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NO POLITICS!
Tediore for Congress
gonna file a formal complaint if you keep deleting my stuff @forest edge
The jedi role can delet?
delete his skillz, sure
@ocean mirage no, I was quoting him when he accused me of deleting one of his messages
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And he quoted me back with the gif lol
delete his manlihood, you bet
I just wish I could edit other people's messages lol
you would lose mod in a day if that was possible lol
half a day at most
Oh ye of little faith
have you earned it though? ๐ค
OH
he was on his knees alot...
not sure I want to hear about that
Check the topics of different channels
tnx...
Heh, Well, I got my Intel NUC today. Not /entirely/ happy about the 128GB SSD being AData brand, but, it'll do I guess.
Just run it till it burns out
Consumer SSDs didn't last long in my old industry, where you could write several TB a day
Yeah, like my hundreds of killed Intel SSD's. ๐
But yeah. this NUC's going to be my new HASS dedicated box.
The early ssds were the best form
Got my TPLink PoE too, so now my CloudKey Gen2+ is now operational, finally. ;D
Honest question, why not just install unifi controller on your server?
Hmm. Haven't noticed much resource usage on my end

I just spun up a docker container for it
It required 4gb rams for me to not be alerting constantly
I have to bump up the Java heap size or performance suffers
Is that an added emoji to this server?
Odd... I'm currently sitting at 1.3GB used out of 3.7GB
Hehe. Odd indeed.
I was running 5.10 I think it was?
Older. Last update i managed. lol
I'm on 5.12.72 with no issues
Besides. The Ubiquity camera systems are freakishly good quality. Priced from Hell, but, the quality is pretty amazing, so one day I may actually like to get a camera or two to put up on UniFI Protect.
Yeah, not judging your choice, I was just curious
Oh no, I get it. ๐
|| but the cloud key costs as much as my server did ||
RAM is a huge commodity on my server farm. ๐
I am considering though migrating this to a RockPi Rancher farm. ๐
When I was younger I did shit you kids have only seen in movies but now simplicity is most important
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Don't make me mistake you for Gen Z haha

Heh, So, another interesting situation. I ordered a GoControl Z-Stick via Amazon. First shipment, USPS got, tracking showed it never left the building. Ever. So the shipper sent out another one, different tracking number. Once again, for at least 2 days, no tracking updates at all, just label created. So I reported both tracking numbers to USPS as "where's my package",.
@forest edge I don't understand half the shit gen z says
And I'm probably barely a millennial, born in '92
That was this morning, I reported them. Suddenly this afternoon, BOTH packages have made a move from Miami, FL USPS to Oka-Locka, FL

