Törskän
#the-water-cooler
clear ferry
tame cove
wish we could flash an old ipad with linux 😛
low harness
We all do. We all do.
tame cove
i think i'm going to use a raspberry touchscreen to contorl my HA
tame cove
yes i saw that one too , the thing is that i couldn't find a 'easy 2 use 'wall mount' for it , yet
deft pewter
There have been plenty of suggestions for stuff like that in #hardware-archived
calm crow
Any where i can view gallerys of peoples lovelace?
Or even how they have their touchscreen controls
The reddit 👽 seems to be mostly text
night zodiac
I think I have to disable pstate to set a minimum clock statically but I can't remember
deft pewter
Any where i can view gallerys of peoples lovelace?
@calm crow The forums
hushed basalt
Do you think an iPad 2 is useful at all,
I'm not even sure if I can run lovelace on it
shrewd oasis
Hello. Anyone know how to connect a 240v air conditioner to a Shelly 2.5? I have 2 120v lines going to the air conditioner.
forest edge
clearly says russia
dull chasm
@forest edge they are clearly jealous as much as they say about it
hushed basalt
Sure am,
elfin copper
Just installed HA for first time on Pi 4, is there a logout or just pull the power from the Pi 4? thx
elfin copper
thx so much!
empty snow
So I'm not sure where to ask this, but I'm having general issues with Home Assistant. Every single day one or more devices are simply unavailable until I reboot them and then restart HASS. Sometimes it just a lightbulb, sometime its an entire floor of devices. Sometimes its Zigbee, sometimes its ZWave, sometimes its a wifi device. No rhyme or reason other than every single day at least one device will be unavailable.
I'm at my wits end, I am coming from SmartThings and after two major outages I had to leave but at this point I'm having micro-outages every single day with Home Assistant
trail crag
@empty snow this is where everyone goes to escape discussion of HA
empty snow
any recommendations on which channel to go to?
young sigil
The one that matches your installation method.
velvet horizonBOT
static schooner
each channel as a topic that tells you what goes there
frank elk
Hi all,
For some reason that I don't know my password is no longer recognized
I still access the web interface because the token is still valid, so I also access to the terminal.
How can I change the user interface password please ?
trail crag
@frank elk #330990055533576204
frank elk
@trail crag I will post there, merci
clear ferry
So the upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04 went smooth, only apparent issue I have is with bluetooth audio two ways
paper rose
after the latest update i found alot of my entities being doubled due to mqtt autodiscovery. for alot of entities i have for example the light.woonkamer and the light.woonkamer_light
i have all my entities in yaml, i use alot of yaml files with structures in maps and files. i use advanced yaml macro's, etc. pretty content with it
are there more ppl out there that do everything in yaml and disable autodiscovery, or should i stop being such a dinosaur ?
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
I'd suggest you wander over to #integrations-archived or maybe #general-archived
hearty depot
@paper rose i feel you.. I Have to adapt automations for around 60 devices to the corresponding unprittey friendly names 💩
shy comet
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/03/oregon-drugs-decriminalize-arizona-new-jersey-marijuana Oregon becoming Amsterdam 🤔
bitter zinc
I want to make an rgb controller with an esp8266 dev board that can be controlled by HA. Is this possible?
I looked into it online but couldnt find anything
patent bloom
@shy comet - That's called "Your state on Democrats"..
last plaza
@shy comet that news has nothing to do with the picture shown. 😂
Apparently “voted”, so I guess it applies.
half dawn
is there a way somewhere to define email for person so I can use that info to send email with automation?
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
person is an Integration, so ... #integrations-archived
forest edge
lies! we are flesh and blood! this is not the matrix!
half dawn
lol, thanks
hearty depot
how to delete a VM tinkerer style
clever mortar
Heck yeah 😄
clear ferry
Lol @forest edge Norwegian news just did a jab at American statistics they actually call random people on landlines to query about polling, yeah I'm not kidding landlines in 2020
🤣
turbid stirrup
People still have those?
forest edge
many people
clever mortar
We still have ours
Admittedly the only people that call us on it are our (retired) parents
forest edge
lol
I filter a lot of crap through my landline like dr calls etc
that way the answering machine can take it and i don't get pestered when i'm out lol
low harness
We had ours just so my wifes grandmother could call us.
clear ferry
Yeah, telephone companies stopped offering them here over 10 years ago, and they started disconnecting the remaining customers in 2018
low harness
Then our 1-year old got the cord stuck around her neck, and suddenly it wasn't a problem to learn a new number.
clear ferry
They expect all landlines to be gone by 2025
low harness
We probably shouldn't have had the phone on the floor anyway...
clever mortar
We've not had a corded handset since... 25 years ago anyway
clear ferry
You can get landlines over fiber, but there isn't very much market for that for people under 80
forest edge
corded is a backup and should really only be one if any in a home
clear ferry
They started disconnecting the 3g network in 2018 too apparently, it's supposed to be gone in 2022
forest edge
@clear ferry my landline is technically provided by cable. it's not through a telephone line on the pole
turbid stirrup
Many people in the NL still have it because providers sell bundles with internet, TV and landline combined
clever mortar
Our 2G network is gone, the 3G network is still the only thing providing coverage in places 😄
low harness
We used to have a five digit number too... 43888, a really good one.
clear ferry
We still have 2g for infrastructure critical stuff
late gate
So can't update ha cause GitHub limit is reached. How fun
low harness
Unfortunately, that used to be the number to the guest harbor office five years before we got it. People kept calling asking if we had room for a 20-footer next Wednesday.
clear ferry
4g covers 98% of the country last I heard
forest edge
still don't get why norwegians are calling americans lol
you all drama queening this election up?
low harness
Funny thing is we lived by a stream where you actually Would be able to fit a 20-footer - provided you somehow got it past the mill downstream. So I used to tell them yes.
clear ferry
@forest edge they were discussing how Americans are doing their election statistics, like exit polls and automated robo calls on landlines
low harness
I even went to the harbor office once to give the number back to them, wearing an onion at my belt, seeing as it was the style at the times.
forest edge
lol
now you got me picturing wooden shoes.. whatever those things are called.. I think danish wear them
low harness
If I'm going to do the old man background monologuing, I'm gonna do it right.
