the-water-cooler

[amber bramble]

I want motorized blinds for my living room but I don't want to shell out $450 per window :/

[clear ferry]

@amber bramble tradfri not an option ?

those are cheap af

[quartz ether]

Wrong type if you have curtains

The MoveZ ones work with pull string curtains

[amber bramble]

did trafdri ever release their blinds?

[clear ferry]

@quartz ether haven't seen that around since the early 90s either...

@amber bramble they are in stores now, so yes 🤣

[quartz ether]

Curtains?

[clear ferry]

Pull string ones

[quartz ether]

There is really only 3 kinds... motorised, string and manual pull each curtain to the center

[clear ferry]

norwegians just put their curtains up, we don't move them about 🤷

[quartz ether]

You don't open and close curtains?

[clear ferry]

no

[quartz ether]

Wtf do you do when you go to sleep?

[clear ferry]

not since the 90s 🤣

[ocean mirage]

Cause you can’t see through the fucking ice anyway

[clear ferry]

we have windows that light comes through when the sun starts shining ?

[quartz ether]

But what if you don't want the light to shine through so you can sleep in

[ocean mirage]

It’s daylight for 40 days straight

[clear ferry]

in northern norway we usually have the curtains closed from may to august, because of the midnight sun, the rest of the year, and the rest of the country they are just open 24\7

[ocean mirage]

How do you sleep then

Ah

Automate that

[quartz ether]

Lol

[clear ferry]

I used to hang thick duvet covers on my windows in summer when I was a kid

to be able to sleep

[quartz ether]

Spend hundreds to move the curtains twice a year

[ocean mirage]

Makes sense

[clear ferry]

just hung there for three months

[ocean mirage]

Why do people live there again

[quartz ether]

My curtains are almost black out cause I work nights therfore sleep during the day

[clear ferry]

because we like snow, and tax rebates

my bedroom curtains are closed 24\7, all other are open 24\7 in the south of norway

[ocean mirage]

Don’t lie

[clear ferry]

I NEVER LIE

[ocean mirage]

Does the king of Norway force you to stay

[clear ferry]

yes, he's a bit of a weirdo

hang on I'll grab you a good video

damnit, I only find serious videos

[ocean mirage]

Lol

Norwegian names are pretty entertaining

Gro Harlem

[clear ferry]

You forgot her second surname 🤣

[ocean mirage]

Princess Martha oh that’s good

[clear ferry]

It's really Märtha

[ocean mirage]

That’s just a fancy a

[clear ferry]

It's actually closer to a Æ

[ocean mirage]

Assuming a native English speaker knows anything about linguistics is not smart

Haakon is an evil name if I heard one

That guy is gonna challenge the throne

[clear ferry]

It is a classic kings name in Norway

Haakon (or Håkon) and Harald, and Olav

[ocean mirage]

Classic evil king name maybe

Harald I know

Oddvard fucking Nilsen

Siri Frost Sterri

[clear ferry]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylfest_Lomheim

This guy has one of the weirdest names ever

and he is part of the norwegian language council

[ocean mirage]

Not gonna lie, from here it’s about the same

Why don’t you just call everyone Bruce

[clear ferry]

I have a finnish origining name, so I always have to pronounce it when I check into receptions

[scenic radish]

my last name means "otter" in polish and russian lol

maybe i descended from otters or something

or i'm actual otterkin instead of those pretend furries

[clear ferry]

Otter is pronounced the same as åtter in norwegian, which means the eight as in I just pulled an åtter out of the deck

[scenic radish]

i don't understand

[boreal pewter]

Anyone of the folks here using any kind of Kube and willing to help out a bit?

[clear ferry]

https://open.spotify.com/track/4dRHlpXQJckNILrQztyCzt?si=0nAQyOB9TtqP2AEErR5XqQ

[boreal pewter]

@clear ferry could you learn Kube tonight and teach me tmrw? 😄

[clear ferry]

like I have time for that, I'm learning three other things right now, I have the cold and I'm updating a full VDI enviroment while I am prepping for a workshop and waiting for a call from a competing company 🤣

ask me next week

[boreal pewter]

I heard updating VDI's is as simple as just plugging all connections off 😛

[clear ferry]

sure, when you are updating the actual VDIs themselves, not the hosts in a cluster that is 90% full 🤣

[boreal pewter]

Nono you have to use the host and plug all physical cable connections 😛

[clear ferry]

Verdamte schweinhund

9⃣ 9⃣ 9⃣

now that is interesting, linkedin tells me the people who look me up on linkedin are all in competing companies 🤣

Dell, Fujitsu, Lenovo, Purity and Dustin, last two are norwegian companies

[boreal pewter]

What did you expect? Your own company caring about you? LOL there is only one time the company interests for you, when you have your interview 😄

[clear ferry]

I already told my manager that I am looking around, she said she will counter any offer 🤣

we'll see

But I didn't know people were looking at me 🤔

[boreal pewter]

Ouch... that would be a great offer... I once had an offer of 78k€ but about 200km away so I declined

[clear ferry]

that is roughly what I have now, without extras

[odd mason]

man salaries in europe suck

i really wish they were better, i'd move in an instant

@clear ferry how many years of experience for about 80k?

[clear ferry]

10ish

Started out at 35

[vast dove]

[scenic radish]

@clear ferry she might counter any offer, but she knows that your loyalty to the company is gone, so she might fire you soon after...

not saying it's wrong to look around (of course it's not), just a warning

[vast dove]

Difficult to fire people in Norway unfortunatly

[scenic radish]

ah, i hadn't considered that

my 🅱

[vast dove]

But i agree with the loyalty part. Personally i never counter if people tell me they got another offer from a competitor. Better to let them leave.

[midnight adder]

i'm going fuckin insane

my network shows three online yeelights

i can ping all of them

but i only know the physical location of two

[scenic radish]

seeing your avatar next to "i'm going fuckin insane" made me legit lol

[clear ferry]

@vast dove only way to get raises in American companies 😛

@scenic radish she also knows that I have five open offers at our biggest customers that I haven't taken

[odd mason]

Holy crap....move to the states lol

That's ridiculous

[clear ferry]

No, I enjoy basic healthcare and 40 weeks paternity leave 😂

[odd mason]

Lol true

But with 10 years experience you can make 150K in tech

More if you can get lucky

[clear ferry]

I make close to that with overtime though 🤷

[odd mason]

Overtime? That's nice!

I wouldn't mind living in Europe to be honest. Just can't get away from these tech salaries lol. Hopefully we can retire in the next 5-10 years and move somewhere else.

[vast dove]

Bet cost of living is higher in US compared to Norway based on salaries

Our social benefits are also worth something

[odd mason]

Cost of living is pretty decent

[clear ferry]

I own my own house, it costs me $820 per month 🤷

[odd mason]

Social benefits definitely way better in Europe. That's kinda why I'd like to move there especially when retired

820/mo for what?

Mortgage?

[clear ferry]

Yes, 2700sqft

[odd mason]

That's pretty decent

It's about what you can expect here too

My mortgage is 1500 and I'm in a 3500 sq ft house

The medical benefits and other social stuff is what I'm really envious about

We have insurance through my wife's work and it's okay but you're still looking at like 300/mo + 1500 deductible

And that's considered "decent" here. It's crazy

[wet pilot]

add a kid and it gets worse

[odd mason]

We have one

That's what we pay for family

[past scarab]

Hello everyone, I'm looking for someone to edit a 3D STl file. I would like to modify a sonoff basic switch desing to add a PIR sensor and a temperature / humidity sensor
I found a switch model that I like but after several hours in fusion 360 I can not do anything ... Someone would like to help me?
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61b2YY21p8L._SX466_.jpg
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2820884

[clear ferry]

Costs me $15 to see the doctor, and if I need a specialist and surgery I pay up to $250 total, everything else is covered by the state

[odd mason]

Man that's nice

[clear ferry]

For the whole year, so if I need five specialists and five surgeries I still only pay 250

[odd mason]

Until we retire and move I'll live vicariously through /r/expat lol

[clear ferry]

Until next year starts

Then it resets

[odd mason]

That's how it should be. We have stupid social security here and it's so dumb. We shouldn't be guaranteeing people's retirement we should be guaranteeing their health.

