2812 will be the correct choice i guess
#the-water-cooler
midnight adder
strange vapor
Anyone ever come across a PSU with multiple 12V out? Something like https://www.t-rex-effects.com/fueltank-junior with 12V instead?
orchid rose
2812 is the budget option but it sucks if you want white light at all
light trout
Can they run directly of an ESP chip, or do you need a PSU?
light trout
sure, was thinking of the strips, are the ESP powerfull enough to provide the required amount of power on it's own?
orchid rose
the regulator on it no but it has output pins directly connected to the input so if you can simply power the esp from the same 5-12V power supply as the strip
light trout
so if I use the vin pin that maps directly to the source it "should" be "fine" then 😄
orchid rose
yes. However the VIN pin on a lolin nodemcu board is not directly connected to the usb power but some other pin is 😛
light trout
wtf... okey then, I'll just split the source then xD
orchid rose
Most boards the vin will work but lolin is an exception for some reason. There was a pin I could use though that I found with a quick google search
it's worked just fine for me connected that way
light trout
I'm not sure what I have, probably the cheapest on Ali I could find 😛
orchid rose
says in the back if it's lolin
https://arduino.stackexchange.com/a/56785 VV pin is the right one on lolin if connected via usb
orchid rose
It's a good video but keep in mind that it's for holiday lights and other accent lights. I use led strips as "proper" lighting as well and then you'll need one or two white leds as well
hearty depot
Some of you using puppet or puppet enterprise?
midnight adder
MUST SEE!!!
jeeez
thats as much energy in a video as an afrikan family uses in their lifetime
midnight adder
throw me a guide
clear ferry
No
midnight adder
Yes
hearty depot
clear ferry
He puts all his projects avaliable online, so you can import them
clear ferry
midnight adder
😄
clear ferry
clever mortar
That would be #frontend-archived @rough sonnet
rough sonnet
Damn, i was right, the first time 😄 I'll remove it here, and post it in "frontend". Thanks!
clever mortar
No worries - thanks 👍
clever mortar
Assuming the accuracy of the tests are high 😛
clear ferry
Probably as accurate as most other countries 
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
Looking good then 🤣
clear ferry
rare condor
So I have to commission 4 pump stations and an oil refinery on Monday and I spent all day instead adding automations to my house.
clear ferry
dull chasm
@rare condor more fun than what i did yesterday ..... i blocked a driveway for 16 hours
rare condor
@clear ferry I thought that was the point of this place 😉
@dull chasm that's fun did you point and laugh at the person you were blocking?
dull chasm
🤣
dull chasm
i got denied my new service weapon request .... I need 1300 @clear ferry you got it laying around
clear ferry
Closest thing I have to a weapon is my chainsaw
dull chasm
thats a belguim gun thou
last dirge
and it's got ridiculously expensive ammo
and the recoil is funny
and the magazines are a pain in the ass to load
dull chasm
nah i used in combat ... ammo is expensive but recoil is light and easy to load but i have loaded hundreds of types of guns so maybe a little more experinced? @last dirge
dull chasm
p90?
wet pilot
dull chasm
yea she is awesome ...
last dirge
I think the guy said it cost him 8 grand
dull chasm
yea why most go with the 90 much cheaper ... i like HK bullpubs much cheaper
eager ember
Why is the 32bit recommended over the 64bit? What's the advantage/disadvantage?
clever mortar
eager ember
thanks!
hearty depot
test test... when this works I have internet but cant reach my router??..
dull chasm
stop doing this?
clever mortar
Good news, you're firewalled off from your router
hearty depot
then tell me what it is
I only configuring a virsh network on my HA server 🤔
How the holy F
huhh... I would love to get some router logs - the virsh network on a diffrent vlan brought down the interface?
clear ferry
Sounds like a basic misunderstanding of basic networking fundamentals
And poor communication of the actual issue
clear ferry
Muuuuurica out of tp?
last plaza
😱
hearty depot
no shit 😄
But I cant say what I did wrong. It worked well for 10 minutes and I dont think that I created a loop
tawny pebble
hello everyone, before i begin this project about multiroom audio, has any of you tried Balena before?
https://www.balena.io/blog/turn-your-old-speakers-or-hi-fi-into-bluetooth-receivers-using-only-a-raspberry-pi/
i meant, there is no integration in HA for Balena. But perhaps it is shown as media_player entity anyway.. you confirm?
clear ferry
@tawny pebble @tidal bronze has a lot of multiroom I think
tidal bronze
@last plaza https://www.costco.com/toilets-washlets.html
orchid rose
Juri it depends on what you're going to use to output to that device. It looks to support bluetooth, airplay and spotify connect. I would think all of those were supported by HASS?
midnight adder
hai peeeepppppooooles
tawny pebble
@orchid rose i was looking at denon systems (heos) and similar multiroom audio. My goal is to use TTS from HA for notification around the apartment (the same i'm currently doing with the amazon echo using the Alexa Media) and Spotify for listening to music.
I have tried raspotify, works great (except for my gf phone, there it is not seen, don't know why) but being it not a media_player, HA can not see it
midnight adder
you want to get it cheap right
orchid rose
do you have a Spotify Premium account?
tawny pebble
I've even followed to guide written by @last plaza in his Git, about mopidy and snapcast. Won't work and I don't know how. The snapclient doesn't connect to the snapserver
Yes, i own the family account
orchid rose
There's an integration for Spotify that should just work for what you want I think but I haven't used it myself
I don't know how it lists the different speakers or if it supports that though
midnight adder
How's everyone doing?
orchid rose
bored and stuck at home like every other day 😛
tawny pebble
the problem is my speaker are the amazon echo. so damn close source. only alexa media can talk to them. so yes, the integrations for spotify (i tried a few of them) works because there's my account connected. But i wish my gf is able to use her spotify (premium) to connect to these echo and she can't. because amazon stuff.. sooo i'd like to "build" media_players. simple wifi speakers
orchid rose
there is no "simple wifi speaker" it always will go through one standard or another
midnight adder
anybody munching chips and gummy bears here?
