lol
#the-water-cooler
forest edge
tidal bronze
lol
forest edge
mine is 52" out there
tidal bronze
big ass fans are nice
forest edge
i'd sweat to death in this very room i'm typing in if i didn't have a cieling fan lol
hushed basalt
Their domestic models are way too expensive here thogg
clear ferry
AC 4 lyfe
hushed basalt
I'd love radiant floor heating
forest edge
but then in norway your use to torndao like winds 24/7?
hushed basalt
I don't like reverse cycle heating that much
hushed basalt
Saw a radiator for the first time when I went to Paris two years ago
tidal bronze
71 and a fan is priceless
hushed basalt
I like the radiant heat
If I built a house it would be high performance though so it would never feel "warm" in the slab because it'd cook us
tidal bronze
We really never think about heating
hushed basalt
But just a nice warmth all round without a fan blowing out of a vent and no drafts is ๐
Temperature ranges here are about 0 to 45 C
So you need both
tidal bronze
I think lowest is about 2c
hushed basalt
Yeah but your houses are warmer
forest edge
@tidal bronze they make all kind of bonnets like this https://www.amazon.com/QIACHIP-Ceiling-Remote-Control-Universal/dp/B07RYD632T/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=smart+ceiling+fan+control&qid=1589266214&sr=8-4 if your looking for direct wifi control. most of these use esp chips which can be flashed from the reading i've done
hushed basalt
Our dog boxes are 5 degrees above / below ambient at best sometimes
forest edge
i thought sonoff had a wifi fan controller as well
hushed basalt
When your houses are dog box green houses with no insulation or sealing and minimum overnight temp for a week is 25 degrees,
tidal bronze
@forest edge don't want to mess with all the existing RF ones. Bond works great. Just that I have 2 x 6 speed ones and want the fan component to control them natively.
forest edge
how many fans on this bond hub?
tidal bronze
5
forest edge
holy hell lol
they don't get mixed occasionally? go to turn on one and another turns on etc?
forest edge
so the bond thing can't do step control?
tidal bronze
bond can do everything, HA is the problem on 2 fans.
HA only got low/mid/high. I want 6 speed settings
tidal bronze
yep
forest edge
i think tinker helped someone build a multi stage fan control using a script or automation in here once
forest edge
think it would be in the older hassio channel
midnight adder
Good morning everyone
clear ferry
clever mortar
I did a dim/brighten based on a remote for somebody, which I then used myself
Back before there were actual dim/brighten options
forest edge
I vaguely remember it was using a sonoff fan control too
clever mortar
To be honest, I've no memory of 99% of what I've helped people with
forest edge
lol
tidal bronze
I guess I will have to wait for fan component to change. Till then scripts ๐
Easier to link Google assistant to bond ๐
clear ferry
forest edge
can't say much since i once had ferrets but i never understood why people wanted bird pets
clear ferry
I've had smaller birds when I was a kid, but having a bird like that must be a lot of work
forest edge
looked like they carpeted the wall to protect it lol
clever mortar
fading zodiac
Morning
clear ferry
Ermeegerd, I've taken like 4 vacation days in the last 30 days
Just 56 left this year
clever mortar
๐
hushed basalt
That's 56 american vacation day years
clever mortar
I fondly remember the year I had some insane number of days off to take. Took a month off over the summer, in addition to another month over the course of the year
clear ferry
I should have installed some indoor cameras so @forest edge could watch me clean out the sink and fittings for the first time in atleast 13 years
Barechested
forest edge
you use a sink? I thought Norwegians just used a hole in the floor for everything lol
clear ferry
You are mistaking us for people from the US Midwest
forest edge
was for sure thinking you were going to say sweden lol
orchid rose
hey now, only other skandibros get to bully other skandis
orchid rose
being historically part of Sweden forces us in
you don't get to choose your family members!
clear ferry
clever mortar
I prefer to truncate ๐
hushed basalt
Such a dangerous language, SQL
clever mortar
Far more fun to join multiple tables and in a SELECT *
restive zodiac
Hi! We've just hacked an eInk based remote control for home automation (https://getjoan.com/blog/diy-home-automation-system/) and we're looking for feedback - we're thinking about creating an official integration if this would be interesting for any of you.
clear ferry
Perfect, entire sink dismantled, and reassembled, fittings cleaned, new liquid gaskets applied and metal polished
And it doesn't drip or say glug glug anymore
hushed basalt
Plot twist, you are in the wrong house
clear ferry
hushed basalt
Imagine that. Burgulars who broke in and did all your household maintenance
"Excuse me I'd like to report a crime, someone has broken in and regrouted all my tiles"
forest edge
@low harness you should ask skalavala if it was his home she visited lol
midnight adder
@restive zodiac I am looking for something like this, but I am feeling that I would prefer to go with a normal color display that is wired in. Also the price seems just too expensive
restive zodiac
@midnight adder thnx for the feedback!
Sure, if you're ok with wires there are other alternatives you can go with. What are you looking at?
strange vapor
For the PMs in your life ๐
midnight adder
Basically a POE tablet...that looks like it is designed for the purpose. Not like a samsung stuck on a wall with a cable running down.
these are the ones that I have found so far:
strange vapor
https://www.chargedretail.co.uk/2020/05/11/lidl-owner-launching-its-own-rival-to-amazon-web-services/ Lidl going taking on AWS Cloud!
fading zodiac
Who created that HA discord bot?
fading zodiac
I can steal it?
clear ferry
restive zodiac
@midnight adder let me know if you find something affordable and good. The Joan Home is priced at 249 and does not require you to run a cable (which might be irrelevant if you have installations in place).
clear ferry
249? Oooof
hushed basalt
Yeah just get a consumer tablet with a poe to usb splitter
Done!
