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proven spruce
midnight adder
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@twin dagger I rarely receive something that's broken actually

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had a bootlegged gameboy game or two come in that didn't start up or save but other than that it mostly just works

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i generally don't get stuff that goes on the mains though, other than tuya and xiaomi stuff

orchid rose
midnight adder
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rgb milights are a weird bunch though

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i have one laying around and it doesn't do the full rgb spectrum

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only some odd HSL 80 to 100 thing

orchid rose
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the quality of light is probably not on the level of the better ones, but I use them mostly for accent lighting and I still use halogen lights for my ceiling lighting

midnight adder
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i'm quite fond of yeelight myself

orchid rose
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they are three times the price though iirc?

midnight adder
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ordered one yesterday, 16 bucks for the rgb one

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they're a bit more pricier yeah but the build quality is superb

orchid rose
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not bad. What wattage?

midnight adder
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uh

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lemme look that up for you

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i believe it was somewhere in the ~6W range

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ah, 10W

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for 800 lumens

orchid rose
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for 10W that's really not a bad price. Might get one just to try it out

midnight adder
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color temp between 1700k and 6500k

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the yeelight app is also directly compatible with google assistant so that's cool

orchid rose
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those work with the xiaomi gateway, right?

midnight adder
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they're wifi

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no gateway required

orchid rose
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oh

midnight adder
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don't bother hooking them up to the mijia app though, for some reason they have less functions in that app compared to the yeelight app

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but HA finds them automagically anyways

orchid rose
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let's add that to the basket for now then

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need one light for the closet to work with a door sensor

midnight adder
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I was thinking about getting tradfri stuff yesterday but didn't want to spend 40 bucks on the hub or the hassle of doing it DIY zigbee so I just ended up ordered another yeelight

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tradfri smartplugs are too bulky anyways

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i'm using losonho-branded tuya plugs instead

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I still have to flash them for HA, I should do that today or tomorrow

orchid rose
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I guess the Yeelight color version is RGBW but only either warm white or cool white and not CCT?

midnight adder
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no clue, I only have regular yeelights atm

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my regular yeelights can go from cold to warm tho

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don't see why the rgbw's can't

orchid rose
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the regulars have both cool white and warm white leds while the rgb ones may not have one of them. In that case they would use the RGB leds to form the warm or cool white temperature which isn't as good as having a dedicated led for it

clever mortar
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Yup, having an RGB-CCT strip that's temporarily in RGB mode - RGB faking CCT is underwhelming once you've experienced CCT

mighty summit
light trout
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It is correct so I can not confirm that

mighty summit
light trout
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Mobile?

mighty summit
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nope

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chrome browser on W10

clever mortar
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Disabled here too, but then I've already joined it ๐Ÿ˜„

light trout
mighty summit
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i am logged in

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๐Ÿคท

light trout
mighty summit
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thkyouVM

hushed basalt
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I heard a rumour that AWS glacier uses custom hdds with ultra low power servers

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As in they can't even power up all the drives in a chassis at once

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I wonder if that's trye

untold dust
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@orchid rose cool, I'll check them out :) thanks! ๐Ÿ‘

rain swift
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Wanting to lose some weight, anyone here use a smart watch or fitbit? Trying to decide if I should go full on smart watch or not. Dunno how useful the smart watches are, anyone using HA at all on a smart watch?

orchid rose
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The only thing I can think off that would benefit home automation is presence detection with bluetooth. Maybe if you don't have a voice assistant it would work as one though which some might find useful. For the making you work out part, I've heard from my brother that it does help with that. He has some galaxy gear iirc.

rain swift
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do you know if you can load HA up on the watch? or any talk of a google wear app? lol.

orchid rose
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There's probably some sort of a web browser app for them so maybe it can sort of work. Would setting up a custom UI be possible now with the different users?

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so you'd have one user with only access to the stuff you want to see on your watch? Media controls are probably the ones that I would use

tawny jewel
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Anyone else have a problem with loading the newest version of home assistant and some sensors?

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some of my sensors did not pick back up in the latest update in version 0.91.3

orchid rose
clever mortar
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I use a smart watch @rain swift - no Google Wear app and no HA integration, but having a thing that tracks my exercise and heart rate is useful

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Important thing though - not all smart watches are "moisture" resistant...

midnight adder
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I should get one of those xiaomi smart watch thingies sometime

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just to have another item for the xiaomi collection

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i'd have gotten the electrical scooter if it wasn't fucking banned in my country

pearl plinth
midnight adder
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right now I have the EU 2 pin and by accident also the EU 3 pin

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the EU 2 pin is better because it also measures energy usage

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also rgb leds because why not

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they're branded as lonsonho but are really just tuya

pearl plinth
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Lol, looks cool ๐Ÿ˜ƒ ifttt so, HA should detect automatically after itโ€™s connected to WiFi? Thanks for sharing though, Iโ€™ve bookmarked it. Going on my wish-list lol.

midnight adder
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nah they have to be flashed before HA can play with them

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I still have to do that

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they work great with google assistant tho

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right now i use them for standing lamps because i didn't want to buy 4 smart bulbs for E14 sockets

pearl plinth
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Smart

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Thanks for the github link

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What do you use as heating system at your place?

midnight adder
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nothing

pearl plinth
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I currently use Toon with the contract. I am going to root it soon

midnight adder
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I've considered getting a smart thermostat but I can't justify the price of them when I only use heating for like 3 months in the whole year

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my apartment is on the top floor so I get all my heat from my neighbours below me already

pearl plinth
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Thatโ€™s right. My house is very well isolated. I only use it sometimes in the winter

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I had toon here when I bought the house

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So โ€œluckyโ€ i guess. But I am in love with the nest thermostat

midnight adder
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now if xiaomi started selling a smart thermostat, i'd probably get one

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because i'm a xiaomi whore

pearl plinth
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Hahahahah

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I love their designs and price targets too

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Going to order some Xiaomi Aqaraโ€™s soon

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To monitor the doors and windows

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But not sure whether I should get myself the xiaomi hub too. There is a workaround for it, using a DIY solition

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Thats the only reason why I havent gotten them yet

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Already have a tradfri hub

velvet horizonBOT
midnight adder
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yeah well fuck you too hassbot

dull chasm
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hey watch it please

proven spruce
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my xiaomi list is even longer ๐Ÿ˜„

midnight adder
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oh i also have the xiaomi chopsticks

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i was planning on getting their air purifier 2s but it ran out of stock at the local store as soon as they got them

pearl plinth
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Do you recommend the hub @midnight adder

midnight adder
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it's a bit odd at times and still 100% chinese other than the app but it works fine

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I use it as kitchen nightlight in combination with the motion sensor

pearl plinth
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Cool, I want to do my stairs lighting with motion sensors too

midnight adder
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be sure to get a compact plug adapter with it, it only comes in CN/AUS plug

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the total space between the wall and the gateway is only half a centimeter

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I think my biggest issue with the system is that it shouldn't even be on mains power at all and that I have no clue what it says at times

proven spruce
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those adapters are pretty snazzy... i have the same ones but US to EU only

midnight adder
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yeah I use them for all my non-EU stuff

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their size stops stuff from "sagging" off the wall

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I don't really have that issue a whole lot with chinese stuff because they use 3 pin but the american plug never sits snug in any adapter

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schuko plugs don't have that issue because they're all receded into the wall

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anyways I might buy the xiaomi watercooker and scale next month

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because they look nice

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also because it's a freakin smart enabled watercooker

obsidian grove
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Excuse me if I bother you, but it was irresistible ...

clever mortar
plucky sparrow
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ofc I went through that. Being included in a software or documentation or addon may has some requirements that not every CC variant is compatible with. I mean I like the non-commercial, but is there a need to be compatible for e.g. the documentation which is under apache 2.0?

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@low harness thanks, your link helps, I guess BY-NC-SA is enough since all that stuff there is licensed with it ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

white radish
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Wyze rtsp is available in beta! Iโ€™ll be testing later!

unreal orbit
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Native rtsp? No flashing?

sterile ferry
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I loaded up the wyze ftsp firmware on 2 cameras today

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You canโ€™t get a still image which is the biggest issue with integrating as a generic camera in ha

hushed basalt
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Wooh got my reverse proxy working

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Hopefully it's secure =D

rain swift
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its like all the nics for the docker containers crap out and you have to reboot

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well one nic anyways

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then bam have to reboot the host to be able to get to HA again

clear ferry
dull chasm
velvet horizonBOT
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Tinkerer is away for 1h 23m 5s with a message :point_right: These are not the droids you are looking for

clear ferry
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@dull chasm again I remember why I left end user support 12 years ago ๐Ÿ˜‚

hushed basalt
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@clear ferry lol Arduino led

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I don't think i ever even powered my arduino on

clear ferry
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@hushed basalt i need to convert a project from Arduino to esphome, wonder when I'll have time for that ๐Ÿค”

light trout
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now?

hushed basalt
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Time....