clever mortar
My gran used to have a three digit phone number - the place was that small 😄
forest edge
I was picturing the ones that looked more fairy like lol
the toe part comes up in a point
like curved upward
low harness
forest edge
oh yea those look safe lmao
low harness
My parents still have a palindrome phone number. You got to pick yourself back then.
turbid stirrup
More like these?
forest edge
@turbid stirrup yea lol
tulip sundial
I am looking at moving my HA instance from an RP4 to docker on an Openmediavault server or it's own linux vm in proxmox. Reason I am considering a proxmox host is I want to get zoneminder running again I had a lot of trouble with it on openmediavault with HA. Does anyone have an recommendations?
clever mortar
Just do it?
forest edge
@clever mortar you got ble stuff, are they battery?
clever mortar
Yeah, I have one BLE thing - a Chipolo beacon
forest edge
looking at these temp sensors that are ble that has a ha component but curious how long a ble temp sensor would last on batteries
clever mortar
Zigbee FTW
forest edge
these are 7 bucks
clever mortar
So... same price as Zigbee then 😛
forest edge
well zigbee is a twofer, i need a dongle as well
forest edge
besides all the zigbee stuff i seen are like 15-20 bucks
clever mortar
Two words:
- AliExpress
- Xiaomi
forest edge
aliexpress would take a year to ship
subtle pasture
The one issue with Xiaomi stuff is it'll all desync and require re-pairing if your HA instance is offline for too long
clever mortar
24 hours...
subtle pasture
I've had it happen in 2 hours...
forest edge
zigbee just came out with an update protocol or something too, so how does that work with older stuff?
clever mortar
Zigbee 3.0 is backwards compatible with Zigbee 1.2
forest edge
oh
clever mortar
Same deal as in the Z-Wave world
wet pilot
though in the zwave world + and non + "works" but isn't ideal
forest edge
fine, let me look on bangood, that's at least only a month delivery. lets see what they list
subtle pasture
@wet pilot From what i understand, it'll all work fine if you have a zwave+ dongle and a mix of zwave and zwave+ devices
But if you have an older dongle, you might have issues with zwave+ devices
clever mortar
Nah, it works both ways
But if you have a mixed mesh it falls back to non-plus
Same deal with Zigbee 1.2 and 3.0 - runs at 1.2
wet pilot
so "works" but not ideal
clever mortar
Like most of life 😄
static schooner
it's mostly a problem if you end up routing through an older device. If it's just older "leaf" devices, it's not as big a deal
forest edge
heh they make a zigbee hat for the rpi
apparently banggood is the suck for zigbee stuff. aside from sonoff they seem to have some deal with them lol
clear ferry
Long live AliExpress
forest edge
ordering stuff and it taking so long to show up that you actually forgot you even ordered anything is just bleh lol
turbid stirrup
Is waiting for black friday worth it for Ali diy and/or "regular" smart home stuff?
clear ferry
10-14 days you say @forest edge
11.11 is usually better than black Friday @turbid stirrup
On Ali atleast
midnight adder
ahhh big day for america
clear ferry
Not yet
forest edge
10-14 days you say @forest edge
@clear ferry not for countries that don't allow anyone and anything to walk in and just do what they want lol
paper rose
in the past Ali took something like 8-12 weeks.
but now its more like 10-15 days
the shortest time for me was 5 days 
if HA goes offline for more than 24 hrs.. dont try to fix the sensors then.. fix the errors with HA 🙂
clever mortar
Next you'll be having to tell people not to lick live electrical wires 🤣
clever mortar
When I upgraded to 0.115 and a new venv it took more than 3 minutes as it had to install some more Python packages... otherwise upgrades take as long as a restart
clear ferry
Yeah, I had some issues with my venv when I migrated from 11.3 to 12, so I just spun up my HA in a docker container while fixing the venv
🤣
clear ferry
I used to lick ISDN wires to find out which were live
Connected a few phones like that
paper rose
hehe i can imagine.. i do that with top of finger (also with 230v)
because im too lazy to get the meter out
scenic radish
???
dusky plank
forest edge
long live keyboard cat anyways
clear ferry
Damn Pissco
turbid stirrup
https://bongo.cat/
@dusky plank Needs more cowbell
forest edge
watching youtube videos of people filming disney events and hearing adults yell "oh my god! oh my god!" when mickey comes on stage is very cringe
tidal bronze
@forest edge things that spike your interest 🤔 😅
clear ferry
Pissco 🤢
forest edge
@tidal bronze gotta be more involved with the world around you.
deft pewter
But the world has people in it.
tidal bronze
Yep, indeed. Watching people who film places like Disney, rather than actually having fun, should be on top of the list. Simply epic. @forest edge
forest edge
@tidal bronze don''t you spend half your time in flight and the other half installing speakers?
tidal bronze
Switching to string lights tonight. Gotta do some inline zw dimmers.
lime raft
forest edge
@lime raft what kind of spam?
quartz ether
As is @midnight adder
supple moss
Spam!
wispy wharf
Add @midnight adder to the list of spamers
supple moss
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
Screenshot + handle please folks - makes our lives a lot easier...
wicked jewel
Kid.Fresh#7182 also
light trout
okey, banning @clever mortar
clever mortar
🎉
wicked jewel
@midnight adder
forest edge
wispy wharf
@midnight adder spam
molten salmon
limber stone
@molten salmon I got the same, someone get this fool outta here.
wicked jewel
best thing to do would be to block invitation links for a couple of hours until bots stop joining the server
strong lion
Just received a similar message from @midnight adder also
round oyster
velvet horizonBOT
civic wedge
crypto spammer
round oyster
@Moros#5733
thick crypt
@peak stag
@round oyster already banned
limber stone
@midnight adder
stoic marsh
MrPoring#1810 for me
civic wedge
crimson pine
next one
Murzyn#4017
limber stone
ooof wtf
round oyster
true
deft hill
limber stone
right click / long press the server > block message invites.
it's under privacy
deft hill
should i even bother reporting to discord?