But it'll never happen here. Insurance lobby is way too powerful

[wet pilot]

"guaranteeing" though. SS was originally a scam that was never supposed to pay out

[odd mason]

For sure...my dad collects it right now and it's like 700/mo. It's pathetic. I bet he's easily give that up for good health insurance though

Sorry....healthCARE

[scenic radish]

@clear ferry ah that changes things a bit

[hushed basalt]

I love Amazon primes definition of two day shipping

Order something 10.30pm Sunday, dispatched Tuesday, arrives Thursday.

[wet pilot]

it is typically calculated from the time it ships

[ocean mirage]

its fairly meaningless then really

if they won't ship it quick

[wet pilot]

did it actually ship from amazon?

[scenic radish]

They give you a delivery date before you order it at least

[jaunty summit]

yeah normally if amazon has it in one of their distribution centers its next day for me.

[quartz ether]

Anyone here know much about the NZ/AU standards and if the Shelly (https://shelly.cloud) is legally allowed to be installed in walls

[wet pilot]

maybe if you put them in upside-down?

[scenic radish]

heh

[quartz ether]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF80Y28zhqg

[scenic radish]

if it's anything like the US, anything low voltage (ethernet, video cable, etc) is ok

[wet pilot]

they're a lot more strict over there

[quartz ether]

I know low voltage is fine here also. But Shelly's go in line on 240v feed. So need to make sure it is legal cause otherwise no insurance even if it isnt the cause for damage insurance company can say no to entire claim

[scenic radish]

otherwise if it's mains powered it specifically has to be electrical cable, oftentimes in conduit

in the US it'd probably be ok if it's in an electrical box with a blank cover plate

but not helpful for u

[wet pilot]

oh yeah, it definitely needs to be in an accessible junction box here

[quartz ether]

NZ doesn't require conduit. The Shelly would have to go into a junction box of some kind (but plenty of room behind most plugs anyway) but its more it doesn't have the RCM tick thing that most nz items need but often other country ones are effective replacements

[scenic radish]

oh i see

some local codes here require conduit which is stupid, because romex is designed to go behind walls by itself...

of course, this is chicago and its suburbs we're talking about here, so i'm sure it's has something to do with some politician making money

[wet pilot]

or their history with disastrous fires

[scenic radish]

nahhhhhhhhhh lol

that was ONE TIME

[wet pilot]

lol

[scenic radish]

and we made it better after the fire

chicago 2.0, if you will

[wet pilot]

directly responsible for exterior doors opening outward and spinning doors requiring standard doors flanking them

[scenic radish]

or, in the case of home assistant, chicago 0.2

[wet pilot]

haha

at least you have the hawks (oh wait, they suck these days)

[scenic radish]

i don't want to talk about it

it's fine

[wet pilot]

is a caps fan living in NC

was not a happy post season for me here 😛

[scenic radish]

lmao

oof

[wet pilot]

at least the checkers won

[scenic radish]

there's that at least

[wet pilot]

they're local to me 🙂

cheap tickets and decent hockey

[scenic radish]

well there ya go

what else could you ask for

[clear ferry]

I should probably support some team in NY or NJ as I have a lot of family there 😛

[wet pilot]

you should go for seattle

they don't even have a name yet

[ocean mirage]

which sport are we talking

[wet pilot]

but have a 100% win record 😄

NHL

[ocean mirage]

ah

[boreal pewter]

So anyone using Kube?

[wet pilot]

k8s?

[boreal pewter]

K3s, K8s, Minikube.. what ever

It all results in kubectl 😄

[wet pilot]

i think a few sick bastards are but i don't know any directly

maybe #449717345808547842 for more

[boreal pewter]

Well that's rather related to HA itself tho

[wet pilot]

eh, true

[boreal pewter]

But thx 😛

[wet pilot]

i guess it depends on if you're talking kube directly or HA in kube

[boreal pewter]

Kube directly.. I still figure the workflow and was looking for some insight

[wet pilot]

at the day job i work on a contanerized platform and have taken a kube class. We didn't see any real reason to switch off of swarm though

[boreal pewter]

My company totally declined Swarm because it was completely unreliable and we use K8s for a customer and now slimmed that down to K3s for a another customer.

[wet pilot]

we have a need to deploy the product on a single system and have the ability to scale it out to 3x+

in that situation, we felt that the extra overhead required for kube wasn't worth it

there are a few features that would be "nice" but nothing that stood out as "need to have"

for our use-cases at least

if we were running a fully SaaS platform it would make more sense there

[clear ferry]

https://open.spotify.com/album/3wvclpO3LJmpSQGQ9gBa2a?si=L4Yt2RXwQdaGiA3Y_GgWKA

Sultans of swing is highly overrated, Tunnel of love is the real dire straits masterpiece, especially live

[wet pilot]

i like the frog leap studios cover

[clear ferry]

Woot

[ocean mirage]

I've only listened to their first album and Brothers in Arms

first one is pretty average, Brothers in Arms is gold

[clear ferry]

Aye, Knopfler solo is also very nice

The guy is a guitar autist

[ocean mirage]

I've never heard his solo stuff

I got a new pedal today though

[clear ferry]

[ocean mirage]

my pedalboard is a mess as I haven't repositioned things since my last purchase properly

just everywhere

but one sec

few pedals floating

new pedal is top left

[clear ferry]

All my pedals are on my workbench, I was supposed to make a custom pedalboard, but haven't gotten around to it yet

[ocean mirage]

I just made this from an ikea shelf

[clear ferry]

Ah Strymon, I love those

The big sky is heaven

[ocean mirage]

I'm just making noises like a dickhead with half my pedals on, its been a hwile

I had a Strymon Timeline but I sold it ages ago

[clear ferry]

I have the elelady too, great for animals album sound

[ocean mirage]

I don't know that I have learned anything from Animals

No Muff on the board atm

[clear ferry]

I have TC electronic flashback and reverb, can recommend those highly

[ocean mirage]

I had the flashback, I sold it when I got the timeline lol

but in a way I prefer a simpler pedal

[clear ferry]

The metal muff is also great

[ocean mirage]

so the flashback was good

[clear ferry]

I have the mini, want to replace it with the bigger one

[ocean mirage]

this is my muff clone

its for sale

[clear ferry]

Maybe I should build you a custom pedal

The put it on the Barbie

[ocean mirage]

haha

I have been halfway through making a modified fuzz face pedal for quite some time

[clear ferry]

I've built a few different ones

[ocean mirage]

got distracted and never though about it

[clear ferry]

😂

The joyo pedals are very good for their price point, ordered a few from wish actually

[ocean mirage]

I've not got any joyos but i have a bunch of chinese similar stuff

like the mooers you saw

the blue pedal is a caline pure sky (timmy clone)

the red pedal next to my tuner is a Biyang Baby Boom Compressor (Dynacomp)

[icy chasm]

welp, that's set it for tonight, I know what I'm doing... remembering to set up the automation for my hot water system. I've been manually controlling it like a numpty, but forgot to day

[clear ferry]

I was going to get around to make a loop board like David Gilmour has in his live show, like a split signal going to a almost infinite delay via a volume pedal, is very handy for playing by myself

[ocean mirage]

ah like the sound on sound stuff, nice

[clear ferry]

@icy chasm that is another thing Norwegians don't understand, we have the boiler on 24/7

[ocean mirage]

I imitate gilmour a lot when I started playing but nothing in a long time

[icy chasm]

a) I live in a place that never gets below like 10 degrees c b) I have solar 🙂

[ocean mirage]

never below 10, thats heaven

[clear ferry]

Aussies turn off their heaters right?