Run the cables in the wall either way
And make a bezel
hushed basalt
Even use a ethernet otg adapter if you want ethernet to the tablet too
Stuff it all in a big junction box behind the tablet
amber bramble
that's what i use to power my tablets
strange vapor
I got a few of them, and they work well, including for Raspberry Pis
clever mortar
I use one to power my Zigbee router ๐
forest edge
I got a few of them, and they work well, including for Raspberry Pis
@strange vapor should check these out since they work for pi's as well https://store.google.com/product/ethernet_adapter_for_chromecast
well pi0's anyways
hushed basalt
I think rpi3 A+ has pretty much superceded the zero
strange vapor
I have more ZeroW running than any other Pi, primarily with a DAC Hat running SnapCast's client
rare condor
Started using Calibre Web tonight, don't you love when you find a random github project that does just what you want
hushed basalt
@strange vapor that's the second time tonight you've posted stuff that's shown up in my local slack
We must have spies
It's certainly not memes going viral..must be spies
rare condor
I have given up on shipping atm, sensors I ordered in March haven't arrived.
I wanted to use a particulate sensor to measure dust in my room,
strange vapor
@hushed basalt Might just be that your CCTV is not secured.......
limpid wind
anyone here know how much power is used per hour in there home in the night?
clear ferry
I realize I am out touch with the kids these days when you can have CPU coolers with GIFs on them
@limpid wind I know how much power I use every minute
strange vapor
@clear ferry Em, I have to ask... Why?! Surely a screen like that will block airflow?
clear ferry
@limpid wind need to check , haven't gotten the integration set up yet
Guessing 2-3kwh per hour
@strange vapor BUT RGB and GIFs!
Yeah, 2-3kwh per hour at night looks right @limpid wind
orchid rose
It's a water block, there's no airflow
sage timber
I have a question about the HomeKit stuff on homeassistant. What channel?
clever mortar
Good luck though, everybody comes here with problems, and all they find are others with problems ๐
clear ferry
If it's the integration #integrations-archived if it's the devices #hardware-archived probably
strange vapor
Ah, missed that it's a water block
clear ferry
We are to old for this @strange vapor
Let's go program midi interfaces and load floppies
scenic radish
strange vapor
@clear ferry Playing with https://www.ctrlr.org currently. Actually reading SysEx implementation charts!!!
Started using it with a Roland JV-2080 that was sitting idle, and it's absolutely brilliant ๐
orchid rose
^ That was pretty good.
limpid wind
Yeah, 2-3kwh per hour at night looks right @limpid wind
@clear ferry thats pretty damn high no? I thought mine was high at 0.45kwh per hour
limpid wind
you bitcoin mining? we use 20 and this is much higher then most families down here
limpid wind
0.14 per unit here so that be ยฃ14 you need to earn when you wake up everday just to run electric ๐ฎ
limpid wind
sorry what is that in pence?
clear ferry
But we use no gas, oil or coal
limpid wind
7.2p?
clear ferry
0.72 pence I guess
limpid wind
I don't understand, where is the word is electric 0.72p per KWH ?
clever mortar
๐คฃ
clever mortar
2% of the electrons are destroyed in the process
limpid wind
Norway, September 2019: The price of electricity is 0.106 ..... this is 10.6p per kwh no?
clear ferry
Right now my price is 0.09 nok per kwh
Plus electricity transportation and tax which is 0.42 nok
Depends if you include that in the price or not
clear ferry
But again, we use no oil, gas or coal, so everything from heating to cooking uses electricity
scenic radish
Interesting. Natural gas for everything except air conditioning
scenic radish
Fart gas
tidal bronze
@shy comet how are the lights coming?
shy comet
I'm still trying to plan where to mount and how many more I need lol
@clear ferry it's fantastic we just finished season 1 last night
last dirge
@tidal bronze have you built any meters yet or still in testing mode?
tidal bronze
Didn't have time for anything been crazy busy with work. Only got a Bond setup for fans yet no time to do any automations.
@last dirge any progress?
last dirge
waiting on stuff from China
tested the pump, tested the solenoids
the stuff that works "on paper" actually works as it should, just waiting on stuff now
found wemos shields with a buck converter for like a dollar
tidal bronze
That's nice. Amazon is ramping up received most of my stuff.
last dirge
one of my Jasco switches failed so I ordered one of the dimmer/motion ones
haven't had time to shift stuff around yet
I also got some powerpole crimpers and they're friggin huge
loud tide
The hassio room says to ask questions in #homeassistant but that room doesn't exist.
