#the-water-cooler | Home Assistant | Page 612

dull belfry Nov 6, 2020, 10:26 PM

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I'm moving soon and planning to make everything smart, I'm not sure where to start 🙂

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I'm thinking to start with Zigbee devices because it's cheaper and I have good wireless coverage. Maybe I should start with buying security cameras and sensors and something that allows me to voice control devices

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Anyone happen to know a good article to get recommended for buying hardware?

deft pewter Nov 6, 2020, 10:31 PM

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A single article? 🤔

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You'll find a bunch of recommendations if you scroll back through #hardware-archived or check out the forums.

dull belfry Nov 6, 2020, 10:32 PM

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Thanks... There are just way too many brands 🙂

forest edge Nov 6, 2020, 10:57 PM

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saw that eaton makes smart switches and outlets. costs an arm and leg but you know those suckers are robust lol they have z wave and wifi ones

bitter pawn Nov 6, 2020, 11:42 PM

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link?

fast canyon Nov 6, 2020, 11:44 PM

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I am programming something which sends data to an mqtt server.

Lets say I have 100 key-value pairs for one device, what should I do?:
1. publish one message with a single big json string containing all values to a single topic representing the device
2. publish to 100 different subtopics (of the device topic) representing the field names
3. publish 100 somehow distinguishable messages to a single topic representing the device

dull chasm Nov 6, 2020, 11:49 PM

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i personally would say one since mqtt/ha can parse json values

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but creating a custom compent that created entitys would be best

fast canyon Nov 6, 2020, 11:51 PM

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Number 1 should be very performant, too. But maybe thats no advantage if I anyway somehow can send 100 messages as batch

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but creating a custom compent that created entitys would be best
@dull chasm Thats might be step two after I made the data available on mqtt.
I am unsure if you hint me to something specific. I am not familiar with creating custom components yet.
Based on my current knowledge I would just add a card to my home assistant and connect it to the data manually.

dull chasm Nov 6, 2020, 11:56 PM

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@fast canyon man to be honest ...i have been on 80 hour weeks for 12 weeks ...so my brain is fried ....but if this is just for yourself then have fun but if it can benifit the community it may help to ask the guys in #developers

fast canyon Nov 6, 2020, 11:59 PM

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@dull chasm: Definitely time for a long nap. Get some rest :)
I am actually planning to publish the mentioned python program. If I can do somthing for home assistant, too I am willing to. Will evaluate that. Thank you for your hint.

static schooner Nov 7, 2020, 12:01 AM

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@fast canyon man to be honest ...i have been on 80 hour weeks for 12 weeks ...so my brain is fried ....but if this is just for yourself then have fun but if it can benifit the community it may help to ask the guys in #developers

Have you been running for president?

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I hope you won 🙂

dull chasm Nov 7, 2020, 12:34 AM

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@static schooner no i work in goverment

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at the state level

jade tartan Nov 7, 2020, 12:42 AM

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anyone running octoprint from their HA instance?

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was gona ask how it was

peak cloud Nov 7, 2020, 1:27 AM

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but creating a custom compent that created entitys would be best
@dull chasm Custom component not necessary. That feature is baked right into the core. 🙂

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See more here: https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/mqtt/discovery/

tidal bronze Nov 7, 2020, 1:41 AM

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@shy comet android app reports CID ?

shy comet Nov 7, 2020, 1:42 AM

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@tidal bronze use the new last notification sensor with the phone app selected. It will show up under one of the attributes

tidal bronze Nov 7, 2020, 1:46 AM

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Thank you

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@shy comet shows everything under the sun other than CID 🙂

shy comet Nov 7, 2020, 1:56 AM

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It doesn't show the contact name?

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Mine does

tidal bronze Nov 7, 2020, 1:56 AM

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Not on mine

shy comet Nov 7, 2020, 1:58 AM

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Try the Google phone app? 😜

tidal bronze Nov 7, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Wowza .....Tasker then 🙂

dull chasm Nov 7, 2020, 2:31 AM

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Rabbits are People Too

static plinth Nov 7, 2020, 4:08 AM

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Can someone explain to me the legality of a company basing it’s monitoring system on home assistant and selling a hub with home assistant pre-loaded on it?

forest edge Nov 7, 2020, 4:10 AM

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would depend on it's marketing I suppose

static plinth Nov 7, 2020, 4:10 AM

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I suppose so too, which I think would actually be the biggest stumbling block because big companies don’t like to share

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And small companies for that matter want their name to be branded along side the big company instead of just taking a backseat and enjoying the promotion in new subscriber base

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Luckily I’m not a marketing person

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Just to clarify I’m not imagining anything nefarious, I just have a real chance of getting my battery manufacturer to Get on board so I’m trying To talk out how to best propose everything that needs proposing

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In my case I don’t think they would want to stay away from the fact that the product uses home assistant software - That’s part of the appeal. But I don’t know if that product could actually be sold for a profit with the software being a feature without some sort of official permission because I’m not too familiar with open source licensing rules

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But to me it’s an opportunity to bring our user base on to home assistant

last cedar Nov 7, 2020, 6:23 AM

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Accidentally bought myself an SMX1000i with a front (new battery refurb).

WOOPS

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 6:24 AM

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I'm really happy with my powerwalker ups`

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2400va for 1400NOK

last cedar Nov 7, 2020, 6:25 AM

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I probably should have gone that route tbh

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But it is done now 😂

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 6:26 AM

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The 1200VA was 600NOK or something

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Supported by most operating systems via NUT too which is nice

last cedar Nov 7, 2020, 6:27 AM

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By my reckoning I shouldn't have a lot of load, I run around 210W at the moment. Got that down to 200 with 2 less cameras (old 1366 server eats electric). New router will pull like 25W, same for bare NAS. Instead of about 90W for my 1366 system. Might be able to build the same at around 150W with more modern and efficient components

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Oh yeah for sure

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graceful shutdown is just as important as battery backup

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planning to have OPNsense as my NUT master

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useful to have internet when there is a power cut. not that it happens often here. but may well do when I move. Want to live in the middle of no where

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in a container

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with lots of trash

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Are intels 2.5gbps NIC chips still a mess? Is it still better to go with a realtek (I can't believe I am asking this)

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On a B550/ X570 board

hushed basalt Nov 7, 2020, 7:34 AM

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Poor intel

peak mountain Nov 7, 2020, 8:45 AM

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I've got an extra raspberrypi, any ideas?

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I want to do something interesting with it

last cedar Nov 7, 2020, 8:58 AM

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Smart mirror

dim blade Nov 7, 2020, 9:00 AM

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Mini weather station

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Kodi media center

hearty depot Nov 7, 2020, 9:02 AM

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I got.. les see..
5 laying around
when you got a server you could do a diy IMM https://github.com/pikvm/pikvm#limitations
got a alexa or google home at home, ( and a A+) https://bjoernkarmann.dk/project_alias
when you in need of passive user monetoring
https://github.com/andrewjfreyer/monitor

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📎 IMG_20201107_100609.jpg

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 9:35 AM

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Pi

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🤢 🤢 🤢 🤢

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📎 20201107_103255.jpg

last cedar Nov 7, 2020, 9:45 AM

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Is that a raw dragon? @clear ferry

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 9:48 AM

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Have you no shame

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It is he who sleeps

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And with strange eons even death may die

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📎 20201107_103239.jpg

peak cloud Nov 7, 2020, 9:52 AM

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I see layer lines!

last cedar Nov 7, 2020, 9:52 AM

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I have no shame, nope

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also

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I have no idea who/ what that is

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I am thinking Davy Jones from Pirates of the Carribean 😛

peak cloud Nov 7, 2020, 9:53 AM

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It's obviously the Loch Ness Monster...duh doy! /s

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 9:54 AM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/d78ef357b098dc2e43d4a200762904d3/tenor.gif

last cedar Nov 7, 2020, 10:01 AM

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I am not joking

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I am a racoon, we don't have large brains

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but we do have lots of trash

odd kindle Nov 7, 2020, 10:11 AM

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I've almost seen the loch ness once, but I think it ended up just beeing a weird wave

deft pewter Nov 7, 2020, 10:14 AM

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Almost seeing something that doesn't exist is pretty impressive.

last cedar Nov 7, 2020, 10:14 AM

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😂

odd kindle Nov 7, 2020, 10:16 AM

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it's rather fun how many people belive in it around the lake, or at least make a genuine effort to talk about it like they do

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 10:20 AM

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@last cedar Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

last cedar Nov 7, 2020, 10:21 AM

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oh

dusky plank Nov 7, 2020, 10:21 AM

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gesundheit

last cedar Nov 7, 2020, 10:21 AM

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Isn't that the thing that narwals stop from eating ye?

