#the-water-cooler | Home Assistant | Page 383

pure vine Sep 29, 2019, 10:40 AM

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I know Marvell causes issues with nodemcus

orchid rose Sep 29, 2019, 10:42 AM

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hmm, okay. I'll try out the different settings. Seems weird it can connect to the guest network but not the main

hushed basalt Sep 29, 2019, 10:55 AM

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So my remote ssh box works. Yay

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Good thing too cause I wouldn't be able to fix it if it broke

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I really don't want or need a vpn. Everything is either http or ssh

hearty depot Sep 29, 2019, 1:30 PM

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never wastet a thought on in untill now
What does dd stands for really
disk destroyer is apropiate of cause 🤣

earnest cedar Sep 29, 2019, 1:33 PM

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disk duper 😛

clear ferry Sep 29, 2019, 1:50 PM

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Designated driver!

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Dearest daughter!

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Danish donkey ❤

hearty depot Sep 29, 2019, 1:55 PM

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Well I just try to dearest daughterthe VMvisor image over to an rather fast USB stick over.. that thing has 314 MB and isnt finished after 20 minutes... That yould mean another dead USB

clear ferry Sep 29, 2019, 1:57 PM

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dd wil copy even zeros, so if you are copying a 16GB stick it will copy 16GB

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I believe conv=sparse will skip that though

hearty depot Sep 29, 2019, 2:02 PM

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shouldnt it stop after the image is written?
ive been going for
sudo dd if=VMware-VMvisor-Installer-6.7.0.update03-14320388.x86_64.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M
(the bs of the stick could be 512k only though.. fu 😅 )

clear ferry Sep 29, 2019, 2:03 PM

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Oh copying that way 😛

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Just run a proper server with oobm and mount the iso during boot xi2

hearty depot Sep 29, 2019, 2:05 PM

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wife says no to an rack 😦

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but oobm?

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now instead of an rack there is an regular tower standing around - she can live with that

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📎 unknown.png

clear ferry Sep 29, 2019, 2:13 PM

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Oobm = iLO, iDRAC etc

hearty depot Sep 29, 2019, 2:15 PM

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now I have to figure out how to implement this on this regular tower fu xD

clear ferry Sep 29, 2019, 2:16 PM

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You can't

hearty depot Sep 29, 2019, 2:16 PM

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would have been nice

clear ferry Sep 29, 2019, 2:17 PM

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Buy proper servers 😛

hearty depot Sep 29, 2019, 2:17 PM

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convince my wife 😛

clear ferry Sep 29, 2019, 2:18 PM

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Get a proper wife shh

hearty depot Sep 29, 2019, 2:20 PM

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Ehh.. I trend to keep her 🤣
Luckaly I can do most of the time what the hell I want
me :Darling can i make this and that that way
she: no
renders to: I do it anyway
When its a bad idea I just have to revert it

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ah!
The dd command stands for “data duplicator”

clear ferry Sep 29, 2019, 2:21 PM

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My wife says if I bring something home I have to throw something out 😛

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But I just bring it in at night

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And hide it in the rack 😛

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But she also uses my servers for school 😂

hearty depot Sep 29, 2019, 2:23 PM

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I really want a rack :P
but there is really no space for it - I have to be so honest

clear ferry Sep 29, 2019, 2:35 PM

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Buy a house 😛

earnest cedar Sep 29, 2019, 2:44 PM

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@clear ferry There are remote control pci cards

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Iirc aten made one

clear ferry Sep 29, 2019, 2:44 PM

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Really, I haven't seen anything like that since Riloe, which was very limited

earnest cedar Sep 29, 2019, 2:47 PM

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ah its discontinued 😦

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https://www.aten.com/global/en/products/kvm/kvm-over-ip-switches/ip8000/

Remote Management PCI Card - IP8000, ATEN KVM over IP Switches

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Can still buy them though

clear ferry Sep 29, 2019, 2:48 PM

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Never seen at all, but I've only worked with enterprise and mission critical for the last 12 years 😛

earnest cedar Sep 29, 2019, 2:48 PM

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:p

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You could build the restart part with a micro and some transistors

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The actual control part is gonna be hard though

clear ferry Sep 29, 2019, 2:53 PM

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Showing the boot, recording the boot, mounting during boot and firmware uploads is what makes oobm worth it 😛

pure vine Sep 29, 2019, 3:19 PM

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Slowly working on something to automatically turn the TV off

📎 Screenshot_20190929-161434.jpg

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It's quite funny when ffmpeg polls the camera as it just blinks every 10 seconds

orchid rose Sep 29, 2019, 3:23 PM

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that's an interesting project. How well does it work in dark I wonder

pure vine Sep 29, 2019, 3:23 PM

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As I'm using a c920 temporarily

📎 IMG_20190929_162250.jpg

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I'm thinking about making another automation to disable the automation if it's too dark

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In theory the TV will provide enough light

orchid rose Sep 29, 2019, 3:25 PM

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there are dark scenes at times though which could make it lose the faces?

pure vine Sep 29, 2019, 3:25 PM

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Yeah, but not for more than 10 minutes

orchid rose Sep 29, 2019, 3:26 PM

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maybe not. It's probably pretty easy to figure out once working anyway

pure vine Sep 29, 2019, 3:26 PM

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I was going to work on my movie automations again and make that disable it too

earnest cedar Sep 29, 2019, 3:26 PM

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you could add some ir blasters

pure vine Sep 29, 2019, 3:27 PM

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I do have a modified Xbox 360 camera if I need to

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But that's super low res

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And slightly broken

orchid rose Sep 29, 2019, 3:27 PM

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you might be able to remove the ir filter on some cameras but the quality will be a lot worse

pure vine Sep 29, 2019, 3:28 PM

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Might be possible to get ffmpeg to combine the c920 and ir camera images

orchid rose Sep 29, 2019, 3:29 PM

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Is there a reason you're tracking the number of people as well?

pure vine Sep 29, 2019, 3:30 PM

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Not really

orchid rose Sep 29, 2019, 3:30 PM

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alright, there are instances where that's probably useful but maybe not in this setting

pure vine Sep 29, 2019, 3:31 PM

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Need to make a gdpr sign and work out how I can disable the camera as the Living room is also the spare room

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I might change TV watchers to a template binary sensor

hearty depot Sep 29, 2019, 6:23 PM

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got anoyed with the known hosts.
throw this in bashrc to delete an line fast and easy

knownhosterror () {
sed -i " $1 d " ~/.ssh/known_hosts
}

low harness Sep 29, 2019, 6:27 PM

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ssh-keygen -R hostname

hearty depot Sep 29, 2019, 6:29 PM

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manpage ftw
-R hostname | [hostname]:port Removes all keys belonging to the specified hostname (with optional port number) from a known_hosts file. This option is useful to delete hashed hosts (see the -H option above).

icy chasm Sep 29, 2019, 7:36 PM

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Funny how there's a built-in function for common issues

wet pilot Sep 29, 2019, 7:37 PM

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lol

scenic oyster Sep 29, 2019, 8:22 PM

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Is there a child tracker that can be implemented in HA?`

clear ferry Sep 29, 2019, 8:40 PM

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Child tracker ThonkEyes

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That question is for #330944238910963714 though

storm summit Sep 29, 2019, 9:08 PM

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a child tracker could be naything

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thats very abstract..gps, bluetooth,.

orchid rose Sep 29, 2019, 9:24 PM

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has google disabled the local api for google home?

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I haven't used it for a while but was going to now and it doesn't seem to work the same way anymore 😦

wet pilot Sep 29, 2019, 9:26 PM

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yeah, they changed something

orchid rose Sep 29, 2019, 9:27 PM

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well that sucks...

wet pilot Sep 29, 2019, 9:29 PM

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that was always pretty hacky. completely un-documented

orchid rose Sep 29, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Do you know if there's any way of pulling the information about alarms from GH anymore?

wet pilot Sep 29, 2019, 9:40 PM

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that died with that api

rapid musk Sep 30, 2019, 12:00 AM

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Do any of you guys play with esxi?

wet pilot Sep 30, 2019, 12:03 AM

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i spun it up but my server is way too damn loud

midnight adder Sep 30, 2019, 12:20 AM

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I use Hyper-V Server instead

wet pilot Sep 30, 2019, 12:21 AM

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🤢

midnight adder Sep 30, 2019, 12:21 AM

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What its free xD

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I really do wish I went with some sort of vmare software for it though

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But this gets the job done

wet pilot Sep 30, 2019, 12:22 AM

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esxi is free

midnight adder Sep 30, 2019, 12:22 AM

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Well maybe one day I'll switch but not anytime soon. Maybe server 2.0

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Just be glad the vm's hosted are 90% ubuntu based

hushed basalt Sep 30, 2019, 4:17 AM

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Do you need a vm though

wet pilot Sep 30, 2019, 4:35 AM

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homelab

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my company's primary product isn't docker safe 😦

storm summit Sep 30, 2019, 4:39 AM

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that isn't necessarily a bad thing.

wet pilot Sep 30, 2019, 4:40 AM

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just means it needs a vm

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since its installed by iso

storm summit Sep 30, 2019, 4:41 AM

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well, some companies force docker because it's what all the new kids are doing. Not always the correct thing.

wet pilot Sep 30, 2019, 4:41 AM

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the secondary product that i work on requires docker because it is intended to be a distributed system

storm summit Sep 30, 2019, 4:41 AM

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there ya go. best of both worlds 🙂

wet pilot Sep 30, 2019, 4:42 AM

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yep, we use docker/micro services for the right reasons

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primary product is trying to move in that direction but it'll take them for freaking ever because they have to break up a monolith

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they're still running py2

storm summit Sep 30, 2019, 4:45 AM

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hah. great idea: open source it. hah

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leave a note in the anonymous suggestions box. lol

wet pilot Sep 30, 2019, 4:46 AM

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lol that'll never happen

hushed basalt Sep 30, 2019, 4:46 AM

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Fair enough. For work

wet pilot Sep 30, 2019, 4:46 AM

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my team has open-sourced a bunch of tools we created though

hushed basalt Sep 30, 2019, 4:47 AM

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But keep in mind I think admins roles for traditional vm server stuff will get smaller and smaller

wet pilot Sep 30, 2019, 4:47 AM

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it'll take a while but you're probably right

hushed basalt Sep 30, 2019, 5:08 AM

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There's going to be a lot of work for a long time

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But as more as more corporates remove/downsize all their on prem/colo stuff for pure cloud solutions,

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There will be more people who didn't upskill after a diminishing number of jobs

wet pilot Sep 30, 2019, 5:09 AM

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Thing as a Service is so in right now

