#the-water-cooler
scenic radish
tough igloo
I want to set up a user at work named Boffa d’eeznutts so management will use the name is the new staff welcome email
scenic radish
doit
green inlet
28 years later and my wife is still with me....pretty regularly, I walk into the bathroom totally naked, while she is doing her make-up, and do some crazy dance. Other days, she tells me to f-off and I moon her. Good women are hard to find.
scenic radish
that...is an image i didn't need
green inlet
Nobody does, but I am hung like a bear cub
green inlet
She just rolls her eyes and keeps on doing what she is doing
scenic radish
love it
green inlet
And I am going to use that boofa line sometime next week
scenic radish
60% of the time it works, every time
tidal bronze
@green inlet you good ?😄
forest edge
I think he suspects the mailman might be hiding in the shower
tidal bronze
Oh.
green inlet
Me? Totally 🤣
tidal bronze
Esxi good ?
tidal bronze
Ha should be running now. Few minutes is all that it takes
green inlet
I just learned the difference between bare metal and hypervisor
I google stuff said in here all the time
Waiting for another stick of memory and possible the HA zwave update
tidal bronze
Nuc what gen?
tidal bronze
Everything but temp
green inlet
Hmmm....I can’t get anything.
tidal bronze
You have to enable snmp
tidal bronze
Ha is meh when it comes to infrastructure monitoring
Got to jump through million Hoops to get something simple done
tidal bronze
Awesome. Use that too. But a fan of zabbix
green inlet
Auh, ok, yes, now that rings a bell.
tidal bronze
Everything going to Slack
Run the vmware template give it a few minutes and you are golden. 😀
green inlet
I hit create vm and saw the wizard. All my raspis are static and several systems built around their IP. Can I get a vm up on one ip and change it later once I take down what the vm replaces?
tidal bronze
Of course.
You dan do that all day.
Spin up 15 copies of HA as well. Lol
The i7 can take a beating. You will love it
green inlet
Several scenarios have gone through my head. Pretty easy to run, production, beta, and dev vms right. All off the same zwave stick
tidal bronze
Hmm no, usb assigned to VM cant be shared
You can so a VM with serial to sock or serial to TCP. Plenty of guides.
Or run HA remote so you can share the stick with multiple VMs
green inlet
Ok, I will figure it out. Just got rid of a couple of the setup errors. Next is sensors, ssh keys, possible nagios on the host?
hushed basalt
Wooh
Got my name resolution working
And I now officially have a 3 node cluster
Only took six months
forest edge
lol
tidal bronze
Lmao
forest edge
you pc's guuud
hushed basalt
I wish I had a disposable OS infrastructure though
I don't like how these nodes have become pets
green inlet
@tidal bronze , I have nagios on a ODroid
tidal bronze
Oh perfect.
green inlet
Funny you ask, I need to look into a new NAS setup and DD-WRT changed something up and jacked up my NAS
tidal bronze
I have a separate synology for all that kind of stuff. Best thing is they have vmware support. Active business backup grabs and snapshots anything on esxi. Plus you can spin up backups on syno itself with VM machine. The best pair ever.
hushed basalt
I have a love hate relationship with my syno
tidal bronze
I have no idea how they offer it for free. But simply fantastic.
Puts veem to shame
hushed basalt
But when I move everything to my k8s cluster it will just become a simple storage appliance, which should ease some of that pain
tidal bronze
I run 3 synology units at home and 2 remote replication units.
green inlet
Yea, I have three 4 disk Synology boxes at work that have been powered off for prob 6 months.
green inlet
I always figure something out 🤣
tidal bronze
Replication is critical for me because of earthquakes 🤣
@forest edge guess if I for your underground brew-ha-ha can cutdown on that.
forest edge
hey if you go underground and stabilize it with springs and place a dry moat around it you'll be safer than everyone else
tidal bronze
So you're saying that earthquakes are starting up in the sky
forest edge
no no thats how they quake proof buildings, the use of them being supported on springs
tidal bronze
That's how we have it
forest edge
yea but your still open to fire
tidal bronze
I can never win with you oh well
forest edge
lol
telling you, you do, start the trend all your bneighbors will too
can't quite figure out why a chinese company would use a brazilian ntp server for time correcting lol
tidal bronze
They handle their waxes 🤔
green inlet
My first quake in San Diego blew my mind. We woke up to the chandelier above our bed swinging from side to side. My wife was like, wtf is going on. I was like, I think an earthquake
shy comet
the last earthquake we had in cali was a very long one...45 seconds IIRC and i was a couple hundred miles away
last summer actually
green inlet
Over on the right coast we deal with tornados. Much scarier to me. And sink holes.
tidal bronze
@shy comet last night ?
shy comet
@tidal bronze naw this was the one that was in central cali
tidal bronze
Oh
hushed basalt
We don't have any of that
For where I live, getting your hardware stolen is orders of magnitude more likely than a natural disastee
Then house fire would be the second
Then natural disasters would be wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy down the list of probabilities
forest edge
you would think by now you cali's would enjoy earthquakes while in bed https://media0.giphy.com/media/3o7aTsOkszW1IAV1QI/giphy.gif
tidal bronze
@hushed basalt stolen ?
@forest edge I want that bed.
What a stressful day, still at the vet since 4AM.
forest edge
oh no, got a pet thats sick?
tidal bronze
Yes just went into emergency surgery
forest edge
I been dealing with sick pets since thanksgivving one after another. been a shit winter
tidal bronze
I am sorry to hear that. Been like 2 weeks for me
tidal bronze
1.5hr surgery and 2 surgeons. Keeping my fingers crossed. Dog.
forest edge
schnazer or however thats spelled
tidal bronze
Giant schnauzer yes.
forest edge
those are good dogs
tidal bronze
Yes indeed. My best buddy.
forest edge
I hope everything goes good
tidal bronze
Thank you man. I wouldn't know what to do if something goes wrong.
forest edge
we spent 9k on surgery for our cat from thanksgiving to Christmas, had a cancer mass in his colon and it was insane
tidal bronze
9k bill just today.
forest edge
thankfully he came out alright, even grumpier than before it all happened but holy hell was that expensive
tidal bronze
It's insane.
forest edge
if vets are gonna start charging human prices i think our insurances should start covering our pets as well lol
tidal bronze
I agree 100%
I think they pick randomly from drop downs. Had to go back and forth today. Had a line item for call in tech. I am like wtf?
forest edge
this an emergency hospital through a school or normal pet hospital?
tidal bronze
24 hospital, needs a board certified surgeon for this procedure
forest edge
we ended up taking our cat to MU which is 2 hours from where I live because they said the overall cost would be cheaper (what a lie that was) it was crazy dealing with the students and then with the senior actual surgeon
tidal bronze
I dealt with 3 vet hospitals in a week. Internal medicine is not everywhere.