[icy chasm]

what's a heater

😄

[ocean mirage]

uhh yes

why would we not

my heater is set at 20

[icy chasm]

I've got reverse cycle aircon but that's only because it was only like $50 more for the heater version over the cool-only

[ocean mirage]

yeah thats a good buy for $50, just in case

where do you live if I can ask

[icy chasm]

mainly for house value TBH - I needed cooling for sleeping in the daytime

Brisbane

[ocean mirage]

Ah yeah, nice weather there

I think I've been twice

I'd consider moving if I could get a job, and if it wasn't for all the Queenslanders

[icy chasm]

lemme guess, you're from Sydney

[clear ferry]

[ocean mirage]

How fucking dare you

[icy chasm]

Well then, Melbourne it is

[ocean mirage]

Nah I am from somewhere easier to make fun of

keep trying

[icy chasm]

aw shit, it's either Canberra (heh, fed) or Deadalaide

[clear ferry]

I'm actually married to Australian girl

[ocean mirage]

The former, bingo

[clear ferry]

Or I was 25 years ago

When I was at a children's camp in New Zealand 😛

[ocean mirage]

poor girl

[icy chasm]

I don't mind Canberra, for a visit. Too dry

[ocean mirage]

it is quite dry, thats true

[icy chasm]

I get too dry here, when it's like 60% humidity all the time

[ocean mirage]

I will say its a very easy place to live though, barely any traffic, but shit all happens lol

but thats okay for me

oh yeah then canberra would kill you long term

[clear ferry]

Move to northern Norway

[ocean mirage]

haha

[clear ferry]

Snow 9 months a year

[ocean mirage]

Move to SE Asia, thats humid

I visited Cairns last year, I gotta say its one of my favourite places I have been to in the country

[icy chasm]

I was born there, haven't really been back

[clear ferry]

So humid that you get crotchrot by stepping out of the plane

[ocean mirage]

Just so chill and warm, roads were never busy and well kept, wifi everywhere lol

lots of attactions

no idea what its like for residents

We went in winter and swam in the lagoon on the esplanade and the locals heckled us cause it was apparently too cold

[icy chasm]

I'd say my opinion but I try not to disparage our natives too heavily in public

[boreal pewter]

Woah I created my first Kube-Pod from a docker compose and it starts up... I just have no idea what to do now

[velvet horizon]

@boreal pewter posted a message that is too long, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DyFJgN7PcT/

[low harness]

”Yay! They’re finally done waxing the office floor. Finally some peace and... <squeak> <squeak> <squeak> <squeak>” headdesk

[hushed basalt]

@clear ferry my Norwegian friend says that pretty much all their schools are state

Is that true

[orchid rose]

probably, it usually is the case in the Nordic countries

[clear ferry]

@hushed basalt yes, if a school is private it is probably posh and I know of like... 5 private oned

[hushed basalt]

Our system is pretty corrupt

Private schools get heaps of state money

Run into scenarios where private schools are buying slow motion underwater cameras for their swimming pool, while public schools can't afford pencils

Yay for cronyism

[clear ferry]

Mostly everything in the Scandinavian countries is state owned and funded

[hushed basalt]

We used to be like that

Until the 'conservatives' 'sold' everything off for 'surplus'

[hushed basalt]

Der sold 'er jerbs

[strange vapor]

I'm suspicious.... Upgraded to 0.99 and nothign has broken....

[valid halo]

slow motion underwater cameras

[young sigil]

Why would they want to track the Centre for Veterinary Education? 😜

(First google result, second was what you probably meant, Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures).

[boreal pewter]

I guess if someone doesn't know CVE the question is not pointed at him 😛

[strange vapor]

@hearty depot Have been placing with vuls

Seems to work quite well, and unlike some commercial products actually understands that RHEL and Centos backport fixes without changing version numbers.

https://vuls.io/

[hearty depot]

almost forgot you tom 😉
CVE-2019-16759
https://www.zdnet.com/article/anonymous-researcher-drops-vbulletin-zero-day-impacting-tens-of-thousands-of-sites/
That thing looks amazing - thanks ndonegan

[clear ferry]

@strange vapor Nice, I need to test it out !

[lyric garden]

Anyone use Vivint? You integrate with HA at all? I am thinking of switching to SimpleSafe as i see a actual component for that but i would have to change 8 door sensors, 6 motion detector and a couple glass break sensors.

[clever mortar]

#330944238910963714 would answer that one 😉

[lyric garden]

Yeah i though about posting it in there but didnt want to clog the support channel with general questions not directly needing actual support

[scenic radish]

just a warning with simplisafe...you can't use the simplisafe app at all unless you pay $25/month

[lyric garden]

Oh wow thanks for the warning

[scenic radish]

but the hardware looks nice and communication between the sensors and the base station is (finally) encrypted with the current version

it wasn't encrypted before the current gen...which seems like a dumb oversight

[lyric garden]

Oh yeah for sure. That would have been a concern for me. I havnt done a ton of research on simplisafe just saw it integrates better than Vivint as i am not aware of any Vivint integration

I also thought about trying to grab the door sensor as they are the standard 2gig 315mhz sensors

but i do like the external monitoring to call police if something happens

[scenic radish]

also to clarify, the $25/month gets you professional monitoring along with app access. $15/month for professional monitoring only

i went with a different system that's free to self-monitor using their app since i don't want professional monitoring

[lyric garden]

Yeah i dont care a lot but i travel for work and the professional monitoring makes me feel better for my wife and kid .

[scenic radish]

understandable

[lyric garden]

I pay $30 right now so the $25 is not that bad to me

Just the initial cost of switching all the hardware is hard to swallow.

[scenic radish]

in my case i figure if anyone did break in (which would be dumb because i'm in a condo with 11 other neighbors in close proximity), the alarm would scare them off before police would even be notified

yeah that definitely sucks

[lyric garden]

Yeah true. I live in the country on 15 acres so the closest house is not that close. I live in a great area though so not overly worried but piece of mind is nice.

[scenic radish]

yeah, i totally get it

we just have different use cases

[lyric garden]

Yep back in the day i was i am doing it all myself and DIY everything

I like the flexibility though where you can choose your path.

[scenic radish]

for sure

[lyric garden]

and integrate both DIY and commercial solutions

[scenic radish]

yeah it's great. i'm impressed by how much stuff i can integrate into home assistant

the best part is everything is locally controlled except for my security system

but once homekit drops for it, that will also be locally controlled

[lyric garden]

Yeah i love the local executions. I had SmartThings and hated how limited it was and that it would go down all the time

I tried openhab but found HA and never looked back

[scenic radish]

yup. huge learning curve, but totally worth it.

[lyric garden]

I am an software engineer so it wasnt too bad for me.

[scenic radish]

i'm not

the only programming language i know is BASIC lol

[lyric garden]

lol

[scenic radish]

but i got the hang of YAML and JSON pretty quickly. not that those are programming languages though

i've also got decent templating knowledge now too

[lyric garden]

right but once you understand the process most other languages become easier.

