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wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 5:45 AM

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eh, you can force sql to work

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 5:46 AM

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and you can also install a proper sql server, too 😛

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 5:46 AM

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but its closer to MSSQL

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i was forced to use it in a class once

hushed basalt Jan 14, 2020, 5:46 AM

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I know nothing about databases

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 5:46 AM

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i made the proff leave me alone when i started using a proper table structure

hushed basalt Jan 14, 2020, 5:47 AM

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I haven't had the opportunity to need one yet

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 5:47 AM

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@wet pilot yah...

scenic radish Jan 14, 2020, 5:47 AM

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🔥

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 5:47 AM

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that class sucked

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 5:47 AM

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lol then they wanted us to make a basic html webpage

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 5:48 AM

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no... your degree plan requires windows essentials

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 5:48 AM

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pulled down bootstrap and blasted something together

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 5:48 AM

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do yourself a favor and go dbms before you bother with nosql

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 5:48 AM

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yeah, need the structure before you drop it

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 5:48 AM

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computer essentials

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 5:48 AM

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the theory you'll learn that way will help you understand proper ways of working with nosql

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 5:48 AM

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thats the class

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 5:48 AM

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yep, worst class ever

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 5:48 AM

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ahh good ol BIS/MIS classes

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 5:49 AM

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managed to condense it down to 6w at least

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 5:49 AM

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oh idk, A+ was almost just as bad

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 5:49 AM

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took calc 1 in the other 6

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XD

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(it was a retake because credits didn't transfer)

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 5:50 AM

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professor docker me for not including a cd drive.. I was like bitch this is the future

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who the hell needs a cd drive anymore soon

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 5:50 AM

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haha

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 5:50 AM

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lol i remember when i was like 16, went to go get A+ cert for the hell of it, and the guy next to me asked me how to turn on the PC we were taking the test on... after 5min of watching him struggle, i leaned down and plugged it in, and walked out

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 5:50 AM

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i don't have a working one here anymore

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ouch

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 5:51 AM

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lol on stream the other day i was kinda bragging about the optiplex's we got from their donations, and i realized it actually has a slim dvd player in it, and i was like "oh neat, haven't seen one of these in a while!" and then i couldn't get it to open 🤣

hushed basalt Jan 14, 2020, 5:51 AM

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I've got massive study brain block atm

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Need some meetups for inspiration but it's dead season

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 5:51 AM

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so you get us instead

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you're welcome!

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 5:51 AM

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Im drunk... soo I got lots of ideas

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 5:51 AM

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haha

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i should catch up

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 5:52 AM

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meetups are a great way to realize you know more than everyone else around you

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a great pick me up

hushed basalt Jan 14, 2020, 5:52 AM

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Staying around @scenic radish gives me perspective on how good I am

scenic radish Jan 14, 2020, 5:52 AM

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glad to be of assistance

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 5:52 AM

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though cons can do the opposite

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 5:52 AM

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I got over the imposter syndrome

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 5:52 AM

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https://giphy.com/gifs/burn-arizona-jan-brewer-pQmWjYrz39YAg

Giphy

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 5:53 AM

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i went in to pycon this year expecting to learn stuff at least. and i did 🙂

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 5:53 AM

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some cons can be really great, others not so much... i find them hit or miss

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but always great for networking

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 5:53 AM

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yup

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i'm happy with my current gig otherwise i would have been super tempted to look around

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need a few more years with my title change to be safe

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started in support and when i hit the fork for dev or admin i took the dev path

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 5:54 AM

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admin is easer

hushed basalt Jan 14, 2020, 5:55 AM

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I'm definitely more interested in dev over admin

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 5:55 AM

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blame the dev

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 5:55 AM

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heh

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but we all can blame support

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 5:55 AM

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lol

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 5:55 AM

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(or deployment)

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 5:55 AM

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📎 IMG_20200113_235523.jpg

hushed basalt Jan 14, 2020, 5:55 AM

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Whats your definition of dev vs ops vs admin

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 5:55 AM

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I love this stuff

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 5:55 AM

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naaa, deployment is golden

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 5:55 AM

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the line between dev and ops is bluring these days

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 5:55 AM

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Devops can write a script, dev can build an app

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 5:56 AM

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you have to go through the 7 tier of hell to deploy

hushed basalt Jan 14, 2020, 5:56 AM

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Devops titles make me 🤢

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 5:56 AM

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And architect and design and build apps

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 5:56 AM

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heh

hushed basalt Jan 14, 2020, 5:56 AM

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It's like having an OHS department

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Devops is something you do not a person or department

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 5:56 AM

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Mmmm you could argue the same for QA

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But you wouldn't dare

hushed basalt Jan 14, 2020, 5:57 AM

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Wtf do QA people do

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 5:57 AM

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though devops are being dumped the "privilege" of deploying and maintaining k8s

hushed basalt Jan 14, 2020, 5:57 AM

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Shouldn't devs write their own tests

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 5:57 AM

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hey, i like our QA

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 5:57 AM

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Every dev should be able to devops and qa

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Unit tests, yes

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 5:57 AM

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devs are good at unit tests

hushed basalt Jan 14, 2020, 5:57 AM

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I think devs and ops are still discrete roles

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 5:57 AM

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QA are great at functional

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 5:57 AM

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Which so many people get wrong in the first place

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Functional and e2e

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 5:58 AM

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and our QA team constantly find new ways to break or shit before the customers do

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and then they automate those tests

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 5:58 AM

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@hushed basalt they are unless you work for a mom and pop shop

hushed basalt Jan 14, 2020, 5:58 AM

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Someone managing your cluster shouldn't be worried about your functions and visa versa

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 5:58 AM

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then you want to run

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 5:58 AM

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They also are typically your SME for integrations as well if you're using them right

hushed basalt Jan 14, 2020, 5:58 AM

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They can be done by the same person

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But that's one person doing two roles

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 5:58 AM

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https://www.window11updates.com/

hushed basalt Jan 14, 2020, 5:58 AM

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But not one role. If that makes sense

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 5:58 AM

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No QA should never do unit tests

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 5:59 AM

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SETs can

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but QA should not

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 5:59 AM

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The person who writes it should be doing unit tests

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 5:59 AM

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truth

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 5:59 AM

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@forest edge what is this bullshit website

hushed basalt Jan 14, 2020, 5:59 AM

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Like most things people think of as devops, is that just a developer using automatic deployment

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 5:59 AM

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And if you're really wanting checks and balances, go cucumber

hushed basalt Jan 14, 2020, 5:59 AM

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On a managed cloud service

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 5:59 AM

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we all know win 10 is forever

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 5:59 AM

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Let the business define tests

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:00 AM

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but SETs can be much better at writing test fixtures for re-use

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 6:00 AM

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@brisk glen the first linux injection windows.. phase1

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 6:00 AM

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what?

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sources?

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:00 AM

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Can't say I know what an SET is

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:00 AM

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Software Engineer in Test

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:01 AM

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Oh, duh

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:01 AM

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they're the automation masters

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:01 AM

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Yeah cuz I'd never do that lol

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:01 AM

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haha

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:01 AM

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I use devops for that

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:01 AM

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we have full stack in one team so we have to do all our own shit

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:01 AM

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Ansible and done

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That's ok

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And honestly you're probably better off for it

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:02 AM

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in a lot of ways we are

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until the company tries to make us work with others and they have no idea what we're doing

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:02 AM

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Too many chefs in the kitchen

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 6:02 AM

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@brisk glen https://www.publish0x.com/linux/will-windows-11-run-using-linux-kernel-xnnopy

Will Windows 11 Run Using the Linux Kernel?

As many users have said, Windows operating systems have many problems. According to a theory put forward, these problems are not superficial, they are of core origin. Therefore, Microsoft may prefer the Linux kernel instead of its own NT kernel in Wi...