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 10:23 AM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/ae22cca9a3f8969b0090a51f3b0cdacd/tenor.gif

last cedar Nov 7, 2020, 11:41 AM

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https://preview.redd.it/c7y567aj8rx51.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=947cd9df3327d5e02390ade7b4e9c6a16920ac50

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"Rare photo of mother Wrench feeding her new hatchlings in the wild. Breathtaking."

deft pewter Nov 7, 2020, 11:45 AM

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Mother Wrench is an idiot, those are Spanner hatchlings.

last cedar Nov 7, 2020, 11:45 AM

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😂

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probably 10mm

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No. It was 10mm sockets

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not spanners

deft pewter Nov 7, 2020, 11:46 AM

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I'm going to say 15mm and 16mm. Not sure why.

last cedar Nov 7, 2020, 11:48 AM

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I have no idea

gloomy temple Nov 7, 2020, 11:52 AM

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question moved away!

last cedar Nov 7, 2020, 11:53 AM

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You might be better asking in #hardware-archived I think.

I use Ikeas outlets and lights though.

deft pewter Nov 7, 2020, 11:53 AM

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Definitely better asking support questions in a support channel

velvet horizonBOT Nov 7, 2020, 11:53 AM

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The topic of this channel is:

@gloomy temple There's no support for Home Assistant here - please look at the other channels for that.

No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

Remember when reporting spam to include a screenshot of the spam and the user's handle (eg @spammer#123)

gloomy temple Nov 7, 2020, 11:54 AM

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Ouh, okay! Sorry - and thanks. :)

deft pewter Nov 7, 2020, 11:54 AM

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This is the shitposting channel 🙂

gloomy temple Nov 7, 2020, 11:55 AM

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throws shitposts around

limpid wind Nov 7, 2020, 12:22 PM

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With the abundance of wifi smart plugs, is it common occurence thus far that people have been left with paper weights after the company switches of there AWS servers?

deft pewter Nov 7, 2020, 12:28 PM

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Probably. This is why app-based devices suck.

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ZigBee/Z-Wave all the way 😉

odd kindle Nov 7, 2020, 12:30 PM

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There's apparently some new standard being developed by the zigbee people...

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so zigbee well be abandoned as well, I've heard

deft pewter Nov 7, 2020, 12:30 PM

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https://xkcd.com/927/

xkcd: Standards

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ZigBee won't be abandoned.

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Considering there's already a huge market for ZigBee, it's not going to go away just because someone else creates an alternative.

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It'll be a slow transition, and that's assuming they even get it off the ground to begin with,

odd kindle Nov 7, 2020, 12:32 PM

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the point was that it's not "someone else" it's the zigbee peopel that hav said zigbee is no good and we have to replace it. Something along those lines. But I know to little about it

deft pewter Nov 7, 2020, 12:32 PM

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https://staceyoniot.com/should-you-be-concerned-about-the-future-of-zigbee-and-z-wave-due-to-project-chip/

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As far as the Zigbee protocol used today, here’s what CHIP says about it in the future: “Yes, the Zigbee Alliance and its members are continuing to drive the development and growth of the Zigbee protocol, both today and after the launch of the Project’s protocol. Those developing Zigbee products today will continue with confidence.”

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We all know things can change... but they currently have no plans to phase out ZigBee.

odd kindle Nov 7, 2020, 12:33 PM

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the goog thing is that your zigbee devices will keep on working

deft pewter Nov 7, 2020, 12:33 PM

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Of course they will, I have all the hardware 😉

odd kindle Nov 7, 2020, 12:34 PM

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even if they stop doing more devices

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 12:50 PM

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Technology lives on for years after it is replaced

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Just look at the American infrastructure

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🤣

wanton bobcat Nov 7, 2020, 12:50 PM

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Hey all, I’m going to setup a VLAN for all my IOT devices. I’ve got a couple architecture questions:

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should my RPi runnning Hassio be on the same VLAN as IOT, or separate? From a security perspective.

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 12:51 PM

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Yes

wanton bobcat Nov 7, 2020, 12:51 PM

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how does auto discovery work across VLANs, if it’s a separate VLAN?

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 12:51 PM

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Depends on protocol

wanton bobcat Nov 7, 2020, 12:52 PM

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Do you enable talk on specific protocols between VLANs on the router? ( I’m using a UDM pro)

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 12:52 PM

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In fear of repeating myself for the nth time, people who don't understand networking who try to "secure" their networks often just end up making it more insecure, so know what you are doing ;-) best regards a guy who has worked with networking for 20 years

wanton bobcat Nov 7, 2020, 12:53 PM

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Haha, so you would suggest keeping it all on the same network until I get educated?

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It’s a fair point. Then the follow up is - how do I learn?

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 12:54 PM

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Well.. that is your choice, you add complexity that people who don't understand how stuff works create workarounds for that in the end makes it just as secure as having devices on the same network

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If you are willing to learn, it is a good field to have knowledge in

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I don't know UDM at all, won't touch that, but you can start out by placing a single device you intend to talk to in a different VLAN, with no firewall allow rules in place, then start looking at firewall logs and see what is actually going on

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Both trying to reach it, and it trying to reach something else

wanton bobcat Nov 7, 2020, 12:55 PM

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Great idea - just to play around with it, learn, without disrupting everything

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 12:56 PM

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Exactly

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I would say, do it on your lab enviroment, but then I remembered, not everyone has a lab enviroment 🤣

wanton bobcat Nov 7, 2020, 12:56 PM

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Another architecture question though - how do you know what devices to separate on different VLANs? IOT, HA, my NAS, phones/work computers etc

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 12:57 PM

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That is entirely up to your level of paranoia

wanton bobcat Nov 7, 2020, 12:57 PM

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My threat model is script kiddie

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 12:58 PM

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I currently run 4 VLANs, 99% of my stuff is on my primary vlan, I have one VLAN for access to my lab enviroment from the internet directly, one for my wifes cybersecurity sandbox and one just for placing stuff in an isolated vlan to poke it

wanton bobcat Nov 7, 2020, 12:58 PM

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I know I’m not locking out the NSA, maybe not even the Chinese or Russians. Although it would be a great side effect if It could be done

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Ok that’s helpful

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So you include IOT on same VLAN as most things

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 12:59 PM

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My lab enviroment can be accessed from LAN but not from any of the other enviroments, and it is reachable by its own WAN IP, my wifes sandbox can only reach WAN, none of the other networks, my isolated VLAN cannot reach anything, I just put stuff there to see how it behaves, it is also reachable from my LAN

wanton bobcat Nov 7, 2020, 1:00 PM

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How do you get separate WAN IPs from a single internet provider (this is a limit of my knowledge....)?

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 1:00 PM

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Everything I have in regards to IoT is on my LAN yes, and I block individual devices as I see fit

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from accessing the WAN

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I have had atleast a /28 network from my ISPs for the last 20 years

wanton bobcat Nov 7, 2020, 1:01 PM

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Is that a special case you managed to snag or typical of US-based ISPs??

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 1:01 PM

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Basically, pull the WAN into it's own vlan, then just distribute that VLAN to ports \ devices you need to have directly exposed to the internet

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they will get a WAN IP

wanton bobcat Nov 7, 2020, 1:01 PM

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Ah I see

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 1:01 PM

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I live in Norway so...