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that's happening everywhere too

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i wouldn't want to be a powertrain assembler right now

hushed basalt Sep 30, 2019, 5:10 AM

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Yeah best thing to do is focus on skills that are rare and valuable

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I mean who needs a team of storage engineers managing ceph clusters when you can just use s3,

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Etc etc

wet pilot Sep 30, 2019, 5:11 AM

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yup

hushed basalt Sep 30, 2019, 5:12 AM

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If I was CTO for an enterprise I'd be pushing all undifferentiated heavy lifting to managed services

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Everything is about outcomes, not how those outcomes are acheived

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The closer your skill is to really providing those customer outcomes, the safer and more valuable you are

clear ferry Sep 30, 2019, 7:57 AM

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Someone mentioned hyper-v

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I can smell it in the room

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🤢

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Cleanup isle five

ocean mirage Sep 30, 2019, 8:00 AM

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Hyper-V

clear ferry Sep 30, 2019, 8:07 AM

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MonkaSadMusic

strange vapor Sep 30, 2019, 8:48 AM

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Hyper-V!

ocean mirage Sep 30, 2019, 8:49 AM

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@clear ferry ndonegan has something you might want to see

clear ferry Sep 30, 2019, 9:12 AM

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VaultBoyDOWN

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down

hearty depot Sep 30, 2019, 10:47 AM

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ok...its a propper cpu... but load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ? there is something not right

clear ferry Sep 30, 2019, 10:57 AM

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But.. that is perfect if you have low load 😛

hearty depot Sep 30, 2019, 10:59 AM

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jeaaa... but 0.00.... While installing docker/hassio/pulling images....
INFINITE COMPUTE POWER!!111

clear ferry Sep 30, 2019, 11:00 AM

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My phone has enough power to install docker without lagging, if your computer doesn't there is something wrong 😛

boreal pewter Sep 30, 2019, 11:05 AM

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Huh? This docker-virus binary pulls 100% cpu and bandwidth always

clear ferry Sep 30, 2019, 11:07 AM

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Every time I run cat /var/log/dmesg my load goes to 18.92!

boreal pewter Sep 30, 2019, 11:08 AM

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I don't know why this rm -rf / doesn't work and everyone wants me to do it

clear ferry Sep 30, 2019, 11:22 AM

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Just do ALT+F4 in your mIRC window!

boreal pewter Sep 30, 2019, 11:51 AM

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Oh thank you! Didnt know it was so useful

clear ferry Sep 30, 2019, 11:54 AM

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WeSmart

hushed basalt Sep 30, 2019, 12:14 PM

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Don't forget to sudo first @boreal pewter

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That's why it's not working

boreal pewter Sep 30, 2019, 12:20 PM

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Oh forgot

unkempt umbra Sep 30, 2019, 12:47 PM

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@scenic radish you around?

scenic radish Sep 30, 2019, 1:03 PM

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Yeah, been busy... friend's bachelor party this weekend. What's up?

unkempt umbra Sep 30, 2019, 1:17 PM

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it works, after some slight modifications.

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105 days to filter change

scenic radish Sep 30, 2019, 1:18 PM

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ah yeah i should upload my update that changes the estimated filter change days to "> 30" when it's over 30

unkempt umbra Sep 30, 2019, 1:19 PM

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variable package required some changes.

scenic radish Sep 30, 2019, 1:19 PM

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what'd you need to change? pretty sure i uploaded my working config

unkempt umbra Sep 30, 2019, 1:20 PM

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var: instead of variable:

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some similar smal changes

scenic radish Sep 30, 2019, 1:20 PM

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oh there's two variable custom components

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maybe i referenced the one i didn't use

unkempt umbra Sep 30, 2019, 1:21 PM

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brb

scenic radish Sep 30, 2019, 1:23 PM

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this is the one i used: https://github.com/rogro82/hass-variables

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if it's working for you with your changes, then it's all good. just want to make sure i don't need to change anything in my repo. it's possible i missed something when i uploaded it

unkempt umbra Sep 30, 2019, 1:26 PM

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i used the one from HACS

scenic radish Sep 30, 2019, 1:26 PM

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ah gotcha

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what else did you have to change?

unkempt umbra Sep 30, 2019, 1:30 PM

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thaat was it, mostly.

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trying to send a pic of the ui.

scenic radish Sep 30, 2019, 1:32 PM

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oh ok

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glad it's working for you.

unkempt umbra Sep 30, 2019, 1:36 PM

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was afun little integration.

scenic radish Sep 30, 2019, 1:38 PM

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yeah those stats are prominently displayed on the main page of my frontend

unkempt umbra Sep 30, 2019, 1:53 PM

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on my page 3 (stats page)

scenic oyster Sep 30, 2019, 5:20 PM

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Is there a small GPS tracker that works with HA? 🙂 So u can put on cars etc ;P

clever mortar Sep 30, 2019, 5:20 PM

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Off topic 😉

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Please read the channel topic

scenic oyster Sep 30, 2019, 5:21 PM

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sorry

hearty depot Sep 30, 2019, 5:30 PM

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aahh - I get angry with ESXi already - why the hell I cant add an USB3 controller

strange vapor Sep 30, 2019, 5:53 PM

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@hearty depot But @clear ferry told me ESXi is perfect in every way.....

hearty depot Sep 30, 2019, 5:54 PM

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pfff... I ll use Hyper-V soon

midnight adder Sep 30, 2019, 6:08 PM

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anyone here own a xiaomi mi tv box s

boreal pewter Sep 30, 2019, 8:49 PM

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No.. I doubt it can play proper 4k at that price but I never really looked it up since I still get served by a Shield

median minnow Oct 1, 2019, 12:18 AM

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Sorry guys, most random post, but is anyone here a riseup.net user who can get me an invite code please?

brisk glen Oct 1, 2019, 1:30 AM

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setting up a synology NAS for a client... I want one ;.;

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but $600

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oh how being married

amber bramble Oct 1, 2019, 1:38 AM

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i loved my synology device

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but it was a 2012 2-bay basic model that i outgrew so I migrated over to an unraid machine

ocean mirage Oct 1, 2019, 2:03 AM

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white box build kills synology from what I can tell

brisk glen Oct 1, 2019, 2:27 AM

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DS718+ for the client here

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they did not want anything bigger

hushed basalt Oct 1, 2019, 3:38 AM

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Synology and such are good as just simple storage devices

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When you try to make them do more they really fall over

wet pilot Oct 1, 2019, 3:38 AM

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that's what i've heard

hushed basalt Oct 1, 2019, 3:39 AM

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They have a lot of advantages, and disadvantaged

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A lot simpler than a white box to get up and running

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I would definitely never 'build' a pc for work

wet pilot Oct 1, 2019, 3:44 AM

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support contracts are key

ocean mirage Oct 1, 2019, 3:48 AM

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Definitely telco

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A 13 year old on another server I am on was apparently being paid to make 80 computers for some company

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Wasn’t even getting $2k for it

wet pilot Oct 1, 2019, 3:51 AM

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does that include parts? if so, kid got fleeced 😄

ocean mirage Oct 1, 2019, 3:52 AM

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That’s labor costs lol

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It’s peanuts

brisk glen Oct 1, 2019, 4:00 AM

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make 80 pcs?

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fuck that

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synology is simple

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users need it simple

wet pilot Oct 1, 2019, 4:01 AM

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consumer != enterprise needs

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synology is "prosumer"

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small biz can get away with it but are asking for trouble

brisk glen Oct 1, 2019, 4:01 AM

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they didnt want to spend the big $

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its a small business

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a very small one

wet pilot Oct 1, 2019, 4:02 AM

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the bill ends up coming due eventually 😉

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better hope that main board doesn't fry

brisk glen Oct 1, 2019, 4:02 AM

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3 years of warrenty

wet pilot Oct 1, 2019, 4:02 AM

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LinusTechTips found that out the hard way

brisk glen Oct 1, 2019, 4:02 AM

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oh?

wet pilot Oct 1, 2019, 4:02 AM

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i think GamersNexus did too

brisk glen Oct 1, 2019, 4:06 AM

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well 3 years on the nas, 5 years on the drives

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by then they have expanded or got bought out / failed

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I wanted to go enterprise class but they dont even have a rack

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:S

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 4:32 AM

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@brisk glen $600 gotta up those numbers😛

brisk glen Oct 1, 2019, 4:33 AM

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@clear ferry I got them good on the email migration...

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 4:33 AM

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I'm probably blind by the fact that s single SSD when I install systems cost $80,000 😂

brisk glen Oct 1, 2019, 4:34 AM

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yah.... thats like half an entire a SMALL Business profits

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lol

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 4:34 AM

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Does it make it better that I install the systems with 200 of those minimum then? 😛

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On top of the base system price...

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spazeye

brisk glen Oct 1, 2019, 4:35 AM

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lol

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you should see my email migrating pricing per user vs the amount of work I really have to do

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but to them the transition is butter smooth

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 4:46 AM

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Yeah, migrating from one SAN to another is pretty simple thankfully, but it will take me a few days usually, but my hourly rate of $200 per hour in business hours or $400 ooh is negligible compared to hardware prices 😛

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I remember 12 years ago, a quad memory upgrade (2GBx4) for a hpux systems would rack you up $30000 just in hardware

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 5:23 AM

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📎 Screenshot_20191001_072254.jpg

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Winter is coming

ocean mirage Oct 1, 2019, 5:23 AM

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Your ute is getting cold

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 5:25 AM

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Yes, you should see my inne

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Have you started on the next email yet? 😛 @ocean mirage

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 6:02 AM

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Btw, I love this guy

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https://instagram.com/ichika_mo?igshid=1an7wmehpabh2

Login • Instagram

Welcome back to Instagram. Sign in to check out what your friends, family & interests have been capturing & sharing around the world.

hushed basalt Oct 1, 2019, 6:27 AM

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Linus isn't exactly efficient when it comes to his own business hardware

wet pilot Oct 1, 2019, 6:27 AM

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he's definitely an example of what not to do at times

hushed basalt Oct 1, 2019, 6:27 AM

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Half the stuff he gets for free. But all of it is very "cheap" if you ignore all the time his staff have spent on research, installation, repairs, maintenance and fault finding

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I know it's part of the show

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But definitely don't do as Linus does lol

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Half the problem is his camera guy convinced them they need 8K Red cameras

wet pilot Oct 1, 2019, 6:30 AM

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the cost of the cameras and accessories and then all the costs of dealing with the sheer amount of data they produce is non trivial

hushed basalt Oct 1, 2019, 6:37 AM

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Yeah I work with professional camera for a living full time

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They made a decision with a hugggee capex and opex expenditure for no good reason

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They could have got a very profesional camera for 1/4 of the capital costs and 1/8th of the storage costs

wet pilot Oct 1, 2019, 6:39 AM

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not sure what they really gain by shooting in 8k when you can't actually consume that anywhere

ocean mirage Oct 1, 2019, 6:41 AM

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I have not @clear ferry , been a bit ill

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 6:41 AM

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Excuses!