Lovelace makes HA pretty easy for the masses

[scenic radish]

i sort of see a similarity between python and yaml as far as syntax

both being spacing dependent at least

[lyric garden]

Yeah i was going to say that would be about it though. Python you have declarations and executions. Yaml is, well just yaml. Things like python parse yaml

[scenic radish]

yeah

i just mean it might make tackling python as my first programming language a bit easier

[lyric garden]

But yes most languages spaces are ignored as it is too loose.

or in yaml the matter a ton

[scenic radish]

yeah i can see the cons of being spacing dependent

but i can also type yaml faster than json

[lyric garden]

Python is a good language to learn for this iot space

[scenic radish]

so many damn quotes and braces in json

[lyric garden]

json i am partial to but i started as a javascript ui dev

I like the structure, lol

yaml looks like a mess to me

but with todays ide's just about any language becomes easier with code completion

[scenic radish]

i do find it interesting that home assistant uses yaml instead of json though

[lyric garden]

Yeah me too.

[scenic radish]

i guess they leaned toward the human readability side of yaml

at least, that's what the yaml specs claim the advantage is

subjective probably

evidenced by you saying yaml looks like a mess to you lol

[lyric garden]

yeah the text makes it easy to read except how do you read 6 spaces when you needed 8 or 4. Makes debugging harder i think

That is the hardest part about HA to me. I never know what needs to be nested and what doesnt. But that comes down to understanding what HA is looking for when it parses.

[scenic radish]

the configurator addon makes it easy to see spaces at least

yeah, it definitely takes some research beforehand and careful attention after

[lyric garden]

Yeah i suppose i should try that.

I use Atom or Sublime to modify my files manually.

I use the automation in lovelace to add the entry then open it manually to add actions and conditions

[scenic radish]

can't recommend the configurator addon enough

i've never used the automations ui, i've only ever written them entirely in yaml

helped me understand the syntax a lot

[clever mortar]

99% of getting spacing right is to use the examples in the docs as a guide

[scenic radish]

oh no tinkerer found us

[clever mortar]

1% is running the config check

It's ok, I'm all out of gum 😛

[scenic radish]

i came here to edit yaml and chew gum... and i'm all out of gum

[lyric garden]

Yeah i have copy and paste a lot of examples

but it never fails i always want to do more or something slightly different

that is when i run into issues. Easily resolved, just check the config and make changes until it works

[scenic radish]

only thing i don't like about the examples is how they nest lists. most nest like this:

trigger:
  - platform: state

but i prefer this:

trigger:
- platform: state

maybe i'm just an animal

i understand why they're nested like the first example though

[unreal orbit]

jk, my lovelace config is riddled with inconsistency in that regard

[clever mortar]

I think the second is the more technically correct version

[scenic radish]

the fact that both work has got to be confusing for beginners lol

[clever mortar]

And yes, mine are far from consistent too

[scenic radish]

i can see how both are correct though

[unreal orbit]

I think you could make an argument for either. Depends on where you personally define the "beginning" of the block. At the - or at the start of the key

[scenic radish]

exactly

screw it, i'm just gonna start using one space for everything

since the spaces don't matter as long as you're consistent

fite me

[unreal orbit]

Technically correct, but it will make me like you less 😉

[scenic radish]

or maybe 8 spaces for everything

i will unleash my anarchy on the world

[unreal orbit]

Why stop at 8? 20 spaces is what real men use

[scenic radish]

you may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like

i should post some examples using one space to see if anyone tells me the spacing is wrong lol

post a working automation using one space "guys i can't get this to work"

jk obvi

[hearty depot]

@clever mortar are you Jeremy from marketing?

[clever mortar]

That may be one of my meat puppets, yes

[scenic radish]

well now i'm confused

[hearty depot]

https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/36/

[clever mortar]

No testing of anything ever goes as planned, unless you've just finished the thing you're testing, and not always even then...

More seriously, I live nowhere near Dallas

[hearty depot]

😉 that's what I would say too

[scenic radish]

we got him, boys

[clear ferry]

@unreal orbit 20 spaces? Gotta up those numbers, those are rookie numbers, 20 TABS

[lyric garden]

oh man now the tabs vs spaces war.

[clear ferry]

Brb ctrl+alt+sysrq

[unkempt umbra]

oh man that reminds me of the old keyboard that had meta hyper and ultra keys, in addition to ctrl and shift, and alt

from a lisp machine.

was great for running emacs

[languid forge]

hi, is there a good video out there that gets me up and running a mqtt server?

[clear ferry]

I still have nightmares about the tiki100 keyboard that had f1-f32 keys

[clever mortar]

Video... for an MQTT server 🤔

sudo apt install mosquitto

[clear ferry]

@languid forge install mosquito server, configure user, connect devices and ha

[clever mortar]

😛

[languid forge]

sure but i cant connect my mqtt client to it. dont know why

[clever mortar]

Well, then, what MQTT server

[light trout]

identify issue, fix issue, use it

[clever mortar]

Also, likely off topic here 😉

[languid forge]

mosqitto

[clever mortar]

And... how

[light trout]

carefully

[clever mortar]

👍

Are you using a #330990055533576204 add-on, a manual install with apt, or yum or 🔨

[light trout]

sudo hammer install mosquitto? 🤔

[clever mortar]

I now have a new alias to set up

[languid forge]

by installing hass.io addon

[clever mortar]

Then #330990055533576204

[light trout]

#330990055533576204 then 😉

🤷

[clever mortar]

And please read the channel topics

[brisk glen]

gave in, going to buy a synology nas

the solution is just too dam nice and easy

[lyric garden]

Do you have plex?

[brisk glen]

I do

[lyric garden]

Yeah the new NAS have hardware transcoding

[brisk glen]

was not looking at it for plex but that is nice

[lyric garden]

I dont personally use one as i have a custom built server to host plex, HA, node.js, nginx, apache, etc.

How much storage you looking to have?

[brisk glen]

my main docker server is off a clients rack

4 TB

[lyric garden]

Nice

Oh 4tb is tiny. Yeah the synology should do you fine

I just ordered another 20TB for my server

[brisk glen]

its just for personal use

[lyric garden]

So is mine, lol

[brisk glen]

well. once my wife is a doctor

then its fun time

[lyric garden]

yep $$$$

Storage is not cheap. At least in perspective. It is much cheaper per TB now days but still not "cheap"

[hearty depot]

someone care to look over my ssh_config - not shure if I forgot something

[hearty depot]

there is somebody freezing
20:05:31 up 2 days, 13 min, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05

[unkempt umbra]

💤

[unreal orbit]

Oh wow, Amazon is coming out with Echo glasses and an Echo ring...

And wireless earbuds, but I think I've watched too much Doctor Who to ever trust those

[strange vapor]

@unreal orbit Hopefully we're in the wrong dimension for the Cybermen.

