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night zodiac
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I bought veg trug sensors that were labeled as xiami probes

deft pewter
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I might look in to whether you can persist the messages. The only thing that annoys me slightly is that after a restart, HA doesn't immediately see the stats.

night zodiac
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I have like 15 sensors I am waiting to set up

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labeling them seems fun

hushed basalt
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@rare condor I doubt the ram would be faulty, but there's a chance the sticks aren't playing nice with my mobo setup,

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I ordered the same SKU to add 2 x 8GB to an existing 2 x 8GB setup,

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But fingers crossed it's not that

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I need to setup kdump etc to look at the kernel messages

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But time, more time, more fun,

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Also I'll need to check that the firmware on my LSI card is the right version for proxmox 6.2 etc

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All time sinks

night zodiac
hushed basalt
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Unlucky haha

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At least it's amazons problem

night zodiac
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yeah, I only need 1 anyways

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I just bought 3 because fek it

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I'm trying to keep a stock of parts to where I don't have to wait 3 days every time I think of an idea

hushed basalt
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Do you know about JIT, kanban, those sort of concepts

night zodiac
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From a quick google, not at all.

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I know about JIT compilation 😛

hushed basalt
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In regards to inventory,

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It's about techniques to manage inventory levels,

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With the ideal scenario of having just enough to never run out but never more than you need/ don't use soon enough

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There's a lot to go into but here's a real world example of one style/implementation

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@night zodiac

night zodiac
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neat, I had some extra door sensors so now my closet lights turn on automatically

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fun

hushed basalt
rare condor
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Nice, thats really sweet

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Great to have a system for this

hushed basalt
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I doubt I'll be able to build a rack for the parts organisers until we have a house

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But it's still a huge help

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Being able to know where to go for that 25mm bugle head wood screw, or that 40mm long M4 button head fastener,

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As well as knowing what I have, and more importantly what I am almost out of

rare condor
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I was just speaking to a friend about using din mounted power meter, he is just mounting it in his rack server with no insulation, some point don't care I guess.

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Yeah organisation is paramount for hardware

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Its a really nice change to have proper mounting

deft pewter
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What do you all do for mounting smaller stuff? I've got various USB dongles on extension cables just sitting on my desk right now. Thinking of maybe using pegboard to tidy those up.

forest edge
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It's not a feature request! it's a necessity! @light trout j/k I only posted about it cause i thought it was odd there was no way to access the repo link from that window at that time

hushed basalt
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@deft pewter cable ties

deft pewter
hushed basalt
deft pewter
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But it seems a bit big for my current needs and I'm not sure what else I'd end up adding to it. My router/pi/etc are all in a TV console, so there's nothing to tidy.

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Is that cable tied directly to a wall? 😮

hushed basalt
deft pewter
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Oh, that makes sense

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Howe big are they? I just tried to look for something similar at a local hardware store and the smallest dimensions they have are 19mm²

forest edge
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why not use a usb hub that can be attached directly to a surface?

deft pewter
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I don't want a hub, no need for one.

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Might go the cable tie route. Gotta work now though, will do more research tonight. Cheers

hushed basalt
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Try searching for cable tie mounts. They make them in all sizes

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You want to match the width of your cable tie to the mount

forest edge
hushed basalt
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I must say learning appdaemon has been fun

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It's very nice being able to use all of python to do things

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Plus libraries and testing tools

rare condor
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damn it. I lost a bet tonight.

hushed basalt
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What was the bet

rare condor
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two fold bet, who would get married first out of group of friends and who would have child first

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friend just got engaged

deft pewter
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Well they're not married yet, so no bet lost 😉

rare condor
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Ah yes I need to be the guy in the hollywood film who has the objections

deft pewter
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That never works. Gotta sleep with one of them instead.

rare condor
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Objection this wedding can not go ahead! I will not lose $50!

deft pewter
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Doesn't matter if it's the fiancé or the fiancée. Either should work once it becomes public.

rare condor
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ITs funny you say that... nevermind this isn't a suitable convo for this place 😛

deft pewter
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😄

mighty summit
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guys, I need help with a stupid bar graph in Grafana... Imagine a vertical bar, I want the bar to rise above the 0 point when positive value, and I want the bar to sink below the 0 point for negative values... Can't figure out how to get that done.

deft pewter
night zodiac
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The only package from Amazon I have really needed badly in months is the slowest one to ship

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All of the bs I didn't need is fast

rare condor
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I am still waiting from May 😦

night zodiac
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For what?

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My aio liquid cooler clogged so my pc has been getting very hot. Still enough cooling to keep iit from melting

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Neat phone feature

rare condor
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AC:NH was a mistake

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You will have 0 time to do anything else

night zodiac
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Lol. I already have it

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This is so I can have my girlfriend come to my island

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I had to Google ac NH

rare condor
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Ah yes, literally every tinder message is either do you want to hookup or do you want to play AC:NH and see my island

night zodiac
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It took me months to get her a switch. She had no interest in the game but I knew she would like it.

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She spent the entire day on it yesterday

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I bought a lite a few days later so we can play together. I am on like day 3

rare condor
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ah nice

night zodiac
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I forgot to update my house before bed

limber cargo
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I'm a beginner with HA, not sure what's the right place to ask. I want to make a card that lets me specify a wakeup time and wakeupduration, and an 'enabled' switch then send those commands to my tasmota light bulb

rare condor
limber cargo
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thanks

deft pewter
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Yeah, not the channel whose topic says no support chat 🤔

rare condor
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mono been a savage

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had enough

deft pewter
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Had enough? I'm always grumpy. My age is showing.

rare condor
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Bloody hell I submitted a comment on a uni advice page on reddit now have 40 personal messages asking which uni they should go to in PM.

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hmm... Do universities offer referals

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Who pays the most??

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😂

last dirge
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Charles Sturt?

last dirge
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so I bought a new monitor for my wife since she's working from home

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has HDMI and DisplayPort connectors

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only came with a HDMI cable

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WTF

fathom sparrow
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cheap monitor?

deft pewter
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Isn't that normal? I just got a £500 monitor and it didn't come with every possible connector.

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Strangely, it had both EU and UK power cables. Never had both before.

last dirge
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@fathom sparrow no, decent Lenovo monitor

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@deft pewter this is the first monitor I've bought in a while that didn't have cables for every input type

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and of the two, why would they figure you'd have a spare DisplayPort cable and not a spare HDMI?

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Handy Dandy Media Interface

deft pewter
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Yeah, it'd be nice for them to include the 'nicer' cable if they were only going to provide one.

