#the-water-cooler | Home Assistant | Page 390

wet pilot Oct 31, 2019, 5:22 AM

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yeah, being super basic is both a blessing and a curse

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opposite is true for django

clear ferry Oct 31, 2019, 6:15 AM

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Software people smh

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👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨

hushed basalt Oct 31, 2019, 7:32 AM

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Stick to your racks

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We're trying to make the world a better place, one selfie app at a time

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You're just converting electricity into heat and photons

clear ferry Oct 31, 2019, 8:19 AM

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And making lol pictures with fiber cables

hushed basalt Oct 31, 2019, 12:44 PM

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What do you think is a fair amount of notice to give for leaving a job

light trout Oct 31, 2019, 12:46 PM

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~ 🖕

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About the time that takes

wet pilot Oct 31, 2019, 12:47 PM

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lol

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depends on your local labor laws

light trout Oct 31, 2019, 12:48 PM

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And what the contract say, if you have one

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If those do not apply, a single 🖕 should be enough

clear ferry Oct 31, 2019, 12:49 PM

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people leave their jobs ? 🤔

wet pilot Oct 31, 2019, 12:54 PM

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lol

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https://i.redd.it/7xrcj2vphuv31.png

clear ferry Oct 31, 2019, 12:55 PM

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🤣

hushed basalt Oct 31, 2019, 1:06 PM

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I don't have to give any notice

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But I do want to potentially keep the freelancing door to them open

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More money for less work doing only the stuff I want to do :D

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Australian labour laws are pretty non existant without a union established industrial award

scenic radish Oct 31, 2019, 1:11 PM

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common courtesy, at least in the US, is two weeks

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but yeah, there is no loyalty anymore so do whatever you want lol

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last time i gave a two-week notice, they shitcanned me four days later

clear ferry Oct 31, 2019, 1:29 PM

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nice, got randomization in my halloween lights too

scenic radish Oct 31, 2019, 1:31 PM

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iM sO rAnDoM!!!

wet pilot Oct 31, 2019, 1:48 PM

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can't really go wrong with 2 weeks

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its the "standard" in the US but in most states there's nothing stoping either party from walking with no notice

light trout Oct 31, 2019, 1:52 PM

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I think i have 3 months

clear ferry Oct 31, 2019, 1:54 PM

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Yeah, I have 3months

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usually default in norway after 6 months of employment

scenic radish Oct 31, 2019, 1:54 PM

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3 months?

light trout Oct 31, 2019, 1:54 PM

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Yup

scenic radish Oct 31, 2019, 1:54 PM

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oh they have to give you 3 month notice?

light trout Oct 31, 2019, 1:54 PM

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Correct

scenic radish Oct 31, 2019, 1:54 PM

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O

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neato

wet pilot Oct 31, 2019, 1:55 PM

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yeah, other countries have laws that force employers to not be terrible

scenic radish Oct 31, 2019, 1:55 PM

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lol

unreal orbit Oct 31, 2019, 1:55 PM

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Must be nice

clear ferry Oct 31, 2019, 1:56 PM

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and better is the competions rules for american companies, had a collegue go to a competing company, that meant our company had to pay him for 6 months and let him go the same day, and that company had to pay him for 6 months and he couldn't work there for 6 months because of competative information

light trout Oct 31, 2019, 1:56 PM

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Must be nice 😄

wet pilot Oct 31, 2019, 1:56 PM

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lol that's a weird one

clear ferry Oct 31, 2019, 1:57 PM

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storage manager for the country

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they usually sit on info about products that are 1 year out

wet pilot Oct 31, 2019, 1:57 PM

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fair

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most "non-compete" clauses are getting nuked in the us

clear ferry Oct 31, 2019, 1:59 PM

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oh, and if I get sick, the state pays my employer so they can keep me paid

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I don't have to be afraid to get sick 🤣

scenic radish Oct 31, 2019, 1:59 PM

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i mean, we have sick days and short- and long-term disability lol

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i guess it depends on your employer though

unreal orbit Oct 31, 2019, 1:59 PM

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Not everyone though

scenic radish Oct 31, 2019, 1:59 PM

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and if you're hourly/salary

clear ferry Oct 31, 2019, 2:00 PM

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I can take 3 days, 4 times a year without a doctors notice

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a lot of people misuse that

unreal orbit Oct 31, 2019, 2:00 PM

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I can take 3 days

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and lose my job

scenic radish Oct 31, 2019, 2:00 PM

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yikes

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yeah the work situation in the US is... not great, to say to least

unreal orbit Oct 31, 2019, 2:01 PM

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I mean I probably wouldn't, but there's nothing from stopping that from happening

scenic radish Oct 31, 2019, 2:01 PM

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thankfully i work at a company that is not absolutely terrible

clear ferry Oct 31, 2019, 2:02 PM

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yeah, I have had 5 sickdays in the last 12 years

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but I have flexible hours, I work when I have something to do

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and work a lot ooh

wet pilot Oct 31, 2019, 2:15 PM

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i have "unlimited time off" subject to management approval

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took about 80h so far this year

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but i also work from home so i don't take as much sick time

clear ferry Oct 31, 2019, 2:16 PM

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yeah, I took 180 hours off last year

scenic radish Oct 31, 2019, 2:17 PM

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we have unlimited sick days, but not unlimited PTO

clear ferry Oct 31, 2019, 2:17 PM

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I tend to do 50% of my hours as compensation time off, the rest is full paid

scenic radish Oct 31, 2019, 2:17 PM

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of course, if you abuse the "unlimited" sick days it would be obvious

clear ferry Oct 31, 2019, 2:18 PM

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but I only worked 250 hours overtime last year though

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I have had closer to 500 most year

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and 700 some years

mystic dagger Oct 31, 2019, 2:27 PM

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What are people using to organize/display/etc their photos? Looking for something that's already containerized, preferably.

scenic radish Oct 31, 2019, 3:06 PM

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I vote to name 0.101.1 the "WKQX update"

wet pilot Oct 31, 2019, 3:16 PM

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i'm partial to WWDC

fallen grove Oct 31, 2019, 4:47 PM

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howto add windwos hdd/ssd status and temparture to homeassistant?

scenic radish Oct 31, 2019, 4:56 PM

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seems like a #330944238910963714 question

clear ferry Oct 31, 2019, 5:27 PM

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Had to do some last minute changes to my Halloween porch

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The camera refused to change state when movement happened, so had to install a Xiaomi motion sensor quickly

scenic radish Oct 31, 2019, 6:26 PM

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rapidamente

clear ferry Oct 31, 2019, 7:11 PM

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Well there was a total of 15 kids on the door 😂

light trout Oct 31, 2019, 7:11 PM

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Is it over?

clear ferry Oct 31, 2019, 7:11 PM

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Apparently

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That's what it is like to live in the boondocks

scenic radish Oct 31, 2019, 7:15 PM

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on the door?

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like, they climbed on your door?

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seems dangerous

clear ferry Oct 31, 2019, 7:18 PM

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My English isn't very good sad

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Don't bash me sad

scenic radish Oct 31, 2019, 7:35 PM

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your english is good lol

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pls no cry

brisk glen Oct 31, 2019, 7:50 PM

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poor kids

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we will not be home for them

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class calls

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my wife is working

scenic radish Oct 31, 2019, 7:51 PM

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it's snowing over here so i wonder how many kids will actually be out

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snowing on october 31...

brisk glen Oct 31, 2019, 7:52 PM

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yah.. its cold

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its never cold

wet pilot Oct 31, 2019, 7:55 PM

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tornado watch here from now until 11p

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probably no kids 😄

brisk glen Oct 31, 2019, 7:56 PM

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ow

scenic radish Oct 31, 2019, 8:09 PM

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yikes

clear ferry Oct 31, 2019, 8:10 PM

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Mmm flying kids

scenic radish Oct 31, 2019, 8:10 PM

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lmao

clear ferry Oct 31, 2019, 8:10 PM

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@scenic radish for know one i whill rite batter English i prowmiss

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sad

scenic radish Oct 31, 2019, 8:11 PM

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you're a funny guy atx lol

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u snigle? 😉

clear ferry Oct 31, 2019, 8:13 PM

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ASL?

scenic radish Oct 31, 2019, 8:14 PM

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98 (on a good day), unknown, dependency hell

clear ferry Oct 31, 2019, 8:15 PM

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So you don't know American sign language? Boring...

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Next!

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It's for church honey

scenic radish Oct 31, 2019, 8:16 PM

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lol

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NEXT!!!

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NEEDS TO SEAT 20!! NEXT!!

unkempt umbra Oct 31, 2019, 8:16 PM

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pack in.

clear ferry Oct 31, 2019, 8:17 PM

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angryboi

scenic radish Oct 31, 2019, 8:19 PM

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we're just about ass to ankles back here. maeby, do you want to hop on your cousin's lap there, please?

clear ferry Oct 31, 2019, 8:20 PM

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Oh lawd, arrested development references

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I just blue myself

scenic radish Oct 31, 2019, 8:22 PM

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who'd like a banger in the mouth??

brisk glen Oct 31, 2019, 8:47 PM

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0.o

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please keep this Alabama free

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(insert redneck music here)

wintry crow Oct 31, 2019, 8:50 PM

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Squeal like a pig...

unreal orbit Oct 31, 2019, 8:54 PM

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Things got real weird when I stepped out for a minute...

scenic radish Oct 31, 2019, 8:55 PM

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lmao

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you ever watch arrested development?

unreal orbit Oct 31, 2019, 8:58 PM

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I did, don't think I got through the latest season

wintry crow Oct 31, 2019, 8:59 PM

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I thought you meant Mr Wendell n stuff

wet pilot Oct 31, 2019, 10:08 PM

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https://www.zdnet.com/article/python-programming-language-creator-retires-saying-its-been-an-amazing-ride/

ZDNet

Python programming language creator retires, saying: 'It's been an...