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Great opportunity to listen while in bed with manflu!

ocean mirage Oct 1, 2019, 6:42 AM

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I've been a functioning ill person, just low functioning

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leave me alone, dont make me bring out the big guns

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 6:42 AM

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@wet pilot remasters in 10 years

wet pilot Oct 1, 2019, 6:44 AM

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heh storage consumption++++++++++

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 6:45 AM

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Like my customers who never delete data

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Just buy additional storage 😛

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I don't complain though 🤷

wet pilot Oct 1, 2019, 6:45 AM

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😛

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need additional pylons

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 6:46 AM

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I'm not that kind of orc!

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Also, today's album

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https://open.spotify.com/album/6hAZj8L6V6XjochoLXf6WM?si=N7aXxpCcRb2VFt1b3NgXaQ

Spotify

Misplaced Childhood

Misplaced Childhood, an album by Marillion on Spotify

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 7:36 AM

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Special Norwegian for you @ocean mirage @tough igloo https://open.spotify.com/track/7CGjSt0h27CfFUFsj2L7am?si=Mtj2oGkWR7K8YTRGKiW3OA

Spotify

Hjernen Er Alene

Hjernen Er Alene, a song by Seigmen on Spotify

ocean mirage Oct 1, 2019, 7:41 AM

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"This track is not available in your country"

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lol

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 7:43 AM

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weary

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Does this work ?

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https://youtu.be/WStf6eCYo8M

YouTube

heeydi

Seigmen - Hjernen er alene

Band:Seigmen Song:Hjernen er alene Album:Monument Genre:Alternative

▶ Play video

ocean mirage Oct 1, 2019, 7:49 AM

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I can’t understand a word he’s saying, someone tell this man to enunciate

quiet cobalt Oct 1, 2019, 9:03 AM

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HA 1.0 should be coming out today or tomorrow 🙂

quartz ether Oct 1, 2019, 9:11 AM

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😮

light trout Oct 1, 2019, 9:23 AM

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#FakeNews, beta for 0.100 Are cut tomorrow

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 9:29 AM

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Mmmm fakenews

ocean mirage Oct 1, 2019, 9:29 AM

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deepfakenews

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 9:30 AM

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doge

hushed basalt Oct 1, 2019, 10:36 AM

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@wet pilot ARRI only just released a real 4K camera this year

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And they're the gold standard for high end cameras

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The RED stuff is just stat pumping. Vanity metrics

pure vine Oct 1, 2019, 10:45 AM

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https://twitter.com/EUCourtPress/status/1178982503266312192 EU Courts determin that a pre ticked check box does not count as consent under the EUs cookie legisiation

EU Court of Justice (@EUCourtPress)

#ECJ : Storing cookies requires internet users’ active consent, a pre-ticked checkbox is therefore insufficient https://t.co/BXuldkaxWx

scenic oyster Oct 1, 2019, 12:52 PM

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What standard should I look for when I am buying smarthome electronics in EU? Abit sceptical to some stuff that can be flashed by tasmota etc

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 12:56 PM

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Wouldn't trust any standard markings at all, but I'm comfortable with buying stuff and not use it for high load, for that I buy named brand

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Like tplink for my water heater

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And shelly1 for my in wall stuff

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The rest I buy random Chinese mostly

scenic oyster Oct 1, 2019, 12:59 PM

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https://www.blitzwolf.com/3840W-EU-WIFI-Smart-Socket-p-244.html

BW-SHP2 Wifi Smart Socket EU

BW-SHP2 Wifi Smart Socket can integrate with Amazon Echo, Google Home and IFTTT.

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wonder if this can do my dryer or washing machine

boreal pewter Oct 1, 2019, 1:01 PM

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My new vacuum cleaner gets shipped soon

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They said they even work today on chinese national holiday

final acorn Oct 1, 2019, 1:11 PM

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what you say to folks when they said: "Oh, smart home..you are very lazy then.."

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I just get red in the face nad dont talk with that person anymore..

boreal pewter Oct 1, 2019, 1:13 PM

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It's difficult tho. I understand everyone not wanting to do that. The reason to get lazy then is just a bit stupid then tho

scenic radish Oct 1, 2019, 1:21 PM

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can't say i've ever had anyone say that to me

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but those people are stupid

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and we don't like them

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 1:23 PM

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What is this other people ?

scenic radish Oct 1, 2019, 1:26 PM

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wut

boreal pewter Oct 1, 2019, 1:27 PM

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It's funny since I discussed several times with someone. In summer, every time he told that he has been cutting the grass in the garden, I asked why he was not getting a robot for that and he always said like "no I just rather do it myself". He is a dev and I couldn't find another computer other than the MacBook Pro we get from work, no consoles, no streaming, just common fucking not even 1080p public TV

scenic radish Oct 1, 2019, 1:28 PM

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i don't think i understand what you're saying

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but some people enjoy cutting the grass

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i actually enjoyed my work as a landscaper

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 1:32 PM

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What is this grass thing?

scenic radish Oct 1, 2019, 1:37 PM

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Is this grass?

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 1:38 PM

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🦋

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https://open.spotify.com/track/04EtBLFIxbcVt9NdYgcrpF?si=wBS2ee05SnqmoLmcEZkCTQ

Spotify

Redneck

Redneck, a song by Lamb of God on Spotify

scenic radish Oct 1, 2019, 1:41 PM

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https://play.google.com/music/m/Terjua6lxwvzmzubkthruilizgm?t=Stockholm_Syndrome_-_Muse

Stockholm Syndrome - Muse

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 1:47 PM

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Zzzz stuck in queue smh

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https://shop.spreadshirt.com/technerdshirts/if+dns+had+a+face+i+would+punch+it-A5d3b2c481361512b75844f89?productType=48&sellable=8y1M8JqZEAfo1mpgLwOm-48-9&appearance=231

Tech Nerd Shirts

Tech Nerd Shirts | If DNS Had a Face I Would Punch It - Kids T-Shirt

Tech Nerd Shirts | Nerdy shirts for sysadmins IT people and garden variety geeks.

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I need this

scenic radish Oct 1, 2019, 2:06 PM

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Deez Nuts Service

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 2:08 PM

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Damn Numbers Searchengine

light trout Oct 1, 2019, 2:09 PM

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Data Not Secure

scenic radish Oct 1, 2019, 2:09 PM

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https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/09/30/sandisk-400gb-extreme-amazon-deal/ 😱

Android Police

Grab a SanDisk 400GB A2 microSD card for its lowest price yet of $85

We know how commoditized the microSD card market is at the moment. Frankly speaking, if you need to just store things forever, a drawer full of cards

boreal pewter Oct 1, 2019, 2:10 PM

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Mh we had 200GB for 25€ recently

scenic radish Oct 1, 2019, 2:10 PM

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but this is almost twice as much storage

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for more than twice the price

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11/10 deal

boreal pewter Oct 1, 2019, 2:11 PM

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400GB for 55€ 🙂

scenic radish Oct 1, 2019, 2:11 PM

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well i don't know what that giant cents sign is

boreal pewter Oct 1, 2019, 2:11 PM

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1TB for 364,90€ 😄 😄 😄

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 2:11 PM

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Zzzz give me good deals for 10TB drives instead

boreal pewter Oct 1, 2019, 2:11 PM

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Oh that is human currency

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Like the human metric system

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And km/h

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That 2000's stuff the retards oversea couldn't find

scenic radish Oct 1, 2019, 2:12 PM

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ketchup and mustard per hotdog?

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 2:12 PM

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@scenic radish NOT TRANSLATABLE TO FREEDOM BUCKS?

boreal pewter Oct 1, 2019, 2:12 PM

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Trump Bucks you mean?

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 2:12 PM

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😂

boreal pewter Oct 1, 2019, 2:13 PM

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@clear ferry I have here a WD My Book 2x 10TB in a deal

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Doesn't look valuable when only taking disks tho

scenic radish Oct 1, 2019, 2:14 PM

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but think of how much info your history database could store on a 400gb sd card

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and how not slow that would make home assistant

boreal pewter Oct 1, 2019, 2:14 PM

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None because no one is as dump as hosting a DB on fucking MicroSD

scenic radish Oct 1, 2019, 2:14 PM

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it was a joke anon

boreal pewter Oct 1, 2019, 2:15 PM

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And I answered kindly!

scenic radish Oct 1, 2019, 2:15 PM

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lmao

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brb gonna host my db on a 400gb sd

boreal pewter Oct 1, 2019, 2:15 PM

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I have not signed a contract to not answer rhetoric questions

scenic radish Oct 1, 2019, 2:15 PM

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and there's nothing you can do about it

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why's your name anon anyway

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who are you hiding from

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are you in danger

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blink twice if you're in danger

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dammit anon

boreal pewter Oct 1, 2019, 2:16 PM

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I once saw someone called like that on a gameserver many years ago and liked the name so I just took it

scenic radish Oct 1, 2019, 2:16 PM

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let me help you

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also i'd like to think the storage controller on a pi would overheat upon reboot if it had a 400gb fucking db lol

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gonna need that lickwid kooling

boreal pewter Oct 1, 2019, 2:18 PM

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Just drop the pi in a small oil box lol

scenic radish Oct 1, 2019, 2:20 PM

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like the time intel used vegetable oil to cool their shit

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fucking

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hilarious

boreal pewter Oct 1, 2019, 2:20 PM

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https://www.pugetsystems.com/submerged.php

Puget Systems

Mineral Oil Cooled PC

Build your own computer, mini pc, and server at Puget Custom Computers. We build for your workflow.

scenic radish Oct 1, 2019, 2:21 PM

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pretty clever

boreal pewter Oct 1, 2019, 2:21 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAvLzCfRiyM

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This is something foreign from the most known overclocker here

scenic radish Oct 1, 2019, 2:22 PM

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it's just an oil filled radiator (the first one)

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that happens to do millions of calculations as a byproduct

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did we just solve climate change

boreal pewter Oct 1, 2019, 2:23 PM

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This guy der8auer uses Novec 7100 3M

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 2:28 PM

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Pff Apollo 8000 cooled with 60c inlet water or bust