limber stone
yes
round oyster
i don't want to block others from messaging me just because botscammers try to get money, discord should do something about it for example implement a report user button
deft hill
i feel like that would get abused a ton
wet pilot
would make it easier on moderators
round oyster
if they do it right (maybe even with some AI in the background) there's not much to be abused
lucid karma
Add @toxic field to the list
deft hill
ayy i got the same one
limber stone
at this point, I'd lock the invite, let it cool off. maybe reenable it with a new code? after having like 300 people up in here, it's ... idk just me I suppose.
stone sundial
Got this from @midnight adder 683064378987118595
limber stone
best of luck to yall. It's rough out here, I don't envy you.
strong lion
I guess this is just the way all public communications on the internet work: (1) develop in obscurity, (2) gain prominence, (3) get spammed into outer space and (4) maybe get good enough filtering to remain usable
Apparently Discord has just reached stage 3
limber stone
also, if anyone claims their $0.03 in crypto, let us know! lol.
round oyster
typical scammers, multiple scams on one server
hearty depot
Da Fuck not again
dull osprey
@midnight adder is a spambot.
limber stone
but I agree, it gets to that point, pretty much every time social media or as you said it public communications networks got larger, they got worse before they got better.
dull osprey
lol, now that blocked it.... Lets see if I can unblock
low harness
Never mind. We'll get them next time
jolly mural
I caught it
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
☝️ screenshot and handle please to make it easier for us not to ban the wrong people
jolly mural
Oop "rap man"
low harness
They're banned already
midnight adder
@midnight adder (657148951157407755) is dm spamming
low harness
screenshot
dull osprey
light trout
picture or it didn't happen
low harness
thank you
midnight adder
limber stone
don't ban me, but include THIS in your screenshot! 👍
low harness
The number after # really helps
limber stone
Snipping tool for the win
dull osprey
indeed ^^
jolly mural
Right just changed my dm preferences
thick crypt
Snipping tool for the win
@limber stone Let's open photoshop 🤔
limber stone
pfft for a 50kb screen shot, lets open 6gb worth of ram up for this bad boy!
hearty depot
Nah cmd,shift C Abd yore sorted
light trout
discord is a webapp, just change the value I don't know who said that 🤔
hearty depot
.I really would like to know how many ppl getting onto these spam campains and the number oft send out requests
limber stone
one is already too many
hearty depot
low harness
Wow. Discord does not make this easy. Good on them
And I missed the name in the message 🤦
dusky plank
He's like @velvet horizon , spamming all day long
low harness
Fixed
@light trout Please say something to let me know I didn't have you accidentally banned.
peak cloud
He seems to be still on the server, so I think you’re all good!
low harness
phew
light trout
I'm here, you probably banned my alt account
forest edge
he was only banned in his heart
clever mortar
I can fix this 👍
faint kernel
@serene mortar Yo. Someone on this discord is contacting users with a bitcoin scamn
<@&330946878646517761> Tag all of you
clever mortar
"someone" 🤔
junior forge
Fire?
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
☝️ please read the topic and provide the user's handle too
faint kernel
Sent a screenshot
clever mortar
Nice, and the handle
faint kernel
kaploomp
#8129
peak cloud
We need the 4-digit discriminator as well.
wet pilot
That's a cool handle
peak cloud
Ty
faint kernel
Best handle I have ever seen
deft pewter
That's an awesome handle. For the first couple of loops, I thought it was broken. Now I really want one.
faint kernel
Why handle no smart?
peak cloud
That’s a pretty sweet handle though, for real!
peak cloud
He gon’.
scenic radish
I live beyond the realm of time
edgy path
Somebody from this server is spamming
sinful jetty
edgy path
I got one from Voronoff or something
tulip hill
Yep same for @midnight adder
thick crypt
Yep same for @midnight adder
@tulip hill screenshot please
errant bough
thick crypt
Thnx!
atomic bobcat
astral trout
I got one from @midnight adder 659996195036332043
https://i.imgur.com/uKjhj3O.png
atomic bobcat
shrewd oasis
Hello. Anyone know how to connect a 240v air conditioner to a Shelly 2.5? I have 2 120v lines going to the air conditioner.
low harness
Ask in #diy-archived, and be careful about power ratings.
shrewd oasis
Ok. Yea I checked my ac and it’s within the limit of the Shelly.
clear ferry
2x120, that sounds like muuuurica
subtle pasture
Sounds like 3-phase
shrewd oasis
@clear ferry what is that from???? Hahah
thick crypt
@atomic bobcat Please send also the handle that I can copy 😉
shrewd oasis
Sounds like 3-phase
@subtle pasture isn’t 3 phase 3 hots of 120v each?
atomic bobcat
well that's an issue because I removed them from dms, I got their handle in one of the screenshots
thick crypt
No problem, it's already done 😉
atomic bobcat
MRLOLITTI#5243 it seems like
subtle pasture
atomic bobcat
ah, thanks :)
subtle pasture
Sorry, misspoke. Single-phase, 3-wire
shrewd oasis
Yea that one. We know it as “dual phase”
Used for water heaters, ac, some washers and dryers. Things that need more juice.
shrewd oasis
It’s just a ... drum roll.... phase
subtle pasture
@clear ferry The US is 240v native, we just tap the center of the transformer as well
subtle pasture
Which allows both 120v and 240v in the same panel
shrewd oasis
For us we have 2 120 lines coming in to the panel
subtle pasture
So you have two neutrals?
signal pulsar
not sure where to report but have got a spam message around crypto by @midnight adder from this channel
subtle pasture
Because that doesn't sound right
shrewd oasis
No one. But from the street to the houses it’s 1 neutral 2 hots and you make your own ground by using a really really really long stack
shrewd oasis
Stake*
forest edge
For us we have 2 120 lines coming in to the panel
@shrewd oasis this is how it's done in the US to achieve 240v
shrewd oasis
At the street yes. In the houses it’s already divided
hasty spoke
@midnight adder is sending crypto spam
subtle pasture
@forest edge It's already 240v, just measure across the whole thing rather than from the center tap 😛
shrewd oasis
Yea you put a meter on the 2 hora and you get 240
forest edge
incorrect, it's oppsoite phase 120v, two lines from the pole, ON the pole is 2 lines
shrewd oasis
Give me a second to think
shrewd oasis
Yea yea. Sonoma is right.
