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#the-water-cooler
slim rampartBOT
gilded wadi
thx
shouldn't some correct this than: " ... which you can give yourself by DMing @velvet horizon and saying: ..."
clever mortar
Yup, I'll nag the person who can fix that
gilded wadi
๐
lethal dust
@rare condor how did you do the integration of the curtains with Google assistant? The stop command seems to be contextual.
keen vapor
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proven willow
Almost have my HA up again, had some issues going from ubuntu 17.04 to 18.04, first repos were gone, then GUI stopped working, suddenly .Xauthority was owned by root! After it was up, I set up new VENV, so HA now renews SSL cert and my duckdns is back. Only no GUI and no error in log :p but will check firewall ports tomorrow and maybe disabling more components not moved to new home/router.
I must say it's a bit difficult to fiddle with a baby, where did the fiddling time go...
rain swift
I did it this way, awesome, simple
it ends up just like the pi install
add the universe repo
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junior forge
For the Dutch peeps:
http://www.ibood.com/electronics-nl/nl/product-specs/41552/148477/google-home-mini-smart-speaker.html
Google Home Mini (not sold in the Netherlands yet), on sale today for a nice price (considering the import)
light trout
Not fair... ๐
clever mortar
Had a deal like that many months ago in the UK, bought enough to put them pretty much everywhere I want one
junior forge
@clever mortar Worth it?
clever mortar
For me, yes
They're generally useful if you're already heavily Google
And the integration with HA is an added bonus
clever mortar
Works well, I can turn things on and off, activate scripts, check the indoor temperature, etc etc
clever mortar
Now just waiting for Sonos to add GA support to the Sonos One so I can replace the Sonos:1 units I've got, and the nearby GHome Minis
The sound from the Mini is "ok", but being able to enjoy the music is a big thing ๐
light trout
Multimedia (spotify+plex) are nice to controll with GH ๐
pure vine
@clever mortar does the google home mini have a 3.5mm out like the echo does
midnight adder
Ive been monitoring my mosquitto broker using the following
mosquitto_sub -u myuser -P mypassword -t "#" -v
Which is now spitting out far too much - is there a way I can subscribe to all topics (#) without subbing to status ?
last plaza
@midnight adder the # means ALL. If you want to subscribe to a specific topic, replace that # with the exact topic name.
midnight adder
yeah, but I want to sub to all except one
low harness
Pipe it through grep -v status
light trout
Should be, add a | between the commands and it should exclude everything with "status"
low harness
Welcome. Itโs basically IRC on steroids.
Well... I got my first pull request accepted to the source the other day... so deeper than most, but less than many.
I mainly dig myself in around the new lovelace interface.
light trout
The fix for packages?
clever mortar
The fix for packages is probably going to resemble the "fix" to allow you to split up the Lovelace config I suspect
It's awesome, and will destroy what free time you have
And then every two weeks a new release comes out, and you upgrade, swear a bit as you realise you skipped reading the breaking changes, and then go read them ๐
midnight adder
i really should look and see what lovelace actually is!
@midnight adder - get out now while you still can. It starts off by controlling a lamp - next thing you know you've taken your boiler apart and you are trying to explain to the wife why its a good idea.
clever mortar
#frontend-archived has the links you need in the channel topic @midnight adder
Key thing is that at a basic level it duplicates what you can do in the stock UI (that's going away), but it can do sooooo much more
midnight adder
thats not a bad idea ........(off to google divorce costs)
clever mortar
#node-red-archived is a very visual way of doing automations. Some love it, some don't
If you know Python, there's also AppDaemon
It doesn't do anything you can't already do in YAML
I don't bother, but then I'm old school, and I prefer to write my automations in text
Heck, I haven't even found the need for AppDaemon yet (which would also require me to re-learn Python)
I started by automating the garden lights, and slowly but surely the reach of the automation is creeping around the house, and beyond ๐
Ummmm, no one favourite thing really, but the top ones are:
- Lighting automations, with lights coming on as it gets dark, and going off when we go to bed/leave the house/it gets bright enough
- Presence based automations, like telling me if my commute home is starting to go to hell, or letting whoever is home know the other is nearly home, so they can ask them to detour via the shops if needed
For me in particular, it's turning on the light by the bed when my alarm goes off
Niiice. I've longer term plans for something similar, using the two sensors is a nice trick I'll need to remember
Well, I like multi-sensors, so one in the bedroom with humidity/light/temperature/motion, and one in the bathroom
low harness
My favorite is a simple one. Turn on the LED strip over my desk when I wake my computer
And sleep the computer/turn off light when I push the pause/break key
I have a systemd service checking if the screen is in sleep mode every five seconds, and update a hass switch via rest
@light trout the config thing fix,yes.
light trout
Awesome! good job ๐
hazy spindle
I had grafana set up for some of my devices in the network. but systems have updated and configs have changed and i havent gone back to set up telegraf on all the things again.. i may start using influxdb here soon for hassio db.
i could do either.. i have both influxdb and mariadb in my network.
i just saw influx first
hazy spindle
oh are you saying that influx just is another destination db and hass doesnt read from it? where as it can utilize mariadb?
vale shale
@last plaza I just found that Facebox takes 4GB of ram! What do you run yours on?
light trout
That would be hard on a RPi ๐
dry cairn
just put a bigger sd in
vale shale
I have a centos netgate SG2440 and it has 2 cores and 4GB of RAM. Facebox need 2 cores and 4GB of ram so I will have to find another machine.
last plaza
I run on dell power edge server. @vale shale
vale shale
Wow. 4GB is hardly anything on that!
proud plaza
I have 8 happy bubbles and 3d printed cases to sell (from UK but will ship). DM if you're interested in them. (mods tell me off and delete if not allowed)
pure vine
Opened my laptop for the first time and found this disaster
dry cairn
meh just speakers
vague ginkgo
@last plaza you say you're running HA on a power edge? Would you recomend one of these then? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-M610-Gen-II-Blade-Server-Dual-Xeon-E5620-8-Cores-2-40GHz/232942414847?epid=4021421170&hash=item363c732bff:g:2DIAAOSwzlFbQQAW
or would this be worth the extra money? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-R610-Server-2x-2-40GHz-Quad-Core-8GB-RAM-SAS6i-iDRAC/192663570760?hash=item2cdba4c948:g:40kAAOSwrbpborGB:sc:FedExHomeDelivery!28210!US!-1
This is my first time looking into servers, so I'm not exactly sure what I'm doing xD
vague ginkgo
My goal is that my rp3b+ is running very slow, I want my HA to be able to not feel so slow and have "Updating device list from nmap_tracker took longer than the scheduled scan interval 0:00:12" all the time from all sorts of components. @midnight adder
And have it be something expandable if I want to give it more jobs in the future
dry cairn
nuc8 if you wanna go big but any i5 nuc or better will do
amber bramble
a poweredge like that is going to be pretty power hungry
dry cairn
thats a baby poweredge
amber bramble
still a lot more power hungry (and noisy) than a pi or a nuc
dry cairn
yup
vague ginkgo
Isn't the Nuc8 going to leave me in the same place as the RP3B+ left me? Isn't that a dead end in terms of expandability?
vague ginkgo
nah XD the lulz is fine, I don't mind laughing at myself.
dry cairn
samsung pro ssd
vague ginkgo
oh wow, I heard some false things about the nuc then!
dry cairn
yep
vague ginkgo
Last I heard about the nuc, it was saying it's basicly an intel based raspberry pi, single board pc
dry cairn
never was
vague ginkgo
someone lied to me ๐ Glad I asked you guys!
dry cairn
i5 will be enough
vague ginkgo
Looking at nuc's now.
dry cairn
i5 16gb 512gb ssd
eager trench
mine is just a celeron 7 series.... that is way superior to a Pi
amber bramble
I moved my setup to a 5 year old dell latitude laptop
dry cairn
mine runs on a nuc8
vague ginkgo
I tried to move mine to a old bookshelf pc, but it ended up having an old Athlon 64 and running hassio in docker in ubuntu is straining this thing more than I thought it would
It was just the pc I had lying around. Would it work better if I had a differnt host os?
dry cairn
still better then a pi
thats the next question
but then hassio and docker
2 of my least favorite things
vague ginkgo
Not even sure how to find out, but I can hardly even get the computer to let me log in in front of it, and there are times in my hassio instance it fails to load the hassio component.