I just need to know if hass.io containerizes the actual HA running?
peak cloud
@loud tide The new channel is #330944238910963714 I believe.
loud tide
@peak cloud ๐
hearty depot
Long time not seen Dale!
peak cloud
It has been a while indeed!
hearty depot
Live keeps us busy ๐
peak cloud
Yes, it definitely has been.
peak cloud
๐
peak cloud
Not too shabby. Been spending the last week working on the log-viewer add-on. Really hoping it works for everyone after refactoring it.
clever mortar
Well, as long as nothing catches fire, and you don't summon the Deep Ones again, it'll be fine ๐
clear ferry
ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
light trout
You should seek a doctor for that
scenic radish
...gesundheit?
clear ferry
peak cloud
<style class="log-filter" id="f596346946" data-log="/config/home-assistant.log">
div[data-log="/config/home-assistant.log"] { background-color: #3b3b3b; }
</style>
The new filtering engine underneath log-viewer is so powerful.
clear ferry
I remember playing with CSS in the early 00s, but haven't touched it much since
peak cloud
CSS3 is insane. (in a good way)
Basically that CSS above will allow me to hide/show/switch between log files being displayed.
So if you wanted to watch OZW_Log.txt and home-assistant.log mixed, you can.
forest edge
CSS has come a long way
I probably know less than half of what's possible with it these days as were as before I thought I knew everything lol
shy comet
Nice to see some new mods lol
forest edge
Good luck though, everybody comes here with problems, and all they find are others with problems ๐
@clever mortar lol this needs to be pinned
velvet horizonBOT
Tinkerer is away for 1m 26s with a message :point_right: Remembering that incident and ๐คฃ
wet pilot
Lol a motto for life on the internet
forest edge
whoa! phnx! grats and whoa!
wait a min, someone upgraded atx. i can no longer remain here lmao
shy comet
Lol
amber bramble
oh hey new mods
forest edge
someone needs to reset atx before he comes on later tonight just so we can tease him he was green while away lol
light trout
I guess he is sleeping now
forest edge
yea
peak cloud
I'd say he might wake up if you ping it, but he's already been pinged like 5 times in the mods channel.
forest edge
oh no, Tediore is green too! || hides the p0rn||
peak cloud
FIFY: pr0n
shy comet
wow
forest edge
well is it really biting the dust when it's just being condensed?
brisk glen
Now with more ads
rain swift
anyone got a link to a variety pack of tips for the TS-100 iron? Preferably amazon but allie would be OK.
torpid spire
Anyone else notice how similar the home button is to the original windows logo?
Pretty funny.
scenic radish
man... using dd makes me nervous every time
forest edge
do you need dd training wheels?
forest edge
@scenic radish thx gratz to you as well mr vomit color muwahaha
amber bramble
promote ALL the colors
forest edge
we be spewin the rainbow up in here!
last plaza
pride parade going on here today! ๐คฃ
shy comet
lol
amber bramble
i was just watching the new trolls movie with my 4yo so all the colors fit ๐
shy comet
still cant believe AMC told Universal they won't play any of their movies again cuz they went straight to video on that movie
last plaza
Trolls -2? I watched it half movie, I got bored!
amber bramble
trolls world tour
last plaza
It looks like it was made for toddlers
yup - that's the one - watched with kids, and stopped half way through... no one liked it in the family
shy comet
i liked the first one better
amber bramble
yeah i think the first one had a much better story
i was disappointed in the lack of smidge in world tour
last plaza
didn't watch the first one either
amber bramble
also i think the animators did a few too many drugs before animating parts of world tour ๐
my daughter liked the first trolls so much she watched it probably 100 times over the course of a few months and wanted to be poppy for halloween
scenic radish
I want to be Chris traeger for Halloween
amber bramble
i need to finish parks and rec
scenic radish
It is... lit'rally... the best show ever.
Grilled pork chops for dinner
Also I can't wait to be part of the next time someone pings Mod "accidentally"
shy comet
nice im doing Wagyu tonight since its my bday and stuck at home on quarantine lol
and apparently LA maybe on stay at home until July now ๐ฌ
scenic radish
July?? Damn. Illinois is until the end of this month but it could be extended
shy comet
it was supposed to lift on friday
last plaza
I am heading back to work on Monday
amber bramble
we're on WFH until the end of may at the earliest, but may be extended farther
forest edge
Also I can't wait to be part of the next time someone pings Mod "accidentally"
@scenic radish gl with that everyone who could have done it accidently got promoted lol
shy comet
haha
forest edge
I sure hope i don't brick my video doorbell changing all this crap via the api lol
hushed basalt
@scenic radish how do you know ping at mods even works anymore. Could you check.
forest edge
always so reassuring of quality when evvery 5th "enable" in the api config is spelled "eable"
shy comet
lol
amber bramble
so far i haven't bricked my water softener with my ugly hackjob tying into the debug port on its control board
wet pilot
Nice
wet pilot
Worse, no water at all
wild grove
"why is there blood coming out of the faucets"
torpid spire
I just got these Inovelli switchs and they are pretty awesome
Anyone else using them?
torpid spire
I just seen they have a ceiling fan switch coming out soon
I could kiss these people.
I could never get the fan controller i bought on amazon to work,
wet pilot
i saw that. That would be useful for homes where they only wired the standard 3 conductor up to the fixture. My house has 4 conductors going up there so i'll probably stick with the ge/honewell/jansco
torpid spire
I stumbled on them because my bathroom doesn't have a neutral.
I couldn't believe they made a neutral-less smart switch.