@scenic radish Heh. Gen Z.
The Gen above never understands half the shit from the Gen below and it goes to 3 qtr for the Gen below that lol
Gen Z is late '90s apparently
Gen X? Sounds pretty boomer
Heh. I'm actually thinking of dropping Pop! OS on this Intel NUC to actually try it out, while also having Ubuntu 20.04 actual on there as well.
Ultimately, it'll be a HASS box, but I have two friends that keep telling me how much they love the new Pop! OS.
Isn't pop basically a fork of Ubuntu?
Thing, came... With .... Windows 10 Pro,... No thanks! I might transfer the Pro key to my MacBook Pro's Parallels for Windows. ๐
I wonder what the Gen Z nickname will be
Yes
or is there already one?
Zoomers?
ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
Hmm...who raised those millennials?
Gen Y
not me, i would have flushed half of you lol jk
hahah
Good lord
My girlfriend's a millenial, but thankfully born Canadian, so didn't get as effected by the Americanized Millenials. ๐
Well... They DO differ. ๐
so if Alpha comes after Z, does Omega come after Alpha? lol
Its simple. Everyone older than me is a boomer, everyone younger is a zoomer
heh
I'm going to get Dahua cameras when I get a house
Still, MTV Generation? Sure, I watched a little, but, that wasn't my lifeblood.
They have sony imagers in them.
think you mean Huawei
So, boomer == older, zoomer == younger. So, @ocean mirage is a Millenial?
he's certianly not a Y
heh
etc
But, see the boomers are older than even ME, the Baby Boomers.
okay boomer
that term goes for both X and Y
For /me/ the boomers ARE actually older. ๐
what term?
Baby Boomer
Does it?
what
yes
since always?
Nah man... Boomers ended in '64
^
try 79
Gen X is '65~79
Absolutely nothing I see aout baby boomers confirms that GenX was somehow included into that.
there isnt much debate on this, what Psi is saying is generally accepted
In fact, as I mentioned earlier GenX has a nickname, although a silly one. the MTV Generation.
X is baby boomer
Negative.
er no, your right
LOL
i'm getting confused by that welfare stretch in the 80's lol
Ohhhhhhh.. Wow..
Yeah, Gen X was kinda the party/MTV generation. ๐
Where all our good ideas for music videos came from. And Wierd Al Yankovic!
Course, Wierd Al's a boomer, but helped start the MTV Generation. LOL
Is X also the 'Me' Generation?
No, that's Gen Y. ๐
Anyone here use myQ?
Gen W is the "Me"
boomers are the me generation
X is the slackers
Correct
me unfortunately@ripe radish
Slackers and Cynics. ๐
I rememeber alot of weed in my youth so slacker might fit lol
And the disaffected.
@ripe radish lemme check
You skurvey dawgs! ๐
Fucking millenials donโt know how good theyโve had it with weed
Theyโve never seen a seed before
@ripe radish yea something funky with the api, myq itself isn't down just the intergration with HA
@forest edge thanks!
why i am getting rid of myq soon
just a shelly 1 with a reed switch
Modern MyQ garage systems donโt work with a simple switch
your myq is baked in?
Yeah, I got a new motor about a year ago
and every garage door has to has terminals for a manual switch
yeah... I hacked my previous garage system with a hard-wired custom circuit board ESP32 design.
I hacked mine as well. MyQ works well enough, when itโs up.
yeah, /when/ it's up MyQ does fail. Cloud ๐คข
I have the little myq hub, works fine most of the time, just when it bugs out, the whole raising the door on it's own is a big no go for me
Never happens to me. Maybe because itโs baked in
yea it happened a few times since last year
WiFi+MyQ. The HUB only adds HomeKit support.
so yours dosen't have a manual switch?
Same, Future
Nope.
They sent me one, but Iโve not installed it
I have a wired switch, but it's digital not analog.
there's no analog anymore.
On Chamberlain anyway.
I have a switch, but I think itโs digital as well. It has a LED pad
led pad? like a display?
Well, the old ones had LEDs too, but theyt uses analog signals to make the LED blinkl.
Very creative, actually. ๐
And who the heck makes an internet connected device that doesnโt get its own time stamp?
Yes
you always buy old tech and make it smart, not buy new smart tech lol
I'll tell you what I'ma do! I'ma rip my motha frackin garage opener up, and see just what I can poke and prod and get my signals accross.
๐
And then I'll call it. MyX!
but then it would just complain and stop working
I tried for a while to hardwire my fancy Liftmaster without success and then just bought a cheapo remote and soldered a relay
Ahh. Boo. Not as good, but functional at least.
yeah, works well enough. it's handy when I'm in a rental car and need to open the garage door, and I have my "good night" program make sure it's closed. other than that, I don't use it much
My ESP32 design detected so many things that were right there. Direction of door travel, limit switches, so it knew if there was an interupt not by guessing/time, but actual logic.
that's nice
yeah.
my ESP hackery hasn't extended to the garage door yet
That was my previous garage door opener.
my ESP8266 boards reboot periodically
or they used to. that makes me kinda nervous
The rubber chain on that snapped, and it was soo old, getting a replacement would've been more than the cost of a new one.
but that's probably what I'd do if I did it over again
I tried to use an ESP8266, but it was /not/ fast enough.
Believe it or not, I needed the ESP32 specifically to analyze the analog signal going through the control wire at a fast enough rate that didn't effectively drop the wifi signal.
I spent waaaaayy to much time on that for my garage to just die so quickly. LOL
I even made my own oscilliscope to analyze that signal!
And FYI, that specific signal.... Was the signal of the soft lock, which caused the LED to blink, but left the original button control signals the same. it was incredible timing. ๐
Roast me
@scenic radish what we looking at? a modem and switch?
Yup
fancy looking switch lol
no clue about tp link as a modem but as a switch it should be fine
i'm confused
I thought you got a router?
or is that a combo unit? lol
I did, but I still have tp-link equipment
Nah it's just a modem
Tplink modem and switch, edgerouter x, unifi ap
where is the router?
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And yeah I figured all unmanaged switches are probably the same anyway
yea
hard to mess something like that up
I have d link ones that have been in service for i don't evvven remember how long lol
you mean 3.1
Wish I did
well hell i think comcast was one of the first to roll that out and you been missing it this whole time? lol
cringes at that slow speed.
Iโd trade it off for more upload
Iโm on 100/40 which is still shit but I prefer having the upload
it's more than just speed improvements lol
I don't do anything that requires much upload
And if I had gigabit down I'd be wasting my money
Hi is this where I get support for my Hassio installation on my rasperbery pi 1
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yea if you can get it to run