It honestly isn't that much better than the pi...
dry cairn
yup
vague ginkgo
Yeah, maybe it is more of ubuntu desktop than I thought... is there a better host OS to choose from?
dry cairn
unity strikes again
vague ginkgo
really? being a desktop version is that bad?
Well I really made all the wrong choices here XD
dry cairn
ubuntu server
vague ginkgo
Okay, next question...
dry cairn
the new ubuntu ui is a lot better if you turn off animations
vague ginkgo
Can I uninstall the desktop and "downgrade" to the server version?
Is this url accurate? https://askubuntu.com/questions/498362/how-to-migratechange-from-ubuntu-desktop-to-ubuntu-server suggesting this
sudo tasksel remove ubuntu-desktop
sudo tasksel install server
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install linux-server linux-image-server
sudo apt-get purge lightdm```
eager trench
when I installed debian, with desktop on, there were like 1000 extra packages it installed
vague ginkgo
So are those command lines enough to totally remove all the unnecessary stuff I'm running? Or do I need to go fresh install?
eager trench
with debian hahahahaha
vague ginkgo
What would be the best way of fresh installing without totally losing existing hassio?
eager trench
just keep a snapshot
keep the config files as well in case but a snapshot is easier IMO
but then you have to manually install and configure add-ons
white fog
Docker. Just do it/
eager trench
docker seems to make everything easier...
gloomy canyon
@vague ginkgo if you are interested in setting the ecosystem up on a nuc... i wrote a howto for that
I'm using a venv setup but you could just install dockerce and the hassio container instead
pure vine
@vague ginkgo Lemmie check first, but there is a meta package way to do that
pure vine
Linus gave an interveiw to the bbc https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-45664640
vale shale
@trim cliff is doing a livestream! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcBVu_yk2iY
rain swift
I installed hassIO on a vm running ubunter server and then copied my snapshot over and restored, it was perfect
Frenck has the commands to run to download the same image you run on the pi and install it, the only thing he was missing was the universe repo needs to be added
I have them, at home on my laptop lol
toxic ivy
Do I lose out on anything if I use primarily Tradfri bulbs for the 1000 lumen brightness with my Hue hub?
It sounds like I get the best of both worlds when it comes to Hue vs LifeX
rancid lance
@eager trench the point im trying to make is that saying vero is fucking redundant cause vero by itself is only a brand
if hass cant discover the device all you have to point to is that the device is running osmc and kodi is the player
since there isnt anything special with vero
same shit on rpi
diffrent soc
you would say your intel or amd pc right ?
wouldnt*
eager trench
ok but that is what it is auto-detected as. I could be running OSMC on a raspberry pi and it would be detected as something else
eager trench
I was just trying to be clear about what wasn't being detected
rancid lance
cause that is how hass discovers it
rancid lance
should check assuming is always a logic flaw
eager trench
ok... so where will I find that setting? more than happy to check it. (I find the settings somewhat a quagmire at times lol)
rancid lance
its under settings and im in the middle of my morning coffee
probly have to bump it to expert settings in osmc
to see it
eager trench
I am in expert
it was working a couple of hours ago before b3 but I will take a look now
announce services to other systems is on
rancid lance
again zeroconf
eager trench
and the device name is osmc_vero4 surprise surprise
rancid lance
if its not discovered there ha cant find it
eager trench
it is under zero_config
zeroconfig is the headding and announce services to other systems is the setting and it is switched on
I also rebooted the vero as I had previously had it disappear and the solution was to reboot
rancid lance
since your running hass im uncertain what tools you got available
eager trench
it actually won't allow me to toggle it off
rancid lance
but avahi-browse -alr
eager trench
i'm running hassio in docker on debian
rancid lance
i know
eager trench
command not found... I'll try with sudo
nah not available
what package do I need to install?
sinful zealot
hello, does any know, it's possible send notifications to different telegram bots in different period, for example, send notification to bot1 from 7am to 9am, to bot2 from 1pm tp 3pm?
rancid lance
#330944238910963714 please
David again its possible that its not included
since hassiop is a minimal distro
sinful zealot
Wood_daver, do you have example? ๐
sinful zealot
oh, sorry
rancid lance
sudo apt install avahi-utils; avahi-browse -alr
sinful zealot
ok, thanks ๐
eager trench
so if I need a package to run it I can install it or is that not what you mean? I'm not running hassiop... It's a full debian distro install and I'm logged into the host system
ok
rancid lance
on host
eager trench
ok it is seeing osmc_vero4 there in the output
= eno1 IPv4 osmc_vero4 _airplay._tcp local
hostname = [osmcvero4.local]
address = [10.90.11.12]
port = [36667]
txt = ["features=0x20F7" "srcvers=101.28" "model=Xbmc,1" "deviceid=FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:F2"]
= eno1 IPv4 000102030405@osmc_vero4 AirTunes Remote Audio local
hostname = [osmcvero4.local]
address = [10.90.11.12]
port = [36666]
txt = ["vs=130.14" "am=Kodi,1" "md=0,1,2" "da=true" "vn=3" "pw=false" "sr=44100" "ss=16" "sm=false" "tp=UDP" "sv=false" "et=0,1" "ek=1" "ch=2" "cn=0,1" "txtvers=1"]
so there is what it disovers
dont see port 80 there
and that is the controller
all i see is airplay
eager trench
it's on 8080
= eno1 IPv4 osmc_vero4 Web Site local
hostname = [osmcvero4.local]
address = [10.90.11.12]
port = [8080]
txt = []
k then thats discovered too
eager trench
like I said b3
rancid lance
yeah i know what you said no point in repeating yourself
eager trench
sure
rancid lance
next part you can try
and this is inside the container
is
python3 -m netdisco dump
that will show what ha is picking up
eager trench
ok..
eager trench
No module named netdisco
eager trench
in the docker container?
rancid lance
now i need to fuck off to work
yess
since you wanna know what ha is picking up
you need to do it in the container of ha
eager trench
so I can run a console in portainer in the container
rancid lance
cause we establised that host finds kodi without an issue
eager trench
in the homeassistant container right?
well that gives me a wall of text!
ok it's not seeing the IP address or the device in that output
torn mortar
Hello every one, I'm new and happy to be here ๐
midnight adder
Hi all newbie here, based in the UK and running on pi 3+, steep learning curve I have to say but I will get there.
clever mortar
Welcome to the destroyer of sanity, free time, and bank balances ๐
dull osprey
Talkin about me? ^^
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rain swift
noice
hackers of the world unite
hack the planet, hack the planneettt
Does anyone do anything to give a visual indication of if their alarm is armed? Example, a light of some sort by the front and or back door that is red when armed, green when not, to try and mitigate people from forgetting to disarm and opening the door.
low harness
I've been playing around with changing the hass theme on the tablet in my hallway. Green header when disarmed, and red wen armed.
light trout
low harness
I actually cheated in those screenshots and set the theme manually, but it CAN be done by an automation too.
light trout
Cheater!!!! ๐ฎ
๐
I tried to do htat (changing theme with automation), but I found it unstable at best, but not working for the most part :/
low harness
I got theme change on sundown to work reliably.
light trout
@rose comet have you seen the movie?
rose comet
Assuming you're referring to my nick name, no. I was given this name by a mod
My name was not safe for server lol
light trout
Ah , yeah I see that ๐
rose comet
What movie? :P
light trout
last cradle
What's wrong with a moist gun? I keep mine well lubed.
dull chasm
@last cradle in a chat room such as this ... not acceptable
low harness
WHY CAN'T I SPELL SIMMILAR TO SAVE MY LIFE?