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🤣

wanton bobcat Nov 7, 2020, 1:01 PM

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Lol

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 1:01 PM

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Don't get me started on American ISPs

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that is a shitshow

wanton bobcat Nov 7, 2020, 1:02 PM

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My fault for assuming word revolves around US right now 😉

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*world

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 1:02 PM

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🤢

wanton bobcat Nov 7, 2020, 1:02 PM

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They are a shit show, it’s terrible.

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 1:03 PM

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Most I have ever had need for was 8 IPs, and I had that from my ISP in 2004

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Currently I only use 3 IPs not sure how many I have from my current ISP

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that is just IPv4 though, I have a full /48 I belive of IPv6

deft pewter Nov 7, 2020, 1:12 PM

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8 IP's for one home connection. That's why IPv4 ran out of addresses...

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 1:15 PM

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SORRY ABOUT THAT

limpid wind Nov 7, 2020, 1:17 PM

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I agree zigbee all the way but just trying to gauge if there has been any wifi plug that have been made paperweights yet, I know there is hubs but not so much heard about plugs

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 1:17 PM

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A lot of wifi plugs yes

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since 99% of them are cloud based

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while zigbee will always have local fallback

deft pewter Nov 7, 2020, 1:22 PM

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Even my TP-Link Kasa stuff that can be controlled locally still needs to use their app to set up.

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If they decide to switch it off, I'll never be able to pair it to a new network.

low harness Nov 7, 2020, 1:24 PM

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SORRY ABOUT THAT
@clear ferry nono. That’s a GOOD thing. https://xkcd.com/865/

xkcd: Nanobots

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 1:24 PM

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smart

low harness Nov 7, 2020, 1:25 PM

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Your hogging of three entire bits will save us all

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Or 60 % of us...

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 1:27 PM

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Then I shouldn't mention all the hpc university stuff I set up

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Or mention that my company owns quite a few blocks

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I think we own 3 /8 blocks now

patent bloom Nov 7, 2020, 1:38 PM

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Even seasoned network guys sometimes hose a VLAN setup and spend hours figuring out why...

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 1:48 PM

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Yeah, after doing 14 hours if implementation I can make rookie mistakes too

dull chasm Nov 7, 2020, 1:56 PM

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yall must be really bored to be worried about america ....not like you are perfect

deft pewter Nov 7, 2020, 2:02 PM

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If Americans can comment on Brexit, we can comment on your election 😉

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Anyway, better to avoid politics 😄

dull chasm Nov 7, 2020, 2:09 PM

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not talking politics .....just the bashing ...i dont see americans posting that so and so is a shit show

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to me its hard to judge a country without living there .....gives me no inside info or understanding of the people and problems ....so i chose to let it be local

scenic radish Nov 7, 2020, 3:03 PM

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vague narwhal Nov 7, 2020, 3:12 PM

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Anyone here ever tried getting esphome working on the mijia ir remote?

velvet horizonBOT Nov 7, 2020, 3:13 PM

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ESPHome is a system to control your ESP8266/ESP32. You can find their documentation here, and get help here in the #diy-archived channel. They have their own Discord server too.

clever mortar Nov 7, 2020, 3:13 PM

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You could ask folks there, or in #diy-archived

vague narwhal Nov 7, 2020, 3:26 PM

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aight, reposted

shrewd oasis Nov 7, 2020, 3:46 PM

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Does anyone know how to DM someone on the community forum? Or if SeLLeRoNe is here under a different name?

clever mortar Nov 7, 2020, 3:49 PM

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On the forum, you can just message folks

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Click on their name, click Message

dull chasm Nov 7, 2020, 4:25 PM

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dang really

late gate Nov 7, 2020, 4:54 PM

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any wifi experts that know where to debug at "invalid MIC in msg 2/4 of 4-Way Handshake" on a regular WPA join request (the device has been connected, then getting this at reboot). Happens on WPA1 and 2, short password, long, everything special turned off. It always fails on invalid MIC

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Wpa1 🤕

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But it appears to be a protocol disagreement

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So, I see mentions of forcing AES instead of AES tkip mode and disabling mixing of 2.4 and 5ghz ssid

late gate Nov 7, 2020, 5:13 PM

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I tried wpa1 and wpa2, no mix, legacy support etc

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whatever I do I get the same error

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I start to wonder if the issue is on the client side, not the ap side

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By specs the wifi chip they are using should support all modern auth methods http://www.hi-flying.com/hf-lpt120?fbclid=IwAR1W718QypWhsYnsSzyv4vvGoms2gJdP8PcXNg065hWgp37ejv5pC7ag0E8

UART to Wi-Fi [LPT120]

● Support IEEE802.11b/g/n Wireless Standards
● Based on High-Flying Cost Effective Wi-Fi SOC: MC300 chipset
● Support UART/GPIO Data Communication Interface
● Support Work As STA/AP Mode
● Support Smart Link Function (APP provide)
● Support Wir

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funny thing is if I set the product in AP mode, enter the ssid/password it works, but after rebooting it, it get that error. If I rejoin it from the router it works

shrewd oasis Nov 7, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Click on their name, click Message
@clever mortar ah I wasn’t logged in

midnight adder Nov 7, 2020, 5:26 PM

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wpa2 by bruteforce

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you just need to open demiruge beforehand

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 5:30 PM

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@late gate Def a client issue, but could be related to whatever ap you are running

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Have you tried any other ap just for lulz?

late gate Nov 7, 2020, 5:31 PM

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yes, works on all cheap routers like altibox etc, but when you get into ap with a bit more settings no go

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thats why they wont fix it. it works for most people

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 5:32 PM

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So, not working on ubiquiti?

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🤢 🤢 🤢

late gate Nov 7, 2020, 5:33 PM

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thats true, but its no logical reason why

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its a lot of other routers it doesnt work with too

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in general people need to do init setup with their phone with a hotspot

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then connect it to the router

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but seem like unifi is too clever for that "trick"

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 5:35 PM

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I blame ubiquiti

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smart

late gate Nov 7, 2020, 5:39 PM

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ofc you do :p

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could it be that usg is using radius on the bottom with a vlan that makes it too complex

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that the vlan is makes the client crazy

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 5:45 PM

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As I understand the error it is layer2 atleast

scenic radish Nov 7, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Sure it's not layer 8?

clever mortar Nov 7, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Could be layer 3.14

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Probably at layer ubiquiti

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🤢 🤢 🤢 🤢

scenic radish Nov 7, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Oh hush

late gate Nov 7, 2020, 5:52 PM

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I thought u guys are network experts :p

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sure you didnt go on an excel course? :p

scenic radish Nov 7, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Is anyone a network expert?

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 5:54 PM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/e1396938670eb076c522315605f3fb5b/tenor.gif

clever mortar Nov 7, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Well, WiFi and networking experts... not a common combo 😛

late gate Nov 7, 2020, 5:57 PM

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true. Its not too important the frakking oven cant connect. its just my OCD kicking in that one act like a child and wont connect

scenic radish Nov 7, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Wait this is for your oven lol

deft pewter Nov 7, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Smart ovens? 😮

late gate Nov 7, 2020, 6:00 PM

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yes

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not like food oven

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heater then

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its just annoying when something is not working

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or more annoying when its working a bit, then not working

deft pewter Nov 7, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Ah. I have my heating set up via Zigbee. I really dislike WiFi.

forest edge Nov 7, 2020, 6:09 PM

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why

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Long live zigbee

late gate Nov 7, 2020, 6:27 PM

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yes, but this oven doesnt have zigbee

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should put an xbee in it

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hoping for better xbee support in the open source projects

clever mortar Nov 7, 2020, 6:27 PM

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WiFi2MQTT2Zigbee2MQTT - we should get @scenic radish on that

last plaza Nov 7, 2020, 6:28 PM

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I am very happy today.

late gate Nov 7, 2020, 6:28 PM

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why?

last plaza Nov 7, 2020, 6:29 PM

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There is a disease that I have been trying to get rid of for the past 4 years. Finally happened.

late gate Nov 7, 2020, 6:29 PM

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congrats! good feeling

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 6:45 PM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/ed45ae2f6b1c8fffe163e2170e867aba/tenor.gif

dull chasm Nov 7, 2020, 7:28 PM

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@last plaza dont be a hater

low harness Nov 7, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Let me just leave a friendly reminder that the no politics rule applies to mods too, and suggest we drop this sooner rather than later.

last plaza Nov 7, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Timing was horrible! Looks like folks are confused with the disease that I have been battling with other stuff!

low harness Nov 7, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Could be

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 8:09 PM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/df7c152e88aeef0352437eb94046d2fb/tenor.gif

vernal rose Nov 7, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Hi guys. Which is the best channel to talk about Tasmota and home assistant? Got a problem i cant work out >.<

clever mortar Nov 7, 2020, 8:36 PM

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#integrations-archived probably

dull chasm Nov 7, 2020, 8:41 PM

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@last plaza so that was confused ....i knew of your problem ..i cant believe he would make that statement and assumption without knowing the facts

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its ok @low harness we still love ya even thou you where mean to us

low harness Nov 7, 2020, 8:42 PM

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If I misunderstood I apologize.

