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low harness Jul 5, 2020, 10:14 PM

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If you don't like salt, here's a good alternative too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lutefisk

Lutefisk

Lutefisk (Norwegian, pronounced [ˈlʉ̂ːtfɛsk] in Northern and parts of Central Norway, [ˈlʉ̂ːtəˌfɪsk] in Southern Norway; Swedish, lutfisk pronounced [ˈlʉ̂ːtfɪsk]; Finnish: lipeäkala [ˈlipeæˌkɑlɑ]) is dried whitefish (normally cod, but ling and burbot are also used). It is ma...

clear ferry Jul 5, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Jello fish

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In laws eat that

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I dont

low harness Jul 5, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Preferably eaten with red cabbage, because the acid in the preparation turns it green.

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And wobbly

green inlet Jul 5, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Is there a shortage of chicken in Norway and Sweden ?

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All I eat is chicken

clear ferry Jul 5, 2020, 10:16 PM

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We have big coast lines

green inlet Jul 5, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Any fish other than tuna and salmon 🤢

static schooner Jul 5, 2020, 10:16 PM

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chicken of the sea

clear ferry Jul 5, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Whale

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PeepoFat

low harness Jul 5, 2020, 10:17 PM

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herring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickled_herring

Pickled herring

Pickled herring is a traditional way of preserving herring as food by pickling or curing.
Most cured herring uses a two-step curing process: it is first cured with salt to extract water; then the salt is removed and the herring is brined in vinegar, salt, and sugar solution, o...

green inlet Jul 5, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Lobster? Shrimp? Crab?

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That looks like the second stage of my curry banana pizza 🤣🤣🤣

clear ferry Jul 5, 2020, 10:17 PM

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We have this one

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_king_crab?wprov=sfla1

Red king crab

The red king crab (Paralithodes camtschaticus), also called Kamchatka crab or Alaskan king crab, is a species of king crab native to the far northern Pacific Ocean, including the Bering Sea and Gulf of Alaska, but also introduced to the Barents Sea. It grows to a leg span of 1...

green inlet Jul 5, 2020, 10:18 PM

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Yes....those are awesome

low harness Jul 5, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Thing is, chicken cost a lot to feed, and up 'til about the second world war or so Scandinavia was a really really poor part of the world.

rain swift Jul 5, 2020, 10:19 PM

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I bet he loves mountain oysters...

low harness Jul 5, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Fish, on the other hand, is free. Just pick it out of the water.

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But it'd be great if you didn't have to do that in the winter. So you had to preserve it any way you could.

green inlet Jul 5, 2020, 10:20 PM

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I am a southern boy .... I know what those are 🤨

rain swift Jul 5, 2020, 10:20 PM

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not any stranger than everything else we've seen.

green inlet Jul 5, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Bull balls.

low harness Jul 5, 2020, 10:21 PM

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"Great" as in The winter sea outside Norways kills you in minutes. If you're good.

clear ferry Jul 5, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Hence why I shovel snow in my t-shirt

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pepeCoffee

rain swift Jul 5, 2020, 10:22 PM

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they can be the balls of many things..

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does some part of norway look like the shire.

green inlet Jul 5, 2020, 10:23 PM

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One of my favorite jokes, why does the Norwegian Navy have barcodes on their ships?

clear ferry Jul 5, 2020, 10:24 PM

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GWspenderSpongeTriggered

last plaza Jul 5, 2020, 10:25 PM

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So when they get back to port they can scan-de-navy-in

green inlet Jul 5, 2020, 10:25 PM

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So they can Scandinavian (

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You beat me to the punch 🤣

clear ferry Jul 5, 2020, 10:25 PM

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pardon

scenic radish Jul 5, 2020, 10:25 PM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/5cb1114e4f1a94c33812a2c332da0c3a/tenor.gif

green inlet Jul 5, 2020, 10:26 PM

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You can use that at parties Tediore

rain swift Jul 5, 2020, 10:28 PM

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on google maps it looks like 90% green nothing.

green inlet Jul 5, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Norway?

rain swift Jul 5, 2020, 10:28 PM

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yes.

green inlet Jul 5, 2020, 10:29 PM

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I was at the pool today. 90 degrees. I could never give that up

rain swift Jul 5, 2020, 10:29 PM

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heat is over-rated.

green inlet Jul 5, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Couple hours from the beach. Couple hours from the mountains.

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And now that I can get brown cheese on amazon 🤷🏼‍♂️

rain swift Jul 5, 2020, 10:31 PM

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I'm about 25 minutes from the beach.

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Yesterday morning.

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last plaza Jul 5, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Beach is overrated.

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🤣

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It’s like 10 hrs for me ☹️

static schooner Jul 5, 2020, 10:41 PM

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11mins, <4 miles

green inlet Jul 5, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Love the beach and lakes. Love water sports. Also hiking and skiing in the mountains

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Any surfing there Rob?

static schooner Jul 5, 2020, 10:42 PM

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seen it, never done it

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I get a regular surf report on the radio, kind of like I used to get news about pork bellies and field conditions when I lived in central Illinois

green inlet Jul 5, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Ha, that was @rain swift , my bad. Making fish tacos, drinking beer and discording all at the same time

clear ferry Jul 5, 2020, 10:49 PM

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I'll be driving 1700km soon, you'll probably see some norwegian nature pictures

green inlet Jul 5, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Nice. Bet there is some awesome scenery.

last plaza Jul 5, 2020, 10:50 PM

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@clear ferry Drive safe! I don’t want to miss my Christmas gifts 😝

rain swift Jul 5, 2020, 10:52 PM

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@last plaza it is, I hate the beach, wife wanted to go and it was early morning before it got hot or sunny, only time I can stand it.

clear ferry Jul 5, 2020, 10:52 PM

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CatRee CatRee CatRee

last plaza Jul 5, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Sunrise and sunsets are definitely awesome.

rain swift Jul 5, 2020, 10:53 PM

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I just hate sun, heat, salt water...sand......lol.

last plaza Jul 5, 2020, 10:53 PM

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You are in wrong place. You should move north.

clear ferry Jul 5, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Just go to northern Norway, no sunrise or sunset in summer

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EYEBROWS

last plaza Jul 5, 2020, 10:54 PM

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laugh

tidal bronze Jul 5, 2020, 10:54 PM

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@rain swift beautiful picture

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Love to see clouds

rain swift Jul 5, 2020, 10:55 PM

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I am totally in the wrong place, but my wife's parents are still alive LOL.

bitter pawn Jul 5, 2020, 10:56 PM

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gmilfs....

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xD

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 1:04 AM

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@dull chasm got a question. Thoughts on syncing volume across multiple media players ? As in set different levels on certain players ,maintain the different levels while a master adjusts overall +/-

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Example would be locking channel gains on a mixer to master gain proportionally

rain swift Jul 6, 2020, 1:12 AM

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sounds good, no idea how you'd do it.

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 1:12 AM

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Lol.

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Chromcast audio groups does it very well.

rain swift Jul 6, 2020, 1:14 AM

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will that work on all of your media players?

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 1:15 AM

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Unfortunately no. That's what I am trying to accomplish.

rain swift Jul 6, 2020, 1:15 AM

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my point stands lol.

dull chasm Jul 6, 2020, 1:16 AM

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@tidal bronze I have been doing between yam and onk with music cast ...ha sets vol on onk while yam is master .... i want to expand beyond the two i have now

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still have local control and but with adjust loses relative volume (balanced) between the two

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 1:18 AM

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Yep. I am trying to keep the set gains across CC audio group and 3 zones.

dull chasm Jul 6, 2020, 1:19 AM

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i got one cc and one zone with master does well

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but i did find that either the speaker or cc gain is not linear

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 1:21 AM

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What I am trying to sync is this group plus 3 Yamaha zones and have a separate master in HA

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dull chasm Jul 6, 2020, 1:22 AM

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i was doing it that way ...then i went with yam setting gains of other amps/inputs

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 1:23 AM

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But how do you maintain set gains while you change master ?

dull chasm Jul 6, 2020, 1:23 AM

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but ha's funky 0 to 1 gain is a bitch to go to db

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automation based on relitive attentuntion of yam

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 1:25 AM

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Got it. But I my case I need a arbitrary master since even AVR zones would be following the master

dull chasm Jul 6, 2020, 1:26 AM

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hmm so cc does not follow gain set by yam

rain swift Jul 6, 2020, 1:27 AM

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the yam

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Can't follow that. Once I set levels on each zone and CC that needs follow the make believe master.

dull chasm Jul 6, 2020, 1:28 AM

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what would arbitary master be in relative to master

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 1:29 AM

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Basically 7 media players following the arbitrary master.

dull chasm Jul 6, 2020, 1:29 AM

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@rain swift yam equals yamaha ....duh

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 1:29 AM

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But they can't follow each other

rain swift Jul 6, 2020, 1:30 AM

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I figured so, but I do like a good yam

dull chasm Jul 6, 2020, 1:30 AM

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so each of there gains a set by location ....and then a fake master to rule them all

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 1:30 AM

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Yes sir.

dull chasm Jul 6, 2020, 1:31 AM

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we are getting a divorce you are way to complicated

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let me think ... i am not sure if a input slider could fake it

rain swift Jul 6, 2020, 1:32 AM

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anyone got a suggestion for a usb voltmeter?