I swear I make the same mistake like twice a day on average.
light trout
Twice?
That one and "spesific" are my worst enemies xD
tall escarp
a similar mistake even? ๐
clever mortar
The and teh are the same word in my mind
pure vine
Im worried, there are people not updating
light trout
There are people not learning, that should worry you more ๐
midnight adder
@low harness What if you have a concealed carry, and you don't want people to KNOW you're armed?
low harness
.... I don't get it...
pure vine
@light trout there is a person on the reddit who hasnt update from 0.68, wasnt there a security update since then
midnight adder
@low harness sigh "Green header when disarmed, and red wen armed."
pure vine
bad gun joke
light trout
That is only about 10 version behind I have seen worse :P
But yes, there was a major security fix @pure vine
low harness
Ah. Right. That discussion. Thanks for explaining, and sorry for making you do that.
midnight adder
hahah... I start from oldest and work my way forward when i try to catch up.. my bad
damn.. that WAS 1.5 hours ago
heavy lava
rose comet
being on .68 is not good?
turbid ember
My very thoughtful wife surprised me with a Fire 7 tablet for use for displaying Floorplan! I was using Fully Kiosk on an old Android phone before... But that's only for android, right? What is a good browser option for Amazon?
hidden finch
i really need to get off of the original rpi and upgrade to the rpi 3 b+
im so tired of being so sloooooow
ive just been lazy cuz ill need to recreate a bunch of stuff...maybe ill go with hass.io instead of arch linux and trying to do everything myself
i just really prefer rolling release based systems
white fog
Running ha in avm on a real server runs stupid fast. Or run it in a Docker. Runs great that way as well.
@hidden finch
clever mortar
hidden finch
I'll give it a look
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rose comet
Thanks @clever mortar looks like Im not affected
vague ginkgo
Okay... So I'm completely lost what is happening.
I got hassio installed in docker and it was working, then I stopped ha inside of the UI, copied in my backups, then rebooted the PC, and then it boots back to nothing working. I'm so lost and confused.
Anyone able to help?
clever mortar
Try #449717345808547842 in the first instance
Looks like a simple permissions problem though
vague ginkgo
Okay, jumping there then.
buoyant anvil
not worth a damn for most of them...
especially those that must make outbound connections to cloud services and thus have a flow of info from outside my network
a plain sniffer sure... but you want something like bro if you want to operationalize it and setup alerts and such
rare condor
I really don't trust my Xiaomi gear, I hate the idea it needs to connect to a Chinese server, I really want it isolated
buoyant anvil
this is why ssl or no, you want such things isolated as much as possible from systems you care about like your phone and your laptop
setup the network so you can talk to them, but they cant talk to you
clever mortar
PiHole is a great, and very simple, way of spotting what your devices are talking to (assuming they use DNS)
rare condor
sPin, I can't buy managed switches currently (Uni Student and switches are fixed) would an alternative subnet and per device firewall suffice?
buoyant anvil
yea as long as you have that firewall between the networks
you can probably get one for next to free if you look around a bit
rare condor
wood_daver, I do but I have like 12 unmanaged switches scatted through the house, I would centralize this but it would require a massive overhaul
buoyant anvil
find someone that bought one of the 8 port netgears and is out growing it
yea thats for sure.. its major effort to redo your entire network layout..
rare condor
TL-SG2008 is current managed switch
buoyant anvil
my network consists of a 4 port netgate device running pfsense, has a 24 port hp switch hanging off it along with a trunked port for my ubiquiti wifi... but ill need to add a POE switch to this for the IP cameras i want to setup
rare condor
tis alright but read some security blog that showed is was vun to many attacks also no firmware since 2015
buoyant anvil
the pfsense device does all my firewalling and l3 routing
but yea not stuff i could have afforded when i was in college... back in those days i just had my one PC, a laptop and linksys switch or something
rare condor
@buoyant anvil Yeah that would be my ideal setup: NUC running pfsense hooked into 48 port switch with connections accross house and unifi wifi
buoyant anvil
you kids today dont know how good you have it... VMs were JUUUUST becoming a thing towards then end of my college days
i had to do everything on a physical machine and it was pita
clever mortar
And some of us didn't have home Internet connections at that time ๐
All my work was handed in on floppy disks ๐ฑ
buoyant anvil
back in 1995 when i was first learning linux there were 35+ floppies involvedin a slackware install and if one of those were bad you were reinstalling windows again on your only computer so you could then rewrite that one bad disk
rare condor
lol
buoyant anvil
if you wanted to learn linux back in those days, had only one computer and your only way to the internet involved dial up, you really had to want it
rare condor
Physical media really wasn't much of a thing in my childhood, since primary school we all had multi gigabyte usbs
buoyant anvil
you manage to actually get 35 working floppies to install linux and then you hit your next hurdle, configuring PPP and having basically no available docs to do it with until you get it to work and managed to connect to what passed for the internet in 1995
ahaha @midnight adder
clever mortar
@midnight adder I know that fun - loading the Basic interpreter from tape so you could write things
And re-aligning tape heads with screwdrivers
buoyant anvil
you ever blow on them like a nintendo game ๐
rose comet
Sounds like dark dark times
clever mortar
I dunno. You learned a lot about how things worked that way
rose comet
Who needs to learn when youtube tells you how to do everything :P
clever mortar
There are advantages all ways
I find though that the knowledge really helps troubleshooting - and too many folks want to do just the "pretty" bits
buoyant anvil
well people like us are rarely satisfied with a black box.. we need to know how stuff works
clever mortar
I'm weird though, I want to have at least a passing understanding of everything ๐คท
Yeah. I've got a great team I work with, but out of 50 or so, there's maybe one other person who can really troubleshoot
buoyant anvil
@midnight adder im a systems engineer and when i interview people my make or break questions are about their home lab
buoyant anvil
if they have nothing resembling a lab, if they arent playing with stuff like HA or have something electronic or software they are playing with in their free time, the interview is over
clever mortar
I've bounced more than a few candidates who clearly want a quite job they can sleep/turn handles through
buoyant anvil
hahah yep!
rare condor
I am entering the industry soon, I made this to hand over in Job interviews: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sif3b0vYfdAA4OfBYCbzdRGMKM2YbYKh/view?usp=sharing
Yes
clever mortar
No way I'm plugging that into any system I care about ๐
Now, the malware analysis platform...
rare condor
@clever mortar My true intent is to steal company secrets and blackmail my way into a job ๐
clever mortar
You'd be surprised...
rare condor
The way it works, is it acts as a USB keyboard and runs scripts on your selected OS, it works in a similar way to those USB ducky malicious USBs , USB HID devices are almost universally trusted regardless of OS
clever mortar
And this is why I love what you can do with Linux ๐
rare condor
but yeah that's how my code works click windows -> CV: and it does WIN+R, powershell, launch browser and displays my CV - pretty gimmicky but meh
rose comet
Make it display on every PC on their Network
rare condor
lol
rose comet
Maybe politely ask for some btc lol
rare condor
yes and if they politely refuse I delete 'System32' files at random?
rare condor
I have sent an inquiry for the source code for the new, HA Client Android app " HA Client' but it seems dev intends to monetize app and doesn't want to open source app, so at this stage I feel inclined to make my own app with different goals primarily tracking and intergration with REST API, I would ideally like to wait for HA cloud release to intergrate into that to avoid requesting local information of ip etc. from user
clever mortar
That could be 6+ months off
Also, not everybody will use cloud:
If you can support both cloud: and direct, that's a bigger audience by far
rare condor
fair point
clever mortar
Still, being able to do actionable notifications, and location tracking with the same control that GPS Logger gives, would be awesome
GPS Logger allows you to have multiple profiles, and use intents to switch between them, which means I can stop it trying to get a GPS signal when I'm in the depths of the office
rare condor
Tinkerer yeah, it should be pretty straight forward with the limited goals I have in mind, as I intend on presenting a demo for a University unit, I have a hard deadline of semi-functioning app by November 20th, I will start dev next week
clever mortar
I think it's safe to say that the remote access through cloud is unlikely to be here by then
Good luck with it all ๐
rare condor
thanks
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vale shale
@clever mortar I just switched to lovelace. I am starting to use the custom cards. I am liking it a lot more. I didn't realize how quickly the reload button makes things!
