Nobody said that
#the-water-cooler
hearty depot
Well look at that openstack image ❤️
brazen fable
I'm curious what music everyone listens to
brisk glen
I think my neighbor is a drug dealer
and Im capturing all of his deals on my new camera....
scenic radish
🎉
scenic radish
Yeah...would not recommend lol
clear ferry
I love that you pick perfect places to live @brisk glen
scenic radish
Yikes
undone aspen
Hmmm there we go.
proper oriole
Has anyone managed to fling an audio stream at a chromecast device? I have defined a script to do it, but nothing happens on the google home
scenic radish
amber bramble
yay my water heater started leaking 🙃
proper oriole
Tediore: Gotcha, ta
undone aspen
Quick, plug it with some scotch tape!
scenic radish
The water softener told it about your shenanigans @amber bramble
wet pilot
@proper oriole what kind of stream?
undone aspen
Ugh, I need to replace my water heater. Needed to 3 years ago. LOL
amber bramble
@scenic radish haha I actually wouldn't be surprised if it was leaking because there's not enough lime in the water to keep it sealed now that its soft
proper oriole
phnx: Its an m3u file (internet radio)
wet pilot
i got one working once but it was kindof a pain and i don't remember what i did
proper oriole
lol no worries
shy comet
i send a m3u link myself
proper oriole
dshokouhi: You can cast .m3u to a chrome device?
shy comet
i turn on KROQ when we are in teh shower 😛
yea you can play them on it as long as you have a valid URL
proper oriole
Thats awesome, thank you. I'll have a go. I've tried the audio being set to mp4 before, but will try again
shy comet
the trick is to find the actual stream depending on where you are getting them from that is
ive had my URL fail before so had to regenerate it from a desktop i thnk its from radio.com lol
velvet horizonBOT
scenic radish
😛
proper oriole
I'm doing something simple and silly I have no doubt. I'm a newb
The stream URL is definitely fine tho. I put it into a browser and it plays nicely
shy comet
lets move to #automations-archived if you stil need help
undone aspen
Wait.. No politics or religion? Why am I even here? 🤣 (kidding)
scenic radish
kicked
undone aspen
hehe
scenic radish
|| @forest edge 🐡 ||
limpid wind
Hi Guys buying some led strips, what do I need to look out for to look for ''quality'' ones, Intrested on some of those features to do diffrent colors on each led ect later on
clear ferry
undone aspen
Okay.. Jelle's Marble Runs.. Is pretty freaking awesome.
limpid wind
Definitely not, intrested in buying better but not sure what to look out for
fading zodiac
Philips
limpid wind
I want some of the effect that has diffrent leds on the same strip
limpid wind
defo phillips but thats pricey I think these do whatI want and not too pricey - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Govee-Brighter-Changing-Waterproof-Controlled/dp/B07QDL56TM/ref=sr_1_1?crid=MYOJOD6O9W7R&dchild=1&keywords=govee+dream+color&qid=1589912862&sprefix=govee+dream+%2Caps%2C199&sr=8-1
fading zodiac
I am not sure if they support multii led
limpid wind
second picture shows a music mode with diffrent colors so I assume so
limpid wind
hmmmm think he might just be a numpty surely, loads of other reviews with pictures of people showing them
fading zodiac
Well
limpid wind
iphone user? 😄
limpid wind
what do you mean a mode?, it can do a few preset things and thats it you mean?
limpid wind
I don't want to get too fancy with custom actions, its for a garden bar you see, just a few presets modes is good enough to show off to guests ect
rain lintel
hey I have a questions. So whats the deal with HACS and its relation to the rest of the official HA stuff? Are users generally discouraged from using it?
wet pilot
un-official integrations that may or may not be stable or follow the best practices of HA
light trout
It's custom so yes
rain lintel
does stuff from HACS ever make it into HA if it works well and has enough community support (in terms of wanting to have it mainlined, not in terms of technical support) behind it?
light trout
HACS itself will never be in core, repositories you install with HACS can if the dev care enough might end up in core eventually.
Sometimes HACS is even used to test changes to integrations before/during the PR prosess
amber bramble
we did that with the new zwave component
put it in hacs as a pre-release to get some feedback and testing before starting to merge it into core
clever mortar
Some devs don't want to deal with the "hassle" of getting it official, so only produce custom components
For cards... there's far more card options than will ever be in the official release
light trout
Yeah, there are also a number of integrations that never would be accepted in core
That does not mean they are bad, they could just be something that HA does not agree with, having a custom option is perfect in those situations
Sooo @rain lintel did that answer your question?
scenic radish
The mayor is here??
light trout
Looks like they bolted
scenic radish
clear ferry
scenic radish
Actual 100%
scenic radish
Making coffee, anyone want some
brisk glen
holy shit chrome... not even open and you were using 5 of my CPU cores at 100%
google is pure evil
wet pilot
sounds like you have bad extensions
scenic radish
Sounds like you don't have enough extensions
brisk glen
lol
amber bramble
tbh chrome is getting pretty bad lately
undone aspen
Getting?
brisk glen
there is something wrong with the web when it takes 10x more cpu use than a linux vm running docker containers
undone aspen
CPU/RAM wise, Chrome is and always has been the worst.
brisk glen
home assistant sits at like 2.1% of a core
wet pilot
part of that is because of the sandboxing decision
brisk glen
with nginx etc
wet pilot
nginx is pretty lightweight on its own
HA is pretty light on cpu in most cases
its using ~300M of memory though
shy comet
unless you plan on running tensorflow lol
wet pilot
nginx is using none cpu and 200k of memory 😄
brisk glen
doods soon 😛
amber bramble
eh. Chrome used to be "lightweight"
undone aspen
No, it didn't.
amber bramble
I switched to Chrome because Firefox had all kinds of memory leak issues
now the tables have turned and I think Firefox uses less resources
undone aspen
Chrome was never lightweight, from the get-go. It was just more secure than firefox by milestones.
Firefox does actually use less resources. It still can crawl up there, but, it's a lot slower.
To do so./
clear ferry
I switched to Firefox a year ago, even my 48GB laptop thanks me
undone aspen
heh
yep. I switched back when Firefox Aurora came out, with the newer sandboxing they implemented came out.
clear ferry
dull chasm
@last dirge thats a yard ? looks like a patch of grass 😂
last plaza
@last dirge our yard - just mowed two days ago, it’s been raining a lot, so time to mow again!
We’ve got some patches here and there, have put grass seeds and starter fertilizer. Hopefully by end of next week they will start to grow.
Still haven’t planted vegetables or flowers yet. Maybe this weekend.