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I haven't even had time to stick a reed switch to my garage door

clear ferry
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@light trout right now I'm keeping a baby sleeping, trying to replant 14 plants and still need to get my ha enabled greenhouse going sometime next week ๐Ÿ˜‚

hushed basalt
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I managed to finally get traefik working though

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Poor documentation is a sin

clear ferry
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And I'm only working 50% but working 150% realtime because I have overtime the days I actually work ๐Ÿ˜‚

hushed basalt
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Also TOML. Screw you TOML

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Traefik is using Toml where they should really be using yaml

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But now I can access my containers from anywhere

clear ferry
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Reminds me.. I need to email three customers today

hushed basalt
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Don't have to give users passwords. Just need to whitelist their emails

clear ferry
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I should outsource some of my ha work to someone, I need an apprentice ๐Ÿ˜‚

light trout
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Look at #330944238910963714 there are probably someone there, call it a learning experience ๐Ÿ˜›

clear ferry
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I heard this guy called ludeeus is quite gullible ๐Ÿ‘€

light trout
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yeah... but he has too much to do allready...

humble pond
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@sterile ferry - FFMPEG camera supports stream too, and doesnโ€™t require a still image URL.

sterile ferry
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Cool will try that!

late gate
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Any suggestions how to make an automation with a sequence of events? I have a remote I want to say run code 1,4,1,4 (something like left, right, left, right), as a "hidden" code to start a timer. any ideas how to wait for sequences like this?

clever mortar
late gate
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honest mistake :p

upper tinsel
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Are there any Zwave (or otherwise smart) tower fans yet? :/

unreal orbit
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Smart tower?

upper tinsel
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The skyscraper in Makati? ๐Ÿ˜†

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Just want a room/tower fan (not ceiling fan) that I can turn on wirelessly/remotely/with HA/etc...

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Would rather not have to use a smartplug or other trickery though =/

limber jungle
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New router and switch

upper tinsel
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wow

modest wasp
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nice. i have some unifi APs at my house. but no switches or gateways. i have an old hp 1810 switch and an older decommissioned desktop from work that I put a dual intel nic and pfsense on.

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I've always wanted a full stack unifi but there are some things that I really like about pfsense

white radish
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pretty annoyed i cant get the firmware flashed on the wyze cameras to save my life

upper tinsel
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Yea... Really sucks they couldn't just add RTSP to the regular firmware..

white radish
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i finally got it. i ended up using a different SD. and then got the old one to work after formating with the actual camera

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the camera doesnt have enough horsepower to run their planned features and rtsp so they had to split the roadmap to serve more customers

hushed basalt
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Anyone got any kubernetes clusters in their homelabs?

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@upper tinsel a fan that has an RF remote could work

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433mhz etc

upper tinsel
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@hushed basalt yea but then I need something that does RF...

hushed basalt
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๐Ÿคท

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Has to be controlled somehow

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And I suspect the market for wifi controlled pedastool fans with an open API is thin

quasi spear
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I hope this isn't completely out of place here, but you're the only people I know I might ask. Are there light switches that can replace my current (dumb) light switches with something "smart" but still "connect" my lights?

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Thing is I have a lot of dumb light switches in my home, I would like to replace those with something that will trigger the lights in HA. Otherwise someone will always switch off the lights at the wall switch and then HA can't reach the hue bulbs

proven spruce
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the thing is... a switch cuts the electricity to your bulb, without electricity your bulb doesnt work. only way is to keep the bulb connected at all times inside the switchbox but install a smart switch which is only powered and control the bulbs with that

quasi spear
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exactly, the problem is the power is being cut when someone uses the dumb-switch. I hoped there was a replacement, which would still connect the lamps so the wiring could stay like it is but whichs switches would issue commands via zwave or whatever

proven spruce
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thats what i told you

quasi spear
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yes, I get that. But currently my understanding is that this approach would require me to mount a new switch in the switchbox, run the wires from the lights to the switch in the switchbox and then replace the wall-switches, correct?

proven spruce
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you use the existing L and N to power the switch and connect L in and L out inside the switchbox

quasi spear
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okay I see what you mean now, yes that should work

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time to invite the electrician over for beer ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

clear ferry
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I could have been a certified electrician, that has to count, multiverse theory and all

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Just give me a beard and call me evil <name here>

quasi spear
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small question about a device, has someone used the "Spirit Z-Wave Plus" Radiator thermostats? I currently have one and it seems to be overshooting the set temperature by quite a margin

orchid rose
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just be ware @quasi spear, some parts of the world (e.g. here in Finland) only have one wire running to the light switches which makes most smart switches incompatible

clear ferry
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Isn't most parts of the world like that? ๐Ÿค” I thought the two line to light was a rarity

orchid rose
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I wouldn't know

clear ferry
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Norway has both, for regular rooms we only do one, for rooms that are wet or outside we do both wires broken at switch

unreal orbit
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In the US switches are single live wire break, but new code requires a neutral to be present in the box

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Not switched, just a passthrough

clear ferry
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That is what we do in regular boxes here

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Older houses have the neutral in a box at the roof of the room normally

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Unless the codes have changed again, it's 19 years since I did training to become an electrician

unreal orbit
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I mean in the switch box itself, it just sits behind the switch

clear ferry
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Yeah, they do that here in newer installs

quasi spear
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yes good point - here in Germany there are lots of installation tasks that you aren't allowed to do yourself (like replacing power outlets) and which have to be done by a qualified professional. So I will have someone check that before burning down our house ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

wintry crow
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Hmmm if I have discord on multiple devices with the same user/pass, will it knock me off my other pc?

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Trying to force myself to use linux only on my evening lappy

light trout
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no

wintry crow
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k thx

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So now I need to log in on one of my work lappies too

light trout
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yup ๐Ÿ‘

wintry crow
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Ubuntu feels a bit childish tho, is there a grown up equivalent? I used to have red hat with enlightenment back in the day which felt quite nice

clever mortar
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Ubuntu... childish... ๐Ÿค”

light trout
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I like Elementary OS

clever mortar
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You do realise that with any Linux distro you can chose the UI

wintry crow
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Yeah, just the whole interface feels a bit like.... a kids netbook

clever mortar
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If you don't like the default, change it, it's just a UI

wintry crow
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Yup I do lol

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Is KDE still a thing?

clever mortar
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Is Google still a thing?

wintry crow
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Hahah

clever mortar
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KDE's no more dead than Gnome

oblique nymph
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Anyone know Javascript that can give me some help on the side?

old fern
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Hey everybody! Iโ€™m looking into getting a WiFi camera but Iโ€™m not sure where to look for cameras that have good/robust custom firmware that doesnโ€™t ping anything outside my network.

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I assume some of you have experience with hacking off-the-shelf cameras ๐Ÿ˜„

untold dust
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KDE looks awesome imo. Using it since the beginning with Opensuse, I really like it

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(since the beginning of me using computers)

torn horizon
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Does anyone uses the linky component here ?

clever mortar
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Damn. Notre-Dame cathedral is on fire ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

unreal orbit
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Has been for a couple hours

torn horizon
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almost ended

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i mean ther is no cathedral anymore

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this is from my office 4 hours ago

shy comet
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is it me or did google home get an update on the voices today? mine suddenly sounds more energetic today

last plaza
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@torn horizon such a horrific incident! So sad!!!!

halcyon magnet
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We don't really have a good place to ask this, but are there any css animations experts that could help troubleshoot a floorplan animation?

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I seem to be completely unable to achieve the desired effect

last plaza
halcyon magnet
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Thanks!

hushed basalt
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@clear ferry most places in Australia are just active switched as well for lights

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Will be a pain in the ass for when I buy a house

tough igloo
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Hey @hushed basalt what do you mean? My house has live neutral and earth, some switches use all three, some use live and neutral.

young sigil
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That is not the case for the majority of Australian wiring.

hushed basalt
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@tough igloo most houses just have the live/active wire coming down to the light switch and back up again

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Saves on copper and assembly time,

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And physical space needed in the cavity

hearty depot
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somebody already tryed to set up a VPN behind Nginx?