heavy lava
gloomy canyon
@hollow rover @shy notch no post in #announcements about the new release?
hollow rover
@gloomy canyon sorry, I forgot it
pure vine
hey, could someone ping google.com for me, Ping seems to have stopped working on it on my end, trying to work out if they changed something or it is my network
light trout
PING google.com (172.217.21.142) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from fra07s63-in-f142.1e100.net (172.217.21.142): icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=15.1 ms
vast dove
PING google.com (172.217.20.78) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from ams15s33-in-f14.1e100.net (172.217.20.78): icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=37.4 ms
64 bytes from ams15s33-in-f14.1e100.net (172.217.20.78): icmp_seq=2 ttl=54 time=37.5 ms
64 bytes from ams15s33-in-f14.1e100.net (172.217.20.78): icmp_seq=3 ttl=54 time=37.4 ms
To slow ๐คฃ
vast dove
too slow* ๐
light trout
touchรฉ ^^
dry cairn
Pinging google.com [172.217.8.110] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 172.217.8.110: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=54
Reply from 172.217.8.110: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=54
Reply from 172.217.8.110: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=54
you all too slow
vast dove
So how are we doing this beautiful Sunday @light trout ?
light trout
@vast dove I need to clean the appartment, but trying to find some plausable reason to put it off ๐
clever mortar
I'm quite tempted, we've a dog and within hours of doing the cleaning there's dog fur everywhere again
light trout
Yeah, I really need one of those, but I want one that also clean, and not just vaccume
clever mortar
The ones that can mop do sound handy - again, having a dog means muddy paw prints
light trout
There are shoes/socks for dogs ๐
clever mortar
Then those get muddy, and we get muddy sock prints ๐
light trout
use them outside, and take them off when going inn ๐
clever mortar
Says the person without a dog clearly ๐
Leave the door open, dog wanders in and out as it feels like it
pure vine
did the issue of not randomising the idenity get fixed for ikea?
clever mortar
Not randomising the what?
light trout
@clever mortar Im all alone ๐ just me myself and I ๐
clever mortar
@pure vine Sounds like a Home Assistant related question, so off to #330944238910963714 with you ๐
I'd not be without a dog, but I have the advantage that one of us is always able to be home, so it doesn't get left alone all day long
dry cairn
turn the tv on
clever mortar
If the TV could let it out when it needs the toilet, I'd be fine with that
And dog flaps are "a bit" insecure ๐
dry cairn
sounds like a new project
vale shale
dry cairn
no way .....amazing they now make shirts that say that
clever mortar
Think Geek had ones like that at least 10 years ago
dry cairn
๐
rancid lance
weak tshirts
dry cairn
yeah they rather worn out
rancid lance
dry cairn
thats right
vale shale
dry cairn
did you know that 5 out of 4 ppl are bad at math?
hidden finch
The worst ever....building a package overnight in /tmp only to get an error that you ran out of space
๐ฆ
dry cairn
well i'd brush that off as operator error
pure vine
I had that happen when building stuff from the AUR
hidden finch
yep same ๐
dry cairn
and yet here we are again with the same happening again.....
pure vine
Its annoying that ram is so expensive at the moment as well
Building on a HDD is to slow and building on a SSD might distory it
dry cairn
what makes you think that
pure vine
Compiling does a lot of writing to the disk
clever mortar
Modern SSDs have the kind of write cycles that normal users will never reach
dry cairn
ever
pure vine
true
clever mortar
https://techreport.com/review/24841/introducing-the-ssd-endurance-experiment go read that and the follow on articles
dry cairn
i've killed a couple ssd's with sql within 2-3 days before though
dry cairn
well i was running an indexer
clever mortar
Really good ones can reach 2,000 TB written
dry cairn
yup
pure vine
that reminds me i need to get a bigger ssd for my laptop
clever mortar
And that's generic SSDs, not even ones designed for high write, which I'm sure will do more
pure vine
what about acting as a ZFS cache pool
dry cairn
no problem
pure vine
and then doing the thing that killed zombu's
clever mortar
~lmgtfy zfs ssd cache
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
You'll find a good few posts on it
dry cairn
you gotta do more then using it as a cache to kill one
clever mortar
For what it's worth, I've been running with (Intel) SSDs as cache and ZIL for about 2 or 3 years now on my home server
Zero issues
clever mortar
If I can get 18 months out of an SD card (not even a high endurance one) on a high write Pi media server, and 2+ years (so far) without issue writing all logs to a USB thumb drive, you can reasonably assume that an SSD will last longer than the computer you installed it in
modest smelt
Hello, which channel do I go to to ask what types of devices people are using?
clever mortar
Here's as good a choice as any if you're just after what are you using
modest smelt
Sort of, I've got a setup I'd like to hook up to HA but I'm at a loss how to.
clever mortar
If you've got questions about specific devices then the relevant channel (#zwave-archived, #diy-archived or #330944238910963714 )
modest smelt
More of a #diy-archived thing then?
clever mortar
Well, depends on what your setup refers to
If it's Z-Wave then #zwave-archived if there's a component for it then #330944238910963714, but if it's a thing you've built then most likely #diy-archived
modest smelt
Ah it doesn't have any wireless or wired remote control yet
I'll just try my luck at DIY :p
pure vine
anyone here run their own email server, i was planning to use mail in a box to quickly setup a mail server
clever mortar
A long time ago, it's not worth it these days given that you can point your DNS at free webmail services and be up and running faster
modest smelt
Not to mention the snakes pit that is email servers
pure vine
@clever mortar its just that i dont trust free webmail services
clever mortar
If you really think you can avoid spam, get your IP whitelisted, etc etc etc - go for it
But, if you're going to use it long term, Google Apps, Outlook, etc etc, all offer paid services for it
pure vine
I mean, im planning to set it up on a DO droplet using mail in a box that seem to have preconfigured filters anyway
dry cairn
nope
midnight adder
how to format code block
clever mortar
~format
velvet horizonBOT
rain swift
Does anyone run part of their HA in ram? I read something about it, then I thought I read the pi OS's already do something like that.
clever mortar
Anything "running" is in RAM, clearly. What do you mean?
rancid lance
lol
sacred hornet
@rancid lance i did that in venv
@light trout thanks for the help mate ๐
still trying to get the custom_components to show in the tracker though
rain swift
clever mortar
Just move the logs and database to a USB drive
rain swift
anyone use USPS informed delivery? is it useful.
clever mortar
RAM drive is fine, if you have RAM to spare
rain swift
I might do the USB drive thing, I have plenty laying around
dull chasm
@rain swift yes sir it is a good componet if you set it correctly with @last plaza custom componet
clever mortar
rain swift
very true
32 gig flash drive aquired.
it gives me
(parted) mkpart primary 2048s 50%
parted: invalid token: primary
File system type? [ext2]?