this would be the place to discuss creative uses of it in an art project
Set up appropriate firewall rules @brazen fable
Firewall rules are fine. But it won't show the web interface on both vlans
What's the objective here
You could make the frontend accessible from the other VLAN...with firewall rules
I have a completely isolated vlan that has no intervlan access or internet access. I need Hass.io to be able to use both of them.
The VM already has two interfaces that connect to both vlans i use it for security cameras
Exactly what I've been saying
Iโve decided to revive the topic and say that Home Assistant OS canโt be configured with multiple network interfaces in mind, so those who want to use multiple interfaces such as myself must go with standard Home Assistant Core and forget about addons for good.
I would simply go with a standard Home Assistant Core as you get a lot more flexibility than running Home Assistant OS. The only problem is you have to have a hands-on experience with Linux command line, so Iโd recommend going with Debian and modify /etc/network/interfaces as follows (using your favorite text editor such as vi, vim, emacs, or nano):
Found my answer.
What i'm trying to do isn't possible. Yikes
But...firewall rules?
Looks like I'll have to go the firewall route perhaps. What I really wanted was to be able to set it up on two different physical networks
Both on the same router?
damn i missed the generation thing .... if you believe in working for what you have ....earning what you get ...... not having your feeling on short string ...i am good
"millennials bad" was the conversation earlier
Oh. What's wrong with millenials
well for the most part thats a true statement
from a perspective of a older man .... like i said above if the shoe fits where it ....if you do the right things it doesnt matter what age you are
Well yeah
well i hire people all the time and sadly the younger generation does not want to work aka "get the job done" .... i dont want to hear its not in my job description
Because I'm going to have two separate physical networks.
So hold on
Is one going to be remote?
Please explain more
Iโm trying to figure out why you are not using the same gear for everything and just vlan it out
For a Home
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One network doesn't need internet access at all. So 1 modem.
I have like 30 routers but that's besides the point
So why not just have it all on the same switch, switches and vlan it out with all networks blocked by default?
Wow..
that's one heck of a landslide.
Hassos is not for you
I have like 30 routers but that's besides the point
@brazen fable like hooked up? lol
And before 30 eeros
Hooked up? God no lol
was about to ask you what Hotel you running
I'm starting to remember why I dropped wemo
I was about to be disappointed that you didnโt use layer 3 switches
that or you were taking the physical apprach to @brisk glen 's vlan approach๐
Don't really need layer 3 for my house.
And I'm still torn on which new top of rack switch I'm going to buy
I was thinking about unifi yeah
Their new switches are fanless
I do have some unifi kit in my house. UDM Pro is my primary router right now
Probably going to end up with this one https://www.ui.com/unifi-switching/unifi-switch-16-xg/
Dam, still on that usg
UDM pro since the latest firmware is pretty darn good
I have been avoiding it due to all of the issues it has been having
It's still got a few missing features but they'll get to it
But the standard stuff has been rock solid
Still can't use the sfp+ as primary wan which is a little goofy
but until i get my multi-gig connection at home it's moot
and if it's not ready by then i'll just switch back to the pfsense box
i have a single unifi HD AC for my IoT stuff
and for my high performance/home network I use two aruba 515's
2.4gbps link on wifi ax stuff. It's pretty neat
Not going WiFi 6 till 6e is out
I'll do that when i get clients that actually use it
Canโt
wifi 6? what?
Yeah I think I'm done with MyQ too. The API goes down/changes like once a month and it's obnoxious
Or just loses connectivity altogether
it's a user agent change, not a big deal, and honestly i had fixed it locally in seconds..
For the tech professionals here
Do you find a lot of juniors are really bad at scalable design and root cause analysis
especially root cause
Well, heh, I tinkered a little bit with Pop! OS, (basically Ubuntu) for about an hour. Not diggin it. ๐
@brazen fable look at mikrotik
Yeah that was option 2. They have a 10gig switch that rivals the unifi for half the cost
and it'd be more modular so that's a plus
Nah I got fiber run throughout
and i'll probably end up using the sfp+ to nbaseT modules for stuff like connections to APs
yeah there'd probably only be 1 per switch TBH
because i'm going to use cheap mikrotik switches as endpoints
blinks.
U guize are cra ๐ฟ
more like 3 snaps in a Z formation
heh
https://www.amazon.com/Mikrotik-CSS326-24G-2S-RM-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B0723DT6MN It's a bit yuge for end points but you can't beat the price.
Only downside is external PSU
my dumbass refused a FedEx package because I thought it was more hemorrhoid cream for the asian guy that gets misdelivered to me all the time
turns out the Aliexpress order I had that said it shipped DHL actually used FedEx
Might wanna hold on to that tho
I can hide it behind stuff. It's NBD
Becomes a real pita in a rack
so I gotta deal with that
I really wish they came out in a smaller form factor that gave the same power/feature set.
It's 24 ports, not sure how much smaller than 1u it could get
yeah but no RJ45
It has one 1G rj45
need like 8 at each end point
but it's nbd. the mikrotik will do fine there. Just loads of unused ports
lmao
@last dirge , I think I would start accepting the packages and open an eBay hemorrhoids shop...maybe Etsey.
Buttsey
Lmao..... @scenic radish for the win

