#the-water-cooler

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midnight adder
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lmao fuckin hell redditors

odd kindle
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@hollow glacier I don't think I'd survice if I had to endure the southern hospitality 🙂 It's very far from what I'm comfortable with

hollow glacier
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i dont mean redneck shit lol

odd kindle
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no, nor do I

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I've almost had a hard time with the bay area hospitality tbh

clear ferry
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Yeah, the American hospitality in general is...... Uncomfortable for Scandinavians

deft pewter
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Can someone tell their waiting staff that we don't need checking on every 30 seconds and don't want to be their friends? 🤣

clear ferry
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🤣

deft pewter
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Honestly... I'd give them better tips if they'd just f||rig|| off and let me eat in peace.

odd kindle
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I LOVED that with Japan. It was AMAZING

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they never talked extra with out, well we didn't speak the language, they refused tips but the service was the best I've ever had

deft pewter
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Yeah. Professional beats friendly every time.

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It's weird. Wait staff everywhere outside of the US are attentive but don't hover around your table. Makes it easy for them to spot the person that actually wants something.

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Wait staff in the US... can't get them when you want them cos they're too busy being best buddies with all the other tables in their area.

clear ferry
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It's pretty strange, I thought it was a Scandinavian thing , but apparently UK folks trigger on this too

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🤣

deft pewter
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Whenever I see something from /r/talesfromyourserver come up on the front page, it annoys me so much. They complain about not getting enough tips... but they IRRITATE the hell out of people.

clever mortar
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I just want efficient service. Not somebody who wants to share life stories...

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Hell, 99% of the time I'm travelling with work, I've spent all day dealing with random strangers, I have no interest in dealing with more...

deft pewter
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There's exactly one waitress that I don't mind having a conversation with me and that's only because we go to the place so often that she recognises us. She still doesn't hover.

clear ferry
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Unsolicited stranger talking

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🤣

midnight adder
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this whole tipping thing makes perverse initatives, i'm proud when a pizza service man chased me on the streets when I left without tipping in nyc in 1998

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tipping - not even ONCE

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thank god it's not like that here

odd kindle
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that's something I really liked with Japan, they ran after me when I accidentally gave them a few cents to much

deft pewter
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Tipping for good service is fine. Always tipping just because someone said it's a rule is stupid.

midnight adder
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i want to visit usa again in order to avoid tipping

odd kindle
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you're NOT allowed to tip

midnight adder
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it's just rude over there

odd kindle
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tiping your cleaning personal in hotels in the states... make sure not to forget it

midnight adder
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you have to do that? well in that case I missed that too

clear ferry
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@odd kindle afaik it is ok to tip, if you tip a significant amount

deft pewter
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At the end of the stay, maybe... not every day just to encourage good behaviour.

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They have a job to do

midnight adder
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i'm a simple want and want to disrupt the market like uber did to cabs

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hence I never tip

clear ferry
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I tip in the us, but it has to be something special for me to tip more than 10% and I leave a tip for the cleaning ladies wherever I travel

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Other than that I don't tip anywhere

odd kindle
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@deft pewter I have collegues that had their room "tossed" when they didn't tip the cleaning personal

deft pewter
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The whole culture is backwards though and by taking part in it, you're perpetuating the problem. By tipping, the employers get away with paying less.

odd kindle
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@clear ferry dunno, we were told not to tip at all in Japan.

deft pewter
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If someone tossed my room, I'd be straight to the management 😉

clever mortar
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Wouldn't it be strange if employers had to actually pay staff a living wage...

deft pewter
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Unfortunately, it's one of those issues where everyone has to take a stand. It'll never happen.

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They've brainwashed too many idiots into thinking it's normal to pay a 20% tax on top of all the other taxes.

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If they want you to pay $12 for something instead of the $10 on the menu, just put the friggin price on the menu up to $12 and pay the staff properly.

odd kindle
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"I'm not gonna pay more tax, that's socialism", "I'm always adding a 20% tip, I'm not cheap"

clear ferry
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I'm still confused about that when I shop in the us, is tax included? Sometimes, but why, such confuse wow @deft pewter

orchid rose
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Do the companies actually avoid one level of tax from tipping btw?

clever mortar
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Ah, but how many taxes...

odd kindle
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buuuuuut, this is dangerously close to politics

clear ferry
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🤏

clever mortar
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Local tax, national tax, tourist tax...

deft pewter
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Technically, I think tips are supposed to be declared on tax returns. Whether someone does or not is another question.

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Tourist taxes 🤢

orchid rose
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Yeah, I assume there's a lot of income that people forget to file

deft pewter
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I'm already spending money in your stupid country, don't tax me again just for being a tourist.

odd kindle
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they actually had a tax-return if you were a tourist in Japan

deft pewter
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It's like when you check out of a hotel to find there's another hundred bucks still to pay just because you're not a national.

clear ferry
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Just wait till Sonoma sees this

deft pewter
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Is that a younger version of house-on-fire girl?

clear ferry
deft pewter
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Those eyebrows crack me up

midnight adder
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tips are income like any other, no?

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or well I mean usa, every countrys probably different

deft pewter
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I would guess that tips count as income almost everywhere. The taxman will care about them.

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It's funny though... in the UK, the taxman isn't going to bother chasing you for them because you're not pocketing 20%+ of all the food and drink you put through the register that day. 🤷‍♂️

forest edge
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@tidal bronze i got xmas lights on my shed.. time to step up fool!

midnight adder
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it costs the taxman more to chase that money than what there is to receive

clear ferry
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Yeah, tipping here is strange, if someone does it you know they are tourists

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We just pay proper salaries

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🤣

deft pewter
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I'll try to remember that when I visit Norway in... let's say 2035?

clear ferry
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You mean after Corona episode 16 ?

midnight adder
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guess I would tip the cabbie if he shows me the way to prostitutes etc

clear ferry
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Mmmm illegal purchases

midnight adder
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im a gabber

clear ferry
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Btw @deft pewter if you haven't watched Richard ayoades travel man, it is great

deft pewter
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I don't watch travel shows.

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If I want to see what's outside, I'll just go outside.