There's ultrasound and then formal ultrasound wth
forest edge
not heard of formal version of that
tidal bronze
Exactly.
Supposedly an internist can read ultrasound better than a DR.
All sounds crap to me. Then again at times like this seems like one gotta take it up the shorts.
forest edge
all crap imo, test after expensive test that seem to yield nothing new than you already know then in the end they still tell you it's a crap shoot
and nothing you can do, it's not like we're not going to do whatever we can to get our pets back
tidal bronze
9 years ago he hot misdiagnosed at the ER, I took him home went through his entire body to find an insect bite. ER said constipation after scan. From that onwards I am skeptic. Did a charge back almost went to courts till they apologized.
hushed basalt
@tidal bronze in terms of data loss
tidal bronze
Got them to pay the next vets bill as well.
forest edge
many won't do that and they bank on that
good thing your diligent about it. i think if more were than they wouldn't be so quick to do and suggest stupid shit
tidal bronze
I raised hell like no tomorrow. Even today consulted 2 more surgeons before saying ok.
forest edge
well I need a break from that shit, spending a fortune on one and losing another I need a summer vet free lol
wet pilot
i guess everyone hates writing unit tests: https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/02/boeing-acknowledges-gaps-in-its-starliner-software-testing/
forest edge
I wouldn't want to be a software person for something like NASA or airplanes. my grandfather was an aviation engineer for TWA and the stories he would tell would just be too much stress for me lol
wet pilot
yeah, that would definitely be high pressure
my team's goal for line coverage is 80%. I don't think that would fly (pun intended) for this
forest edge
lol EU thinks it's gonna be able to force apple to change their iphones to have removable batteries?
last dirge
you mean like they have for every single other consumer device?
you can't sell a device without a removable battery in the EU due to recycling laws
Amazon even redesigned their dash/IoT buttons so they could sell them there
1st gen had a soldered battery, 2nd gen had a removeable one
clear ferry
Contrary to muurica belief, the EU is a big market 💩
forest edge
a big shit market?
scenic radish
A big market shit apparently
forest edge
oh someone made a coronavirus tracker, maybe we should make it a FORBIDDEN_TOPIC addon lol
get notifications everytime a new report comes in or the totals rise
have it flicker all the lights in your home if a report in your county shows up lmao
tidal bronze
@forest edge yep that's the only thing missing now.
forest edge
I have no doubt some would use it lol
tidal bronze
Even though very interesting at first, years ago, 99% of notification stuff is removed on mine now. Gets old quick. Even once in a blue moon TTS feels like too much. Lol.
clear ferry
I use notifications mostly to remind me to do stuff
Like close the garage door and take out the recyclables
tidal bronze
Hmm automated. I don't have trash issues. Cleaners do that clock work.
clear ferry
No automated garage doors with babies in the house, and definitely not going to pay someone to take out my trash 
tidal bronze
Use IR and motion combo. Pretty sure your Norwegian garages have pressure sensors as a precautionary measure. I wish I had the time to clean the place. They are here every week. Obviously no one would pay someone to take out trash only. Unless that's a thing in Norway 😂
forest edge
would be too worried of shit coming up missing to allow someone to clean my home lol
clear ferry
Yeah, the only people who have cleaners in Norway is the actual upper class or people who think they are but in reality only have so much credit card debt they are on the verge of bankruptcy
tidal bronze
It's been like this for last 15 years or more. Never had an issue.
Its pretty common in LA.
clear ferry
And I don't think I have ever seen a garage door with a pressure sensor , it should be standard though
tidal bronze
That's nuts. Not having pressure sensors.
clear ferry
Never seen one stop, except the industrial ones
tidal bronze
Lmao.
forest edge
lol norway tech for ya
tidal bronze
It's illegal to install one without here.
forest edge
20 years still behind on some shit apparently
tidal bronze
Basic stuff at that.
This is why they go bankrupt not because of cleaning the house. Lmao.
clear ferry
Think mine has a built-in breakage though, because the cogwheels are so small they would break if there was sufficient resistance 💩
forest edge
can't be
tidal bronze
@forest edge taking missing shit, believe it or not if I misplace something I call them to find out where I left my shit.
forest edge
unless it's ebayed older lol
clear ferry
Craftsman something
forest edge
@tidal bronze the cleaning crew?
tidal bronze
Yep.
tidal bronze
Like family
tidal bronze
Si
clear ferry
💩
forest edge
"yes, I seem to have lost mt stool sample, could you please locate it for me?"
clear ferry
in the fridge senõr
tidal bronze
@clear ferry remember i told you we don't come up with everything, BUT everything that matters in YOUR LIFE😜
forest edge
@clear ferry our garage doors have had pressure sensors aas well as trip sensors since the 80's so whatever you have either predates that or is some knockoff lol
clear ferry
Early 90s model craftsman 
forest edge
sure it's called craftsman and not crapsman?
clear ferry
Mmmm -11c outside
tidal bronze
You should seriously consider installing one because of your little one, jokes aside.
clear ferry
I should replace it because it is noisy and shuddy as hell, poor American craftsmanship 
So a new one would probably have it
tidal bronze
Do yours have a speed ramp at stops ?
clear ferry
Woot
tidal bronze
If pressure sensor is there it ramps the speed down to a crawling stop. Same for upper stop. Mine does not slam.
Not supposed to
clear ferry
Mine has two wheels I turn to specify where top and bottom is, then a rolling pin guides a metal pin back an forth and creates a short to stop it at either end
A very simple design
tidal bronze
Oh reed contacts. That's really really old.
clear ferry
Yeah, same on all liftmaster, craftsman, Chamberlain from the 80s to early 2000s I believe
forest edge
atx all bashing something that actually belongs in a museum
tidal bronze
I should replace it because it is noisy and shuddy as hell, poor American craftsmanship
@clear ferry poor craftsmanship? Shit is running like butter for the last 63 years right? Why complain?
clear ferry
I have replaced the cogwheels twice the last 10 years because they get worn out 💩
And butter is a strong word
tidal bronze
Cost of opening and closing
clear ferry
It's like a run over cat trying to dance flamenco when opening
tidal bronze
This is what happens when you remove ADSL all at once and install fiber. They forget the garage doors 😜
forest edge
honestly i think the newer garage door openers are crap
clear ferry
Norwegians are just cheap skates, we seldom replace something that isn't completely broken
tidal bronze
I agree.
forest edge
don't ever buy a rubber belt driven garage door opener
forest edge
the coil ones are good, although way more fo a pain for a single homeowner to maintence/replace but still reliable
I predate when shit went to crap
in my day when you wanted wooden furniture people still actually made it, not machines in a factory lol
clear ferry
Oh, you are a supercentential, I see
forest edge
@clear ferry you wouldn't know what to do with yourself if you had my childhood.. no computers, no internet, no cellphones
tidal bronze
These are the ones I have. Super silent.