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just poking around a little - But most of the users are letting openvpn listen to 443 and then redirecting nonvpn traffic to ngnix.
Other way around would be nice

hushed basalt
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@hearty depot third result on my google search ;)

hearty depot
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well thats the standard one for listening on 443 - I just try that ngnix listen on 443 and riderects the vpn traffic based on the url

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but this is only guessing

hearty depot
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still only gettin unreachable / timeout...

hushed basalt
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Reverse proxies are hard

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I think across the board they're not very intuitive

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Docker compose makes sense to me. You can look at it and see how it works. Same with things like ansible, python, dockerfiles, etc etc

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Proxy syntax though. Yeesh.n

clear ferry
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Apache > nginx ๐Ÿ˜˜

hushed basalt
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I use traefik

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By use I mean I've hacked away at the syntax until it appears to be working

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Stupid stupid toml

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[entryPoints] [entryPoints.http] address = ":80" [entryPoints.http.redirect] entryPoint = "https" [entryPoints.https] address = ":443" [entryPoints.https.tls] snsStrict = true minVersion = "VersionTLS12" cipherSuites = [ "TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384", "TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384", "TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_CHACHA20_POLY1305", "TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_CHACHA20_POLY1305", "TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256", "TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256", "TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA", "TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA" ]
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What a nightmare

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Also because toml doesn't rely on something as filthy as indentation, every header has to have the parent header in it

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So you end up with this

[Parent]
[Parent.child]
[Parent.child.child]
[[Parent.child.child.children]]
[[Parent.child.child.children]]
quasi spear
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actually I think traefik is beautiful, but then I try not to use toml as much as possible

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if you can configure it with container labels its pretty nice to work with (IMO)

hearty depot
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atm quite happy with nginx - because its set up and does his job ๐Ÿคฃ
fuck it - I ll quit this for now - got a headake and not a single step further.. next thing I ll try..
access home network from a remote location via zerotier at least it ll be what I google for

keen flare
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I have just started setting up zerotier and it's scary how useful it is

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I'm afraid I'll get to rely on it too much and something bad will happen

hearty depot
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its realy quite fun - especialy how fast the initial setup is

hushed basalt
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To all the admins out there

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Do you find some people you work with resist modern workflows

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Like think containers are useless, don't care much for automation, IaaC, orchestration, etc etc.

light trout
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Useless no, scary (lack of trust in it) yes

hushed basalt
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I think I'd cry if I had to work in a slow outdated enterprise

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Waterfall development, monolith mainframes, ew

unreal orbit
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What Ludeeus just said is kinda where I'm at with containerization

quasi spear
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yes, containers scare me - as an admin

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IaaC scares the heck out of me

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but its not because of the technology itself but the ecosystems and types of people that voice demands for those things

unreal orbit
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I'm definitely just not comfortable enough with it yet to say "yeah lets stick that in a container and run it in prod"

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Though I guess the point is to develop in containers to begin with

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Which just adds an extra step when starting projects

velvet horizonBOT
tawny pebble
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shit i wrote too much sorry

opal mulch
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Can someone help me understand the elevation.. I live in Tampa which is 48 above sea level would I insert 48?

tawny pebble
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in my message i talked about containers because i work with them. and other stuff. but mostly, there was a questoin about which router to buy. hope someone isn't that lazy to open the link (:

unreal orbit
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I'm not saying containers are bad by any means, I'm just not comfortable enough with them yet

light trout
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Personally I would go with unify, from what I have seen read asbout both that and pfsense it seams more user friendly ๐Ÿ˜›

tawny pebble
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i'm used to pfsense, or i was many years ago.. at home i'm using already a unify AP and a close friend of mine works at Ubiquiti. I'm covered

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yet.. mmh... i too think i should go for unifi

unreal orbit
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I just bought an edge-router and so far I like it. But it's hard to give a review on something I've had for a week

tawny pebble
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true, price talking, the unifi looks great! yeah i just needed motivation. thanks again guys

unreal orbit
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Having a router you can ssh into is nice. I've been stuck with consumer routers up until now

tawny pebble
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ok, my shift just ended. wish you a good afternoon/evening!

quasi spear
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I'm running unifi (!= unify, those are phones) at home in a kinda complex setup, feel free to ask if you want to know something

rain swift
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Anyone know when the next update is coming? Hoping it fixes the docker network issue.

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may have to just reboot my VM every night until they fix it because it seems to happen every day

quasi spear
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There was an update today I believe, at least my container got updated automatically today

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what are the network problems you see? I haven't had any issues so far, but then I'm basically proxying nearly anything

rain swift
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I'm running on virtualbox I downloaded the VMDK from the website and converted it for vbox, it's like the nic for the container just craps out and switches to blocking from what I see in the console and you of course lose access to lovelace and then I have to reboot the vm

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I mean maybe you could restart the container or something but i'm not real familiar with docker so I just bounce the whole vm

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I have heard of others having the same issue.

quasi spear
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hmm, ok cannot say I've seen this - but I run a sizable docker swarm here

rain swift
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I had it once before after an upgrade, but I rebooted the vm and it seemed to never come back, then I had it again after the last upgrade

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the crap part also is when I am remote all I can do is vpn into the network, ssh into the house and reset the vm from the command line

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I'm sure that will lead to some kind of corruption at some point

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ssh into the HOST not house

quasi spear
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so, the network interface on the whole docker-vm craps out?

rain swift
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it seems to be fine, other than the nic because the first time it happened I didn't know what was going on and when I opened my front door the alarm went off so home assistant was obviously still alive in there.

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it just loses connection to the network

quasi spear
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I'm a bit confused, you run virtualbox with a virtual machine and inside this virtual machine you run docker. And in docker you have a homeassistant container, correct?

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I'm asking because if the VM loses connection to the network, it would seem unlikely the docker container within would cause this (not impossible but unlikely).

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That said, homeassistant/home-assistant:latest was updated two hours ago

rain swift
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no, I have a computer running virtualbox, which is running hassIO, so in the vm there are docker containers on hassOS? which is just linux, so home assistant is a docker container inside of a vm.

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its basically running a vm instead of a raspberry pi

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As a virtual appliance:

VMDK (VMWare Workstation)

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but I converted the vmdk to a vdi for vbox

hearty depot
tall pawn
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Thinking about building a mini greenhouse controller using a raspberry pi or arduino... thoughts on using zwave/zigbee plugs for switching on/off appliances (humidifier, heater, fresh air exhange, etc?)

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or I guess sonoff could work

clever mortar
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"Yes"

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Any of those would work

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It comes down to whether you want them pre-packaged, and whether the greenhouse is within range of Z-Wave/Zigbee/WiFi, or you're just going to run a network cable there and run a Pi locally

tall pawn
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would be easier than using relays w/ the pi right?

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wifi connectivity shouldn't be an issue

clever mortar
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Well, more that if you put a Pi in the greenhouse, range isn't an issue

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If you don't, then you may need to chose your tech based upon what's in range

tall pawn
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Iโ€™m thinking a pi with sensors for:

  • humidity -> turns on/off ultrasonic humidifier
  • temperature -> turns on/off exhaust fan & heater
  • CO2 levels -> turns on/off exhaust fan & fresh air pump
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so the pi would need to be attached to/inside the greenhouse for the sensors

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with the smart plugs/appliances there also

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unless i'm missing something, i've never done a pi/arduino project before

clever mortar
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You could get a Z-Wave or Zigbee humidity and temperature sensor

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Almost certainly could get a CO2 sensor in those technologies too

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For Z-Wave where you live will matter since there are regional differences in frequencies, and so what you can buy

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Aeotec do a combined light/temperature/humidity/motion sensor, for example, that runs on USB power

tall pawn
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some of these snsors aren't suitable for greenhouses due to the 80-100% humidity levels

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they're more designed for regular household relative humidity

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but yeah

clever mortar
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Well, yeah, but many things will work in these conditions, and if you've bought cheap Xiaomi Zigbee sensors, you won't care if they only live a year or two ๐Ÿ˜›

tall pawn
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excess humidity on the sensors can cause inaccurate readings, especially for CO2

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hrm, so many options can't decide

hearty depot
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somebody else using Zerotier and haviing access to zerotier-cli Would like to check something ( relayed traffic)

midnight adder
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yay got another aqara switch in the mail today

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shit i got too much switches to do things with now

hearty depot
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ubuntu and raspbian are.. distros.. whats their common name under each oter.. ?

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Debian-based?

clever mortar
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Debian

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But... Wikipedia could have told you that ๐Ÿ˜›

midnight adder
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isn't raspbian just the arm build of debian with some added rpi packages

clever mortar
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So, not Debian ๐Ÿ˜‰

hearty depot
#

care to read over a forum post I just write up?

clever mortar
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๐Ÿคท

midnight adder
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do you pay per letter or per word

hearty depot
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my wife just had to pay an guy for this - I think someting like 120 bucks

clear mirage
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so how many of us on here use our smarthome to mess with people?

unreal orbit
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Amazon is advertising a smart lock that can accept the command "Alexa, unlock my door" as a good thing ๐Ÿคฆ

wintry crow
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What could possibly go wrong...

unreal orbit
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@clear mirage I would imagine we all have at one point or another

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I'm currently working on enabling my toilet to flush via alexa

clear mirage
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@unreal orbit lol, yea last friday my girlfriend came over before i got out of work so i decided to mess with her a little by using the TTS on my chomecast. I wish i had a camera in the house to see the look on her face when went off.

wintry crow
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I annoy my dog by making my home talk to her when I'm up in my office

unreal orbit
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Sometimes I forget my wife is home when I'm testing something remotely

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She texts me to see if I'm doing something to verify that the house is not actually haunted

clear mirage
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Lol. Thats what my gf was saying the last few times she's come over when I'm not home. (She lives out of town)

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hopefully that dosen't cause your WAF factor to go down ๐Ÿ˜œ

unreal orbit
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Hah not at all. She supports all the automations completely. Hell she's the reason we bought half the devices that are in my setup

clear mirage
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@unreal orbit that's nice. back in november i purchased my first house, 1400sqft colonial, 3 bed 2.5 bath. anyway the previous owners had installed a nest thermostat, and a MyQ garage door from Chamberlain. and that's what gave me the smarthome bug, then i discovered HA, and down the rabbit hole i went.

unreal orbit
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My journey really started with our vacuum, but I have had a few tplink smart switches for a couple years

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I also have a myQ chamberlain, but that was just a happy coincidence at the time

wintry crow
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That sounds really sordid and wrong

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"My journey started with our vaccuum"...

clear mirage
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Yea thats how i was with the nest and the myq. the fun part with the myq was when i was trying to get it set up for me, little did i know it was still paired to the previous owners account.

