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@dull chasm current setup with around 100+ devices. 50% of ESP connected to AC mesh units
54 nice! you are getting there 100+ wireless devices ๐
I'm to the point where my ASUS router is aging and starting to have issues
need to do more WAPs
Been very happy with the Linksys mesh points I bought does what I need
of course gateway is not reporting all clients
And if I need more I have 25 aps I can use for random stuff in my garage
damn @clear ferry send a couple here
Linksys? Mannnnn brings back memories
oh not linksys
Good ol WRT54G days ๐
no doubt but them damn things were bullet proof
@tidal bronze you have any idea why that esp in middle would not recieve communcations .... i could move 1 foot from under bed and it was fine
These are the velops, deliver 500 Mbit to my laptop without hickup
If you are already running nano-hd get a AP AC LR. Turn off 5G and load all the 2.4 ESP on to that. You will be very happy. @dull chasm
Three of them for $130 when I bought them
what makes it smart?
@tidal bronze I really should bite the bullet and deal with opening up a wall/ceiling to put in a WAP
@midnight adder seems meh
i wasnt sure just asking haha
could buy a Fire tablet for about half that and stick it on a little stand
Anything "smart" is most likely not a "good investment", but that does not mean they are useless
As for that clock spesific, I want one
@last dirge yep worth it.
That doesn't use the Google smart display interface does it? I'd just get one of those instead
@orchid rose the hub, you mean?
yes
I don't think so
or the alternatives
@tidal bronze my problem is that my entire downstairs area except for a half bath has one contiguous ceiling
so if I have to patch and paint the ceiling, I have to do the whole damn ceiling
i want some screen on my night stand
where do you put your phone at night?
dont want to use my ipad for it
on the ground next to me lol
i use it as an alarm clock
i dont have one
Who needs clocks these days with Alexa/Google?
@last dirge do upstairs
fair
People who don't want to ask what time it is
my 5GHz attenuation between floors is pretty shit
woman @green inlet
@last dirge on in the middle might not work great. I would put 1 up and 1 down.
@tidal bronze unless the range is exceptionally good, I'd have to put one in the garage too
Yea, I get that.....my wife always says things like, โturn off the bedroom lightโ. When she can say, โAlexa........turn off the bedroom lightโ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
I do have one in the garage ๐ @last dirge
I had to put one out there to get signal outside of my garage door so my car was happy
๐
aluminum door with a wood facade
I have 2 outside the house and 3 inside @last dirge
but you live in a palace
You can try one outside the garage
What I want to know is, is @valid halo ok
Someone's worried about me?
@last dirge just go LoRA
I am currently alive and not in hospital
Can be applied to mostly anything
@last dirge you can actually try one in the top floor ceiling and one outside.
Make a pringles antenna
I had a friend who has a Tesla and parking 20 meters from the house, he built one after asking me and got firmware upgrades going 
Yagi?
@last dirge I don't think using the ASUS as the baseline for penetration is a good idea ๐
Teslas FTW
The more I hear about them the more I'm glad I can't get one.
Shitty cars, nice concept
@tidal bronze I'm not, I'm using my other WAP as a baseline
Which one?
hmmm
it's probably ~10 feet to the side
do you have lead lining ๐
I even have full coverage in my concrete garage from the floor above 
it's an ASRock motherboard with an external antenna
hey guys, what motion sensors do you recommend? (zigbee / zwave)
So from desktop about 18' to AP ?
@gentle ferry Xiaomi 4 lyfe
@last dirge nothing at all, i'm just starting to make a list of what to get ๐
then either
That might be the AP antenna config itself then
@last dirge either what?
@tidal bronze it's also mounted vertically which could be screwing with stuff
@gentle ferry either zigbee or zwave
Pick an ecosystem and stick with it.
either one's going to need a radio to talk to the network
just see what else is available for whatever protocol you think you want to go with
@last dirge yeah I meant what specific brand/model is recommended. I will be using HA, and a zigbee/zwave stick
the one that ticks the most boxes wins
I haven't heard great things about that combo stick
@last dirge it was the one that was recommended in here
Cc1352 + Xiaomi + tradfri, great budget, great functionality
@last dirge i've had good luck with it at least
@clear ferry can you do tradfri without their gateway yet?
rumor has it there was a bad batch of them made about a year ago
@last dirge no info on radiation pattern on that AP datasheet ๐
Of course @last dirge you always have
oh, cool
guys let's all ping @last dirge
mutes channel
@last dirge @last dirge
Brian LONGNAME Cribbs
lol
wowza
@last dirge do you think sticking to a specific protocol is a better idea?
@gentle ferry if what @scenic radish said is true, they may have fixed the issues with the stick I was familiar with
in which case, it doesn't matter
I see
@gentle ferry , also depends on the number of devices you plan on having. The more devices in a single protocol, the better the mesh
yes
Not really
@tidal bronze i went ahead a got another nano and a LR ....if it dont work right i am billing ya
sure thing
i'm heavily biased toward zigbee but i do have a couple z-wave devices
twice amount of parts ....pain and suffering ...labor .....