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found a couple on yamazon

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 1:33 AM

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While you are at it, it would be awesome if, while master is in control any change in individual gains will pull back to set gains at start up. Yep you can divorce now.

rain swift Jul 6, 2020, 1:33 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/KJ-KayJI-Comprobador-multímetro-resistencia-temperatura/dp/B07X3HST7V/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=usb+power+meter&qid=1593999015&refinements=p_85%3A2470955011%2Cp_72%3A2661618011&rnid=2661617011&rps=1&sr=8-6

dull chasm Jul 6, 2020, 1:33 AM

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we split 60/40

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 1:33 AM

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60 yours I take it 😜

dull chasm Jul 6, 2020, 1:34 AM

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of course

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     - service: media_player.volume_set
        data_template:
          entity_id: >
            {% if is_state("input_select.chromecast_radio", "Livingroom") %}  media_player.onkyo_cast
            {% elif is_state("input_select.chromecast_radio", "Master Bedroom") %}  media_player.master_bedroom_cast
            {% elif is_state("input_select.chromecast_radio", "Kids Bedroom") %} media_player.kids_room_cast
            {% elif is_state("input_select.chromecast_radio", "Everywhere") %} media_player.onkyo_cast, media_player.master_bedroom_cast, media_player.kids_room_cast
            {% endif %}
          volume_level: '{{ states.input_number.volume_radio.state }}'

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is one i used to do with radio playing thou out the house controled with a input number

rain swift Jul 6, 2020, 1:40 AM

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denied

dull chasm Jul 6, 2020, 1:42 AM

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🤣

hushed basalt Jul 6, 2020, 1:47 AM

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cough #automations-archived cough

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😄

dull chasm Jul 6, 2020, 1:48 AM

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are you ok?

hushed basalt Jul 6, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Is any of us ever truly okay

rain swift Jul 6, 2020, 1:49 AM

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normal people scare me.

green inlet Jul 6, 2020, 1:49 AM

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I was born ok.....but life

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Oh, and HAss

rain swift Jul 6, 2020, 1:50 AM

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this seems to be a popular one.
https://www.amazon.com/Digital-Multimeter-Current-Detector-delivery/dp/B07P252NY2/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=usb+power+meter&qid=1593999015&refinements=p_85%3A2470955011%2Cp_72%3A2661618011&rnid=2661617011&rps=1&sr=8-7

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 2:03 AM

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but life Oh, and Ass
@green inlet read it while driving and made perfect sense for a few seconds🤣

hushed basalt Jul 6, 2020, 2:04 AM

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@rare condor have you ever used bare bootlace terminals for connector housings etc

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exhibit A

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green inlet Jul 6, 2020, 2:06 AM

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Ass always seems to get in the way doesn’t it @tidal bronze , man I am a sucker for a pretty HAss

hushed basalt Jul 6, 2020, 2:09 AM

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It's probably a good idea for you hifi guys to use bootlace ferrules for your speaker connections as well

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Like how do you terminate your banana plugs atm?

dull chasm Jul 6, 2020, 2:11 AM

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yea

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plugs i have now are set screw reverted oppisitte to each other

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Me too set screw plugs and SpeakON

dull chasm Jul 6, 2020, 2:15 AM

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i think they kinda follow the same principle as a ferrule and hold tight

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 2:16 AM

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I honestly don't get into the nitty gritty too much now. Used to, not anymore.

hushed basalt Jul 6, 2020, 2:16 AM

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I'm just a big believer in never using screw terminals on bare copper

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The screw makes the strands splay out and just gets yeesh

dull chasm Jul 6, 2020, 2:16 AM

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these are a barrel that has set screws ....not like a terminal screw

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Cables and termination = rabbit hole when it comes to hifi.

dull chasm Jul 6, 2020, 2:18 AM

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no shit huh ...you dont have the 10k cables that are suspended from floor

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Ironic how people who bitch about it are all in that age group that naturally lost most of the hearing spectrum. Blows my mind.

dull chasm Jul 6, 2020, 2:21 AM

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yep ....i bought the hype of bi amping ....i had the extra amps so it didnt hurt .....it did make some diff ....oddly on accoutic tracks with drums vocals and guitars playing at same time ....but then again i was excited to do it ....maybe fools gold but did seem to make a diff

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 2:21 AM

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lol

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tinnitus goes EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 2:21 AM

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LMAO

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 2:22 AM

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oh, since you're copying me, you should throw down some Urea tomorrow

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or not 🙂

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Waiting for PGF to kick in. BTW best $19 spent

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last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 2:23 AM

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I use a half moon

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same effect

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Was a breeze to burry the 14/4 sub cables

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 2:24 AM

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ah, for burial

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Yep.

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 2:24 AM

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stomp, wiggle, run lines, stomp again?

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Yep. 300 plus ft was a snap.

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Rubber mallet came in handy at times. 😀

hushed basalt Jul 6, 2020, 2:25 AM

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As someone who worked in professional film and tv

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Cable quality is important

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 2:26 AM

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I think that's what the ATT guy used when he buried the fiber

hushed basalt Jul 6, 2020, 2:26 AM

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But there's a point of diminishing or zero returns

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 2:26 AM

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I agree 💯 but $1800 20ft sub cables makes no sense at all. 🤣

hushed basalt Jul 6, 2020, 2:26 AM

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Meeting the requirements of the transmission spec, and a bit of headroom,

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Even analog will have diminishing effects. And 20khz signals is easy peasy

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Running 3-6Ghz over 1-100m coaxial cables, that's where cable construction and termination tolerances really come into play

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But even those are digital so there's no difference once it reaches the specs.

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 2:29 AM

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hier kommt die sonne

green inlet Jul 6, 2020, 2:29 AM

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Porque no dos?

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 2:30 AM

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I forgot how much I liked Rammstein

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Been a minute

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 2:30 AM

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I used to blast the hell out of their music

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back in the Napster/Limewire days

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with CDs I burned using my friend's Hp parport CDR drive

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 2:32 AM

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Caddy ?

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 2:32 AM

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oh @tidal bronze was finally able to order that motor sprocket today

hushed basalt Jul 6, 2020, 2:32 AM

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Rammstein.exe

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 2:32 AM

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but who knows when I'll actually get it

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after that it'll just be fabbing mount plates

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 2:33 AM

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Can't wait to see the final build.

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 2:33 AM

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engine started acting up today

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so maybe good timing

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probably will pull the plug and see how crappy it is

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ordered some wire to make a decent power input

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we'll see how that goes

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Silicone ?

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 2:35 AM

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15A powerpoles

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Nice.

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 2:36 AM

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no, says "ultra flexible PVC"

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Hmmm

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 2:36 AM

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but whatever, it'll only be like a foot of cable

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Nothing to worry then.

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 2:37 AM

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just long enough to come out of the repurposed charger to plug the ESC in

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 2:37 AM

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ESC is it programmable?

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 2:37 AM

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probably not

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it's a scooter controller

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 2:38 AM

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Check whether you can adjust the timing can do some crazy stuff LOL

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 2:38 AM

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it's probably completely potted inside of this heatsink

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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001053542520.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.450a4c4dPSQ2Yc

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the 48V version of that

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 2:40 AM

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Yep probably potted and timing set.

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 2:40 AM

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here's how you know you're getting some quality manufactured stuff

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tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 2:40 AM

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LMAO

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 2:40 AM

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critical measurenebt!

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 2:42 AM

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I had a time when I was custom building the ebike. Threw all Chinese ESCs and went with a Canadian one. 50% less than whatever the spec said.

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 2:42 AM

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eh, we'll see

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it doesn't really have to do much

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 2:43 AM

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I agree. I my case I wanted to do over 50mph😜

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Did 52 finally but that interest was short lived.

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 2:44 AM

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how much current?

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 2:45 AM

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70 to 80A 100V

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 2:45 AM

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that's some power

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 2:47 AM

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Breaks and tires in mountain bikes are obviously not rated for that speed. 😆 so now I set Max to 38mph. Don't wanna end up plastered

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 2:47 AM

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anything over 35 is scary not on a road bike

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anything over 40 is scary even on a road bike

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 2:48 AM

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💯

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 2:50 AM

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I've been learning about honeybees, think I may start keeping bees

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they're pretty fascinating

clear ferry Jul 6, 2020, 5:56 AM

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clear ferry Jul 6, 2020, 6:18 AM

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Ooooof long drive is long

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clever mortar Jul 6, 2020, 6:20 AM

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But hopefully long drive has pretty scenery

bitter pawn Jul 6, 2020, 6:20 AM

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Put on an audiobook

light trout Jul 6, 2020, 6:21 AM

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It has, at least the last half of it

clever mortar Jul 6, 2020, 6:21 AM

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See, I never got the attraction of audiobooks and driving. Either I'm in the story, or I'm driving. If you try to do both you're not really doing either...

light trout Jul 6, 2020, 6:22 AM

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Same here...

static schooner Jul 6, 2020, 6:22 AM

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You listen to audio books about yourself?

clear ferry Jul 6, 2020, 6:24 AM

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I did audiobook when I was catching up on The Dark Tower, I had read the first two books before, but it was 5 years ago and I wanted to finish it

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So I did the two first on audiobook, the read the other 5+1

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At the time I was driving 1500-2000km per week though

rare condor Jul 6, 2020, 6:27 AM

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@hushed basalt nope never used them always had boots, usually requirement of wiring spec.

clear ferry Jul 6, 2020, 6:53 AM

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https://i.redd.it/ww7u595ib5951.png

rare condor Jul 6, 2020, 7:13 AM

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The two companies I work for, 1 is all males (literally no females in any department including HR, Dev, Admin etc.) and the other is almost exclusively female, i.e. only 3 males to 32 females.

clear ferry Jul 6, 2020, 7:16 AM

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Working for two companies CatRee

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Ain't got time for that jibba jabba

fading zodiac Jul 6, 2020, 10:09 AM

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Hmm

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From the microsoft course:

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YAML – or YAML Ain’t Markup Language, is a relatively new data language that’s growing quickly in popularity in part due to its human-friendliness. The data structure is defined by line separation and indentation, and reduces the dependency on structural characters like parentheses, commas and brackets.

