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@forest edge It's an LG v35, factory Android 10 ROM
Not running anything 3rd party / rooted
yea but it's not vanilla android if it's lg
It's also possible the wifi chipset in the LG v35 doesn't support that feature
dunno, don't see how tink's pixels don't have that feature at all
All those budget LG devices... ๐คข
Maybe Leapo's right. Could just be the chipsets. MAC used to be hardcoded, right?
The v35 was flagship...
I was kidding about budget ๐
i had android 9 when pixel 3 came out, and now sitting on 11
so it's possible it might be an android 10 thing and not 9
i don't remember
Not sure this phone will get Android 11. LG tends to do two major OS updates, and that's it
Could well be chipset related in a strange way, even if that makes no sense
UK privacy crack down lol
@clever mortar If the wifi chipset doesn't support MAC address spoofing, that'd do it
That'd be a pretty crappy chipset ๐
A lot of chipsets have fixed MAC addresses ๐คทโโ๏ธ
See previous statement ๐
I mean, come on, wired chipsets from ... 25 years ago supported that, and many of the first gen WiFi supported that
Wired chipsets from 25 years ago? I wouldn't call that a common feature in 1995...
Hell, having a NIC wasn't a common feature in 1995
got my 3com 905b!
Speak for your own experience ๐
I was working with wired networking in the late 80s
and vampire taps too probably
Ayup
twinax, etc
Also, that feature going missing is more likely as time goes on, because shit starts getting built down to a price
You'll find plenty of Realtek NICs where the MAC is locked from between 1995 and 2020
Hey, they take up a GIANT chunk of the PC NIC chipset market
Well, at least one part of the market
If you want to talk about common features, you can't not include Realtek
I'll stay with Intel and Broadcom thanks
realtek and intel are the only two you really see in all premades these days in the US
I want reliable, performant, networking
I mean, same, but that's because I want BSD compatibility
I rarely want my NIC's MAC address to change
dunno what happened to broadcom.. don't see them anymore lol
broadcom was all over in early 2000's
They're still there, in the server space anyway
yeah they're huge in oem space
I didn't realize how important intel networking was when I bought my first thinkpad 6 years ago, ended up buying a replacement intel module to replace the realtek one, suddenly reliably wifi and bluetooth actually worked
Intel has made some shit NICs as well, but they have a better track record
The Intel 82579 gigabit ethernet chipset is a total pile of garbage
My last motherboard had that. Wound up upgrading to a PCIe 1x Realtek gigabit NIC
itel had it's own quirks with laptop nics
Realtek ๐คข
got a lenovo z85 where the intell wirless nic is pure trash
@clear ferry Yeah, you know the intel NIC is terrible when a Realtek replacement blows it away...
Yes, but I only deal in enterprise NICs, so I'm blessed for the most part ๐คฃ
The most I could push through the Intel 82579 in iperf was about 300 mbps, with tons of jitter / variable latency
The replacement Realtek NIC did 980 mbps (so, still a little low, but far closer to 1gbps) with minimal jitter
I figured this out while trying to get a Steam Link to work. I figured the Steam Link was just a pile of garbage... nope... Intel NIC was to blame...
The 82599 based ones have been good for the most part, unless you plug in an active DAC it doesn't like
Then the card vanishes randomly until you power cycle
what in the actual fuck is this MS meet now garbage
I love they put this crap in windows with no way to remove it
here have some garbage on us.. your stuck with it
_ just skip this version if you don't agree_
Hi there - where do I ask for help with getting google_translate tts -> google home working. My homeassistant isn't even creating mp3 files.
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@prisma salmon , unless you are on beta, google tts is likely broken
And I didnโt tell you that in the lounge
Uh oh... reading the comments now... they're planning on replacing the existing integration with this new one. That's going to drop support for a number of Aruba WAPs that don't support the API...
Like, mine is new enough that it supports the Instant API, so I'm alright
But one generation older and I'd be out of luck.
I think that is going to change.
The existing integration will be updated or both can coexist
Until the new integration can do SSH
HA just kicked life into my dogshit wifi plugs that've been collecting dust for years
I guess they always collect dust when you think about it
Something tuya based?
Lol
@obsidian ibex buy dust repellant wifi plugs next time. The simple trick that dust companies don't want you to know.
where can I find ideas for automations and integrations people already use that I might like?
@frozen fulcrum there is a cookbook on the website. should really scour through that. https://www.home-assistant.io/cookbook/
@peak cloud can you share the plex movie update push method?
i've been thinking about it all day :3
Google must hate OLEDs and being power efficient
I haven't written it yet, that was just a test. But I have everything in place to do so, just gotta write the automation for it.
All of Chromecasts behaviour wants to burn in static images and leave TVs running indefinitely
What you'll need:
- Notifications for Fire TV (app on Fire TV), or Notifications for Android TV (app on Android TV)
- Ombi or Radarr (for pushing)
the screensaver cycles so burn in is not like you are making it out to be
or just change inputs..
@frozen fulcrum Basically just setup a webhook automation and point Radarr/Ombi to it, then parse the payload within the automation and use the notify service to send it to Fire TV.
Do modern screens even suffer from burn in now?
