#the-water-cooler

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calm crow
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Just chilling ๐Ÿ˜Ž in lounge for now

forest edge
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i love the ascii art for umbrella

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T

forest edge
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NO POLITICS!

hushed basalt
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Tediore for Congress

scenic radish
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gonna file a formal complaint if you keep deleting my stuff @forest edge

ocean mirage
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The jedi role can delet?

forest edge
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delete his skillz, sure

scenic radish
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@ocean mirage no, I was quoting him when he accused me of deleting one of his messages

ocean mirage
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o

scenic radish
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And he quoted me back with the gif lol

forest edge
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delete his manlihood, you bet

scenic radish
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I just wish I could edit other people's messages lol

forest edge
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you would lose mod in a day if that was possible lol

scenic radish
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Ehhh

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Nah. Maybe like a week

orchid rose
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half a day at most

scenic radish
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Oh ye of little faith

orchid rose
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have you earned it though? ๐Ÿค”

scenic radish
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OH

forest edge
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he was on his knees alot...

orchid rose
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not sure I want to hear about that

wet cave
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hello all...

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i'm new to discord, where can i offer ideas?

orchid rose
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Check the topics of different channels

wet cave
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tnx...

undone aspen
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Heh, Well, I got my Intel NUC today. Not /entirely/ happy about the 128GB SSD being AData brand, but, it'll do I guess.

hushed basalt
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Just run it till it burns out

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Consumer SSDs didn't last long in my old industry, where you could write several TB a day

undone aspen
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Yeah, like my hundreds of killed Intel SSD's. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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But yeah. this NUC's going to be my new HASS dedicated box.

forest edge
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The early ssds were the best form

undone aspen
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Got my TPLink PoE too, so now my CloudKey Gen2+ is now operational, finally. ;D

scenic radish
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Honest question, why not just install unifi controller on your server?

undone aspen
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I did. It uses a lot of resources.

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And is a pita to update and maintain.

scenic radish
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Hmm. Haven't noticed much resource usage on my end

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I just spun up a docker container for it

undone aspen
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It required 4gb rams for me to not be alerting constantly

static schooner
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I have to bump up the Java heap size or performance suffers

forest edge
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Is that an added emoji to this server?

scenic radish
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Odd... I'm currently sitting at 1.3GB used out of 3.7GB

undone aspen
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Hehe. Odd indeed.

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I was running 5.10 I think it was?

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Older. Last update i managed. lol

ocean mirage
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it fits the theme of the rest of the emojis

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||bad||

scenic radish
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I'm on 5.12.72 with no issues

undone aspen
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Besides. The Ubiquity camera systems are freakishly good quality. Priced from Hell, but, the quality is pretty amazing, so one day I may actually like to get a camera or two to put up on UniFI Protect.

scenic radish
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Yeah, not judging your choice, I was just curious

undone aspen
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Oh no, I get it. ๐Ÿ™‚

scenic radish
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|| but the cloud key costs as much as my server did ||

undone aspen
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RAM is a huge commodity on my server farm. ๐Ÿ™‚

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I am considering though migrating this to a RockPi Rancher farm. ๐Ÿ™‚

forest edge
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When I was younger I did shit you kids have only seen in movies but now simplicity is most important

scenic radish
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๐Ÿ†— ๐Ÿ’ฅ ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‡ท

forest edge
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Don't make me mistake you for Gen Z haha

ocean mirage
undone aspen
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Heh, So, another interesting situation. I ordered a GoControl Z-Stick via Amazon. First shipment, USPS got, tracking showed it never left the building. Ever. So the shipper sent out another one, different tracking number. Once again, for at least 2 days, no tracking updates at all, just label created. So I reported both tracking numbers to USPS as "where's my package",.

scenic radish
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@forest edge I don't understand half the shit gen z says

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And I'm probably barely a millennial, born in '92

undone aspen
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That was this morning, I reported them. Suddenly this afternoon, BOTH packages have made a move from Miami, FL USPS to Oka-Locka, FL

ocean mirage
undone aspen
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@scenic radish Heh. Gen Z.

ocean mirage
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(I am also 92)

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Gen Z seems aight

forest edge
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The Gen above never understands half the shit from the Gen below and it goes to 3 qtr for the Gen below that lol

scenic radish
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Gen Z is late '90s apparently

undone aspen
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Yeah. I'm Gen X.

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The best of the best, still alive. ๐Ÿ˜„

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ducks.

ocean mirage
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Gen X? Sounds pretty boomer

scenic radish
undone aspen
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Heh. I'm actually thinking of dropping Pop! OS on this Intel NUC to actually try it out, while also having Ubuntu 20.04 actual on there as well.

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Ultimately, it'll be a HASS box, but I have two friends that keep telling me how much they love the new Pop! OS.

wet pilot
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Isn't pop basically a fork of Ubuntu?

undone aspen
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Thing, came... With .... Windows 10 Pro,... No thanks! I might transfer the Pro key to my MacBook Pro's Parallels for Windows. ๐Ÿ˜„

forest edge
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I wonder what the Gen Z nickname will be

undone aspen
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Yes

forest edge
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or is there already one?

wet pilot
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Zoomers?

forest edge
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is that it?

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or your guess lol

wet pilot
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ยฏ\_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

forest edge
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oh lol

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shit-stains

undone aspen
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No, that's Millenials.

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Oops. LOl

scenic radish
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Hmm...who raised those millennials?

wet pilot
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Gen Y

forest edge
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not me, i would have flushed half of you lol jk

undone aspen
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hahah

scenic radish
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Good lord

undone aspen
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My girlfriend's a millenial, but thankfully born Canadian, so didn't get as effected by the Americanized Millenials. ๐Ÿ˜„

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Well... They DO differ. ๐Ÿ™‚

forest edge
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so if Alpha comes after Z, does Omega come after Alpha? lol

ocean mirage
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Its simple. Everyone older than me is a boomer, everyone younger is a zoomer

undone aspen
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heh

hushed basalt
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I'm going to get Dahua cameras when I get a house

undone aspen
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Still, MTV Generation? Sure, I watched a little, but, that wasn't my lifeblood.

hushed basalt
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They have sony imagers in them.

forest edge
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think you mean Huawei

undone aspen
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So, boomer == older, zoomer == younger. So, @ocean mirage is a Millenial?

forest edge
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he's certianly not a Y

ocean mirage
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This is true of everyone

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just call everyone younger than you zoomer

undone aspen
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heh

ocean mirage
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etc

undone aspen
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But, see the boomers are older than even ME, the Baby Boomers.

ocean mirage
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okay boomer

forest edge
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that term goes for both X and Y

undone aspen
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For /me/ the boomers ARE actually older. ๐Ÿ™‚

ocean mirage
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what term?

forest edge
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Baby Boomer

undone aspen
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Does it?

ocean mirage
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what

forest edge
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yes

undone aspen
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Since when?

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heh

ocean mirage
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it refers to the generation named the baby boomers

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like after ww2

forest edge
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since always?

undone aspen
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Nah man... Boomers ended in '64

ocean mirage
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^

forest edge
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try 79

undone aspen
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Gen X is '65~79

ocean mirage
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yep

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then come the Millenials aka Gen Y

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etc

undone aspen
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Absolutely nothing I see aout baby boomers confirms that GenX was somehow included into that.

ocean mirage
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there isnt much debate on this, what Psi is saying is generally accepted

undone aspen
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In fact, as I mentioned earlier GenX has a nickname, although a silly one. the MTV Generation.

forest edge
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X is baby boomer

undone aspen
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Negative.

forest edge
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er no, your right

undone aspen
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LOL

forest edge
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i'm getting confused by that welfare stretch in the 80's lol

undone aspen
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Ohhhhhhh.. Wow..

