I can accept crap batteries for free. 🙂
#the-water-cooler
undone aspen
tidal bronze
I have vmotion but want to reuse the 1TB nvme boot drive from the old one.
If not its a snap.
clear ferry
Then just install the second one fresh, vmotion over, and then reuse it as you see fit
For boot I would never have anything else than usb or at most a pair of 15k drives
tidal bronze
Copy. Used nvme on my nucs for years. Want to keep it that way. 😀 so clean install and move over 👍 Thanks.
clever mortar
Doesn't everybody reboot their server daily?
undone aspen
Whaaat? No!
clever mortar
That's what I get from reading the posts here 😛
undone aspen
I reboot my PiZeroW's daily. LOL
clever mortar
I made a change to HA so I rebooted
undone aspen
Or my PoW's!
light trout
I thought about making a change, so I pulled the power plug and put it inn again
undone aspen
heh
clear ferry
Even then, esxi just loads 300MB into memory, then it stays there 
undone aspen
Well, hmmm. Now I need my girlfriend to come and hold up this motion sensor on the wall while I walk around and test it. LOL
clear ferry
You can easily replace her with double sided tape
undone aspen
But, I want to find the proper.... position.... placement.... For best.... Observation. 🙂
Hmmm, and I don't think Fun-Tak would do it. Kinda heavy, and has 3 AA alkalines for even more weight to them.
clear ferry
3AA for a motion sensor? Wow that sounds like something from the 80s
undone aspen
heh
Right?!?
It's a 4-in-1 supposedly, but I only care about the 1. Motion.
And, hmmm, SmartThings isn't getting updates from it immediately. Which is unusual.
Sweet,. Yep. Freeeeeee batteries.
Still, don't expect much from Chinese made AmazonBasics... But still.
Nice to know when they f'up so badly that they fix it, on their dime.
Even still. My choices of preferred batteries for home automation are: AA and CR123A
late gate
why not 18650 batteries?
undone aspen
I've yet to see any device use those, for home automation.
But... Why not those? They're effin HUGE!
But, I have chargers for them so....
late gate
they sell esp boards now with 18650 on the back. very handy for various projects
undone aspen
Well, there is that, but, WiFi, ewwww.
WiFi on battery, is just.. No thanks.
Backup? Sure. Primary? No.
late gate
you dont have to use wifi with an esp board though
undone aspen
Hmmm, true, There's BLE on ESP32.
late gate
if its some kind of automation thing locally
undone aspen
Nah. Z-Wave. No Zigbee thanks. 😄
undone aspen
Alrighty, so far so good on the Tenavolts batteries reporting 1.5Vdc as expected. Heck actually a little higher than.
fallow spire
Did some troubleshooting today. Turns out I’m using my an old A1 class card for my hass install. Not sure if that’s causing the disconnect issues between Alexa and bulbs, or perhaps the disconnect between wall switches too. Time to do some cloning tomorrow to a spare A2!
Looks like alexas inability to find the zigbee stuff goes away when I have a hass instance open on a computer somewhere?
undone aspen
Umm, hmmmm.. Odd...
Amazon.. Had an issue.... Delivering.... A ring camera. So, they cancelled the shipping and will refund me.. But. it was.. Their own.. shipping company, what the actual frack? LOL
Oh. I see what they're trying to do. Only refund me half of what I actually paid? 🤬
fallow spire
Yeah I don’t know your locale but in the UK they’re all self employed guys who get paid per delivery and at the moment they seem to be delivering an insane amount of packages a day. I’ve had quite a few arrive on a completely different day and time to what’s quoted haha
undone aspen
heh
Florida. 🙂
They have Mercedes delivery trucks around here. heh
But, it never even got origin tracked.
Ohhhhhhhhh. NOW I see what nonsense they're doing.
They're deducting the "free" Echo Dot for $27.19 I got with the order, from the price I paid for from the Ring camera itself, and are trying to refund me only $57.80, instead, which is absolute bullcrap.
pale eagle
he folks, can someone help me out, im running version 0.106.5 and finally implemented my first rest api switch, somehow it tries to install the cloud components and it fails, with the result that my whole home-assistant doesn't start anymore:
May 25 00:19:40 ai hass[1038]: 2020-05-25 00:19:40 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.setup] Unable to set up dependencies of safe_mode. Setup failed for dependencies: cloud
May 25 00:19:40 ai hass[1038]: 2020-05-25 00:19:40 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.setup] Setup failed for safe_mode: Could not set up all dependencies.
fathom sparrow
@pale eagle #integrations-archived
pale eagle
but nice to write with you again, hard to get a time frame with 2 kids 😄
junior forge
undone aspen
Heh. Once again, to the Amazon support, and they did tell me, (first), that they were going to refund me only $61.84, for the "portion" of the Ring+Echo Dot kit. I was like Umm, NO! I don't take kindly to fraud.
junior forge
(sorry for the totally random emoji not related to the conversations ongoing)
undone aspen
Heh
I'm just yelling about Amazon's odd frackups. 🙂
My new camera however, delayed a week. :/
Didn't even bother to do it Prime, to fix their mistake.
hushed basalt
Those tenavolt batteries look interesting
undone aspen
I know, right?!?
hushed basalt
I wouldn't use them in anything that doesn't need 1.5v though
Since they're smaller capacity
undone aspen
My door lock is at 30% battery now, and still working, so I'm anxious to switch them out for the Tenavolts.
hushed basalt
Are they nimh in your door lock?
hushed basalt
If you need the 1.5v they'll be great
No that's before
According to their picture
undone aspen
Someone broke into these things and looked at the battery inside.
hushed basalt
"2775mwH lithium core"
undone aspen
Ahhh yeah. 750mAh, 2.78Wh.
heh, actual battery inside is a 13430 3.7V lithium core, so hmmmm...
undone aspen
Either way, I got these for my door lock primarily. And so, we'll see how they perform. I'm thinking the Echo Clock I'm getting tomorrow should work just fine with NiMH, as reported by many people so far. It doesn't need the 1.5V * 4. heh
I considered getting 4+4 more without the charger, but decided on caution just in case. 🙂
hushed basalt
Most things should be fine with NiMH even if the battery discharge shows low because manufacturers are too dumb to have better discharge profiles in their circuitry
undone aspen
Oh, I know.
My door locks are likely fine, just they eat through NiMH quickly.