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I've lost count of how many VGA/HDMI cables I have in my box of junk.

last dirge
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I finally threw out all of my VGA cables except one

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well, put them in the box of stuff to go to the electronics recycler

static schooner
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I recycled my oldest monitor that supported VGA and almost immediately needed one for the box that runs pfSense

last dirge
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I have two monitors that use VGA

deft pewter
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I'm actually really glad I keep old cables. The one thing this didn't include that I was a bit pissed about was a USB-B cable for the KVM functionality.

last dirge
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that's why I keep the spare cable around

static schooner
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I bought a little 8" monitor for that now

last dirge
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I only use it for a display on my CCTV NVR

night zodiac
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I'm throwing new switches in my mouse

last dirge
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anybody got any recommendations on a decent webcam?

night zodiac
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Holy hell. I thought it would be a few screws. I have removed so many screws

last dirge
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I'm trying to help guide my wife into a better work/life balance and part of that is getting her to work where she won't be tempted to check her laptop unless she's actually working

night zodiac
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C920 is ol faithful but hard to get right now

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Don't worry about c920s, it's just 60 fps but looks worse

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30 fps is crisp

last dirge
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how 'bout one that's good but in-between inbuilt laptop quality and that?

night zodiac
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I don't know anything other than the C920, sorry. They were like 50 bucks a fee months ago

last dirge
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they're over 100 now

night zodiac
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Yeah, with all of the working from home, even shitty ones are hard to get

last dirge
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I could throw the Canon up there for her

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with the shotgun mic

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overkill?

night zodiac
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Already got er

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Do it, haha

last dirge
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I don't know if it's possible or not

night zodiac
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The options right now have terrible saturation settings or notthing other than a generic driver

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It is

last dirge
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it's an old digital video recorder, not a DSLR

night zodiac
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Oh, haha

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Idk

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Finally got to my switches

last dirge
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my mirrorless camera's coming Wed

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pretty stoked on that

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how 'bout KVMs, any recommendations for dual monitor solutions?

night zodiac
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Solder sucker was full

torpid quest
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Never had that happen before

last dirge
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I've had it happen a few times

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sometimes the solder hides inside the spring and jiggles loose

last dirge
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imagine sharing that monstrosity on a conference call

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"can everybody see my screen?"

odd kindle
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I’ve been sharing the 5k LG screen, but this is waaaay worse 🙂

last dirge
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hahaha

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that's 8k wide

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LOL

night zodiac
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okay, new switches installed; no leftover screws

last dirge
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no leftover screws = easy mode

night zodiac
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I have like 5 other mice I have retired because of switches I need to fix one day and give away

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different switches feel weird

torpid quest
night zodiac
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I'm not sure if I like them

shy comet
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what switches did you get?

night zodiac
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Kailh GM Red

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mouse

shy comet
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yea not the switch i was thinking about 😛

slender aspen
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Anyone here have the centurylink fiber? Closing on our house tomorrow and just found out I can get fiber for the same price as Charter at my apartment.

unkempt night
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what would be a good option to turn a vacuum on via a button via smart plug

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Would this be a good choice

deft pewter
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Lounge isn't for support.

night zodiac
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I'm anxious for my ESP32's in the mail. I don't think I'll have them for another hour though.

last dirge
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management: hey, change password requirements to 14 character minimum

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me: okay

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management: I know you made that change, but can people not be forced to change their passwords?

turbid stirrup
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People being the management themselves?

last dirge
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also management: this is a requirement for passing an ISO audit

wintry crater
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just change the passwords for them and write it down on their sticky stickers

last dirge
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we require strong passwords so accounts can't be compromised

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but allow people without strong passwords to keep their passwords in case they don't feel like changing it

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security through meh

brisk glen
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now you need to do a phishing test

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then force all users who fell for it to change their passwords

shy comet
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haha those are fun 😛

subtle crypt
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does thomasloven work for nabu casa yet? every time i want to do something in lovelace... he did it for me.

last dirge
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when did LinkeIn turn into Facebook?

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someone messaged me on there so I logged in and there's a whole bunch of mouth-breathing shit on my feed

deft pewter
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Yeah, so much for it being a professional networking tool. So much crap in my feed on there that I just don't bother now.

last dirge
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that was the first time I'd logged in in who knows how long

shy comet
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yea i remember thinking that too

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people sharing teh same articles on facebook

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@subtle crypt havnet seen any mention yet....most recent hire we have heard of is Ludeeus 🙂

last dirge
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MaSkS aCtUaLlY mAkE yOu SiCkEr!!!!one!!!!!eleven!!!!

shy comet
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lol

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i love the most recent "it cuts down on oxygen" claim

wintry crater
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if you have pneumonia you need more oxygen

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😄

bitter pawn
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not enough freedom for a delivery that far...

night zodiac
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I got my ESP32s, weee

shy comet
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man just wehn you think thingiverse is usable again....its not lol

torpid quest
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I know I fall for it every time

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"Oh! Thingiverse is fast today! Maybe they finally upgraded whatever hamster powered servers they are hosting it on."

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next day: takes 10 minutes to load a page

night zodiac
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Your Valve Index order is confirmed.

torpid quest
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oh man

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the best e-mail I've received all year

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just wish the base stations would go back in stock

night zodiac
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I've been waiting months for this email, haha

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I didn't realize esphome has magic built in for getting a DHT11 sensor rolling real quickly

hushed basalt
rare condor
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DHT11 🤮

rare condor
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DHT22, HDC1080, BME280, SGPxxx are accurate and cheap.

hushed basalt
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I have a few bme280s

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I don't have a soldering iron though so I have never been able to use them

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Lolol

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I should rectify that

midnight adder
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just twist the wires lol

rare condor
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Use a $5 gas soldering iron from ali in the worst case

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They actually work quite well

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or $9 one from jaycar

midnight adder
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yeah, I like them. the one I have I burmed out the heataing element, some thin wire like thing before the heating element.

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that goes red. well it doesn't anymore.

midnight adder
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or 50$ for an TS100
had 4 cheap soldering itons before, just loving the new one

hushed basalt
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I have a butane one

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I just hate it lol

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Plus it's conical tip

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I need to set myself up again

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But it's just $200+ once you get what you need,

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Ts80, tip, flux, solder spool,

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Actually more like $250

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$9 Jaycar soldering iron, please @rare condor I have standards

rare condor
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lol

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$200 seems excessive though $150 is more in line with what I would expect

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Make sure you buy: 500g solder 60% lead 40% tin, lead free sucks

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But years of not owning a fume hood have probs given me lung cancer at this point. Invest in fume hood or desktop fan!

hushed basalt
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I'm a soldering veteran it's okay :)

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I prefer 63/37 though

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Ts80p is $160 with power supply

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D25 tip is $35

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Solder is anywhere from $10-$50 but I'll probably get multicore 63/37

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Flux maybe $10-$20

rare condor
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solder $50??? I bought 1kg for $18

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But yeah I guess the TS80p is very expensive

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I bought a weller soldering station from amazon for $80