Works great so far.
scenic radish
sips from water fountain
That's Hawaiian Punch!
torpid spire
lol
last dirge
red LEDs instead of blue?
hushed basalt
Does anyone have any directional AP recommendations
So not PTP bridges, but a general purpose AP where all your cliente are in a zone
wild grove
i think it'd be based more on your antenna than the ap
hushed basalt
Yeah but most APs have integrated antennas nowadays
wild grove
true, and can favor an area based on the radiation pattern. if that wont work see if the major players have external jacks ubiquity, aruba, cisoc, meraki, etc
some of the higher end consumer grade have like 9 antennas for the various radios and wave6 stuff, not sure if they can or should be changed though
native rain
hi to our new moderator recruits!
supple plover
Hello all. New to the group but digging this thing already.
rare condor
I added the pregnancy icon to motivate myself when myself during isolation, also love the Mi Scale, have google remind myself each morning how lazy I am now ๐
If I fail to meet my goals, HASS sets my alarm 1 hour earlier and reduces snooze time
It also disables internet at certain times
wet pilot
nice
rare condor
Googles If Dog Shock Collars can be used on humans. I could use that as much more insentive
rare condor
Press snooze bam, shocked, failed to open washing machine after 5 minutes bam
scenic radish
Some people are into that sort of thing @rare condor
undone aspen
Couldn't get to my HASS website, or other internally mapped DNS entries, because, Firefox updates enabled TRR, which is basically DoH.
scenic radish
acronyms
undone aspen
lol
scenic radish
Actually, mostly initialisms
rare condor
@scenic radish I know, I had to leave a house on the other side of the city at 4am one night but that's a story for another time.
rare condor
enabling DNS over HTTPS -- seems a good thing
scenic radish
psi-jack -vvvv
undone aspen
In my system sure! in my browser doing its own independant DNS caching? NO!
rare condor
I thinks is a good thing, its more secure and most people won't enable it OS wide
You can always disable it
undone aspen
Yet, it breaks local DNS.
rare condor
Use https local DNS
undone aspen
...
rare condor
/s
undone aspen
Wouldn't be in Firefox's "TRR"
rare condor
I started using BRave
undone aspen
Almost tempted. :/
rare condor
Brave sucks
undone aspen
Yeah, brave does.. kinda suck.
For now I just disabled TRR, and set DNS caches in FF to 0.
rare condor
Current Issues: Sync is broken, Local Instant Search Broken, Makes random Bugs, breaks a lot of web, heavy crypto bs
I was thinking of trying out Google Chrome
forest edge
oh snap i finally figured out how to get the stupid ring light to stop blinking when the doorbell is cut off from the internet
rare condor
Hammer?
forest edge
lol no option buried in the api
figured out how to turn the ir lights off too but alittle late on that where as i unplugged them awhile ago
undone aspen
heh, so on a different situation.
I just had all of my contact sensors in 3 doors, stop responding at nearly the same time. With battery levels reporting 40~47%.
forest edge
sweet i also found the api for when the doorbell is pressed
may need your help with some sensor yaml phnx lol
forest edge
yea
gonna post all my info to the amcrest intergration, hopefully some of this can get baked in cause i know many will want it
rare condor
I replaced my amcrest with Ring, recently
forest edge
I dislike the cloud
rare condor
me too, I like everything local
But when I am outside the house internet is needed for any integration to work
so having Ring doesn't have any downside
forest edge
untill you realize the police are watching your videos lol
forest edge
I don't think it matters what country your in
rare condor
I have no issue with surveillance outside my home
They can drive a van and record my house freely anyway
no way I would install a Ring Camera in my house!
forest edge
if I decide to throw a pie in Tediore's face when he rings my doorbell I don't want any chance of him having proof he didn't get that done somewhere else
scenic radish
Good call
wet pilot
haha
scenic radish
We're supposed to make fun of you for being asleep when you were sudo apt upgraded
forest edge
a norwegian mod.. i mean really.. wasn't the pandemic bad enough?
clear ferry
More like just sudo chmod -r 777 /home/eirikz
@forest edge only in the US, the rest of us are fine
forest edge
yea i'm sure spain and italy are agreeing with you lol
wet pilot
anything good in there?
clear ferry
Cloud ๐คข
wet pilot
its great as a dev if you are writing a SaaS product
wet pilot
heh
clear ferry
Not sure if this channels is avaliable in the us, but my daughter loves the videos @wet pilot 
@midnight adder constantly downhill, as life should be
midnight adder
let's hope it spikes up and stays like that one day
clear ferry
That is too optimistic, life is shit, then you die, better to be pessimistic in general then be positively surprised when life is good
midnight adder
that's one way to go
hushed basalt
You could say your customers are making their own cloud atx
clear ferry
They are, and they have been for 20+ years already
Now it's just called "on premise cloud" instead of datacenter, because buzzwords
hushed basalt
I think of cloud as just resources being abstracted away from their physical devices in a large scale
wet pilot
he has power now, its scary
clear ferry
tough igloo
Wow new mรธdล. Surely there should have been a vote!! ๐
wet pilot
overruled XD
tough igloo
Itโs reward for all the hard work and dedication those users have been putting into #the-water-cooler
clear ferry
Brb tag myself
@mรฅdz
I'm joining nabu casa next week as an official emoji poster
Welcome me to the team
low harness
For a second I thought you were serious and was thinking that's an odd spelling of Mads - and is that a common Norwegian name anyway?
quartz ether
Jesus every mod is on apart from the one I want to talk to lol
clear ferry
Both Mads and Mats are @low harness
forest edge
Tinkerer prob logged in and saw the new green names and simultaneously sighed and slapped his forehead
clever mortar
It could be worse, we could have an influx of folks trying to run HA on Windows... ๐
forest edge
isn't that already happening?
wet pilot
will probably happen with the whole wink thing
though most of them have bene jumping to a pi so that's slightly less bad
clever mortar
It's not often I say I hope they find #330944238910963714 - but it's the lesser of the two evils ๐
forest edge
slightly less bad? raised eybrow
fading zodiac
That would be fun
clear ferry
Or influx of users using virtualbox on their gaming laptops that restart every night and run three antivirus programs ๐คข
fading zodiac
Three antivirus?
forest edge
can't have too much antivvirus protection these days
fading zodiac
I remember the time when grandma had 10 toolbars.
