#the-water-cooler | Home Assistant | Page 331

leaden adder Oct 8, 2018, 10:15 PM

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nice 😄

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@last plaza Which generation of the gateway are you using?

velvet horizonBOT Oct 8, 2018, 10:18 PM

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skalavala is away for 5m 9s with a message :point_right: busy setting up new firewall at home...

dull chasm Oct 8, 2018, 10:23 PM

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.sjabby

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@vast dove you dont have a repo listed?

vast dove Oct 8, 2018, 10:23 PM

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no

dull chasm Oct 8, 2018, 10:24 PM

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do you want?

vast dove Oct 8, 2018, 10:24 PM

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Nah, its not public 😃 (yet)

dull chasm Oct 8, 2018, 10:24 PM

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ok just let me know or any other mod

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you get a public git i move you up to jedi..... you do help alot

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@vast dove

pure vine Oct 8, 2018, 10:35 PM

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:( my printer doesnt have SNMP

tropic kindle Oct 9, 2018, 3:28 AM

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is there a more alive place to put a softwre question than in software???

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 6:18 AM

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Patience @tropic kindle 😉 There doesn't seem to be a huge number of AppDaemon users, but the nature of chat is that you'll be online when nobody who can help you is 🤷

fathom bay Oct 9, 2018, 8:16 AM

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hate this new +1 emoji, barely see it in dark theme

low harness Oct 9, 2018, 8:18 AM

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I agree. It's weird too that :+1: gives 👍 ...

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 8:22 AM

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I'll give it a white background box

pure vine Oct 9, 2018, 9:50 AM

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Is it a desktop thing, its quite visible on mobile

📎 Screenshot_Discord_20181009-105033.png

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 10:05 AM

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May also be a screen settings thing, on the dark theme for me it stands out enough - certainly more than the number next to it 🤷

pure vine Oct 9, 2018, 10:23 AM

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what does discord iOS look like

low harness Oct 9, 2018, 10:23 AM

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On my screen the visibility is highly dependent on the viewing angle.

pure vine Oct 9, 2018, 10:24 AM

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isnt it bad for your eyes to be veiwing from outside the veiwing angel of the TN display

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 10:26 AM

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Some screens are better than others - the viewing angle of my last laptop's screen was fantastic, this one is just so-so

pure vine Oct 9, 2018, 10:26 AM

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HP have been using terrible ones on their pavilions

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although if the screen is bright its a bit better

jagged mantle Oct 9, 2018, 10:31 AM

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how many would like me to put out an guide over how i made my rgb lights at home using an esp8266, milight controller and an 2,4 gHz transmitter for the esp?

vale shale Oct 9, 2018, 1:44 PM

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Go for it!

errant jay Oct 9, 2018, 3:38 PM

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Anybody watching Google's hardware event?

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 3:40 PM

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No, catching up on the live stream now

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https://syllabus.vox-cdn.com/uploads/photo/image/28174/DSCF0693_2500_resized.JPG looks really rather interesting

clever schooner Oct 9, 2018, 3:43 PM

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does anyone have an option for an inwall remote that looks like a wall switch and fits normal plates? I have been using the Lutron Connected Bulb Remote for years but not that it is discontinued it looks like people are paying $70-100 for the thing and I will not be doing that.

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 3:46 PM

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what do you guys thing abaout the google event so far?

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anoying that chat is turned off 😄

errant jay Oct 9, 2018, 3:47 PM

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The home hub looks like they're trying to be the hub of hubs

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Not nearly as powerful as HASS yet, but it looks like they might be going for a similar space

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 3:49 PM

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hm i hope something is coming for home assistant because its anying how you always have to listen to the super long answere "turning off light xy..."

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and the hey google or ok google aktivation word ist anoying aswell

errant jay Oct 9, 2018, 3:50 PM

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I missed the first part of the hub presentation but I doubt there will be any big software changes, this is a hardware event

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 3:50 PM

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alexa is so much better right now

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when is the next software event?..

errant jay Oct 9, 2018, 3:50 PM

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they did tweak the home app to be more of a control interface though so you can control things with a UI instead of voice

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 3:51 PM

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yeah ok but its still way behing copared to alexa..

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for home automation especially..

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i just bought 2 google home minis but im already thinking of switching..

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 3:53 PM

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I only use voice control for when the automation has failed to get it right, and for that (turning things on/off) GHome works just fine

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 3:56 PM

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yes you are right it works "fine" but its anoying me how it always talks back to you what its doing especially when one light is disconnected from power.. just give me an "ok" as confirmation, just a sound or even nothing because i can see im the light tunrs on or off..

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 3:56 PM

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Yeah, I'd like the option of a "ding" response only

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 3:56 PM

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amazon alexa has so many more options..

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even a short mode..

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@clever mortar yes! and a custom hotword but theyll never do that because they like you to say google all the time

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 3:58 PM

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I'm fine with the stock hotword, doesn't bother me at all

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 3:58 PM

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dont you think alexa or another single name is easier to say then "hey google"?

errant jay Oct 9, 2018, 3:59 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxuHbgz1UtI

This is the home hub with UI for controling smart devices from multiple vendors.

YouTube

Made by Google

Meet Google Home Hub

Google Home Hub brings you help at a glance for any moment at home. With the Google Assistant built-in, see your life in one view, and get things done hands-...

▶ Play video

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The same UI you see on the hub device will be available in the Home app on smart phones

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 3:59 PM

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Never had an Alexa, but as I said, I'm fine with Hey Google as I'm not likely to say that in error

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The rooms view is what interests me @errant jay (0:21)

errant jay Oct 9, 2018, 4:01 PM

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@clever mortar something to watch for. I'm not going to buy the device but I'll certainly be looking out for the app update.

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 4:01 PM

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I might, I've a couple of old (but still functional) Squeezebox units this may make sense to replace with

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We'll see what the reviews are like

errant jay Oct 9, 2018, 4:02 PM

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Yeah, I'll have to see how the functionality grows.

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 4:03 PM

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@clever mortar do you have your google home integrated into HA?

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 4:03 PM

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I do, used to use google_assistant (and still have it configured) but I use cloud: now

errant jay Oct 9, 2018, 4:04 PM

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A big thing I'm wondering about is if they are going in start adding functionality for sensors now that they have a UI. As of yet a sensor that is not part of another device has no support in Google Home

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 4:04 PM

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is there any advantage of the cloud over the component despite beeing way easier to set setup?

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 4:05 PM

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Nope - functionally identical

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 4:05 PM

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cloud is not for free..

errant jay Oct 9, 2018, 4:05 PM

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@midnight adder that's the only advantage

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 4:05 PM

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No, but it helps pay for the forums, and for HA's development @midnight adder

errant jay Oct 9, 2018, 4:05 PM

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Well, security is an advantage.

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without cloud you're opening ports you wouldn't otherwise.

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 4:06 PM

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I'm not going to remove the port forwarding any time soon - not until GPS Logger can work through cloud

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 4:06 PM

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@clever mortar dont want to be ungrateful but im a student right now and id like to keep it as cheap as possible.. when i earn more money ill pay for those things for sure 😃

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 4:07 PM

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Hey, we all make our own choices

errant jay Oct 9, 2018, 4:07 PM

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@midnight adder that's why they offer both!

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 4:07 PM

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I get it, totally, I'm just saying what cloud brings 😉

errant jay Oct 9, 2018, 4:07 PM

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Not everyone has the spare cash

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👍

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 4:08 PM

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Nope, and not everybody wants their data going through somebody else's network

errant jay Oct 9, 2018, 4:08 PM

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Bingo

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 4:08 PM

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so do i get it right that the component is less secure?

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 4:08 PM

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Not really

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It's different - because you port forward to reach your HA setup

errant jay Oct 9, 2018, 4:09 PM

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Holy pete, the Pixel 3 starts at $800 😅

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 4:09 PM

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However, if you're using SSL certs, and strong passwords, that's good. If you want to make life hard for the skiddies, don't use port 443 or 8123

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I may still buy one

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My Nexus 5X is starting to really show it's age

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 4:09 PM

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@clever mortar wouldnt that and the fact that its easier to setup already be a selling point for alexa? 😄

errant jay Oct 9, 2018, 4:09 PM

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Get a Pixel 2, not really sure I see the value of the upgrade on that one

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cept for the software updates

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 4:10 PM

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@midnight adder By all accounts alexa is every bit as fiddly, and with 0.80 GHome will be easier

errant jay Oct 9, 2018, 4:10 PM

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oooo, what's changing about 0.80 and the non cloud home setup?

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 4:11 PM

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@clever mortar is still need to setup ssl but if im not using the access from outside of my networt funktion i dont have to right?..

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 4:11 PM

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If you want to use Alexa or Google Assistant, you need cloud or port forwarding

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@errant jay Moving to OAuth, so simpler setup

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 4:12 PM

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ok didnt know that im still a newbie as see sorry 😄

errant jay Oct 9, 2018, 4:12 PM

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@clever mortar that's cool, have they aligned the config setup of the two? Last time I switched the config was vastly different for the same functionality.

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 4:12 PM

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could you maybe tell me some use cases for the GH integration? still thinking about if ts worth setting this all up?

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 4:12 PM

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The config will remain somewhat different, but I believe it's closer

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Voice control @midnight adder, and voice notifications

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Same as Alexa really (well, now you can do notifications to it)

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I can say Hey Google, turn on the lights and the lights in this room turn on

errant jay Oct 9, 2018, 4:14 PM

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provided that is the home that hears you best. 😉 I have one in every room and sometimes that's a crapshoot

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 4:14 PM

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It's very rare for me, but that may also be the layout helping

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There's no line of sight between them

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 4:14 PM

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@clever mortar what am i able to controll with it? all the instances and switches in HA? like set an alarm in HA and have my Yeelight automatically start getting brighter in the morning according to the alarm? because that funktion is only available in the yeelight app the GH cant do that..

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 4:15 PM

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Allow me to point you at the fine manual - https://www.home-assistant.io/components/google_assistant/#available-domains

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You can have an automation do what you described, that's exactly what I do

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I detect my (smart radio) alarm going off, and then slowly brighten the light over 30 seconds

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 4:17 PM

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@errant jay do you mean that a few homes start listening and responding to you at once? i have that problem when i stand in the livingroom an i tell it to tunr off the lights and if my bedroom door is not closed both of them respond and take action.. 😄

errant jay Oct 9, 2018, 4:17 PM

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No, they don't do that. But sometimes the sound bounces just right and the one in the bathroom hears me instead of the dining room.

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or hears me best, they both hear me, but Google makes a judgement call about which was the intended recepient and sometimes it's wrong

pure vine Oct 9, 2018, 4:18 PM

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i wonder if it will allow 3rd party devs to intergrate with the hub

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A home assistant display on it would be intresting

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 4:18 PM

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I've had that once where it was clearly my fault for hiding the mini behind a stack of books, and once where it was just freak luck

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 4:18 PM

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@clever mortar thats awesome thanks! do you mind me asking you in case i need some help during the setup? 😃

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 4:18 PM

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That's what #330944238910963714 is for - there's lots of folks who can help

errant jay Oct 9, 2018, 4:19 PM

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@clever mortar Lots of hardwood in my place, and it's a pretty open apartment only 1500 square feet. But i had the issue in my last place as well. i think it has to do with the tile in bathrooms

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 4:19 PM

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@errant jay hm any idea why it happens to me often? dont the communicate with eachother to decide which one im talking to?..

pure vine Oct 9, 2018, 4:20 PM

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Both the echos and google homes have a closeness negotation @errant jay @clever mortar

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 4:20 PM

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Yeah, the time it happened to me, the room door was open, and the next room's door was angled just right. I was technically closer (as the sound travelled) to the other room's device at that point by the time you took into account obstructions

errant jay Oct 9, 2018, 4:20 PM

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@pure vine Yeah, but sometimes it picks the wrong one. In which case the "turn off the lights" command will turn off the wrong lights

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 4:20 PM

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Those two cases have been it though, and I talk to GHome multiple times a day for various things

errant jay Oct 9, 2018, 4:21 PM

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The room commands barely come into play for me, usually I'm using them to turn off the lights in another room I'm not going back to.