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Or the newer one is SGI 8600 I guess ThonkEyes

hearty depot Oct 1, 2019, 2:45 PM

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what happend with rc.home-assistant.io ?
Wanted a sneakpeak but nothing 😛

scenic radish Oct 1, 2019, 2:48 PM

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so i've got $50 in amazon credit

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what smart home goodies should i buy

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thinking something boring like more water leak sensors

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i have a zigbee/zwave radio plugged in my pi so my possibilities are endless

boreal pewter Oct 1, 2019, 2:54 PM

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Get a Nvidia Shield, Nintendo Switch, OLED TV, save up for the PS5 or new Xbox, Klipsch home cinema system

scenic radish Oct 1, 2019, 2:57 PM

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good suggestions, but i'm set on TVs and actually just bought an xbox one x

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i was thinking smaller

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also the xbox one x is nice

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but i'm annoyed with sony and microsoft because they keep targeting 4k resolution at not 60fps when they should target 1080p at 60 fucking frames per second

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i don't want 4k resolution and, depending on how large your tv is and how far you sit away from it, you might not notice a difference between 1080p and 2160p

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but you will notice a difference between 60fps and 30fps

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 3:54 PM

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Installed a 60fps plugin for MPC, you really notice a lot in the smoothness of the video

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Is gonna get cooold

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📎 Screenshot_20191001_180427.jpg

last plaza Oct 1, 2019, 4:38 PM

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the coldest I've experienced is -25 F

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~f2c -25

velvet horizonBOT Oct 1, 2019, 4:38 PM

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:thermometer:

Fahrenheit To Celsius

-25 degrees fahrenheit = -31.67 degrees celsius!

wet pilot Oct 1, 2019, 4:39 PM

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that's pretty brutal

last plaza Oct 1, 2019, 4:39 PM

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yup - we've had arctic chill - its been happening for the past 2 years now

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when it is that cold, you won't feel a thing even if you lost a finger

wet pilot Oct 1, 2019, 4:42 PM

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https://data.whicdn.com/images/161967658/original.jpg

orchid rose Oct 1, 2019, 4:51 PM

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the feeling when you step out at -30 celsius and your lungs just stop you midbreath like "you've got to be kidding me"

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it does get better after a few minutes though as long as there's no wind

last plaza Oct 1, 2019, 4:53 PM

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yup - wind chill is the killer!

scenic radish Oct 1, 2019, 4:54 PM

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the wind chill made it feel like -50 F (-45.5 C) at one point by me earlier this year

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i said fuck that and stayed home from work lol

last plaza Oct 1, 2019, 4:55 PM

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good choice!

scenic radish Oct 1, 2019, 4:56 PM

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"tediore, where you at?"
"at home, not getting frostbite in my lungs"

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which is, apparently, a real thing

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that's a fear i didn't know i had

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 5:55 PM

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@last plaza we only get -35 here

last plaza Oct 1, 2019, 5:56 PM

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F or C?

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that makes a big difference!

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 5:56 PM

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C

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~c2f -35

velvet horizonBOT Oct 1, 2019, 5:56 PM

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:thermometer:

Celsius To Fahrenheit

-35 degrees celsius = -31 degrees fahrenheit!

last plaza Oct 1, 2019, 5:56 PM

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😮

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anything below -20F it all feels the same

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 5:57 PM

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Record in the country is -51.4

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~c2f -51

velvet horizonBOT Oct 1, 2019, 5:57 PM

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:thermometer:

Celsius To Fahrenheit

-51 degrees celsius = -59.8 degrees fahrenheit!

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 5:58 PM

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Not totally true @last plaza -35c inland doesn't bother me, -15c by the coast kills me

last plaza Oct 1, 2019, 6:00 PM

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I don't spend much time outdoors when needle goes below zero, I can't tell 😛

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 6:01 PM

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We get proper snow though https://images.app.goo.gl/nxz8vU9eP9yGE7uF6

clever mortar Oct 1, 2019, 6:19 PM

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🤣

last plaza Oct 1, 2019, 6:39 PM

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We do too. But not that extreme. Max is 4ft snow!

light trout Oct 1, 2019, 6:42 PM

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That was 20y ago, it's not even near that now

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 6:43 PM

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Gotta up those numbers, those are rookie numbers @last plaza

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@light trout we still get snow like that, over to Kvam and other areas for sure, I saw snow like that two, three years ago last

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Perks of driving all over the country😛

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I couldn't even see the cabins, just saw a guy shoveling around a chimney 😂 😂

light trout Oct 1, 2019, 6:44 PM

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perks? 🤔
You get to "swim" in deep snow, I sit warm @ home...

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 6:44 PM

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I love driving in snow

light trout Oct 1, 2019, 6:44 PM

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wierdo

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 6:44 PM

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Sideways GWspenderThinkChubby

last plaza Oct 1, 2019, 6:46 PM

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😂

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I don’t mind the snow as long as we get some good sunshine. Where I live, we don’t see sun for about 7 months a year. That sucks! I can bear cold and snow.

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 6:47 PM

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I'll snap you some pictures next time I see snow like that 😛

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My hometown has perpetual darkness for 2-3 months and perpetual sunlight for 2-3 months

last plaza Oct 1, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Winter is coming!

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 6:57 PM

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I sure hope so

hearty depot Oct 1, 2019, 7:50 PM

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Projekt tomorrow. Let Firefox run through ssh

clear ferry Oct 1, 2019, 8:54 PM

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I did that 10 years ago I remember

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Though with iceweasel

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Was a shite experience

austere finch Oct 1, 2019, 10:14 PM

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@peak geyser

wintry crow Oct 1, 2019, 11:05 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWoCH6FRdpI Not at all over the top... But worth picking ideas from

YouTube

PLATINUM KIT

DIY Subwoofer Build With Music Reactive LED Light

DIY Subwoofer Build With Music Reactive LED Light Yiroshi is a reliable power amplifier and is great for low bass. The results of a powerful bass and a very ...

▶ Play video

leaden summit Oct 2, 2019, 3:30 AM

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yo guys- what all "outputs" do you have from home assistant? Like we have inputs like zwave buttons and outs like lights, speakers, casting to tvs, etc... anything cool I'm not thinking about? Stuff like a vacuum control and stuff?

young sigil Oct 2, 2019, 3:40 AM

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Smart switches.

hearty depot Oct 2, 2019, 4:35 AM

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Bann in 3,2,1?

scenic radish Oct 2, 2019, 4:36 AM

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@midnight wadi Hi! Fuck off

hearty depot Oct 2, 2019, 4:36 AM

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@peak cloud

scenic radish Oct 2, 2019, 4:39 AM

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I'm actually surprised at how little spam there seems to be here

hearty depot Oct 2, 2019, 4:39 AM

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Jea true when you think about it

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Oh LFS 9.0 is out.

scenic radish Oct 2, 2019, 4:49 AM

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What's that

hearty depot Oct 2, 2019, 4:51 AM

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Linux from scratch

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Aka Bild your whole system from scratch ;p

scenic radish Oct 2, 2019, 4:55 AM

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Oh interesting

hearty depot Oct 2, 2019, 4:56 AM

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Feels like I did it the last time ages ago - maybe soon again

hushed basalt Oct 2, 2019, 5:31 AM

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Spam on meetup.com is insane

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I've had to disable email notifications for meetup because of it

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Which is a shame because it used to be all useful stuff. Like "Hey this meetup has moved to 6pm, or new meetup announced in this group you're in"

clear ferry Oct 2, 2019, 5:45 AM

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What, you guys mean I'm not a hottie?

vast dove Oct 2, 2019, 5:53 AM

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🍆

clear ferry Oct 2, 2019, 5:53 AM

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showbob

boreal pewter Oct 2, 2019, 6:48 AM

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Kernel 5.4 is rather more interesting

peak cloud Oct 2, 2019, 6:50 AM

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@hearty depot ty, banned.

clear ferry Oct 2, 2019, 6:50 AM

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https://open.spotify.com/album/4INFVEhhhnLiqNR4MVPaX8?si=41Daq5AbQgmDpxMia7vjAg

Spotify

Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence

Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, an album by Dream Theater on Spotify

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@boreal pewter oh shit I notice I've been out of the linux game for long, I thought we were still on kernel 4 🤣

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I still have nightmares about recompling kernel 2.x

boreal pewter Oct 2, 2019, 6:52 AM

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Lul 5.4 bring lockdown

clear ferry Oct 2, 2019, 6:53 AM

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I actually thought linux supported exFAT already

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but come to think of it I've only used it in UEFI for Itanium

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for atleast 10 years

boreal pewter Oct 2, 2019, 6:58 AM

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:D

clear ferry Oct 2, 2019, 7:06 AM

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how do you use rclone anon ? via a docker container or directly in a OS ? I saw there were docker containers and though about using that to sync my freenas picture folders and google drive

boreal pewter Oct 2, 2019, 7:08 AM

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Well I use it at the end just on host and have a few Containers via systemd to start after them

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So 5 crypt mounts via systemd, one normal for backups which are duplicati encrypted, 6 fuse Mounts via systemd as well

clear ferry Oct 2, 2019, 7:09 AM

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oh, I only need to mount a smb share from freenas, and sync that to a folder on google drive

boreal pewter Oct 2, 2019, 7:10 AM

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And then just 6 upload scripts which are cron'ed

clear ferry Oct 2, 2019, 7:10 AM

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I tried using the cloud sync feature of freenas, but it was... not user friendly

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it uses rclone in the backend, but the gui part is rubbish

boreal pewter Oct 2, 2019, 7:11 AM

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What I found out is that you never want to write directly into a Gdrive Mount. It takes like 10 as much time

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That's why I fuse and upload per script

clear ferry Oct 2, 2019, 7:11 AM

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hmmmm

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I've only used fuse once, to mount a FTP share directly in linux 🤣

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it worked suprisingly well

boreal pewter Oct 2, 2019, 7:13 AM

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Well I have like /mnt/google/backup and backup-gd, Mount to backup-gd and fuse backup and backup-gd

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Because all Services rely on seeing what is there

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And writing is in backup then as well as the upload

clear ferry Oct 2, 2019, 7:16 AM

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what, I set PasswordAuthentication no and it still allows me to login with a password 🤔

velvet horizonBOT Oct 2, 2019, 7:16 AM

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@boreal pewter posted a message that is too long, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Hj6wcJhnQc/

clear ferry Oct 2, 2019, 7:16 AM

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ROFL

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that was the great wall of china

boreal pewter Oct 2, 2019, 7:16 AM

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😛

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If you don't require to SEE the files, you actually only need the move script 😄

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This is just backup not using crypt and rc as said

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For my media I also use rc and another systemd service that warms up the cache

