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undone aspen
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(or any they have used and would never recommend?)

last plaza
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like what kind? I have a ton of 18650 Li-Ion batteries... definitely recommend if you can find a use for it

undone aspen
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like, AA/AAA

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Sorry,s hould've said that up front. πŸ™‚

scenic radish
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Didn't know they made li-ion in that form factor

last plaza
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yeah, I saw AA batteries with built-in USB charging

undone aspen
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They're still kinda newer, and seem to require ciruitry inside the batteries to make the DC-to-DC conversion right, but. Hmmm.

last plaza
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since they are only 1.5v, guess they can make them smaller

scenic radish
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Thought they were all NIMH

undone aspen
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Yeah,... Don't want USB charging directly on battery. LOL

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Tenevolt, AmpTORRENT, and Kenteli, so far that I've seen.

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Heh

last plaza
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they are harmless - the charging on the battery - most of the 18650 batteries you see have the same circuit for overcharge and polarity protection

undone aspen
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Tenavolt is the most expensive, but have a genuine Li-Ion battery and reporting the math correctly from the internal lithium-ion battery inside to the DC-to-DC conversion adapter they designed.

last plaza
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usually 18650 batteries are about 4.7v - they also have a smaller size, forgot the number, they can make lower voltage batteries

undone aspen
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Just the Tenavolt.... requires you use their charger specifically designed, and they don't even provide an actual charger, just the USB cable.

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And the USB cable is like 6 inches.

last plaza
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they will be good for remotes! you can charge your remote control

undone aspen
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What I'm HOPING to use proper 1.5V rechargable AA batteries for is Door Locks, and possibly Echo Wall Clock.

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NiMH is 1.2V, which... Can tend not to work as well.

last plaza
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you could try and let us know πŸ˜‰

undone aspen
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That is something I am considering. I was just hoping someone else had already triedc. LOL

last plaza
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I like the teardown part - they are actually 13430 batteries!

undone aspen
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Indeed.

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But, no charger, is kinda silly!

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Why provide a charger without a charger? LOL

last plaza
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You should be able to use iMax B6 charger for sure - unless the circuit board prevents it!

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use a simple AA or AAA battery holder, and connect it to iMax B6. plain and simple

undone aspen
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Yeah, there's some proprietary charging system on that, needs specifically 5V, and possibly some special handshake.

left marsh
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About my reboot time. I removed alexa media player and upgraded HA from 0.109.6 to 0.110.1.

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More than 5 minutes before, 34 seconds now

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Stats from a lot of reboots, not once

undone aspen
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Hmmm, Alexa Media Player doesn't cause much delay for me. Ring integration does though.

green inlet
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I know you want rechargeable but enegizer lithium blues last forever. A lot less hassle. They are a little expensive but run my locks for about a year. And no hassle with recharging.

hushed basalt
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Yeah if you need 1.5v disposable lithiums will be your best bet

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Otherwise eneloops are great for 1.2v

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It's dumb that manufacturers are making products now that don't work off 1.2v

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A lot of products will work fine but just report "low voltage"

scenic radish
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+1 on the Energizer lithiums. Good for low temp applications too

undone aspen
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Yeah, low-temp for sure, They can overheat quickly in high energy drain situations like a photo lamp.

scenic radish
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I use Energizer 2000 mAh rechargeables for my Xbox controller

green inlet
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You have to get the blues though.

scenic radish
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Great investment

undone aspen
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Energizer is a good one for longevity, but not entirely price.

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Been seeing some good reviews on the AmazonBasics NiMH made in Japan. But, I don't see those anymore.

green inlet
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I agree. They are expensive. Eneloops

undone aspen
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Eneloops are also up there in quality, but, not price.

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But, quality, they are low drain, high capacity, and meets long life expetancy.

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I, sadly, bought into EBL before. And they work.. though they drain fast.

green inlet
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I have found that batteries are a worth while expense. Nothing worse than trying to trouble shoot something for hours only to find out that your cheap batteries were the issue. It’s a quality of life thing for me.

undone aspen
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But, at the moment, AmazonBasics 2000 mAh (comparable to the Amazon Basics Black?), are $27 for 16. Eneloop is $19 for just 4.

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Err, no 8, sorry. πŸ™‚

green inlet
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The Eneloop are rechargeable though no?

undone aspen
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And the Energizer 16pk 2,000 mAh, $36

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Yes, these all are.

green inlet
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If I were doing rechargeable, I would do eneloop, if I wasn’t, I would do energized lithium blues. I used to fly $2k RC airplanes on eneloops

undone aspen
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Yeah, eneloops seems to be the price point and quality right between top runners and good runners in overall.

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This includes 1 year drain testing, 1 year constant discharge/recharge, internal resistence value before and after 1 year, and so many factors. It's ridiculous what this guy did, for NiMH at least.

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What I really want to know though is how do Lithium-Ion AA batteries perform, charge, and last.... heh.

hushed basalt
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Energizer rechargeables are poor

undone aspen
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Not really.

hushed basalt
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I suspect they make them bad for a) profit margin and b) to throw shade on rechargables

undone aspen
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They're pretty decent in overall testing and longevity. I've STILL got functional energizer rechargables.

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Their chargers, however, are crap.

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Tenergy, not great, but not absolutely horrible either.

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Hmmm.

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Someone did a test with the Tenavolt Li-Ion rechargables, and put them in a flashlight. The flashlight lasted like 2 hours at full bright, then dropped off instantly. But the voltage on the batteries was still 1.5V. Hmmmmmm..

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I may... Have to take a pass on that.

scenic radish
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Weird, I'd expect that more from NiMH

undone aspen
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NiMH drops off at the end, but Li-Ion doesn't.

scenic radish
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Right, that's what I mean

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When you get a low battery warning with NiMH it's no joke lol

undone aspen
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True here

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Hmmmm...

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At least with NiMH, standard devices that test charge, can work. Tenavolts.... You can't.

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If all you test is volts, it will simply fail.

green inlet
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Pretty sure the discharge curve on a lithium-ion is similar to a NiMH

undone aspen
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Except that they have to be power regulated to run at 1.5V. πŸ™‚

green inlet
undone aspen
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Yeah. That looks about right .

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Just makes you wonder why a simple flash light would just drop off and flicker but still be at 1.5v

green inlet
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Not after looking at that curve lmao

undone aspen
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I mean that’s 56-58v

green inlet
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No matter. The curve is the same.

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Also, I didn’t watch the video, did they test the flickering battery under a load

undone aspen
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If I put a li-ion rechargeable battery in my door lock and/or smoke/co detector, i want to know it’s still functional! lol

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No they didn’t

green inlet
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Well, that’s why. To truly test a battery, especially one of the new technology batteries, it needs to be under a load, because of its discharge curve.

undone aspen
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I guess though i can create reporting on zwave devices not connecting.

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True

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Hmmm

green inlet
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Just go by energizer lithium blues and live a productive life

undone aspen
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I want to stay away from non recharge batteries as much as possible

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Energizer alkaline batteries in my lock only last about 6 months.

green inlet
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Because they are alkaline

undone aspen
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Course, my EBL NiMH, only lasted about 3 months, fully charged, but EBL is also... Horrible batteries for NiMH, LOL

green inlet
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You do you though. ✌🏻 and 🍦...... goodnight.

undone aspen
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hehe

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Trying to find my battery pack of 8 I bought ~6 months ago, to look at the actual brand and which ones they actually are for sure.