I do think it was mentioned that they eventually arise in every dimension though :/

[hushed basalt]

About to buy a new TV

Anyone have any sick picks in the 65 inch range

I'm thinking Samsung Q60 qled

[orchid rose]

all the oleds are basically the same afaik (same panel)

[wet pilot]

nah, lg and sony make different panels

OLED != QLED

[orchid rose]

are you sure about that phnx? At least a while ago even the Sony ones were just LG panels

[wet pilot]

yeah, they make their own now

[orchid rose]

interesting, guess I'll have to read about those when I have some time later. Competition never hurts

[wet pilot]

dell/alienware definitely use LG panels though

[scenic radish]

i know the oled panels that lg made for some phones were particularly bad

i had a pixel xl 2 for a while but returned it because the screen had a grainy appearance, almost like it was paper... the samsung panel used in the OG pixel xl is much better

"a characteristic of the display" according to google

[wet pilot]

those were AMOLED though which are different

[ocean mirage]

QLEDs looked nice in store telco but like, you will see that lol

[wet pilot]

they're considered the benchmark for OLED TVs though

[ocean mirage]

Not sure I'd be ready to buy OLED personally, pretty expensive and theres the whole burn in thing

[wet pilot]

yeah, that's my worry

those black levels though

[hushed basalt]

I quite like the screen in my S10

So whatever that technology is, is quite nice

[wet pilot]

AMOLED 🙂

samsung has pretty much mastered it

[hushed basalt]

We have a Sony OLED broadcast monitor at work

It was like $5000 for 17" in 2013 or so

But it's quite nice

[wet pilot]

the black levels are impossible to beat by any backlit panels

[ocean mirage]

for sure, but you can still get decent results with backlit stuff

like QLED does okay I think

I started obsessing over all this stuff when I first started looking, but I realised I can spend less than I spent when I bought my current TV 8 years ago and do much, much better anyway

[hushed basalt]

Ew 2.4ghz only..what is this 2013

I don't really intend to use any streaming to the tv. But still.

[ocean mirage]

yeah its odd

[hushed basalt]

My current TV is from 2006

[ocean mirage]

I don't plan to use the TV for streaming anyway (got an ATV) whats the max speed on 2.4GHz, it'd choke on 4k right?

[hushed basalt]

Local congestion is the big issue

Medium density housing, only three effective 2.4ghz channels, wouldn't be pretty

I use my ATV4K for everything though

[ocean mirage]

yeah

[hushed basalt]

And when I have a house I'll be hard wiring anyway

[ocean mirage]

Did you do what I did - bought a ATV4K for when you get around to getting a 4K tv?

Yeah I am probably gonna run ethernet this weekend to my TV unit

[hushed basalt]

Yeah exactly

I knew a new tv was only a few years away at most

And the $50 difference was neglible

And a new tv would certainly be 4k

[ocean mirage]

yeah thats how I felt. I'd like a new TV within 6 months but there are a lot of costs that come up that keep me putting it off

house shit

and then you think you are gonna save decently one pay and turns out its rego time

[hushed basalt]

Yep lol

[wet pilot]

i want to upgrade my living room tv and demote the existing one to the master bedroom

we moved house and the tv is too small for the space

its 55" but too far away

[ocean mirage]

yeah mine is 55" and I would like to go up a little, but the next size is 65"

so I'd probably have to wall mount it, which is fine

[wet pilot]

yeah, i'm already overdue for doing that

[ocean mirage]

probably just give the old one to a family member

[wet pilot]

gonna wall mount the current one in the mbr and then mount the new large one in the living room

[ocean mirage]

ah nice

I probably have no use for a bedroom tv

[clear ferry]

Yeah I did that, demoted the 50 plasma to the second living room and put a 65 on the wall

Still room for a 85 there though, I checked

[ocean mirage]

hehe

[clear ferry]

We have a 43 in the bedroom, which is enough because it is tiny

[ocean mirage]

I bought this 55 inch when I was young and still lived with my mum, my room was barely big enough to fit a queen bed in and I had the 55 in there

it was...dominating

[clear ferry]

When you were young you say, two years ago? 😂

[ocean mirage]

Mate I was quarter century two years ago, thats old AF

[clear ferry]

I remember I bought a 23 inch wide screen crt when I lived in my parents , in.. 2000, it was huuuge

[ocean mirage]

haha

23 inch wide, 30 deep?

[clear ferry]

Nah, it was a 28 I'm sure of it now, and yes atleast as deep as wide 😂

[wet pilot]

haha and heavy as hell

[clear ferry]

Brought it along to LAN parties, with my 3x23 CRT desktop setup

[wet pilot]

rofl

who said that nerds were weak!?

[clear ferry]

I have picture of that here hang on

They were 42 kgs each

[ocean mirage]

haha

[clear ferry]

You can see the desk buckle

[ocean mirage]

thats why you are such a strong man today

[clear ferry]

I got those in 2004 I think, I still had the 28 inch TV at the time

Replaced it with a projector that was 1mx1m and did 800x600 in 2005

I too do this sometimes

https://ifanboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/adprintlo_lg.jpg

[hushed basalt]

I can't put anything on the wall in a rental :(

But I got the ikea tv cabinet with an inbuilt tv mount

Doesn't fit on my old tv though

[low harness]

Sure you can. That's what plaster is for.

[hushed basalt]

I will anchor the tv cabinet to the wall though. I'll deal with the fallout later I just don't want the tv to topple on my little one

Yeah but they can look at the plaster and go "no we are going to repaint the whole room to match"

Tenancy rights are non existant in AU

[wet pilot]

fun fact, thy almost always re-paint after every tenant

[hushed basalt]

Ha ha ha ha ha

Not in any house I've ever been in

Just like they change the locks aye haha

[low harness]

Never seen that happen either

[wet pilot]

ah, houses are different. apartment complexes do it

[hushed basalt]

Leases are typically 12 months here

I'd say less than 0.1% of leases are longer than 12-13 months

[wet pilot]

its about the same here

[ocean mirage]

are you gonna be able to buy any time soon telco?

[hushed basalt]

Where are you

[wet pilot]

every apartment i've rented has been re-painted before i've moved in

[hushed basalt]

Nah nothing good in our price range

[wet pilot]

US

[ocean mirage]

dang

[hushed basalt]

Don't want to buy a house and outgrow it when the second kid comes

[ocean mirage]

yeah for sure, that'd be a pain

[hushed basalt]

Or buy far away from work and spent 3 hours a day commuting

[ocean mirage]

yeah that'd be the worst

[hushed basalt]

Just keep renting for a bit

Plus I want to take time off work to study

[wet pilot]

WFH FTW

[hushed basalt]

Not making any progress study wise

[ocean mirage]

fair enough

what do you study

[hushed basalt]

Yeah I'd love to work from home

Self learning software development

[ocean mirage]

oh nice

I can work from home a bit, but I also live 15 minutes from work

[hushed basalt]

I haven't even touched my homelab in weeks. So busy

[ocean mirage]

dang

[hushed basalt]

But yeah we really need like $160k cash to get what we want

[wet pilot]

my closest office is 3h away. Suffice it to say that i've never been there

[hushed basalt]

20% plus stamp duty plus expenses plus safety net

What do you do phnx

[ocean mirage]

yep, it takes a bit for sure

[clear ferry]

My office is roughly 45 minutes away, I'm there once or twice a month, for signing of documents mostly and nagging my bosses

the rest is work from home or at customer sites, in varying degrees

https://open.spotify.com/track/5gZNEXh6irKNlfS96fUYun?si=E7lUraNnRq66R3u2aJoKhg

[clear ferry]

is it some kind of WW holiday ? 🤔 it's quiet like death in here 🤔

[hearty depot]

work?

but yea

I'm quite unhappy with GPFS atm 😓

[clear ferry]

IBM GPFS ? 🤔

[orchid rose]

@wet pilot, I checked a review and it seems like even the Sony 2019 Oleds are still made by LG

[velvet horizon]

phnx is away for 3h 50m 2s with a message :point_right: sudo systemctl suspend

[orchid rose]

For a 55" I wouldn't think of anything but an oled, but the 65" models are pretty expensive still. My brother has one of those and it is gorgeous to look at. Still a bit on a small side for me though

[hushed basalt]

I'd love to work from home

I hate commuting and working in an office haha

In some ways I'd like to freelance, but that's a completely different style to working remotely

[clear ferry]

office life is zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[ocean mirage]

I do like being able to mix it up

Working at the office with colleagues directly can be good for me

[clear ferry]

usually it just ends up with eating cookies and not getting any work done

[ocean mirage]

Yeah exactly

Home is the same but I have to pay for the cookies

[clear ferry]

https://open.spotify.com/track/6E3D7kGkdwOGzGvAHF9lI0?si=0DgvIoZpQL-pONdN_zoRsA

[ocean mirage]

Slow Burning in a Dancing Room

[bronze rock]

So... if i change out my USB hubs, do i need to reboot to get the pi to recognize the new one or just restart the docker container? 🤔 Experimentation time!