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 4:22 PM

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hm maybe its because i live in germany and the software here isnt up to date yet? 😄

orchid rose Oct 9, 2018, 4:23 PM

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I have some issues in my small apartment where both of my GH devices pick up the command and sometimes the wrong one responds

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talking towards the device helps

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 4:24 PM

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@orchid rose i have almost the same problem but in case both GH listen to me both aswere and take action 🍮

orchid rose Oct 9, 2018, 4:24 PM

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never happens to me (running in English). Are you talking about room specific commands like "turn on the lights" etc?

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 4:24 PM

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@orchid rose yes

orchid rose Oct 9, 2018, 4:25 PM

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I almost never use those so I dunno if I'd have the same issue

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 4:25 PM

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@orchid rose its in german though

orchid rose Oct 9, 2018, 4:26 PM

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yeah but I can see why both would respond individually if you use the order to turn on the lights in the same room with the device. Probably something Google didn't really think of

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 4:27 PM

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@orchid rose hm yeah.. id like to give google a hint but i feel like those messages and the feetback i give them is going nowhere 😄

orchid rose Oct 9, 2018, 4:27 PM

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yeah I wouldn't count on it to change anything but it can't hurt

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also please don't tag me with every message, it's creepy 😉 @midnight adder

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 4:28 PM

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a sorry turned into a habit 😄

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im not using discord often

orchid rose Oct 9, 2018, 4:29 PM

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you're not the first one doing it, don't worry 😛

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 4:29 PM

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A few folks have had to be discouraged from doing it, not sure which chat system encourages it 🤷

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 4:29 PM

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whatsapp does

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a whole lot 😄

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 4:30 PM

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Odd, I use it, never felt the need to tag folks, but 🤷

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 4:30 PM

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you dont tag the people you quote what they were saying and its kinda similar

orchid rose Oct 9, 2018, 4:30 PM

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I guess it's for group chats on whatsapp. I don't have enough friends for that to become an issue 🤓

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 4:31 PM

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I just kinda assume people are reading 😛

light trout Oct 9, 2018, 4:31 PM

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Are there an official HA app for google/android now?

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 4:31 PM

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if youre texting girls you have to make damn sure you respond to what they are saying 😄

orchid rose Oct 9, 2018, 4:31 PM

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that's a rookie mistake mate

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 4:31 PM

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and then you use quotes

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 4:32 PM

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The latest podcast suggests not, but a post in dev channel suggests maybe @light trout

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 4:32 PM

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haha if you are interested in the girl yes you are right

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 4:32 PM

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Always found talking helped, but hey, old school 😉

light trout Oct 9, 2018, 4:33 PM

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@clever mortar good, then it's not just me that are confused :)
@clever mortar I just saw the post in #devs
Thanks @clever mortar

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🤣

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 4:33 PM

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@light trout Not @light trout a @light trout problem @light trout happy @light trout to @light trout help @light trout

light trout Oct 9, 2018, 4:33 PM

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going to hide now

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 4:33 PM

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no more tags please #nomoretags

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old school is better though! way less problems! but its kind of an addiction :/

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😄

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 4:36 PM

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Less problems? Riiiiiight 😛

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 4:37 PM

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wrong? 😄

light trout Oct 9, 2018, 4:37 PM

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Go back to dial-up and try to load any site 😉

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 4:38 PM

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Also, via an app you're unlikely to be slapped, have a drink poured on you, or discover yourself paying the bill when your date storms off

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 4:39 PM

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that all happened to you? 😅 hate if you stay on the app but you want to meet one day instead of texting all the time right? 😄

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hate

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 4:41 PM

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Loud music sometimes makes it hard for people to hear things correctly, and sometimes too much dutch courage results in you running your mouth off, and sometimes you realise it just ain't gonna work

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At least I wasn't my friend who found themselves having to make their own way home from an unfamiliar city, in the days long before mobile phones

midnight adder Oct 9, 2018, 4:44 PM

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ok i think im lost 😅 sounds like a bad night 😒

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 4:45 PM

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Not one, but different ones

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If that all happened in a single night, that'd have been a really interesting night 😄

gleaming gyro Oct 9, 2018, 5:01 PM

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Any thoughts on the new google home view? Sounds like it will be able to show the devices that are linked to the google home....

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select

pure vine Oct 9, 2018, 6:54 PM

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@clever mortar IRC is what made me do it, tagging is useful when there are multiple convos going on

clever mortar Oct 9, 2018, 6:54 PM

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Yeah, there it makes sense where there's a bazillion conversations going on

patent slate Oct 10, 2018, 6:58 AM

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mattermost for example

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it allows to answear on entries and can display them as a thread on the right bar

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it is really easy to keep multiple conversations going and not get confused

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http://about.mattermost.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Screenshot-at-Dec-06-10-34-09.png

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maybe someone can get a channel going?

clever mortar Oct 10, 2018, 7:11 AM

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I was gonna say that looks like Slack, and it's a Slack clone 😄

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IMO setting up a competing chat service would a really bad idea

patent slate Oct 10, 2018, 7:19 AM

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it is a open source slack clone which can be self hosted

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^^

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you're not that wrong

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you're right but the many conversations sure can get confusing

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competeting chat services are bad, you're right.
imho this is batter suited for the many parallel conversations.
This is why I am suggesting it

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afaik it can do everything discord can do

worn island Oct 10, 2018, 8:31 AM

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Is anyone able to figure out whether NUC7CJYH support dual channel RAM? It has two slots, at least!

clever mortar Oct 10, 2018, 8:33 AM

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~lmgtfy NUC7CJYH

velvet horizonBOT Oct 10, 2018, 8:33 AM

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:point_up:

Let me Google that for you...

Here, try this => http://lmgtfy.com/?q=NUC7CJYH

clever mortar Oct 10, 2018, 8:34 AM

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First hit

worn island Oct 10, 2018, 8:46 AM

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@clever mortar I've looked at the spec sheet already and see nothing regarding dual channel memory

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Oh.. "Max # of Memory Channels"

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I was looking for the mention of the word "Dual"

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Well, thanks for pointing out it's there 😄

clever mortar Oct 10, 2018, 8:48 AM

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👍

tired veldt Oct 10, 2018, 9:06 AM

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?rank other

slim rampartBOT Oct 10, 2018, 9:06 AM

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@tired veldt, you joined Other.

heavy lava Oct 10, 2018, 9:08 AM

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hey what would be a good IDE for yaml . is eclipse any good?

tired veldt Oct 10, 2018, 9:10 AM

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vim and notepad++ 😉

clever mortar Oct 10, 2018, 9:10 AM

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At one point I'm sure the docs had the common suggestions, but I can't see it. From memory Microsoft Studio Code, and Notepad++, and something else

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I'm personally a vi fan

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Atom, that's the other one

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@heavy lava Please do not cross post your questions

patent slate Oct 10, 2018, 9:42 AM

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I use notepad++

worn island Oct 10, 2018, 9:46 AM

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As for Notepad++, it's been lagging an awful lot for me when editing network files

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I tried disabling automatic update checks and only refresh files manually using a keyboard shortcut, but it still lags upon opening network files

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So if I leave some open, close and reopen Notepad++ it will hang for like 3 seconds before opening properly

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Currently testing Atom due to this issue, but haven't used it much yet

tired veldt Oct 10, 2018, 9:53 AM

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might be worth to fix the network first. I guess you're already using UNC Paths instead of mapped drives?

patent slate Oct 10, 2018, 9:54 AM

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I am open the files on the smb share through the ip and it works flawless

clever mortar Oct 10, 2018, 9:55 AM

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Did you make the mistake of connecting your HA system with WiFi @worn island ?

worn island Oct 10, 2018, 10:05 AM

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@clever mortar Yes 😊 This due to the fact that the router currently occupies living room real estate, and my fiancee does not approve. 😦 I do have another router set up as an extender in my office and actually tried connecting to it by ethernet (I know it won't make a huge difference), but could never get it to work properly so ended up using wifi "directly".

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We're expecting fiber in december though, so hopefully I'll be able to move the main router to my office then.

clever mortar Oct 10, 2018, 10:06 AM

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Wired will potentially make a huge difference

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It might not be the cause of your problems, but the chances are it's either the entire cause, or a major part of it

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I've run wires in trunking around the house to ensure that everything that should be wired can be - out of sight, out of mind 😉

worn island Oct 10, 2018, 10:17 AM

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@clever mortar Yeah, I truly envy you 😄 Will definitely go that route when we own a house someday

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We actually own the apartment, but we're planning on keeping it for just a few years so don't wanna spend too much on it

heavy lava Oct 10, 2018, 11:55 AM

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I manage to change the left icon, how about right icons?

orchid rose Oct 10, 2018, 12:18 PM

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not possible with the regular UI afaik

velvet hedge Oct 10, 2018, 1:23 PM

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Apartment living is so depressing. House-hunting is equally depressing.

clever mortar Oct 10, 2018, 1:24 PM

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And stressful

manic galleon Oct 10, 2018, 1:24 PM

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@heavy lava Look into Atom

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For Text editor

velvet hedge Oct 10, 2018, 1:25 PM

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Absolutely. I have so many plans for the platform, but until we get into a house it's all just a pipe dream. I got my Pi over the weekend and flashed hassio onto the sd, but didn't even bother booting up/installing since for now it seems pretty pointless 😔

clever mortar Oct 10, 2018, 1:26 PM

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Lots of folks here live in rental property - just means you can't change the wiring or poke holes in walls

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Smart dimmers for instance usually don't require changes to wiring

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Smart sockets just plug in

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The only intrusive things I've done to the house I own are run network cables in trunking, and wire up a LED strip in a diffuser

velvet hedge Oct 10, 2018, 1:28 PM

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Yeah, but with two cats (one very interested in exploring all the ways to destroy things) in a 1-bedroom ~1000 sqft apartment it doesn't seem worth it to start now. Once we have a place I can at least set it up so that the brain is out of his reach

clever mortar Oct 10, 2018, 1:29 PM

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Now then is a time to start looking at your behaviours, patterns, etc. Work out what things you'd like to automate, etc

velvet hedge Oct 10, 2018, 1:30 PM

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That's what I've been doing. Plus, I'm getting very discouraged in the townhouse/condo-hunting because we have very strict limits to what we can afford. the fiance is on perm disability and I'm the bread-bringer. So, our options are pretty limited. Until we get lucky in finding the perfect place (looking for 2-bedroom) in our price-range I feel like all my planning and exciting was all for just a dream 😛

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Sorry for the venting

clever mortar Oct 10, 2018, 1:32 PM

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Semi been there. The previous house move was a pain finding something we could afford in an area we'd want to live in, where the commute was survivable

velvet hedge Oct 10, 2018, 1:34 PM

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Same, I mean can't get a better commute than I do now (2-mile drive lol). But, to show you how much I've ACTUALLY been planning have a look at this.

clever mortar Oct 10, 2018, 1:35 PM

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With the current house move, I started with a paper map, and plotted out commute time in 10 minute increments (both by car, and public transport)

velvet hedge Oct 10, 2018, 1:35 PM

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Plans

📎 SmartHomeSetup.png

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Oh & I've made extensive breakdown on monthly costs & distances to place as well (like you)

clever mortar Oct 10, 2018, 1:37 PM

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My plans started much simpler - solve a problem (garden lights). Then it's just been a case of "what annoys me now".

velvet hedge Oct 10, 2018, 1:39 PM

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pros/cons/finances

📎 2018-10-10_09_37_15-Microsoft_Excel_-_Extensive_Financial_Breakdown__Pros__Cons_List.xlsx.png

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I'm a big planner with major ocd

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lol

clever mortar Oct 10, 2018, 1:40 PM

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Yeah, we mapped out time to works, time to major transport hubs, family, costs of everything

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Then somewhat ended up sorting it all in a rush and going "Well, this'll just have to do" 😄

velvet hedge Oct 10, 2018, 1:41 PM

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haha XD

clever mortar Oct 10, 2018, 1:42 PM

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I'd expected to have had more time, but work moved the goal posts on me 🤷

velvet hedge Oct 10, 2018, 1:42 PM

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Another things that's rough on me is it's basically just me looking because she can't handle much else on top of what she's currently dealing with

clever mortar Oct 10, 2018, 1:43 PM

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Yeah, I get that. My own wife was massively stressed out about the move, and I made most of the major (and many of the minor) decisions

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Fingers crossed you find something viable soon

velvet hedge Oct 10, 2018, 1:52 PM

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Thanks, here's to hoping 🤞

buoyant anvil Oct 10, 2018, 1:59 PM

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we looked aggressively for 10 months before we got a place.. out bid on 3... everything was going for 20 and 30k over list.. it was gross. then we just threw a hail mary for a place the absolute top-end of budget, making an offer for list price.. sure there was no way in hell we would get it.. and here i am 😄

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lots of people buying cash and waving inspection and appraisals

cosmic drift Oct 10, 2018, 2:17 PM

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hello everyone i was wondering if anyone on here has tried adding a Tuya dimmer into HA? I added it into the config however once the light is turned on, the icon goes away and when you turn off the light, the icon comes back. Anyone seen this?