@last dirge love the black Tesla in the driveway. You can use that as a surveillance station and record videos from all sides. 😊
last plaza
Looks black in the picture 😝
last dirge
@dull chasm I've not got much yard at all in the front due to the fruit trees and the beds around the utilities
dull chasm
i noticed ...but figured yall city slickers had diff standards for yard size
last plaza
Usually front yards are small.
last dirge
I've only got about a third of an acre
dull chasm
mine is small compared to our standards as well
last dirge
my back yard's much bigger, but it's half covered by the deck
last plaza
mine is small compared to our standards as well
@dull chasm that’s what she said 🤣
dull chasm
lol 5 acres
last plaza
But you got big guns 💪
dull chasm
so mine is bigger 🤣
dull chasm
too much way too much
fading zodiac
Nighty folks
last plaza
Really? Cheaper where you live?
dull chasm
yes 5k per acrea
last plaza
I’ve always wanted to buy like 25 acres. Once kids are off to college, maybe I will move into a smaller house with bigger backyard
$5k per acre is way too low... don’t think I can find that here!
dull chasm
gotta get off them city streets
dull chasm
from main road i am 15 minuts ....main hwy to parish rd to old asphalt then gravel for 1000 ft or so
last plaza
Not bad at all! Buy an ATV, you can have all the fun in the yard.
dull chasm
yep
last plaza
NUC 8 is on sale!
tough igloo
That’s like a million Australian dollarydoos
last plaza
lol and a billion in Japanese yen 😆
@tough igloo what happened to the red color you had for your name?
Ran out of juice?
tough igloo
I no longer have discord nitro ☹️
last plaza
I don’t get the concept of nitro anyway.
last plaza
You pay, and you get animated images and emoji powers?
tough igloo
And you can boost a server that achieves??
unreal orbit
It's more like a donation with benefits
last plaza
I’m sure 12 yr old gamer kids will love them.
tough igloo
Anyway I felt special for a little while
last plaza
lol
tough igloo
Plus it matched my name 🤣
last plaza
@unreal orbit what you are you up to these days? Anything fun?
unreal orbit
Mostly same old same old, nothing too exciting
last plaza
Yeah... time to upgrade my HA. I do it every other release these days. Can’t keep up.
unreal orbit
I try to do at least every other. Don't want to get too far behind on breaking changes (even though I haven't been affected by one in probably 20 updates)
last plaza
I still got one HA instance running 0.56 version. 😊
It works as long as I don’t update it.
unreal orbit
I did just switch my Zwave network to zwave2mqtt so I don't have to fear restarting HA anymore
last plaza
Sweet!
unreal orbit
life has been 💯 x better
last plaza
Run it in Docker?
unreal orbit
Yup! I've got pretty much all my services containerized at this point
last plaza
Nice! I got both going on.
unreal orbit
I was in the venv camp for quite a while before I got used to using docker
Now I'm very comfortable with it
Definitely not a wizard, but I can get by alright
last plaza
Yeah... Docker is cool. Extremely easy!
unreal orbit
Especially for dev environments. I was bummed that zwave2mqtt doesn't really have a good dev environment setup with docker
I'm not comfortable enough to make my own images yet 😅
unreal orbit
True, I'm planning on giving it a shot soon
steel urchin
making docker images is super simple
it's almost literally just shell commands, and adding any files you need within the image... often you can grab them at build time using wget and untar/zip or install through a package manager, and voila!
unreal orbit
Let me rephrase, I'm not comfortable enough to modify a Dockerfile that's doing things I don't recognize (specifically the zwave2mqtt image)
I've made basic images
marsh creek
Hi all, I would like to upgrade my Home Assistant Core from 101.3 to the latest release. I've gone through all breaking changes and I'm OK with them. Should I install some intermediate release before?
shy comet
go for it but if you need support be sure to visit the proper installation channel 🙂
scenic radish
question Home Assistant, Home Assistant Supervised {
proxy_pass supervised
}
question Docker, venv {
proxy_pass alternative
}
or more apropos:
goto_room:
{%- set supWords = ["Supervised", "Home Assistant"] -%}
{%- set altWords = ["docker", "venv"] -%}
{%- set question = states('sensor.question') -%}
{%- if question in supWords -%}
\#supervised
{%- elif question in altWords -%}
\#alternative
{%- else -%}
\#other
{%- endif -%}
but much uglier 🤣
scenic radish
Lol
I was pretending that we're just a reverse proxy to direct people to the right channel
shy comet
lol
scenic radish
Has some real COVID vibes
Favorite band of all time
This song is a total banger too
scenic radish
Panic station is one of the weirdest and funniest music videos I've ever seen
forest edge
you young people are weird
wild grove
fight!
scenic radish
no u
wild grove
did you ever find a router that works?
undone aspen
Hmmmmm..
Well, Wyze Cam vs Ring Cam. Ring definitely beats the living snot out of Wyze, in every aspect of quality.
forest edge
cept price
undone aspen
I said quality. 🙂
Price, yeah, Wyze wins, but it sucks at integration. It sucks at streaming. It sucks at playback. It sucks at night vision. And.. Well, it's barely usable.
wild grove
it can be local though
undone aspen
I've got a Ring Doorbell Pro, Flood Light Cam, 3 Stick-Up Indoor/Outdoor Cams (2 setup so far), 1 Indoor Stick-Up Cam, and quality, is freaking out of this world.
undone aspen
@shy comet Definitely can agree with that.
forest edge
Price, yeah, Wyze wins, but it sucks at integration. It sucks at streaming. It sucks at playback. It sucks at night vision. And.. Well, it's barely usable.
@undone aspen you are certianly using it wrong lol
shy comet
i started out with a gen 1 for 180 way back when
they charged me $20 to upgrade to gen 2
undone aspen
I've had my Ring doorbell replaced by them because the doorbell I bought, died.
They didn't even charge me, they replaced it, then sent me 2 new ones, (one I had to return, newer one had finned backplate)
forest edge
i like m,y little 20 buck HD 20fps with nightvision and spot on motion detection camera
undone aspen
My doorbell cam faces the evening sun, so it gets hot. 🙂
But yeah. Can't do local, but you can use them for sirens, you can access them, video is always offsite, they have battery backup options, and security screws to help prevent tampering. And, their video quality, you can actually SEE, most especially, in pitch black, you can still see faces, in detail.
The Wyze Cam, you could see, if they were close enough to the camera,. but if they were close enough to the camera, detail was washed out by white bounce-back from the IR emitters.
forest edge
I don't have those issues
undone aspen
Not on the Ring cameras. 🙂
forest edge
i think it's user error 😋
undone aspen
It's not. :p
I've got 4 Wyze Cams setup right now, all with SD cards, connected to motionEye for onsite/offsite recording of my own, RTSP firmware installed. And, the integrations.... Suck.
IFTTT, really? No. Just no.
forest edge
yea well if your using the official firmware that is likely your issue lol
undone aspen
May not be ideal, but rings integration in hass is not perfect, but I can trigger the siren, light (if it has one), and read motion events that the camera's emit (via cloud api, not local, and somewhat delayed)
Well, official beta firmware for the RTSP.