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Human-friendliness

light trout Jul 6, 2020, 10:11 AM

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most humans prefer it to JSON and XML (which is usually the alternatives)

fading zodiac Jul 6, 2020, 10:23 AM

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Yep

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That's what the course showed.

clear ferry Jul 6, 2020, 10:40 AM

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I prefer machine code

low harness Jul 6, 2020, 11:26 AM

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I normally allow myself the comfort of hex encoding it at least.

hushed basalt Jul 6, 2020, 11:43 AM

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Norway looks like the cold bits that Sweden and Finland don't want @clear ferry

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@rare condor what about in a cable plug etc

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Like these cables seem to have naked ferrules crimped on them when they come from eu countries

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I don't think boots would fit at all

late gate Jul 6, 2020, 11:54 AM

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put up alexa and google home side by side to see what to use in my new home (yes I have both). As of now it seems GH is faster on HA commands

rare condor Jul 6, 2020, 11:55 AM

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@hushed basalt Out of interest what are you researching this for, very curious?

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We often use these Installation Couplers when joining not fixed hardware to fixed wiring.

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I use plently of cable plugs for 24v kit as well

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on mining sites Anderson plugs for machinery and quick release connections for portable PLC cabinets

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Australia Post is selling RTSP Doorbells for $19.98 USD https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/550064

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hushed basalt Jul 6, 2020, 12:10 PM

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I was just curious as I saw the ferrules in broadcast 240v cables

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And wondering if people used them more often in cable assemblies

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Rather than mashing down on stranded wire with grub screws

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In broadcast 4-pin xlr is used pretty heavily for 12v

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and 3-pin xlr for 24v

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That's a very cheap doorbell.. hmm...

rare condor Jul 6, 2020, 12:27 PM

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I only see a small snippet of Electrical wiring, its also important to note a lot of sites/ organisations have their own standards i.e. http://www.sgwater.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/STE-013-SGW-Electrical-Standards.pdf So often what we are doing isn't common practice, for resi installation or equiv. to say a PLC used for conveyors in a tiny farm.

late gate Jul 6, 2020, 12:28 PM

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I just went through doorbell research and came up with the current best option is the Ezviz DB1 (multiple brands, its a hkvision) and flash it with hkvision firmware). Then you have onvif, chime integration and off cloud

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I also bought sage zigbee ringdoor sensors (cost like 5 bucks) so I get real time notification in HA when the doorbell clicks

hushed basalt Jul 6, 2020, 12:36 PM

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I'll probably go with a poe doorbell myself

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wired doorbells aren't common in Australia so I'd have to run a cable regardless

late gate Jul 6, 2020, 12:39 PM

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then I guess if you want the best you need to go doorbird

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I have one dusting down in the electronic graveyard

hushed basalt Jul 6, 2020, 12:44 PM

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Maybe, there's a few SIP doorbell options

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I don't have to have the camera coupled directly to the doorbell either

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I can just use a normal surveillance camera and a zigbee button or wire a button the the alarm input of the camera

late gate Jul 6, 2020, 12:49 PM

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doorbird got camera, local api, sip, poe etc so a lot

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and good quality

hushed basalt Jul 6, 2020, 12:57 PM

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True, but it's about $600 for the base model

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Quite a step up from a $100 poe camera and a $15 zigbee doorbell 😄

fallen furnace Jul 6, 2020, 1:06 PM

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$600 for a doorbell? That's a lot...

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Does anyone know of any wifi-based thermostat that doesn't require a cloud to function?

hushed basalt Jul 6, 2020, 1:09 PM

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Just go zigbee

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zigbee2mqtt, no cloud, no firmware updates that brick your devices,

fallen furnace Jul 6, 2020, 1:15 PM

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Uh i'm not sure if I'm searching correctly, but I can't seem to find any thermostats with the name "zigbee"

hushed basalt Jul 6, 2020, 1:18 PM

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It's not wifi, it uses zigbee radio protocol

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Pretty much all wifi devices are moving towards cloud only,

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Don't want to lose out on that sweet data

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But if you're willing to use a USB dongle you open yourself up to the world of zigbee

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https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/supported_devices.html

zigbee2mqtt.io

📘 Zigbee2mqtt documentation

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Ctrl + F thermostat

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 1:21 PM

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DONGle

fallen furnace Jul 6, 2020, 1:25 PM

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Ahhh makes sense. Thanks @hushed basalt. Yeah I wouldn't be surprised companies are pushing towards cloud

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Recommendations on which zigbee USB dongle I should get?

scenic radish Jul 6, 2020, 1:45 PM

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see #zigbee-archived. make sure to mention where you're located

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 2:13 PM

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what's the frequency, Kenneth?

scenic radish Jul 6, 2020, 2:13 PM

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where are my testicles, Summer?

unreal orbit Jul 6, 2020, 2:14 PM

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What's our vector, Victor?

glad tinsel Jul 6, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Roger, roger.

midnight adder Jul 6, 2020, 4:09 PM

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I give in an apartment that has an unusual design where it's impossible to hear anyone knocking on the door. This is exacerbated as it has 4 rooms built into the "saw-tooth" of the roof on one of the levels (it's an old warehouse conversion). Even when I've tried wireless doorbells, you struggle between maintaining the signal between the outside button and the receiving station with the bell and being able to hear the bell.
Everytime I get close to choosing a solution that provides a smarter solution/video/ability to be aware of someone at the door from anywhere in the apartment, they need the cloud/subscription/go btoke. I'm looking for better integration into Home Assistant, good camera, able to be powered via POE etc, no subscriptions, quality device etc. Just came across this video https://youtu.be/GbkCuT4qHbA
It shows a device with promise - I'd only be interested in the outdoor segment as my network can deliver POE. Video could be to other screens or phones (could record video as a by-product). The integration into HA and MQTT also gives an opportunity to make announcements over Echo/Alexa devices or via light flashing routines etc. I'll be interested to see further developments before making the plunge
BTW no connection with product/content provider - just thought it was interesting/promising
I'd also be interested if any one else had other options worth investigating.

YouTube

Intermit.Tech

The one 🔔doorbell🔔 to do it all!

If you are like me you've been looking for a video Doorbell that has a decent video quality, decently built, has a hardwired Ethernet connection, can be powered by POE and with that hooks into your NVR of choice and is also native Home Assistant compatible! Well, finally, sear...

▶ Play video

clever mortar Jul 6, 2020, 4:11 PM

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#hardware-archived would be the place to start, or #cameras-archived for cameras, or #diy-archived for build it yourself

lethal ice Jul 6, 2020, 4:18 PM

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@midnight adder might want to take a look at the unifi doorbell

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although it is unfortunately not PoE, I believe it's still ~24VAC

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 4:30 PM

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man, YouTube's recommendation engine is showing me some odd crap recently

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like this tiny lady that goes around doing eating challenges

lethal ice Jul 6, 2020, 4:31 PM

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the black widow?

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it's probably a result of timing, since the july 4th nathan's hot dog eating contest thing just happened

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and apparently people like watching that stuff

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Vanced is all messed up as well.

unreal orbit Jul 6, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Thank dog the discord banner is gone 🙌

clever mortar Jul 6, 2020, 4:34 PM

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The server is no longer boosted then... oh well 😛

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 4:34 PM

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@lethal ice her name is Katina, she has a channel Katina eats Kilos

unreal orbit Jul 6, 2020, 4:34 PM

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What benefits of that were even being used?

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 4:34 PM

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she's like 5'2 and 125 pounds

lethal ice Jul 6, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Oh weird. I only knew about Sonya Thomas.

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then again I am not very up on the world of Competitive Eating

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 4:35 PM

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she's not a competitive eater, she just goes around to restaurants that have famous challenges

lethal ice Jul 6, 2020, 4:35 PM

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ahhh like those places with signs that say if you eat this 20 lb burger in an hour without throwing up it's free

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 4:35 PM

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like "eat this 6 pound breakfast burrito in an hour"

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yeah

lethal ice Jul 6, 2020, 4:36 PM

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I watched half of a show on food network once about that stuff and it turned my stomach so I had to stop

last plaza Jul 6, 2020, 4:41 PM

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https://youtu.be/FFSVqNyB0xk

YouTube

Tosh.0

Kate’s Food Challenge - CeWEBrity Profile - Tosh.0

Daniel sits down with the appropriately named competitive eater Kate Ovens.

About Tosh.0:
Hosted by comedian Daniel Tosh, Tosh.0 digs into all aspects of the internet, from the ingenious to the absurd to the downright stupid. Through segments like Web Redemption, CeWEBrity ...

▶ Play video

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 4:52 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_4PK9JIYro

YouTube

Katina Eats Kilos

WORLD FAMOUS 72OZ BIG TEXAN STEAK CHALLENGE

Taking on the LEGENDARY 72oz Steak Challenge at the Big Texan Steak Ranch in Amarillo, Texas! Contestants have 1 hour to complete a 72oz steak, baked potato, side salad, roll, and shrimp cocktail to win the $72 meal for free, a sweet t-shirt, a souvenir mug, and a coveted spot...