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tuya:
username: 'username
password: 'password'
country_code: '1'

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this grabs the light ok just that in love lace or non love lace, the light icon goes away when ever you turn it on

clever mortar Oct 10, 2018, 2:33 PM

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#330944238910963714 @cosmic drift (hint, please try reading the channel topics)

cosmic drift Oct 10, 2018, 3:12 PM

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@clever mortar i have been researching for hours now 😦

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read somewhere that once the tuya light turns on that the icon is there but chrome sets the icon element to white color and maybe thats why i csnt see it

manic galleon Oct 10, 2018, 3:14 PM

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#330944238910963714

cosmic drift Oct 10, 2018, 3:14 PM

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hoping for a work around - if i embed the light into a group of its own - the icon shows but it does not turn colors depending on the state

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thanks will post in HA

rain swift Oct 10, 2018, 3:42 PM

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does @junior forge have a youtube channel?

pure vine Oct 10, 2018, 3:55 PM

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there are 3 flac files on my phone that allways seem to cause the phone to crash

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One has that weird silence some files have, the other has a long name

rain swift Oct 10, 2018, 4:00 PM

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interesting. https://www.newyorker.com/science/elements/after-years-of-abusive-e-mails-the-creator-of-linux-steps-aside

The New Yorker

After Years of Abusive E-mails, the Creator of Linux Steps Aside

The celebrated coder Linus Torvalds, known for the operating system he created and his aggressive style of communication, says he is seeking help.

pure vine Oct 10, 2018, 4:11 PM

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and then them adopting the same CoC as this project as he left has caused a lot of drama

junior forge Oct 10, 2018, 4:18 PM

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@rain swift I do 😉

rain swift Oct 10, 2018, 4:22 PM

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but he's coming back

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sweet can you link it @junior forge ?

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I don't see it on your profile

junior forge Oct 10, 2018, 4:23 PM

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Go to YouTube

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/frenck

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😃

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Easy 😉

rain swift Oct 10, 2018, 4:26 PM

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k

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all I see is rob haha

pure vine Oct 10, 2018, 6:19 PM

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Some intresting news https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/10/10/microsoft_open_innovation_network/

Microsoft has signed up to the Open Innovation Network. We repeat....

That 60,000 patents in your pocket or are you just pleased to see us?

vale shale Oct 10, 2018, 10:05 PM

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Just out of curiosity does anyone have any main pi-hole blocklists that they recommend?

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I found this article and have added a couple of lists from here.

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https://discourse.pi-hole.net/t/i-concatenated-every-blocklist-i-could-find/5184/103

Pi-hole Userspace

I concatenated every BlockList I could find

Just some stats from a blocklist https://ncloud.zaclys.com/index.php/s/MPYSjLkb8cE8gPN/download https://ncloud.zaclys.com/index.php/s/2Tiwb43tGKQ3BSQ/download Very expermential youtube list https://ncloud.zaclys.com/index.php/s/TJkqZjCt99Xxjab/download https://twit...

safe ferry Oct 10, 2018, 10:15 PM

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why does HA ignore my preferred language under tts: ?

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checked with google, my language is available

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yet it still reads using english

buoyant anvil Oct 10, 2018, 10:21 PM

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anyone have HA talking to their denon receiver? curious if im missing out on functionality or if power, volume, and source are pretty much it

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like im watching netflix via fireTV that is plugged into said receiver.. but all i get in HA is that the receiver is on... now when i tried playing bluetooth from my phone i got a bit more but not much

vague ginkgo Oct 10, 2018, 10:56 PM

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okay.. so I'm at a total loss for what is going on... my hassio install was being a bit laggy, so I sshd into the host and rebooted it... but now home assistant isn't coming back...

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I'm assuming I should jump into #449717345808547842, and I'm doing that, but I thought I could post here too incase it was a common enough problem someone may know what is going on.

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I'm going to go post in #449717345808547842 with the more specific details

pure vine Oct 11, 2018, 9:05 AM

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is the Pi booting

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@vague ginkgo

coral steppe Oct 11, 2018, 10:37 AM

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i have a complex question, i currently have a openvpn server running at my home, i can reach it and all the other network stuff over the vpn. the problem is, i cannot reach my laptop over the vpn from my home, when the laptop is on another location. i dont know if its possible, but do you know if i can set the vpn server in such a way that the home network can also reach my laptop when i'm on school. (its almost a site to site vpn but without any routers that are communicating with each other)

patent slate Oct 11, 2018, 10:52 AM

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why don't you dail your laptop in through vpn?

clever mortar Oct 11, 2018, 10:54 AM

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Short answer yes. Long answer - it depends on the settings of the VPN server

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If you're using bridged connectivity then your laptop appears to be on your home network. If you're using routed then you need to ensure that the hosts on your network know how to reach the VPN subnet

pure vine Oct 11, 2018, 1:59 PM

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Whats a good local only CCTV camrea software

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preferably opensource

vale shale Oct 11, 2018, 2:05 PM

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I have found http://blueirissoftware.com/ works great. Integratable with HA but I don't think it is open-source.

Blue Iris

Blue Iris - Video Security Software

Webcam and video security software. Record, playback and watch your surveillance cameras live at home or on the go with our mobile apps.

pure vine Oct 11, 2018, 2:06 PM

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Yeah, I was looking at motioneye

vague ginkgo Oct 11, 2018, 2:13 PM

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@pure vine I'm not running on a pi, I'm running on a bookshelf pc running ubuntu server.

pure vine Oct 11, 2018, 2:13 PM

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Oh, ok, thats strange

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I assume the ubuntu server is booting

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@vague ginkgo anything odd in the logs

vague ginkgo Oct 11, 2018, 2:33 PM

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yeah, ubuntu is booting just fine and I'm able to ssh into it. So far from troubleshooting and gathering logs it looks like the hassio supervisor can't load because it thinks the filesystem is read only.

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I've posted here. https://community.home-assistant.io/t/hassio-doesnt-come-back-after-a-host-reboot-not-pi/72510

Home Assistant Community

Hassio doesn't come back after a host reboot (Not Pi)

Hassio was running slow after getting some zwave devices added to the network so I SSHd into the host and rebooted it. After the system booted back up, hassio never came back. I checked on docker the only way I know how, sudo docker ps -a and it didn’t list any containers a...

pure vine Oct 11, 2018, 2:35 PM

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Note, the home assistant docker isnt hass.io, it is just home assistant in a docker

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How much space is left on the ubuntu servers disk

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@vague ginkgo ^

vague ginkgo Oct 11, 2018, 2:54 PM

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I'm running hassio, not just home assistant in docker.
https://www.home-assistant.io/hassio/installation/ running the install script from the bottom of this page.

Home Assistant

Installing Hass.io

Instructions on how to install Hass.io.

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Also, @pure vine the hdd should have plenty of space. Hassio is the only thing running on the server, and the entire /usr/share/hassio folder is taking up less than a gig.

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but... df -h reveals that some things are listing 100% use.

light trout Oct 11, 2018, 3:00 PM

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And what are those things?

pure vine Oct 11, 2018, 3:05 PM

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Uhhh, Im all for sensors in stuff, but this is odd https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-45809924

BBC News

Walmart planning 'net-connected trolley'

Patent for a trolley that measures heart rate, walking speed, temperature and grip is lodged in US.

vague ginkgo Oct 11, 2018, 3:11 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/dUZiKxr.png @light trout

Imgur

pure vine Oct 11, 2018, 3:17 PM

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youll need to make the docker storage bigger

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although i dont ude docker so i wont be able help there

hidden finch Oct 11, 2018, 5:34 PM

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Hell yeah! Finally got an install of postfix directly sending sms messages to my phone.

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This means no need for a 3rd party service to send sms messages to my phone from home assistant

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It's a pretty damn easy setup too...I should do a write up. I think quite a few folks would like this.

clever mortar Oct 11, 2018, 5:35 PM

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Ah, you're in one of those strange countries with an email to SMS relay 😉

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Sadly in the UK the providers all stopped doing that

hidden finch Oct 11, 2018, 5:36 PM

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Yes :)

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That's too bad

clever mortar Oct 11, 2018, 5:36 PM

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Of course, a PAYG SIM with a few thousand SMSs would cost me peanuts

hidden finch Oct 11, 2018, 5:36 PM

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True or you could look into MMS or SMS over IP

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SMS over IP is just SMS via the SIP protocol

clever mortar Oct 11, 2018, 5:37 PM

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Yeah, but doing it from an attached dongle also means I wouldn't be reliant on the Internet

hidden finch Oct 11, 2018, 5:37 PM

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Agreed

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I plan to get a cellular dongle for security reasons eventually

clever mortar Oct 11, 2018, 5:38 PM

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You remind me, I've got a free PAYG SIM pre-loaded with a load of data, minutes, and messages...

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Now I know what my next project is

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shakes fist damn you 😛

hidden finch Oct 11, 2018, 5:38 PM

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Haha

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I found my next project too... Running a SIP server/client locally to send messages to my phone

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I have a feeling that won't be as easy as the postfix solution

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This is all part of a bigger project though. Make home assistant interactive for updating and what not

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Ask questions, provide details, etc

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I want to make general maintenance manageable from HA and avoid logging in via SSH

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SSH should be reserved for bigger tasks, not little updates

rain swift Oct 11, 2018, 5:57 PM

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pushbullet has been working fine for me.

clever mortar Oct 11, 2018, 5:58 PM

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For safe updating, I'd go with creating a fresh venv each time

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Then the rollback is trivial

hidden finch Oct 11, 2018, 5:59 PM

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I don't like using cloud based approaches

clever mortar Oct 11, 2018, 5:59 PM

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Probably you'd need to snapshot the config directory though

hidden finch Oct 11, 2018, 5:59 PM

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Yeah I plan to take a fairly safe approach

rain swift Oct 11, 2018, 5:59 PM

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me either but I'm not setting up an email server when google is free lol

hidden finch Oct 11, 2018, 6:00 PM

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Meh

light trout Oct 11, 2018, 6:00 PM

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@vague ginkgo Usually running the script again starts it up agin.

hidden finch Oct 11, 2018, 6:01 PM

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Setting up the server is trivial

rain swift Oct 11, 2018, 6:02 PM

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maybe, but what do I gain, everything is stored local, if its only for alerts I guess it doesn't matter, if you use it to attach snapshots from the camera system, might not want it on a box they can steal when they break into your house lol

hidden finch Oct 11, 2018, 6:06 PM

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Encrypt your drive if you're worried about that

rain swift Oct 11, 2018, 6:36 PM

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that doesn't save the evidence..... lol

vague ginkgo Oct 11, 2018, 6:39 PM

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@light trout it didn't, the only thing rerunning the install scripted is made the has IO supervisor show up. When the problem first arrives there were no Docker containers listed at all, not even any stopped ones. Rerunning the install script just got the hassio supervisor to show up when I try to list all the docke4 containers but it will never start. it just keeps throwing read-only file system related errors.