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that was a fun night on the phone with Chamberlain for about half hour in about 20 F weather..

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thankfully though Chamberlin's call center is US-based so you can actually understand the person on the other end.

clever mortar
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Please read the channel topics @pure estuary

pure estuary
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opss my mistake

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didnt mean to write here

rain swift
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got the update, I see the supervisor got updated too, maybe the nic on my HA docker container won't crap out now

lofty atlas
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Anyone ordered a pizza with the dominos component?

rain swift
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haha, nope

valid halo
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myQ

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as in the MyQ garage opener?

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I tried that out and found it meh to the extreme

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it never wanted to connect to my gosh dang Wi-Fi

rain swift
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boooo

valid halo
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It was hella dope when it worked

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autoinput+autovoice meant "Open the Garage" opened my fucking garage. Like it was the far off future of 2002 man

unreal orbit
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The distant future, the year 2000 ๐Ÿค–

valid halo
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Hey guys I just got my X-10 set up on my IBM PC! The future is now!

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I honestly would consider using an X-10 if it wasn't for the whole "makes LED bulbs flicker weirdly"

unreal orbit
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There are a few people that still use it

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It integrates into HA

valid halo
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Yeah I saw...LGR's video on it

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It does have 0 cloud service. So It's got a plus in my book

unreal orbit
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Lots of platforms have that ๐Ÿ˜‰

valid halo
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At the moment I'm...WeMo, RIng,Tuya,Tile, Alexa. I'm 4/5th's cloud service dependent

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only my WeMo offers local control

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for all my bluster and posts on /r/homeautomation. I am a failure in my ideals

unreal orbit
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Tuya you could convert

valid halo
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Yeah I've heard of Tuya Convert. I think my Lightbulb is supported.

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I'm just waffling on buying the kit

unreal orbit
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Kit? I wasn't aware it required extra hardware

valid halo
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Hmmm

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checking the docs you have a point. it looks like I could use this on a Kali Linux VM on my normal PC.

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I need to slow down sometimes

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I see RasPi and I go "Aw dang."

unreal orbit
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Yeah I flash from my Windows PC for my sonoff stuff

lofty atlas
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I found a copy of my floor plan online I'm going to try @slim vortex floor plan tutorial.

rain swift
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nice

lofty atlas
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I hope not much has changed since he made the video.

rain swift
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not much changed
home assistant
D:

valid halo
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home assistant seems to change month to month

slim vortex
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@lofty atlas I would suggest using the Lovelace floor plan video not the older HA Floorplan.

lofty atlas
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I'll find the Lovelace one

slim vortex
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Actually @valid halo itโ€™s more like twice a month. Execpt they may be spacing out the releases a little in the future.

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Ya, I would bet that one (HA Floorplan) has changed a lot.

lofty atlas
slim vortex
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I think I did one about the Lovelace picture method using sweethome3D

lofty atlas
rain swift
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Dr Zzs is in the houusseee

unreal orbit
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Amazon changed the ad to "Alexa, lock my door" now ๐Ÿคฃ

lofty atlas
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It works, all of it even my harmony scripts. Amazing. The floorplan install isn't that bad actually.

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Thank you, Drzzs and Petar Kozul

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Now I need to hack my google home hub to display that page

limber jungle
quasi spear
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beautiful

quartz ether
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Give me your USG4

ionic rune
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I dont work with wikis much... Please... How do I nicely format a section of yaml configuration in a post on the community forum pages

proven spruce
ionic rune
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ah... thanks mate... I did search but musta used bad terms

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got there... eventually... used the wrong apostrophe first go... second attempt, apostrophe catastrophe averted.

weary sequoia
#

I think i just grilled my bell while tinkering with it... Now back to the roots: knocking on the door

proven spruce
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no school like oldschool

quasi spear
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don't worry, I just fried the solenoid on my door this week - things happen ^^

valid halo
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๐Ÿ˜…

brisk glen
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@frigid horizon - "--entrypoints=Name:http Address::80 Redirect.EntryPoint:https" - "--entrypoints=Name:https Address::443 TLS" - "--defaultentrypoints=http,https"

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if you are using cloudflare.... then https redirect on there

frigid horizon
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true.

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I'm not running it in docker ๐Ÿคท

brisk glen
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I wrote a traefik file config for one of my clients a week ago, I know it works... if you paste your config with sensitive info retracted I can fix it

frigid horizon
obtuse niche
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hey guys... no new release today?

low harness
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nah

clever mortar
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I think they're moving to a 3 week cycle about now, but nothing announced yet

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(or possibly monthly - there's been a lot of chatter)

brisk glen
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@frigid horizon is [http] v2.0 ?

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I am assuming so

unreal orbit
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A 2 week release cycle was a bit bananas imo

brisk glen
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no idea about 2.0 syntax, I haven't bothered to learn it as I expect the config syntax to change till traefik 2 hits beta

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@frigid horizon you should not need a middleware to redirect to https

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just let it go through the default http entry point

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the default entry point will redirect to https

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Sadly I can not write you a config for v2 as I have no idea how these new syntax changes work yet

clear mirage
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Anyone have any suggestions on smart door locks? I currently have a bluetooth Trubolt Inifinty deadbolt but I'm looking to replace it with something that is more HA freindly

frigid horizon
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@brisk glen no worries mate.

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@clear mirage You're best off looking at the components for locks and working from there.

brisk glen
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might drop traefik anyways for nginx once I am migrating to kube

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I am done with the docker swarm mess

frigid horizon
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me too but only out of ease for some things

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some stuff just straight up isn't documented.

brisk glen
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@frigid horizon like what?

frigid horizon
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Like passing through headers, for example CF-Connecting-IP

brisk glen
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err thats 2.0

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@frigid horizon it looks like you might not be able to do that

frigid horizon
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exactly.

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If im brutally honest it's a pretty "simple" feature really. any reverse proxy should be able to do that.

brisk glen
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with my move to kube, I can just use the nginx ingress plugin and call it a day

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kube does what traefik does for docker

clear mirage
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@frigid horizon thanks

sacred hornet
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anyone having issues with google assistant?

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and html5 notifications?

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im getting a 403 error

clever mortar
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from?

sacred hornet
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in HassIO

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ill post my log below

clever mortar
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Assuming you're paying attention to the channel topics ๐Ÿ˜‰

sacred hornet
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i wasnt sure, since i thought it would be generic to HASS itself

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๐Ÿ˜›

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but thank you @clever mortar ๐Ÿ˜„

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i have much to learn from you, master

clever mortar
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I have much to learn from me too ๐Ÿ˜›

unreal orbit
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Like how to read channel topics mindblown

clever mortar
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Reading is hard

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Comprehension is harder ๐Ÿ˜›

unreal orbit
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Typing is had too

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๐Ÿ˜‰

clever mortar
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(spelling, yeah, let's just not)

unreal orbit
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I'm just reading it in a Boston accent

sacred hornet
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reading is easy, understanding is hard as nuts

vague ginkgo
#

Has anyone looked at the new Sonoff yet? The Sonoff BasicR3?

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has a REST api on stock firmware?

#

Was just about to go buy a couple sonoffs basics and saw this new option.

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It shows on the page the Home Assistant logo, but I don't see any information about how I'd integrate it with HA.

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just noticed this: Note: This is a pre-sale product. It will be delivered on May 5th and the DIY mode will be available in middle May.

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I guess it's still too early to see. I'll hold off

leaden adder
#

If there is a CE logo on my mi flora sensor, is a sign that itโ€™s the international version and not the Chinese-only?

plucky badge
#

How's things peeps? Quick q I hope. There used to be a cog when you clicked on an entity in the UI that let you rename it and change the entity id. I don't see that anymore...it seems the only want change the entity name is to go through the Entity Registry which makes it hard to match entity ids to actual zwave devices, etc. or am I missing something obvious?

valid halo
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let me check my HA and see if I can figure it out

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It would appear you are correct as far as I can tell

plucky badge
#

Someone in the forums answered that it's a bug and will hopefully be fixed in .92.