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Yeah, Gen X was kinda the party/MTV generation. ๐Ÿ™‚

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Where all our good ideas for music videos came from. And Wierd Al Yankovic!

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Course, Wierd Al's a boomer, but helped start the MTV Generation. LOL

ocean mirage
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Is X also the 'Me' Generation?

undone aspen
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No, that's Gen Y. ๐Ÿ™‚

forest edge
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Me?

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oh there isn't a nickname for x is there

ocean mirage
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wait no

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its the boomers

ripe radish
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Anyone here use myQ?

undone aspen
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Gen W is the "Me"

ocean mirage
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boomers are the me generation

ripe radish
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X is the slackers

undone aspen
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Correct

forest edge
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me unfortunately@ripe radish

undone aspen
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Slackers and Cynics. ๐Ÿ˜„

ripe radish
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@forest edge is it working for you now?

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Mine is down

forest edge
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I rememeber alot of weed in my youth so slacker might fit lol

undone aspen
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And the disaffected.

forest edge
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@ripe radish lemme check

undone aspen
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You skurvey dawgs! ๐Ÿ™‚

ripe radish
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Fucking millenials donโ€™t know how good theyโ€™ve had it with weed

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Theyโ€™ve never seen a seed before

forest edge
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@ripe radish yea something funky with the api, myq itself isn't down just the intergration with HA

ripe radish
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@forest edge thanks!

forest edge
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why i am getting rid of myq soon

ripe radish
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We need an โ€œup down โ€œ service

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In place of what?

forest edge
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just a shelly 1 with a reed switch

ripe radish
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Modern MyQ garage systems donโ€™t work with a simple switch

forest edge
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your myq is baked in?

ripe radish
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Yeah, I got a new motor about a year ago

forest edge
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and every garage door has to has terminals for a manual switch

undone aspen
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yeah... I hacked my previous garage system with a hard-wired custom circuit board ESP32 design.

ripe radish
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I hacked mine as well. MyQ works well enough, when itโ€™s up.

undone aspen
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yeah, /when/ it's up MyQ does fail. Cloud ๐Ÿคข

forest edge
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I have the little myq hub, works fine most of the time, just when it bugs out, the whole raising the door on it's own is a big no go for me

ripe radish
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Never happens to me. Maybe because itโ€™s baked in

undone aspen
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On it's own?

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I have MyQ baked into the actual unit on the ceiling itself, no HUB.

forest edge
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yea it happened a few times since last year

undone aspen
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WiFi+MyQ. The HUB only adds HomeKit support.

ripe radish
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I try not to buy tech that needs a hub

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I use HA to provide HomeKit for MyQ

forest edge
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so yours dosen't have a manual switch?

undone aspen
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Same, Future

ripe radish
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Nope.

forest edge
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ew

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I would chuck it lol

ripe radish
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They sent me one, but Iโ€™ve not installed it

undone aspen
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I have a wired switch, but it's digital not analog.

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there's no analog anymore.

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On Chamberlain anyway.

ripe radish
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I have a switch, but I think itโ€™s digital as well. It has a LED pad

forest edge
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led pad? like a display?

undone aspen
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Well, the old ones had LEDs too, but theyt uses analog signals to make the LED blinkl.

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Very creative, actually. ๐Ÿ™‚

ripe radish
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And who the heck makes an internet connected device that doesnโ€™t get its own time stamp?

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Yes

forest edge
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you always buy old tech and make it smart, not buy new smart tech lol

undone aspen
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I'll tell you what I'ma do! I'ma rip my motha frackin garage opener up, and see just what I can poke and prod and get my signals accross.

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๐Ÿ™‚

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And then I'll call it. MyX!

forest edge
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but then it would just complain and stop working

undone aspen
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lol

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okay. MyB then!

static schooner
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I tried for a while to hardwire my fancy Liftmaster without success and then just bought a cheapo remote and soldered a relay

undone aspen
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heh

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What do you do for status though? ๐Ÿ™‚

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Tilt sensor? Limit switch sensor?

static schooner
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I have a mimo-lite Zwave box that has a relay and sensor

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magnetic sensor

undone aspen
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Ahh. Boo. Not as good, but functional at least.

static schooner
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yeah, works well enough. it's handy when I'm in a rental car and need to open the garage door, and I have my "good night" program make sure it's closed. other than that, I don't use it much

undone aspen
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My ESP32 design detected so many things that were right there. Direction of door travel, limit switches, so it knew if there was an interupt not by guessing/time, but actual logic.

static schooner
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that's nice

undone aspen
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yeah.

static schooner
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my ESP hackery hasn't extended to the garage door yet

undone aspen
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That was my previous garage door opener.

static schooner
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my ESP8266 boards reboot periodically

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or they used to. that makes me kinda nervous

undone aspen
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The rubber chain on that snapped, and it was soo old, getting a replacement would've been more than the cost of a new one.

static schooner
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but that's probably what I'd do if I did it over again

undone aspen
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I tried to use an ESP8266, but it was /not/ fast enough.

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Believe it or not, I needed the ESP32 specifically to analyze the analog signal going through the control wire at a fast enough rate that didn't effectively drop the wifi signal.

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I spent waaaaayy to much time on that for my garage to just die so quickly. LOL

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I even made my own oscilliscope to analyze that signal!

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And FYI, that specific signal.... Was the signal of the soft lock, which caused the LED to blink, but left the original button control signals the same. it was incredible timing. ๐Ÿ™‚

scenic radish
forest edge
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@scenic radish what we looking at? a modem and switch?

scenic radish
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Yup

forest edge
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fancy looking switch lol

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no clue about tp link as a modem but as a switch it should be fine

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i'm confused

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I thought you got a router?

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or is that a combo unit? lol

scenic radish
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I did, but I still have tp-link equipment

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Nah it's just a modem

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Tplink modem and switch, edgerouter x, unifi ap

forest edge
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where is the router?

scenic radish
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This modem has served me well the last three years

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Out of frame

forest edge
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oh, i thought that one wire went from the modem to switch

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i see it doesn't

scenic radish
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Ah no

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I see your confusion though

forest edge
scenic radish
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And yeah I figured all unmanaged switches are probably the same anyway

forest edge
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yea

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hard to mess something like that up

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I have d link ones that have been in service for i don't evvven remember how long lol

scenic radish
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And the modem...it's been fine

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Really just needed any DOCSIS 3.0 one

forest edge
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you mean 3.1

scenic radish
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Wish I did

forest edge
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well hell i think comcast was one of the first to roll that out and you been missing it this whole time? lol

scenic radish
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I've got 200/10, 3.1 wouldn't do me any good

ocean mirage
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10

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Oof

scenic radish
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Yup...

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200 down is nice though

undone aspen
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cringes at that slow speed.

ocean mirage
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Iโ€™d trade it off for more upload

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Iโ€™m on 100/40 which is still shit but I prefer having the upload

forest edge
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it's more than just speed improvements lol

scenic radish
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I don't do anything that requires much upload

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And if I had gigabit down I'd be wasting my money

brazen fable
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Hi is this where I get support for my Hassio installation on my rasperbery pi 1

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๐Ÿ˜

forest edge
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yea if you can get it to run

brazen fable
static schooner
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this would be the place to discuss creative uses of it in an art project

brazen fable
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Real talk where would I go to get hass.io to use two different networks/vlans

forest edge
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all "hass.io" support requires a @scenic radish

scenic radish
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Set up appropriate firewall rules @brazen fable

brazen fable
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Firewall rules are fine. But it won't show the web interface on both vlans

scenic radish
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What's the objective here

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You could make the frontend accessible from the other VLAN...with firewall rules

brazen fable
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I have a completely isolated vlan that has no intervlan access or internet access. I need Hass.io to be able to use both of them.