OLEDs absolutely
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What sort of question is that
Think of the tens millions of chromecasts out tyere
Every time a user casts a youtube video, it'll switch to that input
and?
sounds like karma if they leave it on lol
No automatic standby? ๐คข
You're talking about nuclear power stations worth of power savings when manufacturers change default behaviour
My tv switches itself off for all the other apps
But chromecast keeps itself hot
what world do you live in?
Ans there's no way to change it
If it just turned off it's hdmi the tv would take care of itself
I've had a chromcast, the very first one they came out with plugged into the same tv since this whole time.. no issuies at all
The world where things like regulations on standby power consumption exist for a good reason
Unless you're google then you can just do what you want
you are talking about a specific use case device plugged into another device not necessarily designed for the purpose of being a digital photo album
if some idiot decided to change to that input then walk away leaving it on, they deserve what happens
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When the most common behaviour is for devices screens to turn off, people aren't idiots for expecting the same from yet another stick.
it's not the stick, it's the tv
why make it the sticks responsibilty?
Because the stick is the thing keeping the signal alive.
hell it was 35 bucks
it was designed to be a background photo display
why would it turn off
when not in use
You can't set it to not be a photo album
It's advertised as a streaming device, not a photo album.
thus you change inputs when not in use..
Photo album sounds like 'broken screensaver' to me.
yea well it was on the vgery first one they ever made
Do you really think out of the 10+ billion tvs out there in the world, the majority of them are turned off responsibly?
who knows maybe idiots leaving it on and getting screen burn in's is why tv's are so cheap now.. be thankful
TVs range from cheap to very expensive
Can the Chromecast wake a TV that's on standby?
Yep
through hdmi
And it can then keep it on indefinitely, yes?
Yep
mine dosen't
So it's possible that through no action of the user, it could wake it, keep it on, and cause screen burn? ๐ฎ
Yep
But we're still claiming the users are idiots? Riiiiight.
It's poor design, however you try to spin it.
It would stay on forever
you are using "if it can do this" then it must be bad
If you go on vacation for 2 months and don't switch off at the wall, and a random glitch turns it on
It'll stay on forever
Hell I think even power cycle will turn it on
Let me check
Lol that's not a thing anymore
You can't run a chromecast off a sketchy 500ma tv usb
Yeah, been a while since I've had a stick that runs off USB power. Most Fire TV generations need mains power.
not entirly sure what mine outputs but the tv is like 2006 lol
Heh, some of them will attempt to run off of HDMI power, if the HDMI port provides enough
so your refusal to utilize or purchase an adequate tv to get lazy ass features off a 35 buck device is somehow bad design lol
My chromecast has a 1A power supply
It's not about features
But data usb2 ports are limited to 500ma by specification
this is the first i heard someone bring this up as if common sense cannot be be blamed lol
Usb 3.0 is 900ma irrc
Strictly speaking, USB 2.0 ports are limited to 100mA until negotiation takes place, then 500mA after
my chromcast runs off the tv usb port just fine and has all this time
hell i go roku running off the tv usb port
Anyway it's not really relevant, as being plugged into usb could still turn itself on and stay on forever
Still all comes down to the fact that stick can keep the screen on forever.
could also ransomware your pc i suppose as well
plugs Chromecast into HDMI port, it powers up with no USB connection at all
All google has to do is push an update
Gotta love when the HDMI port provides more than the 50 mA in the HDMI specification...
No media playing, turn off hdmi in 15 minutes
google would laugh at this convo
Then you're talking about an enormous amount of power saved globally
It doesn't matter if I as an individual turn my tv off or not
It's the collective behaviour that changes things
err ..whats the best alternative to plex?
Plex
your first mistake was thinking they care about such a thing on a practically throw away device
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everything, plex is trash
Don't listen to him, he's wrong about everything.
@forest edge whats your top recommendation?
Sheep
just use kodi
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@storm summit Plex is pretty hard to replace as a backend. You can run Kodi with the official Plex plugin to use Kodi as your frontend media player for Plex.
Google should care since they are happy to brag about how green their DCs are
I'm just trying to find better ways to play 4k content ...if any
What's the actual problem you're having with Plex bbrendon
You should be able to play it fine
What issues are you having with 4k content?
technically once you buy the device it's the user's responsibility to save power lol
No it's not
i just got a 4k tv and realized i can't share 4k content because of transcoding.
It's regulated
how not
That's what regulations are for
must be some au thing
and i haven't yet figured out what 4k encoding i need
@storm summit Well, if the TV can't play the format natively, then transcoding is going to be required... Plex does have the option to (offline) transcode and save alternative versions so that real-time transcoding isn't required later
Takes up some space, though
We need someone in this channel that knows about transcoding and media formats. ๐ค
Know anyone, Leapo?
lol
there isn't any
h.265 allll the shit
@subtle pasture how do i figure out what my tv/speakers support ?
yea. i saw that was listed as a common solution.
what about ember? is that still an alternative?
Hold up, going into a meeting with my boss. I'm still technically at work ๐
i never used it but read alot like it
Basically plex can near enough output anything
But your clients decide what they can support
@forest edge Changing players isn't going to help if the TV can't decode the codec. lol
I've been using Plex + Fire TV stick for a long time and don't remember any trouble with live transcoding.