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:02 AM

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we're full py3 before the drop dead date, they are just starting their transition

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 6:03 AM

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I mean there are lots of sources

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that was an older one back in spet

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sept

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:03 AM

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lots of speculation but nothing official

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it smells right though

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they've been contributing a lot of code to linux lately

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:04 AM

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Honestly there's no reason not to

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:04 AM

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and porting most of their money making software

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:04 AM

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But then licensing gets hairy

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:04 AM

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depends on where they want to play

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:04 AM

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Lots of tools would break their business model

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:04 AM

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add kernel stuff where it makes sense, sell their apps on top where it doesnt

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:05 AM

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It's what kinda makes Android a pain to build a new product with

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:05 AM

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open source things that they don't need to make money from

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(.net)

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:05 AM

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Look at how vscode is treated by licensing nerds

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:05 AM

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i saw a writeup recently

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apparently its fine

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:05 AM

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They fork and bastardize it to get proprietary info out

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:06 AM

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atom is better

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(licensing wise)

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:06 AM

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Maybe but I haven't used it in so long to have any say on that

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:07 AM

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strictly from a licensing standpoint, atom is clearer

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and more open

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vscode isn't that bad though as things go

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 6:07 AM

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i still use sublime

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lol

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:07 AM

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lol

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pycharm pro at work. vscode at home

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 6:07 AM

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i have vscode and use it too but find myself opening sublime without thinking

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:08 AM

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after my experience with atom, i stayed on sublime for as long as i could

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but now it's vscode or get rekt

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:08 AM

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atom was ok

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electron apps...

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:08 AM

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well.. no.. i did intellij for a long time

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electron is ok

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:08 AM

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when done well

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:08 AM

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chromium is big

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:09 AM

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i got a slack dev to admit to their memory hogging issues

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he was praising a cli client

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:09 AM

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yeah i didn't like slack very much

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:09 AM

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i wish they'd stop fucking around and give us full markdown formatting

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but they won't because its too scary for the scrubs

hushed basalt Jan 14, 2020, 6:10 AM

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Slack killed code blocks on mobile

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They know who their market is, and don't care about the rest

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:10 AM

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company is trying to push us to use teams

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:11 AM

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i'd rather use discord honestly

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and webhooks

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:11 AM

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the threading of slack is nice to have

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:11 AM

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eh... yeah... i can see that.... we always still opted to create new channels for lengthy discussions

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:12 AM

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some large rooms can become too messy without it

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#engineering or #support

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but all the damn TSEs blast atHere all the fucking time

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had to mute any channels they join

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atHere is a thing in discord, caught that last min 😛

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don't want to pull a @ocean mirage

ocean mirage Jan 14, 2020, 6:14 AM

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🙂

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If anyone whinges about a 'here' ping they are even more boomer than people who complain about regular pings

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cause it doesnt do shit except add a number

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:15 AM

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i think here is straight up disabled on this server

ocean mirage Jan 14, 2020, 6:15 AM

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but like I said - everyone gets one

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:15 AM

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but i'm not about to test it

ocean mirage Jan 14, 2020, 6:15 AM

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possible

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:17 AM

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if everyone is, so is here, they are tied together

📎 unknown.png

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 6:18 AM

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the athere only pings those who aren't away

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its the better choice

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in most cases

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:19 AM

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usually

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still not polite in rooms with many people

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atEverone is disabled for all but the admin role i think

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 6:20 AM

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i have those turned off globally lol

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:20 AM

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i disable it on all my discords

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 6:21 AM

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i'll see the little red 1 or whatever but it won't like ping me

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:21 AM

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now, one thing server owners can do is create a role that everyone is assigned to, and then mention that one via a bot command (because you have to enable mentioning, mention, and immediately disable mentioning to avoid abuse)

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i've left discord's over that

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:22 AM

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not sure how things are structured here

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 6:22 AM

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gotta be admin to see the settings for the server

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:23 AM

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yup

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 6:23 AM

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or atleast a role with permissions to do so

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:23 AM

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and i'm not that 😛

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 6:23 AM

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I always thought discords permission structure was alittle messed up

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but they havve gotten alittle better

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when it first started it wa slimited as hell

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:24 AM

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btw, whoever it was that mentioend the great suspender, it's been working out pretty well

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:24 AM

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oh i use that one, its nice

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:24 AM

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as a test i noticed my chrome was using 500mb, and cycled every tab to test and it went up to 1.6gb instantly

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:24 AM

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oh, i use "the great discarder"

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 6:24 AM

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just how many damn tabs do you need open?

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lol

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:25 AM

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errr what's the difference?

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:25 AM

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i'm not sure

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:25 AM

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made by the same person

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:25 AM

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i switched for some reason but i don't remember why

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:25 AM

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well i was doign lots of research on legal matters for this contractor bs, so i had a shit ton open

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:25 AM

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i tend to have a ton open when i'm developing

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researching apis and shit

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:26 AM

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Advantages over The Great Suspender:
- More memory savings
- Compatible with chrome tab syncing
- Super lightweight extension that uses no content scripts or persistent background scripts

Disadvantages over The Great Suspender:
- No visibility on which tabs have been suspended
- Unable to prevent a tab from reloading when it gains focus

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:26 AM

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its nice when i can move a story to dev-complete and close all that shit out

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ah ok

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i switched to it when he first released it

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and kinda forgot about the other one

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:26 AM

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not sure what the last bullet point there implies

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so once it's suspended you can't reload it?

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:27 AM

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if you switch tabs it instantly reloads it

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:27 AM

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oh, PREVENT

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can't words, cuz brain

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i also have a ton of extensions for dev stuff, so the less access to tabs the better

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:28 AM

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yup

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:28 AM

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mmmm that dark theme: https://tomatothemebase.eu/?p=1580

Tomato Theme Base

Theme: advanced_v1

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 6:29 AM

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lol look at you zwave groupies going at it in #zwave-archived

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:29 AM

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y u mad sonoma

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:29 AM

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https://giphy.com/gifs/Ck1Pib39Dl5TSzFB3S

Giphy

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 6:30 AM

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where the hell is atx

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:30 AM

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ded

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 6:30 AM

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oh there he is

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:30 AM

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got norwat'd

hushed basalt Jan 14, 2020, 6:45 AM

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Didn't pay his taxes

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Got eaten by socialism

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 6:49 AM

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well he was there and then he wasn't

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maybe he did get eaten

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one of these nights i need to install arch on my old goflex

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I keep putting it off

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:55 AM

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speaking of putting it off... i should go cuddle with the wifey before she heads out on business... catch you lovely Nerds tomorrow o/

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 6:57 AM

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o/

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 7:44 AM

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Y'all thought I was dead

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You would be sad

hushed basalt Jan 14, 2020, 7:56 AM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/283fc1ce606c0caced82383b19f2021c/tenor.gif

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 7:58 AM

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sad

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 8:00 AM

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@clear ferry you said you never played Queen.. then how do you explain this? https://youtu.be/uDrdZM1iGrc

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 8:01 AM

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🤣

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I prefer this

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgbNymZ7vqY

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strange vapor Jan 14, 2020, 8:43 AM

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https://www.manning.com/books/operations-anti-patterns-devops-solutions So much of this reads true!

Manning Publications

Operations Anti-Patterns: DevOps Solutions

This is truly a DevOps from the trenches book.

hushed basalt Jan 14, 2020, 8:57 AM

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Interesting!

loud minnow Jan 14, 2020, 10:12 AM

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hi! Just joined so first wanted to say how much I like home-assistant! Such a improvement over my earlier openhab2 setup

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 10:19 AM

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wooo dance

rare condor Jan 14, 2020, 11:29 AM

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going to osaka end of this year 😄 https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/13/21064777/super-nintendo-world-mario-theme-park-osaka-japan-wristbands-mobile-app

The Verge

Japan’s Super Nintendo World theme park will feature smart Mario...

Starting in Osaka, Japan and opening later in the US and Singapore

midnight adder Jan 14, 2020, 11:34 AM

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ah yeah nice setup

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i should show you mine

cedar glacier Jan 14, 2020, 11:34 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/BorM5PF.jpg

Imgur

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isnt she beautiful

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so fucking messy

midnight adder Jan 14, 2020, 11:34 AM

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yes

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wait for mine

cedar glacier Jan 14, 2020, 11:34 AM

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also action has tuya bulbs for like 7 bucks @midnight adder

midnight adder Jan 14, 2020, 11:36 AM

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https://imgur.com/a/T5JJ2l0

Imgur

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lol

cedar glacier Jan 14, 2020, 11:36 AM

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sick. i need to get myself a proper monitor stand

midnight adder Jan 14, 2020, 11:36 AM

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well this is from my dads company some spare one

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cant wait to move out and invest in a proper setup

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yet this is already quite decent

cedar glacier Jan 14, 2020, 11:37 AM

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did it fall off the truck? 🙂

midnight adder Jan 14, 2020, 11:37 AM

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nah

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haha

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just moved from berlin back home

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and at the company i could buy the left 2 monitors for 10 euros each

cedar glacier Jan 14, 2020, 11:38 AM

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sick

ocean mirage Jan 14, 2020, 11:38 AM

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lol that flag

midnight adder Jan 14, 2020, 11:38 AM

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haha sorry i got a weak spot for the usa

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basically seen the whole country

cedar glacier Jan 14, 2020, 11:39 AM

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didnt even notice

midnight adder Jan 14, 2020, 11:39 AM

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but yeah im cleaning rn

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so i should post in like 15min haha

strange vapor Jan 14, 2020, 11:39 AM

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https://martinheinz.dev/blog/13

Martin Heinz - Personal Website & Blog

Welcome to my personal website and blog, here you can find some information about me, contact, social media links as well as
my blog posts

midnight adder Jan 14, 2020, 11:40 AM

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@cedar glacier waarom trouwens 220 volt en geen 230?