@green inlet so far, only thing planned are switches and motion sensors (for controlling said switches)
anything that i can get that supports zigbee i'll probably go zigbee, but if there's no zigbee version, z-wave it is
You wonโt stop there....๐
@green inlet I run. Wifi, zigbee, zwave and zwave plus not a single issue.
@green inlet you are 100% correct, lol
Closing in on 100 ZigBee here 
I'm small time with ~40ish z-wave switches
so I guess my question should be, what brands/models do you guys use or had the best experience with for switches and motion sensors (both zigbee/zwave, doens't matte) ๐
since i'm really new. to the automation game, i know nothing
@green inlet lol not there yet. 100+ wifi, about 80 z wave plus, about 40 zwave and 30 or so zigbee
im not familiar with brands and what they can provide
all i want is stuff that doesn't connect to the outside 3rd party shit
I just counted, 28 zwave devices including my usb ๐คฃ
@clear ferry damn son. how many of each device type do you have?
why the hell is there a "US version" of this?https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-UniFi-UAP-AC-LR-Single-Version/dp/B01609AF22/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=AC+LR&qid=1584714707&sr=8-4
power adapter or something else?
No, wifi bands
You guys are all going to get some 2015 disease from all the signal bouncing around your house ๐คฃ
@last dirge thats the exact one i just ordered
is there a room specifically for equipment/hardware?
@gentle ferry no one method is the RIGHT one. You have to do some research, trial and error to find the best for your needs.
@scenic radish most tradfri lights, but the rest Xiaomi sensors, door, motion, buttons etc
@tidal bronze got it, thanks
50+ are lights here
Itโs like anything else, ask 10 different people in here and you will prob get 11 different answers
@dull chasm are you doing PoE?
haha
Everyone likes what they like
yes
btw, does HA run ok on a pi2?
what switch?
I have been happy with zwave
or are you using injectors?
@last dirge comes with the POE adapter
PoE 4 lyfe
questions on the listing say it doesn't
@gentle ferry no
this will go on 24 port
that's a lot of coin on switches you've got there
I would get a pi 3 at minimum but I guess it will run on a 2
well they are the home runs to rooms and shed etc
@last dirge don't make me pull up my switches 
@last dirge that's BS. What power supply? It only has a POE port lol
56 ports
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Wouldnโt know what to do with 45 of them
๐คฃ
Ok, maybe 40
You should see the 768 port switches I install then @green inlet
At your house?
๐คฃ
@green inlet adding another switch for 8 more to master bedroom ..... i dont have enough ethernet wires run to each room
No, I only have 96g+8xg+4fg in my core, and 24g+4xg in my distribution
@green inlet
I saw a post somewhere where a guy building his house had like 350 home runs. Just in case๐คฆ๐ปโโ๏ธ
@green inlet are you talking about me? lol
@tidal bronze no shit ....how many runs to each room ?
8
Ok, 4 runs to every room would mean, like almost 100 room house
@clear ferry damn, i have one lying around. Gotta buy a pi4 I guess
damn i expected 16 ๐คฃ
@clear ferry lol, so a pi4 vs docker on an older machine?
Latter
@gentle ferry , when I first started, I would agree with you. If you even think you are going to grow. Might as well get a NUC and just be done with it
Although my current system runs absolutely perfect on a pi3
These guys just like to have penis size competitions.
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@green inlet my current home "server" is an old thinkpad (i7 L620, 2GHZ and 8GB RAM), so far satisfying all my needs
lol
That would be better than a pi2
Auh, not dedicated to HAss
I like the pi because of its small footprint. It can be hidden away and not taking up space somewhere
was thinking of HA in docker
That would be for another channel
I put in 4 runs to my media center
I have a pi3 running pi-hole and unifi
I almost immediately had to add a switch
Bump to a pi4 for Pihole, or even a droid, and use pi3 for HAss
my receiver, IR blaster, ShieldTV, and WAP ate them all up
@green inlet good idea, but do you think that HA in docker isn't good enough on that system?
I donโt use docker so ๐คท๐ผโโ๏ธ
docker on a Pi is asking for problems IMO
My pi3 is only running HAss stuff in a VEnv.....but these questions should be moved to #330944238910963714 or #672217570283094017
So we can get on to more important things like me WFH for the first time in 30 years
@last dirge no, i meant docker on the thinkpad i mentioned above, in addition to some "home" services
haha
oh
@green inlet what do you do? i mean anybody working in IT has WFH as normal
Depends on where you are, and who you work for
I run a NUC with Ubuntu
WFH is not normal for most of the world ๐
and dockerized a bunch of stuff
During the day....I sell candy to small children.....at night i part-time as a pimp
Canโt do that from home
@last dirge i really want a NUC, but then considering of building a small AMD case
WFH doesn't work with military IT 
@green inlet haha, i'll try to guess
so you're a sales guy during the day, and hosting online services at night?
@last dirge how do you manage your backups? a separate machine for that?
or 3!