You know, and then she kept insisting that she used them all.
forest edge
so tempted to ring the doorbell
wet pilot
doit
forest edge
maybe if it was an hour earlier
clear ferry
I still have my 10" laying around somewhere
My 24" CRTs are long gone though
43kg each
And I had three of them
forest edge
you guys so young to have grandma's who even know what a computer is
clear ferry
They were both born in 1914
fading zodiac
I'm 25 tho.
wet pilot
one of my grandmothers had a PC before we did
forest edge
I actually hate that my mother has a PC now even tho the whole time i was growing up she never used one till she became retired
fading zodiac
I started to advice chromebooks.
hearty depot
Good coice. I got my Acer R11
https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/series/acerchromebookr11
now for 4 years and I still love it.
Best laptop ever
clear ferry
My MIL and mother have had iPads since they were launched, my mother actually has a certification in MS Access, and my MIL worked with digitising journals for 30 years
clear ferry
forest edge
lol atx was pooped out wearing a pocket protector
hearty depot
werent you also purple yesterday?
hearty depot
also congrats then ๐
fading zodiac
No
Chromebooks are amazing for those people
They can't break it
And i don't have to explain there's no Nigerian prince which wants to give you cash.
clear ferry
I love my Chromebook, but even more after installing galliumos on it
fading zodiac
They realy have great hardware for the price.
clear ferry
Yes, I hardly bring my work laptop with me to work anymore
Just the Chromebook, especially nice when I travel by plane
1kg, 11h battery life
fading zodiac
When i got my S9+
I bought one of those elcheapo USBC to HDMI/power and usb boxes.
So i could use Samsung Dex
I've worked with it for a few weeks
Really amazing software
When they added a Ubuntu based VM possibility i was even happier
clear ferry
I've used my Huawei p20 Pro as a desktop a few times, it works surprisingly well
fading zodiac
Yes
I noticed that some apps aren't good for it
But in my case, i was working with MS azure and the data factory, so Chrome app worked fine.
clear ferry
Customers have usbc in their conference rooms anyway, just plug it straight in, use bt keyboard and phone display as mouse, bam
fading zodiac
the MS Word and Excel worked very well, but they were missing functionality
I've also used the RDP app, which allowed me to connect to a local windows server
I think i could do my work with just the Galaxy phone if i really needed to.
clear ferry
Yup
I even have a Bluetooth serial adapter, so I'll be fine
A can make my own serial cables in the field anyway
fading zodiac
For the 10% of the time, you probably could use a VPS or so for software you need.
Really depends on what you do for a living
But if you have to go to a client to fix something, you wouldn't need a whole lot of heavy software i figure?
clear ferry
Depends, usually I need 40GB worth of software, but I have that in an external disk that can mount Isos from the display if needed
If I have a serial port and a web browser I'll get far
hushed basalt
Just moved my Unifi AP to a slightly better location
On a desk since I'm renting :'(
I have a small townhouse but it's full of concrete and brick. Signal drops to -80 in 8 metres!
clear ferry
Wonder why IKEA haven't released door sensors yet
hushed basalt
Probably don't trust their users to not install them on the hinge side or something
You should get the sensors that are hidden inside the door and frame
clear ferry
The zwave ones?
hearty depot
fading zodiac
I have no clue
You can try double sided tape @hushed basalt
for the unify
Since i figured out theres allot of high quality double sided tape ou
out
i use it allot
hushed basalt
Not allowed to us tape on walls
fading zodiac
Stuff is heavy
hushed basalt
Plus this paint is beyond shit
fading zodiac
Do you have a smoke thingy?
on the roof?
Remove it
Add wood plate
put unify too
hushed basalt
Smoke alarm on the ceiling?
That's a clever idea but I'd still need to run the cable
fading zodiac
Basicly
hushed basalt
And the mid level floor/ceiling is solid concrete
fading zodiac
Also
Is your desk next to the wall?
Add a pole to your desk.
