#the-water-cooler

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clear ferry
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USA is going to be a no fly zone for the most of the world until the end of 2021

last plaza
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@clear ferry life long supply of jumper cables or you becoming a reseller?

clear ferry
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Reddit reposting

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But I ordered twice that amount a while back

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So I have in all genders now

last plaza
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Wish there is an easy way making your own jumper cables using some crimper tool.

clear ferry
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There is

last plaza
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Then you can make custom lengths and all combinations

clear ferry
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@hushed basalt ordered some

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Because he is a weirdo

last plaza
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Why not buy that then? One time deal

clear ferry
last plaza
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lol

clear ferry
last plaza
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Great weather yesterday and today. Rode about 5 hrs in two days so far.

hushed basalt
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By jumper cables you mean breadboard/header jumper cables

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Not car jumper cables right

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If so you're looking for a Dupont crimper set

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Something like this

last plaza
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I’d buy that!

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The whole kit.

hushed basalt
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The JST connectors you might not use often

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But they're keyed which is useful so you don't unplug a cable and plug it back in the wrong way

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That too

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You'd probably use JSTs wherever you're doing semi-permanent devices

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Like wiring up custom switch plates, connecting off the shelf modules together and putting them into semi-permanent installation in your home

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But just search your local amazon or equivalent for a Dupont JST crimping set

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I believe you can use the same die for both types of connectors

wooden sonnet
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Hi everyone

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I have a question if anyone can give me some quick advice pls

clever mortar
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check the channel topics before asking, so you ask in the right place 😉

wooden sonnet
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Ok

clever mortar
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If you're about to ask anything about Home Assistant, this isn't the channel 😉

wooden sonnet
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Ok, not sure where the best channel is to go, if I ask you can send me in the right direction if that's ok

clever mortar
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Well, summarise and we'll direct you

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#general-archived is a good fall through if you can't work it out from the channel names and topics though

wooden sonnet
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I'm using g tasmota, do I need to use MQTT account

dull chasm
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or here if you warn me and i can chain up tink

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dang too late

clever mortar
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Or their own Discord server

velvet horizonBOT
wooden sonnet
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Thanks

clever mortar
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Their docs explain how to connect it to HA 😉

wooden sonnet
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👍

spare quest
night zodiac
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I have a stream deck that I don't really use for anything, lol.

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I have a hakko soldering iron too but different model

eager yacht
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Trying to find a smart display seems impossible for something that can do everything..

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Pi+display here I go

spare quest
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Just got a Fire tablet yesterday, I'm going to give that a shot. Plus of course the HASwitchPlate when I finish soldering it up.

cold silo
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Does this mean that a CyberPower UPS is only good for like 4 years?

clever mortar
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Batteries have a life span

night zodiac
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3-5 years is what you expect buying a battery.

clever mortar
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Sounds like they're saying that they only warranty the batteries for 3 years, which seems sane

night zodiac
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generous to me

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people will abuse them with heat and high loads

scenic radish
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Plus the batteries are replaceable so it's not like you have to throw out the entire UPS

night zodiac
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I need to play around with apcupsd and see if I can get a connection to my UPS to the pi running hass

clever mortar
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NUT 😉

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Network UPS Tools

night zodiac
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googles

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hrmm, not sure if I am compatible

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ahh, the factory software has a different model number than the amazon listing, neat.

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I think I am supported assuming Back-UPS XS 1500 is similar enough to Back-UPS XS 1500M

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ahhh, very cool. the plugin can act as a NUT client OR server

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thanks @clever mortar

clear ferry
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I love nut

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I had never touched it before I bought my two ups'

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But damn it is nice

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Both on freebsd and Debian

clever mortar
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Yeah, I started using it... well, "some time" ago and it worked really well back then

clear ferry
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In the roaring 20s you say?

clever mortar
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1820s, yes

clear ferry
night zodiac
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okay, I ate some food. Let me see if I can get it going

night zodiac
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okay, that was easy

clear ferry
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nutButton is awesome

night zodiac
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hell yeah, she's on the dash

clear ferry
night zodiac
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I've just added the default sensors. I need to add some more.

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maybe a cute gauge like you have, not sure

clear ferry
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I just made that view for you right now while sitting on the crapper

night zodiac
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haha

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I am on day 3 or 4 of the HA adventure. I can't remember.

clear ferry
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I don't focus too much on the UI, just for when I need to check something quickly

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Otherwise stuff just happens

night zodiac
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my glance card is probably good enough for me

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I'm googling to see what people use to trigger shutdowns

clear ferry
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I do shutdown of my freenas box if the power is gone for more than 3 minutes

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The rest I don't care much for

night zodiac
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yeah, I would just like to shut down my main PC incase I'm gone so the everything else stays alive for quite a while

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after a certain amount of minutes as well

dusky plank
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how easy is it to detect stunnel connections with dpi?

clever mortar
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If you're looking, easy enough

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Tunnels stand out like a neon sign

dusky plank
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my company uses a strict proxy config, 443 and 80 everything else locked down (udp of course too)
what would you suggest?

clever mortar
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Well... do you like being employed?

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Because, if you get caught, that won't be a consideration any longer 😉

dusky plank
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not really 😄

clear ferry
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People follow company guidelines? I would never get anything done

clever mortar
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Yeah, but the trick is to either not get caught, or have enough dirt on those in power that it doesn't matter

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Pragmatically, getting caught depends on the competence of those responsible for network security

night zodiac
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you guys get stuff done?

clever mortar
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I drink lots of coffee and have lots of chats... that counts?

clear ferry
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Or have enough power over the managers three levels above you that your can tell them to get you a cup of coffee

night zodiac
dusky plank
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i mainly need it to access soundcloud 😛 those bastards

clear ferry
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I just always know what I am listening to

night zodiac
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your work doesn't allow music?

clear ferry
clever mortar
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Unlimited mobile data FTW

dusky plank
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nah, soundcloud, yt, spotify all streaming services locked out

night zodiac
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I am trying really hard to not ask what you do

clever mortar
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Just ask, nobody tells the truth anyway 😛

dusky plank
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software engineer in a company with solutions for banking

night zodiac
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but text editors and music go so well together

clear ferry
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Just wfh

dusky plank
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productivity over 9000

night zodiac
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PowerChute has been uninstalling for 15+ minutes

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I remember doing this in the past and it went through all of a sudden

dusky plank
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I can use HA and terminal addon etc without problem, isn't that using a websocket tunnel too?

clever mortar
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plugin?

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There's no "plugin"

dusky plank
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addon, mi scusi

clever mortar
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Maybe, depends on how that operates, and how you access it

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As I said though, depends on how much attention your IT security folks pay...

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If the answer is not much have at it 😉

dusky plank
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well I can now reach both openvpn/tls and https on my home ip on port 443, ssl termination is done with stunnel and sslh sends the packets either to nginx or openvpn... so I think this is indistinguishable from each other

clear ferry
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You guys have it security people?