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Ahhh, Energizer Max

midnight adder
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does anyone use a monitored alarm system?

clear ferry
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Lol wtf

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Hertz is bankrupt

wet pilot
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is it official? i know its definitely coming

clear ferry
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It's in the news here

wet pilot
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should crater the used car market even further

clear ferry
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Speaking of used cars, Norway has the second oldest car park in Europe by median age of cars

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Only beaten by Albania

clear ferry
hushed basalt
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Murrica

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Travel agents would be destroyed everywhere too

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I wonder how everyone with airbnb properties are doing

wet pilot
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if they were counting on that money, not great XD

clear ferry
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Greece and Cyprus just said they are welcoming norwegian,Danish and Finnish tourists next month

wet pilot
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the ones who purchased those properties for the sole purpose of renting them out are in trouble

hushed basalt
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Yeah leveraged properties

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Relying on guests to pay at least 3/4 of their mortgage

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10% LVR

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Or less. With interest only loans

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Hard to feel sorry for speculators who inflate housing costs because "PrOpReRTy cAN oNlY gO Up"

wet pilot
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pretty much

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financial rags are predicting another housing crash

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we'll see how it manifests

clear ferry
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We are already back to normal for most here since two weeks, wonder how long it will take for us to go anywhere

hushed basalt
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I'm supposed to buying a house this year but who knows

clear ferry
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Norwegian government is saying to stay home all summer, but I'm pretty sure that is 99% to strengthen Norwegian economy

hushed basalt
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There's always a "crash just around the corner"

wet pilot
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could be a good time. rates are in the toilet but supply could be a problem

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eh, its a bit more data driven this time

hushed basalt
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Government will pull every lever they can to keep housing unaffordable

wet pilot
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or china will buy up all the stock

clear ferry
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Yeah, property sales are back to normal here already, so no dip in prices

ocean mirage
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Oh god yes telco these people don't even know the nonsense that is negative gearing

clear ferry
hushed basalt
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Avoonjers asumble

cyan lotus
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gotta say, the new HACS pages are.. not good

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anyone else finding them hard to navigate?

clever mortar
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Nope

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Different yes

cyan lotus
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I mean I also couldn't update anything at first

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since the left menu was overlapping the popup

clever mortar
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Not seen that 🀷

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However, first release of the new UI, it'll get changes

cyan lotus
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it also seems like everything I had installed with it is broken

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I'm having to reinstall everything haha

clever mortar
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Assuming of course folks don't keep shitting on the dev...

cyan lotus
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I mean, yeah, it's different, but a lot of the terminology has changed

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I did know that the things you installed for it came from GH repositories

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but now everything is explicitly called that

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it was a little unexpected

forest edge
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@clear ferry your cloud lamp required chains to hang it? lol

clear ferry
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It's aesthetics

forest edge
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did you spray foam around a concrete center block?

clear ferry
midnight adder
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Does anyone perhaps know what password I should fill in to recover a snapshot? I used the hass.io google drive backup without password but restoring gives me 'invalid password'

clear ferry
midnight adder
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I don't understand what you mean @clear ferry ?

hearty depot
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#rules - check the first post point 5

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You won't find help in the lounge, your problem is related to supervised so you might find help there.
Also searching the rooms helps a lot. Saved me hours of troubleshooting aready

rare condor
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Anyone listen to self-hosted podcast?

hushed basalt
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I've listened to a bit @rare condor

rare condor
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The latest episode on Home Assistant was great, couldn't agree more with their opinions on the future of the project

clear ferry
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I've just been self hosting for 22 years, that has to count

hushed basalt
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You're not a normal representation of human beings though

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It's like using House MD as a representation of doctors

old summit
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Hey, I diagnose myself all the time

rare condor
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@hushed basalt lol that's perfect

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So I have 5 assignments due in 24hrs, I should probs start and cancel all the other plans I made

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Opens Reddit

lavish eagle
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oh nice the new update to ha means i can finally ignore adding my wifi router

clear ferry
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Discovery 🀒

gleaming reef
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Hi! i was wondering in what room i need to be if i have some questions (trouble) with Modbus, is it in integrations or devices?

rare condor
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@gleaming reef #integrations-archived, I made some PRs to modbus integration and I am PLC tech so I might be able to help

gleaming reef
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ok, cool! i'll move to integration

lavish eagle
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Yeah I don't like the automatic discovery thing so much. If there is something I want to add, I will know what it is. The discovery just gives me annoying notifications and makes a mess of my integrations.

forest edge
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@clear ferry you self host a podcast? about what?

rare condor
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@forest edge I think he means he self hosts (like servers and the like)

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Not makes podcasts

hushed basalt
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Probably self hosts his own mail server

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The sick barstard

clear ferry
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I did self host an internet radio for a few years in the early 00s though

ocean mirage
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thats not surprising

clear ferry
hushed basalt
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People in the irc channel I was in couldn't get streamer status because they didn't have >128k upload

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Straya!

clear ferry
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I had 155/155Mbit in 2003, but I had 1/0.7Mbit in 2002 haha

hushed basalt
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I only just got faster than 7/0.8 24 months ago

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Zero point eight....

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🀒

ocean mirage
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oh wow

forest edge
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I've had just about every internet speed there ever was aside from commercial T series

hushed basalt
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28.8k?

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9600?

forest edge
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yup

hushed basalt
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Yikes

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Atx has 500mbit

forest edge
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I evven still havve my baud modem lol

hushed basalt
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So that's 500 000 000 : 9600

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People can also get 10gbit in residential areas now

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Just unfathomable

forest edge
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10? where? not here lol

hushed basalt
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Singapore most likely

clear ferry
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I have gone 9600-14400-28800-56700-64k/128k-1Mb-2Mb-155Mb-10Mb-50Mb-20Mb-100Mb-200Mb-300Mb-500Mb

forest edge
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all within a few years too

clear ferry
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Can get 10Gbit in Sweden too

forest edge
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πŸ˜‹

clear ferry
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That is from 94-2020 haha

hushed basalt
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28800-56000-4mbit-8mbit-80mbit

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And it's not likely to see higher than that for 20 years+

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DSL will be a fantastic asset for Australia in 2030, 2040

clear ferry
hushed basalt
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When the aliens invade and use fibre to refract their mind control beams we'll be the ones laughing then

clear ferry
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I suspect I'll have have gigabit within 2 years

forest edge
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satellite is faster than DSL these days I think

hushed basalt
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Not our satellite

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Everything is relative

clear ferry
forest edge
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@clear ferry what? you don't have access to just plain ole gigabit internet yet?

clear ferry
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I have had for 5 years, it's just not worth it in price

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$110 per month

forest edge
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$70 here

clear ferry
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Without datacaps ? lmao

forest edge
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of course, we don't have caps here cept on cell service

clear ferry
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only download 6GB per month! no rollover

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Yeah I heard it was illegal on some subscriptions to do wireless hotspot even

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Wtf

forest edge
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illegal no, they could cancel your servvice tho

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but that was awhile ago, don't think that is a thing now

clear ferry
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Wife said a friend of hers got a warning only a few weeks ago

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Muuuuurica

forest edge
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guess it depends what carrier they are on. sprint use to do that crap years ago but i been on project google for like 3 years so no clue

hushed basalt
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We pay $100 for "100/40"

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Soon to be $108

forest edge
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alot of carriers do data throttling after x amount of data which is dumb, some don't do that

hushed basalt
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Due to a new levy on broadband

clear ferry
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I have new data pack after 15GB, wife had every 10GB , but up to 30GB rollover

hushed basalt
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I have rollover

forest edge
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who the hell uses 30gb/m of cell data? lol

hushed basalt
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200gb maxed out

forest edge
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I can't listen to podcasts lol

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i'm just not built to do that

clear ferry
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I use 20GB a month mostly

forest edge
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doing what? surfing p0rn?

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I coulkd see netflix streaming maybe but that's another thing i cannot do, watch tv on my phone lol

clear ferry
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Driving, music, podcasts, mobile hotspot, downloads,

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A regular os disk is 4-15GB

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A firmware dvd is 2-8GB

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I only stream in high quality audio

forest edge
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why you downloading this to your phone?

clear ferry
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And if I'm waiting for customers in the DC I watch from my Plex

forest edge
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oh nm your hotspotting

clear ferry
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Mobile hotspot, I download it to my laptop

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I've had months I've used 40-50 GB

forest edge
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your one of those people you see in airports standing in a corner with your phone plugged into a charger arent you? lol

clear ferry
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No, I always bring two power banks fuckyou

forest edge
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lol

old summit
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Haha, sounds like my life

digital cradle
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Hi all anyone having issues with config-template-card.. not working for me in 0.110

rare condor
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Name: Harrison, Role: Project Lead/Product Owner - well that's news to me. Just looked at a work document I had never seen before for a client and apparently I am project lead. hmmm....

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( I should mention the project has finished)

orchid rose
last plaza
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Name: Harrison, Role: Project Lead/Product Owner - well that's news to me. Just looked at a work document I had never seen before for a client and apparently I am project lead. hmmm....
@rare condor ask for more salary and back pay.

clear ferry
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I'm so glad I work in properly organized projects and not kindergartens like that haha

undone aspen
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LOL

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Well, I was the "Lead Architect" on some very specific piece of server software I was still learning.