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Back in 2012 when our dollar was 1.12 usd 😥

forest edge
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don't worry the US is hard at work to tank our economy to bring back everyone else's worth lol

rare condor
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hmmmm... I'm going to buy the Oneplus Nord

forest edge
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news said many countries are banning Chinese tech such as cellphones

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not sure what the impact will be in the end if it will just be like a Huawei thing or worse though. course I think it's centered mostly around UK

midnight adder
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big boys just mad that they can't be the only one spying on us ; )

rare condor
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I asked for extra carrot on subway order I swear the guy must have been bored because he put carrot in the bag, in my sub, literally everywhere a solid 3-4 carrots

forest edge
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I would have just given you the bread with only a carrot and called it a day

hushed basalt
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Oof I didn't realise how cheap ram is on amazon

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i could have bought 2 x 16GB 3200Mhz for a little bit more than the 2 x 8GB 2400mhz I just bought

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I wanted to get the same SKU as the ram I already had but I could of just had 2 x 16GB instead

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It's okay it's only money

forest edge
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don't fret price will go up by quite a lot the next time you need ram

brisk glen
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Story of my life

glossy igloo
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😩

orchid rose
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No one is going to enforce that, but it might make it difficult to sell preinstalled IoT stuff

steel crag
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@rare condor amazon has some full solder rework stations for like $90

rare condor
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@steel crag Yeah we were talking AUD not USD though,

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and this was back when I was a kid

steel crag
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Australian ?

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I've no clue what the exchange is

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BSD is on par with USD so good for me 😄

shy comet
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wow thats pretty neat lol

deft pewter
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Awesome. I can print my next bodysuit.

shy comet
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haha

silent canyon
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Anyone have smart vents integrated in HA as part of their HVAC system? Just curious to see what others are doing with this new feature.

shy comet
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the one thing to keep in mind about smart vents is that you can only close 10%....if u do anymore u risk messing things up with the AC flow and possible unit due to the pressure

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in most cases its just being able to turn off a vent in one room while you want the others to cool down/heat up

ebon meteor
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Wasn't there a sub-channel for LEDs? or did I see one on the Add-Ons, HACS, or Dr. Zzzs channels?

night zodiac
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moono, I like the way esphome works. it is neat.

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-o

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moono is good, actually

deft pewter
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Yeah, ESPHome is neat. So simple to get a large variety of devices/sensors up and running.

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I'm sure there are people that like to code everything by hand every time... but I'll save that for times when there's not already an out-of-the-box solution.

night zodiac
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Yeah, I coded it from hand first and then learned about how esphome works

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I set it all up with the normal branch and then realized the beta branch supported my device specifically

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I'm guessing they have a rolling beta release since it was so fresh, the date

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or I was lucky on my timing

deft pewter
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Can already do that using monitor on any Linux device but it'd be great to do it on ESP's

night zodiac
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ahh, like the native btle device tracker but through esphome

deft pewter
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Yeah, pretty much.

night zodiac
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ahh, I read the github link

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by name rather than MAC to prevent dupes

deft pewter
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Not just about dupes. It's the randomisation that ruins BTLE tracking.

night zodiac
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well, yeah. you want to keep the same record rather than making a new one

deft pewter
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Each time a mobile device broadcasts its MAC address, it's random to avoid stalking. Devices that have successfully paired with it know its name, and can 'call out' with the name to see if it's nearby.

night zodiac
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I think my neighbor has a Tile on his keys

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I need to log it for experiments

deft pewter
night zodiac
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neat

shy comet
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love monitor

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i find that it detects me so quickly when i get home

night zodiac
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I feel like it wouldn't be crazy to get going with arduino. I am using my AP right now and it works well

trail crag
forest edge
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I love my crocs but that.. that is just dumb

deft pewter
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I love KFC and I agree that it's dumb.

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It belongs in mah belleh, not on my feet.

dusky plank
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🐣

night zodiac
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fun sensors to buy before I put through a digikey order?

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😛

last dirge
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SHt22

night zodiac
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DHT22?

last dirge
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sorry, SHT20, 21, or 25

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depending on accuracy

night zodiac
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water porrof

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neat

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I just got some BME280 in the mail

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I have two DHT11s in my closet, I may have ruined one of them by soldering on some stuffs, lmao

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they are super different atm

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I just moved both of them to esphome

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these new sensors are so small and cute

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It says it comes prejumped but I can't even see that small

night zodiac
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oh, woow

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super fast and accurate

deft pewter
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It was that quick for you to set it up? I might even try it 😄

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Already got an ESP32 in my study for BTLE stuff, none of the pins are in use yet.

night zodiac
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I'm just running test arudion code atm

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esphome looks simple enough though

deft pewter
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Yeah, I'd just be adding it to my existing ESPHome config.

night zodiac
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I was making sure it worked before I soldered it together or made dupont connections

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not sure yet

deft pewter
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Solder. You know you want to.

night zodiac
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going to solder one to a proto board now

fading zodiac
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@light nest anything wrong?

night zodiac
night zodiac
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@deft pewter esphome was just as simple to set up

pure knot
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I can not get over how amazing 113 is

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so fast, the automation stuff is awesome

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best rls in all my years of using HASS (like 3).

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the new log book is amazing, so easy to debug stuff

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my zwave starts in half the time

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the UI is so snappy now

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its really all coming together

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such good work team! I am super impressed. I didn't think it could get any better.

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now all I need is better errors when you break automations. 🙂

shy comet
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yea the logbook is much better now i agree

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i used to be like "do i really want to click on this"

hushed basalt
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I've just upgraded from 111 to 113,

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Rolling the dice 😄

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It works

wet pilot
hushed basalt
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Heaps of people have done it @slow fractal I'd search the forums/reddit

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I wouldn't use an ultrasonic sensor

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You don't need to know the actual water level, you just want to know if it's too low

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Just use float sensors

tidal bronze
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@slow fractal DS18B20 waterproof sensor

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Either

dull chasm
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one high and one low ....can help maintain temps and determine circulation of water with fans

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water column temps can vary with lighting @slow fractal

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not needed

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floats are tried and true

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also i would not use a node ....use a pi with ha on it and use gpio's

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sump or just tank

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buy one just for tank

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depends on you i guess and how large you tank and sump is

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i have two 3's and 3 nodes for lighting

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well this tank with sump is 200 gallons

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and you are automating water changes?