Be creative
Like
if you have the table legs, add tie-wraps and a PVC pipe for example
you can put it against the wall and attach it to the table
scenic aspen
Probably don't trust their users to not install them on the hinge side or something
You should get the sensors that are hidden inside the door and frame
whoa, what do you mean by this?
clear ferry
I thought you meant these @hushed basalt https://www.amazon.com/Sensative-Z-Wave-Contact-Outdoor-Installation/dp/B01LWMTUI8
quartz ether
@clear ferry should have got his own colour. That sits right at the bottom and only has one other person the same rank which is actually just a bot that does his eyes meme every time he gets tagged
hearty depot
@scenic aspen
clear ferry
quartz ether
๐
quartz ether
That is your lab or that is the office? 10g at home is a very good thing
I got 80TB in the mail today. And itโs not even my birthday (thatโs tomorrow)
clear ferry
Connectx2, that shit is old
rare condor
๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ
clear ferry
And hot
fading zodiac
the big D contest started i see?
clear ferry
@quartz ether this is just the customer demo center, we used to have 8 racks for that, now only 2
fading zodiac
No customer no demo
clear ferry
And we had 8 racks for labs, but those were never replaced, so I run a rack at home
@fading zodiac remote remote remote
I have 30k servers in the us i can do that with
clear ferry
I VPN into the corporate network, so I can reach any site in the world anyway
hushed basalt
A lot of ISPs now are only offering 20Mbps upload on their 100Mbps plans now ๐คข
Which means that's more likely 70/12 sync speed
And 60/8 congestion speeds
hushed basalt
Are you saying there's something wrong with spending 60 billion dollars on a DSL network
Plus gratious payouts to Telstra
forest edge
lol my first forum post https://community.home-assistant.io/t/amcrest-doorbell-ad110-api/195440
i didn't think i written that much
talk about boring
hushed basalt
fading zodiac
๐
hushed basalt
That's obviously computer generated
clear ferry
So are you!
hushed basalt
Koalas never touch the ground. They move from tourist to tourist laying eggs down their throat and jump straight back to the treetops
quartz ether
Drop bears
hushed basalt
No drop bears are what we call the queens
They make the eggs and give them to the koalas
quartz ether
Lol.
hushed basalt
Actual documentary footage
https://media.tenor.com/images/d0158640a96f393ef65523b183978a4d/tenor.gif
quartz ether
I live in NZ, aus is just trying to copy us. With the added death creatures and desert
forest edge
lol
hushed basalt
Yeah NZ is looking pretty good right now
forest edge
i hear NZ is quite beautiful
hushed basalt
Fast cheap internet, no Scomo,
fading zodiac
Ment at work down under?
clear ferry
Very easy language for English speakers
strange vapor
Is Norway big enough to handle both @clear ferry and @hushed basalt though??
clear ferry
forest edge
you just place one finger in the side of your mouth and pull out to make a pop! and you got norwegian language down solid
hushed basalt
Think of all that homelab fun I could have with cheap power and atxbyeas gear connections
Watch our Bezos I'm coming for your dinner
forest edge
plus we wouldn't have to listen to you brag about your cheap ebay computer parts lmao
hushed basalt
Cheap?
forest edge
sarcastic
clear ferry
forest edge
starting to wonder if the chinese got kilometer and meter mixed up with this pir sensor
pretty sure it's detecting movement across the state
clear ferry
sit down Donald, you are tripping my sensor damnit
green inlet
Check out my new look ๐คฏ
green inlet
I know right. I am going to be banning all you biatches now ๐คฃ
clear ferry
green inlet
I feel like if there was an actual vote it was 51/49
green inlet
So only one person made a poor choice ๐ณ
clear ferry
And for once it wasn't me!
green inlet
I know the feeling
zealous rune
got a very basic Linux question. I've googled it but can't find an answer. When logging in via terminal, if I accidentally hit carriage return on the username, it asks me for a password (for that blank user, I assume). How can you get back to where it asks for the username again without killing the session?
clear ferry
you can't
but you can always send your username in the session, like ssh magicuser@hostname or even in putty you can write magicuser@hostname and get right to the password prompt
that said you should look into key auth
scenic radish
Yeah key auth FTW
Then you can make an alias that gives you an interactive session by typing one word
zealous rune
Ah, it's a putty prompt, not the Pi itself?
light trout
it's the remote server
zealous rune
SSH in this case
light trout
but you can cahnge how you invoke that server
zealous rune
OK, easy enough. I added the default user I use and then I only have to enter the pw. Saves me when I fat-finger the login. Thanks.
light trout
now, use keys instead and no need for password
fading zodiac
Hehe
velvet horizonBOT
fading zodiac
nice
You know, there should be some addition @clever mortar
Brought to you by Mimiix
๐
scenic radish
.piccursticc
velvet horizonBOT
scenic radish
.bigzee
ocean mirage
I hath returned
clear ferry
tag me @ocean mirage
ocean mirage
I been stupid
clear ferry
@mรธdz
ocean mirage
whoa atx is a mod what the fuck has happened to this place
clear ferry
I did a communist coup
ocean mirage
I would but the cranky mod will get cranky
clear ferry
CAN YOU HEAR THE PEOPLE SING
ocean mirage
fucking right on 
maybe its time for this place to be redeemed and unmuted
who can say
ocean mirage
Everyone gets one mod ping and nobody else uses it
fading zodiac
@clear ferry Just wondering, check that ban logs and see how many people got banned for that.
scenic radish
We are unable to disclose this information.
fading zodiac
Makes us a special breed @ocean mirage
ocean mirage
I don't think I have been on a server with this many mods either
clear ferry
just YOUR PREVIOUS USER
fading zodiac
Compensation
scenic radish
Gotta keep people like you in shape @ocean mirage
ocean mirage
the green names are messin with me
scenic radish
Can't have any coups
ocean mirage
lol
clear ferry
CHICKEN COUP
fading zodiac
This upgrade for ATX is annoying
You know the feeling when some whatsapp or telegram contact change their picture?