Most go for three
my hass config is kind of convoluted
my secret stuff is symlinked into my home directory from a separate NFS mount from everything else
rsnapshot backs that up
the rest has its own rsnapshot backup as well but is also a github repository so I can sync it that way
My backups are:
0) SD card images (for Pi)
- Local (on box) snapshots if appropriate
- Local (network) backups (rsnapshot) - multiple destinations for critical stuff
- Cloud backups (rclone) - multiple destinations for critical stuff
Local covers normal recovery. Cloud covers fire/theft/other disaster
@clever mortar what provider are you using for your cloud backups?
I'm using B2 and Google
B2 for the bulk, Google for the bits of duplicates
I think I'm finally paying more than $0.50 a month for my B2 usage ๐
I currently have 5TB in Google cloud for $20 a month,so far happy
hmm not bad
Gonna move 10TB more there when I have time
do you have to pay more if you want to download yoru stuff?
noice
I'm using Digital Ocean's Object Storage stuff, and it just works.
Not too expensive either. Definitely cheaper than AWS S3 for my usage.
I'm looking forward to deploy some MAPR
what's that
I've been wfh for almost 2 years now. SOOOOO much more productive without having to do any peopling
@gentle ferry global namespace storage
Damn, Linda Lusardi has "the virus". There's a name from my youth...
wow, zwave hardware is expensive
Yes, hence ZigBee
I bought 3 zwave devices and discovered I could buy 4-5 ZigBee devices for each zwave device and dropped it
oh zigbee is cheaper? sounds good, but why cheaper? is zwave somehow better than zigbee in something?
Zwave used to be licensed, ZigBee was open
WiFi is even cheaper, if you build it yourself you can get devices for a few dollars
yeah, espXX is pretty cheap, but i was thinking of going the mesh path, I guess i'll have to mix
esp8266 can do mesh networking
interesting
when I started z-wave had far better quality hardware and reliability
anybody tried the ikea tradfri stuff? i can see it's zigbee
@last dirge and it's not right now?
It is #zigbee-archived
there's still way better hardware available for z-wave stuff since it just recently went open-source there's not a ton of manufacturers producing low-quality hardware with z-wave radios in it
Tradfri 4 lyfe
with zigbee, there are a TON of manufacturers and you should definitely look for feedback on whatever you're going to buy before buying it
@last dirge got it
@clear ferry so I assume you had pleasant experience with ikea ?
I have 50+ bulbs
when it costs a lot to license something to put it in your hardware, you're less likely to make shitty hardware ๐
So yes
how big is your house?!
252mยฒ
haha
in freedom units
Threefiddly
Itโs an overstatement calling freedom when we are all locked up in the house with rest of the world
You're free to stay inside ๐
That is just the tradfri ones @last dirge
isn't it a better idea getting a smart switch instead of a bulb?
I have more than that
@gentle ferry IMO, absolutely
Nice a base64 encoded something
Smart switch where there's a switch
Smart light elsewhere
@clever mortar if not switch, then a smart plug
If you put a smart switch to a smart bulb, you double the smartness
always better than a bulb imo..
eh
I have 14 tradfri and one gledopto in my main floor living room
for lamps and such, bulbs are probably just as easy
not nearly as cheap as a plug though
@clear ferry you should get that checked out
gledopto sounds painful
And 5 tradfri and 2 yeelight in my upstairs living room
And 3 tradfri, 2 hue and 1 gledopto in my kitchen
2 hue and 1 yeelight in my bedroom, 2 tradfri in my daughter's bedroom
3 tradfri and 2 hue in my wife's office and 3 tradfri in my office
6 tradfri in the basement, and 12 tradfri outdoors
And come to think of it, 2 tradfri in the WC, and two in the outer hallway 
Their motion sensors are ok motion sensors, and useless light sensors
The Z-Wave ones are great ๐
I have 3 Xiaomi motion sensors, 5 Xiaomi door sensors, 7 Xiaomi buttons and 2 Xiaomi cubes though
Fibaro and Aeotec multi-sensors
so yes ๐
The Fibaro looks better when you turn the light down ๐
how long are you getting out of the battery?
what's it use?
Lives in the living room, handling all the lighting related automations
I bet fibaro stuff is expensive, was just looking at their eye of sauron
really nice design
My oldest Xiaomi motion is now at 1 year, and it is still reporting 100% battery
Fibaro seems to be bigger outside of the US
They are very big in Norway
My friends who just buy overpriced shit like homey buy fibaro
@clever mortar looks like new ones use CR123s
I think that's the one I've got
they say 2 years
I may have reporting set too high for that ๐
I still have a wired alarm panel in the basement
may end up just putting in more wired PIRs and use those
@clever mortar so the ikea motion sensor has a short range or a slow trigger?
The zwave neo coolcams I have use 123s
they're all zwave aren't they?