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To be fair, I have to do a cyber security training every year

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That really is as advanced that if you fail it.... You shouldn't work in my company

dusky plank
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plain openvpn is filtered, opevpn via https works

strange vapor
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@dusky plank Used to use that along with corkscrew to get around stupid proxies at my uni. If they attempted to see what was on port 443 https, they got a web login for webmail 😄

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corkscrew is just a handy way to get ssh through a socks proxy onto the ssh that was listening on port 443.

dusky plank
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hmmmm I can use that too in my setup I believe

clear ferry
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Was SSH invented when you went to university @strange vapor ?

strange vapor
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@clear ferry We still had a Vax lab, but by the time I was there, it was mostly PC 😄

clear ferry
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Who am I kidding, the network in my school up to third year of vocational school was 10base2/5

strange vapor
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The reason I got into Linux was that the IT deparment in the University were shit, but there was a student computer society (skynet.ie) that had decent Linux boxes!

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Heh, the network in the student village I stayed in was 3Com 10Mb Hubs

dusky plank
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i wonder how well dns2tcp works

gray salmon
strange vapor
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@dusky plank Slow 😄

fringe garden
strange vapor
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I had it setup once, and it worked. Was great for badly implemented Wifi networks who's DNS servers implemented their walled garden, but who still allowed you to hit random dns servers.

brisk glen
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irc over a dns proxy XD

strange vapor
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Back when I was still working in a hosting company, I came across a root kit with a really interesting C&C. It would do an lookup to a CNAME on XXXXXXX.whatever.com and get a CNAME response with a name in a similar style. Turned out that the XXXXX in the initial lookup was a compressed base64 encoding identifying the requesting machine. The response was also encoded with some basic instructions for the rootkit such as which IRC server to connect to.

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It was actually really damn clever.

buoyant quiver
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So I recently learned about XBee modules!

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They are little ZigBee modules that run off 2.1-3.6V, so three rechargeable cells, and have a two mile unobstructed range

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When they're transmitting, they only draw 40 mA, receiving 17 mA, and when in sleep mode, 2 uA!

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They are a microcontroller on their own, and can be flashed to run its own code

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I'm sticking one in a little LED umbrella, and it should be able to run off the solar power pack without any downtime 🙂

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two of the pins on the XBee 3 even does PWM, so I might add a dimmer and transition functionality if I'm feeling fancy 😄

brisk glen
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this is why I want zigbee lightbulbs instead of wifi ones

buoyant quiver
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I hear that

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I like having the switches on HA and using dumb LED bulbs personally

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I don't really have any need for Hue bulbs, myself

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My house is fitted with Lutron Caseta stuff almost everywhere and I love it

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we have something like 55 devices on our network

brisk glen
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I almost went lifix

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my wifi AP supports 1k devices but zigbee would be more reliable with meshing

scenic radish
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i feel like such a hack when writing python... i'm sure there's a better way to do this, but it works lol: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7ZRrNbzggs/
i'm using this along with a cronjob that prints the stdout from this program (cloudflare IP ranges) to a file which is used with my NGINX config

buoyant quiver
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802.11 is a great network, but I think it's overkill for a lot of devices with simpler use cases

brisk glen
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I love 802.11 for everything.. but I need it to be lower power

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aka the standard in wifi 6 I believe is good for iot

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or is it 6e

scenic radish
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ur 6e 😉

buoyant quiver
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also... kind of a crappy reason to use different protocols, but lots of 802.11 devices really want to phone home

brisk glen
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aka why my switches are bluetooth 😒

scenic radish
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zigbee or zwave bois

buoyant quiver
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where did my messages go?

brisk glen
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I can get away with it with a NoT vlan tho

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😄

buoyant quiver
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something happened with my messages and they were deleted?

scenic radish
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discord thought you sent 6 messages in 2 seconds apparently lol

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so it auto-deleted them

buoyant quiver
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is there a bot for that on this server?

scenic radish
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2.18 seconds, to be precise

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i think it's built-in functionality

buoyant quiver
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this is the only place I've seen that 🤔

brisk glen
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what dumpster fires do you reside on? 🤔

scenic radish
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🤔

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lots of thinking going on rn

buoyant quiver
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speaking of reasons to keep your data out of the "cloud" 😄

brisk glen
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NoT vlan is the way to go with a MDNS reflector

buoyant quiver
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like no internet on a vlan?

brisk glen
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block all messages to the outside world

buoyant quiver
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ah yeah, absolutely

brisk glen
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network of things

buoyant quiver
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I block all traffic for stuff that shouldn't access the internet

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hikvision cams for one 😄

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xiaomi gateway 👀

brisk glen
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thankfully my AP supports 1k devices unlike most consumer gear that shit themselves once you pass 100

buoyant quiver
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word

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I hear that

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I got a ubiquiti AP HD (high definition?) that I run into an iptables firewall

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I just can't do anything else now

brisk glen
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use nftables

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its faster in throry

hushed basalt
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@scenic radish I'd recommend not mutating variables in your python script

buoyant quiver
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I was considering nftables!

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I recently did an iptables/nftables migration for work and I really liked it

hushed basalt
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ipv4 = get(url4).text.split('\n')
ipv6 = get(url6).text.split('\n')

ipv4.extend(ipv6)
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You're taking ipv4 as an input and mutating it, bad practice

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I would do something like

addresses = ipv4 + ipv6
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But other than that for a 6 line python script I don't think it needs anything else.

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You can learn about list comprehension maybe to construct the list directly but I wouldn't worry about it for this

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Readability is king

buoyant quiver
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you could also do some exception handling and what not in case there are network issues

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or the server returns a 5xx or something

hushed basalt
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I can't remember if requests can do that

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Interms of exponential backoffs

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Also f strings are nice

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print("set_real_ip_from " + ip + ";")
print(f"set_real_ip_from {ip};")
buoyant quiver
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Although, it's probably a bad idea to use an external resource for your Nginx server

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If something goes wrong, your Nginx server might stop working

brisk glen
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@buoyant quiver not if you do it right

hushed basalt
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I don't even know what this script is for

brisk glen
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nginx can be funky but I use it with docker containers

buoyant quiver
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What if you were somehow given 127.0.0.1/8 as a network?

brisk glen
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there are ways you can make it so nginx does not shit itself when a host is down

buoyant quiver
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what if you get an HTML response?

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could this text be used as some kind of injection for Nginx?

hushed basalt
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Just run bash scripts from http sources as sudo

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Live life on the edge

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On a nightly cron job too

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Maximize your exposure window

buoyant quiver
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what if there's a line that's something like 127.0.0.1/8; config to serve your private keys; ?

brisk glen
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proxy_pass $upstream_proto://$upstream_app:$upstream_port;

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if you set the variables first its ok

scenic radish
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@hushed basalt thanks for the tips. Cloudflare lists their IP ranges and unfortunately they're text lists with line breaks instead of a JSON array or something: https://www.cloudflare.com/ips/

brisk glen
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as for private keys... why on earth would you load them remotly

scenic radish
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I'm using it with my NGINX config so that I see the actual originating IP address

buoyant quiver
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or what about 127.0.0.1/8; content_by_lua_block { os.execute("rm -rf /"); }; ?

brisk glen
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people use lua?