Yup, hit enter there
rain swift
then it says start?
nevermind
haha
it had a partition directly on it from something else I did with it before, used gparted on my laptop to fix it uo
rain swift
so how does this jive with a docker container
rain swift
yeah that's what I figured haha
if I wasn't running on a pi I wouldn't need the usb, yada yada, eh, not gonna worry about it right now
might just buy something else to run it on and migrate sometime
maybe an odroid, or something a little bigger
rose comet
I need some inspiration, anyone got any fun useful ideas that arent a big cost?
dry cairn
mastrubation
rose comet
brb
rain swift
?
white fog
Masturbation is that thing that makes you go blind when you touch your no no place. @rain swift
Unless you meant @midnight adder comment, but that is also fairly self explanatory. ๐๐
rain swift
I was refering to weight based presence detection...
white fog
Ok then. If you have other questions I have some great reference material.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.amazon.com/Everyone-Turtleback-School-Library-Binding/dp/0613685725&ved=2ahUKEwiRjZjd8uPdAhUI2lMKHdLjDjkQ5OUBMAp6BAgAEAE&usg=AOvVaw165VNT3iYZoLBo95JTLXO-
๐คฃ
Just messing man, hope to at least cracked a smile.
pure vine
is hacktoberfest based on when you submit it or US time
amber bramble
I think it's based on when the PR is merged, probably US time
midnight adder
@rain swift Why not use rpi-clone and use an SSD to make HA faster and not prone to corruption??
rain swift
don't even need that you can easily set it up on ubuntu server and import the snapshot
rain swift
Love it
dry cairn
thats a shitty idea
rose comet
@midnight adder I can do that pretty easy without hardware
Is after work, is before bedtime... Couch
Is before work, after bedtime... Bed
:P
Was just a joke about me being a lazyass
XD
Good pun
I imagine if I binge the podcast on my commute I'll get some ideas too?
Excited there's still a good lil YouTube community too. The hookups videos are interesting
Miss ben
Seems like hass woildnt too easy to deploy and maintain for a customer base considering it as a service
Look forward to seeing where it goes
I joined around version .2 and been building on it alot. Was working in marketing and got a rpi for secret santa. That Santa is what sparked my interest in IT and why I work in tech now :D
rose comet
Very
clever mortar
@proven bobcat ๐
Let's take the away logic:
trigger:
- platform: state
entity_id:
- device_tracker.404e36245315
- device_tracker.serenity
- device_tracker.person2_mobile_gps
to: 'not_home'
proven bobcat
๐
clever mortar
This automation triggers when I leave, and: ```yaml
- platform: state
entity_id:- device_tracker.404e36245315
- device_tracker.serenity
- device_tracker.person2_mobile_gps
to: 'not_home'
for:
minutes: 5```
Give minutes later too
I group all those trackers in a group called group.person_2, and use that in the condition check:
- condition: numeric_state
entity_id: group.person_person2
below: 2
value_template: "{{ dict((states|selectattr('entity_id', 'in', state_attr('group.person_person2', 'entity_id'))|list)|groupby('state'))['home']|count }}"
Basically, are less than 2 of my device trackers showing me at home
Then I check for one of three things being true:
# A door was opened in the last 10 minutes
- condition: template
value_template: "{{ (as_timestamp(now()) - as_timestamp(states.sensor.last_opened.last_updated)) | int < 600 }}"
A door was recently open
# A door is currently open
- condition: state
entity_id: binary_sensor.front_door_sensor
state: 'on'
``` a door is currently open (there's two more of these, but I really should use the group of outside doors)Or all my sensors have shown me away for at least 4 minutes:
# All away for at least 4 minutes
- condition: state
entity_id: group.person_person2
state: 'not_home'
for:
minutes: 4```So, if my device trackers "glitch" for some reason, that probably won't be at the same time a door opens (for example, while I'm sleeping), and so simply going away won't immediately cause me to be shown as not home
proven bobcat
@clever mortar - is there a way of saving this info? Not used to this app and I donโt want to lose it in the noise of everything else.
clever mortar
~tinkerer
velvet horizonBOT
You can find his GitHub at https://github.com/DubhAd/Home-AssistantConfig/ and his blog at https://ceard.tech/
clever mortar
It's all there
That one is from https://github.com/DubhAd/Home-AssistantConfig/blob/master/automation/person2_away.yaml, and https://github.com/DubhAd/Home-AssistantConfig/blob/master/automation/person2_home.yaml matches it for coming home
proven bobcat
Thank you. Iโll take a look and see if I can get my head around it all.
clever mortar
If you've got questions, and I'm around, just ping me
proven bobcat
Very kind, I will. Appreciate your assistance on this!
clever mortar
Not a problem at all
soft zephyr
did someone try NanoPi M4 for running HA? 6 cores, 2 or 4 Gb RAM and usb 3.0 seems very nice but maybe some rocks under water? https://www.friendlyarm.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=234
clever mortar
Looks like a nice upgrade
proven bobcat
@clever mortar - As I thought, Iโm confusing myself totally with all of this. Do all of these snippets youโve stated previously above all go in to automations.yaml (obviously using my device tracker info)?
proven bobcat
And Iโd have to duplicate that (swapping out the device tracker info) for each person Iโm tracking?
clever mortar
Yes, I have three of those currently
Each person has a matching group.person_X and input_boolean.X_home to go with the home and away automations
(there's other stuff around the edges too, but those are the key things)
proven bobcat
Crikey! Right. To me (at least) this is a lot to get my head around. No idea what input Booleans are tbh. Iโll copy and paste filling in my info and see what happens. I take it that all of this is instead of the Bayesian sensor stuff?
clever mortar
~input_boolean
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
The boolean is a toggle - on/off
When it's on, the person is home, when it's off, they're away
I prefer this to the bayesian sensor since I have more control this way, and can cater for the things that normally glitch
proven bobcat
Iโve read the blurb on the HA website but, once again, itโs fairly meaningless to me. Too technical. Iโll copy and paste and report back. Thanks again.
clever mortar
The bayesian sensor is funky maths logic - but once you wrap your head around it quite powerful
proven bobcat
So do I still need the Bayesian sensor in place to use this automation. Iโm confused. I have added the automation and it is appearing in the frontend of my original HA instance. What do I need to configure now?
clever mortar
You don't
You'll need:
- A group for each person's device trackers
- An input boolean for each person
- A home and away automation for each person
proven bobcat
Ok. So Iโve just added my โawayโ automation for me. How do I configure the โhomeโ? Same but with minor alterations? How do I create an input Boolean and where do I put it?
Apologies for all of the questions!
clever mortar
pure vine
anyone know a good ssd reveiw site, looking for a m.2 sata ssd for my laptop and have landed on this one for the mo https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B078WQVX9B/ , but was wondering if there was a better one
also is it worth the risk and price for the TB one
clever mortar
pure vine
So basicly i need to quit worrying about the life span as ill probably change laptop before it happens
also, i wonder, with normal useage, would the life be longer as you lose the heat based damage that may occoar
dry cairn
heat based damage?
slim rampartBOT
@calm pagoda, you joined Other.
pure vine
@dry cairn heat doing werid physics things to electrons and materials
dull chasm
I think newton pretty well defined the laws of physics ๐คฃ
dry cairn
i think heat got to you you will never hit the heat ceilings on those components unless you run em in your bbq
hdd's don't die of heat nor do ssd's
dull chasm
refresh and clear your cache
viscid oxide
already did in my cellphones, same result, will do in the laptop...
dull chasm
control and f5 on windows
dull chasm
umm ... something is odd ... i noticed i didnt have icons but numbers ....refreshed and got icons ...but no number
viscid oxide
ok, so is not only me...
dull chasm
yea i will ask about tomm if i get a chance
viscid oxide
thanks!
dull chasm
np
sacred hornet
Morning guys
manic galleon
It is night time here haha ๐ค
sacred hornet
well, life is tough i guess ๐
quartz ether
Anyone know of a quick simple ip camera rstp stream recorder that works on windows? no Zoneminder ๐ฆ
lone gust
Could you use VLC to record the rtsp stream?
or are you looking for something more sophisticated @quartz ether ?
quartz ether
Na, Need something to setup as a proper dvr type system. Motion and what not. I have found iSpy
rain oxide
Has anyone here worked with snips?
pure vine
anyone have a huawei lte router
rancid lance
no your the only one
pure vine
I dont, i just need someone to test something
frail hemlock
@pure vine I have a huawei B618
pure vine
@frail hemlock could you point you browser at http://<router ip>/device/signal
and just tell me if it returns something that looks like infomation about signal strength
frail hemlock
@pure vine Currently at work, will have to test it once I get home.
pure vine
๐
frail hemlock
@pure vine you helped with the hassio component for the Huawei LTE routers?
pure vine
@frail hemlock just editing the docs
frail hemlock
@pure vine I need to say thank you to whoever did the integration, presence detection works very well.
pure vine
is the B618 the one you have connected?
frail hemlock
yes
vague ginkgo
Okay, I have just started fresh with new ubuntu server install, what is the recommended way to get hassio installed? Docker?
light trout
The generic hassio installer is the only way
low harness
Because lots of people thing hassio <==> home assistant
light trout
light trout
For the opertunity to give the user the best possible experience that fits his/her needs ๐
rancid lance
its kinda like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAEqkytKgZ8
low harness
On a fresh ubuntu server install?