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Fun times. Removing Aeotec Door/Window Sensor 7's and replacing with Ecolink Door/Window Sensors.

midnight adder
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Does anyone know how I can import a video feed (1 picture every 10s) from a website?

clever mortar
midnight adder
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@clever mortar Would you mind helping me with another thing?

clever mortar
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Only if you stop tagging to demand help πŸ˜‰ Because that's how it can come across...

midnight adder
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@clever mortar Okay, sorry....

clever mortar
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~irc @midnight adder

velvet horizonBOT
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midnight adder
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I have a couple of scrapes that I would lika to get in to hass. Sadly I can never understand how scraping works...

clever mortar
midnight adder
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Okay

dull chasm
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@clever mortar can you help i got 10 acres to mow

clever mortar
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Sure. I'll arrange an airdrop of some cows. Hopefully the parachutes work this time...

dull chasm
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damn ....steaks and grass cut ... i am good

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Waiting

clever mortar
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Takes a while to get them into the air

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Also, I'm a little low on helium for the blimp, but I'll get some hot air from senior management... that's almost as good

dull chasm
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damn you sound like coprate ...so this will never happen πŸ§–β€β™‚οΈ

clever mortar
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35 MPH for the blimp, 4.7K miles... let me get a calculator

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134 days, give or take πŸ€”

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I think the cows will run out of food first

dull chasm
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k ................i am good ....send the steaks and enoug food for them to make it

clever mortar
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Or just vacuum pack them, then there's no food needed πŸ€”

dull chasm
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but hard for them to eat grass once they arrive .....suck it up and just send 1st class ballon

clever mortar
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50 MPH then, but they may have to take the long way round

dull chasm
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kkk 🀎

fiery sorrel
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hello :)
I've already asked, but i think noone had an reply for me so i'll try again :)
Does anyone have a good video or reading on when to use which type of power type in automation ? (Real, Apparent, Reactive) i've read a lot about what each kind is, but i don't see when i should use which value

clever mortar
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Maybe you need to explain your question more clearly πŸ˜‰

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It sounds like it might be vaguely #diy-archived related, but it's not at all clear what you're really asking

fiery sorrel
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i didn't think it was "worthy of automation channel.
The issue is that is don't understand in which case i should use which value...
Now that i have some tasmota power monitoring, i have to many data XD

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for now i've only had real power... in W. i didn't know they where other type

clever mortar
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It sounds like you're over thinking things

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Use whatever values work for your logic

fiery sorrel
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i wanna make things right, that why i ask for good practice, especialy since they all represente somewhat the same thing... how much power is consume.
But i think i'v read some power type is better for device authentification... i don't know :(

clever mortar
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Well, I'd ask the folks in the Tasmota Discord if you really care enough 🀷

velvet horizonBOT
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fiery sorrel
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yea, i'll try that.
I thought maybe it was something common i juste never encounter before

clever mortar
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If you want further chat about it here... this isn't the channel for it πŸ˜‰

fiery sorrel
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sorry, i didn't mean for it to be a "help" question, more a 'hey do you know about this thing' ^^' ill be more carefull

clever mortar
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Well, as I said, you're over thinking it IMO

undone aspen
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Heh.. I think I know what I might try to do with one of my Zigbee SmartThings multisensors... Put one in my mailbox, to detect when it's being opened!

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Wonder if I'll have the range to work with that. heh

forest edge
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what channel should i acquire about yard clover take over?

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they sure do look green but holy hell they grow fast and the mower hates them

last plaza
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what channel should i acquire about yard clover take over?
@forest edge that would be special request channel. You need to tag mods for that

undone aspen
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||@forest edge Yard clover take over?||

forest edge
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atMods

undone aspen
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hehehe

last plaza
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My yard looks clear of al clover, and all weeds finally. Looking great so far.

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Hard part is keeping that way.

forest edge
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not sure if i should feel bad for my neighbor or blame my neighbor. they just took over my front yard this year and his so it's hard to tell where the originated lol

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wish they would take over the spots where i have trouble getting grass to grow but noooo the little bastards don't want to help me there lol

last plaza
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lol. I told my neighbor to maintain his lawn last year as his weeds are taking over my backyard. He felt apologetic, and gave me a bag full of grass seeds to patch it. And he did great this year!

forest edge
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oh man you'd hate me as a neighbor then lol

last plaza
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Great to have good neighbors 😎

forest edge
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I got too many yards to mow to have time with making them purty

undone aspen
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Hmmmm... Are you talking green clover, or white clover?

forest edge
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4 leaf clovvver

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the irish are invading

undone aspen
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Well, that's fine. I'm part Irish. πŸ™‚

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πŸ€

last plaza
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Got a letter from my HOA two weeks ago saying I need to plant more trees in my front yard. Apparently in the contract it says we’re supposed to have 9 trees at a minimum.

scenic radish
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Lol wtf

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Do you also have to wear a minimum of 9 pieces of flair?

forest edge
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plant some bonsai trees to piss them off

last plaza
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Yep. I will show the letter when I get to it later. We planted 6 trees this morning. Spent $460 on trees yesterday.

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These guys are crazy. The lady came over to my house, stood right next to my mailbox and started to count the trees. Perennials and annuals doesn’t count. They have to be well grounded shrubs or grown trees

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In my neighborhood there are about 80 houses that got the letter. People are pissed on nextdoor app.

forest edge
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I'll never understand how you people can put up with hoa's. my girls parents live in one and yea.. no thank you lol

last plaza
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Well, glad it is all over. Got some good plants and always feels great planting more trees anyway.

forest edge
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I still would have planted bonsai trees lol

last plaza
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lol

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These fuckers have crafted the notes in the contract so well - probably lawyers helped write that shit.

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Most folks follow the rules as they don’t have time to fight with them, and love the neighborhood for schools and all.

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As soon as my kids are out of the school dist, I’d be happy move to a more relaxed environment

forest edge
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my family use to own a big chunk of land near where i live now and they sold it to a house dev which was suppose to make it an hoa. they put in this water fountain thing in the middle of this pond that's there and the hoa aspect fell through so like the pump and stuff lasted for like 15 years or something and somehow the power was just overlooked and noone was paying

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the fountain stopped working one day so on nextdoor everyone was asking what happened and noone knows how to get it working again lol

last plaza
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lol

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We’re also done planting vegetables for this year. βœ…

forest edge
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was crazy, some of the original people who moved in had these official documents about it going hoa and such but nothing ever came of it

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nice

last plaza
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We need votes to evict the HOA. But most people prefer to keep HOA in our neighborhood. They are worried about the property values going down without HOA.

forest edge
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yea I have heard the stories and the fears lol

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people think without the hoa their neighbors would turn to meth and start parking rusted vvehicles in the yard

last plaza
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Need to make one more final visit to nursery and we’re done. Then I can ride my bike all weekend 😎

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Even with HOA people do meth. We busted once right across my street. Two girls sitting and taking drugs - I went with my camera recording and told them to throw the pipe and shit outside - and asked them never to return to our neighborhood. They denied doing everything at first, but later dropped the pipe and left!

forest edge
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@scenic radish what hell does the hoa do for condo's? maintain a swimming pool? it's not like you have outside appearances or anything

scenic radish
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Exterior building maintenance, landscaping, maintaining other common areas (if they exist like a swimming pool)

last plaza
#

I captured license plates, and their faces with drugs on camera. They never returned.

forest edge
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Exterior building maintenance, landscaping, maintaining other common areas (if they exist like a swimming pool)
@scenic radish so just like evvery non-hoa apartment? lol

scenic radish
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Sure, but condos are mostly owner occupied

forest edge
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but it's hoa, you don't own anything lol

scenic radish
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I own my unit...

forest edge
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owning would imply poower to control

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lol you said unit

scenic radish
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I can do whatever I want to the inside. The flooring just needs to be carpet in certain areas

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I can sell it whenever I want as well

velvet horizonBOT
#
The topic of this channel is:

NO HOME ASSISTANT SUPPORT HERE (look at the other channels for that). NO POLITICS OR RELIGION!
BE CIVIL to one another or get BANNED permanently.

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clever mortar
#

Sounds like you want to ask in #330944238910963714 - though none of that is likely "HACS" but the custom components you added @coarse vigil

coarse vigil
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Thx...will do. interesting that they'd all just start malfunctioning after the upgrade though

undone aspen
#

Wait. What? We have to be civil now toooooo?

clever mortar
#

Yes, you have to say please before telling people where to go

undone aspen
#

Ahhhhhhhhh.... I see! I see! πŸ˜‡

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Well, I did end up ordering Tenavolt Li-Ion rechargable batteries, to see how they work on my Kwikset Convert lock.

