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hushed basalt
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It's a trade off I guess

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Stacking switches can be add an extra dimension onto fault finding and intermittent faults

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I think I'll just do 2 x cat6 per TV when I run my own cables

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Gets a bit trickier when it's a wall mounted TV without a cabinet

midnight adder
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4xtv,receiverbox,xbox,playstation why do wifi 🙂

hushed basalt
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Don't forget Chromecast!

midnight adder
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only on wifi 🙂 I have 2 chromecasts 🙂

wet pilot
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No Ethernet adapter? For shame

hushed basalt
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Wifi is the devil

midnight adder
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yea, my wifi is overcrowded .. like 72 iot devices plus phones and normal devices ...

hushed basalt
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I'd be putting my google home minis on ethernet when I can as well

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I suspect a 24 port switch may not be enough for my future home

scenic radish
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goodness... i don't think i've ever had more than 20 wireless clients connected at once

hushed basalt
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3/4 access points, 6ish cameras, 5 or 6 home minis, 2 x 2 tv points, plus desktop or two, probably some POEs around the house acting as PLCs for GPIOs,

scenic radish
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17 wireless clients connected now plus 7 wired

wet pilot
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Good chunk of wired some amount of wireless

hushed basalt
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Plus 5 or 6 NICs for servers

midnight adder
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depends on rooms and devices like ip cameras are better with wires so I would go 48p POE switch.. i have like 2x24p POE, 4sfp++1g/mikrotik, and other 24port mikrotik.. and servers off course but like no I would go much less and more ports and all POE, mikrotik sfp+ switches are cheap 10g if needed....

wet pilot
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Need to wire up some rooms

hushed basalt
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Yeah I'll definitely have to think about two switches

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Maybe a 24 port GBe with 4 x SFP+ and a 24 port POE

midnight adder
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yea and trunk 2x10gsfp+ between them fiber is cheap and adapters are cheap on ebay

tidal bronze
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@hushed basalt ghm's on eth?

hushed basalt
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Yeah

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They are just OTG micro usb ports

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Same as chromecast ultra

wet pilot
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Oh sweet, good to know

forest edge
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no clue how much shit i have on the network lol

tidal bronze
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That's going a little too far... 🙂

hushed basalt
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You can use a POE to micro usb/ethernet splitter, and then a ethernet and micro usb Injector together to make them POE as well

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In theory

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Nothing that doesn't move should be on wifi

forest edge
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Nothing that doesn't move should be on wifi
@hushed basalt lol wut?

hushed basalt
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Plus POE is cheaper than electricians in Australia

midnight adder
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yea for normal home thats cheaper... but like ip cameras can run poe all can with adapters and raspberry pis can run off poe with adapters so switch is nicer... i thinjk

tidal bronze
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Why not run a good wifi network with radio separation? I am big on hard wired as well but OTG to ETH for GHM.... 🙂

hushed basalt
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They stream music why wouldn't you want that off your spectrum

tidal bronze
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Hmm miniature streams

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Unless you are streaming DSD that is 🙂

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If you want to run cable, more power to ya but I don't think you need to. Just run well planned wifi system with proper separation of radios and channels.

hushed basalt
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I want to ceiling mount them anyways

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Which means I would need to pay a pair of electricians $200/hr to put in outlets in the ceiling

tidal bronze
midnight adder
tidal bronze
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Which means I would need to pay a pair of electricians $200/hr to put in outlets in the ceiling
@hushed basalt now we are talking going POE 🙂

midnight adder
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at startup.. anyone on latest version?

static schooner
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Yer in the lounge

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And 109.4?

hushed basalt
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I did say that POE is cheaper than electricians :D

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Do you think I want my google homes on a kitchen counter like a common Tediore

midnight adder
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home-assistant version 109.4

tidal bronze
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@hushed basalt you can have it on wall outlets.

hushed basalt
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🤢

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Not in straya anyways

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Our outlets are all side by side

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Good luck fitting a puck and mount there

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Stuffed behind the air fryer

forest edge
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I did say that POE is cheaper than electricians :D
@hushed basalt that's messed up honestly. by alla counts that should NOT be the case

tidal bronze
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Thats how I have all over the place for TTS groups

forest edge
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don't those sound like the neighbor the floor down is yelling? lol

hushed basalt
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Plus Australian electricians have a habit of putting outlets right above the skirting board

tidal bronze
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I think I have 12 or 13 of them at very low vol

forest edge
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jesus lol

wet pilot
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That's...a lot

forest edge
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"hey google what time is it?" 7.1 surround sound - "it it it it it it it it is is is is is is 12 12 12 12 12 12 o'clock o'clock o'lock"

hushed basalt
tidal bronze
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Got them at $4.95 ebay deal some time ago. Lol

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Didn't know what to do with them.

scenic radish
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wut

tidal bronze
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This guy was selling coupons for 4.95 and free at checkout.

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I went to town 🤣

forest edge
scenic radish
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Like Christmas vacation

tidal bronze
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I wish CC groups did a better job but notice some dropping and coming online now and them. Still with that many good enough for tts

forest edge
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@scenic radish that's from christmas vvacation lol

scenic radish
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Right, I was saying it reminded me of that

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PLAY WARZONE WITH ME!!!

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Jk I'm going to sleep

ripe oracle
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Guys, just got Google Assistant running ok, but I'm wondering if it's possible to run hassio on a VM with AWS IoT. Anyone know?

forest edge
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PLAY WARZONE WITH ME!!!
@scenic radish maybe tomorrow. everyone kind of dragged tonight lol

low harness
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I love how the dials rotate in alternating directions. ”TWO (stamped sheet metal) gears for EACH? Are you INSANE? You’re bleediny us dry!”

fickle terrace
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Hey guys! I started looking into home assistant and it looks pretty interesting. I already have a server running for other self hosted applications, so I don't think it would be too difficult to setup. But I was kind of wondering what are the benfits of home assistant over things like iftt. A lot of devices in my home are smart, connected to google, and have their own apps with basic automation functionality, and that's been working great for me so far. But I hear there are also some benefits here and want to hear from the perspectives of people who actually use it. Can explain the benefits/downsides of home assistant and the use cases compared to using something simple like iftt?

clever mortar
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You're asking to compare the difference between a well stocked workshop, and a pocket multi-tool

fickle terrace
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well not even iftt, but just in general

clever mortar
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Are you asking for the difference between a Smart Home and Home Automation?

fickle terrace
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like potential use cases. For me, I think a pocket multi tool is good enough, but there may be use cases where the well stocked workshop is better, so I want to hear about those

clever mortar
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Like the ability to walk into a room and have the lights come on?

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Or the lights turn off when you go to bed, automatically

fickle terrace
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For example I have tasker on my phone, so I can kind of do some of the stuff like that here. I can set a time parameter of 10:00 for it to turn off the lights by trigering iftt, and it works without anything else

clever mortar
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You do that

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Home Assistant does it for you

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Home Automation is what happens when you take a Smart Home and add brains

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I almost never use a UI to interact with the house

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Heck, I almost never use voice control

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Lights come on and off as required. Reminders are sent to the right person, automatically. Left a window open when you left the house, the last person to leave gets the ping about it

fickle terrace
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oh right, thats another thing. You can manage multiple people?