@subtle pasture meant as backend
Ah
kodi as frontend = always
Samsung aren't known for their great software tbh
I'd just search the plex forums for the best device to suit your needs
Changing backends also isn't going to help if the server doesn't have the horsepower to transcode
Transcoding is something you want to avoid as much as possible
@subtle pasture same is said with plex.. whats your point? lol
I think the two solutions here are "let Plex's "alternate versions" feature handle it (it'll create a pre-transcoded copy that's ready to direct-play on the TV), or beef up the server ๐
Plus if you get a device with great 4k upscaling
yea don't transcode.. it's for wieners
You can just stick to 1080p content for 90% of the quality
I don't bother with 4k anymore I don't notice the difference over upscaled 1080
if you want to transcode stuff, get netflix
Well non real time conversion will always be far superior to real time transcoding
So Netflix etc will always have an advantage there
you know if everything you rip is mp4 you will likely be able to play it on most crap these days natively lol
mp4 has nothing to do with the codec...
mp4 is just the container, it can contain pretty much any audio/video stream
don't get atmos lol
You can plop an h.265 video with FLAC audio into an MP4 and it won't direct-play on anything
FLAC is lossless audio...
Fooly Cooly
FLAC competes directly with WMA and AAC lossless formats
the part that cracks me up is people trying to get premo results while going cheapo routes
I mean, in theory, you can have a cheap NAS and a cheap TV, but your endpoints better all be the latest-and-greatest (new Nvidia shield is a good option) so they can direct-play everything...
there is no reason to even need plex or kodi for as long as you put the work into converting everything what can play on what you need it to
aside from fancy ui's and what not
hell my samsung plays all kinds of shit natively with it's own built in media library organizer etc
not that i would use it.. just saying
Personally, I'm looking at tossing a GTX 1660 into my Plex server for real-time transcoding. lol
It has that shiny new NVENC encoding unit with all the new quality enhancements ๐
I really wish Nvidia would release a lower-end card with that NVENC unit onboard...
why not a 3090 lol
Because it has the same encoding unit as a 1660
So no point if all it's going to do is video transcoding
I've used my plex box as music library for a few years now, only recently started using it for movies too lol.
3rd gen intel quicksync is honestly dreadful, thinking of getting a 1050 for transcoding
A 1050 will work for h.264, but not h.265
Anything using the newer codec will fall right back to CPU transcoding
Also, the picture quality will be better with a 1660, as it supports more codec features
looks like i need content in this format. hmm.
Oof, the TV can't even handle DTS-HD without transcoding?
Usually TVs have, at the very least, a decent set of audio codecs...
HDR10 HEVC (h.265) I can understand, that's very new...
is the great thing about the shield that it will direct play almost anytihng ?
then why not a 1060? lol
1060 has the same issue as the 1050. Older NVENC unit
The GTX 1660 is based on the same GPU as the RTX 20 series, with raytracing disabled.
The GTX 10 series doesn't support h.265 encoding, and the quality of its h.264 encoding is inferior to the GTX16 / RTX20 / RTX30 series.
Hang on, there's a table with all the NVENC versions in it...
it does support h265
The 10 series?
someone online says delete this file : /usr/lib/plexmediaserver/Resources/Profiles/Samsung SmartTV.xml
hahah. sounds like fun
@forest edge Encode or decode? lol
They support decoding more formats than they support encoding
both
if the card has a nvenc engine it can do everything the newer ones can
which is why i am curious where this "inferior" statement came from lol
inferior cause it's older i guess?
Inferior because it produces poorer picture quality
where do you see this
Turing GPUs also ship with an enhanced NVENC encoder unit that adds support for H.265 (HEVC) 8K encode at 30 fps. The new NVENC encoder provides up to 25% bitrate savings for HEVC and up to 15% bitrate savings for H.264.
It's in the whitepaper man...
i just did a bunch of looking crapm up cause i plan to use mine for camera feeds and not once ran across this stuff your saying lol
thats 8k
So the whitepaper must be wrong.
Literally linked the whitepaper for the architecture from Nvidia's site, and quoted it...
I can only do so much ๐คทโโ๏ธ
ok so you need 8k?
Leapo - an old adage comes to mind here. Something about being brought down to their level and beaten with experience ๐คฃ
Also:
Turingโs new NVDEC decoder has been updated to support decoding of HEVC 4:4:4 8/10/12-bit video streams, and it also supports VP9 10/12-bit HDR similar to Pascal GP102/107/108 and Volta GV100 GPUs
So it can also decode more formats than the previous-gen GPUs
Which means you won't be stuck with CPU decode + GPU encode on more formats ๐
So, are all you plex fan boys running on the shield pro? I donโt understand the nvidia shield. Is it just like and Apple TV or roku or any of the other media players
@forest edge I am surprised. How come you are seeing all this HQ video on CRT 21"?
how much camera feeds you encoding? if it's 4 or less you can probably get away with using the cpu, if you don't mind larger filesizes
Camera? Just movies.
@forest edge You missed the part about the bitrate savings... that means same quality with less bitrate, or higher quality at the same bitrate. That's regardless of 8k resolutions.
@tidal bronze as a audiophilia you should respect quality
pd - Fire TV stick here. Cheap and cheerful, no issues with streaming 1080p around the house. No 4k TV yet, so haven't tried doing 4k from Plex.