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I'm about to start my second bourbon. Maybe I shouldn't be troubleshooting tonight lol

#

Another issue that anyone using geofency might be able to help with. I've set up the Geofency integration and set the webook address in the app but I'm still getting an unregistered webook entry in the log and my location isn't being updated for the device. Nor does the device register in the known_devices.yaml.

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There was a bug that said you still required the geofency: component in configuration yaml even though it was configured through integrations but it doesn't matter whether the component is specified or not it still complains about the unregistered webhook

valid halo
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YES!

#

I published my first MQTT message

odd mason
#

So I picked up 10 10TB drives a couple days ago when they were on sale for $145

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Lol

#

I think I'm good for storage for the next 10 years

unreal orbit
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Hard drives? 10 years? We'll see ๐Ÿ˜‰

last plaza
#

@odd mason 10 of those 10TB drives? crazy!!!

#

are you running a data center at home?

odd mason
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@last plaza sort of lol

#

Have nextcloud set up and getting away from Google/Amazon/Dropbox for file storage

last plaza
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cool!

odd mason
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2 of those drives will be for parity in a zfs raid. Probably another 2 for backup

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Rest for actual storage

last plaza
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awesome!! keep me posted if you see deals like those... I want t build another NAS

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lol

hidden finch
#

no really good place to ask this but....anyone in here able to get windy.com to render properly in google chrome on linux?

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firefox is fine

last plaza
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you might want to hit F12 and refresh the screen

hidden finch
#

bunch of errors about "canvas has been tainted by cross-origin data" in chrome

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ive tried this with all extensions disabled and same problem

last plaza
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I hate to say this, but google is your best friend! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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I use Doppler weather image, it works well on both firefox and chrome

hidden finch
#

google has been making me want to ditch chrome lately

unreal orbit
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This is the first time I've ever heard of someone having an issue in chrome and not in firefox

hidden finch
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i dont believe you

unreal orbit
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Not really sure why I'd lie about that, but k

last plaza
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lol

sharp socket
#

Hi all, new here, witha quick question. Does anyone know if you can push sensor values to a Google Home HUb

last plaza
#

I think he is saying your research is wrong ๐Ÿ˜›

plucky badge
#

gaw, anyone else have the IOS component and location services working on .91.4?

#

so much broken ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

tall pawn
#

Any Raspberry Pi users here? I'm a complete noob when it comes to hardware and could use some guidance. I'm want to build something simple but clean to control temperature, humidity, and CO2 levels in an indoor greenhouse (growing oyster, shiitake, etc. mushrooms). I was thinking I could use a Pi w/ attached sensors to read the variables and then send signals to a smart power strip to turn on individual components (heater, humidifier, fresh air exchange, etc.).

Does that sound logical? My question when it comes to the hardware/Pi part is how do I build something like this while keeping the circuits away from the excess temperature and humidity (75-85F & 80-100% RH). Most of these blogs/tutorials I see use something like the DHT22 temp & humidity sensor which doesnโ€™t look easy to run and mount into a room while keeping it safe from the moisture. Same thing for these CO2 sensors (https://tinkersphere.com/2363-thickbox_default/carbon-dioxide-co2-sensor-arduino-raspberry-pi-compatible.jpg) Am I missing something?

dull chasm
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i have a pi that runs a fishtank and it is directly above the tank only seperated by a piece of plywood.... my suggestion would be to put the pi in proper juction box and mount ehe sensor on the outside.......have spares to replace as necessary because they will fail with 100 humdity at some point .........ds1820b are great for temps but dont provide humidty

tall pawn
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CO2 sensors are more expensive at $50-150 so I'm not too fond of the idea of replacing them frequently lol

dull chasm
#

oh shit i have fooled with them

tall pawn
#

I was just wondering what standard practice is for these types of Pi controllers. Surely there has to be a good way to mount sensors?

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that one I linked has the circuit board attached right to it... can't imagine it would last that long?

dull chasm
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is co2 ok with reading with fans

tall pawn
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what do you mean?

dull chasm
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so if your jb had evaculation fans to lower humidity

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would co2 stil be accurate

tall pawn
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hm, well I want CO2 levels in the tent

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because mushrooms don't like too much CO2

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so I figured I would have a fan that can pump fresh air into the tent, and one that could pull air out

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effectively lowering CO2

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that fresh air pump would run through a water bucket with ultrasonic humidifier disks, so I would turn on fresh air pump and humidifier if i need to raise humidity

dull chasm
#

understand if the co2 sensor was inside the junction box and the juction box box had fans that removed humidty would the co2 still be accurate

tall pawn
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oh so you're saying regular the humidity inside the pi box that sits inside the greenhouse?

dull chasm
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yep

tall pawn
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and if I do that to protect the pi, would the CO2 levels be accurate with the different humidity

dull chasm
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yes

tall pawn
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I'm not sure, but I'd imagine having the sensor inside the box would vary it a bit, pumping air in/out of the tent I don't know how long it would take for co2 levels to "stabilize" throughout

dull chasm
#

but would it give you a value that is still usable and linear

tall pawn
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good question I wish I had the answer to lol

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maybe just have to find waterproof sensors

dull chasm
#

well just find out if co2 is based on humidy

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if not your golden

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maybe not based but affected

tall pawn
#

Thanks... if anyone else has experience with sensors and pi lemme know ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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will look into waterproof sensors also

dull chasm
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i have a humidy sensor/temp dht and a ds1820b along with serial communition to a pi

tall pawn
#

something like this seems like it might be better? I could run it anywhere in the tent and keep the PI outside of the tent

lofty atlas
#

Anyone know a good tutorial on tying my light color to the weather?

lofty atlas
#

Are there any upgrades for the built in voice assistant?

valid halo
#

I'm trying out something on that regard enchanted.

#

the weather thing

#

Mmmmm

#

I feel like I can't set up a simple "IF State=THIS do that automation"

lofty atlas
#

I'm sure there's a good tutorial on it somewhere but find it.

valid halo
#

Node-Red to the rescue again

languid turret
#

Well, its been about a year since I tried to use home assistant (school killed that fast) anything I should no going back in this summer?

clever mortar
#

A lot has changed @languid turret, you won't be starting from scratch, but don't assume your old experience will match your new one

#

It's still Home Assistant, and it still (mostly) uses YAML. The UI is different, there's a huge number of new components and features, there's a few components that have gone (like where the service they used went away), and a bunch of things that have changed a bit.

languid turret
#

I suspect I'll still have to do some shenanigans to get around my apartment wifi, but the new ui and setup looks much better.

clever mortar
#

Well, as long as you're not connecting Home Assistant to WiFi you should be ok

languid turret
#

Sadly that is my only choice... There is no wired internet here...

clever mortar
#

You don't even have a modem/router?

#

Just WiFi from "the building"?

languid turret
#

Last time I was running a reverse SSH tunnel to an AWS instance to get a fixed ip.

#

Yes... It's a pain...

#

I've been looking into the possibility of Wi-Fi repeating, but I haven't found any definite solution yet.

#

It doesn't help that my setup relies heavily on mqtt, hue, and Mycroft.

#

The Wi-Fi even blocks direct ssh in network.

clever mortar
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If I thought it was an option, I'd suggest moving ๐Ÿ˜‰

languid turret
#

Sadly the dorms are even worse.

clear ferry
#

I'm so glad I've been in control of every internet connection I've had for the last 25 years ๐Ÿ˜‚

light trout
#

@clear ferry You know VMWare, how is this possible when all VM's are powered down?

clear ferry
#

@light trout have you refreshed? What does esxtop say ?

light trout
#

Did refresh after about 30 mins after turning them all off.
did a reboot (since you took more then 10 sec to answer) and it went back down to 2%

clear ferry
#

Lol, check esxtop next time ๐Ÿ˜‚

light trout
#

if I remember

clear ferry
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@light trout __ask me again next time, and wait more than ten seconds __

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๐Ÿ˜˜ hitorthink

light trout
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Don't have time for that, my plex server was offline ๐Ÿ˜›

clear ferry
#

I don't have time for that JIBBA JABBA timlol

light trout
#

yeah yeah yeah.
I have 3 VM's, not demanding that much ๐Ÿ˜›

clear ferry
#

You need to up those numbers, those are rookie numbers ๐Ÿ˜š

light trout
#

My plan is to lower it ๐Ÿ˜‰

#

Most my stuff are "in the cloud" on various VPS running docker ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

clear ferry
#

Cloud ๐Ÿ˜ด๐Ÿ˜ด๐Ÿ˜ด๐Ÿ˜ด

light trout
#

@obsidian grove want to make a beta fix? ๐Ÿ˜„

obsidian grove
#

custom components only... no local test available

light trout
#

aiit, Ill do it myself then ๐Ÿ˜„

obsidian grove
#

sorry! ๐Ÿ˜œ

rugged crypt
#

any recommendations for a zigbee usb stick that works well and is cheap?