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The VM already has two interfaces that connect to both vlans i use it for security cameras

brisk glen
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so make firewall rules?

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on the router?

scenic radish
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Exactly what I've been saying

brisk glen
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make it above the deny rule?

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you have a firewall denying vlan communication...

brazen fable
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Iโ€™ve decided to revive the topic and say that Home Assistant OS canโ€™t be configured with multiple network interfaces in mind, so those who want to use multiple interfaces such as myself must go with standard Home Assistant Core and forget about addons for good.

I would simply go with a standard Home Assistant Core as you get a lot more flexibility than running Home Assistant OS. The only problem is you have to have a hands-on experience with Linux command line, so Iโ€™d recommend going with Debian and modify /etc/network/interfaces as follows (using your favorite text editor such as vi, vim, emacs, or nano):

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Found my answer.

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What i'm trying to do isn't possible. Yikes

scenic radish
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But...firewall rules?

brazen fable
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Looks like I'll have to go the firewall route perhaps. What I really wanted was to be able to set it up on two different physical networks

scenic radish
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Both on the same router?

brazen fable
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no

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But it's not possible. so onward to next solution

dull chasm
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damn i missed the generation thing .... if you believe in working for what you have ....earning what you get ...... not having your feeling on short string ...i am good

brazen fable
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Huh

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lol

scenic radish
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"millennials bad" was the conversation earlier

brazen fable
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Oh. What's wrong with millenials

dull chasm
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well for the most part thats a true statement

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from a perspective of a older man .... like i said above if the shoe fits where it ....if you do the right things it doesnt matter what age you are

brazen fable
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Well yeah

dull chasm
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well i hire people all the time and sadly the younger generation does not want to work aka "get the job done" .... i dont want to hear its not in my job description

brisk glen
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Why do you need a trunk link to HA?

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Why @brazen fable

brazen fable
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Because I'm going to have two separate physical networks.

brisk glen
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So hold on

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Is one going to be remote?

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Please explain more

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Iโ€™m trying to figure out why you are not using the same gear for everything and just vlan it out

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For a Home

brazen fable
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Mostly because I can.

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Lmao

brisk glen
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So you have a multi home setup

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2 modems

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2 routers

forest edge
brazen fable
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One network doesn't need internet access at all. So 1 modem.

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I have like 30 routers but that's besides the point

brisk glen
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So why not just have it all on the same switch, switches and vlan it out with all networks blocked by default?

undone aspen
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Wow..

brisk glen
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If you want 2 routers.... you can route between them??!?

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If you have 2 nics

undone aspen
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that's one heck of a landslide.

brisk glen
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Hassos is not for you

forest edge
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I have like 30 routers but that's besides the point
@brazen fable like hooked up? lol

brisk glen
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And before 30 eeros

brazen fable
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Hooked up? God no lol

forest edge
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was about to ask you what Hotel you running

brazen fable
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I'm starting to remember why I dropped wemo

brisk glen
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I was about to be disappointed that you didnโ€™t use layer 3 switches

forest edge
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that or you were taking the physical apprach to @brisk glen 's vlan approach๐Ÿ˜‹

brazen fable
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Don't really need layer 3 for my house.

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And I'm still torn on which new top of rack switch I'm going to buy

brisk glen
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Unifi?

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Cisco?

brazen fable
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I was thinking about unifi yeah

brisk glen
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Their new switches are fanless

brazen fable
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I do have some unifi kit in my house. UDM Pro is my primary router right now

brisk glen
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Dam, still on that usg

brazen fable
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UDM pro since the latest firmware is pretty darn good

brisk glen
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I have been avoiding it due to all of the issues it has been having

brazen fable
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It's still got a few missing features but they'll get to it

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But the standard stuff has been rock solid

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Still can't use the sfp+ as primary wan which is a little goofy

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but until i get my multi-gig connection at home it's moot

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and if it's not ready by then i'll just switch back to the pfsense box

brisk glen
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I have a unifi SHD

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The S is not being used tho

brazen fable
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i have a single unifi HD AC for my IoT stuff

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and for my high performance/home network I use two aruba 515's

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2.4gbps link on wifi ax stuff. It's pretty neat

brisk glen
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Not going WiFi 6 till 6e is out

brazen fable
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I'll do that when i get clients that actually use it

brisk glen
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6e can be my mesh backbone for some time

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VHT 160 ๐Ÿ™‚

brazen fable
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just wire it in

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It's more than worth it

brisk glen
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Canโ€™t

rain swift
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wifi 6? what?

brazen fable
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Yeah I think I'm done with MyQ too. The API goes down/changes like once a month and it's obnoxious

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Or just loses connectivity altogether

steel urchin
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it's a user agent change, not a big deal, and honestly i had fixed it locally in seconds..

hushed basalt
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For the tech professionals here

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Do you find a lot of juniors are really bad at scalable design and root cause analysis

last dirge
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especially root cause

undone aspen
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Well, heh, I tinkered a little bit with Pop! OS, (basically Ubuntu) for about an hour. Not diggin it. ๐Ÿ˜‰

hushed basalt
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@brazen fable look at mikrotik

brazen fable
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Yeah that was option 2. They have a 10gig switch that rivals the unifi for half the cost

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and it'd be more modular so that's a plus

hushed basalt
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For simple layer 2 you won't beat it

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I wouldn't use rj45 10g if you can help it

brazen fable
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Nah I got fiber run throughout

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and i'll probably end up using the sfp+ to nbaseT modules for stuff like connections to APs

hushed basalt
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Yeah use it only when you have to

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And space the modules out

brazen fable
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yeah there'd probably only be 1 per switch TBH

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because i'm going to use cheap mikrotik switches as endpoints

undone aspen
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blinks.

scenic radish
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U guize are cra ๐Ÿ‡ฟ

undone aspen
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Ubuntu 20.04 runs docker... as a snap?

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Wow..

last dirge
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more like 3 snaps in a Z formation

undone aspen
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heh

brazen fable
hushed basalt
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Only downside is external PSU

last dirge
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my dumbass refused a FedEx package because I thought it was more hemorrhoid cream for the asian guy that gets misdelivered to me all the time

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turns out the Aliexpress order I had that said it shipped DHL actually used FedEx

scenic radish
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Might wanna hold on to that tho

brazen fable
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I can hide it behind stuff. It's NBD

hushed basalt
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Becomes a real pita in a rack

last dirge
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so I gotta deal with that

brazen fable
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I really wish they came out in a smaller form factor that gave the same power/feature set.

hushed basalt
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It's 24 ports, not sure how much smaller than 1u it could get

brazen fable
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nah i mean like a small desktop with some sfp+/lan cages

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maybe 8+2

hushed basalt
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They make the 8 port sfp+ is that what you mean?