@clear ferry report back after testing those ikea motion sensors
eerr zigbee
@clear ferry i'm assuming you got those, https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/tradfri-wireless-motion-sensor-white-60377655/
I was talking about this aeotec one https://aeotec.com/z-wave-sensor/
@gentle ferry I won't
they're proud of that thing
They were shite
if only there were a blog to give you notes about what's in a release
That's Ikea smart home prices @gentle ferry
If the site hasn't updated yet, it'll be in the queue
talking about the Aeotec Multisensor 6
Z-Wave is pricy, because it's a full standard
Zigbee is cheap, because it's the Wild Wild West
@sleek void ikea is priced reasonably, i mean $10 for the sensor isn't bad
Zigbee is also a full standard
but yeah i see your point @clever mortar
it just ins't controlled and regulated by a single company
Zigbee 3.0 is becoming a full standard
Before that, it was far from it
1.2 was some vague guidance by comparison
With Z-Wave devices all work together
Most of the time... I have had several z-wave devices that continuously disconnect.
I have had more problems with z-wave than zigbee tbh
Non-plus is the same mess as Zigbee 1.2
Yeah, all my z-wave stuff is plus
So a zigbee 3.0 dongle should work for all 3.0 devices or at least be capable of it?
Well, #zigbee-archived would be the place to ask about that ๐
@clear ferry btw, do you use the nortek usb stick for your zwave/zigbee stuff?
Z-Wave sticks are region specific
That's hilarious
Same for Zigbee 3.0 ๐
Zigbee sticks you can buy on AliExpress for a few dollars
The ISM bands are region specific
Different regions have different Wireless specifications due to regulations
RFID is also region specific btw
Yea
So are Cell phones
Basically, if it's RF, it's region/country specific except for a very few things
And WiFi to an extent
Yeah
wait, doesn't hass support sonoff devices?
lol
i did check integrations on the website and didn't see it supported, i was surprised since it is a popular smart wifi brand
Well, if you ask over there, I'm sure somebody can point stuff out to you that you've missed ๐
stolen from work chat:
The devil went down to Walmart,
He was looking for a roll to steal,
He was in a bind,
He was clenching his behind,
He was lookin' to make deal.

Ohio state of emergency declared. ๐
they didn't want to feel left out
Yup. I can see rest will follow soon
damn pollen
UK:
Cafes, pubs and restaurants must close from Friday night, except for take-away food
All the UK's nightclubs, theatres, cinemas, gyms and leisure centres have also been told to close "as soon as they reasonably can"
I have to mow the lawn so I have to wear a half-face respirator in addition to a hat and a set of earmuffs
I'd just wear a regular mask but it fogs up my glasses
so I have to look like an idiot
(more than usual, I guess)
woooooof
What's that about @tidal bronze?
Some stocks are just yummy ๐
But but why
๐
Stocks 
Illegal to head to your cabin in Norway now unless it is in the same municipality that you live in 
Cabin?
Yes, you know, a building you own, close to the mountains or in the forest
if you're using letsencrypt with wildcard subdomains, what dns provider are you using with certbot?
You have nginx/other proxy?
nginx
Just grab a 15y cert from cloudflare
i've been updating dns records manually for the past year and it sucks
@light trout I thought the rules changed this year that no new SSL certs can be more than a year
It issued a new 15y yesterday
I think Apple plans to change Safari so it will reject certs that are valid for more than a year
I'm pretty sure Mozilla and Chromium mentioned doing that too
Apple ๐คข
@tidal bronze shouldn't you be investing in lysol now? lol
Nopes hell bent on carnival
lol the cruise line?
Yes sir
you know they may tank right?
Not thinking that far lol https://stocktwits.com/symbol/CCL
if you go down that road may as well play the long game and see if it pays off
suprised 3M is doing as bad as they are
quadfight doing fast-frequency trading himself
No more work


Murricans will be getting checks in mail soon - $1000 for adult and $500 per kid
@vestal cape more money to buy more stocks ๐
TP ๐ธ
eh i'd rather it go to normal folks instead of directly to corporations
especially with how they handled it last time
I hear you only get 600 if you paid no taxes
They paid last time?
Murricans will be getting checks in mail soon - $1000 for adult and $500 per kid
@last plaza that won't pass as is
Iโm sure! Just sayinโ. 2020 has been interesting so far!
Wonder what 3030 brings
well it's going to get messier before it gets better thats for sure lol
Or any piece of dev work
lol
@light trout the way things are, there wonโt be 3030 ๐
Good! Would be too long of a wait anyway
I'm fairly sure I'll be dead by then
lol - thatโs not our problem ๐
@clever mortar don't you mean "obsolete"? ๐ค
Stay at home order issued for Illinois until April 7
Only until 7th? Thatโs not bad. Some states are going as far as 30 days.
They said it could very well be extended
it will be
Can still go to grocery stores, gas stations, etc
we american's don't follow rules well lol
Yup. Definitely donโt think the schools wi be reopen for the rest of the school year.
So not sure how it's different than what I'm already doing lol
@scenic radish same
Indiana closed all the public schools until May 1st
Now it's just official I guess
people are like "oh, I have to stay home all week"
I wouldn't be surprised to see that extended to the rest of the school year
I had to go to the bank and the butcher today
When we all get used to work from home, we will have a real problem when we have to go to work.
There is an easy solve, never go back ๐
yeah im not looking forward to having to return to the office in a few weeks lol
As long as the butcher has butchers knife in hand, he will have the meat. Donโt care what meat that is.