clever mortar
#

Depends too on which Zigbee integration you're looking at

rugged crypt
#

i want to swap my 433mhz sensors out

#

since i am a ham and i do a good amount of experiments around that freq

#

the 433 sensors also suck with harmonics

#

so they trip some of my satellite uhf receivers sometimes, even the phone rig

#

chinesium shit filtering

light trout
#

@clear ferry Last time I updated it I resintalled, (running 6.5.0 now) is there a "good" way to update?

clear ferry
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If you don't have vum just boot off a newer iso and select upgrade during the installation process
It will detect the already installed and suggest an upgrade

light trout
#

vum?

clear ferry
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VMware update manager, part of vcenter these days

light trout
#

yeah, no vcenter here ๐Ÿ˜›

clear ferry
#

I usually just make the iso bootable on usb via Rufus or unetbootin and boot off that for single site installations without vcenter

#

6.7u2 is probably out next week though

light trout
#

next week I don't have time ๐Ÿคฃ

clear ferry
#

I'm going to Trondheim next week ๐Ÿ‘†

light trout
#

Could be worse ๐Ÿ˜›

clear ferry
#

Indeed, but somebody has to install Norways new HPC ๐Ÿ˜‚ only one day though, so it will be more for getting to know it as I probably has to do most of the maintenance on it ๐Ÿ˜‚

light trout
#

we are screwd

clear ferry
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You've been for 12 years, but atleast all the hpc I work with actually work, unlike the one Lenovo installed in Tromsรธ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚

light trout
#

Did that ever work properly?
I remember reading a lot about it some time ago

clear ferry
#

nope

light trout
#

๐Ÿ’ฏ

clear ferry
#

sucked from day one

#

unlike our solution they skipped because it was 5% more expensive ๐Ÿท

light trout
#

5% in this scale is a lot of $

clever mortar
#

And probably that's cost them more than the 5% difference already ๐Ÿ˜‰

light trout
#

yeah but that is a seperate table in the buget ๐Ÿ˜›

clever mortar
#

Yup

#

Like contractor vs staff, where staff budget is limited, and contractor isn't

#

Smart firms care about the total, petty empires don't

clear ferry
#

well, it hasn't worked for 3 years

#

so basically it cost them every penny, and no gain :p

light trout
#

experience gained ๐Ÿ˜‰

clear ferry
#

I installed the last one 11 years ago, and it is still working as the secondary (or actually primary ๐Ÿ˜† ) hpc :p

light trout
#

no more ibm ๐Ÿ˜›

clear ferry
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don't mix up a company that sells random reengineered american hardware with chinese labor with a company that only sells propiatary mainframes that noone should be using after 1988 ๐Ÿคท

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;-)

light trout
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well, in the mind of goverment workers lenovo is ibm

clever mortar
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Depends on which Government

light trout
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norway xD

clever mortar
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Yeah, UK gov is fully aware that Lenovo != IBM ๐Ÿ˜›

clear ferry
#

I actually haven't seen a customer running lenovo servers ever, and I have a lot of government multivendor customers, but their team up with netapp probably will gain them some ground, yet another product that should have been retired 20 years ago

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brb, active passive SAN, here we come 2003 :p

unreal orbit
#

I get to start out my morning with accidently killing my home server while at work. I can tell it's gonna be a good day โ˜•

clear ferry
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haha, been there done that like.... a million times the last 25 years @unreal orbit like compiling a new kernel while out of town in 99, and forgetting to include the network drivers ๐Ÿคฆ

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remember it fondly because I had some downloads going during the night, because surfing was free at night, and I missed like 4 nights of downloads ๐Ÿ˜ข

unreal orbit
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My case is not that dire. I just forgot -r after sudo shutdown ๐Ÿ˜”

clear ferry
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haha, I never run shutdown on linux though

unreal orbit
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hopefully

clear ferry
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I always run reboot

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on unix I have to run shutdown -r though, but then I usually have a OOB anyway

unreal orbit
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I have had this weird bug with this machine that makes it so it can't be shutoff while plugged in. It reboots no matter what

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So I'm not sure what's going on

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But I get a whole 8 hours to think about what I've done

clear ferry
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sounds like a bios setting like "restore power" whenever or something

clever mortar
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Mine won't reboot, the BIOS won't find the RAM. Power cycle, even by tapping the reset button, and it works fine ๐Ÿคท

unreal orbit
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Possibly. I honestly don't think I've spent more than 10 seconds in the bios of this machine

clear ferry
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You all need to get some better servers, this sounds like an episode of "I have the strangest hardware issues ever" ๐Ÿคฃ

unreal orbit
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I very much hope that's all I need @clever mortar . Once the wife wakes up I'm going to have her try

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If not then I'm going to have to manually unlock my front door and turn on lights ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

clever mortar
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@clear ferry The "joys" of first generation of a motherboard. The RAM is to the defined specs, but not on their supported list - at release time you could only buy supported RAM in Taiwan ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Thankfully, IPMI, so I can get to the console from anywhere I can reach the network ๐Ÿ˜„

clear ferry
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what the frack, who is the produser of the MB ? ๐Ÿคฃ

clever mortar
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ASRockRack

clear ferry
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Oh, I have very little experience with them, I have ASRock in my freenas box though

clever mortar
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It was, admittedly, less than 50% of what a SuperMicro would have cost me ๐Ÿ˜‰

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The Rack ones are the server end of their market

clear ferry
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I work too much in enterprise that i never see the homebrew stuff anymore, interesting though need to check them out as I am very happy with the one in my freenas

clever mortar
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And, probably a firmware upgrade would fix it, but I reboot once or twice a year at most

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I love it, to be honest, the IPMI is no fuss, and the system is solid

clear ferry
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IPMI is always nice, it ain't iLO but it works

clever mortar
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HP spit

clear ferry
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HPE. please ;-)

clever mortar
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Still ๐Ÿ˜›

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Oh, your server is 1 second out of warranty and you want a firmware upgrade. That'll be a kidney please.

clear ferry
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Pff, Everybody except Dell does the same, and if you don't keep it on warranty it ain't critical imo ๐Ÿ˜› as long as you have a single HPE server on warranty you can get the firmware for any server in that range ๐Ÿ˜†

clever mortar
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Dell, and Sun before them, spoiled me ๐Ÿ˜‰

regal frost
#

Hey guys, got a quick question. thoughts on installing HA on a esxi VM(ubuntu or centos) vs running on a raspberry pi? the research i have seen has said that if you want to build out your HA that the rpi will become slow over time with a lot of automations and such. just wondering everyone thoughts here, i kinda want to future proof it so i wont have to migrate down the road. also wondering if i am losing any features or compatibilities going one way over the other. thanks in advance. still new to this.

clear ferry
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dell ๐Ÿคข but sun ๐Ÿ˜„

clever mortar
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Bigger hardware === better

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Dell is fine, and I've had less trouble with Dell than HP

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In terms of features, the only thing the Pi brings is GPIO pins

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If you've got "real" hardware, and it's stable, use it

regal frost
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have a google search appliance im running, essentially a dell server rebranded

clever mortar
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Yeah, I know some folks "play" too much with their system and use a Pi for the separation it brings

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If you're not regularly bouncing the host, IMO it's a better long term choice

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That said, 2.5 years on a Pi3 and only now beginning to plan a migration

regal frost
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i have good uptime on the host. otherwise people complain when my plex isnt up LOL

light trout
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@clear ferry Just upgraded to 6.7.0 U2 using esxcli ๐Ÿ‘

unreal orbit
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I think I'll put my server on a sonoff now so I can powercycle remotely

vast dove
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Thatโ€™s fun until you ask google or Siri to turn off all devices and it includes your server ๐Ÿ˜›

unreal orbit
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I wasn't planning on exposing that one to HA ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Plus it wouldn't work with my server off ๐Ÿคฃ

valid halo
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"ALEXA! TURN OFF EVERYTHING! > : (" -entire house goes black-

clear ferry
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@light trout aye, you can do that with the offline bundle too, hardly ever do that so forgot to mention the option ๐Ÿ˜‚

light trout
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Was super easy and since everything was over ssh, i didn't have to move ๐Ÿ˜„

unreal orbit
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@valid halo basically happened to me last night. My wife hit the "goodnight" button while I was doing laundry

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Had to feel my way back inside before I could shout at Alexa

valid halo
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Set up a custom routine for "ALEXA UNFUCK THIS!" that turns the lights back on.

light trout
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I guess it's my fault for upgrading something that worked... ๐Ÿ™„

Apr 18 17:14:42 plex sh[569]: IOError: [Errno 30] Read-only file system
valid halo
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Schweet

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I got my IP Cam able to snap shot

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now to duct tape this bad boy to my wall

humble pond
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... thatโ€™s one way to do it ๐Ÿ˜‚

clear ferry
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@light trout probably a bug, or user error cough

light trout
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defenitly the user ๐Ÿ˜‰

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can you create snapshots with exicli?
And can you do that as a cron job? ๐Ÿ˜›

clear ferry
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Yes, and not with Cron on esx,but just make a SSH script that does it

light trout
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meh..

clear ferry
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But take a look at veeam community edition, I run that and place the backup on my freenas, daily backup of my most important VMs, and easy file level rollback