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Plus poe in

brazen fable
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yeah but no RJ45

hushed basalt
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It has one 1G rj45

brazen fable
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need like 8 at each end point

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but it's nbd. the mikrotik will do fine there. Just loads of unused ports

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lmao

green inlet
#

@last dirge , I think I would start accepting the packages and open an eBay hemorrhoids shop...maybe Etsey.

scenic radish
#

Buttsey

green inlet
#

Lmao..... @scenic radish for the win

scenic radish
green inlet
#

We each get 1% of all sales

last dirge
#

it's some weird non-standard fedex tracking number

#

wat

#

delet dis

hushed basalt
#

Like this but sfp+ is what you're after?

green inlet
#

๐Ÿค”....but buttsey

scenic radish
#

I don't even see what telco posted

hushed basalt
#

Hmm weird

#

This basically

brazen fable
#

what's the model # on that?

hushed basalt
#

It's not sfp+

#

They will probably release a sfp+ version

#

Depends on how long you want to wait

brazen fable
#

oh

hushed basalt
#

Here you gi

brazen fable
#

Yeah that doesn't make any sense. It's twice the cost of the 24 port

#

lol

hushed basalt
#

Cut the 24 in half

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๐Ÿ”ช

scenic radish
#

Popeyes or I are gonna get banned from doordash...half the orders I've made in the last couple of months have been missing something I ordered

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Apparently a missing biscuit is worth a $6.50 credit ๐ŸŽ‰

green inlet
#

Popeyes chicken sandwich? Scale of 1-10?

scenic radish
#

Ehh, 6

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Their spicy tendies tho ๐Ÿ‘Œ

#

Nothing beats chick fil a's sammies

green inlet
#

Tendies ๐Ÿค”. Is that your word or theirs?

brisk glen
#

Lol

green inlet
#

Ok, someone was telling me Popeyes chicken sandwich was better than chik-fil-a. And I was like....errrr...no

scenic radish
#

TENDIES

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Yeah no way

brisk glen
#

I looked at Uber eats and said f it

scenic radish
#

Popeyes sandwich has crunchy breading which is nice but chick fil a is still way better

green inlet
#

It def has it uses.

brisk glen
#

Not paying $24 for a $13 pizza

green inlet
#

Unless.....yea.....I have ๐Ÿคฃ

brisk glen
#

Look at what you have become

#

It is not too late

green inlet
#

I know right

scenic radish
#

I've taken a liking to doordash

green inlet
#

Ever have one of those days when you walk around the house naked the entire day and then it is dinner time

scenic radish
#

Especially with all the credits I've been getting from the restaurants fucking up my orders

brisk glen
#

A liking of strangers with potential COVID-19 delivering your food to you?

scenic radish
#

They leave it at the door

brisk glen
#

I rather cook

scenic radish
#

I mean, I cook most of my food

brisk glen
#

Save $$ so I can buy more hone automation stuff

scenic radish
#

I doordash once a week generally

green inlet
#

In January. Before covid. My wife and I both got the flu. We doordashed dinner for 4 nights straight

brisk glen
#

Rip chicken noodle soup ๐Ÿฒ

green inlet
#

Was totally worth it

brisk glen
#

I totally have a bunch of soup cans for the ready

green inlet
#

I just noticed how much instacart has been ripping us off during covid Costco shopping though

scenic radish
#

I have a bunch of black beans and rice lol

green inlet
#

Black beans....no rice

brisk glen
#

Hurricane season ๐Ÿ˜…

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I have lots of rice because I could only find the big ass bags during the beginning of COVID

#

Obese Americans were unable to take them

scenic radish
#

Aww one of the lights on my poor hue bridge is blinking because I blocked its access to the internet ๐Ÿ˜ข

green inlet
#

Black beans and ghost pepper hot sauce ๐ŸŒฎ

brisk glen
#

Aww, you could do a dns redirect so it shuts up

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Ghost pepper? What are you? Half dead?

green inlet
#

Ha. Ghost pepper is my my ketchup

#

Carolina reaper is my hot sauce

scenic radish
#

Aww, you could do a dns redirect so it shuts up
Hmm. Good idea, didn't think of that

#

Whatever you're trying to resolve is now...one of my smart plugs

brisk glen
#

Usually they just like to ping a server

cloud mountain
#

hey gang, QQ. just did a fresh install of hass in virtualbox on ubuntu 20.04 and i cant reach localhost:8123. i made sure the network adapter is in bridge mode, and everything looks like its running

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even turned ufw off

brisk glen
#

So I make them ping HA instead

cloud mountain
#

any ideas?

velvet horizonBOT
#
The topic of this channel is:

NO HOME ASSISTANT SUPPORT HERE (look at the other channels for that). NO POLITICS OR RELIGION!

BE CIVIL to one another or get BANNED permanently.

scenic radish
#

Yeah I'm jk, I'll have it ping my server

cloud mountain
#

awww shoot

brisk glen
#

You are using vbox, there is your issue

#

lol

cloud mountain
#

lol

scenic radish
#

lol

cloud mountain
#

well, its the only way i know of to get Supervisor, im a newb

green inlet
#

So newb over to the channel topics and check them out ๐Ÿฟ

cloud mountain
#

also, ghost peppers? what is this, amature hour?

#

get that carolina reaper catsup going

scenic radish
green inlet
#

I am in.....send me your hottest

cloud mountain
#

nice

green inlet
#

I grow my own Carolina reapers

scenic radish
#

Hey do you like hot peppers @green inlet ?

green inlet
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Hotter the better

cloud mountain
#

im not a hot pepper person. like, dont get me wrong, i do like spicy

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but not to the point of punishing myself

#

ill watch some Hot Ones to satiate that need

green inlet
#

๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ. I have been eating hot stuff for as long as I can remember. I thing my Carolina reaper homemade sauce is tits up ๐Ÿ˜ณ

#

Night night kids โ˜ฎ๏ธ

cloud mountain
#

night

scenic radish
#

SPION

"Un noir amรฉricain un peu enrobรฉ s'apprรชte ร  manger une aile de poulet รฉpicรฉe. Ses potes se tiennent debout devant lui et attendent qu'il goรปte ร  cet "hot chicken wings" particuliรจrement รฉpicรฉ. ร€ la premiรจre mise en bouche, il va avoir les yeux exorbitรฉs et se mettre ร  ...

โ–ถ Play video
undone aspen
#

Alright..... This should.. be fun. Migrating HASS from the laptop to now the NUC.

clear ferry
dull belfry
#

Hey there ๐Ÿ™‚

#

I recently got access to Microsoft Azure with $100 credit. I'm wondering if it's possible to move HA into the cloud?

clever mortar
#

Possible, yes. Sane, no.

dull belfry
#

They do have things like IOT-Hub but I don't think this is useful for HA

clever mortar
#

Any integration using mDNS/broadcast/multicast won't work.
You rely on your Internet connection (and their service) for everything.
You've moved a local automation platform to the cloud.

dull belfry
#

Makes sense, thanks for the heads-up!

#

But I do want to use the store credit. I just can't think of anything useful ๐Ÿ˜›

clear ferry
#

Azure ๐Ÿคข ๐Ÿคข

fading zodiac
#

whats wrong with azure?