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 8:47 PM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/a642180d8e52b635c2a3380312c70ae6/tenor.gif

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https://media.tenor.com/images/bedff4c6b6dc22ee99878be6fb7b3678/tenor.gif

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 9:04 PM

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Lol just noticed the horrible automatic translation in home assistant to Norwegian

clever mortar Nov 7, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Can I interest you in some https://developers.home-assistant.io/docs/translations?
😛

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 9:05 PM

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"Last inn innputt bolske på nytt" which would be something like "reload innputt boolies"

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Psssh, let the bastards who want norwegian have it

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smart

scenic radish Nov 7, 2020, 9:06 PM

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"reload flippy bois"

earnest prairie Nov 7, 2020, 9:07 PM

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Hey everyone, would this be a suitable place to ask for recommendations on what device to install Home Assistant on? (Total beginner) I was looking at potentially getting an old Dell Wyse Thin Client instead of a Raspberry Pi, I was wondering if anyone uses one and could recommend?

scenic radish Nov 7, 2020, 9:08 PM

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No, but #hardware-archived or #general-archived would be a good spot

earnest prairie Nov 7, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Thank you

scenic radish Nov 7, 2020, 9:08 PM

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(but almost anything other than a pi would be better)

clever mortar Nov 7, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Except, possiby, an Etch-a-Sketch

earnest prairie Nov 7, 2020, 9:09 PM

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I'll go to #hardware-archived

scenic radish Nov 7, 2020, 9:09 PM

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Good point, any computer rather

tidal bronze Nov 7, 2020, 9:46 PM

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What's the smallest wifi switch out there now? Sonoff mini shelly etc ?

umbral agate Nov 7, 2020, 10:03 PM

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Hey all.

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Dunno which channel to put this in, I'll ask here.

Anyone know of any alternatives to ngrok, but free (or cheaper)? I'm looking for some sort of tunnel to localhost which allows me to access the web interface from anywhere, outside my network.

Rather than conventional port forwarding, I would prefer a tunnel approach as my raspi does not require a static IP.

dull chasm Nov 7, 2020, 10:08 PM

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@low harness you need to make a custom card like this https://smithtractorco.com/Package-Specials

Specials | Smith Tractor Co.

Save monthly on John Deere equipment specials and packaged deals.

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never saw anything like that before

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pretty neat

clever mortar Nov 7, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Why not just run a VPN server at home?

forest edge Nov 7, 2020, 10:11 PM

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@dull chasm got ya some tractor buddies you hang around with and talk plow with?

dull chasm Nov 7, 2020, 10:11 PM

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no pervert

light trout Nov 7, 2020, 10:13 PM

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https://community.home-assistant.io/t/lovelace-swiper-card/72447 @dull chasm like that?

dull belfry Nov 7, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Before I go and purchase this device, I want to confirm that it will work. According to https://community.home-assistant.io/t/stream-component-confirmed-cameras-and-configurations/106729 if my IP camera is listed with JPEG & FFMPEG it will work with HA https://www.ispyconnect.com/man.aspx?n=Imou Will a Imou bullet lite work?

Home Assistant Community

Stream Component: Confirmed Cameras and Configurations

General Below is a list of confirmed cameras and configurations that work with the new Home Assistant Stream component. Please comment below with your configuration if you have had success and it does not already appear in this list. Finding your camera’s streams If your cam...

Connect to Imou IP cameras

Use our free wizard to generate a Imou IP camera URL for streaming video

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This is probably the wrong place to ask but nobody was responding in # cameras

umbral agate Nov 7, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Why not just run a VPN server at home?
@clever mortar still requires some firewall changes. I change routers a lot, so I want to make my setup as zeroconfig as possible

dull chasm Nov 7, 2020, 10:14 PM

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@light trout thats pretty close.... not as pretty ...

clever mortar Nov 7, 2020, 10:15 PM

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There's various thinks like ZeroTier that handle that

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Alternatively, don't change routers that much 😛

forest edge Nov 7, 2020, 10:16 PM

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need moar john deere!

umbral agate Nov 7, 2020, 10:16 PM

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There's various thinks like ZeroTier that handle that
@clever mortar will Google that

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Still doesn't look exactly like what I want.

I would still like to use Google assistant, so I'll need home assistant accessible on my own domain, without tinkering with a VPN and such

clever mortar Nov 7, 2020, 10:20 PM

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cloud

dull chasm Nov 7, 2020, 10:21 PM

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rain

clever mortar Nov 7, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Hellfire?

dull chasm Nov 7, 2020, 10:21 PM

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brimstone!

clever mortar Nov 7, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Well, with the way 2020 has gone ... I'd not be shocked

dull chasm Nov 7, 2020, 10:22 PM

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be carefull ...we have a watcher

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got in trouble earlier

clever mortar Nov 7, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Pretty sure COVID-19 is neither politics or religion. At least, I really hope it's neither 🤔

forest edge Nov 7, 2020, 10:25 PM

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its all the above

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you name it, it's covid

clever mortar Nov 7, 2020, 10:26 PM

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You?

forest edge Nov 7, 2020, 10:26 PM

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covid

clever mortar Nov 7, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Damn

deft pewter Nov 7, 2020, 10:32 PM

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So it's no longer all prison?

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 10:34 PM

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@clever mortar all hail lord Covid, my Shepard, I will vote him out when I can

clever mortar Nov 7, 2020, 10:34 PM

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From what was said before, that should have been:

@wild moss covid covid covid covid, covid covid, covid covid covid covid covid covid covid covid

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 10:35 PM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/fac9dae383eadf9af2e0ebe14b0d7314/tenor.gif

last plaza Nov 7, 2020, 10:43 PM

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There is only one good thing that happened in 2020.

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Work from home 😊

forest edge Nov 7, 2020, 10:50 PM

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winter bellies during summer wasn't too bad either

deft pewter Nov 7, 2020, 10:51 PM

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What's a winter belly? I carry this thing around all year.

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 10:53 PM

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My fat ass should get more exercise

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But the only exercise I enjoy is swimming

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Which is.... Very restricted during covid

forest edge Nov 7, 2020, 10:54 PM

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covid allowed atx to reach his final form

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waist line over 9000!

clear ferry Nov 7, 2020, 10:54 PM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/e1ddb54485529b75105f7287f4f8397a/tenor.gif

forest edge Nov 7, 2020, 10:55 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/fat-guy-gif-4180862

Tenor

Fat guy dancing

▶ Play video

errant bough Nov 7, 2020, 11:27 PM

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Anybody use moisture sensors for houseplants? I am just terrible with plants and wondering if a moisture sensor would reliably tell me when I should water

deft pewter Nov 7, 2020, 11:28 PM

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I use the Aqara ones. They're okay. But now that I know how to care for the plants, I don't think I need the sensors anymore.