But some areas have transformer for area which get 240 then divide.
quaint crest
@thick crypt I just got this spam from @midnight adder #4658
shrewd oasis
Houses never get 240 direct. You have to be a factory or a port to get streaight higher
Sea ports here get 480 direct from the station then it’s divided at the port
clear ferry
Here we do 240 for older houses and 400 for anything after 95
forest edge
yea substation will run 240 to the transformers on the pole then it splits out if you have those
thats how it is at my farm, but the majority of the line traversing suburbia is two 120vv lines
shrewd oasis
yea substation will run 240 to the transformers on the pole then it splits out if you have those
@forest edge when they explode it makes a huge sound haha.
forest edge
well thats the fuse/breaker you hear popping. the transformer itself hardly ever explodes lol
not evven sure i ever seen that happen
maybe if lighting strikes it
shrewd oasis
I’ve seen 2 exploded in my life. One happened on my street and one on the news. I thought we were getting bombed.
Thought the US was invading again haha
steel scarab
Can an admin that's online please message me
forest edge
@subtle pasture there's a difference between grid and what we perceive as our "electrical system"
to run power over great distances you have to run more than what you want
subtle pasture
I'm well aware
forest edge
don't remember what the drop off rate is
but we're still considered 120v and not 240v
unlike the psychos across the pond
deft pewter
In China? 😮
subtle pasture
Except the last run into your electrical panel delivers 240v if you ignore the center tap that's referenced to ground (aka "neutral")
deft pewter
No psychos across the Atlantic Pond.
shrewd oasis
And this 2 120v lines to my ac is what got me stumped with the Shelly.
I might just have to email them and see what they say.
And the other thing is that those lines are 10 gauge and shellys only fit 12 gauge. Don’t think going down to 12 then back up to 10 is a good idea
forest edge
any reason you are looking to hard cut the power for it?
deft pewter
Aww, shucks. I never win Bitcoin.
shrewd oasis
any reason you are looking to hard cut the power for it?
@forest edge for when we go on trips we want to do it with anything that’s not needed
fierce briar
<@&330946878646517761>
shrewd oasis
Fridge, cameras, security, and server stay on while everything else off
More of a peace of mind thing really
thick crypt
@fierce briar Please also the handle that I can copy
low harness
Dude. Remove the tag when you do that
tame stump
@midnight adder also a bot
steel scarab
Haha, I just reported that too
thick crypt
@low harness Was the wrong line that I would react/quote
shrewd oasis
@forest edge it also has another benefit with the Shelly is that I would be able to monitor the power use for when I’m using it during work hours. Now that I’m working from home. Seems the change will be permanent.
thick crypt
@fierce briar already banned
fierce briar
@Splander Meme#1480
tame stump
If you can't tag them they're likely already banned
fierce briar
I didn't plan to tag them 😉
shrewd oasis
Telling my employer this information might get them to actually help the employees with the bill during work hours
fierce briar
Thanks for the great effort👍
shrewd oasis
Panama is new to this work from home thing and there are no laws or regulations. We are just starting to pass a couple so that information would help us small folks to get compensated correctly.
forest edge
@forest edge it also has another benefit with the Shelly is that I would be able to monitor the power use for when I’m using it during work hours. Now that I’m working from home. Seems the change will be permanent.
@shrewd oasis using a shelly 2.5 won't work like you think it will. it will monitor and control each input independently
not to mention not sure it could handle operating under that condition to begin with
astral trout
help the employees with the bill during work hours
ooh, that's a clever idea.
deft pewter
I'd love to have been able to give a before/after to my employers to show the increased costs. Unfortunately, I only started with HA since March.
shrewd oasis
In panama it’s already passed that the employer has to help with the internet bill
deft pewter
For a while, they were paying us a bit extra for bills. They're going to stop because 'everything's okay now'...
Stopping as we go into winter too... when heating costs more 😦
hasty spoke
@midnight adder
shrewd oasis
@shrewd oasis using a shelly 2.5 won't work like you think it will. it will monitor and control each input independently
@forest edge I can use the tariff integration to split the watts between work hours and none work hours. That way one watt stream gets separated into 2
charred idol
@midnight adder did send me a spam DM!
<@&330946878646517761>
forest edge
@shrewd oasis just seems sketchy to use one in that manor
shrewd oasis
Ah ok. If I can’t get the hard cutoff part what would you recommend for at least the monitoring part?
midnight adder
@midnight adder just scam direct messaged me
shrewd oasis
Ah ok. If I can’t get the hard cutoff part what would you recommend for at least the monitoring part?
@shrewd oasis @forest edge any idea?
forest edge
@shrewd oasis I would just use a rated smart plug for 240v.
thick crypt
@midnight adder just scam direct messaged me
@midnight adder Please show an screenshot
shrewd oasis
Ok thanks
lusty peak
@thick crypt
midnight adder
@thick crypt
thick crypt
Thnx
midnight adder
Is everyone getting these I think they might have been hacked
midnight adder
No the user sending them must have been hacked
I don’t know who they are I got this at random
I checked mutual servers and I saw this server so I decided to post a notice
lusty peak
or some one uses random accounts to do this 😉 but i dont know if this person is new or not in this server that s
plenty of account creators out there
wet pilot
It's all botting
midnight adder
Huh?
wet pilot
It's script kiddie crap. No one is doing it manually
midnight adder
Oh
They blocked me can somebody do a ? whois on them in #botspam to see if they’ve been hacked
rocky prairie
trail crag
@midnight adder who?
midnight adder
@trail crag this person that direct messaged me
I want to see if they were hacked
But they blocked me for some reason
So I need someone else to do it
trail crag
@midnight adder was already banned a couple hours ago
midnight adder
Oh they were banned?
midnight adder
were they hacked
trail crag
no
midnight adder
So they did this on their own will
trail crag
its just random accounts being made to send spam
trail crag
if you scroll up you'll see others
midnight adder
Oh
Why are these people doing this because it looks like regular people that have been hacked
errant bough
Does anybody have a good system for multi-room speakers? I'm looking to set up Volumio with a Pi DAC but I'd like to be able to send audio throughout the house, ideally without DAC and an amplifier for each room. So I'm trying to find the most efficient way to send audio to another room over LAN, preferably with the Volumio acting as a hub of sorts.