And it's annoying as hell to replace them with the way they designed their battery access.
Kwikset Convert, that is.
Three, tiny, screws, take off the whole cover, pull out the battery pack, replace batteries, put back together.
hushed basalt
You could bury a rechargeable 5v cell in your door hehe
hushed basalt
And just plug in a phone charger every 6 months
undone aspen
There IS enough space.....
In the part they made able to be opened without unscrewing anything (if you unscrewed it before), but they didn't bother to make the BATTERY compartment accessible that way, morons.
I lost a little respect for Kwikset for that.
That, and their loud as hell motor. 🙂
My dogs.. They LOVE that motor. To bark furiously at that motor to get it!
hushed basalt
One of these and a flat lithium pack
Route a recess in the door
Underneath the lock
Rig it up to the kwikset
undone aspen
Possibly,. but could literally bundle it all within the lock and provide a litte access to the charger through the access panel that can be unrestricted (give access to buttons/switches).
steep moon
Hi All! I'm having an issue with binary_sensor.updater - It does not refresh, even if I call service homeassistant.update_entity - Any ideas on how to force it to check if there's a new version?
undone aspen
See topic.
@hushed basalt Do you happen to know the module part no for that?
O3962A?
hushed basalt
No idea i just randomly googled lithium 5v
undone aspen
I read the part number off the picture it is an O3962A. 🙂
hushed basalt
There's a trillion different types on ali
You might want one with an adjustable DC out
Take it to 6v to match 1.5v x 4
undone aspen
Ahhh, indeed, true.
hushed basalt
You could test if 5v works though
That's 1.25v x 4 which is still a partially charged alkaline
A bit low
undone aspen
Maybe, some day. 🙂
tidal bronze
undone aspen
I'd probably want to see if I could get that out of LiP, so it can be charged and used at the same time. 🙂
LiPo has 3.7v per cell, so definitely possible.
Ugh,. What was even worse about the AmazonBasics NiMH order,... besides being not what I ordered. Pre-Charged - Pack of 16, and not a dang one of them was actually pre-charged as claimed either. .
loud tide
Is there a really high-level overview that describes the relationships between Entities / Services / etc?
undone aspen
See topic.
green inlet
Holy crap Quad....I was going to make some stupid joke about you finding the video of my home but that place is sick
undone aspen
With all the palm trees, is that Florida? LOL
forest edge
If the garage doesn't have the ability to rotate your car so your always driving forward then it's a ripoff
hushed basalt
Is it bad that I have amazon prime but will still download those shows
Because amazon prime app is fucking garbage
undone aspen
Their apps are garbage, indeed.
hushed basalt
Amazon are great service providers but they can't design an app to save their life
Or live stream a summit
hushed basalt
It's too much for me
undone aspen
Well, sheash.. EBL is crap, even their 9V batteries that're Lithium-Ion based.
undone aspen
Hmmmm... Well, maybe not. They seem to be the better of the 9V batteries. LOL
green inlet
@hushed basalt , I was thinking the same but, with that kind of coinage you can afford people to handle the burden.
hushed basalt
It's more the gross display of wealth haha
tidal bronze
@green inlet can't hide from me 😉
green inlet
I was just thinking how nice my 2003 dodge dirty-rango with 240k miles would look spinning in the garage
I wish...
undone aspen
And there we go. Battery cases gallore that don't suck. 🙂
hushed basalt
Urgh what's going on with HDD pricing
4TBs are more expensive now than they were 4 years ago
scenic radish
@steel urchin were you looking for other people's HVAC stats to compare to your own?
Prob have 1 or 2 more cycles with 0.5 more hours of runtime
green inlet
🤣
green inlet
Time to look at history stats I guess. Are each one of those a sensor?
scenic radish
Yeah
scenic radish
Yeah ecobee's reporting is shite so I made my own
I don't even use the cloud integration, just homekit controller
green inlet
I guess the device needs an attribute to match? Or you using templates. Like for cycles
scenic radish
forest edge
Also... COVID boi
@scenic radish that's a myth, just listen to the people protesting about wanting to get hair cuts again
steel urchin
Yeah just for fun @scenic radish
green inlet
I never want to get a haircut again.
scenic radish
Just for funsies @steel urchin ?
ocean mirage
nice
hushed basalt
I think those last 2 are people who have been infected from travellers in quarantine too
So no community transmission for quite some time
ocean mirage
Yeah we have been doing well here but we are weird
I think SA and NT are going well too
hushed basalt
Should become the great western region sovereign state
Everyone knows the east is just full of freeloading capitalist paperpushers who provide no true value ;)
hushed basalt
Just need to get the military on our side
ocean mirage
ew
hushed basalt
Does organising a coup count as discussing politics
I feel like it's above politics
ocean mirage
hushed basalt
Let's become a colony of Norway
ocean mirage
Better than here but not ideal
hushed basalt
Between our warm weather and their socialist policies ...and fossil fuel resources... we'll become the most powerful force in the world
green inlet
You will always be sour grapes over the great ole U-S of A @hushed basalt
scenic radish
Ffs I've killed myself more times with this particular Tediore gun than I have any other
hushed basalt
Cheap refurbished rackmount servers would be nice
Although I think atx has us all beat there. With free power to boot
loud tide
Down to 2 active cases in WA
@hushed basalt the most recently reported stats is that there were 239 NEW cases today in WA. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=how many active covid cases WA or does WA mean something else?
you got my hopes up, I've been trying not to look
thick dragon
In this instance WA = Western Australia, not Washington.