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And pardon the odd spelling and word choice, I am currently using hands-free mode while driving into my day job. I posted a bit more details about the issue in the docker Channel, along with a link to the forums where I have even more details posted about the different troubleshooting I've done so far.

pure vine Oct 11, 2018, 8:35 PM

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Tradfri outlets are on the IKEA UK site

fair monolith Oct 12, 2018, 2:47 AM

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you know... I wonder how secure a zigbee network really is...

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https://www.blackhat.com/docs/us-15/materials/us-15-Zillner-ZigBee-Exploited-The-Good-The-Bad-And-The-Ugly-wp.pdf

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well... rip

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joining/rejoining devices is bad

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sends the key in plain text instead of using asymmetric encryption...

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 7:54 AM

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can someone tell me the difference between hass scripts and appdeamon and what i can do with them?

light trout Oct 12, 2018, 8:01 AM

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Do you mean https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/scripts/ as "hass scripts"?

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 8:04 AM

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yes

light trout Oct 12, 2018, 8:08 AM

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They are not comparable at all
Appdaemon run python "apps", and script run predefined services (You can do jinja templating in them to make them a little more powerfull)

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 8:12 AM

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But of course, if you use https://www.home-assistant.io/components/#search/command then you've got lots more power than a "simple" script

light trout Oct 12, 2018, 8:13 AM

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true, and script does not require you to install anything else on the system

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 8:27 AM

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i was more thinking if there is any difference in what i can do, like if i need appdeamon to do more advanced automations

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 8:28 AM

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The real question is - do you already know Python 3, or are planning on learning it?

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 8:28 AM

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i know like the basics but im not super familiar the the classes and define

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 8:29 AM

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AppDaemon requires you learn/know Python. YAML doesn't. Node-Red requires you can use a GUI

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I've not yet seen anything I can't do with existing components and YAML, but there will be some things that are easier in Python, and some elsewhere 🤷

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 8:29 AM

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but if there a diffrence in what advanced stuff i can do between them

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 8:30 AM

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AppDaemon and Node Red use Home Assistant's API

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So by definition they can't do anything that Home Assistant can't do

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 8:30 AM

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i was planning to make so my rgb strip in my roof lights up diffrent colors in the morning based on what day it is

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 8:31 AM

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That's trivial in YAML

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 8:31 AM

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but what would you recommend, appdeamon or scripts and automations

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 8:31 AM

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I'd recommend you use what works for you

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Seriously

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None of these are "best", or "worst"

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They're all just different ways of doing the same thing.

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 8:32 AM

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i can learn python easily if its easier and more productive

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 8:32 AM

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Then do that

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You're asking if you should buy a blue car, or a red car

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 8:32 AM

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but what does you use?

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 8:32 AM

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I use a blue car 😉

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 8:32 AM

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...

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 8:33 AM

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Never make decisions purely based on what other people use/do

light trout Oct 12, 2018, 8:33 AM

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That run a SCALA software he made in the early 90's

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 8:33 AM

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Always make your own mind up

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I use YAML, because that's trivial for me to do funky stuff in

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I did learn Python a decade or so back, but have forgotten it all. If I was to learn it again would I use AppDaemon...? Probably not 🤷

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I prefer keeping the automation platform with as few moving parts as possible

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Some others think that YAML is the worst thing ever and do it all in AppDaemon

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 8:34 AM

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but i like hearing peoples experiences with different stuff and make a bigger understanding and make the right choice

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 8:34 AM

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None of this is about generic right choices

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As I keep saying - this is about you

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 8:35 AM

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but i mean what i think is the right choice

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 8:35 AM

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I think that your right choice is the white car 😛

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Try it all

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See what works for you

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 8:35 AM

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sorry, but im not legally allowed to drive a car

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 8:36 AM

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Like that ever stopped anybody 😉

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 8:36 AM

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so buying a car would be kinda stupid for me

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 8:36 AM

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You're missing the point again 😉

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 8:36 AM

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i know what you mean

light trout Oct 12, 2018, 8:36 AM

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Aslo untrue 😉 https://www.ebay.com/bhp/electric-toy-car

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 8:36 AM

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Do a thing in YAML. Do the same thing in AppDaemon. Do the same thing in Node Red.

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Then decide

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Maybe you'll discover that you love #node-red-archived - who knows

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(yeah, it's not for me either, but 🤷 )

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 8:38 AM

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ill think ill try yaml and see what i think, and also node red requries some extra "moving parts" and that could slow down my system and lead to a bunch of problems

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 8:38 AM

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So does AppDaemon 😉

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 8:38 AM

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btw is it worth changing my rpi 2 b to and rpi 3 b+?

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will i see any diffrence?

light trout Oct 12, 2018, 8:38 AM

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Note that every external "motor" (NR/AD) you use, will a point of failiure to your flow.

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 8:39 AM

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Same difference you'd see going from a moped to a motor bike

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 8:39 AM

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i dont know what the diffrence is between them

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 8:39 AM

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https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2018/raspberry-pi-3-b-review-and-performance-comparison

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Google is your friend

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 8:40 AM

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but it wont speed up things right if im not even seing any lag or errors

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 8:40 AM

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Check your log file for errors about the timer

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 8:41 AM

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apart from that hass cant connect to my unpluged chromecast but thats explaining it self

light trout Oct 12, 2018, 8:41 AM

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Timer out of sync, resetting.

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 8:41 AM

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i think i got that some times

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does it slow down anything?

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 8:42 AM

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That's telling you that some things didn't happen because your system is too slow

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 8:42 AM

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its only when im starting hass

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does it break something?

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 8:48 AM

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That's telling you that some things didn't happen

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 8:49 AM

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i havnt noticed any problems

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 8:50 AM

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🤷

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 8:50 AM

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do i need to do anything about it?

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 8:50 AM

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You've already been given the answer to that

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 8:50 AM

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not a yes or no

thick scroll Oct 12, 2018, 9:04 AM

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currently writing the hass image to an sd card, the Write Speed is 0.20 MBps 🙈

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 9:06 AM

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Have fun 😉

thick scroll Oct 12, 2018, 9:06 AM

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I am just thinking of going on a walk

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:07 AM

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First thing to do after you get it set up, is set up backups that send a copy off the Pi

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Then when it all goes horribly wrong or your SD card eats itself you can recover 😉

thick scroll Oct 12, 2018, 9:08 AM

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Yeah, gonna have the copy of the config on git

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Anyways, Its temporary setup so it doesnt matter

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Which is the best install method for HA?

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I mean the most native

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:09 AM

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Best is so relative

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~best

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Nah, there's a shortcut somewhere, but 🤷

light trout Oct 12, 2018, 9:09 AM

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Cue @clever mortar 's moto

thick scroll Oct 12, 2018, 9:09 AM

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yeah, I meant native, not best

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:09 AM

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Native is Python venv

thick scroll Oct 12, 2018, 9:09 AM

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ah okay

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:09 AM

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If you go with Hass.io, you get a Docker container with a Python install

thick scroll Oct 12, 2018, 9:10 AM

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oh

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:10 AM

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Hassbian on a Pi gives you "native"

light trout Oct 12, 2018, 9:10 AM

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~which

velvet horizonBOT Oct 12, 2018, 9:10 AM

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There's no right way of installing Home Assistant - each approach has advantages and disadvantages. If you're after the appliance like experience use Hass.io, if you know (or want to know) linux, use Hassbian. Beyond that, have a look at the long list of official options at https://home-assistant.io/docs/installation/. See Tinkerer's take at https://blog.ceard.tech/2017/11/which-home-assistant-install-is-right.html.

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:11 AM

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Glad somebody has a working memory 😄

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I'm a unix geek, I way prefer the Python venv approach (Hassbian etc)

thick scroll Oct 12, 2018, 9:11 AM

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gonna go with hass for testing and then probably python for prod.

light trout Oct 12, 2018, 9:12 AM

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I'm lazy AF and prefer the hassio method

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hass is all of them 😉

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:12 AM

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I'm lazy too, venv requires me to learn nothing new 😛

thick scroll Oct 12, 2018, 9:13 AM

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I need it to be controlled by my system easily so need it to be docker

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:13 AM

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If I went Hass.io I'd have to learn Docker, because of the way my brain works

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 9:13 AM

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isnt hass.io a closed system you cant do anything else on?

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:13 AM

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Only if you don't know enough Docker to create your own add-ons 😉

light trout Oct 12, 2018, 9:14 AM

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Yeah :/ when i think about it, the point where i stopped using HA was around the time I moved to hassio 😜

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 9:14 AM

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ai?

light trout Oct 12, 2018, 9:14 AM

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For some obscure reason my phone autocorrected 'I' to 'ai'

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 9:15 AM

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oh, okay

thick scroll Oct 12, 2018, 9:15 AM

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xD

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still just 33% 🙈

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:15 AM

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@light trout Just confirmed he's been replaced by a shell script 😛

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 9:16 AM

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haha

light trout Oct 12, 2018, 9:16 AM

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A bad one too. 😂

thick scroll Oct 12, 2018, 9:16 AM

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I think I will go check on my system until this is flashing.

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 9:16 AM

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move to gboard, its much better

light trout Oct 12, 2018, 9:16 AM

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Well....

📎 image0.png

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 9:16 AM

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oh...

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nvm

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:17 AM

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🤣

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 9:17 AM

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i was going to blame apple on that one but i might ran into an problem with that

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i still hate apple btw

light trout Oct 12, 2018, 9:19 AM

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If that is the case I honsestly feel sorry for you

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 9:20 AM

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why?

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:20 AM

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Apple is no better/worse than not-Apple

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It's different

light trout Oct 12, 2018, 9:20 AM

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That's why

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 9:20 AM

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and im being forced by my school to use a mac

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:20 AM

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Good

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You should be forced to learn different ways of doing things

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It stops your brain getting stuck in a rut - forces you to think rather than click blindly

light trout Oct 12, 2018, 9:21 AM

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I wish my school did that

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:21 AM

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I wish my school had had computers 😛

light trout Oct 12, 2018, 9:21 AM

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🤣

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I only had access to a computer in my final year 😛

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 9:22 AM

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i like there hardware but not their software and prices

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everyone from 3:rd grade as a chromebook and everyone from 7:th grade has a macbook air

light trout Oct 12, 2018, 9:24 AM

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So there is hope for the next generation after all 😛

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 9:24 AM

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im feeling locked in using IOS and sometimes OSX

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:24 AM

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My son has experienced Mac, Windows (7, 8, 10), iOS, Android (4 through 9), Linux

light trout Oct 12, 2018, 9:25 AM

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if you feel locked in OSX you are doing it wrong 😛

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:25 AM

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He's learning to use and understand

light trout Oct 12, 2018, 9:25 AM

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it has a terminal!

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 9:25 AM

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yeah i know thats why i only said sometimes

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i still got limitations that doesn't exist on windows

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:26 AM

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Same goes the other way around 😉

light trout Oct 12, 2018, 9:26 AM

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Yeah, like security features 😛

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QA for updates

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:26 AM

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If you're comparing A to B you'll always find things A can do that B can't

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 9:27 AM

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but i still thinks ipad is the best tablet you can get hardware wise atleast

light trout Oct 12, 2018, 9:28 AM

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You are unvalidating your own statement ;)
https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/397426163649216512/500235824789716992

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That is good 👍

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 9:30 AM

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im hating apple how they scamming people and there ridicules prices for stuff thats cheap to make, like some adapters thats probably costs 5$ to make but they sell it for 40$

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:30 AM

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That's called business

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Companies charge what people will pay - and they want to maximise profits

light trout Oct 12, 2018, 9:31 AM

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with that logic, you should "hate" everyone that ever bought a device made by apple

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 9:31 AM

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apple is the only company that can do whatever they want and all of their braindead fans will not care

light trout Oct 12, 2018, 9:32 AM

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really?