We each get 1% of all sales
Like this but sfp+ is what you're after?
๐ค....but buttsey
I don't even see what telco posted
what's the model # on that?
It's not sfp+
They will probably release a sfp+ version
Depends on how long you want to wait
oh
Here you gi
Popeyes or I are gonna get banned from doordash...half the orders I've made in the last couple of months have been missing something I ordered
Apparently a missing biscuit is worth a $6.50 credit ๐
Popeyes chicken sandwich? Scale of 1-10?
Tendies ๐ค. Is that your word or theirs?
Lol
Ok, someone was telling me Popeyes chicken sandwich was better than chik-fil-a. And I was like....errrr...no
I looked at Uber eats and said f it
Popeyes sandwich has crunchy breading which is nice but chick fil a is still way better
It def has it uses.
Not paying $24 for a $13 pizza
Unless.....yea.....I have ๐คฃ
I know right
I've taken a liking to doordash
Ever have one of those days when you walk around the house naked the entire day and then it is dinner time
Especially with all the credits I've been getting from the restaurants fucking up my orders
A liking of strangers with potential COVID-19 delivering your food to you?
They leave it at the door
I rather cook
I mean, I cook most of my food
Save $$ so I can buy more hone automation stuff
I doordash once a week generally
In January. Before covid. My wife and I both got the flu. We doordashed dinner for 4 nights straight
Rip chicken noodle soup ๐ฒ
Was totally worth it
I totally have a bunch of soup cans for the ready
I just noticed how much instacart has been ripping us off during covid Costco shopping though
I have a bunch of black beans and rice lol
Black beans....no rice
Hurricane season ๐
I have lots of rice because I could only find the big ass bags during the beginning of COVID
Obese Americans were unable to take them
Aww one of the lights on my poor hue bridge is blinking because I blocked its access to the internet ๐ข
Black beans and ghost pepper hot sauce ๐ฎ
Aww, you could do a dns redirect so it shuts up
Ghost pepper? What are you? Half dead?
Aww, you could do a dns redirect so it shuts up
Hmm. Good idea, didn't think of that
Whatever you're trying to resolve is now...one of my smart plugs
Usually they just like to ping a server
hey gang, QQ. just did a fresh install of hass in virtualbox on ubuntu 20.04 and i cant reach localhost:8123. i made sure the network adapter is in bridge mode, and everything looks like its running
even turned ufw off
So I make them ping HA instead
any ideas?
NO HOME ASSISTANT SUPPORT HERE (look at the other channels for that). NO POLITICS OR RELIGION!
BE CIVIL to one another or get BANNED permanently.
Yeah I'm jk, I'll have it ping my server
awww shoot
lol
lol
well, its the only way i know of to get Supervisor, im a newb
take it i should seek help in #330944238910963714
So newb over to the channel topics and check them out ๐ฟ
also, ghost peppers? what is this, amature hour?
get that carolina reaper catsup going
If it's the HassOS image in a VM, then #330990055533576204
I am in.....send me your hottest
nice
I grow my own Carolina reapers
Hey do you like hot peppers @green inlet ?
Hotter the better
im not a hot pepper person. like, dont get me wrong, i do like spicy
but not to the point of punishing myself
ill watch some Hot Ones to satiate that need
๐คทโโ๏ธ. I have been eating hot stuff for as long as I can remember. I thing my Carolina reaper homemade sauce is tits up ๐ณ
Night night kids โฎ๏ธ
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Alright..... This should.. be fun. Migrating HASS from the laptop to now the NUC.
Hey there ๐
I recently got access to Microsoft Azure with $100 credit. I'm wondering if it's possible to move HA into the cloud?
Possible, yes. Sane, no.
They do have things like IOT-Hub but I don't think this is useful for HA
Any integration using mDNS/broadcast/multicast won't work.
You rely on your Internet connection (and their service) for everything.
You've moved a local automation platform to the cloud.
Makes sense, thanks for the heads-up!
But I do want to use the store credit. I just can't think of anything useful ๐
Azure ๐คข ๐คข
whats wrong with azure?
Their IOThub is usefull for companies having sensors in devices
A nice usecase could be a farmer with sensors in his field.
Azure is generally overpriced imo, and prone to downtime
Also with sensors in the field LoRA makes more sense
You only pay for what you use ;D
Also, you do not need to purchase any hardware upfront
On premise is still cheaper in most cases, even with power and cooling factored in @dull belfry
Really? I'm currently learning AZ-900 and i've been told that it's way more expensive ๐
That is marketing fud
And you need to manage everything, which does also cost $$
You are saying that on premise is more flexible?
Yes
You can repurpose and recable your hardware in less than an hour, to account for another piece of hardware being broken
And even move the hardware to a second site if needed, and no internet access required
Your telling me the opposite of what I've learned. I dunno what to believe now, thanks
I've worked in the enterprise space for 13 years, with customers in cloud, on premise and dark sites
Don't know what to tell you