[clear ferry]

🤔

[bronze rock]

i dont think it should change the by serial id, but... openzwave isn't able to init the zwave controller im trying to get to =/

OS can see it though... rebooting sorted it 😄

[wet pilot]

@orchid rose huh, ok

[bronze rock]

is it odd that /dev/serial/by-id doesn't exist on my system right now? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cRVzS7xbSf/ Couldn't open device lsusb can see the stick, but can't open it. Any ideas as to why?

[unkempt umbra]

Yo phnx, got ffmpeg video to work.

[scenic radish]

discord chatter is light today

[unkempt umbra]

yes.

[boreal pewter]

Just dont sudo 😄 😄 😄

You could find a log output of it, parse it to Fail2Ban and put a 10 hours ban on it. That will just protect you from breaking things

[hearty depot]

like forever

[boreal pewter]

You don't need to admin if you can't admin

[hearty depot]

root:x:0:0:root:/root:/sbin/nologin

[boreal pewter]

You wrote /bin/bash wrong

[hearty depot]

uh

root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/rm -r /

time to spin up an vm and check if this would work 🤣

[wicked raptor]

dont know if you now it already but there is a typing mistake https://www.home-assistant.io/getting-started/configuration/ line 15. just wanted to let you know 😄

[boreal pewter]

Wrong channel

And you can fix that yourself

[wicked raptor]

can i?

[hearty depot]

there is a edit button
you could be so cind and make use of it

[boreal pewter]

Ofc...

CTRL +F and it looks like it is the last and not the first find

[wicked raptor]

fixed it

[hushed basalt]

Whelp

My reverse proxy is down

Which means nothing works haha 😢

[hushed basalt]

Yay fixed it

Now I can turn lights on, haha

[ocean mirage]

you need the reverse proxy to be up even when you are on your home network?

[hushed basalt]

Yeah everything goes through the rp

Homeassistant.domain.tld

[ocean mirage]

ah okay

I can just direct IP at home, I have no idea how people normally set it up though

[hushed basalt]

I need fully qualified domain names to use https, plus I can use the same address no matter where I am in the world

Including home

Fun thing about smart lights

Almost all of them turn on when power is restored

Fantastic for 2am restoratiobs

[ocean mirage]

haha

[hushed basalt]

I turned off the lights at the switch before that happened

But it's a trap for young players

[ocean mirage]

It makes sense really, but yeah I can imagine getting caught out

I just want a decent smart switch option here

[hushed basalt]

I'd probably diy myself

Put in smart bulbs and put your own low voltage hardwired switches in next to the real ones

Run them back to a rpi or esp in each room or cluster of rooms

Power those of PoE

No electrician required

[ocean mirage]

thats not a bad idea, but I dont actually have much of a problem with using lights dumb, so if I switch I want it to be 0 compromise, replacement switches that work with any light

[hushed basalt]

Yeah you need an electrician

[ocean mirage]

like, legally

[hushed basalt]

I think Nue Zigbee switches might be your only viable option

$50~ a switch plus install

Plus you need neutral wire

[ocean mirage]

neutral wires have been standard for a while right

I can always check

[hushed basalt]

Nah

[tiny parcel]

Just realized theirs a Obihai integration in 0.99

[hushed basalt]

It's up to the builder at the time really

[ocean mirage]

but I hate those Nue switches, I want a physical switch

[hushed basalt]

It's cheaper to not put it in and not needed for standard switches

[ocean mirage]

ah okay

[hushed basalt]

Hence why the diy option can be very cheap in comparision

Plus you can use real switches if you want

Otherwise you need some sort of switching box in the ceiling

And the electrician to redo the wiring etc

[ocean mirage]

I might just wait and see what comes out

I'm in no rush

got other things to do first

[hushed basalt]

Otherwise you need something like a Shelly that's certified for Aus

But you'll probably still need neutral wire and enough space behind the switch

[odd mason]

if anyone is looking for great lights for a garage or workspace i highly recommend these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PG3RLH7

just installed them and they're great...super easy to install and bright af

i might buy 4 more and hang up some more

[hushed basalt]

Thanks for the tip

Shame they're not 240v

[thorny swallow]

The talk on hass I gave at least months' Sydney Infracoders is finally online:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjZE0I5_LDY&t=2s

[orchid rose]

cool, will definitely check that out later

[hushed basalt]

Ditto

[wary jolt]

I almost lost one of my ESPHome yaml files today because I was kind of setting up the device in a hurry.

[wet pilot]

install git, use git

[wary jolt]

I accidentally overwrote the file and then cursed myself for not having made a copy of it before. I am quite happy I could recovered it... But damn I need to remind myself to always run a back up when I am working on these things.

I have git installed but I wasn't using it for this particular set of files... I was just being dumb, I guess.

[hushed basalt]

Git git git git git git git

[clear ferry]

Git gud

[wary jolt]

Gotto let that git sink in...

I used grep to recover the text, but I am not working without using git anymore... I promise!

[clear ferry]

That is an awkward title @strange vapor

https://twitter.com/wareable/status/1176947668947542020?s=09

Wareable (@wareable)

Amazon Echo Frames glasses lets Alexa sit on your face

https://t.co/O7gsCo3EVd

Retweets

474

Likes

1271

Twitter

[hushed basalt]

Does she tell you that she loves you

[ocean mirage]

No

Its breathtaking, shes just like a real woman

[clear ferry]

I've had a guy behind me now for 10 minutes with his indicator light on, he just turned it off when I actually should have used it to indicate leaving the highway

[ocean mirage]

Are you currently driving

[clear ferry]

Stuff like that means you have so little control over your own situation that you shouldn't be driving, and they should take your licence away

I just stopped to fill gas 😛

[strange vapor]

@clear ferry I've seen scrolling bill board style things for sale on the likes of Ali Express and friends where you can pre-program a small selection of messages and use a remote control to display message in the rear window 🙂

[clear ferry]

I have though about the same

But I would only write CUNT there anyway 🤷

Which means my wife would not approve 😂

[hushed basalt]

I was in a group chat once where a woman would send video responses to the group while driving :/

@strange vapor probably illegal in Australia with our nanny state laws

You can be fined for 2km/h over

[strange vapor]

@hushed basalt Does the Aussie Nanny State still want to break TLS?

[hushed basalt]

Lol

We're a joke

Can't let terorrists and pedophiles take away our freedoms

So let's take away all our freedoms

The conservatives play the terrorists card for everything

[tough igloo]

And the ‘opposition’ party wave the legislation through!

[clear ferry]

@tough igloo wife done with translation yet? 😂

[tough igloo]

We’re currently in the process of moving house so I’ve given her some time off

[clear ferry]

What are you like, husband of the year? 😂 🎉 ❤

[hearty depot]

someone had a play with OpenStack?

[hushed basalt]

What did you have in mind @hearty depot

[hearty depot]

Pfsense and an Debian VMfor starters

There is of cause the question if this even work
Worth, not a chance. But open stack is a big thing in the environment I work with.