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How would what you said work?

clever mortar
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It just works

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You simply build in logic for it

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Hell, I have my front camera stream to the smart display of the occupied room, not any old random room, automatically when "interesting" motion is detected, not just any old motion

low harness
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Various cooperating methods, phones connected on wifi, ble tracking, schedules, cameras. Lots of ways to find out who left last.

fickle terrace
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But how would you trigger to close a window after the last person leaves a house? Do you install apps on everyone's phone that uses location tracking and have a device on each window?

clever mortar
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For people, I don't use apps for home/away, I use local (WiFi and Bluetooth) detection, plus logic

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I don't auto-close windows, I just have sensors

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Basically, HA (and other Automation platforms) give you the ability to build automated logic into your house, so that things happen without you having to push buttons

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For example, my alarm goes off in the morning. The bedside light comes on automatically. If I'm going to work (not right now obviously) I'll get a voice notification telling me about my upcoming commute, and that changes according to where I'm going that day (according to my calendar)

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Or, I'm coming home from work, when I'm getting closer to home the wife gets a notification that I'm on my way and will be home in X minutes (using live traffic info) so that she can ask me to swing by the shops if we need something

fickle terrace
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Yea, these use cases sound interesting.

clever mortar
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Some people automate their fishtanks, their greenhouse (watering, heating, vents, etc), and far more

fickle terrace
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Maybe something like if the weather is going to be colder tomorrow, turn up the temperature tomorrow.

orchid rose
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Once you get everything integrated, what you can do with it, is quite simply up to you. I haven't figured out what I couldn't do yet

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weather as you mentioned is easy to do too

clever mortar
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I have one that sends a voice notification if an outside door is left open and it's below 5C outside, but only after 10 minutes

fickle terrace
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Also is there ring integration? I'm looking at some articles, and I think if I can hook up facial recognition to the ring camera so that it unlocks the door whenever it recognizes my face, that may be pretty interesting

clever mortar
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Somebody else was working on a setup that would auto close a skylight if rain was forecast, or if a leak sensor detected water in the skylight area

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You're limited primarily by your curiosity, patience, and desires

jagged mantle
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Am i the only one who always gets confused by the Supervisor version scheme? like 3.7 is build 7 while 3.13 is build 13 and not build 1.3

clever mortar
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And yes, you are

jagged mantle
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okay lmao

clever mortar
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That's standard version numbering, HA is 0.109.3 right now, not 0.1.0.9.3

orchid rose
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You'll get used to the logic at some point as most projects use the same numbering. 7<13

light trout
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@jagged mantle you are super confused, the supervisor is at 220

jagged mantle
light trout
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OS != Supervisor

clever mortar
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😂

jagged mantle
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but i cant say hassio beacuse then someone is gonna complain at me xD

clever mortar
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Yup 😉

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It doesn't exist

forest edge
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I say hassio all the time, just ask ^

clever mortar
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Yeah, but you're purple, you're allowed to be forgetful 😛

forest edge
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lol

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even still says hassio in the url

light trout
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And that really does not make sense anyway, since "hassio"/"Home Assistant" does not have a version, that is the collective name of your "package"

clever mortar
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Some decade they'll fix that

light trout
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the issue with changing is that core determine the path the frontend should use, and for the supervisor panel, the files are in the supervisor repo, which has it's own release schedule.
You can have core 0.82, with supervisor 220

clever mortar
light trout
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I think there is a PR open to change that

clever mortar
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People will still be calling it hassio a year after the last trace is purged from the docs and the UI 😛

forest edge
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well not just the docs, the url in HA says hassio

light trout
orchid rose
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like when companies change their names, it should say "Home Assistant, formerly known as Hass.io"

hushed basalt
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Looks like salt servers have been used for cryptomining

clever mortar
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That gets fun, "Home Assistant Core, formerly known as Home Assistant. Home Assistant, formerly known as Hass.io" 😄

forest edge
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honestly simple HA is way more easier than anything else

clever mortar
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HA, HAC, HACS, 🎉

forest edge
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well hacs needs to be baked into HA then it as well would just be HA lol

clever mortar
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HA(C)(S)

forest edge
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how does that sound Ludeeus.. Addon Store formely known as HACS?

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lmao

fickle terrace
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Another kind of nooby question. If I understand a supervisor correctly, its basically just a task/process manager, but what is the difference between running it supervised or on docker (as well as benefits/downsides)?

clever mortar
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Supervised gives you point-n-click for installing other software, and snapshots
Other methods mean you install software yourself, and back it up however you want

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If you're already at home on Docker, IMO go Docker

fickle terrace
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Point n click and installing software yourself? Im confused.

orchid rose
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There are add-ons you can easily install with supervised. Basically other programs running in docker with your HA install

forest edge
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it just gives you more UI oriented control and options.

velvet horizonBOT
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An add-on is a Docker container with tweaks to allow it to be configured in the Supervisor UI. It is only available in the Supervised install since if you've used any other install method you're able to install software already.

Command '~addon' was invoked by: Tinkerer
orchid rose
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Everything you can do with supervised you can do manually as well, but supervised makes it easier for us noobs

fickle terrace
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what's the difference with the add on store for supervisor and docker. Does some not work on docker?

clever mortar
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Add-ons only work with the Supervisor

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See above 😉

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An add-on is a Docker container with tweaks to allow it to be configured in the Supervisor UI. It is only available in the Supervised install since if you've used any other install method you're able to install software already.

forest edge
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uh oh atx is awake!

clever mortar
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Think of the Supervised method as an automatic car, with auto steer, auto brake, auto wipers, auto headlights... Docker is a standard automatic, and venv is your old school manual.

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Pick your desired level of control/point-n-click

fickle terrace
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so the supervisor method manages the docker containers for you?

clever mortar
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The add-ons, yes

clear ferry
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The performance with virtio is quite nice actually
Timing cached reads: 13880 MB in 1.99 seconds = 6961.46 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 2202 MB in 3.00 seconds = 732.99 MB/sec

fickle terrace
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Does the supervisor also do things such as show you server statistics compared to docker?

clever mortar
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No, it's more aimed at the less technical audience IMO - "appliance like experience" is what the devs have said before

clear ferry
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Idiotproof, though it doesn't function it seems 🤣

fickle terrace
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so its solely addons ?

clever mortar
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Well, depends what you mean by that

fickle terrace
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or I guess also making it easier to manage?

clever mortar
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That's the goal

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Whether it's working... 🤷 😛

forest edge
fickle terrace
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How much more difficult is it to use with docker?

clever mortar
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Do you already know Docker?

fickle terrace
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Yep

clever mortar
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Then "not at all" and "possibly easier for you"

forest edge
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stuff from that hassio channel needs to be saved if they evver decide to delete that

clever mortar
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All you "miss" with native Docker are add-ons (woo, so I'll just spin up a container myself) and snapshots (ok, I'll do actual backups)

clear ferry
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you should rather look at my drawings @forest edge I'm getting so good with draw.io dancedogpls

forest edge
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so complex server instructions as stick figures? sounds good @clear ferry

clear ferry
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😦

clever mortar
fickle terrace
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I think I get it now. With the addons store, it just starts the docker container for you and kind of manages it, but without it, you just have to start it yourself.

forest edge
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@clear ferry you ever get your rf bridge code figured out?

clear ferry
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the one I mentioned two days ago ?

forest edge
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yea lol

clear ferry
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LIKE I HAVE TIME FOR THAT JIBBA JABBA

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I might get time this week, working from home for three days now, and have some free time between meetings

forest edge
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you been working "from home" for like 2 months!

clear ferry
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sure, but I've been watching the baby for 70% of that time 🤣

forest edge
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I don't blame you tho, I haven't done squat either lol

fickle terrace
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I'm looking a bit deeper and it seems like there are certain plugins such as ada which are not available as individual containers, what about those? @clever mortar

clever mortar
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Do you mean "add-on" when you say plugin?

fickle terrace
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yea sorry addon

clever mortar
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Well, they're all Docker containers, so probably there's one out there. If not it's not that hard to build your own image if that matters to you

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But, at the end of the day, your choice about how you run. There's no right or wrong, just choices 😉

clear ferry
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I'm probably the most wrong choice for anyone

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Now that I'm repurposing my docker host for esxi I'll be running 3 hypervisors, 2 container enviroments and jails

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🤣

clever mortar
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I.... words fail

clear ferry
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😦

clever mortar
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Or is it that I feel like I'm somehow needing to upgrade my home server setup 🤔

forest edge
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the amount of pc related crap you run atx do you even need to use a heater?