From where I sit the answer is a bit of both. On prem gives you a very different kind of flexibility to in cloud
There's other things to consider too, where on prem can be much more advantageous, or cloud can be
Most of the customers I've had who moved to cloud have since moved back, except for office and maybe azuread for some
I've seen quite a few that have started moving all cloud, and ended up hybrid
No
I'm not sure how aws kinesis compares to gcp and azures offerings
For most norwegian customers cloud has made no sense yet because of laws regarding personal data requiring data to not leave the country
Cloud has a much smaller barrier of entry
As such before we have local DC's from the providers it isn't feasible
Small business makes up a huge portion of the economy and no way should they have on prem
I guess there's a difference between companies with $100k budgets on IT and $10m+
Even dentist offices with three dentists run on prem here still
They really should be on saas though
Their little win2008 tower under the receptionist desk goes down they're in the shir
Usually they have a single server, with tape backup and ups
And 4h response for hardware
That was SOP back when I started working in IT, which wasn't yesterday ๐
hahaha Usually
I seen so many small buisnesses aww look at my super server with raid - nothing ever ll go wrong (1)
It still is ๐
anyone know how long it takes to update HA
mines been trying to reconnect for 1hour rn
Roughly 1 minute for me
~which @light phoenix
@light phoenix Not sure which install you're using?
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If you're using HassOS, flashed an image, or booted a VM with an image you're using #330990055533576204
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If you're running
dockercommands or use a Docker manager and have no add-ons then you have #449717345808547842 -
Finally, if you use
pipto install or upgrade you have #551864459891703809
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BE CIVIL to one another or get BANNED permanently.
home assistant
Then begone ๐
ok lol
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Ah yes, congratulations on surviving another year you young fart ๐
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Hey fellow home assistant addicts ๐ this is a amazing project! Thanks to all of you
happy to provide help and/or sarcasm anytime
sarcasm it is then ๐
i have done some code for trash/recycling dates and days left until date of collection currently with some bash scripts and cmd sensors, i was wondering what would be the best way to provide usage of it to others who might are interested (pretty local though switzerland canton of zurich, no universal data form for whole swiss available)
could it be added to a project or shall i look into a home assistant or hacs plugin to provide it to others?
git/python (not my 1st pref though) knowledge i have just wondering what would be the best way to do it
Custom component if you're going the HACS route, but no bash scripts and stuff there ๐
Otherwise, Share my projects on the forum
sounds legit its not rocket since and a few lines of py i should be able to do, is there a channel here which would make sense to disucss things if i would have questions? i see custom-comp is archived
also i invested lots of time to run my whole stack in aws with a site-site vpn to a raspi running a vpn server at home, would be happy to share knowledge there aswell if anyone is interested
cool thanks for the help! this project really saved me in the corona boredom ๐
Run a local first automation platform in the cloud... ๐ค
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...
Takes all sorts I suppose ๐คท
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hehe yeah sound stupid i know but for the sake of reliabillity/backup scalabillity etc it was just the way to go for me
of course all encrypted and secure, probably more that running and maintaining a customzied remote accessible infra at home - at least that were my thoughts
- if you dont have a 1vendor local only sensor/actor setup you might end up collection data from cloud services anyway so why clodge your home network with that traffic
but yeah just my thoughts thats the great thing of the project its open do as you wish
(ofc in my solution the vpn is to interact with non proteced local devices - where you dont want to expose such ports to the world)
@scenic radish contacted FedEx and they said "the seller has to contact us or we'll return it"
so I called back in to the IVR and tracked the package and selected the "hold at a location" and boom
It exploded?
I read up about home assistant and it was so cool i created an instance literally at 1am
urgh - Updating the Pi4 EEPROM isnt as straightforward as thourght
yea.. good chances that I did something wrong ๐
๐ฏ You have to brake it first to get it right
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leftover fries and tendies are possibly the worst leftover foods
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I've had good luck with no burning ๐
Though, I wouldn't complain because I like burnt food lol

I mean, not scorched
Not pure carbon
But I'll take a little extra maillard anytime
Also @clear ferry you like raw ground beef and bacon so get outta here
Happy ๐ ฑ๏ธ irthday ๐ ฑ๏ธ oi

Happy birthday ๐ฅณ

Happy birthday!
This pen is r...r...rooooooyallll blueeeeeee!
@scenic radish I lost my train of thought with al the emojis

๐คฃ

@shy comet when are we going to get a taste test?
lol
depends on when the world isnt on fire ๐
until then i can share the recipe ๐
So after the civil war of November 2020 then
Just ordered 10 of those 4ft led 5000 kelvin lights for my garage... Iโm all set to work from home ๐
Just saw Google gave all employees $1000 to refurbish their home office
Nagged my managers for the same

Like most things in this country, our tax code is dictated by private companies
namely Intuit
I saw a documentary on Norway yesterday that they are building tunnel across the country and spending 47BN! Crazy!!!
2025 is what they say. Part of it may be done already.
To remove ferries
Yup. Something like 39 highway or something.
@last plaza can you link to those LEDs?
Here , try this:
http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=atlanterhavsveien
HiLetgo MAX7219 Dot Matrix Module... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FFV537V?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share @rain swift