The creator of the world's most popular programming language goes into retirement.

hasty parcel Oct 31, 2019, 10:53 PM

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these icons look very serious!! 😄

📎 unknown.png

tame moss Nov 1, 2019, 12:23 AM

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how come we cant get something like this for the automation tab?

📎 yaml_editor.png

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honestly would make my life much easier

hushed basalt Nov 1, 2019, 12:27 AM

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I agree

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But wrong channel ;)

amber bramble Nov 1, 2019, 12:59 AM

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when you successfully root your Fire tablets and flash them with LineageOS instead of the dumpster fire known as FireOS https://media.giphy.com/media/wAxlCmeX1ri1y/giphy.gif

Giphy

Romy

hushed basalt Nov 1, 2019, 4:07 AM

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I don't know the difference

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But if it's anything like Prime video it's probably a steaming pile of garbage

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There's no way I would pay for Amazon prime video, the only reason I have prime is for shipping

icy chasm Nov 1, 2019, 4:12 AM

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I get one because of the benefits of the other

hushed basalt Nov 1, 2019, 4:19 AM

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Prime video reminds me of those stalls in the middle of the mall

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That sell crappy movies

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That's the sort of crap that's on there. At least in Australia

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The Boys is literally the only prime original I've liked

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 4:20 AM

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Good Omens was fun

hushed basalt Nov 1, 2019, 4:20 AM

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Agree to disagree

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You're entitled to your own opinions, as long as they're the same as mine

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 4:21 AM

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lol

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i've enjoyed a few Gaiman books

hushed basalt Nov 1, 2019, 4:21 AM

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StOp lIkiNg tHinGs I doNt LiKe

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 4:21 AM

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probably influenced my enjoyment

hushed basalt Nov 1, 2019, 4:22 AM

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Good Omens just felt a little BBCish to me

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Like doctor whoish sort of tone of production

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 4:22 AM

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having tennent probably didn't help that feeling for you

hushed basalt Nov 1, 2019, 4:22 AM

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Indeed

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I don't mind tenant

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Tennant

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Tent Ant

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 4:23 AM

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lol

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it apparently followed the book well and it was set in london

hushed basalt Nov 1, 2019, 4:23 AM

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⛺ 🐜

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He did well in Jessica Jones

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 4:24 AM

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ant didn't render well with darkmode 😛

hushed basalt Nov 1, 2019, 4:24 AM

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And good in that Broadchurch thing

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: 🐜

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Need a white ant

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🥁

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 4:24 AM

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📎 A2W01fL4TjoEgAAAABJRU5ErkJggg.png

hushed basalt Nov 1, 2019, 4:24 AM

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Looks like a shop

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I can tell by the pixels

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Plus I've seen a few in my time

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 4:25 AM

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heh

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i couldn't get in to jack ryan

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i've read a bunch of those books too

hushed basalt Nov 1, 2019, 4:38 AM

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Have you read the Phoenix Project

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Or the goal?

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Or The critical chain

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 4:40 AM

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phoenix project sounds familiar

hushed basalt Nov 1, 2019, 5:48 AM

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You're missing out

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Phoenix Project might be a good first point

rustic lily Nov 1, 2019, 6:38 AM

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Hello all, I just purchased my first home and am fairly new to the home automation scene. The home came with A nest doorbell, thermostat and smoke/CO detector as well as a rachio sprinkler system. I just ordered my first raspberry pi and I want to know whether homebridge or Home Assistant would be the better route for me. I don't mind troubleshooting (I'm a software engineer by trade), but I do want to make this as seamless as possible. I also have a wife who is somewhat reluctantly supportive of my smart home endeavors, so I prefer a system that would cause the least amount of friction in terms of reliability. I realize this is a biased crowed being the HA discord, but nonetheless I would like to hear your thoughts. My main goal is to be able to control everything with siri and the home app.

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 6:42 AM

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nest currently isn't supported due to google breaking the api

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ranchio is though

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i'm not sure if google also broke the homekit integration

rustic lily Nov 1, 2019, 6:43 AM

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Yikes... That's really good to know. So sounds like a no go for either currently?

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 6:44 AM

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home assistant integrates with homekit, so you would potentially have better compatibility in general if you bring that in

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say if you want to pick up hue or zwave or esp based things in the future

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assuming you're married to ios

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if you are open to using google assistant, i think that supports everything directly. ha could be used to do more complex automation

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HA could also be used to expose local only smart devices to GA/Alexa/Homekit

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probably not very helpful, but that's all i got

rustic lily Nov 1, 2019, 6:51 AM

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It was very informative. Thank you. I'm currently pretty sold into the homekit/ios ecosystem, but I think I need to do some more research for the sake of the benefits of being platform agnostic. Buying into zwave etc. sounds like a good a idea... I've heard some great things.

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 6:52 AM

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HA can be used to bridge the gap between zwave and homekit

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i use it to connect up to google assistant and the wife is pretty happy with it so far

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we're full android here though

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HA lets you go further than that though. You can set up fairly complex automation so that things happen automagically

rustic lily Nov 1, 2019, 6:55 AM

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Right, right. Really bummed about that Google thing though... Not willing to shell out more money to replace all the nest products that came with the house. Google home doesn't sound like a bad idea though. My buddy who's a google engineer showed me how easy it was to throw up his baby cam on his chromecast equipped TV. I was in awe.

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 6:56 AM

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if you go with chromecasts, HA can tap in to those too to replicate that behavior with any camera that supports streaming

rustic lily Nov 1, 2019, 6:58 AM

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That's awesome. Well.. Sounds like I left with more questions that answers. But at least I do feel pointed in the right direction. Thank you and goodnight phnx!

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 6:59 AM

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haha welcome to the deep end. Good night and good luck!

hushed basalt Nov 1, 2019, 7:57 AM

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@rustic lily Homeassistant is pretty elegant nowadays

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I think hass.io is even easier

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 7:57 AM

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And I wish people wouldn't confuse Home Assistant and Hass.io 😛

hushed basalt Nov 1, 2019, 7:58 AM

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I find homeassistant is easier to get stuff working than a miss mosh of cloud services which may or may not work together

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I didn't confuse them :p

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 7:59 AM

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Homeassistant is pretty elegant nowadays ... I think hass.io is even easier
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That makes it sound like they're different automation tools, not software and an install method for that software 😉

hushed basalt Nov 1, 2019, 8:01 AM

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I think it's like saying

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Kubernetes is pretty elegant nowadays, I think GKE is even easier.

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Anyways, maybe it's a marketing issue :D

light trout Nov 1, 2019, 8:03 AM

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Mustang is a good car, Ford is better

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 8:03 AM

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I'd have said:

Kubernetes is pretty elegant nowadays, I think GKE is an easy way of using it.

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Homeassistant is pretty elegant nowadays ... I think hass.io is an easy way of using it

light trout Nov 1, 2019, 8:04 AM

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installing it* (the way you use it is identical)

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 8:05 AM

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Yeah

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☕ required

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I'm half a cup in, and lacking sleep

light trout Nov 1, 2019, 8:05 AM

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I'm 3 cups in now 🎉🥳🔥🙈

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 8:06 AM

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If I get 3 cups in it likely means that the world is on fire

low harness Nov 1, 2019, 8:11 AM

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Feeling nitpicky today, Tinkerer?

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 8:12 AM

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Today? No

light trout Nov 1, 2019, 8:12 AM

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It's not limited to today

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 8:13 AM

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Every day? Yes 😛

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There's too much confusion around Ha* as it is, perpetuating it doesn't help newcomers

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Mind you, that's what happens when everything gets named the same 🤷

low harness Nov 1, 2019, 8:14 AM

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I... don't know what to say to that... it's not quite ironic... 🤔

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At least one of the problems are disappearing with the deprecation of hassbian.

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 8:15 AM

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A bit, anyway, though it'll still be around for years to come I'm sure

low harness Nov 1, 2019, 8:16 AM

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There's still HassOS, though. Which doesn't really need to be named anyway.

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 8:16 AM

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I suppose it depends on how close it is to the underlying OS it's based on

light trout Nov 1, 2019, 8:17 AM

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Based on buildroot, since that contains mostly nothing, it's a big difference

low harness Nov 1, 2019, 8:17 AM

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It could just be called hass.io-supervisor or something and be hidden from the end user.

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 8:17 AM

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Ah, but that's the container 😛

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Naming is hard, naming is confusing

light trout Nov 1, 2019, 8:17 AM

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That is one of the containers

low harness Nov 1, 2019, 8:18 AM

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Ha! You got tinkerered!

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And I'm totally going to start using that.

hushed basalt Nov 1, 2019, 8:38 AM

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Just have two services

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Homeassistant in machine code

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And a fully managed service!

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No in between

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Compiled Binary and a SaaS. :d

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Python is just a crutch for those who can't read and write binary

young sigil Nov 1, 2019, 8:49 AM

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pish! binary is just a crutch for people who cant read electron energy bands.

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 8:49 AM

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011010000110010101101100011011000110111100100000011101110110111101110010011011000110010000001010

hushed basalt Nov 1, 2019, 8:55 AM

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Electron energy bands are a crutch for people who can't measure quantum state

young sigil Nov 1, 2019, 9:03 AM

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Try telling that to the kids of today. They wont believe you. https://youtu.be/ue7wM0QC5LE

YouTube

TheFullMontyPython

Four Yorkshiremen- Monty Python

Four Yorkshiremen discuss "the bad old days" and how young people don't properly appreciate what their elders had to go through. Hilarious.

▶ Play video

hushed basalt Nov 1, 2019, 9:26 AM

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Back in my day I was beaten with a stick

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Oh if only I could be beaten with a stick

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I was thrashed with a club

rough zenith Nov 1, 2019, 9:27 AM

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seriously?

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well i got beaten by sorts of stuff before but never a club

hushed basalt Nov 1, 2019, 10:02 AM

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Whoosh

ocean mirage Nov 1, 2019, 10:06 AM

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The context is right there

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 10:08 AM

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At least it was just a flesh wound

hushed basalt Nov 1, 2019, 10:45 AM

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🥁

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 11:34 AM

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tom

mystic dagger Nov 1, 2019, 12:37 PM

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So anyone use anything to manage their photos locally (i.e. no cloud)?