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Since my batteries currently, are at 30%, and likely soon to die.

forest edge
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Yes, you have to say please before telling people where to go
@scenic radish please go f || ind a a bigger condo ||

undone aspen
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LOL

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Just put in my returns for the Aeotec Door/Window Sensor 7's I previously ordered and already replaced with the Ecolink sensors instead. Still pondering whether to try to get that Aeotec Siren 6 to work or not.....

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Well, this is funny.

clear ferry
#

Amazon is now the new wish

feral zodiac
#

Is the comminity down?

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-i+u

clever mortar
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No

junior forge
#

Are you banned @feral zodiac ?

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What did you do? πŸ˜‚

feral zodiac
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Asked to many questions maybe.. No, not banned..

#

πŸ˜›

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Just can't reach it. No one else experiencing it? Then I guess it's my pfblocker

junior forge
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You asked questions ahhhhhhhhh

feral zodiac
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I know, it's terrible

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QUESTIONS

clear ferry
junior forge
#

Am I weirdo for having a song on repeat?

clever mortar
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Depends on the song

junior forge
#

Well, it is Alanis Morissette, so that makes it weird

clever mortar
#

Eh... it's not The wheels on the bus

junior forge
#

☝️ Agreed, could be worse

undone aspen
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That rolled downhill fast. 🀣 πŸ˜‚ πŸ™ƒ

last dirge
#

apparently people panic bought freezers

late gate
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@junior forge just put the "The Gummy Bear Song" on repeat for 10 hours and see how sane you are afterwards

junior forge
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I have kids... I know what it is like... crying

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on repeat as well

late gate
#

a colleuge had that song as ring tone, and that phone was ringing 24/7

clear ferry
junior forge
#

Let me guess... either you or him has a new job?

late gate
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we put the phone in a plastic bag and hung it outside the window

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and yes I quit lol

junior forge
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hahaha

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nice!

clear ferry
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You have to deal with colleagues ?

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🀒 🀒

clever mortar
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s/British/English/

amber horizon
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TP-Link Smart Plugs > Home Assistant > InfluxDB > Grafana

clear ferry
junior forge
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That looks sexy @amber horizon

clear ferry
clever mortar
amber horizon
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@junior forge I thank you! What's not sexy tho is the power use BlobSweat

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just as well rent covers all bills then Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

scenic radish
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Tornado warning 😬

clever mortar
scenic radish
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Tinkerer GIF game on point rn

clever mortar
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If you do see any passing cows... you probably shouldn't be outside πŸ˜›

scenic radish
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What would be more shocking is not that a cow was in the air but that a cow was anywhere near here to begin with

clever mortar
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πŸ˜‚

scenic radish
#

have you mooed today?

clear ferry
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Insert presumptuous mother joke here

scenic radish
# 
matt@debian-server:~$ apt moo
                 (__)
                 (oo)
           /------\/
          / |    ||
         *  /\---/\
            ~~   ~~
..."Have you mooed today?"...
clear ferry
#

man woman

scenic radish
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no manual entry for woman
There's never been a truer statement

undone aspen
#

Hmmmmm... Grafana dashboard for Home Assistant?

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@amber horizon Not sure I like the InfluxDB part of that, but nice.

scenic radish
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@clear ferry "know your onions" and "dog's bollocks" are my favorites

amber horizon
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@undone aspen why not InfluxDB?

scenic radish
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cheerio!

undone aspen
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Well, because they switched from being FREE, to not-really-free, and as a result, they removed features that were free to become "commercial".

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And, because.. InfluxDB isn't as great as people think it is.

amber horizon
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For my first step into Grafana and home automation, it'll do for the minute

scenic radish
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That'll do donkey, that'll do.

undone aspen
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hehe

amber horizon
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it's still free tho isn't it?

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you can pay for support if you wann

undone aspen
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No, it's not "still free".

clear ferry
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@scenic radish sori 4 mi badd inglish, a no itt some times are badd

amber horizon
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free to use, not freee as in free software

undone aspen
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No, not even that

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Look up "free" πŸ˜‰

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Free isn't "this part only".

scenic radish
undone aspen
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lol

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Well played, John Snow.

clear ferry
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As far as I can see self hosting influxdb isn't limited in any way

hearty depot
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Idea if I could convert a port to a socket?
and then forward that via ssh?
just playing around πŸ˜›

clear ferry
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Got any information on that @undone aspen

undone aspen
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Hmm, they must've switched it back to an MIT license sometime.

clear ferry
undone aspen
light badger
#

One thing I always struggle with in HA is all the entities and their naming. Wondering if people have tips on how to best manage this.

To get really specific for an example, I have 2 sensors for my battery level on my iphone. No idea how that happened.

sensor.my_iphone_battery_level
sensor.my_iphone_battery_level_2

undone aspen
#

Did you upgrade your iPhone to a new iPhone?

light badger
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no, not in the last year

amber horizon
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better not say I run the whole Telegraf/InfluxDB/Chromograf/Grafana stack on Windows then πŸ™ƒ

light badger
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i have no idea when this new sensor was added and why the old sensor was invalidated

clear ferry
undone aspen
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better not say I run the whole Telegraf/InfluxDB/Chromograf/Grafana stack on Windows then πŸ™ƒ
@amber horizon
Hmmm. Where'd that axe come from on the reactions? πŸ˜‰

amber horizon
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I mean, it's the OS I'm most familar with

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I did try set it up ubuntu server but I had issuse with it

scenic radish
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who cares if he uses windows

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it doesn't affect anyone else

undone aspen
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Yet. It does.

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hehe

amber horizon
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wat

undone aspen
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The insecurity of his Windows will absolutely cause noise to my systems at some point in time, if it's not already. πŸ™‚

#

Remember, code red? πŸ˜‰

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Heh, ugh... Why... CR2... batteries... Why....

fallow spire
#

Okay, ive been running this software for a week... When does it get easy guys? Is it worth the pain?

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I love tinkering, I love doing a tiny bit of coding work and learning. But it just seems like theres "fun tinkering" then theres "Heres todays new problem" tinkering. Its sortve the difference between wanting to own a classic car and the reality of owning it lol

amber horizon
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I don't know what Code Red is

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In a perfect world I'd have it all running on free open source software and I'd have the time to learn how to do everything properly, but it's not, so I'll do what works for me with an OS I know and as securely as I can

undone aspen
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@fallow spire Nice start. Though. It's always easy, to answer your question.

fallow spire
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hahaha

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its been very painful for me so far.

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But in fairness, the only money spent has been on an ipad holder for a wall and a Conbee 2

undone aspen
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Mmm.. Zigbee.. The thing I'm getting away from. LOL

fallow spire
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Living with a mrs means she needs the bulbs, logitech harmony and other bits to still work with alexa. Which is seemingly not possible, at least not with the same functionality as before

undone aspen
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Sure it is.

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In fact... MORE so.

fallow spire
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Shame Philips et al dont let you connect their bulbs to multiple bridges but then again i am probably the only person in the world that needs that functionaltiy haha

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not in my experience, my alexa thinks all the bulbs are "non responsive" on the first, and sometimes second attempt to get them going on/off.

undone aspen
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Phillips makes great light bulbs, just horrible RGB light systems.

fallow spire
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Ive got 2 phillips and 2 innr, I actually prefer the innr.

undone aspen
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I have nearly all philips light bulbs, in my house. But, the kind you screw into regular light sockets and aren't WiFi/BT/etc enhanced. With Lutron Caseta switches to control most of the lighting. πŸ™‚

fallow spire
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Ive moved on to using the Kasa plugs for lamps, which we mostly use at night anyway

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Wifi is always better

undone aspen
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... Not really.

fallow spire
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Well no, everything I can have over an ethernet is. But I prefer it to Zigbee option

undone aspen
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Lutron is neither Zigbee nor Z-wave. It's their own wireless. πŸ™‚

fallow spire
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HA has completely lost connection to one of my plugs but the Kasa app and alexa still have it fine so at least its got a back up swithc, as it were.

