haha yea man...gigabit is awesome
#the-water-cooler
odd mason
rapid musk
Well I’m off to shop for a server on fleabay. Wish me luck! 😬
ocean mirage
Yeah my mum uses an Apple TV, same as me, she does alright
Only problem is my upload is only about 30mbps so I can't really have many users
but netflix + plex for us too, although I could drop netflix and store everything on my server its good to just pick random things on
rapid musk
What CPU’s does your dell have @odd mason ?
rapid musk
Nice. Thanks!
odd mason
dual
np
one mistake i made was i didn't know about v2 v3 versions
if you can find v2 or v3 versions get those
apparently they're better on power and such
rapid musk
Right on. Appreciate that
odd mason
np
ocean mirage
slightly better, but v3 requires DDR4 I believe so thats a cost
I'm on that E5-2670. Considered the v2 but they are that much more expensive that I doubt the power savings would have made up for it
hushed basalt
Tick tock?
ocean mirage
Tick - architecture change, Tock - die shrink
ocean mirage
I think it may have blown out in recent years
hushed basalt
Do you think Intel will always hold their dominance in enterprise.
ocean mirage
I would have thought so but I know some people losing it at EPYC features/performance
clear ferry
Epyc has shitty designs for some applications in enterprise
Skylake is by far the superior design
And when Itanium will retire now a lot of those features will be moved to Xeon
Strengthening the product
boreal pewter
@odd mason because I got API banned yesterday after just uploading for an hour or so, I still have to make sure fuse Mounts and so on
hushed basalt
Technically better does not always mean better for the market though
hearty depot
Fufufu.. shouldnt have bought a Dell I guess.. last two months the gurantee is gone away.. wat happens now? A pump failure..
Updated the bios.. grate Idea - now I just get an black screen - yaay
Also a way to get rid of the failure I think
clear ferry
Lol
Thank goodness for Norwegian consumer law
5 years right to have it repaired or exchanged if the problem can't be solved
hearty depot
🤧
hearty depot
AiO dell aurora r6
ocean mirage
I didn't realise that prebuilts were using AIOs
clear ferry
Lol Alienware
hearty depot
jea - realy lol - but where.. cheap 🤣 Decent i5 1080ti 16gb ram for a little more then 1K
fufufufu! aah dont having a working PC is a pain T_T
clear ferry
I remember buying a prebuilt one in... 1995 😛
boreal pewter
I remember a prebuilt one, my first, when I was like 11
hearty depot
well was my first prebuilt ever (besides laptops)
When I builded that thing in this configuration would have spend 40% more
boreal pewter
@clear ferry remember when you were 11? Round about the time the first Mustang Was invented? 😂
ocean mirage
I was 3 in 95
tawny pebble
Hey guys, not the best channel probably but don't want to annoy those guys talking already on the homeassistant channel...
So, i'm happy the updater component is now seen as a sensor in v 0.98. But my dev page shows:
binary_sensor.updater: unavailable
updater: exists in configuration.yaml (since v. 0.96) but can't tell if it ever worked as I never noticed notification(s).
cool i'm not alone: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/0-98-improved-entity-management-options-and-home-assistant-alerts/134369/19?u=apuglife
bug found I guess :/
clear ferry
And remember @tawny pebble this channel is for anything BUT home assistant 
tawny pebble
@clear ferry great, because that application 'sux' 😂 😂 😂 😂 JK
clear ferry
strange vapor
Heh, mentioned Minio in passing yesterday, and now seeing an integration for it after appearing in 0.98 😄
hushed basalt
Anyone ever played with elasticsearch etc
boreal pewter
I currently run a unconfigured ELK stack but I maybe remove it again.
Using it a t work already
strange vapor
Protip: When upgrading HA, make sure you're in the right venv 😄
Was wondering why after upgrde I was seeing 0.97.2 still!
boreal pewter
strange vapor
To be fair, not a problem with venv, more a serious case of PEBKAC
strange vapor
clear ferry
I've always wondered the same, if I do a brocade zoning command it even asks "did you mean same command with semicolon inserted" just to taunt me
boreal pewter
Its 15:15 bro
scenic radish
08:15 over here where i'm at lol
strange vapor
14:29!!
low harness
Honestly, I've never seen "semicolon missing" as an error. "Unnecesary semicolon" happens in python, though.
What the compiler knows is that something is not right, and while there's often only one way things can be right there's infinite ways it can be wrong.
scenic radish
what i don't understand is why the lovelace card editor changes the order of the yaml that i type in after it's saved
confuses the hell out of me every time i go back to edit the card
😡
hearty depot
aah so long that I built an PC 😖
somebody care to help me ? 😛
boreal pewter
20€ per suggestion
hearty depot
bit expensive - I get ya 10€
boreal pewter
Ok
hearty depot
cool xD
clear ferry
Phew, moved my freenas setup successfully to a new host
Score
@scenic radish that is why I stopped using the web editor, it hindered my learning, yaml 4 lyfe
strange vapor
ini files are where it's at!!
scenic radish
yeah, I've done all my automations in straight yaml. It helped me learn more I think
clear ferry
I raise your config.ini with my autoexec.bat @strange vapor
No wait... It was config.sys
late gate
emm386 :p
strange vapor
Found my Monkey Island CDs recently. Now just need an MT32!
late gate
no wonder we learned a lot during DOS times
strange vapor
I know some of the JV series allowed you to hit certain keys on boot to emulate an MT-32
Have a JV2080 sitting mostly idle!
clear ferry
I saw you could emulate mt32 on a pi
I might have to try that
Build a retropi with a CRT screen and speakers
strange vapor
I have an old P166 Desktop which I rescued from a milking palour for old DOS games. Top notch S3 graphics, an AWS64G and a CF to IDE backplane thingy.
Works a charm, but need a nice MT-32 to complete it!
clear ferry
I still remember my AWE64 gold, I used it for over 10 years
Best sound card I ever had
strange vapor
Oh, and there' s QuickShot ISA card for 2x Joysticks as well 🙂
I had to relearn all the fun with IRQs and DMA when setting it all up.
boreal pewter
clear ferry
Gee thanks @boreal pewter that server sounds fun
boreal pewter
😄
scenic radish
found a way to make my computer faster
scenic radish
already have
topped out at 1024 GB
i don't need a hard drive anymore, all my storage is in RAM
boreal pewter
Nice, now you can run chrome
scenic radish
lol
clear ferry
1024GB RAM? Are you from 2007 or something? 😛
boreal pewter
Well it at least can run chrome
odd mason
1024GB is 1 TB in ram, no?