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Having one server for torrents and external streaming as well as my personal server in localhost just for local streaming also let me play all my movies in 4k just fine until now

clear ferry Oct 2, 2019, 7:20 AM

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hah

final acorn Oct 2, 2019, 9:07 AM

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anybody has an idea how to open config folder in VS Code remotely through NabuCasa? 😄

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that would be awesome

hushed basalt Oct 2, 2019, 11:11 AM

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@clear ferry you know in Australia

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Not only do we not have double paned windows or air sealing

clear ferry Oct 2, 2019, 11:11 AM

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put it on the barbie ?

hushed basalt Oct 2, 2019, 11:11 AM

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But it's extremely common to find windows in bathrooms that don't close

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They have permanent open sections with fly screen

clear ferry Oct 2, 2019, 11:12 AM

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wtf

ocean mirage Oct 2, 2019, 11:14 AM

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Yeah mine has that

strange vapor Oct 2, 2019, 11:25 AM

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@hushed basalt I know a guy in Aus selling triple glazed windows and making a good living out of it.

ocean mirage Oct 2, 2019, 11:30 AM

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Oh it’s definitely more of a thing these days but it’s not as common as some places

clear ferry Oct 2, 2019, 11:31 AM

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strange, can't get a ikea bulb that is 2 meters from my CC2531 to join thonk

strange vapor Oct 2, 2019, 11:31 AM

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My brother was living in a cheap ass apartment in Crow's Nest in Sydney when I visited years ago. Some of the windows in the apartment were just plastic.

clear ferry Oct 2, 2019, 11:32 AM

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so it is true

ocean mirage Oct 2, 2019, 11:32 AM

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That I haven’t seen

clear ferry Oct 2, 2019, 11:32 AM

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australian people are lego people

hearty depot Oct 2, 2019, 11:35 AM

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@clear ferry
Well.. Firefox now runs trou ssh - but I cant type
still a shite experience
only the reload time of an window is aweful

clear ferry Oct 2, 2019, 11:35 AM

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sounds familiar 🤣

hushed basalt Oct 2, 2019, 11:35 AM

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I spoke to three builders

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Supposedly progressive eco efficient builders

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None of them had even heard of a heat recovery ventilator. And none of them did any sort of blower door testing

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Moral of the story is, don't build in Australia

ocean mirage Oct 2, 2019, 11:36 AM

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I don’t think I could deal with building

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Seems high stress

strange vapor Oct 2, 2019, 11:58 AM

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@hushed basalt Building in Ireland is fun at the moment. If building your own house, you're held to a FAR higher standard than the developers building large estates of houses.

hushed basalt Oct 2, 2019, 11:59 AM

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I'm sure developer lobbyists have not made any donations to political parties

strange vapor Oct 2, 2019, 11:59 AM

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The other fun one is that if you buy an old house and want to basically demolish and rebuild, you're forced to keep at least one wall by the planning permission office. Usually the excuse is so that you're not changing the asthetics of the area...

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Which means there has been a lot of accidents with heavy machinery where the wall that had to be kept suffered a mishap.

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So easy with a 20tn digger to go a little too far and compromise the structure of the wall

clear ferry Oct 2, 2019, 12:35 PM

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you know I'm a tab guy

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when chrome asks me "do you want to close 254 tabs"

low harness Oct 2, 2019, 12:42 PM

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Are you sure you don't have -2 8-bit tabs?

wet pilot Oct 2, 2019, 12:42 PM

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its always nice opening a PR. that's when i get to close like all of the tabs

hearty depot Oct 2, 2019, 12:46 PM

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I rather know now that youre a ram guy

clear ferry Oct 2, 2019, 1:11 PM

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@hearty depot pff, I only have 8GB in this old desktop

hearty depot Oct 2, 2019, 1:12 PM

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Then you're madman 🤓

clear ferry Oct 2, 2019, 1:14 PM

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nice, almost moved all my tradfris to zigbee2mqtt already

hearty depot Oct 2, 2019, 2:13 PM

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just asking me - could I use pfSense as a Router too?

scenic radish Oct 2, 2019, 2:22 PM

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@clear ferry i know this is more of a #zigbee-archived question, but you brought it up... advantages of zigbee2mqtt vs ZHA?

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currently running everything on ZHA

wet pilot Oct 2, 2019, 2:24 PM

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@hearty depot i thought that was its schtick

hearty depot Oct 2, 2019, 2:35 PM

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not toutched it yet - Thourght its more of an stateful firewall only

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my "worry" is that I cant attatch the AP to it

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disadvantage - when your broker gets fu...ed your lights are f.. now too

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lol
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/375055448187076611/625860432170582046/IMG_20190811_214351.jpg?width=400&height=300

clear ferry Oct 2, 2019, 3:37 PM

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@hearty depot your question is vague, pfsense is a router and firewall platform already ThonkEyes

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@scenic radish atleast when I used zha I think it created one mesh per product, zigbee2mqtt meshes across vendors

hearty depot Oct 2, 2019, 3:38 PM

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IDK 😅

scenic radish Oct 2, 2019, 4:50 PM

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interesting. i added a tradfri signal repeater and the other sensors (all of which are not tradfri) seem to be connecting to the repeater

hearty depot Oct 2, 2019, 5:32 PM

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testtest

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?

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Actually works lol

clever mortar Oct 2, 2019, 5:33 PM

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https://giphy.com/gifs/celebs-muppets-elmo-jPAdK8Nfzzwt2

Giphy

hearty depot Oct 2, 2019, 5:34 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-youre-welcome-wink-gif-14492653

Tenor

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fufu - Not using an actual interface with pfsense - but using the shared one is an... not working idea - But at least I can use all interfaces on the modem

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deam have to wait for my 4some NIC from china 🙈

clear ferry Oct 2, 2019, 7:59 PM

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ThonkEyes

clear ferry Oct 2, 2019, 9:11 PM

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If you needed a 4port NIC you should have just asked

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I would have sent you one 😛

scenic radish Oct 2, 2019, 10:03 PM

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🤔🤔🤔🤔

clear ferry Oct 2, 2019, 10:17 PM

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waitwhat

strange vapor Oct 2, 2019, 10:22 PM

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https://twitter.com/kvlly/status/1179189440276832263?s=19

Kelly Vaughn 🐞 (@kvlly)

I'd love to watch a movie where programming is accurately depicted.

A team is trying to quickly build an app that will save the world. The app won't compile. Someone keeps adding to the scope. The project manager is asking for an update every 15 minutes.

Retweets

582

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spark verge Oct 2, 2019, 11:44 PM

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Anyone feel like giving advice on where to put a 4-in-1 sensor?

icy chasm Oct 3, 2019, 12:01 AM

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wherever you'd need it? I've got one in my lounge, one under my stairs where my server rack is, another in my bedroom

spark verge Oct 3, 2019, 12:02 AM

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More like where within a room, think I figured it out though

icy chasm Oct 3, 2019, 12:14 AM

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I typically go for a mid point height wise - temp and humidity are different at different heights, and I put it at a neutral airflow spot

brisk furnace Oct 3, 2019, 1:11 AM

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anyone know if it's possible to have a neutral at the light bulbs itself but no neutral back in the receptacle?

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I have only white,black,ground at my receptacle

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but at the light fixture itself I have white joining black, black, white, and ground

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so 4 maretts

scenic radish Oct 3, 2019, 1:22 AM

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@brisk furnace yeah, you won't necessarily have a neutral at the switch

brisk furnace Oct 3, 2019, 1:22 AM

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yeah seems like the neutral is actually in the light fixture case

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in the light fixture receptacle sorry

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weird never seen that before, have you ever run the neutral back to your switch @scenic radish ?

scenic radish Oct 3, 2019, 1:24 AM

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Nope. Most of my switches have a neutral in the box

brisk furnace Oct 3, 2019, 1:24 AM

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yeah darn

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there's also an outlet below the switch, wondering if it has a neutral

scenic radish Oct 3, 2019, 1:24 AM

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By default it would, otherwise it wouldn't work

brisk furnace Oct 3, 2019, 1:25 AM

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could run it down just need to make sure they're on the same circuit

hearty depot Oct 3, 2019, 6:25 AM

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@clear ferry
Deam 🌱 but thanks 🙂

clear ferry Oct 3, 2019, 7:04 AM

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I need to clean up my garage anyway

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I think I have 10 X 4 port NICs down there 😛

rough zenith Oct 3, 2019, 8:17 AM

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is 3A output okay for raspberry pi? because i saw most of the store online is selling 3A power adapter. wouldn't current higher than 2.5A damage the pi?

low harness Oct 3, 2019, 8:18 AM

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No. Generally you can't force current into a device, but it will pull what it needs. Voltage, however...

rough zenith Oct 3, 2019, 8:37 AM

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alright then. might as well get the 3A since i'm gonna install a casing with fan which draw power from the pi. thank you.

hearty depot Oct 3, 2019, 9:18 AM

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Idea how I create an json out of an commandline output like ?

light trout Oct 3, 2019, 9:22 AM

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carefully

hearty depot Oct 3, 2019, 9:25 AM

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😛

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trying around with jq for the last two days - I miss something

urban steppe Oct 3, 2019, 9:48 AM

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Wish the Wyze Magnet sensor kit was on Amazon, as a Dutchie there no option to buy them atm 😦

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Contacted Wyze on twitter, they would forward it to the sales team... hope they add it soon 😄

low harness Oct 3, 2019, 9:51 AM

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@hearty depot | tr '\n', ',' | sed -e 's/^/[/' -e 's/,$/]/'

clear ferry Oct 3, 2019, 9:55 AM

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@strange vapor how is Lorenzo coming along?

hearty depot Oct 3, 2019, 9:56 AM

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sed: -e expression #2, char 6: unterminated `s' command 🙈

low harness Oct 3, 2019, 9:57 AM

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Fixed

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Some regex engines allow unterminated replacements for the substitute command...

strange vapor Oct 3, 2019, 10:01 AM

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@clear ferry Calm before the storm up in Dublin. Already being felt at the far side of the country.

clear ferry Oct 3, 2019, 10:01 AM

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🌬

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Just got a mail that our people will be working from home during the worst

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And we have backups in Europe if the power and networks go down

hearty depot Oct 3, 2019, 10:05 AM

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Deam - I hate it not beeing capible
Thanks so much!

clear ferry Oct 3, 2019, 10:07 AM

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Don't worry, we all suck at something, I'm the jackass of all trades, master of none, useless of code

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Which is why I tag ludeeus too much 😂

strange vapor Oct 3, 2019, 10:11 AM

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Pondering modifying a hifi to connect it's power button some GPIO pins on the Raspberry Pi doing snapcast duties behind it.

vapid lichen Oct 3, 2019, 10:16 AM

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Hello everybody, I have to buy a new TV and I want it to be able to sync with HA or openhab, what are your recomendations?
Any special brand or serie?

clear ferry Oct 3, 2019, 10:16 AM

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Webos has been very easily integrated for me

vapid lichen Oct 3, 2019, 10:18 AM

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@clear ferry that´s the os on LG tvs right?

clear ferry Oct 3, 2019, 10:18 AM

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Yes

vapid lichen Oct 3, 2019, 10:19 AM

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sweet 😄

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I´ve seen something really interesting about the hisense tvs having a mqtt broker installed, but I think with last update it got encrypted.
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/hisense-tv-control/97638

light trout Oct 3, 2019, 10:37 AM

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If you want to sync with HA or openHAb my recommendation is HA ;)

vapid lichen Oct 3, 2019, 10:51 AM

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@light trout what a surprise 😂

hushed basalt Oct 3, 2019, 12:12 PM

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My monthly aws bill was $0.51 this month

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Really need to keep those costs under control!

strange vapor Oct 3, 2019, 12:25 PM

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Do you know what's actually generating the $0.51?

scenic radish Oct 3, 2019, 1:09 PM

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@strange vapor @clear ferry why, what's going on over there

strange vapor Oct 3, 2019, 1:20 PM

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@scenic radish Storm Lorenzo is coming to say hello. West Coast of the country is going to take the brunt of it.