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For me, TV and movies are for fantasy, not reality.

clear ferry
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Travel shows are great during Corona 🤣

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We usually travel 4-5 times a year

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Not so much now

deft pewter
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Nah... it'll just make me even more depressed I can't travel right now.

midnight adder
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i only watch documentary/reality from TV, too autist to enjoy fantasy

tidal bronze
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@tidal bronze i got xmas lights on my shed.. time to step up fool!
@forest edge nice. I am wondering why my wax candles are not responding to WLED🤔

midnight adder
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freeeenkkk

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where is he

scenic radish
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You good?

clear ferry
velvet horizonBOT
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night zodiac
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My plant has a face

scenic radish
odd kindle
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@clear ferry I tend to round up if I'm out eating dinner

deft pewter
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@night zodiac What's the back one? Dieffenbachia?

scenic radish
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Gesundheit!

deft pewter
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I hate those Alocasia. They look like weird cabbage leaves 😐

clear ferry
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@odd kindle I eat at restaurants.... Maybe 3 times per year, outside of work travel

odd kindle
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@clear ferry just mean in relation top "tipping here is strange"

clear ferry
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Yes it is here too

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But mostly because we don't eat out much

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Frankly, I'm surprised how restaurants even turn a profit

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Very few people I know eat out more than a few times per year

deft pewter
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Good job there's at least 300 people in Norway then.

last cedar
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302, give or take

scenic radish
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How many with chest hair?

night zodiac
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@deft pewter I believe so

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I just do all of the chores and buy them. the girlfriend knows the names

deft pewter
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Has she told you how big the Diffs get? You're gonna need high ceilings 😄

night zodiac
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she's a fucking trouble maker

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we are moving tomorrow. 😉 it has pretty big ceilings

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not massive but big enough

deft pewter
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They grow anywhere up to 20 feet... 😉

night zodiac
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might have to clone it and make a baby

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if it gets too big

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in the middle of moving so a bit messy

scenic radish
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I have one of those shelf lamps but in black

night zodiac
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I have to move all of these suckers in the winter tomorrow

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Tediore, I bought another for the new place to have a total of 2

deft pewter
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She really loves her plants. We only have about 10 plants around the house. Most of them are new this year, so pretty small.

scenic radish
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Ooo

night zodiac
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I would talk about all of the new goodies I just bought but I will get judged because they go against the HA values

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cloud stuff

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google nest stuff, lol

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I'm excited to gadget up the new place

scenic radish
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Cloud 🤢

night zodiac
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lol, see. and Hue to boot

scenic radish
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Stuff ✅

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Cloud stuff 🤢

night zodiac
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haha

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you so green

scenic radish
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Philips Hue is good

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Local API at least

night zodiac
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yeah, I bought a bunch of new Hue stuff and can't wait to put a light strip under the cabinets

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I want a pretty glow under the cabinets and the bar

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I want to let the vacuum robot to learn the new place but I would have to wait for it to be done to move kinda, haha

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without anything in it, that is

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I ran it by the gf and she didn't seem too thrilled on waiting for a robot to learn the home

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I just wanted flawless maps

deft pewter
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Let it learn on the job 😄

night zodiac
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yeah, it will have to. haha

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I was going to wake up real early and go set up the network but that seems like a pain in the ass

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it was cold and rainy all day. Hopefully tomorrow it is a bit friendlier for moving electronics

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I wonder if I can put lights behind the glass at the top

deft pewter
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What about inside the oven too?

hollow glacier
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@night zodiac i just jumped in late.. what sensors are you using for all those plants

deft pewter
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Probably the Xiaomi like everyone else 😄

night zodiac
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vegtrug on aliexpress which is pretty much what mono said

hollow glacier
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dude there is way too much shit to keep track of

night zodiac
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don't buy them if you are expecting reliability

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they are just toys

hollow glacier
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what would i buy for a garden

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outdoor

deft pewter
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But you don't keep track of it. Just wait for alarm states (water too high/low).

hollow glacier
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really i think i only need moisture sensors?

deft pewter
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Outdoors? A gardener.

hollow glacier
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gross

night zodiac
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outdoor, lol

deft pewter
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Do you have rain where you live? That's all plants need.

hollow glacier
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what's wrong with an outdoor garden?

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wtf

night zodiac
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indoor requires relays and shit

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nothing, outdoor is great

hollow glacier
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i live in texas. if i want to grow shit it needs water and nutrients and i suck at providing the plants those

deft pewter
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You can grow cacti and succulents in TX, right?

hollow glacier
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probably

deft pewter
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Gotta get the right plants for the right climate.

hollow glacier
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i only grow shit that i want to eat

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not that looks pretty

deft pewter
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Well you're in luck... you can eat cacti.

hollow glacier
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but i suck at it

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so i spend time each year making a garden and then i slowly kill it

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like there's a fine line with me and learning vs doing the bare minimum

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and gardening i just never put in enough effort to learn

night zodiac
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some people do watering to supplement the weather

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'might be something to look into

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water based off of weather patterns and such

hollow glacier
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yeah

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i've seen it done for sure, that's why i asked about the sensors

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i guess if i dont know how to manually do it, then automating it cant end well

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-.-

night zodiac
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the indoor sensors are a bit of a pain in the ass

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I have to have an esp32 within range so it can relay the info back to HA

hollow glacier
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ah

deft pewter
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We need a Zigbee solution instead of Bluetooth 😄

night zodiac
green inlet
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@night zodiac , you are prob better off letting the roborocks generate a map after all the furniture and stuff is in place.

night zodiac
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yeah, maybe.

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I wanted it to calculate the area of the house for me, haha

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LIDAR

green inlet
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Auh, well, you will be fairly close. Not sure if you have ever had one. I was amazed at the map it generated.

night zodiac
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I let it run in my shitty apartment the other day and it was sweet

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I can't wait for its new home

hollow glacier
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Auh, well, you will be fairly close. Not sure if you have ever had one. I was amazed at the map it generated.
@green inlet are you telling me there's a better way than manually making a floorplan with sweet home 3d?

green inlet
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Never used sweet home 3D so 🤷🏼‍♂️

hollow glacier
green inlet
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That’s not the type of map you get from roborocks. It’s a 2D map

hollow glacier
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oh

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well when i first made this i forgot to put stairs

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i bet it wouldnt make that mistake

deft pewter
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Stairs? You mean cliffs?

hollow glacier
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i mean i made the second story first

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and i forgot to plan to put stairs there

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i didnt do any measuring i just yolo'd and started with a blank slate

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and finished the upstairs then realized oh shit no actual stairs

green inlet
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Ha, you sound like my wife. “How does it get upstairs to vacuum the second floor?”

night zodiac
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"lift me papi"

green inlet
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I just responded, “ I love you baby”

night zodiac
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hahaha

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It took me so long to explain mail forwarding to my girlfriend the other day. It is free for the first year but I told her she could use my card for an additional year and she didn't understand something.

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still not sure what

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but it eventually clicked

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She's smart but she just puts a thought into her head and it is hard to get it out of her head

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she kept going back to "but we didn't pay for forwarding last time"

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me - "I KNOWWWWWWWWW""

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I think we went in loops 6 times and then she went "well why didn't you just say so"

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"Love you baby"

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communication is hard

subtle pasture
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@green inlet The solution usually I see for that is "a second robot vacuum"

night zodiac
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That was my first thought

green inlet
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Yes, we are on the same page @subtle pasture , just took a second for my wife to join us at the time 🤣

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“I love you baby” as well as “you are pretty” are pretty common phrases around our house for 🤦🏼‍♂️

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For both me, the wife, and the kids

subtle pasture
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I getcha. I have moments like that with my girlfriend in the kitchen...
"Did you just drop raw, un-browned, un-seasoned beef chuck into the stewpot?"
"Yeah... what's wrong with that?"
"Allow me to explain the Maillard reaction..."

green inlet
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We all have brain fart moments. Laughing at each other is a great quality.

subtle pasture
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Oh, or
"Where are you going with that pan??"
"To... to clean it?"
"But I haven't deglazed it yet. You're going to throw away all the fond! D:"

green inlet
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Cause the only one in our family who would know what the Maillard reaction is, is prob my son. He freaky smart

forest edge
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@night zodiac you know if you don't pull those weeds they will just keep spreading

night zodiac
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lol

subtle pasture
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@night zodiac How you liking the Roborock vacuum + HomeAssistant? I saw all the trouble people were having with the integration and kinda' wrote them off.