You need to daisy chain at least 2 of them, and yes, you can see it from 50ft distance. They are pretty bright!
I run them at the lowest brightness (at 1). Only use high brightness for custom messages - that is at 10. It will get your attention for sure!
Just ordered 10 of those 4ft led 5000 kelvin lights for my garage... Iโm all set to work from home ๐
@last plaza
this
hmm now to think about how to make it waterproof...wife wants a way to see notifications outside along with BBQ and pool when we are on the patio
Hi all
long time lurker of home assistant on reddit and how now finally joined ๐
welcome!
@rain swift ah! Those are on Samsclub.
I got a 3 car garage, going to install them in there. Right now the bulbs I have doesnโt really throw enough light
hmm now to think about how to make it waterproof...wife wants a way to see notifications outside along with BBQ and pool when we are on the patio
@shy comet print some 3D case around it
Hanging down, like I have the roof height for that
Our garage ceiling height is about 14ft. Hanging would be no problem.
What is that in freedom fractions?
boom roasted
Amazon warehouse burns to the ground in Redlands, California. (June 5th, 2020) - https://v.redd.it/sab4p74dy3351
Ooooof
Hope all the people were ok
No injuries reported yet
Where's Elon Musk ๐ค
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1268603809409888256 "Time to break up Amazon. Monopolies are wrong!"
hey anyone that can help with a hassio account issue?
@pearl gate if you mean your hassio account for the HA cloud then see #cloud-archived if you are talking about logging into the HA interface then you most likely want to ask in #330990055533576204
Hi thanks i've asked on cloud.
If it's related to nabu casa then that's the best spot to ask


eMMC. Intel NIC. USB-C. Looking nice
Oooh... _full-size mini-PCIe _
(full size mini, heh)
damn, that is tightly packed
@clear ferry that pic lol, damn

@forest edge did you update the firmware? I haven't had a chance to look into it yet
@steel urchin no i don't use the app at all
Guys, I have a pi3b running hassio, and tbh its just fine, though a bit slow when restarting due to config changes etc.
I have a Pi4 that I am considering upgrading to, but my Aotec zwave controller is not working on the pi4.
So my idea was to use my pi3 with zwave2mqtt, and use my pi4 as my main controller for hassio.
Is that bad practice, pro's cons anyone?
NO HOME ASSISTANT SUPPORT HERE (look at the other channels for that). NO POLITICS OR RELIGION!
BE CIVIL to one another or get BANNED permanently.
oh sorry wrong channel
but you just need a USB hub to use your dongle on pi4
no cons really. Pro's are that you can restart your pi4 faster
I guess a con is '2 systems'
but whatever
Amazon warehouse burns to the ground in Redlands, California. (June 5th, 2020)
@clear ferry well so much for @tidal bronze 's projects lol
Yikes all 3100 cameras ๐ฆ
But if you post there and reveal you have an installation with add-ons I'll hit you with a ๐ก
Flounder is my weapon of choice, personally
๐ก is @scenic radish favorite
No ones there ๐ฆ
I was there, I just left because they have fish in the lounge.
๐
I heard you might like hot peppers
@steel urchin hope you made a killing today ๐ What a ride
I think we all made a killing didnโt we?
I actually haven't traded in a week, been up to other junk
If that's what you're meaning... What'd I miss?
The market went bonkers
Of course I havenโt made a trade all year so Iโm about back where I started.
@scenic radish , you need to start slapping people with ๐ฎ and ๐
It started going bonkers before the bell @ripe radish ๐
Nice. Same here. What a way to end the week
Watch Trump try and take credit
You better hope Tinkerer is sleeping. ๐คฃ
He a fan?
And Tediore is out of fish
@ripe radish NO HOME ASSISTANT SUPPORT HERE (look at the other channels for that). NO POLITICS OR RELIGION!
BE CIVIL to one another or get BANNED permanently.
@steel urchin United was too good today. Did you get in when it tanked ?
Nope, I didn't
Trade Chat. 3 beans for the family cow
LMAO
lol Tediore accidently deletes #330990055533576204 instead
"accident"
Lmao
fuck
Someone immediately asked what the channel is for, that was nuts
Like...one second after
I thought only Skalavala could create channels. I saw it and was like huh
Abuse of power ๐คฃ
My favorite radio station's morning show hosts do something called "F the Format" on Friday mornings...maybe we should do that here on Friday nights
Except maybe me after that stunt
@scenic radish ding ding ding
I say every Friday night, we delete all the homeassistant channels and rename them to something easier for people to understand.....wait.....
banned
I can always say at least I didnโt create a bartering channel
bring back #hassio and make the topic say, one channel to rule them all. just annoy some people lol
I want #hassio-in-docker back
That was a good time
Ha! You've been bamboozled!
That might have been before your time sonoma
I don't remember such channel
It was a honeypot channel explaining that "Hassio in Docker" isn't a thing