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you can only change safely .6 gallon including evaporation

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damn .....just remember you are playing "god" ecosystems change slow ....water changes and evap is slow so replensiment should also be slow ..... other wise it creates shock to the fish

night zodiac
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about to solder a 7 segment on wifi together, lol

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door open counter

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nah, there will be a lot of wires on the back and I am not trying to make it hard to get to things 😛

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yeah, LCd screens are simpler 😛

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it probably had the lil chip included

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the single 7 segment is more lol

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I put that one together but just ripped it apart

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I have a 4 digit and a 1 digit 😛

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I am just going to put it someone in the front room so you can visualize how many times the door has opened

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I could use a matrix display and add a dot every time it was open, lol

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fek it, this is fun

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wifi 7 segment really

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I can use it for anything

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it wouldn't fit on a 1 digit

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I wouldn't be counting it 😛

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I decided to make the d1 pop into headers rather than solder directly

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I like the spacing too

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if I had a 3d printer

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yeah but it isn't something I'd do first try

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I would need one to play with

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maybe soon

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just bought VR goggles

tidal bronze
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@night zodiac what's up with scotch tape ?

night zodiac
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lol, just there until I soldered it

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it's gone now

tidal bronze
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Hold with finger, diagonal pins and off you go.

night zodiac
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yeah, was more-so for when I was planning it out

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I fucked up and got a gap on one of my header rows

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I goofed a bit

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nobody will know except everyone here

tidal bronze
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Fun part is messing up.

night zodiac
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my picture is flagged as explicit

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soldered joints too sexy

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not worried about it though

tidal bronze
#

Did you melt the Dupont male end on the last 2 pins ?

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😆

night zodiac
#

no

tidal bronze
night zodiac
#

tiny bit of solder from when i tried to adjust it a tiny bit then realized no point

#

I was only at each joint for like half a second, had it all soldered in a couple of minutes

#

nice soldering iron helps so much compared to what I used to use

night zodiac
#

I ruined my pretty board

#

I tried to make a long solder bridge like the cool kids and messed it up

#

not really, just filled some holes 😦

#

LMAO

#

my solder sucker was clogged, I kept pushing the plunger really hard trying to push the shit out

#

the whole head just rocketed across the room

hushed basalt
#

Just need to finish mocking the thermostats/temperatures then I'll have a working proof of concept

hushed basalt
#

@rare condor i finally changed the fans in my UPS

#

It's gone from the loudest thing in the cabinet to the quietest

#

I'm pretty sure the dies on my dupont crimper are a dud though

rare condor
#

Ah nice

#

I'm back in the office today

hushed basalt
#

Is that even recommended in Victoria

deft pewter
#

I remember offices

rare condor
#

@hushed basalt essential work

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Essential is used loosely in my opinion but we can't get access to PLC's at home. 🤷‍♂️

hushed basalt
#

Robots

halcyon ridge
#

Hi, does anyone have any ideas where you could get some python help?

midnight adder
#

@halcyon ridge About Home Assistant?

halcyon ridge
#

I'm trying to create an "advanced" automation that I beleive I need to write some python magic for. I can do basic python, but my skills are a bit limited when it comes to what I'm trying to do 🙂

midnight adder
halcyon ridge
#

Thanks 🙂

midnight adder
#

I thought people used ssh to have it run localy (Like when configuring a AP)

#

@dusky plank
maybe you ll find a usecase for you

#

ssh is the way to connect to machines, want to configure a website, use SSH.
Want to restart, use SSH.

while true
do 
 echo "Want to do ... , use SSH"
done
#

I know

#

But you could use ssh on a different port

dusky plank
#

@midnight adder thanks will try it as soon as i get sshd running on the company machine, runs windows so either I go full wsl or just openssh

midnight adder
#

it is then still ssh traffic, firewalls are aware due to DPI

#

you are a terrible person 😄

#

@dusky plank You could also use parsec

dusky plank
#

lol, even the website is blocked

midnight adder
#

Teamviewer?

dusky plank
#

I think about reverse websockets + novnc

midnight adder
#

@midnight adder I use teamviewer?

#

🤢🤮🤢

#

What's wrong with teamviewer

dusky plank
#

everything is sent via 3rd party

midnight adder
#

in general, you can read out the connection credencials,
there was a 8+ CVE around a couple of monts ago
(didnt bortherd to look to much into it)

#

Let me use my proxy to see whats sent

grave reef
#

I switched to Jump Desktop about a year ago and haven't looked back since

#

It does cost money, and it's not the most popular solution, but it works for me

midnight adder
#

Does that work on linux?

#

linux - xrdp on localhost + ssh tunnel
easy and works flawlesly

grave reef
#

Should be. It can connect to any VNC server

#

Another option I've heard good things about is AnyDesk

midnight adder
#

I also use microsoft remote desktop.

grave reef
#

Haven't used it extensively though so can't comment on its specifics

midnight adder
#

ok only a 7.2 CVE

An issue was discovered in TeamViewer 14.2.2558. Updating the product as a non-administrative user requires entering administrative credentials into the GUI. Subsequently, these credentials are processed in Teamviewer.exe, which allows any application running in the same non-administrative user context to intercept them in cleartext within process memory. By using this technique, a local attacker is able to obtain administrative credentials in order to elevate privileges. This vulnerability can be exploited by injecting code into Teamviewer.exe which intercepts calls to GetWindowTextW and logs the processed credentials.```
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I use linux not windows

dusky plank
#

do it

midnight adder
#

do what

dusky plank
#

it

covert moss
#

Hey guys, this is a bit of a dumb question. But given home assistant is software based, how do I use it as a hub for z-wave devices? Wouldn’t hardware like hubitat be required? I think I’m just missing how to bridge z-wave devices to home assistant without some sort of bridge device

dusky plank
#

@covert moss you still need a z-wave transmitter to talk to z-wave devices via HA, either a stick or a z-wave gateway from a manufacturer... but you are in #the-water-cooler anyway, better ask in #hardware-archived

covert moss
#

Thanks, new here. I’ll follow up there

last dirge
hushed basalt
#

I don't want to go back to a linux desktop

#

But jeez windows is making it hard not to

#

Can't even disable online search on start menu anymore

midnight adder
#

How you cant love a linux desktop 🤔

hushed basalt
#

I didn't love spending weekends trying to do basic UI tweaks

#

Or getting sound and video to work on a monitor

last dirge
#

is there a way to disable the bigass portion that takes up a good chunk of real estate with the metro stuff?

light trout
#

In the start menu?
Unpin all items

last dirge
#

seriously?