Firmware, however, cannot fix camera quality.
shy comet
rings integration has been improved a lot
undone aspen
Firmware also cannot fix night time quality issues. 🙂
shy comet
im wating on my PR to get accepted to request real time snapshots
undone aspen
@shy comet Yeah, I can't wait for the ring integration, within HASS itself, to have the Alarm Modes added in. Homebridge has it, so HASS isn't far behind I hope.
undone aspen
Oooh, nice!
shy comet
someone has to add the alarm modes to this library
or we need to use another, but ideally this library
forest edge
no offense @undone aspen i experience 0 of any of the issues you have and had mine setup for months now
undone aspen
Yeah, with a Z-Wave motion sensor, something like that you could predictively tell the cameras to take snapshots. 😄
@forest edge Just because you don't understand the difference first hand, doesn't mean it's not a problem. 😄
shy comet
i just want a snapshot when thye detect motion lol
forest edge
well then
undone aspen
I mean, do you have any other cameras to compare against? 😉
forest edge
lots but i don't compare a 20 buck camera to high price stuff but in your case since you are comparing a ring which has worst night vision than my amcrest doorbell (as shown in plenty of reviews) I say my wyze night vision is better than my amcrest
every statement you said about the wyze is flat out wrong,
if your havving issues, you did something wrong
my only issue current issue with my wyze is placement, cause the ir bounces off the side of my siding which blands out the picture alittle
undone aspen
‼️ Alert ‼️ Alert ‼️ Someone is wrong.... on the internet. 🙂
forest edge
lol well if it can work for one person, it works for all
undone aspen
Not necessarily true, actually.
forest edge
I don't run official firmware so maybe that's your issue
undone aspen
And yet you say I'm the one doing it wrong? 🙂
undone aspen
They work, and for what they are, and for their price tag, they work well, considering, no doubt about all that at all. 🙂
Their cameras, however, stream a bit jerky, are a bit grainier than I'd like, and their night vision tends to over compensate. That's just technology, and factual details.
undone aspen
I've run mine at varied resolutions, all with the same effect.
forest edge
official uses some kind of upscaled 320 resoultion
undone aspen
Ugh.. Really?
forest edge
yup
undone aspen
Well, that could explain the quality issues right there.
forest edge
it's cause it has to do motion edetection and other stuff, it's a 20 buck camera
undone aspen
Well, $25. 🙂
forest edge
moving off official allows you to dump the bloat and set things how you want
undone aspen
What firmware are you using? After I get the new ring cameras fully mounted (backward outside is the last one, requires attic run for power), I'm going to take some of the Wyze cam's and see what I can possibly do better.
forest edge
look up dafang
undone aspen
Ahh that one?
You loose the ability to use the Wyze app when using a firmware like that, yes?
forest edge
yes
undone aspen
Do you have to then use the Chinese MI app?
undone aspen
Hmmm
forest edge
dafang makes it a local only
shy comet
as long as you can use it via RTSP your golden
undone aspen
RTSP, yeah, motionEye. And Homebridge Homekit camera integration.
tame parrot
Haii there, i am kind of new here, don't have anything yet to make this work, i came from Homey but tbh i don't like it anymore, so i want an alternative, can Home Assistant do everything Homey can? 😮
undone aspen
Never heard of Homey.
tame parrot
ohhhh
undone aspen
But, HA can do anything.
You can even design your HA to try to takeover the world, every night!
tame parrot
its an expensive device to automate your home basically with scripts users create and install on the device for others
so, i need a Pi for it to work right?, if i knew earlier i never had to buy homey, lol
undone aspen
No.
tame parrot
ohhhh
tame parrot
but my computer has to be on for it to work right
undone aspen
Well, of course. The computer you put it on has to be on, obviously.
tame parrot
hmmm, i rather use an external device then, my coimputer is on much, but i don't want to rely on it
i want to put WOL on it too, and that might not work when my computer is off i guess
undone aspen
Well, I said /a computer/, not YOUR computer. 😉
undone aspen
This /computer/ could be an RPI3/4, Intel Atom (More recommended for power), Laptop, etc.
tame parrot
ohhhh
i'm sorry, i missunderstood
whats an intel atom? i don't think i heard of that
undone aspen
Google's your friend 😉
undone aspen
Worth the price for what you get.
tame parrot
its basically a mini pc right
undone aspen
Basically.
Ahhh, Homey.
Common comments. It's slow, laggy, closed, and not as powerful as HASS.
tame parrot
haha, so you know now, XD
undone aspen
Keep in mind though, Homey does something. Z-Wave, Zigbee, and other protocol support, HASS, you'd need a Zigbee and/or Z-Wave module/USB to integrate with those.
undone aspen
Correct. Doesn't look like HASS supports using the Homey for such devices.
tame parrot
gladly i don't have any yet so i might be able to do that first before i buy stuff to let it work, XD
undone aspen
You can get native on HASS, (USB, module/component, etc), or bridge other integrations in, like I still use my Samsung SmartThings HUB for some things.
Z-Wave and ZigBee, for me, is still on the SmartThings HUB for the time being.
undone aspen
You can. You have to pay $5/mo for Nabu Cloud to integrate with Alexa and/or Google Assistant.
You can also use it's native voice assistant, Almond I believe?
tame parrot
you need to pay to use google assistant?
undone aspen
To integrate with, yes.
tame parrot
oof
sacred jackal
you can do it without
tame parrot
so, any recommendations for a intel atom? do i need to look for any specific specs?
wet pilot
@undone aspen false
sacred jackal
you can add google assistant without the subscription, or at least you could, just need to expose home assistant to the internet with an TLS cert
wet pilot
You do not need to pay for Google or Alexa integrations
tame parrot
oh, do u do not need it, lol
undone aspen
True,.
it's a PITA I didn't/don't want to deal with, and the Nabu cloud supports development, and so I'm all for that,
tame parrot
i don't mind paying to support, but i think Home Assistant is confusing or difficuld to use
unreal orbit
Which part is confusing you?
tame parrot
i have no clue, lol
undone aspen
Just keep in mind, this particular channel isn't for HASS support. 🙂
unreal orbit
Well answering that question would be a good place to start
undone aspen
"Don't have it" doesn't mean you're not asking support. :p
fathom sparrow
it's not going to be like homey or smart things. It'll take a level of commitment that is a bit higher than those platforms. But in the end you aren't tied to a cloud service and you can easily replace any part of your system without having to worry about companies discontinuing it.
undone aspen
Yep. 😄
That's the big thing about HA. Integrations, opensource, community, and portability.