▶ Play video

unreal orbit Jul 6, 2020, 5:36 PM

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that is pretty gross 🙂

sage timber Jul 6, 2020, 5:43 PM

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What can I use in place of 'hide_entity' since apparently I need to get it out of my config?

unreal orbit Jul 6, 2020, 5:44 PM

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#frontend-archived @sage timber

late gate Jul 6, 2020, 5:56 PM

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just as fun everytime auction on ebay goes higher than retail prince in the store. who is sitting there bidding 20-30% over retail?

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 6:11 PM

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My parents have the covid over some idiot who didnt wear a mask and kept getting to close despite being told to back off

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Kiss their ass goodbye 60+, Heart + Lung Issues... yeah that wont go down well

bitter pawn Jul 6, 2020, 6:14 PM

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RIP. that sucks my dude.

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@late gate people that arent paying attention to MRSP and retail prices.

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ive done it a few times.

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like twice. xD

late gate Jul 6, 2020, 6:31 PM

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that sucks. I made some really good deals on auctions sometimes, but I guess a lot of the auctions professionals are bidding on

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I guess its a full time job for someone

bitter pawn Jul 6, 2020, 6:34 PM

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sometimes it doesnt matter. availability can be a big deal

late gate Jul 6, 2020, 6:36 PM

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true. trying to get some nest max, but too much bidding on them

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they are not available here

bitter pawn Jul 6, 2020, 6:45 PM

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ah

late gate Jul 6, 2020, 6:47 PM

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decided to go from alexa to google

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did some testing and found google is faster on local home automation

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:15 PM

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hello :)

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:20 PM

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que paso?

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:20 PM

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There is one think that i couldn't stop wondering about this weekend ... does Tinkerer have a job or is beeing here and in the forum his job ? Because he/she is alwase there, awensering and helping ... and doing that aside of your main activity look impossibly taxing 😳.

No mater what, Thank you 😍 (also a lot of thanks to everyone else who help around here 😘 )

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:20 PM

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wie geht's?

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Tinkerer runs completely on snark and doesn't require food to maintain energy

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:21 PM

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I have emoji cancer now

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Thank you for that.

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:21 PM

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blaim my work, i never used them before they forced us on slack

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Wait

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Your work

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FORCES you..... to use emojis?

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Or is everyone just spamming the shit out of them on slack like no one elses business?

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:22 PM

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they say it help break sending wrong sensation while writing ... like sounding mad or silly when you where beeing nice ...

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Holy shit is your management terrible

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:23 PM

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text make it hard to convey emotion, so you HAVE to add emoji

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Its called phrasing and instead of using pictographs as a language they should be helping everyone rewrite and adjust their language core to properly send the correct mannerisms

fathom sparrow Jul 6, 2020, 7:24 PM

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as long as you don't use the winky emoji, all is well.

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Tinkerer runs completely on snark and doesn't require food to maintain energy
@last dirge
But still need sleep and rest right ?

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:24 PM

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nah

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all snark

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Is it me or is " 😉 " the most snarky and passive aggressive looking emoji

fathom sparrow Jul 6, 2020, 7:24 PM

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note to self, add @unreal orbit to shit list

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:24 PM

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its like a karen emoji

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:25 PM

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as long as you don't use the winky emoji, all is well.
@fathom sparrow not knowing who to write probably dosen't help 😞

unreal orbit Jul 6, 2020, 7:25 PM

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@fathom sparrow was I not already there? 😲

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:25 PM

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HIiiiiiiiiiiiiii, You see I asked for extra sugar but there isnt much sugar. If you could be so kind as to add sugar that would be great. I dont think this is too hard to understand right? Thanks 😉

fathom sparrow Jul 6, 2020, 7:25 PM

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may have been, i'll have to check the list again

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Shitlist:
Everyone who isnt me

fathom sparrow Jul 6, 2020, 7:26 PM

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the winky emoji when telling someone they are wrong is grounds for a beating

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Id rather rip teeth out instead

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:26 PM

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corporate wide email: after this weekend only the new VPN client will work

fathom sparrow Jul 6, 2020, 7:26 PM

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yah, that too

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:26 PM

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me: I don't have a new VPN client

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:26 PM

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gosh what did i start 😨

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Welcome to Home Assistant Lounge

unreal orbit Jul 6, 2020, 7:26 PM

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I find it to be the perfect amount of condescension without being an absolute ass 😉

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:27 PM

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infrastructure guy: you should open a helpdesk ticket

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:27 PM

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Ugh

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bothering with a ticket on something so simple

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Should already be documented and easy to send in an email for something so stupid simple on how to get it...

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Or maybe.... attached to original email?

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"This is why you will always be lowest tier helpdesk support and not sr ops."

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:28 PM

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me: there's probably dozens of people without any knowledge that there's the new VPN, much less having it installed

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ig: helpdesk ticket

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:29 PM

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it's easyer to have an army of <some people from a low minimum wage country > to reply to thousand ticket a day 😄

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:29 PM

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That fucking hurt

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Because its true

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:29 PM

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nevermind the fact that they should've coordinated this shit with the team that's supposed to push the software to the clients

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Shouldve been auto deployed from the directory controller or some sort and setup with either a GPO or predefined configs already

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:30 PM

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... coordinated ... with <another> team ...
@last dirge there is something wrong here ... but i can't see what 😉

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oh i know what this miss. there

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:31 PM

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", if not already completed (not by my team)"

clever mortar Jul 6, 2020, 7:32 PM

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I'm just a bot swarm... it's fine

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:32 PM

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well ... can't i clone you and have you as the core of voice-assistants HA ?

clever mortar Jul 6, 2020, 7:32 PM

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You could, but I have an accent you could cut with a chainsaw 😉

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:32 PM

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i mean you are very responsif for a bot

fathom sparrow Jul 6, 2020, 7:33 PM

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no one wants a home assistant that yells at you

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:33 PM

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that's ok, i'll put a TTS in front of you :P

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:33 PM

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you've heard of AI?

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he's AA

clever mortar Jul 6, 2020, 7:33 PM

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What the *"% kind of stupid question was that. You can look out the window and see the weather yourself you lazy ass!

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Artificial A-hole

clever mortar Jul 6, 2020, 7:33 PM

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AAA: Annoyed Artificial A-hole 😉

unreal orbit Jul 6, 2020, 7:34 PM

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https://youtu.be/AXGP4Sez_Us?t=22tinkerer irl

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:34 PM

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if i was alone at home, i would love an AI like that

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:34 PM

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he has become self aware!

clever mortar Jul 6, 2020, 7:34 PM

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I have more in common with the bomb from Dark Star than Marvin...

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:34 PM

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it's a knockoff of the one from Iron Man

bitter pawn Jul 6, 2020, 7:34 PM

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emails have been in the workplace for decades. not surprised that people still dont know how to use them correctly.

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:34 PM

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J.A.C.K.A.S.S

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Quick! Ill restore a previous snapshot of the cluster to rollback the self-aware bug

clever mortar Jul 6, 2020, 7:35 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/im-sorry-dave-im-afraid-icant-do-that-gif-12928790

Tenor

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:35 PM

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I'm sorry Dave

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I'm afraid I can't do that

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also, Tesla got a C&D for using that image for Sentry Mode

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:35 PM

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I'm sorry Dave

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:35 PM

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did they really?

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:35 PM

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yeah

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now it's one of the turrets from Portal

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Wow... thats kinda no-fun assholeish

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:36 PM

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are you still there?

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Im ok with this

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:36 PM

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it kinda looks like an anus though

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:36 PM

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also Tinkerer still didn't threat to kill any/everyone ... he might be cool with beeing a bot ?

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:36 PM

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that you know of

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:37 PM

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it's keeping a browneye on things

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📎 sentryoffon2-300x173.png

clever mortar Jul 6, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Nobody has ever found the bodies...

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:37 PM

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echo $BODY_COUNT
22

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fuck..

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:37 PM

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used to look like Hal

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:37 PM

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that's usefull .. let's do that thing again
__ hey Thinker, where do i hide a body __

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:37 PM

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and display this on the screen

📎 Tesla-SEntry-mode-hero.png

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now it's this

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📎 New-Sentry-Mode-icon-1024x450.png

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:38 PM

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that's some big and fat turret

clever mortar Jul 6, 2020, 7:38 PM

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The correct place to hide a body is in the University's morgue...

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:38 PM

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that's a way to good reply

clever mortar Jul 6, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Or just the student dorms...

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:40 PM

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@last dirge is that your's ? do you own a tesla ?

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:40 PM

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that is not mine

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but I own one

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that is mine

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:40 PM

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can i ask you a money question ? you can obvioulsy say no

clever mortar Jul 6, 2020, 7:41 PM

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They so deserve a KITT display and voice

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:41 PM

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📎 camera.png

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@fiery sorrel the answer is "not cheap"

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:41 PM

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no not that kind of question

clever mortar Jul 6, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Though the 3 series is relatively affordable... there's a few folks around here who own them now

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:41 PM

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@clever mortar look at those sweet ass lawn stripes?