orchid rose
bluetooth is somewhat a standard but I'd prefer wifi
tawny pebble
that's the issue. But some time ago i tried installing Kodi on a raspberry and HA saw it as media player and i redirect the TTS of google translate to media_player.kodi.
it worked so damn great for testing. i'd like to achieve the same feelings by having a few wifi speakers that just "connect"
clever mortar
Sonos then 😉
tawny pebble
or Denon :3
orchid rose
Then just pick one of the many listed here and see if it supports what you need: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/#media-player
I like my Chromecast stuff
dull chasm
@orchid rose Musiccast by yamaha then!!
orchid rose
my Yamaha doesn't even have network connectivity 😛
dull chasm
upgrade
orchid rose
already did. The new one is only a few years old so it has a network port (no wifi)
dull chasm
doesnt need wifi ....mine is not on wifi
orchid rose
I'm not sure if it supports playback or anything. Would be a pain to sync everything with chromecast anyway so just easier to plug a chromecast to it and be done with it
tidal bronze
@tawny pebble you can do 2 ways. CC or Alexa to multi-zone AVR
or You can use multi CC or Alexa groups
That would be the easiest
dull chasm
@tidal bronze you havent noticed a drop in audio quality in chromecast?
tawny pebble
the issue is not the multiroom itself, it works already with alexa. The thing is it works under my spotify account, because alexa is connected to my spotify account. Therefore when my gf open her spotify, she has no devices where to cast the music.
With chromecast i will probably fix, but i need speakers for that. But thing is i don't have a chromecast for testing but i have a raspberry.
tidal bronze
@dull chasm hmm not really.
dull chasm
sync on musiccast is awesome ....but more money
tidal bronze
@tawny pebble oh use spotcast
tawny pebble
So, what I did, i creating another Spotify account (i own the family, got some more slots left) and connect this other account to alexa's spotify.
byut that works only in the tablet which i use for lovelace HA :/ because i connected this tablet to this account. But this makes my account and her account not able to see alexa echoes for music. damn what a story
never heard spotcast, i'll have a look
tidal bronze
That will fix your issues of not seeing the devices 😀
dull chasm
@tidal bronze i am surprised you didnt get the musiccast amps or preamps and be done with it
tidal bronze
Only thing is that you will need to have a collection of playlist URI @tawny pebble
@dull chasm does not work for me
tawny pebble
oh spotcast, o ki know it. used it. Tipped the dev because he did a good job. uninstalled it because not properly working
orchid rose
why would there be a drop in audio quality with Chromecast?
tidal bronze
@tawny pebble it works great.
clear ferry
dull chasm
@tidal bronze they sync perfectly and everthing in one place ....what did not work
tawny pebble
@tidal bronze when i was clicking the playlist from lovelace, it was not always starting the echoes. but it's a problem with amazon echo. they go into a kind of standby. also the HA media player I found to have issue in waking them up
reason why i want to extirpate the echo dot around the apartment
tidal bronze
I have about 11 chromecasts, 4 zones, 2 avr and intercom system. My TTS has 2 classes critical and non essential. Depending on what's being played on what zone they change source from avr to CC only. I don't want to hear any TTS in the area I am listening to music or TV. So TTS is task based and area based. Can't do that if I am using AVR musicast only. @dull chasm
@tawny pebble I am sorry don't use anything alexa so don't know anything about those. I removed them tears ago.
dull chasm
well damn @tidal bronze but for multiroom control by itself ..... YAMAHA muscicast rocks
if i am listening to music screw the rest ....
tawny pebble
@tidal bronze you did a good job in removing them. the only reason i still use it is i can call it by "computer" as wake word. Just like in the Batman Lego movie
tidal bronze
Just for music not music + tts @dull chasm
dull chasm
agree
orchid rose
It ties you to one brand though which I generally dislike. I just wish there was a more open standard out there
dull chasm
I dont get to use what i have very often but when i do ....screw tts .....amps over power it anyway
tidal bronze
Well if it's critical TTS mine will cut all AVRs and run TTS like water leak smoke etc
dull chasm
@orchid rose yea but when main avr cost 2k ....secondry amp 700 and bedroom amp 1k .....i am all in
orchid rose
I just got my bedroom amp, it cost me 20€ 🙂
I connected it to a 20€ chromecast audio and I'm pretty happy with the setup
dull chasm
damn ......totally diff kinda setup ....but @tidal bronze has 10x money invested than me
tidal bronze
@dull chasm as a 3rd option I have a CC audio routed through the intercom system, just in case room CCs are busy and a critical TTS needs to be played 😉
dull chasm
that i can go with .....but screw it messing with main amps
maybe muting avr's or amps but no control
tidal bronze
I used to do CCA to both my aventage units but lately I am happy with CC groups and the intercom system. Just cut the amps for critical TTS and not play TTS in AVR active zones.
dull chasm
that is what i would do if i had crictal annoucments or maybe led based ....but not screw with main audio .....i have worked my ass off to have a decent system
tidal bronze
Sometimes I hate TTS I've cut down about 70% of the announcements.
dull chasm
yep .... I am way below your cost but i got 8k in main system ....screw a door has opened interrupting
tidal bronze
If my dogs are not crazy I can cut down 99% of TTS 🤣
dull chasm
talk to dogs and tell them to chill
tidal bronze
I am 10 years too late for that 🙂
shy comet
@tidal bronze i hear you on that
i started substituting notification sounds with TTS to stop the dogs from going nuts
dull chasm
have a hug and kiss session and rub belly and talk
shy comet
turned off all ring notifications and the house just announces if it detects motion
its so darn annoying especially when you have a sleeping baby and your GSD starts to go nuts
dull chasm
@shy comet hello nancy
tidal bronze
My issues with garage doors and side gates etc
shy comet
@dull chasm nancy?
dull chasm
@shy comet i am dissappointed
tidal bronze
The oldest one knows how to break the IR safety beams
dull chasm
for a anti trump guy
tidal bronze
If I close the garage and just leave he will come and break the beam and will open it. 😉 @shy comet
dull chasm
@shy comet she has a empty seat for ya
shy comet
she can keep it
dull chasm
no trump no nancy .....where are you .... beach boys?