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Up to 10 vms can be backed up for free

light trout
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Last I checked it would not work with ESXi free eddition

clear ferry
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It does not? I did not know, but I don't see why not I can try it it my nested esxi lab

light trout
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Send me a link if you figure out something ๐Ÿ˜„

hearty depot
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Somebody more expirienced could tell me something bout rsa-keys?
Is it possible to use both, Password and Key auth?
I try to auth me with my RSA key - but nothing realy happens

unreal orbit
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Auth where? Github?

clever mortar
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For SSH, yes

hearty depot
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Ubuntu

clever mortar
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Did you copy the public key to .ssh/authorized_keys on the remote host?

hearty depot
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well.. With ssh-copy-id

unreal orbit
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And what was the output?

hearty depot
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looked good - surce of keys to be installed, attempting, asking for the passphrase & so on

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used the copy again and All keys were skipped because they already exist on the remote system.

unreal orbit
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But when you ssh again it still asks for password?

clever mortar
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Check the contents of .ssh/authorized_keys

hearty depot
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jup - Not at home - so disabeling the pw aut without checking that the keys are working isnt yet the best idea ๐Ÿ˜…
authorized_keys are present ant the content also looking good - did also a reload of the ssh service

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could it be the -b 4096or the -C flag?.. :๐Ÿ˜–

clever mortar
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For what?

hearty depot
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while generating the keys -C for comments

clever mortar
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You could just use ssh-keygen

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However, check the SSH log on the server

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It'll tell you more

hearty depot
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what I did - the complete command I 'd run was ssh-keygen -t rsa -b 4096 -f ~/.ssh/sshv1.key -C "created with the chrx2"

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ll d that - thx

clever mortar
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Ah, are you specifying that key when connecting?

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ssh -i ~/.ssh/sshv1.key ...

hearty depot
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aaaaahhh.. Nope!

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Fuuuuuu Thanks - Did read the wrong manuals then

clever mortar
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Have a look at the support for config files too

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You can tell it to use a specific key for certain hosts

hearty depot
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aaaaawwww - Finaly - the first connection - Did try around for the last 3 hours ๐Ÿคฆ Thanks again ๐Ÿคฆ ๐Ÿคฆ ๐Ÿคฆ

clever mortar
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Now you know something more

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๐Ÿ˜‰

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Also, ssh -v is very useful for this kind of debugging FYI

hearty depot
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uuh neat - just saw the -v computerphile cannel!
aaww - linux is getting better and better - first bashrc and now ssh config โค

light trout
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the best part is ctrl + r

clever mortar
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And other magic for history replacements

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Then you discover that there's more to shells than bash ๐Ÿ˜›

unreal orbit
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Server is up and running again. Panic attack over

hearty depot
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aaaah ctrl + r is fun and games - Did'nt yet understood how to scroll in there. Still in the stage of extensive pressing the up key

lofty atlas
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adguard or pihole?

hearty depot
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adguard because tls://1.1.1.1

sharp spire
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How come this discord server doesn't allow changing nicks?

clever mortar
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Not sure, I can ask the brain trust if you really want, or I can change your name

sharp spire
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can you change me to kbickar?

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want to match my github username

clever mortar
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Done

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Any new posts you make will have kbickar

sharp spire
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thanks

clever mortar
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No worries

dull chasm
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#fakenews @clever mortar

clever mortar
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#beernews @dull chasm

light trout
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Did someone say ๐Ÿบ ?:D

dull chasm
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yep

clever mortar
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I may have bypassed ๐Ÿป and gone direct to ๐Ÿฅƒ

valid halo
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I just found out Node-Red has a DashBoard.

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Now I can have TWO hubs. Node-Red and HA

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and they can FIGHT for DOMINANCE!

lofty atlas
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Is there any way to trigger the voice assistant by voice?

clever mortar
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What?

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The only way to "trigger" a voice assistant is, by definition, by voice...

unreal orbit
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I think they mean the HA one

valid halo
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Hmmmm

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from my reading of the docs

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the Conversation component is currently only triggered via a button

valid halo
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also hells yeah

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Got my motion sensing snapshot taking working.

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Turns out Node-Red is a lot faster than HA

lofty atlas
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Yea sorry, I meant the HA voice assistant.

clever mortar
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Short answer, no

unreal orbit
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Even thinking about that implementation sounds like a nightmare. People would be crying "DATA COLLECTION" when they realize it has to always be listening for a wake word

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Like they already do with every other voice assistant...

clever mortar
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Yup

lofty atlas
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Yea but That's why I want it, I rather it be me collecting my data lol

valid halo
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Wait a minute If you run at locally doesn't that mean you can just wipe the data after recognizes the waking word And finish it doing the command

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Man STT needs work still

lofty atlas
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Yep

valid halo
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Also I just got Bluetooth dongle installed on my PC ๐Ÿ˜„

wet raptor
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@slim vortex ignore the part where i fucked it up trying to get straight.

slim vortex
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Awesome!

valid halo
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Nice Sticker. Oh hey I watched one of your videos today I think.

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Small world.

analog hamlet
#

Hey everyone - anyone have recommendations on physical buttons to use with home assistant that donโ€™t require buying a separate hub?

clever mortar
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If you can get a hold of an Amazon Dash button, those work

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Otherwise, Zigbee and Z-Wave devices require a controller but not necessarily a hub

clear ferry
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I am Very happy with the feature to price ratio of the Xiaomi buttons, they have multiple versions

lofty atlas
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Hi, my name is Paul and I'm an addict.

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I can't stop automating things. My family keeps telling me to stop and I want to... but

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Yeah..

clear ferry
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@lofty atlas story of all our lives, we should have some kind of chip system like AA, one month without automating or smartifying something

midnight adder
#

What is the automation you guys are most proud of?

light trout
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echo "Hello World"
valid halo
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Alexa saying "Welcome Home Doctor Mod" once I'm home

proven spruce
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Randomized doorbell announcements

valid halo
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oooooh

orchid rose
#

Silliest one I have is probably the sauna automation that announces in my native language, that it's ready, turns on mood lighting and relaxing music. Surprisingly some of the most useful ones are turning dumb devices in to smart ones, like having my old receiver in the bedroom turn on when there's something playing on the chromecast audio connected to it and then off automatically afterwards.

young sigil
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Turning all the lights in the house on red when I say" Hey Siri turn on murder" usually goes down a treat at parties. The other useless one I like is the sunset green flash simulation my lounge lamp does. For practicality, switching everything off when I get in bed is great.

orchid rose
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I still need to do the bed occupancy sensor

valid halo
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Okay I think I can start writing my Tasker BT presence detection.

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Feels good

odd mason
#

It's a similar deal to what I got but for some reason these only come with a 2 year warranty vs the 3 year for the 10TB My Book drives. Still a good deal

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Apparently you can get them for even cheaper on Google Express with code APRSAVE19

last plaza
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@odd mason awesome, thank you! Will take a look!

vast dove
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Those have the wd red disks inside i believe

proven spruce
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should be wd red or wd white

young sigil
vast dove
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I saw a post the other day stating it was wd red

orchid rose
#

very loud drives though, I have the 8TB on my desk and I need to get some cables to get it in to a closet somewhere

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lots of vibration noise as well as seeking. From what I read that's just something you have to get used to with the helium drives

vast dove
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Rip the drive out and put it in a server :p

orchid rose
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I don't have one unfortunately, just the router it's connected to

clear ferry
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Nice price for those drives, I need 4 new ones, but cheapest in Norway has been like 250usd for 8tb ones

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Maybe do a quick flight to the us, I will come out on top on expenses anyway, a round trip flight is like 200 usd

last plaza
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I prefer the NAS drives - but they usually end up on pricey

orchid rose
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I got my 8TB external from amazon.de for 165โ‚ฌ couple of months ago

last plaza
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neat!

analog hamlet
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@clever mortar I just saw an article that amazon is discontinuing the dash buttons though?

velvet horizonBOT
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Tinkerer is away for 1h 41m 8s with a message :point_right: โ€œWe'll be saying a big hello to all intelligent lifeforms everywhere and to everyone else out there, the secret is to bang the rocks together, guys.โ€ โ€• Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

analog hamlet
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Currently using nest secure but unhappy that I cant integrate with home assistant... Thinking about taking the plunge into z-wave... anyone have recommendations of good security systems that integrate with HA well?

clear ferry
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@analog hamlet i would recommend looking at ZigBee too, you get 4 ZigBee devices for the price of one zwave mostly

analog hamlet
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Yeah I am running HA on a QNAP via docker, so right now I just bought an Aeotec Z-Stick Gen5, Z-Wave Plus USB just to see if i could figure out getting the devices connected

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was trying with bluetooth and things like flic buttons but wasnt working... not sure how straight forward zigbee is with usb stick approach?