#

you have to do each one?

light trout
#

I don't remember

last dirge
#

that's horrible

#

that's better

#

yay, it's not stupid huge

light trout
#

there are some things you can install to make it look like win7

last dirge
#

I rarely ever use the start menu

forest edge
#

I don't get the hate for the win start menu thing, i really don't

last dirge
#

I use an app called Launchy

#

works like spotlight on Mac

#

whenever I do use the start menu I more than likely will just use the search

hushed basalt
#

Unpin the groups

#

But they're still there.. waiting

#

The search sends everything to microsoft though, that's the problem

#

I really like win10 though, but.. it's hard to stay with it on an ethical point

#

Plus it would be nice to have proper vscode working. WSL terminal and python extension don't play nice.

forest edge
#

there are guides with list of everything you can turn off for the privacy issue people have. infact i think there are scripts that do it all with a double click lol

#

I've had win10 since release and never had a single issue other people have had including the force update whateer thing that people said kicked them out of programs or whatever

#

but then I come from the days of win 3.1 etc so maybe my standards just arent as high as today's youth lol

steel crag
#

@forest edge I prefer the smaller win2000 style start menu but that's just me being old

#

I also started with win3.1

forest edge
#

pretty sure you can get that in win10 as well

#

I know i've seen pictures of it

steel crag
#

you could on windows 7 for sure

#

I've not really bothered too much I've feel down the HA rabbit hole atm

#

fell*

forest edge
#

lol

steel crag
#

well to be fair I've messed with crestron and lutron for a living so I figured how hard could this stuff be

#

boy was I in for a shock

forest edge
#

lol

dusky plank
#

windows 2000? is hard. yes

steel crag
#

but now I have 16 sonoff basics and 4 sonoff touches

#

and tinkering more and more

forest edge
#

i went from RF style smart home with no pc needed to HA, in fact HA is the only reason I even own crap that has "smart apps" for phone etc

steel crag
#

I've been toying with the idea of RF for my projector screen

#

but I guess I could make an IR blaster for the motor control it already has but where's the fun in that

forest edge
#

just Arduino it and make it wifi or bt lol

steel crag
#

but where I live getting parts to muck around with is a little .... difficult

#

well I have an RF project I built with two relays on it already.....

#

I was thinking arduino + that board to give me a nice keychain remote

#

🤷‍♂️

#

maybe I'll use that on the blinds

long needle
#

Hello World!

midnight adder
#

Exit: 130

#

@hushed basalt only get you halfway, its a pain to do over and over, but ansible/scripts got you coverd.

long needle
#

Fellas I'm new to Home Assistant and trying to make a UI with sonoff hardware (with DIY mode and without)

#

Would appreciate help to get started

midnight adder
fathom sparrow
#

@long needle if you have questions about the UI, please take your questions to #frontend-archived

rare condor
#

Is it just me or does influxdb suck?

#

Like everything is broken

#

why is it so popular

balmy field
#

Hey guys. Do you prefer zigbee, sonoff or knx?

deft pewter
balmy field
#

Sorry I’m going there! 🙂

rare condor
#

I'm not

#

That wasn't a support question

#

I miss the old lounge 😦

balmy field
#

It didn’t seem to me but... I don’t want to break rules

dusky plank
#

i see send sushi

deft pewter
#

Go on then, humour me. Let's see how long the conversation go on before turning into a support conversation 😉

rare condor
#

Influxdb sucks, I don't like the numerous wontfix, stale and many other issues

#

Its due to the project support

#

not a support question

orchid rose
#

My understanding of #hardware-archived is that it's exactly for these types of questions that Sendoushi had. To ask for advice and recommendations on hardware

dusky plank
#

whats the glory of influx anyway? is it that fast?

rare condor
#

I really don't know it seems to be defacto

#

esp for IoT

dusky plank
#

it doesn‘t even survive for a week on arm, crashes when compressing the DB

rare condor
#

yeah it has a lot of issues

dusky plank
rare condor
#

literally basic delete is wontfix

#

no joke

#

Its insane

#

Also I would like context to understand the moderation changes in the lounge, I have contacted 4 members who regularly hung out here (mods) and they are gone (or otherwise silent on the matter), emojis are missing and the laissez faire nature of chat discussing every day activities, nerd culture and cool projects etc. is no longer present. Can anyone explain what actually happened specifically, behind the scenes?

deft pewter
#

Huh? I see plenty of chat about random crap in here.

#

It doesn't have to be exciting all the time

orchid rose
#

It's pretty much a free area. Maybe people just don't want to spam silly memes and emojis when others are having a decent discussion 😉

deft pewter
#

Much like any other conversation. Don't interrupt when something else is already going on.

#

I loved seeing that guy's drone footage the other day and hearing about their backwards ass rules for take off and landing 😄

rare condor
#

We can debate whether or not they were used as spam, I firmly disagree but we all have opinions and that's fine. But several members did leave due to a disagreement and several mods are no longer active, I never understood what happened. These mods I chatted with for weeks, and loved HASS.

last dirge
#

all emojis are gone?

#

or some emojis are gone?

rare condor
#

some

last dirge
#

👌

rare condor
#

not all

fathom sparrow
#

Only 1 mod left. The rest are taking some time off. No drama related to it.

deft pewter
#

I think there are fewer emojis than before but isn't that just because a server inherits the emojis of all its users?

last dirge
#

who left?

fathom sparrow
#

abx

dusky plank
#

i miss this north european dude

rare condor
#

atx

#

Teddi doesn't seem active?

#

break?

last dirge
#

he's active at night

dusky plank
#

teddi is at least still in the channel

fathom sparrow
#

I think he got married or something.

last dirge
#

I didn't realize how much Norwat chat I've been missing

rare condor
#

yeah

deft pewter
#

Speaking of 'that guy's drone footage', it's that guy 😄

rare condor
#

Ok so Atx left because emojis removed and other mods got busy?

fathom sparrow
#

pretty much

last dirge
#

someone talking about my shitty drone video?

fathom sparrow
#

but i don't think atx even said anything to anyone. He just.. left.

deft pewter
#

I don't think he left because the emojis were removed. Probably the emojis were removed because he left 😉

rare condor
#

huh

dusky plank
#

i want that secret channel sauce

rare condor
#

no there was 100% disagreement on use of "pepe"

fathom sparrow
#

it could be 100% unrelated to the emojis. Only atx knows.

rare condor
#

I saw end of that

last dirge
#

there's some pretty damn amazing open source software for photo and video editing

#

like, it's completely surprising that it's free

rare condor
#

I had my reservations of its use tbh

last dirge
#

when it's sometimes better than paid versions

deft pewter
#

I missed that but I'm not surprised people would be annoyed at it. Especially with how it was co-opted by certain groups.

fathom sparrow
#

That's pretty much why it was removed. We don't want home assistant associated with those groups. Pepe unfortunately has a bad stigma about him.

#

And he wasn't specifically targeted. We just turned off emojis from other servers.

deft pewter
#

Not a bad move, tbh.

fathom sparrow
#

So, no big conspiracy theory.

rare condor
#

But was that the cause

#

It makes sense in all fairness

deft pewter
#

Going back to your earlier point, I can't say I've noticed a change in tone here. Maybe some of the faces have changed but it's still pretty chill.

#

I'm probably the grumpiest one here and only cos I try to direct people out of here that aren't just here to chat.

rare condor
#

I was told my influx question was a support question, I'm still salty 😛

#

partly /s

deft pewter
#

I didn't see anyone tell you that 😉

#

If people wanna talk tech here, that's cool. Most of us are nerds, after all.