It's up to 3 new cases today, but still good.
hushed basalt
Things aren't American by default ;)
Man expanded beam fibre connectors are pricey
A cable with termination costs like $500USD each end
forest edge
Things aren't American by default ;)
@hushed basalt keep telling yourself that 😋
fading zodiac
Morning
scenic radish
Night
clear ferry
thick dragon
I have entirely too many time-consuming hobbies. Someone needs to invent more hours in the day.
sour escarp
clear ferry
More hours? I would like a second day in every day
Thankfully I can do a lot of my hobbies at work and while working though
light trout
30h days would be nice
clear ferry
Before I had kids I used to go to bed at 2-3am, and get up at 9-10am, now I go to bed at 11pm and up at 6am
thick dragon
I like the idea of a 4-day work week. I think that'll be my "pre-retirement" goal. An extra weekend day a week should leave 1 day for chores, 2 days for hobbies/relaxing.
clever mortar
clear ferry
I have no more time than I did with 6 day work weeks tbh
thick dragon
Why's that?
clear ferry
Kid
thick dragon
Ohh, haha. Yeah, no plans for that for me. Likely gonna get ✂️ in the next year or so. At most, I'd adopt.
clear ferry
I'm snipped from nature, so I had to use 💉 on my ⚾ 🥎 , interesting but not for the faint of heart 
thick dragon
Yikes! Does sound intense. Well very happy for you to still be able to have kids then 🙂
clear ferry
Took some time 
quartz ether
Lots of BE / NL people here right? Anyone got a source for me to watch Lego Masters 🙂
clear ferry
You don't get it down under?
quartz ether
We get the AU one here, which was the original of the new series idea (already finished season 2). The US one was pretty cringe due to the host but really want to see the other ones, BE, BE/NL and SE
thick dragon
The internet is a wide and wonderous place. Sure it wouldn't be particularly difficult to find it.
If it's available on any NL streaming services, a simple VPN should do the trick.
quartz ether
It is actually made in the same studio lol (same room even haha)
clear ferry
I used to have a us VPN connected in my pfsense box, and redirected all traffic to Netflix though it, that worked surprisingly well, but it is like 8 years ago, when Norwegian Netflix barely had anything
quartz ether
A few of the ISP's here actually managed that for you and automatically gave you access to heaps of things that are region based and one of the local networks lost their shit and got it shut down. But it opened everyones eyes to the advantages of VPN's
clear ferry
Yeah, I set up my first VPN like 16 years ago, my friends didn't even start taking about VPN until atleast 2014
ocean mirage
I like the idea of a 4-day work week
I like the idea of a four hour work day to go with that, which would be very doable for everyone
hushed basalt
Not as crazy as it sounds
I'm pretty sure paleolithic humans only worked ~15 hours a week
Welcome to CapItAliSm
ocean mirage
I didn’t think it sounded crazy
Kropotkin predicted five hour work days long before the level of automation we have now
hushed basalt
Tell that to people doing 80+ hours of work a week 52 weeks a year once you factor in chores and commutes
clever mortar
Yeah, but momentum and 💰 drive chunks of that
Companies want more from people, and people want more things, and are attracted to the highly paid jobs that mean they need a 2+ hour commute to afford somewhere to crash
hushed basalt
This will get pol very quickly
ocean mirage
Yeah I can’t respond to that without crossing that line lol
clever mortar
I'll still take a shorter week than more money 😄
ocean mirage
I mean if we can talk about money surely we can talk about the abolishment of it....
ocean mirage
I never called for barter per se
hushed basalt
I think you're describing a symptom Tink, not the cause
This will delve into a discussion about wealth distribution, rent seekers and means of productions though
clever mortar
And the human condition
ocean mirage
The only place for it to go
clever mortar
Somebody should run a politics for non-politicians Discord for that kind of chat 😛
ocean mirage
Political discords are the worst place to discuss politics lol
hushed basalt
Yep
Just like aus finance reddit is the worst for financial advice
I think it's a topic that needs a representational cross section of the general population
Not a echo chamber
ocean mirage
Even if its not an echo chamber the main sort of person who joins those is insufferable
clear ferry
Mmmmm echo chamber
strange vapor
@clear ferry Even Linus is abandoning Intel!! https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Torvalds-Threadripper
clear ferry
Linus is a SEE YOU NEXT TUESDAY
strange vapor
When are you starting your migration to BSD? 😄
clear ferry
Who said it wasn't finished already ?
🤣
But seriously, I wouldn't want to be on the bad side of Linus, he has some serious people skill issues
There is atleast five diagnosies pending
🤣
strange vapor
Of his outbursts, I'm pretty 50/50. There some of them where he has been a bit, em, harsh, but there's plenty of others where the targets have been deserving and he had the outburst after the target had been an ass for a while.
clear ferry
Interesting, customer site just left for an offsite meeting, I'm sitting here for atleast 2 more hours
hooray github time
🤣
hushed basalt
All the kids are wondering which LTT video you're talking about
digital cradle
Hi, hope you are having a lovely day.. quick question: I am playing with platform: template - sensors - is there a way to reload them without restarting HA? Thanks
low harness
Didn't Linus start backing off recently, like stating it's a problem and that he's seeing a psychologist?
clear ferry
I am going to take time off and get some assistance on how to understand people’s emotions and respond appropriately.
light trout
"understand people’s emotions" 🤔
clear ferry
Well, I'm pretty sure he is far out on a few spectrums
so yes, he would probably need to learn how to do that
low harness
IIRC that was about at the same time van Rossum took a break from python.
clear ferry
hushed basalt
I've had to try to learn NFS for this kubernetes project
Is it just me or is NFS icky?
low harness
Had me worried there for a second.
clear ferry
but it's seen prominent growth the last few years, with multipathing etc implemented
I've had customers with HPC use some custom forks of NFS for getting multi storage performance for years, but I think that is part of the mainline now
NFS is still... somewhat used for ESXi too, by strange customers
Think the only places I still see prevalence of NFS is very old HP-UX installs or customers running Solaris
and HPC of course
haven't done a new install that uses NFS outside of HPC in...... atleast 10 years
hearty depot
How should you understand people’s emotions when there is no semicolon to tell you when the emotions are finished?
late gate
are roborocks vacuum cleaners serisouly still running ubuntu 14 as its os?
hushed basalt
For multi read write k8s pv's I think nfs is the only option without going to a distributed filesystem
Afaik
I should put ceph on my cluster but that's a whole other can of worms
Any windows server admins here
I'm curious how much you hate it
hushed basalt
Past tense?