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😛

buoyant quiver
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wanna find out? 😉

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tl;dr: I would probably add some sanity checks for the data retrieved 🙂

hushed basalt
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sanitize all the things

scenic radish
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@buoyant quiver good points, I'll just keep this for manual runs

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I'll go crawl back in my hole now

buoyant quiver
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😄

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Noooo

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You're totally on the right track 😄

scenic radish
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😛

brisk glen
scenic radish
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I'm (slowly) learning Python and basically using any excuse to write something new lol

buoyant quiver
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Oh very cool!

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It's a really neat language

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Easy to work on HA when you have a little Python knowledge 🙂

fallen furnace
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Python is a beautiful language

forest edge
unreal orbit
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder

scenic radish
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I like that I can not do most of the work by just importing modules lol

forest edge
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they need to make the custom button card an official card

unreal orbit
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So more like “I like that others have done the work for me”

scenic radish
unreal orbit
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Pretty much modern programming in a nutshell

scenic radish
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Is the word nutshell "nut shell" or "nut's hell"? GWchadThonkery

forest edge
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everything you know is based off something someone like me done when they were kids

buoyant quiver
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I've been writing a lot more ruby these days

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both are great languages

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if you can import a gem or python lib, that's the way to do it

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glue all the already-written stuff together

scenic radish
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More like pooby amirite

hushed basalt
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I need to learn js

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Then ts

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Although what i really need to learn is design patterns

forest edge
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js.. gross

unreal orbit
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Thinking js is gross is so 2005

forest edge
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weird how covid is mainly sticking around costal areas

hushed basalt
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Js is used extensively, so like it or not it's something every developer should know

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I'll probably try and build a simple grocy replacement with node.js to learn it

scenic radish
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weird how covid is mainly sticking around costal areas
@forest edge they must use js a lot

last plaza
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weird how covid is mainly sticking around costal areas
@forest edge I think it’s because most people prefer python these days.

scenic radish
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@forest edge

last plaza
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@forest edge

scenic radish
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|| @forest edge ||

velvet horizonBOT
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@last plaza Discord isn't like IRC, you don't have to tag people on every response. Keep in mind that every time you tag somebody, they get a notification ping. That can very quickly become annoying and people may block you.

last plaza
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Thank you @scenic radish

scenic radish
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yw

last plaza
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@scenic radish you are the best

scenic radish
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😘

night zodiac
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I don't get it

scenic radish
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look a little above that picture

last plaza
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Yup. Just catching up.

last plaza
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That guy’s face look very plastered!

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So many devices..!

scenic radish
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"what's a zigbee?" lol

last plaza
velvet horizonBOT
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The topic of this channel is:

@scenic radish NO HOME ASSISTANT SUPPORT HERE (look at the other channels for that). NO POLITICS OR RELIGION!

BE CIVIL to one another or get BANNED permanently.

scenic radish
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#piss-off @last plaza

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😛 😛 😛 😛

last plaza
scenic radish
last plaza
scenic radish
last plaza
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What the!!!!!!!!

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Somebody got boosted

scenic radish
last plaza
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👹

scenic radish
last plaza
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You can change # now?

scenic radish
night zodiac
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the discord identifier?

last plaza
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Yes.

night zodiac
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you've been able to for a long time

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nitro

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it returns to your OG # if you lose nitro status

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I changed mine. wooo

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getting wild

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I was wrong. It gets randomized if you don't pay for nitro

scenic radish
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i just bought nitro classic, so i can't change it

night zodiac
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classic used to have it, pretty sure

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back before classic was classic

forest edge
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@last plaza @scenic radish @last plaza @scenic radish @last plaza @scenic radish

scenic radish
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@buoyant quiver alright, how about this? made a bash script for manually updating it. prints the output to the console first before asking for confirmation to update the file: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XTVPPVktTn/

night zodiac
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@night zodiac @night zodiac @night zodiac @night zodiac

forest edge
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marvels agents of shield is getting weirder and weirder lol

last plaza
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Do people still watch those?

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@buoyant quiver alright, how about this? made a bash script for manually updating it. prints the output to the console first before asking for confirmation to update the file: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XTVPPVktTn/
@scenic radish you could have done the whole thing in python itself

scenic radish
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i suck at python

last plaza
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No you don’t. You did so many things so far. That’s nothing.

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If you could do in bash, you could do in python. It’s just syntax difference

scenic radish
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true, i guess it's just a print() statement, input() statement, and python syntax for writing to a file

last plaza
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Yep

night zodiac
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I'm getting more and more anxious as phnx types his message.

wet pilot
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with open('foo.txt', 'w+') as file:
    file.write('get bent')

night zodiac
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lol, that must have been fun to type on mobile

wet pilot
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Yeah...

night zodiac
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I used to have a keyboard specifically for typing code

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it was ugly as hell

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android

wet pilot
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Heh

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Google Gboard isn't too awful

night zodiac
wet pilot
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That's kinda sweet

night zodiac
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I don't ssh from android really anymore though

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but that keyboard was super useful for shortcuts and such

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control + c and thangs

scenic radish
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i have since removed the useless ips string

last dirge
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@night zodiac why swiftkey over gboard?

night zodiac
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I have been using it since before gboard but it lets you customize the layout and sizing pretty well. I like to swipe type too.

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it looks like gboard lets you swipe type one word at a time, that's neat

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I like to make my keyboard smaller so it doesn't touch the edges of my screen, not sure if you can do that on gboard

last dirge
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you can

night zodiac
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nice. I have just used it a long time since before there was a decent google keyboard. my muscle memory gets wonky when i factory a phone and I go back to swiftkey

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oh, I am looking at the resize on gboard, it's a bit different

last dirge
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put it in one-handed mode

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then you can do a bunch of resizing and positoning

night zodiac
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ahh, I was just reading a blog

ancient anchor
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@scenic radish python is 😍

scenic radish
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I'm very much a novice but I like it

night zodiac
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sonofa

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https://i.imgur.com/z1Rkw5P.png
https://i.imgur.com/ZeolFkt.png
https://i.imgur.com/qJiqEDB.png
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wait, when did I accidentally switch to imgur on sharex 😮

scenic radish
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My only programming experience before dabbling in Python is BASIC, so in other words... None

static schooner
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Put < > around links

midnight adder
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hello i'm less than a week into HA and want to add this custom Theme into my AppDaemon dashboard but don't know which files go on which folders

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could someone please help me?

static schooner
midnight adder
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thx

scenic radish
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np

midnight adder
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is there a way to get past the lovelace "initializing" loop on older ios 9 ipads?

night zodiac
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I wonder how much work it would take to connect my Ember coffee mug

wet pilot
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Does it have an API?

night zodiac
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no, it usually just bluetooths to a phone app. I should be able to see what it is sending and such and recreate it. I have never dabbled with home assistant stuff before.