#

Their IOThub is usefull for companies having sensors in devices

#

A nice usecase could be a farmer with sensors in his field.

clear ferry
#

Azure is generally overpriced imo, and prone to downtime

#

Also with sensors in the field LoRA makes more sense

dull belfry
#

You only pay for what you use ;D

#

Also, you do not need to purchase any hardware upfront

clear ferry
#

On premise is still cheaper in most cases, even with power and cooling factored in @dull belfry

dull belfry
#

Really? I'm currently learning AZ-900 and i've been told that it's way more expensive ๐Ÿ˜„

clear ferry
#

That is marketing fud

dull belfry
#

And you need to manage everything, which does also cost $$

clear ferry
#

It also means more flexibility, which means a lot for most customers

dull belfry
#

You are saying that on premise is more flexible?

clear ferry
#

Yes

dull belfry
#

I disagree with that

#

Azure is elastic

clear ferry
#

You can repurpose and recable your hardware in less than an hour, to account for another piece of hardware being broken

#

And even move the hardware to a second site if needed, and no internet access required

dull belfry
#

Your telling me the opposite of what I've learned. I dunno what to believe now, thanks

clear ferry
#

I've worked in the enterprise space for 13 years, with customers in cloud, on premise and dark sites

#

Don't know what to tell you

clever mortar
#

From where I sit the answer is a bit of both. On prem gives you a very different kind of flexibility to in cloud

#

There's other things to consider too, where on prem can be much more advantageous, or cloud can be

clear ferry
#

Most of the customers I've had who moved to cloud have since moved back, except for office and maybe azuread for some

clever mortar
#

I've seen quite a few that have started moving all cloud, and ended up hybrid

clear ferry
#

Most probably will in the end

#

All cloud is.... Not ideal

clever mortar
#

No

hushed basalt
#

I'm not sure how aws kinesis compares to gcp and azures offerings

clear ferry
#

For most norwegian customers cloud has made no sense yet because of laws regarding personal data requiring data to not leave the country

hushed basalt
#

Cloud has a much smaller barrier of entry

clear ferry
#

As such before we have local DC's from the providers it isn't feasible

hushed basalt
#

Small business makes up a huge portion of the economy and no way should they have on prem

#

I guess there's a difference between companies with $100k budgets on IT and $10m+

clear ferry
#

Even dentist offices with three dentists run on prem here still

hushed basalt
#

They really should be on saas though

#

Their little win2008 tower under the receptionist desk goes down they're in the shir

clear ferry
#

Usually they have a single server, with tape backup and ups

#

And 4h response for hardware

clever mortar
#

That was SOP back when I started working in IT, which wasn't yesterday ๐Ÿ˜‰

hearty depot
#

hahaha Usually
I seen so many small buisnesses aww look at my super server with raid - nothing ever ll go wrong (1)

clear ferry
#

It still is ๐Ÿ˜‚

light phoenix
#

anyone know how long it takes to update HA
mines been trying to reconnect for 1hour rn

clear ferry
#

Roughly 1 minute for me

light phoenix
#

thats what it is stuck on for 1 hour

clever mortar
#

~which @light phoenix

velvet horizonBOT
#

@light phoenix Not sure which install you're using?

  • If you're using HassOS, flashed an image, or booted a VM with an image you're using #330990055533576204

  • If you installed Linux and then ran a script to install HA and have add-ons then you have #330944238910963714

  • If you're running docker commands or use a Docker manager and have no add-ons then you have #449717345808547842

  • Finally, if you use pip to install or upgrade you have #551864459891703809

#
The topic of this channel is:

NO HOME ASSISTANT SUPPORT HERE (look at the other channels for that). NO POLITICS OR RELIGION!

BE CIVIL to one another or get BANNED permanently.

light phoenix
#

home assistant

clever mortar
#

Then begone ๐Ÿ˜‰

light phoenix
#

ok lol

last plaza
#

@clear ferry HAPPY BIRTHDAY! ๐ŸŽ‚ ๐ŸŽ ๐Ÿฐ

clear ferry
clever mortar
#

Ah yes, congratulations on surviving another year you young fart ๐Ÿ˜›

clear ferry
#

I'm halfway to 72, or as @last dirge puts it pushing 50

last plaza
#

๐Ÿ˜Š

clear ferry
brisk glen
#

Happy counting down your years till death day @clear ferry

clear ferry
#

Atleast I have reasonable pensions and elderly care here peepoSmash

orchid rose
#

The sun is the same in a relative way but you're older. Shorter of breath and one day closer to death.

clear ferry
#

Floyd pepeLove pepeLove pepeLove

scenic radish
midnight adder
#

Hey fellow home assistant addicts ๐Ÿ‘‹ this is a amazing project! Thanks to all of you

scenic radish
#

happy to provide help and/or sarcasm anytime

midnight adder
#

sarcasm it is then ๐Ÿ™‚

#

i have done some code for trash/recycling dates and days left until date of collection currently with some bash scripts and cmd sensors, i was wondering what would be the best way to provide usage of it to others who might are interested (pretty local though switzerland canton of zurich, no universal data form for whole swiss available)

#

could it be added to a project or shall i look into a home assistant or hacs plugin to provide it to others?

#

git/python (not my 1st pref though) knowledge i have just wondering what would be the best way to do it

clever mortar
#

Custom component if you're going the HACS route, but no bash scripts and stuff there ๐Ÿ˜‰

#

Otherwise, Share my projects on the forum

midnight adder
#

sounds legit its not rocket since and a few lines of py i should be able to do, is there a channel here which would make sense to disucss things if i would have questions? i see custom-comp is archived

clever mortar
midnight adder
#

also i invested lots of time to run my whole stack in aws with a site-site vpn to a raspi running a vpn server at home, would be happy to share knowledge there aswell if anyone is interested

#

cool thanks for the help! this project really saved me in the corona boredom ๐Ÿ™‡

clever mortar
#

Run a local first automation platform in the cloud... ๐Ÿค”
...
...
Takes all sorts I suppose ๐Ÿคท
๐Ÿ˜›

midnight adder
#

hehe yeah sound stupid i know but for the sake of reliabillity/backup scalabillity etc it was just the way to go for me

#

of course all encrypted and secure, probably more that running and maintaining a customzied remote accessible infra at home - at least that were my thoughts

#
  • if you dont have a 1vendor local only sensor/actor setup you might end up collection data from cloud services anyway so why clodge your home network with that traffic
#

but yeah just my thoughts thats the great thing of the project its open do as you wish

#

(ofc in my solution the vpn is to interact with non proteced local devices - where you dont want to expose such ports to the world)

last dirge
#

@scenic radish contacted FedEx and they said "the seller has to contact us or we'll return it"

#

so I called back in to the IVR and tracked the package and selected the "hold at a location" and boom

young sigil
#

It exploded?

clear ferry
#

To smithereens you say

#

Oh my

pallid willow
#

I read up about home assistant and it was so cool i created an instance literally at 1am

hearty depot
#

urgh - Updating the Pi4 EEPROM isnt as straightforward as thourght

#

yea.. good chances that I did something wrong ๐Ÿ˜„

clear ferry
#

You always do

hearty depot
#

๐Ÿ’ฏ You have to brake it first to get it right

scenic radish
#

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEprom

clear ferry
last plaza
#

That looks really cool and super easy to make your own battery pack!

#

Like the fact that balance charging is built into the pcb.

orchid rose
#

We just ordered a electric bike conversion kit for my dad from Ali. Unfortunately they have some issues with the stock ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

scenic radish
#

Jack links peppered beef jerky is so good

clear ferry
#

Yes it is

unreal orbit
#

(sponsored comment)

clear ferry
#

But the Walmart one is very good too

#

I discovered on Georgia

unreal orbit
#

Yes! Walmart โ„ข๏ธ is the best!

scenic radish
#

Jack Links โ„ข๏ธ Peppered ยฎ๏ธ Jeef Berky is so good!

unreal orbit
#

I for one welcome our corporate overlords

shy comet
#

mmm beef jerky

#

need to make some more

scenic radish
#

My lunch today consisted of beef jerky and a leftover Popeyes โ„ข๏ธ tendie and small amount of fries

unreal orbit
#

leftover fries and tendies are possibly the worst leftover foods

scenic radish
#

Not when you reheat them in the toaster oven

#

Pretty close to fresh

unreal orbit
#

Even then you gotta slightly burn em

scenic radish
#

I've had good luck with no burning ๐Ÿ˜„

#

Though, I wouldn't complain because I like burnt food lol

clear ferry
scenic radish
#

I mean, not scorched

#

Not pure carbon

#

But I'll take a little extra maillard anytime

#

Also @clear ferry you like raw ground beef and bacon so get outta here

clear ferry
#

Bone apple teeth

#

Off to buy some birthday sushi

scenic radish
#

Happy ๐Ÿ…ฑ๏ธ irthday ๐Ÿ…ฑ๏ธ oi

clear ferry
unreal orbit
#

Happy birthday ๐Ÿฅณ

clear ferry
scenic radish
#

๐Ÿ…ฑ๏ธ appy ๐Ÿ…ฑ๏ธ irthday

#

You were saying @last plaza ?