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(I know I asked yesterday, but I'm thinking not everyone scrolls up 🙂 )

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 1:02 PM

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Nah we just ignore you 😉

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Jk, I don't do anything. Google Photos works well for me but I'd definitely consider a local option

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i also don't take many photos to begin with

hushed basalt Nov 1, 2019, 1:13 PM

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@mystic dagger plex is an option

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Although plex has abysmal front end design

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 1:28 PM

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@mystic dagger nextcloud here

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With a SMB mounted share , that gets rsynced to a second site

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Going to get it backed up to Google too when I have time to integrate that

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 1:50 PM

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📎 Snapchat-414708644.jpg

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 1:52 PM

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ROLL TIDE

wintry crow Nov 1, 2019, 2:18 PM

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Ohhhhh do I want 100 feet of custom tape from stickermule for $9..?

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Decisions decisions

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I definitely don't need it

hearty depot Nov 1, 2019, 2:22 PM

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that wasnt the question 😉

wintry crow Nov 1, 2019, 2:22 PM

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Hahah exactly

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I'm now $9 poorer 🙃

tame cove Nov 1, 2019, 2:36 PM

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Hello everyone

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i'm thinking about using my old laptop for Home Assistant or maybe i get the new Raspberry PI 4, the older ones were extremely slow and the SD card was a downside i think

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Extremely is a bit, well, extreme, but not speedy would be true

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I ran HA on a Pi3, using an SD card, for nearly three years

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 2:40 PM

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i also am using a 3 B+

tame cove Nov 1, 2019, 2:40 PM

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the webpage loads quite well ?

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Fine

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 2:40 PM

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quite well

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 2:41 PM

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But, really, if you're spending all the time in the UI, you're doing automation wrong

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 2:41 PM

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☝

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 2:41 PM

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The UI that gets the most use here is Google Assistant's UI - on phone or Home Hub

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HA's interface I use purely for admin purposes

tame cove Nov 1, 2019, 2:42 PM

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i will indeed test it on a newer raspberry i had the older raspberry B

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 2:42 PM

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i've developed my frontend to be used as a mobile app

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 2:42 PM

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Yeah, pre Pi3 sucks - and that's why the docs tell you not to 😉

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 2:43 PM

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but mainly HA is for automation for me

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 2:43 PM

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As it should be

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 2:43 PM

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@clever mortar i'm surprised that the pi 2 isn't listed as "not recommended"

tame cove Nov 1, 2019, 2:44 PM

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it runs on a Pi 2 🙂

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 2:44 PM

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I mean, it's fine for testing

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But, if you want to run in production on it, you're mad

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 2:44 PM

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that's what i mean

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everything before the 2 says "not recommended for more than testing"

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 2:45 PM

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https://open.spotify.com/album/1YRTFKHD0QDO2QAKvU4mLz?si=0QHbfoA0QcmOQncCXBG67w

Spotify

Afterburner

Afterburner, an album by ZZ Top on Spotify

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Play the God drums like a pube

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 2:45 PM

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like a...pube?

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 2:46 PM

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Or a gray

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Depending on your faction

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 2:46 PM

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revved up like a ~~douche~~ deuce, another runner in the night

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 2:46 PM

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Or if you stay in the todash

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Perhaps you just walked through the thinny and will meet your twinner soon

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 2:47 PM

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seems like english, not parsing that though

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 2:47 PM

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But I for one has not forgotten the face of my father

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 2:47 PM

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parse error

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 2:48 PM

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English... is full of words that are just weird

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 2:48 PM

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also @wet pilot, i just had my first spontaneous home assistant restart for the first time in a year. and it's all because of you. YOU MADE ME UPDATE!

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 2:48 PM

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And then there's defenestration

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 2:48 PM

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i know that one

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 2:48 PM

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I see I am in a crowd that cannot parse richardbachmanish

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 2:48 PM

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i was happy on 0.95.4 dammit

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 2:48 PM

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@scenic radish psh

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 2:49 PM

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you threatened my purple name

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 2:49 PM

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haha

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i'm sitting happy on 101.0

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 2:49 PM

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member

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 2:49 PM

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jk it might have been a brief power outage

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but it doesn't totally seem like it

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 2:50 PM

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get a UPS?

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 2:50 PM

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PEBCAK for sure

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 2:50 PM

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i'm not even home atx

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@wet pilot probably should. like i said though, i can't figure out if it actually was an outage

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 2:51 PM

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sitting happy on 101.1 now 😄

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 2:51 PM

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Easy, check the uptime of the rest of your server farm

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 2:52 PM

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🐐

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 2:52 PM

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wtf

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 2:53 PM

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@wet pilot oh, the WKQX update huh?

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 2:53 PM

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WWDC

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 2:53 PM

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false

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 2:54 PM

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Washington DC rock station. Where stern was before moving to new york before moving to XM

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 2:54 PM

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011100012001

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Improved binary

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 2:54 PM

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invalid bit at position 8

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 2:54 PM

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Now with more 2`s

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 2:55 PM

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trinary?

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 2:55 PM

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No, are you mad, that would involve 3`s

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 2:55 PM

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nah, 0,1,2

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 2:55 PM

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-1,0,1 i thought

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 2:56 PM

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Just get rid of the 0, it's just empty space

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 2:56 PM

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lol

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 2:56 PM

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so are you @clear ferry

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 2:56 PM

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sadcat

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 2:56 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/rap-rap-battle-gif-5518154

Tenor

rap

▶ Play video

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 2:57 PM

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I'll remember that when I won't send you a Christmas package

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 2:57 PM

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oh no

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what have i done

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 2:57 PM

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it'll have to be 💩 because they don't have coal there 😛

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 2:57 PM

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muh norwegian things

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 2:57 PM

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HYPERCLAP

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 2:57 PM

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uffda...?

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 2:58 PM

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Uffda indeed for you angryboi

mystic dagger Nov 1, 2019, 2:58 PM

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That's not richardbachmanish

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 2:58 PM

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This guy gets it

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The test was passed

mystic dagger Nov 1, 2019, 2:59 PM

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That's the low speech.

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 2:59 PM

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The chosen one found

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Thankee-sai

mystic dagger Nov 1, 2019, 2:59 PM

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tap tap

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Cocaine-fueled storytelling is a wonderful thing!

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 3:00 PM

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this is a drug-free zone

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except for caffeine

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 3:00 PM

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All things serve the beam you see

mystic dagger Nov 1, 2019, 3:01 PM

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you do realize that to anyone who hasn't read the dark tower books or has forgotten them, you just sound crazy, right?

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 3:01 PM

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so i ordered another pack of wyze contact sensors... and they sent me two packs. contacted them, they told me thanks for the honesty but go ahead and keep them

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🎉

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 3:02 PM

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@mystic dagger but I sound crazy every day 🤷

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 3:02 PM

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tru

mystic dagger Nov 1, 2019, 3:02 PM

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point

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 3:02 PM

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Long days and pleasant nights

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 3:02 PM

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☝

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 3:03 PM

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heh its fun seeing "just work up" atxbyea vs "end of the day" atxbyea

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 3:03 PM

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What ThinkEyes

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 3:04 PM

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i stay up to late and catch you in your mornings sometimes 😛

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 3:04 PM

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My mornings notlikeblob

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My evenings notlikeblob

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Also I should get a restraining order

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I seem to have a stalker!

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ThinkSherlock

light trout Nov 1, 2019, 3:07 PM

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You saw me? 😲

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 3:07 PM

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running

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 3:07 PM

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you good phnx?

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 3:07 PM

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damn

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 3:08 PM

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were you trying to send an IR command?

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 3:08 PM

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no, hardware token

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 3:08 PM

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He let the cat on the keyboard

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 3:08 PM

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Nice, we got his PGP key

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 3:08 PM

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and OSX is 'tarded and doesn't clearly tell you which window has focus

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 3:09 PM

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Permanent Gravy Potato key

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 3:10 PM

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❓

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 3:11 PM

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lol

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 3:12 PM

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Stuck in queues pimph

📎 JPEG_20191101_161142.jpg

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 3:12 PM

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need to add more worker nodes

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 3:12 PM

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Build additional pylons

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 3:12 PM

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YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 3:13 PM

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And 20 Tesla's have passed me in the taxi lane the last 5 minutes ShrekBruh

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 3:19 PM

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damn elon

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i can smell his musk from over here

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 3:19 PM

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Elongated muskrat

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 3:20 PM

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lol

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 3:30 PM

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$350 to rent a Mustang for two weeks in Atlanta ShrekW

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My wife would kill me if I rented one without her though

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 3:32 PM

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haha

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 3:47 PM

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have fun, be safe

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 3:49 PM

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and stay away from cars and coffee, otherwise you'll find yourself crashing into the crowds 😄

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 3:50 PM

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lmao

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RARE COLOR RARE COLOR RARE COLOR

pure vine Nov 1, 2019, 4:25 PM

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So while looking at the FTTP plans I discovered getting it with a phoneline is very expenive becuse Line Rental is expensive, but i have found out that a lot of home voip providers are cheap, But reviews of them are far and few between. Anyone in the UK have any experince with them? and have you found one you like?

