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boreal pewter Dec 20, 2019, 12:21 PM

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Well you said how much you pay in murican currency

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So the assumption was there

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 12:25 PM

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freedomcurrency!

boreal pewter Dec 20, 2019, 12:26 PM

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MCU - murican currency!

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Trumpbucks!

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Hey man, got some Trumps for me?

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 1:15 PM

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https://open.spotify.com/track/1Y1c5pG23iZ6LK4sWU7OcV?si=qoTOo3c_TBiO2V1HBLvX-A

Spotify

Fairytale of New York

Fairytale of New York, a song by Katzenjammer on Spotify

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 1:18 PM

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@boreal pewter Trump has been im🍑ed

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Still not out of office tho

clear mirage Dec 20, 2019, 1:19 PM

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can only hope though, but then we get Pence

boreal pewter Dec 20, 2019, 1:20 PM

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Never forget who got him in there

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 1:32 PM

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📎 PicsArt_12-20-02.32.34.jpg

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Merry Xmas

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My winning costume

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The wled hat wasn't very visible though

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https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/444529271806099486/657519928055955470

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 1:47 PM

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@boreal pewter not me lol. I voted third party

boreal pewter Dec 20, 2019, 1:47 PM

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^^

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 1:47 PM

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feel the Johnson

boreal pewter Dec 20, 2019, 1:48 PM

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But honestly I feel you.

hushed basalt Dec 20, 2019, 2:02 PM

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I just watched Joker

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I liked it

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 2:11 PM

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Fetched it in 4k yesterday, but need to find time during Christmas 😂

clear mirage Dec 20, 2019, 2:25 PM

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So who here is pretty decent at templating?

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 2:33 PM

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Someone over at #330944238910963714

inner vault Dec 20, 2019, 3:42 PM

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https://github.com/xssfox/bigbuckaws

GitHub

xssfox/bigbuckaws

Contribute to xssfox/bigbuckaws development by creating an account on GitHub.

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AWS lets us upload 75GB of Lambda functions. Each function can be 50MB in size. We simply split up the video into Lambda functions. There's a few problems with this though, first off Lambda only allows zip files. How do we get around this, we zip up the video.

strange vapor Dec 20, 2019, 4:06 PM

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@inner vaultIf people started abusing that it would screw over the Lambda team badly! Everything is charged internally within AWS so they're paying for bandwidth usage internally!

inner vault Dec 20, 2019, 4:09 PM

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Not advocating it, simply an interesting POC

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Also free google nest/home minis for GoogleMusic/Youtube premium subscribers in Canada https://i.imgur.com/X4nZlf8.png

Imgur

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that I am advocating, also free shipping which the "Google One" free minis did not have

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 4:37 PM

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Free stuff

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That doesn't exist in Norway 😛

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 4:38 PM

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Norwat*

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 4:39 PM

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angryboi

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https://i.redd.it/si60s1lyis541.jpg

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 4:44 PM

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I refuse to believe this is true but hope it is

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 4:46 PM

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The Welsh are Celts, Celts are weird

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 4:46 PM

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There is a Welsh guy here somewhere

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His handle escapes me

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 4:46 PM

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Just ping randoms until you find him

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 4:47 PM

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@pure vine can you confirm?

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 4:47 PM

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Ya'll were here when I tagged @everybody?

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 4:47 PM

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😂

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 4:47 PM

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I think so

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 4:47 PM

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That's been disabled for some reason 🤔

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 4:47 PM

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Wonder why

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 4:47 PM

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It caused me a lot of laughter

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 4:47 PM

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That's the first thing I mute when I join a server

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 4:47 PM

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I mean, yes, it was bad, but damn... funny

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 4:49 PM

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Just changed that now, thank you @unreal orbit lol

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I saw a ping in digiblurDIY yesterday and was very confused until I saw it was one of those...

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Then I was sad that I wasn't actually wanted 😭

pure vine Dec 20, 2019, 4:58 PM

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@clear ferry not Welsh, but family is, but the family is Christian so haven't really been exposed to Welsh pagan traditions.

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 4:58 PM

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Nobody wants you @scenic radish sad

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@pure vine dang my bad!😂

pure vine Dec 20, 2019, 4:58 PM

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http://www.folkwales.org.uk/mari.html

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It is a thing

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What's really interesting is that a lot of these traditions are quite recent (that is releitve to the existence of Wales), this is because during the era where Wales was taken by England and the Victorian era, the Welsh culture was quite heavily suppressed. A lot of the traditions we see now are from the late 1800s where a society of Welsh people who wanted to give the Welsh an identity again

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Here is an example of some of the suppression that the English did towards the Welsh https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_Not

Welsh Not

The Welsh Not (also Welsh Knot, Welsh Note, Welsh Stick, Welsh Lead or Cwstom) was an item used in Welsh schools in the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries to stigmatise and punish children using the Welsh language.

Typically The Not was a piece of wood, a ruler or a stick, often ...

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 5:07 PM

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Well, we're into politics now 😉

pure vine Dec 20, 2019, 5:07 PM

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Historical politics

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And important context for the traditions

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 5:07 PM

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(but yes, every conqueror has stomped all over those they conquered)

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Speaking as a Scot... we too have issues with our immediately Southern neighbours

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 5:09 PM

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They may take our automations, but they'll never take our scriiiiiiiiiipts

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Yikes

strange vapor Dec 20, 2019, 5:21 PM

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Isn't Wales just a provence of England?

brisk glen Dec 20, 2019, 6:10 PM

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Oh man, Zwave is opening up everything

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Finally, we can soon have redundancy

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 6:37 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/its-happening-gif-11730504

Tenor

wet pilot Dec 20, 2019, 7:03 PM

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they definitely had to do something

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hopefully it won't lead to compatibility issues between devices/radios

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 7:18 PM

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It will

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Now that you mentioned it

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https://open.spotify.com/track/6xq3Bd7MvZVa7pda9tC4MW?si=pB4Pnrx1RYSjG3PhVtPnSg

Spotify

The Handler

The Handler, a song by Muse on Spotify

strange vapor Dec 20, 2019, 7:25 PM

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What's happening with ZWave?

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 7:26 PM

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Scroll up, a lot 😛

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Or see the pinned messages in #zwave-archived

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 7:31 PM

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📎 JPEG_20191220_203145.jpg

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The Norwegian Christmas marzipan pig

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🤤

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 7:32 PM

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Damn

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 7:32 PM

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It says big.... But we have bigger ones

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 7:32 PM

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😮

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 7:32 PM

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This is only 200g

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I've seen atleast 1kg

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 7:33 PM

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Large Marzipan Pig 200g

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Not sure that 200g == large

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 7:33 PM

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Well, you will feel full after half of it

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 7:33 PM

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I have found a local supplier of them though...

light trout Dec 20, 2019, 7:33 PM

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I won one at 2,5kg once, has not eaten it after that

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 7:33 PM

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Bookmarked for next year

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 7:33 PM

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📎 JPEG_20191220_203336.jpg

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I prefer these though

light trout Dec 20, 2019, 7:34 PM

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Those are nice

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 7:34 PM

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📎 JPEG_20191220_203422.jpg

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These are also nice

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I'll ship you one next year if you want @clever mortar 😂

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 7:36 PM

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Turns out I can get them near my London office, and I'm always there just before Christmas

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Next year I'll be taking a detour 😄

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Marzipan is a weakness of mine

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(and by next year, I mean January...)

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 7:37 PM

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Then you can regret not accepting my offer of a Christmas present 😛

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 7:37 PM

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I can

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Oh well

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 7:37 PM

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@unreal orbit will confirm 😂

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 7:37 PM

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I'll have to find some suitable local (shippable) delicacy to send you

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Deep fried mars bars don't travel well 😛

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 7:38 PM

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🪐

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close enough

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 7:38 PM

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Scottish people don't travel well angryboi

light trout Dec 20, 2019, 7:38 PM

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Sounds american

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 7:38 PM

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Scots travel really well - you'll find us all over the world

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Not as many places as the Irish - I don't think I've been anywhere I've not found an Irish pub 🤔

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 7:39 PM

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But you don't fornicate like rabbits

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 7:39 PM

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i'll send you some bud light

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 7:39 PM

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Like the Irish 😛

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 7:39 PM

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🤣

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Bud light 🤔 is that another name for flavoured water?