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 9:32 AM

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im not saying everyone is brain dead but its a big chunk of the fans

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:32 AM

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I think you're possibly ever so slightly blinkered there

light trout Oct 12, 2018, 9:32 AM

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every company everywhere does that, that is how the grown up world works 😉

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:32 AM

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Yup

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Define and build a brand that's differentiated from the others. Profit

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If you fail at any of those you go out of business

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If you want to sell things that are "same" or low margin, you have to sell lots and lots and lots - and that's hard

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 9:34 AM

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i need to end this debate because im getting to frustrated

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:34 AM

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Give it another few years/decades, you'll understand the world better 😛

light trout Oct 12, 2018, 9:35 AM

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This is not a debate, we are just educating you on how the world works 😉

pure vine Oct 12, 2018, 9:35 AM

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I mean, apple is getting real fishy

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also still not very good at notifycations, only just added the grouping feature that android has had for 2 versions

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acctualy 3 possibly

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:37 AM

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If you're comparing A to B you'll always find things A can do that B can't 😉

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Pretty sure if you do that comparison the other way around you'll find things Apple has had for many years that Android hasn't

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Like supporting older hardware 😉

light trout Oct 12, 2018, 9:38 AM

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"older" like last (and even this) years models

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:38 AM

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Yeah, at least Pie should help there, hopefully

pure vine Oct 12, 2018, 9:39 AM

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I mean, the open source nature of android means linerage os exists for realy old phone

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My current phone is a one plus one running oreo

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:39 AM

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But, why as a consumer should I have to root and flash my phone - Apple get that right

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(still don't like using Apple phones, just appreciate what they get right)

pure vine Oct 12, 2018, 9:40 AM

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I mean, there is fun stuff you can do with a rooted phone

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:40 AM

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And Google Pay ain't one of them 😉

pure vine Oct 12, 2018, 9:40 AM

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Ive still got that too

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:40 AM

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I've got a rooted phone in my desk drawer that I play with from time to time

pure vine Oct 12, 2018, 9:40 AM

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Systemless roots get arround that issue

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:41 AM

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Cool, it's been a while since I last really explored rooting

pure vine Oct 12, 2018, 9:41 AM

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https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445

XDA Developers

[2018.9.21] Magisk v17.2 - Root & Universal Systemless Interface [...

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some banking apps still find the root, but magisk works quite well for google pay

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although i think the the banking app issue is a balanket ban of linerage

thick scroll Oct 12, 2018, 9:43 AM

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I have got a hard bricked phone in my desk drawer 🙈

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:44 AM

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I recycled the one I bricked 😄

pure vine Oct 12, 2018, 9:44 AM

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My council recycles phones from the curbside

thick scroll Oct 12, 2018, 9:45 AM

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I am gonna soon flash it with the bootloader once i get the jtag tool

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finally hass is flashed 🙈

pure vine Oct 12, 2018, 9:49 AM

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@clever mortar one thing i think apple does well is let go of bloat, Android has the same issue as windows, you can randomly find parts of old android(Like gingerbread android) in oreo

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 9:49 AM

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Im in school isn't im getting enough education?

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:49 AM

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Never stop learning

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Google are tackling that too with API versions, but yeah, not enough pressure there

pure vine Oct 12, 2018, 9:50 AM

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@clever mortar i mean, there are gingerbread UI in the base system

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:51 AM

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Silly Google 😄

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 9:51 AM

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it's hard to learn when you're super hungry and tired because we have almost no brake and were just going from class to class

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 9:52 AM

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That's school for you

pure vine Oct 12, 2018, 9:52 AM

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Ahh, they fixed it, the sim menu used the current API @clever mortar

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 9:53 AM

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we cant even work

pure vine Oct 12, 2018, 9:55 AM

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what point in education are you

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 9:55 AM

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8:th grade

pure vine Oct 12, 2018, 9:56 AM

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what contry?

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 9:56 AM

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sweden

pure vine Oct 12, 2018, 9:59 AM

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I was going to say it gets better as you specilise more in education, but i dont know much about the sweedish education so im not too sure

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 9:59 AM

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okay

pure vine Oct 12, 2018, 10:00 AM

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University Is harder in content, but tends to have a more sane time table

jagged mantle Oct 12, 2018, 10:00 AM

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and we are like 300 more people then this school is built for so the class schedule is very shitty and stressfull

thick scroll Oct 12, 2018, 10:06 AM

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Whats the defaut auth for hassio

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 10:10 AM

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There is no default

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Ah, do you mean the console?

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The console is root, no password

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For the Home Assistant UI, you set it up. For the SSH add-ons, you set it up.

thick scroll Oct 12, 2018, 10:17 AM

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👍

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 10:30 AM

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#330944238910963714 @sharp sedge 😉

thick scroll Oct 12, 2018, 10:49 AM

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This works like so slow on the pi!!

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 10:50 AM

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Pi3 should be fine

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Hass.io is a tiny bit slower than Hassbian on a Pi, but not by much

thick scroll Oct 12, 2018, 10:50 AM

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yeah, pi3 but having used better servers, so the pi3 feels slow now xD

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Just gonna switch to the main server asap

pure vine Oct 12, 2018, 11:04 AM

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Good plan

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It runs really nicely with lots of ram and a SQL server

thick scroll Oct 12, 2018, 11:18 AM

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got it running the docker way on the main server

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Its config time!

thick scroll Oct 12, 2018, 1:02 PM

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I think I will just change my IOT device from http operated to MQTT operated, It currently works by toggling devices on GET request 🙈 (I was 14 when I made it)

pure vine Oct 12, 2018, 1:32 PM

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what does the device do @thick scroll

thick scroll Oct 12, 2018, 1:34 PM

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control room devices (7 lights, 1 fan) thats it

pure vine Oct 12, 2018, 2:31 PM

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Got memes, soon to be banned

📎 eu2eghlgjkr11.jpg

pure vine Oct 12, 2018, 3:25 PM

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I hate API where you have to fill out a form and they assume you are a company

light trout Oct 12, 2018, 3:27 PM

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Me, myself and I inc.

vale shale Oct 12, 2018, 3:29 PM

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Lol

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 3:30 PM

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ACME

last plaza Oct 12, 2018, 3:32 PM

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Here are a few company names you can use https://biznamewiz.com/funny-business-names/

pure vine Oct 12, 2018, 3:49 PM

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I accedently deleted my mosquitto config

clever mortar Oct 12, 2018, 3:50 PM

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~backup

velvet horizonBOT Oct 12, 2018, 3:50 PM

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Be sure to regularly, automatically, back up your Home Assistant install. There are various critical files and configuration options (like the Z-Wave network key), plus all your time. Hass.io has snapshots, and for unix type installs see https://blog.ceard.tech/2017/10/backing-up-home-assistant.html. Oh, and most important of all test your ability to restore regularly.

pure vine Oct 12, 2018, 4:11 PM

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Yeah, im going to run a local git repo there

hidden finch Oct 13, 2018, 12:44 AM

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Wow... After looking at benchmarks I need to get my rpi 3b+ booting and running from an SSD

carmine finch Oct 13, 2018, 2:10 AM

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I regularly backup to github for my configuration and supporting files and keep a local copy of secret files, is this enough to restore a crash or should I be backing up entire raspberry pi?

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Also, I've created script to backup all files except secrets and known_devices, but I've added a readme.md file and it does not appear in github

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I don't know what mosquitto is?

pure vine Oct 13, 2018, 2:20 AM

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@carmine finch yeah, anything in .homeassistant should be enough to recover home assistant from

turbid ember Oct 13, 2018, 3:47 PM

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I have a Google Calendar generated by our Waste Management service provider that I want to integrate with HA, and I've got it set up: "calendar.888_address_city_province_country" (That's how it was automatically set up when I copied the iCal address. However, I've deduced that HA doesn't like the number first, but I don't seem to have any ability to change that...
I get this error: Error rendering template: TemplateSyntaxError: expected token 'end of print statement', got '_address_city_province_country'

light trout Oct 13, 2018, 4:15 PM

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@fathom sparrow You are going to get burned 😛

📎 unknown.png

delicate wolf Oct 13, 2018, 4:37 PM

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?rank other

slim rampartBOT Oct 13, 2018, 4:37 PM

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@delicate wolf, you joined Other.

twin harbor Oct 13, 2018, 8:38 PM

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has any medium ever carried as much advertising against itself as cable?

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when tv came around, were there radio ads during every commercial break saying "radio is terrible, get a TV!"

pure vine Oct 14, 2018, 10:25 AM

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@twin harbor what do you mean against itself

orchid rose Oct 14, 2018, 2:18 PM

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I assumed he meant streaming services etc advertising on TV on how much more they can offer

midnight adder Oct 14, 2018, 3:28 PM

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Question regarding reverse proxies: If using a reverse proxy such as nginx, Caddy or Traefik, would you setup services "behind" the proxies, communicate on plain http? For example: when running, say, Hassio with addons that have their own frontend, ie nodered, grafana, etc, would I setup those without https, and only have the reverse proxy (in combination with letsencrypt) manage the https part?

pure vine Oct 14, 2018, 4:00 PM

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thats how ive done it with plain HTTP, i dont know if it is the best way to do it

midnight adder Oct 14, 2018, 4:52 PM

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Thanks!

lost moth Oct 14, 2018, 5:34 PM

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Hey, I'm new here

last plaza Oct 14, 2018, 5:35 PM

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@lost moth welcome, mr.hankey!

lost moth Oct 14, 2018, 5:36 PM

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😉

midnight adder Oct 14, 2018, 5:58 PM

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and @pure vine how do you set the base url then for hassio? Is it the internal url or ip on your LAN or the outside domain you are using?

pure vine Oct 14, 2018, 6:19 PM

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I think i left it, ill check later @midnight adder

fair monolith Oct 14, 2018, 7:02 PM

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@midnight adder I would use plain HTTP if on the same server

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even if on different servers... i would use an encrypted tunnel and still use http to keep things simple

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why? some apps do not support https or have poor support of it

midnight adder Oct 14, 2018, 7:04 PM

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with "encrypted tunnel" you mean vpn?

fair monolith Oct 14, 2018, 7:05 PM

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I suppose thats another name for it, yes 😛

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I tend to do it at layer 2 tho

midnight adder Oct 14, 2018, 7:05 PM

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my osi knowledge is too far gone to remember what that is exactly

fair monolith Oct 14, 2018, 7:06 PM

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MAC address layer

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ip addresses are at layer 3

midnight adder Oct 14, 2018, 7:06 PM

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and that would require constant vpn connection if I want to use the ios app for location tracking I guess?

fair monolith Oct 14, 2018, 7:06 PM

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@midnight adder thats what the reverse proxy with ssl is for

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if you used traefik.... it would manage your certs and foward home.vmnode.pw to your HA server as an example

midnight adder Oct 14, 2018, 7:07 PM

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then I misunderstood: I thought you meant instead of reverse proxy with ssl, use an encrypted tunnel... but you're not.

fair monolith Oct 14, 2018, 7:07 PM

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oh, I would use the tunnel if I ran the reverse proxy on another server

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the reverse proxy does not have to be at the same location as the rest of your stuff 😃

midnight adder Oct 14, 2018, 7:08 PM

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got it now, thanks makes sense It is all running on the same server, so plain http for internal comms and let traefik use ssl for the ouside worlf

fair monolith Oct 14, 2018, 7:08 PM

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ya

midnight adder Oct 14, 2018, 7:08 PM

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no, I know, but it is in my case