So I try to get some hands on experience while not fucking with production 🤣

@hushed basalt

[clear ferry]

Stinky drinky, tispy, unlawful, poop

All these great children's characters

[pure vine]

I love that the podcast has chapters

[clear ferry]

I did not know that

But I use podcast addict

[strange vapor]

@clear ferry Podcast Addict supports chapters.

Only time I notice is when I'm in the car and the chapter name comes up in the media system while Podcast Addict is playing.

[hushed basalt]

@hearty depot I would focus on skills that are rare and valuable

That's how you get paid big bucks

So if you think those skills are rare and valuable and on an upward trend I would focus on that

Don't follow your passion. Find passion in being great at what you do

Craftsman mindset

[scenic radish]

dress for the job you want

or something

[hushed basalt]

Following your passion is dangerous bad advice

Even people like Steve Jobs who say stuff like follow your passion, are hypocrites

[clear ferry]

I've followed my passions all along 🤷

Problem is I'm passionate about all technology

[hushed basalt]

But you have rare and valuable skills

;)

Which gives you autonomy and $$$

[clear ferry]

Yes, I'm a proper douche 😛

[hushed basalt]

Like, if you thought you would be passionate about philosophy

[clear ferry]

To YAML or not to YAML that is the question

If I YAML then I am

YAML is dead

[unkempt umbra]

I yaml what I yaml.

• popeye

[clear ferry]

Speaking of philosophy

And my love of music

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darkside_(radio_play)?wprov=sfla1

[hearty depot]

You got me wrong there - with not worth I mean it's just easier to spin up esxi and run the machines from there ;)
For now I an not even Shure if OpenStack is capable to contribute to my home network and if I can run things on it @hushed basalt

[late gate]

Should I use the time to install ubuntu and dual boot or go on struggle getting debugging on the windows sub linux system-thingy working? I let you guys decide :p (no what linux dist is the best debate please) :p

[scenic radish]

DEBIAN FTW

whoops sorry

[late gate]

haha, I guess I should see that coming :p

lol life change; when your 14 the new folder/new folder(1)/newfolder(2)/newfolder(3) and so on was hiding porn, now its lazy backup of development files :p

[strange vapor]

Just install FreeDOS, get a copy of Doom or Monkey Island, and have some fun!

[hearty depot]

Manjaro for gaming

[clear ferry]

Dual boot, what is this? 1999?

Just virtualize whatever you need

[hearty depot]

meeehh.. when you want to use an GPU you have to friggle around with an extra GPU 😵

aaah I hate my internet at home 40 minutes for a centos download
2 minutes left 🤞

[scenic radish]

you guys might get a kick out of this... someone posted this to reddit yesterday: https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/d99k00/migrated_from_pi_to_venv_is_boy_are_things/

doesn't mention what hardware he switched to, so i'm assuming it's still the same hardware...which would net no performance difference

[tough vault]

thermostats with Z-wave PLUS radio modules for under $20 on ebay - https://ebay.us/YMEoO7

No idea if it's junk, but for $20 it seemed like a good chance to take

[clever mortar]

Might want to let #zwave-archived know

[tough vault]

Indeed - Wanted to save that channel for hardware help, but I guess it's not a bad idea

[scenic radish]

tell them

now

interesting find btw

[clever mortar]

For those in the right region anyway 😛

[clear ferry]

Zwave... More like zzzzzzzwave 🐶

[scenic radish]

so apparently in order to change your ecobee password, you have to log into the portal and request a password reset link, which is weird. regardless, the link they sent me started with "localhost" instead of "ecobee.com" which is sort of funny

believe it or not, it didn't work

until i changed it to ecobee.com of course

[clever mortar]

🤦

[scenic radish]

how do you even make that mistake lmao

[undone aspen]

Curious. Anyone here have or have had a Honeywell Lyric T5 and/or ecobee lite 3?

[unkempt umbra]

i have the ecobee3 lite

[undone aspen]

I have a T5 now but i think it’s going out.

Wifi issues and failed to turn on the compressor

[scenic radish]

I also have the localhost 3 lite

[unkempt umbra]

installed 3 weeks ago.

[scenic radish]

We'll I've had mine for over a year now

So there. Take that.

[undone aspen]

The Lite is good got you?

Good

[scenic radish]

Yeah it's been good

[unkempt umbra]

yep

[scenic radish]

Cloud API is...flaky. But I have mine connected to home assistant via HomeKit Controller so it's locally controlled

Not all the functionality is present when connected that way though. No access to comfort settings, home/away mode

[undone aspen]

Via home kit directly from hass?

[scenic radish]

But my tstat schedule lives in home assistant so I don't care about that

Look up HomeKit Controller

It allows home assistant to be the host for HomeKit devices instead of an Apple TV or other device

Pretty cool

[undone aspen]

Oh?

Interesting

[undone aspen]

Hmm and the ecobee sports the dual band WiFi.. dangle

Dangit lol

[scenic radish]

I mean...not super important for something like a thermostat that isn't transmitting/receiving much data

2.4 would be better for range anyway

[undone aspen]

Well, considering that, looking at my UniFI controller, and I have 11 devices on one AP, and the utilization goes from 24%-46% constantly, and that's the one that my Thermostat connects to since it's right there in the same hallway.. That can make a difference.

Something I've been having an issue with is my Thermostat disconnecting from WiFi, lately, and so I'm going to be monitoring it more directly and see if that issue continues.

The other issue I had was when I unplugged it from the wall and plugged it back in, let it power back up, and try to turn on the A/C, it took over 30 minutes to actually turn on the outside air compressor unit itself.

And I'm not sure if that's the thermostat issue, or the compressor issue.... Finally it worked when I changed the thermostat all the way up to 90 for 20 seconds, and dialled it back down to 70 to try to kick it on, and it FINALLY turned on the compressor.

Trying to identify if it's my compressor, Thermostat, or what, because the thermostat was able to turn on the air for circulation mode.

I might need an A/C guy to come out again, and I hate those guys.

At the same time, when the T5 lost WiFi, as did the temperature in the house start to climb up from 74 to 77, and when I unplugged it and plugged it back in, the thermostat quickly climbed up to 80 before I finally got it to kick things back up.

[scenic radish]

remove the tstat from the wall, disconnect the wires from it, and short R and Y together. if your AC turns on without any issues when you do that, you'd know it's probably the thermostat

short R, G, and Y together if the furnace/air handler doesn't turn the fan on automatically when the AC turns on

[undone aspen]

R and Y, okay. I can try that when it's cooled off better.

Possibly when my roommate's back here, too, so someone can be out by the compressor side as well while I do that.

[scenic radish]

also to clarify on the second point, do you know if the thermostat was controlling the fan when AC turns on, or is your air handler?

modern furnaces/air handlers generally turn the blower on when Y is energized (AC turns on), but some might be controlled by the tstat

[undone aspen]

Hmmm, it's the air handler seperately I believe.

Oh, wait the fan ON the A/C unit outside?

[scenic radish]

the blower inside

[undone aspen]

That's on the A/C, the air handler has its own.

Mine's very very old. 🙂

Like, I can turn off the A/C entirely and still turn on the fan seperately.

[scenic radish]

sorry, i think i'm explaining this poorly

[undone aspen]

That, and I do not entirely understand an A/C system. 🙂

[scenic radish]

most furnaces will turn the blower on by themselves when the AC turns on

[undone aspen]

Hmmm... I have a heat pump. for heat, which never gets used. 🙂

[scenic radish]

some might not. either way, if you short R and Y together and the blower doesn't turn on, add G to the mix

[undone aspen]

Gotcha.