@subtle pasture glad the written nis enough for you cause every review shows no diffrence lol
@forest edge I do, really, I do.
You run plex on a fire stick?
Plex Media Server is on my PC, Fire Stick is the client.
@forest edge Link to a review that shows no difference in video quality?
I guess I need to figure out plex. I thought it was just like video storage
youtube it.. as i said.. i just spent a bunch fo time looking at this crap cause i plan to use mine for my cameras lol
Part of it is storage. But it does DLNA and stuff to make it easy to serve up content to other devices.
And it transcodes... which is what this idiotic conversation is about ๐
I dug up a goddamn whitepaper
no, purchase based ona flyer
@forest edge time to show the pudding ๐
There's no pudding ๐คทโโ๏ธ
So plex on a nvidia shield would be a good thing?
Leapo found good pudding.
leapo found a flyer
Shield as a client, sure. You'd still run Plex Media Server on a real machine.
if i had photoshop installed on this pc i'd make you another lol
Lol
Aight, lost cause, got it...
Auh...ok, I got excited when I saw the nvidia shield pro had plex
Strictly speaking, the Shield supports being a Plex Media Server
@subtle pasture if it makes you feel any better i would go with a 1660 over a 1060 just cause it's newer regardless lol
But most people don't run it that way
what plex clients do you guys use?
I'm probably the only one using a potato here lol... Celeron 1007u (elementary linux, plex media player)
but i have a 1060 and don't plan to buy another card for my cameras so i dug into this crap
even tried to use my old 750ti lol
What cameras?
@subtle pasture , why not?
all my cheapos lol
Oh I thought you are doing a wildlife documentary or something along those lines. Now it all makes sense.
A little while ago, Sonoma was ridiculing people for buying cheap...
i got a wildlife documentary here for ya
Sheep, barn, gig internet, doesnโt count as sex trafficking
I know hou do buddy @forest edge
incorrect. i ridiculed people for complaining about cheap stuff features lol
Thanks Nvidia, that's not confusing at all...
been meaning to ask how those charges went with you
Some editions of the 1650 have the 7th gen NVENC, some don't...
Lmao....
The 1660 is the first card where ALL editions have 7th gen.
He is the sniper of comedy
that nvenc shit has been scattered around since it was first invented
My lawyers advised me not to discuss on discord ๐คฃ
good call.. you might excite @dull chasm
Guess no pudding after all. ๐
@tidal bronze seaweed pudding?
You tell me ๐
your state is basically it's own planet.. noone can begind to understand the crap you people eat
You wanna come visit our planet anytime soon ๐ค
I hear it's back on fire lol
Yep saw yesterday on TV and some of my friends got evacuated too. Always something.
something is trying to exterminate you californias.. some higher power me thinks
Higher than this ?๐คฃ
it's messed up for sure.. it's like back to back drama over there
pandemic, fire, laws, fire, pandemic, power outages, fire
You forgot kelp
just waiting for california to try and separate from the united states like texas threatned that one time lol
@forest edge don't worry I will personally make sure all your cheap Chinese gadgets will make it through long breach ๐
@tidal bronze surprising less and less stuff filters through california these days
no apparently the chinese been gobbling up restate in texas and nevada
maybe nothing left to buy in california?
Shenzhen to TX ๐ค ๐ฏ
you really need to watch the news or buy a newspaper once in awhile lol
your bitcoin is gonna belly up and you won't even know why
Dang it gotta check that.....yep 18,770 we alright. ๐
What player ?
plex
On ?
a potato
plex on samsung tizen 2020
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any others @delicate viper ?
I feel like Iโm missing out on some great BTC deals
Who do I need to message about receiving bitcoin DM spam from a member of this server?
oh lol
i just did the exact same thing
purge the scammers
maybe they need to up the verification for joining this server
Discord just needs to give the option to disable messaging without adding as a server option.
thanks @midnight adder just banned that spammer
fairly certain that is a thing
It's for members only. You need to disable it client side.
Discord needs to add an option to disable DMs unless a friend request is sent.
Yeah.
Screenshot please.
@hardy grotto Can you please provide a screenshot of the bitcoin PM from KOKE I Team Astro#0439?
i heard @clear ferry was inviting these bitcoins into this discord..
@rotund field Taken care of, thank you for the report!
Thanks
@clear ferry You gotta lay off inviting these scammers to the server! I know they're your buddies and all, but we don't like 'em 'round here in these parts!
What you like round your parts is up to you I guess, but we don't like it round these parts
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Hey, I'm not kink shaming....I'm just saying don't bring that kink 'round hurr.
I've actually been kink shamed in real life many times. ๐ฆ
And by close friends, too.
I like to sniff random stuff though, to be quite honest.
New PCBs remind me of "China" for some reason.
I should probably not be here right now. ๐
You should be here more often
But why?
My girlfriend is pissed off at me right now because I've spent the last few days hyper-focused on HA. ๐ฆ
So I should focus on HA, but not HA? ๐คท
HA discord != HA
So I should focus on HA Discord!

And here I was thinking I should focus on "Her Ass" instead of "Home Automation." 