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 7:40 PM

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90% of the us population will have Irish genes because the Irish can't stop....

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@strange vapor will verify 😛

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If you are like me you'll enjoy these a lot @clever mortar https://images.app.goo.gl/hBFJHeVXX2nhEToZ8

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 7:43 PM

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Yes, yes I do

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We have a version of those here too, and I have to limit myself to one at a time

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One box at a time

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 7:44 PM

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I won four boxes at the office Christmas party last year

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They lasted 3 days 😂

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 7:44 PM

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😂

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 7:54 PM

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⚠️🍒🍒🍒🍒🍒🍒🍒🍒⚠️

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 7:58 PM

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damnit I wish I bought more tesla

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it's up over 100% from when I bought

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 7:59 PM

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yeah same

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all my pot stocks are down 60% 🥴

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 8:00 PM

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I only bought $1000 worth

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wish I bought 10x

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oh well

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 8:02 PM

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sry

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i'll take it off your hands if it would make you feel better

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no charge

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 8:10 PM

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damn you for making me look at my account

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now i'm sad

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 8:16 PM

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I'm awarded shares in the company every year

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I still need to figure out how to sell them

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Think I have shares for $17k or something ThonkEyes

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 8:17 PM

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So... new car downpayment then 😛

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 8:18 PM

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Something like that 😛

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If the shares rise though, that might be more interesting ThinkEyes

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 8:19 PM

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So... typical shares piece. Hold on to them until just before the company catches fire

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 8:19 PM

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what is "the company"?

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 8:19 PM

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CIA 🤔 ?

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 8:20 PM

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I'm great company

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Even though I'm a dick

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 8:20 PM

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my buddy's wife works for Apple.. she literally flies country to country to hand deliver marketing materials when a new p roduct comes out... probably the easiest job at the company

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they have over 4.5 million in stocks

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half her payment is in stocks

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so every year she gets about 80+k in stocks, and of course they just keep growing and growing

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they're both mid 30's, about to retire.. so jealous 😛

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 8:22 PM

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Paid in stocks ThinkEyes

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That sounds so American

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And so 80s

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 8:23 PM

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mmm maybe american, definitely not 80's

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a very common practice today still

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especially in startups

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 8:23 PM

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Apple, startup ThonkEyes

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 8:24 PM

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especially in startups

not the same as "only in startups"

inner vault Dec 20, 2019, 8:24 PM

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where 99% of the time it's worth less than the ec2 instance it's hosted on

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 8:24 PM

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No, but it sounded weird anyway 😛

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 8:24 PM

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most startups don't have the funds to hire, so they offer equity in the company

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 8:25 PM

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Yeah, that is so strange for anyone outside the us 😛

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 8:25 PM

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i mean how else do you start a company without money? How do you get people to work for you if you can't pay them immediately?

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pretty much every company you can name off the top of your head started that way

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including apple lol

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 8:26 PM

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Not Norwegian ones

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 8:26 PM

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well i can't name one norwegian company

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 8:26 PM

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i only know Norwatian companies

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 8:27 PM

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@inner vault t1.micro

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 8:27 PM

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it's probably more common than you think... it's literally the basis of business since business started

inner vault Dec 20, 2019, 8:28 PM

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@last dirge still holds true 😄

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 8:28 PM

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"i have nothing to give, you get partial ownership"

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 8:28 PM

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free tier

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I was a 15% owner in my startup

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but I made sure I got paid too

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which is good since the startup shit the bed

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 8:29 PM

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Most companies that I know of that have started will get full payment from the bank including pay for employees

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I have three childhood friends who started companies

inner vault Dec 20, 2019, 8:29 PM

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yeah, I don't think I've heard of anyone working for equity alone, equity in unvested startups can't pay for rent or groceries

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 8:29 PM

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🤷

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 8:29 PM

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oh it definitely happens, a lot

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 8:29 PM

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In America, sure

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Europe, never heard of

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 8:29 PM

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well i can speak from experience, yes, and in other countries

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 8:30 PM

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I'm self-employed

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 8:30 PM

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Pay + Ownership isn't unknown over here (UK)

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 8:30 PM

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the best of both worlds

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lets me do fun things for retirement planning

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 8:30 PM

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Both I have heard of, only equity, never

inner vault Dec 20, 2019, 8:31 PM

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when I worked for a startup there were massive government (Quebec/Canada) incentives to hire tech talent, so like 90% of all employees salaries at the startup were paid for by government bursaries, there were even startups spawned specifically to help businesses apply for these credits

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 8:32 PM

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Yeah, I've heard of that over here too

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 8:33 PM

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i don't believe that's a thing here... i mean with the bailout issue we had some years back everyone here is anti-socialism

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even democratic-socialism

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 8:33 PM

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where's "here"?

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 8:33 PM

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america

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you can get grants, but you basically don't own it at that point

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the gov't gets first rights to your products

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 8:33 PM

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The US, Canada is also America 😉

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 8:34 PM

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there were bailout issues THIS year

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 8:34 PM

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no, canada is on the continent North America

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 8:34 PM

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except those weren't loans

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and won't be paid back like the auto bailouts

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lol, party parrot

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 8:34 PM

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when people say america, i'd put money on it no one is ever talking about canada or mexico 🤣

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or brazil

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or anything other than USA

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 8:35 PM

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That's very American of you 🙂

inner vault Dec 20, 2019, 8:35 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_Research_and_Experimental_Development_Tax_Credit_Program

Scientific Research and Experimental Development Tax Credit Program

The Canadian Scientific Research and Experimental Development Tax Incentive Program (SRED or SR&ED) provides support in the form of tax credits and/or refunds, to corporations, partnerships or individuals who conduct scientific research or experimental development in Canada.

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 8:36 PM

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We were taught about the Americas when I grew up

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As in all of it

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 8:36 PM

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as continents

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we're talking about countries

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as in, governing bodies

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you can't conflate the two and have a valid conversation

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heh anyway, this is why you don't talk politics 😛

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 8:38 PM

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That's not even politics, it's geography 🤣

wet pilot Dec 20, 2019, 8:38 PM

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the distinction for me is usually "America" or "Americas"

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 8:39 PM

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I was just messing anyway, I'm Californian

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 8:39 PM

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well, it was turned into geography, the originating conversation was governmental attributions towards funding startups 😛 then somehow semantics got tossed out the window and the convo turned to what do you call america

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but aside, the point is, these folks have a shit ton in apple stock and i'm jealous 🤣

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even though i hate apple

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 8:40 PM

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I used to hate Apple, now I will just say I hate some things that Apple does

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 8:40 PM

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apple's pricing on things is asinine

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especially the ipod touch

wet pilot Dec 20, 2019, 8:41 PM

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i don't hate the company, i hate the fanboys

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the customers that enable them to do the dumb stuff they do

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their prices wouldn't be as high if people didn't blindly pay them

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 8:42 PM

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Yeah, I have a customer we're they just order 50 of the biggest iPhone as soon as it comes out

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Same Day

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 8:42 PM

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One of the reasons their prices are high is due to their privacy policies. They aren't subsidizing their prices by selling literally all of your information that they possibly can

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 8:42 PM

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hahaha

wet pilot Dec 20, 2019, 8:42 PM

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rofl no

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 8:42 PM

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i don't believe that at all

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 8:42 PM

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how 'bout that monitor stand?

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why the hell is that a grand?