clear ferry
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have you heard about our -35 CENTIGRADE

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🤣

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but that said, I have powered off my blade enclosure, so it's just a 2U rack server, a mini-itx chassis, my laptops and my switches that run constantly

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I should get my hands on a used 3PAR 7000 with SSDs though 🤔

forest edge
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thats alot lol

clear ferry
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that should be power efficient

clever mortar
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Blades are awesome

clear ferry
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it's not that much, I used to have 6 2U rack servers, plus 15U of network switches powered at all times 🤣

hushed basalt
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Got my new heatsink and thermal paste today

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Time to make my desktop a little quieter

forest edge
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my one desktop pc causes me to open a window in the middle of winter and that's with the house heater on lol

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I need to think about water cooler lol

hushed basalt
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I just got a tower block

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AIO water cooler wasn't worth it for my use

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All water cooling does it give you the potential to have a larger heatsink

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120mm silent fans on the block should be enough

forest edge
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it keeps the overall temps lower

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so less heat being thrown into the room

hushed basalt
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More heat thrown into the room

fickle terrace
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Some of these addons though look pretty interesting. For example, adguard home which integrates directly into the ui.

forest edge
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less heat as in not as hot

hushed basalt
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It pulls more heat away from your cpu

forest edge
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my bad, bad choice of words,. i meant temp of the heat

clear ferry
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adguard 🤢

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Gotta see those ads for "hot single dogs in your area"

modest smelt
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What's wrong with adguard 😛

clear ferry
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🦮

hushed basalt
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You need something to protect you from all those warez you use atxbyea

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Ones with midi songs that certainly don't lay cryptomining daemons

clear ferry
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DNSBL > Adguard @modest smelt

hushed basalt
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Speaking of background processes

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Wtf is with chromecast not having any sort of display management

forest edge
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even with the rpi4 having a gigabit nic I still wouldn't route all my traffic through it for nothing lol

hushed basalt
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Turn.. offf.. the.. display...

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I don't want to burn out my oled and power bill with a neverending slideshow

modest smelt
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But

clear ferry
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lol chromecast, aren't all tvs smart today anyway ?

modest smelt
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Adguard is a DNSBL?

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🤔

hushed basalt
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Need chromecast for chromecast

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Not that many tvs have chromecast built in

clear ferry
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@modest smelt but but, pfBlockerNG !

modest smelt
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No sorry

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You've invalidated your claim

clear ferry
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😢

modest smelt
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Go back to jail, do not pass go

hushed basalt
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Do not collect your socialist UBI

clever mortar
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But, he's already got a bunch of jails? Which one should he go to?

forest edge
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whichever one that doesn't serve cherries

clear ferry
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

modest smelt
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Also it's kinda hard to use pfblockerng without pfsense? 😛

hushed basalt
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I need to get pfsense rolling

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I'm going to put it on one of my nodes

clear ferry
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yeah, I ran it on pfsense for years, but I recently moved to opnsense, and haven't bothered looking into setting up their version of it

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15+ years on pfsense, a few months on opnsense so far

hushed basalt
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I need find a nic card though

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Dual vs quad, hmmm

modest smelt
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dual 10 gig

clear ferry
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10G ? what is this ? networking for ants ?

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🤣

modest smelt
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NeTwOrKiNg FoR aNtS

clear ferry
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Ahcksuahly

hushed basalt
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10g is pricey though

modest smelt
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No it's not

clear ferry
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pricey ? you can get cards for 30$

hushed basalt
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I'm Australian

modest smelt
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ok $30 AUD

hushed basalt
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$30USD and $160 postage sort of crap

clear ferry
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must be some used ones in BARBIE country

hushed basalt
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Plus aren't those suckers powerhungry even idle

clear ferry
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not modern ones

hushed basalt
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Hmmm

clear ferry
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the chips from 2006\7 were a pita

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the ones from 2011 and newer are pretty good

hushed basalt
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Well I do want to go 10g on all of then anyway

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I can put a base-t rj45 sfp module in a sfp+ right?

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It's backwards compatible?

clear ferry
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so, like HP 530 \ 535 \ 551 \ 553 \ 554 \ 650 \ 651 are good choices

low harness
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Hey! Symlink Synergy works even if one computer is connected to a VPN nowadays! Awesome!

clear ferry
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10G-BaseT needs to be specifically supported in the card, so I doubt it

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Then you need to look for a 10G-BaseT card itself, and those can be pricey

hushed basalt
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Stay away from 522?

clear ferry
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oooof

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yes

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that is so damn hot

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all the 52x cards

hushed basalt
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That's what's for sale on ebay for $40 range

clear ferry
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had to run servers on increased cooling to keep them cool

hushed basalt
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Hehe

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My server uses 20w on idle. Funny if the card used more than that

clear ferry
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what is this ? servers for ants ? 🤣

fickle terrace
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You know i do have a raspberry pi 3b, but I feel like it would be a waste not using the expensive server I bought for hosting my self hosted applications, you know? These decisions are so dang hard.

clear ferry
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RPIs are fun, toys

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not servers

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is my opinion

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🤣

hushed basalt
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I agree. Go x86 or go home

fickle terrace
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Another question, is it possible to use the supervised version of home assistant in docker?

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cause technically, it's possible to run docker in docker if you run it privileged

hushed basalt
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Just use core

fickle terrace
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but addons

hushed basalt
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Hassio in docker

clever mortar
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See the pinned image you were linked to 😉

hushed basalt
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Damn the bot is down

clever mortar
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You can't run supervised in Docker it uses Docker

fickle terrace
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but you can run docker in docker

clear ferry
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has everyone bought up the good broadcom and intel cards during corona 🤔 @hushed basalt

clever mortar
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Have fun with that

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Yes, you can, but... you're on your own there

hushed basalt
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Where is Whiskerz. Did he ping everyone too many times

clear ferry
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@mødz

hushed basalt
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Atmawds

clever mortar
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Basically, if you want to do weird ass stuff like Docker in Docker, you're on your own for dealing with any problems

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Things will break

hushed basalt
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The sort of people who pull the air filter out of their car because it impedes airflow

forest edge
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or cause a singularity event

clever mortar
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I'm thinking more of the folks who put three tonnes of stuff in the boot of their compact car

hushed basalt
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@clear ferry how much ram do you think a pfsense instance needs

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Considering no vpn and <100mbit wan

low harness
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This is so nice! If you are working from home, you really should check out Synergy. Sharing mouse and keyboard between several computers. It feels just like a secondary (but sliiiightly laggy) monitor. Just move the mouse over, and you're on the other computer.

clear ferry
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docker on docker, gotta go deeper, do hyper-v with a windows vm, running virtualbox, with proxmox inside it, then install esxi inside that, nest kvm inside it, then run docker with docker inside it

hushed basalt
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Atxbyea is a synergy mascot

clear ferry
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been using it for 10+ years @low harness it's great

hushed basalt
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Told you

forest edge
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@low harness you know that's been out for like almost 20 years

clear ferry
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I used it over windows\linux\macos even

low harness
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Me too, I think. I got a pro version for free for being one of the first demo users or something. Don't even remember.

hushed basalt
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It's not high dpi friendly

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And version 2 has been in beta since the beginning of time

clear ferry
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it had some bugs when I was running World Of Warcraft in Linux, and moved the mouse over to my windows machine on the left

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it would sometimes bring up the map

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🤣

fickle terrace
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I'm looking at this warning. Since I already run kubernetes and docker swarm, I'm debating if I should avoid using the supervised version

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hushed basalt
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Supervised is not for people running kube

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Just run core!!!

low harness
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I've had problems with VPNs before. My work computer requires a vpn connection, and then I would be unable to find the server on the local network. But it seems our current solution works.