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 4:28 PM

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I've used SIPGate on and off over the years, no issues with them

strange vapor Nov 1, 2019, 4:28 PM

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📎 unknown.png

pure vine Nov 1, 2019, 4:36 PM

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@clever mortar they looks quite good, and Luckaly have number porting

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 4:36 PM

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They provide some inbound numbers I use - we've moved enough that it's handy to have "local" numbers for friends to call

pure vine Nov 1, 2019, 4:37 PM

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My family would need to keep our current number as it is listed in out churches phone book and a lot of the older members of the church call it so it would be peferable to keep it

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 4:38 PM

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Also means that when you're away, you can have your mobile manage the number too

pure vine Nov 1, 2019, 4:38 PM

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yeah

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thats the main reason i want it, The ISP(Zen) i want to move to also provides a fritz box that will also enable us to continue using our dect phone with a voip provider

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 4:39 PM

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Nice

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My ISP also does Fritz boxes, and it's not a bad little box

pure vine Nov 1, 2019, 4:39 PM

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probably becuse we are both talking about zen

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 4:40 PM

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Aye 😉

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Just, don't use the Fritz device tracker

pure vine Nov 1, 2019, 4:40 PM

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Is it very broken

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 4:40 PM

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On my box it caused it to fall over eventually, out of RAM

pure vine Nov 1, 2019, 4:40 PM

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Im tempted to not even use the box as a router, just use it as a VoIP bridge, as i allready have a pretty competent router

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 4:40 PM

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I've been very happy with Zen though, proper smart techs when you run into issues

pure vine Nov 1, 2019, 4:42 PM

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Ive read on a pfsense fourm when i was googling if you could have both ipv6 and ipv4 that they are quite good too

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 4:42 PM

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Yeah, they've been IPv6 capable for a while now, and IPv6 + IPv4 by default for at least 3 years

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Probably 4+

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I run dual stack on my home network - I can reach HA over IPv6 😄

strange vapor Nov 1, 2019, 4:43 PM

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Had a Fritzbox for a while, but replaced it with a Draytek.

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Native dual stack from the ISP which is handy.

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The Fritzbox wifi was, em, shit!

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 4:45 PM

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Yeah, I've found it to be underwhelming

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I've an old AP that's still in use, until I make my mind up about whether I go Microtik or Unifi

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That should happen somewhere around 2050 or so

pure vine Nov 1, 2019, 4:47 PM

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Ill probably use the OpenWRT running router i currently have and just have the fritzbox for voip dect stuff

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 4:48 PM

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i can't access my setup remotely at work because my workplace blocks dynamic dns providers 😦

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 4:48 PM

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gogo ip

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 4:48 PM

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So, buy your own domain, they're cheap 😉

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 4:48 PM

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or that

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 4:48 PM

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was thinking of doing exactly that

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i took the nabu casa approach and made my duckdns domain a random string of characters lol

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and used a high port number

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security by obscurity

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 4:49 PM

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It works

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I've had my access on a random port from the start, and I've had less than a dozen probes over the last 3 years

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 4:50 PM

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that's good to hear

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it honestly baffles me why people don't use high ports more often

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it adds no difficulty to the setup

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 4:50 PM

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Because many folks have HTTPS == 443 stuck in their brains

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And don't get that the computer doesn't care

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 4:50 PM

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yeah that's true

pure vine Nov 1, 2019, 4:51 PM

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sipgates tarrifs are good

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 4:51 PM

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For much fun, run an OpenVPN server on the same port, doing pass through 😉

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 4:52 PM

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interesting

pure vine Nov 1, 2019, 4:54 PM

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Huh, sipgate is a german company

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 4:54 PM

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9⃣9⃣9⃣

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 4:55 PM

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1⃣ 1⃣ 2⃣

pure vine Nov 1, 2019, 4:57 PM

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Huh, arround since 2004, they look pretty firm then

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@clever mortar do you pay for incoming calls?

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 4:58 PM

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No, they get the usual termination costs from the calling company

pure vine Nov 1, 2019, 4:58 PM

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ah ok

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Im tempted to signup now to try it out and port the number when we finally move isp, they look quite good

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 5:04 PM

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No reason not to

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I've got multiple numbers through them

pure vine Nov 1, 2019, 5:05 PM

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they block international calls by default. YES.

strange vapor Nov 1, 2019, 5:07 PM

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@scenic radish Was visiting a company where they were doing the same block. Their security person who called in to unblock the url I wanted was very annoyed when I ahad already got around it using DoH....

pure vine Nov 1, 2019, 5:07 PM

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😬 £30 porting fee

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 5:08 PM

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@strange vapor lol i love it

strange vapor Nov 1, 2019, 5:11 PM

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@scenic radish He REALLY didn't as there was some severe company politics happening over in the introduction of those device, Palo Alto I think, and having a random person off trivially bypass it in front of 50 or so of their engineers wasn't going to help 🙂

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 5:18 PM

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I bet he didn't 😆

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 5:30 PM

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Lol looks like it is snowing cats and dogs back home

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http://weather.cs.uit.no/panorama/

Weather observations, UiT The Arctic University of Norway, Departm...

Tromsø Weather picture video rain snow temperature humidity wind sun pressure Vær bilde regn snø temperatur vind sol.

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 5:32 PM

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Don't you mean cåts and døgs?

light trout Nov 1, 2019, 5:33 PM

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katter og hunder

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 5:36 PM

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I only speak norwenglish

light trout Nov 1, 2019, 5:36 PM

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same here

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 5:37 PM

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Katzen und hunden

light trout Nov 1, 2019, 5:38 PM

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🐱 && 🐶

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 5:38 PM

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Neko Oro Inu

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 5:38 PM

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Nah, pretty sure it's cåts and døgs

last plaza Nov 1, 2019, 6:18 PM

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I don't understand 😉

📎 unknown.png

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I like speed, but not in sweden I guess 😂

unreal orbit Nov 1, 2019, 6:19 PM

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"The need for speed" seems like not such a great phrase now

static schooner Nov 1, 2019, 6:19 PM

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I recognize that from the Simpsons

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I learn all my Swedish from cartoons

last plaza Nov 1, 2019, 6:19 PM

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lmao

static schooner Nov 1, 2019, 6:20 PM

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Bart found it hilarious, and I concur

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I'm also apparently 10 years old

last plaza Nov 1, 2019, 6:20 PM

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I was reading some article, and found that - had to test it myself

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 6:21 PM

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it's ok, i'm 27 and penis jokes are still funny

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don't you mean you were reading a... farticle?

last plaza Nov 1, 2019, 6:21 PM

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lol

light trout Nov 1, 2019, 6:22 PM

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@clever mortar @last plaza @dull chasm see, I'm not the youngest anymore! 🎉 ☝ ☝

unreal orbit Nov 1, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Guess everyone's age... that could be a fun game

light trout Nov 1, 2019, 6:22 PM

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@unreal orbit == 76

unreal orbit Nov 1, 2019, 6:23 PM

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only at heart

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 6:28 PM

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lol @light trout how old are you?

light trout Nov 1, 2019, 6:28 PM

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28 😂

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 6:28 PM

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ah damn lol

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 6:29 PM

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huh, didn't think i was older than you

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29 in a few days

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 6:29 PM

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i guess i get the young 🏆

light trout Nov 1, 2019, 6:29 PM

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I've been the yougest (active) member (That I know of) since I joined 2-3y ago 😛

unreal orbit Nov 1, 2019, 6:30 PM

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Not since I've been around 😉

light trout Nov 1, 2019, 6:30 PM

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Really? 😄

unreal orbit Nov 1, 2019, 6:30 PM

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26

light trout Nov 1, 2019, 6:31 PM

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Was not aware!

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 6:31 PM

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@unreal orbit you're younger than me?!

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guess i'm not the 👶 anymore

light trout Nov 1, 2019, 6:31 PM

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That or he cant count 🤷

unreal orbit Nov 1, 2019, 6:31 PM

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It would appear that way mindblown

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 6:32 PM

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Fscking kids - get off my lawn 😛

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 6:33 PM

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there are youths everywhere

low harness Nov 1, 2019, 6:33 PM

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This discussion reminds me of the saying that ”det är inte farten som dödar, det är smällen”

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Or, translated, ”it’s not the fart that kills you, it’s the smell”

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 6:34 PM

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a big enough fart could probably kill you

low harness Nov 1, 2019, 6:36 PM

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(Actual translation is ”it’s not the speed that kills you, it’s the crash”)

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 6:36 PM

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yeah that makes sense

light trout Nov 1, 2019, 6:38 PM

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Wan't it Solberg that said that? 🤔

low harness Nov 1, 2019, 6:38 PM

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The astute watcher may have gotten a free lesson in Swedish there. Ä is pronounced like the e in smell. And by extension You Can’t Just Put Dots Over Random Letters.

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 6:38 PM

#

Wayne Gretzky
Michael Scott

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I can if I wänt to

low harness Nov 1, 2019, 6:39 PM

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God I miss 3D touch! That typo took AGES to fix!

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 6:42 PM

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hmm?

static schooner Nov 1, 2019, 6:42 PM

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I'm still rocking an XS Max and I'm annoyed at the UI compromises Apple had to make to support long press

#

3D touch was underused, but much quicker in some cases

#

rearranging apps on the home screen is a real pain the ass now

low harness Nov 1, 2019, 6:44 PM

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Hear!

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 7:02 PM

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@last plaza my father laughs when driving over speed bumps in Sweden

dull chasm Nov 1, 2019, 7:35 PM

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@light trout you are still the youngen to me ....sorry

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but with much love and gratetude

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sorry typing with one hand

#

kinda like a son

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 7:56 PM

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But you are twice my age @dull chasm

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❤

#

flushedOMG

boreal pewter Nov 1, 2019, 8:10 PM

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Twice your age is death

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 8:12 PM

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But I am in my prime time! The early fifties!

boreal pewter Nov 1, 2019, 8:12 PM

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You spelled 59 wrong

clear ferry Nov 1, 2019, 8:14 PM

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👴

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 9:20 PM

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@unreal orbit @clever mortar i just asked one of the IT guys at work if he could unblock my duckdns address and he said yeah

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that was easy lol

#

💥

unkempt basin Nov 1, 2019, 10:31 PM

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That is because us IT Admins try to be nice/reasonable guys/gals

clever mortar Nov 1, 2019, 10:32 PM

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https://www.theregister.co.uk/data_centre/bofh/ says otherwise 😛

hearty depot Nov 1, 2019, 10:33 PM

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The company survived the disaster recovery test. Just. The Director's car, however... 🤣

unkempt basin Nov 1, 2019, 10:37 PM

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Well can't argue with that one

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 11:01 PM

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It was indeed a brief power outage that restarted my server this morning. Time to get a UPS

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No data corruption tho

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this time

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 11:01 PM

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take back your blame!