I would use an appropriate emoji, but we are locked in a facist dictatorship, so here take a gif
@peak cloud defo need to sort your priorities ๐
@last cedar She has been busy with work the past few days, so I decided to spend my time working on my install. I thought I was picking the best time to work on this stuff, but apparently I was completely wrong.
You clearly were completely wrong ๐
I'm always wrong. Go figure. ๐คฆ
Even when automating, I'm wrong:
2020-12-05 01:40:39 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.input_select] Invalid option: Please refresh devices... (possible options: aqara_cube, aqara_vibration, main_bathroom_motion, upstairs_bathroom_bulb_1, upstairs_bathroom_bulb_2, upstairs_bathroom_bulb_3)
Yes
Finally! No warnings in the log!!
Still getting kernal panics from your gf?
Nope, she "went to sleep" a little while ago.
Always.
I would have been super happy, and helped, just for reference ๐
Ty much, I'll take care of it!
@peak cloud
@hardy grotto On it.
Done-ski.
Thank you! Seems like they're hitting hard tonight. ๐ฆ
I think I'll save my feather razor blades for last
Appears they are mentioned as samurai blades
@bitternorwegians
Did someone say garbage
That's nice, gas stations have started offering alpr for automatic payment when filling gas
Yes
Sweet!
Even better if you're stealing a car.
Fill it up for free knowing that the owners will pay.
Atleast we are allowed to fill our own gas
Unlike some US States
Or did they fix that a few years ago
I've only rented in Florida and you could fill your own tank there.
I couldn't imagine having to wait for someone to come out and fill my car. I know how to do it myself, thanks.
There was a state where people were shocked they had changed the laws and had to fill their own gas, noone had done that for 50 years or so
Has no idea how
Insert nozzle, squeeze trigger. It's not rocket science ๐คทโโ๏ธ
You say that, I still see people struggle to boot from USB
Or wash their hands after exiting the bathrooms
To be fair, they should wash their hands before they exit bathrooms...
Wut?
There is no sink in the same room as the WC
I've never been anywhere where the sinks were in room.
You don't leave a WC area, go through a public area, and find another place to wash.
Are you just saying there's no sink in each stall? That's normal.
If having a flimsy partition means it's another room, I'm going to have to start saying I'm leaving my showerroom to get back to my backroom ๐คฃ
Every door is a new room, right?
Yaaaaaaas
I got two doors into my garage. Now I have two garages! ๐
They both have identical shit in though. Weird ๐ค
Stop buying double up because of your ridiculous OCD
Haha. Even when we had the Great Toilet Paper Shortage, we didn't stock up much.
Made sure we had enough tinned stuff in case we couldn't shop for a week or two. None of that prepper bullshit.
We never stock up, except for canned goods that we buy in Sweden for half the price
There was never any shortage here
Thought that was a US thing only
Sounds like you have fewer idiots.
I'm not gonna argue with that
Nah, UK had panic buyers too. There was maybe a month where the TP aisle at stores was empty ๐คฃ
For the most part
They had to enforce limits on items, like... not allowed more than 3 packets of pasta in the same visit.
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For ages, you couldn't find flour because everyone decided they were going to bake all their own shit and teach their little princesses how to bake cupcakes 7 days a week.
Are Brits in general as bad as muricans to cook at home?
Like... eggs, meat, veg were all okay. But all of a sudden everyone wanted to be Mary Berry.
Hmm. We don't eat out as much as Americans. I think a big part of that culture in America is that dining out is relatively cheap compared to groceries.
In the UK, groceries are cheap. I can buy a week's worth of supplies for about the same as a half-decent 3-course meal. I wouldn't eat out more than once a week.
Yeah, we dine out perhaps, 5 times a year
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Once a week is about my average. Or was...
Now we try to support some of our favourite restaurants by having a weekly takeaway instead ๐
Yeah, I don't know anyone who does more than once every three weeks tbh
Most are at best once a month or less
For me and the wife, it's just a chance to get out the house and try something different.
Our last restaurant meal was Thai. I can't cook decent Thai food ๐
Aye, we love going out when travelling, but makes no sense from an economic perspective here
Travelling is different. That's the perfect excuse to eat out every night ๐
And morning... and lunch...
Yes
Even when we stayed in a fully-equipped townhouse on vacation, we ate out more than we cooked.
A meal out for two people here is easily ยฃ60
But you like to remind us how much more you're paid there ๐
Gotta keep the low wages down
Justified by bad tipping
Appears servers were upped to minimum wage of ยฃ14 per hour plus extras here now
That is absolute minimum for anyone over 18, then experience adds to that
I think I had ยฃ12 when I was 17 working in a shop
Crazy that you earned so much back in the 70's.
You guys are a friggen hoot! ๐ Love waking up and reading yโallโs shenanigans.
Not exciting? I just read yโall rambling about gas stations and bathrooms. ๐ Iโm not sure it gets more exciting than that.
How many seconds has it been since atx has used a gif
Maybe that should be the new epoch time
Keep devs and engineers on their toes
Tipping is super dumb though
I remember when Jamie's restaurant was here and all the wait staff were trying to do the tipping thing
Felt super insincere
Also this is relevant
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Kinky
Lol, "Home Assistant effect"? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/303738316740
Courier lost the parcel with my Twinkly and in the mean time Twinklys went out of stock nationwide
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Yeah, not all smart products exist because of HA.