forest edge
is that a vritical garage door opener?
tidal bronze
Yes.
clear ferry
Pff we didn't have internet in Norway until I was like 8
forest edge
it installs next to the door?
tidal bronze
Yes
forest edge
I'd have to see it in action but the thought of taking away the above arm and motor sounds nice
clear ferry
Interesting, that looked easy to install
tidal bronze
Comes with battery backup as well.
clear ferry
But no go for my door, would need to buy a new door, don't think I've ever seen that torsion based top in Norway, we have chain driven ones only in residential
Afaik
tidal bronze
Chain is pretty common here as well. Had them in my other 2 houses.
forest edge
hmm that opener only uses the guide wires to open and close it
that means if those cables broke that door would come down like a rock
tidal bronze
No if the spring broke.
tidal bronze
Spring usually breaks at opening pretty rare.
forest edge
on traditional doors the motor and arm above would still hold the door when those wires break
I didn't see anything mentioned, but maybe there is an additional saftey thing in place?
tidal bronze
Don't need the wires. The doors are so well balanced on the spring you can open close with finger.
That's how the pressure sensor works.
tidal bronze
That's the tension retainer.
steel urchin
Retainer tensioner
tidal bronze
Stand corrected.
steel urchin
🤣 jk I'm just having a silly night
forest edge
I call them guide wires, but call them whatever
but they are what connect the spring to the door, they also used on tradtional doors for the horizobntal springs
steel urchin
And yes @forest edge my doorbell is working fine
forest edge
lol 2 days later he answers
steel urchin
Oh did you ask?
tidal bronze
@forest edge yep they are wooden doors.
clear ferry
forest edge
@tidal bronze next time your around them look for something else that connects to the door that would prevent it from slamming down in the case of those wires snapping. I would imagine they would have came up with something
steel urchin
Between the stock market and housing, I'm a mess lol
clear ferry
Stocks 
tidal bronze
@forest edge will do but what I read is that strain on upward movement is what snaps it at end of life ot deformity
tidal bronze
I do understand the reasoning there but of well that's what lawyers are for.
forest edge
its rarer then say traditional doors
tidal bronze
Agreed.
forest edge
although my door is old so my guide/tension wires are pretty small lol, yours is probably thick
tidal bronze
That's what she said but I will double check 😜
forest edge
I haven't heard too many cases of the wires snapping, but they do, atleast my old ass one sizes ones do
@steel urchin lose all your monnies to the stock market?
steel urchin
A lil bit, but not the end of the world. Plus while it's all down you gotta toss a bit in here n there
tidal bronze
Now you made me curious since one of the garage doors is our main in/out of the house so opens and closes so many times a day. Will check tomorrow. @forest edge
forest edge
lol didn't mean to worry you but if there is no secondary catch to prevent the door from slamming i would sure look into one
steel urchin
I've had springs go out on 4 garage doors, one went through 3 windows
forest edge
side benifit of a tradiional garage door opener, the motor and arm become that secondary catch
@steel urchin thats why you install security wire through the springs to prevent the pieces from flying away
tidal bronze
Broke 1 spring on 1 of the doors few months back. Just heard it pop. That's it. But going throw windows ?
steel urchin
Heh it did though
forest edge
hes talking about horizontal traditional springs
tidal bronze
Oh.
steel urchin
I just remember waking you and 3 windows were gone, and lots of little bits of spring
forest edge
I have a 3/8's braided metal wire ran through the middle of mine and tied off on both ends, nothing is going anywhere when they break lol
steel urchin
It sucked, that's for sure
forest edge
could have been worse, someone could have gotten hurt
forest edge
you use the myq thing?
forest edge
yea that video showed nothing additional for the wire either. it's likely something you shouldn't really need to worry about especially the only danger comes into play while the door is open
tidal bronze
I will find out one way or the other
forest edge
not een sure what you could even use as a secondary catch, rigging a static line isn't going to slow it down or anything lol
tidal bronze
I can ask my buddy to come over run some tests. My dogs hang around there, don't care much about people. 😜
forest edge
if the braided line is thicker than 1/8th then i wouldn't worry about it at all
tidal bronze
Of course
forest edge
it's not a literal 1/8th but mine is close to that
but then my wires don't support the door, the arm does
tidal bronze
The spring supports the door.
forest edge
yea on yours
traditional doors work by an equal balance
all the springs do is "lighten" the load
tidal bronze
Copy.
tidal bronze
No, you mean the side latch. ?
forest edge
yea one of the vvideos showed it, can be manually turned but also is automatic locking when door is close,d looked like a huge deadbolt
tidal bronze
Oh. That's cool. Dont lock anything at my place though. 😄
forest edge
have you ever tried lifting your door while it's closed?
tidal bronze
No chance.
forest edge
no handles?
tidal bronze
Nopes
forest edge
mine has inside handle
tidal bronze
If disengage can lift with a finger. So I think that's why no handle.
forest edge
ah
was curious what the resistance was with the motor being on the side and only using the wires
tidal bronze
Its featherweight. But if slightly off balance and the unit complaints.
tidal bronze
Yes
I think there is very little torque on those motors. Everything is based on balance.
forest edge
thats why the wood creaks lol
you should try lifting it from the outside using pressure (obvviously don't break anything) but get a sense just how secure that motor makes the door from potential intruders
one of my barns has a 20ft high by 14ft wide garage door with a coil spring and a simple push lock on one side, if I was to "rock" the door up and down by momentum alone I could snap the side lock and raise the door. it dosen't have an outside handle either
if there was anything in there i would certianly look for a diffrent means of locking it lol
tidal bronze
I will check it. All that's valuable to me is there in the garage. But its gated, patrolled. Dont lock anything to be honest. To see someone outside even a neighbor is every rare thing. Amazon stuff is outside the front door for days sometimes. No one goes that way. 😀 Theft does not even cross my mind. But as always, you can never say never. Dont even have a door bell lol.
tidal bronze
Yes.
forest edge
ah
yea you'll likely never have to worry about it.. but then if you watch movies you will know even you people will get random acts of violence lol jk
tidal bronze
Trust me there's always that possibilty. I always believe no matter what you have a 2x4 can supersede that anyday.
forest edge
lol
yea theres no way to completely stop someone, hell they couldn't even on the movie the purge and those homes locked up like tanks lol
tidal bronze
Yes exactly. I always take security with a grain salt. If someone wants it bad enough they will take it. That's what insurance is for. As long no bodily harm is done they can take anything they want.
forest edge
and everything of value is the garage you say? ... lmao
tidal bronze
Yes.
forest edge
yup right on que, atx chiming in while putting on his brown cheese face mask
clear ferry
I don't think I know anyone who has had a break in ever 
tidal bronze
Neither do I
tidal bronze
I obviously dont count the the dumb friends that leave an iPad in an unlocked car in LA
forest edge
lol
clear ferry
A druggy stole the cd player out of my car once, but that was my fault for not locking the car
tidal bronze
Those are normal.
forest edge
I bet if you left a ham sandwhich they would have taken that instead
tidal bronze
Druggies kids those are not break ins. That's just life, at least to me.