tame parrot
hmmm, thats true, but i'm worried that its to diffuculd for me to let it work, or put the things on i want but never work, lol
undone aspen
I moved my HASS from an RPi4 to a Laptop, without issue. 🙂
tame parrot
idk if you need to code, i can't code, XD
unreal orbit
You don't need to code. The most you'd have to do is configure
undone aspen
And learn YAML. 🙂
tame parrot
YAML?
unreal orbit
It's the markup language HA uses for configuration
fathom sparrow
you can use node-red. Its like flow charts
undone aspen
Yet Another Markup Language.
undone aspen
heh.
tame parrot
homey uses flows, so i think he speaks my language now, lol
undone aspen
My Node-Red Flows are pretty..... extensive.
tame parrot
so, better to get a Pi or that intel atom thingy?
unreal orbit
A dedicated computer will be more reliable than a pi, but it requires extra steps and know-how
undone aspen
Motion/Contact triggers a check of the virtual alarm system which if armed, sends off a delayed timer to the alarm system that will eventually trigger a series of sirens and Echos speaking "You are being watched. You are being recorded. Get out of my house!" And the minigun poping out of the ceiling and targetting the intruder. 😄
tame parrot
oof
unreal orbit
There are guides to help you either way though
tame parrot
thats good, i like guides, lol
dull chasm
@tame parrot start simple with a pi ...learn to install software ....you probably have things that you can control tvs ....avrs and etc .... dont worry about the chatter of what you can do start with what you learn and build from there
tame parrot
so a pi is good enough?
dull chasm
to start yes and gives room for expansion but can get underpowered depending on what you what .... but it will take you awhile unless you spend a lot of time and money
tame parrot
what takes a while?
dull chasm
that depends on you ...how much you add ...totally subjective ... i have a pi running a 150 gallon fishtank and has been for years.....lighting....pumps ....water changes ...feeding times and etc ... over 700 entities ...automations sensors and etc
tame parrot
oh, cool, well, i don't have much yet, except hue lights my tv, and google assistant, i do want to get motion sensors tho bnut these need zigbee/zwave
dull chasm
i have three installations ....my main in a I7 mini pc with 8 cores
tame parrot
oh, cool
dull chasm
thats a 50 dollar usb stick so no big deal
tame parrot
you mean the zigbee/zwave part right, XD
dull chasm
yes
tame parrot
ahhh, thats indeed no biggie
dull chasm
start with a simple intergration with tv alexa/google and hue and you can have a script that simply turns off tv and turns lights on 50% lighting the way to bedroom and the slowly dimming after x minutes to off .... was one of my first years ago
dull chasm
yep ...well 3 am comes early so i am going night ...
tame parrot
4 am fgor me, lol
dull chasm
@unreal orbit nice seeing ya back again
tame parrot
i am leaving too, thank you all so much for the help!
unreal orbit
Thanks, glad to be helping again 🙂
tame parrot
they are star wars fans here or something? XD
unreal orbit
Not sure who came up with the roles
tame parrot
haha
unreal orbit
been here for years at this point
fathom sparrow
been these roles for years
unreal orbit
👍 👋
fathom sparrow
3+ years at least
green inlet
Where you been Villhelm? Welcome back.
last dirge
don't call it a comeback
undone aspen
Aha!
Hmmm, I wonder if I can use the SmartThings hub integration for the ecobee, and still get the profiles access THAT way!
Hmmm, maybe perhaps not, but that leaves it open to do the idea that was suggested earlier, de-linking HASS from HomeKit, put that on the HomeKit hub, reverse automate that through HomeKit trigger automations from virtual switches.
sterile fractal
I have a problem with the aeon dsc11 not reporting energy usage to the correct device. It turns out that a simple changing of the endpoints in my zwcfg did the trick. Which github do I go to to report this issue? Home Assistant or OpenZWave?
last dirge
@sterile fractal OZW
scenic radish
welp i can't figure out how to open an ipv6 port for my server on the edgerouter x
last dirge
@scenic radish this sort of UI?
scenic radish
yeah
last dirge
I don't use ipv6 so I've never even looked at it
doesn't readily seem like you can
@tidal bronze you use ipv6?
scenic radish
seems like it's a CLI-only feature but i can't figure that out either
on my google wifi i could literally just select the device and open whatever ipv6 ports i want lol
scenic radish
thanks, i already have ipv6 set up on the router, i just can't figure out how to open ports
i have ipv4 port forwarding set up but would rather continue to use ipv6
tidal bronze
@last dirge no
last dirge
@scenic radish can you create a firewall group with an IPV6 address?
scenic radish
let me check, it doesn't look like i can from the UI at least
last dirge
all I can see in my UI is what looks like the ability to enter an IPV4 CIDR
I sent you a discord channel link
the people in there have helped me out a few times
tidal bronze
scenic radish
yeah i can't for the life of me figure out how to do that in the CLI lol
the UI only accepts ipv4 addresses
tidal bronze
Why port forward anyway? SNAT/DNAT is the way to go and do it right.
scenic radish
ah ok, any tips on that?
basically right now i have a cronjob on my server that updates my domain's AAAA record with the public ipv6 address of the server every 5 minutes
then i opened ipv6 port 443 on my google wifi
and NGINX on my server directs accordingly based on the URL
tidal bronze
Port forwarding / hairpin etc actually SNAT and DNAT rules simplified. If you want granular control look into source/destination NATs. Unfortunately don't use IPV6 so can't help much there. CLI is the way to go ultimately.
scenic radish
ah, thanks. tbh i'm so frustrated i might just return this stuff lol
tidal bronze
It's a little overwhelming to boot. Just takes a little time and patience.
Specially if you are used to click and go lol
scenic radish
yeah that's fair
tidal bronze
But once you get use to granular control and FW rules, bulb will light up and you will know what you have been missing 🙂
scenic radish
yeah... it just seems odd that i can't select a device to open an ipv6 port on
tidal bronze
Seems like you will need the server to be on a dedicated ETHx. since gets its own routable ipv6.
scenic radish
the google wifi does it based on MAC address because the public ipv6 address could change
yeah i'd be cool with putting it on its own physical interface
oh shit
that might be it
tidal bronze
Then do the WAN_IN / LOCAL rules for that ETHx
scenic radish
problem would be dynamically updating the AAAA record
tidal bronze
Run the DDNS
last dirge
how often does your IP actually change?
scenic radish
Not sure about the ipv6 address
wet quail
probably never. they're not running out any time soon and don't need to be reclaimed
you've probably got a /60 or even /56 to work with
scenic radish
/64 but that's still a ton lol
undone aspen
Why would you even use Windows at all? :)-
thick dragon
Can't really think of another channel for it, but anyone got any wild ideas on things that could be automated based off a solar system? Getting one installed and trying to think of ideas on automatically managing power/demand in the house based on generation.