tidal bronze
#

Happy birthday!

scenic radish
#

This pen is r...r...rooooooyallll blueeeeeee!

last plaza
#

@scenic radish I lost my train of thought with al the emojis

scenic radish
last plaza
#

๐Ÿคฃ

clear ferry
tidal bronze
#

@shy comet when are we going to get a taste test?

shy comet
#

lol

#

depends on when the world isnt on fire ๐Ÿ˜›

#

until then i can share the recipe ๐Ÿ˜‚

clear ferry
#

So after the civil war of November 2020 then

last plaza
#

Just ordered 10 of those 4ft led 5000 kelvin lights for my garage... Iโ€™m all set to work from home ๐Ÿ˜Š

clear ferry
#

Just saw Google gave all employees $1000 to refurbish their home office

#

Nagged my managers for the same

last plaza
#

Nice!!!

#

I can probably get tax break for the new led lights.

clear ferry
#

Muuuuurica

#

Strange tax stuff

unreal orbit
#

Like most things in this country, our tax code is dictated by private companies

#

namely Intuit

last plaza
#

I saw a documentary on Norway yesterday that they are building tunnel across the country and spending 47BN! Crazy!!!

clear ferry
#

Think it is done already

#

It's just on the west coast

last plaza
#

2025 is what they say. Part of it may be done already.

clear ferry
#

To remove ferries

last plaza
#

Yup. Something like 39 highway or something.

rain swift
#

@last plaza can you link to those LEDs?

last plaza
#

Those mountains and landscape is surreal!

#

@rain swift what leds? Led matrix?

velvet horizonBOT
last plaza
shy comet
#

hmm 12cm long?

#

is that thing readable at a distance?

clear ferry
last plaza
#

You need to daisy chain at least 2 of them, and yes, you can see it from 50ft distance. They are pretty bright!

#

I run them at the lowest brightness (at 1). Only use high brightness for custom messages - that is at 10. It will get your attention for sure!

rain swift
#

Just ordered 10 of those 4ft led 5000 kelvin lights for my garage... Iโ€™m all set to work from home ๐Ÿ˜Š
@last plaza

this

shy comet
#

hmm now to think about how to make it waterproof...wife wants a way to see notifications outside along with BBQ and pool when we are on the patio

pine mural
#

Hi all

long time lurker of home assistant on reddit and how now finally joined ๐Ÿ˜„

shy comet
#

welcome!

last plaza
#

@rain swift ah! Those are on Samsclub.

#

I got a 3 car garage, going to install them in there. Right now the bulbs I have doesnโ€™t really throw enough light

#

hmm now to think about how to make it waterproof...wife wants a way to see notifications outside along with BBQ and pool when we are on the patio
@shy comet print some 3D case around it

clear ferry
#

Hanging down, like I have the roof height for that

last plaza
#

Our garage ceiling height is about 14ft. Hanging would be no problem.

clear ferry
#

We have 2.4m standard height inside houses

#

.m2f 2.4

#

7.9 feet

unreal orbit
#

What is that in freedom fractions?

clear ferry
#

4/38

#

Or five big macs

unreal orbit
#

boom roasted

clear ferry
#

Ooooof

clever mortar
#

Hope all the people were ok

unreal orbit
#

No injuries reported yet

orchid rose
#

Where's Elon Musk ๐Ÿค”

pearl gate
#

hey anyone that can help with a hassio account issue?

shy comet
#

@pearl gate if you mean your hassio account for the HA cloud then see #cloud-archived if you are talking about logging into the HA interface then you most likely want to ask in #330990055533576204

pearl gate
#

Hi thanks i've asked on cloud.

scenic radish
#

If it's related to nabu casa then that's the best spot to ask

clear ferry
clever mortar
#

eMMC. Intel NIC. USB-C. Looking nice

#

Oooh... _full-size mini-PCIe _

#

(full size mini, heh)

orchid rose
#

damn, that is tightly packed

shy comet
#

@clear ferry that pic lol, damn

clear ferry
steel urchin
#

@forest edge did you update the firmware? I haven't had a chance to look into it yet

forest edge
#

@steel urchin no i don't use the app at all

torn sinew
#

Guys, I have a pi3b running hassio, and tbh its just fine, though a bit slow when restarting due to config changes etc.
I have a Pi4 that I am considering upgrading to, but my Aotec zwave controller is not working on the pi4.

So my idea was to use my pi3 with zwave2mqtt, and use my pi4 as my main controller for hassio.

Is that bad practice, pro's cons anyone?

velvet horizonBOT
#
The topic of this channel is:

NO HOME ASSISTANT SUPPORT HERE (look at the other channels for that). NO POLITICS OR RELIGION!

BE CIVIL to one another or get BANNED permanently.

torn sinew
#

oh sorry wrong channel

static schooner
#

but you just need a USB hub to use your dongle on pi4

fathom sparrow
#

no cons really. Pro's are that you can restart your pi4 faster

#

I guess a con is '2 systems'

#

but whatever

forest edge
#

Amazon warehouse burns to the ground in Redlands, California. (June 5th, 2020)
@clear ferry well so much for @tidal bronze 's projects lol

tidal bronze
#

Yikes all 3100 cameras ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

ripe radish
#

Is there a docker channel?

#

I thought there used to be one

scenic radish
#

But if you post there and reveal you have an installation with add-ons I'll hit you with a ๐Ÿก

unreal orbit
#

Flounder is my weapon of choice, personally

forest edge
#

๐Ÿก is @scenic radish favorite

ripe radish
#

No ones there ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

green inlet
#

I was there, I just left because they have fish in the lounge.

scenic radish
#

๐Ÿค

#

@green inlet it's not spicy though, sorry

green inlet
#

๐Ÿ˜

scenic radish
#

I heard you might like hot peppers

tidal bronze
#

@steel urchin hope you made a killing today ๐Ÿ™‚ What a ride

green inlet
#

I think we all made a killing didnโ€™t we?

steel urchin
#

I actually haven't traded in a week, been up to other junk

#

If that's what you're meaning... What'd I miss?

tidal bronze
#

Oh boy. Today was one of those.... min 30% gains

#

You missed everything ๐Ÿ™‚

ripe radish
#

The market went bonkers

#

Of course I havenโ€™t made a trade all year so Iโ€™m about back where I started.

green inlet
#

@scenic radish , you need to start slapping people with ๐ŸŒฎ and ๐ŸŒ

tidal bronze
#

It started going bonkers before the bell @ripe radish ๐Ÿ˜†

ripe radish
#

Yeah. But I made out well

#

I use a rob o advisor

tidal bronze
#

Nice. Same here. What a way to end the week

ripe radish
#

Watch Trump try and take credit

green inlet
#

You better hope Tinkerer is sleeping. ๐Ÿคฃ

ripe radish
#

He a fan?

green inlet
#

And Tediore is out of fish

velvet horizonBOT
#
The topic of this channel is:

@ripe radish NO HOME ASSISTANT SUPPORT HERE (look at the other channels for that). NO POLITICS OR RELIGION!