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:42 PM

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about how much a year would you 'need' to win in order to find a purchase like that resonable ?

scenic radish Jul 6, 2020, 7:42 PM

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i have a 2012 scion tc. it's worth at least 5,000 USD right now

clever mortar Jul 6, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Earn, you mean 😉

scenic radish Jul 6, 2020, 7:42 PM

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AT LEAST

clever mortar Jul 6, 2020, 7:42 PM

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I have a 2010 Audi... it's not worth that much 😄

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:42 PM

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@scenic radish big ballin in discontinued brands

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Earn, you mean 😉
@clever mortar yea sorry earn

scenic radish Jul 6, 2020, 7:42 PM

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big d||iscount|| energy

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:42 PM

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@fiery sorrel I don't know. I do extremely well

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I'd not buy a model S though

clever mortar Jul 6, 2020, 7:42 PM

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I could afford a Tesla, but my current car runs fine

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I'll keep it until it falls apart, and then worry about it

scenic radish Jul 6, 2020, 7:43 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/well-good-for-you-supernatural-jensen-ackles-dean-winchester-gif-5938400

Tenor

bitter pawn Jul 6, 2020, 7:43 PM

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luxury cars lose their value exponentially during ownership

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:43 PM

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I traded up from a 2009 Honda Fit base 5-spd

last plaza Jul 6, 2020, 7:43 PM

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@clever mortar look at those sweet ass lawn stripes?
@last dirge every time you say checkout the grass and stripes, I don’t see much grass 😝. Sorry tink for tagging!

clever mortar Jul 6, 2020, 7:43 PM

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🤣

bitter pawn Jul 6, 2020, 7:43 PM

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hence why you can find some dirt cheap lexus

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:43 PM

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where i leave, sysadmin are not payed well, so the model3 is still way to expensive for me ... but i was wondering if i'll ever get there

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:43 PM

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depends on where you live

clever mortar Jul 6, 2020, 7:44 PM

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And on your career path...

unreal orbit Jul 6, 2020, 7:44 PM

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and my axe

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:44 PM

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export taxes on stuff are high in some places

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:44 PM

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we cut head and kick king in the ars :)

last plaza Jul 6, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Where do you live?

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:45 PM

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the funniest thing ever is electric car crashes

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:45 PM

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And on your career path...
well i have no idea what's next after beeing a sysadmin for very big company ... opsec maybe

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:45 PM

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SUDDEN LOUD NOISES

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:45 PM

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They leave the car on the side of the road for 2 days since electric car batteries like to ignite and are too dangerous to dismatnle

clever mortar Jul 6, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Consultancy pays well, even if some days it feels like you sell your soul 😛

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:46 PM

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this

last plaza Jul 6, 2020, 7:46 PM

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🤣

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:46 PM

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do i have one ?

clever mortar Jul 6, 2020, 7:46 PM

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On the other hand, after too many years as a sysadmin, I had no soul left anyway

last plaza Jul 6, 2020, 7:46 PM

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GWsabianGKUser

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:46 PM

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i'm still a kidy ... but when i see that end of carere are around 60 to 70K ...

clever mortar Jul 6, 2020, 7:47 PM

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So, find a path that works for you

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Security is certainly the "new hotness", but there's a lot more out there than "just" security

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:47 PM

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yea, and i'm already to parano about that, making it a job would be a nightmare

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Security is also much more specific than "InfoSec"

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There is so many areas of it

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Some dont realize, this includes physical security too

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:48 PM

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i love physical security

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those are my hero

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the art of belonging is something i really love :)

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:49 PM

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You can encrypt/secure/firewall the shit out of anything

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But if I can just walk in, unrack your server, and walk right on out

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its useless

late gate Jul 6, 2020, 7:49 PM

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I put an air compressor out for free on a local sale site, and within 10 seconds I got at least 50 messages. it made the sale app crash lol

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:49 PM

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50 ? that's some bad app XD

late gate Jul 6, 2020, 7:50 PM

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yeah but in 10 seconds

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it just went crazy

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:50 PM

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what is async

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:50 PM

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something php don't like

clever mortar Jul 6, 2020, 7:51 PM

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Best thing to do for a career path is go talk to folks doing what you think you want to do, find out what the day job is really like, and what it requires

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They'll likely know more about the wider options too, and can suggest things

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:51 PM

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CloudOps is fun

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:51 PM

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yea ... but that require to meet people ... and real people are spooky

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:51 PM

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tinker with shit all day

late gate Jul 6, 2020, 7:51 PM

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I want to get full salary for watching tv and do fun stuff at home

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:51 PM

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real people are spooky

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this

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:52 PM

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@clever mortar SQL DBAs make a lot of money, I wanna do that

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LOL

clever mortar Jul 6, 2020, 7:52 PM

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I did that for a while

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Hell no

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I'd rather be a Windows admin again

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:52 PM

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CloudOps is fun
Nooooo! run away screaming

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Its my fav out of all the shit ive played with so far

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:54 PM

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i really don't like cloud based stuff ... well no i like the cloud if it's a private company cloud and not aws or google ...
Else it's usealy throwing more money at bad code to make it run 😞

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:54 PM

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I used to work at AWS as Sr CloudOps, its the future... just the management is retarded

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That being said, you can def "DIY AWS"

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And even that has value added options

clever mortar Jul 6, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Best skills you can learn:

People
Communications
People

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:55 PM

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i know i try to push that at work, but because we are based on vmware, we don't have capability to do autoscaling :(

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:55 PM

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VMWare has scaling options now

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ESXi with K8s plugin for example

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:56 PM

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since when ? Oo last year they was nothing

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i'll take a look

last plaza Jul 6, 2020, 7:56 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 7:56 PM

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"why can't they just get the faxes from the fax machine themselves?"

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:57 PM

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@fiery sorrel Look at OpenNebula with vCenter using vOneCloud

last plaza Jul 6, 2020, 7:57 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:57 PM

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Some dank shit

📎 Sunstone_landing.png

last plaza Jul 6, 2020, 7:57 PM

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Dark theme please.

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:57 PM

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wow

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:58 PM

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@last plaza Hard to do that with PDF 😦

last plaza Jul 6, 2020, 7:58 PM

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lol

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 7:58 PM

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This was meant to be printable so that also wouldve been pretty gnarly on the toner

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 7:59 PM

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printing dark theme 👌

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Front Desk: "What the fuck is happening to our toner!?"

unreal orbit Jul 6, 2020, 8:01 PM

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A button to sign in on a pdf? 🤔

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:01 PM

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a responsif pdf

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then you can click on the printed page

turbid stirrup Jul 6, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Yep, I didn't have too much of a soul left after 7 years of helpdesk either... so consultancy, it is.

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:02 PM

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yea .. i mean helpdesk is surely worst than sys ...

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:03 PM

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I got lucky with my first helpdesk job

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Our CTO hated dumb questions

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:03 PM

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white toner
@obsidian geyser I need this

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:03 PM

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So he wanted me to give dumb replies on purpose

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It was the best shit ever

last plaza Jul 6, 2020, 8:03 PM

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🤣

turbid stirrup Jul 6, 2020, 8:03 PM

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Got lucky with my 2nd helpdesk job. Applied for 2nd line helpdesk, got reorganised to 1st line and after a while, reapplied to 2nd line again and got a raise out of it.

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:03 PM

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"Ever used google? Should give it a try some day" was one of my favorites

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One time I had a ticket snatched from me mid reply from him that was on an awfully stupid question

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The response was "Get the fuck out of my office"

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I about died laughing

turbid stirrup Jul 6, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Wow

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:04 PM

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He was a bit of a douche though

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:05 PM

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he was surely not loved by other than his team

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:05 PM

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if you work at a software dev company

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You should have some computer skills

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:05 PM

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you think ?

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i'm not conviced

turbid stirrup Jul 6, 2020, 8:05 PM

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My favourite one was telling a multinational they had to revert a rollout across all their users because someone did not (think to) test compatibilities.

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:05 PM

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@fiery sorrel I was the ONLY IT in the entire company of indian software devs

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Funny that the IT was white and the rest was indian

turbid stirrup Jul 6, 2020, 8:05 PM

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I work at a software dev company, and am flabbergasted by the lack of skills many people have.

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Oh yeah and the entire software ran on AWS and Azure so that was all my job

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 8:06 PM

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"we'll offshore this and save so much money"

turbid stirrup Jul 6, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Ouch

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 8:06 PM

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no successful offshoring attempt ever

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Luckily all the Indian workers were in the US and actually came to the office

turbid stirrup Jul 6, 2020, 8:06 PM

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"We'll put everything to the cloud, that'll make things so much easier"
Sarcastic line I'll some day put on my resignation letter

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:06 PM

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we have a lot of dev offshore ... we have a lot of dev who do it all back from scrath in our office

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 8:06 PM

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"there's a bug in the code that those contractors wrote"

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:06 PM

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@turbid stirrup This may be true one day down the line

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but not today

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 8:06 PM

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"cool, it'll take 10x as long to figure out how to fix it than to fix it because of all of the crap coding they did"

turbid stirrup Jul 6, 2020, 8:07 PM

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I know I'm sick and tired of AWS already, although part of it may be our internal AWS team.

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:07 PM

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AWS is tired of other companies not knowing how to use their shit too

turbid stirrup Jul 6, 2020, 8:08 PM

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I can imagine

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:08 PM

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oh i need to get that quizz a colegue sended me about aws

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 8:08 PM

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this place hired some 3rd party to do their administration

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:08 PM

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YOU CANNOT
AND I SAY
CANNOT
JUST COPY YOUR FUCKING INFRA OVER TO AWS
AND EXPECT IT TO BE CHEAPER, FASTER, AND BETTER

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 8:08 PM

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so of course the 3rd party decided to use AWS "best practices" that just so happened to increase the monthly cost

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of which they took a percentage as their "fee"

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:09 PM

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https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdnEEo0o2JgnIt8VOGffhkcYj-C2h9m5_NFzM0Q1AU-P8d0zA/viewform

Google Docs

AWS icon quiz

You use AWS, but how well do you actually know AWS? How many AWS icons can you correctly identify?