hushed basalt
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Give it a single replica with some health checks and let it float around your nodes if it dies

clear ferry
#

you probably run split vpn now then @low harness

fickle terrace
#

Alright alright. Dangit my lazy plans to have addons for easy install even though I probably will barely actually use them.

forest edge
#

it had some bugs when I was running World Of Warcraft in Linux, and moved the mouse over to my windows machine on the left
@clear ferry if you ran wow in linux back then I feel sorry for those who played with you with your crappy fps lol

clear ferry
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pff, I was just playing casual by then

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stopped playing seriously in... 2009ish

low harness
#

I'll just assume you're right. Neve bothered to learn vpn, because ssh exists.

clear ferry
#

🤣

clever mortar
#

VPNs are ... convenient

#

I've been running them for... crap, "a long time"

low harness
#

Actually, that's not true. I have a vpn server running on pfsense for my phone and stuff.

clever mortar
#

I run one two at home for remote access

clear ferry
#

I think I setup my first vpn in 2004 or something, before that i just exposed everything to the internet, with passwords of course 🤣

#

vnc over internet was actually practical in norwegian internet in the late 90s

forest edge
#

lmao

clear ferry
#

we got 1Mbit cable in 99 I think it was 🤔

low harness
#

In 2004 I was still on dialup...

clear ferry
#

no, it had to be less

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becuase we got adsl 1mbit in 01

hushed basalt
#

Australia just rolled out DSL and cable

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Literally :'(

forest edge
#

you sure about that 90's statement atx? I didn't think norway upgraded from shoestring to any kind of metal/glass wire till after the 2000's

clear ferry
#

don't get me started on MUUURICA that had prevelance of dialup until a few years ago 🤣

forest edge
#

at least we didn't have cardboard cups attached to string and paying monthly for family to family plan calling

hushed basalt
#

A lot of them were just happy to get enough internet for outlook express to receive the walmart catalogue

clear ferry
#

🤣

forest edge
#

oh don't get me started on those mail catalogs people use to order crap from

#

that was horrible

clear ferry
#

all I have to say is

forest edge
#

people would not only pay to have the catalog delivered but then overpay for the junk inside it

hushed basalt
#

@clear ferry if you want a laugh set your ebay to Australia and search for second hand rackmount servers

low harness
#

HOLY LATE 90-s BATMAN

hushed basalt
#

You'll see people flogging off R710s for like $1k

clear ferry
#

I used to order stuff from him in the mid 90s @low harness

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🤣

#

his mail order catalogue looked just like the webpage

hushed basalt
#

The price is not only the price of the item but your monthly power bill

forest edge
#

they probably have to adjust the pricing to account for the roo encounters upon delivery

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damn roo's probably wear gang colors and surround the fed-ex truck

#

dhl whatever it is you all have

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actually if it is dhl i see where the over price comes from, holy hell those price gouging bastards can go to hell

rare condor
#

Seriously though all server kit is really expensive here

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I had to pay for $300 AUD for a Supermicro X9SRI-F (LGA2011 Socket)

hearty depot
#

I need a new server 😦
reccomentions for an ITX case with spare space for 2x3.5HHDs?

clear ferry
#

three containers left to move aniblobsweat

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zigbee2mqtt, mosquitto, mariadb

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just the.... most critical ones

clever mortar
#

Silverstone DS380B

hearty depot
#

Thats why supervised is such a beauty

clear ferry
#

Supermicro btw 🤢

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supervised 🤢

rare condor
#

Better than IBM Lenovo at least and HP

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Dell, Supermicro FTW

clear ferry
#

yeah, I don't know, I see tens of thousands of servers per year, and the ones customers are the least happy with are supermicro 🤣

rare condor
#

fanboiiiii

clear ferry
#

fine for shitkids, shitty for enterprise

rare condor
#

I own 1 home server

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it works

#

I am happy

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😄

#

Anyone know what to do to stop it rusting 🤷‍♂️

tough igloo
#

WD40 will sort it out

rare condor
#

WD40 will get rid of rust, long term do I need to oil it or coat it or soemthing?

clever mortar
#

There's "kurust" for dealing with the existing rust

tough igloo
#

Sand the rust off is what I do sometimes then spray some WD40 but there’s probably better stuff

forest edge
#

paint is about the only thing that will prevent rust for long durations

clear ferry
#

I should probably start purging my database, when moving it now I notice events is 2GB and states is 1GB

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🤣

#

my whole mariadb was actually 8GB

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and I guess 6.5 of those are HA

forest edge
#

what are you moving your HA to? a windows server?

clear ferry
#

it's already running in a freenas plugin

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I'm just moving all my docker containers from a physical host to a vm

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so I can repurpose the host for vsphere7

modest smelt
#

@hearty depot bitphenix phenom

hushed basalt
#

WD40 is a water disperant

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It's in the name :D

modest smelt
#

WD on a chain is good

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before you also oil it

tough igloo
#

What’s the 40 stand for? Years aged?

modest smelt
#

formula 40

hushed basalt
#

Formulation number 40

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Mk 40 basically

clear ferry
#

@clever mortar thou who knoweth more about mqtt than me, if I move my mqtt to a new host, and it has a new IP, remove the integration in HA then add it back with the new integration (without merging the brokers) stuff should just populate there just as before right ? 🤔 HA already knows the devices, and should just see that is the same devices as before, or will all be appended a _2 at the end ?

tough igloo
#

Like scotch in a barrel?

hushed basalt
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Like number of attempts

clever mortar
#

the devices will repopulate it, so it should "just work" @clear ferry - you may need to restart/poke the devices to get them to re-issue the Discovery message though

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Things shouldn't duplicate, but Discovery seems to be a "bit" random chaos monkey

clear ferry
#

lets.... find out

hushed basalt
#

@rare condor you probably want some form of grease

rare condor
#

yeah planning on silicone spray from bunnings

hushed basalt
#

I wouldn't use wd40

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It's a solvent and it's too aggressive

#

The solvent in wd40 will get into the lube in the chain links and strip them out

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I've used white lithium grease for this sort of stuff but sewing machine oil may be safer

young sigil
#

WD40 also turns to wax after a while. Never spray it in a lock. Ask me how I know.

hushed basalt
forest edge
#

WD40 also turns to wax after a while. Never spray it in a lock. Ask me how I know.
@young sigil hmm was this a lock that only saw a key once every 5 years or something? never had it happen to me

forest edge
#

just spent all night reworking my holiday automations, hope i didn't shoot myself in the foot lol

hushed basalt
#

You should be okay as long as you double checked your foot shooting robot

clear ferry
#

@clever mortar looks good so far, my docker didn't want to play nice, so I moved it to a jail, and voila, stuff just works, long live jails 🤣

clever mortar
#

😄

clear ferry
#

just one container left to move

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zigbee2mqtt

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but I already have the pi ready for it, so it will go back there

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I should get a faster USB stick for my Rpi

clear ferry
#

actually replaced my first xiaomi sensor battery now

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it was starting to behave badly

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the first sensor I installed, close to 1.5 years ago, but it's also the most used door in the house and I don't know how old the battery was in the sensor when I installed it, because the xiomi ones don't have a pull tab 🤔

green inlet
#

Uhm.....did you say pi?

clear ferry
#

yes 🤢

green inlet
#

Lmao

clear ferry
#

it's running just zigbee2mqtt currently, since I want it seperate from everything else

green inlet
#

👍🏻

hearty depot
#

and MQTT?

clear ferry
#

that's the whitest thumbs up I've seen in my life

#

that runs in a jail in bsd @hearty depot

hearty depot
#

so no lights for you when bsd is down - nice

clear ferry
#

BSD ever goes down ? 🤔

#

It's not windows

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🤣

green inlet
#

Only one white thumbs up available?

clear ferry
#

👍

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I'm used to it being yellow

green inlet
#

👍🏼

clear ferry
green inlet
#

Well, last I checked, my liver was functioning properly

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Of course, that is always subject to change

clear ferry
green inlet
#

I am a simple man 🤣

clear ferry
hushed basalt
green inlet
green inlet
#

#MomsOfTikTok 😍

last dirge
#

it's pretty crazy to think that pretty much since I was born there have been a large percentage of people that if you asked them "what do you want to do when you grow up?" end up doing something that didn't exist at the time you asked them that question

green inlet
#

TikTok and YouTube popular seems to be one of them.

last dirge
#

"who would watch this shit?"