hushed basalt
Because linux can't do desktops :D
undone aspen
Does just fine. 🙂
hushed basalt
Not for me
undone aspen
Nobody's perfect. 🙂
hushed basalt
I'm more than happy not spending weekends trying to get display drivers to work
undone aspen
Now, granted, some can have some deficiencies, of course....
ocean mirage
I just have no reason to not use windows for desktop purposes
it does what I want, no complaints
undone aspen
I like Windows. To see outside with from time to time. 😄
And to see where I'm going when I'm driving. 😄
ocean mirage
Oh I just use the navitron autodrive system for that
undone aspen
heh
undone aspen
Heh
Yeah. I can definitely say that is true.
but, I worked at home as well. So, I barely ever drove in the first place. 🙂
clear ferry
We've been back to normal for 2 weeks, but I still only go onsite like once a week
ocean mirage
I would occasionally work from home anyway, but if I went it I would catch the bus
clear ferry
I'm used to driving 40k km per year, so this is lax
undone aspen
Bleh, I just can't do bus.
ocean mirage
but much more other activities outside of that used the car previously
Busses are fine if you have a good service, and shit if you dont
I would just take my kindle and read theory lol
clear ferry
I don't think I've taken a bus in Norway for... 15-20 years
ocean mirage
busses in my city arent great but luckily I just live in the right place and work in the right place. 15 minute trip in traffic
clear ferry
I do it sometimes on vacation, if the underground or rail are bad options
scenic radish
Well this has been sufficiently frustrating
ocean mirage
haha
hushed basalt
I'm used to driving 40k km per year, so this is lax
@clear ferry
You know said 40 000 000 m per year
English is a funny language
ocean mirage
hes gets around okay
hushed basalt
It's only about 300 000 000m to the moon
ocean mirage
a few years and he will have made it
hushed basalt
40 000 000m is roughly the diameter of the Earth too
hushed basalt
You know what I don't think gets enough attention
The human and environmental cost of cryptomining
ocean mirage
At a complete guess I would think its a very small impact, compared to most things
clear ferry
Actually I would expect it to be in the 1-3% range of all power consumed
Interesting, three military choppers just flew over my house, like 60m above it
Heck that made a lot of noise
ocean mirage
Oh yeah they sure do
hushed basalt
It's not an insignificant amount
It's not like as much as cars on the road or heavy tankers
But it's would be more than a lot of things people jump up and down over
Even if the miners are powered by "clean" energy there's still that opportunity cost where that energy could have been used for something else. Like charging EVs etc
hushed basalt
Yeah I don't agree with it
It's had no useful benefit so far
Speculation/trading isn't a benefit
scenic radish
ocean mirage
scenic radish
heh
hushed basalt
Jon Snow has left the chat
Lord of Light has entered the chat
Jon Snow has entered the chat
fading zodiac
Yeet
scenic radish
Haven't had a showerbeer in a while
scenic radish
It's good
hushed basalt
What have you done on kubernetes so far atx
fading zodiac
It's release day
ocean mirage
you are being released?
fading zodiac
No, 110
clever mortar
So, what you meant was my install is broken day as people rush to upgrade without reading the release notes...
thick dragon
Is that why the SmartIR integration has been whinging about being on an old version of Home Assistant for the last week or so?
ocean mirage
I don't really update ever lol
clever mortar
This version only works on HA 0.110 and later
One of my HA installs hasn't been updated in forever, the other is updated about one to two weeks after the .0 release comes out
thick dragon
I tend to look at the actual changes, and if anything looks beneficial, I'll update - obviously taking a snapshot before doing so 😛
clever mortar
I find it's easier staying relatively current. There's been a few times I've fallen a release or two (or three) behind, but getting current again can be fiddly then
Of course, there's some folks out there on 0.9x trying to upgrade in one giant leap... 🤣
ocean mirage
I just never think to do it
fading zodiac
If you want to call it like that, sure 🙂
hushed basalt
I'm skipping 109
clever mortar
0.110 is looking nice, just for the performance boost
More improvements are coming for Logbook/History too 😄
hushed basalt
I'll probably jump in at 0.110.3+
I know there's a few breaking changes I'll need to sit down and assess properly when I have time and energy
ocean mirage
I am on 107 apparently
hushed basalt
108.9 represent
clever mortar
That's not that far out of date
ocean mirage
I think I reinstalled it for reasons not too long ago
clever mortar
I was on 0.108.9 until last weekend
thick dragon
Is the new partition model changes coming in 110? (ability to offload data partition to another drive)
clever mortar
That's nothing to do with HA 😉
thick dragon
Oh right, that's HassOS. I know that's in the dev branch.
hushed basalt
I moved my entire configuration to a subdirectory and put that in it's own private repo
light trout
0.111.0dev 💯
hushed basalt
I like to have a clean separation between state and configuration
clear ferry
gotta move over to a proper #zigbee-archived platform @fading zodiac 😉
molten osprey
Uninterested Fiber Sales Guy called me again
fading zodiac
Well, i'm running their discord
molten osprey
"yeah we dont do fiber in your building"
fading zodiac
Behave tinky 😂
molten osprey
Really? So why did I just see two trucks with half a dozen men wearing your company logo downstairs in the parking lot, assuming they're installing fiber for people who signed up when you had your booth up in the lobby this weekend?
molten osprey
"oh really? hmm let me check. i will call you back."
hushed basalt
@clear ferry why are rackmount consoles so expensive, even used
I would have thought there would be a glut of them with so many orgs moving to cloud
clever mortar
And then back to on-prem 😉
hushed basalt
Oofph
clever mortar
Hybrid seems to be the new model - some stuff in cloud, some stuff on prem
hushed basalt
All the maintenance fun of both
clever mortar
It turns out that running all your stuff on "other people's computers" isn't the magic solution to all your woes
fading zodiac
I'd like that hybrid
But it really depends on the company.
For me, as BI guy, the cloud enables our company to get "smaller" customers which cannot afford a onprem server.