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 11:40 AM

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Raise you @cedar glacier

📎 JPEG_20200114_124014.jpg

midnight adder Jan 14, 2020, 11:40 AM

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sugar free

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ooooof

young sigil Jan 14, 2020, 12:25 PM

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Awww. I had a clean-up (put junk in boxes) on the weekend. https://i.imgur.com/AyfHYoe.jpg

Imgur

midnight adder Jan 14, 2020, 12:26 PM

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hi guys im trying to set up HA and some tuya bulbs flashed with tasmota, i flashed it and configured mqtt. HA sees te light but is not able to do anything, and from tasmota page im also not able to turn the bulb on or of... any ideas?

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ow shit posted wrong section sorry

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neat! @young sigil

cedar glacier Jan 14, 2020, 12:33 PM

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@midnight adder 230 idd

midnight adder Jan 14, 2020, 1:19 PM

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@cedar glacier im turning my desk drawer upside down

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what i find in it

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i literally throw everything in it lol

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 1:21 PM

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@young sigil easy to see who does this professionally and who is a doofus 😉

midnight adder Jan 14, 2020, 1:22 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/7y31jiA

Imgur

last dirge Jan 14, 2020, 1:51 PM

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junk drawer!

midnight adder Jan 14, 2020, 1:51 PM

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i 'sorted' it

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throw away 5%

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😛

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 1:54 PM

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@strange vapor do you have pipe mixture on your karma ?

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oof I should buy the nightwish packs on synthcloud

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they are nice

last dirge Jan 14, 2020, 2:08 PM

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@young sigil nice bench

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Rigol fan, eh?

midnight adder Jan 14, 2020, 2:11 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/GYvRNNM

Imgur

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Fixed the mess

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including the junk drawer

hushed basalt Jan 14, 2020, 2:40 PM

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I wonder what would happen if we just ignored ||FORBIDDEN TOPIC|| questions in lounge

midnight adder Jan 14, 2020, 2:40 PM

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spoiler

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 2:41 PM

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probably get a few rage events

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

hushed basalt Jan 14, 2020, 2:41 PM

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Please direct all support requests to our free 24/7 help line. Available at @clear ferry

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 2:41 PM

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you misspelled @scenic radish

hushed basalt Jan 14, 2020, 2:42 PM

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Every time I try to type his name my phone autocorrects it to jerkface

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 2:42 PM

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rofl

hushed basalt Jan 14, 2020, 2:42 PM

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Or my brain does

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 2:42 PM

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one of the two

scenic radish Jan 14, 2020, 2:43 PM

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@wet pilot i'm on vacation, @clear ferry is covering for me

midnight adder Jan 14, 2020, 2:43 PM

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atxbyea only accepts HA when your house uses about the same amount of energy as an average norwegian power plant produces
@orchid rose
XD

hushed basalt Jan 14, 2020, 2:43 PM

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One of them makes decisions based on faulty logic, and the other one is my phone

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📎 1579013505338241962329164470312.jpg

midnight adder Jan 14, 2020, 3:11 PM

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which automations are out there for kitchens or what are devices that could be connected to home assistant?

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my parents are changing their kitchen and i want to advice them some future proof devices

last dirge Jan 14, 2020, 3:15 PM

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lights

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that's about all I'd want automated in my kitchen

valid halo Jan 14, 2020, 3:27 PM

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Bah

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We all know we need an Alexa having Oven

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with RGB lighting inside the oven

last dirge Jan 14, 2020, 3:30 PM

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there was a dude on reddit that put a LED bulb in his oven

scenic radish Jan 14, 2020, 3:32 PM

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can't imagine that went well

valid halo Jan 14, 2020, 3:43 PM

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Reminds me of the dude who put a plastic cutting board in his oven

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"Mom's gonna whup my ass cuz the cutting board melted."

midnight adder Jan 14, 2020, 4:26 PM

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how do you guys work around thunder triggering motion sensors?

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 4:27 PM

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could add a for condition

last dirge Jan 14, 2020, 4:27 PM

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what the hell kind of thunder do you have?

midnight adder Jan 14, 2020, 4:28 PM

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ofcourse, but we currently have those motion triggers for the lights that when you wave under it the lights of the kitchen go on

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and off

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idk when we are sitting in the living room and there is lighting of the tunder

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thunder

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 4:28 PM

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could add a .5s delay

last dirge Jan 14, 2020, 4:28 PM

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those should be pyrolized IR

midnight adder Jan 14, 2020, 4:28 PM

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then de lights of the kitchen go on

last dirge Jan 14, 2020, 4:28 PM

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which would potentially be triggered by lightning

midnight adder Jan 14, 2020, 4:28 PM

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and off

last dirge Jan 14, 2020, 4:28 PM

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not thunder

midnight adder Jan 14, 2020, 4:29 PM

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not native english lol sorryr

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 4:57 PM

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https://youtu.be/hLWw1OpDrpI

YouTube

WhitetheDark

Cannon Fodder Press Play on tape

Absolut adoration to the band "Press Play on Tape" wiche plays the Cannon Fodder theme with videogames controllers and also with Jon Hare, one of the original composser of the theme.

▶ Play video

dusky plank Jan 14, 2020, 4:59 PM

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anybody have a explanation why iphone's don't like my 5ghz wifi?
It just stays on 2.4... my macbook never leaves 5ghz 🤔 i have no idea whats going on

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Distance, and antenna size, maybe?

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 4:59 PM

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@wet pilot I am calling about the topic that must not be named

dusky plank Jan 14, 2020, 5:00 PM

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@narrow marten 3 meters currently, at max no walls, direct line of sight

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 5:00 PM

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lol

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Hmmm... current iOS updates?

dusky plank Jan 14, 2020, 5:01 PM

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yep, newest ios on iphone xs

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Probably it reads the 2.4ghz as stronger

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And shitty software

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According to a fast Google search

dusky plank Jan 14, 2020, 5:02 PM

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ok it just connected, but only when i turned wifi off and got to the AP within 1m
well then my 5ghz is shit I guess

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Even saw a guy who had a defective WiFi chip in his iPhone which caused it to never select 5ghz

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I was referring to the iOS software 😛

dusky plank Jan 14, 2020, 5:03 PM

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you might be correct... my iphone 6 behaves like my macbook but my XS apparently sucks in reception

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:03 PM

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And this is why I stay a gen or two behind on my iOS hardware

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:04 PM

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I bought an apple product back in 2005, never again 😛

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:04 PM

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And I’m the exact opposite, I converted in ‘03 and never went back

last dirge Jan 14, 2020, 5:05 PM

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money for performance it just doesn't make sense

dusky plank Jan 14, 2020, 5:05 PM

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@narrow marten me too, but I experience a lack of quality control for the software since ´13

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Watched my wife have issues with her galaxy products for 7 years.. oddly enough she has an iphone, iPad, and a Mac book now

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Who cares if the software is bad, the users keep buying xi2

orchid rose Jan 14, 2020, 5:07 PM

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what if you just forget the 2.4GHz network mstone?