Planned theft that's another thing.
forest edge
I'd rather have a break in than a squatter tho
my biggest fear with my farm
squatters are such a pain to remove
hushed basalt
Man kubernetes control planes are such a 200 pound gorilla
You'd have to have a very very good reason for maintaining one of these yourself in enterprise
tidal bronze
I hear you. Near my warehouse now there's many homeless plus meth users. There's a guy in a RV cooking meth. Epic. When we test fly drones the guy comes running asking hey you guys filming me or what ?
forest edge
lol
hushed basalt
@clear ferry my wife left the car unlocked in the street overnight once
Junky stole loose change out of the ashtray
Left the ipod touch in the glovebox
Not even junkies want Apple 🍎
forest edge
hmm swarming homeless with a bunch of drones for a youtube video 🤔
tidal bronze
I play nice with them, you gotta learn to live with the times. SWAT/LAPD is pretty usual at my place for training, they ask me do want these guys removed. I dont bother. Told the cook, as long as you keep your customers away from my stuff we can coexist. Things been good. Hope it stays that way.
forest edge
@hushed basalt whats a roo gonna do with an ipod touch? the change was for a vending machine
@tidal bronze thats ballsy, I mean I assume everything is locked down with alarms and all but hoping meth heads will retian some kind of mutual agreement is asking for a lot lol
tidal bronze
Not the meatheads, cook lol. He is clean like an arrow.
tidal bronze
Yep.
Even if I get lapd to pull them its 3 days jail time.
Then I have a problem.
They don't even cross my property. 😜
forest edge
this warehouse must be in some remote location
tidal bronze
Nopes.
forest edge
how do they not get busted just by casual busting? lol
tidal bronze
LA has changed in the past 2 years.
The cook is a smart cat dude moves all over hence the RV.
forest edge
oh you made it sound as if they setup a 24/7 shop there lol
tidal bronze
I am next to LA river and we have/ or used to have a badass bike path for miles along the river. Now all that is homeless and cooks.
forest edge
lol
well you got the 80's and 90's california songs and commercials to blame for that
tidal bronze
I feel bad for the real homeless doesn't bother me that they are all over. I got a problem with the green fucknuts that lives in a tent because of carbon footprint
forest edge
lol reminds me that my cousin even fell for that whole California thing back when california meant blondes, beach and sun and easy living. he went out there and came back saying the girls were accurate, the sun was accurate, but the livving was total bs lol
tidal bronze
Yes most dont make it more than 18 months. That's the rule of thumb they say.
Working partly in the movie industry, the amount of lost dreams us unreal. The stories. Pretty sad at times. But hey when you make it, you make it.
forest edge
yea crazy jhow many people put everything into hoping they will come out richer and end up poorer
tidal bronze
Yes although entertainment is a weird thing. When and if you hit it, just nuts.
forest edge
and these days it dosen't always last that long either. not like it use to
tidal bronze
Yep
forest edge
over saturation of everyone wanting to be the next big thing
tidal bronze
Not only entertainment, everybody that wants to fly a drone is also here. Epic! Most posting ads on CL for $50 real estate shoot. I am lost for words sometimes.
forest edge
you mean 50 bucks to film there property? confused what you mean
forest edge
drones are becoming "a thing" everywhere. our reddit constantly has people asking good spot to launch drones for filing areas around the city etc
although i will say the last year or so hasn't been quite as bad as before that
and thankfully my house hasn't been swarmed yet by any
tidal bronze
They come here hoping to do cinema which pays 14k/day on pro shoots. But that's for a very elite few.
forest edge
oh i see what your saying, drone operators for hire
tidal bronze
Yep.
forest edge
is there alot of drones in the air there on average?
tidal bronze
Yep in LA
forest edge
so it looks like a sci film with drones flying everywhere? lol
tidal bronze
But you cant really fly at noteworthy places without permit.
forest edge
if my air space started getting cluttered with random drones flying everywhere my first purchase would be one of those long range aimable jamming guns
forest edge
thats why I would use a jamming gun, can't trace that lol
for all the op knows, the battery died or something lol
tidal bronze
You can surely sue the guy for trespassing but dropping the drone is another issue.
forest edge
shit would look like a modern day duck hunt complete with giggling dog if i could find one of those as well
forest edge
alright man, hope all is well with your pup
forest edge
cool
tidal bronze
Night
forest edge
\o
boreal pewter
Seems legit
brisk glen
@dusk lodge well... you better not go shopping then at all
everything is made in china
orchid rose
it moved from animals to humans, so who's to say it can't move to microchips
boreal pewter
Isn't there the special "with virus" version?
dusk lodge
fair enough
molten needle
Is this recommended for a Plex Media server? https://smile.amazon.com/Synology-bay-DiskStation-DS418-Diskless/dp/B075N17DM6/
Or would it have trouble encoding (local only, maybe 2-3 streams at once, very rare for 3)
dull chasm
I got this one and it does fine https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075N1Z9LT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
orchid rose
ye there was suspicion of it moving to a pet
not sure if it has been confirmed or not
last plaza
F*** - just missed a deal on Synology NAS!
tidal bronze
@last plaza B&H
tidal bronze
Oh 1019+ was on sale
tidal bronze
Call them
last plaza
Price comes down after applying promo code. They are closed. Shabbat break 🤓
tidal bronze
You will really like active business backup.
last plaza
@light trout good for you!
Yep. Last time also I missed it. I added and paid, but got an email saying it is in back order.