#

also me: "let's watch this guy build a house out of mud"

clever mortar
#

🤣

clear ferry
#

fuuuuuuu

#

trying to install esxi7 on my now avaliable host

#

but one keyboard the F11 key doesn't work on, and the other it won't work in the installer when I get there 🤣

#

even though they keyboard works in the BIOS

green inlet
#

Try f10 + 1

clear ferry
#

🤣

#

if it only was serial I could do esc+?

last dirge
#

why does nobody want to do their damn job?

clever mortar
#

Because you can do it for them?

last dirge
#

me: hey infrastructure team, I need this application server installed on this machine

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infrastructure: can't you do it?

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me: no, I don't have privs

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infrastructure: you've got limited sudo now

#

fast forward a year

clever mortar
#

What, no "infrastructure as code"?

last dirge
#

infrastructure: we're going to set up SSL on that application server you asked us to install

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me: that's not the right way to handle that, you should do this instead

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infrastructure: now that you've said that, it's your responsibility

#

so they were going to go to all of the trouble to set up and configure SSL and they were fine with the workload that would then be required when certificates rolled

#

but asking them to update the config files for the server and maintain them is too much

clever mortar
#

What level of incompetent/unwilling to learn idiocy is this 🤔

#

Automate it
Standardise it

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Manage it with Puppet/Chef/Ansible/$otherTool

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Sit back, drink $drink, and chill while the dashboard stays green

last dirge
#

me: hey, can I get a box somewhere to install a Salt master so I can automate all of this?

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infrastructure: nah, it's not in the budget

clever mortar
#

Somebody needs slapped upside the head

#

Or maybe on the receiving end of the orbital drop of a clue-by-four

last dirge
#

when I started at this place I was working on a particular project and one of the developers sent me an "onboarding document" that included a step called "how to build the software"

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which included shelling into a remote host, running a shell script, then using SCP to copy the artifact back to localhost

clever mortar
#

Your cow-orkers, they are still living in the stone age?

last dirge
#

they were

#

I immediately nuked their SVN repository and rebuilt it

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"to build the application run mvn install"

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them: "this is too difficult"

clever mortar
#

🤦

#

This explains why your avatar has no hair 🤔

last dirge
#

third week on the job they tell me "you're responsible for handling the nightly restarts"

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I say "what the hell does that mean?" and they say "you have to log in to the web app at 7PM, do this function to alert the users that the system will restart at 8PM and then at 8PM restart the server"

green inlet
#

I used to wake-up every day and spend a majority of my time running into brick walls. After a long while, I figured out the only thing happening was I was getting a headache. Now I just CYA and move on. 3 years later, look what we are doing. I am like glad you finally caught up

last dirge
#

so I ask "how long have you been doing this?"

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"3 years now"

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so I wrote a cron job to curl the login URL, grab the session cookie, POST to the thing to set the restart message

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then another job to restart the machine

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then I fixed the reason they were having to restart the app server

clever mortar
#

Lazy? Incompetent? Worried they're unemployable elsewhere? Stupid? All of the above?

last dirge
#

but they still restart it every night anyway

#

dude, every time I get imposter syndrome creeping in I remember all of that shit

#

usually calms me right down

#

they didn't have any automation at all

#

I set up a CI server

amber bramble
#

I spent most of my first year at my current job learning the infrastructure and then automating as much of it as I could

#

My boss basically said a good sysadmin should be able to spend half of the day sitting in his office watching netflix and just keeping an eye on things to respond if they break

last dirge
#

it's true

amber bramble
#

so its nice to have a good boss and not one of those "well if this is automated why are we paying you" bosses

last dirge
#

the infrastructure guys at this joint always seem to be in fire drill mode

amber bramble
#

my previous job was like that, everything was on fire 100% of the time

#

but when a lower level person like me suggested fairly simple infrastructure changes (like using dhcp instead of static IPs for 3500 machines) it gets immediately shot down

#

yeah... they were using static ip assignments, not even dhcp reservations, on over 3500 computers...

last dirge
#

it usually devolves into me getting limited sudo because they "don't have time to support" me

#

and something is fucky with the RHN subscription so half the time apt doesn't work

amber bramble
#

which was great because as people moved offices they might end up on a different subnet and we'd have to walk over to the building, find their machine, log inw ith local admin credentials, change the IP address, then log in to the DNS server and update their record

last dirge
#

so they end up having to do it anyhow

#

@amber bramble yikes

amber bramble
#

i also loved the way they had folder redirection setup. If there was any network latency at all or a fileserver went down you either couldn't log in period, or the computer would just freeze for minutes at a time. found out they were storing things like the chrome cache on the network shares

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i should also mention instead of using active directory or LDAP for logins they ran a custom-written account/password syncing tool that copied everyone's accounts out to every *nix machine. If someone changed their password from a windows machine, it updated active directory, and then the custom tool saw it and had to contact every *nix box to pass the new password to it

#

it was wild

last dirge
#

yikes

tepid bear
#

Often in tutorials i see schematics like this. Which program do they use to make this?

📎 unknown.png
unkempt geyser
#

Fritzing

low harness
#

I think there's something called Fritzing or something...

#

Ah. A second too late.

unkempt geyser
#

lol

tepid bear
#

ty

unkempt geyser
#

The component library in Fritzing is great and often if you can't find one in the built in libraries you can find one with a quick search of the sensor name and Fritzing.

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One from me then. What is the name of the software that lets you detect objects in video streams? Is that Blue Iris or something else?

tepid bear
#

OpenCV?

clear ferry
#

need to check out fritzing, I haven't drawn layouts since I used ORCAD

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close to 20 years ago 🤣

humble pond
#

@unkempt geyser - TensorFlow is integrated in Home Assistant. There are also variations that use it such as DOODS. Every cloud computing company also has their paid service to do the same, AWS is Rekognition.

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Sighthound is another one that’s integrated, but paid.

unkempt geyser
#

^ TensorFlow. That is the kid. Thanks for all the suggestions.

humble pond
#

I built the TF integration. Feel free to ping me if you have trouble getting it set up. (Do your best first 😬)

clever mortar
#

Doods... is awesome, since my HA host doesn't have the raw grunt to run TF locally 😄

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TF itself is awesome

unkempt geyser
#

Awesome. Kind offer. I may just do that after I have had a play around with it. Thanks again.

empty fjord
#

Hello there! I dont know if that question belongs here, but when should I use a Raspberry with HA and when should I use a PC ?

clever mortar
#

You should use a Pi for learning, and a PC when you care

unkempt geyser
#

Keeping on topic but is there anything anyone would recommend for a timelapse? Source feed is ESP32cam.

humble pond
#

@clever mortar is right. If you want to distribute the processing power, use DOODS. It’s better maintained as well (though the built in TF integration hasn’t really needed any maintenance)

clever mortar
unkempt geyser
#

Thanks. Will do.

empty fjord
#

@clever mortar Well, if you would provide Hassio as a service to costumers you should use PCs then? I mean, Raspberry as little and inexpensive, thats why I was thinking about them

clever mortar
#

Running it as a service for others... sure, but make damn sure you're running on SSD not SD, or you've invested in industrial SD cards and a robust and well tested recovery system. Actually, you need that anyway 😉

#

A Pi3/Pi4 is enough for small to medium setups, but I noticed a massive performance boost moving the same setup off a Pi3 to an old laptop

empty fjord
#

@clever mortar Why old school? LOL

clever mortar
#

~irc @empty fjord

velvet horizonBOT
#

@empty fjord Discord isn't like IRC, you don't have to tag people on every response. Keep in mind that every time you tag somebody, they get a notification ping. That can very quickly become annoying and people may block you.