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Gusts up to 130km/h. We've had worse in the last few years.

scenic radish Oct 3, 2019, 1:26 PM

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oh, that's no good. sorry to hear that

clear ferry Oct 3, 2019, 2:14 PM

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hacktoberfest

clear ferry Oct 3, 2019, 2:41 PM

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📎 Screenshot_2019-10-03_at_16.41.04.png

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Doesn't look to bad

strange vapor Oct 3, 2019, 4:23 PM

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Graphviz based app for generating that?

clear ferry Oct 3, 2019, 5:59 PM

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Yeah, custom component

scenic radish Oct 3, 2019, 5:59 PM

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it's always a custom component

clear ferry Oct 3, 2019, 6:03 PM

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angryboi

scenic radish Oct 3, 2019, 6:08 PM

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A N G E R Y

clear ferry Oct 3, 2019, 7:32 PM

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ComfyFlush

scenic radish Oct 3, 2019, 7:36 PM

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And cold?

clear ferry Oct 3, 2019, 8:11 PM

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ahem

scenic radish Oct 3, 2019, 8:38 PM

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and... snide?

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also why can't i use these cool things

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:angryboi: does nothing

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😦

meager zephyr Oct 3, 2019, 10:43 PM

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Hello everyone.. I'm new here 🙂

gray pelican Oct 3, 2019, 11:37 PM

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Hey Dylan

meager zephyr Oct 4, 2019, 1:31 AM

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Hi Klutch

green inlet Oct 4, 2019, 1:39 AM

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Hey @meager zephyr , you have been here for over 7 minutes now, you are no longer new here

meager zephyr Oct 4, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Perfect!

meager zephyr Oct 4, 2019, 2:44 AM

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I'm not just new here. I'm super new to Home Assistant, too. I've known about it for a long time, but just recently started researching more and installed!

thick dragon Oct 4, 2019, 3:38 AM

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Moving into my first home in a few weeks. Already planned out a map of where I will be putting my sensors, cameras, and getting data cables run to. What else can I do to prepare my smart home before actually moving in?

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 3:48 AM

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Install home assistant and give it a try

thick dragon Oct 4, 2019, 3:51 AM

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Oh, I mean I have HA all set up already. Just wondering if there's anything more I can do in preparation 😛

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 3:54 AM

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Oh gotcha

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Can't think of anything, looks like you're in good shape

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Maybe rename devices to where they'll be when it gets closer to move-in

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But that might be temporarily confusing

orchid rose Oct 4, 2019, 4:03 AM

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prepare to be frustrated 🙂

thick dragon Oct 4, 2019, 4:04 AM

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I have bandaids ready to label all my bulbs and sensors. Well aware of how frustrating a smart home move can be 😛

orchid rose Oct 4, 2019, 4:17 AM

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One thing is to start thinking of what things or routines do you do every day or often and how to automate those. Some little things can go a long way making life easier, helping with the electric bill or making the whole thing feel very futuristic 🙂

thick dragon Oct 4, 2019, 4:28 AM

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Yeah, I have a bunch of automations that I'm going to want to try and set up. Already have the majority of the presence stuff automated, as well as the security stuff.

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I guess I could work on sketching out some ideas for Lovelace layouts and structures.

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Perhaps even pre-emptively modelling the house up in SweetHome3D so that I can make an interactive floorplan like this: https://aarongodfrey.dev/home automation/creating-a-3d-floorplan-in-home-assistant/

Automate The Things

Creating an Interactive 3D Floorplan in Home Assistant

How to create an interactive 3D floorplan in Home Assistant.

graceful lagoon Oct 4, 2019, 4:39 AM

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are puns allowed here? >.>

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also SH3D is the siiiit

thick dragon Oct 4, 2019, 4:46 AM

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Yeah, it was a fucking godsend when I was shopping for houses. 30-45 minutes to quickly build up a plan for the house and easily see whether it would fit all my shit in it.

low harness Oct 4, 2019, 8:35 AM

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Would it make sense to rename #frontend-archived to #frontend?

strange vapor Oct 4, 2019, 10:18 AM

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It would probably make it easier for newcomers to figuer out what is what.

valid halo Oct 4, 2019, 10:38 AM

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Hey y'all

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been at my tech job for a while now

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finally got paid and such

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gotten in the swing of things

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Gotten annoyed at how slow things feel at times.

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Sometimes people have 40GB of PST Files and the Slow USB Port/HDD can take ten minutes to copy it all.

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My coworker keeps shooting down my idea to just bring in an SSD of mine

clear ferry Oct 4, 2019, 11:01 AM

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10 minutes? Oh boy let me tell you about when I pirated Titanic @Doctor_Mod#8420

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It took me three days with resume download 😛

low harness Oct 4, 2019, 11:36 AM

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Napster on dial-up?

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Those were the days. You'd wait for the clock to pass 18:00 when the rates were lower, and then bring out the list you'd made during the day of things to get from or look up at the Internet.

orchid rose Oct 4, 2019, 12:02 PM

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we had a monthly subscription 56k for a while, lol 😄

clear ferry Oct 4, 2019, 12:05 PM

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It was free with ISDN between 24:00 and 06:00 I remember

orchid rose Oct 4, 2019, 12:08 PM

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for us it was half price from 18 to 06 iirc

strange vapor Oct 4, 2019, 12:59 PM

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Was on flatrate dialup plan where between 18:00 and 06:00 there was no extra cost. Dialed up at 18:05, and disconnected at 05:55. Was one of the first peopel thrown off that plan when Esat decided it wasn't economically viable 😄

midnight adder Oct 4, 2019, 1:11 PM

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yohoo

hushed basalt Oct 4, 2019, 1:43 PM

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I remember it taking 5 hours to download counterstrike 0.7

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That whopping 50Mbytes

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📎 Screenshot_20191004-214914_Chrome_11.jpg

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Homelab is getting there

clear ferry Oct 4, 2019, 2:13 PM

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Get out of my head Charleeeees

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:18 PM

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@undone aspen get over here, quick. i hear the mods

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also @unreal orbit what's the difference between mod, jedi, and padawan

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 2:19 PM

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the color of the name

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:19 PM

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i get the star wars reference but the rarity colors are backward if mod is the highest

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and no one is legendary. shame.

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 2:20 PM

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mods have actual discord mod capabilities, padawans get a different color name and nothing else, jedi have the ability to attach images in any channel

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:20 PM

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oh wait, fabaff is legendary color, nvm

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oh i see

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 2:21 PM

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jedi might have more perks, but I wouldn't know 😉

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:21 PM

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i also wouldn't

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i'm just a plebe

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i can hardly hear you down here

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 2:21 PM

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tilts his head

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 2:21 PM

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It's an arbitrary system. I stopped caring about it 🤷

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:22 PM

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yeah im jk lol

clear ferry Oct 4, 2019, 2:22 PM

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I can attach images in any channel ThinkEyes

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This is news to me ThinkEyes

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:22 PM

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use your powers for good

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 2:22 PM

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Heh

clear ferry Oct 4, 2019, 2:22 PM

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Hang on I'll post something naughty

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:22 PM

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all channels are about to be flooded with gifs

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 2:23 PM

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The mods giveth, the mods taketh away, be careful 😉

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 2:23 PM

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So, yeah. I looked at all those home security systems. Ring.com is the one I considered heavily getting into, and their professional monitoring service is $10/mo, but their unwillingness to allow local non-cloud control over their hardware is annoying me.

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:23 PM

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yeah most companies don't want to develop a local api is my guess

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 2:24 PM

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Yeah? Well I don't want to support that laziness. 🙂

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:24 PM

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not so much laziness as it is subscription fees

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people would complain either way

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 2:24 PM

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It's laziness and $$$. 🙂

clear ferry Oct 4, 2019, 2:24 PM

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https://images.app.goo.gl/z1tzBE4AECXsXs8v5

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 2:24 PM

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Mostly $$$

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You didn't even upload the image to the channel 🤣

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And everyone can upload images to this channel

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:25 PM

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what a noob

clear ferry Oct 4, 2019, 2:25 PM

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No I was too scared flushedOMG

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:26 PM

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i'm gonna upload my entire home assistant db right now

clear ferry Oct 4, 2019, 2:26 PM

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Angry @unreal orbit angryboi

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:26 PM

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with .png as the extension instead

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HOW DO I DO ANGRYBOI

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it doesn't work

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:angryboi:

clear ferry Oct 4, 2019, 2:27 PM

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Fun fact, on a $300.000 server you can upload angryboi.png as the server firmware, and it will write it

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 2:27 PM

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You aren't a nitro subscriber and you're not in whatever discord server that comes from

clear ferry Oct 4, 2019, 2:27 PM

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I tried once...

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:27 PM

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@unreal orbit oh that makes sense

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📎 628675783258537985.png

clear ferry Oct 4, 2019, 2:27 PM

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To be specific, on a RX8640

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📎 Screenshot_20190910_221216.jpg

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:28 PM

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love it

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PC LOAD LETTER? what the fuck does that mean?