@tidal bronze how is your dog doing?
tidal bronze
Thanks for asking he is up waiting for Dr to come hopefully can bring home. I am messed up in the head 🙄
clever mortar
😂
last plaza
They got the best writers!
clever mortar
It'd have been more accurate to pick on any of our political "leadership" - our Queen is a scary person 😄
clever mortar
Congratulate it on being a teenager
last plaza
@tidal bronze I see about 40+ second delay with chromecast streaming since the last update to H.264+ and VBR. It used to be about 5 seconds.
tidal bronze
Yikes. Adds delay because of codec, I notice in my players as well. 264+/265 relatively new. 😦
last plaza
yup - I am going to switch it back to plain old 264 - I got plenty of disk space to sacrifice
tidal bronze
@last plaza do you have enough resources for that docker container? Rather VM running docker container 😄
last plaza
yes - plenty of resources on the hardware - resources are hardly used
brisk glen
Only those chrome cast ultras can handle it
last plaza
hmm... I should check the command
tidal bronze
Default profile is surely for 264 so let me know what you find out
last plaza
I'm gonna clone that repo, make changes and runt it locally
default is 264 for sure, I am trying to see if I can pass parameters to the ffmpeg command to use ultrafast
orchid rose
what sort of bitrates does Plex stream out btw?
tidal bronze
4 to 20 mbps most, UHD 80+
dull chasm
yea try to stream a 80mb stream for 4k and atmos and it sucks
i just wished amazon prime would do atmos with nvidia shiled ....so far its a no go
tidal bronze
That's why you need plex 🙂
dull chasm
i got plex
tidal bronze
What's wrong with UHD stream?
dull chasm
so i need to connect amazon thru plex?
right now i am just using the nviadia amazon app
tidal bronze
Amazon/Netflix is not usual UHD and it sucks. But your UHD content on plex should be rocking UHD + ATMOS
dull chasm
yea plex does no problem
tidal bronze
It will be some time or if that.... netflix/amazon uses proprietary codecs for transmission with an aveage top cap @ 15mbps
They have to support average internet connection
last plaza
@tidal bronze still about 30 second delay with the -preset ultrafast setting. I cloned the streamer repo locally, built the docker image and ran it with 4 streams
tidal bronze
That's a bummer.
last plaza
somehow I think the latency is introduced with the camera encoding set to h.264+. I think by resetting that to h264 should speed things up
dull chasm
@tidal bronze no shit its getting to where you have to buy or download to get atmos .....
dull chasm
man the more i push and break in these Klipsch the better they sound
last plaza
I have a media drive connected directly to TV - all the videos are played at the highest encoding available 😉
plex server slowing things down on my NAS - takes up too much CPU for encoding per se
tidal bronze
That's the best way
light trout
360p 🎉
shy comet
lol
last plaza
ewww!
tidal bronze
@last plaza no HW encoding?
last plaza
360p is like VCD quality 😛
tidal bronze
Should not tax the CPU if setup right
light trout
IRS does not agree
dull chasm
@last plaza my snology doest even breath hard to play a plex stream at 4k with atmos
tidal bronze
VCD damn man you bring back memories @last plaza .
last plaza
@tidal bronze HW encoding is enabled by default, My NAS is overloaded
tidal bronze
Intel?
last plaza
@dull chasm I even removed plex from my NAS and moved all the media to a separate drive to free up space, and no network latency and encoding issues - play it straight
tidal bronze
Direct play / direct stream?
shy comet
any good new UHD blurays out?
dull chasm
i play it straight no bi stuff 🤣
shy comet
havent seen any in a whiile
tidal bronze
@shy comet lol
last plaza
I use DLNA actually
dull chasm
^^^^ shame
shy comet
ever since i got fiber....most of my streams are DP now
tidal bronze
@last plaza that's your issue. Should be direct stream or direct play
clear ferry
360p, you are so modern ludeeus
last plaza
I had it connected to TV, but now attached it to a router with built in DLNA to be able to play on multiple TVs
dull chasm
@shy comet you can do a 4k with atmos stream with direct play
shy comet
yea havent tested that yet with a movie but i know it works with tv shows
tidal bronze
@last plaza DP/DS will not transcode. Your issue I think is every stream is getting transcoded.
shy comet
looks like disney released a few UHDs this week
dull chasm
atmos on tv show?
shy comet
yea Mandalorian
tidal bronze
Mandolorian is one of a kind.
last plaza
@tidal bronze probably!
clear ferry
Disney+ still isn't in Europe AFAIK
So everyone over here pirated the mandalorian
And probably won't subscribe when it comes
Bad idea from Disney 
Think they were talking about September for Europe now
light trout
It can't be a supprise to them that in 2020 other countries then the US have internet?
clear ferry
Muuuuurica
last plaza
@tidal bronze changed it back to H.264 and 4 second delay only - compared to 30+ second delay
shy comet
@clear ferry next week i think
tidal bronze
A good read @shy comet http://www.icgmagazine.com/web/a-new-hope/ Bleeding edge stuff
shy comet
but also....not all devices support Atmos with D+ so another reason for more piracy
last plaza
@clear ferry use a VPN to watch Murican shows
clear ferry
@last plaza did that a few years ago, then I just bought new drives for my nas instead
light trout
datacenter IP's get blocked fast, the only viable option is having someone privatly host a VPN in their home for you
clear ferry
My nas is more reliable than the us VPN I had
light trout
Suuure... I remember not long ago it died hours after you started vacation 😛
clear ferry
Because I was on vacation
last plaza
lmao
tidal bronze
@shy comet Mandalorian is completely done using Unreal game engine 🙂
last plaza
it conveniently happens when you are away
clear ferry
Whenever I leave for 2 weeks the power goes out and fuses don't go back
orchid rose
The amount of different streaming services will push people to pirate again. The quality has gone down recently too, GoT being the prime example. It was basically unwatchable ..
shy comet
@tidal bronze thats crazy....my only complaint though was the HDR was a bit weak
clear ferry
Which is why I have vacation PTSD, and have 67 paid holiday days banked
tidal bronze
@shy comet you mean like the shity wolverine ? LMAO
last plaza
Everytime I go on vacation, my sensors go wild and cops will be circling my home. I think it is the damn spiders that come out when we are gone for a couple of days
last time the cop was circling with a pointed gun around my house at night
the security company couldn't reach me as I was in Caribbean islands with no cell access
clear ferry
Wtf
tidal bronze
Oh that stuff is crazy, Happened to me years ago by accidentally hitting the panic alarm.
last plaza
yup
tidal bronze
I practically forgot the pass phrase and about 12 cop cars
Me in boxer shorts and gun pointed
shy comet
yea same here anytime I travel fo work and the wife is home the "house is revolting" in her words
last plaza
lmao - laughing out loud picturing you - were you on your knees with hands on back of your head?
shy comet
last time the circuit breaker kept flipping while she was asleep lol
tidal bronze
He was pointing the gun through the front door glass. And tapping on it. It was hilarious later not at the moment.