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 8:43 PM

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I said "one of the reasons", obviously some of their BS is just cash grabbing

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 8:43 PM

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privacy policy

wet pilot Dec 20, 2019, 8:43 PM

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its all cash grabbing

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 8:44 PM

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🤷 you are allowed to think that

wet pilot Dec 20, 2019, 8:44 PM

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none of the other HW manufacturers get any PII to sell

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 8:44 PM

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well you should read the privacy policy

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because they are 1000% selling your data

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to every person they're in bed with

wet pilot Dec 20, 2019, 8:45 PM

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i mean, its smart cash grabbing, but its all cash grabbing

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they've spent a ton of time developing an image that convinces people that paying way more for their product is a good thing

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its all marketing

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 8:47 PM

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I bought a Thinkpad that stomped the dogshit out of the Macbook pro specs at the time for like $1000 less

wet pilot Dec 20, 2019, 8:47 PM

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and it actually performed to those specs too 😛

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 8:47 PM

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yeah

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I still use it today

wet pilot Dec 20, 2019, 8:48 PM

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"Form over Function" has killed any specs that apple advertises

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 8:48 PM

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I bought an external GPU adapter for it a few months ago

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it plays Rust 🙂

wet pilot Dec 20, 2019, 8:48 PM

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their laptops are dogshite for cooling

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 8:48 PM

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yep

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I bought a 2nd gen macbook pro

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 8:48 PM

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the one thing i haven't appreciated about my chromebook until recently is that while it has a fan, it rarely turns on and i haven't really seen the CPU temp go above 100 F

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 8:49 PM

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it cooked its own logic board after like 2 years

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 8:49 PM

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of course, it has an i3 and is not stressed by any means lol

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 8:49 PM

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I'm a software developer so I use the shit out of the CPU 🙂

wet pilot Dec 20, 2019, 8:49 PM

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yeah, if you run anything other than MacOS on them they hit thermal throttling pretty hard. they undervolt things to try to keep the temps down

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same

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only reason i have a mac for work is it was the best available hardware out of what i was offered by IT

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plus, we develop a product that runs in containers and doing that in windows is a hard pass 😛

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 8:51 PM

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sounds like something else i know...

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can't quite place my finger on what it is

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almost like... discussing it is forbidden here

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 8:52 PM

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For the record I was thinking strictly in terms of mobile, I've always thought their computer hardware was overpriced for no discernable reason

fallow galleon Dec 20, 2019, 8:53 PM

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well the build is quite good

wet pilot Dec 20, 2019, 8:53 PM

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their mobile is just as bad to be honest

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the adoption numbers have been lagging lately but their revenues haven't dropped because they keep raising the prices

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there's a reckoning coming for that

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 8:53 PM

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Samsung has been doing the same thing with their prices

wet pilot Dec 20, 2019, 8:54 PM

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same problem there

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 8:54 PM

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the next bubble, next to student loans/tuition prices

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although not quite the same concept

wet pilot Dec 20, 2019, 8:54 PM

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https://giphy.com/gifs/snl-saturday-night-live-season-45-lTB6FKY1fmAZhhv1En

Giphy

Saturday Night Live

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^ student loans

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 8:54 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-5263684

Tenor

fallow galleon Dec 20, 2019, 8:55 PM

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samsung usually have nice trade in program early on

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 8:56 PM

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google needs to bring the nexus line back dammit

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 8:56 PM

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I've got a 2 year old Pixel 2XL

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still going strong

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 8:56 PM

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the 3a was a step toward that

wet pilot Dec 20, 2019, 8:56 PM

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the mobile industry is definitely hading towards a crash

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 8:56 PM

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i've got an OG Pixel XL

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 8:56 PM

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I really don't get the whole "gotta get a new phone every year" thing

wet pilot Dec 20, 2019, 8:56 PM

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@last dirge same aside from a crack on the back glass, my fault

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 8:56 PM

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Yeah, I bought into Huawei a few years ago

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 8:56 PM

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back glass?

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 8:56 PM

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But they are overpriced now

wet pilot Dec 20, 2019, 8:56 PM

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i do every other year with the wife on alternating years

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 8:56 PM

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So probably moving to Xiaomi next time

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 8:57 PM

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heh i just retired my oneplus 1, 5 year old phone, ran just fine on nightly android

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 8:57 PM

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hahaha

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 8:57 PM

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only reason i upgraded was so wifey and i could use the same device

fallow galleon Dec 20, 2019, 8:57 PM

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I do like 4 years for each phone...

wet pilot Dec 20, 2019, 8:57 PM

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@last dirge the glass over the radios on the back. Cracked a the top left corner 😦

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 8:57 PM

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I have an S8 right now, but I'm thinking about ditching Samsung on my next phone

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 8:57 PM

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on what phone?

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 8:57 PM

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Mine usually last 2-3 years

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 8:57 PM

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xiamoi is interesting, but i'm curious what tricks they have up their sleeves.... the roborock sends a TON of data

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 8:57 PM

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I'll pay extra to not have a manufacturer's bloatware on top of android

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it's worth it

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 8:58 PM

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it's idle like 99% of the time, and sending more data than most of my devices

wet pilot Dec 20, 2019, 8:58 PM

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i had been keeping my wife on the pixel Odds and me on the evens but i don't really feel motivated to upgrade to the 4

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 8:58 PM

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and i have 96 on the network

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 8:58 PM

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@steel urchin my hue hub communicates 400% more than any Xiaomi device I have 😂

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 8:58 PM

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lol

wet pilot Dec 20, 2019, 8:58 PM

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using GoogleFi so my choices are a bit more limited :/

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 8:59 PM

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@wet pilot me too

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but what glass on the back of pixel2 are you talking about?

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it's metal

wet pilot Dec 20, 2019, 8:59 PM

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top 1/8th of the device is glass

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above the fingerprint sensor

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 8:59 PM

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just like the top 1/4 on the OG pixel

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er, 1/3

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 9:00 PM

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it's been in a rubber peel case its entire life

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:)(

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I always forget how thin it is when it's got no case

wet pilot Dec 20, 2019, 9:00 PM

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lol

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 9:00 PM

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Phone cases 🤢

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:00 PM

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i think the wedge design of the OG Pixel was a cool idea

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no camera bump

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 9:00 PM

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it's too damn small to not have a case on it

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:00 PM

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have i mentioned i have an OG Pixel XL?

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if not, i have an OG Pixel XL

wet pilot Dec 20, 2019, 9:00 PM

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heh

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wife is on the p3 right now

fallow galleon Dec 20, 2019, 9:00 PM

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I'm so used to case, I fear about dropping my phones without.

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 9:01 PM

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I've not broken a screen on a phone other than when I had to replace the digitizer on my EVO 3D

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 9:01 PM

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With or without a case it all depends on how you drop the phone

fallow galleon Dec 20, 2019, 9:01 PM

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It's more slippery without

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 9:02 PM

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I've dropped the shit out of my phone

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every way possible

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still rockin

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 9:02 PM

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You should probably not do that

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:02 PM

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but @clear ferry i know the roborock is sending gps coords, mapping of my home, wifi credentials, and has a tcpdump it does daily

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 9:02 PM

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vaccuspy

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dear china, my house looks like this

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 9:02 PM

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Unfortunately they are just the best vacuums though

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Dyson has entered the chat

fallow galleon Dec 20, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Easy, set your SSID to winnie and pw to pooh

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:03 PM

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i love my roborock

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Dyson has lost its way on the way to the chat

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 9:03 PM

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vacumming isn't a big deal

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:03 PM

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i have a dyson as well, but i don't use it anymore 🤣

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lol then you can come vacuum my house

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 9:03 PM

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also, I have a dog that the vacuums could kill

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so no robotic vacuums for me

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:04 PM

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i'm impressed with the roborock... it handles dog hair just fine

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and my wife's insanely long hair

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who probably sheds more than the dogs 🤣

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 9:04 PM

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How often do you clean it?

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:04 PM

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once a week

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less than my dyson

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i have to clean the dyson every use

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 9:04 PM

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I usually clean it after it stops functioning due to the amount of hair stuck in it 🤣

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about 1-2 weeks I'd say

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:05 PM

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yeah the dyson has HORRIBLE brushes

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that's the only complaint i have about dyson, it's a machine of marvel

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 9:05 PM

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I'd much rather spend 10 minutes a week cleaning out brushes than an hour every day vacuuming the house

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:05 PM

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i love how it goes together and comes apart so easily, except the brush

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 9:05 PM

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I clean the roborock every month

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:05 PM

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eeeexactly!

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 9:06 PM

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The wife sheds like a Egyptian dog

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:06 PM

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it was so amazing to come home from a business trip last week and have the house fully clean, carpet lines

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 9:06 PM

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*an hour every day vacuuming the house AND 10 minutes cleaning the brushes once a week

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:06 PM

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you vacuum every day?

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:06 PM

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also, because it's a robovac, i have to kinda pre-clean or it gets stuck, which actually is a nice added "feature" because it keeps the house cleaner than before

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:06 PM

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am i disgusting?

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once a week

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:06 PM

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lol

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 9:06 PM

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My robot does 🙂

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 9:06 PM

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I vacuum the kitchen every day

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:06 PM

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then again, it's just me (right now) and no pets

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 9:07 PM

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Because the baby messes a lot

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:07 PM

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that cracked me up "am i disgusting?"