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There's no point having sensors tell you something's too wet/dry if you don't know what counts as too wet/dry.

hearty depot Nov 7, 2020, 11:30 PM

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I have a swich which I press whenever I waterd the plants.
when I not press it in 3 days I ll get a alexa notification triggerd by motion

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quite anoying

errant bough Nov 7, 2020, 11:30 PM

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Yeah I figure I'd get used to the schedule quickly anyway. I'd like to find out when to water besides a very droopy plant, but like you're saying I'd probably just find out when to water before finding out what measurements are the point of watering

deft pewter Nov 7, 2020, 11:34 PM

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You water plants every 3 days? Some of mine only need watering once a month 😄

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Another one needs it almost daily.

hearty depot Nov 7, 2020, 11:35 PM

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not all of them of cause, but they surrive at least 3 days

deft pewter Nov 7, 2020, 11:39 PM

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I have a couple of carniverous plants that would shrivel up and die if I left them that long. Especially my sundew plant.

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The butterwort is a little more forgiving.

tidal bronze Nov 7, 2020, 11:44 PM

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@forest edge you need to really work on your footwork

hearty depot Nov 7, 2020, 11:45 PM

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bigger pots is the secret in my household, but most of the stuff I got is super forgiving

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like there suckers
we call them scheidenblatt (vaginaleaves?)
you dont water them for 2 weeks, nothing happens, they just look a little sad

📎 spathiphyllum-1.png

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sheath leaf, booooring english name 🤣

deft pewter Nov 7, 2020, 11:49 PM

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Peace lily?

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I love your first translation though 🤣

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I have a Calathea on my desk. It hasn't flowered yet but it's really cool. Top side of the leaves are a dark green, underside is a deep burgundy red. The leaves 'open' and 'close' each day, makes it look like it's putting hands together to pray.

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Not my picture:

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📎 calathea-rufibarba-elgergrass-p4696-37277_zoom.png

hushed basalt Nov 8, 2020, 12:47 AM

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The rental I'm in has the entire reticulation running off one solenoid

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No master solenoid either

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Everything either gets too much water or not enough

errant bough Nov 8, 2020, 12:51 AM

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Peace lily is what I am trying to find out how to water rn

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Gonna repot it to a pot with drainage holes so I can make sure it doesn't get waterlogged

forest edge Nov 8, 2020, 1:51 AM

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https://www.pcgamer.com/meet-the-team-who-dedicated-10-years-to-building-middle-earth-in-minecraft/

pcgamer

Meet the team who dedicated 10 years to building Middle-earth in Mi...

One server to rule them all.

hushed basalt Nov 8, 2020, 2:27 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/flying-flying-dragon-fire-burning-fire-breathing-dragon-gif-14078260

Tenor

last cedar Nov 8, 2020, 9:29 AM

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Is that smaug?

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 9:46 AM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/ecaf7e42e9d52d931cf3b6feadacda4f/tenor.gif

low harness Nov 8, 2020, 9:56 AM

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What's that? A gif for ants?

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 10:22 AM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/e3f65cd91017c9e08ebd475ec4b0fd65/tenor.gif

last cedar Nov 8, 2020, 10:51 AM

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Smol

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 10:55 AM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/36ad4869b46543b58f506c14cd4750c8/tenor.gif

deft pewter Nov 8, 2020, 11:52 AM

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"I don't think it was very little" - Not Mrs atx

midnight adder Nov 8, 2020, 12:04 PM

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Guys

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Hello

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Does anyone use manjaro here?

umbral agate Nov 8, 2020, 12:04 PM

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Nah

midnight adder Nov 8, 2020, 12:05 PM

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😦

clever mortar Nov 8, 2020, 12:05 PM

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Maybe there's an actual question though?

umbral agate Nov 8, 2020, 12:05 PM

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Why would you use any arch-based distro tho?

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 12:05 PM

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Manjaro user base is probably very low

midnight adder Nov 8, 2020, 12:05 PM

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Wifi just crashed

clever mortar Nov 8, 2020, 12:05 PM

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Have you tried throwing it out the window yet?

umbral agate Nov 8, 2020, 12:05 PM

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+1

midnight adder Nov 8, 2020, 12:05 PM

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still

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If this setup doesn't work

umbral agate Nov 8, 2020, 12:05 PM

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Restart wpasupplicant or whatever Manjaro uses

midnight adder Nov 8, 2020, 12:05 PM

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what flavour

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should i go for @umbral agate @clever mortar

clever mortar Nov 8, 2020, 12:06 PM

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Ubuntu for desktop, Debian for server (or FreeBSD)

umbral agate Nov 8, 2020, 12:06 PM

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Debian for desktop

midnight adder Nov 8, 2020, 12:06 PM

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laptop?

umbral agate Nov 8, 2020, 12:06 PM

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Ubuntu never

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Lol

clever mortar Nov 8, 2020, 12:06 PM

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Laptop is just a portable desktop 😉

midnight adder Nov 8, 2020, 12:06 PM

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best results for battery lifwe

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Ubuntu is nic

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but I stopped using from a while

umbral agate Nov 8, 2020, 12:07 PM

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Ubuntu is basically Debian with less stability, and canonical spying on you.

Change my mind

midnight adder Nov 8, 2020, 12:07 PM

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exactly

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that is why I dont want to use it

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 12:09 PM

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Mmmmmm tinfoil people

midnight adder Nov 8, 2020, 12:09 PM

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hey dont eat us

umbral agate Nov 8, 2020, 12:09 PM

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For laptop I would go with debian, but don't install gnome

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Go with a more lightweight DE

midnight adder Nov 8, 2020, 12:09 PM

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KDE

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PLASMA

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ME LIKE

umbral agate Nov 8, 2020, 12:09 PM

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Lel

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 12:10 PM

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Gnome stopped being good around 2004, KDE since

midnight adder Nov 8, 2020, 12:10 PM

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u use KDE?

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 12:10 PM

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Yes

midnight adder Nov 8, 2020, 12:10 PM

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interesting

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I shall try manjaro for the next following week

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if nothing good happens

umbral agate Nov 8, 2020, 12:11 PM

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I still like gnome, with a ton of extensions it looks pretty alright.

midnight adder Nov 8, 2020, 12:11 PM

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I'm switching to debian

umbral agate Nov 8, 2020, 12:11 PM

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But for laptop, I always prefer something lightweight

Unless you have a somewhat beefy laptop / not a literal potato like most of my laptops lel

midnight adder Nov 8, 2020, 12:11 PM

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imagine centos on a lap

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xD

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 12:11 PM

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Well yes

deft pewter Nov 8, 2020, 12:11 PM

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Why has lounge suddenly devolved into sentence fragments?

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 12:12 PM

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@umbral agate 4core i7 with Nvme and 48g ram beefy enough?

umbral agate Nov 8, 2020, 12:12 PM

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Why has lounge suddenly devolved into sentence fragments?
@deft pewter just cuz

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 12:12 PM

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@deft pewter just cuz

umbral agate Nov 8, 2020, 12:12 PM

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@umbral agate 4core i7 with Nvme and 48g ram beefy enough?
@clear ferry yes

midnight adder Nov 8, 2020, 12:13 PM

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i got me a huawei lap

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proceeded to delete windows

patent bloom Nov 8, 2020, 12:13 PM

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Alpine if you want lightweight and secure....

midnight adder Nov 8, 2020, 12:14 PM

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thought manjaro will be nice

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 12:14 PM

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I agree with tink, Ubuntu for desktop and Debian for servers

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Or if you go enterprise, sles

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But I'm biased

midnight adder Nov 8, 2020, 12:14 PM

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sles?

clever mortar Nov 8, 2020, 12:15 PM

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Haven't played with SLES in a loooooooong time

midnight adder Nov 8, 2020, 12:15 PM

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Solaris?

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 12:15 PM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/0f245c601788209c5dfc69bef40de6b3/tenor.gif

velvet horizonBOT Nov 8, 2020, 12:15 PM

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:point_up: Let me Google that for you...

Here , try this:
http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=sles

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 12:15 PM

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Solaris

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The inferior Unix

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Hpux crew representing

clever mortar Nov 8, 2020, 12:15 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/angry-anger-pixar-inside-out-aaah-gif-5628546

Tenor

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 12:16 PM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/edbe7ccb3fbd5d9aa5709ada7285f71c/tenor.gif

clever mortar Nov 8, 2020, 12:16 PM

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Their hardware kicked ass though 😉

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 12:16 PM

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When it was still sun sure

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After oracle, meh

clever mortar Nov 8, 2020, 12:16 PM

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Yeah, well, I don't count Oracle

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Only thing Oracle seems to be good for is ramping up prices and suing folks...