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o rly?

clear ferry
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Propitary 🀒

undone aspen
#

Ugh. I hate that shtspk, with an undying passion.

fallow spire
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The wall switches would be a nice touch we just dont tend to use the main lights in the evening, so lamps and plugs have proved a more solid connection than lamps and smart bulbs anyway.

clear ferry
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@fallow spire I do Xiaomi, Philips, IKEA, gledopto via zigbee2mqtt, one mesh, easy to fail over to a second host, no need for multiple bridges or coordinators

fallow spire
#

it was working flawlessly until i fancied putting a pi4 to a different use (Lockdown bordem part 103).

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@clear ferry thats what I want really. I want HA to be the main host of all these devices and alexa to just be able to send commands to HA as it would have sent to the bulbs/switches/harmony before.

clear ferry
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Yep, that is what I can do

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I just do it via Google home for pazaaaz though

undone aspen
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Hmmm, One day I should probably figure out the best placement for recessed ceiling wall lighting for my living room.

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heh.

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Hmmm..

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I wonder what the operating temperature is for my sensors,a nd what the temperature is inside my black, metal mail box, in the florida sun.

last plaza
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They should make those post boxes using solar panels.

undone aspen
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LOL

west ridge
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Hi, I have 'Slide' curtains. However, they show up as blinds in Google Home. I would like to let them appear as curtains instead of blinds. The device_class is set to cover --> curtain already. Can I fix this?

undone aspen
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Hmmm. I need to automate my curtains. :/

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Quite probably the most expensive thing in the house TO actually automate most times. LOL

strange vapor
scenic radish
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That is a surprisingly similar color isn't it

strange vapor
#

Way too similar πŸ™‚

hushed basalt
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I use a trackball so I have to use goose yolks

subtle frost
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A little help if I may . . . Trying to setup a power monitoring socket to alert when the washing has finished.

#
  • platform: template
    sensors:
    washer_on:
    friendly_name: "Washing Machine Status"
    device_class: power
    delay_on:
    minutes: 2
    delay_off:
    minutes: 2
    value_template: >
    {{ states('sensor.washing_machine_energy_power')|float > 10 }}
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so I think this is correct?

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but I get this error

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nvalid config for [sensor.template]: expected dictionary for dictionary value @ data['sensors']. Got None
extra keys not allowed @ data['washer_on']. Got OrderedDict([('friendly_name', 'Wasmachine aan'), ('device_class', 'power'), ('delay_on', OrderedDict([('minutes', 2)])), ('delay_off', OrderedDict([('minutes', 2)])), ('value_template', "{{ states('sensor.washing_machine_energy_power')|float > 10 }}\n")]). (See ?, line ?).

scenic radish
subtle frost
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ohhh sorry, I'm new at all this, I should be chatting in the templates room?

scenic radish
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Yep, take a look at the channel topic for each room to determine where to post

subtle frost
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got it, thasnks

wary sorrel
#

what happen to the lovelace support channel

scenic radish
wary sorrel
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oh thanks man

hushed basalt
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It's gonna get windy today

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Massive storm coming

scenic radish
#

We just had a 'nado warning today

dull chasm
green inlet
#

DIY @ it’s finest

quartz ether
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Time for a new install and to start over I think

scenic radish
#

Y

quartz ether
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Soooooo much of my config is manual and almost all of it now is intergration possible. So clean slate will be best

scenic radish
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Seems extreme

quartz ether
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Also a lot of packages that are no longer used and different styles of naming/layouts over the years so cleaning it up would be good.

steel urchin
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anyone have metrics on their HVAC systems? like how long they run on average per cycle, how many cycles per day, etc?

wet pilot
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AC turned on for the first time today, I could take a look

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And that's with a 20yo system

clear ferry
viral relic
#

Hi I wanted to ask a question. I have smart shades that are on this vertilux WiFi hub. Any way to integrate in HA?

clear ferry
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From what I can see there is no out of the box solution, but with a little work you might be able to make a custom component

west ridge
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Hi, I have 'Slide' curtains. However, they show up as blinds in Google Home. I would like to let them appear as curtains instead of blinds. The device_class is set to cover --> curtain already. Can I fix this?

velvet horizonBOT
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@west ridge Please DO NOT cross post. Read the channel description, post it and wait for folks to respond.

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hushed basalt
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I might get a mikrotik sfp+ switch just to annoy atx

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10gb, and no decent L3 capabilities

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But it's cheap to buy and cheap to run. 8 ports.

clear ferry
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Does it atleast have a cli?

spice depot
#

HI, I moved to a new wifi router and am having trouble accessing my home assistant. I think the issue is that the new router is using ipv6 but not sure how to deal with this. what is the best channel to ask in?

hushed basalt
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It has a management port and a db9 on the front

clear ferry
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@spice depot IT only has ipv6 on the wan side? That sounds progressive

spice depot
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@clear ferry

clear ferry
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Well, that ain't your router, hopefully not your ha server, and it has a v4 address

ocean mirage
#

so I have the address to a JSON file and want to parse it to display in HA, which channel do I ask about this in

clear ferry
#

Pm to @hushed basalt

ocean mirage
#

and you a mod smhhh

clear ferry
ocean mirage
#

cheers

hushed basalt
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$250 for 8 port sfp+ : πŸ”₯

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Fanless too

amber horizon
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wish they had one with 4x SFP+ and 8x gig ethernet, I'd be all over that

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trying to find fanless switches with SFP+ ain't easy

clear ferry
#

Router switch josepHHM

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Layer 3 layer 2

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Nice

scenic radish
#

Home assistant sees my Google home speakers and speaker groups on a separate VLAN with mDNS reflection, but my phone only sees the speakers GWchadThonkery

forest edge
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weird seeing two updates to the frontend in the same update lol

clever mortar
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The frontend devs were clearly all you're not done yet, well I'll get this change in too then

undone aspen
#

Heh. At least my girlfriend came home to give me lunch as a great break from doing lawn work. Ugh. Still hate lawn care. LOL

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Oh, and I'm scared. USPS has 2 packages for me today, and no USPS Informed Delivery about it.

clear ferry
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Lawn work is fun enough, but I've built so much stuff now that I've decreased my green areas remarkably

undone aspen
#

heh

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Yeah, I really would do that myself except that I do have 4 dogs. πŸ™‚

clear ferry
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Ain't got time for that jibba jabba

undone aspen
#

heh

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Heh, I'd love to do my yard mowing with a riding lawn mower, I think.

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A nice John Deer, a cool straw hat, peach iced tea in the cup holder, mmmm. πŸ™‚

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I'd say beer, but, I don't drink beer, and scotch, just isn't a drink you drink and use such... equipment... with. πŸ™‚

clever mortar
#

Cider? Mead?

undone aspen
#

Hmmmm.. Cider would work.

#

Mead is a bit strong, done right,.

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Heh, now if I had a riding mower, too, I could do the trimming work in the front yard first, switch to riding, using that to rest with, then do the trimming in the back yard accordingly. My ex-wife obviously wasn't thinking when she denied me to get a riding mower. heh

clear ferry
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I only have 800mΒ² of land, so a riding mower wouldn't be much use

undone aspen
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I have a 1/2 acre, with more yard than house/structure.

clever mortar
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I have little enough that a cordless lawnmower does the job ...

clear ferry
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I have an electric mower

undone aspen
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heh

clear ferry
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Two batteries suffice to do it

undone aspen
#

I have gas mower, gas trimmer/hedger/edger/saw, gas blower.

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And that... was all the ex-wife's idea. At least she got the backback blower, and not just the handheld one.

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And the trimmer was my idea, to get one with multiple attachments and 4-cycle.

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In electric, however, I have a pressure washer.

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And a secondary blower, a ryobi electric blower.

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Good enough for roof work. πŸ™‚

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So, for calculation. 1/2 acre is 2023m2

clever mortar
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If I have 10% of that I'd be slightly surprised... the "joys" of UK property

undone aspen
#

heh

fathom sparrow
#

How big are the lots?

clever mortar
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Modern lots tend to be pretty small - house + not much

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Typically about 2 meters wider than then house, and whatever they can get away with for the depth - between 5 and 10 meters usually

undone aspen
#

yeah, UK has limited land to work with, in comparison, so I do get that.

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Wow.

clever mortar
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Older houses are more likely to have decent gardens

undone aspen
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So, dogs wouldn't get to run around much.

clever mortar
#

Yeah, but we've got woodland about 2 minutes away, by foot (or paw)

fathom sparrow
#

Sounds like a city lot

undone aspen
#

heh3

clever mortar
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Nah, city would get you less

undone aspen
#

herhe

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Yeah.

fathom sparrow
#

I mean American city lot

undone aspen
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City lots in my city would be WAAAAAY less than a 1/2 acre for sure.

fathom sparrow
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They are about .1 to .2 acres

undone aspen
#

Exactly.