Command '~irc' was invoked by: Tinkerer
clever mortar
#

Because, it's not been called that in "some time" see the link

silent canyon
#

hey guys what are my options if I want to make a few smoke& CO detectors smart? I know that I could replace them , but that is not currently an option as that would be fairly expensive since I have about 9 to replace.

scenic radish
#

see if there's a zigbee/z-wave smoke alarm listener

clever mortar
#

Somebody did a "smart" battery at one point

proven pasture
#

toying with the idea of changing my nuc running lots of docker containers over to hass.io

#

i.e. running home assistant core docker and node red docker and mqtt docker at the moment + more, but I know that hass.io does it in one

#

anyone got a view on that!? pros / cons

clever mortar
#

IMO it's largely person preference, depends on what you want

proven pasture
#

fair enough and thanks. I just keep thinking all those addons would be great. But also i think, if it ain't broke, stay where I am!

wet pilot
#

Anyone in here in the Charlotte, NC area and knows how to splice a fiber line?

clever mortar
#

Have you been the victim of the dreaded Fibre Seeking Back-hoe?

wet pilot
#

Worse, unburied line was hit by a neighbor with a lawnmower

clever mortar
#

Doh

#

There's a bit here, and here, and here, and here, and ...

wet pilot
#

And att has been useless because there's a bury line ticket already open so they refuse to send someone out

clever mortar
wet pilot
#

Yeah, it's been amazing

clever mortar
#

So, you're saying, the monopoly continues to suck...

#

Everything I hear about US telecoms makes me think that maybe BT ain't so bad after all...

wet pilot
#

I actually have a choice here but still

#

When it's working, att is cheaper and better with FTTH

clever mortar
#

🤣

wet pilot
#

Vs spectrum who is DOCSIS

clever mortar
#

Right now if I could get cable I would, it'd be way better than what I get otherwise

#

At this rate though, I'll have FTTP before cable

wet pilot
#

Lol

clever mortar
#

The Cable rollout started... 18 months ago or so, it's still nowhere near us

#

FTTP started a few months ago, and they're already in the local area preparing things

strange vapor
#

Laying new cable has stopped here for now 😦 Just maintainence being done during the Covid lockdown. Otherwise I'd have a nice GigE upgrade already.

rapid sierra
#

HI, bought a aircon with smartlife. A climate entity showed up but it don't work more or less att all, tried all services and only one that worked is the turning the aircon off. Has anyone experianced this?

clear ferry
#

You guys and your third world internet

clever mortar
clear ferry
proven pasture
#

i switched from BT "fibre" to Virgin Media (cable) last week...

#

went from 50/10 to 350/30

#

I've kept the BT connection going for a bit... will cut it off eventually... it's just the landline though - I need one, as no mobile reception in this house - but what about VOIP these days...?

#

would love to ditch the landline and go 100% IP.

#

anyway - pretty happy with the VIrgin Media Cable Service... FWIW...

silent canyon
#

Looking for some advice. I just got a new Synology Ds918 NAS, and have been trying to decide what drives I want to purchase for it. Currently in my older system I have a 4TB that is about 3/4 full. my new system will hold up to 4 14TB HDD for a total of 56TB😀 . I know crazy. It was awesome when the 1TB came out . So I am trying to decide do I spend the money and buy 1 of the 4 14TB that my system can take or do I get something a bit less and once I get closer to filling that one up as well then add more drive or larger drives.

scenic radish
#

look for a deal on one of those shuckable external drives

clear ferry
#

350/30

#

That sounds like internet 10 years ago

scenic radish
clear ferry
#

@silent canyon I bought 4 X 10 TV last year, 200 something USD each, I know in the us they got the same drives for 160ish

#

Brb call my baby X Æ A-12

spare canopy
#

hi all i read somewhere tp-link mode KP200 wifi inwall outlet work locally with HA without the need of flashing to Tasmota. Is that true

#

need to do some upgrade in the house and what to change out some outlet

clear ferry
#

According to docs, sure

#

It's supported

scenic radish
#

yep, tp-link kasa smart plugs/switches use a local api

clear ferry
#

I was hoping my 12GB host would suffice for a vsphere 7 lab, but vcenter has gotten so bulky, might need to nag my boss for a cute gen9 server with 96GB or something

spare canopy
#

👍 perfect and not through mqtt correct or still need to go through mqtt broker

clear ferry
#

No

rare condor
#

Just bought Plex Pass, man its expensive

last plaza
#

it was on sale yesterday - lifetime membership for $99

clear ferry
#

I bought lifetime many years ago, 59usd or something

spare canopy
#

oh nice ok i'll go order one to check

rare condor
#

It still was on sale

#

I used may the forth code

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still works

spare canopy
#

any other good inwall outlet that work on local api other then TP-link anyone know

last plaza
#

wemo switches

spare canopy
#

oh didnt know wemo make inwall receptacle

#

want inwall receptacle style dont like the attach ones

#

hmm look like there an bunch of one on amazom but probably need to be converted to tasmota

last dirge
#

any Z-wave stuff

#

any Zigbee stuff

spare canopy
#

im planning to do both about 8 z-wave outlet and 15 wifi

last dirge
#

one of those will be significantly more reliable than the other

#

guess which?

spare canopy
#

havent found any inwall zigbee outlet

last dirge
#

that was with just a quick search

spare canopy
#

yeah not sure about someting with 5 rating and not UL listed 😋

last dirge
#

cheap and UL listed are mutually exclusive, BTW

spare canopy
#

yes i getting those for zwave

#

probably 8 or 10 for an good mesh

rare condor
#

anyone own a xiaomi robot vaccum, if so which one? not sure if I should get it as integration seems to rely on token which xiaomi has been changing with fw updates

spare canopy
#

to cover the house

last dirge
#

@rare condor I've got a Roborock S4

rare condor
#

Recommend it?

last dirge
#

it's a kickass vacuum

rare condor
#

I was looking at s5 or t7

last dirge
#

I gave up on integrating it with hass

rare condor
#

really?

last dirge
#

yeah

rare condor
#

it doesn't work at all?

last dirge
#

I can't force it to "forget" about the Roborock app

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so I can't register it with MiHome to get the token

spare canopy
#

i wouldnt mind spending on some good zigbee inwall outlet.. But dont seem to find any

rare condor
#

Thanks you have convinced me not to get one

#

sounds terrible, lock in apps

last dirge
#

it's a great vacuum though

#

@rare condor they're both Xiaomi apps

#

MiHome is older

rare condor
#

sure but all I care about is how good the web server is on my vaccum 😛

#

not its vaccum performance

last dirge
#

if you don't get one with LIDAR, you're a fool

silent canyon
#

@scenic radish only issue I see with that is 1) you have no idea what type of drive you are getting . I was thinking to use the Ironwolf drives for my new nas. 2) it also appears that the drives in the enclosure are slightly slower than the internal drives.

last dirge
#

so pull on your big boy pants and buy WD Reds or Purples

#

and spend a grand on 4 drives

rare condor
spare canopy
#

are these any good

scenic radish
#

no clue, but you're gonna want to check for home assistant support before buying

last dirge
#

@scenic radish it's Jasco stuff, should be supported

vast lily
#

i think i am going to finally rip the bandaid off and convert from smartthings to hass.io

#

smartthings has gotten so bad

scenic radish
#

@last dirge the one he linked uses wi-fi though

last dirge
#

and is only $5 cheaper than a ZWave+ version

#

but shrug

#

inb4 "my router won't accept any more wifi connections"

#

and "I have too much wifi traffic"

vast lily
#

i am trying to make sure i can get everything i have working with smartthings working with hass.io and the one thing holding me off is i bought a bunch of zigbee sensors while on smartthings. that has been holding me back for a while because it seems like zigbee is not really officially supported

last dirge
#

@vast lily what gave you that idea?

scenic radish
#

not really officially supported by what?

vast lily
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well it seems i have to pick a 3rd party integration to get it working for starters

scenic radish
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nope

last dirge
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false

velvet horizonBOT
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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI. It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented.