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:08 PM

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People use different ssids for 2.4 and 5ghz still? What is this? 2012?

boreal pewter Jan 14, 2020, 5:08 PM

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2009

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:08 PM

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😂

dusky plank Jan 14, 2020, 5:09 PM

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@orchid rose in aperfect world.. vacuums and cheap usb sticks know 5ghz 😉 but you're right, I should make a separate SSID for 2.4

orchid rose Jan 14, 2020, 5:10 PM

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I had some issues with the same SSID name at some point so I have two now as well. Can't remember what exactly it was though

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:10 PM

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🤢

boreal pewter Jan 14, 2020, 5:10 PM

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I do have a Wifi for 2.4Ghz only and a different subnet for.. guess what... my Nintendo devices as 3DS and Switch since they simply do not connect fine with the main network 🤷

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Still main Wifi combo + Guest + 2.4 only

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Mine was constant hopping back an forth

boreal pewter Jan 14, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Thx Unifi 🤣

orchid rose Jan 14, 2020, 5:11 PM

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oh I have a Guest network for 2.4GHz as well for these pesky nodemcu boards that hate my network and refuse to connect to it most of the time

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:11 PM

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I don't think I've had WiFi issues in the last 10 years

orchid rose Jan 14, 2020, 5:11 PM

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...connect fine on the guest network though on the same router mindblown

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:11 PM

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PEBKAC from all of you ThonkEyes

boreal pewter Jan 14, 2020, 5:12 PM

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I don't misuse the Guest Network tho, it has 2 layers of AUTH, like public hotspots

dusky plank Jan 14, 2020, 5:12 PM

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@clear ferry so you don't broadcast 2.4 at all?

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:12 PM

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@dusky plank sure I do, on the same ssid as 5

boreal pewter Jan 14, 2020, 5:12 PM

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And guests also receive 5Ghz 😛

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Guest networks you say, you have guests? ;)

boreal pewter Jan 14, 2020, 5:13 PM

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No, actually not. BUT I HAVE IT

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:14 PM

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I used to have a captive portal, but meh, I just secure my devices, they won't get anywhere they ain't supposed to go anyway

boreal pewter Jan 14, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Overspamming the neighbours automatic canal change of their stupid routers is a good feeling tho

dusky plank Jan 14, 2020, 5:14 PM

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@boreal pewter how's that AUTH part working for guests? there's a name for this procedure I think...

boreal pewter Jan 14, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Let me look at Unifi

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Unifi 🤢

boreal pewter Jan 14, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Ah it's simply their Hotspot feature which I use for the Guest network setting first a password so they can connect at all and then forcing to visit my hotspot page to auth again

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📎 unknown.png

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:16 PM

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So just WPA and then captive portal

boreal pewter Jan 14, 2020, 5:16 PM

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@dusky plank

dusky plank Jan 14, 2020, 5:17 PM

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captive portal 😄

boreal pewter Jan 14, 2020, 5:17 PM

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Yeah didn't want to have that too public

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:17 PM

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Same as we have done for 20 years otherwise 😛

boreal pewter Jan 14, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Oh I tuned it

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📎 unknown.png

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:20 PM

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iLOVEyou

boreal pewter Jan 14, 2020, 5:20 PM

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❤️

dusky plank Jan 14, 2020, 5:20 PM

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let me be your guest

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Sounds kinky, fifty shades of WiFi

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ThonkEyes

boreal pewter Jan 14, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Oh dear there comes the name change

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Lol!

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Fifty frequencies of WiFi mindblown

boreal pewter Jan 14, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Don't forget to add _2.4ghz and _5ghz mindblown

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Splitting up the WiFi

dusky plank Jan 14, 2020, 5:22 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1vxh76/what_is_the_best_name_for_a_wifi_network/cewsj3c?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

What is the best name for a WiFi network?

8 Hz WAN IP

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Like prehistoric barbarians

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Sounds like the title of the new geek movie coming out

boreal pewter Jan 14, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Uh Uh calling it 127.0.0.1

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:23 PM

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My neighbor has ICE_van2

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:23 PM

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I can't even get any of my neighbors WiFi

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It's nice

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Distance?

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Not like when I WiFi scan my customers, 500ssids and a few thousand access points that are not relevant are received

boreal pewter Jan 14, 2020, 5:24 PM

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@clear ferry owns more ha m2 than you earn a year in bucks

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:24 PM

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10-50 meters on all sides

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Nice, I’m looking at 5 acres here in Fl

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:25 PM

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My property is only 800m2

dusky plank Jan 14, 2020, 5:26 PM

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i have a flat with 70m2, go figure I still need 2.4
but I occupy channel 7, at least...

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:26 PM

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Not sure of the conversion, 2400’2

valid halo Jan 14, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Around 222 square Euro Units

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:28 PM

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@clear ferry you considering my question in #330990055533576204?

valid halo Jan 14, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Make that 223.

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:29 PM

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No, it was just very bizarre ThonkEyes

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angryboi

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OKTrump

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:29 PM

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@valid halo does not help me a bit...

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@clear ferry why so?

valid halo Jan 14, 2020, 5:30 PM

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^_^; Sorry. I just threw your 2400 foot squared into Google and it threw that back

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:31 PM

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It was a lot to stuff into a single hat, if at all possible without many caveats

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:31 PM

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No worries, just never even heard of square euro units before..

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Freedom units PartyParrot

valid halo Jan 14, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Feet=Freedom Units. Meters=Euro Units.

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Ahhhh...

valid halo Jan 14, 2020, 5:32 PM

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irreverent humor helps pass the time

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:32 PM

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The danker the better jerryWhat

valid halo Jan 14, 2020, 5:32 PM

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You know it

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Lol, it’s funny now that I’m following, I’m retired and don’t get out much

valid halo Jan 14, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Ah. Well I am a millennial and so for the moment I'm able to keep up with what the kids are into

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one day I'm gonna be old and gray and go "Back in my day we used KEYBOARDS and not THOUGHT CONTROL."

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Retirement, that will have to wait 40 more years 😛

valid halo Jan 14, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Maybe I'll never retire

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My mom is 66 and still plans to work a few more years

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 5:34 PM

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@clear ferry norwat's retirement is at 80? wow lol

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:35 PM

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@clear ferry I bought it before I knew what I was getting into, I had figured that Linux had moved along in similar fashion to windows.

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Nah, starts at 63, but you can work to 70 in the state and indefinitely in private I think

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:35 PM

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I retired at 40... worked very hard before that

valid halo Jan 14, 2020, 5:35 PM

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That's very impressive.

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:36 PM

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No that hard actually

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:36 PM

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I think in Greece they start retiring at 52

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Mindset more than anything else

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:37 PM

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I've had a job since I was nine, so I can't imagine not working 😛

valid halo Jan 14, 2020, 5:37 PM

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My first job was at I think 19

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 5:37 PM

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been working since 16

valid halo Jan 14, 2020, 5:37 PM

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I don't think much about it. Working at Wal-Mart is an experience best forgotten

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:37 PM

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I started working at 12...

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 5:37 PM

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first IT gig at 16 (yay nepotism)

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:37 PM

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At 19 I'd had 8 different employers

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 5:38 PM

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managed to hold that for 4 years

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Damn...

valid halo Jan 14, 2020, 5:38 PM

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dang atx you sure like to burn bridges

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:38 PM

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I was assuming at once

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:38 PM

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I've held my current job since I was 22, I'll have my 14th anniversary this year

scenic radish Jan 14, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Well this sucks. I forgot that Google WiFi doesn't support guest networks in bridge mode. So I either need to deal with double NAT or get a new AP

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Since I'll have the edgerouter today

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 5:39 PM

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thought you bought an asus lol

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Told you when you bought it @scenic radish 😛

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Edgerouter 🤢

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Google WiFi 🤢

scenic radish Jan 14, 2020, 5:39 PM

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It's the Google WiFi that's the issue, not the edgerouter

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Yeah, I told you when you bought the wifi

valid halo Jan 14, 2020, 5:40 PM

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I know that feeling Tediore

scenic radish Jan 14, 2020, 5:40 PM

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I bought it a long time ago fool

valid halo Jan 14, 2020, 5:40 PM

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My memory feels like a collander

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:40 PM

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@scenic radish you did?

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Who tf did I berate

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😂

scenic radish Jan 14, 2020, 5:40 PM

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The Google WiFi, yeah. I've had it for years

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:40 PM

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I thought it was you

scenic radish Jan 14, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Since like 2017

valid halo Jan 14, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Who did you hurt atx?

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:41 PM

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A lot of people

valid halo Jan 14, 2020, 5:41 PM

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🤣

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 5:41 PM

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oh i thought you bought something neat.. i see i was mistaken lol

scenic radish Jan 14, 2020, 5:41 PM

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I guess I could just treat my WLAN as a separate network entirely

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At least until I save up for a new AP

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:42 PM

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I have a lot of AP's

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24 in boxes to be exact 😛

scenic radish Jan 14, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Wtf lol

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 5:42 PM

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they all wireless g

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Had a few spare ones after installing 1700

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 5:42 PM

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lol

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:42 PM

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MSM 466 @forest edge

valid halo Jan 14, 2020, 5:42 PM

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are you like the Tech Fairy atx?