boreal pewter
Ye
odd mason
1024MB = 1GB
odd mason
LOL
scenic radish
but it won't blend
odd mason
all storage in RAM is such a bad idea
clear ferry
You should read up on SAP HANA @odd mason 😛
unkempt umbra
get UPS
odd mason
@clear ferry that sounds like i need a wand to say
scenic radish
but i don't need to ship anything
odd mason
odd mason
are they used as storage tho
clear ferry
@odd mason yes in memory databases are a thing
clear ferry
I never joke😛
odd mason
@clear ferry for sure but there's always some sort of disk storage
clear ferry
Yes, but the whole database can live in memory
Then just write changes at set intervals to disk
Which is usually nvme or ssd
odd mason
i bought some SSDs that i need to install in my server
clear ferry
Nvmeof is coming at full power
clear ferry
Ssds are so 2011
odd mason
SSDs is all that my server will take
odd mason
no space for NVMe
clear ferry
Nvmeof > nvme
scenic radish
i prefer flash drives
odd mason
i don't even know the difference
scenic radish
one is longer
odd mason
for my use cases it doesn't even matter. i only got SSDs to act as cache for zfs
scenic radish
i thought it was cool when i switched from running hassos on an sd card to installing hassio in raspbian on an ssd on my pi
but you guys are far beyond that
clear ferry
If you had only seen the systems I've seen 😂
clever mortar
You get to play with proper hardware all the time 😉
clear ferry
Every day 😛
scenic radish
this is the most advanced system i've seen
it's called a raspberry pi, have you guys heard of it?
clever mortar
Some of these poor folks wouldn't know how to spot the difference between a cold and hot swap backplane... 😛
boreal pewter
Maybe soon the last time when the taxes costs as much as the device is worth
scenic radish
@clear ferry you count to me
clear ferry
Lookup Superdome, a dual rack config with 198 PCI-X slots 😛
scenic radish
goodness lol
clear ferry
Or Superdome Flex which is the modern one
boreal pewter
198 RTX 2080 ti to run Crysis
clear ferry
64TB memory, 896 cores and 64 Tesla Nvidia cards
scenic radish
does it power the ISS
boreal pewter
Strange Games
scenic radish
i'd like to play global thermonuclear war
clear ferry
Have you seen War Games @scenic radish?
scenic radish
oh yeah, great movie
scenic radish
it's weird seeing matthew broderick that young
strange vapor
Rewatched Hackers recently. Strange seeing such a young Angelina Jolie hacking the gibson!
scenic radish
never seen it, i'll have to add it to the list
clear ferry
Lawnmower man is also an underrated film
fallow galleon
how bottlenecked would it be if I use SSD in a shucked WD enclosure
clear ferry
Depends on the usb to sata converter 🤷
late gate
wonder if I should retire the NUC with an i3-6100u for the old Blue Iris HP machine with an i5-6500 - guess would be a tad more powerful for proxmox/esxi
unkempt umbra
wow its dead around here
thorny swallow
My slide deck from last night's talk is online https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6573029622471065600/
There'll be video soon!
autumn tartan
@thorny swallow dns rpz ...clever for tricking IoT devices...
@clear ferry agree ... and also why "Ready Player One" the book blows the movie away...
@late gate i think you have plenty of juice with the i3 ... I'm using a hacked Chrome Box Celeron with extra RAM and HA with InfluxDB and Grafana flies ... around 7% CPU most of the time
hushed basalt
Anyone have any baby related home automation stuff they'd like to share
I set up a baby monitor noise sensor to apple watch notification,
clear ferry
I only had a wall button to turn on and off the mains to the wall mounted camera 🤷
@boreal pewter did our Hungarian friend raise enough funds for a pi? 
clear ferry
boreal pewter
@clear ferry idk actually, haven't seen him here the last days
futex(0x246bd48, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 0, NULL```@boreal pewter Use the -f option to follow what has been forked off.
boreal pewter
Mh mh sadly not more info
Looks like something blocked me
FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 0, {tv_sec=0, tv_nsec=5309673}) = -1 ETIMEDOUT (Connection timed out)
echo tide
hey guys, anyone know where to start looking? my home assistant works perfectly fine when accessed via IP, but gives me the 'cannot connect to home assistant' error when I log in via a reverse proxied URL (Nginx - Proxy Pass)
clear ferry
@echo tide #330944238910963714
velvet horizonBOT
sweet veldt
Anybody got an idea why my Hue Bridge sometimes close and open its interface? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JtwjWdXQrv/
I noticed that Hass sometimes show lights unavailable
clear ferry
Poor network connection or bad bridge? But the question belongs in #zigbee-archived @sweet veldt
sweet veldt
okay
rich rapids
I was trying to post an issue for a component in home assistant in docker but do I have the wrong location assistance will be greatly appreciated https://github.com/home-assistant/hassos/issues/464#issuecomment-526588986
scenic radish
this should go to #449717345808547842, but it looks like @light nest took care of this for you
boreal pewter
Anyone familiar with rclone?
boreal pewter
I can't get the systemd file to work
scenic radish
try asking it nicely
light nest
@scenic radish @rich rapids the build should now work. I need invest some hours to update the wheels builder because pandas is a bit special to build
rich rapids
@pvizeli. Thanks man. I was able to get it to work by installing gcc. I have that as a container start command now. I can remove that correct
light nest
if the wheels build is done, you don't need compile it self with gcc
HA install the wheels from our server on startup
finite glen
Do you have studio lights in your garage 😂?
scenic radish
damn son, gotta get them LEDs
also here's part of my mobile frontend, anyone have any feedback
unreal orbit
I recommend setting a darker theme so your retinas aren't burned off, but it's really all about what makes you happy
boreal pewter
Rainbow colors to be the real hero
clever mortar
Dark purple, lime green, and maybe some cyan
And a pair of sunglasses
orchid rose
Spent three hours moving my Kodi setup to my Ubuntu NUC setup and then two hours to go back to the old setup after I couldn't get HDMI audio to work... 😡
boreal pewter
lol sounds like a pretty messed up setup
orchid rose
don't get me started...
rich rapids
@light nest thank you for your time
scenic radish
#holoyolo
clear ferry
@finite glen @scenic radish 16 flourecent lights
scenic radish
@unreal orbit yeah, i've just been using the default theme for now...i have a pixel xl, so i should take advantage of a dark theme. should make a custom one...looks like i know what i'm doing tonight
@clever mortar funky
velvet horizonBOT
Tinkerer is away for 48m 48s with a message :point_right: Off for a chat with the Cookie Monster
worthy rapids
is it possible to track when notifications are sent from home assistant to my iPhone within home assistant? I want to save this information to influxdb so I can better analyze when notifications are sent based on sensor data...
clever mortar
@worthy rapids Wrong channel 😉
worthy rapids
sorry
scenic radish
i forgive you
strange vapor
Typical! Sorting out a Broadlink Mini, and the remote for the Hifi in the sitting room has just gone into hiding!
hushed basalt
Have you looked in the fridge
My wife tried to put the spray and wipe in the fridge today
ocean mirage
the amount of times as a child I would have a yoghurt and throw the tub in the sink and the spoon in the bin
clear ferry
Well, it makes sense here, since they come with one time use spoons and we recycle big plastic items by washing them in the sink 😛
clear ferry
Usually all plastics recycle, but I usually just do the big stuff, unless I have good time
And glass recycles
And paper and cardboard
From regular households that is
And we sort our bio degradable from the rest
All defective electronics can be delivered for free to any outlet that sells them
clever mortar
We have to take our electronics to a recycling centre
So most folks just bin them 😦
clear ferry
Used to be like that.. 25 years ago
But then shops were told if you sell them you gotta accept them
clever mortar
If only...