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additionally, I then want to setup cloudflare and traefik only accepting traffic from CF IP's, but thats another chapter I guess

fair monolith Oct 14, 2018, 7:09 PM

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that is also possible

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you edit the traefik config file and tell it to only accept their ip ranges

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you tell your dns provider to use cloudflare and you MUST USE THE CLOUDFLARE TRAEFIK PLUGIN for generating certs

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if you do not, it will fail 😃

midnight adder Oct 14, 2018, 7:13 PM

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Thanks for the tips. I have been puzzling with cloudflare for awhile and have not got it to work yet. Also traefik is not yet up and running, but I'll get there

fair monolith Oct 14, 2018, 7:13 PM

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https://geek-cookbook.funkypenguin.co.nz/ha-docker-swarm/traefik/

Traefik - Funky Penguin's Geek Cookbook

The

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traefik really shines when you use it with docker containers or something similar

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I make a dns entry, add 2 tags for traefik in the docker compose file and done

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traefik does the rest

midnight adder Oct 14, 2018, 7:15 PM

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yeah, that's how I got interested in it and i noticed it found all backends automatically, except ha. But I'll look at that cookbook, thanks! Although a swarm setup for my HA will probably not work as I am still using a few zwave devices that require a usb stick to be plugged in, so stuck to that node in the swarm

fair monolith Oct 14, 2018, 7:15 PM

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ya but you can docker compose it up

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and I think you can pass through usb devices

midnight adder Oct 14, 2018, 7:16 PM

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have to go now, mind if I find you once I get going on this again?

fair monolith Oct 14, 2018, 7:16 PM

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docker pass through usb devices

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go ahead

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https://stackoverflow.com/questions/24225647/docker-a-way-to-give-access-to-a-host-usb-or-serial-device

Stack Overflow

Docker - a way to give access to a host USB or serial device?

Last time I checked, Docker didn't have any means to give container access to host serial or USB port. Is there a trick which allows doing that?

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how to pass through usb devices

midnight adder Oct 14, 2018, 7:17 PM

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thanks, very helpful already! I did get the usb passthrough on 1 docker host, but not on a swarm yet. But for now, bedtime here 😃 Thanks!

fair monolith Oct 14, 2018, 7:18 PM

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ya, I would not swarm HA

vale shale Oct 14, 2018, 7:38 PM

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@midnight adder you can run a swarm in docker with a usb stick.

pure vine Oct 14, 2018, 10:40 PM

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@fair monolith I would still have a HTTPS somewhere as a lot of browsers are dropping HTTP support, or limit what you can do over it, its also not to hard now

fair monolith Oct 14, 2018, 10:41 PM

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@pure vine yes... its https at the traefik end

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which is what the web browser would connect to

pure vine Oct 14, 2018, 10:42 PM

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But i would do if i was using a reverse proxy Home Assistant --HTTP--> Apache or NGINX --HTTPS--> THE WILD WEB --HTTPS--> Your browser

red radish Oct 14, 2018, 10:44 PM

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OK, so I am total newb to both Hass.io and rapsberry pi. I have not yet bought an RPI3 yet, but have an RPI 2 model B. I downloaded the image, put on a micro SD card, and booted it up. It did a bunch of stuff, then stopped. I had tried to give it internet by bridging my PC's wireless over to the ethernet port. That didn't seem to work; I wasn't able to get to hassio.local:portwhatever.

I have a USB wifi adapter, but not sure how to get drivers on (I had tried a usb bluetooth thing for the wireless keyboard that came with the Kano computer but it wouldn't boot). Even if I get the USB wifi thing working, all the tutorials I see are for a resinOS thing to get HassIO, but hte image I downloaded is HassOS and there is no resin anything that I can see

At some point I'll get an RPI3 with built in wifi, but was hoping to play with this in the mean time a bit.

Anyone willing to give some suggestions to a newb?

fair monolith Oct 14, 2018, 10:45 PM

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@pure vine I go docker > Ha http> traefik network > traefik > serve to the world wide web with https from traefik

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this traefik network will go over an encrypted tunnel to the host hosting my reverse proxy

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@red radish does it not show up on a lan scan?

red radish Oct 14, 2018, 10:51 PM

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I did not try that, I will try that on my next go. When I couldn't get to it I just assumed I F'd something up. I'll try a normal USB keyboard. Do operating systems for RPI normally have some USB drivers pre-installed?

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sure enough holo, you are right that it does show up on my router. so that is a success. Maybe I'm not waiting log enough for it to do things

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oh, and I can get to it typing in the IP address directly well. xxx.xxx.xxx.36:8123. Any ideas why hassio.local:8123 didn't work? Now I know I need to wait a while, will go have a drink and come back in a while

fair monolith Oct 14, 2018, 11:50 PM

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@red radish mdns

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could be a setting on your router

red radish Oct 15, 2018, 12:02 AM

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hmm, I'm not seeing that on the router, may have to research and dig in

red radish Oct 15, 2018, 12:38 AM

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is RPI2 super slow? Over an hour later and I'm still getting "Preparing Hass.io, this may take up to 20 minutes"

red radish Oct 15, 2018, 11:04 AM

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Or maybe the better question is how much does it need to download from the internet? 3+ hours later and it still wasnt done

lofty pulsar Oct 15, 2018, 1:39 PM

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is the site down again? I can't visit it (The Netherlands)

pure vine Oct 15, 2018, 1:41 PM

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what site

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Both https://home-assistant.io and https://community.home-assistant.io/ are up

Home Assistant

Open source home automation that puts local control and privacy first.

Home Assistant Community

Open-source home automation platform running on Python 3.

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for me in the UK

lofty pulsar Oct 15, 2018, 1:43 PM

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Yeah it's fixed now. It didn't work a few minutes ago

orchid rose Oct 15, 2018, 1:45 PM

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is there a way to relink the Google Assistant or do I need to unlink and add all the devices again?

lofty pulsar Oct 15, 2018, 1:46 PM

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Okay Google sync devices

orchid rose Oct 15, 2018, 1:47 PM

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won't work migrating to the new system as you need to do it through the Home app

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to login etc

lofty pulsar Oct 15, 2018, 1:48 PM

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what exactly is the scenario?

orchid rose Oct 15, 2018, 1:49 PM

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updated Hass to the newest version which changes how google_assistant works

orchid rose Oct 15, 2018, 2:09 PM

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well unliked and linked again. Wasn't too much work anyway

pure vine Oct 15, 2018, 2:13 PM

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What do people here define as internet of shit as it seem to have become a word only used by paranoid people where as it used to describe poorly secured IoT devices

orchid rose Oct 15, 2018, 2:22 PM

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I don't think it's just about the security but the lack of smart in these devices

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that's where Hass comes in for me 😉

twin harbor Oct 15, 2018, 2:23 PM

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some of it is lack of security, some of it is lack of smarts, some of it is lack of commitment from the vendors

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lack of commitment meaning companies that either go belly-up or just stop supporting the product after a short time

orchid rose Oct 15, 2018, 2:24 PM

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and on that point it doesn't help how scattered the whole market currently is

twin harbor Oct 15, 2018, 2:25 PM

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and all the big players want to make everything 100% cloud-dependent

pure vine Oct 15, 2018, 2:26 PM

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I'm liking the growing use of the esp chips in Chinese devices tho

orchid rose Oct 15, 2018, 2:36 PM

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I'm struggling a bit to find anything interesting myself to try and "make smart" besides the lights and entertainment system

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some of it because there's only so much you can do in a rental apartment, but I think it's mostly my lack of imagination

twin harbor Oct 15, 2018, 2:47 PM

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i made an esp8266 device that sticks to my washer and dryer with magnets that sends vibration information to home assistant (and node-red) to let me know when clothes are done

orchid rose Oct 15, 2018, 2:49 PM

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haha, that's pretty cool

fervent patrol Oct 15, 2018, 2:51 PM

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maybe someone know.. are there any projects about rooting/flashing custom fw on google home mini?

orchid rose Oct 15, 2018, 3:00 PM

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planning on using the hardware for something completely different? I'm guessing Google won't allow connections from any non-standard fw?

fervent patrol Oct 15, 2018, 4:06 PM

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@orchid rose I was thinking about running picovoice on it, but can't see any projects in this area so I guess it's.. hard 😃

sacred hornet Oct 15, 2018, 4:45 PM

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im trying to add a commit to HA docs, but i think im doing it wrong

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could someone please help me

light trout Oct 15, 2018, 4:46 PM

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How far did you get?

sacred hornet Oct 15, 2018, 4:46 PM

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i have submitted it, i think

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https://github.com/home-assistant/home-assistant.io/pull/6821

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not sure where to go from here

light trout Oct 15, 2018, 4:47 PM

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Yes you have :)
Now you wait untill someone has the time to review it 😃

sacred hornet Oct 15, 2018, 4:47 PM

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ahh, so i did it correctly

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wow, im glad

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i really thought id screw up, since its only my second time

light trout Oct 15, 2018, 4:48 PM

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initially it looks correct to me (but I'm not a reviewer there so can't really say) 😃

sacred hornet Oct 15, 2018, 4:48 PM

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no problem mate, thanks for the guidance

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just trying to give back to this wonderful community

light trout Oct 15, 2018, 4:49 PM

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The netlify build passed, that is a good sign 😄

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Make sure you sign -up here https://hacktoberfest.digitalocean.com/ if you do 5 PR's in october you get a t-shirt 😃

sacred hornet Oct 15, 2018, 4:50 PM

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im too much of a noob. i dont think ill get 5 prs 😦

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but thanks for the link mate

light trout Oct 15, 2018, 4:51 PM

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You have 1 now, and it's still 2 more weeks to go 😉

sacred hornet Oct 15, 2018, 4:54 PM

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😃

pure vine Oct 15, 2018, 5:00 PM

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I need to do 2/1 more pr

shy comet Oct 15, 2018, 5:30 PM

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i was able to get a few PR's in for hacktoberfest

light trout Oct 15, 2018, 5:34 PM

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I see at least 8 from you 😄

shy comet Oct 15, 2018, 5:41 PM

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haha yea i started digging through the code adding unique ID's for entity registry 😛 and also the usual Neato stuff

gloomy canyon Oct 15, 2018, 6:04 PM

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my cable router makes me agressive... i think i need a real wifi ap

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any recommendations?

sacred hornet Oct 15, 2018, 6:05 PM

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have you tried any unifi products?

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mind you, the uni AP's are just AP;s

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you would need to get a separate router to actually get internet

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:07 PM

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issue with unifi is... you need a device to host the controller, a router, then you need the APs

sacred hornet Oct 15, 2018, 6:07 PM

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you dont need the controller 100% of the time

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just when you wwant to track stuff or modify settings

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it can run headless iirc

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:08 PM

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@sacred hornet you want one for logs.... good thing you can host it on google's compute for free

sacred hornet Oct 15, 2018, 6:08 PM

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@fair monolith i did not know that you can host it on google compute

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im running it on my VM, which also houses my HA and other services

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:09 PM

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ya, let me find that lazy setup script that self updates

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and it auto repairs the database

sacred hornet Oct 15, 2018, 6:09 PM

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now that would be awesome

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thanks a ton 😃

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:10 PM

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https://metis.fi/en/2018/02/unifi-on-gcp/

Metis.fi

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Set up UniFi Controller on Google Cloud Platform - Metis.fi

Google offers one free virtual machine on Google Cloud Platform. This script will make setting up a UniFi Controller on GCP a breeze and it includes all the goodies. No command line required, everything is done in the GCP Console and it takes 15 minutes total and that include...