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Didn't want to fight with keeping it connected to HA

night zodiac
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So I haven't used it with any real use but I was reading that there was a solution for using with the roborock app

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but to be honest, I don't care about HA integration

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I just wanted clean floors 😛

subtle pasture
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Aight, so they remain on the shit-list. lol

night zodiac
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to me it isn't really worth getting a worse vacuum just because I wouldn't see it on HA

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but it is usable on HA 😛

subtle pasture
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I'm sure there are vacuums that are both "better than Roborock" and "Work flawlessly with HomeAssistant"

green inlet
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Ha, I love my roborocks.

night zodiac
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okay, I shopped around and the one I got seems to be a favorite so it's what I got without any HA thoughts

green inlet
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What do you mean losing connection?

subtle pasture
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@green inlet Too many possibilities to explain, and that's part of the problem

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Their different vacuums have different levels of support with different apps

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And getting the API key requires a rooted Android device, because it's REALLY not supported

night zodiac
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bluestacks?

subtle pasture
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Just not something I want to deal with. I'll pay extra for shit that just works.

green inlet
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My roborocks 4 works great with home assistant. I got the api key through an iPhone backup. Was a bit of work but now that it is connected, it just works.

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I want the 6

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For upstairs 🤣

night zodiac
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I was reading a tutorial the other night in bed to where you can use the roborock app parallel to HA

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yeah, I got the S6 MaxV or whatever. I tried to run it at the current place a bit but it kept finding the girl's bobby pins

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so I put it away until the new place

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so it can get a head start

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I was playing around with all of the features though. super fancy

green inlet
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Yea, mine sucked up my wife’s underwear in her closet the other day. It definitely isn’t flawless but the issues I have had will be common to any robo vac

night zodiac
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the only real problem I had was wires that were lying with the ends on the ground

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so will sort that at the new place

green inlet
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Yup, wires will stop it in its tracks. I just started doing it when I am home and taking 5 minutes to prep a room before starting it. The office, kitchen, dining room and family room it doesn’t without any problems.

night zodiac
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yeah, I bought baskets for the desk about a year ago

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will install at the new place

green inlet
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Cleans better than me. Goes under chairs and couches and end tables.

night zodiac
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yeah, the girl and I were fascinated watching the pathing it takes

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I sealed it into the kitchen so it couldn't get too far

green inlet
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Ha. When it first did my house I was up till like 1 am watching it in amazement. Definitely be interested in your experience with the 6

night zodiac
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I'm wondering how long it will take

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it's like 1,700 sq feet or 160 sq meters

green inlet
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It took a several hours to map the whole first floor. Then I separated out rooms and through HAss I can clean individual rooms

night zodiac
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very nice

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my girlfriend was excited and said "I can ask it to do the kitchen?"

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I was like yeah you messy baker

green inlet
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I use input booleans and expose them to voice assistants. Also a nice vacuum card.

night zodiac
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neat

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I think I might move to all pis for the new place

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and get rid of this big box

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use some less power

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so I need to redo all of my HA stuffs

green inlet
real salmon
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does anyone have an opinion on a whole home water sensor? flo vs. resideo vs. phyn?

green inlet
shy comet
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i love my neatos only problem is they are cloud only so a bit slow but they work well

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i think the D shape is much better than this circular one for corners though

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robot vacuums are a must for pet owners

green inlet
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Or kid owners 🤣

shy comet
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haha

peak mountain
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any ideas on what to do with two extra raspberry pi 3s?

green inlet
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Ha, there are literally thousands of things. What are you interested in

peak mountain
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Idk, just stuff that's easy to do that I can integrate w home assistant

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I'm upgrading to a 4b

scenic radish
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Tbh I'd look for an inexpensive mini PC if you're upgrading

peak mountain
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Nah, $60 is fine for me

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4 times the ram

forest edge
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lots of great uses for unused pi's just search google. they make "best of this year" projects for pi articles and videos lol

jade tartan
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lets say i'd like some voice controls for HA, without using google or alexa, whats the best options atm?

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i see almond

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and ada

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i wana try to keep the commands local

subtle pasture
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@peak mountain You could set up one of the many whole-home audio systems that exist for the Pi

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Not hard to effectively DIY your own Sonos system, for a fraction of the price

jade tartan
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so i got almond and ada installed

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any recomendations on mic and speakers to hook up to the pi to have it work?

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think you could use one of those on a pi running ha?

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for $10 might be worth trying

orchid rose
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You'll want a multiple mic array if you want voice recognition. Other than that I don't know as I just went with Google Home myself.

jade tartan
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@orchid rose do you use the integration?

hushed basalt
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Anyone ever had to deal with hoarders in the family

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My wifes nana has herbs in the pantry with expiry date of...

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1990

clear ferry
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Oof

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I don't want to think of the expiration date of food in my in laws freezer 🤣

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They've lived in the same house and not changed freezers since the early 70s

hushed basalt
clear ferry
last cedar
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@hushed basalt my parents are hoarders. I did my best. Why do you think I ended up moving to Sweden from the UK 😂

hushed basalt
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It'll be a 10 skip job when they have to clear their estate I reckon

last cedar
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I am not sure if 10 will do

hushed basalt
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They're "clean" hoarders

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So there's not like piles of rubbish in the living room

last cedar
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Same

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Wait

hushed basalt
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But they literally build an extension on their house to fit more stuff

last cedar
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Your wifes nana

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We could be related 😂

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Oh ok

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We are good

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No extension here

hushed basalt
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An insane amount of stuff too

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Like every time she goes shopping she'll just buy like 6 of one thing

last cedar
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But yeah, some people are hoarders, don't think you can do much about it

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Yeah, exactly that

hushed basalt
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It doesn't matter if there's already 20 of them in the pantry

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And if the pantry fills up they just invent new places to store things

last cedar
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I hoard dishwasher tablets. That is my only vice

hushed basalt
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Like they literally could not buy any non perishable groceries for the rest of their lives

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Including toiletries

last cedar
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BTW, you are describing my parents exactly

hushed basalt
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I get annoyed at myself for accidentally buying sugar when we already had 2 bags

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They have a really big pantry too

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Like 8 doors worth

last cedar
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Oh lord. Yeah, that is bad

hushed basalt
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With pull out drawers

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Plus overhead and under counter cabinets

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And a side cabinet

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And some plastic wheely bins and an root vegetable drawer

last cedar
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I did accidently buy 6 packets (51 tabs each) of dishwasher tablets when they were cheap

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So we have like 600 tabs

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We are good for probably 3 years

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That is exactly my parents

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Extra stashing points. They have 2 fridges and 2 freezers. One is a giant chest freezer.