clear ferry
And they have to deliver them to the recycling centers
Same with batteries and lightbulbs
clever mortar
We have that for batteries, and I think lightbulbs now
Not that I've had any LED bulbs fail on me yet...
clear ferry
And we are the country that has to do all the emission controls and demand people have to buy electric vehicles, it's so bullshit from one end to the other 😛
clever mortar
Yeah, I know too many folks who don't bother with recycling. The clinking of bottles in their waste bin makes that all too clear
clear ferry
Remember when I lived in Ireland, there was one bin for all
My mattress when I moved out? The bin, pet bottles? The bin, glass? The bin, batteries? The bin
clever mortar
Yeah... thankfully we've moved on a bit since then, but too few councils enforce correct use of the different bins
I used to live in an area that did regular checks of the contents of the bins, to ensure you weren't putting non-recyclables in the recycling bin, or recyclables in the waste bin - and would then refuse to collect until you corrected it
clear ferry
My parents only have one bin, but trash is sorted optically based on the colour of the bag, bio, glass, general, plastics, paper in the same bin
clear ferry
Yeah even the trash car is electric, and only one guy doing the route, because houses put the bins at the street and the car optically adjusts to pick them up correctly while parking at the street
clever mortar
Damn 😮
clear ferry
England needs to look to Norway 😛
clever mortar
I'd rather Scotland did 😉
clear ferry
Like when Gatwick calls my father at the airport to get tips on how to shovel the runway 😛
clever mortar
Yeah, but England, and London in particular, doesn't know what to do with snow
clear ferry
England, United Kingdom, same stuff, different colonial value 😛
clever mortar
Up here snow is routine - though not in the kind of depths you lot get 😄
Wars have started over less I'll warn you 😉
Though, frankly, invading Finland sounds about as smart as invading Afghanistan...
clear ferry
✌
That is what Russia discovered too😿
@ocean mirage gotten around to listen yet? 
meager magnet
Whatcha guys think? I printed some of these window vinyl stickers for my new house
ocean mirage
I saw the emails but I am lazy
I have been playing Morrowind in my spare time instead
boreal pewter
Got my 0,5l coffee cup ready, time for gaming... as long I'm API banned again from Google
clear ferry
I'm wondering why you keep inviting us to a server we are already on 
boreal pewter
I wonder why Discord is so stupid 
vestal reef
I'm having issues getting my PS4 integration to work ..
It's not really an HA issue since I can't seem to connect with the second screen app on android either
Although it's not an issue with HA, would anyone happen to know a solution ?
boreal pewter
Not using PS4 
vestal reef
It just gives me a "the connection to the server timed out" error
I've searched on google and first few pages don't really seem much help (which doesn't happen often 😋 )
clear ferry
@vestal reef PS4 on cable and phone on WiFi?
vestal reef
yes
clear ferry
Do they share the same subnet?
vestal reef
yes
clear ferry
And have you tried connecting the PS4 to WiFi only?
vestal reef
no cuz wifi is really shitty where the ps4 is :p
clear ferry
I know certain routers block communication between wired and wireless
vestal reef
but I can connect to ps4 with remote play on pc fine (pc is also cable)
clear ferry
So there is your answer probably
vestal reef
is it a direct connection though ?
doesn't it just connect to sony servers and then back to PS4 ?
clear ferry
🤷
vestal reef
will try 😋
boreal pewter
I know that I had no problem with that with a FritzBox and cable + wifi, but yeah, as said, not using PS4 solves the problem also. We maybe turned the PS4 like a year ago on?
vestal reef
PS4 get used for hours each day here, but thing is I had it set so that HA detects the ps4 being turned on and then turns on amp and beamer automatically, so now we have to turn it on manually again, and once used to stuff just working it's kinda hard going back 😬
@clear ferry Just tried it on WIFI, same issue ..
clear ferry
Not sure, but doesn't the PS4 support CEC? If so it should just do that without ha 🤷
vestal reef
weird thing is I used the exact setup as it is now, ps4 on lan, same phone on wLan to initially set it all up and it worked fine then
clear ferry
Hopefully not phone on wan 😛
vestal reef
ps4 does, but beamer doesnt 🤦
boreal pewter
Updated router? Updated PS4? Changed settings on one of both? Restarted everything?
Static IP's to all devices?
vestal reef
good tips, will try..
boreal pewter
Not too sure again, like 2 years ago I added it once and felt like useless, but I think within the mobile app it could be that the PS4 is added via the internal IP which would change every few days unless static IP's
SO readding it or so would be another thing at the end when at least using static IP's
vestal reef
thing is, when installing the app from scratch it asks for email and pasw, and it's there that I get the error, not even te screen to add a ps4 by numbercode ..
clear ferry
late gate
Im getting too old for climbing the roof
clear ferry
I am scared of heights, but I have climbed roofs since I was 5 😂
late gate
when I climbed the roof when I was 5 I could get the most amazing places. Climbed today to scan som serial numbers, and felt like a 90 year old trying to limbo
clear ferry
Since I have 8 different Linux servers running Apache, maybe I should consider moving them to docker
flat verge
Hey guys. I'm Andy and new. Hope to learn from the group. I've already got started fairly quick using ESP8266 microcontroller using DHT22 temp/humidity sensor and pushing data via MQTT into home assistant 😄 .. good start to far.
last plaza
what about it?
tidal bronze
🤔
junior forge
@untold stirrup According to server history this is the first thing you say in here?
Are you ok?
boreal pewter
Please explain in full sentences what you're talking about and how this is related to HASS
clever mortar
Alerting all mods for this...
junior forge
yeah
clever mortar
Ban hammer time?
junior forge
@untold stirrup Ok, so the first thing you do is causing panic, no thing to proof and pinging all mods
so consider this a warning
boreal pewter
How is this fucking related to HASS
tidal bronze
I think @untold stirrup you are little confused
This is not discord community
Wrong place and time
clear ferry
clever mortar
Done
tidal bronze
@clever mortar too violent. 😀
clever mortar
Purple next time?
tidal bronze
Ah ha ha
boreal pewter
Too rude to the purple?
clever mortar
Why we keep getting the crazy folks who think we're Discord support...?
tidal bronze
Lol
junior forge
yep
clear ferry
We also get a lot of crazy people who think we will read the docs for them
boreal pewter
There are docs?
clear ferry
And generally crazy people
clear ferry
I did not ask for this, I was cursed by someone
boreal pewter
Hello Hello, is this McDonalds Support Discord? My burgers are with salad. That is racism against Meatnatics
junior forge
Would you like fries with that?
boreal pewter
Please sir!
tidal bronze
@clever mortar you banned him too quick, wanted to know more deets about this new money making model.
junior forge
Thank you, that makes it a grand total of $31, please proceed to the next window. Have a nice day sir.
clear ferry
boreal pewter
Probably just as with any other. Offering at Ebay or so to create a discord server for 5 bucks, or as per wishes for 20 or so. Just like with any multiplayer game and ingame money/items
tidal bronze
Another day, another dollar.
clear ferry
I can make more money? 
boreal pewter
When selling the rule is just to get as much attention as possible, 10% of the 100 are still stupid enough to pay
tidal bronze
Yep
boreal pewter
I could probably sell a HASS-Setup for 50-100 bucks on ebay
Or better, I offer a Smarthome DIY + INSTALLATION! ONLY TODAY with a RPI 4 for 200 bucks
-Theoratically spoken-
clear ferry
I should sell the Unix servers I have in my garage in parts on eBay
boreal pewter
OR you just rent them as Seedboxes with 2TB storage for 50 bucks monthly
clear ferry
I should become a cloud provider
junior forge
@clear ferry Home Assistant - Open source home automation that puts local control and privacy first, hosted, in the cloud.