shy comet
haha honestly lately im kinda like fuck em all.
tidal bronze
I am with
dull chasm
must be cali ...liberal thing that i dont understand
shy comet
personally im more in the boat that we dont get to pick our president
dull chasm
is it just me or is @tidal bronze link just spinning
tidal bronze
@shy comet
shy comet
special pandemic edition
you get to see how crazy we are in LA....Pomona aint far from me 😛
@tidal bronze i saw that and that was my wifes "i told you so" moment lol
shes been wearing a mask for weeks now
tidal bronze
Me too
dull chasm
i will say this ya'all are Special to say the least
tidal bronze
Finally doing what's right
shy comet
@tidal bronze are you cleaning your shoes and all that before entering the house?
tidal bronze
Got a steamer. I steam everything. All clothes go in the washer as soon we come home
shy comet
yea same
tidal bronze
No shoes in the house anyway.
shy comet
i havent left the house in weeks ive been wearing nothing but PJs lol
tidal bronze
Lucky bastard
Man the pay check protection plan is nuts. Banks can't handle the requests.
wet pilot
lol that's my everyday. but now the wife and baby are home
shy comet
@wet pilot same lol except wife started to stay at home in jan so i had some prep time 😛
shy comet
@tidal bronze hell yea, im due for another order lol
what you getting?
we normally do steak on a friday night but wife requested we do cheesy potatoes instead
tidal bronze
no luck with costco instacart 😦
river rune
We do home made pizza and a movie every Friday
forest edge
what is on an alaska home made pizza? seal? lol
shy comet
yea man costco instacart hasnt been available to order for a while now
clear ferry
My wife has been studying from home for 4 years
Nothing new here
@forest edge seal and whale is delicious btw
forest edge
you would be eating seal and whale chunks lol
forest edge
thats because your a pirate
dropped to 30 degrees and started raining here last night. accidently left my window open and now i'm freezing lol
wet pilot
rolled a 2 on observation 😛
forest edge
tell me about it. was half expecting to see ice forming on my monitor
orchid rose
Norwegians are such a backwards people
wet pilot
inb4 @clear ferry 🤢
wild grove
all i think of handmaids tale and their face covering
green inlet
Am I right in my thinking that if I am running multiple things on the same ports that installing and running Nginx provides an application to direct things where they need to be?
river rune
You can't run multiple things on the same port
Unless they are on different computers
bitter zinc
Guys my HASS install just dissapeared from my ubuntu VM
like its gone
how could that even happen
wet pilot
disk failure
green inlet
They are on different computers
wet pilot
you can have an nginx reverse proxy to do stuff if you want
clear ferry
Norway is pretty stable, but we are expecting it to last out 2020 now 
bitter zinc
how could portainer still be running on that VM then?
wet pilot
different part of the disk
bitter zinc
I had a power failure last night but that shouldnt have just removed the container
So how do I stop that from happening in the future?
clear ferry
The container is probably just turned off
bitter zinc
I just checked its not there at all
green inlet
So yea, multiple https servers on different IPs....Nginx reverse proxy would handle it correct
clear ferry
Just recreate it then, and link it to the persistent storage you are of course using
river rune
@green inlet Yes
wet pilot
even better, leave all the other stuff as http and let the proxy handle the cert termination
river rune
Yeah, that is what I do
bitter zinc
Ok thanks
green inlet
So is this a good start?
river rune
I have one nginx container running in docker and another which gets certs from LetsEncrypt and then if I want something to be available I just have to create it in a container with specific env variables and those 2 containers handle the certs and the routing
wet pilot
i use that container
river rune
Me too
green inlet
Ok. Docker is 🤯. Where do I start
clear ferry
In the right end
green inlet
That’s what she said
clear ferry
green inlet
I prefer the backend though
river rune
A good place to start is by installing docker...
green inlet
Yea....not even a clue how to do that. I think I am on the right track though
green inlet
But that github seems to be the shinizzle
wet pilot
the container is pretty slick
green inlet
So I will take the time and figure it out.
bitter zinc
what does ```
modmanager is enabled WARNING
so i have that container acting as my ingress and most of my other containers have no ports exposed outside the docker network
green inlet
That is your problem. You need to disable it
bitter zinc
what does it do?
bitter zinc
well then I dont want it lol
green inlet
So all the duckdns URLs point to nqix container
Correct
It sent my network into a spin till I figured it out.
wet pilot
yep, 443 from the outside goes to that nginx container. nginx will proxy to all the other containers on all their weird ports on just http
clear ferry
Watching JoJo rabbit now, looking good so far 
green inlet
Or VEnv correct. Don’t need all of them to be in containers
wet pilot
yeah, doesn't actually matter. But if you use HA in a venv, it would be worth migrating up to docker based if you want to start using docker for that LE container
wet pilot
or, you can just install nginx on bare metal and use the LE certbot to handle the certs
green inlet
I don’t really understand certs. I get it when it comes to ssh but duckdns doesn’t have my key, or maybe it does and I just don’t know it
clever mortar
DuckDNS doesn't, but whatever software you're using for LetsEncrypt does 😉
green inlet
So duckdns just goes to the url name under certbot and forwards from there?
light trout
duckdns is like a phonebook so humans can remember words instead of numbers
green inlet
Yea, I understand dns forwarders.
green inlet
Just the certs I can’t wrap my brain around
clever mortar
They're entirely separate
green inlet
But certbot has a folder named after duckdns url
clever mortar
It's like PB+J for a sandwich - that's two unrelated things in it
Right, but that's convenience
The folder could be called banana
No sane software would do that though 😛
The certificate is for your DuckDNS hostname
light trout
You sure about that ?
clever mortar
No 😛
green inlet
So in ssh, there is a key and a key.pub. Same concept in certs?
green inlet
So when someone is forwarded by duckdns. It hits my router and is forwarded to the HAss install which knows where the key is? Once it knows the key it encrypts the communication?
clever mortar
Ok, so...
green inlet
Sorry. Like I said 🤯
clever mortar
DuckDNS turns your DNS name into an IP (DNS)
Your computer then connects to that IP - DuckDNS isn't involved in the actual connection
Aka, you look up the address in the address book, and then go there yourself
Does that make sense?
green inlet
Yes
clever mortar
Now, SSL is "slightly" more complicated, but ...