#

404m^2~809m^2 for reference.

clever mortar
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Yeah, we'd have to move much further out (and we're already not exactly near any city) or find something much older to get anything like that

last plaza
#

0.3 acres is common here

fathom sparrow
#

I have .4 and it’s a small lot

undone aspen
#

Yeah, about 1/4 acre, 0.25~0.3

last plaza
#

One of my neighbors gave us a bicycle today. It looked so dirty, I power washed it, put chain oil, grease, and cleaned it, added new handle bar grips... it looks spanking new! Now he wants it back 😝

#

Runs so smooth, great gears and breaks

undone aspen
#

LOL

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I need to figure out how to adjust my gear shifters to be better.

clear ferry
#

Common cities are probably 5-700mΒ² here, more rural cities are probably 1000-1500mΒ², and houses close to the road where I live is 2-4000mΒ², the capital is very varied, somewhere from 0-2000mΒ²

last plaza
#

I’m all set for this year... successfully started all my tools without any problem - snow blower, power washer, weed wacker, push mower and riding mower. All started without trouble. Although I may have to change oil in my riding mower as it is reaching 50 hrs of use.

#

Atx - free people don’t understand your numbers. What is it like in freedom units?

undone aspen
#

Heh, Got my trimmer and mower working at least.

#

So far., πŸ™‚

last plaza
#

If they start beginning of the year, chances are they work for the rest of the year without any troubles.

undone aspen
#

Once I at least mow the back yard for my dogs. I will try blowing off the grass/leaf debris from my driveway back into my yard.

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I can trim stuff tomorrow, my hands & wrists are resisting grasping from the first run. :/

clear ferry
#

@last plaza around five burger restaurants, three soccer mom cars and eighteen times the average muurica BMI

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Does that help?

last plaza
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Yes. That’s what we do as well. I usually cut multiple times with different height setting, so we don’t have too much grass clippings.

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@last plaza around five burger restaurants, three soccer mom cars and eighteen times the average muurica BMI
@clear ferry do you have dimensions for those soccer moms? They could be anywhere from extra large to XXXXXL πŸ˜‚

undone aspen
#

Ugh, I can't do multiple times. Back won't let me walk that much, hence the need for a riding mower. LOL

#

Alright. time for round two!

last plaza
#

@clear ferry you are missing all the joys of having HOA in Norway! Got this letter that says our house did not meet the criteria of having 9 trees in the front yard. πŸ™„

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clear ferry
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@last plaza American average, so 5 feet tall and 7 feet across?

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Also, wtf

#

You guys are afraid of socialism, but you live in very local dictatorships

last plaza
#

I know! It’s crazy. We planted total 10 now. Hope they don’t come back and say, you are only supposed to have 9!

clear ferry
#

What kind of ADD number is 9 btw?

last plaza
#

I have no idea. Who reads those HOA handbooks? 🀣

clear ferry
last plaza
#

ODC? Or OCD? 🀣🀣🀣

clear ferry
#

If someone told you what you should do with your lawn here they would be asked to kindly get.... The frenck out haha

last plaza
#

The HOA lady came over to explain the rules, and I asked her what I should eat for dinner. She was confused for a second, and then I told her as you seem to be running my house on how to live, what to plant, when to cut grass...etc, you might as well just tell me what to eat!

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Her response was, no one ever said that to her!

clear ferry
#

when should I shit madam? 5:17pm?

last plaza
#

Gave her grief, but let her go. I care less

#

Apparently 80+ houses in the neighborhood got the same letter. Everyone is so pissed. We use Nextdoor app, folks are outraged.

clear ferry
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It's acceptable to do this in neighbourhoods, but not from the government

#

Then it's my freedom

scenic radish
#

Tubthumping just came on the radio lol

#

Total banger though, ngl

clear ferry
#

How is life in 1997?

#

All I think about is FIFA whenever I hear it

scenic radish
#

@steel urchin I track HVAC stats for current day, previous day, and previous 7 days. It's gonna be hot this week so I'll have some stuff to share soon

#

I track runtime, number of cycles, and duty cycle

last plaza
#

I think of Ricky Martin when I think of FIFA.

orchid rose
#

Both pretty great, ngl

#

We're old πŸ‘΄

last plaza
#

lol. Tubthumping song is really good - especially when you listen in on noise cancelling Bose headphones.

scenic radish
#

What about on non-noise-canceling ATH-M40x?

#

gonna find out

orchid rose
#

Song 2 and It's Only Us were good songs too. Maybe FIFA still has a great soundtrack

steel urchin
#

@scenic radish nice.... i just found out my stupid input resets when HA resets :S

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scenic radish
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History stats boi

steel urchin
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so my cycles are pretty off

last plaza
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@steel urchin what input do you use? Most input components maintain state after restart.

steel urchin
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actually i'm trying to verify if i'm right or not on that statement.... it actually might be fine

last plaza
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Ok...

steel urchin
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ok nvm, it's fine... i misread my own data 🀣

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@scenic radish i also keep track of WHEN the system cools/heats for visual glances as well

last plaza
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Ending is classic! You pay what you get! 🀣

steel urchin
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back when Family Guy was tolerable

shy comet
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family guy isnt bad

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but its also not Rick and Morty

steel urchin
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it jumped the shark pretty bad imo

shy comet
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speak of the devils they are on tonight!

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i think it has its moments

steel urchin
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same for the futurama reboot

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i enjoyed Disenchantment some...

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Rick & Morty is ok... i like it alright, but it goes out into the weeds too often

last plaza
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@shy comet speaking of R&M, have you watched Solar Opposites? From Justin Roiland. Similar story line, a little bit mellowed down.

forest edge
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don't be hatin on family guy, gonna make me roll up my sleeves

shy comet
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dude i love that show

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@last plaza its so damn funny

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im looking forward to more

last plaza
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Yup. Almost done watching Season 1.

shy comet
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its like R&M meets the simpsons

last plaza
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Same here!

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lmao. They have so many hidden references in there - like duff beer...etc

shy comet
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yea they do

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did you watch the latest R&M episode from last week?

last plaza
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Not yet... no spoilers please 😊

shy comet
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ok lol

last plaza
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Will watch it tonight!

shy comet
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i have to watch certain shows the night of cuz google likes to spoil me

last plaza
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lol - same here!

shy comet
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like i odnt want to hide those articles cuzi enjoy reading them

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but at the same time i gotta remidn myself not to swipe left

undone aspen
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heh

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I...

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survived... πŸ₯΅

last plaza
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Robot Chicken brought Beavis and Butthead back, it is funny, but a very short episode.

shy comet
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really??
like a special episdoe?

undone aspen
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Now, hurry up USPS., You got 2 packages for me. A Zooz outdoor motion sensor, and rechargable batteries. Amazon Basics NiMH, and Tenavolts I decided to try out.

last plaza
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Yup. Check it out on YT.

forest edge
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zwave 🀒

last plaza
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I got packages sitting in USPS international processing center for the past 5+ weeks with no update.

shy comet
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i love updating HA and lookign at all the visual changes you immediately notice

undone aspen
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Well, for some reason, I like Zwave.

shy comet
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looks like the font in gauge card got updated

last plaza
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More animated one?

forest edge
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i love updating HA and lookign at all the visual changes you immediately notice
@shy comet does it look purty? i'm still too skered to update lol

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i may wait till .5 or .6

shy comet
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i just updated so far so good

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just need to get emulated hue fixed since theres an undocumented breaking chagne

last plaza
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I usually wait until the last minor update. Like .5 or .6

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By then, most of the screwups are fixed. I do direct production updates. Don’t want any pain.

shy comet
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i watch the milestones and wait for an updte that i like

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.2 had some frontend fixes and a stream fix

velvet horizonBOT
shy comet
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lmao

last plaza
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lol

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You can’t start a sentence with a period. Period!

undone aspen
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A woman can.

shy comet
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lol

undone aspen
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πŸ™‚

last plaza
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Tell that to her!

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🀣

steel urchin
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that reminds me, i need to get some AA batts from amazon

last plaza
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Li-ion AAs?