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:07 PM

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my fiancee is over a few nights each week

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 9:07 PM

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😂

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 9:07 PM

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A few nights a week should be enough to shed a metric ton of hair

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:07 PM

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and she also sheds a ton

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i call it her residue

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 9:07 PM

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ew

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🤣

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:07 PM

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i'm stealing that

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:07 PM

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all yours

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MIT license

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:08 PM

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i pirate anyway, your license means NOTHING

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:08 PM

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damn

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 9:08 PM

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TomStare

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:08 PM

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anyone else here use excel all the time?

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index(match()) master race

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:09 PM

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mm i stay out of vbscript as much as possible 😛

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i've mostly been writing kernels the last few years, mixed in with microservices and protocols

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 9:10 PM

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You know what excel talk does to me @scenic radish pantsu

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Before I actually got into coding I had written an entire sales program in Access shudder soooo much rubber band+paper clips in vba

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:10 PM

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hahah i don't think you can call yourself a true problem solving developer unless you've kludged together an "enterprise app" in access or excel

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:11 PM

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are excel formulas considered a declarative language?

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:11 PM

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i'd hire that person on the spot

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 9:11 PM

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Excel formulas are considered a bad meme

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:11 PM

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🙁

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 9:12 PM

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Sorry 😂

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:12 PM

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all good lol

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 9:12 PM

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I think it is a good place to start as far as getting into programming goes actually

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eventually you will get so frustrated with the limitations that it will drive you to make an actual program

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that's what happened to me anyway

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:13 PM

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i wish excel could have multi-line formulas like jinja2 templating

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sometimes the number of closing parentheses is ridiculous

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:14 PM

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custom function

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 9:14 PM

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Less code, more hardware

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Itanium

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Discuss freely

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 9:14 PM

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always close your parentheses immediately, then go back into them to add what you need

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:14 PM

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then i'd have to learn VBA 🙁

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:14 PM

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i see your bait, and raise you: with better code, your hardware isn't as important

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:14 PM

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(custom function)

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that's a good idea villhellm

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i don't typically have too many things nested (as there are often better ways than doing that)

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but sometimes it happens

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:15 PM

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when things start getting crazy like that, i tend to use other hidden/specially named sheets for sub calculations

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 9:16 PM

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OR you can just keep adding ) until the problem goes away. If that doesn't work then do the same in reverse

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:16 PM

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i am kind of proud of the formula i just created to display a dynamic % of subtotal for different categories

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:16 PM

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or paste here: http://www.balancebraces.com/

Balance Braces, Parentheses, Brackets, and Tags in Your Code

This utility allows you to visually check that your code's braces (a.k.a., curly braces), parentheses, brackets, and tags are balanced. It also makes it easy to see what braces open and close a given section of code.

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:16 PM

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single formula dragged across and down

balmy inlet Dec 20, 2019, 9:16 PM

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how do I force HA to update a component? I just noticed the todoist pull request that fixes a .103 issue was merged 5 days ago and I want to make sure HA updated that component when I re-enabled it

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 9:16 PM

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#330944238910963714 @balmy inlet

balmy inlet Dec 20, 2019, 9:17 PM

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sorry didnt realize

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 9:17 PM

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MonkaShhh

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:18 PM

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@steel urchin that's not a sarcastic mindblown either, i didn't know about that site

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:19 PM

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i've always said, i have dual monitors for a reason... 1 to program on, the other to google on!

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:20 PM

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i've got triple monitors at work 💪

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 9:20 PM

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I used to run 4 monitors, but I never used more than 3

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Now I'm down to 2, but I miss my third 😦

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:21 PM

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yeah, once you've worked on 2, going back to 1 is nearly impossible. i imagine the same is for 3, but maybe less so

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 9:22 PM

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1 to 2 is a life changer, 2 to 3 is a minor step up in comparison

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My ideal setup would be 2 landscape, 1 portrait

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:22 PM

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lol i wish i had a pic... one of my guys had 7 monitors... i hated him

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they were across 3 systems, too, which was more annoying... so the dude had 3 keyboards and 3 mice, and never knew which he should be touching, and of course we never knew

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 9:23 PM

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3 sets of peripherals 🤢

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they make switchers for that reason

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:24 PM

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yeah, i literally bought him a kvm switch for that

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and a license of synergy

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he pissed me off, i was glad to fire him lol

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:25 PM

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sounds like 2 idiots one keyboard but in reverse

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:25 PM

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lol

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yeah, that was a fun running joke for us as well

wet pilot Dec 20, 2019, 9:26 PM

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there used to be an app out there that would work across systems

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synergy i think it was

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:26 PM

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during post mortems i'd always give him shit "so i see your productivity stayed the same, do we need another keyboard and monitor?"

wet pilot Dec 20, 2019, 9:26 PM

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oh

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too slow 😦

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 9:26 PM

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@wet pilot yeah works nice

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:26 PM

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hehe yep, i got him that as well

wet pilot Dec 20, 2019, 9:26 PM

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i used it for a while

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 9:26 PM

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I've used it across Mac, Linux and Windows

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:26 PM

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he was also the kind to use nano

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so... that should say a lot

wet pilot Dec 20, 2019, 9:27 PM

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heh

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 9:28 PM

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I use nano in the very rare occasions when I feel the need to edit directly in the console 🤷

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:28 PM

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i use nano 🙁

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dammit

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 9:28 PM

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apparently we are n00bs

clear ferry Dec 20, 2019, 9:28 PM

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I should order that ZigBee board tinkerer recommended

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 9:28 PM

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nano.... 🤢

wet pilot Dec 20, 2019, 9:29 PM

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i use nano when vim decides to be terrible and destroys my formatting

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usually when pasting yaml

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 9:29 PM

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when vim decides to be terrible so 28 years ago?

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 9:29 PM

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vi -u NONE somefile.yaml

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-u NONE tells vim to behave like vi

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:30 PM

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:set paste

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i actually use vscode these days

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but i used to be the nerd that spent a week adding nerdtree, projects, ctags, etc to the env

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 9:31 PM

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code server is a life changer

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:31 PM

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i've been wanting to look into that

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is that the new "fuck it, we'll do it live" m.o.?

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:31 PM

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i'm a linux n00b so let me use my nano in peace for now

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:32 PM

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nothing wrong with being a n00b

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we all start somewhere

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:32 PM

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been having a blast honestly

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 9:32 PM

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nano is fine, until you need something more powerful

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:32 PM

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what is wrong, is working in a company doing 50 billion a month, and using 3 mice and keyboards while using nano 🤣🤣🤣

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:32 PM

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oof

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 9:33 PM

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vi has the power of tools like sed hidden in it, and that's where the real game changes start to show up

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:33 PM

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yeah i think with HA type work is great.. edit a file, boom done... copy/paste... great... but when you need to refactor a file, you need more power

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cursor editing has changed my life

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:34 PM

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yeah i'm not doing anything crazy with files

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 9:34 PM

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same

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my current linux level of expertise is googling things that I need to do

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almost every time

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:35 PM

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i'm at the point when i can at least spin up a new python venv without googling the command lol

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:35 PM

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isn't it amazing we can do that now?

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when i was a kid i wanted to learn c++... i had to order a book that took 16 weeks to deliver

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:35 PM

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and do other things with it

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 9:35 PM

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:1,$s/\(.*\)/\U\1/
```Try that in `vim` some time 😉

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:36 PM

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that looks like the bash fork bomb

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:36 PM

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i still remember the "Learn <X-LANGUAGE> in 24 hours!" books and it took 3 weeks

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:36 PM

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but longer

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 9:36 PM

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Nah, it's harmless

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It should just convert everything to upper case

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:36 PM

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suuuuuure

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 9:36 PM

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sed is fun

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:37 PM

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brb gonna run rm -rf /

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:37 PM

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if i had to guess it just uppercases

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oh, damn... why is discord failing me lately? it stops auto-scrolling

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 9:39 PM

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For chaos, something like:

:1,$s/\(.\)\(.\)/\2\1/g
```which should, in theory, flip every character pair

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:39 PM

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lol i love it

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 9:39 PM

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Yes, I spent too much time with sed and related tools 😛

scenic radish Dec 20, 2019, 9:39 PM

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i see that

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:40 PM

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oh man... dvorak keyboard anyone? Hated working with a guy that had that layout... helping him was an exercise in futility

clever mortar Dec 20, 2019, 9:40 PM

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I've only used it to prank folks

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:40 PM

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that was his main reason, then he turned into a proper neckbeard

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so what do you use code server for @unreal orbit ?