You connect to the server and start a little chat. As part of that, the server hands over the certificate
You check that certificate is valid for the address you used
green inlet
Hands it over to who?
clever mortar
If it is, you're happy and you start encrypting messages using it
To you (the browser)
You now have the server's public key (certificate)
When you encrypt something with that, only the server can decrypt (with the private key)
green inlet
But that’s my point. Anyone who get there gets the key right. Like leaving it under the front porch mat
clever mortar
Yes, but no
Everybody can encrypt a message for the server
Nobody but the server can decrypt it
However, SSL solves this by "magic"
At this point, you and the server generate some session keys that are used for this session, all in this currently encrypted session
Then you use those for the actual communication
Reality is much more complicated at this point
TLS 1.3 and Diffie-Hellman add more complexity
green inlet
Maybe I am looking at it like a password. It isn’t a password to open the door. It merely encrypts traffic going in and out ?
clever mortar
green inlet
Ok. I will read links. Thanks.
clever mortar
I have the advantage of living through the evolution of a lot of this, which helps
green inlet
I have a hard time understanding things that aren’t visual. When I get a moment I will study up on links. Thank you.
clever mortar
No worries, happy to chat more about it any time
clever mortar
Yes, I was there when Zeus started tossing the bolts around 😉
green inlet
With age comes wisdom. Like a fine wine
green inlet
True
clear ferry
Also more flatulence
clever mortar
And 🍻
green inlet
Or vodka
clever mortar
🥃
clear ferry
tidal bronze
Time to run some way point missons. Get the neighbors all pissed.
clever mortar
You need to mount a paintball gun on that
orchid rose
Asymmetric encryption was and partly still is a really confusing concept for me. Mostly the relationship between the key pair is confusing. I've pretty much given up on trying to perfectly understand it
green inlet
Like battery charge and discharge curves. I gave up trying to figure those out.
I need exact science to compute
orchid rose
I've also read that quantum computing could cause problems for these types of encryptions but as I don't really understand how they work in the first place, it is kinda hard to follow how that would be a problem
river rune
Yeah... in 20 years or so.
orchid rose
I get the general gist of it, but I personally like knowing how things work and it's sometimes frustrating when I don't get it 🙂
clever mortar
Quantum == You have the answers to the questions you didn't know you had. You just don't know what the question was yet.
river rune
iirc the biggest quantum computer they have made so far was an 8 qbit and they would need a 2048 qbit to make it work right iirc
I actually just watched a computerphile video on that recenly...
river rune
clear ferry
Quite a lot of good quantum physics podcasts on BBC in our own time
midnight adder
I'm late to the game, but i love the flux integration.
clever mortar
Wait until you try https://github.com/claytonjn/hass-circadian_lighting/ 😉
midnight adder
I was wondering, what the main difference is
clever mortar
It's what Flux wants to be when it grows up
midnight adder
😉
clever mortar
Significantly more controllable for a start
midnight adder
an astronaut?
clever mortar
That or a superhero
I found that while Flux worked, it wasn't as slick as Circadian
midnight adder
hmmm. Will give it a try.
clear ferry
Flux was shite last I used it
Been using circadian lighting for over a year
I do use f.lux on my machines though
midnight adder
the science behind it is quite interesting
clear ferry
midnight adder
people
clever mortar
Hey, it works...
clear ferry
I've had sleeping issues for 30 years, I can say circadian lighting on all my lights have improved my life
midnight adder
do you use in the bedroom, or just elsewhere to "come down" in evening?
clever mortar
Anywhere I have CCT lights
It really does make a difference
Side note - I need more CCT lights
forest edge
you know opening the shades on windows is cheaper than circadian lighting
tidal bronze
@forest edge have tried sending an email to open the shades ?
forest edge
@tidal bronze nevver heard of smmqtt?
tidal bronze
Enlighten me
🔥
clear ferry
forest edge
so russia is obviously not reporting their number accurately and we know north korea is lying about having 0 infection lol
dull chasm
north korea is not lying 15 seconds after a infection they have no infection 😉
forest edge
lol
wet pilot
lol
clear ferry
But we know where the real shit is going to go down the next weeks 
forest edge
yea the south pole. poor penguins.. wonder how they are preparing for testing
bitter zinc
Have you guys used the lovelace webpage card?
forest edge
I use the oilder iframe card. not sure if it's a reboot of that or not
forest edge
like i said, not sure if the webpage card is a reboot of that cause the iframe one went poof
bitter zinc
Oh its not supported anymore?
forest edge
well it still works, type: iframe
forest edge
no
@bitter zinc the webpage card is the iframe card. lol https://www.home-assistant.io/lovelace/iframe/
just got renamed
bitter zinc
Oh
So when I put in a webpage it doesnt work though
Is there a way to make one of the views just go to a webpage?
clever mortar
#frontend-archived would be the place to ask 😉
shy comet
https://www.thewrap.com/black-widow-moves-to-november-as-other-mcu-films-shift-back-to-2021-2022/ entire marvel slate was pushed back.....they also lost a date in Nov 2021.....i imagine most of the movie industry will also see some impact in 2021 and 2022.....probably will see more low budget movies during that time
clear ferry
But low budget movies are so much better
shy comet
they can be but when im at a theater i want to see and hear explosions etc....otherwise ill watch at home lol
clear ferry
JoJo rabbit, 14mill USD, and it's one of the better movies I've seen in a while
Better than any of the marvel movies
strange vapor
Missed that in the Cinema 😦 Was travelling at the time
shy comet
it was a good movie i watched it at home though
i mainly watch marvel movies in cinema to avoid getting anything spoiled lol
forest edge
@clear ferry you need to live alittle more and work alittle less lol
willow parrot
is it normal for entity id's to be in this select measurement field?