👍
😄
clear ferry
No, hosting my HP-UX servers, aren't that many that offer that 😛
Or even run ha on HP-UX
trail crag
what'd I miss?
last plaza
our Dalai Lama became a ninja assassin
rapid musk
Anyone got a r720xd for sale?
clear ferry
I just installed a R510, probably going to throw a disk shelf on it at some point 😛
scenic radish
Yeah what'd fake Jackie chan say?
clear ferry
That Bruce Lee was a hack
tough igloo
Seems as though I missed all the action... Kung fu action 🤣
north ether
Anyone know if there's a way to run a GUI app on Windows over SSH?
I've got my SSH connection working, but GUI apps are always run in some invisible environment that the desktop user can't see.
an example: linux box runs ssh my@windows-pc.local notepad.exe. my expectation is that notepad.exe appears on the desktop of the windows pc
meager magnet
Kung Fu action, now seems very appropriate that he got kicked
late gate
Went to bed, started to crave fried chicken, and now waiting for it to finish frying
modest sentinel
just reading the words "fried chicken" makes me want fried chicken
deft reef
Is there a good, private tts engine I can get for HA without having to rely on Google or Amazon?
nimble igloo
trail crag
@north ether check out iot link. It lets you control and retreive a lot of Windows info via mqtt https://iotlink.gitlab.io/
scenic radish
Cluster? I hardly know her!
tidal bronze
@nimble igloo looks like 28 awg solid. You can use 30 awg stranded as well
clear ferry
@north ether powershell?
peak cloud
@deft reef I wouldn't classify it as "good," but it is private and local: https://www.home-assistant.io/components/picotts/
boreal pewter
@hushed basalt what you gonna cluster? And still using docker container then?
hushed basalt
Kubernetes
Bare metal install. Probably Ubuntu LTS, managed with ansible, then kubernetes
Using my Synology NFS shares for persistent storage
boreal pewter
Yeah but Kubernetes can spinup docker-containers
And what services are you going to cluster?
clear ferry
HPC or go home!
hearty depot
🤔
I'm actually impressed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfuSEdOdNz0
clear ferry
I love obscure instruments, now I want one
hushed basalt
@boreal pewter
I'll start with my current docker stack which is HA, node red, mqtt, zigbee2mqtt, all the 'arr services like sonarr, plex, rclone, caddy, etc etc
clear ferry
@strange vapor probably has one
hushed basalt
Then I'll look into ELK, hashicorp stuff
Maybe go back to traefik
Not really interested in storage. As no one runs that themselves nowadays so the educational element is worthless
Plus I don't want to invest in ECC hardware to run Ceph etc
boreal pewter
And you can make HASS clusterable? Since we had the talk in #449717345808547842 weeks ago and I'm pretty sure it's not esily clusterable
hushed basalt
Yeah it's probably not
But single node with eventual recovery is enough for me
So if I take down a node it will spin up HA again on another node
Life is too short to make non cluster aware services fraken clusterable
boreal pewter
Yeah, make a guide how you moved from docker to kubernetes/docker and networking setup
I can't find such all in one or the specific things I need at all understandable
clear ferry
So not clustering at all @hushed basalt just HA, like we have done with VMware for 15 years 😛
hushed basalt
Well Kubernetes is a cluster
Not my fault if HA devs aren't cluster aware ;)
But other services are cluster aware which I'll be running... When I have a cluster
boreal pewter
Oh btw: Kubernetes is not a cluster as is. Per definition it is an Orchestrator, which can be used to Cluster. It can just as well also maintain a single node. Because it is an orchestrator
clear ferry
I need to take a look at all this docker shit soon
hushed basalt
Oh I know it's not a cluster :p
But my cluster of three baremetal nodes will be a cluster :d
Also try asking on a Kubernetes community "how do I run K8s single node" and prepare to be shot down with "square peg in round hole" and all sorts of stuff
Join the container dark side @clear ferry
clear ferry
I prefer running my clusters under a hypervisor, one hardware, easily transferable to multiple later 😛
hushed basalt
Go full Google. No VMs
hushed basalt
You remind me of this talk I went to once
foggy flint
full docker, no vms 😉
boreal pewter
That doesn't matter. To run in single node it just needs one small parameter, and if that needs to be asked then he should maybe not host anything. But beside that, just because it can run a cluster and may be even the most used in professional and business environments, it doesn't mean to run in single mode is nooby
hushed basalt
Rar rar rar I've been developing software for 50 years I've seen it all before rabble rabble rabble
clear ferry
I prefer 800+ node HPC anyway, you can keep your docker shite ❤
hushed basalt
Just throw a better server at it
foggy flint
why would anyone want to complicate things with vms 🙂
clear ferry
@foggy flint because we prefer tried and tested virtualization environments in enterprise 😛
foggy flint
unless you want/need to run several different os'es
hushed basalt
I'm pretty sure kubernetes is tried and tested
clear ferry
And yes, we usually run 50+ os versions or variants 😛
@hushed basalt for developers and huge scalable one system fits all, sure, for oil and gas? No
hushed basalt
I have been speaking to consultants for big LNG companies who have been using serverless
Or functions as a service if you want to be pedantic
Not even containers
clear ferry
LNG you say, they need servers? They have 4 filling stations in all of Norway 😛
foggy flint
@clear ferry norsk?
hushed basalt
LPG is probably what you are thinking of though
foggy flint
😄
clear ferry
@hushed basalt you are right 
Norway has Europe's biggest LNG facility though
hushed basalt
Yeah Norway are hypocrites
Look as us, we are so carbon free with all our dams
meanwhile economy is based on exporting fossil fuels
foggy flint
too much taxes on dams now, so we build windmill's instead
pure vine
Look at us we sell fossil fuels to Europe so we can buy power back from them
hushed basalt
We sell our gas to SE Asia and then have 'gas shortages' domestically
And the conservative party used a major natural disaster in a state to blame renewables as unreliable.