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i actually can see that super useful for WSL since it's a half-baked implementation

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no more need for x-windows hackery

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 9:46 PM

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I use code server to make changes to my server config files (mainly HA config files)

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 9:51 PM

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ah, i just created a samba share for them that only i can access... it's running anyway, might as well use it

unreal orbit Dec 20, 2019, 9:54 PM

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The real benefit is editing remotely

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 10:07 PM

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mmm yeah... i have a differing opinion on that 😉 but ok was just curious of use-cases

last dirge Dec 20, 2019, 10:12 PM

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typing is WAY better on dvorak

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but it doesn't work well AT ALL for programming

errant steeple Dec 20, 2019, 10:36 PM

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Lol got my HAssio setup

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Way in over my head already lol

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Can't seem to access it with my duckdns tho, I have one setup already I can vpn into my network tho soooooo I can just go that route lol

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Openvpn

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@last dirge you put winter tires on your electrics?

steel urchin Dec 20, 2019, 11:14 PM

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so... my laptop just suddenly started seeing an orphaned USB cable as an unknown hub

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... that's not freaky at all....

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 12:04 AM

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👻

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 12:19 AM

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The smell of sauteed garlic is seriously the best

#

Spicy bowties with chicken tenderloin

📎 JPEG_20191220_182350.jpg

last dirge Dec 21, 2019, 12:50 AM

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@errant steeple I live in Atlanta

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so no

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😉

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all seasons are good enough down here

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 2:16 AM

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slaps @scenic radish.

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 2:16 AM

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🙁

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 2:17 AM

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That’s for not sharing that delicious looking food with the rest of us!

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 2:17 AM

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oh shit... well, i do have leftovers

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come on over

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 2:17 AM

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Now I’m hungry, and I just ate candy. Haha

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Be right over! See you in 10.

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 2:17 AM

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👐

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super easy recipe, i can send it over if you want

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modified version of a recipe from the back of the pasta box lol

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 2:27 AM

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What’s the “spicy” part?

#

A friend of mine gave me a Mac n cheese recipe the other day that I still need to try my hand at. It was soooo good the way she made it.

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 2:32 AM

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my wife has a version that uses a bechamel cream sauce as a base

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we call it "crack and cheese"

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orecchiette for the pasta hatch green chilies in the sauce and prosciutto for the protein 😄

green inlet Dec 21, 2019, 2:34 AM

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Holy crap. That’s not Mac and cheese.

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 2:34 AM

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😛

green inlet Dec 21, 2019, 2:35 AM

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Sounds like a New York Italian spin on Mac and cheese.

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 2:37 AM

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@peak cloud chili powder 😋

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The recipe calls for red pepper flakes but I was out so I had to improvise

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 2:37 AM

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Nom nom nom nom nom

young sigil Dec 21, 2019, 4:27 AM

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Wait, how do you make mac and cheese without a roux/bechamel? I mean other than "Mac's famous Mac'n Cheese".

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 4:40 AM

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My favorite Christmas movie ever!

📎 image0.jpg

ocean mirage Dec 21, 2019, 4:41 AM

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but thats not Die Hard

umbral barn Dec 21, 2019, 4:44 AM

#

Has anyone innstalled homeassistant on frebsd

static schooner Dec 21, 2019, 4:46 AM

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Definitely not in #the-water-cooler, maybe in #330944238910963714 or #general-archived

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 4:52 AM

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@ocean mirage Die Hard is definitely good runner-up in my book, but not my personal favorite.

young sigil Dec 21, 2019, 4:53 AM

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Star.Wars.Holiday.Special.

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 4:53 AM

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Out visiting my parents this weekend and somehow we landed on watching Christmas movies. Started with ‘94 remake of Santa Claus, now Elf, and maybe next will be Die Hard!

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 4:54 AM

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Christmas Story is another good one.

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Frageelay... Hmm. Must be Italian.

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 4:58 AM

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my wife makes me watch all of the harry potter series for christmas

young sigil Dec 21, 2019, 5:03 AM

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@steel urchin Hey man what's with the thumbs down? Next you'll be saying Battlefield Earth is not the ultimate cinematic scif experience that unites critics, audiences and studios in their acclaim.

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 5:10 AM

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I am so over Christmas Story. :/

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:13 AM

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The 24-hour loop doesn't help lol

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:13 AM

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lol @young sigil you funny

ocean mirage Dec 21, 2019, 5:13 AM

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I don't think I have ever seen Christmas Story

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:14 AM

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the classic?

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 5:14 AM

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its a bit racist 😛

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:14 AM

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mmm a tiny yeah

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:14 AM

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Yeah they definitely couldn't make that movie today lol

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 5:14 AM

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😄

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:15 AM

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How the Grinch stole Christmas is my second favorite (Elf is my first)

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 5:15 AM

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Yeah, the annual 24 hour loop is what killed it for me.

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Ooooo! Grinch is so good too!!

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:16 AM

#

"I'm an idiot"
You're an idiot

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:16 AM

#

I still say Firefly Season 1 is my favorite thing to watch

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 5:16 AM

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isn't that the only season?

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 5:16 AM

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And you don’t like Harry Potter? 🤣

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:16 AM

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Semantics

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:17 AM

#

Mesantics

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 5:17 AM

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Yousantics

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:17 AM

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My wife does, it's alright I guess if I'm being honest

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:17 AM

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Also that reminds me, spoonerisms are my all time favorite

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I say them all the time

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 5:17 AM

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My ex girlfriend made me go to see every HP movie with her opening night...

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:17 AM

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Honestly I only care about a few movies

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 5:17 AM

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I fell asleep every single time.

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:18 AM

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"oof big" lol

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:18 AM

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Pulp fiction, back to the Future trilogy, Indiana Jones trilogy (4th is a lie), and probably a few I can't think of cuz of this rum

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 5:18 AM

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only you can reverse it 😛

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:19 AM

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Biggest of oofs

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 5:19 AM

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PF is a good one.

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:19 AM

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i like a lot of QT movies, but that's the top for me

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 5:19 AM

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“Mmmm that is a tasty burger!”

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:19 AM

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Batman trilogy for me.

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:19 AM

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django is prolly 2nd

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:19 AM

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Bourne trilogy also (fourth is a lie)

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 5:19 AM

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I wasn’t able to make it through Django I don’t think.

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:20 AM

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ok i hate matt damon but yes that is a great action flick

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it's hard for django, but there's a lot of cinematic genius in it

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:20 AM

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📎 bsyczkqavrm31.jpg

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:20 AM

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lol

ocean mirage Dec 21, 2019, 5:20 AM

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would that not be the 25th?

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 5:21 AM

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Lmao

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:21 AM

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I believe it's unclear actually

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https://www.ucg.org/bible-study-tools/bible-questions-and-answers/when-was-jesus-christ-born-was-jesus-born-on-december

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Oh whoops, no religion

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 5:22 AM

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John Wick series is above Bourne series for me.

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:22 AM

#

My 🅱️

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Never actually watched the John wick movies

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 5:22 AM

#

WTF?

#

What are you doing with your life?!

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:23 AM

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Teasing you with food and poor movie choices

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 5:23 AM

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Easily top 10 for me. Except the 3rd.

ocean mirage Dec 21, 2019, 5:23 AM

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I've got them all but have yet to watch any of them

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 5:23 AM

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Dude. Right now is a better time than ever.

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You’ll thank me in 7 hours.

ocean mirage Dec 21, 2019, 5:24 AM

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well I am about to head out

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:24 AM

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i only watched the first

ocean mirage Dec 21, 2019, 5:24 AM

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heh, no way I am watching them back to back anyway

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:24 AM

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no balls

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 5:24 AM

#

Who are your top 3 actors

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:24 AM

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gary oldman

ocean mirage Dec 21, 2019, 5:24 AM

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Dylan, dylan, dylan

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 5:24 AM

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Keanu, Hanks, and Ferrell for me (at this point in time)

ocean mirage Dec 21, 2019, 5:24 AM

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I can list two more

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:25 AM

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lol DYLAN, i spit hot 🔥

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:25 AM

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Woody harrelson, Harrison Ford, Clint Eastwood

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 5:25 AM

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Sandler and Swardson are up there for me too.