[scenic radish]

then substitute furnace for air handler

i just use them interchangeably

sorry for the confusion

[undone aspen]

Yeah. Here in Florida we don't have much for heaters. hehe

R, Y, and possibly G, is what I needed to know. 🙂

I hear the relay switches inside the T5, so I know it's just passing power through to "turn things on", since the T5 doesn't have ultra quiet relay switches.

But, what it was doing specifically I wasn't really sure. 🙂

And avoid the C line.

And 5 minute delays between tests.

[scenic radish]

yeah, keep C away from R

otherwise you'll likely blow the fuse on the air handler control panel

[undone aspen]

Yep. 🙂

Looking at youtube videos on this to thoroughly understand.

[clear ferry]

You muricans and your strange furnace and vent systems

They are only trouble and it is where the killer gets into the house!

[icy chasm]

I'd argue the real issue is probably the high number of killers rather than the way they keep their houses warm. 😄

[hushed basalt]

What do you all do for remote ssh access to your home networi

[clear ferry]

@hushed basalt I have a server directly exposed with key exchange on an obscure port with blacklisting

But usually I do VPN, the SSH one is more for backup

Nice, they are expecting 30cm of snow in several areas of the country this weekend😂

I should give this a run
https://iot-inspector.princeton.edu/

[hearty depot]

malware to fight malware?
cant say ofc - but just watched BlackMirror S3E3 😛

[icy chasm]

From IPv6 clients I can SSH direct to the machines.
For everything else I use openvpn on a docker container that lets me VPN in, or apache guacamole if all I have is HTTPS

[clear ferry]

I actually hadn't heard about that before

I need to check it out

[icy chasm]

@clear ferry guac? it's great, runs from a small docker instance or vm, really flexible - add a second factor of auth if you're going to put it on the internet though

[clear ferry]

Aye, it sounds sweet as Https is usually my only option out

Since for some reason many networks block openvpns default port

[hearty depot]

Uuh https://mobile.twitter.com/axi0mX/status/1177542201670168576

I could get an iPhone again

[hearty depot]

are thre 'open printers' ?
my Epson Printer just refuses to do his job because of the blue cardridge 🙈

[clear ferry]

I've had my last printer for 6 years so far which is a new record I think

HP Envy 4520

[hearty depot]

7 - now dead because it doesnt reccognise the 3rd party ink

epson wf-3520

[clear ferry]

I have never had an Epson actually

Usually had canon or hp or Lexmark throughout the years

[hearty depot]

3rd party ink for the HP?

[clear ferry]

Tried both third party and original, price difference was so negligible I just stuck with original

[hearty depot]

ah.. the only minus so far
doesnt have single cardriges
stupid to throw out coulurs when one is empty

[clear ferry]

Usually the colours deplete equally in my experience

[hearty depot]

says the software 😉

[midnight adder]

just got these in the mail

[hearty depot]

uuh neat - how much are they atm?

[midnight adder]

these were $15 each

the non-rgb ones are $13

they're great because yeelight provides direct LAN access

[brisk helm]

So, anyone knows whether next version is gonna be 1.0 or 0.100.0 ? 😄

[midnight adder]

no hub required, all wifi

and none of that tuya crap

[hearty depot]

got 2 not RGB's laying around uninstalled
remember that you dont want to let them call home - otherwise some chinees got LAN access 😉

hahaha - i need an thicker thinfoil heat

[midnight adder]

eh they already have my fingerprint and multiple copies of my passports

if anything this will build up social credit!

go me!

[brisk helm]

@midnight adder Ah yeah, yeelights are great 🙂 As long as your have good enough router and wifi to handle many IoT devices, and yeah, pihole can take care of blocking their calling home, VLAN makes sure they cant do that at all 🙂 I should actually make an IoT SSID on my router I guess, been too lazy so far

[clear ferry]

@midnight adder my only issue with the yeelight is they are bulky

Have two of them, they work fine, but the design is very big

[midnight adder]

I'll admit to that, they are hefty

makes for great build quality though

@brisk helm I haven't got vlan working (yet) but I have a pihole

my ubiquiti AP takes care of the wifi

which it does really well seeing how I can receive from a block away if I want to

now I can finally get rid of the crappy tuya powerplugs around the house

[brisk helm]

They are bulky but not much more bulky than Hues

[clear ferry]

Only lights I haven't smartified yet are flourecent, those will get Shelly's

[wet pilot]

are they tube or CFL? if they're tube i think they make LED replacements

or just replace the fixture with an LED replacement

[clear ferry]

I replaced all 12 fixtures last year, they support LEDs but I bought regular ones for now as it was 24 tubes

Just need to add the Shelly to make them smart

[wet pilot]

gotcha

[clear ferry]

Because I usually forget to turn them off, which is a pita since they generate a lot of heat 😛

[wet pilot]

lol

[worn jasper]

So annoying. Good storm went through last night and knocked out the power for a few hours. Back on but internet isn't still :(. So I'm having to hand toggle stuff ugh

[clear ferry]

But... You don't you have local control?

[clear ferry]

Is this you @hearty depot ? https://v.redd.it/dvuy6obldin31

[clever mortar]

🤣

[clear ferry]

I need to make something creepy iot stuff for my porch this Halloween

[light trout]

Place a echo dot, and a GH mini there

[worn jasper]

I can't get the panel to open locally for whatever reason. Even by using IP

[wet pilot]

some motion sensors to trigger one of those smart speakers to play something

[midnight adder]

alright, only got a single tuya device left on the network

the crappier french smart plug that somehow is supported by hass

[hearty depot]

@clear ferry almost - only the smoke from the first second thou

[midnight adder]

anyone here have experience with tradfri lights and the xiaomi gateway

I just noticed ikea lamps in the mijia app's "add device" list

[hushed basalt]

@clear ferry i ended up setting up a rpi

For my ssh access, I set up a fresh install of raspbian, changed username and created a good password, deleted the pi user, added my public key and disabled password login

Then changed the default ssh port and forwarded that in my router

I need to set up fail2ban though

[neon swan]

I'm running Hassio on a Ubuntu machine, and I cannot recall how to find my install location. I want to make a modification of one of the py files to shorten the reset time on a motion sensor, but can't locate the file

I'm feeling rather n00bish asking this.

[wet pilot]

probably not going to be able to do that in #330990055533576204 <- there for more

[clear ferry]

https://open.spotify.com/album/5H6GJkjV9KsnCn4g0nWzSF?si=kJJ0AnEFTJGLeJXY7GSqHg

[orchid rose]

my router hates nodemcus... Most of the time the biggest problem with diy stuff is to get these little things to connect to my network 😄

once they connect once, they usually work fine, but the first connection is always an issue for some reason

[clear ferry]

Never had an issue with that

Heck I haven't had connection issues with wireless stuff since... 2005

I remember I had a flaky 3com wireless router at the time

[orchid rose]

I blame Netgear

[clear ferry]

Netgear

That is just asking for trouble

I haven't touched one since 2006ish 🤢

[orchid rose]

their UI is probably from 2006

[clear ferry]

😂

[orchid rose]

set up a wifi hotspot with my phone and no issues whatsoever to connect...

[earnest cedar]

Buy some ubiquity gear. Best thing ive done lately

[pure vine]

https://twitter.com/cybergibbons/status/1178249510482518016?s=19

Ask Cybergibbons! (@cybergibbons)

Has anyone looked at Doorbird?

Twitter

[icy chasm]

@orchid rose it's totally the nodeMCU's, just send them to me, I'll put them out of their misery >.>

[orchid rose]

this is just... I enabled guest network on the same router and it instantly connected just fine

[icy chasm]

odd

[pure vine]

What router is it exactly @orchid rose

[orchid rose]

Netgear R7800

[pure vine]

Hmm the driver for them is ok