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on for Hass.io, in a Docker container, and natively, with no native UI. It uses MQTT for control and configuration, but there are third party UIs. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

Command '.zigbee' was invoked by: Tediore
scenic radish
last dirge
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"zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core"

clever mortar
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Who are you reading the bot messages 🤔

last dirge
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those are libraries, not 3rd parties

clever mortar
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Nobody does that 🤷

vast lily
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yeah and then i look at those pages and i have to buy flashing hardware for one of them

clever mortar
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Zigbee2MQTT

scenic radish
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then don't go with that one if you don't want to

clever mortar
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🤷

vast lily
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well its more i dont know if ic an get said hardware right now

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its not easy to order stuff from china right now

clever mortar
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Look at the zha docs, you've got a wide range of choices, but this belongs in #zigbee-archived

vast lily
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ok

last dirge
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the only thing I've heard people say about zigbee is that it's sometimes difficult to get the stick to work in a containerized environment

clever mortar
scenic radish
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and if i refuse?

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😛

clever mortar
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I'll remove your flipply bois 😛

scenic radish
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you wouldn't

last dirge
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then choose your weapon, take 10 paces, and draw a stick figure

scenic radish
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😱

last dirge
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hey @clever mortar in the sentence "I was searching through the skip" what is "the skip"?

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a dumpster?

clever mortar
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Yeah

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Sort of, but not quite

last dirge
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a specific type?

clever mortar
last dirge
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we call those "roll off containers"

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but they're usually bigger in the US

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I guess that's hard to do in europe due to small streets

clever mortar
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Well, there's various sizes, from mini-skips to full sized things, but all designed to fit on the back of some form of truck

last dirge
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yeah, same with rolloffs

clever mortar
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Skips are also mostly semi-domestic

last dirge
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they've got a truck that either uses cables or cables and a hook to pick them up

clever mortar
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Much the same

last dirge
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then we've also got "dumpsters"

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which are usually commercial and have flip up lids

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and sometimes little sliding doors on the side

clever mortar
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We have the same things

last dirge
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those are usually picked up by a truck with forks

clever mortar
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Yup, commercial waste

last dirge
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I was always fascinated with those trucks as a kid

clever mortar
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It's like the road cleaners, that have a weird setup of hoses and brushes and suction

last dirge
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we have a more alliterative name for those

last plaza
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Skip. Huh? Never heard that term. Always good to learn things!

last dirge
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street sweepers

light trout
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interns?

last plaza
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Those street sweepers have metal brushes. The metal bristles fall off and they are used to pick locks.

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They are perfect to pick locks. Not that I am an expert 🤣

last dirge
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I can't tell where this dude is

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I think he's in Britain

clever mortar
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Lime and plaster is very traditional here

last dirge
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but some stuff he says he sounds like a Kiwi

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@clever mortar that's in his dirt workshop

clever mortar
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Yeah, UK

last dirge
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he's shown his van a view times

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yellow numberplate with black letters

last plaza
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That’s UK

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Ugly license plates. 😛

last dirge
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he's building a hobbit house

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@last plaza have you got yellow plates?

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that means something different up there 😉

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"party plates"

last plaza
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Nope. Ohio is standard white license plates. New York has yellow.

last dirge
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oh, you must not know about party plates

last plaza
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Yup

last dirge
last plaza
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Never heard of them.

last dirge
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court-ordered after a DUI conviction

last plaza
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Ah! I see different type of license plates for classic cars once in a while.

last dirge
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our new ones are all printed

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which seems like it'd make it more difficult to spot a fake

last plaza
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Ours is still old fashioned - stamped.

spare canopy
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ok so my remodel probably not going to start for 1 month. Should i start to preconfig all my switch/outlet/sensor first into HA or should i wait until they actually installed into the house.

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which one is less headade lol

vast dove
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Preconfigure them now, that way you get to do it twice 🤣

last plaza
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Run as many cables as you want everywhere to everywhere!

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Have more outlets and anchor points.

spare canopy
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it going to be about 24 lutron ra2 dimmer, 20 wifi, 10 zwave outlet

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haha.. i know right i got most of these order and seating here. .just want to play with it

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yeah probably should wait 😂

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i do have an question regarding to HA cloud. is it any faster (intern lag) vs your normal setup ie. Alexa server -> tuya server -> device

last dirge
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I use haaska

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goes straight from a lambda running at AWS to my house

last plaza
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Haaska? Haven’t heard that a while! Is that still a thing?

last dirge
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at my house it is 🙂

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still works

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no reason to mess with it

last plaza
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Google Coral is on sale now.

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I’ve blown my budget for the next few months already 😎

last dirge
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on sale or for sale?

last plaza
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I should stop looking at deals. But can’t help myself.

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On Sale

last dirge
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that dev board looks like a Pi

last plaza
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On amazon.

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Yup

last dirge
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thanks, Clippy

last plaza
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Yup. There are libraries available. Google G950-01456-01 Coral USB Accelerator $59.99. It used to be close to $100.

last dirge
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oh, it IS a pi

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I have no need for that

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and I'm too dumb to learn to use it

last plaza
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lol

clever mortar
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I want one of the USB sticks so I can make Doods run faster 😄

spare canopy
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haha i remember reading this somewhere

vast lily
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not sure where to ask this... anyone in the USA has ordered from mouser/digikey/TI direct have an idea the fastest way to get a TI board right now?

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looks like mouser is doing same day shipping with $7.99 for fed ex 2 day, so i guess that is probably best i will get

wet pilot
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So, no internet update. Switched to the local docis provider. There is a break in the underground line between the pole and the house there too

clever mortar
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Cursed you are

wet pilot
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Yup

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I might just go out to home Depot and make my own long ass coax cable

clever mortar
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And hire a trenching machine, and buy some conduit 😛

wet pilot
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The 811 guy just marked out all the utility lines, could probably get away with it

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I'm willing to bet 1k that when either of these providers comes to lay a replacement they're going to cut my neighbor

last plaza
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This is the worst time to have internet outage! Last year we had a new home owner moved in the neighborhood, the cable guy came in, disconnected ours and connected the new house and went away.

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Had to call and get them back to fix it. What a pain for no reason!

livid grotto
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I have a question about the architecture of Hassio and I'm not sure where's the best place to ask it. I'm poking around the source code and trying to wrap my head around the interactions between the hardware, buildroot, HA Core and HA Supervisor, and docker. My (current) question is: when an addon is installed in Hassio, I know the Supervisor, which manages addons, is running in a Docker container. I know the addons themselves are running in Docker containers. Does this mean that the supervisor is using Docker-in-Docker, and that the addons are each in their own docker containers, which in turn reside in the Supervisor's docker container, that then sits on top of Buildroot? (I did look at the architecture diagram in the developer docs, but I'm afraid that it didn't really help me answer this.)

clever mortar
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Have a look at that

jagged mantle
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Time to give up on Jellyfin lmao

livid grotto
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@clever mortar, thanks. My interpretation is that Core, Supervisor, and Add-Ons are all 'peer containers' in the same Docker host.

clever mortar
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Yup

livid grotto
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So then, the Supervisor somehow has to tell its parent Docker host to launch a peer instance of Add-On-Whatever. Interesting; I didn't know that Docker allowed the containerized processes to do that. I'll have to dig through the source to see how that works.

clever mortar
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But, if you think about it, Portainer is a Docker container that manages other Docker containers...

livid grotto
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You presume that I know more about Docker than how to spell it!

clever mortar
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They're also a type of shoes.... 😛

clear ferry
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@jagged mantle told you so boi

jagged mantle
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Well it was better in most other than performance for me at least

clear ferry
clever mortar
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You digitised the dog?