They are 2 pensions

hushed basalt
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Same

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A massive double door fridge

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Plus a fridge in the laundry

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And a fridge in the garage

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The nana still works part time at 79 to afford to keep buying stuff

jovial marten
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what channel would be suitable to ask about issues trying to create users for HA

jovial marten
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nevermind, figured it out

hushed basalt
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@clear ferry did I tell you they started container refunds here

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But there's only 3 reverse vending machine locations in the entire city

rare condor
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PHREEEZ is spammer (Bitcoin spam)

dull chasm
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i cant find him ....do you have his id from dm

tame sand
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he is on the Tasmota server

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it has already been handled over there

dull chasm
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yea but dont want him to do same here

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or he is only there?

tame sand
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true i checked most of them and they don't have any other server in common with me

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no its like 10-20

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i can give you the list anyway

dull chasm
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its fine ...i am not going to ban based on actions somewhere else ...thanks for heads up thou

hushed basalt
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Wouldn't it be funny if he was just a generous rich guy trying to give away free BTC

clear ferry
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@hushed basalt container refunds?

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🧐

hushed basalt
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Beverage containers

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Coke etc

clear ferry
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Oh

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But do you pay a fee up front?

hushed basalt
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It's inbuilt into the price

clear ferry
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Same as here then

hushed basalt
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So a can of coke is say $2.10

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And you get $0.10 back if you refund the container

clear ferry
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Aye

hushed basalt
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But you have to gather a car boots worth to make it worthwhile

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Then spend an hour round trip doing it

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During their opening hours

clear ferry
#

Yeah, all stores who sell cans / containers are by law required to accept them here

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I've returned them in the middle of the night to a gas station

hushed basalt
clear ferry
#

Same with electronics, any store that sells it have to accept it back

hushed basalt
#

Yeah nah they don't care about that here

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I would say that 99.99% of consumer ewaste ends up in the landfill

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Unless good Samaritans who own cars drive 40km round trip to take it to the recycling centre

clear ferry
#

Everything here is recycled tbh

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Paper, plastics, containers, electronics, batteries, metal and glass

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It's all free, we just have to bring it ourselves, which most people do

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Because we are decent people I guess

deft pewter
#

Wait... $2 for a can of Coke? I know Oz is expensive but that's nuts.

hushed basalt
#

Can be much more expensive than that

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Don't even get me started with the cost of beverages from restaurants

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But even from a supermarket a 600ml bottle of coke is easily between $4.50-$5.00

deft pewter
#

I get it at restaurants. You're not just paying for the drink, you're paying for the service and other overheads.

#

I'm annoyed that they've finally crept up over £1 in stores.

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Though our latest retail trick is to keep the price the same and reduce the size.

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'Shrinkflation'

hushed basalt
#

Yeah stuff was so cheap when we were in England

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Especially junk food

dull chasm
#

@hushed basalt i wished... need to find me a rich guy ....paying off land and buying tractor and need this also ....spending way too much lately 🤣

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clear ferry
#

@deft pewter a 0.5 bottle of coke at the super market here is £2.15 plus return £0.17

deft pewter
#

I mean... that seems fair considering your cost of living.

clear ferry
#

We got sugar tax a few years back

deft pewter
#

Same

clear ferry
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They are now removing tax from any non sugar holding stuff, like coke zero

hushed basalt
#

No sugar tax here

deft pewter
#

But I don't drink sugary soft drinks anyway. Hardly ever drink soft drinks and when I do, I take the diet ones.

clear ferry
#

So that would cost £1.85 or something

hushed basalt
#

How much does McDonalds cost for you

clear ferry
#

Cigarettes are quite expensive now I think, I stopped smoking over 10 years ago, but then it was £8 for a ten pack

hushed basalt
#

I found that big mac index not useful

deft pewter
#

It's about £6 for a McD's meal these days.

hushed basalt
#

So about the same

deft pewter
#

Yep, considering exchange rates.

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Which is why I was so surprised about a bottle of Coke costing so much.

hushed basalt
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I paid $6 for a glass of coke from a bar on Friday

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A pint

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From tap

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I should of just had cider, then it would have cost $12 but it's still better value than syrup and soda water

deft pewter
#

Yeah, those tap ones cost pennies for the bar.

clear ferry
#

@hushed basalt 19.96 aud for that here it seems

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For a double one that is

deft pewter
#

But they pay you well in Norway.

hushed basalt
#

Exchange rates is tricky to compare

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I bet median wages are a lot higher there

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After exchange

clear ferry
#

@hushed basalt average monthly salary in 2019 across all sectors was aud7100 it seems

hushed basalt
#

Yeah that's way way higher than our median

deft pewter
#

So like... US$3500?

hushed basalt
#

I think median wage is about $55k here

clear ferry
#

Us5100 it seems

deft pewter
#

Oh, wow. It always used to be close to 2, didn't realise it's only 1.38 now.

hushed basalt
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$48k actually

deft pewter
#

You're going to laugh at UK wages then...

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The average (median) salary for full-time employees in the UK was £30,353 in the 2018/19 financial year.

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I know our cost of living doesn't look high compared to your countries... but our wages suck.

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I always used to envy US-based developers earning ~$100k/year... but then I remember I get healthcare 😄

hushed basalt
#

Average and median are different though

deft pewter
#

Nope. Median is an average.

hushed basalt
#

Plus my figure wasn't for full time

deft pewter
#

Mean and median are different.

hushed basalt
#

You're mean

deft pewter
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😮

hushed basalt
#

Still mine was median for all workers

clever mortar
deft pewter
#

Median is usually the fairer measure for something like wages. Means are stupid and easily skewed by the outliers.

hushed basalt
#

I'm not sure what the mean for full time would be

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I thought average would be skewed by outliers

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Since you have billionaires

deft pewter
#

Yeah... our NMW isn't too bad... but it's kinda surprising that our median isn't much higher than the NMW 😐

hushed basalt
#

Is tipping in the UK a thing

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I've heard conflicting reports

deft pewter
#

Yes... for great service, not as standard.

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You shouldn't feel bad for not tipping here, and you'll never get chased down the street either.

hushed basalt
#

Guy at a curry house seemed pretty offended when we didn't tip

clever mortar
#

Only people I routinely tip are hairdresser/barbers, and taxi drivers locally

deft pewter
#

Well if the service wasn't good, he didn't deserve it 😄

clear ferry
#

@deft pewter but what if you could have 100k+ and health care

deft pewter
#

And everything cost 4x as much? Tough call...

clear ferry
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Psssh

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Exaggeration

deft pewter
#

It's all relative. UK wages don't sound high but it's easy to live well.

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What's your nearest big city, atx?

clever mortar
#

Also, like most countries, wages vary a lot across the country

clear ferry
#

Oslo

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25min by car, 50km

clever mortar
#

Average wage in London screws with the stats

deft pewter
#

Local Purchasing Power in Oslo is 1.54% lower than in Newcastle upon Tyne

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I'm technically better off here, despite having a lower wage than I'd have there.

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And yes, I know I'm not living in a capital city.

clear ferry
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But I don't go out to restaurants or drinking, so the higher prices don't affect me 🤣

deft pewter
#

Seems like it's skewed more by groceries and property prices than by fine dining...