Looks like it starts with just units there
shy comet
@willow parrot in grafana i believe it pulls everything in there
green inlet
Should you lose your man card if you ask about the Pinterest integration🤣
Asking for a friend
forest edge
over 2k comfirmed cases of covid and 19 deaths my states gov just now today thinks it's a good idea to issue a statewide stay at home order
wet pilot
Because he just yesterday learned people can be sick without knowing it
Not sure if he's lying or really that fucking stupid
forest edge
pretty sure it's the second part
shy comet
even with the order people will still go out thats the sad part
orchid rose
order will still stop most of people even though some will break it
forest edge
older people tend to follow what thier goverment tells them
wet pilot
My county just pressed charges on a spa that was violating the order
wet pilot
Yup
forest edge
maybe that's what this virus is. a thinning of the herd
orchid rose
Here it's mostly young and old people breaking the recommendations to stay home
green inlet
Phnx, Pineville?
wet pilot
Yar
green inlet
Was it like a happy ending spa?
wet pilot
Doesn't seem like it
green inlet
Good for them
wet pilot
green inlet
Multiple first responders are infected/quarantined. That’s when stuff starts to get real. We start losing the front line and it might be a crap shoot
wet pilot
Yeah...
forest edge
dosen't hold a candle to these stupid churches which have hundreds of people packed together
wet pilot
Definitely. I think a "pastor" got arrested recently somewhere for that
forest edge
there's been a few
green inlet
Billy Graham’s church, you can just call and they will pray with you over the phone 🤣
wet pilot
Via a 900 number?
forest edge
lol most likely a 900 number
green inlet
Not sure. I have wanted to call and see how long before they ask for money
hushed basalt
My zigbeen coordinator crashed at 2am
And half my lights turned on
I think I need to refine my automation triggers
forest edge
I like the strippers delivering meals business model. food cost + $30+
@hushed basalt lol that sucks
wet pilot
Boober? I forget what we called it
forest edge
yea boober
shy comet
ahha i saw that so funny
forest edge
lol
shy comet
the instagram post was funny
green inlet
How about door flash
Get your meal AND see our breasts
@orchid rose , this helped me
So is docker-community just the most recent version?
last plaza
@green inlet we don't have to worry about corona virus anymore. these guys got it under control https://twitter.com/i/status/1244629249811795969
green inlet
Somehow I think Pihole blocks twitter stuff
Haven’t figured it out
And my son reminds me daily
last plaza
watch it on mobile without wifi - worth watching it.
simple spear
Hi all - i have a question about the zwave integration. On startup it states openzwave 1.4 - that seems a bit old. Is this something wrong on my own machine or is HA just including that version?
forest edge
lol religious nuts
simple spear
thanks @shy comet - didn't see that channel
orchid rose
I'll take a look when I got time pdobrien3
green inlet
@last plaza , now we need to wait 3-14 days to see if it worked
last plaza
If it doesn't, we will repeat the same process again
last plaza
lol
tidal bronze
It's all making sense now
forest edge
ew i'd rather smoke the covid than those parliaments lol
shy comet
gonna fire up the hookah tomorrow night
shy comet
😮
we just got Fumari Watermelon so gonna try that for the first time
ive been a fan of White Gummi Bear the most though lol
tidal bronze
Once again no fair 🙄
shy comet
its a flavor by Fumari....White Gummi Bear....they also have Red Gummi Bear but I find it to be very sweet
White Gummi Bear is like the perfect flavor since its very hookah like and has the flavor
rihgt amount of strong taste
forest edge
@tidal bronze no hating. my aunt smokes those while having brunch too lol
tidal bronze
@shy comet yet to try. Wife likes all kinds I keep going back to good old green apple. Lol
shy comet
haha yea
tidal bronze
After 19 years first anniversary in the US and at home. This is going to be an interesting weekend.
Was supposed to be in Bora Bora. Oh well
Hookah and steak it is
forest edge
you throwing a corona party? lol
wet pilot
Better pick up the beer while you can. Production shut down today
tidal bronze
Rona for 2 😂
@wet pilot got beer but we both don't drink beer. 😆 She's into tequila and I am a whiskey kinda guy. 😀
tidal bronze
Lol. She drink 3x as me so end of the day it's too much fun.
wet pilot
Lol
forest edge
just bought a 6 pack of corona earlier today lol
been awhile since i've had it so figured wtf lol
tidal bronze
Lol.
hushed basalt
Is my assumption right:
If you start using VLANs it means those networks are on different subnets, which means you need to use your router to communicate between them. Which means there will be a lot more layer 3 routing on your network where before it would have all been layer 2. So your router would be under a lot more load?
wild grove
I wouldn't say lot. It's what routers do
The hosts will see less broadcast traffic fwiw
Even in a flat network hosts still use all layers
rain swift
I don't think your home network would create enough routing traffic to matter resource wise.
tidal bronze
NAT would consume more than all the rest so nothing to worry about. 😀
hushed basalt
Yeah but lan traffic can be pretty heavy
tidal bronze
What router?
sour escarp
evening fellas
rain swift
my firewall is my router, netgate 3100, should handle anything I throw at it
hushed basalt
A very cheap old one
It was like $20 flashed with tomato
It holds up pretty well. Considering I don't torrent or use VPN on router and my internet is 80/30.
But I'm not sure if it'd survive if I had say plex streaming 4k to my tv across vlans
clear ferry
@forest edge cinemas is just not a thing for most here, and me even less after I became a pirate in the mid 90s 
@hushed basalt pretty hard to tell without seeing traffic flow, but Plex traffic should be tcp I guess, and single stream, what is more likely to kill it is multi stream stuff, like, imagine trying to guide a bus, Vs guiding0 10 cars
hushed basalt
Or 40 cats
clear ferry
And my axe
wet pilot
i'd have to double check
clear ferry
midnight adder
hushed basalt
Halo master chief collection is on sale
tough igloo
Doesn’t include halo reach 😢
clear ferry
Halo 
hushed basalt
Yes it does?