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Is this the first step in building your own replicator?

clear ferry
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You are next!

clever mortar
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I can take over the world all by myself 🤔

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Hell yeah!

clear ferry
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Speaking of

scenic radish
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no

clear ferry
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Ghost in the shell is a great anime

clever mortar
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Which one?

clear ferry
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The first movie

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The second was ok

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The scarlet Johansson one was mehish

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I haven't seen the stand alone complex

clever mortar
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Yeah, I enjoyed the first. The latest movie is "different" but I still enjoyed it

last plaza
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Those of you have little kids at home, you can buy two tiny drones with cameras and remote controller for $15 including shipping. https://meh.com

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I bought one of those like 4 years ago for $80 from Samsclub. Early days, during Christmas time.

scenic radish
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ah yes, i will most definitely not buy these for myself

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those who i am buying them for will be most pleased

last plaza
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Not for self. I recommend DJI Mavic Pro.

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I have a Mavic pro, and have been pretty happy with it. Been flying for a few years now, never crashed or did anything stupid 😊

forest edge
#

Tediore wants to spy on his neighbors using the built in camera

scenic radish
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i just wanna crash them into stuff

last plaza
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lol

forest edge
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jokes on him with it's super low 320 resolution and black and white picture

scenic radish
last plaza
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I didn’t see any mention of camera resolution. I assumed 4k at 30fps. 😝

scenic radish
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i thought 8K at up to 240 FPS

forest edge
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when they call that toy an easy bake oven, it's not really an oven it's make pretend well so is that 4k and 30fps lol

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it's a still imagine with a glitter effect and when you move it alittle it only appears to update lol

clever mortar
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Oooh, a drone that could glitter bomb 🤔

scenic radish
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my fiancee is gonna judge me so hard for buying these lol

forest edge
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she probably knows your gonna try and chase her around your box condo with it lol

scenic radish
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gonna fly it straight into her booty

clear ferry
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Women will always judge us for buying tech

forest edge
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or in your case ancient artifacts

clear ferry
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But mine stole my Logitech m570

clever mortar
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That's fine, buy an MX Ergo replacement

last plaza
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All public swimming pools are closed indefinitely!

scenic radish
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corona soup

last plaza
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lol. They are mostly pee anyway.

clever mortar
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Ours have been closed for ... 6 weeks or so now

last plaza
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It is still cold here. People don’t go to public pools until it gets hot here.

forest edge
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haha that's not chlorine your smelling!

shy comet
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man that new rick and morty episode was so meta lol

unkempt geyser
#

Today at 22:19
What is the deal for reporting binary_sensor entities in Grafana? I'm really struggling to find the appropriate WHERE type.

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last plaza
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Gotta watch WestWorld Season 3 now.

rain swift
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could only watch so much west world, got bored.

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now i'm watching this guy on youtube who goes into abandoned places in Russia, and some not so abandoned places, to explore. I'm liking it.

last plaza
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I think I know who that guy is... I watched a few videos.

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@shy comet there is a new R&M episode? need to look into that

shy comet
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@last plaza yup season 4b started on sunday

last plaza
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cool!

hushed basalt
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I watched it

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I'm going to give R&M a pass from now on

last plaza
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let me guess - you didn't like the ending? 😛

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I don't think any can ruin endings like GoT writers dumb and dumber!

hushed basalt
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I've only liked about 1/5 episodes lately

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The ending?

shy comet
#

ive been loving all the episodes they've had personally....so much funny shit is hidden

eager vortex
#

what are your guys thoughts on the RF Bridge by sonoff and it does it work well with HA?

forest edge
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@eager vortex works fine with HA regardless which firmware you decide to use. Finding stuff it can connect with on the other hand can be a pita

eager vortex
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oh

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i got a reed swtich from Nextech and a temp sensor XC-0324

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both send on 433MHz

forest edge
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it's one of those, your mileage may vary type of things. aside from the stock firmware there are 3 other firmware's that can be loaded on to it and a few mods that can be done to it to help expand it's capabilities. Nothing tho will ensure what you have will work with it till you try it.

eager vortex
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so it can be hacked huh

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intresting

forest edge
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yes

eager vortex
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only youtube videos on the different types?

forest edge
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Tasmota, ESPHome and ESPurna

eager vortex
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ESPHome!!!!!111

forest edge
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are the 3 alternatives to stock

eager vortex
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i love ESPHome

forest edge
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there quite a lot so i would do some reading before anything

eager vortex
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on witch firmware would suite me?

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yeah ill do that

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glad i purchased that little serial device to help program

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@forest edge what do you use?

forest edge
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i currently have purna on mine and only gotten one thing to work so far lol

eager vortex
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just went to esphome and it doesnt say anything about the Sonoff RF Bridge

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@forest edge sorry to ping pong

forest edge
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just be sure that's the route you want to take cause once you go down that rabbit hole you limit yourself to only esphome and espurna

eager vortex
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Just ordered the bridge.

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Hopefully I can harness its power.

dull chasm
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@forest edge good point as i use espeasy for all of mine and it is just a flash and it works doesnt depend on any api/esphone software to work as its just mqtt

green inlet
#

Vasiley, been toying with automating blinds. Have been looking at your repo/wiki. I don’t have a 3D printer and actually would prefer buying something. Did you do any research into off the shelf products that work with HAss?

hushed basalt
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Just got the wall mount

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Cable isn't awesome, but at least now it's picking up our voices!

dull chasm
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@green inlet no i just a servo controlled by a esp that turns the shaft ...plain and simple ... i made a bracket for it out of scrap aluminuin i had

green inlet
#

They all need power sources though correct.

last dirge
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@green inlet yeah

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you can buy the parts I 3d printed

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and the thing I've got that holds the servo could easily be replaced by an appropriate shaped piece of wood zip-tied to the servo body

tawny blade
#

with YAML support transitioning somewhat, are there alternatives or recommendations for storing these configurations and automating the standup of HA without having to go through the UI every single time? (I use Docker so it's a lot of tear-down)

scenic radish
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@tawny blade you shouldn't have to do anything with your config when bringing the container down or up

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The config is stored outside of the home assistant container, or at least it should be if you've set it up properly

hushed basalt
#

Put my new cpu cooler in

fading zodiac
#

Be QUIET!

hushed basalt
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No U!

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I want to get a new case too

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But it's like 40% of the case cost for shipping

fading zodiac
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no U!

clear ferry
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zzzz PCs

fading zodiac
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Someone from US here :)?

clear ferry
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sssshhhhh

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they are sleeping

fading zodiac
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D:

clear ferry
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waiting for their socialist checks

fading zodiac
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i needthat DHL code

clear ferry
fading zodiac
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Me and xavi needa test D:

midnight adder
clear ferry
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Sounds like normal seek noise

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I hear no motor skipping or heads colliding

midnight adder
#

i was worried about this 'pig noise'

clear ferry
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Still sounds like normal seek sounds to me whatever you are posting

midnight adder
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ah oke

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so i dont need to worry

clear ferry
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I wouldn't atleast

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but who am I to listen to, I just manage 1200 drive disk arrays and can hear a disk failing from across the room 🤣

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15k or go home dancedogpls

midnight adder
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hmm will make a backup of important stuff on my ssd just in case

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cant lose half my thesis

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to a crashing drive

clear ferry
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if you only store your thesis on a single drive, you have bigger issues anyway

midnight adder
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oooof

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how would you do it then

clear ferry
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store to primary storage, daily copy to secondary storage, weekly copy to tertiary storage

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if I ever needed to do a thesis

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school is presidentsleeper

fading zodiac
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@midnight adder just throw it out and burn it to be sure 🙂

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use CLOUD?