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@clever mortar you switched to open z-wave yet?

undone aspen
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Yes

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Li-Ion AA's. πŸ™‚

clever mortar
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Nah, I'm waiting for things to settle down @last plaza

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Also, to have half a day aside to troubleshoot any issues that arise...

steel urchin
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it's a manual switch?

clever mortar
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Because me and Z-Wave have a chaotic and turbulent history πŸ˜„

steel urchin
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i had a bitch of a time getting the controller and HA to work fully in the first place, i'm not looking to change any time soon 🀣

last plaza
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My buddy in the same neighborhood called me the other day asking for help as we had a brief power loss, and his z-wave devices show up as dead. He uses smart things. Couldn’t help him.

undone aspen
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Never had a problem with SmartThings.

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Gen3, anyway.

forest edge
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they don't make money if you never have to replace something lol

last plaza
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Not a big fan of z-wave - I tried. In fact, I had more than 40 devices. I trimmed it down to 7 or 8 now.

undone aspen
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I ordered a GoControl HUSBZB-1, however.

clever mortar
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Other than HA crashing, I've had no issues with Z-Wave itself. I am purely Z-Wave Plus though

undone aspen
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Yeah, Purely ZW+ myself.

last plaza
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Same here. Easy to restore from old working z-wave config.

undone aspen
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I'm actualy replacing all my last few Zigbee devices with ZW+

last plaza
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But the problem starts when devices show up as dead. No way to resurrect them from dead!

undone aspen
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What is "dead"?

clever mortar
last plaza
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You will see soon

clever mortar
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I've had a few dead, no issues recovering

undone aspen
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I've neve rhad a dead node to date, and been running about.... a year and a half now.

last plaza
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Hmm... that requires reading manual. I like to just do it without reading documentation 😝

undone aspen
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Heh, I keep all my manuals, at least one copy per device. Just in case.

clever mortar
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I've had more issues with dead Zigbee devices than Z-Wave ones 🀷

forest edge
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that is no suprise

undone aspen
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If I can find the digital version, I throw the paper one in the trash and put the digital one on disk.

last plaza
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I should ship all my z-wave devices to you @clever mortar

undone aspen
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Yeah, paper to disk! Great idea!

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Sure the magnetic head will love that. 🀣

last plaza
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Let me know if there is a PO Box address I should ship to.

undone aspen
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heh

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I like testing Z-wave device. I mean, I had a bunch of Aeotec ones I returned.

dull chasm
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@clever mortar you have had more dead that zigbee......just saying

last plaza
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When zigbee dies, they become zombies

forest edge
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any cheap Chinese electronic device ultimately has a mind of it's own and dosen't care to respond to your commands

last plaza
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lol - we never see one zombie! There has to be a ton of them! πŸ˜‚

forest edge
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we don't see the reanimated movement cause it all happens in the shadows while it contacts home using @scenic radish phone and causing him an obscene long distance bill

last plaza
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1-900 numbers? 🀣

undone aspen
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heh

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I'm simply likely to just re-setup some, or all of my stuff through zwave2mqtt, so it's more versatile. πŸ™‚

shy comet
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wow HA restarts really fast now thats nice

undone aspen
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Not if you have HACS and Ring integrations. πŸ™‚

shy comet
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i have both of those lol

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and it restarts faster for me

undone aspen
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Without those, it would start in 15 seconds.

shy comet
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hmm now to decide if i want to go through and replace my template conditions with the new not condition

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oh well i didnt time it

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but it was faster than im used to lol

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even first boot was faster for me

undone aspen
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heh, I'm seriously pondering removing the ring integration itself, and just using node-red+homebridge for that end of things. At least I can reverse engineer it, literally.

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The hacs, I could possibly remove, and continue to manually update alexa_media_player via git as I have been doing.

shy comet
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i have 5 devices with ring and i find it works really well

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hacs is a nice to have but i keep it around since it helps me to discover custom cards and stuff

undone aspen
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I have 7 camera based devices. And the support for them, in HASS, is utter putrid crap.

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They "work", but only just barely, and they don't give you everything.

shy comet
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what isnt working?

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you get the ring notifications

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and motion

undone aspen
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Sirens, On all devices. Cameras, live feeds. 2-way audio in HomeKit.

shy comet
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you cant get mad about features taht havent been added yet

undone aspen
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hell, AUDIO at all, in homeKit. πŸ™‚

shy comet
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audio doesnt exist in HA at all actually

undone aspen
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I sure can. Homebridge has had these features for months.

shy comet
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only video straem

undone aspen
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Some of them anyway.

shy comet
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homebridge is not HA different devs

undone aspen
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I know. πŸ™‚

shy comet
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what siren isnt working?

undone aspen
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Which is why I split the difference, and rely on Homebridge more for Ring, and HASS for everything else.

shy comet
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i helped out a bit with Ring

forest edge
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you want all the bells and whistles with no issues in open source lol

undone aspen
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HASS only supports the Floodlight Cam siren. The Stick-Up cams it does not.

shy comet
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the new stick up cams?

undone aspen
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Both Indoor only and Indoor/Outdoor models.

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They've been around for a while.

shy comet
undone aspen
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Sure,.

last plaza
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hmm now to decide if i want to go through and replace my template conditions with the new not condition
@shy comet what do you mean new NOT condition?

shy comet
last plaza
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lol. They are convenient, but I will never use them 🀣 so easy to use template conditions.

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Guess they are created for UI support.

green inlet
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For all you docker experts. What can I add to my docker-compose so that the docker doesn’t automatically start on boot?

clever mortar
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Sounds like the start option

green inlet
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πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

clever mortar
green inlet
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Ok. That makes sense. The πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈwas in my end 🀣. Then I understand that if you ssh into your host and manually start it, you have to do it a specific way so that you can exit out of ssh and keep it running. Is that up vs start?

clever mortar
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yes

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up -d starts detached

green inlet
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Which is what you want so it will stay running

clever mortar
scenic radish
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Also, in general, adding & to the end of a command makes it run in the background

clever mortar
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At least until you exit the shell

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Otherwise you need a nohup

last plaza
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If you want the Docker to start automatically, better to use the restart option. The -d option is good for troubleshooting and running locally for testing.

clever mortar
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Well, better to use a compose file IMO

green inlet
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Yes, I installed the qt-openzwave docker on a spare pi though. I only have 2 zwave sticks and 3 HAss instances. The openzwave install in the one that won’t have a zwave stick so for now I don’t want the docker to start and crash because there is no stick

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I am on the right track correct?

last plaza
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Why 2 zwave sticks?

scenic radish
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@clever mortar good to know, how TF have I never noticed that

green inlet
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Backup πŸ˜‰

last plaza
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Not gonna comment.

green inlet
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🀣. I have a second HAss instance for when I am playing with my production install

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My house is ALWAYS ALIVE 🀣

last plaza
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Whatever tickles you 😝

green inlet
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Well, with the new zwave, it more than likely won’t be needed

forest edge
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my grandpappy use to always say, the smarter a house is now, the more dead it is when things break

last plaza
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Waiting for the day when you don’t need zwave at all 😎

forest edge
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it will just be some other proprietary hunk of junk. people can't make money if they can't lock lemmings into an ecosystem that serves them lol

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which sucks, cause the new wifi mesh system will likely be something that forces you to buy crap you don't want for it to work

last plaza
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no mesh system is helping me with my mail box automation

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the mail box is too far, and when the sensor is inside metal box, nothing works!

green inlet
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Ok so restart: no and the container still start on boot

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How far is your box

forest edge
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@last plaza can't you just use a magnetic reed and bury the low vvoltage wire in the yard?

last plaza
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about 50+ feet

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that's an option - that means I need to run wire underground and under concrete walkway - which will be a pain in the arse

green inlet
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Ouch. I need to measure mine .... don’t think it is that far, and it struggles at times

forest edge
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maybe, you would be surprise how easy it is to push a straighten metal coat hanger through dirt is lol

last plaza
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that would be a good project for someday, but not today πŸ˜›

forest edge
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yea for spring, we're going into summer

undone aspen
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Ughm, and I still have one outdoor camera to put up and wire up through the soffit, and around into the garage. heh

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At least the access to the attic, is right inside the garage. heh

narrow rune
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hello guys, I have setup konnected alarm panel v2 at my place with 6 zones. I'm having issues with wiring siren. I followed Konnected documentation to wire Siren but the moment I turn on Konnected panel, siren goes live. None of the zones have pin status changed. Any suggestions?

green inlet
narrow rune
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thanks much. new to this community. pardon my ignorance. πŸ™‚

green inlet
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It’s all good

clever mortar
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Worth reading the channel topics πŸ˜‰

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Look at the top of the window

undone aspen
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Whaaaaat? There's channel topics?