I've been in an office maybe a total of 10 days in that entire timeframe
If I can work from everyday, donโt see a reason to be in Ohio. I could work from a nice beach somewhere
beaches are infested with covid-19 spring breakers atm
because Florida
Thatโs where most old people are. High risk zone for coronavirus!
profits over people tho
i thought miami closed them last night no?
NY count is nuts https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
Most of the NY numbers are from New York City where people are so packed together you can't really isolate...
Out of the 7,102 cases 4,408 are from New York City
NY is one of the few States that bother testing it seems
We don't actually know how many people they are testing... They don't post those numbers
Alaska has tested 698 people so far which is almost 1 out of every 1000 people in the state
Lol webcam sales are up 1735% in Norway
๐
Lol webcam sales are up 1735% in Norway
@clear ferry but not for reasons we would all think lol
@clear ferry in the time of need, some people buy toilet papers, some buy guns and some buy web cams ๐ I donโt understand people!
I was planning on buying a webcam, since the camera built into my work laptop is lousy
Also, where it's positioned people get a great view up my nose ๐
I hate those cams. My laptop cAmera is not on top of screen. It is on the bottom right above keyboard. Makes it worst.
Yeah I have an XPS that is a couple years old, and has the webcam down low... But I have it on a laptop stand and it is acutally above my main monitor, so it works fine
@last plaza matebook?
@shy comet seen any shield pro's? Amazon had it for like few minutes and missed it ๐ฆ
@clever mortar I was too, but now I'm thinking of using droidcam with my old Huawei
Tinkerer is away for 19m 52s with a message :point_right: If you don't want to be noticed, you don't use a Star Destroyer.
@tidal bronze i have not
@hushed basalt dell
Ooh. Not that one. That looks.... different. Never seen one like that
I usually put a tape on my laptop camera. Donโt want to expose myself on Skype meetings at work - especially when you work from home where wearing pants are options ๐
So I thought I was being smart, boost ventilation when cooking based on netatmo noise level, well netatmo interval is 10minutes ๐ฎ
There's going to be a lot of webcam incidents this year
Especially spouses and such walking into the room when you're in a meeting
Was on a call this morning with a co-worker, he was talking, and his dog was barking in the background. When he is done talking, I said, I agree with your dog. ๐คฃ
Iโve seen that kid video. lol
Yi outdoor cameras are on sale. $35 on Amazon. Usually $85
Well I certainly hope so!
@hushed basalt Sounds about right...
Perhaps
Although not many people will have bosses soon ;)
At least ones they're in contact with
A lot of people I know have had their careers evaporate instantly
Good news everyone
My company has told me I am not to report to work on monday ๐
I am told that I am still employed and will be paid the equivlent of 15 hours a week. If something changes so that I can keep doing my training at home. They'll let me know. Other wise I'm just gonna sit around.
This is the best time to uplift skills! So much training material available online these days!
@valid halo the company won't pay full-time like 40 hours a week?
I'm part timer. I'm just happy I'm getting anything at all
I'd rather the jerks stop shutting down the planet and let people work.
Need some social responsibility and common sense for that to work
and less fear mongering
Yea
Less dramatic pandemic graphics
And daily high score updates. It's like an Olympic medal count
woohoo
@dull chasm Paradise PD Season 2 released on NetFlix ๐
who
@last plaza cool but i cancelled netflix ....
@last plaza what's paradise pd?
@tidal bronze watch a few episodes ๐
I am waiting on Tosh.o series
Brickleberry new season coming up.
Anyone a genius on creating a replacement hub for milight. Or alternatively how i can extend the range of the existing hub
@lilac crescent can try asking in #diy-archived
@shy comet thanks for kodi netflix recommendation. ๐
NP!
using kodi to get netfix?
netflix is not atmos on shield?
i know damn amazon prime isnt ...suckers
Well does the fire stick 4k have Atmos if not that's why
They don't want shield to overly beat them.
Hi! New here. Does anyone know how to fix this error when trying to download an episode of the Home Assistant Podcast? Android 5.0.1 here. Thanks!
@low roost #creator-connection is probably more relevant
The #creator-connection channel is giving me "Missing permissions".
Hi, @clear ferry :-) Thanks for replying so quickly!
what do you mean missing permissions? the channel is a discord channel, you should be able to ask in that channel
@clear ferry well have all norwats lost thier minds and begin running around the streets naked in the snow yet?
@forest edge @clear ferry It did let me write text. Maybe images are prohibited in #creator-connection.
@forest edge nah, we just sit at home watching TV with enough food and toilet paper, and state paid wages 
tv huh? watching that 24/7 train through the mountains channel are you? Know your not watching Netflix or anything since your side of the world had it's quality cut down lmao
Paying for streaming, ssssh, we just pirated everything
lol
Reminds me, I should watch Jojo Rabbit
Is gas getting close to a dollar yet @forest edge ?