BE CIVIL to one another or get BANNED permanently.

tidal bronze
#

@steel urchin United was too good today. Did you get in when it tanked ?

steel urchin
#

Nope, I didn't

forest edge
#

Trade Chat. 3 beans for the family cow

tidal bronze
#

LMAO

forest edge
unreal orbit
#

"accident"

scenic radish
#

Lmao

#

fuck

#

Someone immediately asked what the channel is for, that was nuts

#

Like...one second after

green inlet
#

I thought only Skalavala could create channels. I saw it and was like huh

scenic radish
#

I'm guessing all mods/admins can

#

Except maybe me after that stunt

green inlet
#

Abuse of power ๐Ÿคฃ

scenic radish
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My favorite radio station's morning show hosts do something called "F the Format" on Friday mornings...maybe we should do that here on Friday nights

forest edge
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Except maybe me after that stunt
@scenic radish ding ding ding

scenic radish
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One new wAcKy RaNdOm channel each week for a few hours

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Then, beleted

green inlet
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I say every Friday night, we delete all the homeassistant channels and rename them to something easier for people to understand.....wait.....

scenic radish
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banned

green inlet
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I can always say at least I didnโ€™t create a bartering channel

forest edge
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bring back #hassio and make the topic say, one channel to rule them all. just annoy some people lol

scenic radish
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I want #hassio-in-docker back

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That was a good time

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Ha! You've been bamboozled!

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That might have been before your time sonoma

forest edge
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I don't remember such channel

scenic radish
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It was a honeypot channel explaining that "Hassio in Docker" isn't a thing

undone aspen
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But, it was a thing./ ๐Ÿ™‚

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๐Ÿ˜‡

scenic radish
forest edge
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wonder what the protests will tear up this weekend lol

shy comet
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they seem to have slowed down out here

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in terms of chaos that is

forest edge
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you in cali?

shy comet
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yup

forest edge
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from the news aspect you would think California had the worst of it

shy comet
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saturday was nuts

forest edge
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I don't know if other places just are not recording whats going on, not in the right place or if the people aren't as bold as Californians lol

shy comet
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lol from what i saw a lot of it was you had to be recording at the time it happened cuz its like 2-3 seconds of craziness

forest edge
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yea last video i saw was the police trapping looters inside a boarded up buisness then the looters busting through the playwood and escaping while the police watched

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bet that buisness owner was pissed to watch that lol

shy comet
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wow didnt hear about that one lol

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i remember seeing ATMS being stolen

forest edge
shy comet
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watching crowds of like 30 people trying to break into a store for 5 minutes

green inlet
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They just showed a business owner on the news that had cameras inside his business. He was telling how hard it was to sit and watch looters empty his business and not being able to do anything

shy comet
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oh yes i was watching that one live

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urban outfitters

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that chick standing in front of the looters too was crazy

green inlet
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I think this was in Charlotte. Prob examples all over the country.

shy comet
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we were watching Fox when the Van Nuys thing happened where the looters were begging to break into a store

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and when the cops showed up they arrested the owner like wtf

forest edge
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lmao

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I made the comment on my city subreddit about how the califronia news anchors were saying it was all minorities looting the places they were filming and got banned for it lol

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people are going nuts all over

undone aspen
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What... The heck. Officers just standing by watching people leaving the scene of a crime?

forest edge
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yup

green inlet
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Peaceful protest is good....it brings about change. The problem is, like anything good, some knuckleheads have to ruin in. Instigators and people with a different agenda ruin would could be a good thing

undone aspen
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And that's in Florida? What the heck am I doing in this pathetic state?

forest edge
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if i owned that place I would be sueing the police force lol

undone aspen
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Exactly!

forest edge
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florida? no

shy comet
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that was in long beach california

undone aspen
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ohhh! Long Beach CA, not FL. ๐Ÿ™‚

shy comet
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haha

green inlet
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Step up and take the front line. They are damned if they do and damned if they donโ€™t

undone aspen
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Heh. Well, there IS a Long Beach FL!

shy comet
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the one of hte cop hitting the person at Pershing Square and then driving away was crazy too

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lots of videos of cops doing bad things and barely being punished

forest edge
shy comet
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people are showing their true colors

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and to think were not even 1/2 way through this year lol

forest edge
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pandemic stirred the pot lol

undone aspen
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Well, hmmmm....

green inlet
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I love that the buffalo response team all resigned when they suspended those officers

shy comet
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they were supposed to do livepd tonight but its apparently been a topic in a few places so they decided not to have it

tidal bronze
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Interesting times

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@shy comet what's happening in LA?

shy comet
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havent seen much asides from protesting today but havnet been paying attention much today lol

forest edge
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you know those 80's movies like robocop where it shows mass chaos in the streets with rioters tearing everything up and crack head looking gangs forming? they have predicted the future!

green inlet
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The news just did nothing but piss me off. ๐Ÿคฃ. Havenโ€™t watched it in months.....guess I will check in again sometime in October

tidal bronze
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Gotta help a few friends with damaged stores tomorrow.

shy comet
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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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damn i hate that

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i was kinda glued to tv saturady night cuz of how crazy it was all day

forest edge
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oh no, your putting yourself in harms way!

tidal bronze
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No, after we are all going to join the walk, after cleaning up.

ocean mirage
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ooh are we getting political again wee

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defund the police

forest edge
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defund the police
@ocean mirage ban him! politics!

green inlet
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Lmao....

ocean mirage
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it wasnt me

green inlet
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I wish just one city would get the blue flu and see if anyone changes their mind

tidal bronze
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@shy comet for some its a payday from insurance claims ๐Ÿ˜œ

shy comet
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haha

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hoepfully they all had insurance shit

forest edge
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we should start seeing some data start coming in on if the covid has spread like wildfire amongst these protestors by now

shy comet
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yea this coming week i think

forest edge
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lol mass chaos then one day.. nothing.. everyone home sick lol

tidal bronze
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@shy comet LA defund 150 or 250 mil?

shy comet
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im not sure i saw both numbers get mentioned

tidal bronze
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Good for low income after-school programs, they can restart

undone aspen
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Alright! The 9 O'Clock bell is 10 minutes away. It is Friday. Time to bring out the scotch. Muahahahahaha

tidal bronze
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@undone aspen what kind ?

undone aspen
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Glenlivet 14 year Cognac cask.

tidal bronze
undone aspen
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Hehe. Indeed. I do tend to like the fruity scotches, and prefer single malt to blended, or speyside.

tidal bronze
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Been trying to find yamasaki for sometime now. On the blended side I like green and double black.

undone aspen
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Oh the Japanese one?

tidal bronze
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Yes, that's on top of my list always.

undone aspen
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That ain't Scotch, though. That's Whiskey. ๐Ÿ™‚

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hehe

tidal bronze
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On single malt.

undone aspen
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indeed. Damn good one too. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Actually found Yamasaki in the local ABC here.

tidal bronze
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Yep. What are your thoughts on Balvenie ?

undone aspen
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Well, it's Speyside. Probably a bit harsh because of that. Never had it specifically though, that I recall.

tidal bronze
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Double wood is awesome ๐Ÿ˜€

undone aspen
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Ardbeg, Macallan, Glenlivet, Glenfiddich, Lagavulin, Kilchoman, Chivas Regal (about the only blended I like), and Glen Morey (Speyside)

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Those are my specific picks I usually look for. ๐Ÿ™‚

tidal bronze
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Chivas is a door stopper for me. Lol. Glen Morey ๐Ÿ‘

undone aspen
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Yeah, it's not bad in a social gathering.

tidal bronze
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How is Ardbeg?

undone aspen
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Ardbeg is not bad for a Islay one, and a much younger one.