I am like WTF.
shy comet
the last time I had a paid alarm company i was stuck in a meeting and the alarm went off so i coudlnt answer the phone...cops were called...they showed up 2 hours later
last plaza
lol
shy comet
2 whole hours anything important would be gone
it ended up being the cats causing it to go off lol
tidal bronze
Panic alarm they respond in minutes
shy comet
ever since then I just call myself
tidal bronze
AKA silent
shy comet
you know what works better @tidal bronze
calling teh cops and telling them someone is there
even if you are not at home and you get a camera alert
cops show up immediately when homeowners themselves call rather than alarm company
alarm companies have too many false positives
tidal bronze
Average response for me LAFD under 2 min. LAPD around 3
shy comet
ive seen them talk about this on livepd too
clear ferry
Here the alarm company checks and of there is anything suspicious they call the cops
No need for a swat team just because the alarm triggered
tidal bronze
But I think for $35 for a year, it's a great service.
shy comet
$35/yr what service?
shy comet
and does it integrate with HA 😂
dull chasm
quad_porn.xxx
tidal bronze
Police permit, if you run a centrally monitored alarm
shy comet
oh yea i got one of those a while ago had to get it for insurance discount lol
did u ever have to take the false alarm course to save yourself teh fee?
tidal bronze
So you get 3 x free false positives without the $750 fine
shy comet
oh nice...do you have to take the course still?
tidal bronze
Not if you are under 3 false
clear ferry
I think they disarmed the Norwegian police again now, they occasionally arm them when there is actual threats to the country for a few weeks at a time
last plaza
same here - I pay about $35 a year
tidal bronze
Maybe we should start eat more brown cheese
light trout
There are worse things to eat
tidal bronze
lol
shy comet
lol
clear ferry
I still need to ship that brown cheese to @tidal bronze
Along with cloud berry candy
tidal bronze
Arctic candy
clear ferry
And blueberry stuff
dull chasm
hrhrhrhrr
light trout
If you do, you have to send the old style block 😄
shy comet
hmm need me a new binger....might go hunting one down today
clear ferry
light trout
That's the one
dull chasm
looks like poo squared
shy comet
wait thats cheese?1?!
light trout
Smells like it too outside the factory @dull chasm
dull chasm
i bet ^^^^
light trout
I prefer fløtemysost, it's a little milder
clear ferry
True
dull chasm
ya'll can have your rotten fish and chesse
tidal bronze
@shy comet talking about alarms and police response. 🤣
dull chasm
i am buying a bushmaster AR this weekend coming
pure vine
Although im not fond of people owning guns like that, Its a nice looking gun
light trout
Let's stop that conversation before it escalates 😉
pure vine
yep
dull chasm
why?
light trout
.topic @dull chasm
velvet horizonBOT
dull chasm
ok @light trout not in that at all
orchid rose
falls under religion clearly 😉
tidal bronze
LMAO
dull chasm
no doubt a gun
pure vine
I can aprecate a good looking gun. on that topic has anyone seen the videos essays by ahoy about the IRL guns that appear in video games
light trout
Not yet, but that kinds of things tends to go from 0 to 60 in no time
clear ferry
last plaza
first time I downloaded steam application yesterday on y laptop, tried to play a video game, got killed in 2 seconds
dull chasm
i dont see how ..it simply a gun nothing more or less
pure vine
Its what i said
last plaza
after 15 seconds, I uninstalled the app... not for me 😛
pure vine
But yeah, this is a good video essay serises https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOQZmjD6P2Hl3KrDBs6Vcc_5XDZbqPABC
hushed basalt
I have a friend who would rage quit after playing hl2 Deathmatch with me
I kept gravity gunning him to death with a toilet
tidal bronze
@last plaza you should leverage AI 🙂
last plaza
I am having a hard time training this deepracer
tidal bronze
There's always a way.
last plaza
the damn thing takes hours to train, and I don't have patience 😉
clear ferry
@hushed basalt is the new @scenic radish
last plaza
@hushed basalt could you stop throwing Gifs please?
last plaza
annoying when in the middle of conversation at the least
clear ferry
hushed basalt
Just you wait until Tediore wakes up
last plaza
@tidal bronze I ran for 4 hours last night straight, and I am no where close to being good, forget perfect
tidal bronze
So the training is a must? No existing models?
last plaza
there are some existing models, but the real fun is to train, not just copy someone's model
@pure vine please for ffs!
tidal bronze
So the training is from scratch or from a baseline?
orchid rose
skalavala mad 🙂
last plaza
there is real competition on the deepracers, and people don't upload their models, because of that
pure vine
last plaza
@orchid rose I am totally not - it is a public forum, I get that, there is a place and time
light trout
Yup!
#the-water-cooler now()
clear ferry
hushed basalt
You haven't seen my final form
clear ferry
last plaza
I didn't buy the deep racer yet - still running in the simulation mode... I have a lot of respect for those who trained those tensorflow models that recognizes objects
@clear ferry lol pingu
tidal bronze
So mainly based on tensor?
clear ferry
hushed basalt
Vegeta is the real MVP
last plaza
both - tensorflow and RL (reinforced learning)
tidal bronze
Can this be applied to regular IP CAM stuff?
light trout
Can this be applied to regular human?
tidal bronze
lol
last plaza
sure, human,no!
clear ferry
Human?
hushed basalt
Food stays on the table
clear ferry
Who is human?
last plaza
thats how humans continue to dominate
hushed basalt
Hooman
clear ferry
last plaza
@clear ferry HeMan's elder brother
tidal bronze
@last plaza once you master this wonder this can be used for drone navigation and not use GPS/Glonass. I am very intrigued.
last plaza
@tidal bronze you need to lower your expectations a little 😉
pure vine
is thr racer the aws thing
last plaza
yes
light trout
nono, aim high!
tidal bronze
@last plaza never with you. LOL
last plaza
AWS charges hundreds of dollars for a few hours of training. gets extremely expensive quickly
hushed basalt
If you listen to "tech" articles aimed at investors, we're just weeks away from reaching singularity
tidal bronze
Got a question about tensor and POV of a particular object. How does the angle come into play?
hushed basalt
Invest now at the ground floor or become a human battery 🔋
last plaza
it is all in the training data - in this case, you are talking about tensorflow - labeling and tuning with lots of data is the key. after a while, angles doesn't matter, it will be smart enough to figure things out
tidal bronze
So side view of a tree Vs top view, is identifiable. ?
tidal bronze
so that means top view training a must
last plaza
yup - It takes years before we get perfection in this case. the more users interested, the more data and training gets done
tidal bronze
Nice.
last plaza
we are in the early phases of ML to be honest - where folks mostly interested in identifying objects through images and cameras.... it is getting better, but we have a long way to go
hushed basalt
tidal bronze
How does it handle depth perception, when it comes to distance from objects?
hushed basalt
You might find that interesting @tidal bronze
last plaza
just like fingerprinting, it can create different types of "prints" and they can be small or large
each object has a distinctive print
tidal bronze
But racing you need distance calculations right?
light trout
nah, just be faster than the others 🎉
tidal bronze
lol
last plaza
nope - racing only requires angle, and speed and make sure you are in the center of the track
there is also object avoidance - that's even more advanced
tidal bronze
That does not cut it for navigation then.
hushed basalt
You wouldn't want to always be in the centre though would you
last plaza
Tesla has an advantage as they are capturing so much of data all over and it is getting better - others dont have that advantage yet
hushed basalt
Racing lines and all that
last plaza
in the racetrack for deep racer, you want to stay in the center of the track
tidal bronze
So basically this is avoiding objects, while maintaining maximum speed and heading angle.
last plaza
yes
that's extremely hard to train and achieve - that's essentially the challenge for deepracer. Whoever can train to go faster, complete the track wins
dull chasm
So basically this is avoiding objects, while maintaining maximum speed and heading angle.