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 12:17 PM

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So, like any American entrepreneurship then

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With their cyborg CEO too

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Finally got the cover on my overwinter greenhouse

📎 20201108_133000.jpg

deft pewter Nov 8, 2020, 12:31 PM

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Wouldn't it be easier to just have pet rocks?

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 12:35 PM

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Don't get tomatoes from pet rocks!

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smart

midnight adder Nov 8, 2020, 12:47 PM

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I am downloafding debian

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manjaro too much probs

last cedar Nov 8, 2020, 1:07 PM

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@deft pewter pet rocks are the 2nd best pet

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1st best is le trash panda

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 1:07 PM

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For desktop I would go ubuntu for simplicity and any problems you might encounter someone has already fixed it @midnight adder

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Debian is nice if you know exactly what you are doing

last cedar Nov 8, 2020, 1:07 PM

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I will 2nd Ubuntu

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I am a bloody moron when it comes to Linux

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 1:07 PM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/9579cfcdeddd4c9973996574af8632fe/tenor.gif

last cedar Nov 8, 2020, 1:07 PM

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And I got it working

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Without fire coming out of anything

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I currently have an ubuntu server running my pihole, going to build it into opnsense though when I reinstall

midnight adder Nov 8, 2020, 1:11 PM

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@clear ferry non free drivers are what is causing this

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also, If i download the iso + non-free will it install them firectly

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 1:12 PM

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Eh, probably more related to shitty hardware tbh, although Huawei should be decent

midnight adder Nov 8, 2020, 1:13 PM

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it use lw wiifi

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iwlwifi microcode

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 1:14 PM

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No issues with Intel WiFi here in either my Chromebook or my zbook

midnight adder Nov 8, 2020, 1:14 PM

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Tried it on the meatebook d, it directly said need non-free drivers

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 1:15 PM

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Yes you do

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Or depends on the actual chip probably

midnight adder Nov 8, 2020, 1:15 PM

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I wish i could open and show

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but I'll probably change

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once wifi 6 comes out

last cedar Nov 8, 2020, 1:34 PM

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Ethernet is the best sort of wifi

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change my mind

deft pewter Nov 8, 2020, 1:34 PM

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All the Fi, none of the Wi.

last cedar Nov 8, 2020, 1:34 PM

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Less cables to chew with wifi

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Cable chewing is one of my favorite activities

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One of those monster underwater fiber cables is top of my bucket list atm

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But not worked out how I can have breathing aparatus and chew the cable

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yet

clever mortar Nov 8, 2020, 1:38 PM

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Breathe with your nose - should be an easy if uncomfortable modification to the SCUBA gear

last cedar Nov 8, 2020, 1:40 PM

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Omg that is ingenious

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Thank you

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If anyones internet goes out soon. It wasn't me

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But seriously. Wifi is fantastic. It is just such a pity that it is so easily made worse by interference and by building materials.

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It would be great if it was strong microwaves that penetrated everything and warmed you up if you got too close

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Maybe mesh systems are the answer. Or multiple access points, over building in ao much speed into a router with wifi

clever mortar Nov 8, 2020, 1:44 PM

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Multiple APs IMO

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(aka the way that it's done commercially)

last cedar Nov 8, 2020, 1:45 PM

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Like. You have light bulbs in every room. Because light doesn't go through walls. Probably should be like that with wifi

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We make 1 ap work in out 94m2 appartment

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Defo need more when we move

deft pewter Nov 8, 2020, 1:45 PM

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WiFi doesn't go through walls well... it's already like light 😄

dusky plank Nov 8, 2020, 1:46 PM

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5g less than 2.4

last cedar Nov 8, 2020, 1:46 PM

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Yeah, I know

clever mortar Nov 8, 2020, 1:46 PM

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There has been some work done on that kind of setup - high frequency that doesn't penetrate well, it's pretty much LoS though

patent bloom Nov 8, 2020, 1:59 PM

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Use commercial AP's, I'm going with the Unifi AP Pros. As it is now, you step outside my house and lose WiFi. I live in an unintentional faraday cage....

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 2:03 PM

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Unifi 🤢

scenic radish Nov 8, 2020, 2:07 PM

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atxbyea 🤢

last cedar Nov 8, 2020, 2:07 PM

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I have a TP link atm

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Been solid

scenic radish Nov 8, 2020, 2:07 PM

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I like my unifi AP

last cedar Nov 8, 2020, 2:07 PM

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Eap245

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 2:11 PM

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🤢

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Welcome to silent hill

📎 20201108_151138.jpg

last cedar Nov 8, 2020, 2:15 PM

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Scary

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I spy a Volvo

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 2:16 PM

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Yaaaaaaas

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https://media.tenor.com/images/f6326ee03c2e20a29987abcf67892a52/tenor.gif

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I didn't stray far though, it has a 5cyl Audi engine in it

low harness Nov 8, 2020, 2:21 PM

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I was playing Tomb Raider the other day a propos psx games. 3D game controlls sure have come a long way.

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 2:21 PM

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Yes, although the original ps controller was great

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Compared to most other controllers at the time

low harness Nov 8, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Oh yes

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I’ve never held an n64 controller with an analog stick that didn’t move on its own.

deft pewter Nov 8, 2020, 2:25 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/hands-creepy-ttv-poltergeist-gif-9805966

Tenor

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 2:26 PM

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N64 was like.... Someone had babies with their brother for three generations and then lost an arm or three in the war

last cedar Nov 8, 2020, 2:26 PM

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I think the inline 5s are the best sounding volves anyway atxbyea :)

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 2:27 PM

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Aye, this one has a sport exhaust too

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But yeah, the Audi 5cyls are some of the most interesting engines of all time

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The Japs had some cool v6s during the 90s though

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American engines at the time were... Horrible for the most part, unless you wanted a lorry or just use 4x as much gas with no fun

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Audi v6s were a lot of issues with, but I've had three, and I loved them all, while also hating them

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Hope I get to try a W12 at some point

dull chasm Nov 8, 2020, 2:32 PM

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american enigines horrible i beg to differ

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 2:33 PM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/45864b0fab6b90a84605ffbb610f6944/tenor.gif

dull chasm Nov 8, 2020, 2:34 PM

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always have had more bhp per ci than any other

scenic radish Nov 8, 2020, 2:34 PM

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And more issues per mile 😛

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 2:35 PM

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🤣

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And less mpg then any other

clever mortar Nov 8, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Solves the problem of more power by simply adding more CC to the engine ✅

dull chasm Nov 8, 2020, 2:49 PM

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@scenic radish not by any means ...

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@clever mortar we do ci not cc ....duh

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on small little engines like atvs and weedeaters we use cc

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we have started do liters ...like my engine in truck is 5.0 liters but everybody still calls it a 302ci

scenic radish Nov 8, 2020, 3:06 PM

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i've definitely always talked about displacement in liters

deft pewter Nov 8, 2020, 3:08 PM

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But muh freedom units!

scenic radish Nov 8, 2020, 3:08 PM

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ironically i'd have no clue what someone was talking about if they used cubic inches

deft pewter Nov 8, 2020, 3:08 PM

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Yeah, kinda weird anyone's still using imperial still

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 3:08 PM

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Cubic inches makes sense on 50-60 year old cars

scenic radish Nov 8, 2020, 3:09 PM

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ffs i wish the US used metric for everything. i use imperial for most things, but i use metric for computing

deft pewter Nov 8, 2020, 3:09 PM

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I wish the UK would stop using them completely. We switched a ton of stuff over but still do speed/distance in miles. 😦

scenic radish Nov 8, 2020, 3:09 PM

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yeah you guys are weird over there

deft pewter Nov 8, 2020, 3:10 PM

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It's a pain. I have zero clue why we didn't change the roads at the same time we changed all other measures.