Sorry. I've had a tough day and I'm hungry.
@vague ginkgo Check out the links Ludeeus posted. Good luck, and have fun!
Personally, I'd go with this instead, but that's just what I'm comfortable with: https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/installation/virtualenv/
vague ginkgo
@low harness it's cool :P I use hassio specifically because I am not the most Linux Savvy and most of the tutorials that I follow to learn what I'm doing use hassio, plus I like the app store setup.
rain swift
Frenck has the best install on his github
light trout
gist*
light trout
gloomy canyon
Yeah I should delete the post ;)
light trout
You can simplify that alot bu using this https://gitlab.com/ludeeus/HA-AIO-Installer ๐
gloomy canyon
Never ever ๐
rapid kiln
hello
rain swift
hello
wintry crow
Anyone got unflashed Sonoffs? Mine are all unavailable. Guessing their AWS server is offline
rain swift
nope..
manic galleon
Can I petition to add a Emoji to the server? https://emojis.slackmojis.com/emojis/images/1453182793/263/plusone.png?1453182793
I have been using the 
emoji in replace of this one. but I use the +1 in slack and its a very useful clean emoji
light trout
What's wrong with ๐ ? :+1:
manic galleon
It has basically the same connotation as It works but I use the plus one (+1 actually the plus and number) when in a support conversation and someone says something I agree with or if I was typing the same. Just to note that I agree and what I was going to say that as well. The thumbs up I use for recognizing the end of a conversation usually. Ex. Thanks for the help. I would react with ๐ (thumbsup) so another message is not needed. Confirming I saw the message
light trout
aha, I use ๐ for the same thing you use +1 for.
But for ending a conversation I find that ๐ are more effective
๐คฃ
clever mortar
manic galleon
Haha Interesting. I can definitely make the work for my case but I figured I would ask
clever mortar
Done ๐
light trout
clever mortar
Easily done, now I know how
light trout
How?
light trout
๐คฆ that was too easy...
rain swift
hahahahaha
manic galleon
IF you want to add more good ones -> https://slackmojis.com/ search Parrot.
Good Animated Emojis haha
light trout
no parrots
clever mortar
Some of those are disturbing
manic galleon
๐ข
wintry crow
Bah was my router. 5GHz was working fine, but 2.4GHz was locked up
vague ginkgo
Okay, so I'm having trouble with the generic hassio installer that @light trout recommended me. I got it all set up, I told the host to reboot, now home assistant isn't coming back after the reboot. I'm assuming through my troubleshooting I've already buggered it up to a point of it being easier to just re-install the host OS, What am I doing wrong? I also asked in #449717345808547842 but I'm looking for any direction I can atm =/ starting to get frustrated after setting everything up, and losing it all on reboot.
vague ginkgo
the generic OS installer you linked me to above https://www.home-assistant.io/hassio/installation/#alternative-install-on-generic-linux-server the curl command at the bottom.
ubuntu server 18.04
light trout
oh cool
vague ginkgo
no, it's not friday
light trout
on 18.04 do this https://gist.github.com/frenck/32b4f74919ca6b95b30c66f85976ec58
vague ginkgo
doing so now! thanks
manic galleon
Haha No wrong way. Just better and worse way ๐
hidden finch
Well I got frustrated with my nest problem not working so much that I decided to go buy a RPi 3 B+
I'm pretending the issue was my RPi 1 just couldn't handle doing the things it needed to do
Altho I have been running HA on my RPi1 for about 2.5 years
rose comet
nice avatar @hidden finch
amber bramble
We should add an emoji for the more-info icon on dev-states
hidden finch
thanks ๐
hidden finch
hah well got everything up and running on the new pi3
it works fine
it totally was my old rpi1 just couldnt do it anymore
hidden finch
I don't know why I tortured myself.... This rpi3 is so much faster :)
light trout
@amber bramble thise has been there from the start ;)
light trout
Oh ๐
light trout
Only 10$ ๐
orchid rose
well you'll need the gateway as well ofc
light trout
Ofc, lucky for me that I already have it ๐
low harness
It's not supported by homeassistant yet, though. But it should be in the next release, I heard.
quasi oar
low harness
Yes. TRร DFRI gateway and light bulbs are, but the wireless outlet is not.
rain swift
wonder if you'll be able to connect the outlets to a hue bridge like you can with the bulbs
rose comet
Those tadfris need a separate gateway and can only fit one per wall cover without energy monitoring. With sonoff s31s you get all of those things without needing a gateway :p
18 a piece tho
@fair monolith
rain swift
and you have to do some soldering
rose comet
You do need the serial adapter to flash it and soldering gear so it's not without effort
Yea
rain swift
which I still need to get an iron and learn to do lol
rose comet
I'd be willing to flash any plugs you guys need just pay shipping :)
fair monolith
sends 100
rose comet
And you can control config since you don't need to hardcode mqtt or wifi auth
orchid rose
yeah I'd still rather not do any soldering for stuff like this. Just feels like too much effort for a thing that should be very simple
rose comet
Ideally you would wanna diy since I think ota upgrades don't work? IDK never worked for me
orchid rose
the ota upgrade don't work on sonoffs anymore
which is why the only sonoff I have is not integrated in hass.. Just can't be bothered to open it up
rain swift
it would be easy if companies would make their stuff ready to be flashed, but why would they do that, you're hijacking their stuff lol.
orchid rose
depends on their business model. As long as they make their money from sales and not gathering information on their users, it doesn't matter what the customer does after they get the product
rain swift
too bad some company doesn't take on the raspberry pi business model and sell stuff that is easy to hijack on purpose
yeah I can't imagine companies that make their stuff connect to chinese servers are only making money off of the product.
orchid rose
actually it would be better for a purely hardware company if you flash it with your own firmware as it would take away the guarantee and save them some money in a long run
rain swift
there might be more money in big data than selling the plugs lol
rose comet
There is. That's why xiaomi is the cheapest stuff around lol
@rain swift you should learn to solder. It's super easy and useful
Make the thing hot, stick the other thing to the first thing, done
rain swift
yeah I've watched videos, I dunno what my problem is, I need to buy a damn iron and just do it lol
rose comet
It's been useful for me in a ton of different uses, and saved me some money
rain swift
it would save me money because I could make my own cheap Chinese sensors and stuff.
rose comet
For esp based multi sensors you wouldn't need to solder anything, but you could
rain swift
where do you get those from
orchid rose
you need an esp board, some wires and the sensors and usb to power the thing. Aliexpress is a good place to source the stuff. Check #diy-archived for some help
buoyant anvil
anyone have strong opinions on the best/most reliable method for fan control?
light trout
Physical button control
buoyant anvil
going to replace 2 ceiling fans soon and im not sure which direction i should go.. seems getting a dumb fan and making it 'smart' is the way to go.. and seems i want AC as the DC stuff is almost uncontrollable...
speed control is a must have
i plan to setup a number of HA automations to adjust fan speed based on presense, temp and time
rain swift
my fan is so loud on low, I never change the speed lol
buoyant anvil
the current fan on low is so slow it disturbs the air about as much as a nat flapping its wings
so what do you guys like? should i be looking at insteon?