Do you miss it
I'm guessing win servers are morr manageable than they were in the past though
clever mortar
I did some Windows back in the days of NT 3.51 and 4.0, and a little beyond. Kinda packed it all in by Windows 2003 or so.
hushed basalt
Clickops
I've been playing around with proxmox lately
I really don't care for doing things with the gui but having it as an observational gui is very handy
I also put a real service on my cluster for the first time today (factorio server)
Suchhhhh a performance increase compared to my synology nas
clear ferry
I worked with 2000-2003R2
It was just starting to get better, but the biggest issues are the users
🤢
I'm the only one in country that works with windows though, I can fix and install most stuff on anything up to 2016
Haven't touched 2019 yet
And stay away from hyperv if I can
clever mortar
I'm grateful I've had no reason to touch Windows in a long time 😄
light trout
Users are still an issue with 2019 @clear ferry
clear ferry
I would expect nothing less
clever mortar
Shocked to hear that...
remote zephyr
Where is the best place to post about memory use?
clear ferry
Is that an issue if you aren't running java applications?
velvet horizonBOT
remote zephyr
I'm at 80% usage on my pib+ wondering if it's time to upgrade to a nuc
clever mortar
80%, or 98%, RAM usage is largely irrelevant
It's what the RAM is used for that matters, but even then without swap being used, don't worry about it
remote zephyr
I'm running 8 cams on stream and keep having stability issues so I'm wondering if I'm just asking too much out of a pi
clever mortar
You need more detail, but there's nothing necessarily wrong with that
Tools like netdata will give you much more useful information
remote zephyr
okay. I'll check that out.
clever mortar
Of course, that spiky graph may indicate there's a problem, so 🤷
Trouble is, just RAM usage is a crappy diagnostic tool except in extreme circumstances
somber wagon
hmm, i have a feeling the latest update has borked my smartthings integration
due to smartthings using http defining the external hostname + certs
would the external_url move impacted this?
unreal orbit
You could try asking in #integrations-archived
somber wagon
will do
brazen dome
Hi, do you plan native support for Odroid C4?
tough ore
Hello, new guy here. Moving from bash scripts and APIs on a pi to do some automation, I briefly used Stringify and started this weekend giving a try to HA.
I just installed in a Pi 3B
*Installed it
somber wagon
hmm, how do i roll back versions
before the internal_url change
last version of 109
static schooner
That’s a lot of Home Assistant questions in #the-water-cooler
Recommend #330944238910963714 or #672217570283094017
clever mortar
Probably #330944238910963714
brazen dome
@junior forge Sorry, I can´t see it. There is Odroid N2 and Odroid C2, but not C4. Or am I wrong?
clever mortar
@brazen dome See #330944238910963714 😉
junior forge
@brazen dome Wow, excuses me... That was wrong reading from my end. Please accept my sincere apologies
dull chasm
damn @junior forge you ok?
brazen dome
@junior forge No problem. Do you plan to support this device in future or not?
junior forge
@dull chasm Yes I am sir, how kind of you to ask about my wellbeing, that is appreciated, sir!
@brazen dome Currently there are no plans for that. That said, I have failed my fortune telling exams, so I might be the wrong person to ask 🙂
dull chasm
you are welcome ...i am always concerned about everybody ..... we did have a man die in the line of duty today so i appreciate the thanks
last plaza
@clear ferry you need to build this for your garden https://youtu.be/hFZFjoX2cGg
junior forge
oh darn, that is sad. My condolences sir @dull chasm.
dull chasm
clever mortar
Sorry to hear that @dull chasm
dull chasm
yea not good but it happens
part of the job even thou my command staff dont agree but in my line of work it will happen
brazen dome
@brazen dome Currently there are no plans for that. That said, I have failed my fortune telling exams, so I might be the wrong person to ask 🙂
@junior forge I´m ok with your answer. Thank you. Currently no plans - enough for me to know... I´m asking because I want to replace my old Rpi3 for HA, so will go with RPi4...
junior forge
I would recommend the Odroid N2, especially because of the eMMC instead of SD cards
(and it is faster and better built overall)
(for complete information, I have both a Pi2/3/4 and N2)
brazen dome
Isn´t it overkill to use N2 for HA?
clever mortar
SD cards die 😉
The question is only when not if
Also, the Pi is a good starter platform, but you can easily outgrow them
brazen dome
I know - I´m currently running HA via SSD on RPi3
clever mortar
But, this is all (still) really for #330944238910963714
brazen dome
Sorry sirs... Thank you, I will move there 🙂
forest edge
wish they would move the usb boot for the rpi4 out of beta already
clear ferry
@last plaza
fading zodiac
Take care @dull chasm , sorry to hear that.
worn solar
been away from my HA for while, i need to update both hass.io core and operating system.. does it matter which order i do them?
static schooner
no
worn solar
thx
scenic radish
@worn solar #330944238910963714 for future questions related to that
meager blade
Hi all, how y'all doing?
Could anyone point me to a guide on how to flash Tasmota OTA, using windows 10, and NOT a raspberry pi ?
clever mortar
#diy-archived would know, or you could ask on the Tasmota Discord
meager blade
Thanks @clever mortar , could you please send me a link to the Tasmota discord server?
velvet horizonBOT
meager blade
Thanks 😊
rapid tendon
got my install up and running last nite
had some issues with docker not liking my DNS setup
But worked that out and now my rpi is now talking to stuff on my network 😄
split onyx
I'm running (what used to be hass.io) home assistant and am wondering if these steps will need to be taken by me for google cast devices:
clever mortar
clear ferry
Is that a homey ? 🤢
proven fulcrum
yeah
clear ferry
🤢
scenic radish
clear ferry
Propitary stuff that relies on third party companies and the cloud
Are not reliable
And the homey is damn expensive
light trout
They are as reliable as Norwegians at a public meetup
proven fulcrum
where i live there is a big big company that relies on aws for heating
haha
for their ovens
midnight adder
my ikea bulbs stopped working through the conbee II stick
clear ferry
Atleast Aws won't go out of business in a month, like wink
midnight adder
somebody any idea?
proven fulcrum
i have had the homey for 6 months
clever mortar
proven fulcrum
one day ill test it
clear ferry
Conbee🤢
clever mortar
.topic @midnight adder
velvet horizonBOT
light trout
Sell it to someone that does not know any better
clear ferry
That is one expensive ir fan controller
proven fulcrum
i bought it as an experiment for work
clear ferry
Had a friend ask me about what to do with home automation, gave him a complete write-up of HA and then he bought a Homey Pro
proven fulcrum
im buidling custom hw.. and wanted to see how it works
clear ferry
🤢
proven fulcrum
hahaha
clever mortar
You're a natural salesperson @clear ferry 👍
clever mortar
That's not sales role though
Sales are there to make bigger bonuses while selling stuff the customer doesn't need or want 😛
clear ferry
My poor balls
proven fulcrum
and i knock it over all the time
light trout
Even bigger bonus if they sell something that does not exist
clever mortar
Then engineering gets to make it
light trout
Yup...