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I know it has device tracking with bluetooth but not sure if it can connect to devices via BT with python or such

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I tried to google to find something to see as an example but will have to look more tomorrow

scenic radish
wet pilot
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Tedi has lost it

unreal orbit
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Uh oh, someone got nitro

night zodiac
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no, we are just saying very cool things

keen spear
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Hello all~. Just joined.

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Haven't had a chance to use HH, singularitynet, or opencog yet, but been doing a fair amount of reading and interested in giving this a shot.

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Has anyone tried something like this out?

bitter pawn
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nope

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or rather i should say, not I

keen spear
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np

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i'll keep notifications on and see if anyone else has taken a stab

fading zodiac
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I kinda dig the new watchdogs

flat fossil
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is there anything node red can do that home assistant simply cant? I just don't understand why people insist on using both

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legit question

fading zodiac
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No clue

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Well, Node-red might be better for multiple interactions with the same devices

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Automations can be very overwhelming

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I'm not using NR myself, but that's what i guess it is.

hushed basalt
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Writing procedural programming in yaml trigger/condition/actions does get quite tired

flat fossil
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personally I love using yaml. maybe its just a personal preference thing. im not very visual so I don't like the 'nodes' and shit. i'd rather conceptualize the code

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i always want to tell node red people if you can just get past the learning curve with yaml you'll never look back. but who knows. that was the case for me but everybody is different. curious what other people thought about it

turbid stirrup
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It depends on how complex things can get. The multi-sequence and conditions kind of thing from node red feels like the "automate" android app which I love. It's one of the reasons why I went for ha, after getting frustrated with the Homey at my parents' place.

rare condor
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nodered has heaps HASS doesn't Siemens S7 Protocol, TCP IP Control, proper Modbus Integration, PLC extensions etc. basically lots of IoT and PLC stuff HASS doesn't have as its used in industry

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Also I passed all my Exams 🥳

hushed basalt
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Congrats

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🥳

rare condor
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Thanks mate

hushed basalt
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Are you done for the near future

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Oh man github is killing me

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Now I know why none of these install scripts were working

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I recommend git gud at JavaScript if you go nodered

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You will have to write your own functions

rare condor
#

nope, another year after this ...

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I can keep pretending for one more year

clear ferry
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School 🤢

fading zodiac
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Github is fun again

hushed basalt
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I Literally can't do anything without github haha

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I can draw some plantuml diagrams,

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If I can remember the docker command to run the render server

bitter pawn
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sorry about that. please try refreshing

hushed basalt
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God damnit

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I can't even use plantuml

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Since I have a stylesheet on github

clear ferry
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Gitgud @hushed basalt

hushed basalt
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github needs to gitgud so i can git

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Can't even draw UMLs that don't look like 90s garbage 😢

midnight adder
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it's a single command to mirror your pushes to github/gitlab/bitbucket all together. something to think about for the future at any rate.

hushed basalt
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Git is only one small part of the github dependency now

midnight adder
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yes, sadly.

hushed basalt
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I could live with committing locally,

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But none of my CICD works right now, I can't install anything because everything uses github somewhere,

midnight adder
#

an idea that was floated to me recently was mirroring all of the popular repositories on github, and then selling access to them when github goes down. seems evil, but profitable.

clear ferry
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Thepiratehub

strange vapor
clear ferry
hushed basalt
rare condor
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Nice got a good tax return this year

scenic radish
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You could have had that money throughout the year instead WTF

rare condor
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@hushed basalt Did you get a TS100 or TS80P?

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Could I?

scenic radish
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Are you in the US?

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Assuming you are, if you adjust your withholding you can get close to $0 owed/refund on your tax return

rare condor
#

You don't recall all the Aussie Slang I have used mate?

scenic radish
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Oh shit heh

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Sorry m8

rare condor
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fair dinkum forgot me eh? yeah nah, its fine m8

scenic radish
#

Is this when we're supposed to call each other the C word?

clever mortar
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Crazy?

scenic radish
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Cantilevered

rare condor
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usually you preface it with sick or sh*it c**t depending on if your their mate or not

scenic radish
#

Well maybe there's a similar concept with dollarydoo tax laws

hushed basalt
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Not yet @rare condor but ts80p would be my choice

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I've put the brakes on any discretionary spending until we get a mortgage approved

rare condor
#

makes sense

hushed basalt
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Tell that to my wife who spent $400 on a second pram seat for a kid who doesn't even exist yet

scenic radish
hushed basalt
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"sales"

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Ts80p has but better thermal transfer and controller apparently

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So a lot more delivery per watt than the ts100

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Plus the shorter tip is important too

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The ts100 looked way too long

rare condor
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And USB c is nice

rare condor
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It does look long but both irons are really small

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compared to say a weller

hushed basalt
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It's your hand to tip length that's important

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Like try writing by holding a pen at the top end

rare condor
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Yeah true

hushed basalt
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Or if you've ever used to stupid compound pliers

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So unweildly

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Not going to go for that house,

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Seller is dreaming

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There's a new house asking $50k less than their asking in the same street

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Smaller block but larger house, built 2019

rare condor
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Wait didn't you put a deposit down. Or did you just apply for morgage?

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@scenic radish We have a system called PAYG Withholding where your employer determines how much Tax to withhold.

scenic radish
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Ah, got it. No way to manually adjust?

rare condor
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Unless your a sole trader or business you don't decide this

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No, it gets returned to you in tax return, you could ask your employer to better calculate this amount

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Taxation Administration Act 1953 (TAA) covers this

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I learnt about this about 5 minutes ago

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as I clearly am a functioning adult

#

totally not learning important and basic facts about life and money for first time 😣

hushed basalt
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Yeah they don't teach financial literacy in school

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But be damned if you don't know how to bullshit about "movie themes" in year 12 english you'll go nowhere

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We put an offer on a house but I'm glad they're not taking it

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It's got a shit kitchen and doesn't have a good layout that could be renovated

scenic radish
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@rare condor i've gotcha. i have my withholding set up such that i owe a small amount of money when filing my tax return. that way i borrow that money interest-free from the IRS throughout the year instead of the other way around

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the goal is to get as close to 0 as possible, but i'd rather be slightly on the "owe" side

rare condor
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@hushed basalt thats a pretty massive shift in perception on a half million dollar investment

scenic radish
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It's got a shit kitchen and doesn't have a good layout that could be renovated
@hushed basalt i thought "shit kitchen" was some Aussie slang at first

rare condor
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thoughts on first date at 2am on Wednesday 🤔 internet people are sketchy

scenic radish
#

wut?

rare condor
#

I'm using Tinder for first time, and I asked if the person I was chatting to wanting to meet up after lockdown. They suggested they come around at 2am the day after tomorrow instead

scenic radish
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ohhhh lmao

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def gonna get murdered if you do that

rare condor
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I know her on fb, def not murderer, or atleast mutual friend murderer then. 😛

scenic radish
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heh, well yeah that's better then

rare condor
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Not really it means her schedule must be really busy, there is not much other reason to come that late.

clever mortar
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Or they work shifts

rare condor
#

I am going to decline anyway, I only have one bed and it will be hard to sort out logistics of setting up another bed.