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You just seem to have STUFF

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lots of it

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:43 PM

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I have... Stuff

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Sell one or 2? Will they work in the US

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:43 PM

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I have some CPUs in my garage very few others have

valid halo Jan 14, 2020, 5:43 PM

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See this is what I mean

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Itanium Madison CPUs

valid halo Jan 14, 2020, 5:43 PM

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"Ive got a few access points here. Some CPUs there. A random quantum computer in the attic from an old project."

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:44 PM

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You mean like my irf switch cluster @valid halo ?

valid halo Jan 14, 2020, 5:44 PM

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I dont even know what that is 😄

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but sure

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:45 PM

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PedoBearD

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Rofl, and I thought my computer museum was bad, I have enough old hardware to start a computer and console museum

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 5:46 PM

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I have a rx3600 a rx6600, a rx4640 and a bl860c too

valid halo Jan 14, 2020, 5:46 PM

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My collection currently is an excess of tv's and monitors

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i've got like five

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Osmond, trs80, apple2e, 8086, I can keep going

valid halo Jan 14, 2020, 5:46 PM

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please someone take one

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They're free

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 5:47 PM

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whats with the hpe?

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Hpe?

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 5:49 PM

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those ap's he has in boxes

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Anyone remember Castle? Dos game?

valid halo Jan 14, 2020, 5:50 PM

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the only DOS game I know how to play is CMD

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Lol, I’m old...

valid halo Jan 14, 2020, 5:50 PM

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along with it's cousin "How do I do this in CMD?"

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 5:51 PM

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@scenic radish why did you decide to go with a non-wifi router?

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:52 PM

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I built my first robot at 9, in 1984... I’m really f”ing old.... I’ll shut up now...

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 5:53 PM

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lol

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@narrow marten I don't remembe rit, but i likely played that Castle game at least once

river rune Jan 14, 2020, 5:53 PM

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It depends on what you count as a "robot" I built a car that could follow lines when I was 10... That would have been 2002 lol

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 5:53 PM

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I remember mostly Zork lol

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Ok... at least I’m not the only one left

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Zork and that stupid Lucy Therapy game for ApplII

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:54 PM

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I had forgotten Zork, my first game with graphics,

dusky plank Jan 14, 2020, 5:55 PM

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my first game was Z

scenic radish Jan 14, 2020, 5:55 PM

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@forest edge I wanted to use my existing router as an AP. Guess I'll just return the edgerouter and buy one with WiFi

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 5:56 PM

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your current is that google ap thing?

scenic radish Jan 14, 2020, 5:56 PM

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Yeah

narrow marten Jan 14, 2020, 5:56 PM

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My Atari made me royalty in my neighborhood.... lol

valid halo Jan 14, 2020, 5:56 PM

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Noice

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 5:56 PM

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ah yea you are severely restricted with what all you can do with thos epucks

scenic radish Jan 14, 2020, 5:57 PM

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Yeah, it was honestly fine until it started acting up with a really dumb issue

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If bridge mode supported guest networks it wouldn't even be an issue

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 5:57 PM

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get you something that you can optionally flash with a custom firmware down the road

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even if you end up nevver doing it

inner vault Jan 14, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Wireless bits often go bad before router bits (especially when routing processing contributes to extra heat on the wireless bits), thus separate AP and routers are a great idea

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although that may have been more true 5+ years ago

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 6:05 PM

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@inner vault i got an original wrt54g with ddwrt that will argue with you lol

inner vault Jan 14, 2020, 6:06 PM

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@forest edge I've got two dead ones in my "hey, one day I'll definitely cannibalize this for parts" box of broken stuff in the basement with a strong counter argument 😛

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 6:06 PM

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lol

river rune Jan 14, 2020, 6:06 PM

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It is true that in general the wireless parts will fail first in my experience... But the wrt54gs were just beasts. I still have at least one of them somewhere

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We use them for mesh networks at Ham Radio events

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 6:07 PM

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i think 20 years or more is a pretty acceptable give-up-on-life span

inner vault Jan 14, 2020, 6:08 PM

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but yeah, they were workhorses

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at least one of them probably didn't like living ontop of a crt monitor =\

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 6:09 PM

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lol

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yea that's the heat you spoke of

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that and when people put them on top of old refrigerators

river rune Jan 14, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Or closed cabnets

inner vault Jan 14, 2020, 6:12 PM

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in their natural habitat stacked with a cable modem and a few external harddrives on the shelves of this badboy https://www.ikea.com/ca/en/images/products/micke-corner-workstation__0734327_PE739443_S5.JPG?f=s

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or whatever the 2003 equivalent was

boreal pewter Jan 14, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Oh I had something like that as kid

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:27 PM

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📎 83194480_10162777804195006_2378006259447103488_o.png

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 6:28 PM

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lol

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tru story

scenic radish Jan 14, 2020, 6:29 PM

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M A S H E E N L U R N I N G

north lark Jan 14, 2020, 6:48 PM

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This tool doesn't support threads in channels, does it? Anyone ever thought of moving this to Slack?

wet pilot Jan 14, 2020, 6:49 PM

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will never happen

rain swift Jan 14, 2020, 6:49 PM

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No, but I am not a programmer.

north lark Jan 14, 2020, 6:49 PM

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sad

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 6:49 PM

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would be so many crickets lol

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:55 PM

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woo hoo doorbell should be in the mailbox

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did you install yours yet @forest edge ?

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 6:56 PM

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no i need to pick up a beefier powerthingiemajig

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transformer

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 6:57 PM

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hmm... i bet i might have to as well...

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 6:58 PM

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not sure what the min is but apparently those ring ones suggest a 30va so that's likely what i'll grab

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think what i got now is like a 14-16 or something

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 7:00 PM

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oh shit, i think mine is 14-16 as well

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about to go get it, then i'll start investigating

last dirge Jan 14, 2020, 7:04 PM

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what doorbell did you get?

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 7:05 PM

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amercrest or whatever it is

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thing was 89 bucks, wasn't about to pass it up considering the stupid rca thing i originally looked at went from 100 to 140ish over the course of 1 year

last dirge Jan 14, 2020, 7:07 PM

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local?

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no cloud?

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 7:07 PM

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yea has rtsp

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it does both/can

last dirge Jan 14, 2020, 7:07 PM

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I just have a camera on my porch 🙂

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 7:07 PM

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I have a pi zero in the window currently lol but I wanted something with night vision

urban steppe Jan 14, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Just wanted to say this, don't know where else to put it.

I've been lurking and reading so much in the past few weeks and learned so much by just reading the channels and following links.
I really want to thank the group of regulars that always are ready to help or point in the right direction. Without your help I (and many others with me) wouldn't have the awesome setup I have now! Thanks for your time and patience!! Much appreciated! Love you guys! 👍 👊

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 7:13 PM

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I also would like to relay that sentiment. There's some good people in here

rain swift Jan 14, 2020, 7:14 PM

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I can tell you coming from domoticz, this discord and people who help have made a lot of my stuff possible.

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in domoticz there was hardly anyone around, and the people you did find seemed to all be devs who only asked and answered other devs complicated crap.

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so if you needed help you were pretty SOL. I was in a surveillance cam group with a programmer who used it and he helped me do the little bit of stuff i was doing with it.

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 7:20 PM

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📎 IMG_20200114_132009.jpg

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Now the fun begins

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no way this little chime thing would need 30VAC Sonoma

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instructions don't even say, but imma go try it out

rain swift Jan 14, 2020, 7:23 PM

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saw a video of that

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you most likely will need 30

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GND8RMQ/?coliid=I1D5P7ITR2M3FN&colid=269Z3N7U2YWVE&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 7:24 PM

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oh i guess TO the doorbell, that makes sense

rain swift Jan 14, 2020, 7:24 PM

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that's the one the dude in the video used

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his did weird stuff without it lol

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 7:25 PM

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i'll test mine in a bit at the front

rain swift Jan 14, 2020, 7:25 PM

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I think the one in place was 5va

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 7:25 PM

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the doorbell people said mine was giving too much power, which was the problem... it was basically hanging between the ding and th edong

rain swift Jan 14, 2020, 7:26 PM

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nice

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I have it in an amazon list

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haven't pulled the trigger yet

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 7:34 PM

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I love pixel art so much

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https://v.redd.it/5euokgtc4ra41

Waiting for departure, Me, Digital, 2020

Posted in r/Art by u/aleha_84 • 33,620 points and 478 comments

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 7:39 PM

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i have 21.4 coming to the bell, so hoping it's enough

valid halo Jan 14, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Oh good you got Amcrest and not Ring

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 7:42 PM

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i'd never get a ring

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amcrest came recommended by Sonoma, and i like the look of it

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has a nice heft to it

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chime kit didn't fit in my chime box 😦 but it's pretty small so eventually i'll forget about it

midnight adder Jan 14, 2020, 7:50 PM

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I installed pi hole today. I knew it would be much background tracking, but wtf?