clear ferry
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Same as zwave, but cheap usb too

analog hamlet
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IS there a supported usb stick that has both zwave/zigbee? I saw some mentions in forums but not sure if it was officially 'supported'

light trout
#

6.5 -> 6.7 was a GOOD update, almost no CPU usage, and it only uses about 70% of the RAM it used to use @clear ferry

clear ferry
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@clever mortar is building the cheap ZigBee stick for like 10โ‚ฌor something I think

velvet horizonBOT
#

Tinkerer is away for 1h 51m 1s with a message :point_right: โ€œWe'll be saying a big hello to all intelligent lifeforms everywhere and to everyone else out there, the secret is to bang the rocks together, guys.โ€ โ€• Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

light trout
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and the network has been stable AF

valid halo
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Gosh dang it

clear ferry
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@light trout sounds strange, let it sit for a few days, probably one of your vms not releasing memory back to the hypervisor ๐Ÿ˜‚ and remember to upgrade VMware tools and the virtual hardware version

valid halo
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Samsung had to smart and have all my ports closed on my phone

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so right now the only one open is for SSH

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so node-red on s7 is kind of a bust

light trout
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allready done @clear ferry , earlier after a reboot it would go to about 30% CPU on idle (after about 2h), now it has been running for 24h and are @ 4%
same with RAM, usually pushed 100%, but has now settled around 70% ๐Ÿคท

clear ferry
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Nice, might be the upgraded tools and hardware that made the change

light trout
#

Probably ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

analog hamlet
#

@clear ferry the ring security system seems to have everything i want, but why do some zwave products not have all the same functionality in HA? For example the abode security system can be arm/disarmed but it doesnt seem like the ring one can? both are z wave plus

clear ferry
#

๐Ÿคท

analog hamlet
#

yeah...abode has all the integration i want with home assistant but not actual video doorbell to buy :/

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and the cellular monitoring is like $30 a month, so no thanks

valid halo
#

I got it working

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I'm running and looking at node-red that's running on my samsung s7

sharp cosmos
#

Has anyone done an automation that works off the position of the sun in the sky, and the angle?

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Iโ€™d quite like to automate our pool filter so that it comes on when the sun is hitting the solar heater ๐Ÿค”

young sigil
valid halo
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It has an API ๐Ÿ˜„

young sigil
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An easier way would be to put a temperature sensor on it. The temperature shoots up when the sun lands on my dining room sensor. This would also take into account cloudy days.

valid halo
#

Oh.

odd mason
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the coverage seems pretty amazing

rain swift
#

Looks awesome, of course we need to see if the battery life claims are even close to real.

odd mason
#

with that sort of range i would be perfectly happy replacing battery every year

valid halo
#

Ruuvi Tag looks kewl

odd mason
#

i might have to order some tbh

#

that might be a much more reliable short distance geofence

analog hamlet
#

Anyone in here have experience with the Abode iota? Thinking of getting one wanted to hear peoples experiences with it / HA

lofty atlas
#

So now that I installed Home Assistant and added the Dark Sky sensor I am officially a weatherman and data scientist and need to update my resume accordingly. Anyone hiring? Seriously.

sharp cosmos
#

Ty on the sun stuff

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Ruuvi looks like it could be a pool sensor if it truly is waterproof

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Oh, just IP67

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So no good as a pool temperature sensor ๐Ÿ˜ž

valid halo
#

I'll hire you

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I can pay you in my worthless friendship and admiration

vestal reef
#

i'm at a loss .. math seems not to be on my side

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I'm trying to calculate percentage of water in a well and the arduino is spitting out numbers that are impossible

#

are arduinos bad at math ?

unreal orbit
#

You're probably telling it to do bad math

vestal reef
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i've recalculated it ten times, it should be ok

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gimme a sec, i'll show ya ๐Ÿ˜‰

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any good pastebin alternatives for sketches ?

velvet horizonBOT
unreal orbit
#

You could just post the relevant portion of the sketch

vestal reef
#

sensor measures distance to water surface

unreal orbit
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Accurately?

vestal reef
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to the mm

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I use following calculation to calculate the percent

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percent = ((depth+offset)-distance)/(depth/100);

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however, when I place the sensor exactly 20 cm from the surface (when it should say 100) it gives me 111-110 ... what am I doing wrong ...?

#

distance is also in cm btw

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221 is 100% btw

unreal orbit
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(depth/100)

#

wut

vestal reef
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to calculate how much 1 percent is

#

if I divide height of water by number of cms per percent I should get percents right ?

unreal orbit
#

(1 - ((distance - offset) / depth))*100 is the proper way to do what you want

#

If the distance is 20, that means the well is 100% full

vestal reef
#

whats wrong with how I'm doing it ?

unreal orbit
#

You're adding offset to depth, for some reason

#

Without using the arduino, just plug in some possible numbers to your equation.

#

You'll see why it doesn't make sense

#

If the well was 100% full, the distance would be equal to the offset

gusty umbra
#

Anyone know about how LED controllers work? I got 3 led controllers for free. Two of them are white magic home ones like this one: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41iPqag8MmL._AC_SY400_.jpg and the last one is a black one like this: https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/bb7b1b01-0448-486a-a95c-d68e902b4dda_1.6845fe9d77164ee455f7cc0aac757291.jpeg?odnHeight=560&odnWidth=560&odnBg=FFFFFF
The white ones have 4-pin connectors, with those tiny pins like RGB strips for PC RGB lighting etc. and say RGB on the casing. The black one has 5 of those pins. I think those connectors are 5v, red, green, blue and for the 5 pin one, the last would be white?
I got 2 LED strips of the type WS2812b, which have 3 pin connectors(thicker pins and actual connectors). The connectors are 5v, Din and GND.
Is this incompatible then, or how will I make this work?

vestal reef
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a few examples
well is 100%
percent = ((221+20-20)/(221/100)
--> percent = ((221)/(2.21)

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that should be 100 no ?

unreal orbit
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Yeah I just did it again and got the same answer. Are you sure offset is set to 20?

vestal reef
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well is 0%
percent = ((221+20-241)/(221/100)
--> percent = ((0)/(2.21)

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yes

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both are integers, thats ok right ?

unreal orbit
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No, that might be what's messing it up

vestal reef
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should be ... ?

unreal orbit
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float or double

vestal reef
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kk, I'll try, sec

unreal orbit
#

Probably float

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since it's a well

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๐Ÿ˜‰

vestal reef
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lol

#

EUREKA

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๐Ÿ˜„

#

even more precise results now too ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

#

need to get it rounded out tho ..

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:p

#

altho.. might not really matther

#

fixed, changed percent back to int, nice rounded now ๐Ÿ˜ƒ no calculations on it anyway

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now off to bed .. finally working.. took me days (from arduino start to this)

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soooo rewarding tho ๐Ÿ˜„

opal compass
#

i hope sharing links is not against the rules ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

unreal orbit
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It's not

opal compass
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thanks mate ๐Ÿ˜ƒ i do stupid thinks when i am exited

analog hamlet
#

Anyone have recommendations on best security systems that work with HA... currently have the Nest Secure and hate that I cant use anything besides the nest app to arm it...

untold dust
#

What would you guys recommend as firmware for a D1 Mini with WS2812? I've tried McLighting, but it doesn't respond quickly to HA. So I'm searching, otherwise I'll have to mod McLighting

last fiber
#

hey all... I'm using a hue custom component for reading hue switches and have been trying to figure out when the great migration is happening. i've read through what seems to be the big thread on it and missed a link to a roadmap

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i'm running hassio 0.91.4 so i'm thinking i'm post great migration?

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my hue lights stopped working from ha with a recent hassio update. just deleted them and setup the plugin again so that probably answers my question...

valid halo
#

I'm starting to think bluetooth is the devil's wireless profile

#

I'm currently in a rabbit hole fiddling with BlueZ files to try and get them to work in Eventghost

unreal orbit
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I prefer 433hz wireless. It's like the caveman version of wireless communication

#

Works great, but it's not very smart

valid halo
#

Okay

#

I think I found the problem

#

watch it totally break

valid halo
#

aw fuck

#

fix a syntax error and then it screams it can't find a module

analog hamlet
#

Does anyone in here with a ring doorbell know if you can talk through it through the ha app?

#

iOS

unreal orbit
#

Well the new Samsung One UI is kinda garbage

#

Seems like the only things that are functionally different were just changed to annoy me

rain swift
#

if I run docker stats when it happens I see no activity on the network for that container, all the rest look fine.

#

seems to happen close to every 24 hours

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I think it has something to do with the fact that I set a DHCP reservation for the home assistant VM

unreal orbit
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Why not set a static IP? What is your DHCP running on?

rain swift
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yeah I am looking for how to do that, hassOS seems to be some limited version of linux

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I run a pihole server

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its odd that when the lease renews it would sh*t itself and just stop working though

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I changed pihole not expire leases for now as an experiment until I figure out how to set the IP static

unreal orbit
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You expire leases for reservations?

rain swift
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I wouldn't think it would

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I guess the container tries to renew anyways, it looks like it has a lease time of 86400

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I found this nmcli command

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got it