They can afford 400 euro/month in the cloud, but not a 20k+ server.
hushed basalt
You're not helping Bezos reach his much deserved trillionaire status
Yeah there's a huge starting cost to running onprem servers
clever mortar
Yeah, obviously "horses for courses" but larger firms seem to be going hybrid instead of full cloud
Heck, my own was going fully cloud, and has changed course to hybrid
Hadn't even finished the migration from fully on-prem 🤣
brazen fable
Pfft. Everything I do is in house with the exception of my off premise backups
And well, Alexa for lack of suitable alternative yet
clear ferry
Hybrid is the way to go for sure, some things are snazzy in cloud,most things are snazzy on prem
staring cost yes @hushed basalt but in the long run I had a developer company discuss that with me, the cost per VM to run it in the cloud was $300 per month, because of the resources they needed, the same cost for on prem with the same or more resoureces, including power and cooling was less than $100 per month
clever mortar
Also, that £20K (or whatever) cost to buy it is a one off. Odds of you having to replace it after 3 years aren't that high IMO (unless you're doing something insanely compute intensive)
clear ferry
yeah, most customers "plan" to replace every 3-5 years, in reality it ends up being 5-10 years
clever mortar
Aye, the rate of improvement isn't as it was a decade or two ago
clear ferry
it's quite good still though, but def not the same
I remember starting out on the G5 servers 13 years ago, that had a max of 64GB RAM, now I install Superdome Flex that has a max of 64TB RAM
clever mortar
Yeah, but does it have a built in bench seat or fishtank?
clear ferry
Hey, don't go Cray-Cray!
clever mortar
🤣
clear ferry
The kids won't get it 
hushed basalt
@clear ferry even if servers and power are free
There's still a huge cost of operations
clear ferry
not really
once systems are up and running the cost is minimal on a day to day basis, and if you go with a vendor that delivers maintenance (like we do) you don't have to think about updates etc either, because we handle them, and they are in the fixed price already
customers love cost covered up front, so when we can deliver 5 years of hardware cost \ maintenance cost \ updates included in a monthly \ quarterly \ yearly fee, they love it
clever mortar
Yeah, any of the "proper" hardware I've been involved with over the last ... 10-20 years has required very minimal maintenance
A few hard disk replacements, one power supply, and one motherboard that went kaboom
forest edge
oh man i want to try 0.110 but i am skered cause I have alot of custom stuff lol
clever mortar
That's why you have a dev/test box 😉
forest edge
the only thing the new weather card is missing from being like the darksky is sunup/down and wind information hehe
clear ferry
@clever mortar what are you ? French or something ?
🤣
Greenhouse looking better every day
molten osprey
jesus, that is a temperature swing!
@forest edge Is the sun integration based on DarkSky too? Or you just talking about the weather card?
forest edge
@molten osprey just the weather card
molten osprey
ah ok
I'm installing Windows as a third boot option on a secondary laptop, 'for the hell of it'. It's been a while.
forest edge
I play pc games so windoze is a primary os
hmm usually dosen't take this long for an update to show on my frontend
clear ferry
🤣
sacred hornet
how does one activate the new calendar panel? the docs located here https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/calendar/ are completely blank
ps-i just migrated to 0.110.0 and its SO much faster to load the front end, superb work
clear ferry
checking my restart time before upgrading
53 seconds
ERROR: hass-nabucasa 0.34.2 has requirement pytz~=2019.3, but you'll have pytz 2020.1 which is incompatible. ORLY 🤔
after upgrade, 48 seconds
SO FAST NOW
🤣
clever mortar
😄
hushed basalt
What is yall opinion of obscurity as a layer in security
hushed basalt
Moving your ssh port from 22 to something else could reduce your attacks by like 10000 : 1
Doesn't mean you don't secure it further.
I keep my ports plain inside my network for convenience
And obviously web services need to be on standard ports if they're for use by normal people
clever mortar
My HA is exposed on a random high numbered port (not actually 12345)
I get a handful of probes a year
hushed basalt
54321?
junior forge
I've put HA on port 22 and SSH on port 8123, that will teach them.
hushed basalt
ssh root:password@tinkerer.com -p 22
clever mortar
I'm still shocked at how many people still use passwords for SSH. I mean, I get that an SSH CA is a bit of effort, but keys are so easy...
junior forge
GPG for me all the way
use my GPG keys as SSH pair as well
Stored on a hardware token (Yubikey)
clever mortar
I haven't quite got there yet, though there's no technical reason for that, just inertia
hearty depot
#the-water-cooler message
apperently 5 days 🙈
Ok the hard part was only to convince DinD to trust my selfsinged certificate
hushed basalt
I need some sort of ssh solution
Key pairs is showing it's painful sides. Especially since I'm now creating and deleting VM instances at will now
hearty depot
thats on my "lets maybe try this" list
https://smallstep.com/blog/diy-single-sign-on-for-ssh/
light trout
.links @hearty depot
velvet horizonBOT
hearty depot
not ok?
hushed basalt
I'd need to figure out my management plane for that
hushed basalt
I use ansible, but more the
What do I host the thing on that is a lynch pin to my entire home network
hearty depot
atm I use init scripts for creation - update and add keys - because lazy as f.
clever mortar
Well, the CA isn't active, it's a thing that signs them
So, you can "host" that anywhere you back up securely
hearty depot
CRL's are a pain
It would be so nice to say - look at this host! thats your CA - use it and dont have to friggle with the revocation
shadow forge
Desktop App for Home Assistant
I just wanted to let you guys know that I created a desktop app for Home Assistant (for macOS and Windows)
Get it here: https://github.com/mrvnklm/homeassistant-desktop 😎
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mrvnklm/homeassistant-desktop/master/media/video1.gif
light trout
You know the PWA does the same thing?
shadow forge
You know the PWA does the same thing?
@light trout Sure I do, did you even look at my app? It's actually just a wrapper to easy access your PWA instead of having to open the browser and loading the web page!
hushed basalt
That Facebook link looks like what I'm after Tinkerer
I posted that smallsteps blog article to another group a few months ago
And basically got told to shut up that's only for mega enterprises
Developers are the worst :D
hearty depot
PWA?
hushed basalt
Progressive web app
hearty depot
😘
ocean mirage
hushed basalt
🙈
ocean mirage
hushed basalt
🦘
hushed basalt
Alexander Graham Bell is rolling in his grave
ocean mirage
For what you are using your telephone for?
hushed basalt
For what we're using it for
hushed basalt
Well telecommunications in general
It's all just computers calling each other behind our backs
Actual documentary footage of the transport layer
Ask atxbyea he'll verify
hushed basalt
Puppers
ocean mirage
ocean mirage
no it wasnt
clear ferry
I will now never be seen in a non dev channel again
ocean mirage
Devs 
finite juniper
A general question: Does anybody know if ssd boot over USB with rpi4 will be available for hassos? Booting over USB should be available soon - https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/bcm2711_bootloader_config.md - pieeprom-2020-05-15.bin - BETA
forest edge
I will now never be seen in a non dev channel again
@clear ferry you can't hide from me that easily
clever mortar
#330944238910963714 @finite juniper
finite juniper
ok
eager vortex
clear ferry
So it was you all along @light trout ? Update HACS for the more info positioning problem
light trout
Are you blaming me for not updaing your system?
clear ferry
But my HACS is the latest, and the positioning problem happens on all cards
light trout
clear cahce 🤷♂️
hushed basalt
This is why testing is important.