Buy Halo: The Master Chief Collection
Includes 7 items: Halo: The Master Chief Collection, Halo: Reach, Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary, Halo 2: Anniversary, Halo 3, Halo 3: ODST, Halo 4
WEEKEND DEAL! Offer ends 7 April
@tough igloo
Halo reach is the best one though
clear ferry
Is this the optimal trackball @clever mortar ? https://www.apple.com/no/shop/product/HJ322LL/A/ablenet-bigtrack-trackball-mouse
velvet horizonBOT
Tinkerer is away for 10h 21m 52s with a message :point_right: Where there is cake, there is hope. And there is always cake.
clear ferry
tough igloo
Oh wow. I’m sure I got it a while ago and it wasn’t included @hushed basalt
hushed basalt
Trackballs are supreme
hushed basalt
I've got the wireless logitech one that tilts
It's not bad. It's a thumb ball though.
It's heavy too. It's not a travel mouse
wet pilot
logitech
clever mortar
I've been using the Logitech ones for years, on the M570 now
wet pilot
the newer ones have the awesome scroll wheel
clever mortar
Yeah, and if you want to travel with it you can get some nice hard cases to protect it
clear ferry
Ordered the 570 
2 weeks delivery, but £20 cheaper than the ones who had it in stock
I wish Microsoft would start making these again
clever mortar
Yeah, the new ones aren't as good
clear ferry
They are shite
I've had two of them, and the wife just bought one, because there is only one really
The 4000
But frankly it doesn't compare
hushed basalt
It's about A$125
clear ferry
I hate flat keys
hushed basalt
That includes the mouse which is just a paperweight or skip bin ballast though
clear ferry
It's AUD220 here
hushed basalt
Oofph
I wouldn't pay that. Especially since it's really just the keyboard and numberpad
The function keys are rubbish
And being a split it forces touch typing
clever mortar
Touch typing FTW 😉
hushed basalt
But I like it.
clear ferry
Yes that is where the old natural keyboard was premium
hushed basalt
I do wish it had a trackball in the middle though
clear ferry
It forced me to learn touch
hushed basalt
Also if you break or lose the dongle you have to throw the whole thing away
clever mortar
I've been touch typing for almost as long as I've been using computers 🙂
hushed basalt
I had something similae
clear ferry
@clever mortar I removed all the keys on my regular keyboard in 1996 and put them back random places to learn their placement
hushed basalt
I'm not a fan of tenkeys now though
Gotta get that mouse close
That is the drawback when you're navigating code with your cursor to peck in little brackets here or there
It's harder to one hand a split ergo
While I can type reasonably well lefthanded on a straight keyboard
All those years of playing PC games before voice chat :D
You type quick or you die
clear ferry
Hah
I have never had issues onehanding anything
Remember when I started in the company many years ago, I was 23 and the youngest by far, I was put to do notes on one of our first meetings and all my colleagues were like
They were typing like they all had arthritis and I typed so fast there was smoke rising from the keyboard
hushed basalt
Yeah I've always been the fastest typer in the room
My daughters GP is pretty quick though too
clear ferry
My family GP is a 65yo Bosnian,he types like air to ground missiles
hushed basalt
Lol
I feel sorry for GPs who had to move to paperless systems and can't type for shit
But they're probably the type who 40 years ago would have harrased people who can't write neat cursive
strange vapor
I use a MS Natural 4000 on my desktop. Started using it years ago after a bout with RSI
clear ferry
Yeah I've had 2x 4000s
Both broke with random keys stopped working
Bought my wife one two weeks ago, let's see how long it lives
@hushed basalt in Norway the gps could opt to receive journals on floppy until atleast 2019, so the norwegian gp organisation bought all floppies that were in Norwegian stocks around 2008
They might be able to opt for that still
strange vapor
The 4000 I'm using was bought in 2008, and it still going strong. Have a spare one which was bought when a local IT store was going out of business which hasn't even been unboxed 🙂
clear ferry
Yeah, mine lasted 4-5 years each
clever mortar
My first had the cable fall apart, and the wrist wrest disintegrate - about 4 to 5 years of usage too
strange vapor
clear ferry
Pantsu... misete moratte yoroshii desu ka @last plaza
Yohohohohohohohoh
Mmm week shopping before easter
And we have stuff in the stores
Come on over muuricans
fading zodiac
Last week or so i spoke with someone about ergonomic work place
You were involved @clear ferry
but who else was
fading zodiac
mkay
last dirge
project jankycam is a go
last dirge
no, bought a cheapo ONVIF capable PoE camera
clear ferry
Oh, I'm gonna jankycam an old android phone with gaffer tape on my monitor
last dirge
heh
I'm printing a mount for the thing it's supposed to be looking at
there's no way to attach it to the camera body
the "visor" on this camera is part of the case and can't be removed so there's no stud on there to take advantage of
I think I'm going to have to build something that will go all the way to the back of the camera where the mount attaches
last plaza
@clear ferry iyye 😊
last plaza
Perfect weekend weather here.
clear ferry
10c and sunny here, can't complain, my parents still have 2m of snow
last plaza
Snow 🤢
clear ferry
last plaza
Back in the days, I used to be like snow 😍
clear ferry
I love it, I want to move back north 90% because of snow
last plaza
Let me know if you want to borrow my snow blower. It is sitting in the garage since I bought it n
clear ferry
Not much snow here this year, been like this for most parts since December
last plaza
That looks nice.
clear ferry
We do a lot of forest in Norway
I was surprised at how much trees there was in Georgia
I had only been on the east coast before
last plaza
There are a lot of trees in the USA.
clear ferry
clear ferry
Helmet rather?
last plaza
Helmet cam is other option. For that, I need helmet. Stores are closed. 😃
clear ferry
last plaza
I have GoPro at home, I could use it right away
clear ferry
Just glue it to your head
last plaza
lol
clear ferry
Not like you are using it anyway
last plaza
Super glue
clear ferry
Tec7 should do it
last plaza
We don’t get it in USA. That looks like European brand
last plaza
lmao
boreal pewter
atxblyat only friend of ak47
last plaza
Just got notification that I am nearing the storage on my iCloud. Apple by default stores everything on iCloud. There is no default option unless I turn off iCloud backup. It sucks.