#

Just sometimes an innocent 'tech question' is actually a precursor to a support question.

#

That's why the bot has that 'don't ask to ask' message 😄

rare condor
#

Is HASS a proxy for Google? I have found code that will blow your mind. Listen to my Podcast: HASS the big tech conspiracy!

last dirge
#

HomeAssistant sued by Disney for Trademark infringement

#

Disney argues that Nabu Casa infringes upon their intellectual property

#

click my affiliate link to find out more

#

<insert clickbait thumbnail here>

night zodiac
#

I'm trying to find the picture of them cutting the bean into pieces

forest edge
#

everyone needs a break from time to time

night zodiac
#

I come to HA to get my break

last dirge
#

NO DAYS OFF

night zodiac
last dirge
#

that conspiracy theory guy got a mandated break

orchid rose
#

nooooo, why him

rare condor
#

anyone have a conspiracy they believe?

orchid rose
#

Quite a few actually

rare condor
#

I believe for decades, tobacco companies buried evidence that smoking was deadly.

#

Also E.T. video game is buried in the desert of New Mexico.

#

Companies are not paying taxes and using tax "loopholes"

last dirge
#

those aren't conspiracies

#

those are true

#

there was a recent documentary about the ET game

#

LOL, "recent"

fathom sparrow
#

yeah that was the NES et game

last dirge
#

it was 6 years ago

#

no, Atari ET Game

#

it's called "Atari: Game Over"

fathom sparrow
#

whelp, maybe this confirms it's a conspiracy!

last dirge
#

Illuminati confirmed

dusky plank
#

i strongly believe this covid nonsense was just created to distract the people from the fact that pidgeons are controlled by the government

last dirge
#

nah man

#

birds aren't real

dusky plank
#

back to topic

#

why is pepe bad?

#

i expect a pro/con list

last dirge
#

co-opted by white nationalists

#

con

night zodiac
last dirge
#

yeah, I know what that says

#

that's how it started

#

then they were like "hey, don't mind if I do"

#

same with the 👌

#

started out as a 4chan joke

#

then they decided "that's not a bad idea"

night zodiac
#

I've never seen either of them used outside of their normal usage so I guess I'm on the right parts of the internet

dusky plank
#

the „right“ part

night zodiac
#

I'm all about that /giphy command, I never was into speaking with emojis

#

I'm here, I might be in the wrong parts

forest edge
#

think the pepe is just a symbol of immaturity for most

night zodiac
#

I'm in some discords where the twitch emojis are used super common but they are all so small on my screen that it just all turns into a frog for me

#

or a tiny face of some sort

forest edge
night zodiac
#

I am an alt text reader

cinder heart
#

I've been away from HA for a while. One very specific requirement I have is that HA must run in Docker in the server rack, which is a metal cage and away from everything. So any interfaces to zwave and telldus must be done via remote rpis. Same as the USB interface to the DMX lighting in the home cinema + RS232 control interfaces to equipment. Does HA easily support remote data collection nodes at this point?

deft pewter
#

HA questions, huh? Keep them outta my lounge! 😄

dusky plank
#

@cinder heart yes it does. you might need to use usb2ip, i already had that working for me.
but anyway you are in #the-water-cooler, no support here

wintry crater
#

😄

#

lounge is for beer talk

cinder heart
#

oh, sorry. Thanks.

deft pewter
#

Does cognac count too?

turbid stirrup
deft pewter
#

I'm getting too old for beer, fancied a bottle of something different for a change.

turbid stirrup
#

Someone mentioned beer?

deft pewter
#

Is that a stout?

turbid stirrup
#

Double, though I had an imperial stout earlier tonight

deft pewter
#

I've never heard a beer called a double before. Google says it's a strong brown ale. I like the sound of that.

turbid stirrup
#

Sounds like you've not been to the NL or Belgium before.
It tends to be sweet and somewhat stronger than a pilsener

#

Doubles are my favourites

deft pewter
#

You would be correct. Most of Europe except for the north.

#

I do like amber/ruby ales. If I ever see a dubbel, I'll try one.

left geode
#

so what is the best way to install home assistant in your opinion

deft pewter
#

See the various install channels and read their topics to see if you're in the right one.

#

But first, read the topic of this one.

echo igloo
#

I want to educate myself a little on how to make use of my extensive collection of arduino compatible components, and perhaps use some of them to enhance my daily life with Home Assistant. Where would you suggest I start reading?

deft pewter
#

🤦‍♂️

#

Reading topics is a good start.

#

Man, I'm a killjoy.

forest edge
#

Google is awesome as well

echo igloo
#

Thanks. I'll leave you to it, then. And use Google.

forest edge
#

there are so many ways to use an external source like arduino pi etc with ha with too many sensors and other crap. there is no one spot

deft pewter
#

You can ask on this server, just do it in a channel that doesn't specifically say 'NO HOME ASSISTANT SUPPORT HERE'. #diy-archived sounds like a good fit.

forest edge
#

once you find a method and then need to ask a question, then it will help point you in the right direction

echo igloo
#

Agreed. Sorry I asked here. I will try to #diy-archived it via Google instead.

#

Anyone here with homebrew interests?

#

That has to be a lounge question, right?

shy comet
#

last time i heard of homebrew was when i hacked our wii lol

echo igloo
#

lol
That doesnt sound like it tasted beer afterwards...

shy comet
#

hahh

wintry crater
#

i hacked nintendo switch for my wife to get all animal crossing items, it was homebrew 😄

last dirge
#

homebrew's a framework on macos

wintry crater
#

also this ^

shy comet
#

@wintry crater i just got my switch but not sure i wanted to hack it....seems some of them is more difficult to do it

last dirge
#

OT: Thingiverse must have TWO hamsters running on the wheel today

static schooner
#

you'd think they could print as many as needed

shy comet
#

@last dirge sometimes one of them falls off though

last dirge
#

it's fast right now

shy comet
#

pretty sure its the one that powers the DB

last dirge
#

in 5 minutes? who knows

shy comet
#

hahah

#

they need a water break 😛

#

i noticed one thing

#

if you see the "something went wrong" error on an item page

#

you can add /zip to quickly download it

last dirge
#

shit, I jinxed it

shy comet
#

lol

last dirge
#

page 4? nah

#

too far

shy comet
#

what i hate most is when your doing a search and try to go a few pages in and it says search not found

#

hahah

#

yea you gotta start over and go back to it if it lets you lol

wintry crater
#

@shy comet you can clone ur switch mmc to sdcard and use it more safely, just remove sd card and ur switch is back original

last dirge
#

Costco's got the Mavic Mini on sale right now

shy comet
#

you got a link to that @wintry crater ? everything i saw required some hardware mod

wintry crater
#

the only hardware mod you need

#

😄

shy comet
#

is that some bent solder? lol

wintry crater
#

paperclip 😄

#

funny enough, you can find premade "paperclips" on amazon

shy comet
#

wow

wintry crater
last dirge
#

back in the day we used to call those" ejectrodes"

prisma breach
#

hey folks Im new here. Just saying hello to you all.