last dirge
chance that mycatcondo's fallen for phishing, greater than zero
errant bough
My guess is if any of these people haven't posted in the Discord before, someone just slowly invited a bunch of bot accounts in and started having them send out messages today
last dirge
there's no invite necessary
well, normally
@errant bough at one point @last plaza had a whole home setup with Pis
and shoutcast, I think it was
last plaza
correction - snapcast
last dirge
yeah, somethin like that
last plaza
lol - moved onto Sonos now
last plaza
yeah, but so much easier
errant bough
I thought about Sonos but I heard they do e-fuses for warranty and the recycler in me coils in fear
last plaza
setting up gstreamer is a PITA
you can get IKEA version of Sonos, they are much cheapers, and there are so many mods to those online
symfonisk
midnight adder
chance that mycatcondo's fallen for phishing, greater than zero
The only phishing I fell for afaik was a Instagram phish
So 1%
I realized this was a scam right when I got it
errant bough
more totally real bitcoin for me 
midnight adder
$8000 worth
errant bough
and i didn't even enter! damn i'm lucky
grand thicket
I purchased a bitcoin from one of these discord servers a few months ago, still waiting for the guy to ship them to my house. Confident that it's not a scam 😆
last dirge
@errant bough hey hey hey
errant bough
?
last dirge
errant bough
conneeeeeeeect
last dirge
dat exit scam doe
errant bough
not this time bro its real this time i'm getting my bitcoin you wait and see
last dirge
OH NO WHAT I'MA GONNA DO
fickle kayak
Whats the best channel to ask an MQTT question in?
fickle kayak
Yeah I guess...new to it. I want to set it up, reading tutorials now, but in case I have a question I don't want to post in wrong channel
I basically want to set it up to send me alerts on sensors and Konnected Alarm
last dirge
how'd you install?
fickle kayak
via the Add-On store. Running HASSIO on RPi3
fickle kayak
installed Mosquitto Broker, InfluxDB, and Grafana
fickle kayak
nothing yet....I am just getting started, but if I run into a problem, I don't want to waste anyones time with posting in wrong channel...I've learned this Discord doesn't take lightly to posting in wrong channels
I just don't see a dedicated channel for MQTT
last dirge
well, if you have trouble with getting it running at all via the add-on, #330990055533576204
if you have trouble getting the info from the broker, #integrations-archived
same for influx
fickle kayak
okay thanks. Do you run MQTT?
fickle kayak
Like, I am just wanting to have it send me notifications on my phone for sensor changes, alarm set off, things like that....it's possible, right?
fickle kayak
what do you use MQTT for, if you don't mind me asking?
last dirge
right now, not much
I migrated almost everything I was previously using it for to ESP Home
but it runs as a service on my NUC, doesn't eat resources, so it just idles
fickle kayak
nice
okay well let me screw around with this for a while and see what I can come up with. Thanks for the info
last dirge
and if your question is about "send to my phone" and you mean via the app
then it's whatever phone OS you're using
pure knot
@light trout I decided to try HACS today, I have fallen in love. Well done.
fickle kayak
yeah, android, official HA app
shy comet
@last dirge no android app for you? 😦 😛
clear ferry
I dropped the app recently too
clear ferry
I love that my laptop fan is now alteast 50% lower after migrating to linux
suck it corporate overlords
that said, our image is so bloated that it is ridicoulous
clever mortar
Most corp images are
Have another half dozen endpoint agents, since the first two dozen may not provide 200% coverage of all the things
clear ferry
I fixed it for a year by upgrading Windows10 to a version that Mcafee and other stuff didn't support
so atleast the machine was partly usable
Jeebus creebus
I logged 6 cases for a customer, and stated in the case notes "please coordinate across cases"
and I get mail back from 6 different indian guys
Who apparently haven't read the notes
clear ferry
KDE Mobile integration is quite nice tbh
midnight adder
@clear ferry reminded me with a freelance webiste, which sends a message "I have read your requirements carefully..blahblahblah", then when you message them..they're like idk what you are talking about
clear ferry
🤣
clear ferry
Collaboration on documents directly in Teams is actually quite nice
deft pewter
Collaboration 🤢
deft pewter
I'm trying something else before I go down that route. My WiFi connected really quickly last night when I got home - the companion app reported I was on my home WiFi 20 seconds before I got to the front door.
clear ferry
🤣
deft pewter
If that's consistent enough, I'll just use that.
clear ferry
I'm going to print one to put in my car
deft pewter
It looks a really good idea. I like that approach.
But if my WiFi is slow to connect, it also rules that one out.
I've got some spare ESP's I could use if I do something like that. I just don't have the other parts or an enclosure.
clear ferry
noice, I'm making a custom firmware and driver update run to deploy to 700 nodes
just editing some .scexe files and creating some lulz folders
then lets go go gadget distributed ssh
last dirge
@shy comet no. I rarely use it on my phone
last dirge
what's that for?
clear ferry
car presence
last dirge
ultrasonic?
clear ferry
Wifi
last plaza
🤢
low harness
Looks like it could fit an Orange Pi?
clear ferry
A wemos d1 mini you mean
last dirge
what's it using to sense the car though
clear ferry
wifi + mqtt
last dirge
it's acting as a WAP?
last dirge
oh, it's IN the car
clear ferry
yes
last dirge
in your A8?
last dirge
that probably wouldn't work in an A8
clear ferry
probably, because BT didn't even work if I closed the door of the car
clear ferry
unless I pressed the phone against the rear passenger mini window
last dirge
I used to install mobile electronics and HATED working on A8s
they'd come in for sat radio and it was a huge pain in the ass
clear ferry
Mine was only 2x Thickness on all windows, you get the armored one which is 8x thickness I think, you need to learn to drive because of the light refraction
last dirge
couldn't put the antenna on the dash because it didn't work
couldn't stick it on the trunk lid because it was aluminum
clear ferry
Yeah, I put my DAB antenna on the rear mini window, only window that allowed signals out
last dirge
so we'd have to end up using 3M VHB tape
low harness
Glass in general blocks RF pretty efficiently
night zodiac
google/gmail is down for me
clear ferry
@low harness never had issues with any other cars tbh
Noice , just 11 days to ship from China to Norway
Gogo AliExpress
autumn owl
Hello!