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That's if you like the smokey flavored ones, definitely good.

tidal bronze
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So is it love or hate on blue ?๐Ÿคฃ

undone aspen
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heh

tidal bronze
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The most polarizing drink I know.

undone aspen
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Meh. My least favorite is Johnnie Walker.

tidal bronze
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Best distillery experience so far ๐Ÿ˜€

undone aspen
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They have to have a good distillery, because they blend so much crap into their bottles. ๐Ÿ˜„

tidal bronze
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Lol

green inlet
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I am sampling a 1/2 angry orchard 1/2 blackberry white claw from 2020. Very smooth

undone aspen
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Interesting. original angry orchard?

green inlet
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Yes sir

tidal bronze
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White claw ๐Ÿ˜€

undone aspen
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hehe.

tidal bronze
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50/50 too

green inlet
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Angry orchard is too sweet. The blackberry white claw cuts it and adds some fizz ๐Ÿคฃ

undone aspen
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Angry Orchard is definitely good. I don't ever drink beer. Nasty stuff. Ciders are a fair comrpomise from non-spirits serving establishments to have decent tasting low-strength alcoholic beverages.

tidal bronze
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No beer on this side as well unless world is coming to an end.

undone aspen
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well........ ๐Ÿ‘€

green inlet
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Michelob ultra ๐Ÿคฃ

undone aspen
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There is a Pandemic...

tidal bronze
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Michelin ultra ๐Ÿคฃ
@green inlet what type of tread ?

green inlet
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Damn auto correct

tidal bronze
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Guess you won't fishtail ๐Ÿ˜‚

green inlet
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And you copied it before I changed it

undone aspen
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heh

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nice one!

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It's funny. Looking suddenly at one of my dogs randomly sleeping/sitting/laying within my proximity, and they stare back at me, like I'm the most interesting thing in the entire world and it is exciting to be looked at.

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heh, and the other thing I'm trying to figure out. What's the safest way to cut a ~20' angle wedge, from a 2x4, and then cut away the rest of the wood leaving just the wedge itself.

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... on a table saw.

tidal bronze
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Best if you try to figure out things like that when you are sober ๐Ÿ˜œ

undone aspen
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Oh, not turning that thing on tonight. LOL

dull chasm
gentle ferry
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how are you guys running hass? are most of you using rpis?

undone aspen
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I tried the RPi3, then RPi4B, nope. Too slow.

gentle ferry
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nope for the rpi4?

undone aspen
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it's okay for getting started,.

dull chasm
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@tidal bronze you with me or against?

gentle ferry
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hmm

green inlet
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Good ole red blooded American Budweiser. Canโ€™t go wrong.

gentle ferry
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@undone aspen what kind of heavy processing does hass use for a rpi4 to not be good enough?

undone aspen
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Addons, cameras, integrations, automations.

green inlet
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@gentle ferry , I ran a rpi3 for years till I added streams. It is a great platform to start on. Especially with the latest version and the upcoming native openzwave daemon.

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The only thing that is faster on my NUC over the RPI is startup time and upgrades. My mesh network is almost identical to the RPI.

gentle ferry
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hmm, because i'm going to add cameras first then the sensors/switches/etc...

green inlet
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How many cameras?

undone aspen
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Eh, 4, actually.

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LOL

gentle ferry
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yeah, 4 at least I believe lol

green inlet
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I backup my NUC to a rpi3. I have three cameras. The RPI3 can handle it but it struggles and lags. If you want live cameras, I would look for something outside a SBC

undone aspen
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Or use multiple SBC's for limited cameras, and remote storage for them.

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I ended up adopting Ring Stick-Up cams to replace my Wyze Cams., ๐Ÿ™‚

gentle ferry
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@green inlet the idea is to run an nvr (motioneye maybe) on my "home server" (an old core2 duo laptop) and hass be on a rpi talking to the nvr

tidal bronze
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@dull chasm always with.

gentle ferry
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i don't even know if that will work, these are just thoughts so far

green inlet
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But it will.

gentle ferry
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in this case, hass won't be doing heavy processing I believe

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right?

green inlet
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Live streams still go to the HAss frontend

gentle ferry
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you mean on demand live streams?

green inlet
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Yes sir.

gentle ferry
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why not view live streams on motioneye directly? why does it have to be hass? i think i'm missing something

undone aspen
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I don't use hass for streaming live.

green inlet
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๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ. I view live streams direct to HAss. Like I said, for details, ask in #cameras-archived

undone aspen
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motionEye just runs on the same host running hass.

gentle ferry
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motionEye just runs on the same host running hass.
@undone aspen makes sense in this case

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how hard is it to start with hass? i never used it before ๐Ÿ™‚

green inlet
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Start by reading as much as you can. There are plenty of people that will help but they want to see effort on your end. As an example, before HAss, I could barely spell Linux. Now I have a pretty advanced home automation system and can even help people out here and there. But read read read

undone aspen
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There's an Add-on for HomeAssistant Full or Supervised.

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for MotionEye

gentle ferry
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@green inlet cool, i'm well versed in linux. Logic is all based on YAML I believe, right?

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i mean written in yaml

green inlet
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Yes....if you want granular control, look at the alternate installs. Virtual environments and docker. If you want point and click, the supervisor and add-on installs. But again, go out, read the docs, and come with intelligent questions. Donโ€™t expect people to do it for you

static schooner
green inlet
gentle ferry
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Yes....if you want granular control, look at the alternate installs. Virtual environments and docker. If you want point and click, the supervisor and add-on installs. But again, go out, read the docs, and come with intelligent questions. Donโ€™t expect people to do it for you
@green inlet of course

static schooner
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and...

velvet horizonBOT
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The topic of this channel is:

NO HOME ASSISTANT SUPPORT HERE (look at the other channels for that). NO POLITICS OR RELIGION!

BE CIVIL to one another or get BANNED permanently.

gentle ferry
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honestly, i don't have a lot of idea for now, except maybe trigger something based on motion. I have some hw that came with the place, but i still need a lot ๐Ÿ™‚

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@static schooner yes I saw that

green inlet
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Start slow, and build. Home assistant is awesome

gentle ferry
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yep

green inlet
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I started with one zwave switch. Now I have fans, switches, thermostats, vacuum, leak sensors, garage, cameras......the list goes on. Probably a little obsessive but most guys on this discord still blow my install out of the water

gentle ferry
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that is awesome

undone aspen
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Hehe.

gentle ferry
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my house came with hw that depend on 3rd parties which i don't really like

undone aspen
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I have not just one but now apparently two GoControl Z-Sticks coming my way.

gentle ferry
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nice

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all your stuff is zwave? no zigbee?

undone aspen
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Yeah my house I set up with Lutron Caseta Light switches and dimmers. I control those with a Lutron Caseta Pro hub specifically.

last plaza
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@green inlet Zwave ๐Ÿคข

undone aspen
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I mostly use zwave. The GoControl stick does both zwave and Zigbee

gentle ferry
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every thing I have needs its own app lol, some do have hass integrations, but it's all online, not local which i don't appreciate

undone aspen
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But i prefer zwave

green inlet
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Skalavala, I need to take video of my mesh. It is practically instanteous

undone aspen
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I am moving the route of cloud based integration to use mqtt

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My ring stuff is already mqtt and homebridge

gentle ferry
last plaza
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I know! Mesh networking is the only plus side of z-wave. Zigbee also has the mesh networking that I prefer.

unreal orbit
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2.4ghz ๐Ÿคข

undone aspen
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Yes potatoes

gentle ferry
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@undone aspen oh, i have a ring doorbell, i didn't know it was possible to not rely on their servers