Phnx said 1.63 the other day
pretty sure it's never gone under a dollar lol
gas prices are all ovver the place depending what area of the country your in
I think it's around 1.80
which is alittle high
but not as high as it has been
our norml is around 1.20ish
It was 2.50 when I was in Georgia
yea coastal states are generally higher
except maybe northern states
heck gas here was above 3 bucks during that one thing and was was higher at other places
can't remember what that was, shortage or bad deal or whatever that gas issue we had several years ago
which comes out about equal to mine with exchange rate lol
oh wait
you said 1 litre.. nm
A 15 minute test has been approved by the FDA, now testing might surge
you au's getting price gouged lol
We are at 13NOK per liter here now
damnit i think my snapshot got stuck lol
That's nearly $8 a gallon
We are at about $2.50 per gallon up here.
3 litre to a gallon i think
3.8ish
ok 4, your getting boned
Well a third of that is tax
a litre is a little bigger than a quart and there are 4 quarts per gallon... So 3.8 sounds about right
Even electric cars are expensive here
We still pay all the stamp duty and import duties on ours
Even a Nissan Leaf is like $60k here
The new one is 287000NOK here
it's like 12nok to every one of our dollars lol
I remember when i was kid and my parents took me to canada and the pizza dude ripped me off cause i didn't know the exchange rate. ended up paying like 20 us bucks for a pizza that should havve only costed me like 11 at the time lol
Lol
Norwegians are pretty good with foreign currency from an early age because we travel to other countries

i'm sure you all rip off tourist too lol
everything i read about tourist and norway makes me think you people have two price charts
one for locals and oen for tourist lol
The one for tourists is cheaper
They want people to stay
So they can drink their blood at night
there is nothing cheap about norway
every video and blog flat out starts talking about that lol
It's reasonable compared to income
course now with all of this
I bet you all lowered prices lol
i'm being downvoted on my cities reddit cause I said it needed more levity amongst the sea of covid-19 posts lol
Prices haven't changed much here for stuff since we have basic income 
Oofph
store brand crap here has increased in price but not name brand stuff
the stupid HY-VEE bread was like 3 bucks a loaf and it's crap bread when normal name brand is generally right around 2 bucks
Here you can see some Norwegian grocery prices
that links info card says don't click in the form of the language "click click click" lol
you know it's bad when people are making fabric face masks and trying to offer them to the hospitals lol
Good morning. I updated to the new Home assistant 0.107 but i noticed that none of my history is working, it is all 0. I read the upgrade docs but i cant spot why it wouldnt work, i spotted history_graph but i use history_stat
@fast notch delete your home-assistant_v2.db file
@forest edge just saw a lady for slapped $35k just for testing,no hospitalisation 
@clear ferry 35k for what? the covid-19 test? they are free
maybe she got slapped cause she wanted to be tested with no signs of being ill
that would be nice
and i wish they go after all the celbs who got tested in the start for that amount too
@forest edge thank you sir
granted they should have tested her in the start but because they did other tests and she was uninsured she got slapped with the bruint of the cost
unfortunately I think a whole lot of people will get that before this is over
I hope this tears our medical system down personally
we get absolutely screwed on every aspect of it and it needs to crash
great if your jobless/homeless cause you just walk out of the hospital paying nothing lol
ah crap I just figured out why my snapshot is taking so long. i had the share folder selected with all my cam videos lmao
wish I could cancel this lol
mostly the neighborhood cat coming into my garage to abuse my kindness of feeding it
one of the downsides of running HA on a pi.. this is taking forever
I am in the process of switching to running HA on my docker server instead of my Pi... had some reliability issues recently.
reliability always falls down to the stupid sdcard and once they actually get the usb boot part released then that aspect goes away
maybe the coronavirus will do us a favor and make the guys at the pi foundation work on getting that out since they will all be stuck working from home lol
It'll be like those stories about a citadel of scientists
Who built technology without interference of governments and politics
Like wolfenstein or that awkward movie with George Clooney and the robot girl
Can't remember the name
Tomorrowland
lol states blaming federal, federal blaming states.. talk about a shit show lol
I'm just at home getting my to-do list scratched off day by day
Mmmmm shitting baseball bats
And vomiting batons
Well, I clearly need to change up my choice of work clothes then ๐คท
Or like a collegue of mine who wasn't very versed in English when she got into a cab at 6am and taxi driver said early morning? and she replied with yes I am a working girl!

lol the 24/7 live your life in fear channel https://youtu.be/vUEjz7QwYas
I actually changed my channel plan to include CNN yesterday
it took over an hour to snapshot my share folder ๐
Gonna fire up my chainsaw for the first time today
Trim the damn hedge
It's too damn tall
Nonono, stay inside!
Yeah, but the splatter distance is high
Noice
I have only used a chainsaw once before, so I'm going to take it piano

But I needed one with all my hedges and trees
See, here we'd just use hedge trimmers for the small bits, and a lopper (branch cutter) for the larger ones
Takes all day that way... and a few ๐บ along the way
Yeah, norwegians most have chainsaws, I've finally grown up

The hedge bits are probably big as a tall aluminium can, so my hedge trimmer can't take it
Chainsaw makes it a lot easier
Pretty spectacular night here at Mawson last night.
That must be this Corona flowing right
Yeah, norwegians most have chainsaws, I've finally grown up
@clear ferry i would say be careful but let's be real a Norwegian made chainsaw at most might give you a mild rug burn. ๐
who's quarantined atm??