Even though it was distribution network being taken out
pure vine
I swear the only reason the UK stopped burning coal is because we realised we could relley on Frances over production of nuclear power at night
hushed basalt
Coal is pretty dirty though
pure vine
Agreed
hushed basalt
Actually causes more net radioactive environmental waste than all of nuclear
pure vine
Coal mines make cool museums though
hushed basalt
Except it's in our childs lungs instead of buried in an underground bunker
All our coal mines are open now
So it's like. well.thats a big pit.
pure vine
There is a former coalmine in Wales that is a museum and you can go down into the mine
hushed basalt
I think it's just cheaper to make them open now
For coal at least
My grandfather was a Yorkshire coal miner though
Robot dump trucks are taking over though
People earning 200k/year to drive trucks from point A to B are now finding themselves redundant
pure vine
Apparently there is a electric dump truck that they never recharge as they have managed to reclaim the energy from going the hill when they go down the hill
hushed basalt
Hmm I'm skeptical
Extended run time sure
Unless they're going down hill loaded and uphill unloaded . Perhaps.
boreal pewter
I think in my foreign language it was rather called "almost never" and not "really never"
clear ferry
Yeah, it was fully charged going up, at 80% on the top and 89% coming down or something
I remember reading it
hushed basalt
As long as your resources are naturally uphill you're all set :D
One could argue that all you're doing is stealing potential energy from the formation of the crust
Also it's important to be aware of
Being really efficient at doing the wrong thing
pure vine
It was in a mine
hushed basalt
Usually mine resources are below ground level :D
strange vapor
@clear ferry I actually do have an omnichord down at the parent's house. Needs a bit of TLC though.
clear ferry
I knew it!
hearty depot
🤣
strange vapor
Picked up at a car boot sale a few years ago, but it's not working. Will eventually get around to having a go at fixing it.
strange vapor
Not yet. Tempted to get the Moog one. Have tried to play one, and it's awkward enough.
clear ferry
I was very interested after seeing Joe bonamassa play one on stage
hearty depot
pfff.. tryed the last hour to delete an old docker container wich I set up on :89
was the whole time reachable via the browser, but didnt found a trace on the host - Thourght I'd go insane 🤣
chached site 😓
clear ferry
chilly nymph
Hey folks! Anyone very familiar with mesh wifi networks?
I'm moving in to a new place that I "can't touch" for one or two years and will be living on the third floor with my family (a relative-owned) home. I will be taking over the internet, but the router will have to be on the first floor. The third floor does not get coverage. MoCa and Powerline are not options. Mesh is the best thing I can come up with.
clever mortar
If you've got a question, best to actually ask it 😉
chilly nymph
I don't know that I have a specific question. More just what people's general experiences have been. 😦
Reviews are good online. I'm eyeing the Velop system.
I saw that the newer Deco system has zigbee integrated, though don't see an HA integration for it, so not sure it would do me much good anyway.
Not worth trying to build one anyway when I already have a few zigbee solutions that have all worked for me in the past
clever mortar
Any reason you've ruled out Powerline?
chilly nymph
it's a multi-family dwelling with separate breakers
MoCa won't work because there is no coax in the third unit, and I've been asked not to install one. Hence why I need to use the internet from the first floor and can't get my own. But I get to take over the cost of it. That's my fault though because they are happy with 25 mbps. I'm not.
clever mortar
Yeah, so mesh should work fine, or even a cable out the window 😉
chilly nymph
Hah. I'd actually be fine with that. Won't pass the WAF though.
I keep telling myself it's temporary. We are selling our condo/moving because of the school district. The one we bought in keeps getting worse and is now nearing the bottom.
Not that you need my whole life story. 😒
chilly nymph
Yep. Unfortunately, the prices right now on homes are also through the roof. So there's the hope we will "get out at the top" and then be able to buy again in another community.
chilly nymph
@clear ferry What are your thoughts on it from a poweruser perspective? And are you running the dual-band or tri-band version?
I'll be switching from asuswrt-merlin but have also used things like dd-wrt and openwrt in the past.
clear ferry
I have a 20 meter long House, i have one in each end and one in the middle I have the dual band ones
Used to run HP MSM access points, but wanted something more modern
I run them in bridge, all routing happens in pfsense
chilly nymph
Ah. I haven't gotten into pfsense. I want to. But I have a feeling this isn't the time to do it.
clever mortar
I used pfSense a while back, was rather happy with it (as a power user)
clear ferry
Running it for 15 years, can recommend it
clever mortar
Used to spend lots of time on their forums, but life (and a lack of pfSense) got in the way
chilly nymph
Yeah, everyone loves it. I am subbed to the pfsense subreddit. I just don't think me bringing the internet down for everyone in the house would go over well while I learn it.
clever mortar
It does provide incentive to learn fast though 😛
chilly nymph
Time isn't exactly something I'm rich with at the moment though, with work
And my commute is going to go up to over an hour, which won't help
clear ferry
I drive 40.000km per year, plus flights, and work 140% hours at work and have a baby, want to compare notes? 😛
clever mortar
Yeah, but at least the school won't suck - and it's only for a "few" years 😉
chilly nymph
It better not be a few years
@clear ferry I'm not 15 years in to pfsense though, lol. But We can compare notes if you want. I'm only at 60 hours a week at work if you don't compare my work from home time. Two kids under 6. So you probably have me beat.
clever mortar
Yeah, but he travels the world fixing breaking people's systems
chilly nymph
Our commutes are probably similar. I bought my car 3 years ago and I'm at 90k miles
clear ferry
Gotta break them to fix them 🤷
chilly nymph
hah
clever mortar
I travel the world after people have their systems broken and tell them how screwed they are 😉
chilly nymph
I also work finance though, so this stuff is not quite as second nature as it probably is for y'all
I also just realized that I called myself a power user. In this room, I am probably a newbie.
clever mortar
It's all relative 😉
You know far more about finance than us geeks, hopefully anyway 😛
chilly nymph
Or I'm just really good at pretending
clever mortar
We all are...
chilly nymph
Actually I just found out this week that they decided to make me an officer, so I'm celebrating that
It doesn't really mean anything though. Just some fancy letters after my name.
clever mortar
Eh, it all looks good on the CV
chilly nymph
That's why I'll celebrate it. Even though there was no real raise since it came with my annual performance review.
@clear ferry Do you remember setting up the router when you first got it? A couple articles I'm reading seem to indicate it can be set up via mobile app only. I much prefer to be able to use https and ssh
chilly nymph
ok
thanks for the help!
Also, @clever mortar thanks for always being here. Like...constantly. It's always helpful!
clear ferry
Yeah @clever mortar , you are here constantly, you should get a hobby! Like crocheting 
clever mortar
I tried that, but crocheting razor wire is hard on the fingers
clear ferry
clever mortar
I do wonder if the person who said that was how you make wire wool was pulling my leg 🤔
chilly nymph
I'm a millennial who always gets frustrated when people claim millennials can't fix stuff around the house because I've fixed just about every appliance in mine.