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 2:29 PM

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Heh

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 2:29 PM

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We have printers so old at work that I still see that error message

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 2:29 PM

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Even NEW printers still do that.

clear ferry Oct 4, 2019, 2:29 PM

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But have you ever seen LPT1 on fire @unreal orbit ?

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:29 PM

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@unreal orbit have you ever taken the printer outside and beat the shit out of it with a bat?

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 2:29 PM

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Like actually burst into flames? I have not mindblown

clear ferry Oct 4, 2019, 2:30 PM

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Happens with the Linux printer driver still I believe, it just means the printer is disconnected these days, but in the old Unix days it was actually because the cable was so big and passing so much current it could literally catch fire

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 2:30 PM

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@scenic radish I wish I had

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:30 PM

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the first paragraph in this is hilarious: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lp0_on_fire

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"The message did not reliably indicate whether the printer in question was actually on fire."

clear ferry Oct 4, 2019, 2:31 PM

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So a short circuit would throw that message in the unix console

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Yes, that is the one

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:31 PM

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well, i think there's a pretty reliable way to determine if the printer is on fire already...

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 2:31 PM

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What I love is their falsified information of ink levels on printers, and not actually sensing, but guestimating entirely.

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:31 PM

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black is at 9. 9...units.

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 2:34 PM

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Dealing with a parallel port printer plugged into a Windows 7 machine needing to run an XP virtual machine to run the DOS programs my company still uses to print reports is the bane of my existence. The shit I've had to do to keep archaic technology functional with modern computers...

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:34 PM

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lmao wtf

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 2:34 PM

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And no, dos box does not work.

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It needs windows print drivers

clear ferry Oct 4, 2019, 2:35 PM

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Rofl, im so glad I stopped working with end user and internal it

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:35 PM

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XP was fire though, ngl

clear ferry Oct 4, 2019, 2:35 PM

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I'm never going back angryboi

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:36 PM

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📎 628675783258537985.png

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 2:36 PM

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Ewww Windows?

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 2:37 PM

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The most frustrating thing is I can write a program that completely replaces the DOS program with actual good looking reports in like 3 days. But apparently that's not necessary 🙂 🔫

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:37 PM

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ugh

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"we've always done it this way" is my least favorite phrase

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Exactly

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:37 PM

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yes, we've always done it this way because no one wants to move to a better way

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everyone is too lazy

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 2:37 PM

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"it works" is even worse. "Works" has vastly different meaning depending on the user

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:37 PM

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lmao

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walking to work also "works"

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but if you live 40 miles away, driving is better

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64km for those who don't use freedom units

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 2:38 PM

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The story of my life in a nutshell ☝

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trying to explain that basic concept

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:38 PM

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yup

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 2:38 PM

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I tried to move my company from monitoring with one tool, which doesn’t scale well. To something new. But was declined because of that same reason. Well we’re familiar with this way...

clear ferry Oct 4, 2019, 2:39 PM

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I'm so glad I don't have to have these discussions either 🤷

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pimph

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:39 PM

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thankfully the company i work for actually embraces change

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Mine does too... too a point. But they also want to do it little by little too.

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 2:40 PM

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I try to write all of my programs for scale, which takes a bit more time than developing for the very few people that are currently using the software. Trying to explain why it's a good thing to be dynamic is like talking to a brick wall

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 2:40 PM

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And so we’re stuck with s salt version dated back into 2015 still....

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:41 PM

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@unreal orbit same. it honestly takes less time sometimes for me to make it dynamic

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instead of haphazardly pasting shit together

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 2:41 PM

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And by "scale" I mean corporation-user scale, not general public scale. That's way over my head

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:41 PM

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i'm also talking about financial reports, not programs

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 2:41 PM

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hey everyone

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 2:42 PM

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Yeah making things dynamic now will save you hours in the future

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:42 PM

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exactly

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 2:42 PM

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No wave for me 😢

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 2:42 PM

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quickest question ever (yeah right): would the NUC version of Ubuntu work on any small form-factor PC or is it dedicated in some way?

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 2:42 PM

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♥

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 2:42 PM

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i brought home a Fujitsu Esprimo and I'm planning to migrate my current HASSIO on that

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:42 PM

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i was wondering if you'd notice that lol

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 2:43 PM

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would this image work? https://ubuntu.com/download/iot/intel-nuc-desktop

Ubuntu

Install Ubuntu Desktop on the Intel® NUC | Ubuntu

Ubuntu is an open source software operating system that runs from the desktop, to the cloud, to all your internet connected things.

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 2:44 PM

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That's just an installation guide, the OS is not hardware specific

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:44 PM

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hassio installer should work on any linux distro i believe

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 2:44 PM

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Though they do have ARM distros

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I run Ubuntu Server on a non-NUC small PC

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absolutely no issues as far as the OS goes

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 2:45 PM

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yeah, but that seems like a NUC-oriented ubuntu distro

clear ferry Oct 4, 2019, 2:45 PM

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ubuntu 🤢

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 2:45 PM

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just wondering if that's fine on a non-NUC device or if I'd be missing out on drivers

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i think i'm much better off getting a normal ubuntu desktop distro

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 2:47 PM

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I recommend not installing a desktop distro for a server. It just wastes resources

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:47 PM

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yeah

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headless is bestest

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 2:48 PM

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true that, but this seems like a pretty powerful PC to "waste" it by just running it headless

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i could double it as a work pc of sorts

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... or maybe i'd better not, least i kill my whole house by messing it up

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:50 PM

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not a waste. home assistant will be quick

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 2:50 PM

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true that

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 2:51 PM

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@unreal orbit You know what IS wierd thought.

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 2:51 PM

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but i still don't know whether the NUC distro is fine for me though

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:51 PM

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why are you set on the nuc distro

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 2:51 PM

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eh, just following a guide

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 2:51 PM

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That problem with monitor.sh I'm having, where it just stops scanning reliably? It happened on BOTH p0w's last night at 12:57, (and the restart fixed it at 1:05)

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 2:52 PM

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the seemed more lightweight than regular distros

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:52 PM

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slap debian on that bitch

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 2:52 PM

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Both, simaltaneously just stopping..... That alone is wierdness..

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 2:52 PM

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@scenic radish pros? I've got Debian on my VPS and while it's fine, I was wondering whether I should try something new

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:53 PM

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eh idk. only distro i've ever used is debian so i'm not a good resource for suggestions lol

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 2:53 PM

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@undone aspen that is strange. You can check the log to see if there was anything screwy going on around that time

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 2:53 PM

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@scenic radish that makes 2 of us then

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 2:53 PM

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I like Ubuntu Server, but again that's the only one I'm familiar with

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I think people make a bunch of fuss over which distro is best when they all do basically the same thing

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:54 PM

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exactly lol

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 2:54 PM

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especially a headless server

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 2:54 PM

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i mean, debian and ubuntu ARE the same thing

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it's not like i'm setting up, what was it, fedora?

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or whichever unix system uses yum rather than apt-get

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 2:54 PM

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@unreal orbit Nothing in kernel logs. And the only thing that showed up in monitor.sh logs was that, confidence just dropped on me while I was home./

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My last kernel log is actually Oct 2.

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:55 PM

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somebody on the forums said that it's not possible to run the hassio installer on debian 10...but i did exactly that a month or two ago when i moved from one SSD to another. anyone know why they might have said that?

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 2:55 PM

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Mmmm, Fedora.. 😉

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@scenic radish I just installed hassio on Debian 10 on my PI4. 🙂

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It wasn't perfect, but I did it. Mostly an issue with docker repo.

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 2:56 PM

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come to the chat with a question, get more questions!

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:56 PM

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@serene isle what's your favorite color?

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favorite food?

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favorite linux distro?

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 2:56 PM

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ok, ubuntu it is, i'm really into too many layers of complications to add another one

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when i thought i had somehow mastered HA, ESPHome comes up, then I have to learn some basic electronics, now I need to migrate HA to a totally different server

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let's not overdo it!

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:57 PM

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lmao

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i felt the same way when i finally became comfortable with templating

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then i tried to do a for loop

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ded

light trout Oct 4, 2019, 2:58 PM

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just run it on a windows server 🤷

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 2:58 PM

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templating is ALMOST EASY now, lambda.. lambda is where it's at

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 2:58 PM

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Windows? I use those all the time to let the light in.

light trout Oct 4, 2019, 2:58 PM

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and use oracle for DB

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 2:59 PM

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@undone aspen what's your opinion on Windows?

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 2:59 PM

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i think i'll stick to whatever has more guides actually

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 2:59 PM

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They're transparent. You can see outside (or inside) with them.

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 2:59 PM

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i would've gotten a NUC just for the peace of mind but those are expensive

light trout Oct 4, 2019, 2:59 PM

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"more guides" != good/up to date guides ❗

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 3:00 PM

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ok ok, not more

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https://community.home-assistant.io/t/absolute-beginners-guide-to-installing-ha-on-intel-nuc-using-docker/98412 this one looked fine to me

Home Assistant Community

Absolute Beginners guide to installing HA on Intel NUC using Docker

Target Audience Hello everyone, this is a first guide I’m writing which should help people looking to upgrade from a Raspberry Pi to Intel NUC to run their Home Assistant instances. Assumptions At this point, I assume the following You have a fair understanding of how Ho...

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but of course i'm still stuck on the pre-requisites paragraph, this one should be the easiest part

light trout Oct 4, 2019, 3:01 PM

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Don't use that

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https://www.home-assistant.io/hassio/installation/#alternative-install-on-a-generic-linux-host

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 3:03 PM

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ok, will do, but still... why are there so many ubuntu distro?

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the server versions lack an intel distro or is it just me (and their absolutely unclear website)?

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 3:04 PM

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@unreal orbit Heh, I thought I'd get smart and try to use an ESP32 to do BLE based detection (or at least Bluetooth classic, but the esphome sdk doesn't include classic bluetooth yet), but because most modern smart phones these days randomize the BLE MAC, that didn't work. ;/

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 3:05 PM

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@undone aspen they shouldn't randomize it anymore after an initial pairing though

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 3:05 PM

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You don't pair them, though.

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 3:05 PM

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The idea is not to pair them

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 3:05 PM

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^

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 3:06 PM

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bluetooth? more like pootooth amirite

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 3:06 PM

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sorite

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 3:06 PM

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Bluetooth classic, without BLE, works, but when you throw in BLE, that BLE gets randomized.

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 3:06 PM

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you can't pair them once the first time and that's it?

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 3:06 PM

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Maintaining a bluetooth connection is a totally different animal than scanning for devices

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 3:06 PM

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And uses more energy.