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guide on step by step to do this on their always free tier

sacred hornet Oct 15, 2018, 6:11 PM

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Awesome, thanks a ton. certainly gonna do some reading up on it:)

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:11 PM

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yes, this includes lets encrypt ❤

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 6:11 PM

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ewww i would not want that running the cloud

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:12 PM

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@buoyant anvil well, I get things like email updates when my network at home goes down

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 6:12 PM

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put something in the cloud that can update firmware on my access points, reconfigure them, reboot them etc.. what could go wrong

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also, if you just have one AP you dont need the controller involved in your HA config

gloomy canyon Oct 15, 2018, 6:14 PM

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hm I'd like to have an extra ssid for my esps

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:14 PM

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@buoyant anvil its nice for logs, DPI statistics

gloomy canyon Oct 15, 2018, 6:14 PM

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is that possible with a unifi ap?

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:14 PM

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@gloomy canyon easy to do

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 6:14 PM

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ahh you only get that stuff if you have the unifi switches and security gateway

gloomy canyon Oct 15, 2018, 6:14 PM

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hm

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:14 PM

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you can put them on their own ESSID that is on its own vlan

gloomy canyon Oct 15, 2018, 6:14 PM

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sounds nice

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 6:14 PM

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if you are just looking for presence and just have one AP, then you dont have to go through controller

gloomy canyon Oct 15, 2018, 6:14 PM

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my esps lose the connection all the time

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i keep restarting this crappy piece of ....

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:15 PM

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@buoyant anvil I have the gateway and a LR AP that I got for $50 used

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having the controller is fantastic for logs

torpid bobcat Oct 15, 2018, 6:15 PM

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Anybody tried Mozilla Things gateway? https://hacks.mozilla.org/2018/10/home-monitoring-with-things-gateway-0-6/

Mozilla Hacks – the Web developer blog

Home Monitoring with Things Gateway 0.6 – Mozilla Hacks - the We...

The latest version of the Things Gateway rolling out today comes with new home monitoring features that let you directly monitor your home over the web, without a middleman. That ...

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 6:16 PM

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ive got a unifi ac-pro and really like it.. was able to setup the max 4 vlans on it... have one wifi vlan for guests, another for handhelds, another for my trusted devices and yet another for IOT

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:16 PM

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@buoyant anvil you can do 802.11x to have more than 4 vlans

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 6:16 PM

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@fair monolith yea for sure if you are going to have more than just a single AP you really want a perm controller

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:16 PM

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I only have 1 AP so far... but the logs is bless

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 6:16 PM

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Holo yea i know the spec will support it.. the issue is their ui seems to limit you to 4

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4 per profile i think it says

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:17 PM

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@buoyant anvil should only be 4 for the ESSIDs

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you really do not want too many ESSIDs

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you can use MAC address based vlan assignment or use 802.11x accounts with your own RADIUS server or the built in one in their gateway

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MAC address based vlan assignment will also use the RADIUS server

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 6:20 PM

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hrmm yea hadnt really considered going that route.. at the time IOT consisted of my hue lights and a fire TV.. since then it has sort of expanded.. although i dont mind having those all in the same vlan

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im less concerned with protecting them from each other and more from keeping them away from the stuff i do worry about

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:22 PM

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Indeed, I did an IoT ESSID on its own IoT vlan only on 2.4 Ghz range. Then I added a firewall rule so that it could not start NEW connections to the rest of my lan

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 6:22 PM

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yep yep

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:23 PM

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no communication errors since my lan can start the talking to the devices, I also needed MDNS refection for homekit.

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 6:24 PM

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yea only issue ive had with my segregation is that denon helos apps are very poorly written and assume a flat /24 network

gloomy canyon Oct 15, 2018, 6:24 PM

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does anybody use a mesh network with unifi?

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i need 2 aps, one upstairs and another in the basement

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dunno if a mesh network is the best option.. or simply 2 ssids with the same name

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:25 PM

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@buoyant anvil I give everything a flat /24 net

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 6:26 PM

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yea the issue was that i wanted HEOS in IOT network and i had to put it in the hand helds network so that the damn app would talk to them

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:26 PM

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@gloomy canyon can you run wires to both locations to where you would put the APs?

gloomy canyon Oct 15, 2018, 6:26 PM

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yep

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 6:26 PM

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when you add the device, it looks at your IP of your phone/tablet.. and then gives you blank where you are allowed to provide only the last octet

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:27 PM

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if so, you do not want to mesh but tune the AP transmit power so the devices roam between the 2

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If not, then yes you are meshing, and yes you are still using the same SSID

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 6:27 PM

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yea use the transparent roaming features that unifi has for sure

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although be damn sure you set a strong 20-30char pwd as that new attack can brute force your psk if not

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:28 PM

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or key exchange a lot more?

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err cycle

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 6:28 PM

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youd have to cycle the key like every few weeks if you wanted to use a shorter pwd

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cant recall stats but they broke a like 12 or 16 character one with a 4x GPUs and a week

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:29 PM

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I rekey every 3600 seconds

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 6:29 PM

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no i mean the PSK

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:29 PM

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ah

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 6:29 PM

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not the temporal key or whatever that is negotiated

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:30 PM

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well, that would show up in my logs as a major issue along with emails

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 6:30 PM

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what as a new device?

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cause they just need to passively see a single packet go across then they can go off and brute force your psk

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:31 PM

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unless it just sits there and captures everything before trying to crack it internally

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 6:31 PM

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https://medium.com/@adam.toscher/new-attack-on-wpa-wpa2-using-pmkid-96c3119f7f99

Medium

New attack on WPA/WPA2 using PMKID – Adam Toscher – Medium

In this short blog, I will walk you through the process of obtaining a valid PMKID packet, and converting those frames of data to hashcat…

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and a cert write up: https://cert.europa.eu/static/SecurityAdvisories/2018/CERT-EU-SA2018-019.pdf

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:33 PM

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from vulnerable devices... so the router has to be vulnerable?

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 6:34 PM

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yes.. " it seems it should work in all wifi routers using the protocols 802.11i/p/q/r with roaming enabled"

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apparently having that roaming functionality is a key part of it

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:35 PM

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well shit

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there goes my IoT vlan

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 6:35 PM

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if you use radius then you are in the clear

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:36 PM

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ya except for my IoT

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cant really do a proper 802.11x on those... and my Nintendo switch....

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 6:37 PM

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ahh well if you just have one AP then you can just turn off that roaming feature it sounds like.. or beef up your pwds

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:37 PM

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ya, Im going to beef it up

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may as well go to 64 char passwords

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 6:38 PM

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shouldnt be too awful long before our unifi APs get a wpa3 update

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you sadist 😛

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ive got some iot devices that were a HUGE pita to get on wifi as is with a 16char key

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:39 PM

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ya..... I am not looking forward to reconnecting everything

pure vine Oct 15, 2018, 6:40 PM

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Is WPA hardware dependent or can updating openWRT add support

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:40 PM

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well... Im seeing some existing hardware get wpa3

gloomy canyon Oct 15, 2018, 6:40 PM

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hm ac pro/ac lite...

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 6:40 PM

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from what i read it can all be done software, the big question is can your current device support it without bottleneck

gloomy canyon Oct 15, 2018, 6:41 PM

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sometimes i hate buying new software

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err hardware

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😄

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:41 PM

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@gloomy canyon how many devices?

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and do not get the pro... you want the nano HD

gloomy canyon Oct 15, 2018, 6:41 PM

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hm dunno maybe 10?

pure vine Oct 15, 2018, 6:41 PM

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wasnt most of the breaking changes with the old standard to do with encryption support

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 6:41 PM

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ohh why not the pro? ive got pro myself?

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:42 PM

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the light should be enough then unless you want some futureproofing

gloomy canyon Oct 15, 2018, 6:42 PM

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let me count.. 7 esp8266, 3 esp32, 2 smartphones, 2 tablets and 2 laptops

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 6:42 PM

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yea and that some times came down to hardware accelerated encryption for this algorithm being supported while the new one is not

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and thus the perf drops to the point you dont want to try it

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:42 PM

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@buoyant anvil the nano HD MIMO Chains 4x4

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it does not cost that much more over the pro

pure vine Oct 15, 2018, 6:43 PM

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given most modern routers use some form of arm chip support is likely to continue

gloomy canyon Oct 15, 2018, 6:43 PM

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Title Ubiquiti UniFi AP AC NanoHD Wave2, Poe-Inj incl. <-- that one?

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167€

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:44 PM

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yep

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you should be set for the next 10 years

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(I ended the last of my N devices this year)

pure vine Oct 15, 2018, 6:45 PM

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Imagine a router with a FPGA accelrated encryption so new encryption standards can be accelerated just with changing what it loaded into the FPGA

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 6:46 PM

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ahh i see the nanoHD stuff didnt exist why i bought my AP

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:47 PM

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@buoyant anvil ya its shiny new, they fixed A LOT of issues in their last update

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 6:47 PM

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looks like mu-mimo is the big new feature

gloomy canyon Oct 15, 2018, 6:48 PM

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"Thanks, processing your order..."

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:48 PM

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indeed, it should do wonders once all devices support it

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 6:49 PM

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something has to give, its going to be hard to handle 3 and 4 4k streams simultaneously

gloomy canyon Oct 15, 2018, 6:49 PM

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oh nice there is a devicetracker component for hass

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:49 PM

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@buoyant anvil not on the nano HD?

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 6:50 PM

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just talking about wifi in general with where it currently sits.. for so many years home users were doing nothing to challenge them

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but you have 3 or 4 TVs trying to stream 4k and now your wireless needs up its game

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 6:51 PM

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Oh ya, I am glad that mesh networking is becoming a thing for home users.

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need to cover that house in 5G for some decent speeds

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esp that $330 amplefi kit

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slap those extenders on outlets on each side of the house and call it a day

pure vine Oct 15, 2018, 7:00 PM

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ehh, not as good for speed and latency, but good ennough for most people

fair monolith Oct 15, 2018, 7:04 PM

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@pure vine its good enough and should have low enough latency to even game

orchid rose Oct 15, 2018, 7:38 PM

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This Google Home app is just awful. Have they actually tried using this shitty UI before releasing it?

clever mortar Oct 15, 2018, 7:50 PM

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While it ain't perfect, I think it's a big improvement overall

orchid rose Oct 15, 2018, 7:55 PM

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Maybe I'm just not used to it but to me it feels pretty awful. As did the last one as well tbf

uneven cobalt Oct 15, 2018, 8:02 PM

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I find it better then the alexa app but it is still easy to get lost in it

midnight adder Oct 15, 2018, 8:04 PM

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Greetings from Italy

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 8:14 PM

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what google home app is this?

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this something new in HA i missed?

orchid rose Oct 15, 2018, 8:16 PM

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google home app on android to set up google home

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and there's still so much random stuff as well. Set up a morning routine that plays news. They play on all of my speakers which is fine, that's the default setting for the GHMini. Then set up good night routine with exactly the same idea but with "play sleep sounds" but those play on GHM and there's no way to change it... Also my JBL speaker now has a function to set up a speaker pair, but neither my GHM nor Chromecast Audio has this option

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and chromecast still can't be added to an audio group

buoyant anvil Oct 15, 2018, 10:16 PM

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ahh yea ive gotten away from google home features to the point all i use it for is voice interaction with my HA stuff and creating alarms for my meetings as im using lotus notes like were 1995 at work

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ohhh whoops i was talking about google assistant, i hadnt seen this google home app till now.. the assistant is actually why i started using HA... it lacked the control i wanted to have over lights..

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hrmm yea this is not very far along at all it seems.. cant even manage color on the hue lights

amber bramble Oct 15, 2018, 11:09 PM

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bah, furnace decided it doesn't want to work right.

pure vine Oct 15, 2018, 11:18 PM

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Google hates my name and has no way to train it

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Alexa gets it sometimes

graceful olive Oct 16, 2018, 6:03 AM

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I noticed that I can only load HA from my desktop linux dev box, it doesnt load from the laptop or tablet? Am I missing something?

patent slate Oct 16, 2018, 8:04 AM

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It does not load on the phone of my gf, too

amber bramble Oct 16, 2018, 12:03 PM

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should load on any device assuming you're using the correct IP address and the networking is set up right (port forwarding, firewall, etc)

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assuming its a new enough browser

jagged mantle Oct 16, 2018, 1:32 PM

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Does mosquito save all mqtt request or what it's called

pure vine Oct 16, 2018, 1:52 PM

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Persistence?