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:25 AM

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Zombieland was too funny

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:26 AM

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i actually don't really have a favorite list of actors

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 5:26 AM

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Ahh, good ol’ classic actors there!

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:26 AM

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oh man i'm actually excited for ZL2

ocean mirage Dec 21, 2019, 5:26 AM

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I'd not put ferrell or sandler on the list lol

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:26 AM

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drew barrymore used to be a favorite for naughty reasons

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lol

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 5:26 AM

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They’re both “special” actors that are love/hate I guess.

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:27 AM

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i loathed ferrell until step brothers

ocean mirage Dec 21, 2019, 5:27 AM

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I like Dustin Hoffman

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:27 AM

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that movie makes me laugh so hard

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 5:27 AM

#

Mmmm 50 First Dates was pretty good.

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:27 AM

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i also love me some kathryn hahn (iirc?)

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lol i'm going down a different path.. it's the rum.. i'll stop

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:27 AM

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DID WE JUST BECOME BEST FRIENDS

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:28 AM

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prestige world wide (wide wide ide ide)

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 5:28 AM

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Haha, keep the rum a pourin’!

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:28 AM

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Alright about to change my avatar, lemme know what you guys think

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💥

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:33 AM

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is this /r/roastme?

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 5:33 AM

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he's just signing up for additional voluntary hazing

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:36 AM

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we were jk though @scenic radish don't be mad at us

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you looked like a secret agent

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:37 AM

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2 l8 m8, your outlook is not gr8, no deb8

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:37 AM

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i'm 2 legit 2 quit so.... yeah...

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:37 AM

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I was going for a secret agent look, so glad that worked lol

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:43 AM

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📎 IMG_20191220_234259.jpg

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:43 AM

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Tf is this shit

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:43 AM

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yeah so that's what i'm goign to triple gang up

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:44 AM

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gang gang

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:44 AM

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that's a shitty positional fan switch with a microscopic light switch

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:44 AM

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Jk I'm also in the US so I have those switches

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Well, not the fan switch

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:44 AM

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and then the single pole switch is recessed lights

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i've never seen that crap on the left, and i hate it with the passion of a thousand burning suns

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 5:45 AM

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yeah, even my place that was built by ryan homes has a 3-gang box

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Ryan Homes. No corner left un-cut! ™️

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:45 AM

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Lol

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"when the worst just doesn't cut it"

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:45 AM

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well... this isn't my forever home...

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i'm trying to just tell myself that, cuz th equality is shit

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the price... not so much

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 5:46 AM

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who's the builder? i wanna add them to my list 😛

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:46 AM

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i mean it is shit cuz the quality is shit.. but living in austin it's expensive

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dr horton

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:46 AM

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Your screws are the wrong way btw

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Should be horizontal

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:46 AM

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gotta align the quadriphasic horizontimographers?

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 5:46 AM

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electricians always do vertical. its how they can tell if it was done by a pro

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:47 AM

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i did that, so.. yeah... pro

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:47 AM

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Lmao

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:47 AM

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he's actually right, that's how i got the tip

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:47 AM

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Just the tip?

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:47 AM

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only to start

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:48 AM

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just to see how it feels

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 5:48 AM

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just don't cross the streams

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:48 AM

#

Oh also

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gang gang

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Watching this in 2019

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:49 AM

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i ripped everything open to see if i had neutrals and pigtails

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📎 EK0Wv6XXkAAuqqv.png

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:49 AM

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Neutral detected

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 5:49 AM

#

Up next!

📎 image0.jpg

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 5:50 AM

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that over-spray is gross

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:50 AM

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yeah, don't get me started

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 5:50 AM

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also, wtf textured walls?

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:50 AM

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yeahhhhhhhhhhhh like i said

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:50 AM

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Geez, why don't you just shit all over the man's house

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:50 AM

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nah i'm not happy about it either... but like i said.. austin is crazy

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:50 AM

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Your house fucking sucks

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:50 AM

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it's blowing up, our house we're selling is up 400%

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this one is probably goign to be up 400% in a few years

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 5:50 AM

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we briefly considered moving there but we missed the window

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:51 AM

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Oh shit

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 5:51 AM

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so Charlotte

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:51 AM

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suburbs are growing like crazy man

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:51 AM

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That's yuge

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:51 AM

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yeah considering we bought for 400k, it's definitely yuge

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 5:51 AM

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we're already up 30k in 2 years

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:51 AM

#

https://media.tenor.com/images/f865c67834547565f91c7de6a346f56a/tenor.gif

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:51 AM

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if you can beat your taxes, you're charlie sheen winning

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 5:52 AM

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I much prefer living in Fort Worth. Never been huge on the idea of living in Austin, but it’s fun to visit.

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 5:52 AM

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heh, they just finally re-assessed for the first time in like 10 years

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:52 AM

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According to the "zestimate" I'm up 20%

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 5:52 AM

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only like 2.5k/year though

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on 290k

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 5:52 AM

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Housing market is sure to crash soon. We’re going on what, like 7 or 8 years strong of being a sellers market?

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:53 AM

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Well we already had the subprime mortgage bubble

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:53 AM

#

i lived on bedford rd on 121 for a while when i worked at radioshack hq

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lil shitty apt complex

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:53 AM

#

imma find u

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And automate the shit out of your shit

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 5:53 AM

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Hah! I live near 820/35W near Saginaw.

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:53 AM

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dare

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i've lived all over dfw

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 5:54 AM

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Do you remember when it was Tandy Corp?

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:54 AM

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you've seen the show dallas?

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 5:54 AM

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I miss the railway, lol.

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:54 AM

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the land they'r eon is southfork ranch.. that was my back yard once

peak cloud Dec 21, 2019, 5:54 AM

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I haven’t, no.

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 5:54 AM

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well it was pretty rad if i do say so

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 5:54 AM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/e5c079dbf47e75247c6548f5cb23abf8/tenor.gif

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There it is

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Found u. Prepare for a world of convenience

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 5:59 AM

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Mmmm

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Wake up to power outage

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 6:04 AM

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lol

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 6:04 AM

#

Finally bought a UPS for my pi and networking equipment

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 6:07 AM

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i've never had a ups for personal stuff

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 6:07 AM

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i've been meaning to pick one up for years

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 6:08 AM

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I'm just waiting for a customer to throw out a reasonable one

#

A 18u one is impractical

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 6:08 AM

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lol

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 6:08 AM

#

are you an IT service?

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 6:08 AM

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I work in it yes

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 6:09 AM

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you keep mentioning customer, i wasn't sure the capacity that meant

#

i was goign to ask if you use spiceworks, but it sounds like you work for a company

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 6:09 AM

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I'm an escort you see

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But most of my clients are men of it

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 6:09 AM

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twenty dollah make you hollah

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 6:10 AM

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Spiceworks 🤢

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 6:10 AM

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heh we made a lot of people rich 🙂

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but i agree... i cashed out and bounced as fast as hell

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 6:13 AM

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Where it questions go to die

#

And always end up in the front-page of Google

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 6:13 AM

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spiceworks?

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 6:23 AM

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oh you're talking about the forum

#

that's basically overstack without being overstack... similar results, but overstack does often have better results

#

but it's also a small business IT tech stack

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wmi(ads) and ssh auth into systems, monitoring, qos for storage and network, complete desktop support ticket system, easy remoting, vlan config, ink monitoring, inventory, purchasing, alerts, etc etc etc

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 6:27 AM

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i work for a company that produces a monitoring system

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so none of the companies i work with use spiceworks 😛

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 6:28 AM

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heh neither do i

#

i only started the architecture and processes for the company

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 6:29 AM

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Yeah, I don't think I have ever heard of any Scandinavian customer using spiceworks

#

Someone in Europe might, but I have never heard of that either

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 6:29 AM

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it's for small businesses, or independent IT consultants

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since it's free it has a lot of traction in those markets

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 6:30 AM

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I work with everything from single employee companies to the biggest Scandinavian ones

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 6:30 AM

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nice

#

i have mostly only worked with american companies, that outsource to other countries

#

like i worked at Dell for a while doing R&D for a certain space

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but i mostly had meetings at 3am

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and that sucked, so i left after a while

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 6:32 AM

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Development 😴

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 6:32 AM

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lol don't start shit

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 6:33 AM

#

I am shit 😛

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 6:33 AM

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hey you said it!