And you have to read to see it?
ocean mirage
Green matches the nauseous emoji that atx is famous for
scenic radish
More like infamous
clear ferry
๐คข
fading zodiac
Changelogs?
green inlet
All the sudden, Padawan isnโt as glorious when everyone else made a step up ๐คฃ
clear ferry
๐คฃ
fading zodiac
you know
scenic radish
@green inlet can always step you down ๐
clear ferry
I told tinkerer we should move all old mods up to @oldgeezer class, pink ๐ค
green inlet
All the pressure though....I am kinda an under the radar guy
fading zodiac
Must be in your line of work
amber bramble
im only slightly disappointed that there's not a secret jedi/padawan channel 
green inlet
Holy crap....I am on the same level as cgarwood......something wrong with the matrix
amber bramble
fading zodiac
I miss IRC
amber bramble
not sure if i should be offended or not ๐
clear ferry
we have one, you just ain't invited @amber bramble
green inlet
I meant, you should be much higher
clear ferry
๐
light trout
There is a home assistant IRC room
forest edge
think this pir has two settings, detect nothing or detect movement as far away as the moon
green inlet
Terry cloth?
clear ferry
emory cloth, I saw that so often in guides
green inlet
Yea, just throwing shite out
clear ferry
basically fancy sanding paper ๐คฃ
forest edge
emery cloth is sandpaper but way fine
green inlet
Emory cloth? Donโt want to have to deal with the Loweโs masked bandits
forest edge
you could use metal brush, they make pipe cleaners.. whatever you think you can get where the sanding needs to be done. just make sure it's fine and not course lol
green inlet
But Emory cloth is what you suggested right.
forest edge
emery
green inlet
If Atx was here, would his hair work?
forest edge
too brttle
forest edge
https://www.amazon.com/emery-cloth-roll/s?k=emery+cloth+roll&page=3 it comes in all shapes and sizes so buy cheapest you can even if you have to cut it down to fit lol
light trout
Why are you summoning me @fading zodiac ?
fading zodiac
You said there was a irc room?
green inlet
Ludeeus, is busy doing important Norway stuff
amber bramble
look at all the new people that you can summon with (at)mods
forest edge
thats a myth, there is nothing important in norway
fading zodiac
No IRC ๐ฆ
light trout
that's why I'm here
clear ferry
just deleted some local ISOs
apparently I had 130GB of ISOs laying around ๐คฃ
hhah, I just saw a wonderful abbreviation of how failover clusters work, the standby needs to "STONITH" something https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STONITH
forest edge
iso of what? linux mint? lol
clear ferry
hella lot of firmware and different OSs
forest edge
that's why you burn them on cd's that way years later when you find them it's meh
I still got some burned cd's from like the 80's in a an old cd case you would keep in your car for music cd's lol
fading zodiac
Why would you need CD's?
last dirge
SO YOU CAN SEE DEEZ NUTS
clear ferry
because they are the only allowed medium when you go into secure sites
last dirge
@forest edge burned optical disks degrade pretty rapidly
forest edge
if by rapidly you mean a few decades.. sure
it really falls down to quality of the cd and quality of the burn. i've been access my data on those older cd's of mine to transfer them to my nas after 30 years
some parts on some cd's were corrupted but the meat was still intact
last dirge
I've got nothing in any of the bays of my desktop
undone aspen
heh
wet pilot
i got a case with no 5.25" bays
undone aspen
I need to come up with a monitoring solution of some sort to let me know. "Hey! Things stopped responding!", because, I just had all my contact sensor batteries die, nearly all at the same time, all between 42%-47% reporting. And one motion sensor, which stopped working which is in a recharging battery.
fading zodiac
nothing there
clever mortar
Then you get to wait ๐
fading zodiac
oh
last dirge
go to github and read commit logs then ๐
last dirge
@undone aspen should be easy
are they reporting directly to hass or through some other thing?
undone aspen
You would think. My SmartThings hub sees the disconnect/offline state, but HASS does not.
last dirge
there's your problem
undone aspen
yeaaaaah... There is that. LOL
fading zodiac
Smarthings is odd
undone aspen
Heh. It's funny too, I adopted only a few things in smartthings, which is the hub, which was useful for initially getting started into all this, then the contact sensors and one motion sensor.
Heh, I am however, half-tempted to replace my SmartThings contact sensors with Aeotec Contact Sensor 7's, with the 1/2 AA batteries which I have plenty of unused just charging. ๐
Despite that they don't actually read temperature. LOL
heh.
I just... Can't believe people would make battery-powered WiFi contact sensors, like geeni does.
last dirge
how fast does that eat batteries?
clever mortar
amber bramble
i have a bunch of monoprice zwave multisensors that chew through batteries like candy
undone aspen
They CLAIM the CR2 battery lasts up to 2 years. I call BS!
forest edge
well crap may have to redact my one post on the forums. for whatever reason the doorbell number isn't increasing all of a sudden.. damn chinese doorbells!
last dirge
zwave is completely different than wifi
amber bramble
probably doesn't help that I have the temp/humidity reporting thresholds super low though
last dirge
zwave can just wake up and transmit immediately
amber bramble
yeah
undone aspen
@amber bramble Heh. Yeah.