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Also, like most countries, wages vary a lot across the country
@clever mortar This is true. I'd hate to live in Glasgow 😉

clear ferry
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I paid £173k for my house, which is 252m2

clever mortar
#

Well, Easterhouse... I'd agree with you, but Kelvingrove... not so much 😄

deft pewter
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I... don't know how big that is 😄

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Never measured my place. I'm gonna guess mine's smaller...

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Big houses aren't a thing in cities though 😄

clear ferry
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Just since I bought it it has gone up to £330k in local value though

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@deft pewter 2700sqft? Does that help?

deft pewter
#

Nope. It's not the measures I don't understand, I just don't know how big my house is.

clever mortar
#

252m2 would be about 11m square over two floors

clear ferry
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🤣

hushed basalt
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We'd be looking at $700-$800k for a suburban family home here

deft pewter
#

Hmm. Similar size then, maybe?

clever mortar
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Which is a good sized 5+ bed house

deft pewter
#

Oh, not similar then 😄

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3 bed here.

hushed basalt
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500-600sqm land

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4x2 and theatre

#

If an uber eats driver parks his bike in the drive through waiting bay

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Are you legally allowed to push it over

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Like there must be a specific bylaw for that

deft pewter
#

He's waiting too 🤷‍♂️

hushed basalt
#

Yeah but staff aren't going to him he's going to the staff

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Plus it means staff have to hunt around in the normal car park to find the right person

deft pewter
#

Gotcha. Block him in 😄

clear ferry
#

@deft pewter I have 4 bedrooms, 2 living rooms, 3 baths and WC, and a few other rooms, does that help?

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🤣

hushed basalt
#

Just watched the 17 year old mcd worker have to walk through the car park traffic having to find people

deft pewter
#

Yeah, yeah... yours is bigger.

hushed basalt
#

Just because some lazy pos delivery driver didn't want to walk an extra 3 metres

deft pewter
#

Those couriers get on my nerves. I drove into the city the other night to collect food and there were bicycle couriers everywhere.

#

This was about 8pm, so pitch black, and they were riding down streets without any lights or reflective clothing. They're just begging to be hit by a car.

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Cyclists always complain about the way motorists treat them but never think about their own behaviour.

clear ferry
#

Bicycles 🤢

dull chasm
#

they are good for the kids ....for adults like me not so much

deft pewter
#

Nothing wrong with bicycles. And I know it's not all cyclists that are dicks. Just enough of them to be annoying.

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Same with motorists... 😦

clear ferry
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I'm a dick

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Constantly

deft pewter
clear ferry
hearty depot
#

I think that we can call this a shopping spre

deft pewter
#

Oops 😄

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I just had to buy a new washer dryer. No fun spending for me for a while now.

last plaza
#

Did you buy at least smart washer?

deft pewter
#

Indeed

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Wasn't much difference in price between dumb and smart, so went smart. Samsung - will use the SmartThings integration.

last plaza
#

Sweet. I’m waiting for my Samsung fridge too.

deft pewter
#

Smart fridges... I'm not sure what the benefit is 😄

clear ferry
#

They know what you have in them

deft pewter
#

Until they can throw out old food for me and come up with meal plans, I'm not interested.

clear ferry
#

And when to buy more

deft pewter
#

I told the wife about smart fridges. She looked at me like I was stupid.

last plaza
#

It’s got some cool features - 3 cameras inside, 2 speakers and 1 microphone. Integrates with HA, big ass touch screen on the door.

deft pewter
#

Speakers? Can you play Spotify through it? 😄

last plaza
#

Yup

deft pewter
#

"Alexa, play Bon Jovi's greatest hits to my salad"

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(just kidding, I don't eat salad)

last plaza
#

Speakers are outside, not inside 🤣

#

You can play YouTube all day long, got browser and a whole bunch of music apps - including Spotify.

#

I can now stream my outdoor cameras to my fridge. Like a security monitor

hearty depot
#

@last plaza wife ask wich smart fridge 🤞

green inlet
#

“Alexa, play Bon Appetit by Katy Perry and Migos”

last plaza
hearty depot
#

maybe I ll get one too 😄

green inlet
last plaza
#

@green inlet it is not expensive- same cost as regular refrigerators.

green inlet
#

Noice.....my fridge has been a pain in the arse. Wife hates it

last plaza
#

Got $1000 discount at SamsClub online - part of their a Tech Savings.

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I checked prices everywhere, it is the cheapest, and beats normal fridges for the price and features.

clear ferry
#

Stop shoving the fridge up her arse

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She used the safe word

green inlet
#

I just want my ice maker water delivery tube to quit freezing up

last plaza
#

🤣

green inlet
#

Safe word 🤢

last plaza
#

Samsung fridges have ice build up problems too. Drives me crazy once in a while.

#

The fan makes noise when there is ice build up inside.

clear ferry
#

Mine is ||supervised ha|| @green inlet

green inlet
#

We use || harder baby ||

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Mine just stops making ice and you have no idea until the ice is gone 😑

clear ferry
#

Hate it when my wife stops making ice

midnight adder
#

check your door seals, use silicone oil

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if the ice is building up

green inlet
#

Might be related to using cheap filters. Waiting on recently purchased cheap filter to expire to use recently purchased expensive filter

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Luckily I just turn off the ice maker for a couple hours.

midnight adder
#

what filters, where do you insert them

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i'm poor and prefer my fridge dumb

green inlet
#

@clear ferry , so many comments running through my head about your smoking hot wife 🤣

midnight adder
#

ice buildup is 99% because of leaking hot air or the fridge itself running too hot, maybe the air doesn't ventilate around compressor good enough etc

#

but then again these new fridges have so many extra gadgets that I have no idea

tame sand
#

are you a fridgexpert?

midnight adder
#

i sure am brother

tame sand
#

thats cool

green inlet
#

Yea, it is brand new and problem the manufacturer admits too

midnight adder
#

but only dumb fridge mind you

#

yeah then just get rid of it or get a new one under warranty

green inlet
#

The one we currently have was replaced under warranty.

#

Hoping it’s the filter so I don’t have to go through that again

celest oasis
#

whats the point of buying a raspberry pi with higher ram ?

scenic radish
#

Are you asking why more RAM is better?

celest oasis
#

yes

clear ferry
#

Raspberry pi

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🤢

celest oasis
#

is it due to more loaded devices/automation the more ram it requires ?