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 11:03 PM

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sigh I'm... sorry phnx

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 11:03 PM

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🙂

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 11:03 PM

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Wait...it was you that took my power out, wasn't it?!

#

you wanted this to happen

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 11:04 PM

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https://i.imgflip.com/2zcc6x.jpg

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 11:04 PM

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Lol

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 11:05 PM

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Airplane!

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 11:22 PM

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@unkempt basin I don't believe it 😉

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Plus they seemed interested in home assistant

unkempt basin Nov 1, 2019, 11:24 PM

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Well that is a bonus 😂

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 11:29 PM

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Maybe they'll block it again if they don't like it 🤔

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 11:31 PM

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maybe they'll block it to spite you

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better bring in a bribe

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 11:34 PM

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Got it. Donuts.

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 11:34 PM

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whiskey

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any glen will do

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 11:34 PM

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Even better

#

Alright listen: Jewel has a house brand spicy Italian sausage pizza that's amazing

wet pilot Nov 1, 2019, 11:40 PM

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what's jewel?

static schooner Nov 1, 2019, 11:42 PM

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supermarket in the midwest

scenic radish Nov 1, 2019, 11:42 PM

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It's not super spicy unfortunately but it's still good

static plinth Nov 2, 2019, 12:13 AM

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@Tediore I dont know much about UPS but I know AIMS sells rack-mount lithium iron phosphate batteries and inverters. I dont know how code compliant it is, but you could store a few kwh of batteries without it being a huge deal I think...

quartz ether Nov 2, 2019, 12:36 AM

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Just got a phone call for one of my businesses that the alarm was going off. Looked at the cameras and its the freaking cops breaking in looking for someone

wet pilot Nov 2, 2019, 12:37 AM

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joy

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call the next level cops on them for trespassing? 😄

quartz ether Nov 2, 2019, 12:54 AM

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Usually they just ring me I deal with them every day. Will be an interesting conversation later this evening.

rapid musk Nov 2, 2019, 1:59 AM

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If any of you guys homelab, let me know. Got a pretty neat server I found I’m trying to help promote. Not sure if I’m allowed to post in here so DM me for the link.

scenic radish Nov 2, 2019, 2:08 AM

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@static plinth thanks for the tip, I'll take a look

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@rapid musk you should be ok as long as it's not spam/self-promotion

rapid musk Nov 2, 2019, 2:10 AM

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Fair enough, thank you

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https://discord.gg/qGC8PDA

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Not even sure if that worked, it says joined on my side

wet pilot Nov 2, 2019, 2:10 AM

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it worked

rapid musk Nov 2, 2019, 2:12 AM

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Thank you

static plinth Nov 2, 2019, 2:16 AM

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tediore what I'm thinking about with a rack-mounted inverter is hours of backup rather than minutes, Also kind of interesting to thing about distributing batteries through the house rather than having them all in one place

scenic radish Nov 2, 2019, 2:27 AM

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Yeah that's an interesting concept for sure

young sigil Nov 2, 2019, 2:29 AM

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Yeah why have the fire risk in just one location? 🙃

scenic radish Nov 2, 2019, 2:30 AM

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Lmao

#

Hello again tom

young sigil Nov 2, 2019, 2:31 AM

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Good moaning

scenic radish Nov 2, 2019, 2:31 AM

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Morning?! It's 9:31 pm here

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21:31, sry

young sigil Nov 2, 2019, 2:31 AM

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It's 1:30pm here but I just got up so it's morning.

scenic radish Nov 2, 2019, 2:52 AM

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Lol yikes

young sigil Nov 2, 2019, 3:54 AM

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Right. Everything is ready for the world cup match on the 3m screen tonight. Lamb backstraps marinating, BBQ kind of clean, beer on ice. Now who's tradesman's entrance do I insert this pitchfork in over the utter shambles called scenes in 0.101?

scenic radish Nov 2, 2019, 3:55 AM

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"kind of clean" lol

young sigil Nov 2, 2019, 3:56 AM

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You don't want to remove all the flavour.

scenic radish Nov 2, 2019, 3:56 AM

#

u rite

scenic radish Nov 2, 2019, 4:29 AM

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Also I haven't used scenes so I unfortunately can't rel8

young sigil Nov 2, 2019, 4:34 AM

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I'm a little bit 😡

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Probably should just walk away for a day or so and calm down.

scenic radish Nov 2, 2019, 4:35 AM

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Roll back?

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That's what I've done at least. But I'm running a Hassio install, not sure how you installed HASS

wet pilot Nov 2, 2019, 4:40 AM

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he didn't upgrade yet

young sigil Nov 2, 2019, 4:40 AM

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Yeah I noticed it just before upgrading.

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So held off.

wet pilot Nov 2, 2019, 4:41 AM

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as far as i can tell, either the change wasn't intended and this is a bug, or it is a bug that it ever worked that way

scenic radish Nov 2, 2019, 4:41 AM

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Ohhhhhhh gotcha

young sigil Nov 2, 2019, 4:41 AM

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It looks intended to me. Read the additional information here: https://github.com/home-assistant/home-assistant/pull/27182

GitHub

Add improved scene support to the light integration by Santobert ...

Description:
Add improved scene support to the light integration.
Related issue (if applicable): fixes #26962
Checklist:

The code change is tested and works locally.
Local tests pass with tox. Y...

wet pilot Nov 2, 2019, 4:42 AM

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ah

scenic radish Nov 2, 2019, 4:43 AM

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Seems like they want to make it match the available state attributes

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Which I can understand I suppose but that's a pretty substantial change

wet pilot Nov 2, 2019, 4:45 AM

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so reading the PR and the related closed issue, looks like you're stuck then

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so colorname you could probably fix by putting in the hs/rgb/xy colors directly

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color temp seems like a miss though

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unless that maps to one of the color things too

young sigil Nov 2, 2019, 4:55 AM

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I think I can use mireds instead of kelvin as that appears in the light attributes

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Yeah I can. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mired Just making a conversion spreadsheet for my temps now.

Mired

Contracted from the term micro reciprocal degree, the mired is a unit of measurement used to express color temperature. It is given by the formula:

wet pilot Nov 2, 2019, 4:57 AM

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that might be what the platform does in the background anyway

young sigil Nov 2, 2019, 4:57 AM

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I suspect so.

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Ok I'll put my pitchfork away for now. Geez there's a lot to change though.

wet pilot Nov 2, 2019, 4:58 AM

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i thinki understand the decision. more warning would have been nice though

young sigil Nov 2, 2019, 4:58 AM

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Yep

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It wasn't really mentioned as a breaking change.

wet pilot Nov 2, 2019, 5:00 AM

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that was completely missed. The PR wasn't tagged breaking until after because it wasn't caught

young sigil Nov 2, 2019, 5:00 AM

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I guess they're only human. Where is my built by robots for robots software?

clear ferry Nov 2, 2019, 6:15 AM

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presidentsleeper

clear ferry Nov 2, 2019, 9:06 AM

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Just more and more snow back home

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📎 Screenshot_20191102_100558.jpg

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And we only have rain here sad

wary sorrel Nov 2, 2019, 9:27 AM

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We don't get sown here

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just lots of sun 😋

light trout Nov 2, 2019, 9:30 AM

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@clear ferry can you talk to one of your peeps and have them ship some of that snow down to us?

clear ferry Nov 2, 2019, 9:33 AM

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I hear rumours we are getting it on Monday anyway

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🌨

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@wary sorrel snow is always more fun than sun 😛

wary sorrel Nov 2, 2019, 9:42 AM

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don't eat yellow snow

clear ferry Nov 2, 2019, 9:44 AM

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This is true

light trout Nov 2, 2019, 9:44 AM

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Beer sowcones 😍

clear ferry Nov 2, 2019, 9:44 AM

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Or like when my dog took a shit in the winter of 97

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The shit just melted down 1.5 meters into the snow

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I was not about to go digging

ocean mirage Nov 2, 2019, 9:50 AM

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You are a criminal and I have alerted the authorities

clear ferry Nov 2, 2019, 9:54 AM

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Ow no, pweese poweese offisew, is thewe nowt anywing I can doo to get owt of twis? monkaReverse @ocean mirage

ocean mirage Nov 2, 2019, 9:54 AM

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Oh god please just stop that

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that will do

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Thats not something I ever expected to read from a middle aged Norwegian man

clear ferry Nov 2, 2019, 9:55 AM

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UwU

ocean mirage Nov 2, 2019, 9:56 AM

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Also never call me officer again

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that will do

clear ferry Nov 2, 2019, 9:56 AM

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Okay daddy xi2

ocean mirage Nov 2, 2019, 9:56 AM

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thats much better at least

clear ferry Nov 2, 2019, 9:56 AM

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harold

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https://open.spotify.com/album/24E6rDvGDuYFjlGewp4ntF?si=NLqE-hnvTJWZVwdDykTaSQ

Spotify

Evil Empire

Evil Empire, an album by Rage Against The Machine on Spotify

light trout Nov 2, 2019, 10:21 AM

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https://open.spotify.com/track/0NBD4g9Zwy1rMAMWBYS6Ju?si=Tpam1T7RT_6_Khul1UdswA

scenic radish Nov 2, 2019, 12:45 PM

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So I enabled remote access again with duckdns, etc. I could have sworn to cast local audio I could just change http://my-ip to https://my-ip in the URL for the media files, but that doesn't work...I have to use the base URL. Am I crazy or has it always been this way?