forest edge
glad to see someone found my doorbell post useful. went two months without a single blip lol
I felt so alone..
peak cloud
You're never alone, my friend.
velvet horizonBOT
I agree. I'm here 24/7 for moral support.
clear ferry
Mmmm replacing 8 20 core gold CPUs for 8 28 core platinum cpus
And adding half a terabyte of ram
forest edge
if the people who owns that equipment only knew what you did with it in secret..
autumn owl
Where can i ask help with getting local keys from Tuya?
clever mortar
#diy-archived if you're looking to flash it
autumn owl
I don't want to flash it, i want to get the local keys so i can control it with the current software
clever mortar
Then either #hardware-archived or #diy-archived
forest edge
Tuya🤢
autumn owl
Tuya🤢
I know, but i got cheap tuya plugs and i want to get them working with other apps
deft pewter
Why does it have nipple clamps?
clear ferry
vagrant crest
lavish smelt
Can anyone think of somewhere (US) that I can find a large (>= 9ft) unlit Christmas tree? Looking for an artificial tree that I can add a bunch of WS2811 pixels to and run off of WLED.
clever mortar
Amazon?
spark orchid
Almost any big box store will have at least one unlit tree option
lavish smelt
Been looking there, but most of them are pre-lit.
spark orchid
I got my unlit tree from Home Depot a few years back
lavish smelt
Yeah, the home improvement stores should start to have Christmas crap out now. I might go check later.
clever mortar
I got my ~8 foot tree from Amazon (UK)
lavish smelt
I think the height is the issue for me right now because the room the tree goes in has a double high ceiling. (18ft/5.5m)
peak mountain
I have an extra rasberry pi 3, any good uses for it that involve home assistant?
I'm already running a server for HA
lavish smelt
@peak mountain I use one for remote-homeassistant to put my zigbee/zwave radios at another spot for better reception. (Main HA is in a rack in the basement).
peak mountain
what's remote-homeassistant?
lavish smelt
@spark orchid what did you do for lighting on your tree?
peak mountain
ohHHHHH
velvet horizonBOT
peak mountain
okay, I dont need support lol
peak mountain
oh okay, sorry I thought it was just no support
deft pewter
'What is this thing related to HA?' is a support question.
peak mountain
There's no support for Home Assistant here - please look at the other channels for that.
lavish smelt
Yeah, I didn’t see that as support either. It’s okay.
peak mountain
that's not what I asked origonally
I was asking for uses for an extra raspberry pi
I wasn't even expecting a home assistant answer
lavish smelt
I mean, if you haven’t already, pi-hole. /shrug
lavish smelt
Yeah, I was just showing what I was doing.
light trout
adguard > pihole
lavish smelt
I’ve got a cluster of pi’s in my basement running kubernetes, but I haven’t done anything with it yet, lol.
peak mountain
i wonder if I can use a vpn with pi hole
lavish smelt
Eh, that’s not HA related, but yeah you can. It doesn’t block traffic, just DNS. So as long as your VPN server isn’t on a list you’re fine.
peak mountain
great, well I found what i'm going to do!
spark orchid
@lavish smelt 5mm addressable LEDs controlled by an Arduino. Just chases and such
lavish smelt
@spark orchid awesome. Same thing I’m looking at doing then. Did you permanently attach them all to the tree, or do you just run a string every year?
spark orchid
I, arduously, secured them to the tree. I may do some audio interaction if I find time this year
deft pewter
Will it be synchronised to Die Hard?
lavish smelt
Making a note of that.
Actually, you might be able to use Hyperion and WLED to do that fairly easily, lol.
clear ferry
Servers that roll both forward and backwards in racks is nice
lavish smelt
Wait. What? What vendor makes rails that do that? No cable management arms in the back?
deft pewter
Knowing atx, it's some homemade contraption.
He built his own home. Out of twine and popsicle sticks, no less.
lavish smelt
I was not aware of that. I have never worked with any of SGI’s systems before. I guess HP is making them now.
clever mortar
Yeah, but didn't you also buy Compaq.... 😛
clear ferry
Ppppppppp 36 dimms installed and 6 CPUs replaced
Just 2 CPUs and 12 dimms to go
These 64GB dimms are so dense they are twice as heavy as the 32GB ones!
subtle pasture
Heh, interesting. Usually fixed rack ears on the front of the server prevent it from sliding out backwards...
In addition to the rails just not doing it
clear ferry
Just google sgi uv300 rails
Interesting, that didn't work
Had to open the engineering docs
deft pewter
4G? I thought Norway was advanced?
clear ferry
My phone only has 4g, there is 5g coverage here 🤣
What is this, blank space for ants?
⛹️
clever mortar
<Error>
<Code>AccessDenied</Code>
<Message>Access denied.</Message>
<Details>Anonymous caller does not have storage.objects.get access to the Google Cloud Storage object.</Details>
</Error>
🤔
clear ferry
S3 glacier 💌
sterile trail
what server do you guys recommend R720 or R730
dusky plank
the one with the ssd
clever mortar
Newer generally means more efficient
clear ferry
730 is newer yes
720 would be gen8 730 would be gen9
So v1/V2 Vs v3/v4 CPUs
2012 Vs 2015
sterile trail
i have a 710 and its failing on me
clear ferry
7 series is overkill for most anyway
sterile trail
im running 45 vms
clear ferry
5 is more reasonable
sterile trail
24-7
clever mortar
730xd 😄
clear ferry
Move to docker
clever mortar
Can I have a few more TB of storage please
sterile trail
ya half of thoes vms are kubernetes workers
dusky plank
on a single host? 🤔 why?
clear ferry
Because reasons
sterile trail
lol i am only paying the power bill for one host
my old setup was 4 2950s
and 2 were on 24-7
clear ferry
Just move to s country with free power
sterile trail
its 23 cents per kw here
dusky plank
$0.003 is technically unlimited times more expensive than free
deft pewter
Meh. Practically free.
wet pilot
compared to most, yeah basically free
spark orchid
I have an R720 and it has been bulletproof. I did have to change the raid controller so I could go beyond the 2TB limit per drive.