Every time I install a new app, I have to go in there and turn off explicitly. Sucks ass.
clear ferry
Yeah, I run nextcloud for stuff like that
last plaza
I prefer to manage my own cloud.
vale vault
Any clue what the issue is when check config button just keeps showing that green loading circle?
last plaza
Green means good. After that, it should turn to blue. If you keep clicking, it will keep validating and keep turning green, and turns back blue.
strange vapor
https://www.jwz.org/blog/2002/11/engineering-pornography/ Interesting read!
clear ferry
Masts set on fire over false 5G coronavirus claims - https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-52164358
rare condor
@clear ferry In fairness people are retarded
strange vapor
last dirge
there's at least one person that believes windmills cause cancer whose last name is not Quixote
last plaza
That’s what people used to believe in flash photography ironically 🤣
vale vault
have zones been discontinued?
brisk glen
I like the new mouse support in iPadOS
last plaza
@vale vault zones are such an integral part of location tracking, It will never be discontinued. Also, #672217570283094017 or #330944238910963714 for questions like these.
@brisk glen it never had before? I never tried it, but assume it has support for BT keyboard and mouse.
vale vault
thanks skalalalalavaa I'll head there
brisk glen
@last plaza iPad os 13.4 added proper mouse support
It’s dynamic as well
The pointer changes depending on the context its hovering over
clear ferry
@brisk glen I love when apple comes along with stuff android has had for years and go groundbreaking, new amazing features
brisk glen
@clear ferry lol, but the dynamic cursor is really nice
clear ferry
wet pilot
Lol Android has had that for forever
clear ferry
Atleast 10 years
brisk glen
Android had a transforming cursor systemwide that changed if you moved over a button etc?
brisk glen
Lol
brisk glen
Sounds like something Microsoft is going to do for everything soon
tidal bronze
clear ferry
The numbers for Norway were interesting
We have gone 65% less to social places like bars and restaurants since 13th of march
And 42% less to grocery stores
Found an old picture of my garage from 11 years ago or something
clear ferry
Was from a customer solution we used for POC
Was 5 42u racks total
When we moved we had no room for it, so I took one
Plus the little one
clever mortar
Damn shame 😄
green inlet
Ok, slowly learning docker and docker-compose. I get creating a folder on the host, outside of the docker, to store persistent settings. What I can’t figure out is where to put the docker-compose file. Does it matter?
wet pilot
Not really, just remember where it is
clever mortar
🤣
wet pilot
Lol
clever mortar
I create a folder for them
But then, after years of running systems, I have standards I follow 🤷
green inlet
Hey look atx made a funny
wet pilot
I have a /docker folder where I put everything
clear ferry
Or a hpux customer that noticed /stand was very large, so he deleted it, fine and well until the reboot
clever mortar
Turns out certain versions of Solaris wouldn't reboot without /dev/null
clear ferry
clever mortar
That was fun helping somebody else fix
green inlet
I guess how does the docker commands know where it is
green inlet
You have to tell it
clever mortar
Always
green inlet
Ok. That makes sense
clever mortar
Some things have default locations, or search paths
But, generally speaking, with anything on a computer - it needs told (somehow)
green inlet
So, I should just put it somewhere that makes my navel wobble
clever mortar
As long as you remember
clear ferry
Just make bash aliases
clever mortar
Basically, now is a good time to start making standards 😉
green inlet
I know where everything is that makes my navel wobble
Atx has been social distancing too long me thinks. Sad thing is, I don’t understand the jokes 🤣
clever mortar
You have to have been doing unix for too wrong for any of his jokes to make sense 😉
clear ferry
clever mortar
Otherwise, like UDP, you won't always get it ...
green inlet
Ok. I think I got that
clever mortar
green inlet
Ok so to get id dockeruser do I need an actual docker running?
clever mortar
I suspect dockeruser is a placeholder for your user account
But... depends on where you're reading that 😉
clever mortar
Not with that name
wet pilot
There's a group
green inlet
I am trying very hard to follow this
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/nginx-reverse-proxy-set-up-guide-docker/54802
clever mortar
Yeah, that's a place holder for your Docker user
green inlet
And Tinkerer, after reading up all the links. Am I correct to say that ssl uses synchronous vs https that uses asynchronous?
green inlet
Auh, if my user is pi. I just run id pi
wet pilot
Yup
green inlet
If I make it there I think it will be. The letsencrypt thing is tough for me. Having one cert in one place that updates for all my webservers seems like a good thing
Do I have to create the file structure for the docker compose volumes of the docker compose will do that ?
wet pilot
Basically, this makes it so your apps don't have to care about certs anymore
clever mortar
If so, create the volumes the way you want. If not, don't worry about it
green inlet
The docker compose file has folders I do not have.
/home/pi/docker/letsencrypt/config:/config
Worried about permissions and would like the docker compose file to actually create the files so it is done right if possible
Ok. My bad. Directions say to to create the directory.
wet pilot
Yep, gotta make them. And it doesn't have to be that path
Left side is on your system. Usually need to leave the right side alone
green inlet
Right, so on my system I mkdir /home/pi/docker/letsencrypt/config
tidal bronze
@dull chasm did you test DSD on 3080 yet ?
light trout
That is cheating
green inlet
Ok, so I did all I could and now can’t hit the HAss instance.