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@clear ferry haha im new so accordingly to ha web it says raspberry recommended 😦

odd kindle
#

I mean, why don't you just go with 512MB of ram on your computer?

tame sand
#

take 4gb and you'll be fine

clear ferry
#

64TB or bust @odd kindle

scenic radish
#

A pi is a good starting point, but you're not gonna want it forever

odd kindle
#

as for Home assistant specific answers that seems to be a Support question

green inlet
#

When 256 is plenty

odd kindle
#

@clear ferry pfff such weak numbers

celest oasis
#

after raspberry pi which direction should i be looking at ?

midnight adder
#

it's the cpu that is weak

celest oasis
#

i read somewhere that to avoid hosting it on windows if i don't wish to bang my head at every turn

scenic radish
midnight adder
#

if you run many addons then it's tons of containers that need ram too i suppose

#

when the questions is why need more

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the direction is to install gentoo

odd kindle
#

@celest oasis speaking generally people who wants a home server tends to outgrow a Pi rather quickly and look at getting something else. Some go the NUC route, some buy a NAS that can also do some server action, some go the 128TB enterprise grade server-hall stuff

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I'm guessing a few people in here actually have several TB worth or RAM in their servers with closing in on a PT of storage and a gouple of hundreds of GHz

midnight adder
#

yeah, there are tons of nuc clones or similar ones if you're poor like me

celest oasis
#

houses in my country is not very big, im looking at maybe 20-30 devices max inclusive of all sensors

odd kindle
#

I'm running a nuc as my home server, mostly because I can't afford to move

midnight adder
#

because you wasted all your money on that nuc

deft pewter
#

Nah, it's because atx owns all the server equipment.

#

He's been hoarding.

clear ferry
#

I'm guessing a few people in here actually have several TB worth or RAM in their servers with closing in on a PT of storage and a gouple of hundreds of GHz
@odd kindle
You rang?

#

🤣

midnight adder
odd kindle
#

@midnight adder I could buy several thousand nucs for the numbers I'm looking at houses for 😦

midnight adder
#

oh yeah? can you prove it to me?

deft pewter
#

You'll need a bigger house for several thousand NUC's

odd kindle
#

@midnight adder prove what?

midnight adder
#

your purchasing power, i would spread the good word about you here and there

deft pewter
#

His finances are none of your business.

odd kindle
#

@midnight adder when did I mention my purchasing power?

midnight adder
#

i always welcome new patreons on onlyfans

odd kindle
#

is so confused

midnight adder
#

you guys are so sensitive, sigh

odd kindle
#

@deft pewter I would love a house big enoug hfor thousands of nucs 😛

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@midnight adder not sensitive, just not getting what you're saying

tame sand
#

@deft pewter I would love a house big enoug hfor thousands of nucs 😛
and a subscription to liams onlyfans

midnight adder
#

i'm mentally ill sorry

odd kindle
#

I'm sure I could manage without that subscription

#

@midnight adder nothing to be sorry about, we can all undestand it

midnight adder
#

i've been in mental asylum dozens of times, pretty sure because of corona they don't call me in anymore

#

oh well

clear ferry
#

🏇 🏇 🏇

odd kindle
#

we've all been there, done that. Gets old fast

deft pewter
#

We've all been there? 🤔

#

We all carry our own issues... but the vast majority of us have never been committed.

midnight adder
#

not that bad, used to write code with pen on paper there

clear ferry
#

I should have been probably@deft pewter

odd kindle
#

I've coded on paper, it's tricky to get it right without syntax highlighting

clear ferry
#

I started avoiding coding 20 years ago before I lost my mind tbh

odd kindle
#

yeah... no sane people code

clear ferry
#

I'm glad HA learned me yaml though, handy when I start tinkering with ansible soon

odd kindle
#

ansible's nice

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I'm trying to manage everything with it

#

fully realizing it's old already tho

clear ferry
#

I have some customer projects involving it, deploying whole containers with a couple of thousand servers

#

So handy

last plaza
#

I'm glad HA learned me yaml though, handy when I start tinkering with ansible soon
@clear ferry not just yaml, Jinja is pretty similar to Go scripting as well.

deft pewter
#

I'm sane and I code 🤔

clear ferry
#

My Jinja is not strong

#

@deft pewter

deft pewter
#

But I don't aspire to ever be one of those 'leet' programmers. I just do some corporate stuff and go home and do no code.

odd kindle
#

@deft pewter you think you are sane

clear ferry
#

Where is my integration motherlover

deft pewter
#

I think it's pushed back to February now.

#

One week of delay for each time you ask 🤣

clear ferry
#

Noice

#

I'll keep asking then

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And we will have a normal release schedule

deft pewter
#

🤣

dull chasm
#

@odd kindle do what you think is right ....you are asking the nerds for nest solutions and the obivious answer is 96 cores iwth 1tb of ram ....duh

odd kindle
#

@dull chasm not sure I asked anything? Did you mean to ping Zesta maybe?

dull chasm
#

maybe i get confused

signal osprey
#

Hello...i am having issues connecting to a ipv4 supporting modem with rpi (only see ipv6 in logs). i M new to discord. which channel/group should i ask my problem?

forest edge
#

oh shit wyze is coming out with their own robot vacuum. you know there will have to be a better wyze integration for HA after that comes out lol

velvet horizonBOT
#

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clear ferry
#

I'm impressed that my two year old is figuring out how to use the apple TV 4 remote

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Even the touch pad

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Even her mom has issue with that 🤣

forest edge
#

considering it works best when thrown against a wall it's not really that impressive..

velvet horizonBOT
#

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last cedar
#

Actually that joke was over the line, sorry

dull chasm
#

nah ....his barn doesnt have lines

odd kindle
#

missed the joke

last cedar
#

It was for the best. It crossed lines

dull chasm
#

@last cedar so it put @forest edge and @clear ferry in a reliontionship?

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damn i cant spell

last cedar
#

Nope!

dull chasm
#

then its good

clear ferry
#

We have lines?

clear ferry
#

I find it interesting that hearing someone from Austria speak sounds like someone who moved to Germany and is struggling to learn the language

tame cove
#

Exception in state_message_received when handling msg on 'switch' < does someone knows what this means ? the switch is a tasmota device (latest version)

velvet horizonBOT
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clever mortar
hearty depot
#

Flashing roms to my phone again, troublesome xD
just had no internal storage 😓

last dirge
#

I haven't thought about doing that in a long time

#

I think my EVO 3D was the last phone I put a ROM on

#

saw that little guy yesterday

hearty depot
#

sooo.. I got now internal storage working but no mobile data...
grr
maaasive pic 👍

last dirge
#

heh

#

many much megapickles

clear ferry
#

🤏

deft pewter
last dirge
#

I didn't think that it'd upload at full-size

#

not sure why

#

it's only 5.58MB

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and 6000x4000

#

what's the big deal?