@tidal bronze sounds like what i do every day at my job .... State Police
last plaza
except this time, you let machine do it, and you sit in the back seat drinking coffee @dull chasm
dull chasm
i could do that easly @last plaza bring it on
last plaza
@hushed basalt yes,i it does. that's the best part of reinforced learning - car figures out how to turn near the curves
tidal bronze
That's badass
last plaza
yup
dull chasm
but i cant metion that i have plenty of guns or @light trout will get mad at me
pure vine
So are you training a car to replace a formula 1 driver
hushed basalt
Truth cannons
last plaza
It is all "reward" basis - the more rewards it gets during training, the better it gets
@pure vine not today, but not too far from the future
pure vine
there is this compition started by a Formula E driver https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roborace
last plaza
Elon has open sourced it - OpenAI a long time ago, google made their Tensorflow made it to public consumption in 2012
pure vine
it was tied to formula E for a bit
tidal bronze
Can you see the UI while training?
last plaza
yes...
tidal bronze
share some screen grabs when you get a chance
last plaza
its like watching a toddler drive the toy car
tidal bronze
lol
last plaza
but slowly gets smarter and learns to do it right.. really fascinating!!!
last plaza
I shared earlier... let me see if I can share it
hushed basalt
Watching a toddler learn to drive is fun
Especially when they learn they can push the car backwards
last plaza
hushed basalt
It's like a whole new dimension has opened up for them, to ruin curtains and walls
last plaza
you actually see the car moving and making mistakes at realtime
you can train on different tracks, and after the training, it should be able to drive in any track automatically
tidal bronze
Hope you are not doing this after wine testing 🙂
pure vine
I wonder how fit a genetic algorithm will make a route for the car
last plaza
LOL - I'm not 🙂 If you are a data scientist, this is your field!
hushed basalt
Generic? :D
last plaza
finding a shortest route is whole another challenge - folks are talking about using quantum computers for it
shortest route based on traffic and various other conditions at realtime with sub second response times
hushed basalt
It gets a shorter lap time or else it gets the hose again
last plaza
yup
hushed basalt
last plaza
this is why I love the WestWorld - it will eventually become real
tidal bronze
So one day in the future, it's not the best formula 1 driver but the best trained model ? Lol
hushed basalt
Is there a fundamental difference
last plaza
lol, yup! there will be olympic competitions for AI stuff
hushed basalt
What is the best formula 1 driver other than aptitude and training
last plaza
speaking of olympics, looks like they are going to cancel it this year due to covid19
hushed basalt
Time to stock up the pantry perhaps
tidal bronze
There is a fundamental difference, since we are yet to understand the human brain 100%
last plaza
yup and masks are out of stock already
tidal bronze
No prime anti-bacterial wipes for travel as well.
tidal bronze
Yes they are but I wonder if their models are ever mass produced.
last plaza
imagine the combination of robotics with AI... scary!
Google owns them now - I think their use is specialized at the moment.... with all the robots, they couldn't plug the hole in Fukushima nuclear plant
the tech is still advancing, way more to go
tidal bronze
I read the upright models are tough with the current battery tech. Specially balance.
last plaza
yup - we don't have the robots that can walk in any terrain (like humans do) and perform tasks that require a lot of force
hushed basalt
We're complex beings
We're a long way from making androids with the same weight, size, strength and endurance as a trained soldier
tidal bronze
Human, such an interesting machine. First time you build a grab and drop mechanism, teaches you lot.....LOL
clever mortar
It's hard to build anything else that can refuel on the go 😛
tidal bronze
yep
hushed basalt
Battery tech is also a massive limitation
clever mortar
Never mind how good the biological entity is at handling random terrain and conditions
tidal bronze
I think battery is what holding us back for the last few decades.
hushed basalt
One day maybe we'll have a breakthrough and have batteries with same energy densities as gasoline
Nuclear subs and stuff are pretty amazing
How they can run for decades without refueling
clever mortar
There's a reason for the way NASA power stuff that gets lobbed into space...
hushed basalt
Nuclear powered seebeck generators right?
Very inefficient, but no moving parts
And 50 year lifespans
scenic radish
S O L I D S T A T E
last plaza
@tidal bronze is your dog home yet?
tidal bronze
No 😦
last plaza
still keeping for observation? all procedures are done?
tidal bronze
Observation. All procedures done.
last plaza
ok...
shy comet
😦 sorry to hear that dude....i hope everything turns out good
tidal bronze
Thanks man.
shy comet
what vet hospital did you go to?
tidal bronze
Usual is socal vet but for this surgery had to go to Thousand oaks.
shy comet
oh conejo valley?
tidal bronze
VSEC, Only 2 surgeons I could find that can handle it that urgent
shy comet
oh wow
tidal bronze
Regular vet said she has only seen the procedure in text books. 🙂
last plaza
glad she didn't find it on youtube!
tidal bronze
LMAO.
last plaza
I am hooked to restoration videos on YouTube these days - best videos to watch without audio while you are on calls 🙂
especially this guy from Switzerland -> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMrMVIBtqFW6O0-MWq26gqw
tidal bronze
This might interest you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_Dvap18PLc
last plaza
in the end, if he had put the actual engine sound instead of battery car sound, people would easily believe it!
great attention to the details!!! including stickers on windshields...etc!
tidal bronze
That guy is talented. I watch most of his videos.
last plaza
super accurate painting to bring that aged look to the car
full cedar
Hey all, posted a question on reddit. Looking for some fragrance options.
https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/fbhcmh/what_do_you_use_for_smart_aromatherapy_fragrance/
Anyone here use anything smart for home fragrance?
last plaza
@full cedar I just put a good old Bath and Body works thingy in a smart outlet an control it using simple timers
full cedar
I have a few of them but not happy with the dispersion of the fragrance.
full cedar
I didn't give it a fair shake I guess.
I see the power on time but not duration, how long do you run them?
Nvm I see it now duration 30 mins
Does the hour for the area work well? What's the warm up time like?
last plaza
depends on the size of the room ofcourse. some rooms 30 minutes, some up to an hour.
warm up is about 10 min
full cedar
Have you tried using Air Wick or Febreze plugins?