You never told us your daughter was so attractive.
I meant something like Slashdot effect
Twinkly may have been around for years
But was it ever out of stock nationwide and selling for ยฃ2000 per string on eBay?:)
Smart home stuff took off ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Twinkly has been out of stock the last two Christmases
Which is why I bought it in November last year
Ok fair enough...
But the fact is that it went oos since last beta was released
:):)
Which is amusing
Even if coincidental
Definitely only coincidence.
I doubt many people went out and immediately bought an overpriced set of LED's after hearing something was in a beta.
Hell, most people don't even pay attention to HA betas.
Rly? I spent every Wednesday hitting F5
Never install them though, just want to know what's coming
Iโm surprised no one has done an open source ws2812 computer vision tribute (copy) of twikly.
Computer vision? For what?
Arenโt twinkly the leds you map on your Xmas tree with your phone camera?
Not a clue. Seems like a total gimmick to me.
The app then knows where each led is
You can map the LED's just fine with something like WLED already, or use something like XLights for fancier stuff.
Nah not like this.
If people want to pay multiple times the cost of WS2812 just for an app, that's their call.
You throw the string on the tree haphazardly then aim the phone camera at it to map the led positions
I get what you're saying. I'm saying you can map them yourself without a fancy app.
What's the retail price for Twinkly compared to DIY?
Everyone on this server went the laborious route for home automation...
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More work but better results.
I ask my girlfriend to do everything. Easiest.
As long as that doesn't include making sandwiches. That doesn't go down well.
She would make me a sandwich to prevent me from turning into a cranky baby.
Hey guys, beware of @midnight adder spreading links to some fake Bitcoin exchange
You can report spam Directly to Discord and they can act against the account. On this server we can ban the user if you provide a screenshot of the spam and the user's handle (eg @spammer#123) in #the-water-cooler.
Yerp. Quite common in this discord and lots of discords. Them motha suckas
Yeah haha ๐ just didn't want anyone to fall for it ๐ reported to Discord too
Eh, I bought them on sale with 60% off
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If everyone jumped into the cloud would you?
spider sense? don't you mean lemming? do you even have spiders in norway? lol
Apologies for the novice question as I only started HA literally 9 days ago AND this is my first go with Discord, but does anyone know how I could get in touch with @ripe radish? They wrote a rad little integration (lock-manager) and I just wanted to throw them a few bucks as a thank you for their efforts. (Perhaps tagging a person notifies them?)
It does
Anyone know if there's a hotkey to remove the last section of a path in the Chrome awesomebar? Like https://www.home-assistant.io/lovelace/iframe| C-x M-c M-butterfly https://www.home-assistant.io/lovelace/|
Which group within HA discord server is the best place to ask questions concerning HA and ESP8266 dev board?
#diy-archived / #hardware-archived / #integrations-archived
Depends on the context ๐คทโโ๏ธ
ESP8266 has tasmota 9.1 running and would like to be able to see it via HA ( first time user and have been reading online and at the HA doc page.)
OK will take a shoot in the dark and try integration.
Are you asking if I'm a sheep? Or are you implying I don't have the sense to understand that 'cloud' is just a buzzword?
Yes
Which?
where do i ask support about messing with rp4 gpio hassio
In a support channel
There's no support for Home Assistant here - please look at the other channels for that. If you can't work out which is relevant, start in #general-archived
No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.
Remember when reporting spam to include a screenshot of the spam and the user's handle (eg @spammer#123)
That tells you where to start.
oks ty
FWIW, I'm a software engineer. Critical thinking and the ability to select the right tool for a task are pretty key to my job. I'd like to think I do an okay job at both of those ๐คฃ
Then again, I could be terrible at my work...
I'd suggest the latter is probably the case. You seem to be great at passive aggressive snakyness though. So there's that to be proud of. How the fork you became a mod is a mystery though. Maybe you just sucked the right dicks?
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Does anyone have an idea on how to get weather forecast panel to show per day forecast from openweatherapi? Right now I only get every 3 hour forecast
I won't apologise for a little sarcasm here and there. I'm British, it's in my blood.
You want to ask in a support channel. #integrations-archived if it's about the integration itself, #frontend-archived if it's about getting information to display from that integration (assuming the right information is there).
OK general question - I have all my lights on WiFi and HA - Whats the best way to get a bed side switch to turn on/off a light?
Assuming you already have a switch: An automation.
Otherwise this question grows exponentially...
I'm not aware of any wifi switches, but there are a few bluetooth ones... people over in #hardware-archived may be able to give you a suggestion.
I have a RF bridge - can I make a 433khz button turn on might wifi light?
Probably... but that's not a discussion for #the-water-cooler
Can we discuss putting home automation in my lounge in this chat ๐คฃ
Let's go with... no.
Mono ๐ฅฐ๐๐คฃ
What about support for home assistant addiction?
loophole. hacs support questions. does not constitute as HA support
sorta one of those things where if you have to ask the answer is probably no lol
Hello all! I'm super new to this subject of home assistant. Before I get too into it, does anyone know if HA will work with the Philips Wiz bulbs? They're the less expensive Hue bulbs.