wonder what the protests will tear up this weekend lol
you in cali?
yup
from the news aspect you would think California had the worst of it
saturday was nuts
I don't know if other places just are not recording whats going on, not in the right place or if the people aren't as bold as Californians lol
lol from what i saw a lot of it was you had to be recording at the time it happened cuz its like 2-3 seconds of craziness
yea last video i saw was the police trapping looters inside a boarded up buisness then the looters busting through the playwood and escaping while the police watched
bet that buisness owner was pissed to watch that lol
watching crowds of like 30 people trying to break into a store for 5 minutes
They just showed a business owner on the news that had cameras inside his business. He was telling how hard it was to sit and watch looters empty his business and not being able to do anything
oh yes i was watching that one live
urban outfitters
that chick standing in front of the looters too was crazy
I think this was in Charlotte. Prob examples all over the country.
we were watching Fox when the Van Nuys thing happened where the looters were begging to break into a store
and when the cops showed up they arrested the owner like wtf
lmao
I made the comment on my city subreddit about how the califronia news anchors were saying it was all minorities looting the places they were filming and got banned for it lol
people are going nuts all over
What... The heck. Officers just standing by watching people leaving the scene of a crime?
yup
Peaceful protest is good....it brings about change. The problem is, like anything good, some knuckleheads have to ruin in. Instigators and people with a different agenda ruin would could be a good thing
And that's in Florida? What the heck am I doing in this pathetic state?
if i owned that place I would be sueing the police force lol
Exactly!
florida? no
that was in long beach california
ohhh! Long Beach CA, not FL. ๐
haha
Step up and take the front line. They are damned if they do and damned if they donโt
Heh. Well, there IS a Long Beach FL!
the one of hte cop hitting the person at Pershing Square and then driving away was crazy too
lots of videos of cops doing bad things and barely being punished
to top it off now this happening all over https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=uXpSY_1591293515
people are showing their true colors
and to think were not even 1/2 way through this year lol
pandemic stirred the pot lol
Well, hmmmm....
I love that the buffalo response team all resigned when they suspended those officers
they were supposed to do livepd tonight but its apparently been a topic in a few places so they decided not to have it
havent seen much asides from protesting today but havnet been paying attention much today lol
you know those 80's movies like robocop where it shows mass chaos in the streets with rioters tearing everything up and crack head looking gangs forming? they have predicted the future!
The news just did nothing but piss me off. ๐คฃ. Havenโt watched it in months.....guess I will check in again sometime in October
Gotta help a few friends with damaged stores tomorrow.
๐ฆ
damn i hate that
i was kinda glued to tv saturady night cuz of how crazy it was all day
oh no, your putting yourself in harms way!
No, after we are all going to join the walk, after cleaning up.
defund the police
@ocean mirage ban him! politics!
Lmao....
it wasnt me
I wish just one city would get the blue flu and see if anyone changes their mind
@shy comet for some its a payday from insurance claims ๐
we should start seeing some data start coming in on if the covid has spread like wildfire amongst these protestors by now
yea this coming week i think
lol mass chaos then one day.. nothing.. everyone home sick lol
@shy comet LA defund 150 or 250 mil?
im not sure i saw both numbers get mentioned
Good for low income after-school programs, they can restart
Alright! The 9 O'Clock bell is 10 minutes away. It is Friday. Time to bring out the scotch. Muahahahahaha
@undone aspen what kind ?
Glenlivet 14 year Cognac cask.
Nice thats a good one. Starting Friday out....
Hehe. Indeed. I do tend to like the fruity scotches, and prefer single malt to blended, or speyside.
Been trying to find yamasaki for sometime now. On the blended side I like green and double black.
Oh the Japanese one?
Yes, that's on top of my list always.
On single malt.
Yep. What are your thoughts on Balvenie ?
Well, it's Speyside. Probably a bit harsh because of that. Never had it specifically though, that I recall.
Double wood is awesome ๐
Ardbeg, Macallan, Glenlivet, Glenfiddich, Lagavulin, Kilchoman, Chivas Regal (about the only blended I like), and Glen Morey (Speyside)
Those are my specific picks I usually look for. ๐
Chivas is a door stopper for me. Lol. Glen Morey ๐
Yeah, it's not bad in a social gathering.
How is Ardbeg?
Ardbeg is not bad for a Islay one, and a much younger one.
That's if you like the smokey flavored ones, definitely good.
So is it love or hate on blue ?๐คฃ
heh
The most polarizing drink I know.
Meh. My least favorite is Johnnie Walker.
Best distillery experience so far ๐
They have to have a good distillery, because they blend so much crap into their bottles. ๐
Lol
I am sampling a 1/2 angry orchard 1/2 blackberry white claw from 2020. Very smooth
Interesting. original angry orchard?
Yes sir
White claw ๐
hehe.
50/50 too
Angry orchard is too sweet. The blackberry white claw cuts it and adds some fizz ๐คฃ
Angry Orchard is definitely good. I don't ever drink beer. Nasty stuff. Ciders are a fair comrpomise from non-spirits serving establishments to have decent tasting low-strength alcoholic beverages.