Wallflowers refills get extensive IMO for there size.
last plaza
It is all about what the family members like - expensive or not
full cedar
They have one I like called Flannel but it's never in stock for the sales at our local store lol
It's on ebay sometimes but more than regular price
tidal bronze
@full cedar febreeze much better, atleast for me.
tidal bronze
@last plaza great idea, got a few dozen tuyaconvert plugs left. Something for sunday.
green inlet
I get flack for my smart mailbox. I need to tell the wife that people are doing smart aroma
tidal bronze
But why?
green inlet
Shame on you......a door when mdi has mailboxes 🤣
tidal bronze
Oh my bad. Dont use the UI so dont really care what's on there.
green inlet
I did 6 random “you’ve got mail” files that play if someone is home when the mail is delivered. Makes me laugh every time. I am simple though
tidal bronze
I am slowly removing all traces of visible HA throughout my installation. Started the process 2 years ago. Haven't tried even a theme 😀
rain swift
🤷♂️
last plaza
@tidal bronze we really love the aroma outlets - My wife gets those from Bath and Body works when they have sale - we usually buy for the whole year at once. they last for about month and half in each room, so not bad
last plaza
I hate using the HA dashboard - automation is not clicking on dashboards 😛
any smart outlets - Belkin, wemo...
rain swift
You can't automate everything, don't care what anyone thinks
tidal bronze
Dont like anything UI based, practically useless when you rack up on actual number of devices.
last plaza
nothing bad about HA dashboard - we pay way too much attention to the UI than the functionality itself - when I say "we", I mean the folks who use HA
full cedar
fragrance seems like a very basic and cool thing to automate. Come home from work and house smells fresh and great
rain swift
At some point you'll need to manually kick off something by voice, button, something
last plaza
we never touched switches in our home for 3+ years now
rain swift
Do you use voice?
full cedar
I'm giving the plugin route a go. I have a few wall plugs in a draw somewhere.
rain swift
Or does it read your mind
last plaza
automations should kick in when needed and should take care of things automatically
tidal bronze
Same here perhaps 5 years now.
last plaza
yup
rain swift
Or do you just live regimented lives lol
light trout
I touch mine daily 😄
last plaza
I don't use voice either - not giving that data to amazon or google
rain swift
If you use voice it's no different than a ui
full cedar
That's a sin now...
tidal bronze
Motion driven tensor flow driven
clear ferry
FORBIDDEN TOPIC 
light trout
touching forbidden?
clear ferry
🚔
last plaza
touching is not forbidden - touching self is forbidden 😛 @light trout
rain swift
Well if you're a programmer and can write AI stuff good for you not everyone is that lol
tidal bronze
@light trout guess it's great to be in sync with your inner being, daily. 🤔
full cedar
@rain swift not really, HA automates are hardly programming. Hardly even scripting.
light trout
My inner beeing is a douche 🤷♂️
tidal bronze
What's not news 😂 😜
light trout
I guess it's in sync then 🤣
rain swift
@full cedar can you grand mother write them? And he mentioned tensor flow.
full cedar
Pretty sure that's hyperbole. And with the HA UI, maybe.
tidal bronze
Every ju ju bee is not for everyone @rain swift you gotta pick and choose
rain swift
TensorFlow is a free and open-source software library for dataflow and differentiable programming across a range of tasks.
wintry crow
I think the word differentiable is a highly underused word tbh
tidal bronze
Automation takes time, not the scripting part learning your family habits and house part. Logic is not easy as it seems.
wintry crow
Right up there with malarky...
clear ferry
@light trout both my inner and outer is, I should probably do something about that 
full cedar
@tidal bronze Yep, not much of tech problem. HA automation are fairly easy going.
last plaza
yup - I tweaked my automations so many times over the number of years, it is pretty good for our needs so far
light trout
Instead you can make me dinner @clear ferry I'm hungry!
last plaza
writing code isn't that hard... understanding our needs takes time
full cedar
Now just automate postsmates API into HA for dinner automation.
tidal bronze
Exactly, if anyone says its 2 clicks and submit, then they have 1 light and a device tracker. 😀
clever mortar
I've lost track of how many times I've revised automations, and restructured entire groups of automations...
light trout
I saw a template I made for someone probably 2y ago, maaaaan that was ugly, cut it down to about 30% of the lines yesterday 😄
clever mortar
I'm always learning new things about how the meat covered skeletons lurking in this building behave...
last plaza
most of the time I spend on changing entity ids 😛
full cedar
@light trout Sounds like my kind of code
tidal bronze
Hardest for me is 2 sets of guests in different areas
light trout
That's easy, don't have guests!
last plaza
with pets, it adds another dimension of challenges
clever mortar
Yeah, motion triggered automations can be "interesting"
last plaza
@light trout single for lyfe? LOL
full cedar
Need a PPM sesnor too find when the dog farts trigger the plug air freshener
tidal bronze
Lol
light trout
Me, Myself and I ♥️
last plaza
my mailbox is too far away from home to have a sensor!
light trout
last plaza
no loras! already have too many technologies in use already - RF, zigbee, z-wave, wifi....
last plaza
RF outlets are instant and they have a pretty good range and good for home use
full cedar
Sounds too much like Slowloris. Bad name for tech company
clear ferry
I need to look into lora
For my mailbox and maybe more
Can track my daughter in kindergarten too with it 
last plaza
@clear ferry I just use good old iphone to track my kids
clever mortar
Why do that when you can just task the spy sats 🤔
clear ferry
@last plaza 14 month olds don't have iPhones, nor will anyone in this house 
last plaza
they are getting smarter day by day, and they know how to stay off the grid when needed
@clear ferry gps tracker to the rescue
clear ferry
Not when the cheapest SIM card subscription here is $10 a month, then LoRA works out economically 💩
With my close to free kindergarten that is
brisk glen
@last plaza well.. say it 😛
last plaza
I lost my thought! 2 seconds is the most I can hold! 🙂
light trout
Try setting the retain flag to True
trim solar
Can Someone tell me the directory for the config files from plugins like zigbee (want to edit it via Editor, not plugin page)
clever mortar
Questions about integrations belong in #integrations-archived , about add-ons belong in #add-ons-archived
Things about anything Home Assistant are off topic in here though @trim solar 😉
clear ferry
brisk glen
And before no backups
wintry crow
If I saw that outside my window I'd probably be a little disturbed
clever mortar
So would your window, briefly
midnight adder
anyone using smartlife app? last couple of days devices going offline randomly. Anyone else having same problem or my router giving up?
last plaza
This is what happens when a spider crawls on motion sensor and you are not home! 😉
clear ferry
rain swift
I don't get it