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To clarify, before enabling remote access, I was able to cast local media to my Google Homes using http://my-ip/dir-to-mp3

light trout Nov 2, 2019, 12:49 PM

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#330944238910963714

scenic radish Nov 2, 2019, 12:49 PM

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But I like the guys in lounge more

light trout Nov 2, 2019, 12:50 PM

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So do I, but folow the topics

hushed basalt Nov 2, 2019, 12:50 PM

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Like a cat that doesn't want to leave the room

scenic radish Nov 2, 2019, 12:50 PM

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Jk, just messing

hushed basalt Nov 2, 2019, 12:50 PM

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"It's nicer in here, hissss!"

amber ice Nov 2, 2019, 1:13 PM

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Anyone can tell me what the offical name for the "playlist" with your saved songs (The Songs you press the ❤ -icon) in spotify is called? I'm not using the app in English 🙂

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#330944238910963714 @tepid coyote

clever mortar Nov 2, 2019, 1:17 PM

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Please take a moment to read the channel topics 😉

light trout Nov 2, 2019, 1:17 PM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/330944238910963714/640170687608389632 @amber ice

tepid coyote Nov 2, 2019, 1:17 PM

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Ok, will do sorry about that!

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Deleted so I don't fill up this lounge channel.

clear ferry Nov 2, 2019, 2:07 PM

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https://open.spotify.com/track/42DyyEfxbPexSiFVz4OnWH?si=WDpESt_cS0mL59K6N_DI6A

Spotify

Ladyboy

Ladyboy, a song by Lindemann on Spotify

wary mica Nov 2, 2019, 2:10 PM

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just wanted to pop in and say thanks all for the help and pushes, im swimming and chugging along with more and more integrations

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appreciate y'all

clear ferry Nov 2, 2019, 2:11 PM

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That is what we are here for 🎉

scenic radish Nov 2, 2019, 4:02 PM

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And to provide sarcasm when appropriate

clever mortar Nov 2, 2019, 4:25 PM

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Sarcasm is always appropriate

prime copper Nov 2, 2019, 5:44 PM

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Hey there, does it sound like a bad idea to plan a full zwave lighting without physical switches?

scenic radish Nov 2, 2019, 5:48 PM

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Without switches of any sort of probably a bad idea as far as UX, yeah

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And possibly WAF

strange vapor Nov 2, 2019, 5:50 PM

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@prime copper I prefer as much automation as possible, but us humans are unpredictable arseholes, so switch backup is handy.

prime copper Nov 2, 2019, 5:51 PM

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@strange vapor Sound like a good idea to prepare for it

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Even more if the place is rented

scenic radish Nov 2, 2019, 5:54 PM

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Plus if your server is down for whatever reason your lights aren't useless

prime copper Nov 2, 2019, 5:55 PM

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You could still have standalone zwave remote

scenic radish Nov 2, 2019, 5:55 PM

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Right

prime copper Nov 2, 2019, 5:56 PM

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But I'll go the retardproof way I guess

scenic radish Nov 2, 2019, 5:56 PM

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Lol

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That's one way of putting it I guess

prime copper Nov 2, 2019, 5:59 PM

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that s a bit complicated :p

clever mortar Nov 2, 2019, 6:00 PM

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You can have switches wired to your Z-Wave modules, so that local and remote control works

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That's how it's normally done

clear ferry Nov 2, 2019, 6:00 PM

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The tediore proof way!

prime copper Nov 2, 2019, 6:05 PM

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@clever mortar So the switch is only to the zwave module, is there a bypass?

clever mortar Nov 2, 2019, 6:05 PM

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Not in that setup

prime copper Nov 2, 2019, 6:05 PM

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If the switches breaks there is no light

clever mortar Nov 2, 2019, 6:05 PM

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https://www.vesternet.com/pages/apnt-1-installing-fibaro-dimmer-modules

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Sure, but you were talking about having no switches anyway 😉

prime copper Nov 2, 2019, 6:07 PM

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:p

abstract hinge Nov 2, 2019, 9:28 PM

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Hey guys, mabye a stupid question. How hard would it be to find a pet feeder I can implement in home assistant or build one my self that I can implement

light trout Nov 2, 2019, 9:29 PM

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@clever mortar How about a channel with channels?
#channels, placed between #rules & #the-water-cooler
A read only channel, with a list of other channels (including a description (topic)) ?

clever mortar Nov 2, 2019, 9:29 PM

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🤔

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That's ... not insane

clear ferry Nov 2, 2019, 9:29 PM

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ahem

scenic radish Nov 2, 2019, 9:29 PM

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pretty good idea

abstract hinge Nov 2, 2019, 9:29 PM

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That doesn't sound to bad of an idea

clever mortar Nov 2, 2019, 9:29 PM

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#diy-archived could help you build one @abstract hinge - not sure how many smart ones exist

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Based on my experience with dumb ones, dogs can take them apart to get the food 😄

abstract hinge Nov 2, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Thank God I only have a kitty that is becoming fat

clear ferry Nov 2, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Mmmm fat kitty

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An absolute unit

abstract hinge Nov 2, 2019, 9:30 PM

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All I just have to fight with now is the tuya stuff not using an esp

clear ferry Nov 2, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Chonkerino

abstract hinge Nov 2, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Do I have to pay cat tax?

clear ferry Nov 2, 2019, 9:31 PM

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Should be easily built with esp though

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Fatcattax

abstract hinge Nov 2, 2019, 9:31 PM

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Yea I was thinking the same

scenic radish Nov 2, 2019, 9:31 PM

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you absolutely have to pay the cat tax

clear ferry Nov 2, 2019, 9:31 PM

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Say that five times in a row

low harness Nov 2, 2019, 9:31 PM

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Instructables is crawling with automated pet feeders.

abstract hinge Nov 2, 2019, 9:31 PM

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What channel do I need to post it the cat tax

low harness Nov 2, 2019, 9:31 PM

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Just strap an esp onto any one of them, and call it a day

scenic radish Nov 2, 2019, 9:31 PM

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show me your p-- kitty

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this one works

clever mortar Nov 2, 2019, 9:32 PM

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Anything not-Home Assistant related is on topic here - as long as it's not banned in the channel topic 😉

abstract hinge Nov 2, 2019, 9:32 PM

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📎 IMG_20191102_223121.jpg

scenic radish Nov 2, 2019, 9:32 PM

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that's a mighty fine kitty you've got there

clever mortar Nov 2, 2019, 9:32 PM

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The cat in it's natural state - sleeping

abstract hinge Nov 2, 2019, 9:32 PM

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I also have a pic of her waiting for me to get home

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Have to search for it tho

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📎 IMG_20181228_191041.jpg

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When she wasn't a fat chonker

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And yes I was planning on getting a pet feeder and dropping a esp8266 or esp32 in it

clear ferry Nov 2, 2019, 9:35 PM

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Kawaii

scenic radish Nov 2, 2019, 9:35 PM

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attack mode

clear ferry Nov 2, 2019, 9:35 PM

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SmilingWithHearts

abstract hinge Nov 2, 2019, 9:36 PM

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Pfff, why did tuya have to be a bitch and not use esp's but some pin compatable shit running different stuff

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Ffs, found it back they are using RTL chips that are pin compatable with esp-12

clear ferry Nov 2, 2019, 9:43 PM

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Wooop

abstract hinge Nov 2, 2019, 9:44 PM

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To be exact WR3L

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Someone posted something about it In issue at tuya conver

zenith gust Nov 3, 2019, 2:18 AM

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Today I learned the hard way that you can't simply change the standard "80" host of the let's encrypt plugin to whatever port you want to run the HTTP challenge through whatever port you want

wary sorrel Nov 3, 2019, 6:11 AM

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Just clean up all my .yaml files it was so eazy with Frank new vs code add-on 😋

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 6:38 AM

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Cleaning? What is that? 😛

hushed basalt Nov 3, 2019, 6:44 AM

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Got my aws invoice

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Might be a bit challenging to pay

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 6:45 AM

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ThinkEyes

hushed basalt Nov 3, 2019, 6:45 AM

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AWS Service Charges USD 0.51
Charges (excl. GST) USD 0.46
Credits/Discount USD 0.00
Net Charges (After Credits/Discount, excl. GST) USD 0.46
Total GST Amount at 10% AUD 0.07

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May have to ask for a loan

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 6:45 AM

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Better pawn the kid

hushed basalt Nov 3, 2019, 6:46 AM

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She's just starting to talk too

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Oh well

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Gotta earn her keep

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 6:46 AM

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Mine only says mamamamamamama and da

hushed basalt Nov 3, 2019, 6:47 AM

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Mine is saying dadadadada

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 6:47 AM

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But shes been walking for over a month

hushed basalt Nov 3, 2019, 6:47 AM

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Free walking?