I didn’t do this part as I have no idea what it is
You need to edit all the sections containing fastcgi_pass hostip:9000; and proxy_pass http://hostip 23:XXXX;
clear ferry
brisk glen
dull chasm
@tidal bronze dsd?
tidal bronze
Yes
dull chasm
i dont do crooked ....just saying
tidal bronze
Have you tried 5.8MHz.
tidal bronze
Try some DSD tracks let me know. I am using DLNA from NAS
clear ferry
2.8MHz 
dull chasm
you got from usenet or something?
clear ferry
You need Nils Lofgren - Acoustic @tidal bronze no use playing anything else for reference
tidal bronze
Must check it out. I use Stax mainly
restive pond
clever mortar
#hardware-archived or #integrations-archived @restive pond
green inlet
I think I am close with this docker thing. I got the container up and running and think I did my nginx config correctly but I can’t hit my HAss instance. Where can I look for error messages?
last plaza
@restive pond every vacuum comes with a wire. Just connect to power, it becomes connected.
clever mortar
Can you connect directly to it @green inlet ?
wet pilot
docker logs -f container-name
clever mortar
Then it's a problem with your NGINX config most likely
green inlet
I am pretty sure. Where can I find an example of default
That is where everything is config correct
Also. Do I something about x-forwarder in my HAss config?
green inlet
Tired now. Been looking at it all day. If I hastebin my nginx setup will you look at it? Way above my head
clever mortar
Sure
My own config is at https://github.com/DubhAd/Home-AssistantConfig/tree/master/etc/nginx/conf.d for reference
dull chasm
shh audio is more important
clever mortar
Yes, silent audio is important. I'm glad you agree 😉
dull chasm
quality at 1000w is important ...me and @tidal bronze need all the details
green inlet
Ok. Will look at yours first and see if it helps.
tidal bronze
@clear ferry dude Thank you. 👍
strange vapor
clear ferry
@tidal bronze it's the best album you'll hear most of your life
clear ferry
@hushed basalt
dull chasm
@clear ferry
last dirge
@clear ferry Jankycam is turning out not to be so janky
dull chasm
DING Wake up @clear ferry you are being summuned
last dirge
@dull chasm it's Bobby California
dull chasm
huh
last dirge
that dude had a character on The Office called Bobby California
dull chasm
oh.... I was about to say I aint no snowflake
@last dirge
but i do like that song ^^^
forest edge
Let's do the corona shuffle.. everybody do the corona shuffle..
dull chasm
keep your distance ...no hugging this time
forest edge
one of my friends was thinking we reached the peak here in the midwest and I was like.. dude have you not seen the tidal wave coming from the east coast of infection? lol
the comfirmed cases map shows a wave sweeping the nation in the swipe left motion lol
green inlet
Left ——>right and right——>left. Going to meet in the middle
cli and poof 12 hours gone
last dirge
@dull chasm his version of the national anthem that got him death threats is one of the best ever
dull chasm
yea no doubt
last dirge
blind dude singing about "oh say can you see" is pretty funny though
dull chasm
oh he is blind ..i didnt know
last dirge
you didn't?
dull chasm
no
pearl wind
Quick question: Is HACS still working with 0.107.7? I haven't found any docs on using it with newer versions
forest edge
should hope so, i'm using it with 107.7
pearl wind
Got it. I guess I can give it a try than .
last plaza
Any new grimm news for today? Haven't watched tv yet
wet pilot
'parrently NC is beating projections to the good side
last plaza
cool... I see Alabama is going for state wide shutdown...
last dirge
did you hear the news about the federal stockpile being sold to distributors instead of given to states?
last plaza
shit.. I did not see that!
last dirge
that's why the governors are ending up bidding one another
so the stuff that was bought with taxpayer funds is being sold to distributors
then states are having to call those distributors and buy them
with more taxpayer money obvs
last plaza
damn it! probably making shit load of money in the middle
last dirge
my 3d printer is too small :/
dull chasm
thats what she said
last plaza
@last dirge done with the irrigation system?
last dirge
no
the relay board I got isn't latching
I'm trying to teach myself how flip flop circuits work and how I'd implement that so I can add latching to them
junior pagoda
does anyone know if it's possible to emulate a bluetooth keyboard for control of a device, like the harmony hub
last plaza
why not drive independent relays?
last dirge
not enough IO
last plaza
have multiple esp8266 boards for each zone
and drive relays/solenoids from each of those on demand
last dirge
don't want to deal with that much stuff
I've already got to multiplex the I2C since all of the sensors have the same damn address
last plaza
these parts are cheap, I'd go with the easy and known route 😉
last dirge
I don't want the "knowledge" split up like that
last plaza
lol
last dirge
if I wanted to add a rain sensor, I'd have to add it X times instead of one
last plaza
you keep all the "knowledge" in HA, they are just command receivers
last dirge
and I'd have to have multiple buck converters
which cost about the same as a flip-flop IC
so, it's meh
last plaza
may be time to 3d-print something that you can replicate
last dirge
I'm currently printing a mount for jankycam
last plaza
ok... how far is the camera from the 7 segment display?
last dirge
I don't have anything that fit the bill
and regardless of what I used, it'd have to have a rigid mount so that the camera's always in the same spot
last plaza
oh man, I went to a thrift store and picked up beautiful web cameras for $2 each
last dirge
the 7-segment component relies on XY offset
last plaza
yes, I saw the 7-segment component
last dirge
so you have to tell it where the display starts and ends
and if that's not repeatable then it's not so useful
last plaza
yup
last dirge
I already disassembled the camera to figure out if there was a way I could do it differently
there wasn't, really
so I drilled holes for bolts and I'm gonna bolt a plastic bracket to it 🙂
last plaza
cool
last dirge
for the irrigation thing, there's no way in hell I'm programming all of that in hass
I'll probably end up feeding state data but that'll probably be it
my vacation that's not really a vacation starts Tuesday
so I'll have time to figure it out
last plaza
lol
last dirge
I was supposed to be in the DR
wet pilot
What did you end up going with for irrigation? I need to get mine fixed and then add a better controller
last dirge
buuuuut
@wet pilot for my actual irrigation system I'm using an OpenSprinklerPi
for this garden irrigation system I'm rolling my own
wet pilot
Ah cool
last dirge
SHT20 sensors for soil moisture
relays to drive 12V pumps to use water from a catchment tank
wet pilot
I have 4 zones and I want to do something better than a simple timer
last dirge
OpenSprinkler's been good for me
replaced my crappy RainBird system the builder installed
wet pilot
Yeah, that's what I have right now