But then my neighbors tell me about how they buy new appliances because of something small that would cost $30 to fix and I wonder if there is something to it. Or ask me to help them figure out what kind of light bulb they need (which just happened). Maybe I should stop getting offended? lol
clever mortar
Its more a mindset thing, and there's enough folks I grew up with who wouldn't know how to fix anything - including my brother
chilly nymph
Probably partially a mindset thing and that most of us aren't moving into houses until we have a fully established career these days
So disposable income doesn't necessitate pinching pennies, I suppose
clever mortar
I learned how to fix stuff while growing up. Partly because I was interested, and partly because I saw my dad doing DIY and I wanted to "be like him"
chilly nymph
Same.
clever mortar
Then again, I've always wanted to understand why and how
chilly nymph
I've splurged on some things though. Like I upgraded my dishwasher when my old one barely started acting up. But mostly because when that thing ran, I couldn't watch TV due to how loud it is and we have an open floor plan
@clever mortar Same. But that got me in trouble when I disassembled my dad's scanner when I was a kid
clever mortar
Yeah, we fix (or pay to have fixed) things that are fixable, as long as they're not turning into a money pit
Eh, I only got into trouble once, and the fuse blew before I got seriously hurt...
chilly nymph
I got into trouble only because my dad explicitly told me not to do it. I didn't break the thing. I was just curious.
clever mortar
😄
chilly nymph
I suppose it tells you something if you have to be told not to take apart something we just bought
So I think I've narrowed my choices down to the lyra and a setup with aimesh
clear ferry
I was encouraged to fix stuff around the house since I was a kid 🤷
Anything I can build or repair myself I do
clever mortar
I'm better at breaking hardware than fixing it
chilly nymph
Agreed. People thought I was crazy when I said I was going to fix my furnace. I paid someone to fix it once, but that was because it was in the middle of the winter. When it was in the fall and something broke on it, I just took care of it myself.
past idol
hello guys
chilly nymph
Took longer because i had to wait two days for the part to come in. But it was warm enough in the house that a sweater made everyone just fine
past idol
which email provider do you use / prefer?
boreal pewter
Tinkerbell are you using some Gdrive rclone setup?
clever mortar
@boreal pewter For backup, I use B2
boreal pewter
So you pay for Gsuite without using the storage?
boreal pewter
🤷
chilly nymph
Tinkerbell?
clever mortar
Putting all your eggs in one basket is risky 😉
past idol
is there any other option you you know of?
clever mortar
Loads of them
boreal pewter
Sure but just for Mail, free Gmail is enough
clever mortar
If you don't have a domain 😉
boreal pewter
If I'd pay for mails I god damn would require someone knocking at my door and reading it
clever mortar
There's Outlook too
chilly nymph
Ehh
storm summit
I used to host my own domain. Ditched it. didn't care enough anymore and gmail is FREE 🙂
chilly nymph
If you have your own domain name, gmail doesn't quite live up. But you can still use it.
clever mortar
And a few dozen mail hosts
chilly nymph
But if you are looking for free hosted email, there is gmail, outlook.com, yahoo, mail.com, etc etc
storm summit
365
clever mortar
Yeah, if I wasn't so tied to Google already, Microsoft would be my hosts of choice
boreal pewter
I even have more than 1 domain but yeah I don't offer any official service that would require those as an email
chilly nymph
For free webmail, I've been pretty happy with gmail, but I use outlook for some things as well
storm summit
don't care enough
what about me.com ? anyone using that?
apple seems to care more about privacy
storm summit
lol
boreal pewter
While in Gmail google uses and sells your data you may be better with a small provider like Protonmail which still makes it's money by offering very small space for free and then selling Premium. But secure as of no one can read doesn't exist unless encrypting yourself
clever mortar
GSuite they don't use and sell your data, at least not according to the contract...
It depends on whether you trust them not to be evil...
storm summit
Yea. I should really look into moving to something like that. google seems evil.
boreal pewter
Gsuite is not free in that case tho
storm summit
well, for that paid stuff they don't harvest your data.
past idol
@boreal pewter do you have any experience with protonmail?
boreal pewter
So if something is free, most likely YOU are the money
I use protonmail for 2 accounts
I haven't had issues or so
storm summit
hmmm ..but switching means calendar and contact and all that stuff.
chilly nymph
Yes, when using a free service, you are not the client and are instead the product
With the exception of something like HASS, which is community supported
storm summit
Hrmz. I do like the integrations of email/cal/contact. switching would be tough
boreal pewter
That is called Open Source
chilly nymph
Yes, it is...
storm summit
I'm pretty sure there are self-hosed email solutions that come pre-made in docker 🙂
chilly nymph
But there are things that are not open source that are also community supported
storm summit
maybe frenk should get on that
boreal pewter
Everyone can host an SMTP sure
While it is probably still the most attacked and often insecure found service due to terrible admins
past idol
I've heard good things about mailbox too
storm summit
Just imagine all the pi people running their own email servers. heheh
past idol
yeah but at least with protonmail there is bridge etc.
I need to use it on my phone too
and other devices
chilly nymph
I would not think integrating an email server into hass would be a good idea
storm summit
You mean hassio addon right?
chilly nymph
Ok. give me a second. I'll be back once I've finished crying.
Alright. I found a docker based email server. @storm summit do you want to make the add-on or do you want me to?
past idol
by the way do you think there is any reasonable cloud service?
which is not dropbox gdrive etc?
chilly nymph
What kind of cloud service? Based on your follow-up, I'm guessing you mean cloud storage?
past idol
yeah
need to store a few stuff
and access it from my phone
until i can setup a naws
nas
chilly nymph
any reason you don't want dropbox
There's also a litany of webhosts. I've used my webhost as cloud storage in the past.
And if you don't need it to "act" like dropbox, just use any old ftp server
past idol
ah privacy issues with that too
chilly nymph
What privacy issues are you concerned about? No matter who you are paying, someone else at least at a minimum has access to your files. You can always encrypt them.
clever mortar
Yup, if you're worried, encrypt before uploading
hearty depot
if encryption wouldn't be so tedious work
chilly nymph
And I'd think the ftp server route, depending on who you are paying, would have the fewest privacy concerns
storm summit
@chilly nymph get on that addon 🙂 . which project are you proposing
past idol
@hearty depot agreed
yeah but it depends
i mean if a small company sees it it is still better
chilly nymph
I still need to sit down and figure out how to package up an add-on
chilly nymph
Why is it hard to encrypt?
storm summit
I don't use hassio myself but any project that wants more exposure would be smart to be a hassio addon
past idol
then threw it in my face
chilly nymph
@past idol Do you use duckduckgo?
hearty depot
funny thing is that duckduck go is hosted on google servers
chilly nymph
It's hosted by google 😄
past idol
I*
chilly nymph
It's encrypted though, so should be fine
chilly nymph
I've mostly come to terms with the idea that Google already has access to everything about me
past idol
but it is encrypted
hearty depot
disagree - when I really looking for something I have to fallback to googe
past idol
I am not selling secret plans to russians
@hearty depot sadly yes
sometimes i need to switch too
chilly nymph
I use android and rely on google play services, so not much I can do in many regards
hearty depot
jea.. the services are very neat 😦
i tryed it - but its braking so much stuff
specialy my most fav app for sms
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xyz.klinker.messenger
chilly nymph
Also, something that is very scary is since I use it and keep location services enabled, they log everywhere I've ever been.
But that actually came in handy when my wife lost the proximity key to my car (her set), which costs $500 to replace. I just had to look at the week and figure out everywhere we had been and start calling.
Made me realize that on my next car, I may not want push to start.
past idol
maybe I've watched to much Black Mirror 😄
chilly nymph
There is good reason to be concerned about privacy.
At the moment, I just value the convenience over privacy. Which I realize is probably a terrible thing to say.
past idol
yeah maybe but I can totally understand it
and also because it is not considered important by bigger companies
it is hard to use that stuff
chilly nymph
That said, I switched away from nest when Google bought it.