@hallow lagoon , read the channel topics ๐
Just joined and wanted to say I love Home Assistant. I've barely slept this week I've been having so much fun with it.
Can't get these dang Zooz Zen21 v4 switches to work with scene control though, driving me nuts.
Everything else has gone incredibly smooth.
The joys of 3d printing
My first thought was ... why would you 3D print cookies ๐
Eh, I've only had one cuppa today, and just been outside sorting out plants and dodgy lighting connections - my brain has frozen
The rest of us knew you printed the cutters, not the cookies.
Just two jails left on my freenas now, Plex and motion
I'll keep those their until the very last moment I guess
Migrated sonarr, radarr, lidarr, nzbget, nextcloud, mosquitto, home assistant, node red, influxdb, grafana , esphome, tasmoadmin, qbittorrent and a few more from jails to docker compose
Just need to migrate my remaining run jails to compose now and I'll be golden
I should use your home assistant integration to trigger my Christmas lights outside @deft pewter just for a large scale test so I can announce to my neighbors I'M WORKING
They will know whwn you are working, with your computer stuff. Power goes out ๐
Should make an automation for that , _ if filename contains Stepmom, set volume to 3_
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Totally unrelated, Greta Thunbergs doll on Spitting Image is ridiculously accurate
Spitting Image is supposed to, they've not done it right if they haven't ๐
I just looked up her Spitting Image caricature and all I can find is real life photos of her ๐ค
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Somehow that one looks like human than she does.
I found a few old spitting image episodes, but not all. I love those episodes.
Mmmm first business flight in a long time tomorrow
Try not to die
There's a first time for everything.
I want to get some smart lights for my front porch. The fixtures out there do have a glass sphere enclosing the lights (plus the ones that are in there now are fine in weather) so I'm not particularly concerned about that, but are there any sort of temperature considerations I should make?
Probably
gu140?
In 30c to negative -30c
That's a fleet of bulbs sweet jesus
turns lights on
beam of light into the sky
Also, negative -30 would be plus 30. To be pedantic
Modern houses have 30-40 lights
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In Norway maybe
In Sweden, the only thing with that many lights is the landing strip at Arlanda
I've got 15 or so fixed lights in just the Kitchen and Family room area
Better part of 30 downstairs, and another 20 or so upstairs
That actually makes me want to check how many I've got here, haven't actually checked the number
Granted I only bought this house two months ago
"How many light bulbs do I have" hasn't exactly been the most pressing question lol
We have quite a few downlighters - we prefer those to a single central light
When we got the last house rewired we had the lights in the hall replaced with downlighters. With low output bulbs it created a much more pleasant, even, illumination than one off-centre thing
Wow, 41
Plus three shop lights
That was a much higher number than I realized it would be
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15 light sources in our living room, 12 of them being display cabinets
15 in the rest of the appartment
Yeah, it's easy to add a bunch more sources once you start adding accent lighting
Light sources, no make that 19
Boring shitty appartment, want to move
I would have a similar number to atx, around the house, pointing down to illuminate for cameras
Lots of weak lights as to give even light
Was looking at a place, was 1,55M. Currently at 2,0M with bidding, insane
1.55M tiddly-winks you say ๐
I think tidly winks would be better than money tbh
Everyone seems to have more money
But tiddly winks are a rare commodity
Monumentally frustrated with the situation.
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How did I know that was going to be a Candyrat Records artist?
They have all the cool guitar shit.
Noice, the new update to my amazfit seems to extend my battery life too close to 40 days
did i just spot a fellow anime weeb????
https://www.hackster.io/nickbild/speaker-snitch-26a642
Cool idea, I feel like this could be done a lot easier with HA
Are the mute buttons on those speakers just software switches or do they disable the mic at the hardware level
the newer google stuff is hardware
I mean my first gen google home mini and home are hardware switches but that could easily just go straight to the microcontroller and not the microphone
nah they specifically boast about it being a hardware switch to turn off the mic cause people were concerned of privacy issues
Anyone have some advice for using the larger led power supply? I want to put it behind my couch but don't want the wires so exposed. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HJA3OUG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_47xZFbZPBJV7H
make yourself a a case. just make sure the parts that need to be vented are still vented for air
google it. people make cases out of all kinds of stuff. there is even premade one's you can order online
I like the idea of just placing it in a small electrical box that is designed to be a small breaker box
That thingโs about the price of the Lidl LED strips all in lol
Damn, girl has a counterweight ๐
@obsidian ibex odd I can't find those on Google. In the usa
@clear ferry what are your thoughts on something like this
It's about 40% of the cost of a new 48port poe/sfp+/qsfp+ mikrotik
But obviously it doesn't include the SFP+ modules, I'm not too fussed about QSFP+.
But I'm guessing getting a used sfp+ module will cost more than the switch?
I think Lidl might be UK/EU only, these just launched in store today, very cheap compared to Hue:
https://www.lidl.co.uk/en/p/product-recommendation/livarno-lux-smart-2m-light-strip/p37574
My Pi just arrived, and setup was really shockingly easy. I'm very impressed with this project - my thanks to those of you who work on it! Unexpectedly, it automatically detected my Mysa thermostats - I must have read out of date info, I didn't think it was compatible! It worked through the HomeKit integration, which while cloud-based is better than nothing. I'll take it until they make a local API.