Here, but all of ๐ฆ๐น
We're here quite chilled about it. You hear a lot about Jung family's with kids having troubles.
God.. this Neverknowledge
Bruh I extended my Unifi network with a Unifi Switch now
๐ you again - Hope doing well in ๐ฉ๐ช ?
Yeah people acting more stupid tho, specifically while shopping, and the basic things you buy once in a while are all gone but guess you never get to rip that stuff of such a person
There is NO toilet paper around - I mean what theyre doing with it?
TPing houses
Hoarding and thinking apocalypse because of media
I swear I just gonna take it away if I see someone buying loads of it
Wanna see what they can do against me
and in the austrian aldi (Hofer) either eggs nor flour
But in other shops is plenty
Yeah, we went round the local shops earlier in the week, some were stripped bare, while others had things ๐คท
You working in IT.. I dont guess that you are this muscular ๐
No, I'm not at all. I'm some fat 2m bastard. But I never fight with hands and have load outs of stuff in car and floor cupboard
You never meet me without "tools"
Cat6-o-tails
Always preperared, I like this
Don't forget to do your lawyer a favor and ship a glove and ball with the baseball bat
Those are my bed tools...
everything can be a dildo - ok ๐
Deam - thinking of reimaging my server..
If I would only took the to set up docker volumes that would be easyer
Oh my.. That was painless
Thx
I just realized this years Halloween is going to be annoying. either won't be any kids or every kid is going to be wearing some kind of virus theme outfit
What are you this year? Oh Corona for you too?
Wtf is going on - I sit here, trying to install Debian on my server and I can't get it to boot 
Does anyone have more info on what happened with the groups breaking change? im trying to fix it but no idea what broke
The changelog isnt clearing it up for me
Awwww yeah, quarantine fun
Chainsaw go VROOM
his actually goes like this. https://youtu.be/v7zVsoCPE-w
Hi, guys! This is kids Chainsaw Stihl. Really cool toy for kids.
Thanks ะฐ lot for watching our channel! Subscribe to our channel.
Installing Debian desktop on my old laptop to use as a desktop
That way I'll have a true Linux environment and I'll still use my Chromebook with Linux VM when not using the desktop
Does anyone know if the solder that comes with the ts-100 has flux core? I'm trying to watch videos and find out what else I need before I start going to town on things.
@rain swift prob not, usually when they bundle stuff like that it's super cheap
if you melt some onto like towel or paper and it leaves a greasy or sticky spot then it has a flux core, if not then nope
@rain swift The TS-100 didn't come with lead, I had to order it with flux core and flux
I updated firmware as soon as I got it... took like 2 seconds to do it.
Didn't give so
Which firmware should I put on it?
I think it's just a matter of copying a file to it?
yup - download the file and drag, drop into the drive (usb)
download the .hex file, and copy it onto the drive, it will automatically restart and changes the file name extension to .RDY. that's all.
It won't load as a USB drive in Linux?
not sure - I tried did it on windows.
Ah yeah
Question, I saw some tip tinning stuff on Amazon, is that useful or just use the solder to tin it when you're done?
the TS-100 came with it
follow the chat there... you will get an idea on what I've been through
mine just came with a little tube of solder, grounding clamp thing, power bring, battery hookup wire
I don't see a .hex file on this github lol
yeah looks like your package was a little different
nm found the hex file
let's hax this thing lol
.rtfm @rain swift
@rain swift RTFM is a well known phrase, used when someone hasn't taken time to read the documentation. Please take time to Read The $%#@ Manual - author unknown.
lol - look for releases link in there
yup - the package I got is different... did you get the battery pack too? I don't have that
I missed the link at first
nope
its pretty basic, fine with me
I can pick the other stuff i want
crazy how small it is
yup
there's no room to fit any usb cables I have into it lol wtf
may have to rip one up to get it to fit
you don't need to connect both power and usb at the same time
just the USB is good enough
I was told to use both, but then it worked with just the USB for me. apparently the older versions require both power and usb
the manual for mine says to
lol
but no it shouldn't need to thats dumb its loading up like a flash drive
loaded right up in linux, score
its complaining about not enough space
its only 2meg? lame
got it
it loads 2 different things apparently
ah... I never ran into that error - like I said, it took like 2 seconds for me
yeah, so I loaded it, unplugged it, then brought it back up holding the button down and the rdy file is gone, I wonder if that means it undid itself, how do you verify you're running the firmware?
the RDY file should be there...
irrespective it should work if you plug that thing in
yeah
its doing auto screen rotation and all so I think i'm good
I never turned it on to see what the stock firmware looked like
have you used it yet? what temp do you usually run on.