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lol jk jk

#

nah, we need each other.. .the dev and the implementation

#

without either side we're stuck

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 6:34 AM

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I mostly do consulting, but a lot of complex cross vendor troubleshooting, and I develop a few business areas internally

hushed basalt Dec 21, 2019, 6:34 AM

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Have you seen a failure of microservices on youtube

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Starring "Bell Computers"

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Names changed to protect the guilty

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 6:35 AM

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can i haz link?

#

i'm ashamed to say i haven't even seen halt and catch fire

#

and my uncle was sorta involved in that whole basis

hushed basalt Dec 21, 2019, 6:35 AM

#

https://youtu.be/gfh-VCTwMw8

YouTube

NDC Conferences

Avoiding Microservice Megadisasters - Jimmy Bogard

You've spent months re-architecting your monolith into the new microservices vision. Everyone gathers around to flip the switch. You navigate to the first page...and nothing happens. Refresh...still nothing. The site is so slow, it won't respond for minutes. What happened?
In...

▶ Play video

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 6:36 AM

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"blamestorming" rofl

hushed basalt Dec 21, 2019, 6:36 AM

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📎 Screenshot_20191221-143606_YouTube_1.jpg

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 6:37 AM

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lol

#

it was the wild west back then

#

you don't wanna know about at&t in the late 80s that i had to deal with in the 2000's

daring inlet Dec 21, 2019, 6:42 AM

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That reminds me of Futurama where they sent their trash into space... Eventually it comes crashing back down on you lol

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 6:43 AM

#

I miss that show

#

Before it was cancelled

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 6:43 AM

#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLpgxry542M

YouTube

Panicstate

Mass Effect 2: Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son of a bitch in...

:D

▶ Play video

hushed basalt Dec 21, 2019, 6:44 AM

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Hehe physics

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 6:57 AM

#

tom

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 6:59 AM

#

decent talk @hushed basalt

hushed basalt Dec 21, 2019, 7:08 AM

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@steel urchin I've watched half of it

#

Unbroken time to watch a talk is a luxury nowadays

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 7:09 AM

#

there's a few fundamental things i feel he's missing, and he's a bit of a shit talker, but he has good points

hushed basalt Dec 21, 2019, 7:09 AM

#

I feel like it's what happens when people use flask to build everything when they don't have the architectural experience etc

#

Saying that as someone who used flask to build something without architectural experience

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 7:10 AM

#

😛

hushed basalt Dec 21, 2019, 7:10 AM

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But that was just a single purpose API

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 7:10 AM

#

i got paid to go to pycon this year, that was fun

hushed basalt Dec 21, 2019, 7:10 AM

#

Jelly

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 7:10 AM

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i'll bow out of the python convo 😛

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 7:11 AM

#

but i agree, sitting down to listen to a talk is really hard to do if you're not getting paid to do it

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 7:11 AM

#

heh, guess i'm that nerd that listens to talks

#

i prefer listening to opinions rather than books, as they're typically out of date before they're printed (and i know some of the asshats that are writing these books, and they aren't any authority on the topics)

#

from these opinions, i build my own

#

i see others failures, as well as my own, and build contingencies in my next project

#

i feel like his approach is ... in texas we'd call it like a shadetree mechanic

#

a dude using a shady tree to sling a rope over to pull his engine out of his bay

#

it works, it's effective, it's easy, and it's cheap

#

but... it's not professional, and it won't scale

#

i'm drunk watching architecture vids, i am going to shut up now lol

#

ok i changed my mind, this talk is trash

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 7:26 AM

#

XD

hushed basalt Dec 21, 2019, 7:26 AM

#

Does it get worse

#

That's the thing about talks, if you target them at people who aren't more experienced than you you can bullshit about anything

#

Like when I give my homeassistant talk next year, no one at the meetup has touched it

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 7:28 AM

#

i'm trying to think of a word and my brain is melting

#

basically, he's giving a scenario that is super specific, and his design is specific, and limited on purpose, but he plays it off like he saves the day

#

the word is like on the tip of my tongue

#

i'd describe it as "an intentional situation described specifically TO example"

hushed basalt Dec 21, 2019, 7:31 AM

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Not strawman,

#

A solution finding a problem?

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 7:31 AM

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no no, it's not a fallacy

#

i don't believe

#

yes, that would be a good alternative description

#

i wanna say the word starts with a C, but damn if i cannot think of it

#

the words constipated and arbitrary keep coming to mind

#

CONTRIVED

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omfg

#

i got it

#

holy shit i deserve a nobel prize

hushed basalt Dec 21, 2019, 7:35 AM

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The nobel pizza prize

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 7:36 AM

#

he at least mentions conway's law

#

i have mixed feelings on this talk, but overall his example is contrived to tell a story, which i'm not a fan of

#

last word on the matter.. his title was "Avoiding Microservice Megadisasters", and really he just hacked around it.. so... that's a farce imo. bypassing would be a better word. but it was a good watch either way.

valid halo Dec 21, 2019, 12:31 PM

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My sister is buying me a smart plug for christmas

#

is nice

clever mortar Dec 21, 2019, 12:33 PM

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So, you're going to get some cloud only thing that only works with Cortana 😛

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 12:34 PM

#

One plug? Tell her to get the value three pack

#

There is always a value pack 😛

#

I've even seen stuff like that cheaper than the single one ThonkEyes

clever mortar Dec 21, 2019, 12:35 PM

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Then again, you get the cases where the multi-pack is more expensive than buying individually

valid halo Dec 21, 2019, 12:38 PM

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I don't want to have a bunch of plugs littering my house unused

#

I am...fickle when it comes to sticking to projects

#

Also Naaaah

#

I told her get me a Wemo one

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that one works local network

echo tide Dec 21, 2019, 2:12 PM

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anyone here gifted at packet sniffing? 🙂 I'm using Wireshark to try and find my water softeners communications so that I could intercept them and write an integration for it, but the only packets seemingly coming from the softener's IP address are IGMP messages to a multicast address

clever mortar Dec 21, 2019, 2:14 PM

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That's because your network is switched

#

You need to monitor it at the switch or gateway

echo tide Dec 21, 2019, 2:15 PM

#

ack... alright, I'll try and dive into that one then

clever mortar Dec 21, 2019, 2:15 PM

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It's relatively easy if the switch or gateway supports port mirroring

#

Otherwise you're into the realms of network taps

echo tide Dec 21, 2019, 2:19 PM

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I've got a unifi switch; from what I quickly googled, I should be able to use Wireshark's SSHDump utility to SSH into the switch (or AP)

clever mortar Dec 21, 2019, 2:19 PM

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If you've a spare port, set that up to mirror the port that your water softener or access point is connected to

#

Then hook your laptop up to that port, with DHCP disabled for this, and capture the traffic

#

If you can hook up a USB network adapter, that'll allow you to leave it running while still using the laptop normally

echo tide Dec 21, 2019, 2:21 PM

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interesting, alright, thanks for the info! off to explore new horizons 😉

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 2:24 PM

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Portsniffing, so much fun when doing it on a 256 port stack uplink 😛

echo tide Dec 21, 2019, 3:23 PM

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hmmmn, seems like the packet is being sent over WireGuard protocol; encrypted... back to the drawing board

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 4:27 PM

#

Freshly shaven head 👩‍🦲 WoolooLove

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 5:32 PM

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lol i'm on the other end, i go 3 - 6mo between haircuts

#

shoulder+ length hair

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 6:00 PM

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damn son

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i have to go every 3-4 weeks

#

my hair grows out more than it does up

#

so i start looking like a 🍄

midnight adder Dec 21, 2019, 6:18 PM

#

https://www.theverge.com/2019/12/19/21029661/zwave-open-standard-radios-smart-home-multiple-vendors-silicon-labs

The Verge

Z-Wave is making a huge change so it doesn’t get left behind in ...

It’s finally opening up, right after Apple, Google, Amazon, and Zigbee joined forces.