I had a group of 2 lights, and a zigbee button with an automation to light.toggle
light trout
the apps have a good lock on the cache handling
fathom sparrow
modfight, go
hushed basalt
I randomly turned on one light today through the frontend
And now when I toggle the light it flip flops them
Wife did not approve
fathom sparrow
@hushed basalt make a template switch
hushed basalt
It's all good I just adjusted the brightness
To force them to the same state
That requires effort
radiant field
Anyone else seeing this issue in their frontend after today's update?
clever mortar
#frontend-archived @radiant field
clear ferry
I actually had to remove all data from the mobile app, not just cache for it to work 
Now I just need to find a working solution to collect tokens from the Samsung AC units, and I can complete my fork of the samsungrac custom component
Since the maintainer apparently has died or dropped off the face of the earth
scenic radish
that's what he gets for trying to climb up the ice wall at the edge of the flat earth
clear ferry
King beyond the wall
old summit
Hey everyone! New here. Just setup my Pi 4 and moved my devices over from ...another service that has been failing for years... can't believe I didn't do this sooner, it has been a pretty smooth transition so far 🙂
clever mortar
👋
low harness
Early Christmas this year!
unreal orbit
Will this be your first time attempting dove tails?
low harness
no
I decided to learn with crap tools, and now I think I'm at the level of skill where the tool might make a noticeable difference.
unreal orbit
Nice. I've just used a biscuit joiner for my projects. Real joints are very intimidating
fathom sparrow
what are you going to make?
clever mortar
It's Apple, key frames cost extra...
undone aspen
hah
undone aspen
Heh. Nice. My ecolink motion sensors and Aeotec Siren arrives today. 🙂
brisk glen
its kinda funny to see a car leave a trail
undone aspen
So, my home alarm system will be finally coming to actual completion. heh heh
brisk glen
abode finally fixed my homekit and are having their devs look into it
last plaza
Early Christmas this year!
@low harness I’ve made a table saw jig for dovetails. It can be intimidating to start with - getting it now and right is always tricky.
Those kits are not very useful after a few times. You will quickly move away from using them.
fathom sparrow
you're making me want to pick up woodworking again
last plaza
Woodworking can be therapeutic 😊
fathom sparrow
not when you don't have the right tools
brisk glen
ha
fathom sparrow
I'm missing a table saw, so it makes everything infinitely harder
last plaza
True! You gotta have good set of tools. I am a tool freak. Got all kinds of tools
After I got my table saw, I always wonder how I was doing it without one.
fathom sparrow
Ideally, id want a planer and a table saw and I'd be good to start again. I just don't have a place to put that yet
last plaza
They are on sale all the time. I even saw a couple in the last few days.
I put the planer right in the table saw table I made. They both go together.
last plaza
Yes. I made a solid table for the table saw 🤣
undone aspen
Well, Michael, I found an alterntive, sorta, to the issue of removing HomeKit from ecobee and moving it to the HomeKit hub. My SmartThings HUB can integrate to the ecobee cloud portion, providing the thermostat and remote sensors via that (though they will not be local for updates).
last plaza
I don’t have industrial table saws like SawStop.
undone aspen
Tis an idea, at least until I get the pyecobee stuff working to change profiles. 🙂
last plaza
I use DeWalt table saw with thin kerf blade - blade itself costs 1/3 of table saw. But worth it.
low harness
what are you going to make?
@fathom sparrow Sawdust, mostly
Speaking of table saws, my jobsite saw broke down a few months ago, so I splurged on a real 3-phase cabinet saw. It's awesome.
Had to get rid of my newly built table saw table, though. But it's going to make a great lathe bench.
midnight adder
👍
clever mortar
Yes, or in the Tasmota Discord
clear ferry
undone aspen
Hmmmmmm.... Thinking.. There's now Li-Ion AA batteries which are actually 1.5v, and Li-Ion is a much better battery than Ni-MH. My Kwikset Convert doesn't do well, or last very long, on Ni-MH batteries, but works great and long on Alkaline. I'm seriously pondering considering getting just a few Li-Ion batteries to see if it's worth it, though there's really only about two companies doing them. EBL with their bult-in USB charging port directly on the battery itself, and Tenavolts, which has their "unique" charger.
wet pilot
woot att finally fixed their shit and now i have dual wan through my ER-3 😛
clever mortar
Yeah, I'm looking forward to the decade in which I finally get a reasonable dual-WAN option
scenic radish
returning my ER-x 😢
wet pilot
lol why?
scenic radish
i am... way in over my head. almost all ipv6 settings have to be done with the CLI. i'm comfortable with a command line but figuring out a simple firewall rule to open ipv6 port 443 for my server is seemingly impossible
clever mortar
The USG has a UI for these things
scenic radish
there is, but anything ipv6 related is CLI only
clever mortar
But yeah, it's not great
scenic radish
except for enabling ipv6 which can be done in the UI
clear ferry
clear ferry
Whenever I see something called lite I expect it is some diet beer
wet pilot
lol
scenic radish
Tried that, didn't seem to do anything. I even straight up disabled the ipv6 firewall to no avail to test
clear ferry
@unreal orbit 
scenic radish
Maybe I'll give it another shot this afternoon
clear ferry
Kodi, for people still living in 2004 and thinks hacking Xboxs is cool
unreal orbit
I've been living the Jellyfin life lately, plex was too unreliable for me
clear ferry
Unreliable?
clever mortar
I've had no issues with Plex, ever 🤷
clever mortar
Hell, I've streamed movies while sat in airports overseas...
fathom sparrow
How much $$ you guys drop on your plex server?
scenic radish
0
clear ferry
Yeah, I streamed anime on a transatlantic flight
unreal orbit
Their auth service requires cloud polling. Their cloud goes down, you can't access your local content
clear ferry
@fathom sparrow 0
clever mortar
Well, I built my home server with Plex in mind, but I was going to build it anyway
So, £1K or £0 ...
unreal orbit
It works great as long as their service is functional
scenic radish
Whenever I see something called
liteI expect it is some diet beer
@clear ferry what about "light" as in Bud Light?
clever mortar
Water...
clear ferry
@unreal orbit hasn't happened here since I installed Plex like 10 years agp
fathom sparrow
so whats the conversion rate on monopoly money to usd?
scenic radish
NaN
unreal orbit
@clear ferry happened to me once. One time too many if I'm trying to access local content
unreal orbit
It seems like not a big deal until the one day you decide to watch a movie at home is when their service goes down. If I can't have 100% uptime when my server is running then I don't see the point in using it
Jellyfin, in comparison, has been excellent. Obviously not as feature rich as plex yet, but solid
clear ferry
I haven't had a single issue with Plex really, and I have lifetime plexpass, so for me to switch it would have to be something huge
clever mortar
Jellyfin has no Samsung or PS4 client... 👎
boreal pewter
I still wait for lifetime until it's on deal for 75 bucks again
I mean Plex is awesome and works for me.. but I could use it for free too right 😄
shy comet
i like Plex but i hate the transcoding decision process
which is why at home I prefer Kodi
Plex on the go
unreal orbit
@clever mortar yeah the apps are limited, but they have a roku app which is the only one I use
boreal pewter
There is no real Transcoding decision... it's just you using shitty clients and too good rips
clever mortar
They do have Cast, so that could work...