warped moss
Do people get into the topic of zigpy/bellows on this discord? I see a channel for zwave but not zigbee?
manic galleon
I have seen it talked about in #330944238910963714
As well as in #zwave-archived
So it may depend on the Topic
warped moss
I'll check those. Thanks!
light trout
Sounds about rigth, they sendt out emails about it sometime before he summer
hidden finch
Guess Ill be switching the service I use for static maps
hidden finch
MapQuest offers 15,000 queries a month
pure vine
Leaflet and openstreetmap is good for dynamic maps
pure vine
ahh, open streetmap has a api for doing stuff like that to
pure vine
yeah mapbox sounds good
pure vine
yeah, what would kind of be cool is a hass.io addon for this https://switch2osm.org/serving-tiles although it would kill a pi quickly, and itll probably use up all the ram(its more of a x86 dedicated hardware thing)
light trout
"requirements will range from 10-20GB of storage, 4GB of memory and a modern dual-core processor" a pi would be killed instantly ๐
hidden finch
Yeah I'll stick with queries to some API :)
I'll give mapbox a go and if that doesn't work out, fall back to MapQuest
If Google wants to be lame about it, I'll pass. They should have a free tier that lets you query more than 1 a day
I'm tempted to drop html5 notifications too and go for SMS messages with HA
Then I can do all types of fun stuff
rain swift
what nuc's are people running? can I get away with a $200 job
hidden finch
MapQuest appears to be the way to go.
rain swift
does anyone have any kind of cell backup for their internet at home so they can get into their HA system and what not?
hidden finch
No cell backup yet but I'm planning to go with FreedomPop
You just buy the hardware
No cost for service
It's very limited though but should be fine for HA assuming your internet doesn't suck
I'm just not 100% sure the IP is routeable
amber bramble
we need a :rip: emoji too
rain swift
comcrap is having issues right now, went down twice, freaks me out, don't know whats going on at home. I think I can set up openBSD to kick over to a backup interface and if I can get a modem from ting.com I could either pay $6 a month to have it always on, or go in and activate the service for a month when the internet goes down.
lethal dust
If you've already seen this kind of notification "Watch on TV", I need your help in PM ๐
dry cairn
its too brutal for the local snowflakes they will complain and whine
hidden finch
Totally misread Google's API for static maps. It's still free if you're under a certain amount. You just gave to give them billing information so they can auto bill you. :)
Which is good because the other alternatives are lacking
@clever mortar since you witnessed my problems with nest the past few days...I thought you should know that the problem was the rpi (original) HW. It couldn't do things fast enough to make them work.
I'm tempted to say that the original rpi can't really run HA anymore.
Which honestly people should avoid... It's just too slow :)
amber bramble
@clever mortar it's not a tombstone that says RIP ๐
dry cairn
you can t do that someone will complain about sexual herassment
slim rampartBOT
@midnight adder, you joined Other.
pure vine
Just ugraded my laptops storage from a sandisk 125gb to a 512gb samsung 970 pro NVMe M.2 sdd, 1 its way faster booting after i moved fedora from the HDD to the new ssd(i was expecting that) and i think the ssd is faster too
amber bramble
it's happening...
pure vine
looks nice
amber bramble
imports existing config from configuration.yaml if it's specified there
vale shale
Ugh while on vacation my ups died due to โinternal clamp shortage.โ Bye bye Blue Iris, plex, firewall, and switches.
rain swift
daaaaaaaayum
amber bramble
what in the world is internal clamp shortage
dry cairn
thats code for crabs
pure vine
Voice-recognition gadgets such as Apple's Siri and Amazon's Alexa were also said to be increasingly popular with the age group, with nursery rhymes and asking questions - such as: "How big is the moon?" - among common activities. this is intresting, realistic, and a releif for pairents from constant question asking
rain swift
keep your kids away from technology for god sakes
especially the stuff the creators have admitted is brainwashing people like facebook
they don't even let their own kids use it or use it themselves and feel bad they ever created it
vale shale
@amber bramble I think itโs where the battery terminal shorted.
amber bramble
thats what i figured
hopefully it shut itself down as opposed to bursting into flames.
vale shale
It did
pure vine
@rain swift i see nothing wrong with letting a kid use a tablet to watch cbbeies and to use the alexa to ask questions, but year keep them off social networks untill they are less malable brain wise
amber bramble
my 2 year old has a facebook account and regularly likes fake news and loves posting selfies and writing elaborate gibberish posts
(not really, that would be absolutely terrifying)
rain swift
lmao
this is the lounge, but I don't know how far off into the weeds we are allowed to go, so, lol.
pure vine
keep it off of polising politics is the line i use
rain swift
oh no none of that lol
but like.... https://youtu.be/-J2jgLX6XKc
go listen to what the guys who create this stuff say, from their own mouths.
trail crag
Eesh.
white fog
Videodrome. Carry on.
buoyant anvil
anyone have denon heos setup? i see some people have worked out some code for it.. curious if anyone is using it
vale shale
My 14 year old son doesnโt even like social media. He says it is a waste of time looking at other peopleโs โawesomeโ lives. I agree
rain swift
the little fake windows of their life. ๐
vale shale
Ik they just โlive an awesome always exciting lifeโ. So many articles are about suicide rates going up. I have seen a little of what kids are doing and I can believe it. There was one case where a girl wouldnโt give her mom her phone and got super aggressive.
rain swift
yep, "likes" give dopamine hits, it's addictive.
and then it causes depression when they don't get it
it's pavlovs dog
vale shale
Girls are more vulnerable to it.
I am sure that every post is NEVER going to actually be deleted. In 20 years when they are a politician then it will ALL come back and destroy them.
amber bramble
basically as soon as its posted to the internet it's there forever
vale shale
I am going out of cell coverage โ
arctic ginkgo
anyone want to help a python noob out with a quick question on miltiprocessing?
dry cairn
aww man i wish you would have wanted to know something about multiprocessing
arctic ginkgo
I figured it out an hour or so later, multiprocessing functions need to have IO devices opened inside the function
something something pickling cpointers
celest pulsar
@amber bramble I like the transition to more GUI stuff for the common items. I know I hated yaml starting out.
graceful olive
any advice for a security system - what cams etc
orchid wolf
hi! want to ask if it is possible to create an html webpage for anyone who comes to my house and connects to my wifi?
like a welcome page ๐
pure vine
Elon Musk: Tesla boss mocks US regulator days after settlement - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45754299
Hes slowly losing all respect he ever had from me. From calling one of the divers a pedo because the diver said his sub wont work and behaving like a kid when he was told to stop, to basically controlling the stock market with his tweets and kicking a tantrum when he gets in trouble
vale shale
y@graceful olive I would highly recommend Blue Iris as an nvr. You however do need a pretty good pc in order to run it though. For cameras I use two of these https://www.amazon.com/Security-Ethernet-Surveillance-Waterproof-Connection/dp/B01G1U4MVA and two of these https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0777PNBY4/ref=sspa_dk_detail_2?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B0777PNBY4&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=f52e26da-1287-4616-824b-efc564ff75a4&pf_rd_r=82W8824G98S46TPF4ER0&pd_rd_wg=sNKrI&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&pd_rd_w=rWUN9&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pd_rd_r=72e1ce8f-c89a-11e8-9abb-7d2cd28fbd32 (make sure to set up a firewall rule to block them from the internet.) I have my eye on this one too that was mentioned by @amber bramble https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01B4BKJOK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A15NUCR7ITLOD6&psc=1
graceful olive
thanks will have a look
vale shale
Blue Iris also can be integrated into Home Assistant too. You can turn cameras off and on and get feeds, motion etc.
rain swift
the best bang for your buck camera is the dahua starlight turret
and +1 for blue iris, been running it for years.
only integration I have with HA is changing profiles when I change the HA alarm panel state
oh and triggering cameras
amber bramble
I need to set up more BlueIris HA integration
I'd love to switch between motion recording and always-on recording from HA
rain swift
I can't think of anything I'd want to do
yeah I just record 24/7
but when cams get triggered it takes a bunch of snapshots and emails them to my gmail
and sends me a push notification
I need to put a NAS in my gun safe and store the 24/7 recording there lol
graceful olive
heh
amber bramble
i need to figure that out too
right now my BlueIris box is sitting in our living room by the TV (we have it hooked up to the TV for streaming things that don't have mobile/chromecastable apps)
so if someone breaks in they just have to steal that to steal all the recordings of themselves...
rain swift
thats why I have the cameras attach snapshots to an email for right now 20 seconds after they are triggered.