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Also meant to be in lock down, so its illegal

scenic radish
#

i think i know a solution to the first sentence...

rare condor
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I know you can buy beds from ikea for like $50 but I can't be bothered

last dirge
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ugh Monday

scenic radish
#

@rare condor is tinder in Straya as much of a dumpster fire as it is in the US?

last dirge
#

check out this weirdness

scenic radish
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well, "was" rather

scenic radish
last dirge
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you can see the one to the right, they started off all that bright green color

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then slowly turned purple

rare condor
#

@scenic radish depends what your looking for, I find most of the women I meet just want to hook up rather than relationships. I have had met a few people that I still play Animal crossing with and chat about electronics, motorcycles etc.

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In saying that I have had some success one person I met became really good friends and we travelled around Japan together

scenic radish
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oh nice! yeah it's definitely primarily a hookup app

last dirge
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back in my day you had to meet people on crazy ass forums

rare condor
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Its really not my scene tbh, but that's how my generation does dating these days. It frustrates me though as we will have a nice dinner date etc. and then they ask to hookup and don't want to take things further.

scenic radish
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yeah that was always the worst

rare condor
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What I find even more off-putting is in most cases, a lot of people get really offending when you decline. But anyway enough about Tinder.

last plaza
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Should we have #geeks-ready-to-mingle channel? 🤣

rare condor
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The gender demographics of most Projects is <9:1

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In my office we have 0, literally 0 women. AT my Uni in my course its 265males to 2 females.

last plaza
#

But...but...but geeks don’t know how to mingle.

rare condor
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I really wish that changed, its pretty dispointing

unreal orbit
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If one is gay then those numbers sound great

last plaza
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We have plenty of female population in the workforce here.

last dirge
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ain't no party like a sausage party

last plaza
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Paradise for gay people

scenic radish
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Sounds like a real banger

rare condor
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I really believe technology is so empowering and regardless of ambitions and passions should be universal

last dirge
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yeah but there's toxic d-bags that keep it a boys club

rare condor
#

Genuine connection, is it because of biology, sexism, public perception? What is the most considerable cause of these numbers?

unreal orbit
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They are all considerable

rare condor
#

I turned down a panel to dicuss gender inequality in IT. Its something I have thought about a lot but I really don't think I should be the one offering input, we have had enough guys speaking on behalf of women.

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The opportunity will present itself again in January, I have a lot of time to think how I should construct that talk. Also it will be my first talk at an event! most likely virtual at this point

clever mortar
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Been involved in similar things... my comment was that:

  1. It's really daft that I'm speaking about it
  2. It's really sad that it's not a female talking about it
  3. My role here isn't to do anything more than provide mentorship and support so that the problem can be addressed
rare condor
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Your a decent person.

clever mortar
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Well, I've struggled with getting involved in these things myself, because, well, I'm part of the problem demographic

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I was in a session where it was asked to the group if people were willing to say why there weren't more involved, and I explained that as part of the problem it felt inauthentic to get involved

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I had some really non-judgemental feedback about how it needs "us" to get involved to fix it

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So, I try

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Of course, it probably helps that I've always treated folks as individuals. I don't really care about race, religion, gender, etc. All I care about is what kind of person you are, and whether you're able to do the job...

unreal orbit
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It's a similar problem to "color blindness". It's really easy to be color blind when you aren't affected by race

rare condor
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I really have to be careful about what I say, but I really really despise the fact that we go to strip clubs, its really common in this industry. I mean how the f*ck are we supposed to have a respectful workplace given that culture

unreal orbit
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Yeah I would not work at a place like that

scenic radish
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@lunar sundial i have 2.4 G set to medium transmit power and 20MHz width, 5G is set to high transmit power, 40MHz width, and i'm using one of the DFS channels since none of my neighbors' equipment supports it cz_smug

lunar sundial
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i only crank it up like 5dbm, nothing too crazy

scenic radish
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2GHz is at 15 dBm, 5GHz is at 23 dBm

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not as much interference on 2.4 as i'd expect given my 11 neighbors in the same building. then again, concrete between floors, the party wall is concrete, and the common area interior walls are brick veneer

rare condor
#

Has anyone pushed illegal power output exceeding FCC regs?

scenic radish
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drown out all your neighbors with 2.4 GHz @ 100 dBm

clever mortar
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It's not hard to exceed regulation power limits

hollow sky
#

It's a bit overkill, even for my plex-setup.
lol its always overkill unless it is a server pc

whole river
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It's my server, I have a ordinary 3700X as my workstation at home.

hollow sky
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oohh

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ok

#

nice

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3700x paired with??

rare condor
#

There is a secret code for my Solar inverter that ignores voltage limits and pushes voltage higher than max to ensure generation is always max, byproduct is grid voltage becomes less and less stable. But it ensures I always get max revenue.

scenic radish
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konami code?

rare condor
#

Asrock Rack X470?

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There are 99,999 possible numbers

whole river
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ROG Strix X570-F, 32GB, 2080TI, 960 M2 🙂

rare condor
#

NO IMPI, NO ECC, NO Server Features

whole river
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@rare condor thats correct, thats my workstation. 🙂

rare condor
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Its fast but all the downsides of consumer hw

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oh right

hollow sky
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Asrock Rack X470?
@rare condor

dude def not

scenic radish
#

so... i really want to add an ESP relay or something that i could wire in to my condo buzzer so i can remotely buzz people in. anyone have any suggestions with that? i have a multimeter so i could check out the wiring in my buzzer

hollow sky
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x570 or b550

rare condor
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I thought we were dicussing servers

whole river
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But yeah, I was cheap and did't go for ECC for my server either.

hollow sky
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i luve pro4

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lol

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that was random

rare condor
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@hollow sky Its the only Server MB available for Ryzen except the MITX variant

hollow sky
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hmm

last dirge
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@scenic radish it's not done via phone?

hollow sky
#

i didnt know that

unreal orbit
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@scenic radish you don't need anything other than a relay to short the button contacts. It doesn't really matter what the voltage is/isn't

scenic radish
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nah, it's a physical buzzer with momentary buttons

last dirge
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it's just a contact closure?

scenic radish
#

believe so

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i have access to the wiring for my buzzer

last dirge
#

d1 mini with a relay shield

unreal orbit
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Or you could get one of those button pressers

scenic radish
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the button has a lot of travel, and i'd like to keep the hardware hidden

whole river
#

@hollow sky what do you use for server then?