And I've intentionally not bought some amazon things.
hearty depot
hell most of us got either an alexa or g-home standing around (or both 😅 )
chilly nymph
Or both....oops.
hearty depot
chilly nymph
I have a device in every room in my house, including the bathroom -_-
Only have one with a camera in the kitchen though.
past idol
using alexa laser?
chilly nymph
And that has a physical shutter on it
I have a few echos, a google home, and a lenovo smart display, which is google
chilly nymph
No.
hearty depot
chilly nymph
They are both effectively the same
past idol
nice plant
chilly nymph
If you are 100% privacy centric, don't use any voice assistant. You may also need to get rid of your phone, depending on the phone you have. and don't use any websites or apps on your computer that can access the microphone.
I don't mean that to be a troll. A voice assistant is probably the worst of them, but all three are real
hearty depot
worst thing, i know
chilly nymph
I had a friend mention to me the new place he had an interview in person. I started to see ads for that company the next day. I had never once heard of it before, as it was a small newspaper in a completely different state.
Possible coincidence. But quite a weird one.
hearty depot
had also two of this coincidence ads - but i'm honest - not anymore since energized protection and adguard - I just dont see ads anymore
chilly nymph
I got them on my phone. I don't do anything to block ads on my phone besides pihole at home
and I disable pihole a lot anyway because it keeps breaking things
hearty depot
check out adguard 🙂 I got a phisical button in front of me with the label i want to see this add
chilly nymph
So it's local to the device, it looks like
chilly nymph
It looks like it's available for windows, android, ios, and mac though? I won't be running my network traffic through one of my devices running any of those OS's
hearty depot
What youre talking about now? energized or adguard?
chilly nymph
adguard
hearty depot
only DNS requests
and they are then secured throu dns over tls
chilly nymph
Oh, you are just talking about the DNS service.
hearty depot
it does more? 🤣
chilly nymph
There are several services on their website. Most are installs.
I already use some DNS services on occasion
hearty depot
lets bless Frenck for a seccond here
https://github.com/hassio-addons/addon-adguard-home
chilly nymph
My router also has some built in DNS lists
I'm starting to think I will need to settle on aimesh because it will be hard for me to move on from merlin.
@lyric spoke How long would you expect it to take a newbie like me to get pfsense set up and running for the basics of things?
lyric spoke
Did you mean to tag me lol? I never used pf sense
chilly nymph
Nope. Sorry
lyric spoke
Haha got the alert and was so confused. Ok good luck
chilly nymph
@clear ferry
hearty depot
not too shure - but I guess when I get another Ubiquiti UAP-AC-LITE I could also do an mesh wlan 🤔
chilly nymph
You missed the conversation, but I'm going to have to rethink my entire network very soon because I'm moving
clear ferry
@chilly nymph a few hours 😛
chilly nymph
That's not super bad
Probably more than I'll want to spend while everything else is going on though
clear ferry
I'm a weirdo though, I usually fix products I don't know in less time than people who actively work with them at work 😛
chilly nymph
Yeah, no, I get that.
I just also know I'm going to be tech support for everything in the building (already am, but am less accessible at the moment)
so low-touch is also a good thing
I'll already need to reconfigure everything in homeassistant lol
meager magnet
made the mistake of showing my in-laws my emby server and now i'm permanently tech support for them
storm summit
chilly nymph
I was kidding about making the add on
I would never want to tie a mail server to hass
static plinth
So what's the deal with nest moving forward? Are new users basically unable to control nest with home assistant now?
static plinth
For example if I wanted to create a scene that toggles the nest home or away status... do I basically need to wait until a works with Google Assistant module for nest is created by the Home assistant user community? Is controlling the nest possible with Google Assistant via home assistant? Will it be? Is it just me or is it weird that nest wouldn't work with home assistant (a Google product?). anyway I told my client not to buy nest and they went and bought three... And only now are they realizing that they really do need some automated thermostat controls in their smart Home
hushed basalt
odd mason
ECOVACS DEEBOT OZMO 950 is on sale for 650 at Costco right now
it's normally 800 bucks
just picked one up. apparently one of the most powerful robot vacuums on the market right now
amber bramble
i want a robot mop
odd mason
@amber bramble this is a 2 in 1
But I have the bravo jet too
It's okay...the setup for mops is the annoying part
I just like that I can use it locally with some of the projects on GitHub.
chilly nymph
@clear ferry I set up pfsense in a VM to test it out. It was surprisingly easy. I assumed there would be a lot less wizard and a lot more manual component activation via command line.
chilly nymph
@azure frost Likely to have the most luck in #330944238910963714
azure frost
Thanks! I'm new here and have no clue where anything goes!
This discord seems wayy more active then snips.ai so im hoping\ I have better luck here lol
chilly nymph
Not a problem. You may not get an answer right away, but best to ask the exact (initial) question and hopefully someone will get back to you
azure frost
Ah ok
azure frost
Do you think what I said enough or no?
Should I post log info
and config or should I wait and see
chilly nymph
I would say what you said is good to start with
azure frost
Ok thanks for the tips!
chilly nymph
If it's a known issue someone will chime in. If it's not, they'll likely try to help you troubleshoot or potentially send you back to snip.ai
depending on if they think it's an issue with the integration or with snip.ai itself
azure frost
Ah ok snip.ai dosent seem to be very active on it.
Ah ok
I think it might be a issue with config but im not sure theres a better way
Like its tied in fine
chilly nymph
I guess what I'm saying is it could be an issue with snip.ai or it could be an issue with how HA is interfacing with it
azure frost
I think that might be it
chilly nymph
so depending on which side it is would define how best to approach the fix
chilly nymph
It cycles on and off. Speaking of, I need to run. Good luck!
azure frost
Thanks! Bye!
clear ferry
@chilly nymph it ain't rocket science, but if you want it can do outstanding stuff 😛
strange vapor
Playing with snapcast for audio in a few rooms, and it's really really damn nice. The thought occurs, I've been dropping in Pi 3s behind the speakers for snapcast client duties. They could also be used as BT presence detection...
clear ferry
Even zeros would suffice I guess
boreal pewter
Nah I would at least put a 4HE 19" with a few Xeons at each, just making sure it doesn't lack performance issues
@clear ferry can provide a few TB RAM just to cache everything
strange vapor
Meh, Pi3 already in the rooms, might was well make use of them for more than snapcast 😄
hushed basalt
@strange vapor you can wire in sensors as well
Temperature, humidity, environmental, PIR, reed switches,
It's handy to have hardwired sensors to your PIs gpios
No batteries, no wireless intererence, and dirt cheap per sensor
strange vapor
You're just being a bad influence now....