clear ferry
You mean... cloud and composable and as a service ? @light trout
proven fulcrum
haha.. when you build hw you understand how stupid 80% of hw is
light trout
And AI
proven fulcrum
"this thing needs 10 flexible circutboard, 20 fpc cables to make it work with that shape"
design: "lets go baby, it needs to be a ball"
actually the homey doesnt need that.. it was generall harassment
clear ferry
I've seen servers that I know were designed by a single guy, and that is cool
Like the HP Piranha server
The A-Class HP-UX machine
Clamps to connect the power supply to the system board
midnight adder
where should i ask my question about effects of lights?
clever mortar
clever mortar
People who can read 😂
midnight adder
wait for your intel based laptop to burn due to karma my guy
forest edge
always so violent in here
clear ferry
midnight adder
i can have a pepe punch
undone aspen
Hmmmmm... well this is nice! I actually found neutral wires in my master bathroom switches!
Just need to expand it from a 1-gang 2-switch to a 2-gang.
Now the real question is. Should I put a simple "non-smart" humidity sensor switch there when I do that, or should I put a smart switch in there, and humidity sensor somewhere within there, to determine auto-shutoff (or timer based shut off from automation)?
undone aspen
Any thoughts on that from the general populace here? 😉
forest edge
rain rain go away, go visit atx
clear ferry
undone aspen
Now.... Humidity sensor switch, or smart on/off switch.... hmmmm
I'm really inclined to go with on/off switch, and simply set timers up for 1 hour, or so, until I get a humidity sensor in.
blinks.
Oooooh, possibly something like this: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Safe-Grow-Z-Wave-Plus-Smart-2-in-1-Sensor-Temperature-Humidity-Pack-of-2-SG-AB-03/303011867
undone aspen
Hmmm.. The 2-pack isn't available anywhere, and buying them in 1-packs is expensive. :/
rapid tendon
I've my home assistant in a NES case currently 😆
Originally was gonna be a retro gaming thing but that didn't pan out
Thinking of getting a HAL9000 type box to put it in at some point.
Like this i found on instructables a while back: (https://www.instructables.com/id/RaspberryPI-HAL9000/)
forest edge
@rapid tendon heh thats awesome
green inlet
🍌
ocean mirage
green inlet
Is that a 🍌in your 🩳 or are 🤟just 😁 to 👀 me
rustic lily
Hello, I'm really new to all this and could use some help. Is there a specific help channel? Essentially, I was having an issue with the supervisor and I tried reinstalling the homeassistant container. I ended up deleting the container then installing HA core. Sadly, I also lost my config, I know I should have been more careful... Anyways. Is there an easy way to get the correct container back?
scenic radish
green inlet
@light badger 🤔
You could always do
Is that a 🌮 in your 🩳 or are 🤟just 😁 to 👀 me
@rustic lily, stick with HAss core, use docker-compose, and define a persistent folder outside the docker to allow your config to persist.
brazen fable
https://valid.x86.fr/5a80cc My latest monster
green inlet
Only 3 screens 🤢 🤣
brazen fable
3 screens connected to this machine, sure
I have another 3 hooked up to my 8700k
And a TV 
undone aspen
Hehe.
green inlet
I was kidding...i have a total of one screen in my house. Most my stuff runs headless. 3 screens would be awesome
undone aspen
Well I ended up getting a non-radio based humidity fan sensor for the bathrooms. Testing out the hall bathroom now with it.
brazen fable
I've got an old 3750k i recycled as a file server that runs headless
I mostly just RDP into it when i need to change things. It's not often. It just holds files
undone aspen
But, I did Lutron Caseta the hall bathroom, with a dimmer. 😄
brazen fable
I need to do my bathroom switches
Right after I get HA loaded back up
Today I spent 7 hours cleaning and switching up parts in 3 different machines
ocean mirage
I could never find a use for even a third screen
I use my 2nd screen like 1% of the time
brazen fable
I use them all
Sometimes I wish I had more TBH
Then again one screen is usually dedicated to cameras
undone aspen
@brazen fable Yeah. I've wanted to get this done for a while. Today, I replaced an ancient Broan exhaust unit that was noisy as hell with a brand new NuTone unit, nice and windy, but not noisy. (not exactly quiet at 4 sones, but meh, don't care).
brazen fable
Usually.
undone aspen
That was the master bath, but the master bathroom has a 1-gang 2-switch setup, which needs to be changed to a 2-gang.
brazen fable
Everything but the bathroom is hue for me
but i'm not sticking hue bulbs in a bathroom
I take very hot showers
lmfao
so zwave switch it is
undone aspen
The hallway bath was already 2-gang 2-switch, and I found Neutral wires! So, I was giddy and happy just got a humidity sensor in the fan switch. 😄
I use Lutron Caseta myself, for pretty much all the light switches.
I seriously considered just putting in an On/Off Lutron switch on the exhaust fan, but then I got thinking. The lightbulb icon on those switches don't really say exhaust fan.
And after searching for Z-Wave humidity sensors, there wasn't a whole lot of good choices.....
So I went with a simple humidity sensor switch that has manual adjustments.
Hmmmmm...
Blasted. The only recessed Z-wave door sensor I'm finding that takes CR123A battery is Aeotec. :/
Though... That... Might be okay. I've just grown not to trust Aeotec so far.
mm.. Nope.. Not going there. #1 issue is battery drain.
Good ol German Engineering (Moar powa!) 🤣
brazen fable
I got two new zwave temp sensors in the mail today i'm going to try out for the garage and outside
undone aspen
hehe
brazen fable
And i'll probably grab another for my network closet and hook that up to a portable AC unit for on demand cooling when needed
undone aspen
I just got two more of my Ecolink door sensors. Put them on the bedroom doors minus the bedroom I use as my office, just to provide future automations. Open door from bedroom, at night, hallway light turns on a dim level.
brazen fable
All this equipment is starting to get HOT
undone aspen
heh
Starting to wonder what the heck UPS is doing. I dropped off a return package on Saturday, and it's...... status.... Has been "dropped off",.
brazen fable
Holiday weekend
undone aspen
UPS doesn't have holidays.