clear ferry
Wtf 2TB limit
deft pewter
clear ferry
I have never seen that irl
spark orchid
lol, I have, but I am old
clear ferry
I still remember the lba48 limit though
spark orchid
The original PERC controller had that limit
clear ferry
137GB
spark orchid
I still remember swapping 5.25 floppies to continue playing a game
spark orchid
with a pencil
clear ferry
And flipping them over
C128 with both 5.25 floppy (and double capacity hack) and tape drive
The games I had on tape were more fun though
spark orchid
I remember my first IBM clone at home. 386 with an 8Mb hd
spark orchid
My dad's company had 3 on-site warehouses with punch card and reel to reel machines
They had a bunch of govt contracts, so they were cutting edge lol
clear ferry
🤣
My dad worked at the airport, they used cd ROM trays as ash trays
And surfed porn
But we also played hearts over local lan
spark orchid
mmm.... dial-up porn. the memories
spark orchid
sorry, bmp
I can't actually remember what image file type was most commonly hosted on the BBSes in my area
clever mortar
Ah, 8 bit (if you're lucky) images over slow links
I remember those days too well 😄
clear ferry
Kids these days will never understand
clever mortar
Or know the joys of being able to determine the sync speed by the sound the modem made
clear ferry
That said, Roland mt32 still gives me chills
spark orchid
I ran a BBS in 94-95, somewhere around there. 8 lines. Nothing quite like the disharmony of 8 modems answering incoming connections.
clever mortar
Slightly more fun was running a war dialling rig...
spark orchid
My 150 users almost shit themselves when I upgraded to 14.4 modems and quadrupled the throughput
I wardialed lol. That's how you found the good BBSes
*69 screwed with that
clear ferry
I planned to run a BBS in the mid 90s but never got around to it
spark orchid
Honestly, my buddy and I got sick of the lines being busy when we wanted to play space traders. Figured we would just run our own and play whenever we wanted
clear ferry
But by then BBS was dead anyway
spark orchid
BBS in mid 90s hadn't died, we went underground 😉
clear ferry
Heck we got free ISDN after 8pm from 1997
spark orchid
AIM bots became our next adventure
clear ferry
And docsis in 98/99
spark orchid
I didn't get DSL until 99...
spark orchid
Actually 01 sounds more accurate
spark orchid
oooo, college... I have never been in a fiber area. I finally have 300/5 cable where I am at
clear ferry
Lol, most isps rolled out only fiber here from 2010ish
Could get 1000/1000 here since 2013
wet pilot
i have both 1ish G up/down fiber + 450/300 docsis running here
could up the docsis connection up to 1ish G up/down too but i'm keeping it as a backup
spark orchid
Our ISPs have fiber, until the switch station, then coax to the houses... The cable oligopoly has a strangle hold here
clear ferry
Landlines were stopped offered here almost a decade ago, fiber was the default roll out since late 00s, cable is only used in major metropolitan areas where they can't change
tame sand
I live next to munich.. and we have no fibre... sad life ...
we have docsis 400/100
its enough i guess... fiber would be nice though
spark orchid
I am fairly certain the new development behind mine has fiber from Spectrum, but my entire neighborhood is screwed unless someone wants to up their infrastructure game
clever mortar
At least in the UK they're rolling fibre out to almost everywhere
clear ferry
@tame sand I live in a farm county between 5 big farms in a 40 year old house 🤣
tame sand
Lucky you 😅
deft pewter
Unlucky for his 5 neighbours.
clear ferry
😠
deft pewter
❤️
tame sand
honestly... germany has a lot of problems somehow getting their internet upgraded.... we don't even have full 4g coverage
just because the providers don't want to share...
clear ferry
We have full 4g coverage even several km out to sea
tame sand
gonna move to norway then i guess 🤔
tame sand
they failed writing the legislation properly the first time
spark orchid
In the US, the providers are different, but have secretly agreed to screw everyone
tame sand
there is a rewrite planned for next year i hope
clear ferry
Like everything in the us then @spark orchid
spark orchid
yup
tame sand
lol
spark orchid
The wife wants to move the whole family to NZ
tame sand
but imagine working for one of the companies and not having mobile coverage.... that must suck 🤔 ... and just because you don't want others to have it
spark orchid
That sounds like us... Had a friend working for Verizon years back that had to use AT&T for cell service because his town, with its own Verizon store, had no coverage from Verizon
spark orchid
We got the smarts over here
clear ferry
@storm summit come to Norway, we have the same varied climate and less sheep 🤣
clear ferry
Print it
forest edge
the lack of ear lighting makes it shit
late gate
Random question Do you mount door sensors on the top or side?
clear ferry
In the top corner?
last plaza
I only wish they make magnetic door trim and a placeholder for door sensors
late gate
Top corner top or side? Trimmed side or indent side? Is it actually any standard
low harness
If it has a button for resetting, don't mount it such that that button is in an inside corner.
forest edge
omg https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/32599 after all this time. these are mine and why they didn't work well with the normal flux intergration lol
static plinth
This is a pretty dumb question but if I get a mod bus hat for my raspberry pi, will I be able to access that hat from within home assistant if I do the right configuration settings
I don’t know where to ask that question because it’s very high-level and comes from my inexperience so I’m just throwing it out here
forest edge
that sucks, that magichome integration is cloud 🤢
bitter zinc
@forest edge is that integration actually being made?
forest edge
@bitter zinc already made but they are trying to get it into core which it is not
bitter zinc
So I can use it right now?
forest edge
if you know how to add a custom intergration you can try it, sure
forest edge
no idea, not tried it yet. just found it today lol
bitter zinc
Lol I hope it’s better that would be great
forest edge
don't even know if it's all there to work or anything. if you want to mess with it, it's here https://github.com/ZNEGGE-SDK/magichome
bitter zinc
Ok cool thanks
wet pilot
Anyone have a laptop with an and 4k cpu here that uses Linux?
bitter zinc
Is it possible to have redundant home assistant instances? Or redundant z wave sticks?
wet pilot
Zwave devices can pair with one and only one controller
last plaza
Anyone have a laptop with an and 4k cpu here that uses Linux?
@wet pilot I do
wet pilot
Which OS and does your audio work?