midnight adder
#

🙏

night zodiac
#

salesforce sandboxes take so long to refresh

static schooner
#

yer in the wrong place

#

and "hashio"? lol

last dirge
shy comet
#

😄

left geode
#

i spelled it wrong 😅

night zodiac
#

blaze it

tidal bronze
#

@shy comet you ready for this heat ?

shy comet
#

yea i jsut saw that warning

#

usually when they say 107 its in the 110s

tidal bronze
#

Palm springs 120+ again.

shy comet
#

WOW

tidal bronze
#

I honestly don't get the vacation homes in palm springs concept.

shy comet
#

yea you go there once and your like damn forgot about the miserable heat

tidal bronze
#

LMAO

#

50 degree swing for the HVAC, good times.

midnight adder
#

any air conditioning expert here? i feel like every american is one

wintry rain
#

Any experts on VM versions of home assistant? Really need some help after moving to VM

midnight adder
#

not an expert but I do run it in VM

last dirge
#

Thingiverse and HTTP response codes greater than 400

#

@tidal bronze does it cool down at night though?

#

in the really shitty parts of the summer here it stops getting below 85 at night

#

never really cools down

tidal bronze
#

62~64

last dirge
#

also, the humidity is OBSCENE

tidal bronze
#

no humidity here : -)

last dirge
#

currently 87

#

real feel 97

#

only 57% humidity ATM

#

but it's about to rain

#

which will probably only be short enough of a storm for the rain to hit all of the hot stuff and turn into steam

tidal bronze
#

83 read feel 83, 31%

last dirge
#

OH JOY

midnight adder
#

30.5 C inside??

wintry rain
#

@midnight adder wanna help a guy out?

midnight adder
#

well if I know how to, go ahead and ask

last dirge
#

NAH

tidal bronze
#

Can take any heat not humidity.

last dirge
#

I like it when sweating does nothing so you just get hotter

#

it's my favorite thing

tidal bronze
#

LMAO

last dirge
#

"why's your shirt soaked?"

#

"just for looks, obvs"

tidal bronze
#

Last year was in FL Disney to meet up some friends. Stayed in the room for a whole week. No thank you.

shy comet
#

thingiverse back to loading 20% of the page lol

vale vault
last dirge
#

are you asking about the devices themselves?

#

or if they'll work with hass?

vale vault
#

trying to troubleshoot a problem with a google maps device tracker

last dirge
vale vault
#

thanks Brian 🙂

last dirge
#

since that's almost purely software

forest edge
#

Last year was in FL Disney to meet up some friends. Stayed in the room for a whole week. No thank you.
@tidal bronze what's the matter, can't handle a few old people and some humidity?

tidal bronze
#

Lol

forest edge
#

was because your skin started to absorb some moisture for a change and you felt heavier and less gritty huh

#

like a dry sponge in a bucket of water lol

last dirge
#

on Amazon ordered quantity of 2 of something

#

shipped in 2 separate packages

#

from two different warehouses

tidal bronze
#

@forest edge when you are not used to humidity it's torture. 🙂

forest edge
#

@tidal bronze yea going from weighing 90lbs to 200lbs simply by stepping off an airplane would be torture lol

#

prob a sign in the FL airport for west coaster stating, "Please don't be alarmed! your shoes and clothes will fit again after you leave the state"

last dirge
#

"please remember to chew your air before you inhale"

forest edge
#

taste like buffet

last dirge
#

I told my wife I was getting her some stuff to set up her home office a bit better: monitor, speakers, webcam, external keyboard and mouse

#

she says "my laptop's already got a camera"

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so today I was showing her how to use it all and the new camera came on and she went "holy crap"

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vindication!

forest edge
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wut

last dirge
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she was surprised the 1080p camera with a stereo mic array was better than the one that fits in the bezel of her laptop

forest edge
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ah she no longer looked like a player from minecraft. gotcha

tidal bronze
steel crag
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@last dirge are you in FL ? LOL Those temps sound like mine

forest edge
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@tidal bronze may wanna brush off some of the crud you got on the first corn cob

tidal bronze
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Shittier the grill better the taste. Come on now.

forest edge
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i was about to make a comment, you edited that in time

tidal bronze
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Lol. I know gotta be super careful when GTS is around 😜

orchid rose
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Americans and their corn

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rest of it looks real nice tho

jade tartan
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hey guys

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see recommended is still 32 bit for OS install

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any reason to not go with 64 bit?

wet pilot
hushed basalt
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@rare condor have you ever heard of people feeding dishwasher/front loader cold inlets with warm water from a tempering valve,

brisk glen
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What was that tensorflow with a network api called?

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Started with a d I think

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DOODS!!!

rare condor
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@hushed basalt yes and people connecting hot water directly as well

hushed basalt
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I would worry about hot water being too hot and the machines fault coding

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I feel like you would need a water circulator on an automation to make it effective though

last dirge
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@steel crag nah, I'm just north of Atlanta

jade tartan
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lol hassio can run a mc server?

rare condor
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@hushed basalt It voids warranty and any minor benefits in preheated water are subtle at best. They did some tests on my energy efficient home fb group to show very minor improvement at the expense of warranty void and possible issues (honestly not worth it imo).

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Plus expense of a tempering valve

hushed basalt
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Yeah it's certainly not worth it for most

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But I wonder if cycles are considerably shorter

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Say 3 hour washer cycle to 2 hours

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I wish tempering valves were more standard in aus

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Everywhere in europe we went had thermostatic mixing valves on showers

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Was great

turbid stirrup
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@hushed basalt I always struggle with how backwards showers without a thermostatic valve are, after using such all my life.
Just like driving stick versus automatic

hushed basalt
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Yeah us Australians are Neanderthals :(

static schooner
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I'm dealing with that now in my house. I've automated a recirc pump/valve, and I have to monitor water usage and turn off the pump if I "detect" that I'm probably taking a shower. Otherwise, I'm periodically scalded as the pump kicks on

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one of these days I'll renovate my master bath and install some modern plumbing fixtures

rare condor
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@hushed basalt One of the nicest upgrades I did recently was a instant water heater temp controller. They are great as you just set the temp and turn hot tap on full. Never touch cold tap, also great to press bath fill and walk away.

hushed basalt
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Auto fill bath would be nice

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So would a bath

static schooner
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managing my hot water recirculator pump may use the most HA code (automations, scripts, Appdaemon) of any single function

wise hazel
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Good afternoon Everyone, Hope that everyone is well. I am looking for recommendations on WIFI door / window open (i am assuming some sort of reed switch) that is compatible with home assistant. Unfortunately the area that i live in has started to get a lot of break ins so i would love to do some basic security stuff to the home we rent.

midnight adder
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Hi @wise hazel
I just checked amazon, and I have to say, teyre all quite expensive.
Also wifi is quite power hungry. Zigbee got better power managment.
For around 25$ you can build your multi vendor zigbee bridge.
https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/getting_started/what_do_i_need.html
afterwards you can use the cheap xiaomi Door or Motion Sensors

zigbee2mqtt.io
What do I need?