Then again, UPS is basically stalling movement on all packages for today, it seems. Accepting packages, but doing practically nothing with them.
Eh, well, Got more shipments tomorrow. Then more Wednesday, then Thursday, then Saturday.... Then Monday~Wednesday next week...
Keeping Amazon, USPS, and UPS busy. 🙂
For some reason Amazon's been using USPS a /lot/ lately.
scenic radish
italics
undone aspen
Italians?
humble pond
Who owns a domain they use in Supervised along with LetsEncrypt and wants to help me test an email forwarding addon?
undone aspen
See topic.
humble pond
It wasn't a support request, more of an announcement/call for help - created it here instead: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/hass-io-add-on-postfix-mail-forwarder/199350
Thanks though
undone aspen
Still. See topic. 🙂 Stuff like that would be better in #integrations-archived , or #general-archived
If you're asking "who has this, in hass, can you..." that is a support question. Period.
humble pond
Who has a dog and security cameras in hass? Can you share pics?
undone aspen
I do, and no!
humble pond
undone aspen
🤪
humble pond
You can, but won't 🤣
undone aspen
Or, can I? What if I were not authorized to do so? 😉
humble pond
secret... agent man... secret...
undone aspen
hehe.
Ooooh, fun times. I did a lot of work today, on home.
Still, there's more to be done.
humble pond
I spent the weekend getting my parents house setup on HA, squashing bugs in core, and building that email forwarder... nothing on my own home 😬
timid viper
Got my "dumb" RGB Ikea light strip (Ledberg) converted over to an esphome flashed rgbw controller (didnt have a rgb one so didn't populate the white channel for now) works perfect. Using the original power supply and cabling just replaced the push button controller.
Got it 50% off ($15) because it was returned due to the power cable being broken
clear ferry
@humble pond if I get my smart greenhouse up an running now I have to build my father a copy
humble pond
@clear ferry - you might have to build my wife a copy too 🤣
clear ferry
Gladly, I'll document it when it's done
fading zodiac
Morning
clear ferry
No
fading zodiac
Yes
clear ferry
Tidying up the greenhouse, new flooring
Gotta use my three times more vacation days than normal people for something
forest edge
what was that? it takes you three times longer to do something than normal people you say?
clear ferry
ocean mirage
Oof hope you feel better soon
hushed basalt
40 degrees or higher most of the past 24 hours haha
hushed basalt
Does anyone know of any good solutions for on prem monitoring
Needs to be pushed based
light trout
interns
clever mortar
There's a whole host of things, Zabbix, Xymon, Nagios, and more
clear ferry
Pfffff
low harness
"Hey, this thing you suggested months ago but we didn't want. We want it now. Before Monday."
Someone's going to be paying overtime.
clever mortar
🤣
strange vapor
@low harness The sounds legit...
fading zodiac
i know the feel
strange vapor
I got thrown a similar crash project a few weeks ago as my team was "blocking" another team from moving forward. Tore into the problem, deployed the Haproxy Swiss Army Server to fix the problem in a hurry with full monitoring, HA, the works. All deployed by Terraform. Handed over the details to the team we were blocking....
They haven't used it yet as they were so busy sitting on their arses blaming us as a blocker, without telling us, that they didn't have time to do their side of the work
clever mortar
I had one like that, where another team needed immediate temporary access to something (for no more than two weeks). Set them up with access that auto-disabled 6 weeks later. The accounts had been disabled for a month before they tried them. All in we did that dance three times before they did their part.
clever mortar
Probably depends on your tablet...
tame cove
Samsung Tab A , the ones i saw so far were almost just as expensive as the tablet itself
hushed basalt
Diy will be your best bet
Use an 180 degree usb mount and make a frame for it
Or a right angle
Depending on your setup
cedar oriole
Hi
strange vapor
Nice: https://cardsagainst.io/
Going to try the Card Against Containers on our next Zoom Happy Hour 😄
last dirge
most excellent framing
last dirge
I got a pressure regulating pump for like $15 on amazon
but it's 12V
and kind of high current
clear ferry
I have a 230v one
That just doesn't cut it
Just connected regular house water pressure to the system and it worked perfectly
But I want to use my rain tank damnit
This one looks perfect https://www.jula.no/catalog/bygg-og-maling/vann-og-sanitar/vannpumper/senkbare-pumper/senkbar-pumpe-731107/ i should buy it
last dirge
why do you need so much volume?
clear ferry
I need to lift it up atleast 3-4 meters and then distribute it inside the greenhouse
last dirge
are you using sprayers and not drip?
clear ferry
Both
last dirge
this is the higher pressure version/flow of what I'm going to upgrade to once I prove the concept https://smile.amazon.com/ALL-NEW-SEAFLO-Diaphragm-Pump/dp/B07QLJ3WHP/ref=sr_1_8?dchild=1&keywords=water+pump+12V&qid=1590498021&sr=8-8
it's got a pressure switch in it so it maintains 60PSI and cycles on when it notices a drop on the output
then the arduinos on the stations just open a solenoid valve and they get pressure
clear ferry
Yep, solenoids here too, depending on where I want the water to go
Controlled by an esp32
hushed basalt
I need to up my monitoring game
Servers are dying without me knowing
You should ask haxxa about pumps
@last dirge you'll probably want an accumulator tank too
last dirge
eh?
clear ferry
@hushed basalt buy proper servers
clear ferry
Sparkling
last dirge
this looks like the expansion tank on my water heater
they cost more than the pump
LOL
tidal bronze
@last dirge so impressed with mp rotators. Precipitation rates are on the dot after my catch cup tests.
last dirge
they perform significantly better than regular sprayers in almost every situation
in high sun they don't get evaporation as much, high wind, they're not blown off course as much
and because bigger droplets are hitting the ground, evaporation on the ground is limited too
tidal bronze
Yep. Had to do minor adjustments in zones with strip + regular rotators but other than that great distribution overall
last dirge
and as long as your colors match, your precip level is the same
not the case with the regular sprayers at all
tidal bronze
They don't list precipitation for strip rotators. In my application they are 0.1 behind mp 1000's
Was averaging 0.45/hr
Rainmachine calculated run times were pretty accurate as well
brazen fable
Man I got some chisels and they speed shuck drives so fast lmao
undone aspen
Oh blah. Wow.. Ring servers are down for the count entirely right now.