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It's not like cars don't have dual dials on them...

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 3:16 PM

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The most confusing part about driving in the UK and us is how far it is to an off ramp

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Because I don't do miles in my head

deft pewter Nov 8, 2020, 3:18 PM

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I just assume I'll be travelling roughly 60mph and that makes it a mile a minute. Easy, now all your exits can be measured in minutes.

wet pilot Nov 8, 2020, 3:20 PM

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I usually start getting over to the exit lane 2mi out and that works out most times

scenic radish Nov 8, 2020, 3:22 PM

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same

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 3:22 PM

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Actually the whole miles thing is more confusing than the reverse roundabouts in the UK

wet pilot Nov 8, 2020, 3:22 PM

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I imagine trying to do that at 2km would be way too late 😛

last cedar Nov 8, 2020, 3:22 PM

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No

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The roundabouts are correct in the UK

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The rest of the world drives on the wrong side

wet pilot Nov 8, 2020, 3:23 PM

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The rest of the world begs to differ

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 3:24 PM

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Does the us even have roundabouts?

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Or just add four freeways?

last cedar Nov 8, 2020, 3:25 PM

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Why do you think it is called right hand drive?

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 3:25 PM

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And some McDonald's?

last cedar Nov 8, 2020, 3:25 PM

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Because it is right

wet pilot Nov 8, 2020, 3:25 PM

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@clear ferry there are a bunch but most people don't really know how to use them

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 3:26 PM

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I don't think I've ever seen one in the us, in any travel or any TV show

last plaza Nov 8, 2020, 3:26 PM

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We got roundabouts everywhere now

wet pilot Nov 8, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Not super common and are typically used for smaller intersections that were originally 4-way stops

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Or a 2-way stop that became too busy to handle the load

last plaza Nov 8, 2020, 3:27 PM

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If you look at the maps in cities, you will find them a lot.

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 3:28 PM

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The UK roundabouts are pretty strange though, 5-6 stop lights inside some of them

last cedar Nov 8, 2020, 3:28 PM

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Confession time, I was born in the UK, live there for 21 years and moved to Sweden. Took driving licence in Sweden, everyone drives on the wrong side.

last plaza Nov 8, 2020, 3:28 PM

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In our county, they are slowly converting all 4-way to roundabouts.

wet pilot Nov 8, 2020, 3:28 PM

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Yeah, cities fuck them up though with stop signs and lights. Looking at you DC

last cedar Nov 8, 2020, 3:29 PM

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Damn

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 3:29 PM

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I drove over a roundabout like that in winter once @last cedar

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With 3meters of snow I couldn't even see it

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Just followed the tracks of the snowmobiles

last cedar Nov 8, 2020, 3:30 PM

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https://metro.co.uk/video/this-not-approach-roundabout-1761820/?ito=vjs-link

Metro

This how NOT to approach a roundabout

This is the moment a van goes hurtling in the air after hitting the cambered edge of a roundabout.

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 3:30 PM

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This was in northern Sweden

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No shock there

last cedar Nov 8, 2020, 3:30 PM

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There we go

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Wow, that must have been scary

scenic radish Nov 8, 2020, 3:30 PM

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And awesome

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 3:30 PM

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Not really, it was a lower one, with no edge

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Just went straight through

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Noticed a little bump

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🤣

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Audi Quattro just plowed through it

deft pewter Nov 8, 2020, 3:34 PM

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Northern Sweden has the same road signs and registration plates as the UK? 😮

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 3:34 PM

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No, my driving

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🤏

deft pewter Nov 8, 2020, 3:36 PM

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I thought you were commenting on the video, my bad

scenic radish Nov 8, 2020, 3:36 PM

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Unacceptable

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 3:37 PM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/eab68d5127bb19b8383c75757ede00ab/tenor.gif

deft pewter Nov 8, 2020, 3:41 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/princessbride-inconceivable-gif-5156858

Tenor

clever mortar Nov 8, 2020, 3:42 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/princess-bride-you-keep-using-that-word-i-dont-think-it-means-what-you-think-it-means-gif-15708582

Tenor

deft pewter Nov 8, 2020, 3:46 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/yes-nod-princess-bride-albino-nodding-gif-12230595

Tenor

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Wonder why my circadian lighting has stopped adjusting the lights in my living room 🧐

dull chasm Nov 8, 2020, 4:14 PM

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i have noticed same but havent troubleshooted it yet

clever mortar Nov 8, 2020, 4:14 PM

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Circadian still working fine here 🤷

static schooner Nov 8, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Elections have Consequences

dull chasm Nov 8, 2020, 4:15 PM

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well of course that is always the answer

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not my pc

clever mortar Nov 8, 2020, 4:15 PM

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It's almost certainly a layer 8 issue

cinder heart Nov 8, 2020, 4:42 PM

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Completely new to HA here and want to integrate it with zwave. I run HA in docker in server-room and I have a remote rpi with razberry hat. Where can I find instruction in how to set this up?

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 4:44 PM

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@clever mortar but i have trancended the layer 8 to become one with layer 10

clever mortar Nov 8, 2020, 4:45 PM

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See #zwave-archived for help with Z-Wave @cinder heart - and the Docker docs for passing devices through to the container ( #449717345808547842 for that bit if you're stuck)

dull chasm Nov 8, 2020, 4:49 PM

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dang i was fixing to bragg on tink ...but here it comes

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since i am smart i will do first

velvet horizonBOT Nov 8, 2020, 4:49 PM

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cinder heart Nov 8, 2020, 4:50 PM

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@clever mortar thank you, I'll check it out. "Passing devices through" sounds like local connectivity on the same machine. In my case the machine running the HA container and the zwave rpi is a remote machine.

clever mortar Nov 8, 2020, 4:50 PM

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Well, then if you're using OZW it doesn't matter

dull chasm Nov 8, 2020, 4:50 PM

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you are welcome

wanton bobcat Nov 8, 2020, 5:31 PM

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@clear ferry To experiment, I setup a corporate VLAN with Unifi, and then created a firewall rule (LAN In) to drop all traffic from IOT VLAN to LAN. I got my Roborock connected to the IOT network. Now I want to open up a single port between the Roborock and my iPhone (that is on the LAN network), so that I can access the Roborock/Valeutdo interface on my iPhone. Having trouble figure out the correct firewall rule for this -

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I created a new rule of LAN In "Accept" on protocol 80, with source being my iPhone IP and destination being the IP of the Roborock on the IOT network, but I get connection timed out when I actually try it.

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Any thoughts on the best way to set this up, or why this isn't working?

wanton bobcat Nov 8, 2020, 5:53 PM

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This is an example. My iPhone is on my default LAN network.

📎 example.PNG

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 5:56 PM

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You need probably both rules on both nets

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I don't know how unifi does rules though 🤢

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Also remember what I said about reading firewall logs smart

wanton bobcat Nov 8, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Got it working - basically I needed to drop the two specific port 80 rules, and then create a new rule allowing established or related connections through from IOT to LAN. Now my roborock can't ping any device on my LAN network, but I can establish a connection with it via my iPhone.

clear ferry Nov 8, 2020, 7:00 PM

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Learning

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https://media.tenor.com/images/2a815e877c0a827e885fbe3bb4e0a478/tenor.gif

last cedar Nov 8, 2020, 9:07 PM

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Why is it reading backwards?

upper apex Nov 8, 2020, 11:03 PM

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need nerd advice

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buying a gaming monitor

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300mhz with 3ms response and no gysnc

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or

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360mhz with 5ms response with gysnc

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sooo dang tough.....

forest edge Nov 8, 2020, 11:17 PM

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gsync/freesync every time

upper apex Nov 8, 2020, 11:17 PM

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even over a higher response time though

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its kills me to go higher on response time

forest edge Nov 8, 2020, 11:18 PM

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yea so the naked eye can really only see so much lol

upper apex Nov 8, 2020, 11:18 PM

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so my other thing i guess

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its a 2080 super..