📘 Zigbee2mqtt documentation

deft pewter
rare condor
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@hushed basalt Just means your shower isn't water tight enough 😛

hushed basalt
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Okay Google, turn on the thermostat

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Okay turning on 17 lights

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Thanks Google 👍

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i said turn on the thermostat

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I heard turn on the hollow sound, is that correct?

deft pewter
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I blame your enunciation. You need diction lessons.

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Or less alcohol 😄

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I wonder how Alexa/GH cope with rednecks. Do rednecks even have smart devices?

hushed basalt
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Google is just racist against Australians

last dirge
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yeah nah

crimson coral
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I did my first step in home automation 😄

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Installed my Rpi4, HassOS, a zwave controller & a zwave light bulb 😄

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(the last part was anything but easy btw because the bulb was not recognized)

last dirge
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zwave stick?

kindred moat
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Hi

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👋

last dirge
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sup?

dusky plank
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the swell is pumpin

lucid dock
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heh so im about to upgrade from 104.1 anything major I should know about? going through the breaking changes now

crimson coral
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yes Brian, i have the Zooz Z-Wave Plus S2

forest edge
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@lucid dock 104.1? lol

lucid dock
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😄

forest edge
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do a step upgrade that way you can address stuff a few at a time rather then one big bork

lucid dock
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lol

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i forget how to do that

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pip3 install --upgrade homeassistant -v 105 or something?

dusky plank
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  1. select a different channel
  2. ask there
lucid dock
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ehh which channel?

dusky plank
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the one with homeassistant_ in front

forest edge
lucid dock
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pip3 install homeassistant==0.105.0

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think ill go to the core channel though

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im running it in venv

forest edge
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the HA site is your friend

last dirge
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dat venv doe

night zodiac
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I had to read up on them

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I'm not a python person

lucid dock
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heh good call on the incremental @forest edge

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up to 109 now

forest edge
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yea I think they removed groups and a few other things that would impact alot of stuff within that jump as well

last dirge
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oh great

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I get to redo my stuff again?

forest edge
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you don't upgrade often?

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I upgrade once a full jump

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the .# is for the birds lol

last dirge
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no

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the last upgrade was 50 something versions

forest edge
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lol

last dirge
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I'm at 0.103.0

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seems the release pace is slower these days

light trout
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Changed from every 2 weeks to every 3 weeks

last dirge
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which is fine

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it obviously didn't impact me before either 🙂

forest edge
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@light trout 1.3.0b0 is available 🤔

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dosen't b usually mean beta?

light trout
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Yes?

forest edge
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I didn't notice it pushing beta before

lucid dock
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haha i just came from 0.104.1 @last dirge

amber bramble
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all you people on old versions and i'm sitting here running 0.114.0.dev20200729 on my prod box 😛

light trout
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It's been a while (a year or so) since I did it last time @forest edge

last dirge
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until I upgraded I was at something like 0.56.0

lucid dock
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im current now!

forest edge
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interesting, maybe my timing has just always caught the non beta releases being listed lol

lucid dock
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😄

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now i gotta figure out how to install this, looks like i need to install HACS

forest edge
lucid dock
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ya im there haha

forest edge
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and maybe one day will be baked in

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🤞

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oh hey you put them in columns, looks much nicer now Ludeeus

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wtf is automation category?

light trout
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Python script, netdaemon, appdaemon

forest edge
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I click on the plus and nothing happens, is that a coming soon?

light trout
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If you just added it it need to index it

forest edge
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ah

lucid dock
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so does HACS take a while to start

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still says HACS is starting up

light trout
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Yes and no, it is limited by how much you can hit the Github API, if you hit that it will just pause everything to the next reset (every hour)

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The startup of the integration itself takes around 2s

lucid dock
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hmm

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would restarting HA help?

light trout
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No

lucid dock
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arg

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so i gotta wait an hour?

light trout
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Yup

night zodiac
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Lude, does that show in logs when you hit limit?

light trout
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That's how rate limits worls

night zodiac
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just curious

light trout
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If you enable debug logs it shows

lucid dock
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weird i would be rate limited

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never used the github api before 😄

light trout
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With all the repositories in HACS you hit that during the initial setup

night zodiac
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ignore me

light trout
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Done

night zodiac
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LOL

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Lude, did you mean to use "repostitory" or is it meant to say 'repository"

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Idk if you even commited that, I didn't check blame

light trout
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Dont see the difference

night zodiac
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okay

granite hare
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@last dirge really curious how things went going from 0.56 to 0.103. That's a huge jump. I would have just started over 🤣

light trout
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I can stare at it for hours and still don't see the difference 🤷

granite hare
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do it, stare at it for 3 hours

light trout
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Nah

granite hare
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you dare defy me?

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😢

last dirge
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@granite hare wasn't too bad, most stuff just worked

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I had to redo a few integrations

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cast, generic camera, maybe one more

lucid dock
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maybe i should try to get my smart lock configuration working now that im on the newest

lucid dock
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OMG i got it to work

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lol

night zodiac
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nice

turbid stirrup
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What is this work you speak of? This is the lounge!

dusky plank
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i recently had a bunch of kids at my place. i needed to re pair all my tradfri bulbs.

lucid dock
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ok something wrong with my HACS

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did not install i dont think

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not showing up in side panel anymore and when i click on options in integrations it says "Please wait while the integration is being installed"

deft pewter
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This is not a support channel

velvet horizonBOT
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The topic of this channel is:

NO HOME ASSISTANT SUPPORT HERE (look at the other channels for that). NO POLITICS OR RELIGION!

BE CIVIL to one another or get BANNED permanently.

Command '.topic' was invoked by: mono
lucid dock
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didnt there used to be a general support channel

last dirge
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yep

static schooner
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you're kinda expected to do first-level triage yourself

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via channel topics

deft pewter
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It doesn't really matter what channels used to exist. The rules are to read topics and only post in the right place.

forest edge
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did someone skip breakfast?

last dirge
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TIL: Sacha Baron Cohen voiced King Julian in Madagascar

forest edge
last dirge
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Herman Cain apparently died from the rona

trail crag
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went to trump rally june 20, tested positive june 29

last dirge
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it's a hoax tho

trail crag
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and whoever handles his twitter feed kept up the hoax angle all the way through. crazy.

forest edge
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@trail crag how did you handle it?

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i mean did it get bad for you or just mild?

last dirge
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he was talking about Cain