unreal orbit
Cloud services are unreliable? 
undone aspen
heh
Hell, I'm about to call them. Their status page doesn't even show anything wrong, yet clearly EVERYTHING is failing.
polar ice
I've been using the virtual environment HA Core for a couple years now. I just bought a RPi4 and going to try out Hass.io. Any general gotchas I should look for?
unreal orbit
That's a question more suited for #330944238910963714
late gate
lol I used so much water last year the meter reset and I got a bill in negative
scenic radish
integer overflow
late gate
hah yeah I kinda said the same
clear ferry
Pretty sure that is Spanish
@late gate you have meters? Never heard of anyone who actually said they wanted that
late gate
@clear ferry it was here when I moved in. never asked for it
clear ferry
It's either fixed rate or meter wherever I've lived, but I've never seen anyone actually have a meter
last plaza
🦗
clear ferry
scenic radish
shy comet
lol
autumn walrus
where is the best place to ask about an error when trying to update the Operating System to 4.7?
light trout
autumn walrus
thanks
last dirge
hey @clever mortar you around?
last dirge
what do you call the thing you use in the garden to haul dirt and such around; handles on one side, wheel on the other
clever mortar
Wheelbarrow
light trout
wife?
clever mortar
Child
last dirge
this video called it a trolley, it's in India
unreal orbit
I thought trolleys were at the grocery store
last dirge
that's what you call the thing at the grocery store you put stuff into, right?
clever mortar
Trolley would be a type of cart here
last plaza
Lorries and trolleys are common in India and UK.
last plaza
Lorry means truck
wide vale
Anyone else having IFTTT troubles, took 15 minutes to get the page to load good
light trout
Anyone still using IFTTT? 😮
last dirge
@wide vale did you check downdetector?
wide vale
I am trying to use Sleep for android, and it does not support local URLs for webhooks
So I am trying to setup Sleep for Android > Home Assistant, but via IFTTT
unreal orbit
You can use tasker with sleep for android
light trout
use your nabucasa url
clever mortar
Generally a greengrocer is more "specialist specifically selling fruit and veg", where a grocery store is more general stuff
wide vale
Trueee... is it possible with the free edition of Tasker or is there only paid?
Silly me, I apparently bought it already
Thanks guys!
clever mortar
Patience
The discussions have been kicked off, and will likely continue until the heat death of the universe
light trout
Only 2 channels?
I see 20+
fading zodiac
Calm :p
wet pilot
of the 4 methods, 2 have the supervisor and 2 do not
clever mortar
We may end up with a "simple" rename, or we may spawn more channels, or ... 🤷
wild grove
#gentoo
fading zodiac
Not messages
light trout
They will folow the user
fading zodiac
😂
last dirge
undone aspen
Allllllrighty. All but my 9V batteries have arrived, so far. 🙂
wise cypress
Just woke up to my Tuya devices being completely broken because they cut off IFTTT with no warning. Glad I started learning how to use this software this year.
clever mortar
Pretty sure folks were discussing that ... a week or more back 🤔
wise cypress
Wish they announced it on the app like they announced the suspension of it lol
Never got any warning just a message this morning "ifttts done"
clever mortar
To channel another person here ... Cloud 🤢
wise cypress
maybe it just might be time to ditch tuya
clever mortar
TuyaConvert FTW
light trout
From what I read they sendt out a notification on April 27
wise cypress
email or app notification? sure it would've caught my eye :/
undone aspen
Heh.
"Based on your order history, it may be time to reorder Zwave Door Sensor.". What the actual frack, Alexa?
That's not something you order repeatedly usually. LOL
wise cypress
maybe if you're fred flintstone and knock down the door everyday after work yelling "wilma i'm home"
clever mortar
Thing one through thing four, plus chaos
brisk glen
or just support hassos
and none of the alt installs
vm or metal
I like hassos because it lets me throw it on a vm and be done 😛
clear ferry
I just activated 2 extra access points, just because I can 🤣
clever mortar
You too can DoS the 2.4 GHz spectrum 🎉
clear ferry
well, with the 20 access points I have in my garage
I guess I can
I named my SSID IdioT
🤣
-81dB signal in my greenhouse with the IoT SSID, not bad, not great
I should probably mount an access point on the wall outside
I think I have a ruggedized AP somewhere
One of these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pVKdWQ1md0
late gate
just took me 3 months of lazyness to automate the living room cameras to turn around when someone is home, and it took me exactly 10 minutes to finish
clear ferry
Indoor cameras🤢
late gate
good for monitoring the dogs when not at home
but now they turn around with ptz when someone is at home
for privacy
vast dove
Indoor cameras🤢
vast dove
Everything?
late gate
like?
clear ferry
Home invasion is not a normal thing, in civilized countries
last plaza
Indoor cameras 🤢
late gate
well everyone can have their opinion. I feel safer to be able to check the house when not at home
vast dove
So if you are away and check your cameras and there is someone there, what does that help?
last dirge
anybody have one of those "sportsman style" coolers?
clever mortar
Somebody breaks in here, the dog will pester them until they finally give up and play with them...
late gate
@vast dove can activate a 120db sirene lol
vast dove
and?
late gate
maybe they will go away
last plaza
In Ohio, there was a lady who broke into someone’s house, washed their dishes, pet their dog and watched TV until police came. The owners caught the act on cameras and called cops.
clear ferry
@last plaza how dare she?
last plaza
We have good burglars 😎
lol
It was on news all over. Apparently she is mentally challenged. Still got arrested
late gate
then the cameras did good since the cops was called
last plaza
My cameras would catch them before they enter my house. I prefer it that way.
vast dove
So mostly indoor cameras just give you a false sense of security.
late gate
well of course I got outdoor cameras too
clear ferry
I have presence detection in almost every room, I know if someone is in my house, with both entrances covered by cameras, why would I film people inside my house 
And I have neighbours that would ask questions in 5 minutes if they saw someone else enter my house while I was away
late gate
to see what happens for insurance purposes?
last plaza
That’s why we have home security system. Really no need for indoor cameras. With home automation, cameras, presence detection and home security we are all set.
clear ferry
Indoor cameras is probably my biggest nono
last plaza
Some folks prefer indoor cameras. That’s totally fine.
late gate
of course. nobody forcing anyone
vast dove
For the folks that have indoor cameras, do you tell your guests about them?