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:09 PM

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there it issssss

turbid stirrup Jul 6, 2020, 8:09 PM

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Oh, and you cannot just copy a linux based on premises solution over to AWS and expect it to work.

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:09 PM

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this make my head hurt

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:09 PM

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Even the devs at AWS would fail that

turbid stirrup Jul 6, 2020, 8:09 PM

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lol

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 8:09 PM

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so instead of setting up a VPN tunnel, they required a bastian host

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which ran on a windows VM

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that you had to RDP into

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:10 PM

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pukes

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 8:10 PM

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then you could ssh from that machine to the box you wanted to go to

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:10 PM

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projectile vomits everywhere

turbid stirrup Jul 6, 2020, 8:10 PM

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ouch

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:10 PM

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we had that issue with GCP, they where limited the bandwith of our openvpn to force use to use there instance

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:10 PM

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@last dirge I wonder if they ever heard of Gravitational Teleport or Pritnul?

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:10 PM

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ipsec worked well enought

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 8:10 PM

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so I entered a helpdesk ticket with the 3rd party that essentially asked them to unknowingly grant me full IAM access

turbid stirrup Jul 6, 2020, 8:10 PM

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At that point, it's time to purposely mess some step up and tell whoever is making you work with that "It doesn't work."

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 8:11 PM

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so they did

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and I never talked to them again

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Full IAM Access
kthxbai.jpg

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 8:11 PM

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HAPPILY EVER AFTER

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:11 PM

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removes their IAM access

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Ayyyyyyy problems solved

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 8:11 PM

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hey look, I cut the budget

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:11 PM

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PROMOTED!

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Go slap it on a Powerpoint labeled cost savings and run with it

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 8:12 PM

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CIO says "what the hell is costing so much at AWS"

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gestures generally

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look at all those chickens

turbid stirrup Jul 6, 2020, 8:12 PM

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I recall doing that with a temporary timesheet system... I went from 10 seconds to 2 hours per week. Never had to put in a timesheet into that system again.

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Did you work at an Oil company by any chance?

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 8:12 PM

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no

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:12 PM

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whew

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Honestly, if you need to ever recommend a proper 3rd party to help with AWS

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Onica.

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Down right some of the best people I have ever worked with

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 8:13 PM

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I can't even remember the name of this place

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:13 PM

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And they even tell you "AWS will be more expensive" at times

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And say "go elsewhere"

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Oo

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:13 PM

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What sort of 3rd party actually fucking does that?

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A good one.

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:13 PM

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well i never meet a good one

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yet

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 8:14 PM

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@last dirge you happy ? What a day.

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 8:15 PM

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$1200 turned into 7200? hell yeah

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Whew what a return

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noice

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:15 PM

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damn i need to stop putting stuff in prod for personal use in my lab, and start using it as a lab :(

tidal bronze Jul 6, 2020, 8:15 PM

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I though you held. Good call.

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:15 PM

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@fiery sorrel You need to segregate 2 env instances

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 8:15 PM

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@mild tapir cloudnexa was the company this place used

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:15 PM

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One for Dev/Test and one for Prod

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Its OK to run 2 of the same things.

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"Cloudnexa" where have I heard this before

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:16 PM

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i need to stop waisting resource by making full size vm for every service ... my hardware is not folowing

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:16 PM

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containers m8

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:16 PM

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yea ... i have a hard time with this to... but i need to force myself

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Oh yes, CloudNexa, where their own image is JPG'd to shit on their own website

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:17 PM

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i like my lowlevel tweek :(

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Bullshit they are Premier AWS Partner certified

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Im totally double checking that shit

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No! They are NOT! They are Basic!

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 8:18 PM

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haha

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:19 PM

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They even got a F rating on their Healthcare Competency

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Healthcare ? what does this have to do with that ?

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 8:19 PM

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the last time I looked at the AWS console everything they set up was setting off klaxons for being overprovisioned

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:19 PM

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AWS Partner Network has areas of Competency

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One is Healthcare

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 8:19 PM

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@obsidian geyser Rouing is an Amazonian

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Amazonian
shudders

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:20 PM

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One is Healthcare
@mild tapir salary healthcare ? or service healthcare ?

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Healthcare Services. HIPPA Compliance and the sorts

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:20 PM

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i had no idea amazon (aws) would care about it

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Oh yeah its huge in AWS.

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If we find a partner or even a customer not in compliance, we will roast the hell out of them

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In some cases, denying renewal of contracts

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:22 PM

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he he ... will they be in trouble for lying ?

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:22 PM

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If someone reads my email yes

turbid stirrup Jul 6, 2020, 8:23 PM

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shudders... security roasts suck.

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 8:23 PM

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F in the chat

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:23 PM

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did you already run esxi on top of esxi ?
i would like to try some of this stuff but not on my prod stuff :)
i'm afraid i will lake resource for multiple vcenter

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:24 PM

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ESXi on ESXi?

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Nah

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:24 PM

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virtualise a virtualisation stack ;)

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:24 PM

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No need to run another ESXi for Dev/Test

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:24 PM

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no i wanted to try autoscaling and stuff

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Ah

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:25 PM

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who will act on my vcenter and esxi directly

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:25 PM

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You mean what tools actually control the hypervisor?

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:25 PM

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yea, https://github.com/Fred78290/kubernetes-vmware-autoscaler look like it could be fun to try with k8 on top

GitHub

Fred78290/kubernetes-vmware-autoscaler

Kubernetes autoscaler for vsphere. Contribute to Fred78290/kubernetes-vmware-autoscaler development by creating an account on GitHub.

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:26 PM

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This is why I recommend OpenNebula. it runs by itself inside ESXi and attaches to vCenter. It also is all self-contained so removing it if you dont like it doesnt ruin your env

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:27 PM

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i saw but still having it run on my prod make me uneasy ... (especialy because i still haven't split what run the house from the rest)

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Sounds to me like you need to rearch your setup before playing with this stuff

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:27 PM

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if the switch nolonger work, i will get my bag on the front door :)

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Time to bite the bullet and do what you have been putting off

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:28 PM

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yea your right ... I'll get a new fancy nuc and put everything that i need to run the house on it

last dirge Jul 6, 2020, 8:28 PM

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I'm learning about beekeeping and "nuc" has a different connotation there

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:29 PM

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next month ... when i will have a bit more cash 💸

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Nucs, or nucleus colonies, are small honey bee colonies created from larger colonies.

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yeaaaa ...

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welp it's time for me ... Have a great day/night/whatever_the_hell_you_want !

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:31 PM

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$TIME_OF_DAY

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:31 PM

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22:31

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i would be ok with that if end was end of the univers

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that way you only have to say it once

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:33 PM

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echo "Have a great (date -R)"

fiery sorrel Jul 6, 2020, 8:34 PM

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me@Bounce:~$ echo "Have a great $(date -R)"
Have a great Mon, 06 Jul 2020 22:33:46 +0200
not very readable

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 8:35 PM

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but accurate

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Idgaf after I leave

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im gone

hearty depot Jul 6, 2020, 9:42 PM

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pewww, just tryed endless os - they lost me already on the licence agreement

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 10:28 PM

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how bad was it?

scenic radish Jul 6, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Welp I'm a dumbass

📎 IMG_20200706_174556.jpg

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Left it on the edge of the stove a li'l too close to the hot boi

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 10:55 PM

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fire be dangerous

last plaza Jul 6, 2020, 10:56 PM

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dumbass material all the way! 😛

#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMe3WDmxBEI

scenic radish Jul 6, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Love it

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It lit on fire which was kinda cool

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 11:10 PM

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idk, fire typically puts out heat

unreal orbit Jul 6, 2020, 11:13 PM

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@scenic radish you shouldn’t light things on fire like that 😕

scenic radish Jul 6, 2020, 11:13 PM

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I mean, it wasn't intentional lol

#

😕

unreal orbit Jul 6, 2020, 11:15 PM

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Hopcke said there are no accidents. Why are you trying to burn down your neighborhood?

scenic radish Jul 6, 2020, 11:16 PM

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🤫

last plaza Jul 6, 2020, 11:35 PM

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I hope it is a happy little accident!

rain swift Jul 6, 2020, 11:41 PM

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okay security nuts, if you use lastpass, whats the best way to do 2-factor? yeah I know, stuff in the cloud, blah blah blah lol.

#

I already use google authenticator for work

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so was thinking that

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 11:41 PM

#

YUBIKEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

wet pilot Jul 6, 2020, 11:41 PM

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I have authenticator and yubikey configured

rain swift Jul 6, 2020, 11:42 PM

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how's that work on the phone?

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NFC?

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 11:42 PM

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NFC or Plug it in

wet pilot Jul 6, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Authenticator on the phone, yubikey everywhere else

rain swift Jul 6, 2020, 11:42 PM

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can you plug it into the usb c port?

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Yes

rain swift Jul 6, 2020, 11:42 PM

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nice

wet pilot Jul 6, 2020, 11:42 PM

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There is a USB c yubikey

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Even got one with USB C and Lightning for the iPhone users

📎 51CK2s9kqTL.png

rain swift Jul 6, 2020, 11:43 PM

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if you're using authenticator on the phone why bother with yubikey?

wet pilot Jul 6, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Reasons

#

But they back each other up

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Yubikey also has more than just 2FA going for it

rain swift Jul 6, 2020, 11:43 PM

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I mean that vector is already open.