amber bramble
which means wifi based ones are going to chew through batteries even faster lol
last dirge
yeah
undone aspen
I'm just surprised the battery level reporting on my SmartThings contact sensors all got to about 42~47%, and stopped.
amber bramble
that happens with zwave devices too
they report battery level as % of voltage between 0 volts and 3 volts
clear ferry
Smartthings ๐คข
amber bramble
but require 1.5 volts to be able to function, so a 50% battery level report is basically the same as "dead"
undone aspen
heh
clear ferry
Nice thing about zigbee2mqtt, it reports the voltage
undone aspen
So, I should setup an automation to report when they're at 50% or less.
amber bramble
that's my biggest complaint with zwave, the firmware on most of the devices is awful
clever mortar
And updating is .... largely a non-starter
amber bramble
some devices have good battery reporting, but most of them are bad
clever mortar
My Fibaro goes from 90%+ to dead in a heartbeat
undone aspen
Yeah, my Kwikset Convert is not bad. It's currently around 40% and still not blinking red to indicate low power.
My Fibaro motion sensors, yah, those... Are wierd with battery levels.
strange vapor
undone aspen
i almost don't even want to buy Fibaro stuff anymore becuase of stuff like that.
Heck, that's why I even bought rechargable CR2 batteries! LOL
forest edge
typical i make my first post on the forums then gotta delete it lol
scenic radish
๐พ
forest edge
well for whatever reason doorbell counter stopped counting on the doorbell so not sure if it's an issue with my unit or if it was coincidence with my testing yesterday values were changing. till i know for sure I don't want to give false hope to anyone lol
I saved my post in a text if it turns out to be something minor i can repost it another time
hushed basalt
42
tidal bronze
@clever mortar which fibaro device?
last dirge
EYE OF SAURON
tidal bronze
Had a door sensor that did that but was a bad sensor running 1/2 AA
@last dirge using a patio umbrella solar led pack for soil stuff ๐
tidal bronze
yep
tidal bronze
yes with 15 min sleep
tidal bronze
last dirge
that thing takes FOREVER to dry out
tidal bronze
Yep
tidal bronze
This one is metal. Going to move it to middle of the lawn today. Should've checked sooner. Oh well
last dirge
the only code I've found where someone used it for watering checked to see if the reported humidity was below 95%
scenic radish
thirsty boi
was anyone else kind of surprised by how light SSDs are after picking one up for the first time?
i bet they're deliciously crispy
clever mortar
60 seconds in the microwave to align all the electrons and you double your speed
scenic radish
sweet, brb
last dirge
my NVmE drive is nuts
tidal bronze
Nvme is the way to go switched years ago.
tidal bronze
Haven't used SSD for a while now ๐
hushed basalt
I want to get some more ssds for my proxmox nodes
I've got 128s in there atm but thinking of some nvme in pcie adapters
tidal bronze
EVO's are cheap now well pro's too
shy comet
nvme is awesome but you need a newer motherboard to support it
clear ferry
Nvmeof 
shy comet
its gonna take me a few days for my eyes to adjust to the color changes for all the new roles ๐
wet pilot
lots of people moved around
clever mortar
And I'm sure there'll be some more shuffling to come
wet pilot
241.8 online mods per online user online users per online mod
amber bramble
thats a lot of mods
wet pilot
got that backwards...
scenic radish
lol
tidal bronze
@shy comet you mean like UCB? ๐
clear ferry
I'm glad I'm not in hotlanta now
wet pilot
would probably get 'rona'd
shy comet
@tidal bronze a lil too early for me....UCB?
tidal bronze
shy comet
oh lol
tidal bronze
Yep ๐
amber bramble
Any decent free tools for doing a UI mockup for a mobile app? Preferably with material design templates built in
light trout
If you find any please share (preferably tag me as well) ๐
light trout
soo? where is the tool?
last plaza
@light trout I got the HassBot to run in container in Ubuntu.
last plaza
Lmao. Not sure how that will work out - but thatโs my next step.
shy comet
amazon announced a new fire tablet today....wonder how low its gonna be on prime day a month after it launches lol
hopefully $50 but probably 60 since its $10 more
amber bramble
what size
amber bramble
wonder if it can be rooted ๐
hearty depot
Got a rooted one here.
But I wouldnt bet on it - they are prittey good when it comes down to restricting your freedom
wet pilot
rooting is probably a $100 upcharge
shy comet
i dont really see a need to root the fire tablets since you can install google play services....would be nice to remove the bloat but thats about it for me
last dirge
how 'bout the fact it shows ads?
shy comet
you can call them and get them to remove it no need to pay for that lol
ive done that on all the tablets i bought from them
if one person says they cant do it you hang up and get the right person who doesnt care and does it for you lol
scenic radish
shy comet
i only have 1 fire HD7 rooted but its stuck on androd 5.1 due to hardware i tink
i followed some XDA guide
my other amazon tablest are fully updated with fire OS so i doubt i can root them lol
clear ferry
@shy comet @last dirge haha, that is the most American thing I've ever heard, you buy a product that you by default have to have ads on
scenic radish
well, you do get a discount
last dirge
well, it's a gigantic discount
scenic radish
it's optional
last dirge
next cheapest good quality tablet with similar specs was 4x that
so buy it, root it, ???, profit
or just use software that keeps it awake so it never shows the ads
clear ferry
It's still a hilarious concept
shy comet
Amazon knows us consumers very well lol