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 6:38 PM

#

lol that's been posted a few times

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 6:39 PM

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https://www.theverge.com/2019/12/19/21029661/zwave-open-standard-radios-smart-home-multiple-vendors-silicon-labs

#

Now it's been posted a_few + 1 times

#

a_few = a_few + 1

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 6:47 PM

#

or better written: a_few++

#

Gotta love getting gifts! Wish I was a thoughtful gift giver

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 6:50 PM

#

a_few += 1 in other languages

#

++ is good for C based languages

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 6:50 PM

#

correction, ecmascript-based languages

#

and += <n> should work in every language that ++ works in, they're both overridden operators

#

anywho, i'm just joshin ya

#

i have no clue who this omaha steaks delivery is from

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 7:29 PM

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Programmers cmontrump

green inlet Dec 21, 2019, 7:48 PM

#

Has anyone else had issues with win32 disk imager lately. I always get a weird error and can’t complete an image.

#

I will post error next time it comes up

#

Wonder if there is anything better though

clever mortar Dec 21, 2019, 7:55 PM

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For writing images etcher

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 7:56 PM

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dd 😛

clever mortar Dec 21, 2019, 7:57 PM

#

Well, yeah, the ultimate tool for cloning anything

#

Also handy for cloning your network traffic to the speaker...

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 7:57 PM

#

😂

#

Experience is everything

#

And @clever mortar has it

clever mortar Dec 21, 2019, 7:58 PM

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Lots of fun to be had playing pranks on folks

green inlet Dec 21, 2019, 8:21 PM

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Yea, I think I was selecting the wrong partition or something. I have etcher for writing but it does not clone.

#

This last go around I selected a different partition and so far it has been successful 🤞🏻

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 8:24 PM

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@steel urchin everyone is getting gift cards this year lol

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 8:24 PM

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You are getting something else xi2

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 8:24 PM

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😉

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 8:25 PM

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lol i do the same

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and i go visa cuz i'm even more lame

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 8:25 PM

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Oof

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That $5 fee though 🤢

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Or whatever it is

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 8:26 PM

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I did gift cards for everyone last year, but I was 2 months into a baby

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This year everyone gets proper presents again

clever mortar Dec 21, 2019, 8:27 PM

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We've a mix - proper presents for most, but some are getting gift cards because they're hard to buy for

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 8:27 PM

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I'm a pita to buy for

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 8:28 PM

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i actually do give SOME decent gifts from time to time

green inlet Dec 21, 2019, 8:29 PM

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I ask for gift cards, or cash.

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They are happy, I am happy. Everyone is happy happy happy

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 8:33 PM

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i made this lil doo dad a few years back for interns of mine

📎 f8jRMQd.png

clever mortar Dec 21, 2019, 8:33 PM

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Nice

steel urchin Dec 21, 2019, 8:34 PM

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good ol 9v etching... that i promptly switched to my 20v drill battery cuz that took too long 🤣

midnight adder Dec 21, 2019, 8:56 PM

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this might be beyond the scope of this server, but does anyone have any recommendations for a modem and router for a relatively small two-story home? my speed cap is 200 mbps, and im just getting started in the home automation world

clever mortar Dec 21, 2019, 8:58 PM

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What kind of connection, and where in the world?

midnight adder Dec 21, 2019, 8:58 PM

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california, spectrum cable

clever mortar Dec 21, 2019, 8:58 PM

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Then you need to check first what's supported there 😉

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I'd suggest one that can operate as a pure modem, so you can hook up your choice of router behind it, and separate access points

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Unifi is popular

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Google found me https://www.spectrum.net/support/internet/compliant-modems-charter-network/

midnight adder Dec 21, 2019, 9:06 PM

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i was hopeful that amplifi had some kind of modem, but it doesnt look like it

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is something like the motorola surfboard 6120 plus the ubiquiti amplifi overkill?

clever mortar Dec 21, 2019, 9:09 PM

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Eh, in this crowd there's no such thing as overkill

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~~just open fire and reload~~

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Though, I'd probably suggest the Unifi Gateway and separate access points, rather than the Amplifi

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That'll give you more capability and flexibility

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 9:13 PM

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I went with a $40 tp-link modem lol (max 343 down or something)

clever mortar Dec 21, 2019, 9:14 PM

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I'm currently on a stock Fritz!Box router, though when we finally get decent broadband it'll be Unifi or Mikrotik

midnight adder Dec 21, 2019, 9:16 PM

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id love to “futureproof” my setup as much as possible in the off chance we do ever get fiber at our home

clever mortar Dec 21, 2019, 9:17 PM

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Unifi is the popular semi-pro route

midnight adder Dec 21, 2019, 9:17 PM

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whats the difference between amplifi and gateway?

clever mortar Dec 21, 2019, 9:17 PM

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Amplifi is aimed at typical home users

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The main Unifi range is semi-pro

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So, more features, more control, more cost

midnight adder Dec 21, 2019, 9:20 PM

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i dont even know what to buy for the unifi

clever mortar Dec 21, 2019, 9:21 PM

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https://www.ui.com/unifi-routing/usg/

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And some access points from https://www.ui.com/products/#unifi

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Oh and https://unifi-protect.ui.com/cloud-key-gen2

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https://store.ui.com/collections/routing-switching/products/unifi-dream-machine is also an option

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However, they have a forum

midnight adder Dec 21, 2019, 9:24 PM

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the dream machine is an all-in-one solution after a modem?

clever mortar Dec 21, 2019, 9:25 PM

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Yes

midnight adder Dec 21, 2019, 9:37 PM

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hmm, okay. so if i go with the dream machine, it’s kind of like entry-level prosumer networking?

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 9:37 PM

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its their "gateway" gateway 😛

midnight adder Dec 21, 2019, 9:37 PM

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and ill need to do scary things like research and learn

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 9:44 PM

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Pfsense TriDance

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But I'm a weirdo ugh

clever mortar Dec 21, 2019, 9:44 PM

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Expensive, but powerful

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Ran it for years

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 9:44 PM

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Free with your own hardware 😛

clever mortar Dec 21, 2019, 9:44 PM

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Yeah, decent hardware with no moving parts costs though

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 9:45 PM

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I haven't paid a cent in almost 20 years

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I'll tell you the second server I ran it on

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I picked it up from the local hospital, a self built ATX full tower they used for backups

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P3, hostname Viagra

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😂

clever mortar Dec 21, 2019, 9:46 PM

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Mind you, the hardware they sell these days looks pretty neat

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 9:46 PM

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I still remember the sticker on top

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With fqdn containing Viagra as the hostname

clever mortar Dec 21, 2019, 9:46 PM

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🤣

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 9:47 PM

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Aye, they sell cool stuff, but that is for the Enterprise guys who pay for support imo

clever mortar Dec 21, 2019, 9:47 PM

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Yeah, but a decent box with multiple ports... building my own would cost the same or more

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Then again, I've a history of building my own...

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 9:48 PM

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I run it off a AliExpress mini computer ATM, cost me $100 ish with shipping, 60gb SSD and memory included

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Good enough for the stuff I'm hitting it with

clever mortar Dec 21, 2019, 9:49 PM

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I'm likely to want (at least) two LAN ports and two WAN ports if I can

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That'll give me a primary and fail-over WAN, plus a separated guest network

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Yeah, this only has two total, but a four port was only $10 up

clever mortar Dec 21, 2019, 9:50 PM

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That's pretty reasonable

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 9:51 PM

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I might order a four port one and reuse this for HA or even as a desktop

clever mortar Dec 21, 2019, 9:51 PM

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Link?

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Not that AliExpress needs more of my money, but I haven't ordered from them in at least an hour...

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 9:52 PM

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I bought mine on sale, think it was 11.11 actually last year

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Just search Ali for pfsense

clever mortar Dec 21, 2019, 9:52 PM

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Mind you, http://www.aliexpress.com/item/33034323186.html looks neat

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 9:53 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/neat-thats-pretty-neat-smile-gif-14911905

Tenor

clever mortar Dec 21, 2019, 9:53 PM

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Damn, there's some nice kit there

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 9:53 PM

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NOK 701.92 51%OFF | Mini PC Celeron J1900 Quad Core Windows 10 Dual LAN 2*COM Fanless Mini Computer Celeron J1800 N2830 NetTop 300M WIFI HDMI VGA
https://a.aliexpress.com/sMOMDg3W

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