I might try to set it up to re-trigger every 30 seconds or something
on the up side, you wouldn't know by looking which computer is running the cameras, its not like someone breaking in will know exactly what your setup is lol
they will probably go for game consoles and TVs and leave a plain lookin desktop
vale shale
@amber bramble let me know if you need any help with the profile integration. I have one away mode and home mode profile that turns off inside cameras but leaves outside ones on when we are home but turns them all on when we are away. I am at some point going to set up an FTP server in amazon to backup photos/videos from BI.
rain swift
that would be cool, I thought about doin that before but never got around to it.
ionic sun
Looking for suggestions for a a cheap, reliable tablet to run as a Home Assistant console - preferably one that can be locked down to only the minimum number of apps (Chrome I guess ๐ )
Thanks in advance ๐
manic galleon
Instead of Chrome I would look into FullyKiosk but that doesn't really answer the question ๐ I have seen that FireTablets are not the best for Lovelace so I would stay away from them. They have an outdated webview. (Unless you don't use Lovelace).
ionic sun
Everybody knows you never go full kiosk (only joking ๐ )
celest pulsar
Iโm using a fire 7 with fully kiosk. Using ha dashboard though. Havenโt dove into Lovelace
Works great plugged into the wall adapter. Has been on 24/7 for over 6 months.
rare condor
are those xiaomi robots vacs any good? I always thought it was a bit gimmicky
amber bramble
I have 3 8" Fire Tablets running Fully Kiosk with TileBoard. Also runs stock HA UI fine, but I haven't taken the dive into Lovelace yet
pure vine
there is wall pannel https://github.com/thanksmister/wallpanel-android
ionic sun
Thanks for the suggestions folks
orchid rose
@rare condor I don't see why they wouldn't be. I have a really cheap (~110โฌ) chinese one myself and it does the job just fine. One of the best parts about my home hass integrations is having it turn on every time I leave the apartment
zinc crater
?rank other
slim rampartBOT
@zinc crater, you joined Other.
vague ginkgo
Okay, question.
If I want to combine all the sensors I have about a paticular person, and make their location the sensor, with their other sensor info like their tautulli now playing sensor, and their steam sensor, and their xbox live sensor as attributes to that sensor, would that be possible? has anyone considered making a people platform for this kind of thing? people.forte could be an entity that combines all the different sensors about me specifically into one entity.
In the meantime since a people platform doesn't exist, could a template sensor do this? I didn't see anything about adding attributes in the documentation for it.
quartz ether
@vague ginkgo You should be able to use the information you want as an attribute for a custom made sensor
clever mortar
Sounds like a sensor.template @vague ginkgo - a bit like https://github.com/DubhAd/Home-AssistantConfig/blob/master/sensors/person_person1.yaml
vague ginkgo
Ohh seeing that example helped! Thanks. @clever mortar I didn't realize you could use value template to set the attributes of the template sensor
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little sail
Ok i see you use double quotes around url
vale shale
Yes
little sail
No way i have the same as yours but no entity found
vale shale
Well are you using the correct entity_id?
In appdaemon
Letโs go back to #general-archived
jagged mantle
is someone using milight lights with an esp8266 as hub?
pure vine
No, but I'm interested in the ESP8266 as a hub
orchid rose
not yet. I'll be setting up a hub when I order my next patch of chinese crap, lol
I'm pretty sure there was someone on #diy-archived that had one. Search function should find it
jagged mantle
i fixed it btw
connected one of the antenna pins to the wrong pin on my esp8266 board
rose comet
nice! are you using the component or mqtt? @jagged mantle
and any recommendations on managing the light groups in the hub itself? they are given those unfriendly names and are hard to keep track of without referencing back the hass config
jagged mantle
component?
leaden adder
Phew, digging SNMP values is terrible
last plaza
@leaden adder I went that route, and gave up quickly
clever mortar
Last time I tried to get HA doing SNMP on a Pi3, it broke the Pi ๐คฃ
last plaza
lol
leaden adder
@last plaza MIB Browser is very helpful!
clever mortar
Doing snmpwalk on the command line was fine, but HA maxed the CPU and then locked up
leaden adder
Woot? Please don't scare me ๐
last plaza
I tried that too... I really wasn't able to follow that either
yup, tried both snmpwalk and mib browser
last plaza
nice! the only other gentleman that I know that did is @dull chasm
clever mortar
I wrote a shell script to snmpwalk my printer to get all those stats out, and dump it to JSON for HA. Then somebody produced a component for it ๐คท
leaden adder
Now I sit here, open and close the cover to change cartridges and enjoy how quickly Home Assistant displays the change.
last plaza
is that real-time?
leaden adder
I would say so
last plaza
@clever mortar I keep seeing this on my HA dashboard... not sure where it is coming from!
clever mortar
Z-Wave?
last plaza
yep
clever mortar
Got node_id: 39 for a zwave entity in ?
clever mortar
Probably a device that was added, then added again
vast dove
@last plaza please post this in #zwave-archived
last plaza
that's all I see.. I am not sure which device that is though
vast dove
๐
clever mortar
I had that for a remote
last plaza
@vast dove I knew when you were typing, you were going to say something ๐
dull chasm
clever mortar
You can force remote entities
last plaza
too much peer pressure!
last plaza
lol
dull chasm
Please read channel topics @last plaza
clever mortar
Somebody discovered that you can lie to the system by setting is_failed: true, and OZW/HA thinks it has failed, so you can force remove it
last plaza
@dull chasm two minutes ago, I called you a "gentleman", and here you are, giving me grief!
lol
clever mortar
He's politely giving you grief ๐
dull chasm
โค luv ya but got to step up ...... @clever mortar is here
last plaza
LOL - I thought anything can be discussed in #the-water-cooler
clever mortar
Anything not HA related - it says so in the channel topic ๐
clever mortar
And neither politics or religion (and that probably includes sports) ๐
leaden adder
last plaza
@leaden adder WOW! that was instant!!! Thanks for sharing!
leaden adder
If my motion detection would be as fast as my printer cover state detection...
last plaza
lol
leaden adder
Does anybody here uses motion sensors? I want a solution for my bathroom. Should be as fast my printer sensor ๐
I'm not that good at soldering, so maybe Xiaomi?
last plaza
I use xiaomi motion sensors, they are pretty good
leaden adder
With the official hub or a general one?
last plaza
they are small, great form factor and works flawlessly
pure vine
@leaden adder what printer is that
last plaza
official hub
leaden adder
@pure vine Was gonny say "It's in the video" ๐ Try the snmp value for uptime, according to most wikis it's widely used
snmpwalk -Os -c public -v1 192.168.178.66 1.3.6.1.2.1.1.3.0
Or download MIB Browser (http://www.ireasoning.com/downloadmibbrowserfree.php), enter your IP and just click "walk". My printer reports 937 values.... no joke
@last plaza Will try that then. I guess you added some other sensors after that too?
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last plaza
@leaden adder you can find my setup and devices โ here
leaden adder
~pattyland
vast dove
~sjabby
leaden adder
Worth a try... Thank for the link, I guess will buy a few sensors more than ๐
~rtfm
velvet horizonBOT
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