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so if im not running north of 360 frames would it mattter

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https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/gaming-laptops/alienware-area-51m-r2-gaming-laptop/spd/alienware-area51m-r2-laptop/wn51mr240s?view=configurations&configurationid=3541a5da-1242-4c23-bd87-d24fcd1389a0

Dell

Alienware Area 51m R2 17-Inch Gaming Laptop | Dell USA

World’s only gaming laptop with upgradeable and overclockable graphics and desktop CPU. Featuring 10th Gen Intel Core i9K processors.

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this is what im looking at and it has two monitor options

forest edge Nov 8, 2020, 11:20 PM

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depends on your bionic eyes i suppose. while people can easily differentiate 60fps to 120fps etc, when you get to like 240ish you gotta really be a cyborg

upper apex Nov 8, 2020, 11:21 PM

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yeah ive gone frome 60hz to 240hz and could def tell the difference

forest edge Nov 8, 2020, 11:21 PM

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type of game and how good your eyes are really determine the refresh rates effectiveness(noticable) in games

upper apex Nov 8, 2020, 11:21 PM

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im more worried about the sacrificing response time for gysnc and another additional 60hz.

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rust, COD, apex, PUBG, tarkov

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mostly FPS gaames

forest edge Nov 8, 2020, 11:22 PM

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someone posted this graphic on reddit which should give you an idea https://www.blurbusters.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/lag-csgo.png

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that like first gen gsync too, that has improved since then

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so I stand by the gsync/freesync every time comment lol

upper apex Nov 8, 2020, 11:26 PM

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nice

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thanks for the share

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guess 360hz gsync it is

upper apex Nov 8, 2020, 11:46 PM

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guess the way i look at it though.. if im not gonna run north of 360fps then gysnc will kick in and lower my refresh rate to match my frames

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if im only running say 250 fps say... then wouldnt the 300hz and lower response time be better since I wont be able to even take advantage of 360hz? lol

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so dang complicated

forest edge Nov 9, 2020, 12:04 AM

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its really not complicated. companies flood the market with crap making claims of crap that really don't impact the experience the game as much as they try and brain wash people to believe

deft pewter Nov 9, 2020, 12:04 AM

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It's kinda cute people think they can see the difference 🤷‍♂️

scenic radish Nov 9, 2020, 12:05 AM

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I'd be hard pressed to believe anyone can honestly see the difference above 120fps

deft pewter Nov 9, 2020, 12:05 AM

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It's an odd thing to try to feel superior about too

scenic radish Nov 9, 2020, 12:05 AM

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30 to 60, absolutely. 60 to 120, sure. 120+? Doubt

forest edge Nov 9, 2020, 12:06 AM

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think linus did a video about 240fps. and even though the staff couldn't see the difference they were able to freeze frame and show there was

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you really gotta be bionic to be able to use it to your advanatge tho if you could see it

upper apex Nov 9, 2020, 12:07 AM

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i agree i cant see the difference in 300 and 360hz

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but do i care about that response time though

deft pewter Nov 9, 2020, 12:08 AM

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When are we going to see you win eSports leagues?

forest edge Nov 9, 2020, 12:08 AM

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thats another thing, you can't see the diffrence lol

deft pewter Nov 9, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Higher res? Great. Bigger panels? Great.

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Most other specs are just marketing gimmicks.

forest edge Nov 9, 2020, 12:10 AM

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hell mice have been around 5ms for a very long time and people can't see the delay in the cursor lol

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and the you think you can tell a diffrence between 3ms and 5ms? lol

deft pewter Nov 9, 2020, 12:11 AM

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Yeah, no-one can react to milliseconds.

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But anyone that thinks they can is the target audience for all that overpriced crap, right? 😄

light trout Nov 9, 2020, 12:11 AM

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Just add RGB, or download more RAM

upper apex Nov 9, 2020, 12:15 AM

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https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/gaming-laptops/alienware-area-51m-r2-gaming-laptop/spd/alienware-area51m-r2-laptop/wn51mr240s?view=configurations&configurationid=99f03d9a-8490-44d8-a46e-517781d782a1

Dell

Alienware Area 51m R2 17-Inch Gaming Laptop | Dell USA

World’s only gaming laptop with upgradeable and overclockable graphics and desktop CPU. Featuring 10th Gen Intel Core i9K processors.

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so will this run minecraft?

deft pewter Nov 9, 2020, 12:16 AM

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Sure. Just don't try Crysis.

upper apex Nov 9, 2020, 12:16 AM

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my mom wont let me buy that

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😉

deft pewter Nov 9, 2020, 12:16 AM

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$4k for a laptop is... nuts.

upper apex Nov 9, 2020, 12:16 AM

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i know it hurts me inside

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but im in hotels most nights

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so cant carry a tower with a 3080 in it

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sniffle sniffle

deft pewter Nov 9, 2020, 12:17 AM

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The first $2k gets you something solid. I'm not sure the second $2k gets you anything meaningful on top.

upper apex Nov 9, 2020, 12:18 AM

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cooling technology

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vapor chambers and science stuff

deft pewter Nov 9, 2020, 12:19 AM

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🤷‍♂️

upper apex Nov 9, 2020, 12:21 AM

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and a alien ware logo is $1700

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expensive foil sticker

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but gives you an additional 15fps

deft pewter Nov 9, 2020, 12:22 AM

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More frames you won't notice 🤣

upper apex Nov 9, 2020, 12:22 AM

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haha

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i used to game on our TV

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was 60hz and who knows what response time

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couldnt figure out why i sucked.. thought it was cause i was getting older and these kids were running laps on me

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then bought a desk and a monitor. 1ms monitor and 240hz

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felt like I was cheating

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thats when I realized the micro stutters and response time was hurting me

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but agree I probably couldnt tell the difference in anything over 120hz

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and then there is the fact that I still am getting older by the day and I still suck at games

light trout Nov 9, 2020, 12:26 AM

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Your network limits you more than your monitor ever can if you are not playing in a LAN setting

deft pewter Nov 9, 2020, 12:27 AM

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But he's got 'evidence' that all this marketing stuff works.

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It's not controlling for one very important variable though... time. All those additional hours of practise.

light trout Nov 9, 2020, 12:28 AM

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Well sure, technically it does, but not to a degree that anyone would benefit from

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Humans are too slow

deft pewter Nov 9, 2020, 12:28 AM

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Anyway... it's his money. He's welcome to part with it 🙂

green inlet Nov 9, 2020, 1:04 AM

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If you see it, and it seems real, don’t judge, cause it just might be

night zodiac Nov 9, 2020, 1:41 AM

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lol, y'all are funny

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120 to 144 is pretty noticeable for me, 144 to 240 hz is not a huge difference to me but it's there, I'm buying a 360hz but don't plan on seeing much difference that what a 144hz would look like

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the difference between 144 and 360 isn't big at all and not worth much if you're worried about 'er

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the game I play is 128 updates per second but the refresh rate is very useful just for the fast motions

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I just want one of the high refresh IPS panels they have now, alienware is coming out with a fancy 1440p one but I will probably just get something 1080p like usualy

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who is using a 5ms mouse, lol

forest edge Nov 9, 2020, 1:58 AM

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who is using a 5ms mouse, lol
@night zodiac it's irrelevant since it takes you longer to press the mouse button. the point is you were conflicted over a 3ms to 5ms difference in monitor response time which again you would never be able to see.

night zodiac Nov 9, 2020, 2:20 AM

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that isn't what I am asking. who is using their mouse at that low of a hz

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who is buying a monitor based off of response time?

hushed basalt Nov 9, 2020, 2:33 AM

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Whelp my server ded

night zodiac Nov 9, 2020, 2:34 AM

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oh no

hushed basalt Nov 9, 2020, 2:34 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/dead-out-spongebob-bury-cartoon-gif-4878270

Tenor

night zodiac Nov 9, 2020, 2:34 AM

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did you kill it with inputs or did it take itself out?

hushed basalt Nov 9, 2020, 2:34 AM

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Died this morning at about 5.30,

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No lights, nada

night zodiac Nov 9, 2020, 2:34 AM

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tested the PSU yet?

hushed basalt Nov 9, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Power supply checks ok with paperclip test and even a bunch of drives spinning off it