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lol

narrow rune
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lol.. reading them now. Thanks @clever mortar

undone aspen
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Heh, funny, I'm working on my subflows for my sirens now. πŸ™‚

last plaza
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Worth reading the channel topics and documentation πŸ˜‰

narrow rune
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@undone aspen awesome. I'm newbie in terms of home-automation.. please let me know if you are looking at any specific documents to build your subflows

undone aspen
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Oh, no, this is all node-red stuff. I've got an input that checks msg.payload, and using a switch to massively turn on or off all sirens in the subflow. And pass input on to output straight for other potential purposes. πŸ™‚

late gate
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bought a bunch of those cheap sonoff cameras that @slim vortex tested. they work suprisingly well to be so cheap. cant compare to the house cameras, but for inside stuff they work well

fluid parcel
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Hey Guys... Can someone please help me with a link or something because i've been google'ing for a while and cant find what i need...: I have a capacative touch sensor wired to an ESPhome and that works fine for turning on and of relays... But if i want to control brightness on a light with holding down on the sensor... Is that not possible?

undone aspen
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Oh dang, already a new update.

clever mortar
fluid parcel
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@clever mortar Thanks mate...

clever mortar
late gate
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@undone aspen update had no issues for me at least so should be relative safe.

undone aspen
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Alriiiight! USPS delivered correctly today! :d

late gate
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that remind me I got a DHL bill today with fees higher than the value of the item

undone aspen
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I am utterly surprised DHL even still exists.

late gate
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yeah. ordered from mouser, components, and they carged like 10 usd pr item cause they had different origin and they charge "pr line"

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so it ended up with 120usd in line fees plus 50usd in handling fee

undone aspen
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Mouser, is good stuff. πŸ™‚

late gate
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and the mouser bill was 35usd

undone aspen
#

So, Tenavolts Li-Ion AA rechargable batteries. Needs a pry bar to open it. Comes with a 6" USB to micro USB cable. no charging adapter to plug it into to the wall.

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So, that alone, is bad, (*though I knew that, but still)

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And, you need 2A output for full charging capability. 500mA per battery. heh

shy comet
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gotta love wifi interference issues with ESP devices 😦 one day and its fine then randomly it decides to play connect/disconnect loop for a few hours lol

undone aspen
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Well, that depends on your WiFi.

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I have UniFI AP Lite's ceiling-mounted in two places in my house. I /stopped/ having WiFi issues once I did that. πŸ™‚

shy comet
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i have 2 of those ceiling mounted as well

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teh device is like 20 ft from the router

undone aspen
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Router?

shy comet
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im assuming cuz it happens at random times during the day its some neighbor device

wet pilot
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Time for some channel tuning?

shy comet
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edgeourter x

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tried that the other day

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what ended up working better was adjusting output_power in esphome

undone aspen
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ERX, okay. And how may UAP's do you have?

shy comet
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i got 2 AC lites

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one thats 20 ft away

wet pilot
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Probably some neighbor's POS wap picking a dumb channel

shy comet
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thats waht im thinking

undone aspen
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OKay. Are you on opposite channel bands on each UAP?

shy comet
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cuz it was good all night

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yea different channels

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cuz i have 2 APs i usually pick eitehr 1, 6 or 11

undone aspen
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But, are they on totally opposite ends of the channel? 1 and 11?

shy comet
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yea 1 and 11

undone aspen
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Good. πŸ™‚

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Yeah, beyond that, it's possibly as phnx said, rogue AP's (your neighbor's)

wet pilot
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1 and 6 or 6 and 11 are also fine

shy comet
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yea thats what iw as thinknig after i beat my head around it all night the other night

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if i bring it like 10 ft closer its fine but at the pool its iffy

wet pilot
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2.4 GHz 🀒

shy comet
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yea i just want to know the water temp of teh pool lol

wet pilot
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The spec for that frequency is garbage

shy comet
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yea what i dont get was changing output power from default 20db to 17.5 db worked lol

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but i saw someoen mention that in an issue at esphome so i figured why not try it lol

wet pilot
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So there's a fun thing where your ap might be powerful enough to get out there but the end device isn't powerful enough to talk back

shy comet
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lol im about to use a input number to keep track of the last actual value

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yea thats what i figured

late gate
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at least turn off fast roaming as many devices have issues with it

shy comet
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yea i think thats off by default on unifi

wet pilot
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If you turn down that ap strength it just forces the end device to disconnect

hearty depot
#

Got grandpa a STRX-RX570 because the PC i gave him only had a Display port.
Aperantly the thing was "broken" - just screw'd it in.. running fine... who had guessed..

late gate
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the 2.4 issue is what we get when the vendors ship out the routers with 40 band and full power

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I always have some kind of issues with esp etc

shy comet
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do they even have a 5ghz esp?

late gate
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not that I know

scenic radish
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Might not want one anyway because of range

late gate
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then you have those who think its so fun buying 20 esp and flood the bands

shy comet
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i mean i guess i could try a pi zero but takes the fun awy from using esphome lol

late gate
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I had more luck with the original esp32 compared to the clones

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better antenna tracing

shy comet
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that was one solution i saw soldering a wifi antenna lol

undone aspen
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Yeah, I like my ESP32's I have. πŸ™‚

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Made one killer custom garage door mod to make my older dump garage door into a smart door. Actually think it was better than the myQ garbage I have now.

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I even had it report on interruption when the door sensors triggered a re-open.

late gate
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I only use 32 now as the price is not that different

undone aspen
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Exactly.,

late gate
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and much better for sensors than esp

clear ferry
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You guys and your WiFi problems, I've never had WiFi issues at home the last 20 years, when I have to do channel tuning on 1000+ ap deployments though haha

undone aspen
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So, Zooz outdoor motion sensor, so far, so good. With custom device-handler, still doesn't report ALL stats, but reports only the ones I care about,. Motion, and battery. Tamper is useful.

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I've visited my neighbors and got them to fix their WiFi interference issues, because when I got my UAP Lite's I blasted theirs to death to make a point. πŸ˜„

shy comet
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hahah

undone aspen
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I was like. "Can you tune your WiFi to specs I suggest so that as neighbors we can have better in-home WiFi together? πŸ˜‰

hearty depot
undone aspen
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"A shipment will arive today, including battery"

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Thanks.... Alexa....

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Awww, son of a bit...... Amazon Basics batteries show "Made in China, on the box.

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Yep., These are going back. I ordered the green with black tips, made in Japan, not this garbage.

late gate
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@clear ferry I guess some is just lucky it seems. And with esp its much about where they source them. of course when you get a clone with covered antenna tracing it will impact the signal. But I would not be suprised if the wifi stack on the esp got some bugs as when someone use an esp its always a lot of issues unless the wifi is perfect

clear ferry
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I'm new with esps, but no issues so far with any of them

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But I've never had issues with much interference from neighbours either on wifi

undone aspen
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Sigh, and shakes fist at Amazon. I will NOT accept your chinese crap batteries.

late gate
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I started just doing daily automatic reboots of the esp projects. that solves a lot of problems

clear ferry
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Batteries I replace so seldom, I frankly don't care about the quality, if it is 2 years or 3 years, I don't care

undone aspen
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Rechargable batteries made in China, don't last long.

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The ones from Amazon Basics reported to be made in China, don't last much longer past 2 charging cycles, which is horrible.

clear ferry
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Haven't used rechargeable ones since.... The 90s

undone aspen
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That's sad. I prefer rechargables, and haven't bought batteries in YEARS. πŸ™‚

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My former roommate, unfortunately, seems to have stolen about half my battery supply, which pisses me off.

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I had 24 Tenergy batteries, which those, were actually decent. I have EBL's left and my REAAAALLY old Energizer ones that are on their last legs of life./

tidal bronze
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@clear ferry if I am switching NUCs (different gens) running ESXI what's the best way

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Can the boot NVME move over or reinstall esxi and restore vm backups ?

clear ferry
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Where are the vms stored? Local drive?

undone aspen
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Booya,. Amazon's refunding me the money for my chinese batteries with no return needed.

tidal bronze
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Backup vms are on synology.

clear ferry
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If the primary datastore is the local drive I would just try to move that over, should probably be fine, if the primary storage is outside the host just install the second host, then power off VM on primary and add it on the second host and power on, as I expect you don't have vmotion licenses