last dirge
unreal orbit
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I made sure to select the dark mode for you openeyecry

hollow sky
#

@hollow sky what do you use for server then?
hmm rn prob b550 due to the vrms and the pci gen4

last dirge
#

but seriously, D1 mini and a relay shield

rare condor
#

What would you setup IoT wise for someone who needs the setup to work for the next 5 years with zero maintenance, i.e. I install it and disappear

whole river
#

My ESP8266-devices has worked flawless several years.

orchid rose
#

Any non-cloud based should be pretty solid. I have had some occasional reconnect issues with nodemcu's on some firmwares, but even those work most of the time

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That could be fixed if I disabled the AP mode on them when they can't find the wifi

rare condor
#

My worst decision was hard coding IP addresses and then deleting the source code

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My garage door will always be 192.168.1.200

last dirge
#

static IP no

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reserved IP yes

rare condor
#

meh I was 15 at the time

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I should have known better

#

but it works and like I don't want to touch it

#

At that time I used global variables for everything

unreal orbit
#

Global variables you say?

rare condor
#

I completely missed that ref

clear ferry
light trout
#

Why are you outside?!?!? 😮

clear ferry
#

Because I have to get away from family when you are visiting family once a year

rare condor
#

Its in this werid half english

clear ferry
#

Summer island is the Norwegian name of the island

rare condor
#

Nice didn't know they had 30c Islands in Norway

light trout
#

We do, but not that far up

last dirge
#

you're Norwegian too @light trout ?

rare condor
#

*Winter Island

light trout
#

Don't tell anyone @last dirge 😱🙈

rare condor
#

Why are there are so many Norweigans using HASS?

light trout
#

Who said I was using that? 🤔

rare condor
#

working on

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😛

light trout
#

😅

rare condor
#

surely you run it to test it, or do you just write perfect code everytime 😛

light trout
#

I wish 🤣

unreal orbit
#

So many? What is there like 3?

last plaza
#

Beautiful pictures, @clear ferry

clever mortar
#

Three if you count the dog, yes

last plaza
#

lol. You saw the dog too? I thought imgur randomly shows pictures.

scenic radish
#

such a good show

last dirge
#

Norwegian never-nudes?

scenic radish
#

anyone in the US have a recommendation for a good entry-level dehydrator? i want to make my own beef jerky

tidal bronze
#

@shy comet 👆

#

Master jerkey maker 😆

scenic radish
#

sounds like a real jerk

tidal bronze
#

Indeed he is.

#

Brags about his world class jerky never shared a single piece. 🙄

clever mortar
#

He just needs a bigger trebuchet to be able to deliver them

scenic radish
#

looks up cost of sending a single piece of jerky by mail

clever mortar
#

Surely that depends on the size 🤔

scenic radish
#

if put in an envelope and it's a three ounce piece of jerky it'd probably be $1.50 (three stamps)

unreal orbit
#

Cost of a stamp

tidal bronze
#

He is few minutes out from me.

clever mortar
#

80KG of jerky...

clear ferry
#

I'll send you some @scenic radish it'll reach you by 2022

scenic radish
#

Surely that depends on the size 🤔
I WAS GETTING TO THAT TINKERER

clever mortar
#

Not fast enough...

scenic radish
#

my fiancee says the same thing 😦

last plaza
clear ferry
scenic radish
#

entry level

last plaza
#

They go on sale all the time. I got it for $190.

scenic radish
#

but i suppose the payback period would be fairly short since jerky is expensive

last plaza
#

Eat more jerky then

scenic radish
#

thanks for the tip, i'll add it to the list

#
1. Skala's expensive dry boi
unreal orbit
#

Entry level? Just suck the moisture out with a straw

scenic radish
#

i hate you all

shy comet
#

@scenic radish i just use my smoker personally, no dehydrator here

scenic radish
#

damn

last plaza
#

Back in the days, people used natural sun light to dry things. In our area, we will have 2 months of good sun in a year.

clever mortar
#

Salt... lots and lots of salt

last plaza
#

Yup

scenic radish
#

i suppose i could use nature's dehydrator ™️

unreal orbit
#

bamboo straw?

scenic radish
clear ferry
#

Lawless jerky is some of the best jerky I've eaten

rare condor
#

night all! Any American's I wish you good luck, stay indoors!

scenic radish
#

ugh

clear ferry
last plaza
#

It shows $290+ online, but it goes on sale all the time. I’ve seen it go almost $175 once.

scenic radish
#

oooooo

#

maybe i'll get a cheap one first to see if the jerky i make is a good replacement for the store-bought stuff

clear ferry
#

Teddi is going to jerk his girlfriend

#

Gotta get rid of the body somehow

unreal orbit
#

woah woah woah

#

that's not right

#

fiancee

scenic radish
#

thank you @unreal orbit

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*fiancee

scenic radish
#

@dull chasm 's gonna blow a gasket when he sees this

clever mortar
#

🤣

#

I was just thinking we should have a #gif_wars channel where you're only allowed to communicate with gifs

scenic radish
#

YES

#

@last plaza shot down my idea of an #emoji_only channel though sad

unreal orbit
#

Wait, is it a new thing that discord hides tenor links? I just noticed that mindblown

#

(at least mostly)

scenic radish
#

i also noticed that

#

it's about damn time

#

this free software wasn't meeting all of my most stringent requirements

unreal orbit
#

Time to reeeeee

clear ferry
#

Fjansei

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Or forlovede in Norwegian

unreal orbit
#

I was going to say there isn't an English word for it, but I guess betrothed is our equivalent. Doesn't sound fancy enough though

#

and it makes you sound about 233 years old

clear ferry
#

Sounds like you are from a very southern state atleast

last plaza
#

I hide all the tenor links. Usually the link says what it is. I don’t expand links. Looks crazy on mobile if I expand.

unreal orbit
#

It looks like some of them don't hide until you go to a different channel and come back

last plaza
#

The default is expanded view.

scenic radish
#

we're talking about the link not appearing above the GIF skala

last plaza
#

Ah!

unreal orbit
#

We don't hide gifs because we are intellectuals 🧐

last plaza
clear ferry
#

#330990055533576204 fighting overheating of systems with too many add-ons on a 20 year old laptop

scenic radish
#

lmao

clever mortar
#

Somebody once posted a picture of a case that had been "ventilated" with a shotgun. Oddly the PC didn't work any more

scenic radish
clear ferry
#

@clever mortar did you say @dull chasm ?

clever mortar
#

Not yet

clear ferry
scenic radish
clear ferry
last dirge
#

is that the engineer?

clear ferry
scenic radish
half berry
#

Can someone guide me to support section for NabuCasa ? I am little confused in Discord.....🤔

unreal orbit
half berry
#

Thanks

unreal orbit
scenic radish
night zodiac
#

showers

hearty thorn
#

hi all! I want to monitor home-assistant with check_mk . What is a good place/channel to ask some info?

last plaza
#

@unreal orbit that’s the English of 21st century.

brisk glen
#

@unreal orbit what the fuck?

#

🤢

#

i feel sick after reading that

last plaza
#

Wtf? @rain swift 🤣🤣🤣

#

Who comes up with that shit?