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 3:07 PM

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It would be a completely different system

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 3:07 PM

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the scanner just looks for bluetooth devices in the area

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 3:07 PM

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ah, right

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 3:07 PM

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Though a paired system is not necessarily a terrible solution for all situations. I've been considering setting something like that up for myself

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 3:08 PM

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so yeah, i'm getting the ubuntu server distro, am I fine even if it says amd64 in the filename?

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a classic x64 would've been appreciated

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and this is why I get my VPSs pre-installed

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 3:09 PM

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I'd thought, at one point, that the bluetooth was becoming unruly because of thermal migration, but after checking that, the temperature was pretty sane. 30's-40's.

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 3:09 PM

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that's chilly

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 3:09 PM

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It's the same thing. amd64 is just what 64 bit processors are called

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 3:09 PM

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i was used to x86 and x64

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unix, overcomplicating since 19xx

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 3:09 PM

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https://www.computerhope.com/jargon/a/amd64.htm

What is AMD64?

Computer dictionary definition for what AMD64 means including related links, information, and terms.

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 3:10 PM

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The other idea I have is to possibly use a different bluetooth adapter on the USB off a pigtail USB adapter.

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That MIGHT solve the issue.... Maybe....

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 3:11 PM

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Yeah I think I remember something about not all pi zero bluetooth controllers being the same

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that might actually work

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 3:11 PM

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thanks for the help so far

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 3:11 PM

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Yeah.

unreal orbit Oct 4, 2019, 3:11 PM

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And that would explain how we have the "same" setup with different results

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 3:12 PM

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yeah.

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I got a Vilros P0W kit, and a 2017 model P0W (by itself), just recently.

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And the exact same results between both of them. heh

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At the exact same time, no less. LOL

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Now, granted too. I am running Raspbian 10 on both of them as well.

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You probably ran 8 or 9.

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Now, I just need to find some decent bluetooth USB dongles.

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I have a couple old ones actually, that were bluetooth 3.0, might test with those. 🙂

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Old chinese-made pieces of crap broadcom's but, they work for basic bluetooth. Not so much for audio or distance factoring.

clear ferry Oct 4, 2019, 3:22 PM

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IA64 > AMD64 ❤

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 3:22 PM

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Ewwww!

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I think I just threw up in my mouth.

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 3:24 PM

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flashing USB

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now, to find a spare keyboard

clear ferry Oct 4, 2019, 3:25 PM

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IA64 will give me overtime for the next 20 years atleast😛

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 3:28 PM

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of course this thing has a display port instead of a normal HDMI port

clear ferry Oct 4, 2019, 3:28 PM

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I would say most desktop monitors with HDMI also has DP

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In my experience

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 3:30 PM

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i'm the one lacking a cable though

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i really need to step up my cable game

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fine, i'll unplug my main monitor, going dark, if you don't hear from me i'm most likely cursing at ubuntu

clear ferry Oct 4, 2019, 3:34 PM

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I have too many cables, I always save, I think I have 30 VGA dsub cables in my drawer sad

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 4:41 PM

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Welp. I found one of my older bluetooth dongles, so I'm trying it out. 🙂

serene isle Oct 4, 2019, 4:46 PM

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guess who's baaaaaack

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so, HASSIO up and running

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less painful than i imagined, still had issues but ok

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how do I migrate my current setup to the new one? would a snapshot do it?

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i'd like to prevent as much reconfiguration as possible so users, integrations, addons, whatever can be brought over, I'm in

clear ferry Oct 4, 2019, 4:59 PM

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@serene isle #330990055533576204

undone aspen Oct 4, 2019, 5:05 PM

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Heh. Is 100 meters for bluetooth in a micro bluetooth dongle even realistic?

strange vapor Oct 4, 2019, 5:17 PM

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CSI:Cyber taught me that you can create a scoped Bluetooth "Rifle" to snipe files off phones..... So 100m sounds legit!!

brisk glen Oct 4, 2019, 5:31 PM

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yes

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you will be suprised at how far bluetooth can go

clear ferry Oct 4, 2019, 5:38 PM

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@strange vapor did you try to ping 192.345.542.1 with a visual basic frontend running on a JavaScript console?

brisk glen Oct 4, 2019, 5:42 PM

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unifi has been fired from my home and all of my families home networks

strange vapor Oct 4, 2019, 5:44 PM

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@clear ferry Yes. It didn't work.

brisk glen Oct 4, 2019, 5:44 PM

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im tired of their broken shit

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 5:56 PM

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is unifi really that bad? i was thinking of switching from my google wifi router

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trigger:
  platform: state
  entity_id: router.router
  from: google_wifi
  to: ?

can someone help me figure out what to should be?

clear ferry Oct 4, 2019, 5:58 PM

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I run Linksys mesh AP's in bridge mode, quite happy with price for value

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But I have 25 enterprise access points in boxes in my garage also 🤷

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 5:59 PM

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i'll take one, thx

clear ferry Oct 4, 2019, 5:59 PM

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EU frequency

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Or I would have sent you one

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Don't wanna be banned from entering the US

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 5:59 PM

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lmao

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well i appreciate the thought

clear ferry Oct 4, 2019, 6:00 PM

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Pfsense for routing, firewall and VPN duties though

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 6:00 PM

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i am mostly happy with my google wifi router

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i do like the app

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but i also got it before i got into home assistant, so i realize there's definitely better options out there

glad solar Oct 4, 2019, 6:07 PM

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I have a raspberry pi 3+ sitting around. Is this device good enough to run homeassistant on for the time being? I'm a noob to homeassistant and want to learn on this device before inventing in something bigger. I just want to run a few devices in my home.

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 6:08 PM

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absolutely, been running it on my 3B+ for 10 months

clever mortar Oct 4, 2019, 6:11 PM

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#330944238910963714 would be the place to ask though 😉

past idol Oct 4, 2019, 6:11 PM

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hey guys

glad solar Oct 4, 2019, 6:11 PM

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@scenic radish awesome glad to hear

past idol Oct 4, 2019, 6:12 PM

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do you think a 150x75 or a 200x60 desk would be more ideal?

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as a computer desk

glad solar Oct 4, 2019, 6:12 PM

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@clever mortar thanks for the heads up

clever mortar Oct 4, 2019, 6:12 PM

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150mm is going to be a touch wide

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150 inches will be a bit narrow

past idol Oct 4, 2019, 6:12 PM

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cm

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 6:12 PM

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200 x 60 wins by 750 square whatever units that is

clever mortar Oct 4, 2019, 6:13 PM

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Depends on what you're putting on that desk, and the space it's going in

past idol Oct 4, 2019, 6:13 PM

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the thing is that I could use that +50 cm

clever mortar Oct 4, 2019, 6:13 PM

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Then WTF are you asking for?

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 6:13 PM

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lol

past idol Oct 4, 2019, 6:13 PM

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ookaay

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nevermind

clever mortar Oct 4, 2019, 6:14 PM

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Hey, should I get this thing that does exactly what I want, or that other thing that doesn't

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 6:14 PM

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lmaooooo

light trout Oct 4, 2019, 6:14 PM

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other thing!

past idol Oct 4, 2019, 6:14 PM

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you know if you could have just waited for a few more seconds

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without yelling

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you would know more about it

clever mortar Oct 4, 2019, 6:15 PM

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No yelling here - just wondering why the heck you're asking

past idol Oct 4, 2019, 6:15 PM

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okay

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 6:18 PM

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@past idol but really though, 200x60 is more area than 150x75

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if that makes any difference

light trout Oct 4, 2019, 6:18 PM

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I want 200x80, stupid IKEA have wierd measures..

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 6:19 PM

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more depth is good if you want more space for a keyboard and monitor to be in line with each other I suppose

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@light trout what's wrong with 200x60?

vast dove Oct 4, 2019, 6:20 PM

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Too narrow

light trout Oct 4, 2019, 6:20 PM

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for starters it 20cm less then what I want?

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 6:20 PM

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why is it a weird size i mean

vast dove Oct 4, 2019, 6:20 PM

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200x80 is Nice

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 6:20 PM

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i'm in the US so i don't know what typical dimensions would be in cm

light trout Oct 4, 2019, 6:20 PM

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No place for monitor stand + keyboard + room to acutally use that keyboard

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 6:21 PM

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gotcha

light trout Oct 4, 2019, 6:21 PM

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.in2cm 55

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😦

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 6:21 PM

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wut

clever mortar Oct 4, 2019, 6:25 PM

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2.5 cm to the inch

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But, for a single device + normal monitor, 100 cm is fine in my experience

light trout Oct 4, 2019, 6:26 PM

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It's friday night, math is out the window 😉

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 6:26 PM

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ah gotcha. i knew the conversion, i just don't know if expectations for desk size differ in the US vs elsewhere

clever mortar Oct 4, 2019, 6:26 PM

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My office desk at home is about 150 cm, and that has a monitor, bunch of crap, and usually personal and work laptop, phone, lamp and stuff

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It's fine size wise, and would be better if I cleared the crap off it

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 6:27 PM

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every horizontal surface in my game room is covered with random shit i should probably throw away

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except the entertainment center itself

past idol Oct 4, 2019, 6:29 PM

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@scenic radish - The thing is that I am looking at IKEA items. And this is the two size. 200 cm length would be awesome, by my monitor takes up quite a bit of space. The thing is I am kind of afraid that it would be too close with the 60cm width. I mean 15cm is a lot. And also I need to put a supporting element in the middle of the 200cm and that interferes with my foot stand

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 6:30 PM

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sounds like 150x75 it is

past idol Oct 4, 2019, 6:30 PM

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and that is why I asked, as I wonder if anyone has 60cm and thinks it is fine

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 6:30 PM

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makes sense

clever mortar Oct 4, 2019, 6:30 PM

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My desk is 60cm deep, it's fine

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The previous one was 50cm deep, that too was fine 🤷

light trout Oct 4, 2019, 6:31 PM

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if 150 is too small, you can always add https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/alex-drawer-unit-white-10192824/

clever mortar Oct 4, 2019, 6:31 PM

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So much of this is personal preference

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 6:31 PM

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that's a good idea

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or another 150x75 desk at a right angle to the first one

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(not serious but also might work if you're rolling in dough)

past idol Oct 4, 2019, 6:33 PM

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@scenic radish @light trout thanks

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@clever mortar yes, and no

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as not every monitor has large stand like this one

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it takes up quite a bit of space

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and also depends on the size

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 6:34 PM

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we didn't know that though

past idol Oct 4, 2019, 6:34 PM

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what size of monitores are you using?

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monitors*

clever mortar Oct 4, 2019, 6:35 PM

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How about you start by telling us all these little details that matter

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Rather than going X or Y

scenic radish Oct 4, 2019, 6:35 PM

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🍿