenic radish
dammit lol
night zodiac
Tediore, search BOFA in the discord logs
scenic radish
no
night zodiac
scenic radish
ugh
night zodiac
clear ferry
Bofh > bofa
scenic radish
do you like wendy's atx?
clear ferry
Never been to Wendy's actually
Or... Maybe I was in new Zealand in 96
I don't remember fully
scenic radish
Wendy's nuts slap you in the face?
night zodiac
Tediore had a lot of time to come up with the back half
clear ferry
scenic radish
|| spoken like a true badmin ||
storm summit
yea. lets not mention frenck. dont want him sniffing around 🙂
scenic radish
clear ferry
forest edge
boris to speak on new strain of covid currently spreading through UK
some leaks online suggest this one of norwegian design so they are expect it to talk alot of shit but not amount to much of anything
last cedar
Like most political stuff then
deft pewter
The government's New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group (Nervtag) estimates the variant could increase the R number by between 0.4 and 0.9
I guess the chances of keeping it under 1.0 are pretty slim now then...
clever mortar
desert iris
Full AMD build complete 🙌
deft pewter
Needs more lights.
clever mortar
Also needs non-reflective glass
desert iris
It's not that immersive irl, camera just sucks
deft pewter
Personally, I've never understood RGB or the need to put a desktop tower on top of a desk and waste all that space.
orchid rose
okay boomer
clever mortar
I much prefer to make my PC silent, than use it to light the room
deft pewter
Tinkerer's a boomer. I'm technically a millennial... though I'd hate to actually be grouped with them.
orchid rose
millennials are boomers - I'm one of them
deft pewter
Boomers are boomers.
And even then, labelling everyone is just tribalism and needs to stop.
orchid rose
no u
clever mortar
Actually, I'm GenX 😉
deft pewter
There's no way you're under 60... 😮
orchid rose
But kidding aside, it's weird how RGB and glass side panels made a comeback after 20 years
clever mortar
I have been playing with tech since pre-teen years
scenic radish
Do what you like, fsck the h8rs @desert iris
clear ferry
Did someone say haters
deft pewter
Hater number one has arrived