#

😷

hushed basalt
#

@rare condor i bought an LSI card

#

Lsi 9207-8i

scenic radish
brazen fable
#

..

scenic radish
#
-bash: ..: command not found
thick dragon
#

Finally got my house wired with CAT6 on the weekend. Been 10+ years since I've done any network cabling, but decided to do the plugs myself to save some money. Was pretty surprised/impressed that I got them all right on the first try! Got a much cleaner mini network cabinet now, and access everywhere I need it.

#

Only problem is that something seems to keep sending WOL packets to my laptop >_<

scenic radish
#

That's me cz_smug

thick dragon
#

Any idea how i'd find what's sending the WOL packets?

trail crag
#

Wireshark?

scenic radish
#

How do you know it's WOL?

tidal bronze
#

Only magic packet is enabled for the adapter ?

#

There MUST be an easier way to dig holes in the backyard

scenic radish
#

I just mean how does he know it's not something other than WOL

green inlet
#

Does the hole digging have something to do with WOL or am I out in left field again, cause an auger

tidal bronze
#

Hole digging is something else.

#

Gotta dig 15" dia 24" hole. What do I get myself into 🙄

green inlet
#

Rent an auger

tidal bronze
#

Too lazy to head to HD. 😆

#

Going to put this on hold will get someone from HD tomorrow.

hushed basalt
#

What is it

#

Looks like an alien mushroom 🍄

forest edge
#

oversized anal bead i think

#

he said burry so that's why i guessed that

#

maybe i should read the above convo before making guesses

green inlet
#

Probably speakers

#

Why pay HD people, just rent the auger. Done in like 30 minutes. Plus another 30 minutes of chest beating. 1 hour tops.

thick dragon
#

@scenic radish: Because my laptop didn't wake from sleep when on Wifi, but wakes from sleep now that it's on ethernet. Only change is the connection type, so would assume magic packet/WOL.

scenic radish
#

Ah yeah, that's pretty damning, isn't it

green inlet
#

@forest edge , your apparent knowledge of anal beads is.......let’s say.......concerning?

tidal bronze
#

What is it
@hushed basalt underground sub

hushed basalt
#

Sub?

tidal bronze
#

Subwoofer

wet pilot
#

Boom boom shake shake

#

Wubwubwub

tidal bronze
#

oversized anal bead i think
@forest edge you do have a vivid imagination for farm country. 🤣

scenic radish
tidal bronze
#

@forest edge is that what you resort to when lonely ? 😆

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@green inlet you give me too much credit. BTW same or less to get someone from HD.

finite prism
#

Can someone please explain the JEDI and PADAWAN ranks to me?

tidal bronze
#

@scenic radish

velvet horizonBOT
#

The Jedi role (blue) is given to our community members who have proven themselves knowledgable and worthy of helping others. Please do not request to be assigned this role. It must be earned.

#

The Padawan role (purple) is given to our community members who have shown that they are willing to learn, have shown progress toward becoming a bigger part of our community (a.k.a. a Jedi), and try to lend a helping hand to others when they can. Please do not request to be assigned this role. It must be earned.

finite prism
#

thank you

#

HassBot is a wealth of knowledge

tidal bronze
#

@scenic radish send some pictures of the thingee

thick dragon
#

You setting up an outdoor cinema @tidal bronze? Or is it some kind of burrowing pest deterrent?

tidal bronze
#

Outdoor bass is always a task. Doubling up on burial type subs.

#

Just for music.

thick dragon
#

Assume you host lots of BBQs. Very cool!

#

I would love to get a bass shaker in my couch. Have heard it's one of the best home theatre investments.

tidal bronze
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I spend a lot of time in the backyard actually most of my time at home.

They are good but adding 2 or 3 subs around the room is much better.

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Bass is not omnidirectional

green inlet
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2 or 3 subs 🤣. I had one sub in my old setup and my wife was like, “it’s too loud”

tidal bronze
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I drive 4 x 12" subs 😆

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Front and rear

green inlet
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Yes, subs were the best addition for movies. She didn’t like it.

forest edge
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@scenic radish send some pictures of the thingee
@tidal bronze then i come back to seeing this. anal bead guess was a proper guess lol

tidal bronze
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At higher volume bass envelope is pretty good they hardest thing is to get the thump in the right direction at low gains. This is is why I use 4.

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Outdoor base is a nightmare compared to indoor

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Basically you have to sit and move the sub to different positions to find the ideal place for all outdoor listening positions.

green inlet
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95 south had a killer bass song. I can’t find it

scenic radish
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Just put it in the corner of the earth, E Z P Z

hushed basalt
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Get subwoofer chairs

tidal bronze
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Lol

hushed basalt
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Neighbours must love outdoor subs

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Has anyone ever done, or seen any good talks on homeassistant

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40 minute range

tidal bronze
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Neighbours must love outdoor subs
@hushed basalt you mean earth worms?

scenic radish
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@hushed basalt I could probably make something for ya. Maybe put a nip slip in there too

last dirge
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wooo, drone comin tomorrow

tidal bronze
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I could get used to this sub. So stoked. 😀

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More Time outdoors.

midnight adder
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have u guys tried to make your own sex toys with small esp32 boards

bitter pawn
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yawn

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it did not end well

midnight adder
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aint gonna let foreign botnets ruin my wifes pleasure lol\

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full LAN control

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LAN only, no pleasure outside home

last dirge
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teledildonics

rare condor
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I'm not a security guy, but I thought you guys might know, when ssh passwd security is disabled (key auth only) how does one add a new key (for another machine to get remote access) to the server, do you re-enable ssh passwd auth temporality or physically copy the key. Not sure what's best practice.

hushed basalt
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@rare condor did you get your cbus cat5 cable from work

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It seems to be hard to find some without buying a 305m box

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I'm not sure if it's easier for me to try and find a meter with zigbee or wifi for those reasons alone

rare condor
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@hushed basalt What is your goal, did you want to measure subcircuits?

hushed basalt
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Also hit me up with that ssh question

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How is the server set up. Who set it up.

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For my mum, probably not. For my house eventually, perhaps

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Aircon , HWS and pool would be the only things I'd care about measuring indepedently

rare condor
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I set it up, I disabled passwd login to make it more secure but now I want to login from my laptop

hushed basalt
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So potentially 4 meters

rare condor
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You don't have to use CBUS cable

hushed basalt
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Did you put an authorized key on there first

rare condor
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sorry I will come back to ssh question lol too confusing on both subjects

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LWS sell CBUS by the meter, call the branch and check with the wholesaler as it may vary from branch to branch

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but you can just use normal cat5e and put it into heatshrink

hushed basalt
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I have about 900m of cat5/6 so that may be easier

rare condor
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That covers the segregation requirements of AS3000

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notice how the cable entering the smart meter has heatshrink on it

hushed basalt
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Is your submeter screw terminals for the rs485 or rj45

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Ah I see

rare condor
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RS485 using CBUS cable

hushed basalt
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It would be nice if the rs485 was terminated with an rj45 socket

rare condor
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basically if you use cat5e you need to do that all the way to the smart meter

hushed basalt
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I believe cbus says that's a good way for compliance

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Is split automotive conduit suitable instead

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Or unsplit.