I've never had an issue with "universal" encodes, but then I'm not doing any 4K and ripping directly from the source media...
unreal orbit
I haven't played around with it too much. I really only stream from either my TV or chrome on a computer
clear ferry
I never even notice transcoding, so I don't care
boreal pewter
Yeah chrome on computer will most likely be transcoded 😄
shy comet
for me its more than just transcoding....its also the Kodi skins
Aura looks like netflix and is very easy to use for my wife compared to the stock UI
clear ferry
The Plex UI is quite nice imo, I prefer it over something like Netflix
shy comet
its come a long way for sure
it honestly comes down to preference they both do the same thing lol
i do also like Pseudo TV on kodi
boreal pewter
The indexing is just awesome. Description, Actors, Rating, Cover... and that with just a small amount of correction
Just audiobooks are terrible. Or my 300GB release is just fucked
I should not index full server tho.. the audiobook folder takes a whole day
clear ferry
Yeah, I'm considering ditching my TV subscription and paying for some IP TV from latvia
And get it straight into plex
boreal pewter
Yeah that feature was not too interesting yet to me
But Plex has almost 50TB data feeded
gd:cloud 1.0P 57T 1.0P 6% /mnt/google
clear ferry
boreal pewter
😛
shy comet
wow the snyder cut for justice league is actually coming lol
last plaza
#ReleaseTheSnyderCut is trending!
shy comet
2021 i wonder if that means they will do reshoots for it
there was supposed to be more characters in the movie too like green lantern
the question is, will it be substantially better than the theatrical cut
whic is like 40% on RT
it needs to be over 70% and certified fresh to be a success in my eyes otherwise itll be as weak as the BvS directors cut which was only like a 10% difference
clever mortar
You're asking the wrong question ... the question for any DC movie (or UP "Dark Universe" one) is how bad will it be this time 😛
shy comet
@clever mortar you ever watch the new DC animated movies?
those are surprisingly REALLY well done
clever mortar
I haven't
shy comet
they are amazing
Batman Red Hood and Justice League Flashpoint Paradox
are some of the best
clever mortar
Cool, I'll have to watch some
shy comet
but in all honesty, you can probably take the script from one of those and use it in a movie and itll be much better than what they ahve given us lol
ive watched them all lol....very adult and suggestive content lol
green inlet
@shy comet , I found a use case that doesn’t work any more for a rasbian install. I had to go to the github docs to find the old answer. I think it was one for your commits.
Unless I was doing something wrong, this won’t work on rasbian
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jonathonf/ffmpeg-4
shy comet
@green inlet you may need to find a repo that works for raspbian in that case
green inlet
But the old answer worked
shy comet
are you on 0.110?
the docs were updated for 0.110
the old update was for 0.109 and lower
i was asked to remove the old instructions as those were for a lower version of FFMPEG
clear ferry
I wish fritzing had an Android app
orchid rose
So, Intel just released a Ryzen 5 competitor with their i5-10600 cpu. They cost 300€ vs 180€ and the motherboards cost 200€ vs 100€. Who besides atxbyea is going to buy these at these prices? 🤔
clever mortar
You can install recent ffmpeg on Raspbian easily enough, whether you have to do it from source is the question
green inlet
I don’t think it is the repository. I think it was add-apt-repository. I was in the process of updating from 108.6 to 110 though
clear ferry
I think we've sold less than 100 AMD servers in Scandinavia the last quarter, probably close to 5000 Intel's 
shy comet
oh yea i honestly just copied what worked for me in there
green inlet
Maybe leave old instructions for rasbian install?
orchid rose
Yeah I don't know about the server market. AMD has been controlling the gamer/enthusiast market for a while now though.
But I doubt the i5 is meant for servers 😛
clear ferry
Who cares about shitkids who live at home until they are 30
amber bramble
my i7-2600k is starting to feel old finally. Most likely going with Ryzen if I replace it in the next year
shy comet
@green inlet old instructions were for an older version of FFMPEG, look at my PR and see the convo . i was asked to remove old instructions
wet pilot
i do think intel needs a kick in servers too just to make sure they're actually caring
amber bramble
i think intel stopped caring a lot when AMD had the bulldozer fiasco
green inlet
Ok, ffmpeg 7 installed just fine though. That is the version correct? 🤷🏼♂️
clear ferry
Customers have no interest in moving their whole virtualization farm to another architecture
.... Again
shy comet
is that v7 from FFMPEG3 though?
green inlet
🤷🏼♂️. How would I check?
clever mortar
Sounds like an #integrations-archived question ... probably
ffmpeg --version or some such though
green inlet
Well that produced a code wall of 💩
orchid rose
AMD does seem to be catching some momentum in servers and notebooks as well , but it's still very small compared to Intel ofc https://marketrealist.imgix.net/uploads/2019/08/B1_AMD-x86-CPU-market-share-Q2-2019.png
Is it a huge hassle to move from one x86 to another?
wet pilot
the main issues with prior versions of EPYC ®️ were the numa nodes
AMD kinda shat the bed with that and it caused major issues
their current gen fixed a lot of that though
orchid rose
I remember reading something about that but have no clue how any of the server side stuff works
clear ferry
@orchid rose requires downtime of every single vm
orchid rose
So the cluster can run with some of the systems removed, but you can't mix and match AMD and Intel stuff?
clear ferry
A VM cannot be migrated online from intel to AMD or visa versa
Or from one generation of intel to a newer one for that matter
orchid rose
Alright, gotcha. Makes sense I guess and downtime can be expensive.
clear ferry
Unless you run EVC, but then you lock off any instructions in the newer cpu
scenic radish
ok does this look right?
rule action proto packets bytes
---- ------ ----- ------- -----
1 accept tcp 0 0
condition - daddr fe80::2e0:4cff:fed9:11bb tcp spt:https dpt:https
10 accept all 3942 4155673
condition - state RELATED,ESTABLISHED
20 drop all 6 423
condition - state INVALID
10000 drop all 175 15296
condition - LOG enabled
destination address is the link-local address of my server
trim solar
Hey everyone, dont know where to ask. How can I display the time that has expired since a windows contact (on/off) was triggered the last time?
scenic radish
source port 443, dest port 443
@trim solar that's a template sensor, so i'd ask in #templates-archived
trim solar
thanks
scenic radish
i get error 522 connection timed out
tried with my domain's AAAA record set to the public IP of the server and the router itself
fathom sparrow
time vs money, you glad you bought the ER over the Gateway pro?