hushed basalt
Run a bell switch to a wall plate
Use it to control the lights to that room
Looks 100% identical to the normal light switch plates
And costs $5 instead of $50
Hell put a touch screen on the RPI and stick it on the wall
Now you have a alarm/HA control/music panel
clear ferry
wooo, created my first docker container
but it failed to start
🤣
CONTAINER ID IMAGE COMMAND CREATED STATUS PORTS NAMES
e11e60cdb0ea mariadb:latest "docker-entrypoint.s…" About a minute ago Exited (1) 59 seconds ago kakuzu
I guess there is something wrong
clear ferry
It's probably me
it always is me 😿
I created it like this
docker run --name kakuzu -v /docker/mariadb:/var/lib/mysql -e MYSQL_ROOT_PASSWORD=password -d mariadb:latest --net=intranett
I'm not too familiar with run commands
But you use bind mounts
/docker/mariadb needs to have the owner as the same UID and GUID as WITHIN the container
clear ferry
it is probably my syntax, I wanted it to use a macvlan network I created called intranett but I see the docker logs say
2019-09-02 13:27:36 0 [ERROR] mysqld: ambiguous option '--net=intranett' (net_buffer_length, net_retry_count)
ERROR: mysqld failed while attempting to check config
command was: "mysqld --net=intranett --verbose --help --log-bin-index=/tmp/tmp.mjWoBbgQ0k"
guessing --net= is not the alias of the network
dull chasm
@clear ferry i got a compose file for it but workstation is unplugged ...getting ready for new speakers ...i cna share later when its back up
clear ferry
just gives me another error @boreal pewter 🤣 2019-09-02 13:36:38 0 [ERROR] mysqld: unknown variable 'network=intranett'
I need to go back to basics
strange vapor
hmm, since when does mysql take a network option? I can see the docker cli taking it, not mysqld
clear ferry
oh, that is where I'm going wrong, I want to specify the network of the container
but it passes it as a mysql variable
boreal pewter
The network setting is always a Docker setting and not a service setting
strange vapor
ie, docker run --network=intranett $image mysqld ....
boreal pewter
It is mandatory to use them
strange vapor
It's just ordering of the args most likely
boreal pewter
Yeah, just have the image always being the end of command
clear ferry
that worked like a charm
boreal pewter
But you won't use run commands for long for sure
strange vapor
@clear ferry I've learnt that the hard way 🙂
dull chasm
@boreal pewter no doubt i got away from them quick
boreal pewter
Yep 🙂
dull chasm
with compose you have all the setting to recreate
strange vapor
Just deploy a full K8S cluster!!! That makes it all easier, and you have the hardware!
dull chasm
ok ....i got started like two days ago
boreal pewter
While I wouldn't really chose k8s I wouldn't even agree to "easier"
I have not yet managed to get all working steps together to migrate my setup to kubernetes
clear ferry
meh, guessing my macvlan does not work, since I cannot see any IP of the container when running docker inspect ID 🤣
dull chasm
all i have is a mini tower 17 with 8 cores ....not like its a server
clear ferry
I'm catching up with you @dull chasm better run!
strange vapor
Well, by the time you have controllers, etcd and something like istio setup, you'll be so disheartened, you won't care about deploying the app!
brisk glen
lol
dull chasm
@clear ferry good then i get help
clear ferry
oh noes....
boreal pewter
@clear ferry docker network ls
docker network inspect NETWORKNAME
dull chasm
i am getting pulled apart from both ends .....getting audio setup right and docker setup right ..... i dont know what to do .....so i drink a 🍺 and 🤔
boreal pewter
I never touched macvlan but at least the network exists 😄
dull chasm
havent i asked enough stupid questions that you should figure out i have no clue what that is
brisk glen
heh I know
dull chasm
🤣
brisk glen
you will in time
clear ferry
@boreal pewter I want just regular passthrough of networking, like regular vms so macvlan is the right choice isn't it ?
boreal pewter
Bridge
dull chasm
@brisk glen oh i think its 8th gen maybe 7th but its unplugged right now
brisk glen
@clear ferry do you want each container to appear as its own pc? bind to certan ports? or act like it is the host?
boreal pewter
With a common bridge network like docker network create -d bridge NAME you can open specific ports via ports: in compose, or connect to the host by binding the service itself within the container to the gateway IP
brisk glen
@dull chasm I just got my mac mini 2018. I really need that 32 GB of ram badly. I cant do crap with 8 GB
dull chasm
mac ....... boo
boreal pewter
In a custom bridge network the containers can also talk to each other in the same network
clear ferry
I want no kind of specialized network config for docker, I just want like a regular vswitch in vmware, where each container gets their own mac address and all network control happens at the perimiter of my network
I was under the impression that was macvlan, I was probably wrong 🤣
dull chasm
i use windows for easy of operation with just browsing and web but all else runs linux
strange vapor
@clear ferry I do that just by setting up a normal linux bridge.
Attach to your main network interface and then tell docker to use it
brisk glen
macos all the way, windows can piss off with its updates
dull chasm
i do think the docker stuff should move to #449717345808547842 getting a little out of #the-water-cooler territory
strange vapor
@clear ferry https://docs.docker.com/v17.09/engine/userguide/networking/default_network/build-bridges/
clear ferry
@strange vapor ❤
brisk glen
@dull chasm but the topic says docker 😛
dull chasm
in docker it does but we are in louge
clear ferry
@dull chasm we should have seperate docker \ esxi \ etc channels, that are not installation methods, wouldn't concidering talking in #449717345808547842 if it wasn't HA related docker 🤔
boreal pewter
I thought so too
brisk glen
we also need a kubernetes
strange vapor
@clear ferry In my case, I've got a bridge per vlan which makes things even handier.
@brisk glen Been playing with https://k3s.io
dull chasm
i have a server and could make those channells but not here
strange vapor
Really handy for quick learning.
brisk glen
still debating on my kube install for the pi 4 with 4 GB of ram
boreal pewter
k3s is in fact more lightweight
YOu only need Containerd and not docker itself to run docker images
brisk glen
indeed
soo many things to decide, soo many things I can do with kube instead of docker
zerotier one might be my networking backbone
clear ferry
I'll definitivly stick with ESXi for now, but I need to learn docker, nice to have on my resumè 🤣
strange vapor
@brisk glen Not always these days, depends on the workload.
clear ferry
yeah, ligher on resources don't bother me, when I install 6TB memory servers at customers 🤣
clear ferry
I have a 192GB 24 core server right now, that I've had for the last 5 years, replacing it with a 32 core \ 512GB probably
strange vapor
@clear ferry can sort you out with a spare Synerygy 12000
I'm sure he has one in his back pocket spare!
clear ferry
I actually have a spare one at the office that we lend out for demos 🤷
clear ferry
only Gen9 servers unfortunatly
strange vapor
gritty jewel
After having been a programmer, then sysadmin and DBA and running an SMB datacenter for 25 years, I gave up overcomplicating things at home. My home server is a Qotom Q1904G with a 250 GB SSD, backing up nightly to another 250 GB SSD, all backed up to Amazon Glacier for about $0.80 per month.
Now I added a raspberry Pi for playing around with Home assistant. We actively avoid voice controlled devices, our phones run alternate loaders that don't enable <random listening stuff> or at least claim not to.
Used to have quite a bit more, and I realized that when I'm home I just don't wanna do that.
Currently in a rental and building a new home (again - we did this 10 years ago or so figuring that was the last new home, but opportunities arose and we took them) so the goal for the new house is an intranet of things, none of which have significant phone home to the mothership activities.