#

like what?

#

I had one years ago, didn't use it much.

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 11:43 PM

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PGP Keys can be stored on it. Smartcard Auth Certs.

#

You can use it for SSH Auth

rain swift Jul 6, 2020, 11:44 PM

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yeah I was using it that way

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 11:44 PM

#

Oh yeah and since you said security nuts you have to get the meme rant:

using a historically insecure cloud SaaS provider to store all your passwords
sekurity nuts
pik one

rain swift Jul 6, 2020, 11:45 PM

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hahaha

#

for now at least

#

lastpass with 2fa ain't too bad.

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Bitwarden Self hosted ftw yeeeeeeeeeeeee

scenic radish Jul 6, 2020, 11:48 PM

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@obsidian geyser yeah, it's silicone

#

Well, silicone and carbon now

#

Lemme put it back over the flame for a bit

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 11:50 PM

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silicone doesnt put out toxic fumes

#

nope

wet pilot Jul 6, 2020, 11:51 PM

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Just magic smoke

scenic radish Jul 6, 2020, 11:51 PM

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It smelled kind of sweet

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 11:51 PM

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prob all the stuff coated on it from use

scenic radish Jul 6, 2020, 11:51 PM

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And now I hear colors

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 11:52 PM

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Did you plug the RCA cables wrong into your speaker or something

rain swift Jul 6, 2020, 11:52 PM

#

and how does the android lastpass app work, will it just pop up when you try to log into a website?

mild tapir Jul 6, 2020, 11:52 PM

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Yeah pretty much

rain swift Jul 6, 2020, 11:52 PM

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nice

last plaza Jul 7, 2020, 12:21 AM

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How do you point your bitwarden iOS app to your local instance?

scenic radish Jul 7, 2020, 12:22 AM

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carefully

last plaza Jul 7, 2020, 12:23 AM

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Dang it! I have been extremely carefully - no wonder it doesn’t work! 😝

#

Let me try just carefully

scenic radish Jul 7, 2020, 12:24 AM

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|| ur a knob ||

last plaza Jul 7, 2020, 12:27 AM

#

scenic radish Jul 7, 2020, 12:28 AM

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😛

last plaza Jul 7, 2020, 12:33 AM

#

GWsabianGKUser

tidal bronze Jul 7, 2020, 12:34 AM

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@scenic radish butter was awesome, tried on Saturday 👍 Thanks for the recommendation

scenic radish Jul 7, 2020, 12:35 AM

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Right?! Glad you liked it

last plaza Jul 7, 2020, 12:35 AM

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@scenic radish here is another drone deal for you. https://slickdeals.net/share/iphone_app/fp/574649

#

Just a bit tad expensive from previous deal you got

scenic radish Jul 7, 2020, 12:36 AM

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Lmao

tidal bronze Jul 7, 2020, 12:38 AM

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If you come across anymore sweet stuff don't forget to post. 😆

scenic radish Jul 7, 2020, 12:38 AM

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Heh, will do

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 1:07 AM

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@last plaza look for a gear icon

tidal bronze Jul 7, 2020, 1:09 AM

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https://newsletter.fraunhofer.de/-viewonline2/17386/465/13/14SHcBTt/u8far30f3W/1

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h266 50% size reduction... Interesting times ahead.

last plaza Jul 7, 2020, 1:11 AM

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@mild tapir found it. I don’t have a local setup yet. I’m going to set it up using the Docker image.

#

Also, does it have to be connected to the server all the time or can it sync when connected to lo a network?

#

Assuming multiple phones can connect and sync as well.

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 1:20 AM

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It does not need 24/7 connection

#

It can have many devices on it

#

Use bitwarden_rs as your image

#

It's all in one, faster, free premium

rare condor Jul 7, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Damn its going to take 36 days to backup my server to Google Cloud, I really need to drive my server out to my university and plug them into a ethernet port for gigabit uploads 🤔

amber bramble Jul 7, 2020, 1:22 AM

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sometimes sneakernet is still faster 🤣

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 1:23 AM

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10Mbit a second or 60mph

#

Amazon Snowmobile says 60mph

rare condor Jul 7, 2020, 1:26 AM

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I'm on 38Mbps, but its knocking teams meetings off for other family members. They don't understand linux iso backup is more important than their dumb management meetings 😛

#

I should use QoS

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Ridge wallet can't hold more than 2.6K in cash. Sadface

rare condor Jul 7, 2020, 1:27 AM

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But meh one off event

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 1:28 AM

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Linux ISOs?

#

Shit I just keep them on my iODD. Constantly synced up and plugged in until needed.

rare condor Jul 7, 2020, 1:33 AM

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whoosh

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@hushed basalt What are you wiring?

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 1:33 AM

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Nothing atm

#

I used to make cables for my old job though

rare condor Jul 7, 2020, 1:34 AM

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ah fair

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 1:35 AM

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Next thing I'll be wiring will be some new fans in my UPS

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When I get my dupont crimper set next week

#

Ordered from ebay instead of Ali since I didn't want to wait 60 days haha

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 1:36 AM

#

Which set?

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 1:36 AM

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Just a random one off ebay

rare condor Jul 7, 2020, 1:36 AM

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nice

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Noctua 40mm fans?

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 1:36 AM

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80mm Arctic Silents

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Apparently they work

rare condor Jul 7, 2020, 1:36 AM

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Nice 2U is it?

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 1:36 AM

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I got a 2KVA 2U Eaton UPS for $100 off gumtree

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yeah

ancient anchor Jul 7, 2020, 1:36 AM

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see right now i'm not sure if you're talking about linux isos or linux isos

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Cost me $30 to get the fans haha

ancient anchor Jul 7, 2020, 1:37 AM

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because i'm pretty sure i have both on my iodd 😛

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 1:37 AM

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What's an iodd

rare condor Jul 7, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Nice, I paid $40 per 40mm PWM fan

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they are so pricy

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 1:37 AM

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I got a set of 3 for.. lemme check

ancient anchor Jul 7, 2020, 1:37 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/iodd-256-bit-Secure-encrypted-Drive/dp/B07Y464WWN/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=iodd+mini&qid=1594085842&sr=8-2

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emulate dvd drive with iso + vhd files

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 1:37 AM

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An iODD is a device that you can stick ISOs and VHDs on and click to mount

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And it's like... Greatest shit ever

ancient anchor Jul 7, 2020, 1:38 AM

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use mine probably 3x a week

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fantastic buy

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 1:38 AM

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3x Arctic Cooling F8 Low Noise Case Fan 80mm Quiet Silent 3-pin Case Fan
Total: AU $32.90

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 1:38 AM

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Worth every damn penny

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 1:38 AM

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Ah so you can emulate a DVD for booting?

rare condor Jul 7, 2020, 1:38 AM

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When I say Linux ISOs I mean Big Fedora 7 & Backyard Ubuntu 9

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 1:38 AM

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Yes

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 1:39 AM

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Seems handy

pallid nest Jul 7, 2020, 1:39 AM

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Has anyone gotten a Waveshare e-paper display to work with an ESP-32S NodeMCU?

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 1:39 AM

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And you can mount Multiple VHDs and 1 ISO at a time

rare condor Jul 7, 2020, 1:39 AM

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Is that implied?

pallid nest Jul 7, 2020, 1:39 AM

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Trying it through ESPHome and not having any luck.

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 1:39 AM

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It's pretty cool tbh. It uses a port multiplier and SATA to USB 3.0 chip to make some magic happen.

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 1:40 AM

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Very Tempting

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I think I'll get it

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AU Stock yay

rare condor Jul 7, 2020, 1:40 AM

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How much>

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I want to try one

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 1:40 AM

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Right now I have 481 ISOs and 51 VHDs on mine

rare condor Jul 7, 2020, 1:41 AM

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My weller is nice but 110v so not very portable with tranny

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 1:42 AM

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https://www.phaserfpv.com.au/products/ts80p-soldering-iron/?variant=32518767706189&customer=kallan.gerard@gmail.com

Phaser FPV

Miniware TS80P Smart Soldering Iron

The TS80 Electric Soldering Iron is the newer brother of the very popular TS100. Miniware TS80 is a smart soldering iron powered by USB Type-C - Have a look at the many TS80 tips and other Miniware products we offer - Located in NSW Australia

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Plus this is mandatory

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https://www.phaserfpv.com.au/collections/soldering-tools/products/miniwarets80solderingtipd25?variant=20944056451149

Phaser FPV

Miniware TS80 SOLDERING TIP D25

Tip Type:TS-D25Length:about 100mm(60+40mm)Weight:14.3gIt's a internal-heated heating core specially for TS80,tip and heater as a whole.

rich kettle Jul 7, 2020, 1:43 AM

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man i need one of those

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 1:44 AM

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MG Chemicals 8341 10ml Flux Paste In Syringe Dispenser MG8341-10ML [DG]
$28.95

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Wow what a rip

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They're $15ex GST on element14

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 1:44 AM

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USB C soldering iron? Yus

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 1:44 AM

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PD 2 for 30w

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Damn they even added PD communication to it?

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Solid.

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 1:48 AM

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Hmm @rare condor that kit doesn't include the powersupply

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There's one on backorder that includes the power supply and the cable and grounding clip

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Probably worth waiting for that one

rare condor Jul 7, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Is it USB C fast charge in which case I could just use all the 65w dell usb c chargers I have, bought them cheap from ali

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 1:49 AM

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I'm not sure

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PD 2.0 whatever that means

rich kettle Jul 7, 2020, 1:50 AM

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dell uses usb-c pd

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you should be fine

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 1:50 AM

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Which version though

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Man usb-c is a mess.