It's very nice now, your next task is to learn yaml
but yaml is being killed i thoughtz
@clear ferry part of me thinks I should just buy a new miktrotik 24 port non-poe switch to start with, then get another 24-port poe when I need it. Then just use 2 SFP+ ports to stack them
I snorted
I have two of those, great for distribution and Poe, wouldn't use them for core
Looks like there will actually be more than 10 people on my flight
make sure to spray your fellow passengers with bleach when boarding
@hushed basalt that switch might be very noisy :/
I don't think I ever in my life cared what the current moon phase was until I started messing with home surveillance
It's almost time for me to bring out all my Christmas sweaters
woman told me that she wants to get me one.
I wanted either this beauty or this one https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0877/4244/products/PornhubClassicChristmasSweater_1024x1024.jpg?v=1606421121
she said nope ๐
hah, I love wireguard
had a SSH tunnel to the customer, but only my home ip is allowed
so hello wireguard
auto connecting on the go is so nice
Yeah, while I've got OpenVPN set up as well, I haven't used it since I got WG working
I should set up wireguard now I'm part of the x86 router club
Wireguard on opnsense was easier than expected
once I wrapped my head around the rules
had to have tinkerer smack my head twice
it could have been a wizard, but it isn't yet
And if you're on a platform supported by PiVPN you can even use their installer to make it easier to setup
guess who's coming home with covid!
What's battery chewsumption like on mobiles
I've never left it on long term to find out, I have it connect only when I'm on untrusted wifi
Yeah, I notice nothing
OpenVPN wasn't much either
My battery life for my last three phones have been 24-36 hours anyway
so I'll surivive
yep 24-36hrs on my iphone11 with wireguard always on (except home wifi)
That reminds me. I need to upgrade my phone in a year or two.
It's almost 3 years old now.
you know a system has a few drives installed
when the list goes to sdbg
yes, that is an extra letter
Silly doofus
sleazy dingbat
sloppy ducks
to be fair, I have never thought about it, but probably sata or scsi since traditional PATA devices were hdx
Sudden death
Ah, you too experienced the IBM Deathstar range...
Ahh. Yes. Those were grim times.
I should have had some spectacles with camera
and I could give you a tour of the HPC datacenter I'm in now
anyone have 2fa working with wireguard? Is that possible without an external service?
not sure what I would use 2fa for on wireguard, if someone managed to write down my key and secret I have bigger issues right now
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I might need to look into that, if it could do yubikey that would be sweet
do you put them in each time you connect with wireguard or are they saved somewhere?
they are saved in the client (for android) and in the config file (for linux)
right, so if someone got those devices while they weren't connected to wireguard, they'd be able to connect to the rest of your network
my laptops are both login via yubikey, so that would assume someone has my yubikey and pin, the other end is my opnsense firewall, so that would assume someone is already on the inside of my network and has compromised that, and my phone is only unlockable via biometrics, so that assumes someone has cut off my thumb
Can be arranged
I mean, or someone yanked it out of your hand or off a table at a conference or something...
while unlocked
it is a narrow threat mode, but yeah, I'm looking to replace openvpn, but we've got 2fa requirements
well yes, but that is a so extreme scenario that is more likely that I leave the phone unlocked in a bathroom stall
and that isn't very likely
we only use wireguard for ssh, because we basically enforce 2fa ssh because all our ssh keys are gpg subkeys on hardware tokens
yeah, yubikeys, or nitrokeys, whatever
You're missing the most important rule of security. Once they have physical access to a device, it's compromised. They don't need atx's thumb.
requirement is gpg subkey on a hardware token, whatever the token is is your choice
they can take it
if you want to use a card and card reader, that's cool too
it lets us do neat stuff like passwordless sudo that checks to see if your token is plugged in via ssh-agent
it also means that we don't need to trust whatever ssh pubkey someone gets us, because, assuming we trust the gpg key, we can just grab the pubkey from their auth key ourself.
it does make onboarding a pain in the ass though
I find it hilarious that my bluetooth headphones work across a 60m datacenter on the other side of two rows of racks, with a lot of electronic interference
but if I put my phone in my pocket while walking
OH LAWD
SAHCA JFASHAH FASH
It's them thicc thighs.
DTMF TONES INTENSIFY
I don't want you to worry but it appears there's something alive trying to crawl out of your ass ๐
Nice discussion about 2fa and security earlier btw
So lets derail that and talk about valves stolen by racoons
2FA could stop that happening
Hello Home Assistant nerds.
Who you calling a nerd, dork?
Geeks, please
I'd rather be called a nerd than a geek ๐
Can I use Home Assistant to have a IP webcam feed, and on movement send an email or push notification to my (Android) phone?
Nerd = introverted and intellectual. Geek = obsessed over comic books ๐
Sure... but we don't answer support questions in the lounge ๐
Check out the other channels. Ask in #general-archived if you're not sure where to start.
what is extroverted and intellectual? ๐ค
But I'm sitting in the lounge.
I could move my laptop to the kitchen to ask questions
At least there you can warm it up on the hob
Did you know you can disable the ping while responding to a message? ๐ค There is this Button in the far right @ON ... imop it should default to off though
Yes, we know. Yes, the default is annoying.
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