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 6:47 AM

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Yeah

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Hates socks, prefers barefoot, tolerates shoes

hushed basalt Nov 3, 2019, 6:48 AM

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How old

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In months, not seconds since 1970

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 6:48 AM

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Born the 18th of October, so 12.5 months? Started at 11ish

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EPOCH TIME ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU?

hushed basalt Nov 3, 2019, 6:49 AM

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1 day after my birthday

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Mine is 9 months

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 6:49 AM

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Mine talked more at 9 months than now 😂

hushed basalt Nov 3, 2019, 6:49 AM

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She's so close to walking. She can walk with furniture

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I need to fix her walker

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 6:50 AM

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Yeah, she walked with furniture at that age too, but it took some time to freewalk

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Starting kindergarten tomorrow notlikeblob

hushed basalt Nov 3, 2019, 6:51 AM

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She knows how to press my Xiaomi switches

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Wow we don't start kindergarten that early

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I remember going to kindergarten. That's how late it is

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Unless you mean you're starting kindergarten tomorrow

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In that case I think you might be a lost cause

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 6:52 AM

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We usually start around one year, because maternity leave is roughly one year, but since my wife got no maternity leave and I got all of it we have held it off a little 😂

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My daughter presses a Xiaomi button every morning to wake up the house 😂

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We get 40 or 50 weeks leave from the state

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But with new rules at work I will actually get 26 weeks extra from them if I get another kid

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Lol just got a picture from my father, it appears to be snowing quite a bit

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📎 Screenshot_20191103_080048_com.snapchat.android.jpg

boreal pewter Nov 3, 2019, 8:06 AM

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Where is your Unimog now

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 8:20 AM

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Pff, old school quattro 4 lyfe

hushed basalt Nov 3, 2019, 8:35 AM

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Thatsalotofsnow

boreal pewter Nov 3, 2019, 8:40 AM

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📎 e79.jpg

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 8:50 AM

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@hushed basalt not really, only 49cms

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The record is almost 4 metres

clever mortar Nov 3, 2019, 8:51 AM

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Where did my car go

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I've been in the US when they got about 2 meters of snow - that was enough fun

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 8:53 AM

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Nice, we had an idiot in a Tesla last night who crashed into two barriers because he was driving on auto pilot and probably wanking off

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@clever mortar did it look like this there too? https://www.google.com/search?q=tromsø+1997&safe=off&client=ms-android-huawei-rev1&prmd=imsvn&sxsrf=ACYBGNRcMYJK7CPuCDdKCxduPoykydW7Vw:1572771209307&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjrlvmp1c3lAhXiy6YKHaCDDjMQ_AUoAXoECA8QAQ&biw=360&bih=664#imgrc=4Wzv11wCO4doPM 😂

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Damn that's a ugly url

clever mortar Nov 3, 2019, 8:54 AM

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🤣

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Not as bad as that, but literally we couldn't find the car in the car park that morning

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It was just a field of snow, with bumps where the cars had been

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 8:59 AM

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😂

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That is every winter here

clever mortar Nov 3, 2019, 9:03 AM

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In the UK we rarely get snow like that. Half a meter is the end of the world, and if you're in the South of England 5 snow flakes is a disaster 😛

light trout Nov 3, 2019, 9:04 AM

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imagine 5 ❄ in here at the same time, that would also be a disaster

modest hollow Nov 3, 2019, 9:05 AM

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Anyone with Unifi network(usg,...) HA on Nginx and Nextcloud? If UPNP is enabled it block Nginx, if UPNP disabled, nextcloud do not work? This was working before Unifi, also Nas OMV was working-this is no go on Unifi now, wont even start. Why is so much problems on Unifi?

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 9:07 AM

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Nextcloud works fine without upnp on proper networks 😛

modest hollow Nov 3, 2019, 9:08 AM

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Tell me more, please! Unifi should be proper network for 1k? But i have doubts:) It is NextcloudPI wich need UPNP

light trout Nov 3, 2019, 9:09 AM

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1: Disable UPNP.
2: Fix your traffic (routes and ports)
3: Be happy

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 9:10 AM

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👆

modest hollow Nov 3, 2019, 9:10 AM

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Routes? Ports are fixed, opened for nginx, also try to open for nextcloud

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 9:11 AM

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If your nginx is in front of the nextcloud you shouldn't need to open anything

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I have 80 and 443 pointed toward my frontend Apache server, and 15 webservers behind that

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I think I have a total of 7 firewall rules if memory serves right, everything else is drop and no upnp

modest hollow Nov 3, 2019, 9:13 AM

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yeah i know, it works on other networks, only Unifi make problems. If is UPNP disabled, Nexcloud work only at home, If UPNP enabled, then nextcoud works, but can only acces HA and samba at home

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There are also firewall routes for nginx, should I add manula something?

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 9:13 AM

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🤷 don't use nginx and double firewall rules 🤢

boreal pewter Nov 3, 2019, 9:14 AM

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Traefik

modest hollow Nov 3, 2019, 9:14 AM

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delete all firewall routes? I was all working on 2 different router before! only this USG is messing, hate this Unifi

light trout Nov 3, 2019, 9:15 AM

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return it then

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 9:15 AM

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Pfsense 4 lyfe ❤

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Been using it for 15 years except for last year I tried untangle, but I came back home

modest hollow Nov 3, 2019, 9:17 AM

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I am a Noob not an expert! But this starter things, should be working anywhere!

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 9:17 AM

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🤷

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I usually hear more problems than working things when users come here with unifi questions

modest hollow Nov 3, 2019, 9:22 AM

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Neighbor has it, uneblivable how much problems has he now. And this should be some profesional networking? And fro this price, over 1k E it is a joke

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 9:23 AM

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I haven't paid a $ for my network equipment the last 20 years, except the Linksys mesh WiFi I bought last year 😂

modest hollow Nov 3, 2019, 9:24 AM

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I have also router from ISP and bought only wifi mesh from tp-link, two AP for 80e

light trout Nov 3, 2019, 9:29 AM

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You should probably contact Unifi support.
If you dind't know, this is not it

strange vapor Nov 3, 2019, 9:29 AM

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I have a nice Unifi setup with multiple ESSIDs and VLANs which just works... Beginning to wonder if I've just been lucky!

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 9:30 AM

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I used to have a Cisco network from 2004-2008, then I moved over to procurve, and from 2013 and onward I've run a hybrid procurve,comware,Cisco network, and pfsense through all iterations 🤷

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Combined lab and production

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As all enterprise networks usually end up being sad

strange vapor Nov 3, 2019, 9:32 AM

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Keep it relatively simple, and they're usually fairly OK. As soon as you start using the "enterprise" features which were mostly demanded by Sales people as extra line items, good luck!!

light trout Nov 3, 2019, 9:32 AM

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Are there any pi size boards with dual 1G network I can use as a pfsense box?

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 9:33 AM

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Quite a few, but usually costly

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Netgate has a few of their own

light trout Nov 3, 2019, 9:33 AM

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Looked at those, would be cheaper to build something

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 9:33 AM

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But I run it on a AliExpress computer now, paid 1000nok or something

light trout Nov 3, 2019, 9:34 AM

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With my luck, import tax on that would be 5K...

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 9:34 AM

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NOK 694.88 51%OFF | Mini PC Celeron J1900 Quad Core Windows 10 Dual LAN 2*COM Fanless Mini Computer Celeron J1800 N2810 NetTop 300M WIFI HDMI VGA
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/qGKuX7Ou

NOK 694.88 51%OFF | Mini PC Celeron J1900 Quad Core Windows 10 Du...

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I paid no tax, they marked it as value $25 😂

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I usually tell them to do put a low price on it

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I have the 4gb60g edition

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I should look for a triple display Ali machine on 11.11 for my desktop

strange vapor Nov 3, 2019, 9:36 AM

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Pro tip, don't use the SSD you get from AliExpress!! Have bought two similar products over the last few years, and while the main board is generally good, the SSDs have failed on both!

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 9:36 AM

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@strange vapor no failure after almost a year here, even run squid on it

strange vapor Nov 3, 2019, 9:40 AM

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@clear ferry Started throwing smart errors after a few months and then failed in both cases, maybe just got a bad batch.

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Handily, I monitor for Smart errors, so had spares on hand.

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 9:40 AM

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I could probably check smart status in pfsense ThonkEyes

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Should do that

light trout Nov 3, 2019, 9:41 AM

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A smart error, should be smart enough to fix itself

strange vapor Nov 3, 2019, 9:41 AM

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Using Prometheus with Node Exporter to monitor the smart stuff on my stuff. As soon as smart errors start appearing, I get an alert.

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Monitors a lot more than SmartD 😄

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 9:43 AM

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Looks good here @strange vapor

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https://hastebin.com/ecemafituj.sql

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Mmm unknown attribute 😂

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 10:40 AM

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I'm new to tumbleweed, but I'm doing my first upgrade

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hope it goes well 🤣

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709 packages to upgrade, 4 to downgrade, 27 new, 15 to remove.
Overall download size: 545.6 MiB. Already cached: 0 B. Download only.

hushed basalt Nov 3, 2019, 11:31 AM

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I'm pretty sure I could buy a Dell optiplex to use for pfsense

pure vine Nov 3, 2019, 11:54 AM

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📎 Screenshot_20191103-112054.jpg

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 11:57 AM

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@hushed basalt anything will do

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I ran it on a dual pentium pro back in the day

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I grabbed it from a local hospital, the sticker said the hostname was Viagra

clever mortar Nov 3, 2019, 11:58 AM

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When I last ran it, it wasn't even dual core

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I think I eventually upgraded it to a Pentium, from a 486...

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 11:59 AM

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I ran it on a amd486 for a period

clever mortar Nov 3, 2019, 11:59 AM

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It's very low resource requirement, can't imagine it changed that much over the years

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 11:59 AM

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I actually installed the CPU the wrong way, and it said zzzzz and I flipped it back and it worked

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AMD is a always wonky

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amd

normal ferry Nov 3, 2019, 12:05 PM

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hello people! is anyone here running a conbee II zigbee module for his/her zigbee devices ?

boreal pewter Nov 3, 2019, 12:10 PM

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#zigbee-archived

clever mortar Nov 3, 2019, 12:10 PM

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#zigbee-archived @normal ferry

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In stereo too

normal ferry Nov 3, 2019, 12:10 PM

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😛 okay - reason I asked for it here is because I don't have specific technical questions , it was more of a "do you like it or not" - "does it do your job or not" kinda thing!

clever mortar Nov 3, 2019, 12:11 PM

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That's exactly the kind of question to ask there 😉

boreal pewter Nov 3, 2019, 12:11 PM

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#zigbee-archived but I'm fine with it using it with Deconz

normal ferry Nov 3, 2019, 12:11 PM

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Ok sure thanks both! 🙂

hushed basalt Nov 3, 2019, 12:23 PM

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Aes-ni requirement changes things though

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My current router is like a $15-$30 7 year old asus with tomato flashed on it

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Holds up surprisingly well. But obviously any sort of DPI and advanced traffic management is out of the question

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If the Dell 9020/7020 had either a second NIC or a pcie slot it would have been perfect

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It's quite a jump to the SFF in terms of size

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 1:01 PM

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well, my opensuse tumbleweed upgrade went smooth, but my br0 adapter vanished 🤣

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I have had multiple openvpn site to site vpns with a lot of traffic, and road warrior configs too, never had any need for aes-ni and I'm pretty confident you won't miss it either @hushed basalt 🤷

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woot, I actually thought I had a J1900 in my mini itx, but I actually have a J4105

hasty parcel Nov 3, 2019, 1:11 PM

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woohoo, just bought some zigbee replacement wall switches and some xiaomi buttons

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now it feels real, instead of me just monitoring stuff 🙂

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@light trout I really like my https://pcengines.ch/apu2c4.htm which has three 1G, 4GB ECC RAM and does AES-NI

PC Engines apu2c4 product file

PC Engines apu2c4

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 1:16 PM

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what is the price @hasty parcel ?

hasty parcel Nov 3, 2019, 1:18 PM

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CHF 119.18

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plus 10 for the enclosure

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 1:19 PM

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not bad pricing

hasty parcel Nov 3, 2019, 1:19 PM

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I think so too

light trout Nov 3, 2019, 1:19 PM

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What is that in freedom $ ?