late gate
@vast dove thats why my cameras as physically turned around
last dirge
the only time I had one inside the house is when I had to cover a whole row of windows AND a door and I had no easy way to do it from outside the house
vast dove
Please dont tag, this is not IRC.
last plaza
When you have friends and family comes over, so you tell them that they are being recorded?
light trout
When my camera was in use I had it in a smart outlet they cut the power to it when I was home
late gate
nobody is being recorded inside when someone is home
clear ferry
Even if they are turned around, do you announce that you have them?
light trout
I did
last plaza
When my camera was in use I had it in a smart outlet they cut the power to it when I was home
That’s a neat idea!
late gate
I dont see why I have to as long as they are not filming
light trout
Common courtesy
vast dove
For the 3 months of lazyness when you didnt turn them around then?
clear ferry
Do they have microphones?
last plaza
Common courtesy
Not very common these days.
late gate
turned around and disabled
no filming, no storing
turned around to show they are not pointed towards anyone
clear ferry
But they have microphones? That could be turned on without anyone knowing? Since they are turned around?
light trout
Mine did (netatmo welcome)
last plaza
Some of them do.
clear ferry
Anything is possible,unless you cut the power
late gate
the poe swith turn the power off
last plaza
Also, you can’t trust any brand these days.
So many creepy videos and incidents online - because folks don’t know how to secure them.
late gate
thats why I do those steps, but everyone can have their opinion
what I would not have is those home security cameras like verisure where the company can check the stream
last plaza
Sure! Your house, your cameras 😝
fallow fox
Questions (beleived to be) related to the HA core, where are those best directed?
light trout
/dev/null
vast dove
light trout
#🍻
fallow fox
That makes absolutely no sense, but OK! 😄
clear ferry
I remember I saw some guide from a russian guy that modded his system board to catch more comic background radiation so he could get more random numbers from urandom
Speaking of alarm companies, I wish I could roll my own setup and just send alarms to them
Guessing they'll open up for that in 10 years
fathom sparrow
bah, i have HA crap I need to do, but it's the boring stuff... so I don't want to do it
clear ferry
Never settle for boring stuff
fathom sparrow
that's why this is a never ending project
last plaza
Speaking of alarm companies, I wish I could roll my own setup and just send alarms to them
@clear ferry have a sim900 module and roll your own home security. You can have it text you or call you/cops. Make sure you have a battery backup for the device incase of power failures.
You can use pre-paid SIM cards in there, you only pay for what you use.
fluid zephyr
Nothing wrong, except it lets users do stuff without knowing what they are doing very easily imo
@clear ferry For example -- Today in Portainer, I learned how to not correctly rollback a container -- Lesson includes: Loosing volume data because you just click buttons instead of reading docs
I swear I'm not completly useless, I can always be used as a bad example
brisk glen
rule number one... have backups
rule number 2... verify the backups
rule number 3.. do rules 1 and 2 before making changes
fluid zephyr
I do have have backup for important stuff -- I should have made one here too but lucky it's not major. -- Just messing with ozwdaemon for the beta Z-Wave integration
I lost my Node Names but lucky to at least have a screen shot I can re-create from.
clear ferry
@last plaza doesn't work like that outside the us, hence give it ten years
glossy moss
hi guys new here
i installed HA on pi 3 b+ i have waited over 20mins now on the preparing screen
could this take longer
clever mortar
See #330944238910963714 😉
velvet horizonBOT
glossy moss
tnx
rain swift
where would one ask about tasmota?
velvet horizonBOT
undone aspen
heh
rain swift
I was wondering what the tasmota discord was.
undone aspen
Where do I talk about random stuff that may or may not involve HomeAsssistant, but doesn't involve any support? 🙂
clever mortar
#general-archived because they removed #hassio_in_docker
forest edge
for me, so i can come in here and poke atx with a stick
low harness
I finally finished this enough for painting.
undone aspen
So, pestering || @forest edge ||?
low harness
Can't wait to have that beast out of my workshop.
light trout
No LED's????? 😲
forest edge
is that an 8ft ceiling?
undone aspen
7.8ft
forest edge
no 2.4 is 8ft
undone aspen
Almost 7.9
low harness
Wait... It can't be 2,4. That's what we have indoors. It's less than a sheet of plywood.
low harness
It's a wide angle lens though, so it could be hard to understand the size anyway.
undone aspen
But... What is it?
low harness
And I'm on top of a workbench clinging onto the drill press.
It's a bunk bed for the girls
unreal orbit
Screws? after you got that fancy dovetail saw
low harness
Four year birthday present for the big one. She turns five in July.
undone aspen
Which is why some people will always hit their head on the top of the door frame.
low harness
I tried to dovetail the steps on the ladder, @unreal orbit. Failed horribly.
forest edge
i would always prefer inches and feet to measuring contruction than meters and cm
low harness
The rest was done before I got the saw.
undone aspen
It does, actually.
undone aspen
I need to hurry up and start working with my girlfriend's father to make me my own desk. Tired of this particle board crap piece of .....
unreal orbit
I thought it was pretty clearly a bunk bed 😉
low harness
I think so too, when I see the photo. Up close it's all just a huge pile of little mistakes.
undone aspen
He's got the tools, I only have some./
Hey! It could've been some unfinished server rack!
🙂
unreal orbit
Ah yes, a server rack with a ladder 🙂
forest edge
I like seeing what other people call "workshops" around the globe
undone aspen
To get to the top, where all the wires would be, yes!
forest edge
always interesting seeing what solutions people come up with to fix certian things etc
undone aspen
I went to Home Depot today, and they, for the first time I actively went looking for green 12awg green wire, they FINALLY had some.
I've been looking for it, for over a year....
low harness
Mine is just a garage. I'm planning to lay a floor there when the bed is out. Should make it a bit more cozy.
It looks a bit bare in the photo because all the benches are crammed to the back wall.
forest edge
@low harness the red thing is a garage door?
lol had to "open original" to get a better look
forest edge
swinging doors would be better for a shop than a overhead garage door. the track get in the way lol
and every shop has a makeshift sawdust collection system made out of a wood hehe
fluid zephyr
The Triplets have arrived! Thanks @slim vortex
unreal orbit
Blade fuse... interesting choice 🤔
clear ferry
What are those, and why are they fused?
unreal orbit
I think they're LED controllers