#

I could've uploaded the RAW

#

it's 48MB

clever mortar
#

6 MB is peanuts

last dirge
#

that's the JPG

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I think it's 23 megapickles

#

32?

clever mortar
#

Pretty reasonable, and 50 MB for a decent RAW is NBD

last dirge
#

it's Fuji format RAW

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RAF

clever mortar
#

I love the depth of field being so tight on that one

last dirge
#

if I didn't have the aperture so wide the detail on the "hairs" got lost

clever mortar
#

Also "happens" to do a wonderful job of making it the centre of attention

last dirge
#

I really need a different lens for stuff like that, but shoot with the lens you've got

clever mortar
#

I have a nice 80mm that I've done probably more than half my photographs with - does a "good enough" job of being a general purpose lens

#

Used to carry a few different ones around, but realised that it does 90% of what I need, so for just wandering around with the camera I use that one

last dirge
#

I've only got 2 lenses

#

35MM f/1.4 and that one 10-24MM f/4

#

the one I want costs as much as both of those plus my camera body so...

clever mortar
#

I've got .... 50mm, 80mm (or maybe 85mm), a short zoom and a long zoom

deft pewter
#

You mean the iPhone has more lenses than you do? 🤔

clever mortar
#

The 50mm is a 1.4, the 85mm is a 1.8

last dirge
#

what sensor?

clever mortar
#

Nikon something 😄

last dirge
#

my 35mm is 50mm equivalent

#

my camera's got a cropped sensor

clever mortar
#

Yeah, same here

#

The body was expensive enough without going full frame

last dirge
#

I bought it used, two generations old

#

it's still incredible

#

I went mirrorless

clever mortar
#

Mine was new when I bought it, which was ... many years ago now

#

Crap, about 10 😬

last dirge
#

smaller, less crap to worry about

clever mortar
#

Yeah, if I was to buy again I'd go mirrorless

orchid rose
#

Phone cameras are really killing off most of this stuff now, but there's still use for a good DSLR every now and then. Mirrorless would be nice and small, but I don't mind that much as they'll be big anyway with the lens

deft pewter
#

Phones are okay for quick snaps. I still wouldn't go on a holiday without a real camera.

clever mortar
#

Phone cameras are great, if that's all you have, but my 10 year old camera produces visually "better" images than any phone I've seen

#

Crisper, better defined, better colour space - all courtesy of a sensor so much larger than the phone one 😄

clear ferry
#

I upgraded from a Huawei P20 pro to a Samsung A71, I still miss the camera on the Huawei

#

Probably best camera I have ever had in a phone

last dirge
#

the difference that just an actual lens makes is dramatic

orchid rose
#

That's really the issue nowadays with the phone cameras

low harness
#

I'd say my Iphone 11 and my Canon EOS 50D are about equally matched. Comes down to the operator, and when that's me the support of the phone makes the pictures a great deal better.

last dirge
#

on auto?

#

sure

hearty depot
#

im quite pissed that my oneplus5 makes better photos as my canon SLR

last dirge
#

anything outside of that, nah

orchid rose
#

It heavily depends on the type of photo as well

last dirge
#

fixed aperture and incredibly small sensor really limits what the phone camera can do

deft pewter
#

im quite pissed that my oneplus5 makes better photos as my canon SLR
You're using the SLR wrong 🤣

orchid rose
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AI can help with that bokeh but it's not the same

hearty depot
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cant deny that

rancid wharf
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Anyone convert ESPHome that is on an existing device to be connect the the ESPHome Addon?

low harness
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You're using the SLR wrong 🤣
Most people do. But it's harder to use a phone camera wrong.

last dirge
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I've only been using this camera for a few months now but I'm decent with it

hearty depot
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but the SLR gives me maybe 1080 px photos which is 💢
Oneplus around 3k

deft pewter
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1860 wants its camera tech back.

orchid rose
hearty depot
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more like 1998
edit
2008

last dirge
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@rancid wharf are you wanting help with the embedded device or Hass?

rancid wharf
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I have several devices running and connected but I'd like to transfer the yaml to HASS for ongoing updates etc

orchid rose
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This is from my memory but you just match the name of your ESPHome device and add that to the plugin directory and it should show up

last dirge
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oh, you mean the actual configuration YML for the devices

orchid rose
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you won't be able to copy the source or anything, but yeah addons is the right channel

last dirge
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but if you're just trying to get existing stuff working in hass, do what @orchid rose said

orchid rose
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Camera tech has evolved so much since 2008 Underknowledge

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My fairly cheap Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro can almost match my Pentax K-30 indoors now...

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unless you want bokeh and then the DSLR just wins hands down

last cedar
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Depends so much on what you want and how much you want to work for it.

But the best camera is the camera you have with you.

So often phone cam

orchid rose
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And that's the truth. Phone is always with you while a DSLR is almost never

last cedar
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Yeah, I don't dare leave mine in a car or whatever. Nothing fancy, a 60D with their 15 85 lens. But it takes phenomenon pictures

clear ferry
last plaza
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Just printed a bokeh set for my camera - hearts, Christmas trees, ornaments and a bunch of designs.

hearty depot
clear ferry
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Bokeh sounds like a dirty thing, like something @green inlet asks his wife for at valentine's day

last dirge
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bokeh's like having cataracts

last plaza
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Don’t know about that. Never had cataracts 😝

last dirge
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this photographer I follow on Instagram posted some pictures with lights in them

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and I realized he edited the lights to look like someone with an astigmatism sees lights

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the first time I realized that not everybody sees lights like I do was mindblowing

last plaza
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I am waiting to setup Christmas lights, so I can take pictures with bokeh

last dirge
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@last plaza I bought a cheapy contractor table saw

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doubt I'll make anything like your cool game board with it though

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so far I've just ripped fence boards

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exciting, I know

last plaza
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Here is the bokeh set I printed.

last cedar
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Wow

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Didn't know that was a thing

last plaza
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That fits well to my 70-200 f 2.8 L lens.

last dirge
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that's an expensive lens

last cedar
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Great lenses

last plaza
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Yup, it is more expensive than the camera itself.

last cedar
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I don't think Canon have a bad L

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But those are meant to be magnificent

last plaza
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All L series lenses are awesome. Worth investment. I had an amazing portraits- especially with studio lights.

last dirge
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is it a red lens?

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those are stupid expensive

last plaza
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Yes. Red ring

last cedar
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White and red ring

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In that case

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Are you on full frame or efs Skalavala?

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Or another

last plaza
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They work really well even in extreme weather. No issues with condensation or quality.

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I use crop sensor camera. It’s great for portrait photography. Full frame is good for nature and landscapes, which I don’t do much.

last cedar
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Fair enough. So it behaves like 320mm on your body?

last plaza
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I use EOS7D.

last cedar
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It was 1,6 right?

last plaza
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Yes. Exactly.

last dirge
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this is the lens I want

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but that price tag tho

last cedar
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Glad I remember something of what I read 😂

last plaza
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lol

last cedar
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Ooh, with a teleconvertor too though

deft pewter
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I use crop sensor camera. It’s great for portrait photography. Full frame is good for nature and landscapes, which I don’t do much.
@last plaza Shoot me like one of your French girls

last cedar
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Still a lot of money

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French girls? Oh wow

last plaza
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@last dirge that comes with extender? I need to buy the extender someday.

last cedar
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I mean girls, wow. But yeah

orchid rose
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I bought a cheap chinese wide lens adapter. It worked about as well as you would think

last plaza
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I use Paul C Buff flash units. 800watt seconds specifically. They are great!

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Perfect for my little studio lighting, plenty of light to play with.

last cedar
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Tell us more about the french girls!