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 1:19 PM

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1100 NOK

scenic radish Nov 3, 2019, 1:33 PM

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I said the real freedom dollars

hasty parcel Nov 3, 2019, 1:43 PM

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you mean euros?

rigid quiver Nov 3, 2019, 1:48 PM

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No i think he means in NZ$ : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_World_Liberty_Index

State of World Liberty Index

The State of World Liberty Index was a ranking of countries according to the degree of economic and personal freedoms that their citizens enjoy. It was a compilation of several similar indices created by other organizations. The index's original author Nick Wilson defined fre...

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 1:48 PM

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You mean AUD @scenic radish ?

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NOK is 8th on the freedom $ scale

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Nice

scenic radish Nov 3, 2019, 1:55 PM

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Perfection

final acorn Nov 3, 2019, 2:29 PM

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What is better option led strip rgbww or rgb cct?

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Only difference that I could notice is that rgbcct merged 3 lights into one diode?

scenic radish Nov 3, 2019, 2:39 PM

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I thought those are the same hardware-wise

clever mortar Nov 3, 2019, 2:43 PM

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RGB-WW is RGB with Warm White
RGB-CCT is RGB with two whites - cold and warm - so you can tune the temperature

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CCT all the way

scenic radish Nov 3, 2019, 3:10 PM

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Oh duh lol

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I was thinking WW was warm and cool white

boreal pewter Nov 3, 2019, 3:11 PM

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You got tinkered

scenic radish Nov 3, 2019, 3:11 PM

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Tinkerered

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I got LMGTFY'd yesterday too 😑

boreal pewter Nov 3, 2019, 3:12 PM

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Wiki:
Tinkerered:
Being slayed by knowledge from Tinkerer

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 3:13 PM

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dootdoot

light trout Nov 3, 2019, 3:22 PM

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dull chasm Nov 3, 2019, 6:05 PM

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@clear ferry cant be twice your age or i would be in the Valley of the Kings

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In your defense if i where twice @clever mortar age i would be in the Mesozoic Era

distant mesa Nov 3, 2019, 7:17 PM

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Anyone know of any 433mhz PIR sensors that send a low battery warning or a battery status?

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 7:19 PM

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Never heard of, that said I've heard of ZigBee users reporting multiple years battery life, I have almost a year on my office motion sensor already

distant mesa Nov 3, 2019, 7:24 PM

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uugh. A voltage sensor and a status message every hour would be nice.

clear ferry Nov 3, 2019, 8:57 PM

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https://i.redd.it/a0oeis3b2iw31.jpg

tame moss Nov 3, 2019, 9:36 PM

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why would you want to know the battery level every hour?

I'm not entirely sure what's your project, but I heavily recommend the $6 Wyze Motion Sensors. They are dirt cheap, work directly with hass, and use RF (so VERY long battery life)

hushed basalt Nov 3, 2019, 9:57 PM

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If the battery level goes below 30% the bus explodes explode

storm summit Nov 4, 2019, 3:42 AM

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just busted my wife using the space heater thanks to hass energy monitor. heh. it was using almost 1.5 kwh. wow

scenic radish Nov 4, 2019, 3:44 AM

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GOTTEM

storm summit Nov 4, 2019, 3:54 AM

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anyone play with heat index for their inside temperatures ?

wet pilot Nov 4, 2019, 3:57 AM

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someone was working with that in #330944238910963714 over the past few days

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the venerable @last plaza gave him a jinja2 macro to calc it based on a temp and humidity input

storm summit Nov 4, 2019, 3:57 AM

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yea? do you know if they got any use out of it? I feel like I tried it once and it was a bust.

wet pilot Nov 4, 2019, 3:58 AM

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seems to do what he wanted

storm summit Nov 4, 2019, 3:58 AM

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        HI = (
            c1
            + c2 * T
            + c3 * R
            + c4 * T * R
            + c5 * T * T
            + c6 * R * R
            + c7 * T * T * R
            + c8 * T * R * R
            + c9 * T * T * R * R
        )

wet pilot Nov 4, 2019, 3:58 AM

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i think i'm confusing things though

storm summit Nov 4, 2019, 3:59 AM

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that what I got off wikipedia. gives me bizzare results.

wet pilot Nov 4, 2019, 3:59 AM

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huh

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i think he was doing a different formula

storm summit Nov 4, 2019, 3:59 AM

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to calculate heat index

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oh...

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        c1 = -43.379
        c2 = 2.04901523
        c3 = 10.14333127
        c4 = -0.22475541
        c5 = -6.83783e-3  # -6.83783*10^-3
        c6 = -5.481717e-2
        c7 = 1.22874e-3
        c8 = 8.5282e-4
        c9 = -1.99e-6

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@wet pilot do you notice temps feel different in winter / summer?

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like 67 in the summer is warmer than 67 in the winter.

wet pilot Nov 4, 2019, 4:01 AM

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humidity can definitely play in to that

storm summit Nov 4, 2019, 4:01 AM

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its freakin annoying.

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Maybe I need a better quality humidity sensor in my house. I have cheapo xiaomi

wet pilot Nov 4, 2019, 4:02 AM

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and its generally lower in the winter

storm summit Nov 4, 2019, 4:02 AM

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...and i have a good sensor in the bathroom but people shower in there so its not accurate. heh

wet pilot Nov 4, 2019, 4:03 AM

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lol

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i have the one in my ecobee thermostat

storm summit Nov 4, 2019, 4:05 AM

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My latest amazing automation just got more amazing.

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the first iteration was to set a dynamic wakeup alarm based on the time i went to bed..

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now it also changes the thermostat settings based on when i'm going to wake up.

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best automation of 2019.

wet pilot Nov 4, 2019, 4:06 AM

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noice

storm summit Nov 4, 2019, 4:07 AM

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Most automations aren't very useful... but this one is a winner.

wet pilot Nov 4, 2019, 4:07 AM

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i'm still partial to my fan automation

storm summit Nov 4, 2019, 4:07 AM

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house fan?

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or is this a fan that vapes 420 and auto deploys it?

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That would be funny. put a massive bong in your hvac return.

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you would have the best party ever

wet pilot Nov 4, 2019, 4:09 AM

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lol ceiling fans that turn on / off based on presence and set their speeds based on temp

storm summit Nov 4, 2019, 4:10 AM

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oh yea. that sounds very handy.

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...if only my house was big enough for ceiling fans 😦

wet pilot Nov 4, 2019, 4:12 AM

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lol doesn't need to be that bit

storm summit Nov 4, 2019, 4:12 AM

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ya. true.

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my place is small. i opted for a house fan.

wet pilot Nov 4, 2019, 4:13 AM

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local room fans are kinda nice though

storm summit Nov 4, 2019, 4:15 AM

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except when you're playing VR

wet pilot Nov 4, 2019, 4:15 AM

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lol true

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i have 9' ceilings on my first floor so its a bit easier

storm summit Nov 4, 2019, 4:16 AM

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oh nice. that's what i'm talkin' about.

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thats what i want in my next place.

hushed basalt Nov 4, 2019, 4:48 AM

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Whats 9' in non freedom units

storm summit Nov 4, 2019, 4:50 AM

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sounds like a joke

wet pilot Nov 4, 2019, 4:50 AM

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9 ft?

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2.74m

storm summit Nov 4, 2019, 4:51 AM

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so you're saying UK and USA aren't free? thats messed up

wet pilot Nov 4, 2019, 4:51 AM

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opposite

storm summit Nov 4, 2019, 4:51 AM

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non-freedom = not free. no?

wet pilot Nov 4, 2019, 4:52 AM

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right SI units aren't freedom units 😛

storm summit Nov 4, 2019, 4:52 AM

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oh. so 2.74m

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got it

hushed basalt Nov 4, 2019, 5:02 AM

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Heheehe

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'Mmmmmmmmmuurriccaa

clear ferry Nov 4, 2019, 7:56 AM

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@wet pilot -2.5c and 80% humidity here now 😂

light trout Nov 4, 2019, 7:56 AM

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But no snow... You told me there was going to be snow....

clear ferry Nov 4, 2019, 7:56 AM

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They lied to us sad

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Big pharma and deep state probably

hushed basalt Nov 4, 2019, 8:57 AM

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Contrails

hushed basalt Nov 4, 2019, 10:02 AM

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Plasmacoils

young sigil Nov 4, 2019, 10:22 AM

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Definitely HAARP.

clear ferry Nov 4, 2019, 10:55 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Gledopto/comments/drehs6/gledopto_november_giveaway_giveaway_winners_of/

GLEDOPTO November Giveaway + Giveaway Winners of October

Posted in r/Gledopto by u/GLEDOPTO • 3 points and 2 comments

clear mirage Nov 4, 2019, 1:50 PM

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Can anyone recommend a good remote desktop client to access a ubuntu desktop?

light trout Nov 4, 2019, 2:04 PM

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Teamviewer

clear mirage Nov 4, 2019, 2:11 PM

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ok. pretty easy to set up?