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 7:51 PM

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heh yeah, surprising i'm sure

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so... i thought this came with a microsd card, but i'm wondering if that's even necessary... i'm sure i could trigger off of motion and record directly, right? Or use some other software to manage that?

river rune Jan 14, 2020, 7:53 PM

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Can the Amcrest be battery powered? We don't have doorbell wires in our house and it is a rental so we can't add some.

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 7:55 PM

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@steel urchin you don't need the sdcard, that's just if you want it to store files on the device itself

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 7:55 PM

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right... i was goign to look into motioneye at some point for this

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 7:55 PM

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yea thats what i'll be using with it but the stream could be piped into many things

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I think it comes with a year free of cloud storage as well or something

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 7:56 PM

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meh, don't care about that myself

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storage is cheap

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 7:56 PM

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so if your transfdormer was putting out 24vac that may be enough without needing the 30va dunno

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haven't evven opened the box of mine yet so no idea what all the directions say

sour escarp Jan 14, 2020, 7:59 PM

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using motioneye here, pretty happy with it so far

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Most smart doorbells use 24v ac...

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Because that is what is there for doorbells

clever mortar Jan 14, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Depends on where in the world

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8V AC seems to be pretty normal in the UK

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 8:03 PM

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8v AC

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That was something I've never heard of before

sour escarp Jan 14, 2020, 8:04 PM

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me neither

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Most classic Norwegian doorbells were 4-6 C or D batteries

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Or a transformer that did 18v AC I think it was

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 8:08 PM

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mine is putting out 22vac

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not sure if thats enough

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they just list a generic 16,24,30vvac lol

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guess I can try it and if it's spazes then upgrade lol

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 8:18 PM

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i think the chime kit is just a capacitor inside to get it where it needs and regulate

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 8:23 PM

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yea

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it allows the current to flow around the chime so the thing has power

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since your chime is eseentially a break in the point

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well aside from those that has lighted doorbells so i guess the chime does allow some power through

last dirge Jan 14, 2020, 8:24 PM

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that's not how it works 😉

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 8:25 PM

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it dosen't allow full power through i'd bet my life on it

last dirge Jan 14, 2020, 8:25 PM

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there's voltage going through the bell wires all the time but most of the time it's got resistance from the bulb

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so it's below the threshold to trigger the chime

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when you press the button it's a dead short

tidal bronze Jan 14, 2020, 8:26 PM

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Yep

last dirge Jan 14, 2020, 8:26 PM

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example aqui https://www.cribbstechnologies.com/index.php/home-automation/mqtt-integrated-doorbell/

Cribbs Technologies

admin

MQTT Integrated Doorbell

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on the hardware page there's a picture of a doorbell button I converted to use DC voltage

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I replaced the "grain of wheat" bulb with an LED and a resistor

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then used a voltage divider at the microcontroller to drop it to where the input wasn't floating

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 8:30 PM

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holy shit thats my doorbell button haha

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my light burned out on mine tho lol

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 8:32 PM

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hmmm my chime just is constantly buzzin

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 8:33 PM

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that dude said that what happend when his transformer was too small

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so maybe i'll get a 30vac after all lol

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Yeah might have to, and add caulking around it

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yeah now it's not doing anything

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might have to

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 8:50 PM

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it didn't start smoking did it?

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lol

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the caulking comment has me a little worried with your ability to handle tools hehe

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honey i fixed the hole i made! https://cdn.instructables.com/FO7/6IOR/GZUB3T73/FO76IORGZUB3T73.LARGE.jpg?auto=webp&&frame=1&width=620&height=620&fit=bounds

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 8:52 PM

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well the mounting plate doesn't fully sit flush with the surface

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so there's like a 1/16" gap around the entire thing

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 8:53 PM

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ah

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use silicone not caulk

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 8:53 PM

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my ability with tools is plenty fine 😛

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yeah, i just call it all caulk

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but yeah, i getcha

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 8:54 PM

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do you have a multimeter?

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curious of those doorbell people measured your transformer right lol

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cause 24vac should have worked fine from what i been reading

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 8:57 PM

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yeah that's how i was testing the 21.4 at the door

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if i short the wires there it works as expected

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with the doorbell attached it does nothing

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it was buzzing for a short bit, but now nothing

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 8:59 PM

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ah

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 9:01 PM

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@forest edge 22V is enough

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 9:02 PM

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thats at the transformer tho

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 9:02 PM

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but for me to test it at the chime i need to short the wires, right?

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 9:02 PM

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if his is buzzing at 21 at the ringer then i don't think 22 will be enough lol

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 9:02 PM

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well now it's not even buzzing

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so yeah i don't think 22 will be enough

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 9:03 PM

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yay subpar wiring

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 9:03 PM

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welp, off to home depot i guess

last dirge Jan 14, 2020, 9:06 PM

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yay for no standardization

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 9:09 PM

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well to be fair when doorbells came out noone expected there to be camera ran off the juice lol

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 9:11 PM

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@forest edge not an excuse

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always plan for the future

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 9:12 PM

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yea i don't think hippies planned that far ahead back when all this crap became common

hearty depot Jan 14, 2020, 9:14 PM

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lol - my not yet complete Zigbee2mqtt network map

📎 unknown.png

young sigil Jan 14, 2020, 9:14 PM

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@last dirge More of a Rohde and Schwarz fan but very difficult to justify the expense for hobby use.

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 9:16 PM

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wtf is that the matrix 2.0

last dirge Jan 14, 2020, 9:16 PM

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@young sigil I ordered the parts to breadboard that circuit

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I'll know soon if it works or not

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Yeah I mean, it sorta worked for a bit with the previous setup. It'd occasionally hang and buzz

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📎 JPEG_20200114_152828.jpg

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Here we go

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 9:30 PM

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@steel urchin ran acorss this https://support.amcrest.com/hc/en-us/articles/360038058591-Chime-Compatibility-List-for-Amcrest-Wi-Fi-Doorbell-AD110- yours on the list? do you evven know what it is?

inner vault Jan 14, 2020, 9:31 PM

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I need to figure out my doorbell, the transformer is sitting on top of my breaker panel, but the wires from it go directly into the back of the panel and I'm pretty sure it's literally mounted without a breaker associated with it, like pushed into the channels that the breakers clip into - there's also no voltage coming out of it

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 9:32 PM

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I'm pretty sure it's literally mounted without a breaker associated with it, like pushed into the channels that the breakers clip into

ew

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what home depot charge for that transformer codex?

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 9:34 PM

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I don't know what it is, but for the most part simple mechanical doorbells arebthr same really

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 9:34 PM

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curious if i should pop over to amazon lol

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 9:34 PM

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19 +tax

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 9:34 PM

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thats not bad

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 9:40 PM

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So just seeing your messages Brian, that's what I was thinking. Measured at the transformer and it's the same so no loss on the wire, but yeah gonna try this 30va.

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 9:47 PM

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oh hell ya, adguard home got some massive updates

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pixelserv-tls here I come

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for anyone interested https://hub.docker.com/r/imthai/pixelserv-tls

last dirge Jan 14, 2020, 9:51 PM

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does that work any better than pihole?

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 10:03 PM

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I thought about doing the pihole thing, but tomato has a similar function built in

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 10:03 PM

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@last dirge a lot better

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 10:04 PM

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too lazy to block ads

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 10:04 PM

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It checks if DNS responses contain any blacklisted IP addresses or CNAME records, and blocks DNS queries if there are any

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Ah I see, instead of putting to 0.0.0.0 it'll actually respond with a pixel

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 10:05 PM

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aka disguised trackers

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and yes, that will shrink down areas of empty space

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 10:05 PM

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just give them your data and view thier spam.. livve life alittle

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Timeouts go bye bye

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 10:06 PM

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they have little children who need bread on the table too you know

inner vault Jan 14, 2020, 10:06 PM

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I thought pixelsrv-tls worked in conjunction with pihole

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 10:06 PM

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@inner vault yes but adguard has disguised trackers blocking

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and no need to use other software for DOT or DOH

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 10:09 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/kJBjUss.jpg

Imgur

I keep making the same mistake

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😂

river rune Jan 14, 2020, 10:10 PM

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2 weeks later WTF was I thinking here?