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I'm not sure if 800mm of heatshrink might get unweildy

rare condor
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Yes trucking and ducting is suitable, it should have suitable AS/NZ standards compliance, there is a IEC based spec for that

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Basically you need some way segregate it.

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Its extremely common in PLC world to use loom to cover ELV cables to termination

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Once its out of switchboard it requires 50mm separation from LV wiring

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If this is not feasible you can use Conduit, joists or double insulation to isolate the wiring from LV wiring

hushed basalt
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What is LWS, I can't find them on google

rare condor
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Appologies LH

hushed basalt
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Ah yep that makes a lot more sense ;)

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Man wholesalers are the biggest jerks if you're not an electrician

rare condor
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Btw ACMA's spec 009 covers ELV wiring, AS3000 only covers segregation to a limited extent

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They often will and have refused to sell to me before

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They will also charge you a significant premium

hushed basalt
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Were you trying to buy LV gear

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Anyways we can come back to me another time

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Is the ssh your own server?

rare condor
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Sorry just had plumber arrive

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I was trying to buy a Hager MCB

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Had to get sparky on site quote his licence number before they would let me get the gear.

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This was for work though

rare condor
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@hushed basalt My opinion has somewhat changed on the best way to monitor sub circuits, if its just 1-2 use SMD230 or Pulse Counter DIN meter, otherwise IOTAWatt, is cheaper and doesn't use additional DIN slots. If you have limited modules left in your switchboard get an IOTAWatt instead.

hushed basalt
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How do you use an iotawatt legally

rare condor
hushed basalt
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This guy might know

rare condor
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Yeah overeasy is the creator of the IOTAWatt

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I think his response addresses my concerns quite well.

thick dragon
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That individual circuit power monitoring? Wonder if my Fronius Smart Meter will do that. They mentioned something like that.

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Just getting aggregates at the moment.

hushed basalt
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Do you think CT clamps are considerably less accurate than s submeter

rare condor
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@thick dragon You absolutely can you just need additional smart meters, i.e. one for each circuit or a pulse meter but that requires new wiring to the inverter

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@hushed basalt They are less accurate mildly but there has been considerable testing dealing with phase shift of the reference voltage and ensuring the IOTAwatt is accurate

thick dragon
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Yeah, right. So currently just wired for the total draw/generation to grid - not split by circuit.

hushed basalt
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High accuracy isn't too important though I guess

rare condor
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@hushed basalt CT Clamps are standard tool for measuring pump and mining equipment power and current usage

thick dragon
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That's honestly enough for me I think, considering i have smart sockets on a bunch of higher-draw stuff 🙂

hushed basalt
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Does the iotawatt work with a pulse counter too

rare condor
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@thick dragon Yeah likewise my highest usage appliances have zigbee power meters on them

hushed basalt
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I think it'd be useful to measure directly what the meter is reading as well

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What zigbee power meter do you use

rare condor
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@hushed basalt No, it just measures the CT Clamps, its an ESP so you could hack it to record pulses but it would ruin compliance and you could just use another ESP for that

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I use Xiaomi ones

hushed basalt
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My new UPS has power metering inbuilt. I haven't set it up yet though. Waiting for my dupont crimper so I can replace the fans

rare condor
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$19 from Aliexpress

hushed basalt
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Wayy too noisey since it's indoors

rare condor
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Fair.

hushed basalt
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Did you have to change the calibration when not using it with xiaomis hub

young sigil
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@rare condor I read somewhere that installing GPOs in switchboards was not legal in Australia.

rare condor
hushed basalt
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Hax have you seen the new tuya stuff in bunnings

rare condor
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where issues may arise is wiring running out of a switchboard or the IP rating of the switchboard

hushed basalt
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They have inline switches, wall switches, gpo mounts like used for ceiling fans and lights etc

rare condor
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@hushed basalt yep I have heaps of the Grid Connect stuff

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Be careful a lot of it runs the new tuya fw which can't be converted with TUYA-Convert

hushed basalt
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Shame you have to tuyaconvert it. That's the upside of zigbee no flashing

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I thought they fixed that

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Unless tuya has made their move again

rare condor
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Cat and mouse it was fixed before but latest fw patches the previous vun.

hushed basalt
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Also fuck Bunnings. Worst service ever.

rare condor
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Also Tuya has moved to non ESP, Realtek chips for a lot of new gear.

thick dragon
hushed basalt
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:(

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I'll try to stick to ZigBee going forward

rare condor
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Just make sure you check blakadder's repo to ensure its supported first

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otherwise 50/50 chance of it working

thick dragon
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Even most of their newer ESP stuff uses TuyaMCU, which requires a lot more dicking around to get working.

hushed basalt
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I can add a zigbee device to homeassistant in 60 seconds from unboxing to showing up in my states

scenic radish
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Just let us have our fun tuya, damn

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We're still buying your cheap shit

hushed basalt
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I'm over companies locking us out, using our metrics and making our products die on their whim

rare condor
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Yeah but half the Zigbee stuff is hit or miss, all the aqara/xiaomi stuff works great, but I have had issues with both hue and ikea stuff

hushed basalt
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I'm a bit over my google homes for example

scenic radish
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Haven't had issues with my hue stuff, what's going on haxxa?

hushed basalt
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Obvious privacy concerns, locked down, poor feature design, must be on same subnet as HA,

rare condor
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I'm over my Nest

hushed basalt
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What coordinator are you using hax

scenic radish
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Google home works with HA across subnets if you enable mDNS reflection

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Been working fine for me

hushed basalt
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Yeah but then I have to enable host networking on my ha container

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Which I'm not doing

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I'm going to probablt use a remote homeassistant instance with host networking

rare condor
hushed basalt
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And use that to discover and control the google homes

scenic radish
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Boo telco, boo. I boo at you.

rare condor
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Z2M

hushed basalt
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I might put homeassistant on my zigbee2mqtt raspberrypi

scenic radish
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Oh that's super annoying haxxa

hushed basalt
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Just for host networking discovery

rare condor
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@scenic radish My fam no longer trusts it

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so its a no go

scenic radish
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Works fine with my hub partyparrot

rare condor
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Bought a completely different USB module

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the newer better range TI chip

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same issue, all xiaomi stuff 👍

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ikea, phillips and osram 👎

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Like it works but it lags

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takes 2-3 seconds

scenic radish
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Hub works well

rare condor
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Oh your not using Z2M?

thick dragon
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Yeah, I'm also just using the actual Hue integration and Hue hub.

scenic radish
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I use ZHA for other stuff

rare condor
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its 100% Z2M issue not hue issue

thick dragon
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My only non-hue Zigbee device is my lock, which is paired to a CC2531.