Ubuntu 20.10 with kernel 5.8.0 does not seem to want to work
last plaza
I have ubuntu 18.x LTS I think
wet pilot
Ah ok. Older kernel seems to not have audio issues from what I can tell
bitter zinc
Crap that sucks.
Can I have Z wave as an external container that’s used by both instances?
storm summit
@clear ferry isn't norway cold though?
if it cold and no wuhan-flu then I guess i'll go
last cedar
I got my 6 ssds yesterday. 40GB Intel 320s. And got given 8x600GB disks to burn in my HBA and backplate with (have a 846 with a bad port on the backplate, but I don't think it is a bad port, either cable or controller issue).
Looks like my router gets here today too :)
The ssds are for opnsense, truenas and maybe proxmox boot (mirrored) otherwise I will have 2 spare
clear ferry
@storm summit psssh, it's 10c right now
clever mortar
Sounds nice and warm
hearty depot
@last cedar
proxmox 🤢 when you have no clue of proxmox anyway you could checkout openstack (I sugest the kolla project ) or truenas scale (alpha as F. but also fun)
clear ferry
Mmmm truenas <3
hearty depot
I have to redo my setup, but then with scale - because debian ❤️
hearty depot
no jails in scale?
clear ferry
Jails is a bsd thing , so 🤣
hearty depot
welp systemd-nspawn
clear ferry
Never even heard of, had to Google
hearty depot
I never used jails, but from what I read it sould be quite similar
but then, you loose the easy jail setup I guess
dusky plank
do you guys have some funny doorbell.wav laying around?
hearty depot
search zedge
ooh thats a nice doorbell
https://www.zedge.net/ringtone/4416b2fb-6526-4ceb-9a00-068bed794864
last cedar
@hearty depot I can check it out, I am actually thinking ESX, and run dockers in a VM. We will see!
hearty depot
scale will get out of alpha in a month, but to face it.. ESXi os just easy and it works, while the other 2 are a little fiddle
hearty depot
reminds me.. Whats the HomeAssistant status.
It's not stable release yet afaik
clear ferry
- Suggests...... Not production worthy
clever mortar
HA itself is pretty stable IMO
Now, the integrations... 🤏 some less so than others
hearty depot
Betas almost always just working fine
clever mortar
I've personally not had any stability issues since ... somewhere around 0.4x
clear ferry
I've not had any since I started tbh
clever mortar
Most of my issues relate to zwave anyway
hearty depot
0.6x died on me a couple of times
hassbian.. good old days
clever mortar
There's been a few point releases (usually a .0) that have had unexpected "features" for sure 😄
clear ferry
.0 is basically user beta
I never jump before .2 atleast
Or... Open beta would be a better term
hearty depot
still running 0.116.3
clever mortar
I usually wait for the next beta to be cut before upgrading... Went to 0.116 once the beta for 0.117 was cut. I'll do the same with 0.117
kind lantern
Cowards the lot of you 😂
clever mortar
My test box is for breaking 😉
kind lantern
To be fair - I'm not sure I'd be so blasé if I included some stuff I'm aware you guys include in home assistant (home security in particular, but I guess general disaster management). But for people who just do basic stuff (elaborate dashboard with some presence automation around lights/temps etc...) should live on the edge more 😂
clear ferry
You'll love this @hearty depot I found a picture of me from the late 80s
hacking some windows 1.0 game
Don't copy that floppy
Must have 90 actually
we got it the year it came out
PCDOS4.01 bitches
kind lantern
That picture couldn't be more 90s if you tried
clear ferry
You probably are right, although I could think of a few additions 🤣
hearty depot
Awwwwww. 😚
Can remeber these cind of PC's playing tombraider 1
But that doesnt look like a 5.2" floppy drive
must be around 92 is my guess
funny thing, we had the same plates
clear ferry
Everyone had those here
hearty depot
clear ferry
Officially ending my greenhouse for the season
hearty depot
almost cristmais in there anyway
clear ferry
Doesn't look like it with +14c
hearty depot
didnt your father already had snow this year?
wide sequoia
Hey guys, I'm new to this community so I'm not sure if this the right way to ask this question but can anyone guide me in the right direction with my problem?
velvet horizonBOT
wide sequoia
I have the Smart Life SmartIR controllers for my ACs. I have installed the Tuya integration in Home Assistance but it doesn't show me the ACs. I looked a bit online and I found the "SmartIR" community component on a lot of threads. I installed the SmartIR components perfectly but even if I add my controllers manually with the correct device code and ip address for the controller data, it doesn't work.
Here's the custom component I'm talking about: https://github.com/smartHomeHub/SmartIR
Home Assistant Version: 0.117.4
clever mortar
See #integrations-archived for help with integrations and custom components
wide sequoia
Alrighty
patent bloom
@kind lantern - I'm with you. I generally upgrade within a day or so. I stop my container, rename it and spin up the new one. Sometimes I just let watchtower do it. Even if the container shits the bed, I can easily roll it back...
clear ferry
@hearty depot we did too, for one day
hearty depot
remember a photo, but that could have been last year too 🤣
inner vault
We're dealing with a minor mouse problem at home
I realized I could quite easily hook up an esp8266 to a mouse trap and have it send me a notification if a trap flipped.
I mean, I haven't, but I could
clear ferry
That sounds easy
last cedar
All you showing off earlier with 3 did HA release numbers....
clear ferry
last dirge
spaghetti!
hearty depot
Fufufu.. There you spend felt hours to set up [ insert topic here ] only to find out that it wont work out way you need it to..
Aka... Do not try to set up client certificates on a proxied cloudflare domain -_-
tropic hedge
anyone have a recommendation for outside weather hardware? Just want temp and humidity I think
deft pewter
General recommendations or stuff that works with HA?
tropic hedge
HA
deft pewter
Off to #hardware-archived with you then. This channel isn't for support.
subtle pasture
@clear ferry That print needed support, for sure...
Or a larger contact patch where the feet meet the base
last plaza
Or fat legs would do 😂
last dirge
or a skirt
bitter pawn
forest edge
orchid rose
r/natureismetal
dull belfry
Do Zigbee devices need to be flashed in order to work with HA?
clear ferry
No
dull belfry
Thank you 🙂