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Two weeks? Aren't you the optimist

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mindblown

river rune Jan 14, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Sorry 2 hours later

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 10:11 PM

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2 months rather Yikes

river rune Jan 14, 2020, 10:11 PM

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lol

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true

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I meant 2 hours later you would forget what you were doing...

clear ferry Jan 14, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Wait

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What are we talking about?

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😂

river rune Jan 14, 2020, 10:12 PM

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blobshrug

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 10:12 PM

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what do you mean by leave work undocumented? you mean not clocking out?

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norwat to engrish plz

river rune Jan 14, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Apparently some people actually put these things called comments in their code... But they must be rare because I don't see them very often. 😉

last dirge Jan 14, 2020, 10:13 PM

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@brisk glen that's what pihole does too

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 10:13 PM

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ah

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 10:13 PM

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does it now?

last dirge Jan 14, 2020, 10:14 PM

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yes

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it resolves the DNS request to its own IP

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and 404s everything

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 10:14 PM

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they finaly updated it to have built in DoH and DoT?

last dirge Jan 14, 2020, 10:15 PM

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what?

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 10:16 PM

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dns over https or dns over tls

last dirge Jan 14, 2020, 10:17 PM

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oh, I don't know

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it's the primary DNS server for my network

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blocks a SHITLOAD of traffic

river rune Jan 14, 2020, 10:18 PM

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If you are using DNS over TLS then PiHole would have to keep a list of IP addresses, not just domain names

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And it would have to reroute the actual packets instead of just change the DNS response

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 10:18 PM

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reading backlog changes

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nope

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Whew it gets hot up there

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📎 IMG_20200114_151335.jpg

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📎 IMG_20200114_162255.jpg

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Out with the old, in with the new

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Lol ok, still no ding dong.. must have something I need to enable in the app

hushed basalt Jan 14, 2020, 10:29 PM

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6 30 and baby is still asleep

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How strange

last dirge Jan 14, 2020, 10:29 PM

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nothing says "great idea" like exposed electrical contacts in cellulose

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 10:29 PM

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I get a ding when I short it, has to be the unit not enabling the mechanical chime... Skybell has the same thing

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Lol but I can't get this damn qr screen to focus

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 10:30 PM

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@last dirge low voltage is acceptable lol

last dirge Jan 14, 2020, 10:30 PM

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it's 30VAC

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 10:30 PM

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still considered low

hushed basalt Jan 14, 2020, 10:31 PM

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240v is considered low

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 10:31 PM

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so is 600v to some

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as they smoke

hushed basalt Jan 14, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Anything under 1000v AC I'm pretty sure

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 10:32 PM

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@steel urchin in the video he said he had to switch the setting in the app from mechanical to digital to make the mechanical chime work lol

hushed basalt Jan 14, 2020, 10:32 PM

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The word you're looking for is extra low voltage

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Yeah I figured... But for some reason this app will not focus at all. Camera apis fine

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 10:35 PM

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i feel older with the fact that he had done all this and I don't think i left my chair once lol

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Ok all is good

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Working like a champ

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And the video looks great

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 10:46 PM

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was it the digital option?

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or what

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for the chime to work

last dirge Jan 14, 2020, 10:48 PM

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I hate javascript

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 10:48 PM

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yeah digital

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it's so disgustingly hot and humid out

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thermostat says it's 79% humidity in the house :S

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what's wrong brian ... i can prolly help with that

amber bramble Jan 14, 2020, 10:49 PM

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ok ubuntu folks, how on earth do I disable going to sleep when the system is running on battery with the lid closed

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 10:50 PM

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https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/power-closelid.html.en

amber bramble Jan 14, 2020, 10:50 PM

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my HA install is on an old laptop that I keep the lid closed on and any time there's a power outage it automatically goes into sleep mode no matter how full the battery is

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Soo many ways

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@amber bramble https://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/04/how12691/how-to-disable-sleep-and-configure-lid-power-settings-for-ubuntu-or-red-hat-enterprise-linux-7?lang=en

amber bramble Jan 14, 2020, 10:52 PM

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i've tried like 4 different things over the past year and nothing has made a difference :[

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but its been long enough that I forget what I've tried 🤣

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 10:53 PM

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sounds like a bios thing

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 10:53 PM

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“sudo systemctl mask sleep.target suspend.target hibernate.target hybrid-sleep.target”

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The bios has nothing to do with this....

amber bramble Jan 14, 2020, 10:53 PM

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already did the HandleLidSwitch=ignore trick

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Yah, that stops the lid thing

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 10:54 PM

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the bios most certian can have something to do with this lol

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 10:54 PM

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You want to disable suspend

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@forest edge this is Linux :p

amber bramble Jan 14, 2020, 10:54 PM

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downside is I would actually like it to suspend if the battery gets down to like 30% or something

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but it just auto suspends

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 10:54 PM

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i don't care if it was ronald mcdonal os

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Ahhh

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@amber bramble I need all of the scope requirements

amber bramble Jan 14, 2020, 10:55 PM

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though TBH maybe its better to just do a graceful shutdown when the battery gets low

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Yah..... you would need to script that or do something else, that’s not systemd area

amber bramble Jan 14, 2020, 10:56 PM

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eh ill just turn it off all together

rain swift Jan 14, 2020, 10:56 PM

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can an echo show be used as a digital picture frame?

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or is anyone using one as that.

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 10:57 PM

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https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/84437/how-do-i-make-my-laptop-sleep-when-it-reaches-some-low-battery-threshold

Unix & Linux Stack Exchange

How do I make my laptop sleep when it reaches some low battery thr...

I'm using Ubuntu, but I have i3 as my window manager instead of a desktop environment.

When my battery reaches 0%, the computer will just abruptly shut down, no warning or anything.

Is there a si...

rain swift Jan 14, 2020, 10:57 PM

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wife wants a picture frame but they are all like $150 and we already have some echos.

amber bramble Jan 14, 2020, 10:57 PM

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linux power management is less than great

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Get a cheap android tablet for $50?

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Yah..... it’s all over the god dam place

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Why I gave up for a NUC

rain swift Jan 14, 2020, 10:58 PM

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actually, I have a kindle I'm not really using, I need to see if it has a picture frame app though, also forgot how much space it has.

amber bramble Jan 14, 2020, 10:58 PM

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i think almost all of the kindle fires can be rooted now

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 10:59 PM

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@rain swift google > https://www.the-ambient.com/how-to/create-photo-slideshow-amazon-echo-show-spot-1711

The Ambient

How to use the Amazon Echo Show as a digital photo frame

Want to make the most of your Echo Show's screen? Learn how to add your Facebook photos and more.

amber bramble Jan 14, 2020, 10:59 PM

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and even if not you can install google play

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 10:59 PM

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thats what hassbot needs

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a google command

velvet horizonBOT Jan 14, 2020, 10:59 PM

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:point_up: Let me Google that for you...

Here , try this:
http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=how+to+use+echo+show+as+digital+photo+frame

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 10:59 PM

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thats not the same

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 10:59 PM

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Not just any google command.. a lmgtfy

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Hahaha

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 11:00 PM

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actually i dislike that one they havve for that

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 11:00 PM

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lol i wonder if this doorbell would have worked fine on the old transformer

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since it required an app config anyway

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 11:00 PM

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lol

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now you'll always wonder

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I might try mine before swapping out the transformer just so you can live in peace

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 11:01 PM

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meh... i don't care... $20 was cheap

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Finally got around to running my own ipv6 dns server at home

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Now I need to set up the firewall for ipv6 :/

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 11:02 PM

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your gonna cry if your house ever gets struck by lightning

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 11:02 PM

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Why?

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 11:03 PM

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cause you got so much shit you'll have to resetup lol

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Like replace a backup battery or 2?

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 11:03 PM

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you think lightning will only effect the batteries?