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Isn't PD2 backwards compatible?

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 1:51 AM

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QC 2, QC 3, PD1, PD2, PD3, usb2, usb3, usb3.1,

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 1:51 AM

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USB 4.0 is going to alleviate lots of that pain.

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USB 3 GEN1 / GEN2

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heh

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 1:52 AM

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Plus TB3

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TB3 x2, TB3x4

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 1:52 AM

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USB4 is supposed to be TB3 compatible

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 1:52 AM

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This is not the holy cable/connector to rule them all I was promised

rare condor Jul 7, 2020, 1:53 AM

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I think the IRON is PD

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 1:53 AM

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Just wait until they get the communication protocol finished up. Then we should be.

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 1:53 AM

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The iron is PD2.0

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or QC3.0 for 18w

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rare condor Jul 7, 2020, 1:53 AM

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only uses 18w?

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huh

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 1:54 AM

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The TS80 uses QC3.0 for 18w

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So that's USB-A to USB-C from a QC3 power supply

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The TS80P uses that as well as PD2.0 for 30w

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So that's a PD2 usb-c charger.

rich kettle Jul 7, 2020, 1:54 AM

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pd2/pd3 don't make a difference

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for powering a soldering iron

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"Sources say that it's best to use USB PD 2.0 for simple devices that don't necessarily need extra or in depth information presented. One should use USB PD 3.0 if the new features are required in your device's application. "

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aka why your ts80 uses pd2 and not 3

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Will a PD3.0 supply provide =>30w to a PD2 device?

rich kettle Jul 7, 2020, 1:55 AM

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yes

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the power is the same between pd2 and pd3

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 1:56 AM

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I assume the 65w Dell USB-C chargers are PD3

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So that should work Haxxa

rich kettle Jul 7, 2020, 1:56 AM

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the docks are, at least

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 1:58 AM

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Back in my day all usb was 12mbps and 5v 500ma

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It was horrible and we liked it

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 1:58 AM

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Firewire

rare condor Jul 7, 2020, 1:58 AM

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lol we were forced to use firewire in our school labs

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 1:58 AM

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Oofph firewire was a hot mess

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Destroyed devices left right and centre

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Plus a great way to hack a macbook

rare condor Jul 7, 2020, 1:59 AM

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oh and 3.5" flopys never mixed with school children well

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 1:59 AM

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It allowed for the daisy chain

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In a way it was ahead of its time

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It should have stayed in the time It was designed for it though

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Which was the future

rare condor Jul 7, 2020, 1:59 AM

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I didn't like the shape

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Daisy chaining is a PITA in practice

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Star topology ftw

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Honestly just makes things easier in the long run

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Which shape, there were 3 sizes for firewire haha

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 2:00 AM

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All of them lol

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Worst thing about macs is their exclusive use of thunderbolt to do anything

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Not anymore thanks to Intel

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Thunderbolt is being built into some processors

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Trying to build a professional editing workstation with TB2 was a PITA

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 2:01 AM

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An Intel is releasing the patent for free for USB 4.0

rare condor Jul 7, 2020, 2:02 AM

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Thunderbolt is really only useful for Docks

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 2:02 AM

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It's amazing for external gpus

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 2:02 AM

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Give me some internal pci-e slots and some onboard SAS.

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 2:02 AM

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Which has more use than just games

rare condor Jul 7, 2020, 2:02 AM

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eGPU is hit/miss

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 2:02 AM

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Without buying a Mac Pro Rack for $20k which didn't exist a year ago

rare condor Jul 7, 2020, 2:02 AM

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I did it with my Intel Nuc

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always had issues

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 2:02 AM

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You can actually run an external GPU on a ThinkPad x230

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 2:02 AM

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Thunderbolt was hit and miss for pci-e in general

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 2:03 AM

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Thunderbolt is also providing security issues

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 2:03 AM

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Plus expensive, and more cables and powersupplies and failure domains and bottle necks

rare condor Jul 7, 2020, 2:03 AM

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usb-c is hit/miss in general

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 2:03 AM

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Don't blame the connector

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 2:03 AM

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For workstations pci-e just works

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But mac gave the middle finger to professionals a long time ago

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Lots of people in the creatives industry moved to Windows for reasons like that

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Plus their thermal throttling that cripples your expensive processor

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 2:04 AM

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With adobe actively working on a Photoshop and creative cloud solution for Linux in addition to AutoCAD be imported to a web platform, they can all go to hell

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Anything but GIMP

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Photoshop is the only viable alternative.

rare condor Jul 7, 2020, 2:05 AM

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😦 I like GIMP

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 2:06 AM

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🤢

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I would pay to not use GIMP

rare condor Jul 7, 2020, 2:06 AM

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I was the only kid in Visual Design Class using it

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 2:07 AM

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And that's why adobe is working on a Linux version

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They finally saw the dollar signs

rare condor Jul 7, 2020, 2:07 AM

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They had 25 years to do that

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 2:07 AM

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I don't have faith in Adobe to pull anything off though

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They can't even get creative cloud stable

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 2:07 AM

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Who knows? Maybe if they have a pure Linux platform to work off of they can actually pull it off

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This is another chance for them to roll the dice.

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 2:08 AM

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I don't know many creatives using linux

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 2:08 AM

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Yet

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 2:08 AM

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It's 2/3 Mac 1/3 Windows

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And they're not the 'linux' type

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 2:09 AM

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It is slowly becoming a viable alternative to even the most basic of users.

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A distribution worth noting is elementary OS

trail crag Jul 7, 2020, 2:11 AM

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my daughter was using elementary OS 5 years ago when she was 9

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 2:11 AM

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Where did you find about creative cloud on linux

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 2:12 AM

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At a Linux convention in Austin Texas. This is a couple years ago. Adobo had two Representatives out there

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Hmm

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I can't find anything online

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Might be vaporware

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Yeah sure does tell you a lot when it's been a couple years

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They have been spontaneous at times though.

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 2:14 AM

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If Adobe had server agents for rendering that would be awesome

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They have basically zero cluster ability

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Or even any real headless ability

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 2:14 AM

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That's what creative cloud should be

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Especially if you're going to add cloud to the name

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 2:15 AM

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I'm not sure Id want to edit over the internet TBH

mild tapir Jul 7, 2020, 2:15 AM

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AutoCAD is doing that now.

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And it's really not that bad

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 2:15 AM

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It's like a VOIP call with 200ms of delay, it just ruins your brain feedback loops

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Production editing can not fuck around with any impediments

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Anyways time to study Design Patterns, have a job interview on Friday

last dirge Jul 7, 2020, 2:27 AM

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what's your favorite?

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mine's probably the builder pattern

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the anti-patterns of most common patterns outweigh their utility

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when the Llama's ass is once again whipped

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 2:37 AM

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winwinwinwinwinwinammpppp

trail crag Jul 7, 2020, 2:37 AM

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winamp had the best music visualization 😛

hushed basalt Jul 7, 2020, 2:37 AM

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@last dirge I'll let you know once I learn them 😉

sharp spire Jul 7, 2020, 2:46 AM

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I still use winamp

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Still one of the best minimal players

scenic radish Jul 7, 2020, 2:49 AM

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One of the best winimal players

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https://media.tenor.com/images/94b745dc276f255c312ac5ef78078821/tenor.gif

last dirge Jul 7, 2020, 3:04 AM

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I really want an eel roll

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I miss getting sushi :/

scenic radish Jul 7, 2020, 3:07 AM

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Ooh yeah I could go for some salmon and tuna maki rolls rn

last dirge Jul 7, 2020, 3:07 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/unagi-friends-gif-4558582

Tenor

scenic radish Jul 7, 2020, 3:07 AM

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Unagi? Inagi!

last dirge Jul 7, 2020, 3:07 AM

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I made my own salmon maki a while back

scenic radish Jul 7, 2020, 3:07 AM

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Noice

last dirge Jul 7, 2020, 3:07 AM

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turned out okay

📎 MbUCsqvp43OXeG1OiXcMJ4GquGAyqvaLokADM-spFD8jUrbZjvptBUbWrOOHN7dnhMvgbGdf_PlpMTpUgYkXjLdHUQNEmjkTy2S8.png

scenic radish Jul 7, 2020, 3:08 AM

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Ooooooo

last dirge Jul 7, 2020, 3:08 AM

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especially not for my first time ever attempting it

scenic radish Jul 7, 2020, 3:08 AM

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There's a place by me that has 2 maki rolls for $7 three times a week

last dirge Jul 7, 2020, 3:08 AM

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I keep forgetting to check for tuna while at Costco

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so I could do a spicy tuna roll

scenic radish Jul 7, 2020, 3:09 AM

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I've never made maki rolls but I do make pretty good breaded chicken from scratch

last dirge Jul 7, 2020, 3:09 AM

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the hardest part is the rice

scenic radish Jul 7, 2020, 3:09 AM

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That's what I've heard

last dirge Jul 7, 2020, 3:09 AM

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and I've got a japanese rice cooker with a "sushi" setting

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so..

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I just did that, let it cool, then added the mirin and sugar

scenic radish Jul 7, 2020, 3:10 AM

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That's cool

last dirge Jul 7, 2020, 3:10 AM

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sticky AF

scenic radish Jul 7, 2020, 3:10 AM

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Oddly I've found the rice turns out best with my rice cooker when I stop it when it says 12 minutes remaining

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For general use