I did. I used at 400 degrees, and it heated up instantly
score
what are you using to hold the brass brillo type stuff for the tip, do they sell one that is weighted, saw complaints about some of them being too light and sliding around the table
I have those already at home
so far I have this stuff. https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/CJUHTG742T3I?ref_=wl_share
does that all look good, am I missing anything
I like your survival list there ๐
bigfoot camera? ๐ you should have LifeStraw in there
I have 2 Sawyer minis. :)
But the priority now is soldering lol
I do need a camera outside the front door, I rent, so kinda limited, have a power outlet, dunno if I like cams that only turn on with motion
yes, they do. they run on batteries, and only start to capture images when there is a PIR motion
What stay at home? Business as usual?
we went to grocery store yesterday, everything is fully stocked and normal
I expected the freeways to be almost empty
don't worry, you haven't escaped the Purge just yet lol
Lol
Thinking of playing The Purge track through the truck PA system tonight around 11๐
Drive around for like 15 minutes while playing that
lol
Did anybody else lose limbs?
That is irrelevant
I'm really curious about total numbers of tested in the US vs positive ones, I just saw the UK actually posted how many tests they had done
72k tests with 5k positives is high, but not as high as I thought
Had a colleague on a conference call mention his state only had 69 positive, but if that is of 100 tested 
Of course, it's all about your sample
If you're testing those most likely to have it based on symptoms, vs random, vs something else
Indeed, tbh the test should be mandatory with all the tests they have developed now it shouldn't be hard to implement
0.44 calibre vaccine required then ๐
hahahha, sure, I'm ready lol
should have everything I need to start soldering next week.
wondering if a flux pen is worth it. I ordered 60/40 flux core .6 solder, and a tin of rosin flux
@rain swift you better buy all the survival stuff right away ๐คฃ
That's a few things I was thinking about, I've got plenty of stuff already, all the way down to faro rods to start fires lol
I'm good.
Invested in plenty of lead and brass
I am looking for ideas for my next project. Not sure what to do. 3D printer idea is on the back burner for now.
I'll get a 3D printer at some point, I need to be able to make enclosures for stuff I build.
Not sure what I wanna do next besides learn to solder, and I can't imagine that will even be hard.
Doing some garden work today. Got some new Rose trees
Next up planting some veggies. ๐
No yard work to do in the condo complex
I haven't tried to look into audio stuff for the TV in a while, are there systems now with surround sound where the speakers are wireless for the signal?
@tidal bronze why do you need veggies? You canโt grow meat? ๐
Veggies are what my dinner eats.
@last plaza I don't mind a few tomatoes and cucumbers
Can any one help me set up my konnected panel on homeassistant
@upper orbit you might want to try #integrations-archived
@tidal bronze I planted a ton of stuff last week
white onions, garlic, asparagus (not holding out much hope on this), and some roma tomatoes
Such a good idea converting my old windows laptop into a Debian "desktop" with my 22" display
It was collecting dust and I didn't have a good spot for it to use it for home assistant
Australians are idiots
This one person I know has gone to work sick with all the covid symptoms even though her work would let her work from home, and has been seeing people and going out to pubs
@hushed basalt we have the same at my work.
oh, and hi o/
This week i had 3 days to prepare for 25 users to work from home. It's nearly impossible to get webcam's and Wi-Fi dongles in the UK at the moment
It's those idiots that are going to get everything locked down if the rates down level out
I'm guessing most of these users don't have laptops?
Day 2 and already having issues with sharing ๐
Someone is alpha
i'm permanent WFH, was an easy transition for me. My wife though, that's been interesting
she's a public school teacher and no one is really sure how to handle that right now
Do they do any remote school @wet pilot ?
I'm Norway it is about 50/50 who have ever done that before, most universities and colleges do remote training all the time, primary / secondary mostly only do it for foreign language students / immigrants
My wife's university records every class and puts it online, and my college did that from 2002 onwards
they're trying to figure that part out. seems like they want to but they've already canceled the annual standardized testing
Oh, all colleges and universities here are doing home exams atleast it seems
Not sure about lower education
Saw Microsoft offered free teams servers for schools that didn't have it across the world
State just closed our borders
But what about Home and Away?

Btw do Americans / Australians use cheese cutters? https://images.app.goo.gl/AZUgStcxAyBrcSJZA
I brought some to new Zealand 25 years ago, they had never seen one before
No
Cheese isn't really a big thing in Straya though
Like everyone just buys small portions at a supermarket
Can't use a cheese wheel as bond for a house like you euros
And most people just struggle with using a knife
Norwegians eat cheese atleast once a day mostly
Dairy free 
No milk, no cheese, no brioche, no crossaints, no white sauce, no milk chocolate
Sneak over to the neighbor to eat milk !
95% of the people who get it are minor, they need to just let people go back to normal, people at risk can stay home, the rest of us can carry on with our lives.
Anyone aware of a folding@home sensor for home assistant? ๐
@midnight adder for monitoring what? They might have public APIs you can use via rest perhaps
good idea @clear ferry ! It seems to be possible to get json info from https://stats.foldingathome.org/api/donor/jcoffland
Home office - https://i.imgur.com/oVMBg6B.gifv
That looks staged
@rain swift tell that to Italy
why would the cam not be centered lol

@frenck FYI is my Samsung TV working with 107.5 with the official one, I have had same problem as you until now ๐
Makes sense since .5 introduced a fix for the port issue 
welp going to try to go from 106.6 to 107.5 lol