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 11:03 PM

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works fine for me

📎 VID_20200114_164406_1.webm

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 11:03 PM

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And it’s not like I don’t have an ansible playbook for this or anything

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It’s supposed to protect the gear from that :p

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 11:04 PM

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lol that dog bark at the end was priceless

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 11:04 PM

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hehe he's been going bonkers over all my testing

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at least with the 30vac in there i can swap out without having to be concerned

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 11:05 PM

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The controller for the firewall shit lives else where :p

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 11:05 PM

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@brisk glen I've seen lighting melt a bed frame from a socket 3ft away.. i wouldn't bank on anything saving anything lol

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 11:06 PM

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@forest edge well... I guess then it’s new gear, restore from backup and update my ansible inventory before redeploying

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 11:07 PM

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hurts my back just thinking about it

brisk glen Jan 14, 2020, 11:07 PM

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I kinda hope now that there is a strike so I can upgrade some gear :p

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It would be wife approved

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It’s just a simple plug the new shit in, ssh and give it the server to adopt to and the rest is automated for the most part

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Fix nas and pxe the rest

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 11:10 PM

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ok so the app is pretty decent... lets you set motion distance (kept triggering from across the street!) and the area to search for motion

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 11:12 PM

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yea i won't be using the app lol

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other than initial setup

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just give me rtsp and i'll be good to go

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 11:14 PM

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yeah i need to still figure that out, but leave town early tomorrow morning and need to do other shit

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at least it's up and running

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 11:15 PM

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damn now i guess tomorrow i should install mine

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 11:16 PM

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yeah do it so you can help me with mine later 😉

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 11:20 PM

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cloud based oses 🤢

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 11:22 PM

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?

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 11:23 PM

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was watching a vvideo on alternative oses for 2020 and one of them was called friend or something which was a cloud based os

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everything was driven through html5 and js lol

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 11:24 PM

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hmm one thing that's weird is you create an account via the app, but it doesn't work at all on their website

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 11:26 PM

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some overseas companies have what they call "international" login for services such as apps that are not directly tied to their individual country websites

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I have a few like that

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 11:27 PM

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errr so how do you do the cloud bs? I enabled it in the app, it said go to the site.. no workie

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 11:27 PM

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wow jennifer love hewitt did not age well

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no idea don't have it loaded

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 11:28 PM

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king of random over here lol

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 11:28 PM

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did you watch the video on the doorbell? he walks you through the app

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sortof lol

last dirge Jan 14, 2020, 11:28 PM

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JLH is a babe

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 11:29 PM

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was

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 11:29 PM

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doorbell is working fine... i'm trying to check out the website

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which video do you keep referring to?

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 11:31 PM

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the one you watched 10 seconds before purchasing it from amazon lol

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https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/397426163649216512/665457222276481044

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but you said website so the video dosen't apply

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 11:33 PM

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you're assuming i watched that lol

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 11:34 PM

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you said you did

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https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/397426163649216512/665462228518043679 i mean how else would you know it was "nice" lol

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 11:35 PM

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the amazon link above it was what i was referring to 😛

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 11:35 PM

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lol

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 11:37 PM

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ahh so that's what the secondary password was for... the rtsp stream

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it just asked for a password for the doorbell, and i'm like " i just created an account, what do you want another password for?"

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Lol called amcrest to ask about website login, and he wanted to take remote access of my pc

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Lol yeah right

rain swift Jan 14, 2020, 11:51 PM

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do it

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 11:52 PM

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no way... he didn't even know what iw as talking about anyway

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so i hungup

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 11:52 PM

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lmao

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wtf

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 11:52 PM

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anyway... guess this thing doesn't support viewing remotely

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 11:52 PM

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remote access

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 11:52 PM

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so i'll have to figure out the rtsp stuff later

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 11:52 PM

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what do you mean?

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the app is the remotely lol

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 11:52 PM

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i mean off my network

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like on my data plan on my phone

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 11:53 PM

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thats the app

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 11:53 PM

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it errors every time 🤷‍♀️

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 11:53 PM

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if you want to view by pc you'd havve to pipe the rtsp feed out

rain swift Jan 14, 2020, 11:53 PM

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port forwarding

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 11:53 PM

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you got a setting screwy or something

rain swift Jan 14, 2020, 11:53 PM

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make a DNS name that points to an install IP on the LAN, and your public IP on the WAN

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internal*

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app don't know the difference

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 11:54 PM

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there's no pointing to an ip anywhere in the app, so that's a futile exercise

rain swift Jan 14, 2020, 11:54 PM

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junk

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lol

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 11:54 PM

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ok finally worked after 20 tries

rain swift Jan 14, 2020, 11:54 PM

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so its using their server as a proxy? no thanks.

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 11:54 PM

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maybe the dude remotely took control of your phone haha

rain swift Jan 14, 2020, 11:55 PM

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the chinese are watching you touch yourself.

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 11:55 PM

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lol

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yeah that's why this is only temporary

rain swift Jan 14, 2020, 11:55 PM

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my cams cant talk to the internet

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 11:55 PM

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most off the shelf doorbell cameras work that way

rain swift Jan 14, 2020, 11:55 PM

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because its an easy way for dummies to see the cam remotely without doing any setup

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 11:56 PM

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anyway, it's working, only ~4s delay which isn't bad

rain swift Jan 14, 2020, 11:56 PM

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woohoo

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 11:56 PM

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it'll let me hopefully answer when i'm away

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 11:56 PM

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wait

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4second delay?

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to the app?

steel urchin Jan 14, 2020, 11:56 PM

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yeah, when on my 4g

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 11:56 PM

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while ons ame network there should be next to no delay

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oh

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even still

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4 seconds sound a bit much

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maybe they are being flooded with evveryone buying the dmn thing lol

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I mean it is currently the cheapiest doorbell cam with the features

hushed basalt Jan 14, 2020, 11:57 PM

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You'll need digest auth

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To access the rtsp

river rune Jan 14, 2020, 11:57 PM

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Just a standard RF doorbell usually has ~1 second delay (at least all the ones I have had 3-4 different brands)

rain swift Jan 14, 2020, 11:58 PM

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I don't wanna talk to people or have a doorbell, I just want to see.

forest edge Jan 14, 2020, 11:58 PM

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@steel urchin for you, be best for you to go ahead and use https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/amcrest/ with it

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make your life alittle easier

steel urchin Jan 15, 2020, 12:00 AM

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I'm not sure which route I'll be taking. I don't have much need for anything complex, so I'll be taking a look at everything soon enough. But glad it's working at all right now.

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pulls up in VLC just fine as well 🙂

forest edge Jan 15, 2020, 12:09 AM

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aren't you using the ha app?

steel urchin Jan 15, 2020, 12:09 AM

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yeah i'm just toying with things

forest edge Jan 15, 2020, 12:09 AM

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I thought you had your crap setup to access ha outside your network

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ah yea then install the motioneye addon

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and pipe it in there

steel urchin Jan 15, 2020, 12:10 AM

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i don't run hassio

forest edge Jan 15, 2020, 12:10 AM

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then presto you got access remoetly lol

steel urchin Jan 15, 2020, 12:10 AM

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but... still...

forest edge Jan 15, 2020, 12:10 AM

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oh thats right

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haha

steel urchin Jan 15, 2020, 12:10 AM

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i sorta have it remotely accessible... i need to toy with port forwarding since i don't have NAT loopback

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that has been a serious PITA

forest edge Jan 15, 2020, 12:10 AM

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you can install motioneye on it's own on the same machine

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and then use that

steel urchin Jan 15, 2020, 12:11 AM

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i'm talkin about with HA

forest edge Jan 15, 2020, 12:11 AM

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i know

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then you pipe the feed from the motioneye into ha

steel urchin Jan 15, 2020, 12:11 AM

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i have another service running 443 already so i need to map out my ports properly

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or go update all my alexa skills to point to a different port

forest edge Jan 15, 2020, 12:12 AM

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actually just using the amercrest intergration would be your easist by far method of getting the feed into ha

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but you wouldn't have any nvr with that

steel urchin Jan 15, 2020, 12:12 AM

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right, and i kinda want that because we've been having issues with our postal worker

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i wanna record her being a POS

forest edge Jan 15, 2020, 12:12 AM

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then install motioneye on the same machine > your next project lool

steel urchin Jan 15, 2020, 12:13 AM

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yep... but still i need to figure the port thing out...

hushed basalt Jan 15, 2020, 12:13 AM

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Reverse proxy?

steel urchin Jan 15, 2020, 12:14 AM

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for example, i have dnsmasq pointing to my internal IP for my domain, but internally it's listening on 8123... router is forwarding 443->8123, but NAT loopback missing that doesn't work... so internally i need to also run on 443, except i have nginx already listening on 443 so that won't work just yet without proxying

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like i said, i gotta figure out how i want it

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or i can j ust run HA on 8123 over ssl but then i have a lot of other crap to update

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it's just somethin i gotta work through, not ready to dive into that.. i have a house to clean since the wife is on the way home!