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Hehe

last plaza
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I’d defer that to @deft pewter

last cedar
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Great!

clear ferry
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French girls

last dirge
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I bought a cheapo flash but they're highly regarded

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Godox

orchid rose
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French girls 👀

clear ferry
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Merde

last plaza
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The whole studio equipment isn’t very expensive. A couple of grand is all it takes. Beats pictures taken from other professional photographers. They charge a ton for each shoot.

orchid rose
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Takes space though

last dirge
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not a lot

last plaza
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Tru

last dirge
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and doesn't have to be deciated

last plaza
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I dedicated a shelf in the basement for it. Nothing but photography stuff - everything fits in there nice and neat. Not very portable though.

last dirge
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since the at-home studios became a relatively common thing, there's TONS of options available at decent prices

last plaza
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Got 21 ft long backdrop stands, 5 different backdrops (cloth and paper based), a few century stands, radio triggers and a whole bunch of props.

orchid rose
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It still takes some space though. Home studio wouldn't be anywhere the top of my priorities tbh. I just don't think I take good enough pics to justify that

last plaza
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I can setup everything within 30 min and be ready to shoot.

orchid rose
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Does the space double for something else?

last plaza
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I’ve had folks give me a call, and by the time they get to my home, I got stuff ready.

last dirge
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CVS: Passport photos are $12

last plaza
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I custom built the shelf just for photography stuff. Everything has a place in it.

last dirge
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Me: how much does a 3x5 cost to print?

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CVS: 29 cents

last plaza
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19 cents at Sam’s

last dirge
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me: cool, be there in a few

orchid rose
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print?

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what is this, the 80s?

last dirge
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ask the department of state

last plaza
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Yep. 19c to print a 4x6 at Samsclub

last dirge
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they want physical photos

orchid rose
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I've taken my last two passport photos myself. Takes a few minutes and it's all online here

last dirge
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I took the photos myself

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printed 'em for 29 cents

last plaza
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Passports photos are cheap. That’s never a problem.

last dirge
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asked if I could use their passport photo guillotine cutter

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saved myself a cool 11 bucks

last plaza
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We take family portraits during holidays every year, having studio saves a ton instead of spending money outside.

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Plus, you get to play with the toys all the time.

green inlet
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French girls and bokeh, sounds like last Friday night 🤣 if I could only get @clear ferry into the states to join me.

last dirge
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have you used Fracture yet?

last plaza
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I havent. Heard about them - printing on glass or something.

last dirge
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yep

orchid rose
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is it a cool effect?

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Never seen that

last dirge
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used them for a memorial photo for my foster dog and it turned out awesome

last plaza
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Borderless stuff. Walmart is doing it too i think

last dirge
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It's really cool, completely borderless

last plaza
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Nice

last dirge
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they back it with something that's like thick matting like in framed stuff

last plaza
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Ok... will try that this year then

last dirge
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you can buy a little kickstand or hang it, it's got the keyholes in the backing

last plaza
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Sweet!

last dirge
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if you're thinking about doing that, keep an eye on Groupon

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usually there are a bunch of photography printing deals at the end of the year

last plaza
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Ok...

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Contractor table saw must take a lot of space in the garage @last dirge

last dirge
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nah, folds up

last plaza
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If I have a barn, I’d get one.

last dirge
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also, full unfinished basement

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you're thinking of a cabinet saw

last plaza
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I’m thinking of sawstop

last dirge
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they make a contractor saw too

last plaza
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Yeah... but first, I want to print my own CNC this holidays.

last dirge
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router?

last plaza
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Changeable head - router, or laser head

last dirge
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that won't work out how you think

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a laser like that will only be able to mark

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and only a very limited amount of stuff

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here's the saw I ended up getting

last plaza
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I’d want router first. If you get anything above 30w laser, it should be able to do basic stuff.

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You got Ryobi! That’s a good one.

last dirge
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solid state lasers suck

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control system for my laser

last plaza
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Yeah - I have a few 3D carving projects lined up for next year. If I can get to it, that would be great.

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Do you have a laser CNC?

last dirge
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I did for a while

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potato quality image of the naked enclosure

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40W RF excited CO2 laser

last plaza
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lol

last dirge
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flying optic

last plaza
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Nice.

last dirge
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I guess I didn't know how to take pictures yet

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there's the Y axis

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cutting head mounts in the hole on the carriage

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man that was 9 years ago

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I had a large format CNC router for a whikle too

last plaza
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I got some projects to do this winter. Couldn’t do much in summer.

last dirge
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LOL

last plaza
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Have to blame @clear ferry for it

last dirge
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I just remembered, we had a gas leak and had to GTFO the house

last plaza
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He dragged me into 3D printing

clear ferry
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Old man skälåvælö has 6 month recovery time from a twisted ankle

last plaza
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lmao

last dirge
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the fireman went in the house, came out, flagged the officer over

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then the officer comes over to me "what do you have going on in that room up there?"

last plaza
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Not ankle - shoulder 😝

clear ferry
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Psssh, upside down skälåvælö

last dirge
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I mean, it did kinda look meth-labish

clear ferry
last plaza
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At least I was productive indoors though

clear ferry
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🍆

last dirge
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the fume extractor has a 4" duct exhausting through that wall to the right

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so I had to explain all that to him

last plaza
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I see that! Do you need that in the garage too?

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Garages are well ventilated

last dirge
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that wall to the right is a knee wall

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so it's outside

last plaza
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Ok

last dirge
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this was at my old house

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that was in a bedroom

last plaza
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you had it in bedroom? Say more! 😎

last dirge
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you don't wanna be inhaling pretty much anything that laser's sublimating

last plaza
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Of course

last dirge
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it was pretty cool

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but if I had to do it over again, I'd buy a chinese laser and not waste my time

last plaza
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What was the use case for you to have CNC?

clever mortar
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Because he could 😄

last plaza
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lol

clever mortar
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That's the use case for most 3D printers 😛

last dirge
last plaza
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Where is the nut button when I need?

last dirge
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laser-cut/engraved backing for the CNC electronics

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shortly after we moved and I sold all of it

last plaza
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Ah!

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That's the use case for most 3D printers 😛
@clever mortar I hardly printed anything useful. It’s all mostly fun stuff.

clever mortar
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Sounds like the best reason

last plaza
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Spent way too much on the filaments than the printer itself

clear ferry
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Reminds me, I should print the Christmas gifts soon

clever mortar
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You can print coal now?

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🤯

clear ferry
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🤣

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I'll print a piece of coal for you atleast

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🥳

clever mortar
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No Broons treats for you then 😛

hushed basalt
brisk glen
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Nanoleaf essentials a19 bulbs are only $20 for color led

hollow glacier
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Y tho

brisk glen
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And they are thread bulbs

deft pewter
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Thread? What's the point?

hollow glacier
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Oh nano leaf makes more than overpriced wall thingys?

deft pewter
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They do now. They just launched their 'essentials' range.

brisk glen
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HomeKit thread?

hollow glacier
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Oh

deft pewter
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Which is... a bulb and an LED strip.

brisk glen
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Cheaper than Phillips hue

hollow glacier
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Better?

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I went all hue so far 🤐

deft pewter
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Oh... so Thread's irrelevant for anyone that's not an Apple fanboy. Gotcha.

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I'll stick with universal standards.

brisk glen
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Thread is better than zigbee... and yes I also went all in with hue