No beer on this side as well unless world is coming to an end.
well........ ๐
Michelob ultra ๐คฃ
There is a Pandemic...
Michelin ultra ๐คฃ
@green inlet what type of tread ?
Damn auto correct
Guess you won't fishtail ๐
And you copied it before I changed it
heh
nice one!
It's funny. Looking suddenly at one of my dogs randomly sleeping/sitting/laying within my proximity, and they stare back at me, like I'm the most interesting thing in the entire world and it is exciting to be looked at.
heh, and the other thing I'm trying to figure out. What's the safest way to cut a ~20' angle wedge, from a 2x4, and then cut away the rest of the wood leaving just the wedge itself.
... on a table saw.
Best if you try to figure out things like that when you are sober ๐
Oh, not turning that thing on tonight. LOL
enough said if you bleed red
how are you guys running hass? are most of you using rpis?
I tried the RPi3, then RPi4B, nope. Too slow.
nope for the rpi4?
it's okay for getting started,.
@tidal bronze you with me or against?
hmm
Good ole red blooded American Budweiser. Canโt go wrong.
@undone aspen what kind of heavy processing does hass use for a rpi4 to not be good enough?
Addons, cameras, integrations, automations.
@gentle ferry , I ran a rpi3 for years till I added streams. It is a great platform to start on. Especially with the latest version and the upcoming native openzwave daemon.
The only thing that is faster on my NUC over the RPI is startup time and upgrades. My mesh network is almost identical to the RPI.
hmm, because i'm going to add cameras first then the sensors/switches/etc...
How many cameras?
yeah, 4 at least I believe lol
I backup my NUC to a rpi3. I have three cameras. The RPI3 can handle it but it struggles and lags. If you want live cameras, I would look for something outside a SBC
Or use multiple SBC's for limited cameras, and remote storage for them.
I ended up adopting Ring Stick-Up cams to replace my Wyze Cams., ๐
@green inlet the idea is to run an nvr (motioneye maybe) on my "home server" (an old core2 duo laptop) and hass be on a rpi talking to the nvr
@dull chasm always with.
i don't even know if that will work, these are just thoughts so far
Live streams still go to the HAss frontend
you mean on demand live streams?
Yes sir.
why not view live streams on motioneye directly? why does it have to be hass? i think i'm missing something
I don't use hass for streaming live.
๐คทโโ๏ธ. I view live streams direct to HAss. Like I said, for details, ask in #cameras-archived
motionEye just runs on the same host running hass.
motionEye just runs on the same host running hass.
@undone aspen makes sense in this case
how hard is it to start with hass? i never used it before ๐
Start by reading as much as you can. There are plenty of people that will help but they want to see effort on your end. As an example, before HAss, I could barely spell Linux. Now I have a pretty advanced home automation system and can even help people out here and there. But read read read
@green inlet cool, i'm well versed in linux. Logic is all based on YAML I believe, right?
i mean written in yaml
Yes....if you want granular control, look at the alternate installs. Virtual environments and docker. If you want point and click, the supervisor and add-on installs. But again, go out, read the docs, and come with intelligent questions. Donโt expect people to do it for you
I recommend starting here: https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/
Actually, here https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/ is easier on the eyes ๐
Yes....if you want granular control, look at the alternate installs. Virtual environments and docker. If you want point and click, the supervisor and add-on installs. But again, go out, read the docs, and come with intelligent questions. Donโt expect people to do it for you
@green inlet of course
and...
NO HOME ASSISTANT SUPPORT HERE (look at the other channels for that). NO POLITICS OR RELIGION!
BE CIVIL to one another or get BANNED permanently.
honestly, i don't have a lot of idea for now, except maybe trigger something based on motion. I have some hw that came with the place, but i still need a lot ๐
@static schooner yes I saw that
Start slow, and build. Home assistant is awesome
yep
I started with one zwave switch. Now I have fans, switches, thermostats, vacuum, leak sensors, garage, cameras......the list goes on. Probably a little obsessive but most guys on this discord still blow my install out of the water
that is awesome
Hehe.
my house came with hw that depend on 3rd parties which i don't really like
I have not just one but now apparently two GoControl Z-Sticks coming my way.
Yeah my house I set up with Lutron Caseta Light switches and dimmers. I control those with a Lutron Caseta Pro hub specifically.
@green inlet Zwave ๐คข
I mostly use zwave. The GoControl stick does both zwave and Zigbee
every thing I have needs its own app lol, some do have hass integrations, but it's all online, not local which i don't appreciate
But i prefer zwave
Skalavala, I need to take video of my mesh. It is practically instanteous
I am moving the route of cloud based integration to use mqtt
My ring stuff is already mqtt and homebridge
@undone aspen is this it? https://www.amazon.com/GoControl-CECOMINOD016164-HUSBZB-1-USB-Hub/dp/B01GJ826F8
I know! Mesh networking is the only plus side of z-wave. Zigbee also has the mesh networking that I prefer.
2.4ghz ๐คข
Yes potatoes
@undone aspen oh, i have a ring doorbell, i didn't know it was possible to not rely on their servers