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Mosquito is one of the most complete mqtt implementations

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IIRC

untold dust Oct 16, 2018, 3:11 PM

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?rank other

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@untold dust, you joined Other.

jagged mantle Oct 16, 2018, 3:45 PM

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i cant find a better channel but im trying to run this command but i only get Invalid JSON curl -X PUT -H 'Content-Type:applicaiton/json' -X PUT http://192.168.1.247/gateways/0x1/rgbw/0 -d {\"command\":\"set_white\"}

near nova Oct 16, 2018, 4:19 PM

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@jagged mantle Probably your quotes, try this:

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curl -X PUT -H 'Content-Type:applicaiton/json' http://192.168.1.247/gateways/0x1/rgbw/0 -d '{"command":"set_white"}'

jagged mantle Oct 16, 2018, 4:20 PM

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thats not working

near nova Oct 16, 2018, 4:20 PM

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Error message?

jagged mantle Oct 16, 2018, 4:20 PM

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invalid json

clever mortar Oct 16, 2018, 4:27 PM

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You can't spell application 😉

shy comet Oct 16, 2018, 4:29 PM

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lol

sacred hornet Oct 16, 2018, 4:31 PM

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@clever mortar i have no idea how you spotted that one, we all missed it for sure 😦

clever mortar Oct 16, 2018, 4:32 PM

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Because it's often the fresh pair of eyes that spots these things

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After I ruled out the JSON being invalid (it looked valid and I ran it through https://jsonlint.com/ to be sure) I checked the command line for typos

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I happen to do a lot of curl calls with JSON myself

pure vine Oct 16, 2018, 4:33 PM

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what are you talking to anyway

jagged mantle Oct 16, 2018, 4:33 PM

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I copy and pasted it from the project page for esp milight hub 😂

sacred hornet Oct 16, 2018, 4:34 PM

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haha, you are one awesome person bro

thin zenith Oct 16, 2018, 6:06 PM

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?rank other

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@thin zenith, you joined Other.

light trout Oct 16, 2018, 6:10 PM

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@clever mortar i usually do culr commands 😜

last plaza Oct 16, 2018, 6:54 PM

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@light trout where do I learn more about culr?

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😂

vapid crow Oct 16, 2018, 6:55 PM

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That @clever mortar is quite a good one.

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even spotted my bad stuff 😉

light trout Oct 16, 2018, 6:56 PM

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I think I saw something about it on the forum @last plaza

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Maybe ask @velvet horizon ?

last plaza Oct 16, 2018, 6:57 PM

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.8ball what is the best place to learn about culr?

velvet horizonBOT Oct 16, 2018, 6:57 PM

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:8ball:

8Ball Prediction:

Not A Chance

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skalavala's github repo is at https://www.github.com/skalavala and his cheat sheets are at https://skalavala.github.io/

last plaza Oct 16, 2018, 6:57 PM

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LOL

light trout Oct 16, 2018, 6:58 PM

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🤣

last plaza Oct 16, 2018, 6:58 PM

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@clever mortar have you used ~subscribe command yet?

vapid crow Oct 16, 2018, 6:58 PM

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I hate it... I started tinkering with home-assistant back on minecraft. THAT was evil.

clever mortar Oct 16, 2018, 6:58 PM

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I haven't actually

velvet horizonBOT Oct 16, 2018, 6:58 PM

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did you see it in the json file @last plaza ?

last plaza Oct 16, 2018, 6:59 PM

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I did not 😉

velvet horizonBOT Oct 16, 2018, 6:59 PM

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There you go 😉

vapid crow Oct 16, 2018, 7:01 PM

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I didn't see that my home would work as well as a few redstone dust wired to some LUA script for HomeAssistant stuff

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is there a way to get the events for the day of a calendar sensor?

light trout Oct 16, 2018, 7:05 PM

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1: Open clendar
2: Look at events
3: Close calendar
done 😄

last plaza Oct 16, 2018, 7:07 PM

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☑

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~calendar

velvet horizonBOT Oct 16, 2018, 7:07 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/components/calendar/

vapid crow Oct 16, 2018, 7:07 PM

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All I get there is the 'on' and 'off' status in case of an ongoing event

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the idea I am trying to do is to extend my morning routine

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thinking of having some briefing

last plaza Oct 16, 2018, 7:08 PM

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here is how I use that calendar in my code - it is not just on/off https://github.com/skalavala/smarthome/blob/master/templates/home_status.yaml#L52

light trout Oct 16, 2018, 7:08 PM

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~8ball is the calendar just on/off

velvet horizonBOT Oct 16, 2018, 7:08 PM

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:8ball:

8Ball Prediction:

Consult Me Later

last plaza Oct 16, 2018, 7:09 PM

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~8ball how about now?

velvet horizonBOT Oct 16, 2018, 7:09 PM

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:8ball:

8Ball Prediction:

That's Ridiculous!

last plaza Oct 16, 2018, 7:09 PM

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~8ball how about now?

velvet horizonBOT Oct 16, 2018, 7:09 PM

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:8ball:

8Ball Prediction:

That's Ridiculous!

last plaza Oct 16, 2018, 7:09 PM

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~8ball how about now?

velvet horizonBOT Oct 16, 2018, 7:09 PM

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:8ball:

8Ball Prediction:

Consult Me Later

last plaza Oct 16, 2018, 7:09 PM

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🤣

light trout Oct 16, 2018, 7:10 PM

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~8ball are you stuck little friend?

velvet horizonBOT Oct 16, 2018, 7:10 PM

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:8ball:

8Ball Prediction:

Oh Please

last plaza Oct 16, 2018, 7:10 PM

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8ball is serious when it says consult me later!

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~8ball how about now?

velvet horizonBOT Oct 16, 2018, 7:10 PM

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:8ball:

8Ball Prediction:

That's Ridiculous!

light trout Oct 16, 2018, 7:10 PM

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LOL!

last plaza Oct 16, 2018, 7:10 PM

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~8ball how about now?

velvet horizonBOT Oct 16, 2018, 7:10 PM

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:8ball:

8Ball Prediction:

Answer Unclear Ask Later

light trout Oct 16, 2018, 7:10 PM

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~8ball how about now?

velvet horizonBOT Oct 16, 2018, 7:10 PM

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:8ball:

8Ball Prediction:

Not A Chance

light trout Oct 16, 2018, 7:10 PM

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😦

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I think it's mad :/

last plaza Oct 16, 2018, 7:11 PM

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lol

vapid crow Oct 16, 2018, 7:12 PM

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wow. That git code is amazing

light trout Oct 16, 2018, 7:13 PM

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it's jinja not git code 😉

vapid crow Oct 16, 2018, 7:13 PM

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whatever

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that's awesome

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but I have not had my share with macros

vapid crow Oct 16, 2018, 7:36 PM

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btw - thanks for the workday idea

pure vine Oct 16, 2018, 8:04 PM

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myth TV Throwing shade at sky https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/UK_Television#Sky Sky broadcast a number of High Definition channels, but their image quality is frequently described as poor compared to HD offerings from other Broadcasters such as the BBC. Sky HD compares more equally to high bitrate Standard Definition channels on Freeview

UK Television

orchid rose Oct 16, 2018, 8:23 PM

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About a decade ago we had our national broadcasting company sent 1080i signal at around 15-20Mbps for testing purposes and since then we've had nothing like that live. The quality of the current broadcasts is mediocre at best but it seems like it doesn't matter as long as it has HD in the name

amber bramble Oct 16, 2018, 8:32 PM

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one of our local over the air stations is trying to cram 4 different feeds in their limited OTA bandwidth

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anytime you get fast motion like in sports the picture quality drops down to "i-wish-i-was-SD"

pure vine Oct 16, 2018, 8:34 PM

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according to this site, Freeveiw(BBC owned FTA service) has a advrage of 40mbits for HD http://www.astra2sat.com/televison/tv-bitrates/

gloomy canyon Oct 16, 2018, 8:44 PM

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unifi ap up and running 😃

vague ginkgo Oct 16, 2018, 11:13 PM

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So, since google just brought back "Lets Get Spooky" without having the light thing they did last year...

Anyone made this effect with HA before? Any easy drop and go automation that will randomly flicker / dim lights in a spooky haunted house kind of way?

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Figured I'd ask before I tried to do it myself.

rose comet Oct 17, 2018, 12:18 AM

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might have to kill Hass cause I cant pay these ISPs anymore

near plinth Oct 17, 2018, 12:20 AM

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Anyone else experiencing problem with connecting to HA Cloud with payment profile already setup?

pliant forge Oct 17, 2018, 12:27 AM

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@near plinth #cloud-archived

weary geode Oct 17, 2018, 2:34 AM

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?rank other

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@weary geode, you joined Other.

sly maple Oct 17, 2018, 3:23 AM

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?rank other

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@sly maple, you joined Other.

vapid crow Oct 17, 2018, 6:49 AM

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@vague ginkgo you should be able to do 'random' things

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see: https://www.home-assistant.io/components/sensor.random/

Home Assistant

Random Sensor

Instructions on how to integrate random number sensors into Home Assistant.

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adding delays like - delay: '{{ ((range(0, 1) | random) | int) ~ ":" ~ ((range(5, 55) | random) | int) ~ ":" ~ ((range(5, 55) | random) | int) }}'

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@vague ginkgo you could also adapt https://github.com/mertenats/Open-Home-Automation/blob/master/openhome/configuration/home_assistant/automation/automation_4a.yaml

GitHub

mertenats/Open-Home-Automation

Open Home Automation with Home Assistant, ESP8266/ESP32 and MQTT - mertenats/Open-Home-Automation

tight hawk Oct 17, 2018, 7:36 AM

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?rank other

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fair monolith Oct 17, 2018, 7:58 AM

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@light trout I have been trying to make a HA docker setup on ubuntu core for a 100% hands off setup but it appears that traefik hates the snap docker package. should be more robust than hassio? with its ability to auto roll back bad updates

quartz ether Oct 17, 2018, 8:11 AM

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Anyone running HASS docker inside UnRaid

light trout Oct 17, 2018, 9:52 AM

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@fair monolith i have no idea 🤷

quartz ether Oct 17, 2018, 10:44 AM

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Anyone got Control4 dealer software and wants to VPN and re do my system for me?

vague ginkgo Oct 17, 2018, 12:46 PM

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@vapid crow (or anyone really) Is there any way to select which light to turn on/off randomly in an expandable way without writing a different randomizer for each light?

quartz ether Oct 17, 2018, 12:47 PM

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Create a script.

vague ginkgo Oct 17, 2018, 12:48 PM

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yeah... but how..

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like, make some sort of light.random that turning on would just turn on a random light out of a whitelist of lights

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Is that just going to be a bit too complicated for me to do as one of my first automation projects?

quartz ether Oct 17, 2018, 12:51 PM

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There will already be someone who has done it. (I am fairly certain I have seen it before)

vapid crow Oct 17, 2018, 1:01 PM

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@vague ginkgo I'm not a dev. Sitting here for seeking help myself.

quartz ether Oct 17, 2018, 1:03 PM

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https://community.home-assistant.io/t/halloween-automations/5104

Home Assistant Community

Halloween Automations?

Anyone have any cool HA light related Home Automations they want to share? I’m setting up some flashing of the lights as people walk up to the door but am hoping to get more than 10 flashes flash:long.

vapid crow Oct 17, 2018, 1:08 PM

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Is there a way of getting the next event in a caldav calendar?

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I tried to do it with a template, but I do not get any data

vague ginkgo Oct 17, 2018, 1:08 PM

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fair enough 😛